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Don't never start it if you can't stop. Do it, do it again. Do it. We should never have started, now we can't stop. It's the day trippers. [Music] We last spoke the feverish optimism of your host has taken a good pacing from a hellish combination of Real Madrid, Liverpool's calmly defending and are a lot toothless attacking. Also Steve Bruce's whole had a bit of an effect too. Comprehensive and humiliating defeat followed by the intense frustration of the nail nail draw against whole were mitigated somewhat by last night's absurdly late cup win over Swansea, courtesy of the much maligned Mario Balotelli and Dejan Lovren. It's a confusing time to be a red man and joining me in the bunker tonight are Andy Thamis, Neil Gray, Phil Casey. We're also going to be joined for some trippers chats by Vine Moistro Christian von Strangare. Okay, let's look at the most recent Liverpool activity as a kind of a bunch of matches. We'll look at it in terms of themes, I suppose, instead of individual matches because there's a little bit too much to do there. We'll start off by having a look at something a little bit more positive than some of the other things we're going to look at. That is the youth that's coming through about Anfield. A wonderful win for the kids against Real Madrid of late Phil. Did you manage to say any of that? No. You have stitched me up here, you fucker. No, no, no. I think what gets overlooked an awful lot is, you know, when we talk about youth, everyone's looking at the 21s and the reserves and the whole. Who are they? There seems to be a production line of talent coming through there. You know, the looks of Sergio Canos and Cherville, the new lads coming in. And you've got a lot of volume in that alone who's really done well for Derby this year. It's Sinclair. And Sinclair as well. And look, even Yazal is coming back from the crucial ligament in the show. But I think what gets overlooked is we do tend to forget the youth that's in the force team. And we do, when looking back at the matches and the people who perform well over the last three or so games, you're looking at Cuteño, who's only a kid in relative terms. He's only 20 like, you know what I mean? You're looking at Sterling again, who's not even 20 yet. You're looking down at the two fullbacks and it's Moreno and Manquay. Again, Manquay was only 20. You know, we should be celebrating the fact that the really positive points that's coming out of the season are stemming from the young kids who are really stepping up to the market and making their mark on it. Even Henderson. Look, Henderson is a baby in sentiment field terms. You know, Emery Chan, 21. You know what I mean? This is now becoming the backbone of our team. It's a team that's been built with such young players and such good young players as well. You know, it's not going to take much additions to them to really make this a very strong team in depth. And look at storage. Storage is not an old player either. You know, you're looking at a very, very young core of an exceptionally good elite bunch of talent there. And then if we look at where the issues have been through the season, it's been more around the more experienced players than it has been around these younger players. Like the ones that you would have expected to step up and shown leadership and shown everything on the pitch and not the ones that have been doing. We should be celebrating the look in a Coutinho coming back into form as he did. You know, we saw it against Swansea. He was just everywhere in the pitch. Everything that was happening was coming through him. When he comes on against Hall, the whole shape of the team changes. Everything, the pace in the game goes up again. He's going boy players. Even the chance at the end, it's orchestrated from Coutinho. You look at Moreno. We've been waxing lyrical about this kid who's come in as a left back and providing such back and very down the left hand side. He's a kid. You know, he's in a new league. Manquiao, people are talking about, again, last night, he was arguably the best player on the pitch. The amount of ground he covers, the weight he provides in the team, the defensive stability he gives down the right flank, you know, these are really, really good signs for the future in terms of what we have. They're shown they're common true and a really good right as well. And that's without going into the kids that are playing the likes of Real Madrid and beating them, you know, and the other stuff that's common true, the likes of wisdom and stuff and he is, is that fair enough to say, like, I mean, I've just seen him feeling that Phil's going to come back to one or two younger people that mightn't be so impressive later on. But, but let's just talk about the upside. Is that fair point that, you know, given the comparative view to these kids, we've relied on them heavily and they have pretty much, you know, come up Trump's. Yeah, it's funny enough we, like, we all are aware how young the team is and yet nobody for a static excuse for when the team doesn't perform. Like, you know, the team needs to be cut some slack every so often, especially when they're so young. An average age, like, quite often, 23, 24, you know. And so, yeah, like, you can't expect miracles out. And when you're doing a job on the cheap, like, Liverpool effectively are, you know, we're not trying money around. Rogers is trying to get the best of young players and develop a team. Look, this, this is a very, very young core in the team. And in a way, you might think to yourself, you know, you need experience in the goalkeeper position. I prefer to see experience centre backs because I think a centre back really only comes into his game about 26, 27. And if you're looking at setting up a Liverpool side and you want that stability in there and you want your team based around you to space and the technical ability that Dave was talking about, that's where you need to lock in the experience. And, you know, in a way, you say, you do need an experienced midfielder in there with the likes of Henderson and stuff like that. Just every now and then to take the kill of the game, you know, take control of it. Show these lads that it's not always 100 miles an hour. When you earn in a fun position that you can just take your foot, kill the game, move it around a whole lot. And similarly, you don't want your centre backs panicking when you're going into the last 10 minutes of the game because the last thing you need is the centre backs being fearful of a team chowling a chowling haymakers at them as it come into the last three minutes. And that's where you need the experience. The same with the goalkeeper. The goalkeeper needs to be calm and composed. And a lot of the conversations that are going around with the goalkeeper, people are talking about bringing in 19, 20-year-olds. And I've said it on Twitter as well. I said, we shouldn't be considering a goalkeeper under the age of 24/25 because he needs to have at least 150, 200 appearances, senior appearances under his belt to come into Liverpool to deal with the pressure that he's going to be under when he comes in and takes it. Even Raina, when he came in, he'd had a long stint at Villarreal. He played Champions League and he was starting to show that level of ability. So look, it's something that we should be celebrating. It's something that's getting glossed over an awful lot because of the way results haven't been great. We haven't been scoring goals. But the form of these kids is fucking phenomenal. And if we can get the other bits clicking in the actual team, we've got a really, really, really strong core of young players that can do a job overs for the next four over six years. And that's why, instead of just going straight into the issues that has been apparent in the games, it's just time to take a step back and just recognise the strength that is actually in that sort. Add goals into it and we'll be going again. Well, it's always nice to have your positivity at the start of a funny podcast. And now! This is the shit I get. Andy, a lot of foreshadowing there by Dave and Phil about the defence and talking about it in a roundabout fashion. One of the, comparatively useful people we were chatting about, Darius DeShan Lovren, who's not really been excelling since he joined. Another comparatively young for a goalkeeper person is Simon Mineo. Just let me finish my point, you absolute. But how do you explain a way, the form of more experienced lads? The likes of Dan Johnson, the likes of Martin Scow, the likes of Joseph Enrique, who just seemed to have forgotten how to defend. Well, they're not forgotten. Have they been out of the fan before? Realistically. Johnson's chances slowed up. What he had gone from was his attacking part of his game, which was just gone now. He's not as composed on the ball as he used to. Scared was always hot and cold. Yeah. Yeah. No, he got a C's now and then he didn't get a C's now and then he'd make mistakes here and there. And Enrique, no, he's never, never been a very composed player. So they're not Roger's players. And I mean, they'd be shown the door eventually and replaced with what I suppose Roger's feels is, you know, his style of player. And so far, his style of player is loving, who isn't really, you know, coming through either. So it's a difficult, it's a difficult one. But it's going to take, it's going to take time, you know, David. And he's about two years in the job