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Mad stuff going on so it must be the post QPR podcast. We discuss the goings on at Loftus Road from the awfulness of the defence to the bright sparks in the team. We look ahead to the wondrous occasion which is the champions league match v Real Madrid and then the following come down game v Hull. Big thanks to the lads at YNWA Irish Reds for hosting us in the Stoneboat on Sunday gone. Looking forward to joining them on their Daytrip on November 1st. check them out if you are a Dublin based red www.ynwairishredssc.com and want to meet up with other reds on match day.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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1h 30m
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21 Oct 2014
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Mad stuff going on so it must be the post QPR podcast. We discuss the goings on at Loftus Road from the awfulness of the defence to the bright sparks in the team. We look ahead to the wondrous occasion which is the champions league match v Real Madrid and then the following come down game v Hull. 


Big thanks to the lads at YNWA Irish Reds for hosting us in the Stoneboat on Sunday gone. Looking forward to joining them on their Daytrip on November 1st. check them out if you are a Dublin based red www.ynwairishredssc.com and want to meet up with other reds on match day. 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Joining me in the bunker tonight are Daddy Raycare, Ray Brady, Stonebolt, crowd favourite, Dave Thomas, Alan Shearer, Paul Brennan and Sunday Hangover, Fear Merchant, Phil Casey. Right, review time, QPR2, Liverpool 3. Let's start with Simon Minile because basically what the fuck. After Brendan denying that there's going to be a Spanish import, very recently to Guillaume Balgate there, makes it seem any more comfortable, and made a lot of excellent saves, which is going to come up later on I think from the man on my left, but he also scared the crap out of us. Did he not, Dave Thomas? Well, he was atrocious, absolutely atrocious. I mean, he makes one great save from Fear. That's a very good save, right? But he is like a wet wipe back there. There is no substance to him at all. He's a wet wipe. He's like a wet wipe, it can't even flush him in the toilet. Can't flush him, there's just nothing about him, he's just, oh my god, he drives me bananas. And we were watching it, actually I was with you guys and we were watching it, and this wasn't us now, our own observations were, but during the match, how many times did someone randomly or several people randomly, shout, "Where's the keeper?" Because every time the ball went in the 18 yard box, he was on his line. Yeah, but 80% of those shows were rubbish. But anyway, but you know what I mean? I'm serious, I'm serious, I'm serious. Go on, go on, go on. It was bad in the wagon chipper. No, no, no, come on. I can understand 20% of them, because there was definitely 20% of the occasions when he should have been there. He's so glued to his loin, it's not funny at times, we're talking about simple balls over the top, the top quality goalkeepers come out and sweep, they come out and sweep, whereas air defense has to backtrack five, 10, 50 yards extra, because he doesn't come out, he just doesn't come out to the edge of his box. But your favorite goalkeeper is no, yeah, right? Right. All of those shouts were the keeper. He comes for 80% and I'm not 20% of them. Well, he was also playing midfield. No, I got that. But my point is it becomes such a thing now, that it looks more obvious because you're looking for him all the time and he's never come in. My thing I'm in there and I was saying to you guys before the part is that he keeps, he makes a save after a defensive mistake and he gets up and he shouts, but he doesn't shout that anyone. So he's not like telling anyone in the defense, here's what you've done wrong, you need to do that better this time. What does he say, Dave? He just shouts, come on. Yeah. That's it. Like to nobody. He's not even, you know, if he grabbed lover and I said, even come on, that guy's in, come on. So he shouldn't show, come on and show, come on, just show me of them to someone that shows he has understood why that mistake has happened. He doesn't understand what has happened. He has no command. He has no respect. Oh, he drives me crazy. It's not too harsh. No, not at all. I said a couple of weeks ago that I'd fallen over the go there after the West Ham performance and yeah, he pulled out a couple of good things. He pulled out another half-days and one from Sandra as well, but there was the particular incident there, just when Glenn Johnson lifted Germano where he came for a ball that just, you know, you just want to command and go, okay, but it's all right, I'm going to come and punch. He doesn't have to do the English thing, catch it, put a good solid punch on it and he was nowhere to be left and no man's lying, flapping in the wind and nearly cost us a goal, but just the lack of confidence is just spreading all over the back four from having a shit go, okay, but basically it's that fair pull that is emanating from the furthest point back. I don't think so. I just think loads of other founders are short, like, like, scarlet and jot, like, like blue in the face about them, but like, I think being, I mean, you know, I think we know now what we're going to get, like, it's stuff like that cross is coming in, you know, balls over the top, he's not going to come for it, but he will, like, at least a shot stop and has improved kind of recently because there was a time where that was even going out the window, you're doing nothing, like so, yeah, I think, I think at this stage we know we're going to get kind of hard to talk stuff whenever the ball's coming towards him, but he's okay at shot stopping. He's okay at shot stopping. That's where we're at now, we're immediately, he's okay at shot stopping. Well, he's a good shot stop. I'll give him good. That's what I'm asking him about, I'm looking for him, fairness, yeah, we do need to balance here. Phil, talk to me about those. Oh, yeah. So I'm very balanced. Yeah. You may have noticed how I teach you up there. Talk to me about those clipped clearances that were enthusing you and me so much too. Of course, I'll be just on them, right? Some of the saves he makes yesterday are brilliant, like, there's three brilliant saves he makes, okay, there's the, no, there is, there is, but it doesn't, and this is, this is my point that you're on, is that just because you make a couple of brilliant saves, it doesn't necessarily offset the amount of bad things that you do as well in the game. You know what I mean? It's like saying, ah, scared it was brilliant because he cleared two balls off the line. It's completely negating what it goes on for the other 90 minutes on the pitch, or, you know, Enrique was brilliant because he took a picture under boy. It just, it means nothing when you look at the overall 90 minutes, like when the ball goes back to him, I don't think there's anybody now at this stage, it's a fan of the club, that knows what's going to happen next, and it's either going to be a clip clearance out of play, or to somebody else, or it's going to be, even as long kicks are these loopy things, which they don't, they're never driven, they never, they never seems to be porpoise on his, on his, on his distribution, and look, of all of the defenders and everything that's yesterday, he isn't the biggest, biggest problem that was there yesterday, right? But I think, as you said, people are being drawn more and more to it because we're not seeing a consistent step up, when we played West Brom, he came from it, was coming for every class and he played higher in his box, it was the same as the Southampton game where he played, played really well that day, but then in between those games, you just have a myriad of madness, it's like, it, it, it, it goes from the saves, which I supply him to the other stuff that's gone on, which is just ridiculous, and it, it's our defence in microcosm, if you know what I mean, and that's why people are now starting to say, well, maybe it is the goalkeeper, because if the goalkeeper is that erratic in his level of performance within a game, you can look at the defence and say, well, this is a common team, it's not just him who's erratic, the whole defence is completely erratic, 86 minutes yesterday, we had a clean sheet, dollar hell, but we had a clean sheet, right? 86 minutes, but the time to where every blow is whistled, we can see the two fucking goals, you know what I mean? And that's, that's just insanity, but what, what is the, like, how often do you have to watch these absolutely mind-numbing, the awful little chip clips out of the line to full backs, it's just insane, and they never do anything except cause the play to break up or slow down? Particularly against Enrique, who I don't think has ever won ahead during his life, I mean, where does he go in there? Like, I mean, Johnson... He's been, he's been instructed to do it, because if you remember, even gone by before a mini-lay, when Raina was playing for us, right? Yeah. Roger's even came out and said that when, when the team's press, so you saw yesterday with QPR, the two forwards went on to the two centre backs, so he couldn't play short, and then the one of them at Fielders went out and went on to Chan or Gerard, whoever was there at that point, right? So Roger says, when that happens then, they look to go to the next line in the actual team, which is generally to the full backs. Now we've had Manquiao, and we've had Moreno, and his favorite tag has been Manquiao cause he's 6'4'2", and he's won most of his headers when they go out that side. And to, in credit to Johnson, he won a couple of his headers as well when it went out, but yes, going to Moreno that way, or going to Enrique is madness, especially when you have, you know, teams are also understanding that this is what he's going to do, and I get one of their bigger midfielders to come out when that happens, to push wide, to win the actual cross. You know, for me, like, he looks like to have gotten a stay of execution because it doesn't look like we're going to sign Valdez at this stage, right? Now he has, he has from now until Christmas to up his levels, and if we aren't signed on Valdez, you know, maybe Roger has taught himself, you know, if I do sign Valdez now, I can't play him in the Champions League. If I put him in in league games, this lad's confidence is going to be completely destroyed, right? And obviously if Valdez comes in, he's going to expect to be number one when he comes in, so I'm sorry about a bit of a catch-22. If we hang off, maybe I get his confidence level back up, and he starts performing, you know, as the better Simon Miniele can, as opposed to the poorer one, that seems to creep out every now and then, and you know, maybe it is, maybe it's a case of, well, look, I'm going to roll the dice and hopefully I get the Christmas, and if there's no significant improvement, then I can sign somebody in the transfer window at that stage. I can look to, hopefully, a German goalkeeper. Yeah, yeah, Dave, let's move it forward a little bit away from Simon Miniele laying towards it. Not much for a restricted fucking problem. Let's look at the back four. Pretty much universally awful, even, although we'd have to say that Glenn Johnson was actually probably the least wretched of all of them, but would you agree with that? I think that's probably fair enough. But look, where do you even start? You've got the Kamikaze lad wearing number six, you've got, you've got the Daf lad wearing number three. Daf? He's daft. And he's gone beyond Daf. He's just... Well, let's start with the number three, right? Because... Dan, the team's shooting the lead, right? I was... Well, you were there. I was excited. I love Hausen Rekke, right? But not because he can play football. I just love him, as we were talking about, generally, he's great personality, he's fucking mental. And he's simultaneously at the same time, but at the very same time, sometimes our best player, and our worst player on the pitch. He looks like the guy that could do something mad in their box, and we score a goal, but he could do something mad in our box, like try a croft turn, when it's almost pressing him, and make us consider goal. Yesterday, he was... It's got to be the worst... I mean, he was four times worse than anything Ali Sasoko ever did for