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Happiness joy, a win, goals, movement, no sacred horses, swagger, goals, movement. It was a happy bunker (until we get to the new year chat) and we loved not having a moan for a change. Trev, Paul, Moley, Phil and ex pat home for the Christmas Anfield Index Australia man Mick Mahon (best of luck on wedding day 2 mate) wax lyrical about swansea and the upcoming league and cup games.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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30 Dec 2014
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Happiness joy, a win, goals, movement, no sacred horses, swagger, goals, movement. It was a happy bunker (until we get to the new year chat) and we loved not having a moan for a change. Trev, Paul, Moley, Phil and ex pat home for the Christmas Anfield Index Australia man Mick Mahon (best of luck on wedding day 2 mate) wax lyrical about swansea and the upcoming league and cup games. 

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I'm Trev Denney, and joining me to look back at the two recent victories, before glancing forward at the ones to come, I'm Amadou Sako's PA Paul Brennan, Telegaget Maestro Moly, nearly wirelessly excited to fill the case. I'm making a bunker debut, the frontman of AI Australia, Mick Mann. Let's look back at Liverpool 4, Swansea 1. Before we go on to pick the bones out of it in a few minutes, on the back of a narrow win over Burnley, that comprehensive victory and fine performance against Swansea felt like something of a turn to form, I think. Does anyone want to risk talking about turning corners, Moly? One swallow doesn't make a summer in all that push. We have to say that we're playing with this swagger, we're playing again, and we're looking much better in the last couple of weeks. I'm hoping more than anything else that we are finally have turned that corner. Paul, is that fair enough, cautious optimism from Moly there? Would you be inclined to be the same? I think turning a corner is a dangerous show with the season on the fire, but it was really comprehensive performance. There were a couple of patches where we were going to dodge a bullet, and I was delighted with it all around midfield, defence and attack. I wouldn't say we've turned the corner so far, because we have to see when Brendan gets his favourites back in or whatever. I thought it was brilliant. It's that close enough to the team there. Cheers, Paul. Somebody raised me going on here in the bunker. Mick, it's a straight road according to Paul. No corners at all, he doesn't want to talk about acknowledging any twists or turns for the better, necessarily. Would you be inclined to be cautious as well? Yeah, I'd pretty echo Paul's comments. I mean, there's certainly some really good signs there. I mean, they played the structure, the formation. I think depressing was a really good feature. But yeah, I think it's too early to talk about that. One of the goals was quite flooky as well. That really buried the game as well, but there's certainly signs there. And I mean, when we look at what we did last year, I'd say that was pretty much the same system. Obviously, we didn't have the same lethal finishing up front with Sturridge and Suarez. But I would say the structure, the pressing, and a lot of the good features of last year's play were actually in that game yesterday. And Mick, you and I were speaking beforehand about this and basically, you know, there is reasons to be cheerful. It was fun, yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah, for the first time in a long long time. You were just mentioning that, Trevor, it was. I mean, it reminded me at times of a bit of last year, like when we got to that, that two nil. And obviously, we can see the quick goal. You could see signs of it there. I think you could see the people enjoying the football. I think you could see, for the first time in a while, the fans were getting back into the game. So, again, lots and lots of positive signs there. But again, I think we have to be a little bit cautious. It's one game on the last, maybe, 9.10, that we've actually read really, really well. And we can talk like this now, where we can say that, you know, we are cautiously optimistic. Cautiously optimistic. Phil, you always will see this out. You're taking that overall. It's poxy, to be honest with you. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Half of a listening was gone. Yes, that's a bit right. That sounds very Phil. What was great about yesterday was it had something for everyone. So, everyone who thinks Rodgers is a joke is right. Everyone who thinks Rodgers is a James is right. Yes. Everyone who thinks that Sako is the best player in the world is right. Everyone who thinks he's brutal is right. Everyone who thinks that the fallbacks are rubbish are right. And everyone who thinks the fallbacks are brilliant are right. And everyone who thinks that Gerard lads something to the team is right. And everyone who thinks he didn't play well is also right. So, yesterday was actually the most perfect game ever because everyone is right. About everything. Did you have fun as a result? Or were you, was it, was it quietly chewing at you? The people were right that you don't like being right? No, no, because I was right. (LAUGHTER) Yeah. Yeah. January, January. I have to say, look, look, I, you know, when we saw that when the team was leaked to 24 hours before, which is genuine. What's going on with that? I don't know. Hudson must be back and dread some. Yeah. When the team was leaked, I saw it. For the fourth time, I think since the Spores game, I was genuinely excited about seeing the lineup. Just hard to say. Yeah. This is what I've been longing to see all season with storage being only injured. You know what I mean? Mobility in the front men. There's the defenders that you want to see on the pitch, on the pitch. We have Moreno as a wingback. We knew that we're going to have defensive solutions from Mankayo on the right wingback side. You had Henderson in the centre of the park where he's the most effective. And even over the last couple of games, Increditum, Lucas has shown a great deal of, you know, of ability and not necessarily having the mobility to get around the pitch, but he's just tactically aware and is able to fill in spots. Although he was a bit poor for God, but we'll get on to that later on. But, you know, I was looking at saying, of the players that we have fit and available, that's the Illinois want on the pitch. Maybe not in a different formation or something, but they are the 11 that I want on the pitch. So I was really eager to see how that they would do. We were speaking about it before and briefly. And I think I was saying, I think it was Tio saying, "Bard, Danny Sturridge, that's probably the 11 that I want to see playing anyway." Yeah, yeah. You know, in a different shape, perhaps. You can argue about the shapes in the whole lot because, you know, you go on your score, you win 4-1. It's very hard to argue with the formation that you're in at that stage. But to be honest with you, when you see that 11 on the pitch, it's very hard to argue that we have a better 11 with the exception of storage in that side. There's an argument that you might have more of it in front of Atlanta, but Atlanta scores two goals and two crucial goals as well at the times that they scored them. So you can't argue that one. Right. Well, go on. You take us into the next topic, which is the new look defense that we had there with Emre and Mamma, kind of striding and piercing out of defense. That was just, I had so much fun watching that. Well, listen. I won't do the whole defense. What I will do is Emre, because I did wax lyrical about him over the summertime, and I said we were signing somebody special, right? Yeah. And I think what's for straight the hell out of me for the last 15 games is the fact that this lad wasn't getting a decent run on the side. And true, you know, incident as opposed to intention, he's ended up in as the right center back. And you can see the class about him. You can just see the natural class that this fella has. The composer, he never loses his head. And we're talking about, we have mad defenders who tend to lose their head. Even Tory has the head wobble every now and then, right? Times last night. He's just so, he's so in tune with the game. You can see the ball comes from him. He never gets flustered. You know, he can deal with dummy, create half a second of space, and it means that another passing option has opened up for him. He was unfortunate with the goal, but he missed the header. That was poor defending, you know. But again, he's a 20-year-old playing out of position as a right center back. He's played center back as well. This is the versatility that even Rodgers has spoken about. He is an incredibly versatile, modern footballer. And I was heartened to see Rodgers saying that he's going to feature a lot more on the second half of the season, because he's the player. He's one of the players, the young players that we should be building this side around. And, you know, you can see if he was playing the sentiment field with the same level of control and, you know, ability and vision that he has, maybe instead of Lucas alongside Henderson, which I've been crying out for a long time. I want to see the two of them and to hand them. That's Freuden. That to me, I keep going back to it. You've got two lads who will run out of it and have just the vision and the awareness of what's happening around the pitch. And it's great. It was just great to see him. You know, it's hard one, I would say. That's Phil's fanboy corner with Chan. And his hair. Facial hair. Yeah. Can you, can you, Paul, it's your turn now, Mama Sacco. Before we go on, I'm going to ask Molly and Mick about the less positive side about the defence. But can you talk to me about Sacco and his contribution? Again, the one thing that I noticed was like Chan coming out of the fence, it's a dream to watch. He's finding feet. I think, yeah, like Chan, for most of the game, he was apart from the goal. I think a few things were wrong with the goal. I think Sacco was brilliant for most of the game. And then there was, you know, the kind of five minutes of madness after we scored first and they scored straight away. And then when we tipped off, they gave him to say back to Sacco. And I didn't like saying this because, you know, we know a lot of people have made up their mind. That he's, you know, like, he's dodgy on the ball or whatever. And he passes it straight to a ball. And he got a shot and I was like, oh shit, like he's never coming back from this in the commentators. But for the rest of the game, I thought he was brilliant. I mean, it looked for our first goal. It's his pass and that gets us going. You'd say, you know, the Swansea player takes up a kind of decent position to kind of block out, you know, most centre backs were kind of thinking about what we're doing here, whereas Sacco just fired it into Moreno's feet and we were gone. I think the commentator on one side said, oh, here's Sacco. Now he's very nervous on the ball. And Sacco did a kind of drag back and flick around the floor. - It's a loop. - Perfect. I was like, tell you that's your fucking prick. - Snugging my Mamadoo. - Yeah. - You pass it right. - I get it. His name is Paul Dan, my Mamadoo. - Again, I think he was brilliant on the whole. - Yeah, yeah. Moly, I suppose on a slightly more down note. And to look at the defence as a whole, look at those, the tree across the middle as a whole. We can say what we can say about Skirtle. He really looks like a more effective forward than the founder at the moment. But like, get in. Yeah, like, feel the shout. But like, talk to me about crosses and Liverpool. You know, it's a basic thing. We just can't do it on the better. It's horrible, isn't it? - Well, when we were playing there, the songs I see across come into the bus. Literally, my hands are all on my eyes, just waiting for that goal to win. Because we can't see this so many. It's getting ridiculous at this stage. And you look at a guy like Skirtle. You would imagine playing in the centre of that three men defenceful suit his game. Because, you know, he's one of these guys. If he's looking at the bus, he's going to come in. I'm going to clear this. He's never able to be seen. He's never able to be seen when the car comes into the bus. And even I know a lot of people are big fans of Sako. But a kid in that side, that guy worries