and he still hasn't really developed the back for, but his focus is certainly on the front end of the pitch, which isn't half bad, you know, when you consider what he's developing from midfield up. Well, just when we tell you to sell a pair of full backs, Glenn comes back into the rotation and he seems to be Roger's man. Yeah. So you're looking at him keeping at least a two set of hands together. I don't think he's Roger's man at all. I think it's just. Well, he seems to be a favorite only for last year. Yeah, but he's, but you can see Roger's logic in it in a lot ways. Like this, there's people who'll defend Johnson to the hilt on Twitter or whatever. And although I don't, I don't believe he should be in the team yourself. You can see a lot of valid points. Like he does have the experience and Mike Rilo's played. Fuck all the games really, you know, in his, in a short career. You wouldn't know what to watch him perform. No, he certainly wouldn't. He's been, he's been absolutely brilliant and, you know, he's, he looks to me like a really, little Liverpool toy player. You know, his, his work ethic, ethic, his class. And, you know, he's, he's no, no mess. And, you know, he's just, he's just a really, really toy player. And I think as toying goes on, Roger Johnson's just going to be fizzled out. It's definitely his last say. He's not the club. But Roger's, I just think he fails that maybe Mike Rilo can learn a little bit from Johnson on the pitch as well. You know, there's, there's, there's still, he's still a half decent player. Yeah, you know, like you, you have to sit back and cut away it up from Roger's point of view. Like he's, he's held responsibility there. He's the manager of the club and, you know, he's not going, he does want to run this fellow, this prospect, you know, straight away. Yeah, fair enough. Neil, that's, that's actually, you know, when you think about it that way and being a little bit more sympathetic than manager, because the easiest thing in the world to do, to hack the back off of my guess. But, I mean, one man who seems to be his go-to guy, his central, he's, he's a good guy. The central core for that central, central defense is, is, is Dejan Lovren. And let's be honest, has he played one entirely excellent match? Absolutely not, though. You know. No, he's been really poor. He has? Okay, brilliant. I'll come to you in a minute, Dave, to talk about that. So, but listen, if we can look at, if we can take what we're nine games in, in the league, isn't it? Yeah. If we take that as a, if we just step back and have a look at that and assess him over the fourth nine games, he's been really poor. And maybe really poor is a little bit strong. He's certainly not lived up to the standard that we would expect it. I mean, after the build-up he got from particularly from category Neville down there in the analysis over the last season, they said he's going to be the next best thing I'd said to have in the Premier League. He certainly hasn't lived up to that. He was supposed to bring in, he was supposed to be in a figure of authority. And he's certainly not that either. But listen, I think it's very, I think it's very hard to completely damn the back for without speaking about the goalkeeper. For me, they operate as a unit. You can't just criticize one element of the Paul back for as a back for without talking about the goalkeeper. Okay, well, I'll tell you what. We will come back to something in there because I do want to speak about them. I know you have something you want to say about them as well. But maybe give me a counterpoint there to my introduction to him that you think he's done well on occasion. Well, you said he had one good game, and he has. Right. He's played well. He played well against Southampton. He was good against Tottenham. He was good for the two games. Did you know that he started very, very dodgyly against Southampton? He grew into the game, but he's done that in a few times. Okay. I mean, that's what all players do. I mean, you know, how many players are consistently excellent for 90 minutes? Look, I feel like I'm the last person in the room in the lover and fan club, but I got to turn the lights off. Like, you know, I'm not... His hand is hand on the switch. Yeah. I'm not belligerent. It's a dimmer switch. It's been turned down. I feel like I talk about the same things after every game. I'm not belligerently just saying just because I don't want to say that I'm wrong. It's like I'm wrong about loads of stuff. Like, you know, but I... Give us some examples of what you're wrong. It's in my article. Well, I'll give you one example. I said that Costa would flop a chassis. So there's an example. I said, "In on this part, I said I didn't think Costa would make an impact a chassis." So there we go. I mean, you know, that's going well. I said, "We shouldn't have signed Friday out because we have a Coutinho." So, you know, you say these things because nobody knows the fuck all about football. So the thing about... See, that's what you're up to. Thanks for listening. Let me come back to number. He hasn't been great. But he's 24, right? He has, I don't think, played two games consecutively with the same back four. Yeah, that's a massive point. He's done that at all. I think that his confidence is low and I think that he has the jump from being in Southampton's back four to Liverpool's back four as being much tougher than he thought it was going to be. And he's an arrogant guy, right? He's a very confident guy and I think he has found that really, really difficult. I think that it's one of the downsides of signing players at centre back to Phil's point earlier who, or goalkeeper who are under 25, is that they have mistakes in them. They have too many mistakes in them. And the question for Liverpool is going to be, do those mistakes go as he gets more confident than as he grows more used to the players he's playing with and the way Rodgers wants to play? I think that in his time in, certainly in his time in Southampton, he's shown enough evidence to be capable of that. And I think he's shown it in glimpses playing for Liverpool. So after 10 games of his Liverpool career, I'm not going to sit here and say that A, he has never played well because he has and B, that he will never play well because I think he will. But no one knows. He has a lot of things going on around him and he was poor last night for the goal. You know, that's a mistake. But for the rest of the 90 minutes that he played, I thought he actually played OK. And I thought he played well against Hull, I thought he played well against Tottenham, I think he plays better with soccer, I think he plays better with Tory. So it's not that I am belligerently defending him and I think that he's the next back and bow. I don't think that. I like a lot of things that he's trying to do. I like the way that I think we would defend if we got all the defenders to do what he's trying to do. If that sounds mad. I think I'd like that. But I recognise that he's struggling and that, but right now, it's like the entire fan base has got love run on player cam for every game. And it's just everything he does wrong. It's like there's another example. Every still of every chance that gets created is contorted and twisted so that he looks out of position. There's a snap of him looking the other way. I think the fucking Sabruda film from the Kennedy assassination, which is watching it over and over again back and to the left, back and to the left, trying to prove that love run is at a position. What about this idea? What do you think it's a ridiculous concept or not? We have to deal with it because people are talking about it all the time. What about this idea of a specific coach for the defense? Shouldn't that be something Rogers can do on his own, like a lot of other managers? Or should it be something that he should employ a specific person for, given the failings? I couldn't believe there wasn't. Somebody suggests that they should bring in a defensive coach or say, "Shoot for copic horses in a defensive coach." That's a baffling to me actually. There is a defensive coach. Pasco is the defensive coach. Pasco is in charge of the defense. Yeah, okay. It's a play center back. Pasco is a winger. Whether we think Pasco is in charge of the defense. Whether we think that he's good at doing that. It's not really good. There's a different chance of fucking problem. No, obviously it is. You can't split the team into two. I think there's a lot of them. You can't. You can't. The goalkeeper heads off at certain portions of training with his goalkeeper and coach. I mean, there is a specific training. They're not just having games before. They saw it all day together. The whole method that Rogers has brought into training does split the group enough. It's all tailored. The goalkeeper coach is coaching the goalkeeper to play in an overarching vision. The Rogers is outlined. Same as the defense. So Rogers is saying to the defensive coach, and I think this needs to be tweaked. I just don't think the solution is a new person doing that job. I think there needs to be a new approach to how we play. But he says to Pasco, then, "Go and coach the defenders." What I wanted to coach him on is to bring the ball out, to look for the past, split, to get the ball off the goalkeeper. I understand. That's Rogers' philosophy, and he's going to oversee the whole lot. But you're bringing the defensive coach who's responsible for delivering that type of training and having