us. Ever. Ever. I mean, people talk about Ali Sasoko, like he had, you know, one leg. He was... He and Rekke made him look like fucking bail, yesterday. He was that bad. It was unbelievable in Rekke. He was mad at us. Absolutely mad at us. If Rodgers had left back on the bench, he would have hooked him. I'm sure of it. You see, if we call Brad Smith today, and that does not surprise me the last... Yeah, that's quite an indicator. I mean, Rodgers has blind spots, right? But there's no way he's locked. He hits in Rekke anyway, I think. And there's no way he's watched that game yesterday and been happy with him. He was appalling. And the thing is, sorry, just my last thing on Enrike, right, regardless of what you think of anyone else around him, right? He is more senior than a lover in an Emery Jean, right? And those are the three kind of players covering that side of the pitch. He's got to be helping him, particularly Jean. I felt in the first 10-15 minutes, I thought Jean struggled a little bit. And I think you're looking for Enrike as the senior player, as the more seasoned professional, to give him a dig out. Everybody gave Jean, put him in trouble. Every single ball he gave Emery Jean, put him in trouble. I thought Enrike was terrible, as you could probably tell him, you know. He like, there's no way. It's just making me mad. Let's talk about Glenn Johnson, because we might actually have a chance to talk about him here, where he's not the focus of all of our fury and rage. Maybe he talked to me about the most controversial thing that he got sort of universally praised for, which is that kind of clearance, stroke, kamikaze, two-footed Jackie Chan assault. What did you make of that? That was the exact opposite of everything we've criticized from our top lack of effort to worsen our tackles, not being interested in wanting to come off with half an injury there a while ago, and he'd done the exact opposite. He tried to kill two men. He tried to kill two men to kill people, rather than let the ball go in the net. Brilliant. He couldn't fall down for that. He couldn't fall down to him, so he'd be slightly outfalled. But that's the exact type of thing you'd want to see from a player, and I'd never fall to him for that type of effort. And overall, what did you make for him on the day? He was the best of a bad bunch. That's as much as I could say. I don't think there was an outstanding for him. I don't think he offered too much going forward. I had to buy the goal, and I mean, that was nothing to do with that, basically, just as someone to play it quick because he'd know that backs were torn, but yeah, now I wouldn't say he'd done that in particularly brilliant yesterday. And positionally, how do you think he was? Same old story, wasn't it? Exactly, sorry. I mean, they're gold. He dropped off when Scout got caught underneath it. Johnson actually takes two steps back for whatever reason, or he's having a fucking clue after watching the two or three times. And the ball, as Scout misses it, he literally just lets him have the ball. It's like he's bought somebody knows in the cup, and he wants to go and have a word with it, because he's so deep, he's practically off the pitch at that point. That's especially good because it was Zac Kupior. You know what I'm telling you? That's what he was going in the cup. Even the initial kind of lofted ball that they put in, like him and Scirtle, it's exactly what we've come to expect from them. No one takes responsibility. The ball, I think it's Airmen Triore, takes the ball on his chest, and does that Caroline seal dribble with his head across the bottom. I'm just standing there looking at him like, it's just ridiculous. It's like they say to each other, "Look at that!" Fuck, he's all right. It's like he's got this, man. It's like he's training, going, "That's impressive. What are we, oh, shit!" What's going on? You've brought us on to the center half, so why don't you talk to us a little bit about Mr. Loverham and Mr. Scirtle? Do I have to do this? Do I have to get upset? Do I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've done your best, I really want to be happy, so let me drag you there. It's, yeah, you know those sort of games where it's horrible, like the teams launch in the ball at us, they just, our defenses, it just doesn't matter, it looks like it doesn't matter who we signed, they're not going to be able to deal with it. There's just like nobody wants any responsibility. Bobby Zamora, I mean, like, Bobby Zamora, when you see people talk about the past few weeks, you would swear it was drugball all over again, it's Bobby Fucking Zamora. He's nailed an England card up, like the fuck? The wanker was in the crowd, he was there, he was round, he was rubbing his 87 chin. You absolutely love him. Well, he left on 83, he still thinks he was one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, what you're saying is when he's doing the number, and he did. Yeah, obviously, Lovren's got loads, and he didn't deal with him at all, but it's not just him, like if it's, Bobby Zamora takes the ball down his chest, he's still Bobby Zamora with the ball, like, the other people have to, he can only damage you if you let them. Like, nobody reacted at all whenever Zamora had the ball, they were at sea, Austin had the run of the defense, they'd runners coming forward that weren't being tracked. It was just atrocious, and then, like I said, like the build up to the first go, where the ball got lofted over, and Skirtland Johnson do the usual where it's like, like Skirtland, he's huge, but because the ball's five yards to his right, he's like, "Oh, it's okay, it's okay, I don't have to go and win that, I can leave that now." And it just takes some responsibility, going monster the ball, the same with Johnson, like, it's just the same crap all over every single time we come up against one of these scrappy matches, like QPR scoring two, like they could have had four or five in the fourth half. It's absolutely frightened and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Phil, Dejan Lovren, and his amazing aerial lack of ability, what has happened to him? It's like, right, somebody has cast a spell on anyone that signs for us as a defender. It's like, there's a wizard at the elbow at Melville Gates, "Ooh, you cannot defend anymore." That's what a wizard would say, like, "You cannot defend anymore, just standing there stroking as big or no, no, you cannot hit the ball, you cannot kick the ball." Why can't he hit the ball? He came, right, the reputation he comes with now, and many people say, "Oh, no, he's right," but whatever, right, I tell you, you know, it can't be much, I said, "You're going to be struggling to be much worse than what we have, right, I'm going to be struggling to be much worse." But then, he comes in, for his dad, we're told, he's a great distributor to the ball, right? He was reduced to just hoofing everything that came towards him, his passing was atrocious, yes, he wasn't even trying to 60-act-class with the ball, he was just hoofing everything clear, right? Then, when the balls come over, love the balls into you, he cannot read, he can't read them, he's a centre-back that can't read the flick, well, I actually think, and this is mental, now, I think he's played better at right centre-back than he has it, as the left centre-back for us. He definitely has. And honestly, as I said to you earlier on, when we were putting the agenda together, human scare is one of the worst centre-back combinations I have ever seen at the club, right? And Baron, I need him, right, just absolutely atrocious together as a partnership, and the devil is in the detail. We've conceded 12 goals, and 10 of those goals have come with a skirt-lovering partnership. Yeah, so you can't really argue that? You can't, and 10 of the goals have come when a skirt has been in that partnership. We conceded two and three when it was a lover and sack, or despite everyone having criticism without sack on the holler, we were conceding less than a goal again at lover and sack. And that includes an away trip to sports. So you can say that it's not against quality opposition in terms of what's going on. So, you know, we can get here, we can start them for other work, because boy, Jesus, they deserved for that defensive performance that they put in. But when you're looking at Martin Skirtle, who, we're going back to Dave's thing about senior players, every single one of that back four, right, has been, and this is probably a bigger criticism in a way of Rogers. He started off now with a defence there yesterday that had a senior player at right back, a senior player at left back, and another senior player at right centre back, okay? There's enough senior experience players there to have no help to hold out a game, and if they can't hold out a game, they do not deserve to wear the short deliver pill. And I'll be straight with you. John Glenson wasn't the worst player in the defence, and I've criticized him here plenty of times, right? And while he wasn't great, he certainly wasn't the worst that was there. Martin Skirtle and Dave Sandroven should go and hang their heads and shame. That was absolutely outrageously disgraceful in terms of the performance they put in. And I certainly, if they were, I would definitely consider dropping both of them for the game. I'm just so frustrated and so annoyed at the stupidity that's going on in that back four. It's just fucking outrageous, right? And Reekay just caps it off. It's like, it demands well to put a fucking clown's nose on him at half time and put a fucking wig in his head and send him out with fucking chills. It was disgraceful. But it was. It's a disgrace. To do that on a football pitch is an absolute disgrace. And it doesn't stand up for anything. And for a way those goals went at the end, he's completely chilled out. He's completely fucking chilled out and about three different times for the four is gone. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. And I've just, I'm just, I'm fuming over to defend them. Absolutely. You can't, you cannot continue on this way. We're on course to concede 60 goals this season, which has been out, which is fucking ridiculous. And it's like, you can, you can, as I was saying, what a pig in lipstick, but it's still a fucking pig. And that's what we have at the moment in our defense. We've a fucking pig. Yeah, it's a pig of defense. Yes. It is a pig of defense. Jesus, that was good. Anyway, wait, look, with that kind of a basis to the team, you're going to struggle anyway, right? But our midfield attack, certainly our midfield was pretty disjointed and possibly inept might be a better word for us. Just as I come out of the background, I'm on to what you're saying, right? Yeah. It was something that Dave said earlier on about M.A. Jan, right? He was the only one in that forced half that figure out how to play Bobby Zamora. And he ended up covering for Lovren about 90% of the time because Lovren could not do this because Dave Jan was trying to read the ball in the air, but he was the wrong side of the pitch. And I think they come on to the midfield. Yeah, sorry. I think it's a good point. I think it's a good point. I think a lot of people have a lot of people. I think I'm going to give a lot of people saw the drop in the Jared back into the midfield role as a reflection on Jan. It's not a reflection on Jan from me at all. It's a reflection on our ineffective Jared was further forward and Rogers isn't going to take him off. I think I would have, look, we can all I would have pulled Jared at half time and put Coutinho on and left Jan where he was. Yeah, I don't think he's got 90 minutes in him, which is the thing. And actually, again, another thing I saw today was that we look better with Alan on the field. I don't agree with that. I actually thought Jan was better than Alan, you know, for the vast majority. Imagine I had a fantastic match. He was just after 50 minutes to work it out. I also took about 50 minutes for Henderson to understand how he was going to play. And as soon as they understood that Henderson pushed down a bit, but like it wasn't great for us. I don't get me wrong. Like I'm not saying the second half, he looked a lot better when he did push in a bit because he was actually starting to play some really good bars. And there was a great link or play between him and Henderson a couple of times that were like, that was fractionally. He was he was. I like the idea of of Jera Jean and Henderson as a midfield. I think I