me. He's a touch. He told us about it. - Yeah. - He really goes, you know, that goal, that we can't see this. I'm not in too sure what he was doing to Borneo there. He just completely talked about it again. How was he looking at it in too sure? He said he was passing the ball to him at one stage. So those two guys worried me. I'd love to see us bring in a composed centre back which Lovren was meant to be in January. Because Sako, Skirtle and Lovren certainly isn't that. - Yeah. That's fair enough. Mick, to continue on that point, what are you making of this three-man rear guard? Do you see us being a thing going forward? And would you like to see Emery and Sako as two members of it? - Yeah. Well, absolutely with Emery. Much of what Phil said, I pretty much check up. But I actually thought he brought a bit of composure and consistency into the defence. And as one he touched on, you're never sure when Sako's on the ball. It looks like he's a really silky touch sometimes. It looks like he's quite sloppy and you're winning from what's a mistake. Skirtle, we just know what he's about. He's not what we're talking about. I think that's a great point there. But I just thought, Chan, you know, for 20-year-old, it was such composure, confidence, you know, creating that extra bit of room for him. And I just felt, I didn't feel assured during the game, but I felt less dodgy of any defence since Karigar has basically been in there. In terms of overall performance as well, I thought the first time I interrupted the first 60 minutes, I thought, really, listen, these guys haven't created anything. We looked really, really solid. I thought the game opened up a bit and we might touch on this a little bit later, but I still think Lucas's legs is going around the 70-minute mark. I thought the game really opens up then. And I thought then the guys got a bit exposed at the back, but if they have proper protection or proper defensive midfielder in there, then, I mean, it looked pretty solid for the three guys that we actually have there. Yeah, fair enough. Unless anyone else has anything to say in that, I think. Just on the Sako thing, right? I think it's more Sako's visuals when he's on the ball, as opposed to what he actually does with the ball that makes people start to nervous about him. He's an orthodox in the way he plays a pass or the way he runs and his whole running style. And if he was running like Chan or like Skirt, I don't think there would be as much dodginess thrown at him, right? And even going back to the goal, and I think it's worth talking about the goal that we did concede because the goal, there's a couple of things happen. Chan misses the header, obviously, from the initial cross that comes over, right? And it gives him a chance to set back up. Now, when the ball comes back in, what I couldn't understand on that move is that Skirt was Mark and Boney, right? Chan had the next man else that was about to cross the ball back in. There was no other player coming into the box at that stage because Lucas was with Sigurdsson, right? But Skirt was passing Boney onto Sako, right? So the ball comes over, Sako deals with the trest, but what I couldn't understand about what Skirt was doing was, he didn't seem to react to going into it, feeling the space that if he's passed him on and was allowing Boney to, you know, to allow Sako to deal with the Boney part, he should be moving back to that near post, so that if the ball drops, he's there to clear Kanoa. He knows Mignoli's not going to come out of his line, right? So that's where, so when Sako does get the header down, Skirt was facing Sako instead of being either Squirt, it was back to Mignoli so that he can react to, you know, go side to side for it, or taking two more steps to the right to clear the actual ball away. And it's the courts and gets in, and it's only one of Lucas's plots in his copy book last night, and he didn't track the runner, and, you know, we've criticized Gerard for this, we've criticized anyone that's played in there that hasn't been good enough, Joe Allen, the whole lot has gotten it, but he doesn't track the runner, you know, he's the attacking, so Gordon is the attacking midfielder, and that's where you needed Lucas there to step in and go with him, so he didn't get a clear run the way he did to just find the spot as the ball drops down, he knocks it home, but at the same time, you know, something that Mick said, "I think anyway, that back tree was the best defense, as good defensively as we've played all season." And I think we didn't cover any real clear-code chances, apart from the sack-out pass directly after that equalizing goal. And as much as we've all got our hearts and our mouths, there's an awful lot of this comes from the fact that every time we've played this season, we've looked vulnerable on crosses. We wear a lot more solid on crosses last night. We still cover up a few chances that you'd be saying to yourself, "Ooh, don't know about that," but that will build. The confidence there will build if those three are left to play and build a relationship together. One of the biggest issues that we've had defensively, and this is now slightly the manager and the players, but we've consistently chopped and changed and chopped and changed and chopped and changed and chopped and changed. And we haven't put the right players in, so now we've got the right players in there. Let's leave them in there. Let's let them figure out how to play together as a unit. And if it's still not good enough after five or six games playing together, then you change something round. But you don't just change it for a change of sake, because the two young wingbacks that are there, you've got enough to cover the tree in the sentiment field, and we need to now let something bed in and try to build something. Because if we keep chopping and changing the defense, the thing about... I was looking at the Chelsea thing, Chelsea, while they've rotated around most of the players, they've had very little rotation in the back four. And you know, that because you build up a relationship, and only once you have a relationship build up what your fourth back four is, or back four ever, back three or whatever we're going to do, then can you start moving players in and out for the occasional game to give them rest when needs be? And it's now is a chance to bed something that looks like it has foundations, solid foundations, because the one thing our defense hasn't had, all it sees in the solid foundations, and maybe just now we've got the right tree in those positions. Well, we're going to talk later on about how likely or probably unlikely it is that those guys remain in situ. But Paul, Manquillo and Moreno, these guys look really, really natural. They have to be our future. Moreno, another goal of really good rating display, solid defensively, the younger chap on the other side, Manquillo, energetic, positionally sound. I rate demand highly, even though a lot of people seem to give them a lot of golf. They have to stay in situ, don't they? I mean, they really are our best options. Yeah, I love the two of them. I love their kind of like, what? I love the two of them. Not normally, but I love them anyway. But I love the attitude that they have towards kind of defending. It's like they're taking it personally when someone tries to go past them. It's not like, you know, Glenson. You know, when people go past him, he's kind of jogging back. It's not like that. I think the two of them, both of them have brilliant kind of recovery rates when they're defending. We saw there was one time, I think it was Routledge. Got, you know, it looked like he was getting our chance and had a moist later. And from nowhere, Manquillo just goes in and next the ball. Yeah. I think, like, I was interested to see how Manquillo do because I think when, you know, trying to create something in the final turret, I think that's his big weakness when he does get up there. But he has the engine to get up and down. And he has the mobility that can, you know, he can occupy the frienders. He can make them think about things when he's moving off the ball. But again, I think he kind of showed that he didn't do really much with the ball. But there was quite a lot of times when we got it into the box and he was sniffing around. I think he was sniffing around and about to the first goal, the one that Lelana blazed over the bar. He was in the box again there. As he often is. Yeah. So I think he gets up and down really well. He just, he could really do what improving his kind of, his final ball and his decision-making and to be more positive with his decision-making in the last turret. I'm going to go, Moly, and talk to you in a few minutes a bit further about Manquillo. But Mick, just for now on Moreno, he did really, whatever about people talking about dirt, there are options at the right back. He really is our option and our only option at the left back. He's far and away our best player in the opposition, isn't he? Yeah, it's probably not saying much though on saying he's under your option there. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. That's pretty poor. It's like I thought he was very good. He showed a lot of energy. I think he showed a lot of good signs, what we've seen. He got into the box quite a bit and in the formation of 343, I think it's important that your guys get that. I think you get with to the play, which he normally does. I still think he has a bit to work on. I feel when we're going forward in an attacking sense. I feel sometimes I look that he's always going to take the guy in the outside and whip it in. Or he just tucks inside and plays a simple ball to Lucas there. So I feel he can interact with those players around him. I hope he can grow with the likes of Coutinho and Lana because there's a lot of intricacy there, delicate passes, quick movement and I don't feel he reads that play well. So I think there's a lot to work on in the attacking sense, but I think he can get there. It's not something that he can't work on. Defensively, I think he's quite good. I also think the two guys have a great balance, Mankio and Moreno. I think that's mostly down to Mankio. I think they have Hendrik on the AI podcast talks about it quite a lot. But when you have these attacking wing backs, you have to have the other guy that's actually holding back. I think Mankio does that really, really well. One other thing just quickly to touch on Mankio is in the club and for a long, long time. I think he's got one of the best one-on-one skills when he's defending. One of the really important things that he does as well is I feel when somebody's crossing the border, somebody's actually taking him on, I feel that he does something that is really quite basic and you're actually taught at a quite an early age, but he actually cuts the angle off as well. So as the guy's coming in to do his straight down, he's not only closing him down because Glenn closes people down, but he gives them ages of space. And he's very cute the way he does it. He just narrows the angle so all of a sudden it's just playing. You just don't realize that you've actually got no room. So I think he's doing that really, really well. I think these guys have got to be our right-left backs or if we're going to be playing them wide enough in 343, I think they're really important and there should be the two guys that we're using pushing forward. Yeah, yeah. Molly, just before we move away from those two guys and I wanted to ask you about something that I've been hearing rumors about during the week and I'm hoping it's complete golf. But this story for what is worth about Mankio's contract, perhaps not the option of being taken up to extend further. Have you heard anything on this? I've heard regards that is that Mankio is feeling a little bit homesick. You know, we have to remember, he's only a young kid, he's over no country and tried to settle in. But I can't see he's low on being caught shocked at in time zone. I expect the couple probably wait till the summer and see how he's feeling then. And it is the homesick that's still there. Is it affecting his game or not? I can't see anything happening in this genre anyway. Yeah, well, I think it's crossed. Phil, we'll move it a little bit up the pitch now unless there's an answer you want to talk about in regards to those two. And have a look at Jordan Henderson, he's back in the middle. No coincidence really, he's back on form alongside Lucas, who I know we talked about him a few minutes ago. And you mentioned, you