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Geico, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Managans are so afraid. Don't be afraid to show your stripes because the managans is always right. Plastic rain comes in the big parade. After yet another pig parade, have you got your plastic raincoat ready? It's the day trippers. After two weeks of Grace, time to ponder his options and make some big calls. Brandon Rogers, the same old faces in the same old positions making the same old mistakes. It's now reached the ridiculous stage where every game is huge and yet realistically the chances of rescuing or wretched season are diminishing what every in that performance. So what's really going on? I'm joined underlined by Karl Karpach and in the bunker with me tonight is the world's least likely support group consisting of Neil Gray, Moly, Andy Young, Daimel Flood and Phil Casey. Okay, let's review Crystal Palace versus Liverpool. No. It's pretty hard to do this, right? Feeling a little bit mad like you're in Montflow over the cookies and that's which is kind of exactly how I feel in the bunker here tonight. People oscillating widely from confused to live in and back again. Lessons not being learned and frankly, before we address any of the little details of the mash, I want to talk about the Brendan-shaped elephant in the corner and Karl, I'm going to start with you if that's okay and ask you a very simple question. Are the signs there that this might be a man who's kind of slowly losing the plot? In terms of his body language yesterday, yes, because normally he sort of rolls his shoulder and tries to sort of, you know, break out the sort of Jimmy Cagney look and so I'm in control of everyone. He looked broken yesterday when he left the pitch in a sort of is almost as if he was saying, I just don't know. I don't know where, how we've gone from this to this. And it's not a case of, you know, there's being one area of the pitch, that's the problem. It's the fact it's every area of the pitch now. Goalkeeper right the way through to forwards. As he lost the plot, he's in an unfortunate position really because he's basically has got a lot of new players in who he needs to bed in immediately to get him over their slump. But you could say that probably if some of them are on the pitch, you will be a start. Yeah, Carl, I know it's a divisive thing to throw out just right away, but like, I mean, people are kind of wondering, aren't they? Like, it's hard to be too hard in the man because, as you say, it's across the board. The problems are. Yeah, so you do have to have a little bit of sympathy for him, but basically, where do you think are the massive things that are his own fault? Stephen Gerard. Yeah. I think it's the principal one. He's got to be brave enough to say, Stephen, you're not doing what I want this doing on that pitch. And timing again, Stephen Gerard gets 90 minutes. That's the first thing he's got to look at because people blame the defence and the right, because I'm sure we're going to get onto goals and things and the second one was comic. But a lot of the goals we've conceded this season is basically because midfields run straight through the pitch at the centre backs, and they do it repeatedly, and there's no screen. Stephen Gerard can't play that role. He was deeper than scurled for parts of yesterday, and I don't know if there's a power struggle between him and Stephen and Brendan, but he's got to stand up and he's got to fight that. Or if it's not a battle, he needs to see. This is where it's going wrong principally, and it's a horrible thing to say about Stephen Gerard, because if any man deserves anything they discover it's that man. But there's no, there can't be affectionate about this. No, it's unavoidable. It's struggling. Yeah, yeah. We will go on and talk about Jared later on. Bloody, talk to me a little bit more about Brendan and the situation he finds himself in. I know different people at different levels of sympathy. Where do you find yourself on the sympathy scale? Oh, look, Brendan, what really, really, he's getting me there for the simple fact. He's still fucking staring Johnson. He's still staring at the scale. He's just spoke there about Jared. That's not function at all. Now, I kind of probably disagree and that he's not being, he's not doing what he's asked to do. He probably is doing what he's asked to do, which is getting the ball before he gets started early, but he's not able to fulfill that defensive role. But Brendan is heaping all the pressure on himself. You'd actually say, okay, give him a little bit of time. That's not really too much about it. He's trying something different here. But he's not trying anything different. He's the same shitheads, the same ones that's letting them down. Week in, week out. Well, that's kind of as bad as Badlands. It's fucking, this isn't just November that this happened. This is two years. And if he can't see that, fuck me, Brendan, I only put pressure on yourself. So that's why I always stand them. I'd love the same success, because he's done so much last year. And kind of, I think I've been in a game with yesterday, everyone loses their head. I did as well. There's no two ways about it. But before the game, I knew we were being, you just look at the starting eleven and you say, Jesus Christ, we've got problems here lately. If that's our starting eleven, we spend a hundred minutes in the summer. Jesus Christ. But so, I've got to say, if you weren't boy all these players, you've got to play them. If you're spending that type of money on them, and if you're not, then you're only putting pressure on yourself. Neil, what do you think about that starting eleven? Would you agree with that moment when you saw it? You just thought, yeah, we're in trouble here. Yeah, I agree with him. We look like we're, well, the perception was that we were kind of second best before. We even started, and I wasn't confident at all. I suppose if you're the most objective way to look at it would be, I suppose, facts and figures, isn't it? It's an 18-year trade for a 40-year plan, unless I'm right saying that. Yeah, I was just looking at it. He spent $214 million so far. Regardless of how much he got in, that's irrelevant. So his players have cost $214 million, and we've regressed massively since last year. I think it was just spoken about earlier. We're almost relegation for that. Everybody is looking forward to playing this at the minute we have, there's no desired leadership. The team isn't functioning the way it should be. It's rudderless, I think it's the term. Yeah. And I suppose that if there's no leadership in his rudderless, I mean, that falls at Roger's door. And then his general under pitch, Stephen Jared. Yeah, and that touches us back into leadership again. We're going to talk about leadership later on, and Jamie Carragher shouts on that topic. But just let me finish with yourself and Phil. Just get a couple of thoughts from everyone in the room on Roger's situation. Where do you stand on him at the minute? Are you kind of joining this chorus that's saying maybe he could be about done? Well, like Timo, I do like Roger's. It's a bonus to have a manager that recognizes all the traditions of the club, and we harps on the building enough. But it's nice to know that it's not a manager that's not going to mix things up and upset people around the club. It's a great thing, the history and all that. But unfortunately, he nearly plays the job up as if it's too big for him, and he's in awe of it. And he doesn't really, he doesn't seem like the leader of the club. Like, you know, he doesn't seem like he's in complete control like a manager should be. So that's part of the problem. And that's where that's where he runs into things like with dropping Jared. Like, you know, it makes a very awkward form. Like, I'd like to see Roger's succeed. But what's happening now, like, it's very, very serious. And it's ever continues. Like, if the girl champions leg this week, and then in January, we're still sitting, sitting where they are, then the search for a manager starts. But until all that kind of stuff happens, he's just about safe. But I mean, it's close. It's days, as days are at the moment, they look like the Kobe downward. I mean, it can't continue. And he has had money to spend. He has had quite a bit of time, you know, but there's certain things that aren't even showing signs of improvement whatsoever. Yeah. Phil, I'm going to wind you up a little bit here. We've got a manager very hard to wind me up any more than I am. Oh, hell, right. We'll try. And he's talking about the situation that Brandon finds himself in. He talks about, you know, what a manager should be and what a manager should do. And I'm looking at it. And from minute one, it's been clear to me that Brendan wants to be very much the main guy whose column shots. And he's actually made a massive point of it with the whole director football thing at the start. Then you look at on the field, and you've got one massive issue, which is you've lost two guys who are incredibly quick and incredibly skillful and go to scoring goals. You don't have them. Therefore, you don't have the space they create. You don't have the space for sterling and continuous roll into. So they're less effective. You need to change the plan quite considerably. That hasn't happened. And there are a number of levels there where Brandon Rogers massively, massively, massively underperforming. Is that not fair? Yeah. Well, you know, he has gone and changed his plan. He changed the shape because he doesn't have storage and Suarez. He's literally thrown the baby out with the bathwater in terms of not looking to play his diamond formation. We're looking at an alternative in his own squad at this moment of time. This is demo, and we've all eludes to many times. He spent an awful lot of money in the summer to give ourselves, say, more options and squad depth. And that's failed miserably in terms of the way he's used to play herself for. If he was sacked tomorrow, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't shed it here. And in fact, you know, I can make a stronger argument for sacking him than to keep him at this moment in time. And I go back. I judge him on the same grounds that I judge Kenny Douglas on when he was in for a second term, when that Jordan the last season, a raffle one, it looked like we were heading down a path of destruction. And the same one who he was at the club. And it was coming to the end. And he was turning out so many corners. He was stuck around about going around and around in circles. And I'm looking up random. And I just don't see anything. As Carol alluded to, I didn't see anything on the bench. There was no change of shape. It took him so long to make any substitutions. When he did make the substitutions, he seemed to take off our better performing players. Yeah, and you know, there was bizarrely from that game, there was a couple of good performances, despite the fucking a boring show that went on. And when you see a manager so lost at sea, and so far removed from the confident person that he was last season, with seemingly no answers buried down the exact same thing over and over again, then for me, the time was up. Now, do you change the mid season? I don't think you do. And I don't think the club will. So I don't think that comes into the wrecking at this stage. However, if we find ourselves anywhere near the relegation zone at Christmas time, just as John Henry pulled the plug finally on Roy Hudson when they took over, it would not surprise me if they started worrying about what was going to happen for the second half of the season. What do you think about this credit build up argument to be any time for that? I do. I do. And to be honest with you, that's why I don't think he'll go before the end of the season. And he will have until the end of the