think when it ended up in the second half, would Jera deep burn a tool in the front of him? I think it's plenty of legs. Lots of physicality. But the captain up the top of it, wherever he wanted to see him, it just didn't happen. I was one of the ones that the wanted to see it. I didn't want to see it for 90 minutes, but I did want to show off in the last minutes of the half or second last minute. I said to Phil, and I'm going to say it now and right now I'm going to get pelters for this. He looked like Ricky Lambert, Jared. He looked as slow as Lambert did mobility was he looked like an old man. And I said it to you tonight. After 20 minutes, I said he looks like an old man. And Jera's got loads of quality. But the fear that he doesn't have that energy that the legs to do that number 10 role in a Rogers system, which is what I said, I think two pods ago, it all came home to us. You can't you can't play him there against a team that's going to run you into the ground. You you just can't. So the switch worked well. Listen, the midfield was was an experiment. And I'm a big fan of Rogers trying things. I like that. I think he should try more things. You know, no problem with him trying it. I think he corrected it. Think of work much better in a second half. I actually thought from the 45th minute to 86th minute, we were actually pretty good. And I think the midfield was a big part of that. And I think that the drop in a Jared, but I like Demra Jan. And I thought Henderson at one point, I think I shouted at the screen, Henderson can't win this by himself, which is what was happening. Like he was basically running round, trying to win everything and do everything and run everything. And Stern and got the headlines. But Henderson did more running, didn't made more breaks was was better than Stern and for the vast majority of that game. Yeah, I'm right. That's fair to say, isn't it? The usual requisite bit of how you're running up calls running about from from from Jordan? Yeah, like like I said, a few weeks back, it feels already for us. Mrs. DeChap just never ever ever ever stops. You know, and in in, in, in, in, in, do your circumstances when when she isn't going your way and you're not playing very well offensively, you need that. And he's a schoon and loite at the rest of them. You know, he seems to be the one that might give them the kick of the ass. He couldn't not play in the same pitch as him and not want to lift your game a small bit when you see the running and the chase and everything. Yeah, well, you think you can't imagine that that wouldn't drive you on. How could you get away with being a lazy bastard when you're watching him do what he's what he's doing with quality as well. It's not just a, he's not just a co-worker or a stat type of, you know, just someone that can run all day. Joris, how about you does scale to his game as well? And, and, uh, deep runs as well. So what did you think of the new man, Chan? Well, um, I, I, I taught you got sort of, what shall I say, you got sucked in with, with, with defensive duties that probably would have rather seem a bit more of them offensively. I know his job was to, if, if, if that makes sense, I would have liked to see him on the ball sort of a bit more options in front of him. He was covering a hell of a lot of walk, you know what I mean? He was covering other people. But so it's sort of it was our job, which probably impacted him a negative, but it's a lot said he did seem to work it out as much as I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At the start, I think the, the place and roasting this, of course, he's had to be in hell for a few weeks, and he's never really played. That was his full start. So that's, you know, that's, it's, it's, it's, it's built to happen almost that he's forced going back in. He's going to find his faith for a bit and then focus for some unknown reason. We're right up for it yesterday. Before we, before we, sorry, go ahead. So you got, you got in a few kind of physical battles with Sandra and with Fair. And I thought he looked really good. Like for someone to come back in, like it's something that we need more of, because like, like, we come up against these teams and we, like, for the past few seasons, we've been looking at the size of midfield, going, Oh, Jesus Christ, like, it's basically Henderson against three big lads. Whereas now we've got Chan and he looks like, like, he looks like he kind of enjoys that aspect of it. And I thought he looked fairly vocal as well. Even in the first 15 minutes when he was struggling, he looked like he was kind of giving out to the defenders saying, you know, what you're still burying me here with the ball or whatever. So he doesn't look shy. You know, I think he's going to be very good. I think it took him 10 minutes to work out. Oh, it's this type of game, where you're going to kick me. All right, that's fine. Now I can play that type of game. Because I think for the first bit, he was trying to be, you know, purer. Yeah. And then he realized, Oh, no, I need to be a bit of a come to you. Yeah. And he'd actually kick him back and push back. And then I thought he grew into it. I thought, you know, there was very promise. Well, before we look at Mr. Ballatelli, what did we think of Adam Lalanna's contribution for? I didn't think again. And we've mentioned it in the reverse when it comes to Coutinho. Like I didn't think he had a particularly good game. He's played very well for us over the last couple of games. And we were saying that they're going to have ups and downs. And it's great having the likes that we can bring Coutinho off the bench to replace him, you know, and change the gear again. And I'm echoing what the lads said. Like, you know, for me, Henderson, you know, he's starting to become a bit of a hybrid player that can boss a team in, you know, in the defense of midfield position. But I started to bring one on like Frank Lampard had to his game in terms of getting ahead. And you know, I am really encouraged. When I started to him and Chan link up in the second half, you know, they seem to have an understanding. Chan seems to be very good. I understand where his runs are going to be. And I was also seeing that parrot that there was a couple of times I was looking like on Jay's, yeah, you can see this. No, Henderson's Boston true. Chan picks up the ball and he's able to run from his own half, get his head up and look to where he's going to play the next ball. And it's something that, you know, moves our team on again. And that's what when we did play a bit better in the second half. And we did. Look, you know, the fourth half of so atrocious that it's very that a cloud's everything that went on in the match. But the second half, I remember taking himself after 20 minutes, right, we've actually got in control of this game. You know what I mean? Like the way we sort of learned how to well, when I say later, you know, they lost Sandra as well because he they lost a bit of midfield. And Zmora wasn't able to get around as much because obviously his energy levels dipped and they were able to handle them down at the back because he wasn't putting himself about as much. But we did play much better in the second half. That was encouraging. And you know, had we gone out there one year, we would have said Jay's was great that we got in at Nilar, because that's that's what turned the game for us. You know, it's what happens from the 86 minute on that then changes the reflection again to what goes on. So you've got 45 minutes of utter shite at the back. And then you've got, you know, 15, it's actually 15 minutes. It's not just the 86 minute because they started to lump bars into us. And we, the heads just went. The heads just went. But back back to the point, Lilana, listen, he's going to have games when it doesn't come off. Yesterday was a game that it didn't come off from. But I don't hold out against them. He's a good squad option for us. He's a good player to come into our force 11, do something special for us. If he's not on form, you bring the, bring Coutinho in. And I know this has taken us into the real positives of what goes on. Look, we can do a baller tell you now at the end of the one. But, you know, looking at Sterling and Coutinho when they came on, you know, we mentioned that when we were talking before the game yesterday, they bring that quick transition back to our game, which was missing. If you're, if you think of the fourth half and we were sitting a bit deep, but we were missing that quick transition. And as soon as he's on the pitch, what Lilana wasn't doing Coutinho was he was getting the head up when he was able to see it. And he could see that Sterling could exploit the pace of both the lack of pace of, of Don and Culk, or if he could, he could try the true ball there. And Jan tried the same team with the boss, Drew Henderson was making the run. So we were trying to get our pastiest players together run against them. We weren't afraid to let them come on and dentually ping it against them. And that's what we were really good at last season. I'm going to go with your live editorial call there, which has completely negated all the baller telly chat. And that was going to be brilliant and gruesome and horrible. So let's just go where your brain, so let's, let's just go, let's just go where, where, where, where, where, where Phil drove there. Talk to, talk to me about Coutinho that like, it's a cameo appearance, but crisis of brilliant one. I mean, that's what we want to see from that kid. Yeah, that passed. That passed at the end. I mean, I thought he was great. I thought he was, he recognized that actually you can run through their midfield. You don't need to keep clipping it over it. Like, I think that's the big thing that he did. He picked up the ball and went, well, I can beat these guys. What the fuck are you doing? As did Sterling. Well, as Sterling did it eventually, but he wasn't doing it all game. I mean, again, I think we can, I'm going to be Park Sterling from the next, I think that there's been a lot said about him. But in terms of Coutinho, I think he came on, he looked for the ball and he realized that it was Carl Henry. So yeah, I can beat them. So what the fuck, what, I just, that's what I felt like he did. And then once he took a couple of periods out of the game, he had the space open in front of him. I think he gave everyone a lift because all of a sudden Henderson was going, if I make the run, there's someone who could find me and Sterling went, well, if I can make the run, there's someone who could find me and Lalana the same. And I think that, um, by the side, all of a sudden, you know, a couple of times we had like four, five different people in the box. And that was because Coutinho moved the entire play forward. The second goal, his goal, it's a great goal. And that's exactly what we'd been lacking all game was just a little bit of composure in the 18 yard box. And it was like, no, you know, a couple of times he was bored the line. You were going to get frustrated with him. He was taking on too many touches. And then he scored that goal. And I swear to God, oh my God, I loved everyone at that moment. Gotta hate that everyone about two minutes later. But no, he was really good. And I think that Rogers again, you know, gets a lot of criticism, but that's the right change. That was the right change at the right time. You know, we were, we were one hell up when we broke Coutinho on, we should have gone further ahead. You know, we had a couple of chances to go further ahead. And because he's on the pitch, when we get the setback, it was like him and Sterling went right, go back to what we were doing last season, just go fast and score. Ray, Dave eludes there to Raheem Sterling and the way that he sort of developed and got stronger as the game went on, ironically. And there was some very pointed comments that all of you know, in the post match where Brendan, before he spoke about anything else, highlighted Raheem's energy and how well he had done. And basically how, you know, how high his energy levels were, which is clearly a fuck you to all Roy. How did you feel he did in the day? Yeah, like you said, I took him, took him along for him to get into the game. Maybe due to a lack of space where he was back to his side of the user, he was going into cul-de-sacs and stuff, just couldn't get into the game and running into players, just nothing in the past. And as the game went on then, just, it's a space, a small bit of space is all the Japanese. And