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[MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] It's the day trippers. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Well, it's a year since we brought you the first ever day trippers podcast. On that night, we talked on crackly mugs about the problematic nature of the Lucas Jared Midfield axis. And we threatened a better shaky center halves. Tonight, one year on, we'll talk about the problematic nature of the Lucas Jared Midfield axis. And we'll threaten a better shaky center halves, but fear not. Liverpool may be currently a bit shy, but the good news is that almost every other side is trying to be just as brutal. So, on this festive occasion, we'll try to accentuate the positive or at least laugh our way toward the negative. So joining me tonight is the upbeat, positive monkey, demo flood, converted glum-monger Dave Thomas, fresh, matoey, quarantined Paul Brennan, and the pipe-smoking ball of rage that is Phil Casey. [LAUGHTER] Sure, our garden and all that anyway. OK, where else can we begin, I guess, but with the hellishness that was West Ham 3, Liverpool 1? Pretty much as rage-inducing a performance as we've had to endure since the dark days of the hodge, defensive incompetence with structural shambles, with a lack of urgency and penetration, and all set and trained by a bit of a baffling and flawed selection by Rogers. Or to summarize, it was a flaming bag of poo. So let's start with the one disgusting point that we had 12 months ago and the podcast as we started off, and that's the midfield axis of Lucas and Jared. Does it function? Does it not function? They more flawed, I know you have strong thoughts on this. No, it doesn't function. No, we move on now. [LAUGHTER] I think he has a valid point. We've talked about this to death. Everyone has talked about this to death, right? When Lucas has selected, even Dave Thomas, who's one of the most positive Liverpool fans, I know. Not anymore. No, we're not. No, but genuine. We've ruined it. Beat me down. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] No, but even he was concerned about Lucas and Jared, midfield again, coming up against, even a West Ham team, that doesn't have a particularly good midfield. The big question is, had we signed Alex song and loan? Would we be in a better unit on Saturday than by not signing Alex song and loan? Yes. That's a genuine question. He did such a good job for West Ham's midfield in terms of stopping us play, right? And then giving them a solid base and not giving us any space to operate in behind, when we were playing the Diamond for, was it starting to play in there, right? We're Iranian and Balotelli in front of him. But we didn't have that at the other end. Stuart Downey. Stuart Downey was allowed look like a footballer. [LAUGHTER] Right? A very pacey footballer. Above all else. That's unforgivable. The first thing you do is down it statistically. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] No. But the thing about it is, all you have to do to Downey is do a hard tackle on him after ten seconds. Do a hard tackle on him. Do a hard tackle on him. Do a hard tackle on him. Flanagan did it against him last year for West Ham. And the last time he was saying he was buying a hot dog after 20 minutes in the hot dog stand, seriously, we let him look like a good footballer. And that to me is to forget he was playing. That's a fucking disgrace. Oh, yeah, we'll stand near him and he just disappears at the game. I know. And yeah, if we couldn't manage that. Couldn't have not moved away from the Gerard Lucas team. What we find the problem with either of the two that I'm playing in there is the lack of serious mobility. Yeah. And any team that really we really struggled against, if you look, a lot of race was spot on. You went with the two big mob of strong lads and novels that fairly puts a shift in as well. Gerard's not able to put a shift in like that anymore. We know that. We know it's capability there and there's limitations there. Lucas could never fucking deal with him before this place. Yeah. And he's not going to put a shift in. So you've got Henderson in there to do the walk of treatment. All they deal with is the press that only fell Jared. And any team that's watching us play in that way should just take note of that. Yeah. If, if, tell them we're in, or even one, just press the fuck else. You know, and that's how a lot of teams are getting joy against us in the middle of the record. What do you feel? Yeah. But we're talking about this is the point that I started off saying. This is what we spoke about on the part in the very first part. And we spoke about it repeatedly afterwards. And as Phil says, everyone is jaded with it. And yet we have a manager who makes a selection, which is quite baffling. Well, it is and it is a baffling because to be fair, look, nobody's defined in Lucas and Jared. Jared is a good enough player that you can build a midfield around him and carry him. He's a good enough player if you want to do that. Lucas isn't, should never be in the team, right? But to be fair to Rogers. If he's told us that he ain't now a Coutinho's injured, we can argue about whether that's how serious that injury is. But if Coutinho's injured, Alan's injured and Jan is injured. Who's in your midfield if you're not picking that team? I understand what you're talking about. So I think if you ask Rogers to pick his, his best midfield, his second best midfield, his third best midfield, his fourth best midfield, I don't think Lucas gets in any of them. The reality is our midfield on Saturday is our fifth best midfield or sixth best midfield. You know, so I think that I have some sympathy. I'm not, I'm not saying that we should be in this position. You don't think there was anything that could be done differently to avoid that situation that we know has been exposed ruthlessly on the past? I think that with the players we are missing, I think that he had a slight hand side. I mean, I think we could go straight to back, right? And play Henderson next to Gerard, push the two midfielders forward, which is what he did. Eventually after, you know, 45 minutes, what he went through in the back early, we took Lucas off. But the problem with playing three at the back is you need your front players to be more violent. This is something we'll come on to and we didn't have that either. So, you know, I think the midfields are terrible. I just don't think, I just don't think he had a lot of choices. If you want to play the diamond midfield, right, that we are wanting to play. Because it allows our two front men to have, you know, that allows us to play two front men and allows our fallbacks to bomb on. But if you're going to play the diamond midfield and you don't have legs in the middle to cover the lack of mobility that Gerard has, right? And you're putting in somebody who's even less mobile in Lucas, then what's going to happen is, and we've said it many times, Lucas is going to drop back into the same space that Gerard is in. And both of them start doing the same job, but they're not quite sure where they should be on the actual pitch. And the same thing happened. It just allowed West Ham to run through us effectively because there was such a gap between the two and them. And the rest of the midfield, because they were playing what they should be playing in terms that we couldn't get the ball. We could see the fourth tournament, we could not get the ball. We couldn't get three, four, five passes together without being closed down and gotten the ball off us. Now, there's a piece on this that the teams will put somebody on Gerard because they know he's going to sit at the bottom of that diamond. Now, if you're going to do that, come on back to the idea that, and he did go three at the back in the end. But we sort of then hamstrung ourselves a bit because we've had to put Raheem Sterling in as a right wing back. And he's going to be the penetrating force if you play three at the back and you have four in midfield and you have one behind two at the front. We took our main attacking Trent over a team with one of them. It's the wrong side. Yeah, it's the wrong side. Lucas got to go off there. Lucas goes off to go three at the back. You keep making you on the right-hand side, keep serving in the middle of the park. I completely agree. It's the wrong side. Yeah, so I come back to what I said at the start. What is this in Brendan that makes him think that he can keep throwing at the wall and eventually it'll stick? What the hell inspires that? I mean, Paul, what was your take on it? I mean, Stephen Jared, they're struggling to play three games in a week. And you have another fellow who, like, with the best one in the world, he's actually less effective than he was last year when we were having this debate. He's not though. I think he is. Do you know why? He's never had a good fourth half of the season since Rodgers has taken over. And he had a great second half of the season last year. He had a great second half of the season in Rodgers' fourth year. And he was always pouring the fourth half of the season. I tell you why. I'm not talking about Jared. You're talking about Lucas, right? Yeah, that's right. Well, he's shit all the time. It doesn't matter what he does. That's yeah. Anyway, Paul. I agree with what Dave said. I think there was. There's a serious lack of options. Maybe he could have tried to shoehorn LaLana. Even then, if people saw that, people still would have been moaning, I'd say, because LaLana, he did really well when he came on. But so far, he's looked really rusty. Yeah. So I think as well, Rodgers' hands were fairly tired. Yeah. And why he could do. I mean, obviously, it really backfired. We had to change shape after something like 20 minutes or maybe even earlier. Yeah, there wasn't a lot you could do. We have a good few numbers in midfield, but a lot of them, like Lucas, Jared, even if Coutinho or Sterling, they've limited roles that they can do. It's really Alan and Henderson, they do a lot of their work and maybe Chan, if he does bed in properly. A lot of the rest of them, they rely on the likes of Alan and Henderson. So with Alan, it does limit their options really. You can throw Lucas in, but it's not going to be nearly the same. Yeah. So whatever they're doing to that, Paul, where do you stand on? It doesn't come back to that simple thing that you've just mentioned there about Jared having to play because of the lack of options. It seems a little bit excessive, doesn't it? Yeah. Well, I'd agree with what Phil was saying when he thought you were talking about Jared. He has been fairly awful, I think, for the first week. He saves himself with his set pieces now. But even that's been fairly poor, he's delivering all this season, but it's the same thing every year that he starts on the run. He just looks really rusty. There's no tempo to his pass and there's no defensive awareness. And it takes until the second half of the season before we start picking that up. So I don't really know what we saw in pre-season that he looked really rusty coming back. And this is basically what I expected him to play. In terms of the match, I think there wasn't much choice of them to try and throw Lucas in beside him and hope for the best. I think the mistake isn't necessarily playing Jared against West Ham. I think it's potentially playing him against Lulu Gretz. That's the one I'm thinking, "OK, don't all go mad, but if you're going to play a game with Lucas, you play that game and you play him at the base of the diamond where he can do as little damage as possible with Coutinho in the same side." That's the game that you rest Jared. But this is where I do think Jared's force of personality is difficult because there's no way Jared's not leading the team out on the first side of the Champions League. So now you've got this situation where we've got no one to even sub him on 60 minutes or 50 minutes or whatever. There's no one to sub him on Saturday because the two boys that we would have or the three boys that we'd have to sub him are all gone. It's like this perpetual snowball effect where it's not West Ham. West Ham's not the issue. It's that we've had injuries and mismanagement using inverted commas up until that game that we're in a position where Steve and Jared was 34 years old, has to play 390 minute games in a week. I mean, that's the problem. Yeah, well look, one area where we can't say there's been necessarily a problem in terms of availability of personnel as the center half department. But hopefully this partnership in a vertical mode of Lover and Skirtle, which started the game, what would you say? Would you say the introduction of soccer was early as you had to come in? Was that kind of a tacit admission that there were massive issues with it? I don't think so. I think if we do okay in midfield, I don't think it makes that change. Okay. I think that change was made truly because we were so pissed poor in midfield. We needed to get extra bodies in around there as we spoke earlier. That substitution should have been Lucas fucking straight away. He should have been hauled out there. Yeah. You know, but what happened happened? But, Skirtle and Lovren, they're not fucking walking. Look at the games, we can say the four goals and two or three games. We can say the eight now, eight with games, the start, the start, the start, the start. Yeah. And you look at Skirtle and Lovren. Okay, they went amazing. But we only can say the one against Villa. Now, we actually probably Villa are kept in control of the ball over most of the game after that. They were comfortable. You know, so that's one goal. Where we're conceding tales and trays with the other system. Yeah. So, I couldn't understand. Like, straight away, when I hear Skirtle's going back into the game, I say, "Why?" And I say on Twitter, like, "Sacko gets an absolute dog's abuse, but he doesn't deal much wrong in games. Like, he looks a bit for probably a couple of times, but he's fantastic at defending. And defending for some farmers, that's his job. You know, and I wish you a sack of it. And I can't understand this absolute blowing hatred towards him. You know, people probably say, "My blowing hatred towards Lucas." Like, it's something to say. I can't see any problem with sack of it. I struggle with the sack of things. Everyone spends their time saying, "Sacko is a little way with loads of things because everyone loves them." I only see who people criticize and know. I see people constantly criticizing him for that very reason that everyone lets sack away. Hang on a second. Everyone is saying that. I mean, nobody criticizes him and lets him away with it. But every time you read something, it's like, "He looks again." If you look at the press the way they talk about it, I was saying that there's a mistake in him. If you notice, that's all you say. He doesn't mistake in him or he looks on the game. "Oh, hang on. He might look gangly. He might look awkward." "Well, he fucking does nothing wrong with it. He does his job and he does it well." He's also our most composed centre-back. The one thing I've noticed about him on the ball compared to all the rest is he never panics in possession. I know people say, "That may lead to the odd mistake, you know, where he's overcomposing. And overcomfortable on the actual ball." But, you know, from direct mistakes he's made, I'm struggling to think of the goal. Somebody will say about the corner that was giving away and I'll stand over and say, "That was a mini-lay shout that went horribly wrong." He's brought on and we became defensively solid against set pieces, which we hadn't been up until then. The goal itself, you know, that's all that's on Skirtle. I know people are giving up about Henderson alone, the free head of the back post. Henderson, Skirtle shows, tells Henderson to go and pick tokens up when they're setting up. And he's looking directly at Reid. In that position, it's said that half should not be free. Don't give a shot, pick a man, you stay with him. In fact, the fact that tokens go to the back post. Skirtle should be saying, "I'm going to go man to man on him." And when that hit it, we're going to compete here because he's just said that half. He's said that half's hardly going to be early. So I'm going to match him with man on my man. He's standing there American, fucking nobody. You only hand the man off. If you've got two. He's telling them there because he's picking up Reid. Now, if he's picking up Reid, right, he has no excuse to start ball watching as soon as the ball is struck. And that's exactly what happens because Reid's run isn't checked at any stage. If Skirtle then goes to Reid after the ball is delivered, Reid doesn't get the free header to put it back into the net. The other thing is, and I'll say it, right, I praise them up from a height after his performance against Southampton, right? The regression in Minuli since that's Southampton match. Actually, the regression in Minuli since the mistake against Manchester City where Aguero scored that goal where he was caught out of position, the weight in the back pass or something from Lovren that night, right? Has been phenomenal. And that goal as well, he's culpable there. He should be coming out and cleaning the house under forced headers. Shouldn't even be a position the time comes gets the header back. I think we should do Minuli again because I think there's laws to say on him. Well, if we are going to come back to Minuli, why don't you, as a man who I've heard articulate a contrary opinion on SACO, not necessarily an overtly negative one, but I've heard you say things that maybe Aaron does couple of measures. How did you feel he did, Dave? Well, first of all, let me go back to why he brings Skirtlin, which I don't agree with because I said on last week's pod, right, that you pick it back forward, you stick with it for 10 games and all this chocolate changes to my fucking head. I don't care what his back for is, just fucking land on it and stick with it for 10 games. Why he makes the change? For my honest opinion, I think that Lovren's his guy and he wants to play Lovren in his best position. And fuck what happens around that. He's gone. That's my guy. He's the guy who's going to sort my defense out. So I'm going to play him in his strongest position, which is left hand side, therefore I have to play Skirtlin. I don't agree with it. It wouldn't be what I would have done, but that's why he makes the change. In terms of SACO, the thing I'd say about SACO is, I don't think he's as bad as the press make him out at all, right? I think he's solid player, but he's not pulling up enough trees to make it a travesty that he's not going to pick. Do you know what I mean? I mean, people talk about, if you go and watch him play for France, and I'm just generalizing here, if you go and watch the games he's played for France, and everyone has based this opinion on him as this hugely dominant center half wins everything. It was brilliant. It didn't work up. I can't find a 15-minute period in his Liverpool career where he looks at that. I think he does things nice, I think he's better than people make him out to be. And if Leveren was not there, then I completely understand why there's a camera for him to buy him. But I think Roger said, SACO doesn't make up enough for what I lose from Leveren by playing him on the right hand side, therefore I'd rather have Leveren. I'm not saying it's the right decision, but I think that's the logic he's going in, and I just don't think SACO's done enough to guarantee it. Oh, you can't understand that logic, because if I think back to SACO, I can't actually think back to where he's actually being directly involved in us considering the goal from now. I might be right, I might be on our tail. I can pick 3FR since Leveren saw him. Every time I think of this, every time I think of this, I keep thinking back to the back end of the last season when the defences make mistakes, and the goals came down scared outside. And that's what it boils down to. And every time I think about Crystal Palace, and Johnson's horribly a fault, but Skirtle is also a fault in those goals as well. I think this season, and Skirtle is not getting across to cover Leveren in any of the games, and the goals are coming from there. I think to the fourth goal against West Ham, he's caught as we've just gone through there. But again, look at the goal at Skirtle against us. How many times was a ball played into the back post last year, into the right hand side where Johnson and Skirtle are defending that area of the goal, and the goal comes from that point? You know, it's the same mistake repeated over and over again, and people say, "Is it the system or whatever?" Well, if you put the same people in those positions, and you keep making the same mistakes, or the same things start getting happening against it, it's both the system, and the personnel you're employing in that system. But it's obviously something, right? I mean, again, I don't see it, right? And you know what, Skirtle, you know, I wish the stack was hard for Leveren. But there's obviously something, either in the way he wants to center halves as a unit to play, and there's something there that he thinks that Skirtle does better than other center halves, right? I don't know what that is. When an individual battles, maybe, or whatever. Or there's something about the way the back five or six play, and he thinks that if all that worked the way it was meant to work, Skirtle is the right player to have in it. The problem we've got at the moment, and I said it on a part last week, is, "Forget Skirtle for a minute, but the whole back line has moved up five yards." The goalkeepers rooted to his line, and we've got a dysfunctional midfield. So you're going to have fucking bacon, bacon, bower, and tea ag or silver play and set it to half rest right now, and they're going to look terrible. Because we just, as a functioning defensive unit, we have a terrible goalkeeper, terrible goalkeeper, and we have a midfield that's not functioning. So, kind of the center halves is almost like a second point for me. As a unit, we're all over the shop. Absolutely all over the shop. Oh, we can't really, we can't really keep ignoring the fact that the mini-lays coming up again and again here. Phil, do you want to get us started on this? I know you've just pretty much articulated that you feel he's regressed quite a lot, quite dramatically. Is this something that's a confident issue? Is it fixable? He reminds me so much now in terms of confidence in what he's doing, the lack of belief in what he's actually doing. Remind me so much of when Dudek let the ball go through his legs, and Thorlan score that goal, and his head went. And he looks like to me, it seems very like that he knows the potentially valid edges coming in. He knows he needed to change his game to retain the number one jersey. He tried to change his game, and at the first time he may have been cut out of position as he tried to change his game, he's gone back to what he was beforehand, which is a shay-given style goalkeeper, which is, you know, being reactive, which is staying to his line and relying on a shutstopper from getting away. But even there I'm looking at it, and the shutstopper, you know, was incredible, is not happening now at this stage. There are a few that got passed and that you'd like to think he could have stopped. And it's like, all I'm thinking now is the guy, if his confidence is gone, we're in trouble, because if there isn't a Valdez deal on the cards, then we're going to need to find the confidence and bring it back into him to get us true either until January or until the end of the season, whatever it is. And I feel sorry for him because he did, you know, as I said previously, he looked to come on leaps and bounce towards the back end of the last season. He was making big saves for us, you know, he even starts off this season, making a big save for us, and your tinctness of Jesus. Yeah, you know, he stepped up again. He didn't step up again. I got back to that for I was so disappointed, especially considering what had happened at West Ham last year, where he gotten battered by Andy Carroll, and then showed a lot of balls and guts to come for every single cross after that one, right? And when I watched him against Villa the previous week, he was coming two yards and dropping back onto his line. The defenders didn't know whether he was coming, I'm not coming for it. And you can see that they're dropping, if you notice, they're dropping two or three yards deeper on three kicks now, where they were prepared to hold the line, they're now starting to drop in because they know he's not going to come for us. And the force goal is an example of where, you know, Elores or the guy or someone like that will just come, even Chesney, you know, court will obviously will come and just clear the lines. But Phil, they're not even marketing. They're not even putting anyone out. No, he's not getting blocked off. This is what's driving me crazy about him at the moment. The ball comes in, right? And you can argue whether that ball is the goalkeeper's or whether it's the center half, right? But if the goalkeeper's not being marked, which he's not, he's not being blocked off in terms of run, the goalkeeper's at least got to take a player out of the game. So if he comes for the ball, if he comes to try and take it, he takes a West Ham player out into the game. He may be Mrs. or whatever. But I'm just, I just think it doesn't matter who the center half is. If you've got a goalkeeper behind you that is never, ever going to come for a ball, then I just, you know, I just don't see the point. I just think you can be the best defender in the world. But you've got players in front of you are trying to sort out. The goalkeeper naturally is the tallest player because he can put his hands above his head. Aren't you surely hoping that he's going to use that advantage to make your life easier? I'm just, I'm, I'm more mad at Minnie Lee not coming for that ball than anything that happens after that game. Anything that happens after that minute, I'm more mad about Minnie Lee not coming for that ball. Going back to an even deluded grit game and I said to you while the game was going on, just two instances there, one is the goal. He comes and but doesn't really come for it. And your man just runs around and slots it into the entity and for the equalizer. And then previously in the fourth half, he'd call for the ball, same as he did against Villa. This time he came. And then when you saw Sacco still coming towards him, he pulls down, he needs to take the ball. And if he takes Sacco out of it, he takes Sacco out of it, he pulled himself out of it. And it ended up that Sacco had to give away a corner because, you know, Minnie Lee had actually gone, the ball had gone past him. You know, if that's in another pair of the goal, that's heading towards the goal line. And that to me is just a lack of confidence in what he's doing. And if he doesn't have confidence in what he's doing, I can bloody well guarantee you the centre backs will not have confidence in when he's coming or if he's calling for the ball. I'm going to start ignoring the shelters he's coming for things. Paul, that's where your point is. I know you've done an odd stint between the post yourself. He needs to really have that determination and just that focus to just going, as Phil says, clean house, take whoever is in the way out of it. And he doesn't seem to have that presence at the moment. Yeah, my problem is the same as Minnie Lee when I'm going to call. Yeah, but it is surely, you could see Jarrod Bolekum as well during the little Garretz game. Yeah. And I agree with what Dave said, like, you know, look, you feel sorry for the centre backs because they've been indecisive, keep in front of them or behind them. And then the midfield, sometimes non-existent in front of them. Like, yeah, Sacco, like, we talked about Sacco, it was kind of two mistakes where Phil said he was going back towards the goal against Villa. And Phil reckons Minnie Lee gave him a shell because Sacco, he's normally fairly decisive with what he wants to do. And he kind of hesitates. And then against West Ham, what's going on? The ball's coming onto his head, he does a big kind of 50p header. And then there's just this ocean of space in midfield. And so to have nothing in front of you and nothing behind you, it is kind of... It's offsetting for your own game. Like, if you're doing that, like, about twice before that Sacco had made the exact same header, and both times Jarrod was in that position. And eventually, like, if you were a defender and you know your midfielders are taking up certain positions on the pitch, like, you're putting the ball back in because we keep possession of all, you start going and we're looking for a draw. Now, there is a bit that says, "Well, okay, you have to be aware." And at the same time, if you're doing this repeatedly and the players are in those positions all the time, it becomes a bit of a memory job. So, you know, you're putting it back down there, we're retaining possession, we're going on. Pea heads are there to play. Straightaway West Ham have the ball and just five minutes to go, they can run it into corners and kill the actual game. What's disappointing again is the lack of discipline that even at that point, we, there's still a point for us there to come back into. That our players have gone AWOL from the positions that they should be in on the actual pitch. Yeah, it's not like it was just one West Ham player who intercepted. It could have been any number of people. It was a big, empty chasm where there was no Liverpool players. And no Liverpool players, not even for a second or ten seconds. Like, down against the ball, there's nobody. Nobody's even going to them. He waits and waits and waits. And, you know, a male frittano makes the run off to our shoulder and he's not tracked. It's scared a lot. It's scared a lot from then makes the, you know, could do better with the actual track and down to a male frittano. The whole thing, it's a cataclysmic disaster. Hey, ladies, I mean, I have something, I don't want to keep going on about me anyway. I mean, the third goal I'm less angry about, at the end of the day, we were on the part last week and we were talking about how we were wondering down against Villa and by the telly's not in the box. So, you know what, you get caught out when you're trying to chase a game. I'm less angry about that goal. But, you know, the other thing, you know, to go back to the Lucas and Jared thing and, you know, when I saw that team sheet, the first thing I thought is we're never going to score a goal, right? That was my thing. I'm like, fuck, how are we going to score? So, I was thinking, this is going to nail, nail, written, all over it. Because, at the very least you're thinking, if you're playing Lucas and Jared in the midfield, we're all going to be fucking basically defending on a six-yard box and we shouldn't get caught down the flanks and we shouldn't, and we just, they just got pulled apart. For the second goal, Lucas loses the tackle in the middle of the park. And, seriously, go and watch it again. Watch our slowie jogs back, right? The ball is in the net, but at the time he's reached the AD in our box. And I'm just looking at it going, this is meant to be the legs, you know, midfield. And I bet he's smiling. He's smiling. He's like he's in the park and he's like, what's going on over here? He's flat open. I mean, Jared, you can excuse because he hasn't got the legs, but at least he's busting and I got to try and do it. And it's frustrating to watch it. I know, I know like it's either a great finish or a crass that's gone wrong, right? Yeah. And I know in that instance, sometimes, you know, there's nothing you can do about it, but I do know that Minneapolis is going to be disappointed. He didn't even make a movement towards that ball. He's not in there. I know, I know, I know, like, when I played a bit of Astro over somewhere, I had taken such a big break from playing and then going back and not being able to read just me feet quickly enough. Now, I can do that because I'm 27 at this stage, right? So, you know, and you're not training. The guy who's in there training, at least, he wants me making some movement back towards the ball. Because I think that this time last season, he adjusts his feet, he gets back and he pulls off, or wonder saves, and pulls it out the back. But I think his feet are all wrong all game. He makes two saves, right, from shots from the left-hand side of the box for west-hand, right-hand side of our box, right? And both saves are going white. And both times he makes a save. But it's just angles are all wrong. He hasn't lined it up right. It's interesting, he said, I watched the game back and I was watching sort of, you know, seeing those types of saves that he's making. And one of the things that went on Rainer before he left us, right, was his footwork started to go off, right? Yeah. And, you know, people have asked the question about the coaching that's going on, and at some stage, there has to be, somebody needs to look at that and say, right, do we have the best coach in there to do the job? Yeah. You know, we've had the same coach trail now, there, Hodgson, Douglas, and now Rodgers. And, you know, sometimes things do have to be refreshed. It needs to be, no idea is in. And you go out, if you want to be the top club in the country, you try to get the top bodies, you know, we have wonderful coaches in Ingle-Tarpon, there, that's running the academy, you know, people are always praising the staff that they bring in the coaching level. And you just wonder, could we get a better coach? Because if footwork is going off, that's a coaching thing as opposed to a talent thing. Well, he's the only coach that isn't on a Rodgers team. He's the only coach that he can inherit it. But, I mean, again, it was the series for me. I just thought they looked awkward, and I thought, geez, the top class goalkeeper pauses hands away there, and let's go off for a go-kick, you know? Yeah. I'm fully, if the keeper and the defence, and the defence of midfield are all having a bit of a mare, it's hard, isn't it, to point fingers at Jordan Henderson and Rahim Sterling, who were, for them, so par? I just, I know, he can get in. Of all the players on the pitch, I thought Sterling was the only player we really had. Even right wing back, he put in a stint, he scores the goal. Look, if you think about it, he's already moved to right wing back when he scores the goal. He's pushed on, he's in the box, and he was asked to do a job that's alien to him. Of all the players, he worked his bollocks off, and I'd say even for Beringian, he got an awful slight. He did work his bollocks off on his on the pitch. Yeah. No, no, I'm not. Look, there's a difference between quality and the whole lot, but he put a shift in, and that's all he can ask of players. At wars, that's all he can ask of a player. And that's what's annoying us here. We'll just talk about Lucas Joggin back for the second goal. At least Beringian was breaking his bollocks together around the pitch. If his quality isn't there, it's quality isn't there, but he's breaking his bollocks. And even Ballotelli put in a shift. You look at the amount of times he's come back into his own half and done it. Look, we could rant down here about how bad all the stuff was. There were some positives coming out of that game. Ballotelli's work rate was one thing that I noticed. That's come on in every single game. It's much bigger than the previous one. We will get there. You're all over the shop with it. With it. With your junior. Listen, I've been cutting across slowly for the second time. For the second time you've cut across slowly. I wonder what happened. Come on. Was it this week you said, I don't think I'm going to say too much. And by the way, have you noticed he's been 37 for at least 18 months. Fucking remarkable. Fucking remarkable. I got the same dose of your disease. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What I was saying was, I was slating Henderson. If you listen to the actual question, what I was asking was, it's not really surprising that the two lads did pull in a shift. Clearly. But I would have said that they were less effective than usual, but you can't re-blame them flat. All you can expect is effort because everything around them is fucked. I don't have a theory on that. The two boys have been walking with Roy Hodges for 10 months. I need to get in a hodge. Yeah. I'm already back from a hodge. Yeah. This one we're playing. We're not playing well, particularly with Oklahoma City. Everything's all over the shop. And we're expecting a lot of the audience. There's still only young lads at the end of it. They're only back off of World Cup. And not many players come back off of World Cup that can hit in the ground, and again, and give us another. That's why, oh, he felt, and I said that the last one was on the part, oh, he felt we needed another midfielder. We definitely needed one more in there. Just to take the board off Henderson, he's expected to do so much work. It's ridiculous. And there's no man I had to prove that. And he's being asked by three guys in a week. He hasn't had a rest in the summer. So there's no issue with Jordan Henderson. No issue with him, Sterling. There's a lot worse, and there's a lot more problems than that. Absolutely. I think what everyone's getting a little bit annoyed about, a little bit pissed out, was we're expecting him, which often we're expecting them to be our world leaders, to step up and kind of take the game with the trophy. But they are only young lads, you know? And as I said, they're off the back of a series, and they're going to be on a hoi with us where we finished, straight into a World Cup, they're straight back into football, and they've had no break really, and that is going to take effects somewhere along the line. At the end of the day, you're away at West Avenue, two and a half to seven minutes, right? What you want there is you senior players to come in and lead the team out to it. And age-wise and experienced-wise, our senior players are mini-lay, Skirtle, Jared and Lucas. And to a man, they were all appalling. So you can't turn around. I mean, I had some issues with what Sterling did at the beginning. I had some issues with what Henderson did at the beginning. But you cannot turn around when you, you know, and say, "These are the boys that have to pull us out to it." At the end of the day, the senior pros at the team, all in the team need to take a good look at themselves and say, "Where the fuck were they on Saturday?" Because they just never turned up. They never turned up mentally. I mean, Jared's got enough in his plate trying to fucking sort his feet out. Someone else then has got to go right. I'm going to get a grip at this game. And nobody did it. You know, at the end of the day, you can't expect the invoice to do it. Well, what about the two men at the sharp end and Paul Berni and Ballatelli? It was a partnership that some people have sold. It could be effective. Did you see any indications of any kind of a partnership there? I mean, Berni, certainly you caught an accusing of not being mobile. He made plenty of runs. Ballatelli had a little glimpse of class, a beautiful takedown and all the rest of it. What did you make of them as a duo? Not much, really. I think Ballatelli's had a really tough time in the past, which is like he's had the shit kicked out of him. All those games that he's been in. And you saw the keeper having a gold on as well, while he was on the floor. I think he's done the best for what he could. The last two goals from Open Play were him taking kind of, you know, balls in a chest height in the box. He took down the scored one and he knocked one against Ludivore. It's knocked one back to Sterling. So I don't think you can say that much about like Berni. He does try, but I think he's really limited. I don't think he's got any kind of real technical attributes like that help us really. I think his decision-making's poor. He doesn't protect the ball at all. He's almost like, remember, Sisoko used to kind of give the ball the opposition so he could kind of tackle it back off. That's kind of what Berni did. He kind of controlled it, gave it to the centre-back, and then started harrying the centre-back for the ball back. I don't rate him as kind of a starter for us at all. So I don't think there was much competition or much of a partnership, but again, like you'd say with Henderson and Sterling, just our build-up is just awful. We don't really give them any chance. It's all real forced kind of balls that we give them. Like I said, we're about to tell you, he's basically magic to tell us who goes up. Yeah, Dave, that's a fair point. I mean, like in the absence of storage, those two aren't really what we're hoping for. Well, look, I mean, I think storage is the big miss. I think that, you know, storage transforms that side. Even if it's just storage instead of Borini and that team, I think it stretches the play, storage drops into, I mean, Ballotelli drops in to collect them all into midfield, but nobody runs beyond it. Whereas with storage when he drops, you know, he's able to control the ball turn, and he's got the pace to get away with the defender, and Ballotelli doesn't have that. No, to be fair, I thought Ballotelli actually did great. And what I've really admired about him is that everyone's kicked the shit out of him, and he hasn't reacted once for all the talk of his mentality and all that kind of stuff. And actually, when storage comes back, I'd be tempted to give him a game out, drop him out for the derby. Ballotelli, I wouldn't play him. I'd play a slightly different formation against Everton. I probably wouldn't play Ballotelli. I'd give him a bit of a rest. But I think he's been really good and kind of effective, but I think we'll see better from him when he's playing, with better playing around him, you know? Right. Jeez, that was grim. OK, we'll just wrap him up. We'll wrap him up. We'll just say we were shy, if I'm leaving with that. OK, we were shy. OK, review over. OK, we're absolutely delighted to be joined online by Jason Mcathere. Jason, we were really, really pleased to have you on the show to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the day trippers. Can I start off by asking you something about the '96, '97 season? Is there any outstanding memory from that season for you? Well, I think I'm really posh with your voice. I'm like... When you were talking to me, you were like a proper dope before. You've got me there for you. And then all of a sudden, you've got dead posh. I wouldn't mind. He's a fucking coach, isn't he? I'm not even from Dublin. I'm not even from Dublin. Actually, that wasn't me. That was fairly worth talking to. But anyway, any outstanding memory from the season? Obviously, the Newcastle game will stick out. Yeah. That's probably one of the highlights of the season when it comes to performances and on one-off fixtures. It was probably overall, I think, when we look back on the season, I think we'd look back. We don't look back too fondly because we missed out on winning the title. Yeah. We were so close. Was that the season we got to the FA Cup final at the end as well? No, that was the one beforehand. The following year. That's the one before, and isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We'd come off the back of that really good season. I've known you where we were so close. Obviously, I think Roy has made it a couple of signs. I think Patrick Berger had come in at me. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, we fancied off. Yeah. I mean, we were going totally tall. We made the United for the time. I was the Liverpool. And obviously, missing out on the Cup final is really a bit of taste. What do you make of the current set up then, Jason? A lot of people have made some comparisons there with the team as it is now, and the team that you guys played in with the, well, maybe last season's team, and the team that you guys played. And in terms of the attractiveness of the football, and you've got the really effective goalscore up top, and you've got the old head in midfield. And just an exciting kind of buzz around it. Do you see any parallels there yourself? Yeah, I've said a few times last season, I can see my team in the way that Liverpool play now, the way that Brendan's got them playing, the philosophy that Brendan's applying. It probably wasn't spoke about as much the word philosophy and sort of tactics and all that. It wasn't really around when I was playing. It was, you know, it's analyzed, it's now, isn't it? Statistics and what have you done. And everyone's talking about the philosophy and the group and all this kind of stuff, and now people have managed to try to implement it. But I'd have to say, Roy Evans, of Roy Evans philosophy, although it was as well, it was very similar to the way Brendan plays. You know, we defended high up the pitch. Robbie Fowler, Stan Cauleymore, you know, we chased down sort of the defenders. We tried to win the ball high up the pitch. You got on the attack from there. Yeah, we were very expansive. Great going forward, easy on the eye. When we got to the final third, inevitably, we could create a chance. So, you know, we create something where one of the strikers, or Stevie Mack, would get an opportunity to score. And we scored a lot of goals. That's in our downfall, like it was last season, with our defensive record. It wasn't great. Lapses in concentration cost us goals, which cost us points at the end of the day. Valuable points, which probably cost us the league. So, there are parallels to last season's team, and the way they played, and how it sort of panned out the season. So, it'd be much of our season, 95, 96, 97. Yeah, it's fascinating to hear you speak about Roy Evans there, and the way, as you say, like the word philosophy is overused now, and people do analyze things like that. But did Roy go out of his way to keep it simple, straight forward for you guys, was there a very simple kind of notion, as you say, press high, try and retain possession, and we're team talks that direct. Liverpool's based, you know, Liverpool's philosophy. If you want to use that word, it's been around since the '50s, since the early '50s, you know, Bill Shankly brought it in. Yeah. You know, training was very much the same. Obviously, there'd be more emphasis on fitness as the years went by, but it was very much, you know, the same as what Bill Shankly's vision was. Training was very similar. You know, the kind of player that Liverpool brought was very similar to what Shankly's vision was. And that just went down a line from Shank, you know, into Paisley, into Feig, into Diadolish. You know, soon I tried to change it a little bit, and obviously it was, you know, it was kicked out, and it went back, it went back into the hands of Roy Evans, and Roy took it back to Liverpool's philosophy, you know. And then when the ball high up the pitch and we attacked from there, we attacked with PACE. There's an urgency in what we try and do. You know, we're not on the ball too long, we're always limited to it. The amount of time on the ball is always options. Now, that's a Brendan Rodgers team, but if you look back through the years, that's how Shankly's team was, Paisley's, Feig and Devon, Diadolish's team, they were all like that. Yeah. So Brendan's not reinventing the way, but I don't feel. He's just taking it back, probably from what Roy had, Roy Hodgson had it, back to what we know. Yeah. And he's doing it, and he's doing it well. As a fellow who's got a good feel for the local scene, what's your take on Ricky Lambert and his situation? You know, it's a story that the paper's like, but how do you feel he's got a cobra? And have you seen him maybe sort of being a bit struggling with it a little bit? Yeah. I mean, the fairy tale's not here, Ricky Lambert's great in it. I mean, one, you know, you tell your kids and they aspire to, and they never give up hope. There's always an opportunity to join your boy, your club, like I did. It come a little bit later for Ricky, didn't it? You know, the story comes out loud, you know, one league and then lower leagues and come through the ranks and stuff. I've got to admit, when Brendan signed him, I did question Ricky, really, because he was never going to play, like consistently in Liverpool's first team. You know, he said when Suarez was still there, he was never going to play. He's never going to be a regular. Now, if you'd have stayed at Southampton, he probably would have played 35 games this season. Yeah. You know, Liverpool will play out until the games come on maybe 20 times, only so, you know, there is that question about Ricky where he wants his career to go. But then you look on the flip side, and Liverpool only come knocking once. And I think if you get the opportunity to sign for Liverpool, whatever the situation may be, then sometimes the urge to go there is too much. And obviously, Ricky felt that. He's coming to me at maybe the twilight of his career. You know, the end of the day, I mean, I've been doing a bit of press tonight and, you know, I've been hopping on about football, there's only left with their memories of playing. You know, no one really gets the toss really about what's really what you want and all that kind of stuff. But I'd play as individuals, personally, you know, you're left with your memories, and I look back very strongly on my career. And I'm Ricky will look back on his very, very strongly, but also Ricky will look back at the day he's had for Liverpool. And that's great for him. Yeah. But, you know, for Liverpool, there is a time and a place for Ricky Lambert. There is, you know, all the way, let me need a goal. You know, cup games, you know, the strength and depth, Ricky's part of that. So, you know, we'll have to see at the end of the season what is there and what is value in his contributions. Jason, how you feel? Listen, just a quick one on Ricky Lambert. Do you get the impression that he might be mentally struggling a bit with the pressure of playing for his boyhood club? And what was it like? Obviously, I remember the, when you saw him from, I think you were a bit hard and emotional when you were doing a bit of a press interview that day after the announce that you were actually sawing. What was it like in terms of the pressure on yourself when, you know, to turn out and perform for the boyhood club? For your boyhood club, you know, after you've made the sawing in on the whole off? Yeah, I think the euphoria dies down and sort of does sell that I'll actually sign. You know, that's quickly forgotten. You're expected to then perform. You don't get a lot of time, you know, to bed in. You don't get a lot of time to not play well. You have to sort of hit the ground running really and it was different for me. I was, I was very young fit and, you know, I had play, I was playing out of position as well, which I actually enjoyed really. You know, I'd gone into right back and then into the right wing back and I was enjoying it. And I was sort of left just to get on with it really, but putting in decent performances. I think what's different to Ricky is that strikers are just on goals, aren't they? And, you know, they have to score goals hitting the ground running for them and scoring goals. And, you know, once that goal doesn't come, then all of a sudden the pressure, then you try a little bit harder, then it becomes more and more difficult. Then the fans get on your back, they question your ass. Plus the performances aren't great at Liverpool at the minute, you know. So he's having to battle that. If Liverpool were winning and they were winning by two and three, although Ricky hasn't scored, I don't think people would be suggesting he's not quite off to the job. I think because the team's not playing well, because they're not winning games, because Ricky's not contributing to scoring goals. I think all of a sudden the knives are out, the things are being pointed. I think, you know, once the dust settles with the performances and the balance is right at the team, and if you get a goal goes in off his backside, I think we'll start seeing a more comfortable with he lamb as opposed to a Ricky lamb, but it's probably trying too hard at the minute. Yeah. Jay, so you're doing it, Steve. I just had a quick question. One of my favourite memories of yours, or the game that I remember quite well, is when you scored the penalty after, scored the rebound of the penalty, when Fowler tried not to get David Siemens set off, and I just wondered what are your memories of that game, and did Fowler ever explain what he was doing afterwards? No, I mean, I go after that and there's what we need to miss that penalty. If Robbie Fowler went to miss the penalty, stick it wide or stick it high. So, if he's on target, he even could have died the other way from here and he could have gone in. You know, David Siemens made a good save. Naturally, it was my first Premier League goal, and we played nothing in the forest. There started me before, and I'd had 13 stitches in my head. Dean Saunders had elbowed me from a corner, and I'd have to go off with 13 stitches. So, there was a bit of a concern that I wasn't going to be 50 Arsenal game. I think it was mid-week, wasn't it? Yeah, it was, yeah. So, we travelled down, and obviously, it wasn't really a time of squad rotation. So, if you found yourself out of the team, you could be finding yourself waiting a while to get back in it. So, giving you share to, you know, one, like a form is one thing, but through an injury is another. And I felt, although it was a head injury, and I probably advised not to play, I just told the gaffer that was fit. And I just said, "Listen, I'm fit. I can play." And I got bandaged up, and I just went out and played. And then, moving forward, I always felt was obviously scoring the rebounds from Robbie's corner. And then, I just, I feel what else had just happened as well. I just don't know Washington, I'd be. So, at the end, by the Arsenal fans, so obviously, when it scores, that's the sweetest pill to take in it when you can give some stick back in it. So, I ran away to the end, because you're at the Arsenal end, and I can't repeat what I said to the Arsenal fans. Your hair looked lovely, man. I mean, it looked lovely. Yeah, it did. So, maybe you can throw some light in this. He was the better Irish Liverpool rifle, you are safe in it. I was probably me, I think. I'm done with that. No, I mean, Stevie's spending was a great player. You know, I left Liverpool under a bit of a prior to controversy with Jeddah and the club was moving in a different direction. And I look back now, I think, maybe I should have stuck it out a bit longer, but I wanted to play. I had a career for Ireland that wanted to carry on and play. I had decided to move. Like I said, maybe you're looking back. Maybe I should have stuck it out a bit longer. But, obviously, bigger bass song from the end, and Marcus Babble will come in. And, you know, I'm quite fond of that right back position at Liverpool. And I do look out for it. And I went to see his spending sack at the club. I was made up. I felt like, you know, a real homeboy had gone back there. You know, a fellow Irish player has gone back. And this year, you know, it was back where it belongs with it, with an Irishman in that position back in the Liverpool team. So, it was a big fan of Stevie's spending when he was there. And, obviously, when the champion really got made up for him. You know, he's a great lad. He's a great lad. Just before we let you go, then, Jason, on that right back situation, and looking back and focused back on the team as it is, what do you see as the future there? Is it heavier Manquayo in your opinion? Obviously, Glenn's forms come under a bit of scrutiny over the last few months, and sort of the back end of the last year. And, you know, Glenn, the quality right back. He is, there's no shadow about it. You know, there is a little bit of question mark over his construct in whether he's trying to convey or the main scene. Manquayo has been signed on a two-year loan deal, obviously, with the chance of him signing at the end of it and making the move permanent. So, we'll have to wait to, I think, what Glenn does. I think Manquayo, it's a big step up to cutting the Spanish straight into the Premier League at a young gauge. Although, he was at a lesser car, and he went through that tremendous season. He's made last season, and he's got a bit of experience. It is different week in, week out at the Premier League. It's a lot more physical. And I think there will be a time for him to come out to the team and be vested and then maybe go back in. I think he will share that position in Johnson this season. I think Glenn and probably in his final year, I think, as I'm right saying, I think you'll see it as more improved. Glenn Johnson this season, with the points approved, with a new contract hanging over his head. He'll want to put some better performances and improve that form. So, that's a way to see how that comes out. Another guy who's going to be in the shake-up there is John Flanagan. And with the Derby coming up. What were your own memories of the Derby and what it means to be part of it when you're from the area? Yeah, they're not great games to play in. Certainly for someone who's from the area. The kind of dynamic of games and school you play, then everyone just sort of run after the ball and just kick. That's what it's like. It's like on a denial an hour, no fun to get to play, then it's just to smash each other they are. That's one of the obvious things. It's like the crowd really intimidate when he goes to Ferguson. There's a real intense atmosphere at Anfield. Obviously, there's bragging rights on the line. And the press sort of starts on the Monday after the previous game. You know, the build-up is a lot longer than the normal printer. He gave the two three starts around there. The build-up is from Mundi. I think as well, there's even more on it because of the way the two teams have started, Evan and started as Paulie at Liverpool. Yeah. So there's a lot more right on the game. I do think Liverpool will come up on top in the derby. We've seen some of the other hand over the last few years. But then the phone box do go out the window when it comes to this game. But I think Liverpool are starting off quality still to beat Evan. You know, it's all starting well for Evan. They are struggling. They haven't found that balance in consistency. They're like Liverpool, but I think they're going to have to play. So I do see Liverpool going in. I think they'll be tight. I think Liverpool will win it by one now, maybe. Well, that's a good note. And Jason, you're a gen. Thanks for taking the call and taking the time. No problem. Right, let's start and have a look at the game that's coming up next, which is Middlesbrough in the Capital One Cup. Selection's going to be very interesting here, fellas. Well, we'll, because we probably won't know how to do this game. We probably won't know half the lads. OK, there's several injuries. There are others who may end up being rested or anyway. There's debates to be held about that. It's going to be a very interesting-looking team, Paul, isn't it? Yeah, that's one way of putting it. No idea. Well, we probably could see a few kids with the injuries that we have. We kind of have to, don't we? Yeah, we have to kind of protect the players. But also, I remember saying this last year where there's a few lads here just saying, "No, fuck the cops. Just play, just rest everybody." You can see an art anthem tonight. That always puts the shit to me. I want us to put out some decent players, but at the same time, you have to rest people for the therapy. I don't know why he's going to do it, really. That's my insights of analysis. That's exactly why you're on the big books, fellas. [LAUGHTER] So golden, especially for it, clearly. [LAUGHTER] I want a bit of middle sprit it. [LAUGHTER] I've been watching them out, see. [LAUGHTER] Flurry, tell me about the last day of my career. [LAUGHTER] Because he's from a sport club. [LAUGHTER] Junior was a quality player. [LAUGHTER] He told me about the middle field, Flurry. Who are we going to do there? What middle field? Yeah, I know. What are we going to do there? They just hardly Henderson's struggling. Yeah. Jureg. Fuckin' better than hostile. Anywhere in here, around tomorrow. So what does it look like? What does it look like? It's pretty dim. It's going to be pretty grim in there. Hopefully some of it didn't. Fuck Lucas in there anyway. Let's arrest him for the derby. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Hey, Barry. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Put it this way. Margaret's just going to play. If Margaret plays, we've got to change the way we play. Because he's going to play with it. OK. So we're probably going to go four across the middle. So we can drop one of the lads out there. So you can go across there, you can go Lucas. [INTERPOSING VOICES] That's the till. You push the line into the rear. Margaret's on the left. Yeah. Then you've got a four. You've got a base of four. You probably stick with Barry and you give him another 90 minutes under his belt. And he'll start Ricky Lammer at the front. There's no two-way's belt. Yeah. He said he's-- He said he's-- He said he's-- You can put McLachlan on a refill. Yeah. I think Kevin Stewart also had him in the back. He either or it's going to be one of the lads anyway from the younger age. I don't think John's going to be so. I don't think he is either. You put Collo in, Santa Half. It's going to be cycle. It's going to kill you. It's going to be cycle. Because the way it is, he's poor choice. Yeah. I don't want to be but used to altruism. Brandon's had his tortures. Yeah. So it's going to be cycle and tore it, I believe. No. What do you make in the comments, though, from the manager where he's saying he's taking the competition seriously and he really wants to work? How do you feel about that? Well, that could be, as always thinking you today, he might want to get a bit of confidence into the lads and go with a fairly strong team. I'd hate to fucking say it. No, I really would. I'd hate to see him. We want to win the game. We want to get through. We want to get international and put it this way. We are a mess around last year saying forget all the copes. Let's concentrate on the leg. But it's good to hear a manager that does want to take competition a little bit seriously. And he could be looking at this sign where we've lost him on the spin. Can we get a soy down on the pitch and get a bit of confidence into the lads and maybe get a good win out of it? So he might go with a fairly strong team. I think there's a real possibility of that. And the fact that he's melting zeta. I didn't actually hear him saying that. Well, if I just melt zeta, I thought he could be leading into it. So when he does nine to ten, that the whole kind of fanbase doesn't know what. You're down here. You need the rest of it. You need the rest of it out. He might be just going to see us now. It's a horrible time for us to have this match. Now with the injuries and the derby coming up. With the deal he's made out of saying we want silverware to season. It's obviously a good cup that you can go for. It's a horrible time to have to play this match with the plated squad and the big game coming up. It's not a game either. It's not a game either. It's not a game either. It's not a game either. It's not a game either. I think he's going to play a very strong side. I would say I'd play through the back because I think Skirtle needs minutes. So I'd play Skirtle. Yeah. And Embring Sak on Torian. Play through the back. Play Mad Hosey on the left. Bombing forward. Play someone on the right. Don't really know. Because then you don't have to play as many midfielders which is good because we're going to have any. So you're already playing maybe roster. Royce. Yeah, that's it. Maybe it wouldn't play Lukas. He's actually getting excited at this moment. He went in and got himself his own squad number. You don't know. Just in case, boss. Just in case. Okay, Colin. Okay. Get the cones there. When you're in there. I knew these shorts would come in handy. New boots. Markovish will play Lambit or play. Suzo will play. So I mean, you know, I think it'll be relatively strong. I mean, all those plays were named. They're all first team squad members. I don't think he's apart from someone he has to play in midfield and maybe right back. I don't think there's going to be too many kids. I think the midfield. I'm not sure we'll go straight at the back. I think we... I think, yeah, Enrique plays. I think he probably plays Manquil because he did take him off quite early in the game. He's probably seen a good game from the play in. Yeah. Unless Flanagan is feared or John Glenson is feared, it'll be one of the other. It'll be one of them. And they'll be feared. And they'll be feared. And they'll be feared. They'll be feared. They'll be feared. They'll be feared. And they'll be feared. And they'll be feared. They'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be feared. And then they'll be heard. And then they'll be feared. Well, you probably can't because you have to play midfield. But the midfield, I think, will be interesting. I'd start Lucas, I'd give Rastar a go on this because I would say they're even looking up potentially letting Rastar go out and alone in the winter window. Until the end of the season. Maybe to a championship club to see if it comes on. So this will be the standard team you've been playing against anyway. And then I'd play Susso. Susso plays like Coutinho in the number eight role when he's playing for the Spanish underage teams. And that's where he can play. He played for there before he came to us. So I'd play him there. I don't think we lose anything but play him there. He's been out in Spain. He's been out. He's played for Steve Football all last season. He hasn't had a look in. We're down to the bones with midfielders. I wouldn't want to see Henderson and Gerard risking this because if Henderson's carrying a bit of a knock, we can't afford to lose him ahead of the actual derby. And then up front, if we're playing Lambert and we're playing Burini, Burini, when they loaned Burini out last year, they got him to play as a right-sided forward. And we have Markovic who played as a left-sided forward with Benfica. And you have Lambert then as essentially a target man. But with Burini and Markovic, both of them will work their flanks as well. So it's not how Brendan justified saying that he's taking it seriously and it's going to be a fairly strong team. If it's a lineup along those lines. If you're looking at that, you're not looking at it. Like, potentially you're really only looking at Rastner and Susso coming into the side. You know, that wouldn't be a shame squad for looking ahead to the weekend. But also then none of the front six that play tomorrow start the derby. That's what he's able to do both then. Yeah. Because if they're saying storage, potentially fish. Talk to me about the significance of needing to register a win here. I mean, it can't be underestimated. We've lost three out of five. It depends on your opinion on this, right? I would be in the camp that because we're in the Champions League this year. Yeah. And because we need to be back in the Champions League again next year, I wouldn't be that pushed on a run in the League Cup to be honest with you, right? It's not that we have a bank of kids that we want to play in this because if you're taking this and we're playing that type of team, we want to get minutes under the belt for the lads who are part of the squad and who may have to come in and play. So for me, it's not that big of a deal. I know it's a Cup game and it's great to win silver and blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not a big fan of it. Given that we have so many games in the Champions League, we've already got issues with fitness in the squad. So I'll watch it. I'll enjoy it for what it is. It's not going to hold the same fear factor for me as I say to Darby Ward if we don't get the result. But think about the squad and the idea of four losses at six. That's not good, is it? Yeah, but losing is not a good thing. Anyway, we've lost two back-to-back. Now, if you can't get a reaction when you go into something like this and you're bringing in players who want to make a point to make a statement and get into the reckoning for starting on the force team. And they're playing against the Championship, so let's be straight about this. This isn't, they're not playing a mid-table Championship side where we've struggled. We're playing the Champions side. And if we're saying that these players are good enough to be in our force team squad, then they should be good enough to go out and do a job against middle to play. And that's, like, that person, that's more you think, I just don't see if we risk players going into the derby. And we've got, you know, the reality is we've got six games in three weeks. You know what I mean? We've played three of them and we've got the, you know, we've got another three to go now. So the truth of it is we have to be able to rotate and bring players in. And look, there's no way he's going out there going, you know, it doesn't matter if we lose. You're going to put a team on a pitch that he thinks he's good enough to beat. And, you know, if 25 million pound mark, which is on the field, the 25 million pound LaLana is on the field, you know, and she's some of those players. And, you know, the back, the back four is going to be plenty experienced. Actually, I think many little play. Why didn't have LaLana in the team? You didn't? No, I didn't. I think LaLana's. I probably didn't have him in the team simply because if I look ahead... You forgot about him. No, no, no. I'm looking ahead to the Derby and I'm looking at potentially who's fit to play in this side. You know, I know we'll preview him in the Derby later in the week, but if you want to change to not play Lucas in the team, you're probably looking at 4-2-3-1 or something around that with LaLana playing in the 10 positions. He probably needs a candle. No, I think you'll play the Diamond in the Derby. I think Coutinho will be fit, Anderson will be fit. Yeah, I'm still in the 10. Yeah, but I know what you mean. But I think you'll give LaLana minutes because you only got 4-5. You might already have 4-5, maybe 60. Probably, but then in my mind then, Lustre probably misses out. Because in terms of who's closer to the force team and who will be seen as being more force team ready, then it's probably so in that instance. But you're leaving yourself very light in mid-years. That's what I think I think of it. I don't know. I don't know. I think he's got options. I think that's a good thing. I think it's interesting. When we see the team tomorrow, none of us have really a good idea of who's going to start by Ricky Lambert. I agree with you, he needs to have a game. He needs to do something. No, I play in him because I'm playing Jones in the Derby. I'm not playing Jones in the Derby. Do you remember going to some park? I would really ask you about it when we talked about mid-year-lay. Would you drop mid-year-lay for the Derby? If we saw in Valdez, if he was fit like a month ago, yeah. But no. Do you want to go for Jones? No. If it would be a silly question to ask if anybody has any insight into how Middlesbrough will be operating tomorrow. I'm really worried about Ramanelli. You want to ask me? Brian Robson as well, he's an upper company. Sorry. Hey, that is a no. You used to manage your Middlesbrough. You used to be a... No, actually, they have a good goalkeeper. Luke, something other I think is his name. This is great. Is it Luke Steel? It could be. Let's go with that. That fella was like you made up like centuries ago. I think so. That is a new player. Can you name a player? Luke Steel. There's Ayala still play for them. Do you remember you were supposed to have for us? Yeah. Didn't you go to Middlesbrough? I thought he went to Norwich, wasn't it? This is stunning. So the danger players from Middlesbrough. Yeah. Ravanelli. Janenia. I know Ayala. And Luke Steel. Excellent. Excellent. Whoa, that's the way you go. Paul, let's get out of here because we don't know what we're talking about and give me a prediction. Five injuries, that's it. Yeah. Extra time at five injuries, that's what we're talking about. That's just a play for him, Neil. I guarantee he doesn't play for him. Bloody prediction, please. I think they're going to be difficult. They're going to just do what Moms Championship. So they're going to Presley Fork. Yeah, they're going to steal that. That's it. Great job. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're going to make the leg tip. This is a warm cup that let them championship teams look at and say we can get a good one on this. And they will be fairly strong. And one thing about Championship, so it's a very warm and they will walk us to the fucking balance. I love based on this. No, no, no. Championship football. Thanks. Championship football. This is tremendous. Was that Championship football? Oh, I think we've got extra time. I think we've got extra time. I think we've got extra time. An extra time victory. I love that very good. And beautiful nationalization beforehand, Dave. Yeah, I agree with Friday. I think we'll go next time. Well, I don't know if we'll win it, but it'll definitely go next time. But I think we're going to extra time. I think it'll be like the ludicrous game. You know, we'll probably have loads of the ball. We'll probably really be really frustrating going forward. We'll definitely concede a stupid goal. I mean, that's definitely happening. Let's be honest. Definitely there's an injury happening. That's definitely happening through to extra time. And then we'll squeak through. Sorry, I actually think it'll be relatively comfortable just to be cantankerous, Phil. I think we'll win five nil. Oh, my God. What's happened? Ricky Lambert Hatrick. Ricky Lambert Hatrick. That's a good one. Because of the Sondelante. Yeah, you're talking shit. I ain't going to start falling out of school. You don't have that door in the world, man. Luke's there. Lovely. I am Lou Chware. You are listening to Trippen's Chat. With Trippen. Right. First question for you, fellas, to think about is from Lloyd. And Lloyd is wondering, which manager do you reckon will get sacked first? I'm taking this, and it's not that I reckon I'm actually hoping you lose, and that's paired you. Right. And I'd stand the man. What, what, what, what, what upset you? It hits, aren't you? Why? Did you not see that void of their reason? He was on the side of the pitch, and he was fucking gone. Now I'm looking monkey, and now he's pointing fingers at people, and then he's going to make a smile face, and obviously he's tactical genius. Yeah. He's an absolute clown. He just droids me. Some pardew and monkey gesture shame, isn't he? That's a broken, you're an activist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be one of his least offensive things he's doing. I would have thought. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of enjoying the fucking purgatory. The pardew's in at the moment, like, worry. It's like when you fucking hate your job, but you can't afford to quit. Yeah. He's just trying to get sacked. Like, the next thing he's going to do is... What does that mean? Actually, it won't. It costs too much money, and pardew pisses off the Newcastle fans, which actually loves... Why don't... Actually, it's like the biggest wind-up mission to ever exist on the earth. Yeah. He bought the club, took the piss out, and got them relegated. Got them back up, gave them brief hope, right? And then took it all away again, and it was just sitting there. I bet you it's just a little fun. He's obviously delighted with this. Pardew's the most secure job in the Premier League. He's not going anywhere. Yeah, but pardew gets an eight-year contract, right? He's probably at home going, "How do I get paid open this now?" I don't know what I'll do. I'll headbutt someone. He fucking heads over to my head, and he's probably walking off the pitch board. That'll do that. It's been a guarded lead. Oh, he booked. It's on the table. And at the moment, that doesn't work. But I'll just win. No games. Stop watching. Oh, no, he's grand. Oh, he's safe. Safe. Safe. Well, I need to understand, apart from Pardew. Every time I agree with you completely. Red's get him out. Red's get him out. Red's get him out. No, but this is who you want out. Oh, who you want? But I want Red out by a fucking head. Yeah, really. I head of Warnock. The reprehensible... They just beat the head. You know, I'm kind of on board. Do you know who I think could end up in danger very quickly? Because they're that club. They have him one in four. Yeah. And they are one of those clubs who will just sack. Just because that's what sports do. And they'll appoint Red Knap. Pardew, love that job. Pardew, love that job. I don't know. David Moyes. David Moyes is the man for sports. He nearly got the job. Yeah. And they put AVB in there instead. But no, Moyes, you know, he's been a man for sports. He'll talk things around. He'll get him to six. He'll be one of them. Yeah. To be fair, the Pardew, you know, I've been with the Moyes. Manverton, you know it. Yeah, yeah. To be fair, the Pardew, you know, I mean, I think they've left him very short there. Like, you know, I wouldn't be supposed to be walked. No, my Gus act. He's got no strikers. Yeah. I mean, he's got some bad. He's got no strikers. Do you know what I mean? So I think Red Knap, Pardew, you know... No, I'm still... I don't want it to happen because I want the torture to go on. I can still see a Van Gogh storming out of here around Christmas time. Why the fuck are all my defenders? What the fuck is going on here? Yeah. Well, one man who's probably like safe as hell is this... Despite the fact that some of those Rogers idiots actually genuinely came forward there in the last couple of days. Oh, they crawled back out the World War... I was remarkable to see. All the fraudures, regains. It's like the dark descends and the zombies just are creeping back out. I'm actually sitting there and quietly simmering while the team is doing things you've got. This is bollocks. This is... He's a fraud. I might be losing a few games like a fucking crawl out the World War. This is bollocks. They had the exact opposite experience to everyone else last season. Everyone else is great. This is fucking great. They're not going to fuck sick. Look at them. And now we're doing shit with all the press just in the... You know, the most depressing podcast I've ever had. Everyone else is all going lovely. Let's get these started. Let's show how he's worse than the hodge. Where did they leave the laptop? Well, one man who's having a bit of a moan about Brendan in the public there was in a recent interview is Danny Agar. What did you guys make of the revelations, if you want to call him that, where he reckons that maybe he and Brendan didn't really see how he did it. I know you've got a couple of contrasting opinions here. Well, I think the problem is that Daniel Agar thinks he's a footballer. And Brendan realises he's made a paper mashy. So you should shut the fuck up. Basically. That's nice and direct and harsh, Phil. You've a different opinion right now. Yeah, the comments that I taught were fair. He didn't get on with Rogers towards the end. He felt frozen out of the team. It's probably standard fair when a manager decides to move a player on. You know, he said he was straight with Rogers and Rogers didn't seem to be straight with him. But at the same time, he finished it off by sending things to Rogers as an excellent manager. And he's going to do well for Liverpool. Like, you've seen players put horse boots into managers before and you know, go out of the mail for what they are. So, you know, to be quite honest with you, I taught the comments and themselves. Like, and literally, as Agar said, he's always been straight in terms of what he said. He's always come out and been straight in the media when he's talked. And I don't really have an issue with what happens all over the place. In every workplace, people don't get on and yet they get on and they do what they need to do. Well, we had probably a conversation about this before. You know, it's rare that players talk straight these days. You know, and you know, people aren't used to players coming out. Yeah, and what he does, that's Daniel Agar. He was straight from the hip. He was being honest, but being respectful in what he said as well. So, look, I don't have, if they're genuine and they're common, you take them a face value. I don't see them being bitter towards the club or anything like that. People are trying to spin it about, you know, Brian's famously said, my communication is open, I think, is the line that he uses a lot. I think people are trying to spin it to say, well, you know, what's going on there? Why do you freeze them out? Look, come on, flip the other side. You're the manager of a football team, right? Yeah, exactly. You've decided that a player needs to be replaced. Regardless of whether we think that was the right decision or not, right? Yeah. You know, you're not going to, if he's not going during the actual season and it's not a transfer window, you know, you're not going to tell him in trying to, look, forget about it fairly, you're not getting lucky in here. No matter how good you play, I'm still going to revert to the players that I think are better than you. Yeah. Well, look, the reality is the fact that Daniel Agar's playing for Bromby are not in the, what, 14 leagues that are better than the Danish league. I mean, just prove that, all right, you can argue about the communication, but Roger's decision is the right decision. You know, if Agar was physically ready to play at a top league, he'd be playing at a top league, you know, that's the reality. I mean, you know, I can't remember who said it, but I think his decision, Agar was, play for Bromby or retirement. You know what I mean? So it's not like... It doesn't, doesn't, sorry, the reputation that Agar has for me in terms of what he performed for the club because, up until the last season, he was arguably our best centre-back for a three or four years. Oh, yes, sure. His issues were always injuries and not performance-wise for me. Very enough. Fludie, you're a man who likes an accessory. Harry Sethi, who was on the pod last week, is talking here about snoods and how they're coming up, but we were talking most ourselves, I think, their band. But he was saying, what accessory would you add to a footballer's kit? I don't think he can add any accessories to his kit. I'd say to my awareness, still, the build is now there. He can't stand them in. What water irritates you about the booties, because I hate them as well? I just love the old black and white builds, keep it all skilled. You know, I hate all these new, very builds that you wear. If you're doing a close-up, yes, I think it was in the PSJA game. It was on a close-up of Vibre images, builds something. What the fuck are they? What was going on with that? You pick your builds, you wear it. They're going to have to be up as angle. Oh, yeah. But, you know what, I'd love to bring back the old hair bands. Remember, your man used to wear it off-breed. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All with the wonderful big hair. Sweat bands. Sweat bands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going back with the black and white beads. Erick Jung used to always wear it. Yeah, he had the wine sweat band that just didn't go with the Wimbledon kit at all. It was like, wine, do you remember it was wine and then more blue and yellow? It has to be a bit of colour coordination if you're going to add some accessories. It wasn't hard, no clash, it's better, isn't it? Nah, a bit of colour coordination. Sure, the type in your socks can't even clash anymore, it hasn't been designed colour. Oh, yeah. Do you know what the latest accessory is? Go on. And if you watch carefully, you'll see it. They're all cutting their socks at around the ankle point, and they're wearing these comfort socks underneath, right? And this is the latest thing because they give you a tighter fit in your actual boot and it stops boot from slipping your feet. Now, I don't know how a pair of booties can fuck and slip in your feet. They're all wearing your ankle, right? Yeah. And they're wearing them still with that butt. You can actually see where they've caught the sock and you can see the under sock underneath it. Yeah, I can't understand how anyone wants to wear those fucking things. Do you remember the other trend you mentioned? That's the booties. Booties. What the fuck? They're horrible. Like it's a rugby player's boot. Why are you even a rugby player's boot? Because it's not leather, it's fabric. Yeah, it's like cloth or something. But like so, it's got the look of it. I can't go on about accessories because when I'm playing golf, my team like gloves are a snake skin pattern. I got them specifically so it could be the biggest continuity. There's to be goalkeeper and snake skin back there in your head to give a shout and abuse of when you're calling your wanker. I don't know what you're going to do. Yeah, exactly. I'm just getting worse and worse. You have to go get the ball. I was wolf and I wasn't wanting to wear black shorts and black socks when I was in golf. I always go for like light blue or white or whatever it could be. White shorts, white socks and white boots. I got fucking Ireland in the middle of winter just to wind them up. Just because I like it. I've got the snakes and specifically to be the biggest player you've got. You admire keepers who wear it all black. I remember you saying this. Yeah, yeah. I think it looks cool. You know what? And the black dough boots as well. That looks brilliant as well. Dave's booties. Yes, no. No, not for me. I mean, it's been a long time since I put on football boots, but no. Not for me. There's always a trend. As I said, the socks is the latest one. Remember the kinesiology tape? The pink and blue tape that we had come up the back of our legs next and down their toys and stuff. That's Spanish. Then we had the member of plasters and the nose to help you at your airways. They had the snoods. So I'm looking for something. The floaty shot of a headband is actually quality. Yeah, it's about time to headband. They're kind of heading that way, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can put enough getting in. I'm surprised nobody marketed the Peter Tchaik head helmet. I think that's hard to own version. It's got a few of them. Well, it's rugby player equipment, doesn't it? Yeah, I think it's really good. Christian Kieville had one as well. Christian Kieville. Oh, you hear some of the things from the world? Yeah, yeah. It looked like a finer pilot from all of us who was wandering around the pitch. Have you ever seen one of my planes here somewhere? Did you ever see Kieville on his gimp gear? He broke his cheekbone or something, right? He had the rugby helmet and a full face mask. Yeah, it was a very good thing. All the pictures of it. He actually looks like a gimp running around the pitch. He's punching. He's come straight from a dungeon somewhere onto the pitch in his gear. The shot was the milk gagging thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We finished off with one from Lee, and Lee is saying there's only 14 weeks of Christmas, so what would you like to have in your Christmas stocking? And he sheds around. What do you want for Christmas lads, basically? What are you looking forward to? Is there a monetary loan on this? Or is it just whatever? You can have whatever the hell you want. You can't go. I always have to have a Terry's chocolate orange and me stock them. Oh, do you, yeah? Yeah. That's how I was going to treat a Christmas morning. Ah, Jesus. It's simple. It's simple. No, yeah, I gave a selection box anyway. Santa always leaves the Christmas tree, but it's always a Terry's chocolate orange in the sock. Terry's chocolate orange selection box. Because if somebody breaks in, you can also use it as a weapon. A Terry's chocolate orange. Oh, like, as in the floor. I was thinking of, you know, the little... I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that. What the fuck is wrong with this one? Some weapon, are you kidding me? Poking them roughly in the rooms with a chocolate bar. Flowy, any thoughts? Is this what you'd like to do for Christmas? You're easily pleased, Eiffel? We just need to football over Christmas. I just like to football. Look at these fuckers. Chocolate and football. Dave, come on. Both the trend here, folks. I think we have young kids, like, you kind of forget about yourself. Oh, for fuck's sake. You do like it. No, no, no. It's horrible when you're not... You know, when you just stop making a profit and you... You start losing money at Christmas. It's the worst thing. You never get no presents. You get shit presents. That's what I mean. I fucking hated it. Do you know what? I never remember that day, the fourth day, it was Christmas and I looked so... Yeah. You got a link, sir. You know, that's just... That's all. You're in the battle, Dan. You're in the battle, Dan. It's gone. What's even worse? You get sucks in your stock. It's like... Ah, for fuck's sake. I've hung one up for presents. I didn't run fucking replacements. But in all honesty, we... Not to get all met or on this. But, you know, we live in a world where we can buy anything and want all the time. You never have to wait for anything. There's no delays, you know what I mean? You don't have to wait for Christmas, friend. If I want something blank, you know, you go there. That's what I love. I love Christmas. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. In your stock. I'll wait for one and a half. I'll wait for one and a half. One and a half. One and a half. I'll wait again. I'll wait. I'll wait. We finished off with some admin. And the Irish listeners feel like playing football should come and do so here at Astro Park. Book your pitch time at AstroPark.ie. On our website at the moment, LFCDaytrippers.com. We've lots of cool stuff. Fantastic articles and some fine writers, including some of the lads who are in the bunker tonight, Barre Deimo, obviously. And you can find details on there of a fantastic competition with Campo Retro where you can win a Retro LFC top. And that competition is going to be closing soon, so it's your last chance to enter. Also, we have a day trip planned on November 1st, LFC fans from all over the country. We'll be heading to Waterford for an overnighter in the Dooley Hotel. We're going to be there as part of it. We'll be recording something on a day. So if you want to get involved, you need to get on to YNWA Irish Reds. You may be asking where's the Derby preview? Well, fear not, because we're going to do one of our specials with AI, which will be it on Thursday. The preview of the match was basking in the warm glow of our glorious Capital One victory over Barre. In which know that Ricky Lambert will score 10 goals. You may have noticed also us mentioning our new Anfield FM show last week. Well, it'll be all done this week and hopefully live with the weekend. It's very, very different to this show, but tune in via anfieldfm.org. We've handedly embedded the player in the website so you can use any web radio app for your mobile devices. We hope and we think it's something that you'll enjoy. Your day trippers tonight were Paul Brennan, Dave Thalmas. I'm just going to start writing the articles with Dave on. [laughter] That would be brilliant if you actually write a Dear Diamond magazine. I don't know what you're saying. [laughter] You know what the funny thing is, right? A series of articles on the website. Dear Diamond, Dear Diamond, yes. And Dave more replies, "I don't give a bollocks." I spent 100 million in the summer. [laughter] 100 million in the summer. In the WhatsApp group, right? Everyone calls me Dave. And then I'm arguing with him and he goes, "Why is that David?" [laughter] He's broken into David's. It's like your mask burns your porn stuff, David. [laughter] What were you putting on the leverage? [laughter] Let me get a taste of that. I have pen-fed, that's a fact. I have pen-fed, that's a fact. My credit card purchases get me cash-banned. My credit card purchases get me cash-banned. No one else gets these rewards. Sergeant, that is just plain or true. What, intarnation? Sir, Pen-fed's power-cash rewards card isn't just for military members. Anyone can get cash-banned on all purchases. Ah, frickins, you've ruined my favorite song. Pen-fed credit union, visit pen-fed.org/powercash. To receive any advertised product, you must become a member of pen-fed, insured by NCOA. I'll only be a minute, come in with me. What is HomeSense, anyway? Look, Outdoor Furniture is in. Hey, that's a great brand. And it's a six-piece set. Check out this price. Are you sure that's not just the table? No chairs, too. Is this an outdoor rug? It is. It's nicer than our indoor rug. Outdoor Ottomans, planters, patio umbrellas, are you seeing these prices? You save a lot at HomeSense. This is the year we love our backyard. Can I say something? Yes. I'll get the truck. And that is why I love you. Save on Outdoor like never before at HomeSense. Discover a store near you at HomeSense.com. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. [BLANK_AUDIO]
Its our first birthday and we were beaten. Interestingly our first pod was after we had lost to Southampton so some deja poo in full effect. Right so we have to talk about West Ham and we cover what has to be covered given the god awful affair we witnessed on Saturday evening. Thankfully we have a great interview with Jason McAteer the former Red and Irish International to lighten things up. We follow that with a unique lack of insight into the Boro game and round out with trippers chats where we discussed who’s next manager for the chop, daggers quotes and christmas stockings.Get on the competition to win a Campo Retro jersey on the website at www.lfcdaytrippers.com Please vote for us for the FBA awards using the links below Podcast: http://ctt.ec/djL3x New: http://ctt.ec/93oeGClub: http://ctt.ec/a8U0rAlso a big thanks to 5Times for sorting the McAteer interview they are coming back to Ireland and to Cork in October for 2 intimate nights details are below
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