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This was far from straightforward win, and the manner in which the three points were attained was not what some of the splendid precincts in football had suggested it might be. So should we just be content with a winning start against a team that showed more ability and cohesion than their decimation might have led us to believe, or is there a bit of the cold for concern after that game? Chris, could you start us off there, please? My client has made a lot of it for no reason, it looks like he's doing a good job, basically, so far, but I think the way that they play football is really interesting. We play with a very high-pressing game, and I think Rodgers was probably a little pragmatic in his approach on Sunday against them, because when we did press them high up the pitch, I felt he passed it round, it was very, very easily, and then the sort of cut through was in that when the sort of attack was really well. So I think Rodgers was a little bit pragmatic, it's been a bit of a bogey team under him, Southampton anyway, and he's gone, do you know what, it's more important to get the friggin three points than score four like we did against Dortmund and get attacked on the break. Yeah, and given that there was that, I think a lot of people would roll in behind you there and agree that there was caution on display, given that should we just basically contend we got three points in the board to open the season. Oh, fucking right, I mean, it's one of them, isn't it? It was so nervous inside the ground, because it matters so much this early on in the season already, and that's because we know it's going to be tight this season, and we know that if we drop points, it's going to put massive pressure on us, and I think that the Cloud was nervous because of that. But more importantly, look, we've got to get the three points, and Rodgers and Ferris team did it last year as well, we didn't start great. We were pragmatic in our approach at the beginning of the season, and the fluidity, and we basically started digging teams further on in the season, I think much the same one up again. Chris, you were sitting there, standing there in the crowd, I'm sure on the day, it seemed really quiet at times and really edgy, I mean, basically, if you were listening to the coverage I was listening to, it was mostly said, I don't know if I had to get here, saying it was that real tension that has been in the ground before, is that fair to say, or was it different when you were there? No, no, it was spot on, to be honest, and it was much the same for a lot of last season as well. I think it's, we're not used to winning anymore, and it matters so much to all of the fans that we do get that league title for the first time in our many years, that we just don't know how to deal with it, and to be honest, I was talking to Paul's dad, Paul after Redmond, his dad was saying, it was exactly the same when we were winning, he said you feel the nerve so much, that it is difficult to get that atmosphere going, so fans don't, fair play to, and they came, they fucking sang the heart out, they gave love and some stick, good set of fans, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Molly, where are you in terms of the overall feeling you got from the game, a happy overall, content overall, was it more of a sort of disappointment in the way that the performance planned out? Well, for me, Trev, it's like a play in lending, every play in lending is a good lending, and for me, every win is a good win. So you can't really be, okay, we are a bit nervous at times, but I think a lot of that is the players know themselves that they're up for another title tilt this season. In previous years, we might have looked at it up in the game after season, and winning those, it wouldn't be much of a big deal, there's still plenty of the season left to go, but already it's only one game, and already people are talking about a title push, which is a big way as you think about it, but what we showed last season, that is why the talk is there. So I was delighted to get to win, I didn't care how we came about, it was a scrappy one nil, two won victory, or a five-wheel victory, I didn't mind as long as we got that victory. Basically you take them all season and accept the nerves once we keep getting the points. How many titles have many, I don't want in the past, which does scrappy one-wheel victories are lastly goals and so on. So most certainly, I don't mind how the win comes about, if they come about like we did at times last season, where we absolutely blitz teams and won four nil and five-one and six-one, so fantastic, but if it comes down to that and we're just scrapping two wins, I'll take that every day of the week. Yeah, bloody sure. Lee, Molly makes a very good point there, you know, we should really just be counting our blessings were being considered in the same kind of level as the elite teams now and we got the bloody result. Are we really though? If any of the pondistry going around the likes of the sports challenge these days is anything to go, boy, you wouldn't think we're being considered in that league at all. You've picked up not the dismissive thing, dude, and yeah. That's the dismissive thing. We've been completely fucking written off from our angles. You know, sure, I think if you still go to the odd bookie, you're still going to find you know, editor, actually shorter us on the title than we are. No, that's remarkable. Fucking comical, you know, I found a great deal of similarity in the opener to this season to the one last season. You know, like a team from the upper mid echelon of the table with a new manager still trying to adjust to, well, not really a new way of playing, I think, who would have actually continued, uh, Pochettino's, uh, kind of way his methods more, more to the way, like more than my cues would have continued on from Tony Peele's in the previous season. But it ended, like, you know, the, the similarity was actually very striking, you know, like it was a hard for a game. We were made work for the three points, a winning goal from Sturridge and, uh, an intervention for Minnule at the end that coined, well, that, you know, let's call it what it was. He actually did service the three points despite the fact that he was rather nerdy, nearly the entire game. Yeah. Yeah. And it seemed, uh, it seemed like we were going to start the same way. We didn't exactly come out of the traps very early last season and it seems like we're still sort of, it'll probably be, you know, we'll probably be going through all the lower gears before we actually get going in this season as well. Like, and, but with a game as big as sitting next week, it's a little bit of a cause for a concern. Yeah. Yeah. We call it too much of a cause for concern. But I think that, uh, I think Southampton were probably more of value for the three points on the day than we were. I think we really stole it to be honest. Yeah. Phil, a lot of symmetry there, as Lee says, between the first martial arts season and the first one in this campaign, um, and the key person involved, the key two people are standing down in storage. And mainly I won't talk to you, but mainly like he was probably our most important player. It's arguably on the day. Yeah. Um, like going back to the, you know, I, I said this the last, last Monday when we recorded that I thought this was going to be a toy game. Um, and I think most people who, who, who look at our opening day form for the last 10, 11 years, we, we've rarely won by more than one go. And we've struggled to win our opening day matches. That's only the four time we won our opening day game in 11 seasons. Um, so, you know, we always, we, we have in recent history struggled to win our opening match. And that's even coming off seasons where we finished when I was up or, you know, challenged for a title or even come off the back of Europe or whatever it is, it's a mad stat that that's actually there. But you know, when, when I think back to the game, everything that, you know, could possibly go wrong on the day, almost did in terms of what was there. It was questionable selection, there was, you know, a mistake that led to their goal. We let them back into the team. We dropped our tempo, all that type of things, but crucially, crucially, we won that game. And I, I, I, I said it last week, it didn't give a fuck about the performance. We had to win that opener match with the two games in front of us. We had to win it was a win at all costs and we won at all costs. The huge thing for me that was something a little bit different to the way we won games last year was we managed to score in the second half of the game. We pulled the game back to us as well, you know, after Lucas was taken off, Gerard becomes more influential on the game. And you can actually see it does a thing of linking into the part of the night where it actually shows the average position of the play over 90 minutes. And I sent it to you last night, and it's very intuitive when you see where it is. And Gerard becomes a huge focal point from about the 60 toward minute on, which is when Lucas goes off the actual pitch. And it just changed our shape, we become a lot more compact and we, we, we play a lot better. It looks like that we play a lot more passes through the midfield that we had been up until then. And so, you know, there's a lot of good things, but many like to me, listen, the guy, I questioned whether he long term he would, he would deal because he'd have to step up a gear again. And I was, I was delighted with his performance. I was absolutely delighted. I, I know Lee said, you know, he, he looked a bit dodgy, whatever, but to me it wasn't the guy came for everything last year, we, we said, you know, he was hesitant to come out for crosses. He came for every cross. And as a goalkeeper, you don't have to catch the ball, you have to get a tell and touch on it. You have to change the direction of all. If you change the direction of the ball, every player is going for the ball in one direction. If you make the slightest touch on it, you can take it off a player's head. And he did that on a couple of occasions. He got a great punch where he actually got a free against and put a card out. And his saves, listen, he's, he's a lead class when it comes to shot stopping in, in the world. He's seen it yesterday, the, the touch he gets on that, he can only see it in playback, but the touch is essential for a change in the direction of the flight in the ball and to the underside of the crossbar. And for all the improvements that we made, as you say, in terms of the shape and look, we're going to go on top about talk about Lucas and the midfield and Jared and all that, but for all the improvements, that chance that they had at the end, that, that's not going to have had at the end. I mean, that save is, it's a stunning save. It's incredible. I remember when, when, when the shower again, and you see the touch, I, if Paul Brennan here, it was, I, I was standing up, go, gee, that's brilliant. You know, just, it was incredible and it's a real, it's, it's the same as, as the moment from last year against the Stoke game, you know, that's the penalty save and then the follow-up save. Like the follow-up save was just as essential and that penalty save against Stoke last year as the actual penalty save. And that there, there was also another save he made, which is brilliant. He was going the wrong way. He came back. It was another Schneuerland chance at one arc. The one down low to his right. Down low to his right. Amazing. And it's an incredible save. And watch it back again. His weight has transferred all the way on to his left foot. And he has to get his body back down and holds on to the ball with, with a Southampton player closer. Listen, the guy had a, in my mind, he showed, he showed a new level to his game, which wasn't there previously. He still has issues with speed and distribution. He still, but even his mid-range passes were a lot better than has been seen. He was hitting his fallbacks with the, with the passes to the halfway line. And, and I seen as well, at certain times in the fourth half, when are midfield, before Luke's legs gone at about 30 minutes, we were pushed on a lot higher and many late starting position was a lot harder than it has been. I could see him in the camera frame, which he didn't see him in the camera frame last year when the ball was in the middle toward the pitch. And that's what we were hoping for. That's what we're hoping to see. I want to see him keep that up now. If he keeps that up for the season, there's a chance this guy can go on to be a special bellkeeper. Tell me about that. The one incident I wanted to talk about as well, the high kind of floaty one that was looking like he was going to drop into the top corner. Now a lot of people were saying, oh, he should have held it. But for me, that's a super save. Listen, from, from the reports that was there, it was a very swirly breeze in Anfield. The bar was in, Chris, you can probably say if this was riding up, but the bar was in the floyd of the wind. So when it was cut up, he wasn't expecting it to dip as much as it was, and his re-adjustment of his feet and the way he dealt with the bar was exceptional because he ends up colliding with the post. He catches that bar, collides with the post, there's a good chance that he drops the ball. And because there's no player around him, somebody can just slap that ball home down at that point. He does exactly what you need him to deal with that one. Now that's spot on, I mean, I was right online with that free kick, and I was worried big time that he wouldn't get across in time, or he wouldn't notice that they get caught up in the wind. And then, as you say, I think that's an absolutely great save, and that's one of the saves that wasn't picked up on in the media. Yeah. Yeah. And Chris, again, as a man who's looking off to get to see it live, what did you make of the man making his competitive debut there, Dejan Lovren, and there's Mokker there, Skirtle alongside him. How did that look as a pairing for you? As a pairing, I think they've got something there, I think there's something to work on, do you know what I mean? I think Lovren's a real big talk, and you can hear him on the sidelines, and that's something that we've obviously lacked. Not just since Carriga, but in the type of play that he has since hit you really more than anything, because he's an organizer as well, and I think he actually gave Skirtle a bit of his voice, because Skirtle's looking at me and going, "Fucking Ellie, are you in here last season, you're telling me what to do, do you think you are like Dejan Lovren's career?" The only thing I would say about Skirtle is that I still don't think we leave the two centre backs exposed quite often, and he's not good in space. He's good as a unit of four defenders, and whether he can adapt to that this season or not will remain to be seen, but Lovren was, "Are we dealt with that groch of a pellet?" You know what I mean, that, you know, you hear the name "pelly", never seen him before, you think little Samba skills kind of guy, you know, he's like a man mountain of a friggin tank playing up front like, and you're like, "Are you the fuck's that like?" "That's pellet, you're having a fucking laugh aren't you, that's not pellet." If I want to be a botanthic, I don't want to be the botanth there Chris, what you think is actually pronounced "pelly". I don't give a damn way to do that. I say it, I just say it, and that's it. Listen, you just wanted to get his first c-word of the night game there, that's all right. Molly, the guys either side of Lovren and Skirt, of course, talk about the two lads of you want, but the guys either side, Mankio and Johnson, we can probably talk at length more about Johnson, but let's focus on the young man making his competitive debut, Mankio, how did you feel he did on the day? Yeah, he did a title game. He said he looked a bit gamy, like he's, at one stage I was looking for some stats over the weekend that he pressed for the ball like 14 times compared to Johnson's two times to the whole game, and Roger's whole philosophy of the game is all about pressing for the ball and not giving the opposition time in the ball. So you can certainly see why he'd won some like Mankio in the side, and what's really impressive is he's only, he's only at the club, but two weeks probably had to cooperate in the sessions with the first team and he started riding, you could see that he is still a bit raw, he is still a bit rusty, but after a few games in that side, he's wanted to look over. Yeah, he isn't here. Wasn't dissimilar to the very first appearances we saw of Flanagan back in Kenny's time, like just the enthusiasm sort of made up for any of the other shortcomings, he looked a little, I think he got caught a couple of times positionally, but Jesus, as you say, he's gamey, like he really does. He also anticipated a couple of very good ones too. There's definitely a player there, isn't there? Yeah, this cool comparison to Mankio actually planning, it reminds me a bit of the way Flanagan plays, and plus he caught out, so my three crosses coming into the ball, and our big weakness last season was crosses coming into the ball, and so three crosses in one game is another impressive start from the last season, a really good game, and even going back to our other debut in Thunderdae, I thought he was sublime, I really did, he was absolutely fantastic, I know a few people were saying he could have did more for the first goal, that he should have been closer to Tadditch, but if he was any closer to him, they would have to have a civil servant, and he was absolutely brilliant under there, he was so composed, and his pass was fantastic. Yeah. You know what I mean, you're really nitpicking, if you're saying things I did about him, I thought he was brilliant under there, and Mankio as well, you know, he put in the shift here, you can see that there is a player in him. Yeah, I heard a few people talking about distribution from Lovren, maybe you might have taken this, but I want you to also look at the guy on the other side, and introduce the tapi, Glenn Johnson for us as well if you would, and bear in mind, fella, you've already told us you haven't allowed us, so here we go. Don't worry, I'm sure there's plenty of other words I can use, but starting with Lovren, what do you make of his distribution passing up? I heard a criticise that I thought about a few people in the interim. Yeah, to be honest, I usually don't want to be the one to come up with the unpopular opinion, but then again, you know, whenever it's more opinion popular, so I was actually a very hard critic of Lovren, and I actually didn't want him in the first place, to be honest. I wasn't impressed with Southampton in general last season, let alone any of the individual players, but after he came, you know, I started to decide the focus on the positives and again, we found his debut with Dorm and extremely promising. On the day now, I would have said Scarra, it was actually the better, one of the two. I thought that, well, Scarra obviously doesn't pass as well, let's play the C, but I thought Scarra came in for every while that came near him with more enthusiasm, and whilst Lovren's passing him, I've got nothing but rank and ten for stats, to be honest, but he did complete a great deal of his passing, but I also found that despite the fact that, you know, when a lot of them were finding a teammate, I kept seeing, like, on at least three occasions, he found a teammate at a point where they would have actually been in trouble, he sort of passed him into danger, and I was a little bit critical of that, and some of his clearances were a little bizarre as well. It was one in particular, I think, where him and me, they were shouting at each other over and afterwards, like he declared it on his flank right out to the opposite flank, passed my key over for a throw, like, I was a bit flabbergasted as to what he was doing, but overall, I thought he enjoyed Rada promising debut, despite the fact he was pretty much sold by Taddis for that goal. Yeah, speaking of a man who certainly didn't cover himself with Glory in terms of stats and hasn't done for quite a while, what did you think of Glenn Johnson's performance on the day? Was it a step up from the most recent bad ones or down? I don't know, Glenn seems to be in some sort of competition when himself to see if he can actually play even shitter than the last game. Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure what he's at, but to be honest, Lucas and himself competed to see, you know, it could be the bigger part of the shot on the day, but Johnson, I don't know what it is about him. It's not even that he's bad. It's the fact that he doesn't seem to care anymore. I think, you know, his standard run of play now seems to be just knocking at 20 yards down the line, like, miscontrolling it, getting dispossessed and then jogging back in response. It's so frustrating to look at. You've seen him jog back? Yeah, you know, we just get high notes packages, Chris, you know, that's... You don't say the afterwards though, but generally he's not on camera, so it's a good show that he hasn't been jogging back. Yeah, no, I found Johnson to be one of at least three players complicit in the equalizer. I thought that, now, Lawverin actually does, too, in his defense, does actually have to go on meat, tied to sport, and fortunately, if you come out there, you get sold, you get sold. Yeah. But then there was also Lucas, who completely just was clueless to client's presence, and I also thought that when the bar guy played wide right at the goal, I think if Glenn Johnson actually makes any kind of effort at all to step across him, he could prevent that shot. Yeah. So, to be honest, man, this performance isn't absolutely zero. Awful. Phil, I'm gonna offer you the steaming plate of poo, and feel free to just push it away and talk about Gerald on the midfield, if you'd rather. No, I'll address the elephant in the room, because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and I'll be as liberal as I can. Come back to us, back to us, Phil. The thing that you find, you know, you always think of Glenn, when you think of Glenn Johnson, you remember his fours couple of years at the Globe, where he was an exceptional fullback, right? And then it's very hard to marry those couple of years with what we've witnessed over the last two years. And just does, even though he's gotten a bit older, it doesn't seem to make, make any sense that you can have such a drop off in form. Now, on Sunday, like, again, he, he just did mad things, just pure mad things. And that's like, it doesn't make any sense. Even with the goal, yeah, he, he, he's culpable for, I know that somebody, he, he was playing them all on side as well for the one that, that Minule saves, that he's about five yards behind the rest. I'm like, loving us to, is getting the, to the fence up, even scare those reactant and coming up with him. Mike, he was in the line. And if you look, he's actually three yards behind the rest of them. When the ball does come off the post, he misses the initial header, which allows long to get the header away on the actual goal. Now, it was only for a long, poor finishing on that instance, that, you know, that they didn't score. I've seen him praised for his intervention there. And, and, and, and fairness, if you look at it, if you look at it briefly, you can say, Jesus, he did well to put, put, put long on it, right? But if you actually watch the whole instant as it, as it emerges, he misses the simple header. He shows pressure as a column. He brushes him away. Yeah. Yeah. But the, the other thing, the other thing that, and I think it's, it's interesting because my Keo started off at 10, 15 minutes where he was trying to find his way into the game and Bertrand and Tadditch really looked to expose him. But in fairness to the kid, he actually grew into the game as it went on. And by the end, by the time we got around to the second half, Southampton had focused on attacking down Erroy Frank, where Johnson was, as opposed to focusing on Mount Keo's. And most of the chances were common where, you know, they were looking for the pockets that Lucas and Johnson were leaving or, or, or not, not, not, not sort of defend them correctly and looking to exploit us. And, you know, that, you know, it's, it's a bit of cause and effect because, because they look to do that, then those players get put under a bigger microscope. And because they get put under a bigger microscope, if they don't step up to the place, they look worse than they should necessarily look worse than, and, you know, take it, the, the, I'm sure we'll discuss the decision in terms of the start 11 and, and, and even looking at the preview of, of next week, which you've got to ask yourself a question. If a guy is so far out of form, at what point does become untenable in the team? And I think we've, we've reached that point, a, a good bit at this stage and, and, and hopefully the sign in the Moreno corrects that instance. And I'm not, I don't want to get into, into a, a personal thing or a long diatribe about how crappy was on the day, but it's just that there is questions there that he needs to look at himself. And, and we said two or three games into the preseason friendly. He doesn't even look interested at this stage. And I thought, you know, it's preseason friendly, players can look disinterested, but a league match opening day of the season, there's, there's no way a player should look disinterested it for the four, for those 90 minutes. Sorry, sorry. There you go. I just wanted to jump in there now. We're just, I mean, it'd be taking a point after the game and they're gone there. Some people were even starting to say that Tadditch was actually getting the better of Manquay. I completely disagreed with that. I really thought he hadn't blocked off and well-marked and I also made a very key point of saying that the goal stems from Tadditch shifting into the center and targeting the Roy Flank. The goal comes from the Roy Flank. That Tadditch only ever started to get any joy after he actually left away from Manquay. And I think if you're going to sum up Johnson's form in a sentence, I think it speaks absolutely volumes that the winger actually managed to realise that this, a 90-year-old fallback was actually how, was, was less difficult to target than an experienced 30-year-old. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous. Good boy. Yeah. Can we do a try? Yep. Marley, please do. Yeah. Yeah. It's just the critique on the whole Johnson Point. Like, I'm honest. I had to go back to my Sky Plus box to make sure that I watched the same game as everybody else, because I watched how Johnson did our right. Did he play a blinder? No, certainly not. But there was a call to say that he made one title inside the box. It's a lie. And he was very warped. Yeah. It was all kind. And I have to say, I thought that was just as good as the making less safe, because that that was goal-bound. That was a fantastic title. I looked around to the young lad who watched the game and said, "Oh, my dad, I was lovely." He said, "Johnson is a good no way." And OK, I know what Phil was saying about the header against Lang, that he completely missed it. But he still put Lang off, but Lang, he didn't have a free header, but he means Johnson was still there to put him off. If you missed the header, the next thing you should be doing is putting the player off, and that's what he did. But he didn't even know he was putting him off, Marley. That's the thing. It was by accident, as opposed to by choice. I don't know. I felt like as soon as he missed the header, because he was watching the slowboy, his head torn to see who was behind him, and he saw Lang was there and kind of edged him towards him and put him off. So I think they were certainly doing a purpose. He didn't have a bad game. I genuinely don't think he did. He didn't have a bad end result, said. No, he didn't have a bad game. Well, Marley, this is interesting. As someone who's put in the case for the defense there, is it inevitable that he's going to start again the next match? If Marley comes in and Marley shows only for him, Phil's already saying that maybe that means that we're looking at our two new young fellas on the flanks and would plan again to step in. Is that going to happen? What do you think is Johnson going to be a starter? He seems to be under Brandon, isn't he? Well, it's a good question. I looked to his and I talked to him and said, "Well, Moreno isn't that a club that long, so will Brendan stick him straight in at left back?" And I thought, "No." But I haven't said it. He did it with Manquio and Lovered, so there's no reason why he won't do it with Moreno to put him in as at left back. So then the big question is, who goes right back? Will he stick with Manquio or will stick with Glenn Johnson? Or the next game? It's a good city. It's a big game for a young lad like Manquio hasn't played a lot of games even last season to come in and face that. So it wouldn't shock me if he started with Johnson next week right back and Moreno on the left. And do you know what, I think he deserves a shot at it at very least. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. That's interesting. Chris, to move on, it moves slightly up the field a little bit and the partnership to cause so much, I suppose, morning and on the day and afterwards was the renewal of the Jared and Lucas sort of partnership there in the middle with Henderson ahead of them. There's been lots of talk about that in the past and there's been lots of, I suppose, almost nasty stuff about Luke Slavin, his contribution of late as well without necessarily veering in towards that sort of angle, is that even vaguely tenable going forward? Can you see Lucas starting again if there are options, for example? No. No, not really. For me, that experiment has been going on for five years now and it hasn't worked more than a handful of times. They just cannot work together on the field. I mean, Lucas is better and I actually am a fan of Lucas, but Lucas is a good defensive good fielder when he's on his own. When he's got to actually think about, "Am I going here or is Jared?" That sort of split second of trying to think, "What am I doing?" Generally, the attacker gets away and that's why he doesn't work for me and Jared, when he's given his own space, he can spray the ball around a bit better. I was really surprised that we went with the two deep-line midfielders against Dortmund and I was even more surprised that we continued it in this game, to be honest, because I thought probably we'd start the season with the Diamond again and I don't really know why we didn't. Given that we spoke earlier on about Glenn Johnson, how he's likely to start, he seems to be under Brandon. Jared also and probably rightly should, we'll start more games than he does and he'll start every game that he's fit to play. If we take it as a given, he's there, isn't it fair to say that he works better as a one there behind two, rather than as part of a two, wouldn't man ahead or even in the Diamond? Oh yeah, definitely. You know where you stand when it's just you doing the job. You've got no one to trust in, you just have to if the ball's over there, you have to fucking go for it. Yeah. There's no like, "Oh, it is 10." Do you know what I mean? I'll just sit off over there and wait for whatever happens. You've got to go for it, but I don't see Jared as a defensive midfielder in the conventional sense anyway. I see him on the field as a deep line playmaker. I don't think he's there to bust like Mascarano and break up attacks. You know, I think that's what the Jordan Endersons, the Catineos and the Reheem Stirlings do fair up the pitch. Yeah. And if their pressing doesn't work, then he has to come into it, but he's not the destroyer in the same way a Michael Ailey is, and he's never going to be that again. Yeah. Yeah, and shouldn't be, I guess, Phil, do you want to talk about that? Look, the Lucas thing, as has been said, has been done to death. You don't need to go into it much. The axis doesn't work between the two of them, right? And I was trying to think what the logic in playing it was. And the only way, the only thing I could come back to is what Chris said, Lucas, for me, has forty-five minutes in his legs. And if you watch the fours, forty-five minutes of that game again, Lucas isn't sitting beside Jared in a two. He's pushed up into the midfield and Henderson and himself and Coutinho were almost like a tree in front of Jared, pressing the Southampton team. And we were much better at that stage, and that's when we scored our goal in all. And Southampton weren't getting the joy as they did between, say, forty-five and sixty-five minutes. And his legs seem to go at the forty-minute mark. You can actually physically see it, because his position on the pitch starts to drop back and drop back. And it also drops, it also forced our defence back, because our defence were actually quite high up until that point, and they started drifting back down towards their own box. Now, what that has done is it's attracted Southampton onto the team, and that's when they started getting joy out of us. Now, it's a fair point that if you want to accommodate Lucas in the team, it's either Lucas or Gerard. You can't play the two, as has been well said. And if you look at our running towards the back end of last year, it's when we played Gerard as the pivot there, and then we played two players with legs, be a Henderson, be a Coutinho around him, right? And if every Chan wasn't fair enough, and going back to the Dortmund game, people said that the Chan may have picked up a small knock or whatever, but what Chan is able to do, and we were able to revert to that two in a defensive sense, but when we broke with the ball, he has so much energy like Henderson, that he was straight away able to push into the midfield with Henderson, and they became a two in front of Gerard, so it prevented the other teams being able to get on top of us, and allowed us to stay much higher when we played against Dortmund. And in fact, most people were complaining that we looked a bit susceptible to the ball over the top. Now, there wasn't a ball over the top against Southampton this time, because what happened was, as soon as Lucas dropped, because it was earlier in the game, and he sat in beside Gerard, they had to go wide and they had to go or play through the centre, and that's what they started to do, as his legs really gave out, which was around, as soon as the second half kicked off, the chap couldn't run. He couldn't actually physically get around the pitch at that stage, and you could see it at about the, just before the days scored in the 55th minute, from about the 48th to the goal itself, he can't get across the pitch, he started giving away simple passes, he played in the lead up to the goal, he gave away the ball twice as it was, and in a way I feel a bit sorry from, because the way we play just doesn't suit Lucas Lava and his physical abilities anymore, and a lot of that can be down to the entry, and a lot of that would be way late so much if he was playing in a team that didn't play with such a quick pass and tempo that we play in, so it's been well taught that a move will suit him, it probably will, and he'll probably look like a different player if he goes somewhere else. And to be fair, he'd also look a lot better, as you said, he was dropping in, instead of Jared, but when you put the two guys together, he'd just competition for space. Like, people have been commenting that Jared didn't have a particularly good game, you know, I think Jared went looking for space, when as soon as Lucas dropped into the space that he was naturally occupying for the last six, seven, eight months, he starts going looking for space on the actual pitch, and often he appears up in the right full position or the left full position, because naturally he's been dropping in between the two centre backs, and Lucas was there instead, and the gap between what was our defence, and what should have been our midfield, to Henderson, Coutinho, Sterling and all, becomes much bigger for about 20, 24 minutes in the actual game, and that's, you know, it just doesn't work as a tandem, we know it doesn't work as a tandem, I think on the day, maybe Brendan would have been better served to play Henderson and Coutinho, with Jared at the base of his, if there was question marks around Alan or Chan's fitness in his own mind, as opposed to putting Lucas in to be so adjourned, we may have got more because you could have then potentially started the live, or just done something different, or even started in Lambert with storage up front. It's even more of an issue, isn't it, when Coutinho was being smothered up the top of the field in that system, Lee, when Jo Allen came on, I think it's fair to say that he showed a lot of loudness, now he's not everybody's cup of tea, but for me, he looks a really good footballer and a fella who's happy to look for the ball and be on the ball and have the energy to do something with it. Did he make, did you feel he made a real difference when he came on, and for you, is he the starter if Chan isn't fit in the next game? Yeah, to be honest now, that isn't the first time that Alan's actually come off the bench and actually changed the game for the better, I remember sure I was actually, I was at the home game against Swansea back in, I don't know, March or February, yeah, Alan's inclusion absolutely changed that game, you know, it's just his energy, his energy as opposed to Luke, the level of that he has in his lungs, the level that he has in his legs, it was completely different as well. I'll be it now, the fact that it was a good, like about 60 odd minutes into the game and he was way fresher, it might have, what have impacted it somewhat, but Alan's always actually demonstrated a great level of energy and diligence, like I think his inclusion actually, it signaled an absolute seed change in the actual flow of the game. Well, tell me, you hear a definitive statement like that from Phil, and he's not the only amount of setup where you can play those two together, right, many people have said that. Now, if that's the case, what the hell is Brandon thinking, what is the thinking that, like this is a very intelligent football man, what's there, is it going back to the caution that the two lads on the line mentioned earlier on, what's the driving force behind that decision do you think? To be honest, man, that's something that, to this day, like ever since the game actually was played has continued to rack my brain and I'm afraid we don't actually have a good answer for it, there was a few people theorizing on Twitter, you know, and the likes, that it was a sharp win, nothing. If it was said, if this was like as many people theorize a sharp win up performance, then it was an absolutely unmitigated disaster. Yeah. And, you know, I don't really see, like Roger Cease, these guys, week in, week out in training, like he's been Lucas Labor's manager for two years now, you know, it should be conclusive to him right now, instead of, we can all see, like, just from watching the games themselves, that this access does not work then, I don't see how he thought it would have, especially against the heavy duty to, or who were actually, who showed Roger's exactly what, like a midfield to access, was supposed to play, like, they completely smoaked in, you know, they, ah, Charlotte and Maniamo are fantastically. Yeah. I think the time is long gone where people are, like, just being deliberately nasty. I mean, it's the rational people are saying that, you know, as well about, about that setup. Molly, talk to me about the high point of the, of the, the whole midfield setup, which was Jordan Henderson, it was bloody immense, to be fair, and not just that super pass that he played through, but just the level of energy is unbelievable, and some really interesting stuff come out today about how he played through a lot of personal stuff as well, and just, the guys got tremendous character, doesn't he? I think he was absolutely fantastic in the day, and that, that, that, that assist world, that was really what something else, like, when I saw it and read, I was suspecting to be continued and just play that ball, when I saw, I was here in Henderson, and how he, he read those two titles and the way he looked up, and with his left pick as well, absolutely fantastic. But it's, it's, it's something we've come to, to respect from, from, from, from last season. Yeah. I remember, you know, a part of it, we did last season, and I said that, ah, I believe the Henderson was probably the best English midfielder in a fellowship, and, you know, I, I definitely will stick him by that. He is absolutely fantastic, and he's brought more to his game. He's always had that, that great engine, where he'd go for 90 minutes, but you can see now that he, he seems to put on a bit of muscle, since, to pre-season, he came back, you can see his confidence has grown, he's a kind of guy that, he knows that he's no part of the team, where in previous regimes, he probably didn't feel that way, but he certainly feels that now, and I've also noticed he's on some free kick juries at times, so Roger's given him that as well. So, absolutely fantastic. We don't, we're just back to locus stuff, if we don't mind, because I have to get off my chest. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. I just, I got a message on Saturday night, to say that, ah, locus was starting, and I tweeted it out, and I got, one mentions that were exploring on locus, are you drunk, are you one droves? What's the story there? And I fully expected the following day to get out of the hammer, because I said to myself, there's no way this guy is starting, you mean, the guy you told me was supposed to be on a windup. There's no way locus is starting. And when the team was announced, I remember we were chatting before, and I asked, I said, look, what, what could be the logical explanation that locus is starting? And I think the only thing we actually came up with is that you must have some newly picked son, Blaine and Roger was, that was the only thing we could come up with, but I talked out of the way, and I said, well, that is very possible, that he has that, which is just a big taste. So, I was thinking, well, Ken had a bit of a knock, so let's just say that rules him out. And then I suggested a straight choice between Alan and locus, and then I said, maybe Roger has had looked at that sort of intimate feel, and so when I am in Ireland, and they are absolutely units to really are. And let's be honest, Joellen, he's fantastic, a lot of things, he's a great passer, great movement, but strength is not one of his strong points. He is a slight lad, and he does get bullied after Bali times, and I think maybe he put locus in for that reason, just put a bit of extra strength into that midfield. No, it didn't work out, it didn't work out that way, and I can't see that experiment be carried on into the future. But I think that's the only reason that maybe Roger tried that. Yeah, Chris, haven't seen Joellen Henderson on the day, was he, is he the kind of guy that's suggesting himself as a future captain in the club for you? Oh, definitely, I mean, you know, if you don't mind, I'd like to go back to that assist, first of all, because I literally nearly came in me pants like... Yeah. I mean, seriously, that ball went through and I was very close to beating one off. That'll be interesting for the stewards. Well, yeah, you know what, I should probably mention the lad in front of you. So I was joking around that I could probably could have got Lambert here. Oh, yeah, there's something very ricky. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, he's a future captain, definitely, I mean, he's done it at under 21 level at for England, as new already. Even on the 21st sign, basically, you know, he was playing wide right when he was getting brought on by that glacier, remembering coming on to the picture and really being vocal when he came on. And that to me, back then, said what type of a player and what type of a person he is, because he was really not liked by the fans and he wasn't getting many games yet he still felt himself, he still felt big enough to come on to the pitch and be like, you know, what lads, we need to do this, we need to do that and he's always had that leadership, those leadership skills and now this is, I think this is going to be his breakout year. So I went out of bail, did it a couple of years ago, where he just seemed to step up and then he was like, oh, I'm faster than you, and I'm stronger than you, and I'm better than you. Like a realisation. Yeah. Yeah. And it's in his head and I think that this is going to be Jordan Anderson, he's literally going to be running one day and be like, huh, these are all shit and I'm fast and then we'll see where your hand is going to get into the career, but I think his roof is really bloody high. Yeah, that's exciting. I see the thing, there's a higher ceiling there. Go ahead. Must be rubbing off the back of his head because there's a strange, there was a real knee going on the back of his head at the moment. I saw you saying that during the game, I don't think that's, I think that was just a light trick, mate. I don't know. I'd be keeping it like, but then again, Sudan had one of them and if he turns out as good as Sudan, I'd be happy. Oh, that's okay. Yeah. That's a dance level. I'll have to have it. Actually speaking of haircuts, Chris, our walking little, dino-armed haircut, Raheem Sterling, pretty much the most influential attacker on the field and looking like a guy who's going to be able to do it week to week to week, which is really encouraging, isn't it? Reheem Stalen's just unbelievable, like he's got the potential to be, and I've been slated for saying this, but I think he's got the potential to be the best player in the world, you know, whether he actually gets to that level or not, I don't know, but I think the potential's definitely there. I see a lot of similarities and it's very early on to draw it, but I wanted to hear you on, when he used to play for Monaco, went over to a game against FCSO, where he beat them for one, and his finishing was absolutely garbage. But then when he signed for Juventus, he got a little bit better, and when he came to Arsenal, he just looked like a natural finisher, and I think Sterling's on the same sort of path. When he came into the side, he sort of thought, "Oh, his finishing's not really good. He's got pace, he's struggling to get bass players now once they've got over the speed thing." And ever since, he started to look like a natural finisher, it was that goal in pre-season against Man City, they got this allowed, you know, he didn't think about that. He just did that, and that's scary because that was a worthy. And the goal against City last year, you know, the very key goal that he got where he just basically put them on the arse, and even then the one at the weekend, it's just, it's clinical, isn't it? It's very, very, very clinical. It's sexual football, and it is because, you know, he comes onto the ball and you're expecting them to bury it or something like that, and the nonchalance just to roll a pass faster. Faster is waiting for him to do something, and he's already got that half a second ahead of faster than he goes. I don't even, he built this. I have this fella on his arse, and he just rolls it. Faster is waiting for a shot, and it looks like he's shaped with something, and he basically rolls the ball, and there wasn't even pacing in the ball that goes past him, it was just like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." It was a peak roller. It was, it was, and you know what, he reminds me, he just looks like someone that's learned so much of Suarez. You know, I talked back, do you remember the finish against Newcastle, the one that came over the top, and he took it down, and he just walked it into the net, right? And he had such composure to finish that far. Sterling wasn't even, last year was Sterling, he would have taught a couple of times, and you know, there was a couple of times he went through, and he didn't score, or he'd hit the goalkeeper, or something like that, there wasn't even a flicker of emotion in the way he killed that. He was a down-call killer in terms of a finish, and I'm just, I get really excited now, I taught myself when Suarez went to it, "Who's going to get me Daleksoid this season?" And watching Sterling through pre-season, watching him now, and he's getting me Daleksoid. Like, you're just now the teams, I said to you, I mean, we've written as well, you know, who is going to give that fear factor, the Suarez fear factor into teams, and when you look at Sterling play at that level, it's like Jesus, not, there isn't a single defense that wants to face him, because he drifts out wide, and when he comes at your pace, he's now to control on the ball at pace, it's not bouncing off his knees or whatever, he's picking the ball up at pace and then going, and now it's starting to show the element of finish. I don't, I think, and someone can correct me for drum, but I think he might have something like six goals or four goals in his last six games, his last six league games, and that's phenomenal. Now we're looking at somebody who's bringing, you know, repetition into the composure and the brilliance in his finish. That's fright. Well, I was talking about the idea of driving for the byline and just knowing that you're going to get there and still at high pace, have the control to cut it back, whatever. Yeah. Storage does that too. And speaking of national and finishes late, that is that was some sexual football left finished by Danny Sturge for a lad who maybe didn't have the most prominent matches. Well, don't know. Actually, I thought he barely nicked the thing. Like, when Sterling's header came in, I was like, did he even get a fucking touch on it? Like, it turns out he did. Like, it was actually just turned his body just enough to direct it into the bottom corner. It was really good actually. Really deftly. Yeah. Yeah. Like, as far as you're all talking about Sterling now, like, you know, I know Chris Ains getting slightly for the best in the world thing now, but without going quite that far now, I keep thinking now, like, if that kid keeps his head down and concentrates, then he continues out his current going, ready development, you know, his, he decides where the ceiling is. But Raheem Sterling will decide where the ceiling is, you know, like, and that's the fact that he's playing up, you know, such a high level, constantly starting for a champion, you know, the nail champion. He's playing club at the age of 19, like, it's a fucking phenomenal, you know, and, like, as well, I'll drop back to Henderson as well on that one, because, to be honest, like, before, even just the end of last year, it was his biggest critic, and I was like, I'd actually, I'd gotten very frustrated, you know, I'd fucking, I'd given him a lot of stick for just being a bag of energy and very little else on top of it now, but game after game, he continued to add more strings to his ball, and then that, that culminated basically in that fucking assistant the other day. That was fantastic. But he's shown that, like, you look at the tool, and there's a partnership, and you start to see blossom partnerships across the pitch, as well, like, Sterling has gone to storage, I think, the second most out of Suarez for assist for gold's last year, there's something there between them. You know, even, even storage is gold, Sterling puts it back into a spot where storage is, okay, he wins the header. I literally shit. Like, imagine it wins the header on the pitch, and there's, like, there's joints all around him, and that's how time to back for. And, you know, and it's just in the right spot, and the torch is essential, because if it doesn't, Foster picks an easy header up off the ground. What he does, the redirection just takes it too far away from Foster from to be able to react again, and, you know, the excitement there, while a lot of things weren't right, you can see where a lot of things are going to move to, and how things are going to be much more fluid, and how things are going to be much better, again, it's something that we're going to have to, sort of, keep on the wraps, as well, at base, because we, Roger has since he's come in, the team's been slow up until Christmas, and it's just the case of getting points on the board-ups of Christmas, because I've no doubt we'll fly after Christmas as we have done in every season, and he was the same when he was at Swansea as a manager, as well. So, it's really just the case of grabbing as many points as we possibly can, until we get to Christmas, because we know that the team will push on again the second half of the season comes on. Yeah, Moly, I love Danny Starr said that I'm not having Razr as a nickname for Stunning, but I do love to go, and to be fair, 36 goals and 50, we've all heard the stat, and we all know that you've got to go back to some chap in the 19th century before you can equal that. It's remarkable stuff. I'm so blatant. Well, I was there for a step here. I was there for a step here. It's a good lad. Great attitude. Game, game, lad. Um, Charles, Charlie, Charles. The turd. But, anyway, I love a bit more youth. You've done this later. Montgomery, Bourne's on the mic. Moly. Moly, eh, complete, that was me trying to talk now, thanks to this fucker. Yeah, I was talking with Danny Starr, listen, I know it's the whole if we can keep him fitting, but irrespective of whether we can keep him fair enough, this guy is just going to score goals and goals for us, isn't it? We're looking at a guy who deserves to be, getting a lot more acknowledgement than he does. Well, when I saw that stat over the weekend, as you said, everyone saw, I didn't realise he scored so much, I really, obviously, I know he scored a lot of goals, but didn't realise he's percentage was actually that high. And what impressed me most about him against Southampton is, yes, he didn't have the best of games. You know, in previous, maybe go back to last season, if he wasn't having a great game, he wasn't scoring. So, simply like, you know, he just wasn't, but he didn't have a great game against Southampton and he still put one in. He was still alert, waiting for that part to come in and bury this. So, you know, he is absolutely very impressive, and you are right, I don't think he gets enough credit from defence, like even last year, it kind of got to me a bit, that everyone, it was our boss, Suarez, even when he was banned, storage was binding goals and defence was sensing in the Suarez zone, up in a cup. And we have to realise, we have a special talent on our books here with this kid, and the guy who is probably, I would say, happy to stay at this club long term. You know, you couldn't, you could never say that about Suarez. You can say with this guy, he's been this city, he's been the Chelsea, he knows this is his last chance to be at a big club, and you can see he's putting it absolutely all into it. See, he's fast coming in one of my favourite players, instead of the storage. Yeah, I'm only talking to her about his standing with the fans, Phil, and we know that the Suarez songs, multiple, but we also know a friend of the part who's created a storage song. Yeah, full-band raiser, we've thrown it out a few times, we'll have to stay at the part as well. It's a lovely thing, and he goes full-scouse during it. He goes full-scouse during it, even though he is from the heart of the dog, I will say one thing from, it does get the bounce back in, and that is important, I think, if storage gets a good song going from, then we'll love him just as much as any other player, I think the song is essential. It's like the Maxi Rodriguez song as well, something really good, we need something nice and original and something new, something that makes us bounce. I'm having a raise, I think it's great. But can I just say, on storage, I think a key torn point in the game is the introduction of Lambert for storage, because up until then, storage was effectively facing the two centre halves on his own, and they were able to marshal him an awful lot during the game. If the ball was coming in, he was able to get crowded out with space, he wasn't able to get torn, and he wasn't able to get shots away. As soon as Lambert comes in, we've said it, we don't know how he's going to fit into the side or whatever, and Chris, I saw the show as well, the show with Jay and Jack and Paul, and you mentioned it yourselves, Lambert was so effective in that goal for not doing much, apart from taking up one of the defenders there, and the pressure on the defender for the initial header, it's a poor header that comes out to Sterling that allows him to put it back in, and they're so deep in their own box, it means storage isn't actually off so Lambert needs a bit, a pat on the back for getting on and making a difference, and I think what it also showed is that storage, when he has another forward in tandem with him, be it either Sterling playing up alongside him, or whatever, that just can occupy the two centre halves to give him those extra couple of yards, the extra half a second of space, he'll score a goal, he might struggle a wee bit if we leave him isolated in setting up, say a 4-2-3-1 and such, he needs players in around him to create that little bit of space that he can do with a little bit of magic when that comes off. Chris, that's fair enough to say, it was that obvious to see live, I know. I think that's spot on, so be honest, I think it's Lambert did come on, and credit to Rogers because there's not many times last season where he made two substitutions and really did change the game, it's not often that he's done it, but I think Lambert's not going to be a direct replacement for Daniel Storage, and I think that's pretty stupid for anyone to think that either, Lambert's going to be playing either when people sit back really, really deep because he's actually not really a target man as such, but also be like check us with a plant beige, you know what I mean, it was pretty good at itself, but the way that Lambert did get onto a defender, and as you said, he just created that half a second of the space and that little bit of a thousand of defenders, man, and Storage can take advantage of that, but before that, let's not forget that if Storage is central through our first goal, Raheem Sterling doesn't get that space, so when he does play up top, a lot of his works done in Dragon Defender's Outer position, and that's what's important with the way that we're going to attack if we do play one up top is that it's got to be Sterling, Coutinho, and maybe the learner or Mark Vich running into that space. It's funny to watch him on the day, even though he is a small amount of time in the field, he does look quite labour in his movements sometimes, but even if he only just focused on that lovely little cheeky handball and the lead up to the goal, you've got to give the kick credit, but talk to me about Phil Coutinho on the day. You talk about Plan B, obviously Plan A is very much centered around Phil Coutinho getting on the ball and being creative, it didn't happen for him at the weekend, and interesting to see that the introduction, that he had to go off for things to change slightly in terms of the setup, do you think this is likely to be a feature of the season where against certain setups, it doesn't work for Coutinho? I think so, yeah, I think you can see the way that Southampton played with a high defensive line, didn't he, and deep line midfielders that they did a job on Coutinho to be honest with them, and they played imperfectly in my eyes. You know, I've sat on it, I show that Rodgers has put him under a little bit of pressure by saying that he's the brain to the operation, because with Suarez going, he took up two, three defenders sometimes, where are those defenders going to be looking now? Well, Brendan Rodgers just said Coutinho was the brain, so I was just, well, I came out the game, you know what I mean, and it's going to take him a couple of months to get used to that pressure. I think he's got quicker enough feet and he's quicker off of mind to get through it and make himself an influence on the game, but it's going to take a little bit of time, you know, it's going to be a completely different game, he's not, you know, during pre-season you only have to take on one person's feet are so quick that he can do that, can he do it against two people in a Premier League match, we'll see over the next couple of months. Yeah, that's fair enough, Lee, do you think that's the setup we're going to see, Phil Coutinho struggling maybe in certain setups? Yeah, it'll depend that we'll look at, especially against two teams that played two deep, especially the way Southampton did, but I didn't think it was even so much of a case that Coutinho was really low, you know, bad on the day, it was mostly that Coombe and did his homework, he set those pair of dogs on him and they just snatched the legs off, you know, I think very early on within about within about six, seven minutes into the game. When yeah, I'm a little like nearly after the whistle, they gone and actually look completely thundered thrill. I'm like, and you look at the soils and when yeah, I'm also getting tackled by fucking vending machine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he was taken to the ground and then the only problem now what the if I had any criticism of continue, it wasn't even the fact that he wasn't really able to get onto it was just the city seemed to, he seemed to sort of trade into himself after he realized that he was getting the rough treatment after money. He just thought he didn't really, he didn't show himself enough. He thought that I would think now if a player is actually getting kicked around a little bit, it would actually fall in him up a little bit to try and get really to actually just start forcing the issue a little more in himself. But he seemed a bit timid after that point. You know, it seemed like he'd kind of like he'd been, he'd been kicked and then just went away to look as well. And it's like to be fair, he has shown a lot of fight, hasn't he? Again, and strength in developing. He has, he has and especially in like a last year against city at home as well. Like the fact that he had no problem with crashing into yeah, that's all right. Time and time again. Like this, this time I'm afraid it was just wasn't one of those days. One of those days, yeah. Molly, just to finish this out there on Coutinho, do you picture that same idea that he might be a sort of guy that's going to come in certain occasions or for you does he start nearly every game? But I think really that probably Lana was the guy in Brendan's head that would be starting every game. And Coutinho to come on, push for Lana during Pre-C's course was unlucky there to pick up the injuries. And let's try to, Coutinho looked absolutely fantastic to him, Pre-C's and he looked like an absolute magician. And I think he's actually given Brendan something to think about now. Who dutchly? Who is the starter? Will it be the Lana, or Coutinho? Like what over the weekend against Southampton? You're right, he didn't have the best of games, but I think credit has to go to Southampton there. Like you know what, they have lost. Was it five years or five or six? Top players over the summer. They don't like a team who didn't lose anyone. They really weren't a tournament field. They were Schnurling when he had been a team of our pros. It was absolutely fantastic. Coutinho didn't get a look in. But either did Gerard and Lucas was like the last poppy on that pitch towards their midfield. But every team was actually going to play that way against him. Because if they put two or three on Coutinho, which Southampton did, that's going to free of space for people like Sterling and Storage and Mark, which really comes back into the squad. So I wouldn't be too worried about it, but it would be interesting what happens when Lana comes back from injury for what she gets to not end that side. That's one of those nice headaches I think isn't it? Let's move it along down and have a look at the next fixture coming up for Liverpool, which is Manchester City, nice easy game to continue this season on a Monday night. I suppose we could start maybe by having a look at the opposition. A bit of a reflection on cities went over the weekend. If people saw what did we see that was particularly significant? Was it terrifying? Was it reassuring? Phil, could you start the ball rolling here? Similar to us, won the game, weren't particularly impressive. Looked very good up top, had issues in the defence in midfield, could have drew the game with Newcastle, that Newcastle had a couple of good chances. They were strong defending the chances that came up against him and company looks like he's back to his imperious form, as opposed to the bit the dodgy spell he had last season. And you'd be worried if Zabala is fit for the game against us, what type of, what would he be like coming down if Glen Johnson was playing on the left back there? So, you know, they're city, but they're the same as ourselves. At this stage of the season, you're not going to find a team that's in full throttle mode at this stage. You wouldn't expect it because players are going to be coming in and out. There's going to be injuries, there's going to be bits and bobs around to start the season, which fitness arises. And you know, we don't go there with any fear. We shouldn't go there with any fear. We have, we play them in pre-season and with the right team selection going up against them, we can definitely match them. And you know, if we play with our quick counter-attack and football the way we did it last year, there is every possibility that we can get a result there. Chris, we can move on straight away if you like to who you think it's going to feature, but that's not a bad point the film makes there, but city being very similar to us in terms of their opening performance. You know, they could easily have gotten caught there in the Newcastle game. Would you be particularly nervous and maybe you could start a ball roll on what changes you might make if any. Yeah. Okay. I think, as Phil said, they didn't click going forwards. Your footage looked unbelievable in pre-season, but never quite where for him in that game. Zacho, what do you need to be honest? Because he looks like a man in form who's confident and calm in his position in that side now. And he's not looking over shoulder anymore, to be honest. The span of their team is just unbelievable. And that's what made them win the league last season, you know, from hard to company to tour, right? And then it really was based on whether agraero was fit or not. But I think they did better than us. And they did it again in the first game is that they just finished teams off. You know what I mean? They didn't need to score in the 93rd minute or whatever it was, but they don't stop. And they don't, it doesn't get nervous because they don't sit back. But as far as we go and how we approach it, I think, much as like what Molly said before, is that I've got a feeling that he'll put Glenn Johnson right back. And I'm not happy about it. But I just think that it's a bloody big game for Manquillo to come in. Do you know what I mean? Or even like, even if John fit, I can't see him coming in and making his debut at the head stadium. Yeah. I think it's probably going to be Joe Allen who comes in it. And it'll probably, it could even be the same side by Joe Allen. And I think he might even leave Moreno's debut until the game after. Yeah, it would be a big ask for him too. What I mean, he's still a young kid too, Moreno. I know he's got more experience than Manquillo. But still, it's a, as you say, it's a big step for your first match. It is. Yeah, look, you know, Moreno's not played in the league. He's not played with, he's trained with the team as me over the weekend. Yeah. But at least Manquillo's been here a couple of weeks. It would ease me about Glenn Johnson. No, man. Fucking hell. I just, I literally, I stay up at night thinking about him. Do you know what I mean? He's there. And I'm just constantly scared. He's like the boogeyman for me. Do you know what I mean? I just can't see because of the bastard. But I don't know. I think I would say Manquillo on the meritocracy that Rodgers ran last season doesn't deserve to be dropped. If there's one person that comes out for me, it's Glenn Johnson from Moreno, but I just can't see Rodgers doing that. Yeah. Fair enough, fair enough. Lee, to continue on from Chris's points there, is the most obvious change, Joe Allen, for Lucas? And would you tamper with the full back situation? Yeah, I'm afraid it would actually just, I'm, I'm afraid I'm trying to, I'm trying the way of the pros and cons of actually taking out two experienced, what is severely out of foreign players for young lads who probably boy all right, shouldn't have to make that debut, look that boy. I'm afraid I'd actually be way more nervous about the likes of Lucas or Glenn Johnson just playing the way they are and just completely stinking up the place rather than I'd be worried about a bit of a bit of an experience getting to it in my key or in Moreno. Yeah. You know, that these are afraid, like, I don't know what's your debut and all, but this is the kind of shit you're going to have to get used to when you play for Liverpool, you're going to be playing against big soids a lot and especially they're going to be playing at the Champions League. I'm afraid, Luke, you know, I'm not ready as opposed to a baptism of four years many would be. I think that especially as well if I think Joe Allen on Merritt after it, especially I think he met with a performance, the cameo performance that he had against Southampton mate, he may well have played his way into the lineup for us. Yeah. Markovich, I wouldn't bring into it either. I would definitely leave him out of it. I would think about reverting to a diamond though. Yeah. I would think about reverting to a diamond with Sterling on front there now and with, you know, a continue at the head, Jared out of the back and Henderson obviously has to start every game. And one avoid a Joe Allen or if they emulate Chan, I believe, especially because it's such a heavy human field, the city have Fernando and Fernando and Daniel are likely to be in behind with the eye to where they're going forward and I think to combat the sheer energy and the athleticism of them, we think a lot of the size of Chan as well. One is capable of getting about the way he is. I think that might be that might be key and actually stopping them. Yeah. But now I would like to see, I'd like to see my KO continue or he thought he did very, very well or he think that you know, he's not too eager to even get forward or anything. So yeah, a change of the back four and I probably bring in Joe Allen at least as well. I know he would I think nearly I don't care what how what level of experience Moreno has. There's no way he can be worse than Glenn Johnson. Yeah. Okay. That's what you'd like to do. The likely thing is the different sort of setup. What's likely Phil? I think the only change likely is that Lucas comes out for either Allen or our image and on the basis of what we're talking about. I'd probably like to see Chan in for this game when he came on against the city and I know it was a preseason friendly, but he was able to match up with the physicality when they're away. Yeah. And he gave he gave the city midfield something that he hadn't to deal with with with with any Liverpool midfield over the last two seasons because he was knocking their lads around the ball and they were like sentence of what the fuck's going on here? Like who's your man? Who's this powerhouse? Like do you know what I mean? Just because he he's he's a beast of a sentiment fielder. He's he's just you know, he's he's just powerful and fucking size and the size of him but also the speed he can move at like he who reminds me so much of a young Yaya Tory in terms of size and pace that he has and the ability to run with the ball. Like if one of the things that we all think about Yaya Tory since he's come to England is the way he's able to pick up the ball at the back of the at the back of the middle toward of the pitch and just power his way through to the final toward and create something or get a shot away and you know that to me I'm looking at a gun you know that's what M. Ray Chan brings to this team as well and effectively you've got he'll have with him you have two Jordan Henderson's two fellas who just can't be physically intimidated on the actual pitch itself and will be the legs and the power around Gerard which is what he needs as well which also frees him up to be able to spray passes and gives him the cover and the defensive cover that we need and but if Joe Allen starts I'm not going to be worried because the little fella is as toigris as hell when when put up to him it's a big game he reacts well in big games and is not afraid to go into those situations he's got a lot of you know he's got a lot of real good courage about him as in his game that goes on and I but I only see the only change possible being Lucas coming out of that team I don't think Johnson comes out of the team and I think my KO stays because he's done so well for us in the two games that he's there he's clearly built up and understand them would scare there on the right hand side where our limits and their chances that are coming down the right hand side and I don't see any reason why we take him out at this point in time similar to why Flanagan got in against Arson last year and didn't come out because he didn't do anything wrong so why would you take a guy out who hasn't done anything wrong for us and he's also pacy the one fucking thing about my KO the people of me you know a cop not is he can burn rubber when needs to be and if he's up against Colorado for silver whoever is coming down that line against him he's well able to keep up with them and that's so important to us yeah Chris given that you're a bogeyman is probably gonna start with a skull to the midfield area I just want to talk to you about that question that that Phil's been bringing up there I was going to go to the gym during the week and I saw him Ray Chan's leg muscles on just decided to have a biscuit instead because fuck it was the point for you is it is it Em Ray Chan or is it Joe Allen that they got in ahead of Lucas because probably one of them does I can see the merits of Em Ray Chan he's a as was mentioned before he's a powerhouse of him and further and I think we've needed someone like that to go toe to toe with like you tell season you're man cities in the league and but I'm a real fan of Joe Allen I think mentally he's very sunk he never gives up no matter what look at the stick that he got for messing against Devon was it last season yeah he just doesn't give up but he never hides on the pitch and he's a fucking tell him and he will just snap at people's ankles and I really like him and I like what he does with the ball and possession as well and a lot of people talk about he just recycles possessions stuff like that but towards the back end of last season and I think we saw it yesterday's on Sunday as well he does like to get forward a little bit as well and I'd be happy with Joe Allen and I think he probably deserves it and that being said Em Ray Chan's probably the future of that midfield and I think he's probably the long-term replacement for Gerard maybe a bit of a shout in that we won't be playing that the plyman fielder I think and I think it was what someone touched on before is that we'll have two players who have run us and he's box the box man and you can do a bit of both well with that in mind and let's get the ball rolling there with a few predictions how do you see that game going what will be your shout for a match for a result what would I say is the midfield no no no you're a prediction for the game of course I'll prediction yeah fucking hell I am ever the optimist so to one to Liverpool too wonderful yeah as a question I was going to say the sense so I think we've been doing predictions for like four years in our show and I've never predicted a draw or a loss so I wouldn't I'm not really very good at them good life good life we love that Molly here shows on how you think the match is going to go on if you have anything else you want to say about because I didn't get to you in the build-up yeah but I'm I'm with Phil Andes I think joining team doing is going to be Lucas the come over the side and probably more likely Joellen to go in at all personally I probably have a challenge there you know if prediction wise I'm going to go over Nillelle Nillelle okay Nillelle I'll be taking Nillellele right now I'll be an interesting one for us what Nillelle I can't remember the last time we had Nillellele draft we don't we do them don't we do them leave we'll be interested in how you call I don't really think it's like the Eddie has the Eddie had you know like it's not a fucking easy ground to win out like I don't know why who managed the last season Chelsea was that it yeah like that was it so like and I think also that more whatever prediction that I have I think that correlates directly with how the lineup goes out I think that it like you know I think you're gonna find it very hard to predict a win for us if we poke land Johnson out there you know like you're actually presenting a fracture point in the defense in the city like yeah it's like having a fucking scarecrow smoking cigars yes yes yeah that's what Glenn Johnson in that defense is like but I'm going to fucking hell uh I'll go go I don't know I can't see a draw either yeah I don't want I don't want to say a loss but oh fuck it oh well I'm sorry city are full straight at the moment there's no injuries like oh the best best I think we'll do is a draw too what's a score draw okay well I think uh we went I think Danny storage scores against the old club Phil anything else that my weekly prediction of a foreign ill win the city fucking jinx us now end up that's exactly right thank you for that that's how that's how you do christen that's how you do predictions Chris I am Lou Chware you are listening to dripper's chat with drifter so Chris get started what's your favorite non swearing swear words like he's got fudge there what what would be yours jesus um there you go what's a swear way but it's more of an insult is that all right yeah go ahead yeah I like to attack you know I like to call someone a plum it's not really very offensive but like if you say like you know I flappy your plum yeah comes across quite well I like that yeah yeah I do something something about the sign but that's brilliant molly you want to do this one as well well my favorite non swearing swear word and I have to make you probably more likely to hear it on made in Chelsea didn't you are in the streets of limerick but it's uh oopsie daisy how do you I don't know if it's a wopsie daisy show us if you could just drop your coins you're going to the shop you're like oh whoopsie daisy molly I cannot imagine you saying that I could see in the middle of a poor molly here drop your point oopsie daisy oopsie daisy jesus are in the are in the sack with ourself and you know it all in type oopsie daisy especially if Ricky Lambert's head is anywhere close to him yeah hymns asks us uh he's talking about this this wall of challenge have you seen this this crack did they do the voice book his book challenge or a challenge sounds like a bandage game or something well that's not an area of expertise in mind because i'm far too old for that shit but uh he says which NFC player past or present would you want to see doing what i just want an empty ice water over razor Rolex head person i just uh that's just a thing i'd like to do anyone else like that i think suggesting so far but can you put over there with locus i suppose but you'd have to change it up a little bit oh yeah where you'd have we maybe have put maybe towel over his face and then push your water or towel just switch it up a little bit you said riser wrote there now is like he's a pastor present you know i i don't care uh so when he said what it goes like he's i thought i was a current liberal player now what i've forgotten for my liberal players yeah i'd very much like to deal with mark Lawrence and only i'd like to replace the only switch scorpions ice scorpions over there the scorpion book just put his head into a book of the scorpions the other way around uh Chris the next one up just happens to be a serious one for you here you can you can take whatever you want is from Kieran and Kieran's asking about uh the fact that rogers hasn't really done as much uh work uh in terms of turning defenders careers around as he has with the likes of Henderson and Sterling and Catinio um he Kieran's wondering does he need defensive coaching on son yeah i can i can see why you'd say that it's a difficult one isn't it because it's it's the obvious shout but the way that we play football i don't know how many defensive coaches would like that and you know and could deal with that because basically we just leave the full air the center backs alone yeah completely unguarded so what you're gonna hire Tony Pulitzer look after two center backs yeah and the entire fucking pitch just doesn't work like that does it do you know what i mean it's it's unfortunately rogers is bringing an ethos he's not bringing a formation i think he's bringing an ethos with him yeah and that ethos doesn't really include defending and the players seems are brought into it the fans are brought into because it's been quite fun to watch i just can't see us getting the defense of coach so you think it's just a kind of an a net it's it's almost like a side effect of of the good stuff that we have is is that we have to accept that as a bad thing i do yeah i think you know you've got to get players who are good in space and who are a good at attacking the ball um and that's why i don't think scared i was going to be here forever although you know i do think he's doing well um i think love runs are front foot defender um sackos are front foot defender and i think they're probably the future and they're also good in space when someone's running after i think scared or can be left alone at times yeah and hung out to try and turn quite easily when he's in that space yeah fair enough fell tony peels defensive coach he's free only for me is a tony peels never works in football again like to say yeah come on come on in tony you'll be a defensive coach and then stick him in a cupboard in a cupboard right yeah and throw the key away yeah and then cover up the wall with concrete and burn the cap and no no leave the peak just sticking out from the concrete so we know he was there very good yeah very good i like you're like you're thinking that molly like uh like a hand-soul all the time tony molly uh next question is from Andy Davidson he's wondering for our last transfer and i probably is going to be that at this stage uh do we go for an netnet striker or a winger or a striker uh and uh you know will that necessarily change up the formation let's use that question to to talk about who you think might be likely targets for us well i think we forget about wingers or midfielders it's it's not known striker we're after that that's clearly obvious to anyone yeah and i think it's clearly obvious that falco is that guy that we're after even we just listen into a brilliant Rodgers press conference where he said look we're willing to uh to leave it late and you know last stage and if it doesn't happen that means that guy hasn't come available which basically means falco is fucked after Madrid is what he's basically saying there yeah so i i think falco is the guy we're after and you know i've already signed him on my FIFA 14 team so i think he's going to happen uh he also sent me an autograph over twitter over the weekend so yeah that one must be in the bag yeah yeah very good very good uh and you're like it Chris and molly question for you two fellas on the line there i'm wondering about the correlation between the increased soy is sorry increased price and decreased soy with chocolate bars over the last 10 years have you noticed this and how much is it upset you basically quick start with you fucking up to be honest i think it's linked to do with the increase in size of my arse and the decrease in size from the top you don't have to go any further fella if you don't want to he's leaving it there he's leaving it there i told you follow that link last question from Paul Murray we'll go around everyone on this um Paul wonders would you rather go ball or grey and he says that might be a sore subject for some of us i don't know what he means but i don't know what he means but i feel casey ball or grey oh go on fella come on come on great fuck yeah Chris ball or grey definitely great i can't grow a beard so i want to look distinguished in some place fair molly ball or grey oh Trevor i'd probably like your body i'd love to have a choice no matter but i'm actually one boss and your father's up in grey decided it's desperate well if you had a choice which one would you plumb for fella oh yeah definitely plumb for grey oh what fuck's sake lee i'm sorry man i i've actually thought about this since i was 11 and i've been cultivating the i've been cultivating the thought of a Roberto Manchini for a long time man i'm afraid i'm afraid i'm afraid so i'm afraid so i'm not really there's no real history of all this in my family so like if i start going grey i'm just going all in i'm just just dealing with it nice big floppy man of course i think i know how sad you saw it couldn't give a shit i love being bald you're actually great and bald my beard is grey so tell us what's left of your hair i don't right that's us thanks a lot okay we've finished with some admin then as always we want to mention astral park uh five and seven aside football this is the place to be so get on here to the website at astralpark.ie and book your game our own website lfcdaytrippers.com is somewhere that you should be checking on to two you'll be mostly impressed with the content and the work that's being done by the lads on there michael uh asks uh phil 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Matchday 2 and we forgot to do the admin. Hey ho. Lets Go. All in the mig, the hendo, extreme excitement in the stands, raheem, lovren/skrtel partnership, man beast emre can, poo mountain johnson and his twin peak lucas. A look ahead to Man City and the challenge that awaits, and trippers chats. Moley, Trev, Phil and guests Lee and Chris dissect everything as reasonably as possible.Big thanks to Chris Pajak from the Redmen TV for joining us - get on their freeview this week at www.theredmentv.com or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSFBSfFLVWM if you are too lazy to do that. Mentioned on the pod was the stats bomb player positional viewpoint which can be found here and well worth looking at as the movement of lucas backwards as his legs fade can be seenhttp://www.statsbomb.com/2014/08/player-positional-tracker-liverpool-v-southampton/
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