the players understand what they're supposed to do. It's a huge role, having somebody, in my opinion, specifically dedicated to certain areas of this. It's not just done, how would it link the rope, getting the lads? There's more to it than that. Milan went and poached Fiorentina's set-piece coach. There you go. Now, that's what they did this season. To improve themselves defensively and offensively. I think, I don't know how to say something there for a second. It's a defensive coach, Pasco is it whoever it is. I think the problem is a little bit more fundamental than that. We have defenders who don't have the inherent sense to sense when there is danger. I mean, that's a problem. Like an attacker senses when there's a chance it's possible. And our lads don't seem to realise when there's danger of it. We need to get the last in space, Rob. Danger! Danger! Oh, but listen, it's a problem. Instead of what you read, we lift the rope on behind the gold. Danger of Robinson's danger! No, but they... Yeah, it's a very fucking funny. No, but they don't. I mean, you said love and give up a chance again. Solder's schedule, solder's cycle. Solder's Johnson when he plays, solder's Enrique. Does a massive flarder and the goalkeeper shit? So, if your defenders are going to give up a chance every game. Like, you want your said two said the half to give seven to eight out of ten every game. Listen, listen. What I'm saying to this book, I agree in a sense that we need specific coaching, right? Now, come on. Dave has a point that if Rogers has a point that has a defensive coach there, or has somebody coaching the defense, then he has it. Now, the decision falls back to Rogers. Do I think the fella that's doing that job is he good enough, right? So, look, there's no, we don't know, right? Nobody knows. We can only imagine what's going on in the pitch. Now, it could be that they're not actually carrying out what they're doing in training. I don't know how the pitch is that we would see in training. Before our whole game would make you wonder what they're doing in training, right? But, like, I go back to the bit about Milan, Pope and Florentine as a set-piece coach. They have somebody specifically that deals with set-pieces. Whose job is to formulate different variations on set-pieces and attacking sense, and also to analyze the opposition set-pieces and make sure the defensive defense on set-pieces, on set-pieces defending is set up to specifically to counter the type of set-pieces that they play. And the important thing is that Rogers embraces this type of analysis in his game, right? So, you'd be hoping that if the guys aren't good enough, he must be looking at and saying, "Well, I need to improve on that." And where he mightn't do mid-season, he might say, right, there's no point doing it mid-season. I'd rather wait to get to the end of the season and I'll bring somebody in then. A bit like what they've done in the academy where they refreshed at the end of the season as opposed to mid-season because then you're bringing in a whole load of new ideas and then starting off something else mid-season when Rogers themselves says they don't have the coaching time because of the running games that they have back on back. But I do think there's merit in saying, "Is our defensive coach in good enough?" And I think if we get to the end of the season, or even a mid-season break or whatever it is, right, and the personnel changes that he's tried to implement don't work, and specifically love run, right? Let's be honest about it. If love run doesn't work, and we talked about this, out of all the transfers we've done by January, either love run and battle tally needs to work. If neither of those work, then we're going to have a tough season, right? Because they're big, you know, spine of the team sign it. But let me give you a specific example of where I think, just bring it in, for example, Tony Purilis to sort out the defense, doesn't work. Love run, right? When he wins a header, but bear with me. But when he wins a header, right, and skirt. A forward-moving header. Forward-moving header. And I'm talking specifically about the last two games because I think the Madrid was a real low point and there seems to have been a collective effort to try and be a bit more solid after Madrid, right? When they win the header on their defensive line, the header always goes into midfield. Always goes, right? Whereas if you're a defensive-minded coach, if you're Tony Purilis, the header goes out. It goes out of bounds. It goes towards the byline to go out for a throw-in. So this is where I think that's someone saying, "I want my defense to land the ball in play because I think we'll counter and I think we'll score from a counter attack." Versus someone who doesn't think, "I want the ball in play to counter. I just want to clear my lines." That's why you can't just drop in someone whose expertise is keeping a clean sheet. Because Roger's primary objective isn't just to keep a clean sheet. It's to keep a clean sheet while transitioning into scoring goals. Yeah, but that's when your choice comes. And I agree on the choice that they will come up with where he has to say, "The conceding 57 goals in a season are 55 goals or 50 goals or 45 goals. When I've spent all this money on the defense, something is wrong, I just don't think that doing that right now when he's not ready to do it and dropping someone in whose only expertise is clearing your lines is the right thing to do." Because it's a more cohesive strategy. Listen, I agree with the point. But I do think that there is definitely a question to be asked now at this point in time to say, "Is air-defensive culture good enough?" And if it's not, then you make changes. Well, that question is always going to be asked until we start defending them well. Yeah, but the convergence is one of those managers who, and you hear it a lot now, if we can see the goal and it's from a basic era, I'm going to take responsibility. Because it's so -- it's so -- a core is so often, and it's so apparent that the same mistakes are happening over and over again. So the players aren't getting bollicked for it. Because you can be sure if Johnson said that goal, the loop-and-header from Benzema, you can be very, very sure if that -- if Maureeno conceded that. The player would be probably dropped. You know, whereas Johnson will be caught in the headlights so often. And he was dropped. Because he didn't play against all. He put Maureeno when we came back in. I don't think it was directly because of that. I think at the moment -- But it should have been Johnson and Mein Kuehlauer are sharing that position a lot. But that's such a Johnson thing to do. And we've seen it time and time again. Yeah, Rogers has persistently kept an aim, fate in him. So I think he is one of those managers who's like, you know, OK, it's happened. It's what I'm coaching you to do. So the players aren't really fully feeling the responsibility of such an error. Because they know, in trying it on Monday morning, there's not going to be nothing sad about it. I think you're absolutely right. I think it's a great point. I think that he is widened the net of what is an acceptable mistake, probably too far. I think that, remember when Skirtel gave that back pass to, was it Tevez in his first season? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he comes out after the game, Rogers, and he says, I'm telling him to do that. I'm always telling him to play that ball. Actually, the fourth day is the no one's there for the pass. I think he's just built on that all the time. And it's almost like he's accepting that some of these errors are inherent in what he's asking the team to do. And he's forgiven them. I just want to go back, find it as I've been near said. Because I do think it's overlooked in this conversation around the defensive coach and, you know, the individual errors. We do have a goalkeeper that doesn't come off as, leave a 60 yard boxer on the balls and play. And we have full-backs who play on the halfway line. And we have a defensive midfield player, or a theoretical defensive midfield player who doesn't play defensive midfield. You are asking two players to cover 50 yards of the pitch. That is a lot to ask center backs to do. And I think it is inevitable that when you're asking them to do that, I mean, you know, you need bank and bower and fucking loaf of materials playing there. And they'd still get caught out with the way we play. Yeah. Yeah, I think defensively like we're not set up as the defensive team. We only have to look at the kind of the banks. We don't, we don't, this whole thing where you remember Rafa would have two very, very tight lines. And nothing could happen in between that the line of defense and the midfield. We don't do that. We're not doing that. Players are drifting all over the place and our players are getting pulled out of position. It's not Roger's philosophy to defend like that. And it's the only real successful way to defend in their Premier League and Chelsea deal with all the time. It's very, very difficult to get at them because there's no... We all went mad at it, Rafa, because we thought he was boring. You can't do it, you can't actually do both. Okay. Okay. Let's, let's, let's moving on from there. Seeing as, seeing as you fellas have started talking about philosophies and stuff like that, let's have a look at team selection and tactics. And Neil, I'm going to come to you on this. It seemed to be