season to sort it out. And if ever there was a chance from now to say, focus, I need to now build a Brendan Rodgers team. And I made a pure Brendan Rodgers team. Then now is the moment. The moment was three or four games ago was, wasn't it? To be fair. Yeah, it's the moment. He had that moment when we played against Madrid, and he made the changes. And then he reverted back to the same shot again in the next game. Yeah. But I think the Saturday was a significant tournament point, actually, because the country with difficult spare where playing Madrid and Chelsea are expected losses before that they lost to Newcastle. So like, the pressure is on, but you have two big games. You know, we're like, most of them aren't like you're going to lose. But then all of a sudden, two week break, Crystal Palace, he taught a lot of time to think about and get the team prepared. I know some of them are off in international duty, but there was a good card there. It's still a bill. And he couldn't use more than players. But I mean, it was the same shit over now again. So I think Saturday was quite a tournament point. And what he tried to be balanced like, and I don't like to jump on the fellas back really early in the season 10 games. And we're not, this isn't a start anymore. Like, this is the middle of the season now. And it's not, you can't say I was a slow start or hang over from it. It's just, it's just unacceptable at this stage. And what he actually feel like he could walk, you know, because it doesn't look like he's changed, and it doesn't look like he's the answer to himself. So he must be questioning himself when he goes home at night. What am I going to do? This club is massive. What am I going to do? And then come January, like I said earlier, and we're out of Champs League, and we're still far away points, just above the relegation zone or down around there. He might walk. I'll just say, as I said, right? If he was to go tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear. Because I've gotten past the point of shedding a tear is over players leaving and managers leaving. It's part of the football dance. It happens in every single club in the world. Fortunes can change massively, and all of a sudden the person who was God one minute is the devil the next minute, right? That's just football. But, you know, you support the club, and you're supporting the club, not a player who plays, not a manager who's there at that moment in time. And what you need is you need those players and those managers to perform. Now, my biggest fear at Rogers is when I read the reports from, well, there was a foreign against argument about his time at Reading between two fans. I tweeted the link as well earlier today. And it's bizarre because the against argument states when things went wrong from Reading, instead of him embracing change and trying to change things around, he became entrenched in his ways, refused to change anything, refused to change the team, and started making mad pronunciations in, you know, in his post match press conferences. And you would I would hate to see and look to be honest with you, like, I don't want to see him gets I want to see him succeed. Everyone else wants to see Liverpool succeed. We don't want to see him fail. But if he fails and continually fails, then that is not the right person for the job. Yeah. So tomorrow when you make that call, I think we've all fell in love with the idea of him managing the club. He's young and he brings in fresh ideas and he wants to play attack and football. And in our almoins, like you probably picture them, maybe managing the club of next 10, 15 years. And it is quite disappointing that you find yourself asking, you know, is he the right man for the job he is. Because it's going to be back to square one again, like, there's going to be lots of players sold, there's going to be, you know, lots of questions about a new manager. And fuck knows who the end of bringing in. Yeah. Carl, a man who's been doing an awful lot of talking about the club, from his position up in the sky towers is Jamie Caragorn. He was very, very vocal about lack of leadership. And obviously, you know, you can connect this back into the manager and the manager's choice of players and so on and so forth. One that jumps at me is Dejan Lovren, because that word came up a lot with him. But it was a little bit unfortunate wasn't it to hear, I don't know if he did or not, but to hear Carl focus more on the on the kids rather than on the established older heads who are far more guilty of lack of leadership. Would you agree with that? Who's Jamie Caragorn's best mate at Liverpool? Yeah, well, they wouldn't know what's pointing the finger. Yeah. And the problem is, of course, we as fans, if we do that, it's it's heresy. You can't you can't criticize the great Steven. You can't do it, but he's not doing it. He's just not doing it. And I appreciate it. But from his perspective, it must be difficult for him to go to to Lovren and say, you I want more from you when Steven's absolutely stinking the ground out. Yeah, it's very difficult to do that. But there are no leaders. I did this brings me back to it. Lovren's really interesting because I was in and I went to the first game of season, Southampton, and I was quite low down in the main stand. So I was looking right into the cop area, you know, if I was I was one of those seats in a way, you're basically, you're in the main stand, but you're facing into the cop. Yeah. It was that bad of you. And literally, every time that mini like failed crowd for the ball, Lovren was screaming in his face, you've got to come for that. You come when I tell you to come. And he was doing it all the way through the phone and I thought, we've got a leader. That's great. I want someone. We haven't had that since Caragorn to come and start screaming at people. So you go there, you go there. I'm in charge of this. This is a leader. You push out when I tell you to. I thought, this is great, we've got this in Lovren and Lovren's quiet as a mouse. Yeah. What's happened there? Why does someone's character change? As you say, that's the first game of season. He is like, he doesn't know any better. And you know, has it been beaten out of him or what? Is he being instructed? Yeah. It might be, you know, told that, you know, it's the goal, keep it that makes those decisions because he's facing into the pitch rather than, you know, getting turned. Yeah. It could be that. It could just be because Lovren is also stinking the ground out. So he feels that he doesn't really want to sort of start giving all the side when you're going, everyone else on the pitch can say, well, I'm not making it. It'd be nice if you joined in. Yeah. You know, so and that's the, any football inside, any failing football inside is one where no one's going to put the hand up and say, hang on, should we do this? And no one is doing that in Liverpool at the moment. And we've got a lot of kids in that squad in that team yesterday. But Johnson, Gerard, Lovren, the keeper should be doing more skirtle. Skirtle, you know, he looks scary. So he should be doing some more of that. And Karug is right. There's nothing that I wouldn't, but the Jamie Karug is to criticize the kids. He was a kid once. You know, I remember a game when we played Stoke, it was rough as bad season. And it was after we played Tottenham and Skirtle and Karug had both did the Reds in where they collided. Yeah, yeah. Don't be like Alex that, Middlesbrough played against Stoke that day. And every single time he got the ball and rolled it to the side or found a, you know, a full back or something or pushed it into his field, Jamie Karug collapsed his hands and walked up and patted him on the back every single time. That's their job. The equivalence of that is in criticism from Daniel Aardin saying like, you know, why aren't you beating three men and putting it, you know, right on the sort on the penalty spot for a philanthropist? Yeah. Can't blame kids for that. Yeah. Ultimately, but they're senior players for a reason. Yeah. One of those players who doesn't get labelled senior players, much as he showed up, he is many a lion. He's had a lot of shocker there. Yes. So he hasn't even furnished him. He's absolutely horrific. Isn't he? He's always, he was always a decent shot stopper. Let's be fair to him. No, I feel the brutal. But we say goalkeeper. That was great across the kick of them. Yes. The bar being kicked out from the free kick, holy fucking jazzy. The kid don't that like your gold bananas at him. Yeah. I don't know. The fella is just a void and shattered of all confidence. And I think, feel the degree, won't your confidence as gone as a keeper in my fault? It's very, it's very, it's very hard to get a bunch of it. Yeah. You need to go. The other needs to sit in the bench for six months or he needs to point another club. Yeah. Because I think once it's gone, you need to go find yourself again. I think the ladder was here a couple of weeks ago, was pretty much saying the same thing. Once I've broken down to that level, there's no return. Yeah. You need to step out of it. Yeah. You need to step out of it. And the back four is now helping him. Stephen Dred is now helping him. He's got absolutely no protection. So everything's focused on every, every little mistake he makes. Well, you get order capers, you might make a mistake, but I sent a half a bell, or a defensive midfielder, a bell, the mouth. Like at the moment, if he makes a save, even nobody's following up down on the second ball, like the save, he makes his Chelsea from the header as a wall, he says, it's a great save. And he keeps it out. But nobody follows up down. Yeah. So he's on a little set, but he just looks completely and utterly shattered as a person. You know, we just, as a keeper, I think he just needs to, what are you taking out of town, and put Jones in. Like Jones, he fell asleep in the bench yesterday. He's looking at the games and hitting him. He's looking at this. He's like, I'm trying to know a week, put a goalkeeper in with no hands. And you're still not going to get him ahead of him, make the way it is. No goalkeeper. Yeah. Brendan has got this direct roasting squad. Like he's talked about this squad that he has, the squad he wants to use. If you're going to have a squad, use a squad, Brendan. You know, and put the order here. He's a squad, Brendan. Just pull him in. Just do it. Neil, it's a perfect storm. Isn't it fully described there, a confidence voice. You've got a keeper there who's struggling. The two guys ahead of him are clearly struggling. And, you know, they've been pretty much consistently the most regular appearance makers. And the two fold backs either side who we really love to see more of, we don't get to see them together, the two kids. So it is radiated. It's a proper, closer focus, isn't it? Yeah, between the two and the five of them, I suppose. The five of them have played yesterday. I suppose, Baron Keel. It's a mess, isn't it? I mean, I know we're good. We'll get into the goals later on, but like, we're, they're sold positionally unaware. It's unreal. And I said, like, he's got his professional footballers. I mean, you learn, if you're sent a half, you learn how to position yourself when you're 14 and 15, which they're not even doing that. Now, I think part of Lovren's problem is Johnson is so bad. He's trying to cover for him. And that's taken away from him trying to do his own job. I'm just probably looking for him, touching that straws here. For two of the goals yesterday, Lovren was, was as concerned about Johnson's position as he was at a crystal palace player's position. And I suppose, if Johnson is that, and then he, behind him, he has a goalkeeper who is completely ineffective. So, well, look, I was going to look at Lovren Skirtland and Johnson as a kind of, an axis of shit, an axis of, of awfulness. But like, let's