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That's S-P-R-E-A-K-E-R.com/adhub and start using your advertising dollars in an impactful way. [MUSIC PLAYING] Liverpool are on fire as they head to face the might of daily noise boys. Can they open up a 14-point gap in the rivals? It's the day trippers. [MUSIC PLAYING] On tonight's show, we're joined by pod debutant Ryan MacTurnan and Molly joins us on the line as we look forward to the match at all traffers. We also have a special interview with the renowned playwright Nikki Alte who show you'll never walk along. The official history of Liverpool Football Club will be opening in the GADY soon. And we'll conclude, as per usual, with your listeners' questions. First up, we have an interview with playwright Nikki Alte, who's you'll never walk along. The history of Liverpool Football Club has opened a great claim in Liverpool and will soon be here for people to see in the GADY theater. Nikki, you're well known to Liverpool fans as the author of One Night in Istanbul, the hugely successful play that's set to become a movie this year. It must be really special to be able to incorporate your passion for Liverpool Football Club into your writing. Yeah, well, I was getting a little bit bored of-- I want to say bored almost like that. It's got a bit of tight casters being a football writer, but I was such a fanatical supporter. I mean, I was in 38 games, 42 games a season, man. For 20 years, and what I found was even when I didn't like football, still fall, football stuff was going back in to whatever else I was doing. So people keep asking me to do this, still fun. I think the reason that they're asking me is that they normally are support. I mean, I know a lot of fans who went to their way games and every game every single weekend. You know, we were not trying to be super fans. We were just doing the six football supporters. I was like, probably what you say, I'm a fanatic. So I think most of the stories in life are to do with football. So I think one might miss number of the courts. As did here, we go gather in clubs and make the booth. And a lot of people like the other booth have all this inspiration and mercy. So I thought the best thing that I could probably do, and I would be like to write the full history of the football club, which I always knew was going to be difficult, but I think we've done a great job. Well, absolutely. And I thought that brings us pretty much to where I wanted to go. And actually, I'll never walk alone. The official history of Liverpool football club is the name of the new show. We heard about it first. I suppose we assumed some sort of fact-based documentary-style thing. What can people expect when they turn up to watch in Dublin, Liggy? Well, basically, it's the whole story from the very beginning. From when it split from Everton, when Everton didn't want to play the increase strength. And so he wanted to make Everton a bigger football club, a city-wide football club. And so they renamed it to, well, it was a Dublin man. I wasn't really named the cup, it was William Barkley, and she was holding, moved away, and having had to move out. And so, a little bit of a gamble. It was a whole journey for me, because we need more as a fanatical football supporter. I didn't know all this stuff. You just don't bother, you know, you tend to go to the football game. You know, you know, you're heroes, you know, you're moments. But then when I started, like, Dublin deep, Liverpool's history so dense, it was how we got that down into, like, a one and a half to our play. Well, there's a lot of music in there, a lot of the cup songs that are in there. We've basically told the story from 1892, right the way forward to present day. And listen, there's a whole world of stories that we've yet to put in. So it'll be an ever-evident play, it'll always change. That's very interesting. So it's kind of, it has that potential for evolution. What was the plan to deceive for the show? I mean, if you obviously Istanbul is dramatic in and of itself, and an obvious point of reference, or a point of beginning for something. But was it more of a labour of love about a lifetime of passion for the Reds? Or was there some defining moment which you might be thinking, you know what, let's do this? Well, I think sometimes, you know, like a lot of us who are football fans, it was also a frustrated footballer. I never really gated me all when I was young and I had a bit of a poor attitude. You know, I always thought I was too big for me, but when I was a kid there's a footballer, I wouldn't be told what to do. So certainly you find yourself, you know, you're in your late 20s, you're not going to be a footballer. But I'm by this time, I'm a fanatical fan and the team are that good. When I was in mid-20s, sometimes I think that they let me astray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, instead of playing footballer, I was always going to watch them all over Europe. And even though I had no money and stuff, we were always bunking on the trains and bunking on the boats, which was harmless stuff then. You know, I'm not proud of anything, but it was harmless stuff all the minutes. I think young people come to us and move now, if you know, every time they move, there's a camera on the motel and they've got to join this club. So in the end, we just looked at the whole thing. And one might miss them, always a fankeeper, climbing in also windows and what happens on a typical European trip or wanted to sell a tail. But when I looked at the whole thing, I just thought the only thing to do is the whole football court system. Very steady, don't want to first look at it. Sure, yeah. You know, I had to sit down and go through research and legends or I just thought to myself, I've got to, I've just got to have a go at it. I was really, really worried because the high selling nails, the stuff, you know, the low points inside of these. Or I think the way we pulled it off, if I'm nearly honestly, if so, I've been asked to see, you know, it's no, the shop plays, there's no plays, but I'm actually off the moon at the shop. Well, I mean, there's so many of us just kind of on edge to see it really looking forward to. I mean, was it, was that very, very difficult for you, trying to incorporate Heidel and Hindenburg such, such sombre and tragic events into a show, which obviously, you know, is at a tart and entertainment and you want it to be uplifting as an experience? Well, it was because the fingers, you know, I was only used to really, I really enjoy more than anything right in comedy. I mean, yeah, I mean, some balls are typical example, I think. The first B-01, the boys from the mayor, a lot of people just chasing me, I don't know what to do is get pulled up in the street and people always tell me it's hilarious. And when I write another one, you know, to write a book is also, it's a lot of work, but I will write another book again, but looking at the husband and the high school principal, well, we can't leave them out, so people are just going to say you've dodged it. Yeah, or would it be in a comedy, the fingers is to be able to go that low and sell them stories and then bring it back up again. And I think we've done it really, really well. I mean, last night in the theatre in Liverpool, it was like 1100 people. I think, you know, you're caught in here, it pins up on the hills. We're seeing, at the end, I actually sort of been looking across seats and there was a lot of people crying. So, you know, you're proud in one way, but you go, it's very, very emotional because a lot of people relive it in the scene that we do in there. And then by the time that's finished, you have to bring it back up again. And we've got a song and a bit of stuff for that sort of make it light out for them things and alter that again. But, you know, that was the most important part. High school in Hillsborough, but I think everybody showed for us so that we've done a fantasticly well-short one. You know, I'm over the moon now. It's a just one on moments where you feel relieved if you know what I'm saying. Of course, yeah, of course. What about the far end of things where, you know, I know if I was putting myself in your shoes, I'd be very, very tempted to make a whole container by Kenny Douglas, you know what I mean? How much of it difficulty was it for you to avoid maybe centralising your heroes? I don't think you particularly loved it. Well, you see, it didn't do all of our own. And for me, like I've ended up doing probably a half a year ago, but both shall we? But as well, I see them as a kid. You see, I mean, I'm not happy now for when I see him. And I see him, he was like a fellow who is just struggling. Somebody who could lead people who you'd want to follow. You know, everybody said, yeah, his politics were very similar to ours. It's not the same. His passion for football was the same as ours. So, you know, it's funny, you know, there's a lot of little people who are very passionate. There's a lot of very passionate people in Dublin. But it's sort of, it's like a Scotsman to come in a bit like James Cowie. Well, you know, what kind of story and science is earlier here. So, you know, I think on our side it's a command to provide the people up. So, we've built shankly. So, you know, there's a lot of Kenny Douglas in there. There's a lot of Bob Paisley in there. He's another fantastic hero, but, you know, we've looked at the plan. You know, there's only bits on Billy Little. There's only bits on Albert Stubman's. There's not a lot on me. I mean, Calligan amongst the painters. There's a hell of a lot of people there, Ian Rush, that we don't do a hell of a lot on. And so, it will always evolve. But the temptation for me wasn't probably the temptation that I didn't do too much on both shankly. Right. Look, the show is always going to open as it has done, and it's lovely to hear that it's doing so well in Liverpool. But what was it about Dublin that appealed to you as a venue for the show as well? I mean, I know there's a connection between the cities, of course, but was there any other reason, personal reason that you had for driving towards Dublin? I think it's very, very similar to Liverpool every time I come there, just feels the same. I feel like the city's here very, very similar. The humour's very similar. It's very cotton, you know, very sharp, as if everybody tends to like ribbon each of that. Yeah. And I think that's, you know, when I've wrote stuff in the past, I've also played here called 'Blick of the Merci Songs' in Liverpool that was a huge hectic, sort of cap-a-theater open. And it was sort of like, it was a grant for about five years, and all it did not play. It was just like, it's skiffed and sort of, it's sort of, who calls it, everybody in Liverpool? Well, we have like London directors come up to direct, but playing all of the same thing is you're going to have to sit on this unit down and take it down. So it's a Liverpool, Dublin, probably Glasgow, it's very similar to, it's like, it's that unit where, you know, you might be your best mate, will you give them help? That's the first thing you do, yeah, you tear them down, is you say, yeah? Yeah, and a lot of people don't understand it, I mean, I always remember the 2001 FA Cup final we were playing Arsenal, and there was also eight in nine, I was arguing in a pub. I mean, you're Arsenal fans, we were drinking, they came in and said, 'We went out and said to it, 'So what the lads, all you mates are fighting in there?' And then we were just like, 'We were all still certain, who calls them each other?' You know, the Londoners, they called, 'We were like, we were going to fight and we were getting aggressive, but we were, it's just the way we are.' So Dublin, I find it very much your home from home, and in all passing it, the Liverpool fans are there, they've got a lot of friends there, they've got a lot of big reds. And I just thought, 'Well, if we're going to do Ireland, we can go to Cork, we can go to the other coast in Ireland, we can go up to Belfast, but where should we start with the show?' And the idea of place, the obvious place to start was Dublin, I hope, people from the other parts of Ireland, like they did at one night in Istanbul, you know, they'll come in to Dublin and watch the show show, you know, that, that was, it was just fine on a centre point in Dublin, it was the right place. I said, 'I should answer that, I always wanted to play the game.' Oh really? Okay, well that's lovely, I think you can be fairly, fairly sure that people will make the effort to travel, because it's something that people will want to see, Nicki, but this is going to be a very busy year for you, with the show, are there any plans to tour it further field? Yeah, I think we want to get all over the world, so that the answer stated that the first two places that it's been really pushed in is Liverpool and Dublin, probably the next place might be, maybe next year, I don't know, will probably be Belfast over to Scandinavia. We were looking this year and maybe taking it with the football club over to America, we think we're a little bit sure, a little bit tight on that now, but we were looking at like the football games and I just don't think the club has got enough going on, it's great that they have a game in like say New York or Chicago, I just think it'd be fantastic as well as the stuff that people I downfield wrapped to and other little things like bands and stuff. I think it'd be nice to go and educate supporters and say this is the football club and I have the show on outside of the stadium somewhere. Oh absolutely, again you can imagine there'd be massive interest, I really hope you get to do that. I mean also you've got, I'm around saying that the movie of Woman in Istanbul is due for release this year as well. Well yeah, I mean it's been a long time coming, it's been about a year ago, they missed a boat with the music and stuff. It should have come out to August this year, sorry August last year, it's coming out to August this year now. So yeah, it will be busy, but like that's all in now on, you know, again I have to say a little bit like the Heisel and Hillsford stuff going into this play, I watched the film behind closed doors, the other day I was, I've got to save you, I would bloody believe that it was a good film because after spending that long on it, if it would have been an absolute deal, it would have been able to crack me up and I'll tell you what I've done, even though it was a £1.5 million film, I've invented it by saying it apart and saying "I'm going to start again" because it's such an integral moment that Istanbul moments and I think, you know, we're all being biased, I'm a little bit of a supporter of course, but it's one of the greatest football games it's ever taken place, so we have to make a film that didn't adjust us, and it sure was okay, you know it was just okay and I've seen other bits, but nothing's done that Istanbul day just as so, this is what we've done, we've done a bunch of data and hopefully I think we've made a really good film, so listen, I'll have more stuff out of me, next step really, this play now is up and done, enough film is up and done, but we'll just stuff them in, I'm sure it's up and done, I can't stop, I'm just like on this thing, but I just want to keep going. Is there any truth to the rumor, Nikki, that you're putting together a new play featuring Colo, Luis Suarez and Brendan Rodgers, that writer, is that a scoreless rumor that I heard? Well if you go and see this play, I mean the last five or ten minutes of this play is all about Luis Suarez, Brendan Rodgers, Daniel Sturridge, so all the new stuff in there, now anyway, there's a scene that everybody seems to love at the moment, which we've been a bit to you, because before and all, let's go triple, well look everybody in the round, let the pool knows already, but we've got Luis Suarez's draft, you know, so there you go. Fantastic. You're a match going red yourself, I mean, obviously, and Oleguin would probably drive sales at the shelves tremendously, but what do you think are the realistic possibilities of that yourself as a man who watches the matches closely? Yes, the possibility is off, sorry. Of us, of us actually may be nailing down Oleguin this year, do you think it's a possibility? Absolutely, possibility, I mean, Chelsea's only got to lose a game and I still got a console out of the other thing, you know, the lock-ins is on the United game, and you can, well, no, it doesn't really, less than what I would say to you is, the great strides that Brendan Rodgers has made, and the football have come up with me this year, is epic games important again, no. So every week comes up, I know you're here, a little bit of a fan saying is, ah, it's great, it's so important this game, I think, no, every single game's important now. So it's a little cliché, you've got to take every game of the time, but if they want it, when it all suffers, it's the more than capable of doing it the weekend, then I think it's going to give everybody a huge lift, I mean, it's just, it's all, I mean, I think it's the level. It's a good season, it's a good season to get back into the Champions League, but may personally not, I want to go out and out for the league, while it's very good for it. Sure, your man, like myself, who's seen the team win league, after league, and it's something that's kind of bred into us as supporters of a certain age, I mean, will you get all the traffic yourself, or how do you get the patches at all, the schedule that you see appear to have at the moment? No, that's where I've been, I've been let off a little bit of steam, I mean, I'll be going to all suffered next, next after league, so I won't be sick of it, but I'm not worried about that, no problems, I'll be getting me sick of it down the day, but, ah, ah, ah, look, I don't consider a game like I used to, I mean, I used to go to third league games of season, I can't do that no more, or I mean, I'll go to 20, and that might be 10 away games and 10 home games. So I'll do well, this season probably less, I'll probably end up going to, yeah, about half of that, you know, man, do you know, if you get on a European, you're on those goals of the sector of legend for me, so I've got the ones I have to go on, so I break the bank and save me money to go to, ah, sort of the granted, as I think we all did a few years ago when we came to Barcelona, and, you know, in Milan and all that stuff, but the next time we played, oh my god, am I there? I'm half there in the head already, that's the only one made, there's a lot of people booking flights that I really have, but, listen, that's fantastic, really, really, really a pleasure to speak to you, and the very, very best of luck with all the stuff you've got coming up, and we can only, we can only wish it success. Thanks for the evolution, I'm very looking forward to Dublin, so anybody who's listening normally mates in Dublin, I'll be having a good break this time, because I've been sure what it's just doing, nothing in the future, welcome to Dublin, I'm having a little week, but hopefully you might get to share at least one with you at some stage, thanks a lot, Nike. Here, thank you, try not. Right, let's look forward to a match that's been far too long, coming from most of us, that's the annual pilgrimage down the East Langth Road to Old Trafford, which is currently presided over by that doy-on of the Open Letter, Mr. Giant Eyes, Moise, refer of course to Manchester United vs Liverpool on Sunday at lunchtime, and the United are 11 points back, and despite a win at the weekend, they're clearly struggling under the Scott's tenure. Many Liverpool fans will maybe foolishly be expecting a fast-oil victory, but all of a sudden this fixture is even more massive for the match, we beat them, they suddenly struggle to get a Europa League, but a win for them, and they'll be dreaming about hauling their selves back into the top four, so Moise, are we confident going into this game? Well, I'm never confident going into any game for a complete giant strike, I'm just one of these guys, but I'm usually more nervous going into a game, especially against the Monks, but this week, I'm just not that nervous going into a game suddenly when we come to Manchester, they seem to have lost that fear factor, or as I like to call it, the Fergie factor, since Moise took over, so confident, no, but I'm not nervous going into it either. Okay, okay, Ryan, what's your take on how you come from going into Sunday? Yeah, and I mean, there's no reason not to be, mind you now, they aren't exactly the best team in the world at the moment, and we're riding high in a lot of confidence and it's going to go, I've kind of an idea in two different games that might happen, but I'll say that for later, because, you know, predictions, whatever, but there's no reason we can't go there and just sit back and let them come out, it's come out, it's come out, knock it up the other end of the pitch one, they'll go from there. Fair enough, Andy, how are you feeling going into it? Yeah, looking forward to the big one, and the game, not having a game this weekend was a killer, you know, so really looking forward to this one, normally, as Molly says, it's going to be absolutely shitting myself when we're playing the Monks, and it probably comes on tomorrow, and I will be as well, but I'm really looking forward to this and more so than ever, because I'm just relishing the idea that we could actually taunt them, like we could actually taunt them, say the amount of the fucking pack. So there's not any bit of extra, but you know, I'm looking forward to it in the sense that I think Liverpool, the best chance they'll ever have gone, they'll suffer them and take a three points handy, that's not saying they will. Okay, Dave Thomas, what are you thinking, you're usually an upbeat kind of a man, what are you thinking? I mean, yeah, I'm a little like Andy, I'm looking forward to it. My feeling this is that, you know, they won't beat us, the only way we lose is if we beat ourselves. We're better than every area of the pitch, you know, and I can't remember the last time we went to all-traffered, and we were better than them, pretty much throughout the side. You know, we've won four and a bounce, so it's, you know, for this Liverpool team, it's a bit of a make-up, not make-up break, but it's a big game. We win this game, you know, then the title looks like something we can do. If we lose this game, it's not a disaster, you know, and if we draw it, we're probably nailed on for top four. So you know, we go there with a lot of confidence, not a lot of pressure, and we should beat them, the only way we don't beat them is if we don't turn up or if we beat ourselves. Fair enough. Fair enough. Now, there are some obvious questions going into this, and they're all basically around selection. So we started the back. Mamma Risaco apparently had an impressive run out with the 21, so should he be considered for selection, given his aerial prowess and the fondness that Mr. Moyes has to get his mangs crossing the ball? Phil, I'll come to you on this, and you can start with Tommy with your confidence as well. I'm on the confidence side, but no, I've seen this game from a long way out as one that we're going to lose. It's just a feeling I have. I think that as good as we have been, I think this for them is their World Cup final. I think their whole season right in this match, they have nothing left to play for. I don't even think, I think Moyes puts out a strongest team. Moyes is such a small time-fucker that he doesn't understand that a Champions League game is a much bigger game to win, and they need to win that more than they need to win the actual league match. But the fellow has, I don't write him as a manager, never did write him as a manager. I think he's an average manager who's managed to fluke a big job, and this will be his World Cup final. If he beats Liverpool, he'll take a season as a success in his own head, whether he'll say it out publicly, that's exactly what he'll think, right? So for me, they will put their whole season into this one game, and we might come up short. Because of my genuine thinking, but I don't think it affects our season as such. Because we're, you go to United, the form book goes out the window, there was many times we went under Julio, and we managed to turn the ranks over one nil, even though the day were the stronger team, and they went on to achieve things, and we went on to finish maybe toward a fourth in the league, in its place. Come on back to the question on Sacco, do I think he should start? No. Any other time of the season, I would have said yes, however, I do think that we're going to need a more on the running, I'd like to see 60 minutes himself, come on, at that point, to prevent any type of barrage, I'm hoping that we win the game, don't get me wrong, I don't want us to win, lose the game, but I'm hoping that we win the game. And from that, I just think that if it's nil or one nil or whatever it is at 60 minutes, you bring Sacco on, because the only thing boys are going to do is try to float the flags and whip in 946 million crosses in the last 20 minutes, right? And he's such a, like, Sacco would be brilliant in that instance, but to put him in from minute one, I haven't had no games in such a long, long time, and expect the performance out of him is asking just a bit too much out of the player. And it's, it's, it's eating pressure on him when we don't need to eat pressure on the actual player himself. I would put Cole O'Torre in, from Aaron Skirtle, purely because I think, Torre is, is, is more dominant in the air than Skirtle actually is, and I think he would be served better in this game than Skirtle potentially would be. And I, I just prefer the Torre Agra partnership over the, the, the, the Skirtle Agra partnership at this moment in time. There's one, there's one, there's two leaders effectively in, in the back. And I think, Agra, and as I said before, I think, Agra and Skirtle could get muscled, get muscled in this game. Okay. And Leon, how are you feeling about Sacco coming back in and what do you think the resultant shape of the team will be there at the back? Yeah. It's a risky one just throwing Sacco back in, just like that, but it would have the tent, the tentation would be there to bring in Sacco or Torre for Agra actually, or much prefer Agra as a player, but it's just not played enough football this year. And I think the mistakes that Skirtle has had, he's had a fire, you know, better season than their mistakes. You know, he's, he's played well for some, in big games, um, like against Iris, he scored, and he scored against Chelsea early as well. So I think, uh, Skirtle will be up for this game, Agra is just a little bit mixed in his concentration, and he, you know, I was just on fancy Agra at the moment. Although he prefer him long term, that he, he's my favorite, I would a lot of them. So if he tempted to put one of them in and they're given Torre, like he's capable of fucking out and I'd probably go with Sacco, no problem, like I think Sacco would love it. Right. Okay. Um, Ryan, what will be your shirt now? Yeah. Um, just to come back, um, what Phil said about Torre dominant in the air, I actually did a piece that's not Opie-ep on to Colatorre, and his aerial duel win percentage is like abysmally shit compared to the other three, um, and I, I, I actually can drag it out. I said maybe he's coming up, like he, against Benteca. He's up against bigger dudes because Rogers knows Skirtle isn't exactly Mr. Macho in some ways, even though he might look the park, but I, I, I, even though I'd like Sacco to come in, I think I'd bring him on half an hour to go, you know, I might think back to the first game at Anfield against United, Skirtle and Agar ripped Rooney and van Percier ever played out there, you know, and like they were just, they weren't getting beat. So I was thinking maybe, you know, maybe they'd have a good game again, but, uh, yeah, I think I'd, even though I don't like Skirtle myself, I'd keep him in with Agar and then maybe bring Sacco back in or Torre at the end. Yeah. I don't, I, like, I don't give a shot, it starts to be honest with you, it's, when I see Torre playing in the back four, when we're going up against physical attackers, I'm just a lot more confident. Yeah, and I'll be the same. Um, and I think it's, it's, it's been interesting that in, in recent games, when, uh, Rogers has felt like the teams are going to try push against us and show the kids in sync, he's taken Agar out and put Torre back out, back on to, to, to give that leadership, um, and, and, and to give us a bit more of a physical presence in the box because the lads get beaten on crosses. And like we'll, we'll be talking more, I know we'll be talking more, but it leads into what fallbacks do you play? Uh, you know, it's game plan is going to be to get wide and put, put crosses in. You don't put Glenn Johnson on that football pitch because Glenn Johnson will let them get the crosses in all day long. Okay. Well, let's, let's kind of move into that. And I, it's pretty much introduced at this stage. Uh, Dave Thomas, does Alex Salka get back in? Um, there was a little thing in one of this, in the newspapers, Plaza Deportivo, I think saying that Liverpool weren't going to take up the option to, um, to buy, um, which would probably indicate that Ali's off again, uh, which we might say that he's maybe not in the best frame line. Does he come in for you? No. And, you know, I know that's going to upset Phil, but personally, I think you start with the same back four we had against Southampton. Okay. It's a clean sheet. It's a big game. So, you know, everyone's focus and attention levels are going to be a little higher. The other thing I pointed out about Moises crossing strategy is it's a largely unsuccessful strategy. Do you know what I mean? I mean, it's not like they're, he hasn't got Ben Tech out front. He hasn't got Lukaku up front. He's got Van Percy and Rooney and, and they're good headers of the ball. I'm not saying that, but that's not the game they want to play. The way we win this game is we win it going forward, not going back, right? So the, the entire team is going to be picked based on who is brand to think is going to score the most goals. And that's why Johnson plays. I'm not saying it's the best offensive choice and I can, I can absolutely see the validity of saying, well, you know, if you want to stop crosses to soccer plays and if you want to head away crosses, soccer plays and if you want to, you know, head more crosses the way Torrey plays, but he is going to go with just one three now, we've won four and a bounce. This game gets won by our attack as beating their defense, not their attack beating our defense. And I think that's our instruction team. You actually think it's that kind of a balls at attitude that it's really, really a score. I mean, have you been what? I mean, look at the way we played this season. I suppose what I'm saying to you is if you think about the likelihood of Glenn starting and you know, this, I'm not going to, I'm not going to let this turn into a weapon session on this kid book, he doesn't, he doesn't stop cross as well. You know, other teams who have far more proficient defensive fullbacks have struggled to keep man united from crossing the ball and, you know, we're then inviting them on to cross and they're going to get crosses in and then they're coming in on top of Agar and Skirt and you're in your back four. And you're right. But the modern fullback, right, is asked to do so much in the game. And I think Rogers has said, okay, I haven't got a full back that can do it all, right. So I picked Sizoko who can do the back 50% or I picked Johnson who can do the front 50%, which one is going to win me the game. And I think, again, we can disagree about it. But he will pick Johnson because Johnson will give him that front 50%. Yeah. Molly, would you agree with that? Can you see Johnson starting? Yeah. 100%. I fully agree with him today. I've just said there because at his Sizoko, you are right, he probably is a little bit better defensive reading than Johnson and he might stop those crosses coming in. But that's why I'd have Johnson on the left and I would bring Saka back into the center half position to clear those crosses coming. Right. I know Clint Johnson is getting a passion of late, but there's no one that's going to convince me that Alice Sizoko is a better player than then Johnson. Yeah. You know, he just says that at the end of the day, you put out your best team out in the park each week. And what are we like for that? Clint Johnson right now is our best left back. So he has to play it. You know, in the summer, I'm sure we're going to upgrade and guess when better. But for now, he's the best that we have. So for that reason, Lord, that Johnson has to be it. Yeah. No, Molly, I'd counter the argument for Sizoko. I'd actually put, he probably won't go in, to be honest. Clint Johnson probably will start. But Alice Sizoko, right, Alice Sizoko is like a toasted ham and cheese sandwich. All right. No, just stick with me. Just stick with me. Just stay with her. Okay. The thing is, is that, you know, you could have had so many better options for lunch, but you just got the simple option. And that's what Sizoko is. He's, I think, you know, your best players don't have to be, Johnson is certainly more talented, but I think Sizoko defensively, he's going to, he's just going to be a lot more better for, as you said, dealing with the crosses and stuff. And then because when we've won those counter-tacking games against the big teams, he was there at left back. He might have been doing the best of jobs, but he certainly was, you know, keeping out some of what Kevin Morales was doing against against us at Anfield, stuff like that. So I personally, just me, my own thing, like, if, if it came to the option that you just said, you know, Sizoko probably won't be signed in the summer, if, if we got an offer for Enrique, that was above the value of what Valencia won for Sizoko, I'd actually go for it. I'd sell Enrique and get Sizoko. And that's, that's just me. I just, that's just me. It's a strange one for me, and it's kind of a recording team for Liverpool fans. And it seems that the players that don't play actually get better in the minds of Liverpool fans, you know, call it all as a perfect example, Luis Alberto, all these guys who are not actually on the page and doesn't play seem to be warbeaters in the eyes with a lot of Liverpool fans, but the actual tool is absolutely crap to the random, and that's because they're hopeless. And Sizoko falls under that category we've read, he is, all right, he is at all of this, but he's certainly not good enough Liverpool. Some people might say Glen Johnson isn't either, but when it comes to attacking wise, even defence-wise, I'd argue, it's Johnson's a much better player than Sizoko. Yeah. Can't, I can't be having that. I can't, I can not, I can not be having that. Seriously, I've watched the deterioration of Glen Johnson over the last 18 months, and Barra, a four-month spell at the start of this season, he's been pure on utter pants, right? And, and let's be straight about it. The fellas come back in. Is this yours, Raina? Yeah, and it's like, I'd say one thing, right? The one thing that that's gone for Johnson over the last two games is the last half-narrowed last match, he started to look like a footballer again. But it's half an hour where you have comfortable, when you're now comfortable against Southampton, actually count as a crunch match. Now this is not a crunch match, and I'll go back and reiterate that this is not a crunch match for us. It's crunch in terms of if we want to win the league, we go to all traffic and we win, right? If we want to finish toward, it's not a crunch match. If we want to finish forward, it's not a crunch match, right? For me, I'm just looking at it, I'm saying, I want to see, I want to see defensive solidity, I want to see a back-forward that can defend what's going to be put up against them. And if you're picking a team that's going to defend what you know that they're going to try to do, then sack out those come in, and Johnson, Johnson goes out and Soussoka comes in because they're the best players at preventing cross balls and defending crosses, right? And I'll go back to what Dave says, I do agree that that won't happen, that Brendan will stick with the team that won against Southampton, I've now wished you that at all, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Well, it's a quick point to you, you said about it, this is a crunch match, I highly described that, I think this is probably the biggest game of our season. And I tell you why, if we beat many Irish, we are doing 14 points clear of your Irish, so that completely rules them or the kitchen as well. Spores are playing Arsenal, if Spores drop points against Arsenal, we could go at 9 points clear to Dave, and as far as I can start, if we're 14, we know it is, 9 clear against Spores, a Liverpool 11 clear of everything, that's it, we did have Champions League guaranteed, and then we can start looking at towards second and first, but I tell you what, I just can't say it, I get that fourth place, I didn't look forward. As it depends what your ambition is, Molly, every game we play from now to the end of the season is the biggest game of the season, as long as we keep fucking winning, because we have win in the league ambition, and I feel like, I feel as Sartre said in the past that he's happy before, he's happy with Tor, we get Champions League, it's fucking massive first, it's the biggest win in the league for him, and it's true to a certain extent, I mean as soon as Liverpool lose the game, that's what our focus is, it's just making sure we keep that. And I personally think that Liverpool will get this fourth place at a counter, they can afford to lose the game and still get fourth, no problem, I don't think Spores are just going to turn up and get 7 points more for us this season, I just don't think that's going to happen, but it is the minds, and it is a fucking huge game, and if Liverpool want to win the league, and at this stage, I'm looking at the league, and I think most Liverpool fans are, yeah, and to put it into context, Molly in terms of you, I mean, if you're not going to catch us, we would have to lose 3 more games, 3 more games than them, over 9 games, we've lost 5 games all season, we've lost something like 10 games out of the last 65 league games, right, this is not a team that loses games, right, so, you're neither have gone, you know, and I think calling this the biggest game of the season, actually what that does is, I think that puts it undue pressure on the game, when really it's the biggest game of the season for your night that has Phil Serra, it's not the biggest game of the season for us, because the reality is we lose this game, we've got a Cardiff and San de Long, we've been both of those games, we're on the top four, you know, it doesn't really, it matters, it's united, it matters, it's painful if we lose, it matters, I don't want to pay it down, but this is not our biggest game of the season, you know, every game is the biggest game of the season, if we want to win the league, if we want to finish top four, we need to win, what, 5 out of the next night? Well that's it, that's exactly it, that's a small time thinking of this being our biggest game of the season, thankfully it's gone out the window a little bit, yeah, I don't even realize it's not going to boil down to where the Chancellor, it's the soccer players, soccer has just boiled down to that anyway, no, I mean, that's what we're, that's what we're here to start at this debate, and it's fucking Johnson, that's the soccer, they're both fucking shit, fucking up, Ryan, if Ali is a ham and cheese sandwich, what the hell is Joe Allen and does he retain his place, and if he does retain his place, is at the expense of Phil Coutinho or Rahim Sterling, and what kind of sandwich did they fall? I tell you what kind of, I tell you what kind of sandwich Joe Allen is, he's a piece of prime Welsh lamb coming in to the side, drifting in from Swansea, you know I tell you I love, I absolutely love Joe Allen, there's no words that I can say that can actually sum up my feelings for this man, I kind of wanted to be my best man at my wedding, honestly guys, it's fantastic, so I was like you wanted to be more than best man, Joe, if you're not listening to me, yeah, it's pepper rain, it's fucking listening, you didn't listen to me during the week there last week, did ya, coming out talking crap, no honestly, back to Joe Allen, he, I would definitely bring him in at the expense of poor Phil, because the thing is, Rahim was dropped for Joe Allen for the Southampton game, and that turned out to be a master stroke from Rogers, the only reason Coutinho might stay in is because the argument might be that the front three mightn't have the kind of penetrative paralysis that Coutinho has in his locker, but Joe Allen is starting to get that into his game, I think Allen is kind of a hybrid of, he has a bit of Henderson's game, he's a bit of Coutinho's game, and he's a bit of say Lucas's game, not at the same level, but he has enough of everything that he can come in, especially for the away games and do a job first, that's probably why we went for Conoplianca, so in these kind of games if Sterling was dropping out, he'd still have a winger who's actually quite creative, because Sterling is more of a goalscore, I think in the end of the year, goalscore and white forward, but Allen for me, he'd definitely be coming in at the expense of Coutinho, but I'd say I wouldn't be surprised if it was Sterling the Trapped out again, but I hope not. He's still saying proper best man material, the way you describe him, all right? There'd be no shit and he'd have the rings there, he'd be so efficient, he'd be like "get it, go and get the car" and he'd be like "both, you're all right, bro" The speech would be boring, no, wasn't it? The speech would be boring, it's going to be boring. He'd be with Brandon in that, he'd be like "yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah" Yeah, beautiful, who said that? I don't mean it. If Joe comes in for you, who drops out? Yeah, it's definitely Coutinho, there's no way we should be dropping Sterling again, no way. I think he could fucking cause havoc for you, especially the tree boys, their storage, their staring and swarrs. So no, if Alan is coming in, Coutinho drops out, it really is what way Brandon wants to approach the game. If he wants to kind of keep possession and move the pitch slowly and just stop them from playing, which they can't anyway, it's play Alan and just try and keep ball. If he wants to let them come with us and then catch them quick, it's Coutinho. Simple as that. Yeah, man, the match for Huddies Lot during the week does Ryan start for you, Dave? He does, yeah, and for me, Alan drops out. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, I play Coutinho and Sterling. You're all laughing. I keep saying the same point. The only way we win this game is if we play our game and we blow them out of the water, right? If we are timid, then if we sit back, all traffic will get to us, the crowd will get to us, and all of a sudden, this biggest game of the season that they've got, they've sat bombing down the flanks. And before you know it, we're heading away crosses. So you just can't be honest with defenders. We haven't been asked all season. Why won't we start today? You know, it's like, you know, if you look at the way you like to play, right, they push the throwbacks on, they push their wingers on, which means you need players who are able to operate in different parts of the field. My worry about Alan is he's a tidy passer. You know, he's a very good operator. I'm a big fan of his. I think he's going to have a great future with Liverpool. But, you know, going into those areas, he's going to have a, not a lot of time, but he's going to have to pick the right pass or have a lot of piss. He doesn't have either a killer pass or a lot of piss, which is why I would bring Coutinho and Sterling in. And you go, you try to score, you really try to build up a lead, and then you bring Alan on, you know, second half, shut the game down or, you know, our version of shut the game down, which is scoring at the two. Under normal circumstances, I can see the point. My problem with Coutinho is that he hasn't turned up in a way matches for most of the season. And the home games, he did exactly what you were talking about in terms of Arsenal and Everton at home. Terrier in there, winning snap and getting the ball quick, effective, right? We've gone away from home and he tends to drift out of games. I think, and we mentioned this a couple of weeks back that when you have Coutinho and Sterling, you don't have to play both of them. You have something that you can bring from the bench. And I think in this type of atmosphere, in this type of game, Coutinho again is an option that if you put them on the bench, you can suddenly change the way you play your game. That if you're 1-0 up, let's say, on with 60 minutes on the clock and 1-0 up, and you then take Joe Alan off and everyone's expecting that you slow the game down where instead, you just play much more on the counter. Because they're going to really come at you and then you exploit the space that they're going to leave behind. And Coutinho is the man that will be able to exploit that space in the same way that you want what you want to do is you want to exploit from the start, Sterling's ability to get behind their full backs in ever. And the big thing for me, I mean, I wouldn't be devastated if Alan started instead of Coutinho, but Sterling has to start because that back four that he played against West Brom, which is small in Jones, everyone, Raphael, Sterling, Sturridge and Suarez will just eat them for breakfast if they're on form. Well, maybe we'll just take a look at what the tactics will look like then. Of course, it's very much player-dependent and personnel-dependent. Molly, for you, basically, what do you think the midfields going to look like and then based on that, what approach do you think Brian's going to take? Do you think we're going to go at them from the start? Or do you think we're going to kind of boil their time and hit them on the counter? How would you see it shaping up and with whom? Well, I'm with the evidence when I reckon that Alan will come out and Sterling will go back in because I can't see his being too worried about, you know, the midfield, the carrot, cleverly, and the flexor. So, you know, you're looking at Henderson and Gerard, they'll take care of those all the end of the field. How our approach would be? It's the simplest. We have the same approach, just for our season. Our approach would be attack, attack, attack. Like, if you looked at the Southampton game there last week, as soon as we kicked off, we went for their goals straight away. You know, a lot of teams kick off to play it back, to pass it around. Well, from kick off, we went straight before. And I think that's one we approach really for the rest of the season, and especially against against United. They're not in special defence wise, and if you look at Sterling, Swarridge, and Storage up front, you know his defence must be shaken, they're both tickable facing this weekend. But we're in danger, Ryan, are we off? Not just us, but people in general have been perhaps overly dismissive, but, you know, it is, after all, still united, and they do have a trio of Mata, Rooney and Van Pertie to worry us. Is there anything else we should worry about aside from that clearly obvious threat? Not really? No, honestly, I hope that United fans are absolutely looking forward to this so much. I hope that United fans are getting themselves geared up as best they can so that, and I hope Moiz is doing it to the team as well, so I'm kind of hoping that you know it'd come out, you know, all guns, blades, like this is our World Cup. You know, this is our big game this season, because Rodgers will sit there with his big ass grin on his face, and he'll just be like, "Yeah, take it in, take it in," and he launches it forward, and I think that's how we win. I think the counter-tacking style will work. I think it's either going to be a game similar to the Spurs one, or else it'll be a flip at the coin, it'll be like Arsenal at the Emirates a few weeks ago. I think it could be one of those games where I'm not going to blame it on referees, but it could be something like decisions that don't go against us, or else they'll get Raphael sent off, and we'll stick five goals up their arse. I'm getting a little bit of the fear of basically listening to you and listening to Dave, and the general consensus here, this is going to be one of those matters where I basically fucking age about five more years, which would make me what's that, about 107, so it's going to be fucking horrible, isn't it? Yeah, it's just you're just going to have to sit there for 90 minutes, and with the remote control connection between your ass cheeks, hoping that nothing happens, because, honest to God, no, I'm not messing, because it'll either be- That'll really, really start the waters. I can't feel it to edit that shit out. It must have big buttons on the monitor. It really is. No, it really is. I can see I would not be surprised to see a red card in this game. Maybe for us, who knows, Gerard could put in a challenge similar to four years ago Kenny's debut backers and manager changed the game completely. There's no reason. I don't think we've had to fear in truth, because none of their players really seem that up for it anymore. I can't imagine how much he'd motivate a team. He couldn't motivate everything at away games. I know this is a home, whatever, but I honestly do. I'm feeling confident about it, but at the same time, there's like 50/50 chances. It's just going to be another 2-1 loss or something. Andy, do you think it's going to be his bananas that's allowed to suggest in here? I look at how football can go. The complete opposite way that any of us are talking here. The fear factor is there that they're going to treat this as their final and come at a sudden and raise that game. I was thinking about that, but they haven't raised that game at all. They've had big games, lots of big games, played city. They haven't really raised that game at all against anyone. There's no reason to be sitting here thinking of bollocks. It's possible. I'm not fucking reeling out. They could be. They could be as handy. It's football. We can go either way. We're only starting to talk about how we feel and we'll go. And, personally, we'll get our tactics ready and play the 4-3-3 again. We're going to beat them. Coe convinced me. I think we've probably done quite a lot on the lineup at this stage, and that's not anyone wants to talk about anything else. This is a fair enough. Molly, get us going then with the predictions to round this up. How do you see the game going in terms of a score line? I'm going to go with a 3-1 win, and I think Suarez is going to get a war to leave it going. Lovely. Andy Young, how do you see this one finishing? Yeah, 3-1 as well. 3-1. She's the spirit of daily. Strong in this room tonight. Ryan. For now. Would you care? 4-0. Oh, yeah, we'll later be 2-1, like the City at Eddie Hard, and the Chelsea game. But I think 4-0. Yeah, 4-0. We tank them. Yeah, nice one. What about yourself, Dave? I think we'll win 2-0. 2-0, a nice, comfortable. Wow. Okay, I think we probably edged it as well, but I'd say it'll be tighter. I'd say it might be 2-1. Phil? It's a 1-0. And you're not going to commit. As I said, I said from the off, I just have a feeling they're going to get a scaldy 1-0 against us, as in a reverse of the Julio area when we used to get scaldy 1-0 against them. Like the Carling Cup game. Yeah, just a scaldy 1-0, where we're clearly the better team. Without you getting fucking, I don't know, bouncing off Fellini's arse or something. Fucking ever falls over and it hits him on the knob and it goes in. I don't know, just how things Suarez is going to be on a fucking model for this game. Oh, listen, Andy, I swear to you, I genuinely, every time I logically think of the match, I see us winning the game, right? But football and logic don't always necessarily go hand-in-hand with each other. Which is why you get images of United players knobs knocking the ball over the line. Maybe. Yeah. All right. All right, you're not a player who's a big knob knocking the ball over the line. Lovely. And on that note, let's move on then to our listeners' questions. First one is from regular Tripper James Owens, who wants to know what was your worst experience in an airport. Now, personally speaking, all my airport experiences are shy because everyone thinks I look like a fucking terrorist. So I get stopped. I used to get stopped as an IRA man. Now I get stopped as al-Qaeda, basically, because I just have the head on me. Anybody else actually have anything more slack? Because basically, I'm always stopped. It's shit. Listen, it's not even funny. Next one, Phil, I'm going to ask you because I know you're interested in this topic. This is from James as well, and he's wondering, "If big Anthony El-Dan, big Joe Joyce, fought a dinner nest this Sunday on the 16th of March, who'd win?" I am, given the date now, I'm going to go with Big Joe Joyce. God, why? I think he's just got ruthless aggression built into him, especially around Patty's day. He'll be ready for this fight bar in any man alive. A gentleman away from the time, but definitely, he's definitely gone for it. He's gone for a big time. He sees himself as being the Patty's day hero, and Big Joe Joyce takes this one all day long. Hey, don't mess with that kid. The next one up is from Barry Carr, and Barry has a name-related query for us, and he says, "If you went into witness protection, we don't know why. Where would you live? Where would you work? A lot of name would you pick?" Now, we'll focus on the name, I think. If anyone's got any interesting alias that they'd like to suggest there. It always reminds me of that Simpsons episode, where Homer goes into the witness protection, and they call him, "Your name's Mr. Thompson." He doesn't realise he's talking to him, but he goes, "I think he's talking to you." So I'd go with Mr. Thompson. Mr. Thompson, Moly, I can hear you coming in there, you've got a suggestion. Well, I already have any explanation, but I'll probably call it the alias of Max Power. Again, that comes from the Simpsons, but that has to be the coolest name in the world, isn't it? Max, Max. Yeah, you're in witness protection, you don't want to draw attention. Well, you go with it. I do that. I don't know, but it depends on what country you go with. Yeah, yeah. You know, they look very Irish anyway, so, I mean, you want to go with a sort of local name, you know? Yeah. Slip on that array, right? Right, next one up is from Shiv. And I think this might be his first question to us. And he says, "Which do you prefer on a night out at Vodka or Whiskey?" Right? Pussy. No, no, no, no. Whiskey. Whiskey. Whiskey. Yeah, definitely. Why is that, Chief? I don't like Vodka. I don't, actually, Whiskey kind of makes me cry, so I don't know why I'd pick that, but if I had to, yeah, J.D. J.D. and call it. You tend to get teary. We've got quite a few emotional shots around it. And then it may not flood, he's not here, so we don't, we don't have a usual experience. No, a few cons, and then I'd get confidently out of fun, I'd get a whiskey, and I'd be blowering tiny one out. Anyone there sit beside me? Excellent. Next one's from Toplads, the Redmond TV, and they send in this question. Which TV, movie, or movie inspired tech would you rather have? Would you rather have a hoverboard, a lightsaber, or a talking car? Anyone like to shout an answer in this? Phil's got one. Lightsaber all day long. What are you going to do with that on a daily basis? Oh, carnage. Fucking carnage. Lightsabers. What's anyone going to do to you? Exactly. You can dodge bullets, like this right shoe, or do you want to just walk them away? Fucking imagine a film with a lightsaber. Cues, I don't think so. People in half, you know old, slow people walking on pats? Gone. People with women at ATMs, gone. We sorted. You'll be the best crack ever. You know you don't need a lightsaber to kill all those people. You can do it now with an almost old. A hammer? We'll all be a character witness if you're trying to let go. Abandoned to witness protection as a... Charlie's dodge for those all. Any other shout for the tech hoverboard? Lightsaber all day long. That's easy, hoverboard. Why is that handy? I need to explain it. You do, man. I don't know what you do with a hoverboard, Phil. Go around on it. Nobody else has hoverboards. Go around on it. They're just floating around. Hoverboard boy people. Have you seen that in a fucking viral video for so many years? He's saying they produce the hoverboard and they have a man, the famous fucking skateboard, a fellow and all. Oh, totally hugs. Yeah, yeah. And they're all in hoverboards. Fucking great. It looks amazing. It looks amazing. Imagine a... Look at the video and tell me you don't want the hoverboard after. You just say, "Is that real?" as it is the hoverboard real. No, they're actually working on a genuine prototype, right? It's shit, you're not. It's shit, you're not. Yeah, but what Dave is saying, they produce this. You can go any height. You know, you just move your legs. You know, there's no technical explanation to this issue. This was not a chance or anything on it. It just goes around. It just goes around. The one thing about it is, like, of the tree, only lightsabers and hoverboards don't exist. Yeah, shit, it's talking. There's loads of talking cars. I know. Yeah, well, what about a car with a personality that would fuck me right off? Imagine your car giving you shit in the morning. Seriously. The fucking life isn't difficult at all. Who in life needs more people to talk to? I don't. I don't. You don't want the car talking to you in the morning? You don't. You get into the car with the fucking silence. Yeah. Absolutely. And not really, because we want people to put the fucking podcast on. I'm never going. No, but you don't want to be... Look, you don't talk to the podcast unless you're completely... No, but it's talking to you. It's like a talking car. Hang on. You don't sit there. Oh, shit up, Roy. Now, what the hell are you talking about this time? Yeah, shit up, Phil. Why can't we sit on this? I'm only new. Jesus, I'm not sure. We're going to throw this one in here. This is from Moments of Wanda. And he asks, "This is fucking horrible. Is this a lead-on from last week? It's truly horrible. Would you rather a blowjob off Charlie Adam or a handjob off Jeremy Beedley? Why is it easy? Why would you want fucking Charlie Adam's fucking dirty milk around your knob? Do you know what? When you pull it like that. Jeremy, I presume this is the obvious answer. He's a little handsome. He's a little handsome. He makes your flute look good. I really haven't considered the aesthetic, Sandy. It's a very good fucking podcast. It's fucking nice. I'm going to press that quickly. Jesus Christ, that's fucking magnificent. Will is wondering, if you were a superhero, what would your superpower be? Well, I always thought it'd be great. Again, this is the Simpsons. I watch way too much Simpsons. To be able to stop time, Bada Millos came out across the stopwatch once they were able to stop time and they were able to move around whenever else was frozen. They broke the clock and they were there for like twenty years or whatever. Adrian, my lord, the people were frozen in time. 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Episode 27 lands with an exclusive interview with writer Nicky Allt the man behind the play YNWA - The official History of Liverpool Football Club which has just reopened in Liverpool and is moving to the Gaiety theatre in Dublin at the start April. We talk about how we are going to burn up the Old Trafford pitch and discuss everything you asked us to.Only 2 weeks to the HJC Cup AS EVER EXPLICIT CONTENT - INTENDED FOR ADULT AUDIENCES
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