easier. Last season, wasn't it when there was basically only 12 players that the manager trusted. On the pitch. It was, yeah. I like everything that was. So, I mean, you know, like it was easier. Now, now we have this new Rafta players in and everyone's looking to get their time and everyone's looking to prove a point. And Brendan's looking to prove their efficacy as, as performance. Uh-huh. Look, do you think he's been managing his resource as well? Roger's. Yeah. The resources he had in the summer, for example. The resources he currently has. In terms of the playing staff. In terms of tactics and setup and selection. Um, what he has now. Well, I suppose they're simple. Um, no. Obviously not. I mean, the team is underperforming massively from where we were last year. Give me a sample of some of the calls that have kind of annoyed you in terms of selection that you've disagreed with. Or even in terms of setup. Well, I suppose in terms of Roger's philosophy is at a target counter-attacking philosophy. I mean, that's where we got all. Although he came from Swansy with a possession dominated tactic. He didn't employ that Liverpool, which kind of, which drew me at the beginning, I have to be honest. But listen, it was very effective last year. And so his tactic is predominantly counter-attacking. Yeah, and yet he's playing one up front this season. Consistently. And that doesn't lend itself to a counter-attacking philosophy. So there, he's contradicting himself and then the one guy he is playing up front namely by the telly isn't mobile. And he doesn't see him. His positional sense is fucking awful. For a lad who was played at the top level and played at the top club was with top managers. I mean, many times there last night he was looking at a man who was drifting out and he was out on the left and there's nobody in the box. I mean, it's criminal. I mean, it's not that. Surely it can't be that complicated just to get yourself in the box and move the odd time and not be standing there like a lamppost. I mean, Lambert comes in, he does the exact same thing. So, I am scratching my head and it's baffling sometimes. See, it's reductive to bring it back to a single player. The issue that we have is that the same as last season he's... But they did ask me to give me an example of a single player. I know, but I'm just saying it's reductive to bring it back to a single player when you're talking about tactics because tactics isn't formed around one player unless the player is Louis Suarez. Now, we build a team around Louis Suarez. We've lost Louis Suarez and we haven't adapted our tactics for playing without him. So you've just given the example approach the rule, basically? In terms of... In terms of... No, you build a team around your best player. But if you take with Neil's point, Rogers comes with this dead boy football possession-based stuff. That went out the window fairly quickly. It became apparent that there was a better way to play that got bloody results. So, we adapted and we applaud him for that. Yep. Now, the team needs to change because the team is not working. Well, what I'm saying to you is, I think what's happened is he has adjusted his philosophy. He's looked at the... he's looked at it again at teams that were successful in the Premier League score a lot of goals. Right? And he looked at the four seasons score 70 goals, second season score over 100 goals. Right? He developed a system that gets the best out of the players that he has. Now, what he's done is he looked to do the same team with the storage instead of swears. Storage gets injured, right? My issue with Brendan this season, big time, is that he hasn't then gone and said, right, my next bank is... Here's what I have. I have Balotelli. Neil says the position is terrible. I wouldn't agree with that. You know, he plays a certain style. What we haven't done is adapted our game to fit the style that he plays. To have a torrid and forerunner into the box when Balotelli drifts boys to create space and drive players away. And that's what happened last night when he came on. He was drifting out wide left. Barini was cutting into the box. He was giving it a focal point. Balotelli then arrives late. If you look at the goal, what happens? Balotelli starts wide left, then cuts a diagonal into the box. Brainy gets the cross in and he's there to meet the cross. And he's attacking what you can see from Balotelli is he's starting to attack the six yard box in the front post more than what he would have done for us. I think that we got by accident by design. I don't think so. I'll tell you why. It's not happening consistently enough for me to say that. Well, it did. Because if you go back to the whole match, he misses a sitter in front from a very similar position. Where Coutinho cuts down the left hand side, whips the ball across. And Balotelli again is attacking the front post and the keeper makes a save off that one. It's almost a near identical goal, but from the opposite side of the pitch, an half a similar type of ball that's coming in. And it looks to me that while I don't agree with the formation, the 4-2-3-1 that he keeps employing, that there is an element when we've got 20 minutes to go and we need to get a goal, that we are starting to put somebody in around him. Barini was in around him. It wasn't necessarily a tool that was there, but he was playing more or less in around him and creating space. If Balotelli drifted at wide, Barini was covering the space and so on. So we weren't left with a massive gap. If you look beforehand, when Lambert was on the pitch, if Lambert pulled out wide, there was nobody else around him. Barini was wide on one side, and Marcovich was wide on the other side, and there was just nothing truly actual center. And that's where we changed. When we changed it up for the last 15 minutes or so, when we had to push and look for an equalise, and then we actually got the winner off of it as well, the whole thing changed because we started getting players in around the central forward. And that lends itself to Marc being a 4-4-1-1, or, you know, it puts somebody in around who you're calling the focal point here of your strike force is. And if he's somebody that likes to drift wide in the tack, in the same way that people will be talking about, "Well, back when you're doing a job for us," or you go back to somebody else, Balotelli is making the same movements as they do. Just the goals haven't been coming off of it. Yeah, I think, though, you're confused with it. I don't think the last 20 minutes, sorry, last night was at any team today with tactics. We were 50, we were one goal down, we were at home, we had to get through to the legs, or there was going to be... The roof was going to fall in on the place, so everybody pushed forward to get a goal. And obviously, when that happens, you're going to have players in the box and just going to be moving it everywhere. I mean, if that was the case, that would have been happening for the last six, seven games, but it hasn't been. Should we have been scoring goals? No, I don't agree. I don't agree. Le Lana came on, Le Lana came on, and he stops Hogan and Touchline, and the way Markovitch have been Hogan and Touchline. You know, the way we changed our attacking style for the last 20 minutes is similar to what we did with Hall, and we had players then in around where the central point of attack was. So, knowing that if Balotelli drops out of the front line, there was somebody else there at the back and up, to say that there's no tactics involved, there is, because there's a change in focus on the way we're actually attacking. Up until then, we were playing very much with weight and looking to get crosses. We were looking to serve her. We were playing crosses from deep. Yeah, but if that's effective, then why don't we go from the start? And that's exactly my point. That's my issue in terms of why Roger's been playing, is that instead of going to this system when you need to get a goal, start that way. Yeah, that's the bad idea. I was like, I mean, the car can't be quite far to horse, like, you know what I mean? It's, it would have taken, it would take a genius sitting in the stand to see what needed to happen there last night. You know, Roger's sitting on the bench, and he's, I don't know, isn't how the game has gone. The players themselves, see, they're sitting there thinking, fuck, are we going on here or not what I'm going to do here? So, when you come off the bench, you're going to make an impact. I, if you do something a little bit different to what's been happening on all night. So, you can't just say, oh, we'll start this way, this will start winning for now on, because what will happen in the game will go a certain way. And then you'll depend on a player like Markovich, if you ever, you know, start playing, come on and do something different. So, substitutes are brought on to change games. And they're always brought on towards the end, you know, Roger's especially half an hour to go. You know, failing that, it's, it's really rare you'd see any manager change it up at half time. It's always around the end of the game, when players, the game is finishing out, players are touring, and you want fresh legs, come on and do something different. And that's just typically what happened last night. We were very lucky last night without playing till badly, like, I mean, Liverpool controlled the game. For the most part, it was a possession type of game, and they controlled it. But, you