talk about the goals, because the guys are central to those guys are central to those goals. And there's anyone who taught me true the first one, because I know. Steve Drek, Steve Drek, Steve Drek. Do you know what, right? If you go back to last year's match against Crystal Palace, the goals came when they attacked down Johnson's flank and went to him in Skirtland and got joy out of the field, right? And this year, they were like, Balassie was having a Roy Humdinger with Mankayo down the right hand side of the park. And to be honest with you, Balassie, for all his running and stepovers and tricks and all that he was doing, he wasn't getting any real joy. He wasn't getting shots away at Mignalay. He wasn't getting, he wasn't like getting, telling passes into the box that that Mignalay didn't have to pull off. Actually, it was interesting. The sky coverage at half time, we're trying to show that Mignalay, they're sorry, that Mankayo was getting skinned. And each time they showed it, Mankayo was gold-side. Yeah, so it was bullshit coverage. He couldn't get past him. He was able to stand up and look effective, but every time Mankayo stood up, you know, he'd get a block in, he'd win a ball or something like that. The gold then comes from Balassie coming off that flank and going and attacking the Lover and Skirtland and Johnson. And the shock comes because Lover and let him go, tink in the Johnson's coming in. And then Johnson does as usual, what's going on in the football match? Yeah, well, I don't even feel it, let's do it. No, I know. We had three midfielders around, and it's just a simple little layoff into Balassie. No one put a challenge in. We didn't even get tight, we didn't even get touch tight. But what happens there is Balassie plays it up, makes the run. And Stephen Dred ball watches as he always does, and he watches the ball and Balassie makes that run into where Jared should be picking that up, you know, and he doesn't pick it up and he gets into that hole between both, you know, and that was the more usual Jared's defensive midfielder in there. He offers no cover up attention. Well, let's not forget Alan was after pitch at the time. We still had three in there. Yeah, yeah, but there was four, like the Alan, the area you ran into was where Alan had been. There was still four. There was still four, there was three and Dred. That, he had a huge amount of space that he went, once he broke past Jared, he had a huge amount of space. So when it's, once the players run into your pace, like it's gone, it's gone to be a problem. If we make a failure, Balassie makes that run, and I'm tracking Balassie, and he's running towards Dred, I'm not chasing him. I'm passing him onto Dred, and I'm staying holding his shape. You know, so I think if you're in Alan's there, he's gone through past the month Dred. Dred was because he just played out of hell. He was watching the midfield, when the initial pass was put through to Balassie, he was... Balassie runs in behind him. Yeah, but he was, he was just when the guy at the Crystal Palace led to pay the initial layoff into Balassie, Dred. I'll have to be able to show you now. Dred gets attracted to the ball, it depends on midfielder, it shouldn't, like he's not reading the game, he's not, he's not waiting to see what's developing, he just goes for the ball. He, they all should be more aware that Alan was off the patience, they should have been, it should have been organized, that somebody else was filling in from a sterling dropback or whatever. But my point is that when, when he does break, and he goes across, Skirtle shadows him across to Lovren. Lovren doesn't step in to stop the run across, he steps back actually. Johnson, he's expecting Johnson to come in, because Johnson is looking at Balassie, coming up from that direction, and he just does not, he freezes, he, but he freezes, he freezes for a fraction of a second, and then that's it. Then he starts to approach slowly, and then Balassie gets the shadow away, and whatever about him getting the shadow away, he hits the post and Skirtle is completely torn off to your man Gail behind him, right? And all of a sudden, as the ball comes off the post, you can see Skirtle look around, and he's like, "Oh, where's your man come from?" And all he has to do is start it into the back of the net. So look, if you're looking at it, it's just the lack of awareness from those three players is freezing. Players, senior players as well. Yeah, talk to me about those senior players on the second goal then, Carl. It's one of the most horrible sites you can see when you watch a ball, literally be rolled across a box, when you've got two sets in the back, standing between that ball and the goal, and they run at each other, not towards the ball. How long did he have that? He could have stopped him and all the faggot while he was waiting for that ball to come to it. It was absolutely nothing. You can look at Johnson as well on the build-up, because Johnson just stops running, what's the question? It's terrifying, yeah. And he rolls it, and it made me, you know, as Liverpool fans, you know, we've seen the great players charge out and eat first, right? That's not getting anywhere. The only way this is going to go in is the deflection of me in some way, and the two of them, just stand there and watch that ball roll. And then you can say, maybe they wouldn't have made any difference, but God, make it difficult for him, aren't you? He could pick his spot. They just left it, let's see if the keeper gets it, because the keeper's actually not bad in that situation. Normally, you know, I shot him six yards, I always trust me, and they're like, a lot more on the sort of six yards than they're doing coming for a corner. Because he's that sort of goalkeeper, he's half a goalkeeper. Do you know, if, sorry, Carl, if Maureen was playing as a left-back there, you know, when... was a ballassie again who flicks the ball over Lovren's head, Maureen was on a charge to cover him behind him. Like, that's the fundamental difference between those two players. You've got one player who'll break his ballocks to get back and Troy do something, and you have another fellow who goes, well, that's not much of any more. Anybody? Well, Flanagan, it's kind of... Maureen, they all will be done something different than Johnson. It's just typical of Johnson. It's just stand there and they'll fuck all and just hope somebody else starts it out. And that other person was Lovren probably doing his best to cover the space, and then he makes a show themselves. Which is just like... If you look how you line up from the trow in, and you just point the finger straight at Johnson, like, you get your mid-failor coming in front of the man, Johnson. Johnson gets in between them, Lovren and the... Yeah, he should be... So, the last you should never get that into him. And then he should be coping about it. Yeah, he should... Johnson should be calling that out, we should be on his toes, so he's blocking the man getting a chest, and then if it's flicked on, he's there. Well, he does nothing. Literally, the author's nothing. And how long was Balassie over there, about 10 seconds? And then he had to chief the creator of his hell, man, kilo, handled. Because that was a... man, kilo, was brilliant at lots of tackles, like, he was caught in opposition, but he got the last he challenged him. Do you know what? He moves on through your side and straight away, bank on. See, Johnson's just untouchable on squeeze bars in the hole. I never gets questions, never gets... And it's cowardly and it's cheating. Yeah. That's what it is. It's cowardly and it's cheating. It's not making a decision, and it's... If you don't make a decision and you stop that you're a carrot on the pitch, we slaughtered Stuart Downan for doing the exact same things when he used to go hide behind players, and he's hiding on a football pitch, and that's disgusting and avoidable. Karla's that a bit strong? Karla, as an accusation leveler, Glenn Johnson there? That's... it's a recent ask. John Anderson, it was great for that when things went going as well, he used to hide as well, but recently this thing we used to get injured and go down on his horn, which is in below for five minutes, and stand up and jump up where they are. This is a finger flew past him. Glenn Johnson is an absolute disgrace of a footballer. He really is. I know he's got his contract thing going on. I don't give a damn. You play in 90 minutes for the footballer. It's as simple as that, and your age should be fighting for a construct. You shouldn't be stopping at a miren's sunset in the distance while a man goes past you. It's just ridiculous. But like tie into what you were talking about earlier on, there's a man who keeps pulling him in there every time. And when he's not right back, he's left back. He's the guy. He's the guy. And why is he getting picked? You pick players like that because you think, okay, he's not having the best as one, but he's an experienced head on the pitch, and he might be able to bring some player up a bit more, a bit more out of the miren, a bit more out of the man clearly. Yeah. And he might as well just go take a catalogue outside then and start taking other days. But you want to look, we've found it on that pitch at all. We've found a touch on it that we feel that your arm might be real in the dressing room. You know, we might have a little bit of a register. He only goes and names Johnson as his fucking best write back that he's ever played with. Like the one that is like kind of, I don't know, like you don't want to be kind of saying, what everyone has to feel and that Rogers isn't the big man in the dressing room, you know. And the fact that Johnson's playing week and week out and only during the week, the record was ever thousand, the best write back. I still don't know how you could name him. How does that even pass? When you play with Aaron Marcus, Finn, and your play with Marcus Baba, you've played, you've played with Karen. Aaron is a write back. You've played with Flanagan. You've played with Flanagan. You've played with Stephen Wreat, he's betting him. Yeah, we're just kidding. You want a king? And Croc Camp. Nice news, man. Gregory Vignar. We're going to the island there. Every write back ever. It's better than... Well, isn't it just mad that every single fan, well, apart from one or two, I know that podcast, it's late in Johnson. I can't understand why he's at the time. Like, what's wrong with it? Ooster has the problem with it. I think it's you, I think it's you. I think it's you. What the fuck is going on? It does reflect on what you were saying what's going on, a writing towards the end of his tenure. And he just couldn't see the wood for the trees. He just kept repeating mistakes over and over again. Now, I don't know how prophetic that is, but still at the same time, it's a little bit similar to what was going on. I didn't quite get behind that when I heard a force from Phil, but I can kind of see what you're saying there, because I was thinking about the January, when he was there for the first year, and he turned things around with the two signings, but you're talking about a situation where you can't really get anyone else in. He has to make deal with the squad that he's got, and it's the same mistakes every single week. Well, players. Yeah. And I got... The frustrating thing is, again, we go back to... when he did say, right, you know what, change it up for the Real Madrid game. He felt he couldn't, you know, he was on a no-lose there, and it was a free game, right? And you saw the level of effort. And I'm just saying, at a very basic level, the level of effort and application that those players put when they're on the pitch that night, and then that's all you want. If you put that same level of effort and application up against a limited, a very limited Crystal Palace team, you