once he was afforded that, then we're seeing the Sterling that we are now and bleeding all the lawyers. You know, he was back and he's taking the ball. It's something that most teams have cut their fucking Roy hand off, or you can give this guy the ball on the edge of your own box and within three or four seconds, you're up attacking it and you're going to read it. And that's not just running into space. He can go boy territory players as well. He's, you know, when he's that looked at now, he's untouchable, you know. And it was, like, total opposite to, like I said, at the start of the game, very, very quick. But once he got afforded a small bit of space, I thought he was absolutely magnificent. Would you have backed Mario to score that goal from the center that Raheem puts in if I hadn't gone in for an ongoing, which one? The, the win-and-go, like, I don't know, because I, as good a certain was, I think that, that passes back. It looked like it was behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So no, I wouldn't have backed Mario to score. Yeah. No, no, no. Talk to me a little bit about him as soon as we have left it. It's a, it's a glaring omission. We should probably just mention it a couple of times. Um, a lot of what I saw worried me, they're kind of, I think, I think people have keep calling them lazy. And I think that, I think that's a lazy kind of thing to throw at him, because they just don't run around a lot. Sorry. But, but it is, it's a lazy thing to say, but I'll just say that. No, he's lazy. Because he's not, he does run around. It's his mindset. This, you know, the shooting from absolutely everywhere. Like it, that game was a horrible scrapper, scrappy game. And like he, you know, things like, you know what, the ball bounced up to him, they're the half volley that he shanked about 50 yards over. Like he's already had a couple of wild swipes when there's players in better positions. He knows that we're, like, we're struggling to get out of the defense. We need to put, keep the ball and push up. Like there's, there's so many reasons for him not to hit, hit that. And as well as that, the way the ball is bouncing up, there's so many reasons for, for him not to deal with that to just keep the ball. But it, like, it doesn't, it doesn't compute with him. All his choices were wretched on the day, weren't they? They just were consistently awful. And, but there's no kind of, like, you'll see strikers do selfish things all the time. But then they'll, they'll make up for it. They're kind of going, Oh, Jesus, that was bad. I, I better cut an ego, I better muck you in here and I'll kind of link the play, but I'll make sure I keep the ball. But then like, there's no, that doesn't kind of flag up with valetelli. It's just like, Oh, this is just like a game of FIFA. Next time I get the ball, I'll just shoot from 40 yards again. And I just saw every time he got the ball, it just looked like he, you know, whenever we got a good bit of support up with him, and it just looked like he taught their job is to distract the other, they defend us so I can get a shot on now. Like, like, he, he didn't release the ball at all. Yeah. And he didn't link the play at all. I just saw it worried me his mindset at this kind of, I'm going to shoot every time I get the ball. I just think it's a kind of a bit of a fuck you to his teammates. It's a bit Mario centric. Would you agree with that? Look, I think he had a poor game in overall sense, right? The only thing I'm saying, I've seen people say, well, we might as well put Lambert in because he shot clicked. I mean, the one, the one thing I'd say is, despite, despite how bad it was yesterday for him, he's still in the box getting chances. Like the one thing that hasn't happened with Lambert is, I can't remember the last time Lambert has had a clear chance. I think the last one I remember was Man City Way when, when he had that chance to, to bring it to Treat Hill. Like, I can't remember, I can't remember Lambert being in the box or being in position. And even when we, we go to the two goals or two goals, the, the done one, and the one that we're just talking about there, what do you score for me? He's there, if you know what I mean. Like he, the ball is going across to where he's at, where he actually is for a tapping. So as hard and as, as critical as you can be on him, he's getting into the positions. He's getting into the box. He might need to be more intelligent in terms of what he does in the box to actually get the goals. And he was getting criticized for, you know, the one that he, he actually ran to the near post and tried to clip it back in terms of what it was. But that's, that's a very, like he's, he's almost outside the frame of the front post and he's trying to pull it back over the actual goalkeeper now. People say, I would actually just clip the back around or whatever. But to do that is really awkward. As the ball has come towards you, you're going to have to change it, change the flight and get the lift on it. And he tried what he thought was going to come off. It didn't come off. I think I think it's a bit like me and you like, we're talking about earlier, because things haven't happened from this season, right? Because, you know, he's missed chances that you would have expected him to score. Everything he does wrong now is going to be magnified and magnified even more in terms of what's going wrong, because it just doesn't look like it's happening for him. And all you hope it does, I hope, I hope it gets it. But I don't think, you know, I don't think Rodgers is helping me either, because like, looking at the way we played with the quick, fast, aggressive style again, you know, to actually end up with the goals, like for the life of me, I cannot understand why he hasn't played sterling alongside him. What about that show? No partner for him. Well, at hand, before we go on to what we should do in the future. So I did say I would try to be positive about it. But it's a couple of things. First of all, the Lambert show is ridiculous, because he, ballot area on his worst day still occupies a defender, a defender still has to go with him and kick him, right, which seems to be at all defenders to do it. If Lambert's playing, defenders don't even need to worry about it. Just leave him alone. He's not going to do anything. So ballot area, at least, is a threat, you know, he occupies defenders. He is a nuisance. But if I was Rodgers, I would, I would give him one instruction. He is not allowed to shoot outside the 18 yard box. If he gets the ball outside the 18 yard box, he's got to pass. And if he did nothing differently, yes, if you never ran a single yard further, anything like that, just passed it when he was outside the box, he would have brought so many more players into play. And he actually would have had a pretty good game without scoring. And this is where I think the system has to be different. It can't be around. How do you get 20 goals out of ballot area? Because he's not going to score 20 goals until storage. He's not going to look at scoring 20 goals until he's got a partner. And I don't think Stern is that guy, but we come on to that. What you've got to say to him is Mario, don't worry about scoring. These players around you score, bring them into the box. So every time you get the ball, he is brilliant at getting the ball at pace into his chest or into his feet, trapping it or controlling it, even watch the game yesterday. He did that. He never lost the ball when the ball came near him. What he loses the ball is when he tries and turns to beat three players to shoot for 40 yards. So it's his decision making that's the problem. My final thing I'd say is the press he has got today is absolutely disgraceful. The things that have been written about. I haven't seen it. Is it the usual lazy stuff about it? It is ridiculous. I tell you now, he was no worse yesterday than Lukaku was played for the majority of the season, that Remy played for Chelsea yesterday, that countless other strikers have had games like that this season. And the narrative that's around him, I feel sorry for the game. He was not even in the top five worst players we had on the field. He wasn't. That's so bad that was... Enrique was the five. Because he occupied five different positions and all the bad positions at the wrong time. I'm a big Mario fan. I think he's getting a shitload of harsh criticism now. I did, obviously, it was my main ascent. I sent a text at the worst possible 20 minutes, saying, "Do do many gets chances and we've got to chance. We've got to be up and go." I told Albert, but it's my only disappointment. All I was saying over yesterday was his lack of celebration when we got the winner. We just conceded to equalize in injury time. And then we go and get a winner and he puts a little clench face on it. My bollocks, I would have been up the length of the pitch, top off into the crowd. That's what you want. And Charles, maybe it is... The self-estruaker team, maybe. He wants to be the man getting them goals. And maybe that's where he's feeling the pressure. He can see what's being written about. I think he's genuinely pissed off himself. I think he knows he didn't play yesterday, play well yesterday. And actually, if you listen to Rogers after the game, Rogers, I don't know what you're saying, but he has been guilty in the past of it, saying bad things. But Rogers was spot down about bilateral yesterday. You know what I mean? He cut them a lot of slack yesterday. He cut them a lot of slack. And the press were just... They were just dying for Rogers to throw him under the bus and fair prey to Rogers for not doing it. Look, he did not have a good game. He did not have a good game, right? But if he scores that goal... And I said it yesterday, if he scores the goal against Everton, I think we're talking about a different player. His confidence is a little low. He's got to shrug it off and he's not going to get dropped. He's going to play every game until Sarwich comes back. And we've just got to hope the one goes in. And I think we'll see a different player there. Can we just finish on a particular beat note, which is that we did get the win. And it was in the most dramatic of circumstances. I said here last week, when we talked about it, I said the only thing that mattered on Sunday was three points. It doesn't matter how we get them, or what way we got them. And the one thing I will say about yesterday's results is it's a galvanising result. It's like that stock game last year where we say where the penalty is saved, and then the rebound is saved. And from the jaws of a draw, you get a win. Now, just in the opposite way, we've showed so much hurt, so much character, so much, you know, courage and moral conviction, moral conviction, but you know, I forget as such a kick in the balls, a two-hour, 94 minutes on the clock, there was only four minutes of injury time to be played, right? I was waiting for the whistle to go straight as soon as we tipped off, to just show, you know, that level of resilience to say, "Fuck it, there's another chance in us here." You know, and to see the young kids do it, not the old heads, but the continual sterling. It was them who drove the whole thing. From the 86, but when we can see the equaliser, it's continual, who says, "This is fucking error day, and I'm not letting this go." He drives it. It's the same with Sterling. He drives it down. He's 96, 95 minutes, and Sterling is busting his bollocks to get from the halfway line in a diagonal line, like a jetpack across that pitch to get on the end of the true bar from Catania, which is pinpoint accurate. You know, that makes you just go, "Yes." And I tell you what, the celebrations at the end of that game, like that was that hair in the back of the neck, and it's ridiculous, it's QPR, but it meant so much to us as a fan base, to not have thrown away a game that we should win. And I know it sounds ridiculous to be QPR, but we put three points. It's a point accumulation here in Christmas. It's more than that, because people have been talking all season about what we had last season has got. You know, it feels like it's gone. We haven't seen much of it. Spurs aside, we haven't seen much of it. But the one thing we had last season, and we have it, albeit not through our entire squad, but we have it in players like Catania, Sterling, and Henderson is, we always think we'll score another goal. We always think, and we did it against West Brom, when we had a setback against West Brom and goes to 1-1, you