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MD 17 - Its all gone t*ts in

Right so we have to talk about the united game. So we did. Then we talked about Bournemouth and Arsenal. We couldnt really be arsed about slaughtering the manager cos we did it last week. We then had the craic answering your questions. We even witnessed Dave Thomas finally crack under the results of the season.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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16 Dec 2014
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Right so we have to talk about the united game. So we did. Then we talked about Bournemouth and Arsenal. We couldnt really be arsed about slaughtering the manager cos we did it last week. We then had the craic answering your questions. We even witnessed Dave Thomas finally crack under the results of the season. 

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I'm Trev Downey and joining me in the bunker tonight to try to mine some sense and some humor from recent events are Stephen Daly, Dave Thomas and Phil Casey. On the line, we have a debut for David Curry and a return for Lima Harry. Right, let's review Manchester United thriller, Paul Nill. There will inevitably as we go on going to be a surge of negative thoughts as we discussed the ugliness of Liverpool's league position and the latest result. But with that in mind, let's try to find some positivity in the mire of yesterday's defeat. The best place to start, I guess, is with Raheem Sterling. Yes, he missed some chances. Got a lot of elders for him, but he was lovely and he was a reminder a throwback to recent better days. Dave, would you agree with that summation? I personally don't. I'm going to be the beacon of hope here. I thought we played. We played pretty damn well. We didn't deserve to lose. I don't think Raheem Sterling was the only positive I thought. It's without a shadow of a doubt. The second best we played all season. Obviously, we got dicked. We lost for Nill to get that old Trafford. That's not good. But worryingly, we got dicked. We lost for Nill, but it was, in my opinion, one of the best we played all season. It's not just Raheem, but I think as a group, not defensively, but as a unit playing different formation. I thought we played well. We created more chances than usual, just to shame that we didn't have a starish there to put them away, and we had to rely on a 20-year-old like we have all seasons, to be honest. We may keep coming back to you just to say that exact sentence. My five-minute introverts. Be ready for that, Dave. Lee, what was your take on Sterling and maybe expand it out a little bit to what Dave was talking about there about some positive signs, at least in the way we played? There were some positive signs here and there. Not a great deal. Sterling definitely lost the high points. He showed actually a great, very good bit of fucking good movement in that full-forward role now playing the full-forward role for the first time. Well, Lambert went off the other night or whatever. He got us some really good spots. The thing is, too, that I had to marshal them well. I think it might have even been Phil on Twitter there. I think he put up a tweet about them saying that they were directing months, it was left-soid a lot. That's what ended up leading to a good few scuff that really weaker shots. That was it. They did marshal miles and stuff like that. I'm sorry, I can't really agree too much with Dave that I thought the performance overall was good. I thought it, it actually wasn't as bad as it was made out. I think the score line did sort of almost flatty in order in a way that they, as I said, they pounced on a lot of... They pounced on the errors very well. They had less fucking... They had probably less shots on targets and they didn't fucking have shot up. They had less shots on targets than they had with bookings. It was just the case of them being far more fucking ruthless than we could be and then the obvious fucking classic lead and keeper, superman, fucking performance from David de Heilich. Yeah, that was unfortunate. Steve O, what do you think about this idea of us having maybe moved forward a little bit despite the result in terms of a different playing style, no big lamppost up front? What do you think of that? I would say, no, I can't agree with it because that shouldn't be our way to play to start with. You know what I mean? Going to big lamppost up front. For me, that was just us going, doing anything we could in the last few games. I thought it was a poor enough performance. I think the unfortunate part is that we now see that as an improvement on what we've had to be dealt with in the last five, six, seven, eight weeks, three months for this day. It's just been an abject from day one nearly apart from Spurs and we keep on harping back to this game. You know, fuck it. Leicester City have had one or two good games this season and they're still bottom of the league. So we can't keep on going back to that match and saying just because storage will fit, you know, everything's going to be okay. I am one of those people that think when he's fit, the way we play football will be different because he will make those rooms in behind. He will allow the likes of the team, the likes of Sterling to play the game that they've become used to. However, I was poor all over the park. There was so many bad performances. Joe Allen and Steven Jarred to pick out two Brad Jones is another one, the, you know, trifecta of continuous at the back that was our back three. You know, okay, okay, you're going down a rabbit hole there. Let's come to Mr. Positivity. Dave, that was everybody. Back, back, back. Days back. Back from the valleys. Well, you know, I thought I'd wait until it got really bad. Well, look, it's really bad. Welcome back, Dave. Hark back to a point made by the two lads early early on. What did you think of the playing style, almost or anything to be gleaned for in terms of maybe less gloom going forward? Well, look, I mean, context is everything. I mean, you know, it's very difficult after going to all traffic and losing three nails to sit here and pretend that it was anything other than the dragon. It was they, they were ruthless. They, you know, I think as, as he said, they took advantage of our mistakes in a way that we're just not capable of doing right now. But I mean, we went to our traffic and, you know, created 18 chances nine on target, you know, United created 11 and at four on target. They scored three of them, you know, so I think that if you consider the game against Real Madrid, for example, we didn't have a shot on goal to the 67th minute, then you have to say that it's got better. Now, to Steve as point, we shouldn't be sitting here and saying that a good performance negates everything else because actually it wasn't a good performance. It was a good attack in performance in that we played well in the, you know, in the final third of the pitch and we created a lot of chances and a better striker or better strikers. Probably would have seen us in the game. 19 attempts, though, for apparently to their 11. Yeah, nine on target. So, you know, so you have to say that that's a good attack in performance, but, you know, the, you can't have a good attack in performance if your defense is gift in three goals. You know, you can't go to the tactical, tactical, tactical performance by man United, because they've offered up chances to everything they've played this season. You know, like a, honestly, on Saturday, I sat down here and I said, man United minus one is the, is the, is the better the weekend. And I backed it. And I did that because I said to myself, okay, I actually thought it would be a game that wouldn't see the hair having the game he had. You know what I mean? I, I know he's had some great performances recently, but I saw it to myself, there's going to be a few chances in this game and they're the ones with the strikers that are actually going to take the chances. Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt you know, I did a poor, I mean, and this will come on to the point that we talked about later. The difference that yesterday shows is having a great goalkeeping and a great strike and masks all else, right? And we don't have that. So the reality is, is the difference between us and name is that we both have poor defensive defenses. They're much more ruthless than we are. So whether it's a good defensive display, whether it's a good attack and play, I mean, I can only talk about what I felt like watching it, which is that I felt like we cut them apart a couple of times. I felt like we played pretty well. I think the stats can be misleading, but the stats suggest that we created enough chances. And we, we missed, you know, okay, I think there's a set does. I think there's a couple of set does that. Yeah, no, I agree with you. So for me, it's a good attack. We could have planned out the way most people thought, which would have been a high score in game. They could have gone either way. Yeah, I mean, I think the only thing I could say is I felt better about it. Ironically, it felt better about bits of it than I did about when we beat Leicester, if that makes sense, because I think we beat Leicester, doing everything that's against the way we do it. I just thought we played terribly against Leicester and we, they gifted us three goals and we win and that's a loss. Whereas yesterday, I felt like there was at least a little bit of us returning to some of what last season was about. We've got a long way to go and, and without, you know, some big changes, I still think that we're, we're going to struggle. But there were at least some things coming away from it where you go, okay, well, if he, you know, if he sticks with that bit, then he's just got this bit fixed rather than laughing. The main thing for me, I think, is, you know, all season we've had shit goalie, shit defense. We haven't created any chances. We haven't scored any goals. Everything's just been, it's just, you know, it's just been just pathetic. So, I mean, the one thing you can say in this game is we did create the chances. That's the one thing we've got, you know, to go forward with. I'm not saying we played fantastically. I mean, we were, we were shambolic, like everywhere on the pitch, like defensively. I don't know what the midfield was doing. They were, I think they're in the wrong stadium. But I've got no idea of what was going on. But the one glimmer of hope I can cling to is we actually create a chances and I know I listen to you guys all the time and it's always, you know, just from the games that I've seen, we've just been so toothless. We haven't created anything. But like Karina said on Monday Night Football, like he'd never seen a Liverpool team that had created so many chances at all traffic. So I think if we're going to try and be optimistic, I mean, that's the one thing that I've got to cling to, to be honest. Well, that's gone around in a nice loop and it ends up with you. So let's move on from that positivity crack and have a look at some of the less appealing aspects of it. The dropping assignment mini-lay was a big thing. Dave and the re-emergence of our narcoleptic bench snoozer, Brad Jones, talk to me about his display. You know, again, he's not a guy who's cupped a lot of flack. Was it warranted in your opinion? I don't even know, you know, I don't even know how to begin with it, to be honest. I mean, you know, we bought Mini-Lay in a couple of years ago. We've obviously scouted Mini-Lay. We've seen what his strengths are. We've Brendan's identified why we want a goalie that's good of his feet. We want a goalie that can spray the ball out that he's, you know, obviously a good shotstopper. How didn't the scouts identified that, you know, he couldn't control a bucket in like Apple, or something like anything? You know what I mean? How we spent all this time, like looking at goalkeepers and going, "Oh, yeah, Brendan's going, "No, that's the guy. Look at how good he is with his feet." Like, at Sanderson, he, you know, he's, he was never that guy. How have we, how have we ended up with him? If he's not the goalie that Brendan wanted when he came in, when we had the money spent, it's just, it's astronomical. And the fact that Brad Jones is our second, like, we're playing ballman later, and I know we'll go onto it, but Brad Jones wouldn't be second goalkeeper opponent, and it's just, it's just disgusting. The way he dived the wrong way for the goals, I mean, like, he didn't have anything to do apart from the ball out of the net three times, and that pretty much sums up his performance, to be honest. I just can't say any more about the goalkeeper's situation. That's, that's, that's pretty tidy. Yeah, I leave you. I think you want to add to the whole Brad Jones scenario. Like, is he the man there for, for, apparently, according to Brendan himself, Simon's dropped for what's the word for the indefinitely? So, how are you feeling about going into the next couple of games, born with an arsenal with, with Brad? Well, to be honest, man, like, you just said, you know, what kind of a low opinion I've got if men you lay in general? At the end of the day, it, both of them are going to fucking kill you. Yeah. So, like, let's, let's, I'm looking at it in context now as well. I don't think Brad Jones actually made a great deal of fucking mistakes. Like, he, for the first goal, fair enough, started down the wrong way, but Rooney places it very well because he was given about fucking 12 yards of space to do so. The second goal was offside for one. And, well, to be fair, the defense completely let him down, just let Matta ghost him behind. Like, he headed it in, like, near enough to about six yards out, like, and it was very little he was going to do there. But the third goal was the only time we really had a great, but Jones, because when the ball actually comes to Van Pearsy, Jones is inexplicably 15 yards for it, if the fucking right, then he should be. That was, that was my main gripe now. But like, as for, as for a general, the general we're going to play now through the game, he actually didn't make me any more nervous than mini-lay either with the ball at his feet or coming for crosses. I actually thought he performed relatively admirably in that regardless. Yeah. Yeah. But let's, like, honestly, let's be honest as well. I don't think that as much as I don't really, like, I didn't really care when, when all the change is made into that line up, the one between Brad Jones and mini-lay literally made very little difference to me because I consider them both on a very low level. I think that they're on their best day, both of them are of like a relegation, primarily excited keeper. Like, that's, that's the best that we give either of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the, the, the, the Jones decision on the mini-lay decision is, it's not about whether Jones is a bad goalkeeper. He's clearly probably not a bad goalkeeper. It's more, it's more the message it sends, which is the mini-lay isn't going to be our goalkeeper moving forward. It's a bit like when he brought Lucas back and stopped playing the same set in, mini-lay is not the goalkeeper. So I can live with Brad Jones for a, for a, you know, a couple of weeks if that means we go out in January and get a goalkeeper. I'm, I'm, look at the end of the day, like, the end of the day, whether you have Jones, or mini-lay and goal at the moment, that isn't going to change the fact that we have an absolutely abysmal defense that is going to put any keeper that you put between the stakes and a great deal of danger. Brad Jones is what he is. Steve, have you got any last words of mini-lay because I know Phil doesn't want to talk about this whole goalkeeping thing. So, we wouldn't move it on afterwards. Now, listen, you know, Brad Jones should never be a backup goalkeeper, never should have been. The fact that he's still there is, is sad as the fact that Luke is still placed with his club and Glenn Johnson starts every game and fucking Squirtle isn't fucking in some hole in a ditch somewhere. You know, like, there's many, many reasons. And, and the fact that he had Vorm as his number one when he was at Swansea and didn't bring him to us as a backup keeper, when that's clearly all Vorm was going to Spores for is baffling to me because he was a keeper who could play with the ball. I'm not saying he was brilliant. I'm not saying he was the answer to our first team goalkeeping situation, but Jeezy would have been a good backup to have there. And the fact that he's sitting, you know, on the bench at Spores because, you know, that's, that's for me, apart from the couple of keepers that Phil has suggested in the past from the Bundesliga, who I don't know, for me, looking at football, you know, saying the premiership on a regular basis, Hugo Lawrence is the keeper I would want us to have in terms of the way we are trying to play football. If I could have one keeper in the premiership, I know Dehaio and court war excellent, but an attainable keeper, I thought we could have actually, during the summer, got him, you know, if we'd really gone for it, I think the fact that we'd finished second a month to push on, that would have been the time to cut our losses with Mignalay and say he's not the keeper that is going to play the way we want to play football. Why don't we go and get him and put it to Spores? Phil, I know, I know you're not really here, but we should, we should try to involve you slightly. I'm not really here, I'm singing songs in my head. I got to spend the day doing mainly other songs. How's that working, I feel? Great crack. Yeah, what's your favourite software? What are you singing in your head right now? At the moment I'm singing Fernando. That's the name of the game. No, no, if I hit a chain, so... That's kind of sad. Yeah, yeah, no, but go and shoot a hole out of a gold. Have you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, brilliant. And Stan just gets stuck in your head at times. Just one of them all day, Abba. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I accidentally put it under Sporn and it just keeps going. Excellent. Yeah, that was the ex-native room. It was going for AC/DC because, Phil. Okay, yeah, yeah. It was such a good slayer. Megadeth. Megadeth, for their friend Abba. Abba just came up. A little no fact that Bjorn Ovelos and the lads wrote a few Megadeth songs. That is a little no fact. In fact, only you and we use the term "5" music. They don't even know it. Inspiration. Speaking of Megadeth, Dave. Oh, Trey. Hi, some happy with that. Can we have a look at our defensive trio of Lovren and Skirtland-Johnson. What were they even thinking? What was Brandon thinking in this trade? The back made up of that particular trio. Dave, that's you. Oh, was that me? Yes, ma'am. Well, you don't realise as he pointed, not realising you weren't in this room. It's the universal language of sign, Dave. Come on, work with me here. You lied over there out of a music. When you come on, it's just the same thing over and over again, isn't it? You see Lovren with Skirt, or when they play it as the two centabats, it's just the clam that you're wearing to happen. Nothing can come with that. When you add Glenjonsons to that, it's just the most mind-blowingly clusterfuck of just terrible defenders, isn't it? I mean, there's nowhere to go. I mean, I don't know why Sacco. I'm not a Sacco fan. I know Sacco's the optimum marmite when he comes to liberal fans, but Jesus Christ, he's better than Glenjonsons, isn't he? He's better than fucking mine's girl, and he's better than Lovren. Sacco's shit, in my opinion, and he's better than all three fans. It's just the same thing. Every game, every single thing, it's bugging me, now. Every single game, it's just defensive mistake, defensive mistake, defensive mistake. Every game, I can't think of one game where we haven't had a defensive mistake, and it's just something needs to change. I don't know where to start. I'm not a tact-issued, I'm not an assistant manager, Premier League club, but Jesus Christ. If he wants to save his job, if his job is under pressure, he just needs to sort out that defense, and I couldn't offer many suggestions, but don't play them three tickets. That's direct. Solid advice? Steve, what about that idea of the straight-back? Was there a logic to it that just simply didn't come true on the day? What do you think of the boys as wingbacks? I think you're losing the best of what either of them can probably give you there as wingbacks. I think Henderson, we really missed him in the middle of the park. If he tried to play Manquillo as a wingback and played Henderson in instead of Allen, I probably would have understood that more. But we lost his energy. He neither offered much defensively or in attack. No, I'm not knocking him here, because he's probably my favorite Liverpool player at the minute, to be perfectly honest with you, just for what you get from him all the time. We are in a crisis, so if you want to say in this kind of crisis, you need more of that than necessarily you do of the stairlings. I just think that the shape just didn't look great. I don't think Allen and Jared didn't seem to know what role they should be playing, and I know Dave will probably disagree with that. I'm not saying he was Jared as playing as a defensive mate. I don't know. I just couldn't put my finger on it. That made field of United's yesterday should have been there for the taken, to be honest with you. I think it should have been there for the taking. It was looking at them. When they lined up, I actually thought I started to get a little bit optimistic, and then realized we hadn't got a striker again. You know what I mean? I was just like, "Okay, you know what I mean?" I just didn't see where our goals came from. I think we did take them. I don't think we did over on the midfield. I think we were better than them going forward. I just didn't think we were very good defensively. In terms of the formation, I thought the formation worked in terms of attacking teams, but I don't think it worked in terms of defensive sets. When you say over-round them in midfield, like... But you said, did you feel they dominated Manchester United midfield yesterday? I thought it was pretty even contest. I thought we had the better of it. I don't think they dominated us. But that's my point. I think we could have and should have dominated that midfield. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm getting at. Personally, I think that's the selection thing, rather than the formation thing. I'm agreeing with you that. I think actually, if you played Jordan Henderson in Emory Chan in the two positions that you played Stephen Gerard and Alan, I think you got a lot more out there. I agree, because I think if you play 3-4-3 or whatever the hell they were playing yesterday, you don't need deep-lying midfielders, because the middle centre-back should be coming out to cover the base of the midfield. I think that's where we lost it yesterday, we played two midfielders there, who sit down on a fallback as one of our three centre-halves. Yeah, I completely agree. I think it was... I actually liked the three at the back. I think it... You went to it last season when we were struggling a little bit, and it did help, because it allowed Suarez and Sterling to get on the pitch together, which I think he was struggling with up until that point. I liked it. I just thought that we picked the wrong midfield. I just thought that we picked the wrong two midfielders. Before we move on to that, as a specific issue, Lee, will you just finish it to talk about that? What do you think was the thinking that Rodgers had behind three at the back with the two wingbacks? Was it direct... It's supposed to directly counterbalance or counter-measurety in either what was the thinking pilot? Oh, me? Well, I was actually surprised anything went wrong. You know, when you picked three of your most competent and reliable defenders and non-familiar formation, what was bound to go wrong? I didn't want to lose that, yeah. No, I think his thinking was, I think he was going to be expecting how to play... Well, expecting how to play with wingbacks to the personnel that they had available to themselves, as well. They didn't even play... They don't actually have actual fullbacks, like they were using Valencia and Jung as the wingbacks. So I think he nearly played with an expectation of them bombing down the sides to try and get out of some trying to knock in crosses. I think that the rationale behind that would have been now, if he played two wingbacks himself, that he would actually do our share of attacking down there, try and keep them pegged back a little bit and stop them generating attacks primarily through the wide areas. That would have been just what I thought he was trying to do there. I think that... The thing is, even as far as the midfield wouldn't have been the midfield that I picked either. The fact that... I actually thought it was probably in the center was maybe the area that we lost out the least. I think it was just the fact that our own defensive incompetence just gave them the opportunities that they needed to pounce on for one. The fact that we actually created chances from both the midfield and our wide areas, that certainly just what I wasn't able to finish off or to hey, it was completely equal to. I think in that sense, if you're looking right through the middle of the park, it was the top on the bottom that was where we lost the game, not in the center. Phil, what do you think about that? The midfield, as you've seen as we've moved on to an attitude, both are all three of the lads there who have kind of touched on that. Talk to me about that. Dave seems to feel that we emerged pretty much at least on a par, if not a little bit better than them. How do you feel the midfield area did? "Knowin' me, knowin' you." It's the move down to the next track. I think I'm going to go, "Fucking man, let's go, let's go." midfield. I said to you, look, I was going to struggle to talk and review because I could tell you go back to 50 minutes and 45 seconds last week to find out what it's hard about the midfield. It's the same problem solving. We're putting a fellow in, we're putting Jared in who's age, and you've got Alan in beside him, both in a play during the week. You're putting him into a two-mid field where they're going to have to go box the box in the formation that we're playing because they have to support when we're in attack. They also have to cover on the fence. Four scouts are a clear example. Alan goes out to cover the full-backs bot, which is what you'd want the midfielder in that position to do because they're there when your wingbacks bomb on, one of the midfielders comes out to cover. Jared's complete lack of a tactical awareness in that type of role and in that type of system because he stands with his back to the midfield in terms of what's going on. He doesn't get flat to the actual midfield to see when the runners are coming. Means that when Rooney starts to move, Coutinho is going with him, but Coutinho never tracks him. If we had one complaint in actual game time, I'd talk Coutinho, seeing that Gerard has his back to him, and unless there was a shout or something, but even still he should still go at him until you see the midfield are reacting across to cover the danger. That's my only gripe there was that he didn't follow with him because what it led to. Yeah. That led to Rooney getting a free run in, getting the shot away without being challenged at all. But again, you've got the issues there because it's tactically aware of the defence of midfield, and I'm not saying Luke, because I'm not saying anyone else just stands differently in that sort of setup to see what's going on behind him as it goes on. Moreno has to take some fault there as well, though, because he goes back to he goes back to left back, even though, Alan, I think he should have taken the spot in central midfield that Alan has taken. You have two players who have two players over on the left hand side. Anyway, when it's going on. And that's from say Moreno didn't need to go to that. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, but then again, we're talking about a system that they haven't used one. They've used one. I don't know what I'm saying is you're talking about a different set of players playing the system that they've used once with a different set of players as well at the time, right? And we haven't used to going into, we're going into a big game against you night where as I said to you last week, it was a must not lose as opposed to a must win, because you lose at your 10 points behind him. You're still only seven points behind him, you know what I mean? It's not it's not game over job with it. And I fully agree, what was said earlier in terms of how positively wise in terms of attack, it was the best that we've done since the sports game, because I thought, you know, the movement that we had up front, especially in the fourth half, created lots of chances for us. You know, people were giving out a bit about Italian times was passing off. But when he came on, he did everything as a forward that we've been asking them to do as a forward with the exception of scoring. He made the right ones off shoulders, you know, the chance that the guy pulls off an absolute whirly that goes on that he knocks on the crossbar. Yeah, the bar. Lovely bar for Markovitch to get him in, and he's making that. He's making that run that we've been crying out from to do where he was on the shoulder defender, he just put a pore of acceleration, got onto the handlebar, got the shot away. And it's just an unbelievable save from a goalkeeper who's just in top form at this moment in time. But that's not it. Look, you have to score one of those chances. I'm not, I'm not fully excused, but I'm saying, at least when he came on, he came on and he was trying to do the things that we've been crying out front to do as a center forward. You know, you know, he was getting into the box. He was getting a chance. He was getting on the ends of chances. Do I mean, say, but at least he was there was me, it was me that complained about his passing, you know, but, but my point there was he was, you could see he was actually exasperating. And I, and I was one that said, I told you should come on a half time. And I think he was, you know, a good option when we had him on there in the second half. I think there was positives to having him on there, even though he didn't get a goal. But I think he is frustrating the players around him with with his his choices when he when he's on the ball. Yeah, go back to your original player, just go back to the original point around the midfield, right? If you set up with a player who could barely walk come the come the 60 minutes into the second half, because of his age and his physique and the problems that you have with a player as to get older, you know, you can you don't have to, this isn't sort of a sudden shock to the system. This is what's been happening as, as, and this is why the discussion about dryer being rested and dryer being lifted out of the games, he was always going to play in this match. Now, does it not make it even more mental to have alienate or to marginalize handled in it? But I've said that like, Matt, we've tried to get him involved in the forward play that we're playing. There's a strong argument for it. If you're doing that formation, you put him in as the front man effect to be not known as as an out and out front man, but it's what I said last week, you put him up, 11 players are fast now and just tell him stay in there half of the pitch, because then what you can, you have legs down in the midfield, be it Henderson and Alan, even if you're not going to play on me channel, I'm just parking the chanting from on, but at least if you have Henderson and Alan in the midfield, you've got legs, they'll be able to get up and down the pitch and the big problem yesterday was why we were going on the ball when they broke through us. It was just a free run because the players couldn't, there was just too much to cover. I think yesterday was Steve and Jarrah's worst game that he's played. I can't even remember the last time he was, because he wasn't bad. The way he's being bad this season, which is that he's doing terrible things on the ball or he's getting caught out in his runs. He did nothing. He was just bypassed. He was just completely anonymous. And I remember Gary Neville doing an interview once where he was talking about the game he decided to retire and he said he watched the game back and he just got beat. All ends up, I think it was against Adam, I can't remember. Someone took him to his crampus or West Brom, whoever it was, and just took him to the cleaners. And that was the day he realized that he can't do it anymore. And this is Steve and Jarrah, we're two now down, away at Old Trafford. And he's playing in a system really where he shouldn't be as exposed as he's been in a lot of the games that we've asked him to play. And he wasn't just anonymous. He never did any shout-in. He never complained to the referee. He never made any type. They're going to just miss on the pitch. He looked defeated for me. After one nil, after one, you know, one nil down, his head dropped. So I just think, I just think, if Stephen Jarrah doesn't bring you that, if he can't get up for Old Trafford away, one nil down with a young team, with players, you know, with a 19 year old playing a left back with a 20 year old playing up front with a young, if he can't get up for that, then someone needs to explain to me what he's still asked to bring. Because I hear a lot of people, a lot of people are telling me that, I mean, you're in an interview with James P.S. saying, you know, it'd be a travesty of Stephen Jarrah left because he still has so much to offer on the play-in-sight. Well, for me, he has to start showing us that he's still got something to offer on the play-in-sight because otherwise, he's just an ambassador. Yeah. I think he's defensively like, we've got better players. If we put him in an attack in the field, we've got better players, I think. The only reason we're using Gerald, you know, we need him for the leadership. We need that commitment. We want him to, you know, rally the troops. If he was, he was, he wasn't doing anything yesterday. I mean, I don't really know who to blame because I think in terms of Gerald, what you want to do is you want to, you don't want to do what you do yesterday and go, go on Gerald, you know what to do. You're good tactically because he's not good tactically. He doesn't know when to track the man. What you want to do is you want to go, right, you are going, you'll go in as a four to nine. Every time they get the ball, you are clattering into them, you're getting smashed into them. That's what you're doing. Or you're going, all right, right, that's it. You're playing them as a DLP. You're playing back. You're going to get the ball. You're going to spray it around. You give him like a set task to do. And if you don't give him a set task yesterday happens, he doesn't know what to do. His head gets lost and he just gets embarrassed. Then to be honest with you, it was hard to see. Like, I was just trying to think of, I can't even think of a past that he made, to be honest. We pretty much played with 10, man. Dave, there's two guys who were, then there was a lot of onus on them, but given that Jared wasn't creating, a lot of onus on them in the first half, particularly to create were a continue on La Lana. Now, I know from conversations I was having with a few people, there was a lot of frustration about the way the two guys were playing. I think you could argue that La Lana was actually the unlucky one to come off because I don't know the continue. It was only better. Why was that, do you think? Is there any specific reason for it? I was racking my brains yesterday. I was in the same boat. I mean, La Lana was our brightest barking in the first half. The only thing I could think of, he was coming back from my injury, like he cracked his ribs or whatnot. And that's why he missed the previous game. And that's all I can think. You know, he had a bit of a problem with that. And that's why he's brought off. That's all I'm hoping about. Because if Brendan did decide to bring off the almost great brain in the first half, then he's just, he's lost a lot. Well, his actual quote, his actual quote, Dave, was with Adam, we just felt we needed something more through the middle. So I thought Adam did well, but I felt we needed some presence and to slightly adapt the system. And so that's why Mario comes in. He's lost it. I don't know what he's doing. Do you think maybe Coutinho stays on because he can actually offer a little bit more defensively? Like if you think about it last season, Coutinho did a huge amount of his work in terms of getting back, hurrying, harassing, harassing, getting back, hurrying, he did it. Well, no, he didn't. He didn't. Absolutely. You know, and that was first half. But what I'm saying is that's a momentary lapse in concentration, which, very enough, you can you can slate him for. But as a player, you're going to get more of that out of him than you are Adam Lelana in every 90 minutes of football, you'll be able to do them on the pitch. That's just in terms of how he's adapted as a player compared to Lelana. I didn't agree with the Lelana sub, but I didn't think about that. I don't think it was madness. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a role of the dice. You're going, you're feeling sorry for the fall. Yeah. You know, but I, I, I, Coutinho's biggest problem right now is that he's, he does the first 60% of what he's meant to do brilliantly, you know, beat a man in midfield or gets to the end of the ball, but his decision-making is just atrocious. Like, I mean, but he's missing the players that he needs. Absolutely. I was just going to say, like, I know, but we keep saying, right, that we, we keep saying that the magic can't keep saying that he hasn't got star-ridge. Well, I still think the players on the pitch can't keep saying that I haven't got star-ridge, like, if it's true, you've got to go, I got to do something different to it. But I think what the interest of it was that he tried to play sterling so many times around the corner, you know, that type of part, he was, but it's like everything. When you haven't been playing that ball as well, you're, you're not on it as the way you would be. As sharply as if you were playing in every week. Yeah. So it's, it's not as measured. It's not as quick. But sometimes it's like, don't play the killer pass, play the cast, pass before the killer pass. I don't, I don't, but we're also talking about Goy, who's 21. I agree. Look, I love Coutinho. And the one thing I'll say about Coutinho was, and I've seen him getting pelters as well, you know, saying, you know, he's close to, you know, being a very average player and all. At the same time, he will do something absolutely brilliant, right? With, with, when we're in controller games, we're at the pro, we're so reliant on 20 and 21 year olds and 19 year olds to be the leaders on the pitch because the senior players are letting us down week in, week out that that's, that's, that's, that's the, this is genuine match out. I would have played in Majora who played yesterday. That's what I would have played Markovich where he played. I would have played him in the two without him. Well, I tell you what, that's a, that's a fellow who I don't care whether he got sent off last week. In this limited amount of time that he has been on the pitch in the last two games has actually shown something, something. Lee, Lee, Lee, talk to me about, about Markovich's contribution to kind of bring us to an end on this. If you want to talk about his contribution against United, there was very, like to be honest, there was very little because he was limited immediately by the fucking position that Rogers decided to play. I mean, he seems to be playing it as a left wing back when he came on. Yeah, no, what happened? Like, but like, and I wouldn't mind, he gave it, he gave it as all from there. Like, he actually, he made the fucking runs forward. He didn't, he started kind of coming into the middle as he got into the final third of the pitch book. I thought like, he literally seems just to put him on a plate like, like in Moreno's place, like, and I was wondering what is going on here. Like, you're putting your responsibility on top of him that he absolutely doesn't need for one anyways. I said, because we're already fucking two, three, nailed down. Like, just the whole thing is a tack now. Like, yeah, it's literally just, like, you know, go for like throw the kitchen sink. Now, at this point, like I said, we've already conceded enough to lose just that going mad at front, but like, he seemed to keep, he seemed to actually have Mark image, like kind of shackled in a bleeding rigid left sided position, like, which I didn't understand at all. Yeah, yeah, which is not where most people envisage him. And what about to finish this off then, Dave, if you're on top of Dave Curry? What were you on top of Markovich? To be honest with you, I agree, Billy. I thought the last two games, you've only played like 17 minutes overall, but he was probably our third best player of the season, and he's only played 17 minutes, I think. I wanted him centrally. I would have played him wherever he was playing. It's just a bizarre one. Because you're in the middle of a bad run. What you want is you want, you want the youth, you want somebody that can go, you know what, I'm, you know, I'm not scared. He's come in like for a massive price. A lot of people will be weighing down. He's been dropped. He hasn't played many games that when he has played, he's thought, you know what, I'm just going to get the ball and I'm going to run at them. That's what you want. You're in the middle of a bad run. Get him on. Get him to run at defenders. Like what can go wrong? He's good at running at defenders. He's skillful. I mean, I just, I don't understand what you've got to lose by getting this kid who's, you know, who's just not scared of taking everything on his shoulders. He seems to love it. Yeah, what can go wrong? I like that. You know, look, I've been, as I said, I would rather be proved wrong, Markovich, don't be proved right. I'd rather be proved wrong, and everything would be proved right and undergloomy stuff. And as I said to you, what I liked, what I've liked in the last two games is that the very thing that I was really critical about him was that he was scared to do stuff. He started to now show what he can do. And he's also shown the ability to do it as well. Has he made me just hard to himself fuck at a market in a game by not doing the dodgy stuff? So I'm able to give it a go and see if it looks like he's around the way to do it. Yeah, he looks bigger. He looks like he's bulked up a little bit. Then he probably has thought, fuck it. I'm not going to game as it is. When I go on the pitch, I'm going to take the piss for a few minutes. But you know, and it goes back to the point that I made a couple of minutes ago as well. We're going to work here. And now we're thinking to say, well, look, he's prepared to put it out down. He's prepared to do something that, again, the senior players aren't doing. So we have to put him in. No problem. But if you're going to, if you're going to, if your young players are outshining and out leading the older players, you put them all. Yeah, play them all. And that brings us pretty much still looking forward to next match. So we'll wrap it up there, Chapsi. Right. Let's have a look forward to the games that are coming up because we're all so optimistic and upbeat. And let's look at Bournemouth Liverpool, Liverpool Arsenal. We'll start with the first game. What do we think we're going to see on the back of that performance? Do we think it's going to be a continuation of that attack? The idea of a lot of fluid players up front? Or do we see a more sort of a reversion to a more kind of stereotypical setup that we've had for the main part of the scene? Dave Thomas, what do you think? To balloe or not to balloe? Well, for me, I would stick with what we would. I'd stick with pretty much the formation and the thing that we tried to do against you and I did. But I've got a funny feeling he might rest Sterling. He said in his post-match interview that Sterling's going to need a rest. And I've got a funny feeling he might rest him on Tuesday, which means that Mark, which might come in, but I think probably more likely balloting what come in. So I think he might stick with the three. I hope he sticks with the three at the back. I hope he begins to say, look, this is the system we're going to play for a little while, let it bend in. Don't think it's anything to be gained by continuously chopping and changing the system at least. So let's stick with the same tactics, get the players to play a particular way. So personally, I'd play three at the back and I would probably bring balloting and I think he'll rest in it. And would you like to say, again, I'm going a little bit to one side here, but you're telling me keeping that same shape, would that be depending upon taking hand away there and getting back into the middle where he's more effective? Yeah, I worry about who would play right wingback. I'm not sure Mike here is good enough in the final third to play wingback. So I would worry a little bit about playing him there. So that would be my only theory for maybe keeping Henderson as a wingback, because I'm just not sure Mike here can do that. OK, we've kind of gone a little bit off-topic there. So back to the strikers and the attack against Bobby. What do you think it looks like? Listen, I genuinely can't even begin to think what he might do. And that's not me being bad towards him, but I think it's just so hard to guess at the moment. We could have Ricky Lambert back in, you know what I mean, if he's fit. But like, for me, I would love to see us going back to four, three, three, and I'd love to see some wholesale changes. You know what I mean, I would love to see Toure and Sacco as your two center halves. I'd love to see Chan Henderson and Coutinho in the middle. And then I'd like to actually see Markovich, or even if it's not Coutinho, if it's Lilana, you know what I mean, whoever, because Lilana has just played 45 rather than 90. So you put Lilana into that three with Chan and Hendo. And I'd like to see Sterling and Markovich either side of Balotelli, you know what I mean? And actually have a look at that. I think there's balance to that team. I think you've got both of those two wide forwards able to come and offer you something in the box. I think what we saw from Balotelli the other day was a proper focal point. And I think, listen, if we want him to succeed, he has to get a run of games. Yeah. Okay. And you know, Rodgers has gone and given Lambert 360 minutes of consecutive football. Now, in order for us to actually make a call on whether Balotelli is going to be good enough or not to stay at this football club, I think he has to get that run of games again. Okay. And at that point, then make the decision, say, okay, listen, we're got four games, mate. You know what I mean? Like, you don't even have to tell him that, but you have to trust that even if he doesn't have the best 70 or 80 minutes and you give him the hook and again, you start him again. You know what I mean? Maybe that's maybe that's a fool's logic. I don't know. But I think this game against Bournemouth could be the game to start that. Dude, I think he's had that, though. I mean, I know what you're saying, but like, for me, he played 10 games in a row, didn't score, you know, didn't score in the league prior to his injury. Did you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. But like, all I can think of is the way we were like the setup, the setup that we had. And if he wasn't, if he were like, I actually think nearly Balotelli got himself in better positions to score goals than what Lambert did, even though Lambert got a couple of goals. If that makes any sense, no, okay. Like, Balotelli was missing chances that really he as a striker shouldn't have missed or shouldn't have fluffed. And whatever that reason is, he still has, I think, a better tactical brain and a better natural finisher's brain than what Ricky Lambert has. Yeah, no, I agree. I play Balotelli ahead of Lambert. Yeah. And I would like to see Markovich and Sterling either side of that. Markovich and Sterling, so to go back to something Dave said, and actually, I'll bring you in this field. If you're going to rest, Rahim Sterling, and like, let's face it, we're heavily reliant on the kid now. Is this the game to take him out? Yeah. And if you do, is it Markovich and Lalanar, who would you like to see other side of Balotelli? Take it, you're going to start Balotelli. Yeah, I was messing around thinking what I'd like to see tomorrow night. And to be honest with you, like given that we've some of the kid, I think the Arsenal game, I'd say this is a most-wing game of the weekend to save our season. I genuinely think if we lose to Arsenal, you know, already top four is very unlikely. But if we lose to Arsenal, it's not going to happen, right? Because there'll be 17 games in, we would potentially eight points off top four at that stage. Maybe 14 off towards the rest of the night. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, have you have spores in a filler way, aren't they? Yeah, you've got you've got spores and you've got spores. They're also ahead of you six or eight points at that stage. So, you know, that's why because of what's happened against, you know, we have to be there some at the weekend. So, for me, I changed the team up. I'd look to put some parents in that I'd start against Arsenal. So, I was looking at putting Sacco and Torre back in as centre backs, because that's who I'd start against Arsenal at the weekend. And then I was going to, I'd play Brad Smith at left full Manquay, right full. And because I think I bring Manquay back in because he's starting against Arsenal again. But I want to get my game under the belt before we go. Then, my midfielders, Chandler Henderson, I played Jordan Williams behind him and tell him, to play in there as a tree. And then up top, I was going to start Ojo, Balotelli and Markovich and playing Markovich behind Ojo and Balotelli. And just look to use Ojo's pace beside Balotelli. Almost the way Sterling is. You know, they've been raving about him. He's been having a brilliant season for the young team. Let's, you know, dis... That's a good show. I wasn't, in my mind, I'm thinking, how do we try and get the ones that are... With the first thing squad, yeah, yeah. But actually, it's a good show. Why shouldn't, in this cup, a couple of the younger lads, get it wrong? Especially the way the season's gone. Especially to sound like something. There's a very few there justifying a jersey. Do you know what I'm saying? Many could be sat in that dressing room saying that's for the ridiculous game that I had in it. Half the reason I'm thinking of it, because when I'm looking at those kids, they're in a team that's actually playing very well at the moment and in an attacking sense. They're scoring lots of goals. They're used to scoring goals. And they will come in at least what they won't win, is they won't come in with a fear that they're not going to be able to play offensively. And they're playing against the championship side. So the other part of this is that if we're looking to loan out these kids in January or something like that, or even into next season, it's a good market to see how far they've developed. And I know it's a quarter-filing of a cup, but it's not the semi-filing. Do you know what I mean? You're not... You're not that warm game. You're not risking that chance in the fun. That, I know, Joe, has to be standing there thinking, "I can't be much worse than these folks, too." You know what I mean? He's got to be looking at Lambert. I actually think there's a lot of players in that in the 19 side who should must be looking at that first team and going, "Come on." I mean, Sinclair, I think if you're not playing Ballotelli, let's say Ballotelli, because he has just come back from an injury. Let's say he comes to two games in four days. I think it's worth looking at drums in Clare up front and saying, "Okay, well, let's see what's going on." Yeah, you're not going to play Sinclair and Ojo as I was lucky. But no, you can't... My thinking was to put in... You're sort of mixing in four kids. Actually, three rear ones, but my key was only 19 as well when it comes down to it. But I'm looking at... You're getting Mark of its game time and you're getting him game time into position where he's meant to be at his best, which is playing as, say, as a 10 in behind what's going on. And he can drift wide to the left. He can drift wide to the right. Similar, like, I know he was playing left wing back against you, but when he's drifting field, he seemed to have more impact in terms of what the matches he's able to carry the ball. He seems to have a bit of vision in terms of what it is. And fair play to him for doing it, because that's what I'm saying. He's starting to show what it is. Those games he's showing a bit of danger about. Yeah. You can see the opposition afraid to actually, you know, make that lunge in Adam. That's what you want. You're on an offer with me. The other thing that people ask me about would not start Rosseter. I think I'm looking at a midfield of Williams, Henderson, and Chan, right? Physically, that's a powerful midfield. And the one thing the championship side is going to bring to it is physicality and I'm not going to be afraid to get stuck into it. So I think they can, a little more so than Rosseter. I still think physically, Rosseter has a bit to develop in terms of into his natural frame. When you look at Williams, the fell is huge. I mean, and he didn't look like he had any issue in the games that he's played in the League of Souls. I agree. I mean, Williams is probably a little further forward physically. Just back on Markovich. I think that what's been interesting about him in the last two games is that, you know, and we've talked a lot about him on this pod. And he's taken a lot of stick. He's taken a lot of stick. He's taken a well to be fair. He's never said anything to us. He's never said anything with what he's been on. But I think he's never said anything to me. No, that anything. Just sits there. But in the last two games, he shows for me that he has piss, which we questioned, you know, we was. Yeah, we wonder where it was. He's shown if you show technique, you know, his close control. And he's also shown he's got an eye for a pass. So for me, that pass was exceptional. That's a great pass, right? So for me, that's three big question marks that he's had over him. Okay, all, all be it in very small doses. But I think, you know, you're going, yeah, I'd like to see a little bit more of that. So yeah, the only thing I disagree, where you want to see it? Well, yeah, I'd play Moreno. I think Moreno needs another game. Yeah, because I tell you, I think that I think Moreno looks shell shocked. Absolutely. So shell shocked. He looks like he's going, what the fuck have I signed up for you? You know what? The gas thing is, though, he's looked that way playing alongside either Lovren or whoever's been there, right? And either even with Tori, because Tori is not a natural left center back, right? That's what I'm saying. You bring Saco back in. His best games have come when he's been alongside Saco. You know what I mean? And I'm saying, let's put Saco back in. Why not? Because the Lovren is just, he's biblical to the stage. Look at the ball. Yeah. Daniel Floyd. Yeah, but you got to wonder what the underlying issue is there with Saco. Yeah. I can't believe it's down to a physical problem. Well, I think now he's back and forth, right? And I think he was in the, he was in the, not the match day squabble. He was in the squad for both, but he was on the bench for a battle. He was in the, he was in the, I mean, we don't know whether it's an attitude thing, right? Of course, that's the reality. That's what I'm saying, you got to feel if it's not an attitude pro, if there's not a problem between player and manager, you got to feel that tomorrow night is a game where he should be getting. Oh, it's so happening. He should play tomorrow. But let's reverse this. Lovren shouldn't play, right? Let's be clear on that. So then you'll go in, okay, one who gets a game and he's either calling it a youngster up to play, like Lloyd Jones or something like that, right? Which I think is a, is a massive call against the championship. So I do, he's got to play Saco. You know, I think Skirtle will play. I think you'll play Skirtle. What do you think, what do you think it's in the partnership of Lovren and, and Saco does that Skirtle and Saco? I think Skirtle and Saco, are Skirtle and Lovren. Skirtle and Lovren are the worst center by parenting. They remind me a worst version of what Karago and Skirtle was when Skirtle, you just have to play on the left hand side of the fence. It looks so uncomfortable. Now they both look as uncomfortable as Skirtle used to on his own. For me, you know what I mean? For me, I said earlier, I, I, you know, I feel like I'm the last guy off the Lovren bus, but, you know, like, turn off the lights. He has been there. He is a, he is a better player than he's showing. I actually agree with that. So you've got to say, oh, he has to be. But in the way that we want to play, we're never going to play with two defensive midfield players. We're never going to play with full backs as set. We're never going to, you know, are we ever going to, is he ever going to be able to do it in this system? I thought he would be able to, because I thought he's proactive and good with the ball. So for me, I feel like even now, after this point, you're looking at him going, it's never going to work for him. It's never going to work for him in this system. Like, and I think he's a better player. I think he'd want to be a good player. Can I bring us back down for a second? And this isn't, because me and you have had our fair share of back and forths on the summer transfer window. And this isn't a day get you. But do you think that there possibly is, do you think that possibly, okay, you believe the players are better than what they are showing now? Okay. And I actually agree with you on that. I'm pissed off by the players we signed. I stand over that and probably always will. But do you think that we bought the wrong players for the system that we're trying to play? Like what we were trying to do was improve on the areas that we saw weaknesses last year. Okay. And that's all take the 13 wins or whatever was on the bounce out of it for a minute, because that was freakish. Okay. So let's look at the season as a whole, when we did have our points earlier in the year, when things weren't going great, we were all able to spot things that could be improved. Yeah. And I just don't think with the players that we've signed, we've necessarily improved those areas. But probably apart from left back in even a Moreno look and shell shots, I still think... That's the point of asking the question if you've got to let them answer when you go to answer for fuck's sake. Oh, no, no, I just wanted them to be here. It's a kind of half. I just wanted the three. I just wanted the four of them on a line. What do you think, Dave? And that's how we're saying. I said back in the chance of this. I don't think you can... Do you want me to roll back to what the question was? I would imagine that the beginning of the transfer window, the manager is sitting down going, here's what the window looks like for me, right? And if all of this happens, here's what the team is going to look like, right? And I think what's clear from the transfer window is some of that got executed and some of that got delivered and some of that didn't. What isn't known is how much the non-delivery of things, like a better goalkeeper or like another or like a better striker or whatever that's asking for. Are we getting towards no knowns and unknowns? No, no, I'm saying that you're asking me, do I think we signed the wrong players? The form tells you that we signed bad, the wrong players for our system. But what I'm saying is, I don't think that we, the decision of individual signers can be judged by themselves. I'm sure there was a plan that said we're going to try and replicate some of what we did last year. But it's not a part that Arthur says, right? When a team is so shit, basically, right, as it is at this moment in time... When it's gone tits in. When it's gone completely tits in and there's a dose of biblical abode of floating around the side of the moment, right? Is it not... It doesn't occur for like in a game like this, just put different people into the team. And I'm talking completely different ones that aren't around the squad, you know, that are going to come in. But I agree. I think that's just in positions. And I'm not saying in key positions. So what I'm saying to is, if you start by the telly, you're able to start Ojo because you've got to recognize center forward up there. So all the focus isn't going to be on Ojo, right? If you play Williams with Chan and Henderson inside, there's going to be as much focus on how Chan and Henderson play as a unit as say Williams is, and Williams are... Thanks for the pressure off those. You've got Mark of a choose, Aaron has to start now to come in and people are looking at that. It's hard to take... What happens with an awful lot of the kids when they come into it is the glare is so heavily on them because they're coming into a team. You know, there's a lot of them coming at one. If you put two or three in against Parliament on Wednesday, it's not... There's not as much pressure on them because you've got a lot of players coming in who are making stakes for a claim. A lot of the four team players, and also freshen up what's going on. Listen, I agree with you. I've said to you before that if I was brand the Rogers, given the way the season's gone, I wouldn't start the player old and the Jordan Men's for the rest of the season. That would be my philosophy. I would go, "Do you know what? Fuck it. Let's say we're seven. Let's say we're never going to fit. We're not going to get relegated." So let's say we're not, but Champions League is going to be tough. So I would say kids have got me where I've got last season. The majority of his team was a very young team punctuated with some very high quality senior players, which we'll still have with the likes of Sturridge. So if it was me, I mean, of course, Sacco would play or of course, Mankey would play every game. Of course, Moreno would play, you know. But the risk of that, and just to be there was an advocate is, I think if you take Moreno, you talk about the glare, I think that is the risk of bringing in younger players. I think that's why he has gone to senior players. The we all hate them. He's making selections that we don't agree with. I think if you look at Moreno, even lovering to a degree, look at what happens when you get put on under that spotlight and add a massive club like Liverpool, and they're crumbling in front of our eyes. So that's the risk of bringing someone in. I would still do it. I wouldn't play a player all than a Jordan Henson. I suppose that's what I'd say. One last shot on this Bournemouth game to harp back to something you said, Filler, about not bringing people in key positions. What about the kid Fulton in goals? No, no, no, it's not too much of a stretch. No, I wouldn't even play Brad Jones. I'm not going to be straight up at you, right? And I didn't get involved. Brad Jones is not good enough to be force choice goalkeeper for Liverpool, right? If Mini-Lay wasn't going through a crisis of confidence, then he shouldn't even be a consideration. The fact that a fella who was a Roy Hudgsen sign-in is now starting to go for us, when he couldn't even get into Roy Hudgsen's team at the time, right? He was the soapkeeper for Barrow, wasn't he? Well, he played a bit. We're talking about a fella, and I know it's harsh on him and everything with that, but he's just not good enough for a club of Liverpool, so it's and also the aims that the club has. And as I was saying to you before we started recording, I looked at the German game at the weekend, and the three goalkeepers they were able to call on, and they were down to their tour choice. Their tour choice goalkeeper was Timo Hildebrand. Jesus. This is a fella who was forced choice with Valencia no more than seven years ago. You know what I mean? And that was on track, that wasn't one of the topsoids in Germany. But hasn't the manager gone and put himself out in the limna by saying what he said about Minneapolis? Absolutely, absolutely. And he has to play. He's going to play Brad Jones now, he's going to have to play him against Arsenal. And the shameful thing is, and I said it to you, and I said it to the lads when we were talking about the team selection on Saturday afternoon, was that what we've done now is we've ended Simon Minuli's Liverpool career. The fact, yeah. And when he comes back in, he is constantly waiting to be dropped. Yeah. It's the last six months of Pepe Reyna playing for us. And what I said to Dave Thomas was, and this is a genuine shout, if we do not have a new goalkeeper signed at 9 a.m. on January the 4th, then the club have failed. The fans, and they've also failed, the manager, they failed whoever it is, right? Because that is a complete, what's the word I'm looking for? Their election of duties. Their election of duties. Because you cannot go and remove the goalkeeper that you signed as your force choice. Put a lad in, who's a best, a best, four choice goalkeeper at a Klobearsois, right? And not have your replacement lined up if you think that your force choice goalkeeper has gone that bad. But this is, this is, this is the gamble Rogers has done, right? That he's saying to the club exactly what you're saying there right now, right? He's saying that... Go and get me someone. Go and get me a goalkeeper. Because I'm not playing this guy that you got me when we were seventh. Because I want, hang on a minute. Because I want to be higher than seventh, and this guy isn't good enough. And I've given him two years, and he's not good enough. So I'm going to play this, you know, guy who's in on bring your daddy to work day. And I'm going to put him in goal. And unless you get me a goalkeeper in January, this is the guy. Because I'm not going to play me nearly. So this is what, this is what, it's not about playing Brad Jones. It's about not playing me nearly. That's the decision he's made. And I'm hoping, if that is the case, as I said, our new goalkeeper arrives on the 4th of January at 9am. But if it's been made very clear to Brendan Rodgers that he is not signing a single player in January, which has been, you know, just been enough talking in the paper saying it's going to be very quiet January in the whole lot, right? And he is now playing politics to try force a signing, right? Then that is a complete dereliction of duties as a manager. I'm a manager, and I've said this since the 2nd of September, relaying to a striker that if we don't have one signed within the first three or four days of January, it's an absolute disgrace. Because what will happen is, like it always does with our club, we'll have another fucking situation like we had with the Ukrainian. What's the Janelenko? Was it a kind of play? Oh, yeah, sorry, kind of. Yeah, where the fuck did they get Janelenko from? I don't know, but it's good. Janelenko is an entrepreneur. Janelenko is an entrepreneur. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just was getting confused. But it's a similar situation to that. Transfer deadline day, do we get it done? Do we give them the extra two whispers and 50p that they want? How do we get back on the plane? You know, but in all seriousness, it feels right. With the keeper, with the striker. If we don't have those players and Roger should know on his mind, not get me a goalkeeper. I don't agree with that one bit. Don't go get me a goalkeeper. The last one you got me isn't able to perform the duties I need from my goalkeeper. So here's three goalkeepers that I believe can do the job. Now it's back fucking on him. He's now got the responsibility and taking the responsibility to say, "That's the guy I want. If he works out, I'll take the plaudits. If it doesn't work out, I'll take the stick." But he's my son. Which goes back to the chat we had earlier. Irrespective of whatever line up we have, Dave against Bournemouth. There's an interesting thing that Phil mentioned earlier on, a bit more swing games. Is this a must-win game for you? Eddie Howe's team are apparently very, very impressive at the moment. Sitting up on top of the championship, scoring lots of goals. Does that influence the amount of kids that we introduce into this, the fact that it's a thing that we could possibly win this season? Oh, absolutely. I mean, I make no bones about it. Being top of the championship is like being 12th in the premiership, which is exactly where we are right now. So we're playing a team that's a very good team. They're going to be full of confidence. They're going to be up for it because we're Liverpool. We're travelling to them. They're the top scorers in the entire four divisions of the football league. So they're going to give us a very, very good game. I mean, we're going to, but to your point earlier and to Phil's point, listen, we've won two out of the last 10 games. Every game we play now is a must-win game. There is no game we're going to play in the next three months. There isn't going to be a must-win. And the reality is we're losing too many must-win games. So we're not losing in the sense of we're not getting what we want of it. Like Baal was a must-win game. United's a must-win game. Arsenal's a must-win game. And this is a must-win game because if we lose, this is another tournament that we're out of. And I think that at the beginning of the season, Rodgers was pretty explicit in saying his goals from FSD were top four finish. Okay, so we're seven points off that. Last 16 of the Champions League, we didn't achieve that. And to win a trophy. So if we go out against Bournemouth, we're down to the FA Cup to potentially do that. So yes, this is a must-win game. This is going to be a really, really tough game for us. Yeah, Steve, I suppose we could use that to segue into looking forward to Arsenal, which is a massive game at any stage of the season. Like I said, it's difficult to predict who's going to start because we don't know what way things are going to go tomorrow. Like, but look, talk to me a little bit about that Arsenal game. The differential, the swing and the points could be massive. But I think we can close to two on them or the win, if that's correct. Whereas they open up a massive gap. Another far too big of a gap if we lose. And you know, it's stretch ahead of us as well and third. So is it the pivotal match of the season so far for us? Yeah, so far, absolutely. And is there any coming back from a defeat? Yeah, there is. Well, there is because, as we showed last season, and we are far behind where we were at this stage last season, making no bones about that. But listen, three, four, five wins on the bounce, pulls you right back in on other teams. Because as we've seen, apart from Man United and possibly Chelsea, you know, no one else has put that string of wins together. Okay, we're forgetting about Chelsea and Man City. So really we're fighting it out for two spots. Exactly. Let's be realistic about this. Do I see United continuing that run of straight wins? Maybe for another couple of weeks? Do I see them bashing 15 wins in a row in? Absolutely not. So that doesn't bring them back into title contention. I think they can be caught. But I don't see it starting this weekend. Right, but we need to start with catching Arsenal first. And I don't see it happen this weekend. Okay, Phil, if some of the kids that you suggested come in and play out their skins, do they stand the chance of a game against Arsenal? No, no, no. Listen, I said the reason I do it was to freshen up and maybe give a few kicks up the Arsenal and a whole lot to get the team started going again. And I think the team will more or less pick itself for Arsenal. Whether we like it or not. I don't think like Gerard's going to start one way. You know what I mean? Staring will be back in the team as well. Thankfully, there's no Johnson team, so we'll get Michaelo against Arsenal. I didn't see today what is actually wrong when I'm at the assessment. Look, then, Johnson. I mean, what happened to him yesterday? No, what's wrong with him? Four months couldn't feel what's wrong with him, but... No, I'm not 100%. No, okay, sir. It's growing Phil off or something. Right, okay. Um, so, you know, Manquillo comes in. Does Enrique or Moreno start that left back, you know, or left wing back? I don't think we'll go trade the back against Arsenal. I don't. I think we'll go back to two and I think it'll be skeletal. And I think it'll be Tory. That'll start against Arsenal. Yeah. I think the love and experiment is over. And... The love and experiment is a good '70s band name, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The love and experiment. Yeah. So, the love and experiment is over. So, that brings Hendo back into the middle. Hendo back into the middle. And I think the midfield then picks itself. The only change maybe does he play Catino in with Henderson and Gerard, and then look to you. Sterling, Lelana, and Balotelli upfront. Yeah. And that will depend on what Balotelli does in the game against Barnett. Because if Balotelli plays well and scores a couple of goals, then he definitely plays against Arsenal. If he doesn't, then he may look for a mobile frontry, and that might see Markovitch Sterling and Lelana play up top with Markovitch sort of filling in what Watcatino did against, you know, the Catino dropping in the field. Do you want... Will I prefer him by Chan to be in that side? Yes, but I don't think so. And what's... The weird thing for me is that the guy has played so well against Chelsea, played so well against Rembridge, played so well against Hall, and has only played 50 minutes of football since then. And he'd be ideal for playing against Arsenal, because they don't like powerful physical footballers. But he's in the bunker with Berenia. The naughty boys club, isn't he? Yeah, like there's something... You might play against Bournemouth, and, you know, if he puts any show in. I mean, I wouldn't play Balotelli against Arsenal. Because I tell you, you know, Murtysack is going to love that. Murtysack. Murtysack are fair, is he? Well, didn't the people she plays centre back for? He did. But I think they're hoping to get him back. But I think Murtysack loves Balotelli. That's Murtysack's dream, whereas Sterling against Murtysack is our dream. And listen, that's the way I'd go. As I said to Dave, it'll depend. But he trades on how he does, yeah. It does against Bournemouth. If he scores a couple of goals, then he will start. If he doesn't, then I continue with that. Look, what I liked about the mobile frontry yesterday was they got around the pitch, and we were able to create chances. Now, as I totally believe, I think it was very well in the way they handled Sterling, because they did put him onto his left foot as much as they could, because it was his weaker foot. And I'd say Arsenal will try to do the same. So we have to walk him into better positions so he can get shots away in his rifle, because he's not as good on his left foot as he is. And something has to walk on. But look, you know, the one thing about Arsenal is you never know what type of Arsenal's got. If they turn up what ultra cocky as they can sometimes do, it may leave the door open for us. But they could also turn up the ultra cocky and be ultra brilliant and just destroy us. And that's the scary thing. Arsenal are now starting to go into their normal mid-season farm, which is generally the run they put together, which almost always nearly guarantees top four come to the end of the season. We have to stop that now if we want the chance, if we want to retain any chance of getting into the top four. Okay, well, I suppose, look, at this stage, we can maybe get an idea of prediction. So we'll start, I suppose, Bournemouth will go around and I'll go back around for Arsenal. Steve, well, you're just doing some spectacular, heavy breathing there, fella. You're obviously, yeah, it's good. It's good. Talk to me about Bournemouth. How do you see that one, Phil? I'm thinking three one Liverpool. Three one Liverpool, Dave. I think we'll lose. You think we're going out of the cup? Yeah. Okay, you're just going to leave it at that. Phil, Bournemouth. If we win, it's going to be a very tight win. A tight win. Yeah, start like Swans, he could be last minute job. Okay, I'm deliberately saying nothing this week, just to say that works. Let's move it on down to the Arsenal game, which is, depending on what way you look, a bit bigger or less. Maybe we should change it, because every time you come to me last below, so it's... Yeah, I think I... That's what it is. That's what it is. I try it every time. Everything is going to have to win, though. At this stage. Superstition's on the socks. Superstition's on the socks. Yeah, fuck it. Let's just start with you, Phil. Arsenal, Andy's going to it, so I think we will win two nil. You think we win two nil? Assuming the Tory starts. Okay. Okay. Dave, the Arsenal game. I actually think we'll lose that a lot. What's wrong with you? I just... I'd like to take this time to welcome Dave. Where... Back? I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. Okay. I think it gets worse before it gets better. I think that we need a striker, and we need to go and keep our arm without storage back, or without buying one of the other two. I worry about... Arsenal are better than us at every part of the field. Scary thing is, we lose the two of them. We're at 17 games. We're out at the League Cup. There's really only the FA Cup, and the Ferris Cup to play for, and the Ferris Cup. Same as any consolation, I predicted we win every game or season. So, you know, my predictions mean nothing. You know, the reality is, I think that... They were very good last year, though. I think these are the worst two possible games. First. The worst three possible. Away at all, Trafford. Top of the championship. Flowing. Cup. Scona, Arsenal. In good form away at Anfield, where we beat the Faunil, and they're just going to kill us this year. I just... Fucking... No, I'm going to want to kill us. Not today, I'm going to want to kill us. The only thing with Arsenal is... I always... Sometimes with Arsenal, I always feel that we're Joe. Joe win, Joe win again, we'll win against. Sometimes you always feel... Yeah, sometimes we'll always feel that we'll win. No, I think like we're Joe. And often in the darkest places. After you get good, you get the most unlikeliest results. Like when Haji bit children. And if you're wondering about where broke, when Liverpool broke me, it was when Mario Balletale tried an overhead kick. That was the moment that I... That it broke me and I went... What am I doing here? I like the way you slow back in your journey. I was trying to take it a bit again. I got there when he missed two sets... I actually laughed at myself with that. I thought it was fucking hilarious. Steve, what you've already said, Arsenal, probably a few... Yeah, and Dave said, I think they're going to come and want to kill us. I think they're going to kill us. You think they're going to... They will get beaten three now. And I'm fat. Maybe four now. I'm such a contrary, but I think we're getting proper... Properly beaten. Next Sunday. Properly beaten. Good enough. Like, I mean, I mean beaten. I mean beaten without the level of chances created that we created against Man United. I'll just keep waiting for this thing to click this season. There's enough good players for us. There's not... To click. Oh, I think there is. Okay, so... It's beak. I think it makes it hard to get made up against myself. I'm not certain you do think that, Trevor. I think you're just... I do, man. I think you're looking for that, you know, sort of... The old balance. It's the OP, man. I think you're looking for the... For the balance to this little... The balance? I think you may... I think you may be onto something there. You cynical bastard. Okay, we're done. Right. I am Lujware. You are listening to Trippin's chat. Right, let's do it. Okay, a couple of topics and questions suggested by... You listener. And the first one is from Paul. Now this depends on you who haven't seen two films. So we're going to make an assumption that you've seen these two films. I did a real title of the title. Yeah, it doesn't really matter to you because you won't know anyway. Final Destination and Saw. And he says, "Which movie would you rather happen to you?" So I think which one would you want to be in? Final Destination or Saw? So Final Destination... That's the one where everyone I went to school with dies and I survived, right? Yeah, yeah. But he's escaping that one. Yeah, but I survived. What does it say? No, eventually. Yeah. So when I started the first movie now, I survived the first movie. I find it essential to the first movie. No, it is the first one. Yeah, I survived that. You're a good Doy. No, no, no, in the movie. I don't think he means... In either of them, the lead character. When was the last one of which? I think he's more saying, "Would you rather have death catch up with you in some weird way or would you rather?" You've been tortured for fucking weeks on end. Oh, let me think. That's where I'm going, I don't know. I'm choosing Final Destination. I thought it was like you are like the main character, like you're the main character, as in the story of the film happens to you, in which case in Final Destination, I survived. Everyone I went to school with would die horrifically. Yeah. And I'd be okay. So I'd be okay with that. Okay. I'm sort of in a third option and probably prefer trading places where I'd become a millionaire. I have no mental anguish. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Bruce is really in the line. I don't know. I don't know. Sargave you the way you. Yeah. But you had to be prepared to do mad things. You had to saw your foot off. You had to get the key out of his eye, which was at the back of his eye. He basically would have had to pull his eye ball out and at the same time his head was being twisted this way and his body was being twisted that way. Until his neck snapped. Yeah, you're not going to see it. Nobody can understand what he's talking about. Like, you know, because you're doing actions in the part. I know. Well, his head was rotating clockwise. His body was rotating anti-clockwise. You need to just ask a quick question. At what point did Tripper's chats actually start to become a logical conversation? You're onto something. I'm with that in mind. The only thing is with final destination. You're just going to go, you've got this and yeah, go on. If you survive the day. He's going to talk a fucking message on what's up at half three in the morning. I've had to think about this, I couldn't sleep. You're not going to be a sequel. No, no, no, he's just the first one. Just the first one. Yeah, but he told him to say, "Death chases us." Yeah, fuck me. Death chases us all. We are moving on to the next slide. That's what I thought about the film was called. Death chases us all. Yeah, all right. Sketch. Death. Steevel, what was the worst movie you've ever seen? I'm on with the big... I was trying to send it as the worst movie I've ever seen. It starts with... And I only went to it because it was the only thing I'd get tickets for. And I was going with this chick and I had had no pre-planning or pre-taught in it. So I went to the movie and, you know, yourself, I was kind of thinking, "Okay, this could be kind of a mushy one to, you know, grab an elbow or get a smooch off." Or genuinely it was 16, you know what I mean? So going to the cinema to neck a chick was acceptable behavior back then. So how could it be so bad you left? Well, it started with this ox, or oxen, that was possibly two of them. Yeah. And they just came across... That is no way to talk about the girl. They came across the screen. And all of a sudden it was pulling a house. Right? Basically it was old, you know, probably 1800s and they were moving this house. And the way they used to do it was put them on to mat... You know, jack them up onto massive things and transport them via oxen. And I just thought to myself, "There isn't a Mickey fiddle in the world watching in two hours of this. It's probably best I just try a necker on the bus home." So I gave it to her three more minutes and I just realised this was going to be complete shit and just said to her, "What story are you enjoying this?" Thankfully she wasn't either. So I said, "Let's..." Straight to the bus. Straight to the bus here. Straight to the bus. "77 isn't here for another 22 minutes." That'll do me. That's a heartwarming tale. Right, Phil, you're in a pub, you've got a ferocious hangover, this is from Carl. And he is wondering, "What's a Tuesday, Phil?" "What alcoholic drink is acceptable?" "Posed status." Which prevents your death. "What saves you? What rescues you?" I think that's what Carl means. That's probably your voice. "Old skill." "What?" "Can I ask you how you manage to drink a Smirnava and ice in a pub and not result in death?" That's what Stevie was drinking in the cinema with that. Yeah, in 1998. "A West Coast cooler, a lot of my..." "It's just full of sugar." "Tribble salmon, what's your name?" "Happy, just go mad." "What do you want to do, she is get a bottle of ice in a bottle of Smirnava fice into a pint glass super chandy." That'll sort of get on that next time. "We tried it on Monday." "That's right Monday." "Okay, Steve up." "Super chandy." "Biscuit question for you, Patrick wants to know which are the best biscuits to accompany tea." Well, this is a question, but we're going to go "What's the taste?" "It's like having you stuff." "Oh, this is for Jesus." "I'm just going to go for a shot." "You should be finished by then." "David, do you want to join me?" "Come on Steve, our best biscuit." "Chocolate king, really." Half of the chocolate king, really. "What would you go for with tea, David?" "I don't drink tea, by the way." "Yeah, I drink Smirnava voice." "Or coffee." "So we're just eat biscuits." "Okay, right, we'll see." "You're going to just start fucking out." "He has a biscuit with his smirnava fice." "Go on, Dave." "I can't beat a chocolate hobnob." "Chocolate hobnob." "Have you got a shit in this formula?" "Change it all." "Yes, I know what you do." "See, the hobnob is why I was actually going to make it a conversation, because the hobnob for its ability to be dumped, as Rita Kay says, is it? "Dunk ability factor is very high, so what I was asking was, is it based on taste or based on functionality as is it going to end up at the bottom of your cup?" "See, but if you're worried, what I actually used to do was, I used to make a cup of tea and dunk in the purple snacks, just to melt the chocolate on them, and eat them." "I still got to start the end." "You still got to start." "I just finished." "Phil, Phil." "Right, wipe again." "Steve, you've probably got a story about hatchbacks, so I'm going to ask you this question." "Why do hatchbacks, Dave, you owners, have rear windscreen wipers when saloons don't?" Aerodynamics. Aerodynamics. "Are you actually seeing Steve as he just said, there or that?" "Well, I'm led to believe that it's down to the fact of the way the airflow is over the roof of the car. If you've got a saloon, it'll carry on out, and that's why your back lights and shit like that will get dirty. If it's a hatchback, the airflow will swirl in and stick the dirt to the back of the car. It's why the back of trucks are dirty, it's why the back of buses are dirty, because they've got flat backs. You've also got a different angle of the windscreen from a hatchback to a saloon." "That is beautiful. Do you agree with that, Phil?" "No." "What's your theory?" "Basically, if you open your saloon on your wiper in the hatchback position, you'll crush your wiper." "What?" "You have your wiper?" "Yeah." "You open the boot, you crush the wiper. You don't, when you open your hatchback, the whole thing comes up." "Hang on, well, the bootlet doesn't hit your windscreen." "No, but that's because it doesn't, because you have to go over the wiper again." "I've completely lost." "But it doesn't need a wiper because you're back window." "He's your wiper. He's your wiper. Brilliant. This is great, this is great." "He's your boot, right?" "Yeah, there's your boot, yeah." "That is possibly the worst diagram I've ever seen in my life." "Actually, he makes perfect sense. Let's move on to the next question." "To finish this out, Dave Thomas. Alex sends in a question and he's wondering, basically, he said maybe not me. I don't know why he wouldn't." "That's kind of mean." "But he says, 'Which Liverpool player is here?' "That's because you've gone ahead." "Would you, yeah. Do you reckon that's why it was stable?" "Thanks for fucking pointing that shit out." "Who knows?" "He never takes his woody hat out." "Who knows?" "Maybe he's grown enough for a one, don't he?" "Where he's got hairy hands as well?" "He doesn't fucking doubt us." "I hate all of you, this part of me." "I'm having a bad night tonight." "It's been a fucking nightmare for me." "Seriously, I'm fucking not-" "That sounds you could hear listeners is Trev's sword." "You know what happened to you at Mario's overhead kick?" "This part has fucked me off." "Anyway, that's a good question." "No, no, no, it's good, it's good." "Alex, this is a question." "Good question, good question." "Good happy question for Alex." "Which Liverpool player's hair would you steal if you could?" "You're not led to Emery Chan, fuck off on Emery Chan." "Give me another answer." "What an old cemetery, John." "You're not allowed to-" "I'm Trev, I don't know why Emery's hair." "Come on, it's on the original, give me something else." "One Liverpool player's hair, you had to be stuck with, who would it be?" "Ah, Raheem Sterling's." "Okay, nice." "You were actually, that's the best way to-" "I swear to God, that's why you were before me." "You would be like Michael Jackson before he died." "That's exactly the look I'm going for." "Pine picture, is Dave." "I was just gonna say-" "Let's go and leave the Astro Park, Paul Redden will have his hair." "Let's get Sterling's hair." "Let's get that." "Let's get that." "Actually, all other-" "Who's Steve Austin?" "What's happening?" "Straight off the bat." "All other conversations are relevant to the world." "Anyone top that?" "No, it's not." "We'll finish with some admin and we'll start with our weekly shed for Astro Park." "You want to play some football and you're in the Dublin environment then book your pitch time at Astro Park.ie on our website that's lfcdaytrippers.com." "You can read the articles that are going up there on a regular enough basis and you can link directly to the show as per usual." "A quick plug again for We Are Liverpool Fanzine," which is on sale at all the home games and online at www.wearel Liverpoolfanzine.com. "And your day trippers tonight were Steve and Daily, Dave Thomas, David Curry, Lee Mahali, Phil Casey and myself, Trevor Downey." "When he came out in them, I swear to God I must have laughed before." "I'm really cute at the- I was off the pitch at the time and I couldn't come home." "And yeah, when the boy said come on, guys, you guys physically cannot come on." "I didn't say he came out to be calling me onto the pitch right because he'd been out so-" "Why did he get one of the songs to you?" "And I literally was on the knees in the go, laughing." "Turn around." "Is that bass?" "Two sprouts where he decided to sing?" "He's just looking gone." "That was brilliant." "Was this okay?" "When everything went tits in then at first." "I think he just- "Tits in." "It's in." "That's what they were trying to say in Virgin Nipples." "It's a spot-ups, I was going to use biblical at the fucking house, the name of the podcast." "Tits in. Tits in. Tits in. Tits in. Tits in. Tits in. That's gotta be it. It's all gone tits in." "The kids at the club are like ghosts that walk around, right?" "And Benitez, whether we all agree with this, just don't go back." "Look what happened, just don't go back." "Don't go here because-" "There's a fucking million fucking managers-" "The ghost of people weeks of warfare." "Oh, I'm sitting there, I don't just see where we're going back." "I swear to God." "And I don't know, though, I don't know." "Ralph Benitez is the Phantom, the ghost that walks." "But he is." "It's just the ghost of Benio's past." "It's Christmas- it's a Christmas carol." "Johnson, he walked out the fucking pitch. I don't care if you can't walk." "Stay on until you can't. I'll tell the man who's ready to come on." "Oh, you're fucking-" "We walked off before I was ready." "Yeah." "He's a fucking shitbox." "Of the worst kind. I really do hate him." Is it time for a new heating and cooling system? Turn to the experts at Griffith Energy Services and Carrier today, and get 0% financing for 18 months on a new heating and cooling system. Get the comfort you deserve from Griffith Energy Services and Carrier. Visit GriffithEnergyServices.com today. For this and other exclusive offers, that's GriffithEnergyServices.com, license number MDHVACR01-2278. Griffith Energy Services. Down on dependable. So I heard from my sister's friend's cousin that Coles has the lowest prices of the season, and had to save her myself. For real, the deals are so good. I got my kids' summer tees for $5.99. A cute swimsuit for myself for $7.99. And a shark vacuum for $1.99.99. Which will be great after Sandy Beach days. I got Coles Cash too, and I got it all in less than an hour with free store pickup. So yeah, summer? I'm ready for you. Select Styles, M's May 23rd. Some exclusions apply. See store or Coles.com for details. [MUSIC] This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [APPLAUSE]
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