don't get beaten there. Do you know what's awful about that name in retrospect? Was we caught maybe it was a chance to see, you know, was it a little show of the finds here? I'm going to sort this out with lesser lights. And then he just bungs in the old names again. And then we have two weeks breaking. Everyone gets all head up about a chance for something new. The old names come back again. And, like, you know, there is no getting around that. And the man deserves every bit of criticism. He's getting for that. Like, I'm not one of these writers out of people at all, but he does deserve it. Why do you have to organize the plane? I've been doing up the banner all afternoon. You were trying to start March as an everything. You're like the secret man behind the idea. I did say on the pod two weeks ago, I think I'm the only person who said it so far, that he might be the first to go before any players go. And that wasn't because I want them to, but I think it might happen. Sorry, can I just come back? Yeah, yeah, please take care. I'll say it about the second goal. Yeah. Because you're just randomly talking about Madrid there. Colo Torres on that second goal, the way he defended in Madrid. Yeah. The first thing he does there is cut the ball. The first thing he does. Yeah. He doesn't run it, he's not a centre-back thing. Oh Christ, we could consider. Yeah, I know. Straightaway, his instinct is to attack the ball. I mean, I can't say he'd do that in the Palace game, but that's what he was doing in Madrid. Yeah. He was just constantly. Carolyn, it started going back to it. You know, there's an element that says, you know, we're talking about leadership. We're talking about lack of leadership on the pitch. The one thing that Colo Torres brings to that team is leadership. You know, he's an old head on an old shoulder. [LAUGHTER] Old means, and hips. [LAUGHTER] But like, if you're the defence performer, well, and you've, you know, a couple of lads in there, and I go partnership and I play well, you never consider Touré. But at the moment, like, he's way better. Way better. You know. I think that definitely, within the squad, we've all been there. We've all been to that stage. We've sent in the dressing room, and there's a fucker getting picked every week. And everyone's going to wish for it to ease your ass hand. I'm only going to deal with him in training. And that's what I say. [LAUGHTER] We've all been to being that player, and we've seen that player in the dressing room weekend. But there's not too many players. That's in the dressing room. Being that dressing room, saying, he's shit. Like, at the moment, we are probably the worst team in the league. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] That's a team. Individually, like, individually, individually, like, okay, they could put easily just torn it around and put six or seven wins on the truck league, and then we'll cast it. And all of a sudden, like, we make fields out of ourselves. Talking away, we're talking. But at the moment, at the moment, we're the worst team in the league. Yeah, well-- As a team, we're not individually, but as a team, it's all disjointed. There's nothing good to be said about them. Apart from maybe, Chad and-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] And we're laying out. That's probably a bit of a-- Let's fucking face it. Well, just-- Two would have won the bench yesterday. [LAUGHTER] Two would have won the bench yesterday. Yeah, the bench, the bench, the bench, the bench, the bench. Isn't it just bafflingly? Well, look, let's push it up the pitch. And look at-- Let's look at Grim areas elsewhere. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Look, Neil, one of the highlights for me and around the day was Joe Allen. And one of the lowlights on the day was Joe Allen getting taken off was Stevie Hubble the boat. The highlight for me was the bandage. Oh, so I was fucking magnificent. He looked like one of the pop-pucks. See, maybe it's just magnificent stuff. But to be fair to the kid, he was actually quite good yesterday. And he'd be tidy and neat. And I don't-- maybe I'm wrong. But you'd like to think that things might have been slightly different if he had stayed in the pitch. I don't know why he was taken off. Could you make any sense in our car? Oh, I could make head and attack. I suppose he was our best performer, not to say he had a particular legal game. He was the best performer out of players that were on the-- that started yesterday. The reason why he was taken off, I can't fight him in the toilets, goes beyond comprehension, I think. I think they said that the wind opened up again. Ah. Yeah, but he had a big black bandage on. He was grand. Well, yeah. Yeah, no, he-- He called it a bandage just so he can't see it like that. Well, actually, no, his jersey was pretty heavily bloody again for the third time on his way. So maybe there's a lot to do that. Oh, why did you ask me? Did you take him off to? What? Clearly, I was saying, clearly, I was saying, I was saying, you know what I'm saying? Gotcha. I was saying, you're the one who knows who you are. You were last in time. Just now, Terry, put your shit in the home, God, you're a fucking wind. Oh, no, we're in a fucking dress. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm going to do this. Oh, well, talk to me about two guys who did quite a bit of time on the pitch, and that's starting in Catinio, who, you know, for a variety of reasons, weren't their usual selves. What did you make of their impact or lack of it? What would you trace it to? Um, well, there's a dip in form between the two of them, which is just spread across the team anyway. So you can mean, you can't really pick that out, but-- I mean, the progression of the ball from the two center halves and Stephen Gerard into the midfield, and Truman's who are attacking midfielders is shocking. I mean, there's a ponders, there are very ponders at the back, just decide to sideways pass and pass in the back. It's too easy to start defending against high up the pitch. And if they're not getting quick ball when they make their movements, because, I suppose, the guys who have an attack and instinct like that have a look over the shoulder before they receive the ball, and then they know what everybody else is in front of them. But if the ball has come, it's ponders and it's come and slow into them. I mean, again, they get torn to somebody tight against them. So it's not-- I wouldn't particularly say it's their fault that they are underperforming. I suppose we're looking at the stats earlier. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm starting to throw my weight in it. No. [LAUGHTER] Not what I would say. What I would say is-- Oh, revenge. Continio, as ball retention is excellent, but as chances create, as compared to the last 10 games, the last season is dropped dramatically. I don't know whether that's probably not his fault, because the movement in front of them is pathetic. That's a lot to do with it, surely. So I suppose you can say, how was their form? And how did they play? I said they weren't particularly impressive. Their form has dropped, but I think that's a consequence of what's in front of them, rather than their own form. Form. Yeah, it's that fair flute. It's a function of a team underperforming all around them, and a lack of pace in front of them. We don't know, because you can see most teams now are going to deploy us 20 yards deeper. Last year, we could sit in salt pressure and counter so quick, because we had storage. We had continuing out staring, as far as-- now we've got no pace up front. And as Nail just said, the movement of the ball is so ponderous, from the back of the mermaid field to them. But the time it's gotten them, all the channels and avenues I've lost off. And then if they do get it, chinkily, they've sent the forward stuff, fucking doing nothing for them. They wanted the feet. There's nobody looking to get in behind or getting in the channel. And they wanted to look for that ball. And at the end of the day, there are only two kids as well. They're two kids, in terms of the overall team and the age of the team. We shouldn't be expecting the weight of everything that we can do to be following their feet at the moment. And yet we are. And yet we are. And I think it's very unfair in the team. We talked to Daniel in a second yesterday. And now he didn't create a hole. He always looked busy. He always looked like he couldn't return in the ball. But we created for God, I see. We know we didn't-- The goal that we did score-- that landed right on Lambert's toe. Unless that ball landed right there, he wasn't going to score. I mean, if he had to make a two or three feet of early, he wasn't going to get enough to put it right on his toe. But it wouldn't be fair to say that in fairness is a beautifully taken goal. It took a score very well. It's good touch and it's a great finish. But it all has to be emphasized every single time he's only going to score a trade goal this season. Yeah. I was going to-- I was building up to that being our happy moment. For what? I'm excited to know. I'm excited to know. Actually, can we just ignore what Neil said there? Carl, I've got to come to you. Get it. Get it. Get it. Carl, I'm probably going to have to come back to flow to you about Lambert anyway, because look, I just want to talk to you about Lambert. I'm going to go like-- our little oasis of enjoyment was in the first minute or minute and a half or whatever it was. You killed the game off it. Yeah, yeah, we really did, yeah. Look, credit where it's true is a beautifully taken goal, at least. It's a goal I didn't think you could score. Yeah. Because, you know, you think Ricky Lambas is just sort of easy. He's going to just basically run into center backs all day and then take on scraps. There's a lovely ball from Milan and obviously that's nice to see that connection working. And, yeah, I don't think he did a great deal after that. But then again, he was wearing Liverpool shirts. So it wasn't a great deal going on, not other than that. But that was really nice to see. Because I do like to see scorers, score goals that you don't think they can score. Suarez and Headers, for example. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think you always picture, when you think of a goal scorer, you think of a typical Luis Suarez goal or a tickle Ricky Lambas. I didn't think that was a tickle-- Ricky Lambas goal yesterday. So that was really nice to see. Yeah, as you say, then, the sad thing is it kind of falls off the face of the earth after that, in terms of the form of it. It means nothing. That's what we've just been saying. We didn't-- nothing meant to, really, though. He's not exactly the most mobile strikers in each other. What did you make of-- again, I don't know if you heard this, but OK, he was handing out a lot of elders. But he did actually go seeing-- waxing lyrical about Ricky Lambas. It was Mr. Carter, again, talking about how he's a lovely, lovely footballer, et cetera, et cetera. He got a fella crossing right here, he's dying. What do you make of him in this contribution so far? I've seen him a few times at Anfield. And he's trying really hard, which is nice. Yeah, it is nice. So in some ways, I'll settle just for that these days. Yeah, yeah. It's not going for him, I think. Maybe he's-- I think he's an odd sign. But being a man like Lelano was the marquee sign, really. And you think-- I know they play together as an answer, but you think ordinarily, if you're going to buy Ricky Lamba, you're going to buy wingers who are going to get chalk on the boots, take it down the side, knocking, so he can head it. That's sort of what was supposed to be the Stuart Down and Andy Carroll deal. I don't think he's somebody who's going to turn a centre back and get in behind him much. Although he did it yesterday, I don't think that's his normal game. So I'm all of those having strikers who do different things, but I can't quite see the logic of Ricky Lamba at the moment. Yeah, just Ricky Lambert's tings are a little bit limited, aren't they, and you want to have-- We're not playing through his strengths. We're not playing through any strengths. We're playing through his strengths. Last word on Ricky Lambert to Damien Flod. I haven't gotten good to say that. I mean, I'm sorry not to say it because I'm going to review over. I'd say some noise, Bill. Go on, go on, do. Well, when he scored the goal, like Horner said. Well, that's interesting. That's interesting. There's a Liverpool striker running after Charlotte over the fender. Good point. No looking to make a run. And then he went, for the rest of the game, did pretty much what Balladilly's been doing. And just chasing back through the middle, chasing back. And these are players that are going to pick up the ball and then run at the opposition with pace and scared to live in daylight seldom. So if you had to keep doing what he was doing and looking for balls, you know, cue balls in from Catania or Alilani, maybe it could have been different. Oh, it says at all that that's a nice thing that you're saying. But is he being asked? Is the striker so much a lone striker yesterday? But he's been asked to do this and not walk off the fender, Charlotte. Can I just say something? Please do. He missed two really good chances yesterday. He did. And if that was Balladilly, he'd be getting started from missing two chances, even if he scored a goal. Oh, I mean, that's a lot. [LAUGHTER] No, no, but you know, he rightfully gets to praise for a very good finish. But after that, he's as ineffective as Balladilly has been in any game that he's played. He's probably been less effective, right? And the fact that he scored a goal, and he's a big Liverpool fan, and he probably hasn't had as many opportunities as Balladilly has in the team, but whenever he's played, he hasn't really showed anything to say that he should have more opportunities than Balladilly in the team. And in fact, we tend to have more missed chances from Balladilly. Oh, no, that's not a great thing. But we seem to have more chances when he's in the side. He has two chances, and then I can't remember another chance after that we have. And that's a shock and indictment. Mankayo has a great one, but he's a full back comin' on. If that's sterile in our continue, you'd expect him to hit the target as it was and went down for the trial. It was a shocker, and it was a shocker. And you know, it's probably a pivotal moment 'cause it's one all of that stage. He scores, and we probably get out of jail and get a win there, and things are completely different today. But again, we're looking at a center forward who's just as ineffective as all the other center forwards. When Borini comes on, Borini seems to have less of an understanding with Lambert than he does when Balladilly is on the pitch. Now, Balladilly's injured, so I'm not saying that he, what he did when he started over Lambert, blah, blah, blah, blah. You have to play with what you have. But sometimes it requires a creative fix. It's maybe you don't play with any strikers. Maybe you deal with Andy's being a spousal for ages. You play with Leland and Sterling and Catina with your phone tree, and you know, ask Sterling maybe to play as a false-known or somebody to play as a false-known, and just use their pace, use their intricate skills to get in around the box and create something. - My point about that up the whole time, now obviously Sterling's not anything like Suarez and Catina would the same or Leland, but it's just a bit, it's just a bit more familiar than the Liverpool of last year. They're busy, you know, they'll cause havoc, they'll know the law, and just, it just makes more sense to me at the moment, to try that out. Because when you have stroke, it's the downscour goals. What's the full component playing them? Spying had it a few years ago, and they played the looks of Fabregas up top, because they're clever players, and scale for players, and they get chances, and Sterling is not a problem, they put the ball in it. - It's good to have them. - Just the one thing that I'd say, and I'm purely latest at Rodgers' feet, if you've got a system and you've got a stoil, you get the players to seal your system and stoil. He seemed to have gone away from that in the summer, and he bought players that didn't fit into really what he does, or what we did last season. Now whether he wanted to change it this year or don't know, but we've moved away from having pace, movement, running in behind teams, the boy in two center forwards, that won't do that, will never do that, and never have done it. - So you can't understand Brandon's thinking, I remember Hagen was chosen, we bought Lammer, that was the very reason, I know he said he was toward choice, and I said at the time, we needed to get another stoic at very, very late storage, just in case storage got injured. - Remedy. - And because, yeah, Remedy, or even like I said, whatever, the leaks of them, they've got the pace, and they'll run behind the founders, but we have to change everything we do now, because storage is out, because one player is out, everything that Brandon has based his team around, changes, you know, and when you look at the daunting game, is that the last preseason game it was? - It was. - Well, we were exiting that game, I thought we were out, and I remember after the game, I felt a lot better, I said, we might actually, but as soon as storage went out of 10, everything changes, our whole dynamic changes, and I later have Rogers are the transparent committee's feet, that you've bought two stoicers, that aren't fit to fill that player's boots, you know? - Fair, Carl, last word to yourself, and before you finish it, I think you want to plug control out there, please. - The saddest thing about yesterday, for me, I just thought I'd end on a positive as you. (laughing) The saddest thing about it for me is, obviously the criticism of Gerard and everything, I think it's, I said this all to it yesterday, it's a slow decline of his legacy as much as anything else, I don't want to think of Stephen Gerard as that man on Salah's part yesterday. It's a horrible way to end a career, the way that he's playing at the moment, or we obviously don't know if he's insisting that he's playing, or he's being hung out to drive by, the manager or anything like that, I think that was really sad, I don't want to see, I don't want to think about that Stephen Gerard, I don't want to think about all the great things he's done for us, and someone needs to make a decision. - Yep, fair enough, fair enough, and just before you go, I think you want to plug yourself only writing lately, I think given it's Christmas, given it's Christmas, they might be a certain book that might, you know? - Well, apparently, there's a book called "What Do You Do?" which is currently out on Kindle, and it was very briefly in the top 3,000 books in the UK. (laughing) - Excellent work. - 27 minutes. - Excellent work, excellent work. - Kyle, thanks a lot, man, thanks a lot for joining us, really appreciate it. - Thanks, Kyle, take care. (laughing) - You sent me three quid now, send it to me. (laughing) - Thanks, Kyle, take care. - Cheers, bye, bye, bye. - Cheers, bye, bye, bye. - Okay, let's preview Luigrette's versus Liverpool in the Champions League, and then we'll take a look forward to Liverpool against Stoke City. Right, the lineups that we've seen after the Burnabout showed that that team that Brendan put out there was not necessarily a statement of defiance, but rather it was a suspected show of indifference. Ironically, the competition that the Champions League offers our best chance of sort of saving the season, some sort of little bit of redemption from what seems to be a season that's dying out of tears. Qualification's still our hands. How likely Moly is that qualification in your estimation at the moment? - You have to say if I have a current farm, it's pretty much unlikely. - Yeah. - So we're going to qualify for this group. Okay, I know we have a Luigrette's coming up, and after that, we've bazzled at home. And as you said, it's still in our hands, but we show nothing to suggest that we can go out there and get to those two issues that we need to qualify. - Yeah, yeah. If we were to do that, what would it require in your estimation? - Well, it would require enough luck more than what we're giving you at the moment. I think it's got to require a change attack from Brinden. - A personnel as well, do you think? - Oh, well, a safety personnel, like the lives that have been in, like we saw it in case we had a majority, he brought in Tory, and Borini, and Chan, and other few players give him a good note. And what they got for that in the next game was to be dropped again. But that's not good enough. So it is to look at his team, see that they're not performing to the standards. That's tremendous. - Yeah, it's the right notes. You've got your chance. You've got your time, and you're out. They're suffering back in these guys, like Lake Torett, even Guiparene here on Lake Chan. - Yeah, well, that seems eminently reasonable. Neil Gray, you have money, money notes there. - I'm impressed. - On which we should really draw, including some unfortunate diagrams that-- - I hope the last time he had notes to remember. Wait. (laughing) - What? (laughing) - Anyway. - So, talk to me about the likelihood of a Liverpool win. Are you prepared only to talk about Ludagrass? Should I come back to your letter? - No. - Please talk to me about it. - What are we talking about again? - Where am I? (laughing) - Ludagrass. - What needs to happen in terms of Liverpool lineup? What does it need to look like to get the result that we need? - Well, like Molly was saying, like there needs to be a massive change in personnel in the force of 11. I suppose the back of our needs to change in terms of Moreno anyway. He needs to come back in. And Turret needs to come in as well for skirtle, I would have talked, 'cause just, or I'd love for him to listen as a tassel between the two of him. (laughing) - He is. - She doesn't like me. - But I suppose that Ray Chan has to come in, doesn't he? - Emory, chance. - I think he handles engine, is he? - I think he might be on this game. - Will he be all right? - Probably bad. - So, I'd have him and-- - Chan still starts, surely, does he? No? - Yeah, we're handling him in a midfield. I wouldn't play, Alan, because he's a sore head. (laughing) - Yeah. - He can't tell him me. - Yeah, yeah. - I'd play coots and Sterling, and then up front. Is bad with any steel engine, is he? - No, he shouldn't. - Doesn't matter, either. - He's at the bottom. - Lambert and Barini, I suppose, there. That's all we have, isn't it? - Yeah. - Well, that's as good as you're gonna get at the minute. - Lambrini, isn't that a drink? - That's, yeah. - It is a drink, isn't it? - It is a drink. - Yeah. - It is a drink. - Yeah, yeah. - Anyway, the point I was trying to make was, - What was the point you were trying to make? - Like, I probably know more than the rest, just put this in a pack, get away from us, get a noodle break. I can't wait to play us this week. They fancy they're gonna at least get it off and probably beat us. - Yeah. - I mean, that speaks volumes, doesn't it? And if we're honest, do we think we're gonna beat the noodle break and where's the, I don't think. - Is that, is that, and the fair enough, you're slumping back in your share with our fellas? Or any hope? Give me some hope, Andy. - It's just a reality, like, we're here. (laughing) - Just here, right there. - When you see someone else, it just hits home, like, I mean, they're not about to it, they're posing, they're, you know, they're, they're impressing in the champs lake, we're not. We're going out there, and every single team we play against looks like they want it more than us. And that's anyone in the Premier League. And then in the champs lake, there's probably not another team that wants it more than us. - Yeah. - There's Wednesday, or Tuesday, or whatever fucking day this. (laughing) - And yes. - So, like, it's, it's really, oh shit, like, you know what I mean. (laughing) - Just, I don't feel good about it. I really don't feel good about it. I mean, I wish I could add positivity, but like, if I say in some sort of evidence, - Yeah. - Then, yeah, but I don't, and I mean, like, if Roger's went and done a few things, where I'll suggest them, then I could probably, like, if you looked at the team and there's a few, there's a few where a few players dropped and a few players come in, we all want to see. Then you might go, hang on a minute, okay, okay. Well, it's not last, but just at the moment, as Molly says, like, the most likely outcome is, we're not gonna get three points. - Yeah, Phil, it feels a very, very bizarre situation that I'm relying on either you or Floyd, you'd help me out here when it comes to balancing things up again. (laughing) - What, what, what, what, I mean, look, people are gonna be listening to this and go, "Oh, sweet love with Jesus, you know, open the veins up time." (snoring) - Honestly, right, can we not see this as an opportunity to relaunch a season? - Okay, I'll put it this way. If we go, if he goes and says, "Fucker," and starts, the team you started in the Bernabelle, right? I think we have a chance to get in the results. Now, I think it'll be a horrible, scrappy affair that we'll just manage to sneak through, and that-- - But the first game. - Yeah, and that's probably the only way we're going to do it because, when you're in such a bad run of form, you don't suddenly become the Brazil 70 team all over again. You scrap out a scaldy 1-0 or 2-1 win. - In turn, there was-- - Well, I don't think it will, because if Brazil won't get a result, they will, they can easily top the group by just, you know, losing 1-0, I think it is in Anfield. So, what we need to win this game, this is a most win game for us now at this stage, and if we want to stay in the Champions League. And the, make wholesale changes, put, put your trust in the youth, put Toray back into the side, and say, "Look, what's--" (laughing) - You know, except you're on it. (laughing) - They're too independent statements there. (laughing) - I put it on, hang on, I'll put it on the side. - I'll stop there. - But no, see, that's what, that's what you do. And you say, this time, you say, if you perform as well as you did in the burnabout, and we get the result, you aren't out of that team. You start again against Stoke, and you know what, the rest of you is, take the finger out of your arse, you're sitting on the bench, and you'll be stay there until such time as you give a performance level, worthy of wearing the Liverpool shirt again, because at this moment in time, you're stinking the place out. - Who are the people that are stinking the place that they can't feature, that we don't want to see, or is it too obvious for words, fully? - When you're looking at Johnson, you're looking at Gerard. - Okay. - And the reason that I would say them, is these lads go out in the pitch, like it's their god-given wreath, that I'm gonna play football here. Now everyone that's played the game knows, you win your battles first, you win your war first, and then the football takes over. We go out on the pitch tank, and we own this pitch, we're just gonna stroke the wall around here, but they don't actually give an honesty of effort, they don't actually kind of sweat bullets for the team, or fucking bleed for the team, they don't, they're not interested in doing it. You see Johnson, he strolls around, Gerard strolls around, he wanna play nice Hollywood class, he wanna play a true wall, they're not interested in doing the dirty work, they don't wanna roll up the slaves, and put the hard graft in there, and that's what's missing from the team. So I think if we're playing in 11, and fuck me, these boys are gonna be all for lads. These are gonna be all for a person. - They have a chance of qualifying. - They have a chance of qualifying. - They have a chance of qualifying. - Even without that, this is their walk of fun, they live up hill in their backyard, like massive, massive scalp, and one thing they'd bring to the pitch, would be another of decent footballs with it, they will walk there and watch out for 90 minutes. Absolutely walk there and watch out. We need an 11 to match that. - And what's that look like for you? - It's difficult to pick out. You would definitely say that it's gotta be my quail. It's got to be tori. I think for his leadership qualities, I'd stick with love him, because the sack was out and scared the shit. And you put my reindel back in, a left wall, you go a can, Allen, and Henderson, if he's fit, I'm not sure he's fit enough. I would put can, sit and protect him that back for. I'd like a tango, I'd play Lelana, I'd play Sterling, and then I'd play Bala Tally. - That's 12. - Is it again, is it? (laughing) Take Lelana out and hit you. - Would you, is Lelana the one that you drop at it all? - It is easy. - And Bala Tally would start for you, if he can start. - It would be because he's a striker. - Yeah. - Well, he's an excuse for a striker. - Yeah. - For me, Lelana comes out out there, because he's not better than a gatino. It was more ignorant than summer. He's no greater than a gatino. - Okay. - So. - Okay. - Would you find yourself kind of an agreement with that, pretty much, you know, in terms of that matter? - I think what just says in the day, there's one, the one salient point that we're made with, there's no, Liverpool, there's no honesty of effort. I mean, that speaks volumes, doesn't I mean? That's a lack of probationalism and these guys are professionals. All they have to do every day is play football. And if there's, like, that's the most dominant element of hurt in the world, there's no honesty of effort. - Yeah. - I mean, that's just grateful. - Molly, would you agree with that statement that's, that's been echoed there between the two lads. Is it clear to say that, you know, there's, there's a few lads who seem to be shirking. Is that, is that, is that unfair? - No honesty of effort. I think we looked at Stephen Gerard from around the pitch. He looks like it's already given up on the season to me. - Yeah. - It's just kind of stolen up on that. The seasons of why both maybe next year's are here. - Yeah. - And that's, looks like he's attitude. And there's a couple of players like that in the team already who've already, as soon as they get on the pitch, they look like they've already been defeated. And that's that good enough. - And what, what would you like to see the team look like then? Would you have, would you have Ballotelli as a focal point? Would you have two up top? What would you have two up top? What way would you go with it? - I go to Diamonds. I've been here for a long time. - Yeah. - When I, I think it ends up tough with Ballotelli. You know, Ballotelli, he's not one of these guys who have played a lot and strike a role. He said guys like to hold up to the bottom and bring others into play. And so, like Sterling, he could do well playing off Ballotelli. But I, I'd bring some whole set changes. I really would. I know it's a big game and everything but, don't any of these guys deserve to wear the red shirt at the moment. I won't go to even bringing people like Brad Jones instead of being there. Look, don't talk to that degree. - Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So pretty radical shake up for you. Neil, talk to me about, and I'm going to come to Andy on this as well if you would. Little Gretz showed in Anfield that they're hardly a pushover. In fact, like, you know, I think Phil was saying earlier on, it was a tight game. - We were lucky enough to get the results. - We were lucky to get the results that we got. It was a late, late win and a scrappy one and not a fine performance. Now, a lot of that came down to actually interest and need the honesty of effort from those guys. - And my key on, in particular, win in the penalty. - Yeah. - In the 92nd limit. - Yeah. - When your right back is in the box and I'm buying the penalty from a, from a, from a nothing Ballotelli. - Well, it was because the look like the keeper was going to just watch it go out and play. - He is. He gets up the pitch. So, what, what, what can we say about, about little Gretz in terms of, of their strengths? - Well, there's, they're very strong at home is one thing I would say. They got, they, they were only beaten to on by Ray on the Ritterholm, which is, as we see in it, what, how we performed them in Ritterholm, which was quite an impressive score line anyway. They beat Ballot on one nil. And I did like it. And we were done, we were done over there in Ballot and Ballot aren't that particularly impressive. I know that, but they still got the results. And now, they were beaten for a nil away in Ballotelli. So, listen, I, listen, I'm not going to pretend to see him pretending on what you were a Bulgarian football, because I don't believe it. - Mm-hmm. - Believe it or not. - What's the point? - They drew one of us, Sophia. - What's on your paper? (laughing) - It's last week's shopping list. - I was looking at, I was looking at, there was some research earlier. - All right. - And it, what came across is the whole team has worked somewhere between five and ten million. - Okay. - I mean, that says it all, doesn't it? And like, it's just getting back the honesty of effort. I mean, if you have that, and you can add that to a little bit of know-how and a little bit of footballing, intelligence and technical ability, I mean, you can go a long way. I mean, that's the prerequisite. I would've taught for every professional football team. And now Liverpool are really poor at the minute. Don't, Ludagorets, do you think they're going to finish above us in the group, I think? - To Jesus. Okay. - No, but I mean, I just have to be realistic from how we're performing presently, and we're not impressed. - This is probably going to be the worst set of predictions we've ever gotten in terms of what people are going to go for. Molly, I'll start off with yourself. How do you see this game as Ludagorets going in terms of prediction, please, Mike? I think we're going to scrape the wind. If you have one little or two little wind over there. - Lovely. Okay. Okay. And who is that based on and dependent on changes for you, yeah? - No, I don't think Ludagorets. Yeah, they're not a bad side. They've got a bit of homework, desire, vote, and push. That's about it. I think we'll have too much room for what side goes on there. - No, what's that? Okay. Interesting. - It all boils down to what Rogers takes as kind of balls out of Steven Dred's gear bike. And George says, Roy gets the whole 20th to win system down and says, this is more 11. You're fucking starting. You play, well, put the fucking effort in. You keep the JJ for a second. Simple as that. None of the shit that you're coming in your home and out. - Yeah. - Or I think if he starts at 11, the 11 maybe, all he felt maybe go over it. I think, just say, listen, Ludagorets, you've got to walk your absolute notes off. From 90 minutes, that's the basic. - That's the start. - That's the minimum. That's the minimum last, okay. And then let the football take over after. I think we'll win. I think if he goes out, we'll do a sort of field of boys in the team. Johnson's, scared. Let's forget about it. - So call it from me, Dan. Call it from me what you think will happen in terms of... - I think you will go with a useful team. - And... - And I think we win. - Okay, Neil. - It was just like the lads were saying there. It depends on the team. He picks. And I... Listen, he has to change it. You know what I mean? - I think the best we'll do is get a draft, to be honest. - Really? - Okay. - 'Cause we're not scoring goals. I'm sure we get one goal. - Realistically, that would mean that we're going out to champions like... - Yeah. - Okay. Okay. - Sorry. - That's all right. - Can I just add that? - Please. - The whale champs like, I hope we go to Europe as well. I don't want to go into that. - Okay. That is a different conversation we'll get to that again. Ali. - Yeah. So it's not going to play the same team again because he would have had one eye. He would have had one eye on the European games one week. So it's going to be changes, okay? So if he makes the really changes... I think no matter who he brings in, really, man for man, we better individuals than them. - Yeah. - So it's then it's all down to the performance and who wants it more. They're going to want the loads. So let's just hope it's some of the performers from out Madrid, come in, and... - I've spoken for either the team for a change and possibly, possibly we can win. But I just... Just not feeling at the moment. - You're not feeling at the moment. - You're not feeling at the moment. - If I put you on the spot to call it, what do you think? - One one. - One one. Okay. So that's two draws and two victories. I think the morning might have the right idea. I think we might just have a little bit too much. Irrespective, even if it is a disappointing 11, I think we might just scrape through and it'll be all in the Basel game, and that might be even more terrifying. So I see a narrow win, Phil. - If we break up the worst partnership, centre-back partnership that we've ever had in the last 20 years, and we don't play the cheat at left-back or right-back or wherever he's going to play, right? - Let's have it. - Yeah. And then we will have a chance to win the game. - Okay. - Play those. Play those in the positions, whether he's right-back or left-back or wherever he is. Play, scare it, and love him, and we won't win. - Okay. - There's no point saying what the prediction is, because it's all going to rely on what the line up is. - You don't have the feeling one way or the other how he's going to go, because it's so hard to belittle him. - I think that he will go with that back-forth again, and I think we won't win. - Okay. - I definitely won't. Well, I think the only reason he lays Moreno out the weekend is because he's definitely playing midweek. - Yeah. - I just can't imagine why else he would lay Moreno out, which just makes so much sense that he's playing midweek. - But it doesn't mean that he doesn't switch a man back to way back. - Oh, I think it's at my goal's expense. - Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. You start him and you don't break him. - You take him and go. - No, no. You start him and you don't break up the centre-back partnership. All you're doing is moving a problem over the episode of the pitch. - Unfortunately, I agree with you there. I think he will probably stick with the two lads. I just hope the guard already comes in, but I just see him starting with him. - Well, that was nice and upbeat. [laughter] It's always nice to-- - Let's move on to Stoke at the weekend. - It's always nice to be looking forward to a Champions League night. You're full of anticipation and joy and happiness. Anyway, fuck that. Stoke City is next to look at. - A windy weekend at Stoke City. - Yes. Well, actually, they are at home. We are at home at the weekend. So Saturday afternoon, 3 o'clock kick-off, Stoke City, come to Liverpool. Is it all going to hinge-fill on what happens mid-week in terms of Liverpool that they see and they face? - I'm just relying back. [laughter] - Mate, you've got an editor. You don't need to do that. [laughter] - It saves me having the add-ons in special effects and later on. But now, again, if we go-- If he breaks it up and he does save to them, whoever plays well starts again the weekend, forgetting the whole rotation stuff. Just to make a point that you keep your jersey based on performance before we go back into a rotation piece, then we're playing a very different Stoke team. This isn't a Tony Pulisoid. Hughes has now moved away from that kick-a-ball football that they played. - Kick-a-ball? - Yeah. - It's a technical turn-off. - It's a technical turn-off. - It's a technical turn-off. - Carlos Kick-a-ball. - Well, I don't know. [laughter] But that's how we then go and get a result against them. If he goes and just reverts the type and puts it in, I don't see a result at the weekend. - Chases. You've gone straight to predictions. - Well, what am I going to say? So much is going through a line on what team he puts out at the weekend. We're back into the same position that we were previously. - Okay. Florida, Stoke City at the weekend. Would you be inclined to agree? Well, Phil's saying there in terms of the team needing to be just there on performance only. And let's get rid of this stupid, whatever it is, long-term planning team that he's been talking about and get rid of the old favourites. And do you think that's likely? - It's not likely. - Yeah. - It sure happens, but it's not likely. - Yeah. - I suspect a poxie-nilla draw, because I've been to tilt him against all garbage, Phil's asleep in the cup that day. I keep reminding him to do terrific games. I've seen an awful, awful, awful game for Saturday because I do think we regret the type. - Yeah. - And even Wednesday, I don't know what we just talked about. I don't think he's going to pick what he thinks is a stronger story because this is a more swing game for him. - Yeah. - That's what worries me, too. - And here's a more swing game. - Yeah. - His best side is what played in Saturday, which is for England. - Yeah, yeah. - So, I think from Saturday, it's going to be just an awful, an awful game. - Well, what about our capacity? Surely, I mean, like, yeah, okay, look, everything goes out the window lately, because the form is so awful. But Stoke City, like Palace, I've been on a shitty enough run. Like, you know, if you're ever going to turn it around, it's at home against these fucking Shirley. - Again, though, like Palace, the roofer. - Yeah. - The only thing to beat Liverpool is just be over a little bit more than them. Just want a little bit more than them. And if you've got, if you bring seven eight players out in the field that want it more than you, we've got four or four of that roofer. You're going to get torn over somewhere, you know? - That's the pattern there, listen. - Yeah, it's like, this is unreal, isn't it? I'm sort of pressed. - Yeah. - Honestly, like, we're just going around the table, just saying Liverpool are shit, we're not going to win. I mean, that's all we're saying, isn't it? - Yeah. - It's just like, whatever I said for little guys, just apply that to Stoke, and there you go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Molly, I use the presses every in the room here, man. - Yeah, I'll kind of need and Stoke are basically the load credits and the batteries, aren't they? - Yeah, yeah. - You know, it's not one of those games, whatever sort of logic ends, load the credits. If they do the job, if he doesn't make the changes that we think he's going to make. I hope he sticks with him for Stoke. At least gives him a chance to show that they are, that's something better than what we have out at the moment. - Yeah, yeah. - The problem you have with Stoke is that if you consider what they're sent to back Zagora, and you consider the type of forwards that he's played consistently through the season. - That's the centre forwards that they want to play against. What they don't want is really fast, nippy centre forwards. You're going to play off the shoulder and look for balls in behind them. They're happy to front up to strong physical forwards, who, you know, who they can turn and face away from goal, because they're not going to pose a threat to them. And when we played against Stoke last year, the, you know, what we were able to do, especially when we played them there, was, you know, I think it was the 3-2 win that they did. - That was a mike game. - Yeah. - I know we got two very late goals in it. - Yeah, your man, the left-back score, at least the circle score, the mad goal to open up the deflection. And then the story came off the bench and changed the game for us. But what we were able to do then was get into commandos and stretch them. You know, they're just going to be, they're going to see bad. They're not going to, they're not going to open themselves up to a quick counter attack if we're playing a strong physical forward with one up top. And you know, at some stage, you just have to do something radically. Something radically different. You have to change the focus of the way we're attacking them. We haven't changed, we haven't once changed the way we've attacked the season with the exception of the sports game. And unless you change that against Stoke, they're going to happily either put the 2-centre backs up against Lambert or the 2-centre backs up against Ballotelli. And at some stage, we just have to change it. You know, and for me, it's impossible to think that he can't change this up at this stage because you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. Like he has been there. Like he has been there. And then, and then expect that we're going to, that suddenly the win is going to come from somewhere and everything suddenly changes, changes it around. Going back to what we said, you know, change it up, give them something to think, just give teams something different to think about. Because at this moment in time, they don't even have to do their homework. They don't have to do their homework and Liverpool. They know exactly what they have to do because they're going to face the exact same thing week out. No movement up to up. No thing around it. You know, I know we sound a bit down. Like you can't just sit around and go, this is all going to be OK. Yeah, it's not going to be OK. That's not going to be OK. No, it's not going to be OK. No, it's not going to be OK. No, it's not going to be OK. No, it's not going to be OK. No matter what's been, you try and put it there. It's impossible. We just talk and show you to try and put positives on and predict that we're on. That's fair, yeah. That's fair. Blitzdom. Yeah. Like, I just can't, if it goes the way I'm expecting midweek, I just can't imagine how bad I'm feeling it's going to be at the weekend. The groans and the lack of atmosphere. And it's just gone through the team. I mean, the players have to give their fans up. The fans have to give the players up. But it's just a really, really dark time at the moment. But if Roger changed up midweek and they do put on an impressive performance and they win things that pericope would be, and he does try and change something. As I said earlier on, the Palace game was a bit of a torn up point for me when they start going to believe unless they would start to change things. But if you don't want to, like, what I feel you should do, and just stop playing with the destroy guys on their own, the Don'ts Gargalls, and put three busy fellas up front. They couldn't agree more with Phil. It's exactly what Stalk want. It's deep balls coming in high. Yeah. Straight and long ball. And then you just know there's a mistake or two at the back and they be ready to pounce. Yeah. I mean, it isn't, while there's gone through a bit of a spell, the mould. That's me always. And... You should have your own ball, John. You might have your own. It's a favourite to do these things to solve. That's, yeah. I'm only... 100, Neil. Molly, do you feel like there's any justification to... I feel like I should be trying to force some sort of positive agenda through here. And I can't really. I'm not in agreement with the lads. It's really hard to kind of even have the usual, you know, fuck this, we're Liverpool, et cetera. Do you feel the same, or am I alone in that? There's no positives to it. It really isn't like, as Phil said earlier on, we're trying to say anything again and again, and we're expecting different results. Well, that's the definition of its entity, as Einstein said. You know, if you're going to try to say anything's again and again again, you're going to have to... The same results are going to happen again and again and again. So we need to change things up. I mean, if there is any positive to be heard, is that after this run that we've heard, that surely now Roger's going to look at it and go, "I'm going to have to change something." So if you're going to take any positive, is that the run has been so bad that we need to change it? Yeah, yeah. Look, the only thing that makes me nervous about that is I thought, after the last international break, that would happen. And I thought, after the one just come by, that would happen and yeah, it hasn't. So anyway, look, talk to me. Actually, just now you say that wasn't it? Wasn't the weekend of course when Roger's really spoke about his job being, you know, under... It's just been the limits. Yeah. You pay well, he's been kind of, as so clear, as Paul's, it was a Liverpool press conference, so he wasn't going to be asked blatantly, but he did kind of talk about it for a second. So maybe now he's saying, "Okay, well, I'd better do something drastic here because order was the job." I mean, it is a kind of a last trial with the Deutsche now. Yeah, well, I hope you're right. I'm only starting off with a prediction for the weekend against lockdown, please, mate. Well, that's a dry trip, quite hard. A draw, okay, slowly. A draw as well, yeah. A draw as well, how do you think, Neil? It's a funny whole game, isn't it? No draw. A draw as well. This is fucking one, okay, Andy. I'm going to go with a win. Yeah. The only reason is, you just can't keep losing games. Eventually, even the shit as the teams, you know, eventually just win. You know, and, like, look, it's still going great. So you have two poor teams playing each other, and I think maybe just a hard advantage or something's just going to go away, and we're even going to penalty. We get a penalty, and it's got to go and win the game. Yeah, so two won. You know the way when we used to be going through a rocky patch, and you'd just be clawing at results, and you'd come across a team, and it'd be like, fucking, a lot of averages. They have more nages. They're going to beat us, aren't they? We are now the team who, under a lot of averages, like Andy says, has to win, so I see a win. I think it'll probably be narrow enough. Well, I think it'll be windy. Fucking great. Prediction's over. You are listening to Trippers Chat. Let's do this. I'm so sorry. Awesome. Oh, I'm so psyched for this. Yeah. Guy. Okay. You guys. You guys. First question that we are going to deal with on Trippers Chat. First question, we're going to do Trippers Chat. Get the fucking buttons out. It is Alan Finney. Molly, I'm actually going to come to you first on this one, mate, because Alan's wondering, you know, Thanksgiving is coming up, or maybe it's just going to pass. I'm not really 100%. You can invite three people for Thanksgiving dinner. They can be dead. I don't know how that works. Or they can be alive. How would you worth that, Molly? Well, I said it wouldn't be gone, which is the old ridges I've brought to Malcolm X, Wendy, and all these people, like this. I would go with Sydney Farley. Right. Johnny Cash. Right. I'd put it first. And I would rock my famous Triple B for the day. Yeah. What's that now? It's a burgers, buns, and beer. Yeah, very nice. Very nice. And you reckon that would be a good company for that particular sort of a swari. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. There's buns and beer. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Johnny Cash. Farley, who was like Mr. Last one, Will Ferrell, was it? Yeah. Very nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I think that works very well as a swari. Anyone else got any kind of gatherings they'd like? Or who would you, anyone even just a random shed for who you'd have? Um. Over. On a depressing note. Oh, for fuck's sake. No, I did write something down. Go on. Lee, Harvey, and Oswald. Yeah. No, they ever bought me an Orson Welles as well. That kind of makes me sound Italian. Yeah. That's a rainy man. See, what do you think? Director of Citizen Kane and he had quite an influential-- The way you're feeling at the moment. Huh? Oh, yeah, go on. Oh, depressed about the moment. Yeah. You have to have three people. You're really, really, despoys in this world. Yeah. 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Next one off-- - Under siege. - Oh yeah, okay, there you go. - Fuck's sake, Trevor. - Have you not watched the filmography after that? - No, I haven't, man. - No, I haven't there. I was watching remote control, that DVD gave me. Okay, next one up is from Callie, and she is wondering which superhero would you choose to play, or to replace, excuse me, Dejan Lovren in the first 11, and help us then as a result. And he sheds for this, what superhero could be-- - The Crimson Bolt. - Oh, fucking hell. Is he real, is he? 'Cause you could be just bullshitting me now. - No, I mean, I've never seen the film super. - Oh, hang on, nay, I've seen a little bit of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's-- - If you are known on some superhero, with a fucking big wrench. (laughing) - Where does he keep his wrench from? - Why don't you-- - He walks around me. - I'm the one fucking messes on the pitch, smash across the fucking head with the wrench. (laughing) - You know, he crooms in the boat. - You shut up crime, so he'll be a shut up Johnson. - Smash. (laughing) - Shut up, scat, we'll smash. (laughing) - That's absolutely fantastic. Right, we're not gonna be that. Joe Pepper has a very divisive question based on religion, Moly, which I know you'd be up for taking. He's one of what religion is the worst. Be careful, Airfala. - I probably have to say the Prince Philip movement. - Oh yeah, what the hell is that? (laughing) - Well, seriously, it's a religion of enjoyment of that tool, I think it is, where the thing that Prince Philip is, God. (laughing) - That's damn listening, it's so funny. (laughing) - Jesus, yeah, I can get into this. - The zoo's even, yep, Gordon. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know, Prince Philip's a guy, I don't know, I'm not having that. - That's only fair, I think. Next one up is from Adeeb Sayeed, and Adeeb is wondering which member of the bunker crew is the most metrosexual. - But, Stavo Tinks, he is. - Stavo is, in what way would Stavo be metrosexual? Is it the good line he has in moisturizers? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, he has a bit more hot as well. - Yeah, I'd say he's a fan of Botox. - Would Stavo be into the Botox? - He gets the water up the arse. (laughing) - For what sake? - Yeah. - A colonic irrigation, yes he does, yeah. (laughing) Okay, okay, so Stavo, it is? - No, I think it's here, it's right. - Ah, for what sake. - Do you get the water up the arse? (laughing) - Literally. (laughing) - Whit water. - Right, and the last one then is from-- - You'd love to be the bounce metrosexual. - I'd love to be what? The most metrosexual that was-- - Not really, no. - You would, yeah. - Why would I love to be the most-- - You've always got the hats on and everything. - Yeah, the photo. - And the photo next, man. - Yeah, yeah. - I'd never worn a polo neck in me life, you fuckers. I've a lot of scarves, but I never wear a polo neck. - Are you a polo neck on the last one or two? - I did in my fucking hood. - Oh no, you had a hood, you did. - Yeah, there was holes in your sleeves where your toes were. (laughing) - That's just ridiculous. - And, and, yeah, what was this time with the holes and the sleeves? - It's just handy. (laughing) Right, literally. Last question. - There's no knee glows. I can stick my fingers into the sleeves. - Yeah, it's good, right? - Okay, next one is for you, Molly, it's from proper pin on Twitter, and she's wondering what is the worst Christmas present that you ever got? - Well, when I was a kid, my family didn't have a whole lot of money, so one year, I just asked for something to wear and something to play with. So I got some trousers with my pockets cut out. (laughing) - Did I have a look back to you? (laughing) - Still has them. (laughing) - Your favorite pants, Molly, yeah? You're a good Sunday pants. (laughing) Right, very good, very good. Anyone else got any shit Christmas presents before you got a lot? - I got a save for Christmas ones. - A fucking save. (laughing) - You still have money on your homebie. - And egg cups as well. - Egg cups. - And a half of that. - No, seriously. - You got a save when you opened it and there was egg cups in it. - No, you have to bowl the save and everything. You're meant to set it in concrete and shit, like, or put it behind a painting. (laughing) - When you were a kid? (laughing) - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, no, last year. (laughing) - Any of us, honey? - Well? - Oh yeah, we've got a lot of presents. (laughing) - All right then, we come straight to you for this next one from Paul, this is the finishes of and the time travel machine. Where would you go? What'd you stay there when you got there? - Well, serious answer is just the end of this season. - Why would you want to go to the end just to get past it? - Just to get past it, just to just kill me at the moment. (laughing) - That's fair enough. - Yeah, I mean, like, I just can't, just can't function at the moment. (laughing) - So you just want to go to the end of this season. - That's practical, that's practical. - And then just move on from there. - Move on, Neil. - No, I'm quite happy to be late for an hour, can I? - Ah yeah. - Yeah, everything is concrete. - Thanks for the cooperation, Neil. - Come on. (laughing) - I can pull back a team of a few people and they're just like, "No, it's not, Neil." (laughing) - Anyway, so you can go forward and back. - Yeah, this is your kind of thing, fella. - Yeah, man, I've got a thousand years into the future. - Just to see what it's like. - See what, like what? - Would you take a pond? - Just to see, we're probably all dead. - That's what, well, we are all dead. - Yeah, we're all dead. - You know, do you want to see what it is probably wiped out and then I can find out if we ever won the league again. (laughing) - Before he blocks it, no, the polka. - You've never had one. (laughing) - So Sean said you'd never come back. - How was Johnson still in that team? (laughing) - Talkin' to her. (laughing) - Oh, God, right, we're done. - We finished with some admin. I will start with our weekly show for our kind host, Astro Park, book your pitch time at Astro Park.ie. On our website, LFCDaytrippers.com, you can find a lot of really good articles and some fine writers and link directly to our show there. Your day trippers tonight were Neil Gray, Carl Carback, Moly, Andy Young, Deimo Floyd, Phil Casey, on Myself Trev Denny. 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Right so the disaster that was Crystal Palace must be dissected. Joining us tonight to fondly reminisce on the shitefest pig parade of a side on sunday is twitters @thecenci aka author Karl Coppack. No punches are pulled or stones left unturned. In fact the stones are hurled at those shitehawks who continually let the side down. We then tried to look at Ludogorets and Stoke with the returning Anfield Mole aka @moley_lfcdt. Like all Irish wakes we round out having a laugh at someones expense while talking cabbage. From wanting to the Crimson Bolt on the team to “sort” things out or whos our most metrosexual tripper.
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