know, and that makes mention as well that his legs perhaps go at a certain point. But when he was efficient, he was quite efficient in my opinion. Would you agree with that? Is it a sign for Brendan in relation to his relations? Yeah, it is a sign in relation to Stevie and the usage. Well, why do you think? Yeah, I suppose if you're not going to play Emory Chan in the sentiment field alongside Henderson, then the next option for me in that setup has to be to play Lucas because I don't think Stephen Gerard is a viable option for as a 90 minute player. I don't think the way he wants us to play fits his game. I don't think with the tree up front that we have suit his game. And to be honest with you, I just don't see where he fits into the team at the moment because he's like a fish out of waters. As I said, at one point last night there was an opportunity to bring him in and that's when it went completely nuts. When it was just so open that it was just going up and down or everything was a counter attack. This is your mayhem theory. Yeah, that's when he would have been perfect for the game. But when we were in control of the game and more control, then I've seen Aeroside for a long, long time, he doesn't fit that. He's just tactically unaware when he's playing in the midfield. And you can see the difference when we play. And you could even see, look, I didn't think Lucas was particularly brilliant last night. I thought his legs went out to 24 minutes, right? We had complete control of the midfield of that station. After that, he just seemed to slow off and Aeromidfield seemed to drop off a little bit more because he wasn't covering the ground from, say, 25 yards inside the 24 yards of the airbox at that point. And it sort of causes us to drop a little deep. And that's not me being saying he was shit, right? I just didn't, I thought he did very well in there. Doing what he does. Did you notice the ironic chair when it was a forward pass from only 60 minutes? Well, I think that's balanced. It pisses me off. We've been given away so many stupid fucking goals. We played 60-yard passes to fucking nobody, right? Not involved. Aeroside's second goal comes from a fucking haymaker of a stupid pass that gets cut out because you can read it from, it was like it was sent by a fucking slow poster for Christmas. It was that bad, right? And they just break down the left-hand side and discard a goal. We kept control of the ball. People were saying, oh, this is boring, blah, blah, blah. We were making chances. We scored a fucking goal. It always felt like in the fourth half that we were going to score. Look, we were building it. We were playing with really good control in terms of what was going on. And we looked at, no, we actually looked for the fourth time in the long while that we knew what we were doing when we were on the ball and how we were going to break them down. And, you know, going back to the idea of the two lads who are playing the wing backs, they held their wit and it allows it facilitate to continue on the lana to not have to go away. They want to come inside out of time. So if you have two lads who naturally want, who are able to hug the line and are disciplined and hug on the line, it gives cutenia on the lana more freedom than they were getting to say. We're Henderson and Markovitch because both of them wanted to come inside as well. And you could see that it was slightly different structured and we were able to peg them back a lot better. And it was much better than we said when we went to Bournley because the Bournley thing was a disaster. You know, we were so blessed to come out of the Bournley match the way we did. But that's what I'm saying. Lucas was very effective and it gave him what he did. I just felt that he lacks mobility. And if there's one thing that does become noticeable as a game where it wears on is that lack of mobility because when he twers a bit more, it becomes more pronounced. And teams do start to get chances around a 60, 70 minute mark. If you have another midfield, say we saw another midfield. I'm not going to use somebody else's call, but say we did saw another midfielder who, you know, is a good sentiment field and can play box to box. Then I think you see us go on again, that midfield going again to another level because it just gives you that noter 10% that we don't have. And another 10% that I don't think Stephen Gerard will bring to the game. I don't think, and again, I'm not sure Joellen does because he will lack physically against the bigger center mids. So the only real option is Emery Cham, but we've said that we want to keep our defense the way it is. So if you move him, then you're changing the defense again. Molly, there's a hell of a lot more than a 10% differential between Jordan Henderson as a right sided back and Jordan Henderson in the middle where he was superb yesterday. It's lovely seeing him doing what he does properly against him. Yeah, but he looks a better player without Joellen. Much to say, Mike, like Lucas, when Joellen doesn't play, he seems like Henderson steps up that level. Lucas even steps up that little bit of level. He's still not a career player, let's be honest with you, but he's much better than he is when Joellen is in the same side. So I think that has to say something. Personally, probably like Phil, I think the right ones on the wall for Stevie, this stage. No, he's been a legend at the club and he'll probably go down on his behavior best ever player. But I think he needs to take a time on that. That subsbench and leave Henderson captain as I leave in the middle. And as Phil said, maybe give Chen that chance to partner in a bit field. Yeah, yeah. Well, we're going to come on to that. We're looking forward to the next match and talk about potential selections there. But speaking about lads who actually were there, Paul, both the lads there have touched on Lucas and Lucas's work in the game. To look at the positives, he was very disciplined in terms of that thing that he does with giving away fields. That was impressive. He didn't do much of that. He did use the ball very tightly. And for a lad who's supposed to be bollocks completely, I thought his energy levels were decent over the 90s. You just don't agree with how he was bollocks. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. After hosting one, give us a give us your opinion on Lucas. I thought I was delighted with him. I thought he was hell of a lot better than I was expecting. Personally, yesterday I was delighted with him. Yeah, OK. There's so much more he could give. And yes, he does turn inside. Even contrary to what you're saying, he does turn inside. And I think the crowd were actually having a genuine laugh when that ball went forward. Because he always takes the more, the more... Two weeks ago, we had a shot. Yeah, he had a shot. Two shots, got us two shots. But look, I suppose when I'm driving the police... He didn't turn backwards with them. But like, yeah, he didn't properly turn forwards. Well, in the same poll, look, if this is the future or the immediate future, it's not the worst, does it? No, look, I think when you surround Lucas properly with players, I think he can do a decent job for you. We're always not like he's not macherento in terms of positioning or anything. But he is diligent enough. He wants to do his best to kind of plug any gaps that he sees. I think I'm actually quite a fan of the way he distributes, but I don't think he did. He was particularly adventurous last night. I don't think he needed to be. I think the way we popped it around, we got around once anyway. We didn't have to necessarily go straight through them. But yeah, I think he gets the ball, and I think he does look for a forward pass. There wasn't many of them on last night. But the thing about him is he'll just move the ball as quick as he can then. If there's no immediate forward pass. Which seems to stay there. Yeah, he'll recycle it. Whereas I think coming back to Jared again, I think Jared dawdles on the ball. Sometimes Jared has the ball at his feet and he's kind of pointing to have people, "You gotta make that one out of the corner flag so I can ping it." And he's like, "Just move it on." "Just move it on, move it on, move it on, get some more space to see if you can play something." But I think Lucas does keep him kind of nice and tidy. And I think the team shape, yes, they helped him. I thought we were really solid. And I think that they had helped him. And Henderson obviously does a lot of running. They opened down the picture. He got the assist for the first goal. He was everywhere. So yeah, I think Lucas can do a good job as long as he's surrounded by people who won't leave him stranded. And Henderson didn't. Yeah, we'll be speaking about team shape more when we talk about Brendan and his tactics later on. And actually Paul, before I move on to make really close the fucking door because it's freezing. I'm actually freezing. I'm not well. Is that it? No, you haven't got this set up. No, we're not looking. We're not looking. We're not looking at the whole thing. We've got them both. In the pit there, Paul. It's just like, you picked a bad week. Is that a new hatching up? It is a new problem. It's a problem. It's a problem. Yeah, thanks. I'm happy with that one. Right. It makes it so part. Oh my God. Thank you, Kenny, you bastard. Hey, respect my entire time. Mick, the land and continue are absolutely top-notch displays from both of them. It was lovely seeing them doing their thing and free to do their thing, which was based on the platform that was behind them, I suppose, for the most part. Moving freely, passing the ball beautifully, driven with the ball, it gives us a completely new dimension. And it was part of the fun factor, if not the fun factor, wasn't that last night? Yeah, absolutely. It was much like the fun three we had last year, probably not with the same quality. But I think the platform, as the guys comprehensively covered, was set in front of them. I thought Henderson and Lucas played it really, really simple, really straightforward. Henderson did get forward a bit. He did have an assist for the first one, but I think he chose his moments to move forward. So I think there was a very good solid structure behind them, but the movement up front, I thought, was exceptional. Yeah. With Atlanta Coutinho, obviously the two guys who stole the eye, particularly Coutinho, I thought he ran the shot. I think where he's playing, where he's playing, which is part, I don't know if you see the apex of the diamond, or where he drifts out, it's probably hard to pinpoint where he actually plays. But I like it as he's playing as a slightly advanced midfielder, and he's linking the play up. I think he turns the fence into attack very, very quickly. I think he knows when to take on a guy. Even he met Mattich a few weeks ago, looked quite bad a couple of times where he went by him. So I think his movement was really, really good. Just to touch on, I suppose it's a slightly different one we get on there, but I thought one of the things that really helped the two of guys, Portland, Atlanta, Coutinho, was starting his movement. He didn't really catch the eye as a man of the match performer last night, but you see Atlanta's second goal. Starting makes a really intelligent run. It's pretty much like something you see Suarez do, and it's something that I just look at this. I think if Palatelli was in there, there's no end in a million years. He makes that run. He doesn't have that intelligence off the bat. Like you said, we will speak with Sterling, individually, and about that particular point that you're making, which is a good one. But it goes back to what you're talking about. It's a trio, and they're working really well. Yeah, absolutely. I think you're linking quite well. Atlanta last night, even though he did play really, really well, I mean, the first one where he asked the ball, pressed the ball down. I mean, I was really happy for him because no one works hard on him. And sometimes he's running around like a fucking lunatic, you know, and you're thinking, what are you doing? A guy just drives it back and he runs for you. Can I ask you, which did you enjoy more? That goal or a second one? Oh, a second one for sure. Oh, come on. The first one is just a funny one. It's much better cracked off. Molly, is it true that we lodged the bid for Fabianski after Rajasana? Well, what was he doing left? He actually turned Saanelana and run towards the car. I know what I do. I just hit it off him. He said he'd turn a full-on mini later. But the way that Atlanta press was really intelligent, because he gave him, he cut off the pass to the Fabianski straight. Fabianski, well, he didn't really do cut it off. Fabianski just went for it anyway. On one side, I was like, don't go that way. Don't say the pitch where Fabianski could have went. No, I just hit it off to Atlanta. He said to Fabianski, you're launching it long onto our centre-backs, which is what you should do. Way on running, actually. He cut off the obvious pass out. The one Fabianski is going to take. Fabianski just took it anyway. Like Atlanta said, you might get one or two in your career where the keeper will do something like that, and it pays off. I don't think he was expecting the keeper to actually do that. I think he was saying, you can hooft and stray onto every three centre-backs later. I think what Mouldy even alluded to there as well, is like, it's the stupidest pass to play. You can go anywhere. Anyway... He's going for it fully, don't you ever say? He got like the holds in here, he's now was open. You've got to kick it all the way down. You know where Minule looks to pop it all the time? No tree. Look at K.M. And he's wearing down that leg. And he's just like, what do you do on that for? And then it goes in, and then he's saying, go, oh God. Shucks. But Moly, as I said, as I said to him, it was more enjoyable almost than the second goal, just for that reason, the crack level was true. The roof, wasn't it? I did enjoy the second goal more, just for that Coutinho's back-key. Oh, wow, yeah. It felt golf if it was a tree. It was just the one in the back-key. You old stuff, so I thought it was fantastic. But remember the one in the fourth half where the trademark Coutinho flick nearly came off again? Yeah, unbelievable. I want to trademark after Tim. Yeah, you know, the trademark. The Coutinho. He called it the Coutinho. He pulled off the Coutinho. He got the debt in front of the round-up. That's what it was. Yeah, that was exciting. Yeah, it was a great the Coutinho he pulled off. He was the great the Coutinho. He spoke to me a little bit about that second goal. You were talking about the movement between the front players. You were right. Sterling's run is very important for that. Yeah, absolutely. And as the guy said, it was a thick move. It reminded me so much of last year. And when I was looking at that, and kind of straight after the game, when I thought about it, I just kept thinking, "God, when storage comes back into the team." Because I think now, Lana and Coutinho are starting in on the same wavelength. And in that system, it seems to really work. Sterling's movement, obviously. And I think Sterling has learned a lot from Suarez, but also storage as well. I feel he's learned quite a bit from. So I want to see the three of them. The link up to that move was slick three passes. The beautiful flick by Coutinho and Lana. But that's the time I don't mind Lana taking those extra touches. When I get a bit pissed off, when he's far out on the wings, and you're sometimes saying, "Play the slick one, two. Look at the movement is starting. Give it quick." But in that situation was the right thing where defenders are moving across and you have to decide where to go. "Do I make the tackle now?" And it's a percentage thing as a center half. "Do I make the tackle now?" He did the right thing. He dragged it on and then he took it by the second player. And the finish was really, really good. And I think that's the type of player that we actually signed because we didn't sign the guy who hangs out in the wings and takes too many touches. His link up there last year, I thought, particularly with... Excuse me, with Lambert and Rodriguez. I thought it was really slick in and around the box. And I think we've seen signs of that so far. But I think there's much, much more to actually come from him. And a lot of people have been down on him because of the price tag, including myself, because sometimes when you look for a 25-minute-pound player, you want somebody that's going to come in, get you 12 goals and maybe 10 assists a year. He might not actually just get that. But I feel there's a lot more to come from him. And maybe with the likes of Sturridge, you might see an extra 20% from him. The truth of your statement there is being born out here. Everyone's got contrasting views on the same players. Everyone is right. Everyone is right. Everything is right. Everything is right. Everything is right. But it is. It is. Everyone is right. Everyone is right. Everyone is right. It's everywhere you pick last night because those mistakes but those outs are brilliant. There was just something happening all the time. And you know, it's been a long time since we've seen a whole match like that, where there was something happening all the time and something that we could... Like, there's even that move that we haven't even touched. Which was just fucking sex football. It was sex football. Sex football. Sex football. Sex football is right on the table. Go on. The quickness of the past and the movement, the way it went from side to side and the pitch and then finally the finish had that gone in. That's going back to what the lad says. That's sterling as Suarez there. You know, even the outside of the build tried to bend it into the fair corner. That's the whole... That's what we did brilliantly last year. We broke so quickly. Now, Deimor has been banging on about in his mass depression of blackness that he's in at the club. I'll pour it a funny. I can say that because he's not even going to listen to it. It's got to do with the football. Football is at the point. Now the ball looks... No, it's not. He was giving out a stinker at that force half. Yeah. But it has the pace there again. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just that real quick pace. And it goes back to what we were talking about. The quick interchange of passing where they're not looking to play a 40-50 year ball. You know, it's just that real slick movement that's there and they seem to know where they're going again. And, you know, it's for a straight and bitter to take him so long. It's taking us 15 games to get there. It's taking us 15 games and playing shite. Yeah. Oh, it's our fucking shite. Yeah. And the static garbage shite ball to get to a point where we're like, "You know what? Maybe if we try three quick lads up top, or maybe if we try to pull fast lads on the pitch, things might happen." No fucking shit, cheer up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember it. It did remember that. Yeah. I'll tell you what, there must have been a DVD made for Christmas or something. You know, at the back end of last season, and fucking somebody gave it. Brendan, did you know early Christmas present? Did you know that? No, no, no, no, no. [LAUGHTER] Those quick lads changed. Jesus, yeah. Yeah. Molly, one of the quick lads that Phil's alluded there and Mick mentioned early on is sterling. It was a pretty mature, unforeseen kind of discipline performance from him. Yeah, okay, yeah. We did see signs of his technique, but he's held for football, isn't he? I mean, he really led that line well and held that central position and made those discipline runs that, you know, allowed Coutinho and Lallana to do damage. Yeah, well, we've been crying out for this for a while, and on the show, Trevor Gares putting sterling up top, you know. Yeah. As Phil said, we've been absolute rubbish for the last 15 games and it was probably four games ago. Rogers finally decides to put a quick lead, where's the bit of technique? Where's the bit of guide? Who has something about him in sterling up top? And he's finally paying dividends. As Phil said, why didn't we do this? You know, 14, 15 games ago. Yeah. When storage was forced out, the first thing we should have did was put sterling up top. But look, that's done now. There's nothing that we can do about it. If it was move forward, but you know, it's sterling. What a lovely footballer he is. I mean, he just has that bit of confidence about him that he'll take on anyone. He doesn't mind who I defended, where he or big name, whatever it is, he's going to run at you, he's going to try trick, he's going to try to get a shot off. I love watching this kind of thing, I really do. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're not alone there. Paul, we shouldn't let the game go, or the review of the game got passed, so they mentioned a couple of incidents that had everyone there. Poorly. Everyone dying. No, that's not a matter of this. Poorly didn't happen. I was in a house and I didn't see it. I was, you know, that's what he wasn't even mentioned in the fucking agenda. I didn't see that game. I didn't see it. I didn't try and see it. I started to go. That was a great goal. That was a great game. I didn't see it. Therefore, it didn't happen. Let's move on. I want to talk about a couple of incidents from last night. John Joe's elbow on Emory Chan. That's not easy, isn't it? It was, yeah, but I don't really mind seeing, you know, players get away with a healthy brother. I was hoping Emory would get him back properly, you know, like properly for him. Yeah, exactly. Well, has John Joe showed you put on a lot of waiters, just me? He looked like Charlie Adam flown around. They showed that, you know, they kept showing the replay, like, you know, of the elbow. And in the build up, he takes a pass about three of our players. And I'm like, how is he going past you? Because he's Voldemort. That's why he's got magic. John, John or Charlie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about Mr Sterling's own little incident to finish that? Yeah, that thought I got him in trouble. That was a bit silly. And it wasn't even a proper kind of nail in the face that was worth it. If you're going to go, you want to do it right? Like, he could get in trouble. He could have got in trouble. Like, some serious trouble for that for absolutely nothing. Yeah. And like Gary Neville said, the linesman is right beside your man's face. Sterling nearly hits the linesman in your man. Like, so I don't know how he didn't kind of get sent off. He got sent off two yards away as well. Yeah. You're having a meeting. What are you doing? Yeah. I think it's willful. They just didn't want to engage with it. Maybe. Which suits us down to the ground. Yeah. Well, yeah. Because we get to keep. Well, can I say on Shelby, right? Yeah. You know, a lot was made of the way he'd get a round of applause and stuff. And he goes back. Oh, he goes back. Oh, fuck off. You know, he's a head case. You know what I mean? Yeah. When he was there and he's a Liverpool player. Yeah. A plot of ways support the whole lot, right? On the elbows, one of your own players in the face. That doesn't deserve every 100 applause. And, you know, today he's saying that, you know, it was an accident and I didn't mean to do it. He threw the elbow back. He could see it in a slam ocean. He flings the elbow back. And he has to lift it up over his shoulder because, like, the fucking man, these charm was fucking there. I don't know. But the best bit was the... John got the elbow on the face and still continued to just nudge him away from the bottom. And then decided to go down. He was like, "Ah, right." Sort of, "Ah, no, no." Just show up to physicality. Like, as you said, he'd run past a load of fellas and he comes up to challenge us. You're not getting past me. It doesn't matter. I hope you're getting past me. I just had some shoving them off the ball. Without having to do anything, just shove them off the ball. And it's like, you're there going, and then the own goal was the icing on the cake. It was not. He was in "Fucking the Land" as he had given him the big dolly box on the fucking... The big dolly box! What was he doing? The dolly box. The big dolly box. I'd love to translate for you. Listen to this. I had to fucking show up. Come on. Before the corner. And he was like, "I think he's still giving it to my fucking age." I was like, "Huh?" The chap is so brain dead. He hadn't embraced what was going on. Yeah. And because he's not droppish onesie, you could say he's there. Say you've got horse doing the one dolly box. This is going to be your new little corner every week. It's opening your phrase up, is it? You just fucked that up. That's not... No, it's just there. Yeah, it is. Oh, that was brilliant. It's the danger of a skynundrum. Get your hands on it. Get your hands on it tomorrow. What did you feel me? What did you feel me? OK, let's look forward then to the next couple of games. We'll focus mostly on the Leicester match, but we'll also have a... A little look forward to the FA Cup tie as well against AFC Wimbledon. Make a repeat of the result in the Leicester game, of the previous fixture against them, would be pretty welcome, especially on the back of last night's win. I think we definitely hope for a more impressive display. Leicester, despite the low lead position they have, just notched a win there against Steve Bruce's crowd. How are you feeling heading into this game in terms of your optimism levels of us getting a result? Well, pretty optimistic for the first time in a while. Yeah. In terms of what you said, yeah, the result would be good what we got against Leicester the last time, but in terms of performance it was really poor. We gave away an awful lot of the ball. When they got a man sent off, we finally buried the game. The score line was very flattering the last day. Wasn't enjoyed the game. No, it was the exact opposite of last night. The exact opposite of last night. So, yeah, but listen really and truly, in terms of the dangers and the pros and cons, like I mean, that got you a little upfront played. It started very, very well this season, but he hasn't scored in a long time. The guy, Mares, has got an assistant goal, an assistant and a goal in the last two games, but I mean, bar for that you did mention the beat hole one nil, but the last two games they've lost. The fact of the matter is they're bottom of the league, the bottom of the league for a reason. They did start the season quite well, but as an awful lot of teams come up, they do huff and puff for the first few weeks. I never liked to get one of the promoter teams in the first four or five weeks, because I feel they run around, they're motivated. They're just high on every, I don't know what they're high on, but they're high on something because they cover every plate of grass. They're like, they're like, I let it go on the drain on speed for the first five or six weeks, but that kind of dies and then the quality just kind of kicks in. So really and truly like, I mean, they did have a good performance against hold, but if we play, I mean, 80, 90% to the way we play at the last day, we should be beating them and beating them quite comfortably. I just want to point that we are saying that let it go on the drain, have a dope and program around. Definitely not. Definitely not under friend as this box. It's much of my doctor for this. Paul, you're not saying that. That's quite an help. Yeah, we're not saying that I think it all dodgy Paul, so let's change the subject back to the actual match. Power aid. Lester, how happy are you looking forward to that one? How content are you that Liverpool get a result? Yeah, well, as confident as you can really be considering our season, like that game last night, like after the game was kind of the most relaxed there've been since probably the Suarez game. After I'm sitting back, not sitting back on Jesus. This area was crap. That was like, we got away with this or anything. It was fairly comprehensive and I'm just so I'm really happy with it. The only thing now is like it is blending on to keep it the same. I think as long as we keep it kind of the same as much about the team as the same as possible. I think we should be fairly comfortable. Yeah, yeah, hopefully. Molly, are you looking forward to this with a smile on your face? Yeah, we should have too much. We should have too much for them, Trev. Now, having said that, I would be worried just as Paul said, Lassa was supposed to play, and since they're this Suarez game, I can't tell you how sick it is saying I was. Just this elusive Suarez game that we played so well. So I don't want it to be six or seven games down the road. And I'm like, "Could you remember that Swansea game?" [laughter] For me, I'd like to kick out from the air and forget about singular games and more so go on and run the games. That'd be much better. Yeah, yeah. Phil, speaking of getting on a run the games, what do Lassa have for us to be concerned about? Dr. Fuentes? As you are. [laughter] You're not dragging me into this. [laughter] To make my Tinder frontman Ujoa, what else? Maris. And players. And other players. Yeah, I was so angry watching the last Lassa game. I'm having a clue who plays in the game. [laughter] I think that's fair enough. They were just running around all the time and being bored, and we were being crap-like against Lassa. So, you know, when you're just like, "Fuck's sake!" Yeah, it was the likes of Fardy and that that really do hurt us, because they have a right go at you. Yeah. But going back, I think, looking at it, I would imagine we would probably see the same line of the play against Swansea, right? Because Brendan has an excuse to put your arm back into the team against Wimbledon on the Monday. And assuming that they play well and win the match against Wimbledon, he then has the excuse to put whoever plays well and that team back into his league team. So, you know, he can be seen to, you know, be keeping the fans inside and the whole lot by playing the same team that won against Swansea. He knows that nobody's going to be- Baris Girl. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Baris Girl, yeah. Baris Girl, that's like a team. Yeah, it is. A bad think about him. And you do you think that's likely, do you? Well, all those boys lurking around with- Well, yeah, I think Tori will play. I think Tori will just make a straight swap and put Tori in for Skirtle. And he'll play the battery. That's there. He'll play the same. Look, how can you not reward those players for their performance? Hello. Hello there. Yeah, sorry. That's me allowing to make sure I wake up and sign out from work that is- Hello. Hello there. Yeah, sorry. That's me allowing to make sure I wake up and sign out from work that is- It's just a very hard to bury you today so it's gone. Sorry about the lead. Yeah, I'm jumping brilliant. You shouldn't even be able to machine log off. Oh, yeah. No, only you couldn't print off an agenda from me again. But yeah, you know, generally I think that if there's a time that he's going to play that and, you know, going back, I think they deserved it. Look, just beating Swansea for one, they're putting their most comprehensive performance at home. We've scored a load of goals. They're young- they're a young side, right? Oh, lads. Young lads. And they shouldn't be fated- given that most of them haven't played in a hundred years, you know, they won't be fatigued having to play two games in quick succession. And why not play against them? Why not give Leicester something else to think about? Leicester are thinking like the last time we played, we played the Lambert Liverpool, right? And now they will not be looking forward. I think they played three at the back of the last time against us. Don't, can't remember. Neither can I, do I just, Leicester players. But like, you know, literally, if we played that tree up front, we're going to cast them a hell of a lot more problems than we'd cast them the last day. Well, Phil, do you not get the feeling that, like, it's all gone too nicely at the moment and we're looking for fans and we can't have nice things? So, like, he's not going to keep it all the same. He's going to put Lovren back in. He's going to put Gera back in and Leicester, they're doing too poorly for us to beat them. Like, they're bottom of the wave and they're crap. So, it just screams, kind of like, this is the kind of thing where, you know, Liverpool's true. And we just have to turn up today, lads, and then fucking, right, he runs around, he's a pain in the hole, and Mingley punches the ball into his arm there. The best thing, the best thing Rodgers could do to stop that is stick up the Wimbledon team in the dressing room and say, right, these are the lads playing against Wimbledon. And they have Glenson, and they have Gerard, and they have all the lads. No, that will then, straight away, will get the fucking players to go out and put in the performance that they need. They can't be complacent because they know that no matter what they do, they'll be dropped for the following league game. Well, no matter what they do, they'll be dropped for the following league game. But, you know, I just think that you have to reward those players. You have to reward them for the performance they put in. You can't go back and replace them with all the fellas who haven't played well for the course of the season after the back of the performance. What incentive is there then for those players to do well? Like, Rodgers himself said he wanted to change around the team. It's a busy spell, the whole blah, blah, blah. He's a 24-year-old sentiment fielder who will be better served, coming off the bench and impacting games when he can with 24 minutes or so to go. At worst, that will get the players' confidence back. So when he goes back in for 90 minutes, he's going to have a better effect on the game. And that's the way we should be using your ad. The way City have used Lampair to grade effect. We're just, we're born on him out quicker than he should have been born. To be honest with you, right? And we wanted to have a good second half of the season that he did last year. How did you do that? You can serve him. You use him wisely in this team. You can put him into that front tree if you wanted that points. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But the fact that he didn't come on, that kind of says to me, like, that's what I'm kind of thinking. He's going to put him straight back in against last thing. It doesn't matter how well Anderson played there. If he does, he's going to drop Lucas. Because Lucas has played the last train around. So Jared Henderson. Yeah. And that worked really well in the World Cup. He's brilliant. And make what do you think the likelihood of us seeing that team rewarders, Phil says, and that's keeping their place. Obviously with the exception of Skirl. And how likely is it that you think that Jared will come back in? When you say obviously not Skirl, is he injured? Is he suspended? Oh, he's suspended. I remember when he pulled the charts off your man. Literally pulled the charts off your man. And it was big. Woo! Around the trail. That's where the light went around this chart. So it was great. Yeah. That's what I think could be pretty similar. The only thing I'd be slightly worried about is if he goes the other way and said, well, these guys have played too many games. I want to rotate. I would do it the same as the guys are talking about. Put out your full strength team for this. If you want to bring guys in, that's for Wimbledon away. You bring in all those guys. And I think you can make a lot of wholesale changes for a game like this. I think we can still make some small changes and win it. But do I think that's the right thing to do? And should we do that? Then I'd say absolutely not. But it is a slight worry. And as a ball said, you know, everything's just gone so well. Like you can just see him throwing somebody in here that we fucking hit. Like Johnson or something. And we're all Christian ourselves and we draw one on and we go. It's all because of Glenn. Yeah. Liverpool anti-logic I suppose. Well, look, before we get to anything in even vaguely resembling predictions, we've established that we know fuck all about Leicester. So let's look at a team that we know we've been asked about. Leicester players. Which is AFC Wimbledon. Crazy gang. Finney Jones. Laurie Sanchez. You're just saying stuff. You're just saying stuff. You're just saying stuff from your childhood stuff. Stop saying stuff from your childhood. Molly, talk to me a little bit about this. Very pure. FA Cup match. How interested are you in this competition this season? And what do you think our chances of winning it are? It's a lovely FA Cup as a kid. But I have to be answering. I'm not really too interested in any more. It's not a league cup for me. You know, if it's not a league, if it's not the Champions League, after this, there's not much importance in it. Like, I'd love to see the FA Cup winner as being given a chess in Champions League. You've done the Champions League's fight instead of four plays. Yeah. Maybe that would give us, you know, something, some reason, the goldfish push. At the moment, it's just in a recovery game. We've got a couple on, it gives us a bit of confidence. We've got into the league. Fantastic. But if not, well. I take it from... Can you stop trying to kill flies in the film studio? I take from that, Molly, that you're not particularly interested in one way or the other. Is that fair saying? As a result, then, would you be not particularly interested? It is a weakened team that's filled. Yeah, I would be particularly interested in a weakened team. And I expect it to be a weakened team. Like, I expected it to rise, to love rings, to cleanse, to come in, which is a weakened team. As we probably look at it now. But I think we still have too much, probably mostly, and we should be going through. As I said, it would be nice to want a bit of a couple on. But if we're an act of ocean, a fort, a fifth round, I wouldn't take as a big day. Yeah. Paul, there is just a feel about this. Adi, I can throw in the boys, Fay was, and the boys. They have something about them. There's some sort of an uneasy feeling. Like, a crazy feeling? Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Like, if they were a gang. Yeah, like a gang. It was crazy. Yeah. Anyway, how do you feel about this? Well, I want to win. I'm a decent fan of Cuprons. Like, remember, you had the two under Kenny, the two Cuprons. And I liked them. The only thing that I didn't like about them was the fact that they had them happen in a shite season, basically. You know, a lot of people said, "No, it doesn't matter." Like, that didn't matter, because he was crapping the league. And he was, so the Cuprons didn't matter. I liked them. I didn't think it was enough fun to keep his job. Like, if we can go on a run and keep the league fun going, then I'd be delighted because I love it. But yeah, it does stay in touch with this thing. Your man's getting all the publicity, the house that they have a phone phone. Like, I don't know where they get to Jersey. It's probably a blanket from the clip shop. Yeah, man, it's massive. Like, I don't know. And we probably will kind of play a weak in the fence against some sort. You know, we have to be scared to jump around. I'm like, "Great. I'm gonna be jumping around. I'd love to go on a run." And I would play a kind of weak in team. But now they're kind of taking up his team. I wouldn't travel a lot of youngsters in that at Renton. Yeah. I would try and get the job done. Phil, are you scared of Addie versus Martin? No, no. The Swansy subtext is there because he would have played with Swansy back in the day. And when I think Kenny Jackman was the manager before, the Swansy took off. Kenny Jackman. We're more in Kenny Jackman. Jackman playing Wolverine. Kenny Jackman. Kenny Jack. Kenny Jackman. We started in the movie called The Swansy Subtext. No, no, no, no. Fuck. You're on a fucking roll. Fuck. He turns out to front it. He turns out to front it. What's with Kenny Jackman? Yeah, it's what Kenny Jackman was manager. Oh, no. Oh, no, no. Yeah, but yeah, he was there with Lee Trondall and Leon Britton who played against the Steel Knights. That shows you where Leon Britton's done for himself. Yeah. Joe, I'd almost probably die at the time as well. Joe Allen. He would have been, yeah. Probably, I don't know if it was 10 or something, but Lee. What size was your man when he played for some reason? He was the enormous human being. He was. He was. He was like, he was himself and Trondall had a fucking rootless partnership up front at the time. They just couldn't defend to save their lives. Did he eat Trondall? Is that where Trondall is? What time is it? Yeah. Trondall is a big lad. Oh, yeah. That's what I said. As Moses. To be fair, Trondall was a big lad. Adeley Trondall, I can fend that. That's the player who played against it. Yeah. It's like, if I look at, I wonder how long, is this on television on Monday, isn't it? Yeah, we're watching it here. Erm. Are we? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, you're going to get, I'll wonder how many seconds into the game. Before we hear of the 87 Cup final, or whatever year for it. Well, you've already started it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Erm. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, Trondall, I'm sorry. You know, if the FA Cup can get you into the Champions League now, because we're going to the Europa League, get into the Champions League. So it's another route into the Champions League. It's a long route. It's a two season route. It's a two season route. What if it turns out? If you're out at the Champions League and you're missing out on the 50 million quid for just getting into the Champions League, then you have to consider all routes just anyway. By all means, necessary to get back into the Champions League. Right? And to get off, we only probably need to get to a final because the likelihood is he'll play against somebody who'll be in a Champions League spot anyway, to be guaranteed a spot in Europe. And we need to be in Europe. I don't care what language. You need to be in Europe. Even attract the players from Europe. You need to be in Europe. It's kind of attracting the players from the primary ship, but players still look at the European competitions and say they want to play in Europe above anything else. So I hope that we play a team full of, you know, half young team, half players who have to come back in. And if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out so be, it's not the end of the day. It's not the end of the day. Well, it is because of the evening. But it's not the end of the world if that happens. I've been always to see the likes of McLachlan and that getting a run. Right. I'm still confused as to how seriously Phil has taken it. How seriously will you take it, mate? I totally disagree with Phil. Oh, yeah. I don't care about the FA Cup at all. Oh, really? No, not at all. And attracting players in the UEFA Cup, I've never heard of a club attracting players in the UEFA Cup. The type of players we want, I think, the next level type of players that we should have gotten last summer. If it was up to me, like, I mean, as poor as we've been this season, everyone else has been really poor. If we look at the league table, we are actually five points behind fourth place. And, I mean, how close could we have been if we had have actually nicked that win against Arsenal? Probably just a point or two behind it. So I would focus all my energy towards that and I'm not saying I would totally disrespect the FA Cup. I'd still feel halfway decent team, but as Paul said, if we get knocked out in the third fourth fifth round, I wouldn't be that, or sorry, Molly said that. I wouldn't be too upset at all. I would just focus on the other ones. And you know what? If I'm not going to focus on the FA Cup, then we can say, well, listen, we've got less games. Maybe we can focus more on the FA Cup and look at that as our main rules, our ladder trap is the league. You're actually one more or less when I said that, like, what I'm saying to you is I don't see an issue in sending out a half team, you know, putting the kids, putting the things that go to women. They should be able to beat women. If they can't, they can't. So be it. You know what I mean? If you stick out of force 11 and you go out and you get it, there's an upset in the times that, you know, they turn you over by whatever happens there, it's worse on the effect from morale, et cetera. And if you send out a team that's full of lads that are looking to get back into the soil and also kids and the actual team as well because it's seen as a week in 11 that goes here. People forget about that quicker. You send out the force 11 and they get turned over. It's like straight away, the next headlines are all Liverpool were turned over by blah, blah, blah. And they had the full shot at 11 out and they're playing against the league to sort or whatever. And everyone's flat. Exactly. Exactly. Molly, before we go on to predictions, and I'm going to do that now in a minute, and there is a guy who's featured marginally last night and that's Balotelli. And I just want to talk about what you think his involvement over the next two games might be. Is he very much now on the bench and introduced that way? Basically in the middle of the match, I think I was saying to somebody there, it's basically he's done, isn't he? There's a feeling about it that his time might be done at the club. Am I right? Or how do you feel about that? I think he's done as well, Trevor, which has been on force because I really wish that Balotelli was going to kick on when he joined us, but I think he's done. I think he'd come to summer time and he'd be gone back to him now, I already know there's been a few sound boys with his agent getting on to Balotelli to see what he would be interested in taking him back. So I reckon he's done, he might get at his usage, kind of 10 minutes after bench here and there. And who knows? Maybe when storage comes back, he'll bring this out, he'll go back to the diamond. You know, he's still might, might prove that he's water placed with our team, but I just get feeling that he's done with us. Fair enough. I think the process of predictions with you, we'll look at Lester first. How do you see that going for us? Well, we're definitely going to concede, so we know that hands down, so we can see at least one. Yeah. So I'm going for a two-one win. Two-one Liverpool. Paul, what do you think, Lester? Three-one. Three-one Liverpool? Yeah. Okay. Mick? Yeah, I go for three-one Liverpool, too. Okay, and Phil. You wrecked it. He's going to come to me first. We won two games since you came to me first. That's what I'm saying. So, I would say, I think we keep a clean sheet. No. Scared someplace. No. Yeah. I don't want to have it. But a lover might be. So, we kept a clean sheet, a sack of a lover before. So, I will go, I think we win two-one. Actually, you're completely foolish yet because we changed it two different ways. Whatever. So it doesn't really matter. No. Superstition's a lot of bollocks as well. Really? Yeah, still. Okay. So, you're going... Yeah, right. I think it's Liverpool win as well. I'm hoping it is. I'm thinking... Because that's the nine points that we need to get over to Christmas from. Yeah. More than anything. More than anything. We just need to get to the nine points. Not the nine points that we needed to get back into contention for top four. Like everyone said, we're a long way off that. I still think... Look, I'd ignore top four. Why would we need... We still have a few of that clutch of games today. The patches. Yeah. The patches. Yeah, yeah. Very fag. Here's top four. We need to get 44 points from 57 to get to 72, which is more or less the points totally need to get 40. You don't think that would be dropped much lower this year? No. I think 66, 67 will get it. No. No. Everyone's shit though. Look, that's what I'm wondering. I'll put it this way. Everyone's having to sell shit, right? We need to get 14 wins and two draws from our last... 14 wins and two draws from our last 19 games or 15 wins to get 72, 73 points. Arsenal need 12 wins and three draws to get that. Now, if you're looking at 19 games and you're looking at Arsenal, you know, coming into the spell, 12 wins and three draws, that's Arsenal territory. But they're surely. It doesn't matter. They're in a position now where they're heading towards two points a game. They're, I think, around one, they're one win away from being on two points a game for their fourth half season total. What about them? And we're 10 points off. What about Brendan Rodgers strong second half of the season? Yeah, but they're only three points off. We're eight points off. What have you got, 28? You need to go toward the eight for the two points. You're still miles off. Yeah, yeah. I just personally think Arsenal are always the benchmark because you look at them and go, they're going to finish third and fourth. So to me, we're five points behind them. That's what I kind of look at. I say, well, that's the benchmark. We've got to keep it. If you want to catch Arsenal, like, and Arsenal have to get to 72 points, only need 12 wins and three draws. That's what I'm saying. And 12 wins, three draws, also gives them three losses. So, four losses, actually. That's very doable for them. That's very doable. Four losses, three draws, 12 wins. That's a doable run over 19 games. We have to do 14 wins, two draws, and that's allowed us four losses. Next three. Sorry, three losses. We can only afford to lose three games. We've lost six in the fourth half of the season. That's how hard breaking that top four is going to be now for us. I know everyone's saying it's only four points away, but when you look at that purely mathematical, it's a big, big ask. We need to go on the type of run that we had storage and Suarez bringing us through last year without the quality of storage and Suarez over that run that's there. Hopefully we can't look at it. Everyone obviously wants us to do it, but to get the nine points on the board over those three games will be sound points. That's why we must win against Leicester. Fuck Wimbledon. You know, just parrot that. Just as Phil says that. And by the way, next week on Matt would Phil, we'll be looking at the next clutch of games. Molly, can you give me a prediction for the Wimbledon match that Phil has just fucked off for me? Remarkably easily there. Wimbledon, how do you say that? I have to say, I want us to win. Go for Phil. Oh, are you going to go for a five-one? Phil, your shout for the Wimbledon match. I think it'll be a draw on. It'll be a replay. And who wins the replay, Phil? We'll worry about that in the preview of the replay. Fuck it out. Paul. Narrow Liverpool wins, maybe. Probably not. I can throw in nine goals. I go for an absolute dough and dog at two-one win. Two-one win. And I'll take it every day of the week. I think we might be going out in this competition, but I think we'll do well in the others. Okay, right. Postivity. I am Lou Chware. You are listening to Trippen's chat. Right. We have a couple of topics we want to talk about before we get into the ones suggested by listeners. Given the frenzy speculation on the back of Liverpool's record first half of the season, what does Brendan need to do? Do we think to guarantee his continued tenure at the club? It mightn't be popular among some people who are very eager to the fandom, and that's admirable. But it's a topic that's been raised, so we have to address it. What might push FSG to go for one of the many names that have been taught about? Do you think so? Well, I'd like to address, given that I've been on this and I'm on record saying that I wouldn't be that against seeing him go. I'd probably prefer to address how he saves his job because I think it's a fair way of looking at it because being on the other side of the fence now, I think he needs to sign a striker. He's going to score goals for us. More than anything. He needs to go to FSG and he needs to save him. If you still have faith in me and you still believe me, you need to give me the money to sign a striker. One that's going to score goals, one that's always a replica of storage, so that I can either use them and hand them, I can use them in various formations. But I know that if one is injured, I'm going to be able to rely on the other. And that's the force part. The second bit, whoever the look of matter, whoever the identified as a goalkeeper, they need to make sure that they have him in place for the game after the Wimbledon match. Because we can't keep going on. We can't keep going. And we didn't talk but we need to be honest because I don't think it was... Again, it's the same issues that you have with them. You know what I mean? What we need now is just to address those two positions for the second half of the season. Everything else you can park. You can live with, you can move players around, you can do everything. And we can see in that formation he has, we can get around a lot of our issues that we have, say, in the midfield and elsewhere in the pitch. But we need goals and we need somebody in goal that's going to improve that back for, or a back tree or whatever it's going to be. And we will get six months out of the new goalkeeper before Actaberg has a negative impact on them. Because that seems to be the case with the goalkeepers that we've had at this stage, right? So if we get them in now, we'll get right the way through to the summer. And hopefully we might see changes in the coach and staff, whatever, you know, to bring the level of coaching that's going on again. So for him to save his job, that's what would be going to FSG and saying, "We need to do this." And if you need me to sell somebody, or if you want to get rid of agent players who you have no intentions on signing a new contract early to fund this, then I'm fine by it. Because if you want Champions League football here next year, I need a striker, and I need a goalkeeper, and I need them done before the middle of January, not at the end of the January and not when the window is going to shut. Mick, would you be inclined to boil it down to those two simple issues in terms of Brendan being very much the manager going forward in the next season? Well, perhaps in the short term. I think from his part, he might need to adapt some flexibility. I think when you break down what Brendan Rodgers is, what he's best at, what he's poorest at, I think his record in the transfer market has been quite poor. So I don't know if it's not so much on the field, but from behind, I think if we don't get Champions League football, which, let's be honest, it's a distinct possibility. I think he'd have to show that he can be flexible. A restriction behind the scenes, perhaps a sporting director. Definitely a guy who can get the deals done, Enair certainly isn't getting that, but a really proper setup because he's really got a skeleton crew there. I think he needs better coaches. You guys have had a great laugh over Colin Pascal in the past, and rightly slow. He's not a top class number two. I think he needs to do that, and he definitely needs a defensive coach. He has to admit that that's not as strong as possibility. And let him do what he's best at, and what he's best at is coaching, coaching players and improving players. And I think if he focuses on that and shows that, I think what Phil's saying will save the job in the short term, but in the long term, I think he will have to agree to that, and I've seen no reason why he actually shouldn't. Yeah, Molly, I think you could add to that in terms of what you think Brendan needs to do to still be Liverpool manager in the seasons to come. Well, I think he's already started doing things like playing, staring up top, like resting, drought, like, you know, bringing a given kind of run of games and so on. So I think he's already started that actually while rolling what he needs to do and what he just needs to have. But there's no way if his team want to give him money in January, so if people are speaking to the striker, you know, coming in out of his rumours of, like, he's hitting it from Lee, I can't see that happening. You know, I would be very surprised if he didn't get in a gold keeper, but I, you know, how can that history turn around and give Brendan another 40, 50 million after giving him, the 110 this summer, and we've seen what we've bought, we've bought absolute rubbish. So, you know, going forward maybe in the summer, I think we're going to have to look at a mix of every sport and director, so we'll get these players in, so we'll get in these Sanchez and Costes, or whoever that we know we've looked at in the past and couldn't get in over, like, I think that's what we need. You know, I think Brendan deserves the chance, at least, to bring us into the summer, to see where we've finished, how we get out. You know why we, this thing about rubbish in the summer, right? Is it just the case that our highest profile sounds were sheer? I think that's fair, yeah. Because, like, we've waxed lyrical now about Mankayo Moreno, Chan, and Alana, to be fair, and Alana in terms of the improvement that he's shown last night, and even over the last couple of weeks, we've been praising Markovich. So, in reality, the two biggest profile sounds, the ones that were, you know, to cover the absences, going back, you know, to improve our defense, over them, disaster. But I'll tell you, to cover when storage was out, disaster. Effectively a disaster, yeah. It's, in fairness, Dave Thomas said it. Those two silence will hinge on whether Rodgers keeps his job or not. And I suppose it only has a point, like, if you're F.S.J. and you want to go out and sign somebody who's going to score your goals, you're going to have to spend an awful lot of money. Now, are you likely to trust the opinion of the committee as it stands, or Brendan, based on the fact that there's two high profile sounds, which were to sort these issues out into the summer? Didn't. Well, actually, it's looking like it's going to be a little tweak on that. It will be too, and it will be the lack of an attacker. But it's more mini-line now, who was the sign as well, than Lovren, because we've discovered a way of working around that. Yeah, but I suppose the only thing is that if you had an issue with the... If Lovren had a worked out, and a defense was a lot more subtle, and he had a broad leadership and a calmness and composure to the defense, it wouldn't have exposed mini-lay as much, right? And you may not have been talking about replacing a goalkeeper, because he wouldn't have had... He wouldn't have been as exposed in terms of what he was doing. It would have been one of those that we talked about. We'd be looking potentially maybe just as a forward, because we'd be a lot more solid at the back. And that didn't work out. And again, you're going down to the two that really needed to work for us. The two signants that really needed to work for us were Balotelli and Lovren. Yeah. And as much as myself and Dave disagree, you know, I do agree with him on that one. That's the bounds of 40 million. I know we talked about all the other money that we spent, but that's the bounds of 40 million. And if you're selling the Roy players a 40 million quid, you could have a completely different season going on at this moment in time. Say we had to spend 20 on lack of it in the summertime and brought them in, and say we had to sign a different centre back than Lovren. Yeah, for even half of humanity. Yeah. You know, that would have, you know, you could be looking now at a vastly different season to what's actually going on. But that's true. Point fit. That's where managers, those are jobs. They're outdoors cards. You know, it's that simple. And we can now look back up, or if only we signed any other thing to have for Lovren, or if only we signed lack of such to come in. But that's what it is. It's these cards are losing. We are still at the beginning of season that, okay, we're losing as far as this goes. But we are believed that because we brought in Lovren, do you want to concede less? Yeah. And, really, Teddy is going to score. Obviously, he's not going to get 30, but even we got 10, 12 a season. And we don't want to make up as far as this goes. That just hasn't worked out that way. I don't disagree. I think that's where his argument. We're going looking for money. We'll file down on FSG because they say, look, you know, they were your big profile signs. They haven't worked out. I'm not going to give you more. We can't afford to give you more money now because we're not sure your next hope high profile signs are going to work out. It's like when you see us linked with, say, 17 and 18-year-old strikers who are potentially, you think to yourself, that's more likely to happen in January than signing a Higuain or a Cavani or somebody. A Finnish product? Yeah. The Finnish product. The type of player that we need to sign. And then the issue is, will they come? The big issue now is because it has gone by the earlier Matt's lesson. Yes. Will a top-name center forward come in when he looks at the table and says, well, at the moment, they're behind Ursula and Spores. Oh, the short answer is there. Paul, if you were Brandon and you were making any years resolution, what would it be? Well, I'd want them to be to put Dan, Lauren, and Matt and Skirtle into a giant cannon and fire them into space. Or as far into space as he could get them. Maybe over the sea or something like that. So, you know, somewhere they're not coming back. You know, they were Megatron, actually. You know, animal transformers. What did they bring them to? What did they bring them to? They're not... Was it the Mariana Trench, I think they bring them to. And they pull them apart and they put them down there and they're like, you know, the pressure's supposed to keep them down there. That could probably keep Lauren away. I could never figure out Megatron. You know, when he converted into a gun. But he was just the right size for one of the other transformers to shoot. Are you talking about the cartoons now? Yeah. These are a bit before in my time, maybe. Yeah, but remember when he converted into... Oh, look at me, just 'cause I'm old. They didn't have cartoons when he was a kid. He fucking drew the