know, and we could score another goal. And we scored two goals after the 91st minute, two goals, because we just went, we could score another goal. It's a good point, too, to feel nice, and people cared. I mean, the atmosphere in that place was unbelievable. But it's either going to be a false stone, right, or it's going to feel like a massive, massive result. My thing is, it's a galvanizing result. And if you're playing badly, and if you're trying to work things out, Roger said this, if you're playing badly, trying to work things out, it's important to be winning while you're working those things out. And we're winning, and that's the reality of it. And we could be dealing with fat abel, or Adele, Terab to his tree stone belly. Listen, I'll tell you what, if there's a more horrible creature in football that's already read now, like, literally the fella is never taking the blame for hunting with my... There's a boss trolling there. Oh my god. Whatever it is. Look, if Terab has such a poor thing, it should be, it's his job as a manager to turn him around. And if he can't... How does it get to that stage? If he can't do that with a player, then he doesn't deserve to be in the job. And you know what? Red not just fuckin' hate Red. It was enjoyable to watch him out there. Let's be really clear here. Kupia were not unlucky. They ballzed it up, right? They should have won that game. The game is there for them to win. This isn't about them being unlucky. They weren't done by a dodgy decision. They weren't done by a dodgy penalty. Carl Henry said they were like 11-year-olds. It was ridiculous. I mean, for them not to come away with a point is all rednap. It's all rednap and they should have come away with three. I mean, seriously, you know, so him throwing Terab done to the bus after he's just overseen, like, a fucking catastrophe, you know, from the upper-spec. If we forget the way around, we'd be slaughtering Rogers on that. It's the whole thing. It was my fault. And look over there. There's a balloon. There's a balloon. Yeah, there's a balloon. Look, and it's the shape of adult Terab. Yep, that'll do us. Right, we should look forward to something very nice in the horizon, which is Liverpool versus Real Madrid. A massive Champions League night as big as it gets. Euro royalty facing off at Anfield. Ray, are you excited? And if not, what's wrong with you? Yeah, of course, I'm excited. I'm excited to be watching this game from underneath me sofa on Wednesday. Look, it was here a few weeks ago talking about the romance of Anfield and special place on the European Union. It doesn't get any bigger than Madrid there. You couldn't not be exoated, but to sign to him. We haven't been filling ourselves with confidence and we have a team that are scoring for the crack coming to our stadium. Looking forward to it's a big occasion, but I don't know where it's the game itself. I don't know. I don't know. The occasion, yes, the game. Not so much. Well, we'll break down the game and have a look at the different aspects of it, but just one more initial reaction from you, Paul, and Ray touches on something there. This is a team who scored, I think, three times, they've scored five in the league, once they've scored eight, and they've got five in the Champions League as well, again, so it's a ludicrous or a basil. It's lucky. Yeah, the fence is there, then. Thanks, Royce. What a way. Are you looking forward to this? And now, Ray and Madrid have scored 100 billion yards in the last two games. The question is, how much are you enjoying this question? 100 trillion golds. The question is, is it anticipation, or is it slight anxiety, or what is it for it? Obviously. Yeah, obviously you have to be a bit nervous of them, like the way they've started the season and the players that they've got, but I think, I can see us being, like, you know, awful against them. I think we will kind of, we will have to raise it a bit, so I'm fairly confident that we are, I'm not confident that we'll win, but I'm confident that it's not going to be the embarrassment that, like, a lot of people are saying that it will be. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to this. Fearless, there's something wrong with me, because I actually think- There's no trouble here, Royce, I actually, I'm not even slightly worried about this. I cannot fucking wait for this once Moreno's playing, and maybe Manchios playing. Now you're prefficent, yeah, there are a few conditions, but, you know, given a few tweaks, I'm really looking forward to this, is that wrong? No? No? I mean, am I an idiot to think we can pull off a result here? Yeah. Well, not just for that, dude. Jesus. Stay with the talent, come on. No, look, it's Madrid. It's the Champions League. It's not the knockout stages, right? But for us, we need to get a result over, because we bawled the puzzle away, right? So, you know, we need to get a result over, and if we want to get, if we want to sort of, you know, say to ourselves, yeah, top the group, you know what I mean? And get an easier draw on the next round. Yeah, we're going to top ourselves. But look, if you can't enjoy, as a fan and as a team, even, enjoy the idea of Raya Madrid coming to play in the Champions League, and there's just no point in finishing the top four. This is what you get into the Champions League for. These are the games that you want to be involved in. Yeah, I can't, I think, that the looks are continual, and sterling, you know, and Chan even, and even Gerard, because he's been out for so long in terms of the Champions League, it's not bussing to get out there in a win. You know, and put it up against Raya Madrid. Let's not forget how to defend in European champions. So, it's not just Raya Madrid common as Raya Madrid. It's Raya Madrid common as defending European champions. That fucking death in my Raya Madrid. Yeah, you know, with the five European Cup games. It's, it's, it's, not good at the Spanish, not bad. Four, five, down the counter. They're like just friendly games. But no, like, come on, look at it. It's brilliant. This is what you want in the Champions League, and it's back to back. We, it's, it's, you've only got a couple of weeks until we go to, to the Bernabeu and play them again. So, I'm, I'm, I'm bussing for that. Right. Well, let's, let's talk about some specifics then. I didn't mention, um, some of the, yes, you said preferences. What do you think? What, what changes do we think are likely chaps? We start, I play Jones and goal. And then I said, right, Dave Thomas. Oh, listen, I, I listened. If that happened, I wouldn't be that upset. I dropped the whole back fight. I play in Ricky and Gore. He couldn't be anymore, especially if he has the clown hands on and the clown shoes on. He'd be glad. Look, he's going to play mini-lays. He's going to play love run. He's going to play skirt. So those three are going to start. I think he's going to play Johnson. Yes. I mean, he's going to play a Moreno. Yeah. So that's the back five. You know, if Stephen Jarrett starts any game from now on, he starts in the deep midfield. They're all, I think that little experiment should only happen for the last 30 minutes of a game. So then you got Jared in midfield. Um, that's continue. I want to place back, do you think? Yeah, but in the front three, not the middle three play. I don't know Henderson or, or Jean and Henderson, probably Alan and Henderson, and then continue serving volatility. And that's enough, do you think? No, it's not enough. If you're not excited that that could actually do the job. Look, this, I think this is a really tough game to predict, right? Because there's, there's lots of it which terrifying not if you're a bookie. No, but so here's my, my first point would be, is Real Madrid at home considerably harder than Man City away. It isn't, right? It's, you know, it's harder, but it's not considerably harder. And, you know, we put it up to Man City for about four or five minutes in our game. So, you know, we can extrapolate that out. Look, there's, so it could go, they could just come and play to the, if they play to the best of their potential, we have, we'll lose, right? Because they're at their best is better than us and our best. But there's no guarantee they're going to be at their best. They have had a few actually dodgy performances this year. They're not a solid defensively, neither are we. So if they come and attack us, maybe the pace of Sterling, Coutinho, Henderson can get at them. And then it's anybody's game. I think we will raise our game. I think Jared's going to be up for it. I think we tend defensively to perform better in the bigger games, you know, not necessarily this season, but if you look over Roger's, his time, you know, in the bigger games, we tend to be a little bit more solid. You know, it's Anfield, it's Wednesday nights under the latest Real Madrid at home. Anything could happen. You know, anything could happen. Will he go with the blitz rig type of all-out attack from the fourth few minutes that served us out well in European games before? He'd love to see that. Yeah, but that's what we want to see. He won't want to see. He won't want to see. He won't want to see it. But go balls. He'll just go at the basket straight from the office. So, what's the gonna happen? Exactly. We lose. There we go. Which everyone 99% is expecting us to do anyway. So why not? Just go at them and maybe they're expecting the low on confidence, live uphill team. Maybe the crowds, maybe they might be up for it. Just give the team that little portion. Just say fuck this lads. Let's go for it. Have you read the Arab Law interview? And you'll read the Arab Law interview today, that you spoke about coming back and on the rest. What am I going to do? Okay. Fuck's sake. That's the stupid setup you got. I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to help you. Work it out. But interestingly, Arab Law, although he was very, very respectful, he didn't mention the way he spoke about Anfield. It was almost quaint, but in comparison with their wonderful facilities and stuff like that. Talked about the one peg that you have for all your stuff and stuff like that. That was quite interesting. But look, this is our patch. This is, this is Anfield, and surely we can look forward. I'm not getting this from you lads. I'm looking for something that you're not giving it to me. Surely we can look forward to this game thinking that we will win. Do you want, do you want belief that we will win? I want to win. And I believe we'll win. Well, we all want to run podcast. We'll say Troy is our next door. We all want to win. Everyone wants to win. I actually believe we will. Look, I think there's a logical argument that says we can win. The way we win this game is that we have to lift our game, which we invariably do in the bigger matches. That means that the concentration issues that are back for have every single one of them has to be eradicated. And that's not impossible. Just not probable. Just not impossible, right? Now, after that, we have to exploit their weaknesses. They're going to play very narrow. They're not playing with wingers. They're playing with Hamish, and they were playing with Isco. More or less is tucked in wingers. In the sort of 4-2-2 formation that we experimented with last year, okay? So they're going to play 2-cent of forwards up in Ronaldo and Chigarito, wherever it is up to Troy occupy our defeated. Yeah, I know they started to be ignored. So we have to exploit that with. Now, when Dave comes around to Johnson, if you want to argue that Johnson's in, you're arguing on the fact that they're going to leave the flanks open and it's going to allow him to bomb down the flanks, right? And the same from Moreno, he's going to have all the space in the world to bomb down the flanks, right? So for me, anyway, that's where we get to them. We get down the flanks. We don't do the aimless crossing. We look then to do the pullbacks, et cetera, and create chances. Because, you know, Cassius has been terrible this season for them, right? And the one thing we have to do is, when a shot goes off and it's on target, we need to make sure that somebody follows us. Somebody is following up because he's spilling stuff all over the shop, right? And that's where we exploit. We exploit them at the back. We know there's talk that Ramos is out. If Ramos is out for him, he's in a veran. Look, it's an absolute Rolls-Royce of a centre-back that they have there, right? But Pepe's there. You can get into Pepe's head, you know what I mean? They probably told- You don't want to be in there. Well, you can imagine Mario getting into his head, you know, that would just be an absolute- Insane. But, you know, you send them out and you get- You get staring at him, trying to draw him into felds and everything, you know, and then, you know, you get the sniggly thing going down the back of his leg, which is studs and everything like that, you know, you get into him and you get into him, you get into him- Gee, I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because that's what you do to get in. And he will go wild at some stage. He will ask you, and, you know, that's where you win, and you get him sent off, they get down to 10 men, and you exploit their weaknesses. You most exploit their weaknesses. They aren't as strong in the centre-mid field as they were last year when they had the lones over there. What about pinning Marcello and as a car of a hal back? What about the idea of pinning their full backs? Well, they're going to look to come on against us. They're from now, they're going to look to come on, and that's where we exploit the space. That's where you have staring, that's where you use continual to exploit- get in. When they come on to us, we then look to overload. If one of them comes on, then you look to overload behind them. You tell Sterling, whichever one of those fallbacks is coming forward, you take your position off that, and then you look to get one of their fallbacks into that space as well, and you overload them with as much pace as we can. I take our pressing game from last season, so it should really come to the forward as soon as they won't be used. If we can replicate it, it should be said. It's just to see a month or two minutes, don't give them it two seconds on the bar, shall we say, just in their fucking face. What about that idea of how central the atmosphere is going to be to feel this motivation and the whole Anfield mythology? Our crowd has been very, very jumpy, hasn't appalled us here, and sometimes the silence is deafening at Anfield. There's probably a fake old chance of that, but at the same time- I think this- I think- Look, you hope so. No, no, no, listen, it reminds me so much of the four season when we played Manchester City at home and the fourth home game on the Brandon Rogers, right? The Logarets, fine, it's Logarets. I don't care what anyone says, that was always likely to be, yes, after the initial boards that we'd never walk along, the Champions League are not going to go on the whole lot. This is different. This is Real Madrid, the European Champions, playing in Anfield. Well, fucking better. This is going to be Boson. Boson from a Hoyt, right? That's when you're saying that can we win? Yes, we can. I think the crowd is going to be well up for this, and I think the most important thing is, even if something stupid happens, which could, with our team, I think this crowd will stay with them through the game because they know that they're going to have a big impact in terms of what goes on. So, for the first game, we've played in a long time when we're underdogs. I mean, even last season, we were playing so well. Our two toughest games in the second half of the season were City at home and Chelsea at home, and we were favourites to win both of those, or at least evens on both of those games. It's been a long time since we went into a game, probably Chelsea away last season was the last time we went into a game as not favourites. And I think that pre-start strength, I think it frees us up a little bit. I think we'll have, we'll press more, the crowd will be there. So, a win is not out of the, it's not out of the realms of possibility. It's a very tough game, and we have to be considerably better than we were. Well, our defence will be better. You've got Chan, who's got more legs on them now, you've got Alan back, you know, we will be better. But do you see someone, maybe do you see the tactics altered specifically to help Mario out with a partner? No. No. I don't think you will. And I don't think, as I said earlier, I don't think he necessarily needs to. Mario just needs to recognise that his primary job is to bring others into play, not to be the person on the end of the chances. And I think if he makes that, it's not a small adjustment. But if he makes that adjustment to his game, brings other players in, we know we've got players around him who can score. And actually, he might score from the third phase of play, rather than trying to score from the initial phase of play when he gets to the ball. I don't think he's going to play Sterling up front. I hope he doesn't play lamb, but Oberini up front, because I think they're both terrible. I can see the algorithm for Sterling, but then Sterling's going to cause damage anywhere as long as he's centrally. And I would play and personally, where he can do the most damage, which is behind the striker, not in front of the striker. My only hope is that the Rodgers doesn't go out there and try to contain them, because I think if he does that, we can't do that. So we may as well embrace the madness, and as mad as it sounds, trying to score a halitrade. That's the only thing I could do. I'll buy that last year when I think we could, but I'm not so sure we can do it this year. The only thing I say, going back to your point, if you start continuing on Sterling in this game, for me, I would almost set them up and say, "Here's the roles you will have to play. You're not set in set positions." What I want is I want Sterling as I say, and exploiting the space, whatever fallback goes, that's your position on the pitch. You go in and drop into the hole that's there, and he's held continue almost. What I want you down is hovering about 20, 24 yards on the opposite side to him. The idea being that those true balls that we're seeing on Sunday, he's in the right position to serve as that true ball. And because if you can get the ball there, you've got Sterling now on the run. So they're all going to be coming back to try and cover the space where Sterling is, and he goes on a diagonal, and under space, he'll open up the front of you. And what Mario has got at doing, and what he did against QPR, he didn't get enough credit for, he started pulling out wide in that last few minutes, and what it was doing was creating that space for the lads to flow through. And that will be how we can score against Reimadred. Can we beat them? Yes, we can. Like Bob the Builder. Right. Well, it's coming naturally to a point then where we should see how we think was going to go. So Paul, how would you see us? Give me a prediction. Two all. Two all. Yeah. Right. Yeah, well, it's probably echoed. Yeah, two all. I can say it's definitely going to be goals. Goals, and there's no fences. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, I'm hoping for a tree nail ball. Two well teams, more realistic. Two well's your share. What do you think, Dave? Oh, you got me nicely pumped. You know, Trev, so I'm going to say we are winning three two. Three two, yeah, which is precisely the score. I would go for a fill. I'm going to go for the rarest of things. A martin skirt, a clean sheet, and we win two nail. You're a fucking spacer. I love that. And Glenn Johnson starts. I don't know what's going on, Ted. They're just glad that's right. Oh, it's my feet. Okay, with another game coming up, which is whole, we need to make reference to that too, but it's very, very difficult for us to talk about who's going to even be in the lineup, given the potential for change with injuries and people being tired and rotation and all the rest of it. But let's just do a little bit of lip service anyway. What do we make of this side that we're playing whole Steve Bruce's whole team? What do we think of them? What are the strengths and weaknesses and how should we set up against them? Dave Thomas, have you any cuts on whole particularly? Yeah. I mean, there's a bit of a curate greedy. I think their results haven't really reflected their performances. Whenever I've watched them, they've, you know, they've looked pretty good. They got a lot of gold. Yeah, and they got a bit of power up front. You know, they got this Hernandez guy who's scored against Arsenal. They've got Aluko, you know, and I mean, a little bit worried after seeing what, you know, I was almost dismissive of Yalovich, and then I watched Bobby Zamora take had to find this in the cleanest Sunday. So I'm a little bit worried, but they've got a little bit about them. Their confidence is a little low. I think they've only won twice since the middle of August. So they've got a lot of draws. So, you know, they're a little bit suspected of the back, but they're not short of a goal or two. I think it's going to be important that we start well, and I think it's going to be important that we score early to calm them down. My other worry is I don't think people are going to, people right now are not frightened about playing Liverpool. They're not frightened about coming to Anfield, and we've got to turn that around a little bit. You know, I think we need to start with Hall. And Steve Bruce and his big fan head has never been scared of coming to Liverpool. Steve Bruce loves a winner Anfield. He loves a willingness Liverpool, and he's a good manager, and he's a little bit like Redknap, how QPR up for it. He's going to have Hall up for it, and they work against Arsenal, and they will be against us. Yeah, Ray, they beat QPR, I think, they're opening match, and then they draw one all with Stoke. They got beat by Aston Villa, and loads of two all draws with Arsenal, with West Ham, with Newcastle as well, and the defeat by Man City there, where they might score two goals as well. So when you've got a setup like that, you've got a team that can score goals clearly, even in defeat. It leaves you thinking again about our defence, and it leaves you hoping that against Rayal that we get something going here, which we can bring into that match, doesn't it? Yeah, well, that's exactly what you're looking for, momentum. Remember, I'm here in the world, I come here, I started praying for the International Break, and saying regroup, and reorganise as Arsenal, that that didn't happen. We'll see what will happen there with Madrid. Like you said, this could be huge for us to Madrid game, if we were to win more importantly, a good performance, a good offensive performance, and maybe they just send out, there was the fair factor that was there last year. All the teams were beaten nearly before they stepped on the pitch, they were shooting, they were going to concede to a three goal. I am fearful that we're Bruce, he's just even out of the bell beating, he knows how to stop us fucking winning the mallehead bastard. So, yeah, a tough game, it's dependent on wins, they say what way we're going into it, yeah? Yeah, Paul, they have a few players that, you know, like the Lexi Diami and Laz like that, who are good solid citizens, that would sort of worry you a little bit in terms of getting about our midfield, if we're not on it, if we're not on it, if we're not on it. Him and like himself, and Livermore, like there's plenty of power and legs there, which is, historically, what we've kind of struggled against under Rogers, and like, right on Madrid, that game, obviously, they've got superstars now, but we'll set up to try and combat that a bit, at least, whereas whole, like, we'll go out to beat them and Abilhar Nanda's, again, Scotland, Northern, terrifying is me, because he's big, he's like, "The goal? Me again, it's good." And you've got a bit of bet you're ready, you've got a bit of bet, yeah. Like the goal he scored against Arsenal, that just looked exactly like the type of goal he'd score against us, you know, catch is one of the defenders, flat-footed, like, he's big, he's like, he's mobile, and he'll catch one of the defenders, flat-footed, and score it, head or something, he's like, "Ah, no." It's amazing, that we're actually more fearful, in the way of Madrid, because our defense is fucking nuts. All who last lined up, Harper, Chester, Dawson, Davies, Elle Muhammad, Deyame, Holingston Livermore, Robertson, Robertson, Hernandez, and Yellovitch, and we're shitting it. And Harper got injured, so that sounds to their toward, their toward keeper. Harper got injured, yeah. So, and Harper was the replacement, so, yeah. So, they'd entered our toward keeper, and we'll have a worldy. Exactly, yeah. Oh, no, no. That's the always deal. Yeah, so. Look, right, so much of this game is going to depend on what happens on Wednesday night, right? And it's the whole turnaround from the Champions League games, and then playing the League match afterwards. And we have to learn how to win the games directly after, right? And it comes back to the QPR situation again, doesn't matter how we win on the weekend, just once we win. You know what I mean? Again, it's just getting those three points on the board, and keeping the room going. Take three from this, take three from Newcastle, and, you know, we've torn it down nicely when we get to the 10 match stage, because we're on 19 points down at that stage. And that's almost your two points again that we're always talking about here. You hear this debate, don't you feel about which ones you'd rather have, blah, blah. I want both. I know you want them both, but look, to be honest with you, for me, as I said, the Champions League will take care of itself because of who it is that we're playing against on Wednesday night. I don't think you have to worry about that, right? What we need then, we need so much focus, and so much, you know, mental strength going into the actual whole game to realise that there's no point in us getting a great result against Real Madrid and Wednesday if we don't go out and be whole at the weekend, because we want to be back in the Champions League next year. We want to be, you know, we want to be there, and we also want to be competing at the end of the season for the League title. And however, far away, that seems at this moment in time, putting points that go on the board against whole in October after a big match against Real Madrid, are the points that you rely on when you come to the end of the season and your final position where you're going to be. We're in fifth, we're joined fourth, you know what I mean? And depending on whatever happens with the United States, and it's only goal difference that separates us. We've scored the same amount of goals as we scored at this time last season. All that is, we're conceding more goals than we were at this point last season. So what we have to do now is realise that while we haven't got storage, we can score goals, and while we haven't got storage, we have to win the matches. As much as we have to dig deep, win the games, put the points on the board, it doesn't matter. That whole team will come out. Bruce is always fired up for the games against us. I hate Bruce, right? Like, I respect what he's doing on the holdup, but he's fucking annoyed at shown through, and you know, he bends over when fucking... When he goes, when he goes, when he plays, you know, the inevitably there was a 127-0 or something like that, right? So, you know, he's going to come out fired him all up, but he used to do it when he was at Wigan, did the same as that bearing him the whole lot. He'd be happy to take a draw against us. And that's the way he'd set up. Like, when he comes to us, he won't necessarily be thinking about winning, but he knows he's going to get chances. And he's going to tell them, "Listen, that's, all we're going to do, we play for freeze around the edge of the box, we float it into the box, and we look, those two fellas are a pleasant spoon to turn to halves. They won't know what to do, right? You're my love and you'll miss every header, and he'll try coming in front of you, say to Hannah and us, "You know what to do, just stand there, let them come around the front, if you miss judges the head of the bar, it's going to drop you, you can turn them away." We're going to miss. That's exactly what it's going to do. So, it's up to the arrow lads to stand up and say, "We're not clutters. We aren't the fucking circus shoulder factor. This is time to stand up. Take the galvanoids in effect from the QPR game, take it into the hallway." We're loving the galvanoids. Yeah, galvanoids, yeah. Past the factory early on. And take it in and fucking put the three points into it. That's all on three points, not at three points. Are you galvanized, Dave Thomas? And if so, what result would you predict for this much? Listen, I'm perfectly permanently galvanized. Good life. My view on this is that we are more likely to get better than we are to get worse, because we have better players than they're showing right now. So, if you take that to its logical conclusion, we'll get better, we'll win more games, we'll put in better performances. I'm a little bit like Phil right now. If the performances aren't coming, which they don't look like they are, there's a lot of stuff that needs to be worked out, just get the wins. I don't care if it's, you know, bilaterally, handballing it into the net. I don't care. That's actually an idea, frankly. I think that it's going to be a very difficult game, but we've got to get back to giving them something. So, we talked all about this whole preview, right, as all been about how they can exploit our weaknesses. We've got to turn that on its head, start giving teams things to worry about, and that has to come from the manager and the players starting to believe, which hopefully they're starting to believe that actually we can score goals. We've got an offensive formation, even with Balletelli, even in a system that people think isn't quite working, we're scoring goals. So, we've got five goals in the last two games, we've got to keep going, we've got to realize that that is our best weapon, our best weapon is to try and blow them off the park by scoring more goals. So, what I want to see is that floating crosses into the box and levering is irrelevant because we've already run them off the park with pace and power that we've got up front. In terms of our prediction, I fancy as to put on a show, I think we'll win three now. Nice, right, do you see something that comfortable or how do you see them now? No, no, Toby, no, Toby, take a one-nail-tier one, yeah, just to briefly have his team extremely hard to beat, and I wouldn't say a clown, let's see, you think they'll report by the goal, Paul? Yeah, Paul, for three, Abilhan and there's definitely going to score a hatcheque, so we need to go first. We need to score four, yeah. Yeah, I think it'll be tight, but I think we'll win, but maybe two-one, I will guess, Phil. For one of the whole... Ladies! Boy, took you so long, I don't know, but... I was thinking about giving a real score, and then I'm scared how jinxed it. Yeah, I know, yeah. Two-one. No, don't say that! You can just say, you can just say it collaboratively. I am Lujware, you are listening to Tripper's Chats, with Tripper. Okay, we'll start at Tripper's Chats with a question from Carlos P, which came from Twitter, and Carlos is just echoing what an awful lot of other people have been asking us to talk about, for a couple of weeks in a row, and we just haven't gotten around to it. And that is basically all the moment and growing up about the instructors that we have, what would you have gone for if you had an ideal world? And basically, why didn't we go for someone like he suggests Tevez as a replacement for Suarez, given what he refers to as "engaga tellis troubles." So Phil, why didn't we go for Carlos Tevez? Look, I think Tevez is a fair shout, but the problem with Tevez was when he was in Manchester is that he didn't want to live in England. That's a problem right there. But genuinely, but I think Tevez, if you get a child of money out of him, he would have come over and played for us. But he would have been an ideal replacement. He runs all day. He barreled out true defenders, and he would have been very similar in style. It doesn't have the quality, obviously, but has necessary quality in scores. It would have been a fair shout in terms of what it is. I think if we don't sign Balotelium and say we don't sign Markovitch and just look to have somebody else to play when storage inevitably gets cracked for 20%, 20% of the games, I would have looked to bring in somebody to play alongside him as well in the idea of playing with Balotelium. I think realistic options for us. If you put 40, 45 million euro on the table for the likes of Cavani or Higuain, I think they become realistic possibilities. I definitely think Higuain would have been a decent sign because he can play. He can play as a two. He plays as a long striker as well. He plays after the shoulder. He plays very much in the way that we want to play when storage is playing as a striker. But he's also played alongside Benzema. He's also played alongside Messi when he's playing for Argentina. He knows how to play in a two. He can play in a one. I think he would have been a really good option for us to go for. I know that was talk of us that potentially might have looked up to do something with him to bring Lucas in, but it comes back to again what we identified as being our primary target after Suarez gone. For me, it looked like that Sanchez was potentially it. Then Remy was the backup of that, and then after that they started scrapping around. They weren't quite sure who it was. Maybe Origu was maybe the thought they could have got a main area, but they only were getting them as if they left them to stay out and long. But I think realistic targets. Again, Cavani, big powerhouse of a center four. If you want to look at a fellow who can run through players, he's very much in that sort, and he's a real gold scorer. I don't know if people disagree and say they're not realistic targets, but you know 40-45 million euro on the table to the likes of PSG, where Cavani's unhappy or to Napoli, and they would have to do as well. He isn't those champions that he footballed. Yeah, they're saying you could make the argument, you try to get in, you maybe try to get your man elbow miang from Borussia Dortmund as well. I'm a huge fan of him, very similar, but he can play wide in a front tree, he can play off, he can play as a 10. That's style of top bracket football. You put 30 million down in front of Dortmund, and I said he would have sell it at that price. Dave, do you any more close to home shit? Well, as this kid at Westboro, I actually, we've debated transfers a lot on the part, and I disagree with Phil on. I wouldn't have bought anyone in terms of not anyone, but I wouldn't have bought... So hindsight, right, says that you maybe don't sign land, but so embarrassarily as you're a plan B, and then I would have bought another wide player. I would have bought Draxler or something like that. I always felt that Rogers' preferred formation has, you know, put anything, so I started your front and his own, and two players play in as rotating forwards with him, and then a rotating midfield. I think the idea of two up front is not something he's comfortable with. I think that also inherent in the question, there's like, who would we sign, and then who is it ever realistic that the club were ever likely to look at? And, you know, we don't have a history of going and buying at the top end of the market, established senior players over 26. We don't buy that. Rogers doesn't buy that type of player. So then when you start throwing all that in, you know, I like the kid from Dortmund, I think when we talked on the part, he was a realistic one. I like Lewis Muriel from Udenezy. I think he was interested in that type of up and coming striker, but I would have gone, if I was putting 45 million down on the table, I would have gone for like Pogba or a midfielder. I would have just gone. If you can't get that world class forward, which I think we were struggling to get, go and get a world class player elsewhere. But look, I'm not revising what I said. I think our summer business was really good, and I stand by it. I stand by that the summer business was really good. I think, you know, some players are set quicker than others. Time is going to tell. Barletale is definitely the wire card, but I think we're going to need to see how he does with storage. I think there were glimpses against Spurs that that could work. So, I mean, I think the point in the question is we often say on the pod that, you know, we shouldn't assign this player or shouldn't assign that player. And I think he's saying, well, all right, genius is who would you sign? I am acknowledging that that's a really difficult question. There isn't an easy answer. There wasn't an obvious person. I think what's interesting about Sanchez is when the Sanchez hasn't played up front. You know, he's gone to Arsenal and he's played as a number 10. It was a wide forward. Everyone plays as a number 10. Yeah, I know that. I know. But I mean, I just think that's interesting that, you know, would he have played up front far as if storage had got injured? Could he have done that? Because he struggled when he tried to do it for the two games he did for Arsenal. So I would have gone for a wide forward rather than a striker. But I think there's more to come from Barletale. I wouldn't be too disheartened yet. Ray, given that our heads are completely wrecked by all these options and permutations and the team has settled. Carlos is always also wondering, should Steve Peters, the current version, go and visit himself from last year for some counselling. So that basically we can get our heads right. Because there does seem to be some sort of general kind of uneasiness, doesn't it? Yeah, I don't know whether it's, I think in general it's just them and from results. So I think we, we, you know, were probably as fans and the team themselves were probably just expecting us to kick on a little bit from last year or hop and I know the big man left. And, you know, we knew we were going to struggle. Maybe that ended the pitch, but we weren't expecting such a dip that we've seen. And it's, it's, it's affecting the players. I know about getting in the heads. Results will change that definitely. It's a confidence game. We string a few results together and I'm pretty sure we'll be okay. Steve Peters, I know Steve Peters basically. Fair enough, fair enough. But I think it's interesting that Steve Peters was talking about so much last year and there's no real talk about him this year. What is that though? As far as it's gone, bro. He's getting about 20 million to take a holiday. I have to get him a swap. You know what's happened, don't you? Enrique has fucking broken him. That's what it is. Enrique has broken Steve. And he's got some lost in the room or left them in the Safari when he was, when he was taking the monkey out for a spin in the morning. Definitely. You know that bit in the Sopranos where Melphy has to go on the lamb after that's what Peters has got at the weekend. He's in a motel going, "Don't give that my boss up." Whatever. He's got the blinds, Paul. He's got fucking... Enrique's just sending him naked selfies. Come back Steve. Come back. Miss you. It's all okay. Do you want to play FIFA? I think Peters' influence was always overstated last season and it's probably been understated this season. You know the players that he's had the biggest impact on are the likes of Gera, the likes of Stevie. So who still say that he's been a significant part of their progress. And then tragically Stevie had the most traumatic period of his career ever at the end of the season. But also... Claim for Roy Hudson in the World Cup. At the end of the season too, yeah. But also Rogers himself. And I think that's where the Peters thing gets on the plate is that actually he's there to support the manager. And I think to be fair to Rogers, you know he is able to deal on the whole with, you know, the pressure, the job. But if that's helping him do it, then look, I'm all for it. Just like changing the tag, Paul. After yesterday's OG Fest, Sam is wondering, Sam Agoyer is wondering what's the best or worst of what you want to look at on gold that you've ever seen. And there was that one they used to dig up on, not today. Remember anytime there was a gold score they'd go up for it. I think it was from the lower leagues. And I mean like a cross comes in, and there's smell of letters in the top corner. So she needs style as good as that? Yeah, it was close to the goal, but it was way more powerful. Because the ball kind of gets crossed in. I think there's a little bit of pinball, and it drops into your mat, and like the violence of the show. It just goes straight up into the top car. It's absolutely brilliant. I think they used to like, I think it was a matter today. You used to need to be known guys like, well, it doesn't be this, and then like dig it up again. It was brilliant. Yeah, we scored a bullet of a non-gull as well. I had a bullet of a non-gull one time. Yeah, buried it, ruined the top corner. Yeah, I've seen the record. He's got his own goal against Chelsea. I've never went to the killer player so much in my life. Honest to God, I mean, I know you're about to feel, usually feel sorry for players when they're scoring on gold, because they, you know, they usually don't mean it. Colos last year is my moment of that, like that. Colos is actually very encouraging. His reaction afterwards, but he's looking at the ground, just like, what happened? And he does this thing where he looks like God going, what are you doing to me? You said there was no need to be upset. Yeah, best I'll go. I've ever seen a score against me. Oh, go on, then. I swear to God, it's good. Mac, he'd been over with Colchester and he came back and we're playing into a breeze. Now, this was like the fucking hurricane breeze, right? I know it moved open there. It was probably on the edge of the 18-yard line. He was a bit toward the yard zone, and he went to play a crossfield diagonal, and I swear to God, it took off, right? Left back, going across, aiming to go across diagonal into their half, right? Hitted up, got caught in the breeze, came back around, right? And started heading back towards the goal. I just looked at him and I went, "Oh, no." And just watched the sail, and it went in the top corner. I just thought, "Well, now we're giving out." I just had a break in my heart, like, literally, even when my manager was just like, "Oh, for fuck's sake, I'm just calling his arm now at this stage." I was like, "I don't knock on a half of the day." Remember, Frank Sinclair played for Chelsea. Oh, he was just going, "Ah." Yeah, and it was way more variety, like... Rich Don does the same kind of stumble and fall into the goal. Every goal, this, well, that headers. He had one where... He was diving in the head, I remember. He had one for Leicester as well, where he's near the halfway line, and he turned around, I think Ian Walker was in line with this stage. And he tried to pass back to him, but he did this ridiculous, cruel, cross straight around. It was a beautiful finish, like... Maybe that was, and do you remember Lee Dickson in the end? Lee Dickson, when he chipped Seaman. Yeah, oh my God, what a goal that is. What about the one who was doing the rounds? It was a keeper, I think it was in Saudi Arabia or somewhere, where he basically, he's on the six yard box, and he throws the pole spectacularly aggressively into his own net. Because he gets the spin wrong, and he just ends up foggling directly into his own net. It's beautiful. Thankfully, I've never done that. I've never done that day, but it was funny about the Richard that on goal on Sundays. If you watch him after the goal, he turns to the defender next to him, and tugs his ears and say, "You know, give me a shout there." "You kicked the ball, you're on there, what are you going to say?" "Don't!" I still don't know. I know he was torn off and everything in terms of what was going on, right? But I still have no idea what he was trying to do. Even the leg motion, it's just a straight motion towards... Actually, best dog, the goalkeeper after a prouder against Dorland. Oh, that was a joke. That was outrageous. That was like so many took hold of him as a PlayStation 3 controller in the fucking ground, and he was like, "Wack!" His defender is just not grabbing him. Oh, the poor bastard. He got taken off, obviously. Straight off. On Sunday, Kargre's face was brilliant to you. As soon as he touched the microphone... Oh, he's a twerking in the stream, though. He's a swansy player who went to captain Kargre, so he can go fucking... [laughter] Oh, well, progression right. Pierce Sloan wonders if Liverpool are ice-creams, what player would be what ice-cream? He says he reckons to... "Cuteinio is a tangle twister." And he shouts here. Oh, you have me list? Do you want to hear me list? Oh, okay, they're in there already. This might be Euresh audiences, I only dope. I said, "I have a HB, and I was in the walls in the UK, or something." Okay, at number one. And if HB wants to catch the ice-creams, please burger. Oh, no, he's not doing this. You're not doing this. He's not doing this. This is embarrassing. Maxi Twist, Roger Egress. Oh, wonderful. Wait for that one. Jose looped the loop, Enrique. Do you want to take the loop? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my only one. Simon Concede Corner ends up in the netto. Corner netto? Oh, Jesus, Ray. And you actually prepared this? Oh, boy. This is dead stuff. That's right up by yourself. That's right there. Daytripper Homer. Oh. Daytripper Homer, right there. You needed to use ink for that. He ran out of crayons. We finished up with two. First one's from Paul. Paul says, "If you could have something named after you as a memorial, what would you choose, like, a school or a park or a building?" And field. Daytime stadiums. Yeah, absolutely. We're not. Yeah. I didn't have a shirt on this. The DT Arena. The DT Arena. Oh, that's... That was because Niamanda. Detox, that's it. Wigan. That's it, yeah. Name himself after. Yeah, yeah. The DWC. W, yeah. Because Dave Whelan doesn't love himself enough. No. No. Keep up with me. No, he broke his face. No, he broke his face. Really? Really? What's the story with that? Isn't it a cup final? No. I don't think I'm final. What the way? Last one's from Philip Murray. And Philip Wanders, who do you think would be the best lover of Liverpool? Quizical looks. Oh, God, it has to be amazing. Changers. I don't know. I think that's a bit an easy shout there, right? Oh, but it's a lazy shout. It's a lazy shout by you, right? It's a good looking contest. So, it's a lazy shout, right? Yeah. That's lover at Liverpool. Yeah. The Pandora. It's gonna have to be someone. Look, you've had the handle shout before. Yeah, but the handle shout with Quizical. Okay. Okay, if you're into longevity, then it's handle well. No, he's the George Elraba on top of it. I'd say I've gone for Derek Coy before he left. Similar reasons? No, just because he's only probably. He probably has to be a considerate lover, you know? Oh, he's very polite shout. I'm very polite shout, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm scared. No, I'm scared to be scared to be scared to be scared. I don't know, wouldn't be answering like I expected to talk. Be all gentle and hoaggy and lovely and like. Do what you're talking about this is like, you've considered scared land you in the situation you have, haven't you? Well, we finished with some admin. Irish listeners who like their football should come and play it here at Astral Park. You can book your pitch time and your games at astralpark.ie on our website, that's LFCdaytrippers.com. We have some fantastic articles as per usual. Really, we go writers on there. Get on, have a look. Our day trip on November the 1st, we'll be joining in with a lot of Liverpool fans from all over the country who are heading to Watford for an overlighter in the Dule Hotel. We're going to be there and we'll be doing a bit of recording. We're looking forward to that. So if you want to get involved, get in touch with YNWA Irish Reds, we'd like to thank those same lads for hosting us in the stormbone Sunday. Fantastic occasion. And we're looking forward to return visit. More details on that soon. Your day trippers tonight were Dave Thomas, Ray Brady, Paul Brennan, Phil Casey, and myself, Trev Downey. That should be there. Nice. Yeah, so I'm clear to you. Is he like, fair? Like, was he just, is he fair? Yeah, he was dropped. But hopefully that's because they haven't won. I am a dread. Right, right, guys? This is a Joss' radio to go off. How did Emory can do? Let's move along with that one. All right. So let's say you're in Tioga or Pilates. Or maybe you dabble in gymnastics like me. Either way, you know being flexible is key to doing what you love. That's why Smoothie King created this stretch and flex smoothie for people like us. 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Mad stuff going on so it must be the post QPR podcast. We discuss the goings on at Loftus Road from the awfulness of the defence to the bright sparks in the team. We look ahead to the wondrous occasion which is the champions league match v Real Madrid and then the following come down game v Hull. Big thanks to the lads at YNWA Irish Reds for hosting us in the Stoneboat on Sunday gone. Looking forward to joining them on their Daytrip on November 1st. check them out if you are a Dublin based red www.ynwairishredssc.com and want to meet up with other reds on match day.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices