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On tonight's show, we're joined on the line by returning guests and champion of positivity size steers. As we celebrate the victory over Fat Sam and his horrific brand of Andy football and delusion, neither of which stop the red men from returning to the summit of the Premier League. Before we go, as ever, we'll engage with listeners' questions. [applause] [applause] I'm joined by friend of the Shell Cy Mooney from YNWA Irish Reds. Tell us about the walk for the 96, which is on this Saturday in Dublin's Phoenix Park. It's open to all. It's a chance for us to show solidarity on us much more than just a walk. So could you feel us in a bit more of a moment? Yeah, basically, all that's planned at the moment is that we're all going to arrange to meet at the Pulse Cross at half two. And then from there on, then, there's designated T-shirts. We've got multi-six T-shirts printed out for the day. And they've been designated to different supporters close over to help to arrange on the day. First, let's kind of wear the 90s, one of the T-shirts that we've got done. It'll be a special day for them because in each one, they'll be represented by people that I've unfortunately do it on the tragedy on the day. So it'll be one or two or a tings planned along the day. So basically, then, from there on, the walk is going to begin at seven minutes past three, which will be designed to when their other games kick off on the same day. From there, then, the walk last 96 minutes, we've been designated for a route that we have to take, that we've gone along, so we've got tracking stuff that takes us in around the 15 acres. So we may, depending on the soils that crowd might take, tulips might take tree laps, but showing basically get it to last for the 96 minutes. On the tone, then, from the walk, what we're going to do is we're going to come back to the pulse cross, where we've got a couple of tings planned, then we've got a couple of songs in that that we're going to play. We've given today, then, we've received a letter from Margaret Aspen from the Hillsborough Family Support Group, and we've also received from Sheila Comme from the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, which they've asked us to read out on behalf of the boat campaigns, just to thank everybody who was toned up on the day. And on the day, we've also got 96 red helium balloons, which, again, it's going to toy in with each person that's been given a t-shirt, and we've also got red LED candles. So each person at the end, after the speech, and so for that and the readings, what they're going to be doing, we're going to be giving them each a red balloon for the end, and at the top of the hill, then, on the pulse cross, we're going to do a minute soil, and then, at the end, and then, when the minute soil ends is over, and at the end of the whistle, we're going to ask each person just to let each balloon off, and then, we're going to play another walk alone, and just take it on from there. Then, to know if you've got them today, then, also, just the last minute, which before I come in, was that the Phoenix Park have donated an Irish oak tree in memory of the 96 people, so they want us to plant that maybe on the day. The details of this sketch are still at the moment, but we should have more about the end of the week, so hopefully that comes off. Well, that sounds like an absolutely beautiful ceremony, and a very pleasant kind of a way to spend the time, so, could you tell us a little bit about the origins of how it came together? Basically, the way it all walked around was that, on our club page, boy in the WA Irish Reds, the Facebook page, we received a message from a girl called Charlie Miloney. Now, in the message, it was basically torn around, says that she's a girl from Liverpool herself. She's from the Anfield area, and the message read was that, there's a campaign going on over on the Easter weekend called Walk for the 96, and basically, that what that is, there's a girl called Cherie Brewster, who was organized to walk from Hillsborough to Anfield, which ends, it starts on the Saturday, and ends on the bank holiday on the weekend, and then, that they stop off at different grounds on the way. So, basically, all Charlie's messages read was that, she wanted to know why he has not such thing being organized in Ireland, about giving that to such support that we have over here for Liverpool. So, basically, what she just said to me, says, "Look, which are clubbed, the fanbase that you have, "that we had a force club that we thought, "the contact that would have gotten impossible, "that you might be able to be able to drum up every support." So, from in that, it just planted a bit of a seed in your head, so, we just torn around, so, maybe we can all organize. So, unfortunately, we had to deal with just trying to pick a location of where we were going to deal, and when we were going to deal. We were started thinking in and around the bank holiday weekend, but then we were started to sound like, "It may or may not walk with people going away with the Easter weekend, "would we get the fanbase coming up?" And then, I just started the idea when the premise of when all the FA announced that the games were all going to be kicking off at seven minutes past three under twelve. Oh, it's hard, that was the ideal situation. Totally, the torn around, so, we could take it from there and stuff. So, the location then, just came about, was just thinking, we said, we just said, "Where is Central and Dublin somewhere that can be held such a walk? "We got such a big crowd and stuff and that, "and then we wouldn't have to get different things involved with closing routes." So, we just taught the idea of the Phoenix Park. So, we approached the LPW then that week, and we got taught them to them. So, basically, they designated us very rude, but they said there's a couple of things that we had to go through in order for the walk to happen. We had to go and get public liability insurance. We had to go and get, like, sewing different letters of indemnity and different force. We had to get nominally forced-eye people, that are official force-eye people and stuff. So, it's now a while, and from there, there's not a lot of hard workers going into it, but it will be water on the day when things come off, and it will, if you wouldn't mind me to have. For sure, I assume so, that because of the nature of the venue for it's the kind of thing that basically, if anyone wants to come and join in and be part of the day, they can do it. Well, we're trying to take away from the thing that it's just going to be a day, all about Liverpool. At the end of the day, this is a football section that we're talking about. It's a football thing, like, at the end of the day, now football is a part of the game and never a turn-off from the game. So, basically, what we're asking is, and we know that there is other lads who support different clubs, they want to, they want to know, can they come on the day? And the answer is, "Definitely. Of course, no matter who you support, "oh, where they come from, we actually need to come out on the day, "show us a part on where we'll have a club called us or is." As I said, it's not just the Liverpool team. Of course, it's a club connection that's connected with the social tragedy, but at the end of the day, as I said, we should now football is a part of the game and that will come home. For sure, it's also about your own solidarity, no matter what your inclination is. So, you get the word out and get people there in the day. That's all we want to do. We're trying to get it out of there as much as we can, that we've been in a couple of papers recently done an interview with Liverpool, like our last weekend, which they're going to do a piece of what we're doing during the week. We're hoping that one or two papers will come up on the day, which we've already advertised in, but what we're trying to deal with, and if anyone does know that can help out, we're trying to get one or two of the TV stations involved, look at us with RTA, our TV tray. The way we look at it is, any time anything comes up about health, but I understand that they will put it on their sports and they will back it. But what we're looking to do is we can find them to come out and give us a better support to show that oil in this trying to do something, to give a better support to the people across the water. So we look, if anyone has any connections or anything that can help, to maybe just give us a shout out, I'll let the lads on the day trippers now, and maybe we can get in touch with them and see if they can do anything first. That's fantastic. Well, you heard the man, if there's anything out there, he can help and I wish he performed, please do. So thank you for coming in, tell us about that. Thank you very much, lads. Right, let's start with our review of West Ham 1 Liverpool 2. We all forecast wins, well, nearly all of us, and we got one up to this year, that's been unheard of. All told, it was an exceptionally professional performance with some real men standing up to an aerial bombardment on the day. So I'm willing to be proud of, if not to savour then, I think we can all agree. Is that right, sir? Yeah, I thought it was one of those games really. I guess that any game against Big Sam's going to be a contrast of the bombardment into the box, isn't it? So we kind of view what to expect, but I thought that the way we defended and the way we dealt with Andy Carroll was really, really good, actually. And I think considering that we've been a little bit dicey, defensively, the season, I think it was a kind of a really good test for us. And it tested both our mentors, also, I think it will be good for us going forward to know that we can deal with those types of situations as well. Those kind of aerial bombardments where we've probably been a little bit weak in the past. Yeah, absolutely. Steve, it's fair to say that that was one too. At least be proud of it, not necessarily enjoying the day. Yeah, absolutely. I was very happy with the defense. I think they stood up to the test quite well. Even with a few headers that Carroll did win, he should be winning. So regardless of how good we are in the air, given his size, we sent him the right way with them. He was playing them back into midfield. We had lots of cover in behind for whenever he was trying to get a flick on. And yeah, yeah, quite pleased with the two center halves, probably less pleased with the full backs. But I'm sure we'll come to that. Yeah, we will, we'll come to that. Yeah, slowly, what do you, what do you, sorry, I don't feel like that's time goes by. It's just every excuse for you to get a song in here. Slowly, tell me what you felt after that game, were you proud of the one? Yeah, it was shocking kind of thing to watch the whole game. It was, it was. Well, we never really got out of second gear. I felt there was no real tempo in our play. The take three points out of that game, it's just, it's all you are looking for at this stage. You're going to get games like this, Jordan this season, that you don't play particularly when you take the three points. And that's the most we can take yesterday. Defensively, I thought the two center halves done very well against Carroll. But I think what Steven was just saying there, the great team was that any knockdowns, when he is going to get a lot of knockdowns, no matter who plays against them, it was the second ball we picked up a lot of the time. And that was what was going to play, the knowledge runs are picked up or anything like that. So we did feed knock scraps of the whole game. And I felt we were comfortable dealing with that a lot of the time. So it's kind of three points and I'm happy. Okay, fair play, nice one. Paul, what would you think of that point of flipping this? It's basically there was a few signs there of some sort of development and reason for us to be happy even if we didn't enjoy it in the day. Yeah, definitely. I think it was down in the calendar, basically, as a real test for the defense because we've struggled there really this year. But it was a great performance from the two center backs. And as we said, any knockdowns were kind of swept up. Like the only time, West Ham's goal just came from referee balls. Like the rest of it we handled really well except for Carroll hitting the crossbar. So yeah, I didn't think we'd defend that well with the question marks that have been over kind of scared of the whole season and then Sacco coming in at the last minute. So you have to be delighted with that really. Phil, I finished up with something that you could be pleased with but it wasn't too enjoyable, fella. No, again, we've done a lot this season. I thought a real game of two halves where again, I suppose it comes down to the fact that we tired them out. If you look at it in a tactical way, we matched them right the way through the first half, dealt with whatever they showed us and tired them out from moving the ball around quicker in the second half. And then we're able to strike in that really crucial time in the second half to get the second penalty. And it felt like that we were building ahead of steam anyway before we got the second penalty. And when the game was wrapped up and really good controlled seeing out with the match, it was something that we probably talked about a lot in the first half of the season where she's not seeing the control around this. It's always real nervey about the ways that team looked composed and it didn't look like there was ever going to be any other result than tier one or three one when we got there with the exception of the carol header, we dealt with everything. Fortune, smile, maybe a bit to get Sacco back into the side because he was exactly what we needed on the day. And all in all, it's a pleasure. Again, it's one of these things that were grown to love or grown to get used to and it's great being a little fun that we're able to do this again. We're starting to trust them. You can trust them to get results as we say going into the biggest match of the season. But in the previous years, we would have been wondering are we going to drop points here? And there's a nervousness that we've had all the way through that we're dropping points. So it's just phenomenal at this stage. And you know, the fourth half was multiple, the second half was everything you wanted to be. I think there was even nearly a little lesson learned from the Sunderland game. You know, Nervy 2-1. We didn't look Nervy at 2-1 yesterday. You know what I mean? And even when the board went open, it was four minutes at a time, I wasn't thinking to myself, oh shit, you know what I mean? Just hold out because I was for the Sunderland game. It was really, you know, I just heat stuff going. Please do not fuck it up here. It's not just on it. It's not because in reality, Sunderland's game plan was to get to the 65th minute, still in the game with ourselves and Troy, you know, to not conceive four or five and give it a bash for the last 24 minutes. Because that's when we brought in our best two players that day. West Ham's was to Troy get something and defend it. In a way, when they get the equalizer before half, they're defending that. They think that that's their result there. All they need to do is defend well the second half. I know what you're saying, but even when we went 2-1 up, we controlled the game from there as well. You know, that thing of just constantly being on the front foot, we never looked on the back foot. Even when they brought on Carleton Cole, they decided to try and start going route one or more directly. Route zero with the rear. Route minus four, whatever you want to call it. It's impossible to go more directly. They haven't invented the way more directly. I think against Sunderland, when they met the substitutions early on in the second half, they changed the system and the story they played. And I think that's why we struggled a little bit, because they put Kay in there, and he calls Jared all kinds of problems in there, because Jared didn't want to make a title, and Kay is good with his feet. He's a lot of defense. Yeah, yeah. Oh God, I'm not believing Joe's different. I don't know. He goes there. He goes there. He's going around. He said a look for a hook and a kibber. But first time he gets the ball, he's going to plant an A, get it out, and get across in. Plant B is, get it out, and get across in. Plant C is, get it out, and get a fucking cross in. And that's all he's doing. Once we coped that, it's not that sad, I'm not the favourite boys. It's the same book. I think I played into our hands a bit, just like with a bit before, we got the second panel. They, like, allodys kind of made a few switches. They made it look like they were settling for a one-all, and I think they kind of struggled after that kind of reassess and go after us again when we went to one-up. So it's sort of the enjoyment that we got from C and Sam's team lose. The team selection was kind of slightly governed by injuries with Taco coming back, but it was a hell of a return to the first 11-skirtle as well, did a lot of carol bashing all the way through the game. It looked pretty dominant. It was a hell of a display, but it was two-centre backs. Wasn't it? Yeah, but that question, I've kind of put a sort of skirt sort of times this season, because he's, I think he, you know, kind of earlier this season, I thought it was a bit of a disaster waiting to happen at times, but God, he's kind of really grown into the last 10 games or so. I think he's been absolutely immense. You know, both, both going forward, I mean, six goals from the centre back is a really, really good return, but defensively he's been a rock as well, and, and Sacco came in yesterday, and, you know, that's, that's what we paid, you know, the, the 18 million four. I mean, he was calm, composed, his passing was absolutely brilliant yesterday, Sacco. He's kind of, you know, he's, he's, he's just unwraffable. He gets, he's able to get his foot on the ball, and he's, he's always can pick out, you know, a Liverpool player, and I think he's just, he's going to be a great centre back for us to think, Sacco, but just, just a point as well about, I think sometimes this season, I think people have rightly pointed out to the flair and the, and the, and the big wins that we've had this season, and that's really been like the dominating characteristic of the team, but I'll tell you what, this team really knows how to grind out a result as well. If you go back to like, you know, the villa game, where we were absolutely shocking, but we still able to get a draw out of it, you know, kind of Cardiff, Sunderland yesterday, you know, when we've learned how to grind out a game, and that, that, you know, mixed in with the flair that we have as well, you know, it's, it's a formula for champions, it really is. And, you know, how, how we've all of a sudden come across this formula, I guess it's open to a lot of debate, you know, as Dr. Professor Peter's had an impact, you know, Brendan Rogers has got to take a huge amount of credit as if the players, but one of the, you know, I actually quite like seeing us grind out a win sometimes, because it's, you can't win every game, kind of four or five nil, and you do need to have that in, in your locker, and yeah, we did it brilliantly again yesterday. Yeah, it's a very good point that, that's why makes there Paul is reassuring, isn't it, to win like that sometimes? Yeah, I think in previous seasons, we live last that game, or at most drawn, especially with the, like, the ref kind of fucking is over, like you did, but yeah, I think it is something that we've shown throughout the season, like the Fulham game at Craven College, where, like, we did our best to throw it away, but we just kept coming back for more. It's, it's just something that's good to see. Yeah, and Steve O'Sacko, you wouldn't have any nerves about that man continuing, and as Si said, it's distribution, which is something that's maybe not associated with him readily, it's, you think of meeting a physicality, but that kid's distribution is wonderful. Yeah, no, absolutely. I suppose I think the way the game panned out yesterday, no, maybe it was because Saka was in there, and Carole decided to put himself on Skirtle, but I think had we had Agar in there yesterday, we probably would have got the same result with the way Skirtle played. I thought he was as much credit as Saka deserves to come straight back in and having not had a run of games and whatever, I thought Skirtle was immense. He attacked every ball as though he wanted to murder Andy Carole as well as get the ball, and it was great to see it's what it needed, because Carole didn't have that domineering effect that he sometimes can't have. But yeah, Saka on the ball, excellent. You know, it's great to have somebody that when, you know, we always used to think Agar is our ball play in center half, he's the one that's going to step out with it now. You can see a little bit more confidence in Skirtle doing that, he did it a couple of times yesterday, and it's great to know that if Agar isn't going to be in the start in 11, that you're bringing an absolutely brilliant player in, like Saka on, and you know, it's his place to keep now, you know what I mean? I think he has to stay in for the city game regardless of whether Agar's fit or not. That's an interesting point, Phil, is that the way you'd say that Saka's in there, and Andy holds a shirt? As I said, that's what I'd expect most of the time, there's no reason why he should be put back out of town, no matter what kind of farm Agar was on previous. And when you strip up a partnership like that, it really should be all about he'll be able to control the jersey. Like, the last thing you want to do is see the likes of Saka command, and just be put out because Agar's fit again. You know, it was excellent yesterday, because you said there's distribution, everything you've done, you didn't put a foot wrong the whole game, so keeps the jersey as fair as well. Let's go all over the pack now. He's an 18 million pound player as well, he's not a kid that's just coming from the academy. He's a player that we've bought because it's something that struck me yesterday. There's another winner, and if that makes any sense, if you look at Turic and people who know how to win a championship, and only when you're looking at it now, you realize how many people are in that team are born winners. It's something we lacked a lot of over the last while, and it's something that we have in abundance now. And it's probably one of the main reasons why we are where we are. It's a mental toughness, a mental strength, to tell each other that when things aren't going wrong, not to put the head down and think, shit, that's what's done with. We think there's still loads of time left here to go and get a goal or two goals or whatever we need to get ourselves back in that winning position. There's a belief in themselves, and there's a mentality there now that we are going to win. - Yeah, if only silver had a written something like that recently. - So it was that you're, I didn't really judge me as well. - Website joke. - This is, that was the noble of the articles. A road was around like everything that's been done. It's the effort of small pieces now that's made the big jigsaw puzzle come as far as it has. And we'll talk about in the summer, the next level, the next step with this team, how do we make this team better again? But just looking at the two boys, we talked about it a few times in here saying, what does a skeleton and sack of partnership look like? Do you lose that bit on the ball because Agra's out of the team or not? And listen, Sacco, I saw you rightly pointed out he was immense on the ball. His passing is phenomenal, even though he looks on orthodox in the way he plays. And Skirtle, for the abuse he got before Christmas and in general from the fanbase in general, like the rest of the team, he's been a player transformed since Christmas, very rarely putting a foot wrong. And he had the measure of Andy Carlin. If somebody was to say to you five months ago, Skirtle was going to boss Andy Carlin all over the pitch. You would have said not likely, you know, and it's to his credit that Carle tried to focus his game on Skirtle to intimidate him, to over pair him. And Skirtle just bashed him. And basically took Carle out of the game for the majority of the actual match, barred ahead or onto the bar. It was sort of the Andy Carlin having to punch things out of goalkeeper's hands, like a big guy player. You know, it's a measure. And that said to have partnership, but as Damien said, that has immense potential. Now, again, we're back to the squad thing. You know, we'll be talking about Colo later on, but there's options there. You can play it a different way. You can pick courses for courses, and it's just great. Like, Sacco is a leader. You know, we've got leaders all over the pitch. It's just great. Well, you're out to dip in into the next topic there. You might as well stay on talking about depth. And we may have it at center half. And we knew we had it from the start of the season. But we're following Johnson, neither of them were exactly tremendous. Johnson got shown up by sure downing and let's just be honest, that's fucking shocking. Finally, we've got a boy past a lot too. It's one area where we don't have a lot of depth. The fallbacks for me had a very open down game. I talked to a very poor deforest half. I couldn't understand why Johnson stood off and doubting so much and just let him get the ball and run of them. And because the only thing that Danny can do is get the ball and run at you. And after one of the players we saw at the weekend as well. But like, you don't invite them into the game. And we invited him into the game and let him look like a player. As soon as we got tied to him, as soon as he started pressing, he didn't want to know. He disappeared out of the game like the player that he is, because he's got no good for a challenge at all. Flanagan was an interest of him. He did a lot wrong. He also did a lot right. And he's just one of these players. Like, again, he wins the penalty that wins as the match. You know, he gets up the pitch. He gives you're going to get your heart. He's an excellent squad player. He deserves a place in the squad. But he's going to have bad games. And if we had a competent left fool, we may have changed that in the game. You know, it's just one of those things. I wouldn't break until much. We won the game. The goal that they got doesn't really come from an hour and a half. But they did look the weaker part of the side on somewhere. So is that harsh to criticize the full backs for a patty performance from both of them? Yes, it's weird to think that we are where we are this season without our first choice centre back, our left backs in Jose Enrique. I mean, we've kind of had players filling in there all season that have done, you know, have kind of all contributed to different kind of levels. I mean, I guess if you look at it from the perspective yesterday that West Ham what had maybe won the shot on target during the entire game, I think collectively the defence defence did quite well. And I think that the full backs, you know, they probably need their defensive best yesterday. But they do, they both offer us a kind of an outlet going forward. I think, I don't know, it's probably, I think yesterday, you know, they probably did give, you know, they weren't, probably didn't give us enough, quite enough cover and downing probably got on the ball a little bit too much. But I probably wouldn't say that they were they were shocking yesterday. I think that they, you know, it's just one of those games where Johnson wasn't his best and and Frano is still a little bit raw sometimes and he gets beaten a little bit too easily. And I think that the two or three times that happens in the game tends to be really highlighted. And there was a couple of times yesterday where he's really, you know, really beaten quite easily. But I mean, collectively the defence did really well yesterday and it limited West Ham to not much at all in front of go. That's fair enough. Steve, 27 crosses Liverpool face yesterday as opposed to eight which Liverpool put in. Is that a direct comment on our full backs performance or is it just a direct comment on the way at West Ham played? We saw too much Stuart Downey basically. Yeah. And none of Matthew Edington as I predicted. Now I think there's, I think there's a bit of bold to be honest with you. Yeah, there is. See, you're not retired. I don't know, but I made a ball over the last Monday, so it doesn't matter. No, it's a bit of bold. You know, I predicted here last week that I felt West Ham would go with or not would go with, but would have a very tough physical middle of the park that they try and play with. That's all they have really. They don't have the creative flair players that we have to play in that position. So I suppose, and we heard Brendan later in the week saying that Alan would have come in had an up in for an injury. And, you know, and I think he, you know, he probably got the text and the new one. He knew it. He knew I was right. We're all just going, I want to say it. I can't keep on saying Roger's and Brendan, Roger's a sweet, gonna be a friend. You gotta be honest, mate. He's a great friend. He's a great friend. He's a great friend. No, in all seriousness. Yeah, you know, I had a, I had a bad feeling about the fallbacks for this game. I think they probably played worse than I thought they were going to. I think, listen, as Phil said, you know, Flanner just had a poor game. That's that's fair enough. That's easy young man. He's going to have ups and if we're able to accept the ups and downs that Sterling or the team you're going to have, we have to accept, accept them from Flanagan as well. He's never going to be our first, put it this way. If we go into next season with Flanagan, as our first choice fallback in either position, we have a problem. And that's not slightly young man. That's just saying that we haven't addressed areas that if we want to step on and be competent at champions league level and retain a top four place next season, there are areas that desperately need to be strengthened. Jesus, that's a, that's a big shed, Lillie, would you come in behind that in terms of squad depth and same final going into next season? I think as a place in the squad, what I'll say about Johnson and Flanagan is both of them are very good kind of systems, whereas in terms of they'll talk around as the fallback and it looks like it hasn't been the 1v1, neither am I right. And sometimes we'll try to isolate them when the 1v1 and if they get caught with 1v1, more than nothing most of the time, they'll get done that they're very easily beaten on 1v1. I couldn't figure, like when the game started, I was going, what the fuck is the army doing over at Flanagan? And he just pretty seemed to roast him a lot in the fourth half. It was like they wanted the physicality of the army and they could provide one of their direct balls to him as well. Classic Sam Dawson. Exactly, but in fact, credit to the army, he knows the television cameras and he actually, you know, did very well there was a flank. Yeah, absolutely. But a lot of the time the 2Lads will do a good job of fallback, but in 1v1 situations, they do show up. And if you're looking towards Sam's leg next year, you want to play it, I can do about it. That can be quality in a 1v1 and also be fit into the system quite easily. You know, at the moment the 2 fallbacks can only do one. And that's just to go back. I'm not slating Flanagan there, just so we're clear on that. I absolutely think he has a place in the squad and I think next season if we're going to have 55 games or thereabouts, including the Champions League run, he's going to play a lot of games, and I'm not going to be worried about them going into any of them. But what my point is, if he is our first choice, fallback, then I believe we've failed to address an area that needs to be looked at. I think Flanagan in my mind would very well be a Liverpool John O'Shea. Yeah, absolutely. And that he can come in, he'll do a really good job for you, cover either side. You know, we'll struggle when there's a better quality fallback to retain a forced 11. Like your name and your force, but you will have no problems if you see a name on the team sheet because he's going to come in and he's going to play 24/40 games a season and he's going to do the job for you. And you need players like that. There's no question about it. Paul, Amanda came into the mix there at the back and had certainly an effect of some sort, it was Colo. He came on, he just sticky, he told everyone to calm down and I don't know, maybe other people were buying a bike, he was just laughing me head off. I've been laughing head off. I've been laughing head off of Colo since he arrived at the club for good and bad reasons. He's just great value. But were you buying him as a settler on the day? Colo telling people to calm down and set up the house. He came in, he had like, I think you got his head on one cross, a really good clear and header. But then he had his kind of Colo moment where he nearly chipped him in your legs from your own. He said like he's like, you know, if you're having a game of Astro and someone pulls out and like somewhat of hell goes, oh, my uncle will play. I guess that kind of this kind of Toby Vella comes through and now you've done it. You don't know what to think really. What's this for? And the ball, like the ball comes off him at all weird angles. Like, you kick the ball at a tori a hundred times, it'll come off from a hundred different ways. You don't know how hell it's going to bounce on him. Well, he's talking a great game. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but he's eating, anybody's in heels, he has to come out. He wants it a hundred times. Give it to me on me here. You can't help but look on what he's scared of shit. Oh, yeah, as well. Sorry, how calm were you when you saw Colo come in? Did it make you breathe easier for the last one? Yeah, I mean, I was to a Colo's just brilliant. I mean, I think he's, I remember, I think I'd tweeted at the beginning of the season saying that he might be the signing of the season and it probably sounds a little bit, a little bit daff now. But I don't think you can underestimate the influence he's got on the squad. I mean, you can imagine him at Melwood every single day. The guy's one, he's won the Premier League with Arsenal and City. So he's been there and done it. And you just feel that he's, you know, he's got a real influence on the team. When he comes down and telling people to calm down and, you know, it's just such a character. And you know, he's got that kind of, I guess, that mentality that, you know, that you can't place a value on, really. He's a bit, I think when he's when he's on the ball, he's one of those players where you're not quite sure what he's going to do. And I don't think the two having goals, the school this season, have really helped, really helped with that. But he's just brilliant value. And I think he's a great character to have around the club. And if, you know, if we do, you know, if we can win the league this season, then I do think that his presence in the squad is going to, you know, is going to have been a factor towards, towards, I believe, really. Yeah. Yeah. So let's move it on up the field a little bit and take a look at the midfield and how they did. You've got to start with Stephen Jared, who for the second after season has been just, frankly, ridiculous show immense bottle and ball pens again. He's really got the bit between the eighties. In fairness, you could say almost pushed Henderson in terms of his energy levels. Never mind performance. The last few weeks, I've over lived since Christmas when we all questioned Stephen Jared's role in this team. And when he moved into this so-called defense of midfield, we all questioned him. Everybody questioned him. He struggled in the first game, a tailboarder. The last 12, he's being phenomenal. He's absolutely being phenomenal. For a man who supposed to become the end of his career, his walkway has been excellent, his co-verness being excellent. And most of all, his passing, that pass for Suarez goal is for the penalty that does not many players in the world can pick that pass. That's 60, 70 yards on the money between the families. There's not many people can do that. And he's still picking up all the defensive duties. Henderson, I thought, was excellent. Just walk the subs off. I was a little bit worried about Coutinho starting in there. We thought we wouldn't have needed a tour player in there from the start. We couldn't write that he went with Coutinho over and it was just out from the beginning. But I don't think Coutinho offered us anything yesterday. Anything at all. But got my teacher out. He was just phenomenal yesterday. And he has been for the last few weeks. Yeah. Steve always, he's a man with something in sight. And he's a very driven human at the moment, doesn't he? Absolutely. Yeah. It's no question about it. You can see it in every performance. How much he wants this. How much it means to a man. I know that that's probably a very cliché driven in the sense of how much he wants and he wants to lift the lead title. But genuinely, like just even after the game, there's just a look of determination on his face of putting next. Let's have you. Well, that's it, Steve. Well, there's not a lot of shit talk about hunger and how hungry you are. Look, that's fair enough. And you can't argue that one. Let him in weeks. Let's have a steak in May the 15th. Let's be honest and have a look at the guys eyes. Look at the wide eyes celebration. It's it's means more than ever. Yeah. And why wouldn't it? You know, he realizes that next year, Man City, you know, he did Chelsea will probably go out and spunk a ton of money in the summer. Probably should be back at the summer again. And I'm not saying we can't challenge with that, but he doesn't have to sit there in August and think about what's going to happen over the next 38 games. And, you know, he knows he's got through a season relatively unscathed. I know he had a few weeks out, but, you know, he's looking at this going five games now. And this is my chance to add that one elusive trophy that I that you know, it's it's it's holy graham during this whole time. He's been sitting on a yellow card one yellow card and he's missing two games. He's been sitting on that and how he's managed himself through these games, being that kind of emotional being that aggressive planet at the hoy level he has. And he's managed to stay clear of the yellow cards that has been just fantastic. I think he should be given big credit as well for learning a role over the course of the season, because he wasn't a natural defense midfielder. But I personally doubt that he'd ever be able to play a defensive midfield role. And he's proved to prove me wrong anyway, because it's it's phenomenal in terms of the level that he's brought himself up to. And in that defensive midfield role, he knows when to press of all, he knows where to sit now. We're not talking about, oh, he goes AWOL and he lets players run past him. He's tracking all those runners. Since he got that injury and had that spell out of the team, he's looked at different player again, since he's come back from the injury. It's almost as though, and maybe it did happen, but Rogers took him aside and said, look, when you come back into the team, you're going in as more defensive midfield players. The whole thing, you're going to link the back four to the midfield. I'm going to put two runners around you. You can't do it. I've had a good look at this now. You can't do the running that I expected to do beforehand. I want you to screen that back four, start looking at players the way they deal with. Look at other players. Look at players around your age who've managed to play this role as they went on, and I'll put as much energy as I can be so I just pick up all the other stuff that you would have done. And he's obviously looked at the team when he's out injured. He's developed faith in those players around them, which is a huge thing in the way Gerard plays. He's not trying to do everyone's job anymore. He's just doing his job, but him just doing his job in that midfield, air midfield functions as a perfect unit. It was interesting when Lucas came on that Lucas was up high up the pitch again, and he was more involved in the final tour than Gerard was for the whole game. And in fact, it's his past that leads to the penalty. He splits two defenders, Flanagan gets in on the overlap. A championship winnish, Lucas with a defence-splitting past of Flanagan, legendary. Go back to Manu Leiter, it was Fletcher's defence, split and past for John O'Shale. Yeah, it was. But if you were listening, if you were listening to this now back in time in August, you'd think this is a fucking comedy party. It's a testament though to Roger's and to Gerard, I think in the sense that if you look at when Benite has realised he couldn't play central midfield. And he was probably had very strong opinions of the fact that he felt he could. Stevie Gerard did. So Benite has put him out wide for us then played him off Torres, because he put him in effective positions that wasn't in the middle of the park. And for Roger's to be able to spot that maybe now was the time when he could play that role, be it because of the injury to Lucas, whatever it may have been. And for Stevie to actually go and have the discipline to not, he would have been very easy for Gerard to use his influence, use his dominance in the team as the captain, as a stalwart, as being the fact that he is Mr Liverpool, to just say, "That's not how I want to play." He could have done that and he could have thought. That probably happened with how it's an mechanical thing. I would think so. I would think so. And listen, we don't know. We're speculating. And but I think it's a widely taught of piece of speculation that he just said, "I want to play central midfield," and then went, "I'm going Stevie." So, you know, from the front. That's exactly how he sounds. Listen, I talked to him a lot on the phone. No, but in all fairness, Roger has said, "This is how we're going to do it. If this is going to work, that's what you need to change your game to." And he's gone and done it. And if we lift that trophy, it's as much down to that man as it is down to Louis Suarez' goals. Just on Damien's aggregate point about Henderson. I thought he had a rubbish force tough. I thought he ran the game in the second half. I thought he was pretty anonymous in the fourth half. In fact, I thought the whole midfield unit, outside of Gerard, I didn't think he'd continue on Henderson's function at all. I thought when Henderson went off, the midfield began to function because he wasn't trying to press and call for everything that was going on. I'm going to statch it here. I'm going to statch it. OK, he's statted us away there. Jordan Henderson attempted 80 passes, which is more than any other player on the pitch, and was successful at 94% of them. Which means that his second half must have been fucking spectacular. But he... Yeah, he did 75% for that. He had a pass completion rate of 127% in the second half. Two are told for his third first half. That's a quarter of people's whilst. Yeah, that was fair enough. So, Jordan Henderson, how did you feel he'd play in the day? And our people is finally starting to take notice and give him the credit he deserves for being quite a wonderful footballer all around. Yeah, I think it's Henderson. Yeah, I agree. He probably wasn't as effective as he has been in the first half. But second half, he steps up and really dominated the midfield. And, yeah, just on Gerard, I think he's lost 10 games. He's in with the shout-out for our player of the season, I think. He's been absolutely immense. And he's really stepped up and it's the leadership as well. I think it's such an important thing. He's always had that ability. It's kind of like drag the team through to get a result. And it's so hungry. You can see it in pretty much everything he does at the moment. And he really, really wants this. And I think he's just been absolutely immense. And I don't know, it's weird, isn't it? You don't believe in fate, but you think to yourself, like, there's a script here to be written, isn't there? I mean, Stevie's reached in the end of his career. He's never won a Premier League title. He's stayed with his boyhood club for his entire life. And with five games away from winning the Premier League, in possibly his penultimate season or, you know, there or thereabouts. And there's a script to be written, isn't there? And you just think, can you imagine that Steve and Gerald lifting the Premier League trophy at Anfield against Newcastle? It would just be absolutely incredible. I think a lot of people are dreaming about that, aren't they? So I'm friends. Yeah. Yeah, Paul, can you maybe start talking about some of the incidents that I suppose we should start looking at, rather than necessarily just personnel? It was penalty, Paul, wasn't it? And we had one. Talk me through the incidents yourself, what you felt about them. Well, the first penalty was Stonewall. The second one is the one that's caused all the kind of all the aggro, basically, on Twitter. You can see both sides of that second one, actually, because the keeper does get a touch on the ball before he takes Flanagan out. So you could say that he's got a little touch on the ball, but the ball was still there to be played by Flanagan, and the keeper took him down. I would go fucking mental if that was given against Liverpool. Yeah. The first one, when I saw it in real time, I said that it wasn't a penalty. And then you could kind of see where people were coming from with the save, but yeah, I'd got mad if that was given against us. So I got a laugh at the fact that it was given forward on. Hard luck I did with storage and all traffic. Hardly. Phil, you've strong opinion about what it is to the penalty or not. Yeah, and I'll come with it from the goalkeeper's perspective in it, because it's not like you don't feel it. I'm like, yeah, no, but when I looked at it in real time, I said that's a penalty, not the initial save. It's because he makes the motion with the two hands to his legs. If he takes his hands away, there's no penalty given there. It's just the end of the save, the fact that he put his hands onto Flanagan's legs, it's only a fraction of a second, but I know from playing the game yourself, when you do that, you're expecting the referee to blow. And he didn't have to. He didn't have to. He'd made the save. He could have pulled his hands away and not would have been given. Now, the one thing that's been missing is the storage actually finishes the ball. Flanagan gets a little flick in, soid and the storage knocked it into the net. I thought he hit the side now. Was it soid now? Yeah, he hit the side now and he didn't actually score. Well, that's what Jared was saying afterwards. It was basically the referee that was playing the advantage and he saw the storage missed. And then... Okay, so the referee sees the hands to the legs. And in my opinion, it's only a fraction of a second. He sees the move to the hands to the legs. And that's enough. Because he has the judging of what he sees. And if I was the referee looking at it and I see the hands going to the legs, that's a penalty for me. It's a stupid move with a goalkeeper. Yeah. Floody, Andy Carroll's assault, which led to their goal. How in the name of Jesus does that goal get a word? It's ridiculous. It's very frustrating as well. Because all referees want their lawyers not to help them out and dig them out. The lawyers want to spot it. He calls it. The referee shouldn't question the material of the room and that situation. The lawyers might have obviously spotted it. He was determined over the moment. No, he was determined. Yeah, you could take the whole conversation. He was going to get changed to the lawyers. The more in there, that shouldn't be the referee's job. Like, if it's a kind of 50-50 thing and one of them is not quite sure, then boy means he has to make a decision. But we put your flag up and we call them over. I won't even go over yet. I won't even go over just, you know? Yeah, it was no need to. Like, I would love to know what did the lawyers want to see? Like, how, at the end of the game, did they get called up in front of the referee's committee or whatever, and they're asked to explain the decisions? Like, we aren't, we told, or other people told it. They should be asked to come out and explain. So, at the end of it's say, the lawyers are in the official's mail and say, well, what did you see? What did you call them over? Referee, what did you call it? What did you say? We couldn't explain away like a lot of these contentious issues. Like, it's, it's my body. That, that should have never been given the, you know, they've clearly felt. I think the thing is with that as well. It's, if you think about it, you've got the, the linesman's in line with the, with the ball. So he can see Carol jump leading with his, his arm. He can see Carol's hand hit Minulay in the face. You don't stick your flag up unless you see a fail. There's no other reason to stick a flag up. They're absolutely none at all. So the linesman's seen it, seen the fail. The referee can see the back of Carol. So he can't see the contacts. All he sees is the ball drop out of, of Minulay's, uh, Minulay's hands. So he can't see because he's looking, looking on from the back of Carol. So the linesman's seen it clearly. The ref goes over an incredibly, it's just ridiculous, a complete comedy of errors that, that the ref thinks that he can overrule a fail that the linesman's clearly seen that he couldn't see. It's just a bizarre situation and, uh, yeah, they should really try and explain it. I don't think they can explain it. It was just ridiculous. It's a clear fail, but I said to the lads, I was disappointed that Minulay chose to try to catch that in such a crowded area. And I think it was probably said to him at half time as well because the first time he had to deal across in the second half, he punched the clear in a very similar circumstance. If Minulay chose to punch that one there, that goal doesn't happen and we don't have this debate around it. But the referee got it so wrong. When it does happen, the referee is there to make the decision and he got it wrong. And to be fair, Phil, as well. He did actually successfully catch it and got it knocked out his hand. Yeah, sorry, got his head grilled and then got his paw pulled down, you know, in fairness. Yeah, and the one thing I'd say is, if we go back to last season and we think back to, I think it was the League Cup game against West Brom when Brad Jones was playing the goal, and Yamasolds and Elbow, Brad Jones in the face for a goal that was given against us because Brad Jones went to catch the ball as well. One of the things you're taught is, you know, if you're in a crowd in a penalty area, to avoid anything like that happen, don't take the chance. Especially when you're coming to other players, et cetera, it just points to the thing clear. Get a good punch and I've got plenty of distance and you can get yourself set again. I'm glad he, I'll tell you one thing though, for Emmanuelay's credit. He was coming for the stuff and we needed him coming for the actual balls, which was actually, it was good to see. It was refreshing, yeah. Yeah, and he did really well in the second half. The first time they got a corner, they did the exact same thing to see what was going to happen. And he was, I think he had more pressure on that time and he got a great punch and a carol is in front of us. He sends it out of the box. Yeah, and he sends it clear out of the box. Is that the basic coaching, as Amanda being on the sharp end of a lot of it, to come out and just get rid, to clear as quickly as you can? Because it runs completely opposite to anything you've learned playing, getting football or anything. We've remembered maybe in the past where you come and you're strangling, you claim the ball. Well, my own learnings on it was that the decision you make is that if you've got more than four or five bodies in front of you, or if you're coming through a crowd of bodies, you're better off punching, because anything can happen on the way down when you catch the ball. It's to come down that-- It takes the bounce off ahead. It's your fault. Yeah, your arms can be around the player, it can be knocked out of your hands that way, which is, and then it's dropped in the box. And if it's in the six-hour box, you're in the auto-water trouble. If you punch the ball clear, Reyna was brilliant. The one thing that Reyna was brilliant in those situations, he used to be a phenomenal punch of the ball, and that's how we used to deal with-- What could we punch the halfway line? Yeah, and, you know, you punch it clear, you get set up and you deal with the next ball that comes in. Like, but again, I'd say, just on it, I'd say, it's a clear foul. I'm not saying it wasn't a foul. I'm just saying, and I was going to refresh and see that the decision-making was spot on once he was asked the exact same question within five minutes at a restart. I was saying I was alluded to there, though. I don't know how, you know, I suppose they want to just forget about it and get on with it. But how a referee hasn't had to come out and make a call and why that decision was made, how it was, is beyond me. Like, they're miked up now. Why couldn't it not be-- I know it's all hypothetical stuff, but why could they not be used in the same way that the rugby refs are, in the sense of being able to hear what's being community. What was worse? I don't know, so if you weren't familiar, what was worse was that you were actually showing the replay in the big spin? Yeah, it's not very interesting. But like, here's the question. You can't use that, like that. I didn't know that, I know that. But as I said, the linesman puts up the flag. Now, none of us have ever been out of match where there's a contentious cold. The linesman puts up the flag and the ref comes off and goes, "That's wrong." He goes, "I know, fair play, good shelter." That was-- Yeah, I'm only having a call. I was just waving. That's the same as I was on. I mean, it doesn't happen. He's put up the fucking flag because there's something wrong. And for the ref to come over and go, "What's the story?" And he goes, "There's a foul on the keeper there." I think he's had the ball taken away from him or he's taken a hit and he's dropped the ball. And the ref goes, "Ah, sure, fuck it." Well, in that instance, the referee is obviously believes that he has a better ankle on it. I was just sorry that there wasn't the challenge. Wrongly. But that's what-- That's obviously what's happened there. But Minneley has taken it cleanly. Fucking-- It's going to take a colossal hit to make him drop it. He has taken it and then he gets clattered. Did anybody else love the slow mo? Yeah. We've never shown it. And he gets banged in the right cheek and the last one just goes, "Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa." And it's just gone, "Yes, fucking rocky preview there." It wasn't even a big dig, but he must have the most flappy jaws in the-- The gals stank a ballad I saw, didn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Carol's flying to the air like superman with his hand there. Like, he's not even looking at the body's arms. Like, give the keeper a slap here. It's not his first hand goal of the season. Yeah, a team goal, the team goal. Kevin Davies was sitting in a hole goal. Oh, God. I remember the good audience. He was lagging his hand. I didn't score any, but I used to whack the keepers out of him. [laughter] I was the best. According to-- Sorry, one. Oh, no, I got to say, according to Jonathan Pierce, there's nothing wrong with it anyway, so-- Oh, yeah. That was unbelievable. Yeah, I was listening to that last night. Couldn't not get my head around. Even when he had the chance to go back and kind of correct himself, he didn't. Remarkable stuff. And so I would keep you on there and talk to us a bit, Luis Suarez, and how he could have had two separate shades for gold this season if it wasn't for the woodwork. God, every time you think you run out of superlatives about Suarez, he goes and does something else. He's just so unpredictable. I think that's the thing with him, isn't it? I mean, in both those situations, you probably wouldn't have thought shot with you. So-- And he somehow managed to pull out a shot and nearly scored on two occasions. And it's that unpredictability that he's got that just makes him one of the best players in the world. I think he's just incredible. And I think that it's not-- It's also that he just scores different types of golds as well. You've got-- If you looked at someone like Torres when he was at Liverpool, there was a type of gold that he used to score a lot of, which was kind of like, I guess, breaking behind the defense, using his pace, but Suarez. It doesn't matter where he is on the pitch. He's always looking to score. Whether it's a chip, a header, in the six yard box. Against Norwich, what was he, 40 yards out? He must just be an absolute nightmare to play against. I mean, if you think-- You can imagine that the city defenders next week, that, you know, they're going to be thinking to themselves, shit, I've got no idea what Suarez is going to do today. We've probably got in storage a striker, who's probably a little bit more, you know, I guess, I guess a stereotypical striker in terms of what you might expect. And and storage does what he does brilliantly, but the unpredictability of Suarez is just something that I can't remember ever seen from a Liverpool player before. I think that's a very good show. Paul, would you agree with that unpredictability from Suarez, and maybe lead us into a little chat about storage afterwards? Yeah, that game had kind of both sides of Suarez's game, because there was the box office stuff, the two chips. The one with the outside was absolutely ridiculous. Like, when he went for it, I was like, what the fuck you doing? Oh, my God! But then, you know, you know, in the end, at the end, we're in. West Ham were fucking the ball into our box, and we were clearing it. And like, the ball just stuck to Suarez every time. Like, he's like, he's, like, he's, like, a player of that quality, to start scrapping like a league two player, like, you know, with the defenders and getting the better them that way. It's unbelievable. Storage a little bit of a lot of data, to say at least. Yeah, yeah, he was quiet enough. He snatched a few chances, but I thought he played as the kind of central striker, you know, in the area that West Ham were really trying to clog up. So I think he was always going to struggle really for kind of to kind of get much space in the game, really. But he was involved. He took it down a few times and got involved in a few passing moves. But yeah, I think they did a decent enough job clogging him out of it. What I liked about Storage, though, was that he still got chances. He didn't take them, and I'd rather have his off day where we went to one against West Ham. So that he's on his game when it comes to the city, because he tends to have the bit between us to eat when it comes to the city as well, given that that's the club he came through. Yeah, it was funny. It wasn't the after his initial couple of shots, Phil, that went going over. The last ever he had was kind of a half volley. It was a real percentage shot, wasn't it? I remember looking at it and going, "No, I'm not bottling." It's the wrong word, but it was real, I'm going to make sure this goes on target. He just didn't have that conviction he normally does. No, but that can be just on the day. And I think Storage and Suarez have proved on the occasional days of the season, where they haven't actually scored that, you know, when it comes down, they're just trying to get the shots on target, because they know eventually if they start getting them back on target, they're going to score goals. He's allowed it, because we have Suarez, who's a genius, beside him. What we were saying, the chip shots, but he's now playing for handball penalties. He gets the first one, because the defender just goes, "I have to put it in. I have to put it in." It was no reason for putting his hand out, but he was so shit himself that Suarez is around him. But yet again, it's down. You know the way we were talking last week about how Suarez likes to kick out the vendor's feet, and watch them either trip, or f*cking nuts them, or just cause a penalty. He also likes to put that ball a foot and a half up in the air as he goes around them. He flicks it up and around them, knowing that it's a reaction. It's a "Oh shit, I'll stop him going." But he's just a sneaky little bastard. I'm delighted that he's our sneaky little bastard, because if he played for anybody else in the premiership, he would be my most hated player by a country mile. You will just be going, you horrible pucks. And not only are you brilliant as a football, but you won't stop running, and annoying the bollocks of our defenders. And now you're chasing our striker back up to the f*cking corner, flag, what are you at? You know, he's just... He's the only person I love. He's the only player to make extra time in every batch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he demands a pass this knee in fairness to like a proper pass. He'd do your f*cking head in. Yeah, let's just have a half boom and apply it. Oh, you f*cking head. It's just constant movement. It's impossible to mark. He's left, he's right, he's back, he's front, he's just everywhere. Because that thing he was saying about the hand wall, the way he does that, he kind of catches the fander, because the only place he can do it is he can shift his feet kind of within a couple of inches fairly quickly. We can't adjust his body quickly, you know? So that's what a hands natural reaction is to mopling. You can't really stop it. And it's that brilliant bit of skill that he does. It's just great. Can you imagine who is Suarez when he was about eight, and they were trying to get him to stop at PE? It's time to go and do your English class, or your maths class. And he's just there f*cking running, doing the hurdles. Just running around f*cking slamming basketballs. Everyone just didn't give a sh*t, just, "I read over the desks. I'm going up. I'm going to tackle the teacher." No, it's time for geography now, and f*cking running around. Give me the chalk, give me the chalk. Yeah, it's a magic basket. We should really acknowledge the support on the day. I've been the first to moan about it, because Anfield has been quite a times over the season. Tension, whatever, has shown. But the fans were burning yesterday. Armann here, Phil, who's a bit of a Germano. I was thinking that there's a bit of a Bondis League. I feel about the fans. And we got to hear Brendan Rogers chant loud and proud. What was your thoughts about the support, Phil? Yeah, I wanted to say because over the last few weeks, the atmosphere has been immense. And you can see it even in Anfield. Now, from welcoming the teams in a couple of weeks ago, you know, the song that I'm match, the noise that was generated last week against Tottenham, that the away fans were spectacular against West Ham. I felt like a home match. When you're watching on the television, the songs would just be better now. It's so easy when you're challenging for something, and there's something really on the line to play for. But my god, I watch a lot of the Bondis League, and one of the things I love about the Bondis League is the constant singing, the constant noise. It's just ferocious. And one of the things about Dortmund, that's amazing, is the yellow wall. And we're building our own red wall, because that's what we have now. We have this constant noise that's common, as the matches are going on. The copper's alive again. There's just a fire that's there now that's born and true to the club at the moment. And if it keeps going the way it is, god knows what we can achieve over the next three or three years with Brendan Rodgers. And as I said, looking, it was great to hear it. The one Brendan Rodgers chance of being my head in. It was open. What's new John B for being a shit chance, right? But the one that they rolled out on Sunday, Sunday was with the Brendan Rodgers, Brendan. That, yeah, can get fucking right behind that. That was just like, I ain't getting behind this. Oh, it was open to how it's going. Brendan Rodgers, Brendan Rodgers! Like, I wanted to march into a fucking war with this man. That's because you're a psychopath. [LAUGHTER] All the children were crying. No, my wife and the kids were open to the attic, but it's all been closed. [LAUGHTER] It's been the face of this audience. It's like an Anne Frank style. I had the opening this morning going on and how it's going. Brendan Rodgers, Brendan Rodgers. Look, it's brilliant. It's the atmosphere. It's the legendary atmosphere that we were famed for. I had died out of the club because of the shit that we got through for solo. And to have a pact of that vibrancy, it's there again. It comes even from the Louis Suarez shout last week. That just resonates with us as a fan base. And, you know, across the world, you can just feel there's just this mighty war that's just waiting for the last day of the season when we pick up the trophy. Even 20 minutes after kickoff, they were still there with their Brendan Rodgers. So I was thinking, what a lift that must give the players. And, you know, because there's whatever, four and a half thousand. They don't know how many different club fans. There's about four and a half thousand down. And, you know, the players have to be, you know, an empty stadium. They're right. They're packed away. But they have to know that outside. You know what I mean? It's fair to say, though, Steve, you brought up yourself that we like to credit ourselves as being, you know, great fans and all the rest of it. But it is fair to say that that level of support hasn't been. No, this is totally-- We've been abysmal at Anfield. Yeah, you know. I've been to a lot of games that I've failed over the last probably five years, you know. And I'm not saying, I just mean, in the last five years when we haven't had much to play for. This is obviously-- Obviously over the last 15 years. No, it was Goetheson more, you still. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to go to a lot of games. No, but-- Kelry Mander goes into Anfield taking fuckin' Zekaris. Where am I? Oh, no, shit, not the blue sky today. It's half and half. Half and half. Mersey pride, Mersey pride, Mersey pride. [LAUGHTER] But now-- Here's the ever FA Cup semi-foilers. People sit in the middle of the mountain. [LAUGHTER] Blue and half, half and half pride or something. Half and half really, even half and half face pain. [LAUGHTER] But now-- You're gonna get an element whereby if you're charging people 45 quid for a ticket, they're gonna sit down, they're gonna watch the game. And that's the truth with it because, you know, in Germany, the tickets are cheap, the kids go to the games. Yeah. And the kids are the ones that have the energy to fucking-- I don't have a certain 90 minutes of standing in the end. [LAUGHTER] No, but in all seriousness, now the kids go to the games. The kids are the ones that are fucking oiled up. They're oiled up before they get in there. After buying-- After buying a flag and a fucking devil's bid into them. They're still-- And they want to sing. Oh, they're still. [LAUGHTER] There's loads of oiled up, out loud sitting on their axis, frightened and cribbing and-- Well, this is my point, and that's my point. Young lads are oiled up and mad to sing and mad to chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The oil lads are oiled up and thinking, fucking hell. [LAUGHTER] Why don't we just sit down under us and have a winch, you know? Well, for our non-Irish listeners, oiled up prefers to be in tanked up as well. [LAUGHTER] Yes, I saw you. Yeah, yeah. It's not some weird lube noise. [LAUGHTER] I got myself oiled up before the game. I was really looking forward to that. All of you guys are doing it. [LAUGHTER] OK. OK, let's get on then with our listeners' questions. First one up is from Trip or Andy, and Andy is asking a couple of questions. First one is, if it's 0 degrees today and the weatherman says it's going to be twice as cold tomorrow, what temperature will it be tomorrow? Double 0. How does that work? Depends on what scale of temperature you're using, because if it's 0 degrees Celsius, it won't be 0 degrees Fahrenheit. Likewise, if it's absolute 0, it's more than 276. And I actually like to work off the Kelvin scale. [LAUGHTER] And that's absolute 0. So that's 1 is the only 76. OK, so it'll be minus 500 and something. OK. 550. And on the Kelvin, go to some blue scale. What is it? No, he's just talking about-- Oh, that's what he said. He's only 0, is it? OK, OK, OK. OK, OK. Sorry. Fahrenheit. Up yours, Andy. [LAUGHTER] You tried to fool us? You know fool us. [LAUGHTER] Let's get a helicopter view of JAG's question, which is, what are your earliest memories of wanting to emulate your hero, Fludie? In the garden, doing what? In rush. In rush? In rush, yeah. Doing the 86 or final goal. Was it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That smashes the camera on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how many times. The Jersey on, out the back, back in the back. Living the dream. I reckon the call, that camera. [LAUGHTER] He's not beating around the background. What the fuck is that? Sorry, Andy, particularly a memory for you. Yeah, I think it was the [INAUDIBLE] that wanted us to make, against Chelsea. And that's always one that started with me. Yeah, I reckon with brother's head, I'm supplying that little chip ball for about, I'd say, at least 107 times until I got it right. Two for me, God. Bruce Grobner's kangaroo jumping the same match. That, to me, was the moment that I wanted to be a goalkeeper. It just comes out of nowhere. He's beat all ends up on the sprint back and then the jump. It wasn't seen by the goalkeeper at the time. I would have been a bit flappy, doggy, twisty back he saved. Well, it was just-- He's got a twisty back. That's a technical goal. [INTERPOSING VOICES] You know, I think the management's be good. That's how he remembered it. It's just a fantastic unbelievable save. And you look back, and you've got to cut it. [LAUGHTER] But it's paced to get back. It's actually a recovery pace, the whole thing. But he seems to be flying forever. When you see him waking and saying, he seems to take off like an under penalty spot, and he's just in mid-air. And he's just waiting to punch it, like, and he's just-- Yeah. And even if-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Right, next one is from K-Lan. K-Lan's asking, what's the real difference between a crap and a pancake? This is got to go to use-- Stay home. It's got to go to-- Recipe corner. The real difference between a crap, as K-Lan, and a pancake. Well, I actually didn't do some research into this today. So my own feeling on the difference between a crap and a pancake is number one. But it's far thinner, first of all. It's a way thinner. An American pancake. A crappus. A crappus, far, far thinner. Yeah, it's way thinner, ultimately, or nearly see-through. It's much wider. An American pancake is what I refer to as a pancake in my head. Are your mouse pancakes that you got on Pancake Tuesday? They're always a ticker type of batter. It's a different type of batter used as well. OK. A different consistency to the batter. But a crap is also because it's savory and sweet. You've got the option of savory and sweetie. Yeah, you used to do 40 answers. [LAUGHTER] To be fair, that's very bloody impressive for a man. I did no research. I genuinely did no research. Well, that's my opinion of what the difference is. I for one of my favorite. Is it the crappus, the French thing doing the hotstone and the pancake is done in the pan? It could be, but now people use the crappus. So it's much of the same. Yeah, they use that-- there's a certain spatula used for a crapp to get out the shape of it. Oh, fuck, I crapped spatula. Paul, let's get away from craps for a minute and talk about-- Crabs? Yeah, craps. [LAUGHTER] Talk about the next one from Carolyn. He wonders if Handel was fighting Carl, who wins? Hmm. I'd say, handlessly, he just kicks Carl's barre steel out from one of them. Oh, very good angle. So you've got it in a social setting. Yeah, basically. And you think he has to cheat? Well, he's not really. I think if the carre carries that barre steel around, we'll probably-- just in case it comes across, right? Just in case the barre's getting a bit rough. What were you still like, don't he? [LAUGHTER] Ah, I'm looking pretty. Little bit of Jordy there. The next one is, again, from the same man, he's wondering, just how shitty are girls' toys in Toy Shop compared to boys' toys? This is actually a good shout. Think about that for a second. I don't know what the funny of you. Yeah, that's like, oh, you know, Christmas shopping for a young-- Yeah. --why I wanted a boy to sneak a few toys and be served as a fucking cat. It's all in real stuff, yeah. Like little boys, there is. But now, yeah, I think the girl stuff does look fairly-- They do get a raw deal, but comparison, not like that. Yeah, it's all the same sort of crap-like, isn't it? Yeah, I know. We all thought I was on to just buy the boys' toys, because there were just no crack. That's a fact. That's a fact. Next one is from Jim, he's wondering, what would be the title-- I think we may have had this one before, we'll go again. What would be the title of your autobiography? Confessions of a child is a little shift for brains. [LAUGHTER] Yes. Yes. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] How many other sheds for that? He said it couldn't be done, so I didn't do it. [LAUGHTER] I don't think that. OK, right next one up is from Gray, and Gray asks, which would you rather fight in a boxing match, Paul, an orangutan or kangaroo? Oh, Jesus, man. Oh, happy-- Kangaroos, like, yeah. Kangaroos are a fucking mad, don't they? Like, orangutan seem to have a chill, though. [LAUGHTER] Well, you have to-- Well, you always see them chilling out, don't you? They remember, and that's how he's based on him. You always see him chilling out. Well, he's like an orangutan. Now, the fucking kangaroos are mad, they help open their fucking tail, and they kick in their-- They see-- He did all the pans, is this in a legal boxing match, or is it on their max or queen speed rules? Because of it is, you want to fight kangaroos. You want to fight kangaroos? [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Hang on a second, I think you're fighting under the market, keep me girls, and there'll be no use in the feet. Do you ever hear-- do you ever hear-- [LAUGHTER] Do you ever hear David Admiral, say orangutan? No, I heard he says orangutan. [LAUGHTER] Very nice. That's how he refers to the most. Orangutan. Well, he should, at first, he should know me. He should know. He knows more than us. No more than us. I'll tell you what. Paul Brennan says that the two chilled out the foiter, man, he landed out there-- Yeah, well, when did you ever see an angry orangutan? [INTERPOSING VOICES] When he has a rose on his hand. Kangaroos always wound up to fuck like you. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, I reckon, yeah, yeah. He just sit in the corner to hang, let you kick the shell. Yeah. OK, right, let's go round the table for this next one. This is, again, from great. He's wondering if you could-- this is a big rim. If you could only keep one of your five cents, at which one would you pick? Sorry, have you got a shot in this? One of your five cents is to keep, which one would it be? Right, I'll come to that one in a minute, but I'll just remember it as well. I picked Tony Blair, and that was a really shit example. I've met Liam Gallagher as well, so I'll stick to that one. That's my, yeah, my slippery. So, senses are-- oh, fuck no, probably-- [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] It's a hard call, it's a hard call, it's not in France. It's a difficult one, isn't it? Hearing, I suppose. You hang on to your hearing. OK, OK, nice one. On the other side, that's right. Sorry for me, absolutely sorry. Sorry. I could handle not hearing-- right, OK, doesn't it? You're more likely to get a bang of a car, if you can't hear so, but-- Well, from behind, anyway. But no, I could not handle not being able to see anymore. Listen, put it this way, right? You're there. Imagine listening to them. Like, me, Hollemer Heretics says, "Close your eyes. Imagine you are listening." [LAUGHTER] He only gives that gig on the-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] You know, sight-sables are definitely in their list. And you know, so what I'm saying is, I wouldn't want to have to-- and I'd like to point something out about that ad, actually. The only time I ever hear that is when I'm driving my fucking car. Now, it's not a good idea for me to close my eyes. [LAUGHTER] Right? It's probably best to keep my eyes on the road, so I don't end up with the arse of the car on front of me. But anyway, you know, sight for me being able to not-- not being able to see football anymore would absolutely-- Yeah, but think about that. I can speak from personal experience here. My taste is gone. I can't smell it. It's because I'm old, you know? I can't smell. I can't taste. We had to fucking wheel you in here. Yeah, I just fuck. This is genuine. My hearing's fucked, right? Touch, who gives a fuck about that? You probably never ejaculate, though, if you couldn't feel anything. Never ejaculate again, if you couldn't feel anything. Listen, listen, listen, listen, think about it this way. If you could, you wouldn't feel it. If you could-- if you could-- if you could feed yourself ejaculate, but couldn't see, you wouldn't know where it went. [LAUGHTER] There's probably a lot to be said for that. Well, there is until you come home. Until you come home and it's all over the couch and you'll miss it. It goes, "Well, you've been having the last three hours." It doesn't make you count. You're here, I can't. And you can't-- you can't say anything, you know? [LAUGHTER] You just laugh in the way. [LAUGHTER] Imagine how loud you think if you can't hear. [LAUGHTER] Oh, no, no, no! I'm going, I'm going, I'm going! All you're going to do is just look surprised. What's that mess over there? The problem is, the problem is, you'd be there with your lad and your aunt, not knowing she's even back in the room yet. With the parents. With the parents. [LAUGHTER] Which one's wrong with a lot? I'm sorry. [LAUGHTER] Stephen, woman's coming to see us. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Fuck yeah, that's it. We're done. [LAUGHTER] OK, finally some admin. Then first thing we want to do is thank the Justice for the 96 Collective for allowing us to have the exclusive player if they're single last week. We are Liverpool is storming up the charts, so you need to get on it. You need to buy it. Let's drive this out to number one. The cause does not get any better. There's a link on the website, so you've got absolutely no excuses. While we're on it, stay on the website. Walk around it. It's a beautiful thing. 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