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It's day trippers I Tonight show we picked the bones out of the heart breaking loss to Chelsea around field As Liverpool singularly failed to play their football and break down Mourinho's long throwing counter attackers The title is no longer in our hands But it may end up yet in Anfield one way or the other before we go to try and alleviate the gloom We'll get stuck into your listeners questions Okay, let's have a look at Liverpool nil Chelsea to after all the build up and the bullish predictions and the tires and mind games bullshit Liverpool faced an excellent Chelsea team packed with experience that set up to draw the sting out of the team when they could I'll work to treat then on the young Yeah You caught me off guard there Give you a minute fella yeah, just start with someone else Oh Yes setting the tone they tell me something yeah there fella Yeah, I mean it worked a treat there were they were excellent I mean I think that's that's the first thing you have to say is that you know in the last week Chelsea have gone to the best team of Spain and the best team in England and and stop both of them scoring and you know While we'll go on to talk about loads of things about the game the first thing you have to do is is kind of take you out of a little bit and say that Millennial, you know pretty well. I don't think it's a tactical genius. I think it would you know all the breaks went his way I think he came I said it on last week's body came looking for a nail never half time And I think if he got in at no no half time he still would have thought that was a great result But as it goes You know we give away a sloppy goal, you know to mistake there we go and then you know the second half is completely different I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if we'd come out in a little second half or Even better if we got a really goal, what would he have done? And let's see what do you have been a tactical genius that he's being portrayed right now But you know as a star you got to say Chelsea played really well They're an excellent side during the semi-finals of the Champions League for a reason they've got a very very good manager and You know even with what seven changes from the athletic game They were they put out the more expensive side than we did and brought 80 million pounds worth a talent off the bench so all in all they played well That game went exactly how they wanted it to go. Yep, Andy would come back. You know at this stage Yeah, yeah, I know like I mean Dave's that Roy it's just like basically was never going to be a build the personnel who was going to be a build the system And so we had it spot on our week We just weren't really prepared for that eventuality where a team as gold is damn was defensively gold is damn was gonna come down field and play that way It was like it it's just impossible to really play against and the best we could already how far as You know that we weren't gonna have a little slip up And the fourth half going in the Atlanta mean the draw was always gonna do us, you know But you know marina was relying on something like that happening our set piece or a break or whatever And uh, it just just didn't go our way like we've had lots of things go away lately You know, we can't we can't give out and I mean you're looking to wear it here today or wherever all the you know media Slate and how marina you'll set up on all that but fucking absolute garbage like We didn't complain when rafu, you know went all you know win at all costs against teams you beat the best teams around in europe You know, so he's come there To play about us so it I mean he's picked the he's picked tactics. It's not it's not a master class It's just basic stuff you know what I mean and when you're that core to defend and you know, yeah I tell you so yeah for me. I thought it was it was a perfect european away performance boy team They came out the people were going on about the time wasting from two minutes in in the whole lot It wasn't essentially time wasting what they were doing was trying to make sure that we couldn't build our fast aggressive tempo That we've come out of the blocks with nearly every match and this one beaten one that we've been on And then the urethane they did was with the time wasting in bracket in quotation marks as such All they did one all they wanted to do was try get a level of frustration going in the crowd because you know It was spoiling the game. The whole thing was the idea was to dispose the game for 20 minutes We've talked like as as fans about the great ones that we had in europe in the 80s And you hear about paisley and shankley and i'll talk about how it was so important to quiet the away team The way that you know the rabbit fans and for the force 20 minutes of the game And that's what marino's team set out to do. I think it was lack of maybe I don't know the correct technical terms or whatever a lot of people I think a lot of people didn't understand that like he had salad in the first two minutes in the corner Shield in the ball. You know it was incredible And that's but that's to draw a reaction if you think of marino as a manager, right? And you're thinking of the way that team plays It's a reflection. It's a perfect reflection of him He doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks of him once he gets what he wants on the actual pitch And he he was very fortunate to get what he got yesterday But again, we're talking unquantifiable when we're saying well, how would he have gone if if we had a score early and how What would have this happened and what would that happen? We don't know they need to win more than us yesterday, right? So there's no way that they were setting out from two minutes in to play for a draw What they were trying to do was ruin our tempo and ruin the game as a spectacle to try get the try get that sort of You know the frustration that can creep into a crowd on tingstar and gone right after 20-24 minutes That in previous times an infield has happened with with the crowd itself And which has dissipated recently and even yesterday like the crowd never got under teams back even at one nil And even when teams were going against they were still right behind the team and still cheering the team on and they weren't they weren't On players backs at all. They just wanted us to win. We just wanted to win as a fan group We weren't we weren't there to you know to break somebody for doing something wrong at the time We can do it now because it's not going to affect No, but what I'm saying is it does not affect the players on the pitch because there isn't that more of a dissension that's going on We can do it now. We can debate it as much as we want, right? But we know that when we go again next week in crystal palace that the best away traveling set of fans in the team will be right behind that team because This is still this is still on this. This is still possible to happen and like it is a kick in the balls It's like things have it's been wrenched from us But if we don't play To the same levels that we've done up until now with the same belief that we've done up until now Then all that hard work that to put us into this position Will be wasted and I did not believe that either one the fans think it's going to happen or two the players are going to let this go again Yeah, it was notable wasn't it the the the positivity in the in the stadium. It was particularly notable And I was it's been a book bear mind for a few years that Players tend to get abused and players tend to get single out and boo not necessarily booed But they just people get in the back. That's not happening now. That is if anything, that's an improvement. Anyway, um They mean flow you talk to me about so many like this agenda for us did a bit of over and back between me Southern Phil where uh, Ali and off he was accused of me being negative, which is pretty fucking ironic and I I had initially said that many of the help that he makes game feels taken is that he's a very positive game very good game Certainly had a couple of excellent stops and pretty much dominated the box All be a quiet enough game for him. What was your take on? The way you look at the gold capers game at the end of it has has he stood out He's had a quiet game. He's had a good game. Like, um The last thing you want to be want to be saying a gold here But I only stick out you if he's if he's dropping balls or he's dropping clangers or he's missing space and passes or as far now If he's making decent saves or he's he's coming he's collecting or he's clearing you tend not to notice And yesterday I tended not to notice me like where other games your boss getting whipped into the box You're kind of worried coming in But we were so comfortable at the back that he hadn't really got a lot to do But he had to do he don't know well, but I felt he don't know well. I'm I thought he was quite comfortable. Oh, yes Uh, I can't really complain Did the only thing you'd not confirm he hasn't really caught himself glorious is in this is when he has the ball its feet He can't tend to be a little bit slow Uh, I think Phil is hitting this where he hasn't made his mind up before he receives it He can't he receives it and that makes his mind up when that should be already done before he receives it That's the only thing you could go and pick a follow him in a layer. So I thought he'd do some games like very strong hand for for sure Yes, a great save early on from salad from the other shot as well That was early doors and the other thing just on him because we have talked about it But I like he came for a lot of balls yesterday And he did he did the sensible things like helping him out He helped one on where instead where that caused the goal a couple of weeks ago Where he tried to punch it a different way. He just helped it on clears the danger They're not only came for he helped on as well and it takes it away. So Top maximum in your layer stay for me anyway. Yeah, um, let's look at somebody semi Positive on the day as well alongside me late and molly. I'll come to you on this because Joe Allen had another excellent performance seem to be One of the only people keeping his head and using possession well throughout the 90 minutes He was pretty unlucky with probably what was our best effort? I think over the 90 minutes which forced water into it a bit of an excellent save himself I would have brought us back into it. He's really starting to live up to the reputation that the Rogers was giving him has me Well, is he I said it was on last week. We thought that I'm not so all in Allen and potentially I'm still not so all in Allen He was busier step, but again. He just lacked a cotton age Like he two shots entirely just boardroom were easy to roll sharks around I know he said one of them was our best chance of scoring but But really that that wasn't anywhere close to going in He made no attempt to take on a pair of any stages to He bit three crosses only one of them what was successful And he made four tackles and he owned he outed us four tackles. He only won one of the tackles So corn by those stats, but he can't shoot he can't tackle he can't cross So that just leaves the passing and all right. He he's passing stats and armory very good But there's no cutting edge with these passes not they're not like their true balls right in like that They're these nice easy five 10 yard passes across and gonna aid and sometimes behind So look, I think Joanna has a future to help. I'm just not too sure what he brings to the team at the moment of a manager Well to be fair, that's fairly consistent what you've said before and Dave Thomas I think you might have a slightly different take on the Allen's performance Well, yeah, I probably couldn't disagree with him only more actually I thought that uh, I thought Allen was our best player yesterday Yeah, and a couple of things I'd say he doesn't make tackles because Chelsea didn't have the ball So, you know, we are 70% of possessions So he's not gonna make tackles and when Chelsea have the ball they have read in their center half So in their full backs or they go keep on launching it long So he's never gonna win a lot of tackles If you actually, you know, look at some of the stats, you know See some long in terms of the number of interceptions and tackles he makes or pressing in particular I think the lads on uh and field index will run last week You know, they they they gave some great stats about the pricing that Allen does He's probably him and Henderson are on par in terms of the pricing that they do within the team And you gotta remember Allen is replacing Henderson. He's not replacing Coutinho or Sterling So we're not looking for him to, you know, make killer passes or unnecessarily score goals I mean, how many shots on target is Henderson have a game? You know, he's not that type of player What he's doing is knitting the play together between Jared who's playing deep And then the front four or five there should be penetrating a scoring goals Where I think he lacks but only lacks versus Henderson Is that he doesn't make the runs beyond the the forward line So he's not making those runs into the box Um, which Henderson does which creates space and even, you know, late in the game when we're chasing games If you've got Henderson, you know that if we break out of defense He's gonna be with you. Allen doesn't quite have that engine, but I thought he would I mean, you know, maybe the center halves the side I thought he was superb yesterday. I thought he was by far our best player Yeah, I think that's very enough under you can I say something? Yeah, like I said something something similar to Molly there a few weeks back Probably a couple of months back. I'm not sure what Allen really brings to the team But just over the last few games as opposed you can see what he does bring like he's He's more versatile than Lucas So if you're allowing on a player to come in and do it with a role for you He can kind of do that sitting role. He can do the, you know left hand soil at the time and you know, he's You'll do you'll do what the manager needs them to do now as as David says there He's not going to make them runs forward. He's not comfortable in the box He's not as comfortable In the box as Henderson is even though neither of them are great in front of the goal Need them a great in front of the goal But he's he's a player you can put your trust in and He's not going to let you down like he's the he's just to say home man in the squad That's going to come in and do a job for you. Yeah, he's never going to set Andfield a light but he's certainly a decent part of the the machine that Rogers is trying to Crease, you know, it's probably fair enough as well. Isn't it when you do have him and Lucas and either side of that diamond The overlap and runs are not compete. I remember Lucas tried to do an overlap and run at one stage. Yes Someone had hit him with tranquilizer dart in the arts. He just slowed up now some people were trying to save us off So, but I don't know was it a combination of both lack of legs and that but yeah, you know, he was also he was But it's just a bit of bad communication between him and swale as if he brought him No, Alan look, Alan's never going to read it. You know Henderson was that target player last year where you were kind of looking wondering You know, what's what's this player got a bill at me? You know, I mean give give Alan a couple of years and you know, you make it go Yeah, he's perfect. He's perfect for what Rogers wants to do really. Yeah, but there is a improvement out there Don't get me wrong. And I mean, I'm not seeing in his prizes because he's yet to properly Really convince me. Mm-hmm. But um, no, I don't like to hear it. You know, I don't like to knock Alan really, you know I think for for me on the Alan thing, um, it's it's very interesting that the of the two players that were in front of Gerard He was the one that was trusted with retain and midfield retain a possession in midfield alongside Gerard Where previously we would have always expected it would be Lucas that would sit in there and become almost a second defense of midfielder when needed But it's actually Alan now that that Rogers has full faith in because I get the impression that Rogers has Possibly looked at Lucas and realized that he's not going to get back to the level that he was beforehand that we've talked about Plenty of occasions like even in terms of stamina and everything that he can bring to the team And if you look at the way the team played and and for when Lucas was on the pitch Lucas was the most Advanced of the three midfielders. He was the one that was always up with the attacks um, and In a way, that's where you you lose Henderson because if Henderson is there We know Alan can can can do that a bit better than well can do better than Lucas can at this moment times in terms of being a Auxiliary attacking midfielder and even at times because Lucas hadn't got the legs to get up and down the pitch to do that sort of You know full of vibrancy and and help out with attacks Coutinho had to feel in an awful lot in the center midfield like drop in and become the toward player in the midfield while this was going on And it almost exposed their left Almost exposed finally going a bit more down the left flank because it allowed as pilaqueta and salad double team him an awful lot In the fourth half when when because when Chelsea did every now and then decide to break out at her fence They went they went wide because they felt he could like they went at our fallbacks as such, but I just thought that that was you know What we're hamstrung in terms of squad depth as to who you're going to put in there instead because There was nobody else there you could see the one storage comes out I know we're going to get onto these various things, but you could see when storage comes on he wasn't fully fit So look at the rest of the bench. You're not going to start anyone else there at this moment in time Above the 11 that were 100 fit to go out onto the edge. Yeah, that's that's that's the point though And the isn't it the owner pins everything is to you know, we have what 13 14 players Yeah, if we if we get hit by an injury and suspension should be dead. We're screwed. Look, you remember back a few weeks here We were talking about them What are sterling players are cutinio players are what are allen players are? It's a case of rotate these three players first for the seat But like Lucas didn't even come into that picture then at that moment in time. Yeah, now Lucas has to fucking play Yeah, so that shows how I don't think it does Well, no, I don't know look you're a your feelings on Lucas are quite clear I Like for roger's he doesn't really see it the same as you and he's gonna just play as What he feels is his best 11 or his most trustworthy 11 think you play, you know, yeah If if the best player is available in the squad or all center halves, he's fucking playing them like, you know what i mean Well, slowly given that that um that um storage was even more injured and we told he was uh clearly Who started that yesterday for you if Lucas doesn't Or I would easily put order take sharing and um and I would play The same way we've played all our games what we've done is we've had Henderson We've had your ad and we've had container being the toward man in there And what we've done is we've let other teams have possession against us And when we've done that Container drops in as a toward man into the center with them And then we nip it back and we attack them quickly Like even at one stage we had as far as was dropping in as our left side Staling drop is our when we drop as a fove and we've done this against all the top teams And we let them have possession of the ball and then we hit them quickly as soon as we've made the right half And that's what we've done, but we're bringing Lucas in We've coined a null for it that because we haven't got it. He's not moving as Phil said there a few minutes ago Lucas is there for this mid-failor yesterday You you're fair enough side If you look at y'all while and he has played most true balls in the final toward Evangivar mid-failors. Well, barge already because at the end of the game he was pushed right on Lucas made no forward passes in the final toward None Absolutely none the majority of his passes. He made feel 44. He gets the 40 table complete. Fantastic. Great Fucking 40 them went out Johnson 10 yards. He that's all he done. Just helped it out that way But what Alan brings to the team if I can just go back to it He was constantly probing yesterday, you know, and against teams that are practical So you want to be probing all the time and when it breaks down you stop your static and you move it and you change the angles Yesterday, it was just so pedestrian all the time. So I'm going to get on an open a lot of the Johnson You know, there's no problem into the little channels Where if you look and I know broke down to go a few times in Alan, but he was trying it You've got to keep trying these little probe balls. Yeah one of them will come off and I think There's some late in the game. I think there's a So the raspous our storage comes on and we did one of them and it's a little link up But that's what we should be in probe and rather than just constantly open that wood and trying to flick Carson into box Will we come on to the lack of product that came from those little passes on to Johnson and a little while? But molly, let's stick with the positive for a minute and have a look at Raheem Sterling who to be fair was probably our best attacking for certainly full of energy Amazing pace and and and just someone who looks to have a lot of guile And for a kid so young still, but I mean he was double team triple team the times because they were worried about him Yeah, I probably say he was a running bright spark here. Yeah, he was joining one. It was willing to mix it up He was willing to try something different. You know, he was trying to take on a player If that didn't work he was looking good to cross it in If that didn't work he was looking either to change the flank or go to the tip of the diamond So he asked for me. He was joining bright spark And you have to say for a kid of 19 He has shown some great maturity this season Especially playing in that role in the tip of that diamond Like that's not an easy role to play. A lot of kids, you know, managers seem to put them out to the wing because They can kind of hide out there at times But there's no hiding when you're playing in the tip of that diamond He's showing some great maturity this season So and I know uh Suarez storage Gerard they're all probably going to get the plaudits this season no matter what way look we winish come toward whatever it is These are the three guys getting the plaudits, but for me You know sterling should be right up there in that bracket and it's really exciting to know that we have this kid on our hands and You know at 19 what's he going to be like in another five six years time when he hits his prime Yeah, very true. Very true. Dave hummus. That's a very good point. And the moly mace is that this kid's only going to get better. We hope Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, if you look at the season as a whole, I think he's being absolutely wonderful I think I mean, you know, he's the type of player that if and you know without speculating your Suarez was to leave he makes you feel a little bit better about that because you think god this kid can actually play anywhere You know, you know, he you know, we should be building our side around him as much as any other player in that team ready I thought he was I thought he did well yesterday and you know, I thought there was there but he did well in moments You know and I thought what he did was, you know, he beat mattage at one point You know shrug matt and mattages three times bigger than it was, you know, you know, move forward with the ball What I what I think he did and everyone was guilty of it and it was a little bit I thought they would absolutely spot on about the Lucas point and about you know, that's just a big hole there So what I think ended up happening is, you know, Sterling and Suarez and Alan They were all just taking one touch too many, you know, instead of their little passes and, you know, probing as as they'm over saying So what Sterling did is because he found it quite easy in the last three or four games To pick up the ball beat three or four players and then he'd be through He was trying that a lot and he beat one player Yeah, but you're not going to beat three or four of those players, you know, they're absolute gargoyles on the pitch, you know, so I thought that I thought the I thought that what he was doing was the same type of stuff But I think it showed that he's 19 He's full of confidence He thinks he can perhaps do a little bit more than he did and what I actually thought but I would like to hear him continue So everyone just as the Emma said just probe stop, you know, one touch pass go back try go through the middle You know, and I think we'll come on to what didn't work But for me he was symptomatic of that a little bit just always just that one touch too many or two touch too many But a season on the whole he's been absolutely phenomenal. Absolutely. No, we're going to talk as as as they've said about The way we got to later on which was forcing us and all our best players trying to force it but first let's start with talking about the full backs and Their effectiveness are lack thereof on the day. Um, talk to me about Flanagan and Johnson well, first of all Flanagan as a Defense of fallback again was was spot on the mark one is one of his challenges did everything that he'd expect from a defensive point of view like he as I said, he was isolated at times in the fourth half and was able to handle the tread of Salah and As pilaguela coming down that flank not a borrowed woman and it's a measure of his Strength as a player over the course of the season that he's able to handle these international players And without much without battling eyelid now right his product in the final toward We know is not up there in terms of top quality attack and fallbacks But it's hard to put in point anyone in their squad here and say that they're now top quality attack and fallbacks. Um and we sort of Didn't use them enough in the right way. Um Because we flashed way too many crosses into the box yesterday and an awful lot of this came from jelty Were letting us take the ball in front of their line of seven across the box and they were happy for us to go avoid to Whoever was on the flank be it stirling be it johnson be it whoever made the way out where sware has gone at wood And they were actively encouraging crosses into the box because this is what they did at let it go Madrid on wednesday We talked about this. It was like everyone's gone. Oh, jeez. Look. I want to mention without going Madrid is that all they did was They put crosses into the box on my but that's the way Chelsea have set up to To play against it. They want to get it out there They've got all their big men lined up in the box crosses comes in meet and drink and they'll clear it away And they'll let you take it again and they'll force you to go wide with it right What we needed from our fallbacks there was a bit more composure a bit more patience a bit less In inclination to want to drive it and force it when they're in wide positions and just Come back into central Are the our attackers also wearing an integral in this and that they didn't set themselves open the right positions around the box Because when we did flashing across it was normally one player up against three or four Chelsea players and it needed A wallie to actually find the feet are the head of one of our players to pick them out in the forest the bodies That was gonna say I wasn't necessarily just entered full-back the the moisey and the amount of crosses that we put in it was more Like, I mean cutiny up in a tremendous method There were straight balls or kind of pink straight balls You know the best you can offer is a knockdown. In fact, Alan shot Which I would still say it was the best one at least it drew a proper safe in shorter And was was his result of a poor clearance. Yeah from a crap ball, really? Yeah, but Johnson and the like the type of crosses that I would have braided Stuart down About last year because they were that same type of both they look like dangerous crosses because they go into the dangerous areas of The the box but because they're just into a forest of blue jerseys with very few red jerseys in there You're effectively giving up your attack and opportunity every time What we needed was we needed Suarez to have a bit more oil about him yesterday We needed Sterling to be more prepared to play with his back to goal even though he's not naturally a big man But just to be able to sit on the 18-yard box and allowed the Chelsea defenders to come suck down to him To create a bit more space around that edge of the box I know people say look there were seven players in front of there But that's how teams have broken down this blanket defense that marina has done before and you know Ultimately they let us go to the full backs and air full backs played exactly the way Chelsea wanted them to play Which was to let them have the ball because they're what they'll do is they'll put it into the box because they think that's the right thing to do And I think the most crosses we put in in the match before the yesterday was was around the 20 mark or so 20 And we put 29 in yesterday and it just shows you the difference in emphasis We don't score many goals off cross from open play We score a lot from set pieces that we've had but not from open play Because when they do that and I've also heard people say oh look This is a style of play now that other teams will adopt when they come to play us What other teams have tried that against us the difference is the level of quality of players that Chelsea have on the day And the way they've been drilled into playing this system under marina because he's used this with such success at parto Into melan not so much at real Madrid because you know things didn't work out the way they they have from previously He even used the Chelsea when he was there previously in in in european games in the whole up But he had better he had better center forward So they were able to play more progressive attacking game when he was there the first time around But all we did was he settled the benchmark as how he's going to play us on wednesday And we we willingly accepted how they wanted to play We never imposed the way we've played against other teams throughout the course of the season yesterday And ultimately when you look at this That was our downfall because we just lacked that little bit of patience and that little bit of extra goil Which we've shown in other games when we've needed to andi i know you might have a slightly contrary opinion to this And what about what about that theory that phil is pausing there that Basically, i've heard it said that rogers is almost naive in the way that he approached the game I don't hold up with that myself But isn't true to say that we didn't manage to force our usual game onto chalcy And they certainly did manage to do what they wanted to do to us Yeah, but like If chalcy had a dawn that a couple of months ago to us We might have unlocked them. In fact, he probably would have We're going off the boil like we ran out where we've been running our steam a while and we've been Getting a lot our way a novel our way Whatever his penalties are refereeing decisions are you know incidents in the game that are pivotal and People haven't got the energy now that they had a couple of months ago. You know what i mean? It's With you know four games left It's just it was just an awful lot to see it over the line and win all them four games now like What marinio did a lot of other teams in the primary league they would have finished mid-table every year. Yeah, um, that was a different level of You know off the scale like I mean, you don't get air against his let go during the week And the other performance i like it until was a few years ago when he was managing the intern they played barriser and they went true That was that was quite like that as well. It was ugly and We just we just don't have that now at this stage of the season to be just to be buzzing around Suarez has gone out of arms. Storage is obviously carrying that knock It's just it's just one of those it's just one of those fucking things like i mean the game could have went totally different Yes, he had you know had sack all got that early goal or whatever. Yeah, you know, you have to set except certain things I mean, we just we just didn't you know what i mean? And I wouldn't be too critical of what rogers Tried to impose at all the best way the team know at the moment is what they've been doing for a few weeks now There's no point in resulting back to something that we were kind of doing earlier on in the season Just kind of get you know picking up points We started to play where we started to get into a rhythm of how we were winning games and A course rogers wanted to kill them off only in the forest 20 minutes again But marinio Like don't know every everything he could to stop you know a little people getting the momentum And try this as it's just being mentioned already staying in the crowd and everything so like If we're i just tried something different yesterday and we didn't win are we last the same either being absolutely home today? Yeah, you know, yeah What more can you ask at our team exactly fucking 14 players? Exactly and idiots are going to come out and say stupid shit And they have been doing if you if you i'm just talking about the game on its merits Um, yes, because at the end of it I'm not taking away from what this team has achieved over the last 14 games I'm just talking about that one display yesterday that you know, we've seen where And it's and it's very few managers Let's be straight about this very few managers get the upper hand on marino in terms of in one-off matches And when we got if you even look back to the Chelsea match in december when we played against them and they went to one up They were very similar and how they set up against us then they dropped back and they just let it deforest us Wait, I mean we ended up playing cross in the box But tell me tell me the The counter argument what Andy's saying there what the fuck can we do given that we do have a level of As Andy says perhaps end of season tone is going on. Yeah, and i'm not what could happen there that i'm not disputing any of that at all Right. I'm just saying that we needed to approach that were just a little bit more good because it wasn't like They were running at us and stretching us open or whatever right they were camped around the edge They're 18 yard bucks. It was effectively 24 yards out from gold They sat there and they camped there and that was it. They set up shop right and they said come and break us down Now the main way we tried to break them down was whether playing True balls over the top are cross balls, right? And that didn't work Instead of us instead of us looking for a different way and I don't believe that Rogers didn't say to them at half time Right now to look just a bit more patience here You know, we need to get one two is more one two is going on the box Various different things because Rogers is not a tactically naive manager as we've seen over the course of the season Just And these points has a lot of validity if there is tired minds in that pitch Which there could well be because of the type of running all that we've been on and the pressure that we've been on to continually win games Because of what city and Chelsea have done, right? The players may not have been able to react and then you do get things like Steve He wanted to make up for his for his era You get Suarez trying to run true players instead of just you know Taking a step back a deep breath laying it off and then looking to get a give and go You know, you get continue instead of trying to play that 15 yard true ball He only needs to play a one two because you get Sterling working in half the back of Suarez Or you get Suarez playing in upstairs and something like that Something that's it's much more Toyota. It's something that Barcelona have done brilliantly for years, right? This is the other thing we aren't Barcelona yet, right? But we're playing in a similar type of similar type style manner And if you play those quick interchange balls around that's how that Marineial type defense is being broken down because it's one two three And then what happens is the player gets in around the back of one of those defenders because the more you probe and goil And more you probe and pick and probe and pick and probe and pick on that type of defense where you're not just putting it into the box The Toyota day become because they have to defend in a much more organized fashion Whereas if you just keep putting crosses and cross balls into the box It's easy to defend headers and easy to defend clearings in the back. Yeah, I agree I mean, but I think that if we're judging the game on its merits Just like Andy said a lot of things are falling an hour away We just got beaten by a better team You know the reality is the reason is it's not like We didn't play quick passes around the box because we can't do that away. I haven't done that before that's what we've done for Nine months. So something stopped us doing that yesterday and that something was Chelsea, so You know when we beat teams what we do is we come on these podcasts and we say look how great we were Look how tactically spot on Rogers got it. He did this and he moved them here and he did this and he did that Well, do you know what Marineo did it better yesterday? I don't you know, I I agree with you There's no way Rogers went out that I said put crosses in the box What I think happens is crosses come when they're trying to do things quick Because they think they've got to do something and our game is all around doing something quick doing it a paste Making a decision being offensive and when you can't play a football in the drive new wide The offensive thing to do is to try something that's you know more risky and in in their heads crossing is more risky. So I think you know Marineo again that I mentioned on the podcast last week if you read this book that's being written about him You know one of the things he says is you know We don't want the ball because if you got the ball you're going to make a mistake Right and the team that wins the game is the team that makes the list that the least mistakes We made one mistake. They made zero. That's why they won the game That I mean that was really the difference. We made one mistake and that his entire side was built up around making mistakes Um Can I come there? Please do Molly. I go ahead. Go ahead. It's that often I disagree with the F was I got a disagreement this day I don't think We got beaten by a better team. In fact, uh, I don't think even Chelsea beat us What really happened was there that we beat ourselves to nil You know the reason Chelsea won that came to nil was just down to mistakes That could happen to anyone you know you could play that game. I think 10 more times And Chelsea won the beat us Do you want to reason the one year step? Gerard slipped but I was in we were pushing for the goal in the second half And if we had conceded that first goal due to mistake, we wouldn't consider the second one So I I don't think the better team beat us We beat ourselves. That's just as we I look at it. Well, listen. This is vaguely related to Molly Talk to me about captain and his performance on the day. Um The the people have been making merry with the whole slip thing and all the rest of us been hired this summer um over the course of the last 24 hours As you say, it's just bloody unfortunate. Um, but as the match went on. I think Phil tushin earlier on There was evidence of stevie playing that game. They used to play with him taking the whole responsibility onto his own shoulders And our other main man Suarez doing the same and trying to force it and where is that eminently understandable? It didn't really help us did it in terms of the kind of panic levels rather than the patient Build up that we might have needed No, certainly not and that whole slip thing. The irony has been lost in me which is we will not let it slip and he slips you know Yeah, well We've we've we've heard that on the first and all the pictures and all the pictures Clever. It's such a such a thing to happen. The Liverpool radius Just a fucking pass. It just seems always happen things like that those where I want to laugh Do you know somebody was saying that that's um where he slipped is where there's a sprinkler head or something on the pitch I think he's not there today Sorry, but we're getting back to multi. Sorry. I just wanted those things this kind of shit happens basically Just wanted those things What happened after that really was is that he was trying to make up for that mistake And I think he was trying to force it a bit so many shots straight down the line Yeah You know in past seasons one of one of those would have went in and we would have been to your Showed under rooftops about how much we brilliant player there is which of course He's a brilliant player But I'm not too sure we has that in his locker anymore those tortilla screamers And he was just trying to force this instead of getting this and passing out wider I just create one tool as far as wherever it is so That that sleep kind of it did effective for the rest again Yeah, and what what about this while you're on the whole topic of force and what did you think of Suarez and his efforts on on the day? I think Suarez tried everything he really did I know he didn't have one of his better games, but it wasn't for a lack of trying really You know, you could really look at every player on that pitch here step and say this I don't think any player really had a bad game. Yes, they would be completely honest with you It's just none of them had a great game It was nobody magic or of anyone there your step and Suarez was just one of those He tried this but nothing nothing was working and it's so hard to break down You know 10 guys behind the bar like that, especially when when those 10 guys are 10 full international Chelsea players Yeah, I have so I was actually yesterday I was kind of angry the way marina set up. It actually felt like he was cheating if you have the exit I said this is not how Four parlours might be played but in hindsight, you have to tip cap to the guy You went out to get a result and he got it. Yeah, no. Okay. The only reason he got that was was result Yeah, it was because of two mistakes we made but it wasn't for lack of trying in our behalf Yeah, I just had the chance to defense was too good Yeah, all this talk about indifference on his part Do you see the way you celebrate that second goal? That was uh, that was pretty pretty hard to watch Floody talked to me about the captain and um This idea that perhaps they slipped it affected in terms of trying to force the play outwards I don't think so He continues to play the game you had like that. He just grabs the ball straight away and he gets on whenever he fucking what happened happened Let's get on with him. Yeah. Yeah, but as I said earlier on Himself and alima constantly probing to a problem problem problem wasn't walking when when the shot opens up You're going to pull the trigger. He gets that's not just a red They get if that lands at alan's feet and that's same position. He pulls the trigger of Lanza swears He's gonna pull the trigger. Gerard was getting into them positions. Uh, if that's a very good point. Yeah, if anyone looks at Gerard's That's for that game yesterday. It's fucking phenomenal. The amount of passes shots tackles clearances that my majesty is fucking frightening He's trying to go and look at it and look at it later on because I mean we got so full straight looking at it yesterday If you look at his The whole fucking pages nearly follow with his past and his shield and his tackling and said and everything is They there's a lot of red on it because he's forced a little bit But like he wasn't fortunate at the end of the game. It wasn't just stable like it's And it said if one of them was in the top corner, we were fucking out and that that's the state of dread We are now in love for it just didn't walk out yesterday from but I don't I wouldn't blame him for trying to force it like it's And what I want about a rotorman who's who's front and central swears There's there's been a bit of chat here in the in the podcast over the last few weeks that I think it's fair that he has Certainly gone off the boiled form while he's even though he's gotten an odd goal here and there But yesterday he really struggled didn't he in fairness to get his school guess they um without table swears He loves the other man in a one-on-one situation. Uh, he looks a little bit space to milvey They just caught all kinds of space offerings. It's as simple as that simple as that They just did giving him realm anywhere to play. What would I look in the seat and feel the sound? Maybe if you're staring and swears getting the player the back to go And what you're looking there is to play a wild pass off them into the end and get a runner off And that opens up the gaps into them. They put combustors that affect That's the only way of pointing it. It's the wild pass that'll get you true These little clip ones are over the top of trying to force them. They normally break down But you can't if somebody makes a run. It's very difficult if it's well passed up to stop that You know that that'd be the only thing that I would have changed with swears because every time we come into him He tried to turn he tried to flick past Just fucking hold them up and lay it off to somebody, you know Little one around the corner spin off realm. He didn't seem to do any of that yesterday Uh, it's but that's not his natural game. Yeah, I mean, I I think that You know, I think we're judging the game on as matter as far as our poor game You know, and I think that just because he's at a phenomenal season You know, we shouldn't I'm not saying that's what they was doing. I think he's absolutely right But I think we've got to say he had a poor game I mean, I just think The best thing about swears and the worst thing about swears is the same thing Which is that he plays the same way every game He plays every game as if he's going to win the whole thing by himself And sometimes that comes off for him a thing to come off for him and everyone else joins in What I would have liked him to do yesterday is to realize he's getting no joy And just go, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to drag defenders out of the way. I'm going to lay stuff off I'm going to do something a little bit different and you know sterling Coutinho starry jaspas, whatever You go into the box and that's all I'm going to do is pull the defender out because he was double tindo all game Yeah, two defenders on him all game But he doesn't do that what he says is oh, I got two defenders. I'll try and beat them then So that's what I just got a little bit frustrated with him yesterday I would have just And maybe he's not the type of player that's ever going to do that And we have to respect that and appreciate that because he's phenomenal But the the smarter player or maybe smart is the wrong way I don't know more tactically aware or more team orientated player would have gone I'm getting nothing to me. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to do so, but I'm going to be the decoy I'm going to run here and I know I'm not going to get the ball But you know what khalis is going to come with me or evanovich is going to come with me and let's stir in Let's stir and play up front. So that was my only criticism of him. I think if we're going to Truly judge everyone on what happened. Yes. So you have to say as far as that's how to pull it probably four weeks actually Yeah, well, like I go back as far as you know it away That's when the crack started they kind of come You know when Suarez there was a couple of times when he fell in that game and since then Every game he seems to be forced and wanting to deal for himself It's like he has this record of golf guard in sight and he just wants to score every game Which is brilliant. That's what you want your striker to do. But um the level of quality the level of quality that we've been used to is just being fallen away now He wants coaches in the box and just yesterday was one of those games where he was never going to get touches in the box That's when Suarez at his best or if you can run out of here an isolated player But there was not such thing as isolating a player like you know Sterling as well as he could play there's not such thing as isolating a player when you put banks of players like and you know They're doubling up every time. So Suarez had a poor game, but still you're just you're just waiting And waiting and waiting he only needs one mom did a poor game versus city and he had that true ball for Um, starting very don't brilliantly knocking two players onto the floor. So like that's just the way I wouldn't change it for the world like you know, I mean you if Suarez starts playing Um, away from the box or pulling players out, you know, it's it's one of our one of our main problems players that are causing the cause teams problems that was just laughing really, you know, so And I get back to Jared as well. I'm glad with them I said because the mental people saying Jared was forcing it forcing it like that was one way We could have unlocked them They were opening up for shots. It just needed a bit more quality than Jared delivered on the day And maybe maybe it wasn't his head it will happen the early around and maybe he wanted that fucking wonder goal so much But boy god, that was that was just one way that it could have happened It was opening up every fucking time and all he needed was to get one on target and Swatch it a spilling and Suarez is always going to be there, isn't he? Yeah, so I mean Can't knock Jared for that. The slip is just fucking one of those things with the way we play Rogers It's gonna happen. We're constantly nicking balls last minute away from it. If forward that's hunting down Mingenle has got away with the tons of times. Sackles got away with it, Agar, Skirtle, Flanagan, Johnson They've all been getting away with it And if it's just one of those occasions if he doesn't slip he just gets the ball and he gets a nick on it And let me be over. Yeah, fair. Love Phil Yeah, I suppose when you look at the players that have been so integral to our big games Catenio, Suarez, Gerard Storage and you look at storage his intro as well into the game because everyone was saying, you know, get storage on get storage on It's not working and he comes on and you can see the guy is clearing off here He wasn't able to open his gate at all in terms of, you know He couldn't run up players even with that second goal to score he can't recover and like storage is an exceptionally fast player But he can't recover quickly enough from a bad touch that says to me He's still very much carrying the knock and even afterwards Brendan himself said that he hadn't trained all week And you know he has to make the gamble. He's like, you cannot Fold bludgers were putting them on because it was the right thing to do But you can't follow it for not starting to meet her if he knew that that was the fitness level that storage was playing up Because you know you start him and you're effectively playing with 10 men against Chelsea's 11 so there's no issue there It's interesting when when we talk about Gerard Forstner like to me it felt like anyway He wanted to so much make up for the amount that was going on And he's and credit to him that it stats are so high in the hole up But at times I just felt that you know, some of the shots he was taking was that little bit far out that the odds were against them For a player that hasn't been, you know putting them in from 24, 35 You know 26, 27 yards for two or three seasons now He was doing something that he hasn't been doing for a while And you know he's not in the vein of form in terms of long distance shooting that he would have been four or five seasons ago Where these type of things happened on a regular basis and it's like anything the more you practice something the more likely it's going to come off And I thought it was very interesting that Chelsea were allowing certain players to have shots And preventing others like Your talk about Suarez he gets the ball he turns and he runs into a bank of players They were quick to get open pressing and not allowed to get away the shots because the one player has been scoring goals from stupid distances For us and you know wonder shots and wonder strikes is Suarez Similarly when storage got on they never let storage cut back in onto his left foot to get a shot off He was always closed down and blocked off for a shot from that side And they were letting Joe Allen take shots because they know that he isn't renowned for his long distance shooting They let katino have shots because we do know how poor katino was shooting has been I thought it was interesting though that it didn't seem to press Gerard in terms of a shooting because you know if There's one player I was going to press regardless of what he's been taking them and on Gerard is definitely one of the players that I would have been pressing to do it He's come up from deep but other than players like you know he's not going to be picked up from where he was Like Chelsea were camped. So you know Jared's come up from deeper. He's not being picked up He's going to have space to shoot. I don't think they've fucking made the decision that Gerard shoots Because Suarez came from deep and plenty of occasions and they got out and they got out and they got out and depressed Jared's playing very well They'd get out and press him if he weren't letting them get shots away Like they were actively not letting certain players get shots away because I think There's a logic in it I don't know how you can make that decision in your head. Oh, it's only katino. Oh, it's only allen It's only Gerard You know, I mean you're going to react to you got like If the fender is going to be mark and Suarez is his job not to fucking let him score But nobody's drilled nobody's told Man mark Jared because he's playing the fence in midfield role. I thought I just I just can't accept that I mean But I just I just don't think a team sets out in the little certain players to shoot I just think there's certain people they picked up not to do a shooting or anything like that I just think they said like they man mark Suarez They man marked they put two or three on sterling so we could so they're front our front three then So what happened is what the defenders went with them whereas because Jared was coming from deep I think he had more options. I mean just to echo the Jared point I thought that his the 10 minutes after half time after he's made the mistake Was one of the best 10 minute periods. I've seen him play in a long time after he makes that mistake I think any other player falls to pieces there He wants the ball. If you watch that 10 minutes back He wants the ball all the time. Give me the ball. Give me the ball. Give me the ball. Do you know There's talk that he was devastating the dressing room after the actual game itself, right? And I'm hoping that the likes of Steve Peters and I'll just give him the videotape of the game and say look There's nothing more you can do after you make the mistake like your work rate and everything that you're doing And you've driven that team on you'll get your drust rewards if you continue to continue to do what you're doing Continue to do it right. Yeah, I think there's a lot there as well And just not one of us don't want them but absolutely backed him if we did get a pen He was absolutely absolutely confident in doing it. You know what I mean? um Okay, look. I've picked the bonds out of that possibly enough. Let's move on to have a look at our second part which is The next game which is crystal palace Football feast the Yes, yes, crow stoke palace City one the weekend after us so the title is no longer strictly speaking in our hands And a little choice now but to beat our two opponents that we've got coming up and see what happens elsewhere um With no Henderson in this game either It's likely isn't a fully to be the same 11 that started the last two I know you've spoken early on about how you wouldn't like it to be but it is likely to be It's likely to be should be now. Yeah, it is likely to be though. Um, I feel if it is the same There's a fucking very large banana skin on that camp. I said before an orange game with Lucas coming into that soil We would struggle when they failed. Uh, they have a fairly decent midfield that does not warbeards with the man yet in it He's he's toyy. Uh, I think I think he's one of the highest tackle rates in the league Uh, he's fantastic on the ball as well. He's actually a fairly smart actually said you're a day He's an option. He's a decent player. Um If to put Lucas in there, I think we'll struggle I think we have to change it a little bit to how to play What suits us rather than what we have available if we have to bring a kid in Like I didn't if I caught a brainoid back off long or anything to change this And I'll go back to probably having a 4-2-3 one rather than having the far We're going to be missing storage as well. Mm-hmm likely enough Uh, if we have storage back available, I think Lucas just steps out and we go back to what we have been used to Uh, but I I think if Lucas players, I think we can get unstuck in this game as well and it worries me Yeah, with those weren't me and coming to the side fair enough molly. It's it's it's um given the Lack of mobility the kid showed on sunday. It's highly unlikely. We see Daniel started starting this game Isn't it even with another week to recover? Yeah, I I don't I can't see stories starting this game as they almost said I would like to see him start it Uh, just because that would mean that locus would drop out of the team. No, I I know I've been I've been back in locus in the past Well, I think that's maybe because everyone has to been slaughtered when I tried to give a guy a break and his experience But they have made a comment on and they show a couple weeks ago about I guess we'll never play it for a little pull again At this stage. I feel the same about locus. Yes. They should be his last game. He should never play with us again but unfortunately he probably will against palace and if palace could be At the end of the side I had to break know the punch in there to have time this ends You know to technically be pse enough and I'd worry with locus and that would feel against a couple of pse wingers midfielders up against him both I think it will be the same team jester. Yeah. Yeah, so it's possibly To be fair too big of a of a of an ask now with the goal difference the way it is for us to even be considering I've heard some crazy show to various people talking about how we might rain that in but it's it's bananas in many ways to think We could do it out because You know city you're gonna score goals as well if it was if it was two months ago And you have star storage and Suarez on the form that they were on and we were Putting fours and fives and past teams with with ease. Yeah And you might say just have yet. You might you might do something magical with a swing again city perhaps Yeah, yeah, but but you're still like you're more likely for city to drop points than you are to To change a 12 goal swing in two games. Of course So we'll talk to me then just that does does that have to end with Brandon's thinking that when he's when he's like I mean with the way the way you set the team up Yes, you set up to win the palace game one ill if that's all it means and you put the points on the board Um, like you can't you can't you can't do any more than win your two games Right, you can't think about goal difference because the problem when once you start thinking about goal difference Your focus goes away from just winning the match. It's like it's it's a goal chase at that stage I'd prefer us to get six points on the board and see where that leads us at the end of the season for sure Because if you put six points on the board City will have to put together a four game winning streak to win the league Right, they'll have to win win all four over the last four of matches No, they've done two. They've got three left and you know Just put you know It looks relatively easy in terms of the teams they're playing against but fill it when when villa go to play them They'll need points to mathematically secure the place in the league for the following season regardless of what happens at the weekend So, you know, it's it's this type of thing where you look at the palace game and you say How the team go into that match will depend an awful lot on the results that happen over the course of the weekend You've got city playing if they win they'll go above us on goal difference Right before we kick a ball on one day if Chelsea win Chelsea will be top of the league So potentially we could be toward going in playing palace Right so you'd imagine that just gives the drive in the dressing room as opposed to a fear But it gives a drive in the dressing room that the lads want to take this to the last day of the season regardless of what goes on anywhere else And they know that the only thing that matters then is a win one nil two nil 20 nil. It doesn't matter once we get three points on the on the board on monday night Yeah, so I have my concerns as Damien how I probably have slightly different ones I think we need a little bit of freshness now brought back into the soil I think what Andy said is a good point that it does seem to be a bit of you know running out of steam and maybe players You know struggling a bit with ideas or just that mental block of what's going on And I wouldn't be against the same Flanagan move to write back and and bring him at least as I'll go back in into left back because You know we're talking about crosses and the twig teams attack us and and Pulitzer's side will look to get down the flanks and look to put crosses in and I'm just thinking of if you can cut that out and the two best fallbacks We have a cut now offensive cross because palace i'm not going to sit back and part the boss in the same way Chelsea did yet They'll defend deep and look to play on the counter But you won't go defensive fallbacks in that instance to prevent their main threats Which is you're saying punching and Thomas insk writing down the actual flanks If storage isn't fit, I wouldn't start Luke. I say anyway. I'll bring Moses back into the team I know that sounds cool. Some people don't know what the hell is going on there You know, but it's it won't for a start. It's one of Moses's ex clubs He's only got two games left at Liverpool He needs to impress because he wants to he's gone back to Chelsea at the end of the season He says he wants to prove that he has a career at Chelsea You know in in such strange games heroes are made Um, and I would rather see a frontry of Moses sterling and Suarez going into that game with continue allen and gyrard in the center midfield then seeing lucas and forcing continue hoying the park again And then you know having lucas and allen in the team because I think we'll have more Momentum and forward trust and we'll be able to play with a much quicker tempo if lucas is out of the side And I think moses for all his shittness that he's being for us, right? He can provide an option. He is pacey. He is powerful and he can do something in that sort uh andy uh a couple of fairly big shouts there from felt first of all the idea dropping Johnson, which I think the fellow agrees hoying on like you Bring them. I'm not saying that this is going to happen. No. No, it's what you'd like. Yeah, but what where would you stand? The idea of taking moses in for this much. No way. Oh fucking way. Okay. That's the film. Moses is a prick Don't hold back there He he hadn't said a fucking war at all season and he picks the week at our Chelsea game to start talking about his fucking mates Down and running and I don't fucking believe for a second that he's not fucking talking to them You know all week preparing You know what a fucking wanker to come out and disrupt our preparation Playing his you know a parent club peculiar time. So it wouldn't no fucking way No way and he's he does to come out and deal that he obviously has a little bit of a hang up That he's not got the game time and he's not got the chance to prove himself and his lawn hasn't walked out Fuck him. He wouldn't even have him on the bench while you're while you're on the roll. I wouldn't even have him in training grounds While you're on the roll, uh, let's talk about your other friend Felt again spoke about uh heroes being made in in peculiar scenarios. We had uh Yago singularly failing to be the hero that we hoped you would be despite a couple of nice little touches at the weekend He made a mistake that everyone pounced on Does yago come into the thinking? No, like, I mean there's a couple of shouts Luke. We should never play for the club again agr Should never play for the club again, you know there that's that there that's wild in my opinion aspus He shouldn't even play football again you know, uh Early on when you know, we I see an aspus plays one of our age. I just looked at him says now fucking he's crap He's not gonna fucking do anything for us. Uh, I said here when one of our fours podcasts. Uh, uh, geek, I believe yeah, geek and every time he come on, you know He got a chance for a little bit of whatever being a cop or whatever I said come on there you go, you know, prove me wrong because that's what a little more than anything He's a noise surprise and the fella does something he's failed on every single occasion An absolute fucking melogian player and whoever's responsible for bringing them Aim should be for it as well. I mean, how many players are in europe troikers? How many? Hundreds and fucking hundreds Ask us Why? Why? Why is it all? Why? Fucking jostify it. Like honestly, you know, he shouldn't play no fucking chance One of the enflas where's uh, fucking Jerome Sinclair. Where's that fucking German bloke there? What the fuck at the corner? Like, I mean, I mean, that's not pointing hard but I'm able to put a wheel And like he's at left for is obviously being part of the corner for a very specific reason for for an in-swinging corner and he does that. Yeah, mad mad. We did try that tactic. Yeah, we did Paul like, you know He was the player. He was the player to go find it. He didn't even nearly make it to the player It didn't even nearly do it. It reminded me when you see a kid playing snooker and they can't quite reach the fire into the table We're shot, bro. That's where we're running up. Yeah, he does. Yeah. Oh my god We have to do something different and be it something fucking mad. Yeah, it has to be something different than how it looks in the team No, I think we just think stories like a marred a day is preparation. I think stories will make it But hopefully though. Yeah, but I think you make it. My reasoning behind this is I'd rather have a mousers or an aspects That's does something positive. Do we do fucking loads of negative and mess up here and there? But do something positive trying to score then have someone sit in the middle of the pack and pay forty-four passes soidwards to a fallback Well, I'm playing but playing backways used to and then just move your head on like But I don't think you I don't think you should I don't think when you've got a functioning Trade there in continue And Gerard who functions so well And we're just replacing Henderson with Alan and we know that hen Alan can can do the Henderson role more than adequately in in that midfield I don't see why we should disrupt the create a such a strong creative base That's done so well for us over a course with season in a shape that we've done To accommodate a player who can't play at the same tempo that the other players can in those positions And given that our whole basis of that run that we've been on more or less Has been built on such slick quick pass and shoot a midfield and being able to move through transition so quickly Why why why why you disrupt it? Why not just why not look to change something up front where you still have sterling and Suarez And you know who even if they're out of form as you said even if they're out of form Suarez is still capable of common up with magic Sterling has been common up with magic in the absence of real magic from Suarez and storage So all you're doing is replacing one part of that front line who may still come up with a goal or something for us Right or even if you want bring in teshara bring in bring in something don't be afraid Look, we know the brand is not afraid of putting the kid because we go back to the full of match away when he could have brought Asperson he could have brought mode, you know somebody else in at that point, but he gave it to teshara I'm just I just don't see why we need to go and change A really good midfield setup to accommodate a player when we don't necessarily need to accommodate Believe that he could do something like that. He would have done it like the preparation The evidence was there against Norwich where you know Rogers has in his head Lucas playing against city You know what what am I gonna do? And I mean Lucas didn't play well against Norwich and that was that was every reason Rogers needed to leave Lucas out a Chelsea game And look for something different whether it's bringing texturing in or whatever But he just didn't fit he obviously just didn't fail that he has that trust and faith in anything else that's in the squad I mean, I think if he did if he does have a sure he only made two subs yesterday You know if he had if he could trust if he could trust the player to come in think he would have Yeah, yeah, we don't know it's better than we do you know what I mean We were all dream and that he's some fucking quality You know to come in or we used to do it about our barrio before he got banned from driving Yeah, it's quite obvious that uh texturing is took his place on the bench in the back in honor Brandon knows what's going on molly. Um, what were you gonna say in that? You know, I just said that between it's quite obviously Moses, Aspis, Lucas, Alberto There are shape basically. It's just that Lucas is the last sheet of all of them Yeah, I think that's why he's going to get into that team Yeah, but really it goes on to another conversation maybe for another day regardless squad this if you look at this We probably got 13 players that is all we have And to show where we are top of the table with 13 players What a remarkable achievement that is Yeah, that's something you can't lose sight of to be fair Let's let's just move it so it was what yourself molly and talk about the team. We're going to be facing at the weekend Tony pios's team Who have been of late pretty impressive until the weekend that we're I think city were pretty ruthless I don't know what they look like they could they could have even helped us. I think they just put them to bed um What do we think uh palace are going to look like considering they're safe? They've got nothing really to play for Um, does that come into pios is thinking is that something we can even factor into the way we approach it And what do we have to worry about with them? Well, I don't think being safe coming to pios is thinking but I wouldn't think he would come into the players thinking And they're going to be on holiday mode. No matter what pios is saying to them Those lads are they're safe. We're gonna have to do why for the summer type of situation You know So I wouldn't be I know I'm not really not worried about the whole palace situation I think we'll set up like we've set up all season to go out and blitz teams I think that's what we look to do again like people are our authors and our Tightness over and all that I really don't see that way But I remember couple months back it was marina was interviewed when he was top to table And he was saying look if city win all their games they go top where No, it's still we're wrong. We're top to table and if city win all their games fear of their top Well, what would you prefer would you prefer the points or would you prefer the games? I'd always take the points personally. So I don't think this league is over And I certainly don't think the Liverpool players see this league is over Brendan Rogers So I could seem without her to blitz pallets. I'm on the night. Yeah, very interesting day Would you say that's the approach for us to take a more to the point? What do you think we need to think about when it comes to palace and and the way that they line up? Well, like said, yeah, I think we have to start strong I think we have to you know, I think for for a whole manner the reasons and early goal would be would be really nice You know, I think if we score a new goal, we'll kick on I I mean, I I kind of I haven't agreed with morning much today, but I do agree with him on this I do think that the players are going to be up for this. I think there's going to be a reaction I think there has to be a reaction, you know to to what's happened and I think in a way a palace team that are already safe. There's just been turned over by city that are You know, we score early. I think and then I think all difference that I know, you know, it's a far from dream or whatever But why couldn't we beat them for no and then beat Newcastle five? No, Newcastle two now down to us There's eight goals in it They have to score a three to win So that's 11 and then we have to make up. No, no, hang on them. They've only got one more game So nobody that they'd win if you're gonna finish on the same points and 86 points each. That's it, right? They have to win their last three games. Yeah, okay, so they score one in each. That's 11. That's 11. So we need to win six So We mentioned Sectioning against Newcastle is not an it's not impossible. No, six and a against palace might be I mean, pilots have been being defensively zoned, you know, especially of late. So I completely ruled that it It's the most it could really just come down to motivation out this stage like the fact that new castle are Are down to nail a half turn to arsenal. That probably means that Ursula four points ahead of everything, you know, when they play It's it's a blessing that arsenal Don't play a three o'clock on Saturday and everything they're going into that game No, they're sitting on the third they're finished. Yeah, so they can they have to be professional about and think that This champions the spot is still on. So it's all about the motivation palace of no motivation now. They had no motivation yesterday against them Against sitting they conceded early You know, if I was Rogers or any of the players every interview I did this week I'd be saying something like it's really disappointed. You're ever done. You know fan saying that they they'd rather, you know, they're finished You know, I would have expected more out of them I would expect them to be more professional as a club Every press conference in every interview a Liverpool person is there should be winding them up so that they go out there and go out Well, is that so is that something there with against palace because he keeps mentioning that They're you know, the that preparation for palace being go to chairs Yeah, I don't really know why he's doing that. It's certainly a bit of reverse psychology Are you I think that's a digger marina or more than that? Yeah, but what now now Piotis is something to really write his team up like because oh, oh, yeah, we see now That'll suit us down to the ground up. Yeah, he will he will want them to help us What can I do? Can I just know I mean like okay fair enough like, you know, we we'll we'll we'll we'll show that, you know, we're My more than that and Exactly that is what but I can say pack it. I'm probably pretty pretty or footballed and Chelsea did You know, I think it's it's given them a reason to fucking want to be this you don't don't think I'm saying it's pure as hitus He's on record. I've send you it. There's an interview where he says he can't stand Liverpool So he's going to be well up for fucking doing us over Right, and to be honest with you. Oh, I want them to come out on want to be this Why do I want them to sit back and be be happy to try naked pointer? Look we want them that look Rogers is obviously trying to wind them up so that they come out for it up and try to take the game to us Because then that gives us space to play in and play around Yeah, I hope Rogers is nowhere near the the shower afterwards of Tony's naked because he He just takes lads out Okay, uh, I don't know about this lads. We can talk around circles for ages, but we just get the predictions What do you think let's just get the predictions because um Uh, we can we can go around circles here. So molly. I'll come to you first. How do you think this is gonna go the weekend? I Foreign will win for us Bloody brilliant Andy. Um, yeah, look, it's it's obviously it's it's felt like we've done a bit of a doom and gloom podcast here Like you're in really sure it should be saying things like Uh, we're still in this time of race, which we've fucking very much are I think we've acknowledged that we are I mean Like we have the points in the bag that they have and you know, there is a lot There's a lot still to happen in three games palace. How are you? See you haven't won five in a row too often this year So there is a slip up in order and it could happen against everything and going into the game on sunday if that happens Well, then you're going to see a hugely motivated Liverpool. So depending on that result a lot But you know, it's how we feel about how we go now. I think of if Liverpool are given a reason like palace dropping points I think we've smashed the fucking back axle off palace. Absolutely, you know, because that's what the players need Now is a lift and a good and a result to go away. So, you know, if we go into the game kind of uh, bollocks like, you know See you've just won yesterday then, you know, it could be like a big cage But I think if they give Liverpool that carry again and would smash them So I actually think it's going to be a draw on saturday evening with city and everton And I think we go out and we'd be palace very convincing. Wow. Okay. Um, bloody what you're thinking Straight out top your head. It does rely on my arms in the the city The game stats I've seen today. I love me stats today. Yeah, it's all going to look this one I'm going for the job on ai that's what he's going to do. That's what he's doing now. I'm going to ask these three guys guys Hello guys Here's one for you is adding a lot of this one that city have only won twice in 21 years at everything So they're doing it that way and so But that's the 92 and all nine is there only two wins Have they done against everton reserve teams because that's basically what they're playing Well everything is always you're upset There wasn't ever the full frame the season called called where would interest this is the obvious thing to have some of that's come in and performs But again, like, you know, that was when they had a bit to play for and they've not been playing well lady But you know everything at home As you said, we're them not known the arsenal result because it's a letter again where it's next day. Yeah, next day They have to go for it. Yeah. They can't just show up there It all depends on that game. Yeah, it depends. But do you see it when one way or the other? Yeah, I think we can hit them four or four. Okay. Okay. Dave Thomas So to Andy's point, I think we'll win the league and I said I've said that always for the last few weeks I still think we'll win the league. Um, I think Because I think we'll win our own gold difference. I think we'll win six now Fucking hell that's magic. That's magic. I can't believe everyone's putting their faith in Andy car I've put in their faith in everything and they're forgetting Andy carls and they're waiting to do us a favor I think he goes together at England team again as far as you say he will he will win that he could win the first So for because I've got Andy car on the back. I had a big smiley happy ponytail ahead of them I think we're gonna win. I think we'll win convincingly Well, I tell you something about cities remain infectious if I said it until today if the situation was reversed And we had to win those three games in city at our two games. And even though we had the gold difference We'd be sure that ourselves right. Oh, good enough very point. I mean Phil Casey customary for no win to palace. Thank god flat. Okay, right Without any further ado then let's move on to the mayhem delays the listeners questions and the first question is from mark simpson Who says? And we'll just take random shirts here. Uh name your worst 11 from the premiership this season as pass That's one You have started all caper. Go on. Uh, shit Literally I can't take money. Molly. Molly. Give me a chance for some of the worst You would have ate carrot of tears, really Right, so I carry the players That's been pretty good Okay for a guy who was in Dutch number one. Yeah to be so poor is just Yeah, that's you know, that's near another team right next one. John Anna risa left wall You just got named awful Daniel Agassenta I Christ alive Tom cleverly who's ever played football again next marijuana marijuana and phalini. Yeah There's air really in there Managed by David Moyes. The man who wanted to bring in a 51 point there. I was a slippin in point scattering. Yeah, yeah Moises it. Moises now probably and Molly will come to you for this. Where's the best and worst place that you've ever taken a shift Well, the best place is probably in a forest where there's all camping. I feel like a beer. You don't really know Yeah, okay, I don't know if there is there a bad place to take one so I don't know who the worst place They're right. There are definitely bad places to take one. I can add to this and I have to anyone else got any shit I found myself taking a bit short one time in a hot tub It's a floater It basically ended the night Oh, yeah, there's no sense of Sorry, you're mad. Just I don't know. Did you not get a common reason? I just stay now. I was happy What about I don't know that's where I didn't flow or sink or was that a ghost pilf is ghost pilf is ghost pilf you would have got away I mean the Venetian hotel in Las Vegas is pretty spectacular like, you know, they have spectacular toilets Have you have you actually you've actually deposited something? I did all strip, you know Venetian and the Blaugeau then Oh, it's brilliant Flash-sharing. That's good. Next one's from Neil pool and he wonders because he sounds his Wonderful publication to weekend. What's the best cure for a sun-borne head now? He seemed to be the only qualified person to talk about this in the fucking room But does anyone have any hints for Neil? Naturally all good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Naturally all good ore egg whites So all that all that sun cream bollocks. Ah, yeah. No, not really awkward. Oh, yeah, that's good So, we know what tribes doing tonight Spots of our yobbly I'm leaving the shaving home tonight over my putting the yogurt Right next one is more a rice Quick one from Pete. Um, he wants now this veggie football related, but we'll chat about anyway I think we did this before. Let's do it again. What's your favorite ever LFC away kit, Flurry? It's the I don't actually think was the away kit. He was the tour kit. It was the 86 weep. Yeah, that was it I think the 85 yellow one. Yeah, I thought it was sweet as well. Yeah, yeah Did you remember the weight one I had to just to treat the strips and show class it was the tour kit I think it was the 86 87 had the crown paint. That's right. It was a tour. I think about what was They were beating the wearing it in the little was cool finally. I think that you used to wear a black shirt today And our cigar if like he was not bad here with the red car and red What do you think the reproduction of that from a few years back? Did you we have enough? Uh, when I did as proud of it. Yeah, no, no, it was it was actually our second kid What did the man united the way victory did? You weren't having a no reproduction. No, it wasn't really wasn't but it was it was inspired by it Yeah, yeah, look at the warrior stuff that's supposed to be inspired. I mean, what's what this light is red one is supposed to be inspired Oh, we worked that out. It looks nothing like it's what it's more about the middle of the tree kit. Oh, yeah It's uh, it's worn by sure downing in this day. I'm really I'm struggling with this with this liver board kit I really I'm struggling. I actually thought it was already when the force saying it's it's very unnatural shape looking at the front of me It's the kit of the league chamiers that so yeah Luckily for the fucking premiering champions badges Yeah, it's lovely with the four blue you're being come on the slave as well In everything behind it that holland and the same sense just way in the same sense for you molly Would you give me a choice here? Lucy is wondering whether you'd like to go skydiving parachuting or potholing? Which would it be for you? Well, we wouldn't be skydiving the parachuting because as I explained before I not create on planes or rights So I like being snug in a little haul so that all Uh, Dave if you had to choose one much, what would you go for? I'm I don't particularly like flying either. So probably but then the idea of God. I don't want to do any of them So I actually have to I'd go cave in I suppose You know those flying suits that make you look like one of those flying squirrels Oh with the uh the yes, yes, I know what you're saying No one's ready to jump outside of a cliff and then the fly that's fucking magic. I won't do that They don't but that you have to test the best suit Yeah, that'll that'll hold you really look as Batman Really you can actually fly in the suit Harry self Uh last one is from Joe and Joe wonders, uh What will happen if Lee Carmel ever allows his shorts to drop below his armpits Have you seen this fucker in this kid? What is the story with Lee Carmel? What is he thinking? I don't know. He's like Humphrey fucking Bogart. I think he must have an exceptionally sharp torso So so he decides to emphasize it by pulling his shorts up even further. I don't know what's going on I see what you're saying, right? He's covering his arsenal. Okay, let's go with that Finally then some admin get on to our lovely shiny content laden website Um at the ridiculously easy to remember www.lfcdaytrippers.com And it features currently a weird two-headed hydra of a Chelsea match review by myself and phil Which we'd like you to read the five times tickets are still available. So get an M It's gonna be a great night regardless of what happens over the next couple of weeks Thanks as always to johnnie rep for our intro music and don't forget to join the ai day tripper event carnage at the harry between 230 and 730 on may the 11th. It's free first come for served. We'd love to see lot to you there Finally your day trippers tonight were molly and a young damey and flood phil casium myself Trev damey and dave thomas Like space police sounds more convincing Yeah Do you think i feel a moray pd that's a he is Space please Well, he's a legend right? 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