know, Roger's when he came in to Liverpool, we were asking about possession for Bond, how he's abandoned it. I don't think he's necessarily abandoned by choice. He's figured out that his best players are flare players with pace, and they're not the type of players you play possession in football with. Do you understand what I mean? Like, you're going to use the lawyers, your strengths, and what Suarez, the way he was, and staring with his pace. Yeah, that was the point I was making. I mean, you're going to, you know, it's not like, Roger just wants to play attractive football, and you know, he wants to defend to be higher up the pitch. And you're not going to score goals from possession football with them type of players, really, when you think about it. I mean, you're not going to score goals from possession football alone, unless you're a really, really special team. Because knowing maybe, like, 90, 95 goals out of 100, they come from mistakes, losing a ball in your own half or set pieces. Yeah. It's rare you see a goal that's come from maybe 50, 60 passes. Or you say it's a tag. When you're a team like Liverpool, and teams are coming to Anfield, and they defend, and it's not like it's Swansea, where everything coming to Swansea was given it a goal. You keep the ball, and Roger's whole thing was like, you know, the more you keep the ball, the more chance you're going to have a score. So, it's a different challenge. And at Liverpool, all our best players were them type of flare players. And he's just yield to lawyers and, well, he's trying, especially last season with a bit more accounts attacking his yield to lawyers and what he has. What's there? Dave, what about that? I know you want to come in with this idea of selection and tactics, and feel free to do that. You might kind of segue into the attack because we want to finish off talking about those goals as well. Well, yeah, I mean, for me, to go back to something that I said earlier, you know, what Roger's does is he built a team around Luis Suarez. Well, of course, Luis Suarez is a good enough player that you build your team around him. And then this season, you go, OK, well, let's build our team around sterling and storage. But then you lose storage. So then you start running out of players who are good enough to build your team around. So then what you have to say is, well, let's play the way I think we should be playing. And I think that, you know, by the way, my prove himself to be good enough to build your team around, I don't think he is yet. And I don't think he's good enough to justify moving to a system that throws crosses into the box or plays a particular way. That suits him. I think what we saw last night is that the tactic can work. I also think that what we've seen, and I mentioned it earlier, post Madrid and post Kupia, is that he has gone fucking scoring 100 goals for a minute. Let's just like stop conceding two or three again. And let's get a bit more solid. Let's control the ball a little bit more. Let's be a little bit more compact. His selection against Hull is probably the most offensive selection he has made in over you. Right? I mean, you know, Emre Jean, Alan, and Gerard is the most offensive midfield he's ever picked. He picks LaLana, Ruttrax back. He doesn't pick Coutinho. You know, he picks a really defensive side. He doesn't want to see goals and he didn't see goals. And then he goes to Swansea and we're very compact control of the ball. I think that the challenge he's going to have is how do you open that up and start, you know, start to create more chances? I thought we played well last night. I actually thought we played well. The problem we've got is that we don't have a player who is winning games for us. Phil, on that is Mario Bellatelli after, you know, having some sort of a moment. Some sort of an awakening last night or is it just another little highlight amidst a lot of mundanity? I had Mario Bellatelli taking the good chances he's had. He'd be on about seven or eight goals for this season. Okay. So that in effect says that maybe there's not too much wrong with Rogers' tactics. Well, we have got chances for Bellatelli. We have, but we haven't made as many chances as we've made in previous seasons. So it's a bit of your hope and that what's happening, you know, you get the results out. Going back to what we've talked about the preview, it's about a case of just getting three points as opposed to necessarily a brilliant performance. Get the three points, get the three points, get ourselves closer to when storage comes back and hopefully we can change things around. But like you're saying about Bellatelli, right? I think over the last, he's an easy scapegoat for everything that goes wrong because it takes attention away from everything that goes on. Because of the way he looks and carries himself on the actual pitch itself. However, he changes the game when he comes on last night. He scores the goal. Now, the great thing would be if Bellatelli goes and scores again at the weekend. And gets, you know, starts putting a run of goals. Dave, let's say, remember when we talked about the '94, '96 season or the '96, '97 season, and we're talking about Collemore was struggling to get goals up until October, November. And then he went on a run of goals. And if you're looking for a similar type of striker or a type of mercurial, type striker who isn't necessarily a big man, but, you know, wouldn't have been that type of all-around polter in the box. Very similar in terms of the style of player and the type of player that we have here. So hopefully I'm hoping he gets another goal at the weekend. And then you see maybe a bit of confidence. And maybe that if the players see him scoring, you can start seeing things happening again with him. I'm really, I feel terrible for Lambert at the moment because the fella looks so below what needs to be in a Liverpool jersey. He just doesn't seem to be a player. Like, he's not a threat. I've seen Swansea players were letting him go because they knew he wasn't going to get near the button. Or he wasn't going to get in the box quickly enough to get a chance. And it's so hard, you know, but taking the Swansea match, that was the second string team that we pulled out. And we showed great, you know, character to come back in the end and get the result. And really for the last, I thought some of our best attack on play we've had in the last three or four games came in the last 20 minutes of the whole match and the last 20 minutes of last night as well. Because we just seemed to click again, there was the quick tempo passing going on. We had players in around the box. And as I was saying to you, because Borini was more post-more in central alongside Ballotelli that was there, suddenly defenders were being occupied, suddenly Ballotelli starts getting more space. Suddenly when he drifts out, then they had somebody else to think about. It wasn't a case for if he drifts out, there's nobody else out. It's easy for me to mark up. There wasn't three or four defenders on one player. So fingers crossed, fingers crossed. We go in to this weekend and we take that good attack and play. And we do play with players closer to them if we start in there. Because I think if you put them up, put one player up against a back four, or he has three players marking them at all the time, they're going to find a very... You need to be a truly exceptional center forward to play that one striker role. And Fernando Torres was probably the best example when he was at Liverpool. But he was blessed with electric pace to create space out of nothin' and get on to truth. But if you go with Ballotelli again at the weekend, you're going to see more of what we've seen. It was apparent that he didn't play, and we're seeing a very, very busy front line. We're seeing players moving everywhere. No, no. The fourth half Liverpool dominated the game, and there was lots of movement up front. There was lots of bars played through, and there was no cutting edge, as we've constantly seen in our season. But there was an awful... It was a busy attacking performance. I didn't think it was a great attacking performance. Well, that was my area anyway. It'd be a bad team to drop them now. Ballotelli always against them for the club, but players are there. Fans aren't as back now, and it's counter-productive. I mean, they're grown now. I didn't see him when he was taken after one of the games. It was a little bit of a cheer. Yeah, I don't like that either. He's there now, so you have to support them. It's all like last night, and if he scores the weekend, it's going to get the fans back in the soid. So I think there's no choice now but to start to play him. But the idea that I was kind of dabbleing with in my head was to play more of the classes, and I'm playing an attacking trio of Coutinho, Sterling, and then LaLana. No, I know there's no reconnoise striker in there, but there will be a handful for most teams in the league. Maybe Chelsea has soid, soid, soid. They'll be a handful, and I think you'd see a lot more free-flown thing. I mean, Suarez was never a natural type of striker. He was just somebody who hassled all game. And I mean, when tink with down-tree players, you can just give the fans a headache. Whereas Balotelli, if he's not in his game, he's an easy fella to defend against. One of those players who's mobile that Andy hasn't mentioned is Fabio Barini. What did you make of Balotelli's compatriot, Neil, on the night? Well, I thought he'd done well for this. Well, he, in the fourth half, he had a real forced opportunity. He always looked lovely. A couple of weeks ago, when I was on the board here, I said, "I think he should have been starting." And it was the, how should I say, it was met with the region. But listen, I'm going back to everybody's, the common tread throughout supporters and people on Twitter, wherever it is, Liverpool look best when they have two up front. I mean, that's, I think everybody might agree on that for a change. And so, if you're going to play Balotelli or Lambert's up front, you have to have someone who's mobile willing to do the run, because them two particularly aren't going to do it. And I just thought, "Well, his storage isn't fit, Bernie, and he fits the bill." I mean, he's not, he's not a world beater by any stretch of the imagination. Getting back to what we were saying earlier on, he's still only a young lad as well. And we paid a lot of money for him. But that's a bit of an aside. But he is very mobile. He will do the running that the other two possibly aren't going to do. He will give, he will, me, he will at least occupy the two centre halves. He won't be standing still, which gives everybody else more room for movement. So, yeah, I think, I'd like to see him starting the weekend. - He would. - Okay. Okay, we'll come back to that later on, we're doing our preview. We'll wrap that up for now. Right, let's preview Newcastle versus Liverpool. And as we do so, it looks like Newcastle are about to record a victory over Manchester City. They've just beaten Spurs. Has Alan Pardier relieved the pressure again with a couple of big wins? Or are they set with Mike Ashley about to sign off on a Rangers deal for another period of sort of confusion and chaos like Newcastle do well? How are we fixed and how are we feeling going into this? Newcastle has been trying to bed in a lot of new talent, Andy. Are they like us in that respect and sort of liable to inconsistency? Is that something we can hang on to? How dare I am? I mean, just our look at that. They've beaten Spurs and it looks like they're beating City in the week that they're even mixing it up. Yeah, yeah. Aaron has to finish at some point. Yeah. Momentum. Momentum. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose like he's brought in a lot of players like all the French boys, you know, Alan Pardier. Erm... I think that was nice. Alan Pardier. LAUGHTER And that's the end of the play. LAUGHTER It's really just kind of... It just keeps saying "I love you". LAUGHTER Just insert that myself. What's that in English? LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Morning. Oh, god. I feel like I'm just shitting it now already. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER You take a look at the Spurs and you think I won off like back to Norman's hair. Put the fact that they've backed it up with a cup on it. It wasn't buzzing now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And away from home, back home now and the fans are not changed. Neil, you've had a little bit of a look at the Newcastle squad you told me. Don't do our face. Go on now. With the hair as well. He's not taking his piece of paper out of the background. No, there's no paper of it and being produced at all. Tell me a little bit about Newcastle's strength and weaknesses then. Newcastle's strength... Well, at the strength of Newcastle, you know, it will always be their home fans' trip. LAUGHTER As he boys time... Rook in his jeans. LAUGHTER Yeah. All of that, you should see what he's written down. LAUGHTER Alan Pigeon. Come on. Sit back 20 minutes. And he helps us. LAUGHTER Alan Pigeon. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER LAUGHTER Neil, go on. Tell me. And we all be scarred against sports. LAUGHTER Now bear with me. Bear with me. Bear with me. Which one? I'm a swatter than Sammy. Right. Sammy, everyone. What's up? It's Casey's fucking great. This is gold. Ah, fucking great. Anyway. Listen, that's me, don't worry. LAUGHTER That's me. Put me paper back in my pocket. I'm fucking shocked you did that. That was cool. Well, there was a new Newcastle fucking star. LAUGHTER I couldn't believe this. There was a morning with Charlotte and me all in a pub. A morning with Charlotte and me all in a pub. A morning with Charlotte and me all in a pub. A morning with Charlotte and me all in a pub. The morning after the night before, with Charlotte and me all in a pub. They played, yeah. They played the night the night before and there were all the players were low. Like, they were all spotted out in the piss. Put them on an hour. I couldn't believe it. What was Charlotte doing in this morning with Charlotte? I think Harry went the fucking same. LAUGHTER What? How could you pass that? It wasn't Charlotte. It was Sammy. LAUGHTER Yeah, yeah. Dave, have you any concept of who might be playing for Newcastle before you? Well, Sammy, I'm young. So, that young kid, that Aaron's, is it? He scored tonight against City. So, they've got a couple of good young players. And a pair of things scored their second goal on. It was his debut. Yeah, it was his debut. Thanks again. They are missing. Thank you. They're missing San Dion. And some of the players that they brought, they haven't really clicked in yet. But, you know, they've got the likes of Sisoko. It was a big powerful midfield player. They can obviously still turn in a performance. Call of Chini at the back is obviously strong. Crews a good goalkeeper. You know, the kid they brought in a right-back Yanmat. I think it is the Dutch guy. You know, he hasn't had a great start at the season. He's obviously talented. So, look, we can't be taking Newcastle lightly. They're going to be at home. You know, there's two ways to look there, right? If you follow Newcastle over the last couple of years, what usually happens is they have a really good run. They get safe, and then they're like, right, that'll do. You know, so they could be going, okay, we've had our one win in four that we need. So, and we fuck, we've got through in the cup, which let's be ours, Newcastle never want to do. So, they could take their foot off the gas. But we can't go there worrying about what they're going to do. We've got to go there and go in. Like, we have to win. It is simple as that. We have got to win. And hopefully the result against Swansea will be a boost. We should have, I hope we've got too much for them. You know, same as I say against most teams. The only way we don't win is if we beat ourselves. You know, that's the way I don't get out. I think we're good enough to beat them. Well, they're on track for a very good result this evening. They've got a good result this first. But this evening, they've beaten a very strong city team with two-ray silver, yellow ditch, Jacko, Fernandinho on the front part of the team. Without cruel and gold, without a silco. Without a silco. Without Paris or the new boy, Cabella, or Sami, Aimee Obie. Or Riviere, who are all the... Chris Armstrong plays for him, and he's 64. That's wonderful. And very useful. So my point is, Phil, they're not a team, especially with the momentum behind them to be taken lightly. No, and look, we can't afford to take any team lightly as the whole result proved that last weekend. You know, we have to find the result. Going back to what we've been saying for the last few weeks. Where will it be? Possibly at the end of the game. Or maybe it'll be during the game. But we have to find it. And when we find it, we need to make sure that we like the result. So the most important thing is that we get the result. Get the result. Yeah, but it's a positive result. The result being a win. This is class. This is absolute gold. I think Andy hit the nail on the head. None of us are confident going to this game in a weekend. Yeah. I just think going into it. If you look at Newcastle, up until recently, have been a mess. Right? You know, just poor attacking and poor defensively. It worse than us. Like they were lumbering down the bottom of the league. You know what I mean? The issue for us is that we need to win more than anything. Because that's the minimum. We'll be on 17 points if we win. If we don't win, we are scratching for points at this stage. And as I say, looking at a run at two pounds per game average. If you want to be on 40 points, come the 20 game mark. If we win on Saturday, we need to take 23 from 40 points. If we don't win on Saturday, we need to take 26 from 40. Which reduces your error percentage there. And that includes games against Arsenal as well. And Chelsea. So you want to have at least a bank facing the harder games. That if the result doesn't happen there, it doesn't really. It's not going to seriously impact on the two points per game ratio for the whole Champions League team that's going on. So what we need to do is we need to get at Newcastle's weaknesses. Which is mainly a serious lack of pace in the defence. And that, you know, coming back to what we were talking about earlier on, we need to have a high tempo attack on the actual pitch. And can we have it? Yeah, we can. As I said, the last 20 minutes of both games shows that if we go with the intensity and that tempo that we brought when we had Catina on the pitch, when we have Sterling back on the pitch, let's say, when you have somebody in the long side by the telly, you need to stop, you know, it's this 4-2-3-1. It encourages us more or less to sit deep. And you think he's going to start with that again? Yeah, I do. I think we're locked. Had we started with something different against Swansea? Oh, they said, yeah, he's looking to change for the weekend. But I think we start that way again. And again, I think it could be that we need to keep a choice and it'll be the last 20 minutes that we win the match in. So it'll be, then it goes and changes it for the last 20 minutes, whatever way it does and puts more bodies in and we go. That was a little bit worse last year, where last year, the forced 20 minutes of every match, we went and just destroyed teams in terms of movement, the thing. Now we're trying to tour teams out, avoid defensive lapses, and either nick a goal in the forced half or really go with teams in the last 20 minutes, which is very, very raffic. Yeah, we're not going to beat anyone one there, Phil, though, sure enough, so we're going to have to score two goals again in the last 20 minutes, at least it's madness. Listen, I know, and listen, I'm with you, but I just think, like, I'd love to see us go to up top, go, high tempo from the start to go, you know, with all the good things that were happening. But the reality is, it's not going to happen. No, I imagine he's going to go similar to the whole game. We think we're going to go with behind us in Chan and Gerard, because they're going to look to offset the strength. You know, they have a very physical midfield, Newcastle have, it's a so-go and Tios, and Karlback as well. And Karlback's been playing very, very well. And they looked to put themselves about, and they looked to Phil. They will look at a new castle I've been doing, like, similar to West Ham, when Under Alad, I still just looked to get in and kick the players off the actual ball. So we'll need that air-physicality there. And it's up to the defenders, like... So hang on, if you go Henderson, Chan, Gerard, then... Agent Roger, though, I'm in there. Yeah, either side of both, I think you're going to have... No, well, it doesn't necessarily edge towards them, because if he sets up as a 4-2-3-1, as he did with Alan and Chan, and Gerard, he played Chan and Gerard there, and he had Alan sort of in the tree in front of them. Like, he could push Henderson into the tree in front of them, or he might say to Chan and Henderson to alternate between who's taking that point, and one of you sitting beside Gerard, that's there. It doesn't necessarily change a shape into a diamond or a 4-3-3, so which I would love to see us going with the diamond, Gerard, pushing Henderson into the two positions either side there, and then have Catino in the 10, or even play Sterling in the 10, and put Catino off by the tele, because the one thing Catino's been doing really well is he's getting the shots on target, he's getting into great shooting positions, and he's taking shots which are, you know, which are force and keepers to make saves. Yeah, he's also seeing a pass, though, which you need him deeper for. But the other thing is, when going back to our 4-season, when we brought storage in, when we went and destroyed Newcastle that day and put the 6-past and whatever it was, right, Catino was playing more or less off storage that day, and no storage is a different type of striker, but he was playing off him, and so he was able to play ship, not long true balls, but those short true balls that... And Balotelli has more to pace. You could see it last night, when he goes, he can go. And if we can just, you know, that's to me ideally how we line up, but I think we go 4-2-3-1, I think... I'm not sure where the Catino starts, I think Lelana could come back into the team, it could be Lelana, Sterling, and Balotelli as the other three, if you've got Henderson, Gerard, and Chan as the... So you see Catino stepping out? Yeah, and I think then he looks to bring Catino in. Going back to what I said about the last 20, he looks to bring him in to change the tempo again, and change the pace. Well, listen, this is what he's been doing our season. You know, he obviously feels that this is a way to go, the way that we, if we're going to be, look to be taught at the back and then win the game in the last 20 minutes, when the teams have... have only stored teams out. Dave, would you concur or would you see it lining up differently? Do you think you might go for something different? Well, it's slightly different view of what we've done. I don't think we've played a flat 4-2-3-1. I think he plays Jared as the deepest, and then I think he plays two more players in midfield than they tend to rotate. So I think if you watch the game, this times where John is the furthest forward, and Adam's dropping back and vice versa. So I don't think he plays two holding midfielders. I think he has one deep midfielder, and then he has at least one other dropping in and being the Lincoln midfielder in midfield. So I think he's more a 4-3-3 rather than a 4-2-3-1. I think the graphics and the things that the way the teams line up, people think it's a 4-2-3-1. So I don't personally think he's going to do that. I think he should start Coutinho, and I've got a funny feeling and he will. I don't think he'll play John. I think he'll play Gerard Henderson. I think he'll play Coutinho in the midfield, and I think he'll play L'Alanna Stirling and Balletelli as his front 3. That's what I think he should play. I think that's why. Really? You don't think that Gerard Henderson as the two deepest of the midfielders is a Devon issue? Not really, because Newcastle don't have a lot of pace to run him beyond Gerard. He's at a week off, so he should be kind of unfit as he's going to get. In my ideal world, if I was picking the team, I wouldn't play Gerard. I'd play Chan and Henderson. 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Brad Jones is a big shot. Andy, would you comment on the Brad Jones shot that we've just heard there? Well, yeah, I mean, looking at him last night, you'd have to say he's trust him ahead of me again at the moment. Would you? Maybe it's what he needs. I was saying up to... It's what him needs. Me and Lalana need to kick me out. Yeah, I was saying up to a few weeks ago, you know, I think it was in the previous Capital One Cup game. You have to play me again. You know, he needs to get in time. He needs to build his confidence back up. But that hasn't really worked. So, fuck it, why not? You know, when Jones is stepped in, he's done OK. I can't really think of too many bad things he's done. Me and Lalana have a lot of bad mistakes lately. So, I don't think it'll happen, but I wouldn't be wholly against it. It's an interesting... If you look at what City did last season, I don't think the drop-off between Joe Hart and Pantilla Mon is any bigger than the drop-off between Mini-Lay and Jones. Right? And City, who had the most expensive... Just economies of scale, though, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no, but Joe Hart's a much better player than Mini-Lay. He's a better player than Mini-Lay. He's a better player than Jones. Yeah, but you don't like Joe Hart. But, I mean, you know, let's relax. Very unusual, cos he landed, but Liverpool wasn't sure anything. But so, I don't think the drop-off to Jones. And I think Mini-Lay needs taken out of the fire in line. I think the whole defence needs him taking out the fire in line. And they just need to know that the guy behind them is going to come for the cross. He's going to come for the balls he should be coming for. And I just think they need a fresh change in the goalkeeper. And I would play Torrey because I think Torrey and Laverne is better than Laverne is good. So, my shout of dropping Gerard and playing a 4-4-1-1 is less realistic than I'm dropping Mini-Lay. Mmm, apparently. Yeah. Of the five. Heads in the room. How many people would not think it's going to happen, but would actually start with Jones? Yes, I would. You would. That's one. I would, yeah. Two. No. Tell me where you're not, though. Phil? Because... Sorry, Phil, go ahead. Just give me the count for us, Phil. No. No. I wouldn't either. That's three versus two. And the reason why I wouldn't... The reason why I wouldn't... Going back to Dave in terms of the drop-off, right, I think the problem we have is that if Jones comes in and there's an error and he can see to go... then... I think there's a bit of revisionism here about Jones just because he hasn't played in so long. He's a really bad goalkeeper. Listen, there's no way he's shit here. No, he is really bad. 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Well, it's not really because you've got every chance possible that Jones comes in and has a howler as well, so... I just don't accept the funding. Not really. He's going to have too many. He's not had... Not like mistakes at all, really. Was you only saying there anyone about playing, or was it Neil, about playing? Playing, dropping Minule out seemed a really bizarre idea given that he'd just had a clean sheet at least, and we could have gone into the cup and he could have had another one. I was like, "You think we saw anyone?" You know what I mean? That didn't happen. It was... Yeah, it was said earlier. So what about that? I mean, it was almost just willful putting them in just for the cup match because it's a cup match. Was it actually about? I think it's just been probably a promise, maybe Jones is the season that you're going to play the kind in cup games, and he couldn't break that promise. I think I'd imagine that's what it was. It's not what it was. He broke it in the last one because I think Minule's confidence was so low. I did. He conceded toward the end goal. That's why I mean, that was... That went well. That was definitely Roger's logic. I look, it's not going to happen. You know, where we can debate about it. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't. I'd start Tori. I'm with Dave. That's the big question, really. I'd start Tori. I'd start Tori. Because love run will start. My argument for starting Tori comes back to the whole thing that I think that the scared and the love run partnership is one of the worst centre-back partnerships I've seen at the club in a long, long time. But the crazy kamikaze potential between love run and Tori is immense. But the new castle are at the same level as Swansea. Yeah, but you just see one stage Tori on the zars again. He's like your main secretary. I'll tell you. You can have a laugh. At the same time, he does some very intelligent things. There's a chance when Swansea are going through last night and he just fails to fall out on the halfway line. If that scared out the choice to wrestle him... I thought he even meant that. He did. Is it scared out the choice to wrestle him? Yeah. And then doesn't. He's also much better with the ball. Much better with the ball than school. He carries the ball better than a skirtle does. Yeah. I think he's proactive the way love run is proactive. That leads to some of the calamitous moments that we see. But he doesn't drop ten yards every time the ball comes in to half. I think there's... Look, Paul Latour is not the long-term answer. No. But he looks fitter and he's looked, I think, since his first three games are Liverpool. I thought he looked good last night. I think he certainly read love run about it and scared out. Scared out Kona will do his own thing. Whereas, you know, Torre is in the big game. He'll look in the... He'll look in the big game. He'll look in the big game. 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I've gained like 12,000 followers in two months on Twitter with those vines. For people who haven't seen them, Chris, what's the basic subject matter? They seem to be a recurrent team there. It's in international break. It's Roy Hodgson. Other than that, it's been mostly a ten credit palmeri. Excellent. I'm trying to branch out a little. Excellent. More variation now. Okay. Okay. Very good. Well, look, we're going to get the ball rolling with you with our first question, which has come in on. I think it is. Yeah. Your favorite bond girl. And he sheds on that. That's from natural man candy cabbage. Yeah. So. Anyway, Chris, your favorite bond girl, go. I'm not really into bond, but you want to head now to see the ballast group. Chris, that was at the right age when she was a bunker. That was a Brosnan one, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I seem to have recalled her. He was called a bomb. Of course I recall him. You were screaming when he was right in the horse for God's sake. I recall the silent era. Before silent bond movie. I think that was called now. Yeah, yeah. Well, Phil, as a man who likes to pretend he's much younger than me, but isn't really. Who's your favorite bond girl? Yeah. I don't. You don't watch films. Is that what you're going to tell me? I don't watch films. Oh, no, no, no. You haven't watched annoying films. I don't know. Has anyone got a bond girl shared from me here? Oh, yeah. That's the girl that's in. Oh, come on. You can't go. Rosamund Pike. Is it the girl in Gongo? Oh, yeah. She's outstanding. You've found her. But a bond girl. Not Gongo. Yeah, she was in a bond. She is. She's a fencer, right? She's a fencer in that. A fencer? What does that mean? Is that you from his or something? She's a fencer? She's a fencer. She's a fencer. No, she's a fencer. She's what a fucking... She makes fences. She paints fences. She paints fences. How do you know? Honey, honey. She has her bond girls. I don't really watch films in general. Oh, for fuck's sake. What? Is that a show or a fucking show? I can't share a culture. How do you know about it? How do you know about it? How do you know about it? How do you know about it? How do you know about it? How do you know about it? How do you know about it? Rosamund Pike. Rosamund Pike. Rosamund Pike. Rosamund Pike is a famous one, isn't she? Rosamund Pike is a famous one. Yes, sound. There you go. He was octopussy. Diana Rager, someone. Oh, no, that's going back too far. Yeah. I'm not sure. I remember. Jaws. Let's go with Jaws, my favorite band. The Blondie board. That was Jaws Girlfriend. She's lovely. She was lovely. She was lovely. Yeah, next song. Well, that went well. That went really well. I'm so glad you started that. Favorite pub snack Andy's seen as you don't watch films. It wasn't a pub snack. It wasn't a pub snack. It wasn't a pub snack. It wasn't a pub snack. It wasn't a pub snack. Oh, yeah, you don't read in pubs anyway. It's very tragic. A pub snack. Yeah, go on. Well, pub snacks have come on a lot. Don't give me the history. Tell me your favorite fucking pub snack. I mean, you can get a trip. You don't just get peanuts and Pringles and king crisps and pubs anymore. You can get loads of stuff. So what's your favorite? That's what the question's asking. That's Tom's question. It's not pub food now. It's pub snacks. It is a difference. Okay, for example. Scampie fries will be mine, for example. Oh, jeez. We'll just stop. I'll be here to pack it in here. This question is asked when you go home. It's so... Milk. Yeah, yeah. Pub snack. Favorite pub snack. I don't go to pub snack. Oh, for fuck's sake. Chris, favorite pub snack. I have a good one. Did you ever hear of smallet? No. What's that, man? You don't really want to know. Okay. It's in Poland. They have this, it's called smallets. It's basically a jar full of lard. And you... You're fucking horrible. Lard. Yeah. You put it on a little slice of bread. Like a spread. And you eat it together with your beer. And it sounds really disgusting. It looks really disgusting, but it's actually pretty good. Lard, yes. Smallet. Smollet. I think we'll go with that. Smollet. Hipster pub snack. Hipster pub snack. Get smollet into the bars. Karl Matches. I've felt some more specific questions. Yes. And he's looking to know about burgers. And he's wondering when the burgers become gourmet. Consider gourmet food. You can go to gourmet burger, for example now, at the moment. Other gourmet burger places are available. They are. When there's 15 quid a burger, you can call it a gourmet country. So you reckon... Before that, it's just a burger. You think... And before that, it's a patty. So it's a marketing thing. Yeah. So I got right back and then, just before... Why is it called... It's just a ham sandwich. Yeah. It's a ham sandwich. It's a meat patty. That's what McDonald's called. A meat patty. It's the burger bit in the meat bit in the middle, yeah? And then you get a quarter pounder. Then you get a quarter pounder. You wouldn't have went anywhere to say, "Can I have a patty?" Well, you would do if that's what you wanted to. Depends on how gourmet the burger is, because it could be reductive in terms of... Gourmet burgers. Gourmet burgers are just a reinvented, gourmet burgers. Yeah. Fancy your bread. Not just that. But like, it's an actual lump in meat. It's not eyeballs in that. That's shit that's swept up out of flour. It's actual, decent, you know, lean mince. Yeah. So when did it become gourmet? Yeah. That's my point. Was it when somebody who said the slack, like Neil says, someone slaps. Basically, basically when you wanted to get more cheap ingredients into your restaurant and sell it at bigger margins. Why are we talking about? What day is it? I'm going to move away from burgers, aren't there? Another question, which is football-based. And it's going to get you thinking about the fast. Football. This is basically a five-side, fictional five-side between... Last season's squad. And Kenny's first time around that year. From the late 80s. Yeah, yeah. Right? So who's going to win a five-side and who would be on the five-side teams? Like, I mean, I think the Kenny's one picks itself, doesn't it? It's Kenny Hanson, Barnsy, Beardsley. Brucey. And Bruce. That's it. Is that five? No, it's very democratic there. There you go. No, who could possibly give that a game from last season's squad? Brad Jones and Gull. Alyssa Soko. Yeah. Victor Moses. See, we're taking this fucking time. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Lambert up front, nice and mobile over the five-side. Last season. Last season, yeah. Did I say Lambert up front as far as? Yeah. Well, I mean, Jesus, there's definitely four of Gull players from last year. Yeah, but who would be the best five-side? Sware is. Yeah. Centennial. Sterling. Storage. And Henderson. Henderson. No, the five-side. No, the five-side. 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On this weeks pod we talk about the things which have come to the fore over the past 3 games since Real Madrid. We celebrate the young players who are proving to be the real leaders of this team. We look at the defence and Dejan Lovren and pose the question around a defensive coach. We look behind Brendan’s tactics and insistance on playing 4231 and not building the formation to get the best out of his only fit striker. We look ahead to the match v Newcastle and what will/will not happen. We round out the show with Trippers Chats and joining us is @vonstrenginho Vinemeister supreme.
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