cartoon. This is why Matt's been him. It's the info we need, but we're here. That was based on... Andy's one was worth a shot as well. What was Andy's one? He says that he wants a forfeit for every time Brendan mentions the words technical, outstanding. Well, give me some of your own techniques. A wonderful... Wonderful. Yeah. Post-match are pretty much press conferences. There's a forfeit. The group group. Yeah. I think he was able to suffer. I think he was a bit like the info machine. He was the arbiter of the forfeit. He put him out and slapped with a wet fish when he assumes he says the words. Yeah, that's a nice knock. Do you know what Joe... He's a wonderful technician. Sorry. Joe Brendan does... You know what that... Well, he's in the middle of talking. He's just the really kind of hard swallow that looks like it's hurting his throat and all of Jesus. That folks me off. Like when I left the torn off the interview, like when he goes... That's 'cause he's eating half his chapped lip. You know what it's peeling off? Yeah, it's like every Christmas, he turns it... His face just adds the flake. It's like taking wild paper off his lips. Fucking perfect. It's a controversial one coming in from James here. And he's wondering, it's a tea related question. And he's asking... Tea wrecks. Do you take the tea bag out before or after you add milk? And if so, why so? I think putting milk in on top of tea bag is animalistic behavior. It's like hot milk a week a bit. It's just fucking wrong. It's fucking wrong. I'm not having that. Weirdos have hot milk a week a bit. You don't drink coffee, you drink tea, do you? No, tea's showing me. Tea's showing me. Skip me with this question. No. I'm with you, Tre. I'm with you. The milk goes in after you take the tea bag out. That's true. You know, if you run the milk through the tea bag, that's just sick. It's cold milk going through the tea bag. It's cold milk going through the tea bag. Yeah. I maintain my position that tea's showing right. But if I did drink it, why would you pour milk onto the tea bag? And then you're dragging a big milky tea. What is the fact that there's nothing to be gained from it at all? It's not to be gained from it. Oh, fuck that. I'm with you. Molly, can you say that list for us? Oh, it's definitely big. Why should you take the tea bag out? As you said, why would you pour milk in top of the tea bag? That's disgusting. Right. Okay. I want you to bear with me here. There's a little rant here. I want you to bear with me. I'm going to read it out. There is a question coming up. Actually, it's at the start and I'll come back to it at the end. This is from Dark on Twitter. He says, basically this, what the fuck is bovril? And which prick talk? Let's make some crisps that taste like bovril. It basically tastes of arse. It's like a hot mug of arse. It's arse flavored water and people are drinking it. And no one bats an eyelid mate. No one. It's on sale in supermarkets. Arse flavored powder on shelves. I was offered a jug of it yesterday. They may as well have said, would you like a taste of my balloon knife? I'm not having it this day. Not anymore. It's gone on too long. I'm removing it from supermarkets from now on. And obviously, dustgones, some sort of falling down rant. It's a local asda. But, Molly, bovril, where do you stand on it as a drink? Just a separate standalone drink. I don't know what bovril is. Is that like marmite or something? Is it? It's basically like oxtail soup. Oh, I love oxtail soup. Yeah. (Laughter) Yeah, oxtail soup was lovely. No reason. It's so hard to eat with a bread and butter dipped in. Yeah, yeah. You're not bad. You're not bad. Bovril is one of those products. I don't know what it tastes like. Because it's one of those that you just look at on the shelf and you just go, nah. What do you consume, Paul? You don't know tea, no coffee, no bovril. What do you drink any hot drinks at all? Would you have a hot chocolate, would you? No. It's probably two. Yeah. Bovril takes me back. Bovril takes me back. What does bovril take you back? Yeah, does bovril in the house when I was growing up? Oh, yeah. Because it was like... That explains a lot. Yeah. (Laughter) It was a scoopy jar. It wasn't a sashé. Scoopy jar. Like, it was like a... It was like sort of a treacle-y type consistency that you put into the cup and you put... Oh, was it? Yeah. It's not powder. No. Doc is saying it's powder. It could be powder now. Maybe it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It was like marimade. It was like... Yeah. Yeah. It's a completely soft edge put in and up water and mix it up. Yeah. Oh, would you have a cup of that now? No. No. Not a fucking... When you were a young fell in the sixth... When you were a young fell in the sixth... When you were... (Laughter) You know, when you trust your parents to give you stuff... You do trust your parents. Up to the age of ten. Yeah. Then you don't trust them. Yeah. So, here's the acid test. Would you give your child a bovril? There we go. Yeah. Yeah. I want for a laugh, Neil. I'm going to picture them. Oh. I don't mind them when they're all talking about bovril. I'm like, I've never tasted the bovril or even smelled it, but... I can just look at... You know the little jar... The little jar of fucking eleven horrible stuff and I just know... You have a fair idea what it tastes like. I don't have to say ours, yes. (Laughter) This is one from Alex Minkers for you. If you could give yourself a cool nickname or maybe... Have you had any nicknames in the past you want to share with us? I've had a few nicknames, but... One recently jumps into mind. I don't know if any of you guys are fans of the darts. Oh, yeah. Go on. The world championships, that's been awesome. We were all talking about this last week, myself and the family, and a few friends. So, for people who don't know us, like Peter Tater, his nickname is... Or sorry, Phil Tater. It's Phil, the power tater. So, we were thinking, right, what would your entrance be? What would your nickname be? So, I came up with Mick, the love muscle, man. The love muscle. The love muscle. Excellent. I bring a... What? I bring a little bass. That's a boy, Paul. (Laughter) No, you bring in a little bass, and it's got love hearts, and you're throwing them out to the crowd. As you're doing your... As you're doing your intro. As you're doing your intro. What's the music? Oh, the music, that's a question. Yeah. You haven't told about this. Maybe girls without a love machine. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I don't even know what to do about that. And a little arrow into the crowd once it gets onto the stage. Get open the fucking trap door there, will you? Yeah, seriously. (Laughter) Release the hounds. (Laughter) Make sure it's the lotion. (Laughter) And you're not saying nicknames around the table before we move on to the next one? No. Okay, the... Mine was better now, but... What was your nickname? I was known as Elvis. Elvis? You are? Mm-hmm. Boy. If you try and say you look like Elvis, I'm going to slap you. But now I want to start the playing ball in, like, senior ball. I'd long hair and a huge big pair of locks, because I'm sort of like super grass mid-20s. (Laughter) Oh, Jesus, I need to see that. So when I was playing, I used to have to brush my hair back. So when I was there, I'd sweat back and a huge big pair of mama locks. Brilliant. Brilliant. Did you ever do karaoke, Phil? Yeah. What's your good karaoke song if you're going to do karaoke song? Suspicious mornin', Kerry wants a lot. You do Elvis. (Laughter) Fucking hell. Yeah. That toys that up mostly. Don't like the donkey. (Laughter) Christmas time. Okay. Next one is about New Year's Eve. It's a topical one. And there's a question from Leroy and Chuck, and there are variations on the team. Basically, Chuck was asking about what's your ideal or worst nightmare at New Year's Eve scenario. And Leroy was asking how are the crowd in here today going to spend New Year's Eve? I mean, New Year's Eve plans. Yeah, yeah. The worst scenario for New Year's Eve is Fucking New Year's Eve, full stop. Been the whole fucking lot of it. Yeah, not fun. Giggie. You won't be going out then. I think Par has a good explanation as to how you get out going out in New Year's Eve. Yeah, I'm just delighted now that I have a kid looking for it. I can't get a baby, sorry. Pro-creation. Yeah, like I used to go out for New Year's and it was only kind of the first kind of year that I had the kid not stayed in. I just went, "Jesus Christ, thank God I don't have to go out there anymore." You know where the bar is, like, here's six people away from the bar. Someone's fucking sweating all over your face. You're a cabver, cabver. Back sweat. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just a horrific experience. They get a horrific experience. All they're going to do is... Defend your happiness. Yeah, I'll stick it up your ass. Fuck off. Exactly. Fuck off. Yeah. So what will you do? I mean, here's the thing. What's the alternative? Do you just ignore its existence? Basically. Yeah. Go for it. That's terrible, man. No, it's not. What do you mean it's terrible? What? What are you doing? They're going to go to bed. The only New Year's Eve that I always have, it's class. It's really, really, really wild. I watch Jules Holland every fucking New Year's Eve on my couch. And it comes to New Year's Eve and I go, "Happy New Year, fuckers." And then I go to bed. I can see the misery in your eyes. Sorry. I watch Jules Holland every year. He says to the empty room, "Happy New Year, fuckers." [LAUGHTER] Back. Back. [LAUGHTER] Oh, yeah, you're sorry. OK, right. We're just leaving with that. St. Ned's Day. We finished with some admin, as we always do, and we start with our weekly shout for a kind host, Astral Park. Book your picture time at Astral Park.ie. On our website, LFCDayTripers.com, you can link directly to the show. And your day trippers tonight were Paul Brown, Moly, Mick Mann, Phil Casey, and myself, Trev Downey. So much happier than us. Yeah. At least we're open about our fucking misery. Look, someone's got a fucking trial and lift it here. OK, right. Christmas Eve is the great. New Year's Eve is just forest fucking fake happiness. Yeah. Lots of misery happens over New Year's. Just fuck off of it. Yeah, like, we're Irish. Like, we know how to make a session or not, and say how they say. Like, that's the biggest non-ending session ever. But at least that can be a bit of crime. A Welsh lad was enslaved and brought to this country, right? What do we do? Celebrate what happened. It sounds like what we've done with the hit promise. [LAUGHTER] Frank, it's a mixed worried about today's week. That's because I just locked the book. [LAUGHTER] I couldn't deal with that. That helmet. I just can't deal with that helmet. Do you ever hit the chin strap as well for all that? With the helmet as the number and half? [LAUGHTER] He's broken. You don't want to be signed up. And not only that, it's like, it's a bad helmet. It's not like a proper rugby helmet. It's like he's got a fucking a rugby helmet. With two fucking swimming rings stuck up the side of it. And a flight into a fucking maximum mushroom. Yeah, and he found it out as shared like as well. It's not even looked like there's nothing kind of, there's nothing. It's just like, you know, yeah. It's like he has that mushroom head from Mario. [LAUGHTER] Do you want to help with the mushroom head? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking Peter mushroom head, piss off. He's a happy new year when I got guaranteed. [LAUGHTER] So I heard from my sister's friend's cousin that Coles has the lowest prices of the season and had to save for myself. For real, the deals are so good. I got my kids' summer tees for $5.99. I cute swimsuit for myself for $17.99. And a shark vacuum for $1.99.99, which will be great after Sandy Beach days. I got Coles cash, too. And I got it all in less than an hour with free store pickup. So yeah, summer, I'm ready for you. Select Styles, ends May 23rd. Some exclusions apply. 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Happiness joy, a win, goals, movement, no sacred horses, swagger, goals, movement. It was a happy bunker (until we get to the new year chat) and we loved not having a moan for a change. Trev, Paul, Moley, Phil and ex pat home for the Christmas Anfield Index Australia man Mick Mahon (best of luck on wedding day 2 mate) wax lyrical about swansea and the upcoming league and cup games.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices