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Molly gets another tripper's cap and has promised me some cool stats and at least one new shandy-based expression and we finished the show in time-honored fashion with your listeners' questions. Okay before we kick off, we're joined by LFC-TV's Peter McDowell. He'll be in town on Thursday to host a five times event with Diddy Haman and Jamie Karger. Now it would be remiss if it was not to ask him about what's lying. No, but first of all, Peter, who has a better job there? Yourself or George Seft in the voice of Anfield? Yeah, I think we're both fairly lucky. But one thing I would say about it, there was a competition at Potentially George because, you know, I think he's been there since 1974. So I mean you see in everything there is to see trophy parades around the pitch. You know, obviously we're hoping that there's going to be a lot more besides in the future. But if it were a contest, it would probably be a walk around his medals, in a sense, as in comparison to mine. But we're both really lucky. I mean, we're so close to such fantastic times at the minute at Liverpool. I think everybody's got a good feeling about it. And, you know, somebody grew up supporting Liverpool. It doesn't get much better than stood at the side of the pitch. And watching all this go on and being in the tunnel before games. Seeing players in battle-hardened positions like that. I don't think you really get as close to that. Even as a journalist, he's been doing the job for a lot of years. You know, to see players just before they go into battle. I don't think there's too many sites like that. It's pretty insightful, pretty incredible site, really. Yeah, yeah. I'd imagine near the end, we have an awful lot of people. I mean, what is it like, as you say yourself, a fan to grow up and to be working for the club now in official capacity? And has it changed over the years that you've been involved? Like with the various setups changing as well? Have you noticed any change in the experience for yourself? Yeah, I think that there's always going to be changes. And my job, whether it's been presented on radio shows or presented on TV, the job is a lot easier of a result to going well. Because there's nothing worse than fielding calls from fans who are feeling there's other clubs on the slide. So that's the big thing. When results are going well, I think clubs do change. But I've been really lucky. We've had managers like Kenny Dalgleshu, I grew up absolutely idolised. And he's somebody I speak to socially now. And Brendan Rodgers is just a breath of fresh air in that sense. He's somebody that's insightful. You can converse to them about any aspect of the game or actually any aspect of life. He's just a really decent feller. And that is how it changed. I think football, you notice those changes. You notice that swelling staff. There's more massers, there's more TV analysts. There's just a massive swelling staff. But it's all about trying to get the club up to scratch. And it's not a level playing field anymore, is it football at the top level? So it does change. But it's still the game we love. I know we moan about it. We moan about the amount of money in the game. But it's still something that excites me going into work every day. Well, I'd imagine it's immensely exciting at the moment as well. You get that impression from Ben that he's the kind of guy he wants to... Maybe you just stop and talk and put his opinions across to everybody. Is that impression accurate? I think so. I think there's an element of where Brendan's coming from. When he comes to a big club and I think he's learned sometimes how being manager of Liverpool, football club is different to being manager of Swansea City with respect. Everything is front page, back page news now, isn't it, with Liverpool manager? Everything he says can be turned into a headline. Whereas at Swansea, I think time's a little bit different. So I think there's been a subtle change in Brendan. I think he's been a bit more careful when he's going before TV cameras. They're about what he says because our people make mischief now, particularly what we all know that the companies that do it. But I think sometimes it's not for a game is it? So I think he's got to be a little bit careful with that. He's got to rein himself back a little bit. I think it would be a shame if it went that way too much because he's a fantastic communicator and the players love him. And I think the fans are coming around, even the doubters now. I mean, they've gone missing. I've heard of people that doubted whether that was a good appointment in the first place. You don't hear too many of them anymore. But yeah, I think you're right in what you say. He's an enthusiast, not just about football, but about life as well. You'd love to sit next to Abdino. He's a really, really top guy. Well, on that note of positivity, what can you tell us to expect on Thursday night at the five times gig? That's a different thing altogether. Do you know what we came to Dublin in summer and we tried something out? There's a great guy involved with Liverpool's former players at the moment, called Robin Grimes, who came up with the idea of five times and really trying to... Well, there were three things really. Obviously, they want to try and get players busy and they want to get them out working, get them on the stick and all the rest of it. But they actually support players that have played in the dim and distant past and maybe they're struggling financially, the organization's been set up to try and help them. And it's also trying to get across to places like Dublin, which I don't think these kinds of lads have done enough of. We had John Barnes, Ian Mulby, John Olgards, Jason McIntyre and Diddy Haman. And it was like the best stag that you've ever been on in your life for two days. It was fantastic. We went to Belfast first, came to Dublin on the Friday. And it's just the appetite, I think. You know, the appetite for Liverpool. You know, we're lucky we live on the doorstep. I think an awful lot of fans, based in Liverpool, based across Merseyside, can sometimes be guilty of taking it for granted that they've got the club on the doorstep. Was you go to Ireland? I mean, the gig was fantastic. But afterwards, you know, seeing fellas in their 40s and 50s and in tears, seeing these guys that they're growing up idolizing because they've got an autograph. Drake played a part of that with a lot of... Probably a little bit, yeah. You know, it was also the fact that they couldn't believe that this thing had arrived in Dublin. And very few things shake somebody like young Mulby, you know, the coolest guy you'll ever meet in your life. Yeah. But, you know, singing, you'll never walk alone. And, you know, he comes backstage at the end and he's like, that was unbelievable. You know, what a night that was. Yeah. So I think there's going to be a slightly different feel this time because, you know, Jamie's not on the circuit, the other five lads were. Did he a man's not truly on the circuit either, but there was only really one city, I think, was a natural place to try and that was Dublin. Jamie doesn't want to go on the circuit. He doesn't want to go into after dinner speaking and with the greatest one in the world, he doesn't have to because, you know, the game's been good to him and he's got a good career now. Head of them as well in TV. But as soon as he found out it was for the ex players, then, you know, he didn't have any hesitation. He said it's to help the boys out then, then brilliant and what a city to go to. But this, I think, principally will be, you know, two parts on the night. The first part will be about the Champions League and two players, arguably, who had the biggest impact on the night. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to finding out two very separate stories from Jamie Carriga, who played, put his body on the line. And then you've got Diddy, a man who, you know, didn't play a part in the first half. Actually, he didn't hear that half-time team talk either because he was out on the pitch being warmed up. He is the coolest man in football, Diddy, huh, man. And I'm just really looking forward to finding out from those two lads who are still very close now as to what those two separate mindsets were from somebody who lived that game and was sat in the dressing at my half-time wondering about what was about to happen. And a substitute coming on to think, well, what kind of impact can I make on this? It's just going to be about damage and limitation. And then the second part, I think, will be about the current day. I'll give the fans over there on the night the chance to ask some questions, questions that they've always wanted to find out from the lads, and a couple of special surprises along the way as well, I think. Excellent. Well, that all sounds very, very exciting. And we're looking forward to being there in the night and meeting yourself as well. Peter, so thanks so much for the background on that. OK. We'll get straight into our postmortem of the mentalism that occurred and I'm feeling Sunday as we grimaced our way through Liverpool 4 and Swansea 3. There's a very kind of interesting cadaver for us to pour over here, some delightful stuff, some pretty gruesome discoveries as well. I suppose we better start with something positive, if we can. Maybe focus on one or two of the players that were immense on the day. I know some fellas have different opinions here about the various impact of various people, but Jordan Henderson, Damian Flood, pretty immense performance, I think, with a great strength, energy, leadership. Even when Coutinho maybe had a quieter match during the first half of a quieter match, but wow, he just got better and better as the game went on. I think right from the start of the game, Jordan Walker, as normal, was phenomenal. The game, as I said last week in the pod, will become very, very stretched. Swansea played that way. When I watched the game last week in Sanapoli, I tweeted at the time, and I actually sent the text to Phil as well. Look how deep that Swansea air compared to their front line. I think there was 50-60 air between them. The game was always going to go that way. We loaked when we loathed possession to drop in and come compact and throw down break in numbers when we do. But on Saturday, it didn't really happen that way for us on Sunday. The whole game just opened so much that we actually reload heavily on the amount of work that Jordan actually got to for us, because Shelby was making a lot of dangerous runs that was causing us problems. But Henderson absolutely walked his socks out for us on Sunday. I thought you were a phenomenon. But there was a lot of quality there as well added to the industry. Yeah, I think it's sort of this game that, okay, it's overlooked a lot of the time. He is very, very accomplished in possession of the ball. I think at once it gets overlooked, which I think is harsh against him, because he is very, very neat and toyy and he keeps high amount of possession of the ball. He didn't put a foot wrong, and it's only for me. And the other goals in that has been questioned about this game that he doesn't score on with cultures is great again. Like if he comes up in another couple like that, fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. Peter, would it be fair to say that Henderson is one of Roger's success stories really since he's come to the club? Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, I can remember when I was at LFC-TV in my last spell and Brendan Rodgers hadn't long joined my club then. And I can remember interviewing him when he was out of the team. And he'd not really had too much game time under Brendan Rodgers. And obviously the Fulham thing came about not too long after. But I asked him a question about, you know, what he thought about Brendan Rodgers. And he was absolutely waxing lyrical about him. And I said, you know, if you don't mind me saying, it's very unusual for a player that's not in a team to be talking that way about a man who's ever left him out. And he said, but what he's done is, you know, he's told me exactly what I need to do to get back in that team again and to become a player that can, you know, physically exist in the system and the way he wants to play. And there's two things you can do, isn't there, as a football? If you, you know, not in a team, then you can circle. You can go somewhere else and play for a team that's not as good as Liverpool. And he's decided to dig his heels in. He's had that sample of what it's like at Liverpool. And he wants to make a successive himself. And I think he's got a bit of a swagger, isn't he? You just see the way he is on the pitch now. He's given out to players who he doesn't think are doing well enough in the side. And maybe at the start, he was maybe just grateful to be part of that Liverpool thing. And, you know, I think he's been given a specific role now. And he's a leader out there, isn't he? Every part of his game has moved on. And, you know, you see him say he's an Englishman being part of a big World Cup for England potentially this summer. I think as a starting player, I don't think he, you know, he needs to be part of the squad. I look at Jordan Henderson at the moment and think he has to start for England. You know, I think that's how good he is. Yeah, I suppose he does a lot of second-guessing of a fellow, all too familiar to us from the past as well. But, Molly, Jordan Henderson, we've had some glowing reports from there from Peter, would you agree? Oh, I can't call 100% for Peter. For me, Henderson has to go to the World Cup. For me, he's actually probably the best midfielder in England at the moment. You know, that's in a lot of protocol. That's true, yeah. He's been sampled as a pub. Yeah, I really think he is. I think at the current time, he's probably the best English midfielder, I should say. Right now, you know, and to sooner, he's tied on to New Deal a bit better. You know, during the game, it was actually quite a surprise when Sterling came off for that in his wedding. Because I thought, Coutinho, when you mentioned him there, I thought he had a very quiet game, the game seemed to pass him by. But what I have to say about Rogers is, the three substitutions he's made was absolutely bang on. He got everyone from right, and the huge credit has scored him for this. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So, you look like you're at, Molly, he's once in throw up there, so please do. No, nice cough there, yeah. He's always the one who wants in throw up. I'm always waiting, and you're just about to tell a thank-all. Just prepared to do it. I thought, I touched on what Molly said. For me, anyway, I thought Henderson started a bit slow. Yesterday, I thought there was a big gap between him and Gerard in the midfield. I think that it probably comes to the way we've been set up, and being hyper-attacking in terms of being at home. And I thought he grew into the game, particularly in the second half, in terms of Henderson. But I think an awful lot changes with the Joe Allen substitution. Yeah, in fact. Fundamentally, how we played, and what we were doing, and what Henderson was then able to do, changes, because I think, I remember when, just before he scored, his four-scored Henderson, I was thinking to myself, you know, he hasn't really helped out Gerard defensively, and didn't seem to be covering as much ground as normal. I think, Dave, we talked about it as well, that Shelby was getting the run of that area that was just the front of Gerard, and just behind where Henderson and Catania was. But in fairness, once Allen comes into the fray, I think Allen and Henderson are a great tandem. When we're up against teams who have a good, strong midfield sense about them, and Swansea are one of those teams that midfield operates as a function in unit. It's something we touched on a while back. I think, on that point, I think it was not as well yesterday, that when Allen came on, Henderson actually dropped deep right to play the side. Allen rather than playing 10 yards forward with beside Catania. Well, again, again, we sort of mentioned it last week, that in terms of the way the two had been working, there wasn't as much of a gap between Gerard and the two, for the good performances that we'd put in. And even with Fulham, there was that, again, a gap happened in that match, and it wasn't until that gap was narrowed with Gerard moving that before the forward, to get closer to Catania and Henderson and the noise. And then, as I turned out, once I shared, I came in as well, that the teams didn't have the space to play against us. And that's really where Swansea had created most of their danger initially in the game. And now we come on to where they created most of their danger, full stopboard, in terms of what I think Henderson showed a real level of character. And it's one thing as well in what's gone on, is that the level of character in these players over the course of the season is really, really strong. And you could see it even at Trio, like previous years, we could have gone on to lose that game. Shuffle it on one there to Joe Allen, you mentioned briefly there, it was more than just a shape that certainly magicked into being when he came on. It was more than his talent or his ability. The intensity was amazing from Allen. You know, it was just remarkable. Yeah, we touched it last week as well, just on Joe Allen. When John comes back, he's the target player that he fully believe needs one, two, three games to get his form and his ability open in terms of what he is. He's a real player that needs those couple of games, and then he's into his groove and he looks a different player. Sort of the same happened when he came back against everyone at that time, got a couple of games and then went into sports, and he was unbelievable against sports when it was Henderson Allen and Lucas that day. And again, he comes on and he's straight into the pace of the game. Look, we've seen him come on when he came back from injury and it took him a while to get up to the pace of the actual game. He was straight in and he made such a difference in that midfield. Just again, it becomes a unit, a much more functional unit because they were up against a good midfield in Swansea's midfield itself. I also think that Shelby going off, it's something for all the go that we did, Shelby goes off and Swansea didn't have that player that was, Canius didn't provide the same options in front of error, in front of Gerard and in that space as Shelby had in the fourth half. Let's give credit to Shelby because he fully deserved, he had a wondrous fourth half for them. He was dropping into the dangerous arms, scored an absolute cracker of a goal. He looked like the player that he showed glimpses of when he was at Liverpool. You're looking at me and you say he has great potential in himself. And as much as we're saying that Jordan Henderson looks phenomenal, chances Shelby in that game showed what potential he actually could have to go to the next level as well. I think that's exactly what has happened with Shelby. He's got the opportunity like Henderson did this season, he's got that at Swansea. He was never going to get it at Liverpool. There was just too many people ahead of him. And for every time he showed a glimpse of potential and he thought, yeah, that's why we bought him. There was too many games whereby he just didn't perform, unfortunately, I think. No, he's a first name on the team sheet or he's a guaranteed name on the team sheet every week for Swansea. That's what the lab needed. To be fair as well, Steve, it might sound like a little bit of a backslap and moment for us as Liverpool fans. But you don't get that reaction to his goal on any other grand deal. No, no, no. It was quite stunning to see that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And to be fair, I think the reaction, I'm trying to remember now, but I think the reaction may have come from the way he celebrates. He was almost apologetic. Sorry, I smashed that one in the top corner, you know? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Stephen Brand, Daniel Storage, a man who is, to be fair, I think, criminally underrated. I know people talk about his goals and he is a star in aim and all the rest of the book. This fella is on fire. He is a wonderful footballer and I don't think just half enough being said about it because he's playing alongside the lab. He's playing alongside who's won the best in the world, but it fell as a mens for us this year. And whatever question, the goal record, even taking everything else that he does out of the game, the goals per game record is phenomenal. At the moment, that's the hoist in Europe. I had her an idol, I had her messy, I had everything of it. He's not that level yet, but he's on the way. He's, in my eyes, storage at the moment on form is every bit as good as Torres was at the peak of his powers with us. He just ate and ate, ate goals and ate, straightly, games now. There's only one player to stolen. More than him and that's Van Nesteroy when he was absolutely ruining the mochrean oil. He just, he goes onto the page and looks like he's going to score every game, every chance. And they're not easy chances. With the two goals, yes, they weren't easy chances. The first one he had a lot to do, especially after last week with the Arsenal game, obviously in the back of his mind, he's thinking Troy to go around Fabianci twice didn't come off. So the first, within the first three minutes, he has a ball slip tree one on one with the keeper. And it was the question, what does he do? And just the calmness that she just look up, go around the keeper and just slide it into the net. The second goal of the header was just brilliant positional play from him. You can see him actually pull off the back of Ashley Williams and he was left himself five yards of space and it's the same, but look simple, but it really, really isn't. It's just an intelligent play, but Peter, would that be fair to say? And where does Dan and storage rate for you in terms of the strikers you've seen in your time there watching? Yeah, he's right up there, isn't he? It was interesting, I missed it, it was a mention at the top, I don't think he's been given quite the credit that he deserves. We were only talking about that today, a couple of mates of mine, you know, you look at what he's done, I think he's averaging a goal, something like every 86 minutes now, 17 Premier League goals, 20 and all, I mean, he's incredible. And you're actually struggling to find a weakness in his game, aren't you as well, you know, and to have two players like that, Suarez and storage, and you've all played football before. If you've got someone who can score goals and somebody who can keep them out at the other end, then you've got half a chance and, you know, storage is frightening. Were he ranks? I don't know, I mean, I don't think we've seen the best of him yet either, I think that's the other big thing. I think we're still to see the very best consistently week in, week out, and as he gets to know teammates, and you know, he's made a couple of areas here and there, I don't think we'll see him repeat again. I firmly believe the best is still to come from him. That's a very exciting concept, indeed. Molly, his partner up top, Luis Suarez, such a remarkable footballer, this ongoing drought that he has at the moment, when he's playing like he is playing, when he's contributing, he says... 23 goals and he's under drought? Well, yes, yes. What do you think about it? So when he's playing like he is, Molly, when he's contributing assists, which he's basically replaced his goals with, should we care? I mean, is this something we even worry about? Well, he's on a bit of a drought, but it shouldn't be here, I'd say no. Like Suarez has now got a goal or assist every 62 minutes in a league. That's just basically after every hour, he's either to score a goal or to assist in a goal. Whatever you look at, that is a phenomenal record, it really is. You know, so he's up to nine assists at this stage, which is to join top in your Premier League. The only worry I have at this stage is that it's going to be late in the season and you might feel a little peckish, but other than that, he can carry on with his goal. I don't think about it, he's not scoring goals, really. Like this guy has just got a will to win. That's all he wants. He just wants to team to win. He doesn't care if he's going free or his storage or minimally, you know, he doesn't care as long as Liverpool can get three points. You do see him get frustrated on the pitch right when storage hasn't cleared through or whoever hasn't cleared a ball over to him. But I think that's more of a attitude that he knows is in position. He knows he can finish it and he knows the scores, the likelihood is that Liverpool wins. So it's not that he hasn't scored, it's just that he hasn't had the opportunity to put that win for Liverpool. Yeah, I'll tell you the best thing I can say about Suarez, even going through this, a man can make a man who absolutely despoises him, right? He's out with him on Saturday night. And we were just talking about you know, we're now looking more proud of you and you know, Messi, you know, what do we see in the World Cup? And he even turned around and said, you know what, Suarez is now in the bracket with those two guys. He said, he said, look, I don't like him as a person and everything like that because of everything it went on. He says, but he says, look what he's done. He said, I'm more so than even Messi, he's gone to now different leagues and he's replicated the farm in every league he's gone to. Like he blitzed the Dutch league when he was there. He's now gone to the English league and replicated the farm where he was just scoring freewheel as it was. We're talking, he's 23 goals in 27 games in the league. Like, do you know what I mean? He missed the first five. No, and he missed 22 games. But this is like, it's a goal a game in reality to what he's torn around in. And yes, he's missed if he hasn't scored in a few games, but he's built enough up in the bank to keep his goal a game record. And the one thing you can bet your bottom dollar on is that he'll score before the end of the season and he'll probably score another five, six, seven goals. And if you're sent to forward a score in 20 goals a season, and I don't care, that's it. That's the return that you want out of all. And he can't ask more than that. Listen, I would be absolutely astounded if he doesn't have 30 goals within this season. But do you still have to manage the desired trick in there? Yeah, there's a free hat trick anyway. Do you not find yourself wins in the over last few games and saying, because you're willing him to just absolutely burst records wide open. You know what I mean? Yeah, especially with the five game absence, you just like you want them to just burst. Just so you can say to everybody at the end of the season, have you seen what I've done? I've seen this guy, yeah. This guy missed the first five games. And also, and also to have no, not a hint of doubt about who the player of the year is, because he is so far ahead of everyone else in that league in terms of ability and consistency over the course of this season, that if he isn't player of the year, it's a, it's a first. It's a first, it's a fraud and it's a shame, because the, the, the chap is just, and all Grero has been brilliant for City and has it been great for Chelsea, but they're still not in the same category as Louis Suarez has been for Liverpool this season. Grero's not far off. For me, Suarez is the best player in the world right now. He really is, I'd, I'd create him above Missy and Ronaldo, and I'd watch Ladder, the Spanish footballer on Sky Sports. I'd read him above those two leds. I suppose we better look at some of the less, uh, fluffy, happy stuff. Um, let's be honest, the defence was terrifying and, uh, can I ask you one question to, to get, get the ball rolling here and feel free to jump in, anyone here. Why can we never, ever defend crosses, ever? We could, we caught up up. We did last week when we had Alisa Zouco and John Flanagan fall back. Okay, and I see where we're going with this. No, but we, we've been able to defend crosses at certain points short in the season and with certain personnel that's been in the team. Um, and we, we've stemmed the flow of crosses more so with, with, when Zouco was in the team now, look, we've, we've, we're going to, I know we're going to do this and I know we've done it previously as well, right? But as, as a defensive unit, we perform better in terms of defending against crosses when we had good defending fallbacks in the actual team. The fact is Glenn Johnson's not a good defensive fallback. Um, and I, I, you know, I, I, I could throw the argument out that, you know, this is forced going back after injury and the whole lot, right? But in, in that instance, I thought the selection was wrong because it would have been better to put him on with a half an hour to go and get a minute as opposed to throwing him in against a Swansea team who had the likes of Dyer on one flank, he was going to get at him, especially when you're playing him at left back. With Zouco coming off good form as well. Um, I just, what, what annoys me is that he, he was just, he was so poor defensively. He was so poor positionally. It was, it was a car crash waiting to happen all the time. You're just looking, there was, he gave, he played a couple of great troubles for Swansea at certain points as well that needed Agra to get him out of jail. And I know Agra was the one that was taken off, but for the life of me, it was, it was a lot of, it was a trouble as to who you're going to take off between Skirt, Lager, and Johnson when the decision was finally made. Um, it's a shame really because he has, he has on dealt with talent as, as a fallback, but I think my biggest concern is that if this was, if this was something that hadn't happened, um, for a while pre-injury, but it was, he started to step back into the same form that he had, um, pre-injury and we, we put it down that he was carrying injury and, and wasn't up to the, you know, who couldn't achieve the level that he had, up until he got injured previously in the actual season. Stay on that for one second then. What do you make of comments, maybe the day before the match from Brandon saying, look, this guy, yeah, contract needs to be sorted, but this is the guy we want to keep. We want to keep a player like this at the club and it feeds back into what we said before at the competition. Does Glenn, is Glenn just automatic and does he know that? Is, is that part of the situation? Well, I, I think there's, I think there's an element in that, I think because if, if you can come back in after an, an injury spell and go straight back in and replace a guy who'd been playing so well in, in, in, at least a soco, um, and, and I know, and listen, I'm not, I'm not saying that soco is, is, is the best left fall in Europe or is even the best left fall in the club, right? I'm just saying that he'd put in a decent run of form. He hadn't made any mistakes and he looked like he was solid. Okay. We know he, he doesn't offer much on the ball or an attack in sense, but I'm just looking at it saying, you know, it was, he didn't need to be bombed out of the team to put Johnson back in because Johnson was fit again. Um, I would, I would have preferred to see the soco play and give Johnson minutes towards, so that you build them up gradually and hopefully build them up a confidence and, and with a lead on the board so that, you know, if a mistake happens, it's not something that's going to lead to one all and then two one and then two all and then, you know, even the cross, I know Sterling fell over, but the cross stems from the same side. Dyer makes the run for the force goal and goes straight across himself and Agran lays the ball off to, to Shelby who, who'd found space. And then Johnson was marking Boney at the, when, when the free kick is taken. Um, and gets, and, and Boney doesn't do much to lose him. And he ends up getting the header on, on, on the actual thing as well. So, you know, that's three mistakes there. Damian Flod is a fair to say that Brandon really didn't do him any favors, but he not only started him, and, and, and, but persevering when, when, when the kid was clearly off form. I mean, the little moment at the end, remember where he, he just laid down the ball and said, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I see the clock out. That just summed it up to me. And he just wanted it over. Yeah, the whole game, the fellows just, he was so poor. Ruth and the start, um, the, the field has been talking about it there. Like, on the force goal, like, that, that's a simple base. What he does wrong there. Um, like, we've all been taught as a fullback. You showed it, the player, the loin, and, and then your, your center half covers. He, he shows him in solid, but he doesn't really show him when any particular way. Like, I know an Air Force goal, uh, storage is, does their full bike. Their full bike hounds him, absolutely hounds him right across the edge of the box. And he, he manages to get it by Johnson just fucking let them go. He doesn't even track him across. He just, it's, it's really like, I'm not taking responsibility. It's like he doesn't want to take responsibility for anything at the moment. The, the second goal then, it's floated in. He doesn't make any effort to stay with Boney. Like, it kind of, run us half blocked. And he doesn't, he should kind of have a little grasping, a little hole in them. Um, and then the Torgo comes from actually himself. I think he gives away possession. And then staring at this a bit, he's involved in it. He's messing around on that sword. Now it wasn't directly a fault, but like, it's coming down that flank. And I said to you, I thought they targeted his flank in particular, because when you think about the game, most of their attacks seem to come through door down that sword. They seem to just really target that flank. Oh, I would say Roger's thinking that this is that, okay, we, we want Johnson on the ball in this game. We want to get Hoyle, we want to get three or four goals in this game. And I don't think a pound out the way he expected it probably. And for them to come back with the way he did, then what do you do? Like, he actually destroyed the man's confidence. It's probably struggling as it is. The whole mob's going to destroy it completely. So he's probably thinking let's leave him on and what's, what's the lesser, the, the two? Bad players like us. I think it's a double-edged sword there as well from, from what Brian's done. Um, because I think what you've got now is a fella who's even more devoid of confidence after coming in. Yeah, that's kind of what it's driving like, yeah. And, and Suzoko sitting there thinking, "What the fuck have I done wrong?" You know what I mean? I've been solid and, and this, believe me, as we all know, I'm, I'm someone that's the only number to start. But he's done nothing wrong in, in a number of games now. And I'm actually not certain that we need, okay, I won't say we don't need Glenn Johnson when he's on top form. But I'm not sure we need marauding fullbacks in the way we're playing at the moment. I think what we need is a solid back four. That's, that's actually willing to sit. And, and maybe not add as much to the attack, as what Johnson would have in his, in his absolute pump, you know, last season when he was, when he was flying and, and being discussed about, you know, as, as one of the top right backs. I think having a, you know, a Flanagan and a Suzoko there, just to keep things stable is actually a positive for us at the moment. Well, what, Stephen, what we're talking a little bit about how John Flanagan might be just that player that you've described, the solid guy who maybe doesn't offer just as much going forward. But before we do that, Stephen Brennan, all you wanted to speak about are central defensive part, the ship of Skirtland Eiger, led a merry dance there by Boney in many ways. shenanigans at the back, every time Swansy got the ball, every cross was hard to talk and juicing. Colo came in, Colo, Colo was meant to, the campaign's down, Colo nearly got all the most spectacular long goals we've ever seen. What, what do we, what do we make of the two lads on the day and what was your take on them? We, as bad as, as, as bad as Eiger and Skirt looked yesterday, it comes from the fullbacks. We had a conversation about this with regards to Skirtland not being as comfortable with Johnson and Roy Fall as he is with Flanagan. Right. And they looked yesterday as though Eiger wasn't as comfortable with Johnson at left full as he would have been with the so-go. Okay. It's as if, no one in the back five, including the keeper, trust each other, they all seem to trust Flanagan, who's the youngest and least experienced a lot of them, but they don't seem to trust the international players that have 14, 50, 60 caps between, like, each. It's, yesterday was laughable. Like, the penalty doesn't happen if Skirtland chose Eiger, because Eiger won the ball cones, but he was never getting across in front of Eiger, but Skirtland didn't trust him. It's, Colo Torek came on and calmed everything down. Like, that's a statement that you never thought you'd say. Did you feel calm and cold arrived? Not even feel calm, but he calmed Skirtland down. He made Skirtland look better. He made Skirtland look more solid than he was. I'll tell you one thing that Torek did when he came on, right? He knew that there was 20 minutes left on the clock, right? And he took no chances, and now Brendan is a big advocate of playing out from the back of the whole lot, right? But the one thing Torek did was, look, we have a result here. If nothing gets passed, again, we have the three points in the bag. And he took no, like, he just didn't take any risks. He cleared his loins as best as he could and when he could. And, you know, in certain games, especially in a game like that, which was Evan and Flon, and we were making mistakes at the back. There was uncertainty that was going on. Better off, clear your loin. You're not going to... Look, we come out with three points, and it's not something that he should be criticized in that instance for what he did. Look, I'm a fan of Torek, and I think my take on the partnership is if I was looking at the center halves that we have, I think that Skirtland's Sacco are a great combination, because when they play together, it was very solid. And I also think Tore and Agar are a combination, because I think both Sacco and Tore provide a physicality that neither Skirtland or Agar provides when they play at center half. And if you play Skirtland Agar, they can get bullied by opposing center fours in the way that Boney did, and in the way that Lukaku did in the Derby, in Gourson. As well as the physicality... Sorry for your office. As well as the physicality, they don't provide leadership when they play together Skirtland Agar. For some reason, they don't see it. I don't buy that, because I've seen Agar lead the defense, and I've seen him top very well, and the whole lot. The other thing you've got to take into account with Agar as well, is that he is coming back, he was the second guy, and back at the second full, going back at start after injury. So there's a bit of that going into it, but Agar can be a leader in that defense. But you know yourself, if a couple of mistakes have happened on the day, and you've given away soft goals, that leadership can be hard to find, and the one thing that Kolo does is he brings leadership into that back four when he comes on. Where everyone's a bit nervous enough, but he does bring it in and calms you down. Well, that's it, and you talk about calm and shit down, clearing your lines and just being no nonsense. Didn't it sum up the game that the poor pair had in both Johnson and Skirtland, that when Glenn tried to clear his lines, he kicked it off Skirtland's head, and then he went in for a long goal. I mean, that moment was just horrific. And Moly, let's sort of bring it back up again. John Flanagan maybe wasn't as impressive as he's been in the first half, but boy, god, he played his way into that game, didn't he? Well, I said a couple of weeks ago that Flanagan, for me, should be our number one fullback. And it doesn't bother me if he's on the right hand side or the left hand side. Flanagan, for me, should probably be the fifth, sixth clear on that team sheet after your sterling swarms and storages, gyrards. Flanagan is next up for me. He's been that impressive. Now, to the first half, you're right. He was kind of a slow start for him, wasn't it? He wasn't up to his usual standards. But the second half, the multi-character that he showed, you know, he was absolutely fantastic. Again, I'd ask you, from the left hand side to the right hand side, even though I know he's naturally right footed, I think he makes a better left back than he does a right back. Winning rods forwards on the left hand side, he likes to cut in to his right foot, and he can pass the ball and continue, puts it in the true ball to storages the swarms river. On the right hand side, he tries to whip in that ball, and crossing is one of his weaknesses. But, you know, that could be worked on in terms of how he sits to the young kid. I'd be new old to impress him since he came in. Peter, we're speaking about John Flanagan there, and we're talking about how, you know, he's got tremendous potential. But as a fella who's local, it's extra special, listening to have a go down good coming through. Yeah, and I think there's a desperation as well in this part of the world, that's to see him succeed. You know, you speak to people like John Aldridge and, you know, people who've come through the local ranks. And I think it does mean a little bit more. And, you know, he's come through, he's had that period where, you know, he came from nowhere to play, then he's had to go back out and respond again, hasn't he? And, you know, Brendan Rodgers, I know, is somebody that's really keen on him, not just for the ability that he's shown on the pitch, but for that character that he's shown off it. And we've heard that time and time again, haven't they? We'll play as he doesn't just mention the fact that they're, you know, particularly good in the position that they play, or they fit into that system. It's all about the character that they've shown. And, you know, he's the most unassuming lad you'll ever meet John Flanagan as well. Doesn't particularly like doing interviews, very shy. And as I say, you know, a real desperation in this part out of the world to see a scalar come through. And, you know, there's nothing to say that he couldn't be Liverpool's full-back choice that left or right back for the next 10 years. And, you know, they'd be very proud to see that tradition come on, just like with Jamie Carriga. And I know he's given him lots of help in there and, you know, still text him after games to tell him what he's done really well, what he needs to improve on. I think that's a lovely part of it as well. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, I suppose that kind of helps us move a little bit on towards our preview of Southampton vs Liverpool next Saturday evening. Liverpool need to help their away game on the run-in. And they've got a lesson impressive on the road record. It's been one of the few negatives this year. So transitioning in from one talk about defence to the other, what does the defence look like, Stephen Daly? Does Brandon try to go with stability? Name the same for, again, consistency or is there a change? I'd prefer to see a change. I'd like to see Johnson come back out. I personally would. I'd like to see Cecil go back in at left full and leave it with Flanagan. And Cecil go on the way. I don't think he's going to bring Torre back in. It's possibly advisable, given the fact that they're going to be playing against Ricky Lambert, and big, strong physical forwards, 10 to score goals when Agar and Skurgle period, you know, period at centre half. But I don't think he will. In saying that, you know, I think, I think Brandon's being very courageous in his spot in the problems yesterday. And he's done that a few times this season, where he's seen something not working and has dealt with it early. And he did it yesterday by, like we said, it was either Johnson or Agar for the hook. And it happened to be Agar that got it. So where that leaves him now coming up to the weekend, I don't know. But I think he may just, it's his vice captain at the end of the day. I think he might just have that little bit. In the same way he's talking about Johnson getting a new contract. Admittedly, that was before they came yesterday. So maybe he's had to think about things, but no, in our series. No, no, no, we shall do it next week. Yeah, listen, I'll get one of the lads to give you a shout, yeah. We'll get back in on that. Oh, I forgot my pen. No, but in our seriousness, I would like to see it going back. I don't think Sasoko has done anything to be dropped yesterday. I think it was a bad move. We got the points. Listen, I'll be honest with you. I don't care what the lineup is. I really couldn't care anymore. That's a show, what? What's that about? Well, I mean my dad is, I don't care. You mean it's just a Liverpool pardon? Come on, you ever told you? Which I blew my component. That was my region. If this season ended tomorrow, we'd be happy. Yeah, wouldn't bother me, Moly. I'd prefer the extra three points to go ahead of Arsenal, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what? I've said it to the lads today. I want us to finish level on points with Arsenal. And that spanking at Anfield would be the reason we finish ahead of them. It would fucking make my year for that to happen. I would absolutely love it. I'd give up finishing three or four points ahead of them, just to finish level with them and beat them on goal. Go ahead, Moly. It was a bad strain in New Delhi. A bad strain, a close of blue that you're OK. True case of yours, I've come in there. Yeah, again, similar to what Stephen said. I'd personally, I'd have to worry back in the team. And I'd probably leave Scarlett with this one and pull Agar and Agran Tory. Oh, it comes back to what I said a few months ago. I believe that the Tory Agar partnership is a good partnership and they have a better conference between them. And that was the one that was racking up the clean sheets at the start of the season. And they had two on the bounce. I know Agar then missed the normal ones. Listen, two on the bounce are made of old partnership. Two on the bounce is two on the bounce, right? It's a winning run. But yeah, I'd stick them in. I'd agree, and this is so good. But for me, it comes back to the sundown. It reminds me an awful lot of the sundown game away, where we just wanted to get the three points and make sure we got them on the board earlier in the season. And one of the things that happened that day was that Mignale was very domineering around his box. Now, the thing that people have to remember about Mignale when he came was he wasn't the type of goalkeeper that was quick off his line and do this. And we've had many conversations on this about him in terms of the sort of goalkeeper he is and the whole lot, right? And I just want to see him come. He's a flapper. And that's what he was at Sunderland. He punched the stuff more. He pushed off a way more than clear catches. But at least he was coming. And I think an awful lot of uncertainty we talked about stemmed from the fact that he wasn't quite sure whether to come or not to come. And there was a few times he saw about Skirtle and even Torrey when they came on, torn around and said, look, will you come for it? Come with that. That's your ball. I shouldn't be clearing it from here. It's starting to let a couple of right goes. Yeah, exactly. It's just it's it's it's that if we go with that back for, I'd like to think that they're saying to someone, listen, you need this is where we need to be brave. If we're going to go and get finished toward, or finish higher in the actual league, this is where we need balls. We need courageousness and we need bravery. And you need this is where you need to step up now and show what we've heard last week, your next level, your next level, right? You're an unbelievable shot stepper. Now let's let's do it. You're better at if you're going to make a mistake, don't make a mistake for being hesitant and not being sure about comma for something. Make it because you can't you made the right decision and didn't execute properly. Not that you want them to make a mistake, but you know what I mean? It's like make it for making the make a mistake. If you're going to make a mistake, make it doing the right thing, as opposed to doing the wrong thing. Yeah, quite happy. Well, stay there and I'm going to come to a couple of people on this. This particular match since Brandon took over, and Pochitino's been since Pochitino's been appointed. It's not gone well for Brandon. He's been, look, apparently or ostensibly anyway, out taught. It's a it's a massive game for him, isn't it personally? Well, both them times we played them was exactly what I was saying. They let us have possession of the ball, and the hoarders then in transition. And that's what we are normally weak in transition. So both times he's got to tackle his spot on against us. I think Brandon might have learned something from the last two times he played us and he might just try to turn it on the set and let them have possession of the ball. And we've hatched them in transition. But that's why I would approach the game. I knew him himself. Yeah. Steve Delhi, would you concur there with Mr. Floyd's tactical thoughts? Yeah, myself and Phil were at the game at Anfield earlier in the season and for our sins. No, to be fair. So as I was wretched. Oh, you were, sorry, I forgot you were at that one as well, yeah. Um, like, Yeah, remember, you wouldn't call for a point to us afterwards. Yeah, you could come up with stupid excuses. I don't ask you like, "Oh, it left me dog outside." I'm growing my hair. Yeah. Oh, bonjour. That's fucking great. To be fair, I have no hair in my head now for the two of us. Steve, are your hairs not coming anywhere near me? You're pretty good to the game. Um, yeah, you're not off. Okay. To be fair, Jared had an amazing free kick saved early in the game and it could have been a completely different match. We look nerdy. It was early in the season. We played that game again. Now, we won't be having this conversation. But I'm nervous because it's getting, you know, so close to the end of the season now. I'm not nervous because I think Southampton are actually going to be a better side than us. And that's my honest opinion. We have been ropey on the road, but you know what I think? People are overshootin' that a little bit. So three points dropped against Hull. It's the only major disappointment. Looked at the draws this season. I think it's been West Brom, which was a poor performance by us. The Derby, which is always up in the air. And by rights, we should have put the bed every before we let them back into it. New Castle and Villa. Okay, there are four draws. Okay. And Villa, we were looking to get something out of. New Castle, yet again. Another game where we should have absolutely smashed them. They were down to 10m, weren't they? Yeah, and you know, so I'm thinking about it. I don't think our awayform is as poor as it's made out to be because we've played the big teams already away from home, apart from the United. We've played our main rivals away from home, you know. And Molly, is that fair that the negative awayform has been overplayed because of the nature of the opposition? Yeah, yeah, I agree. Look, this was a bit of a boggy team of late, out to Southampton. And I am a bit nervous about this game on the weekend. But I take this close this season. We're in four place. Every game's a confining right now. I think we're just going to go off for it. I really do. And I don't think... Southampton haven't been playing a great as of late. I don't think... I don't think we've... No excuse is not good here. Not a good result, I don't think. Yeah, yeah. And speaking of some of the personnel who may or may not make their way in, we spoke about the defense. Pete, do you think Joe Ireland's wonderful showing there when he came on as a substitute? And might be something that would have made him come to the forum, Brendan Stoltz, now in this away fixture. I heard the end of the Joe Alan one. Just give me that one. Yeah, yeah. I was just basically saying that Joe Alan's a man who basically really impressed me in command the other day. Do you think he's done enough there in that little cameo to force his way into first team reckoning now for this away match? I think he's in the reckoning. Yeah, I thought he's faultless when he came on the other day. And do you know what? Again, it's about the huge expectation there is around Liverpool fans. And bear in mind, he came with a price tag that he had nothing to do with. He came as a baby as well. I mean, he was 21, 22 when he signed. You know, his girlfriend had a baby, not so long after they moved to Liverpool as well. I'd always lived in Swansea. I think all of this week, we kind of forget from time to time. It was interesting here in Jason Macatea talk about that at the weekend that he said, you know, when you go on to a pitch and you're playing for Liverpool, he said, you can feel the expectation. You can feel the pressure. And sometimes it can be overwhelming. He said, but what you have to do is you have to to grow a big pair of shoulders and pardon the pun, but you know, he had that shoulder injury where, you know, once he was struggling even to celebrate a goal, so he's in that much pain with the injury that he had. Now he's back fully fit again, free from injury. I think we can truly start to judge Joe Allen. And, you know, I think, and it's only my opinion, but, you know, I think Liverpool have got a real play for the future here. He's very intelligent, you know, can play in a variety of roles, can play up, you know, further up just behind a striker. He can play that, hold him in field as well as well. I think there's real potential there for us to see a true Liverpool player in Joe Allen. I was delighted to see the way he played at the weekend. Absolutely. Pete, can I just ask you, your own opinion, do you think that maybe Liverpool fans sort of miss what he actually brings to the team in terms of, like, everyone is, it was, you know, we're accustomed to the type of midfielders that the likes of Jan Mulby and Jabi Lanza was, where they can sit sort of deep and pick passes out, you know, 50, 60 yard passes and put them on a penny piece and that he's just, you know, just these wonderful long-range passes. But what Joe Allen does is he continues to keep a tempo going in the game. And, you know, kind of allow sort of relentless build-up of pressure on the team just by keeping the ball and not letting them have the ball at all. Yeah, but, you know, we saw a different role that he played yesterday altogether, didn't we, at the weekend, where he was, he was pressing further up the pitch. He was looking to dispossess, you know, in the final third. So I think he can do that role as well. But, you know, on the original question, I think he's a player's player, isn't he, Joe Allen? I think if you were playing alongside him, you would truly appreciate what he brings to a game. You know, and the more studious fans, I think do spot what he can bring too. But again, I think this scientific way in which we measure players from time to time, I think a lot of people forget just how impressive he was when he came to the club. You know, there was a lot of people saying at that stage here before Luis Juarez broke through. This is Liverpool's player of the season. His impact was immediate, it was, you know, it was powerful, it was everything that I think fans have expected from Joe Allen. And then the injuries came. And I think then, you know, young players have that dip and sometimes they don't get out of it. Or they can't shake off the injuries and people already judge you by then, don't they? And then there's the price tag. And it can be quite hard for you to worm your way back and to reconvence fans that maybe you are a Liverpool player. And you do have what it takes to turn their heads a little bit. Stephen Brand, if Joe Allen does come in to the team at the weekend, is it going to be at Phil Catino's expense? Or maybe this Raheem Sterling method? That's kind of six or one half of those... of another you can pick either. Or depending on what shape you want to go with. I can't see the shape changing too much. I can't see him go on. And as the lads are saying, I think at this stage in the season, four points off the top, Roger's just going to go over. I think it's going to be Kevin Keegan, a new cast on Madness now, from now to the end of the season. Just lumping everything forward. That's all I want. I'm fucking sick of boring football for the past few years. Let's just go up and dance. To be fair, Steve told us what his predictions say. We were finished in second at the City in Arsenal. So I think he's on an ultimate optimist boys at the moment. Seven-nail wins from now to the end of the season. Seven-six? Steve O'Bahnsell. Seven-four wins, everyone again. Steve O'Bahnsell out there in Arsenal. Twelve wins, over eleven. Yeah, quite a bit more. As the resident blue, you are a resident pessimist. A pessimist, yeah. Sponsor level. If Steve is looking for balls at football, what do you see happening in terms of Joellen coming in? Who does he? Who steps out? I think personally, Phil, Catania might start losing his place for away games. I think if Brent is sensible, I keep on calling him Brent as if he's my mate. When you are a friend to the stars, you are a friend to the stars. To be fair, so that's understandable. Flash is your phone book there. Yeah, no phone book. No, in fairness, no. It's your lustrous locks. It is. It's your stitches. Don't be jealous, you'll call this. I wish I had sparks down here. Yeah, came back to it. No, I think the team ready. Cool, I think the team you're wide out to step out for some of the away games. I think he gets lost a little bit in some of the away matches. And I think that's where Alan could actually benefit the team on the whole. I think we have to keep Sterling, storage and Suarez, up top. I think they just offer so much dynamism and just couldn't edge that no other... Apart from City, no other team in the league has that cutting edge. Slowly, if Louis Suarez clicks, somebody's going to get an awful pace, aren't they? He's knocking on the door, isn't he? He caught a discard here today and another day, probably one of... I just heard last week, in the last couple of weeks, he has struggled slowly because of the role he's been asked to play at the moment, where he is, he's been asked to fill in, he's been asked to play slowly water. I think, as Phil said, I've said a few times, we've got to get more fluidity between them two boys. When it's not happening for one, you should pop in, pop out and roll tight between the two of them, it's not really happening at the minute. I think if Suarez gets a real run 15-20 minutes, maybe even a half an hour through the middle, he'll start buying goals in again. I don't see any issue with him not scoring at the moment. As long as he keeps the system, as long as we keep scoring goals as a team, it's happy that he's like, "Yeah, you never feel that it's not going to happen. You just feel it's only a matter of time, don't you?" Molly, to bring you in on this, as a man, it tends to be in the know about things. What exactly do you think is going on there in St. Mary's? Sorry, I've got Phil's losing his shit here, but yeah, you've got, yeah, Cortese there, his departure seems to have upset things a little bit. Would that be fair to say? I'm not really too sure what's going on there. Like this Cartese got left and was like a postmortem over in St. Mary's. I think he was only a managing director or CEO or something like that. So, I don't know what the big issue was with him leaving. Now, having said that, I think Southampton, or one of those teams that early on in the season, they're fantastic to absolutely blitz other teams, to start off kind of like every two more a couple of years ago. Do we do absolutely brilliant uptid Christmas and after then? Well, let's hope you're right and that's just on that, right? I suppose the look in the Pochettino set up on the way he wants a team to play. He is, well, he was coached and is seen as a disciple of Marcelo Piazza, right? And most of Piazza's teams used to do their damage in the force two towards the season. And then there will be an inevitable fade off because the intensity that Piazza wants his team to play at seem to always nearly end up with the teams losing not so much intensity, but fatigue creeping in as a counter towards the end of the season. A great example would be out since Bill Bell, in the run they had that year to the UEFA Cup final. Their league form, nose-dived from February onwards because the players were absolutely exhausted as they went. For a team that was going so well, that level of upset within the actual counter, that could be seen from the outside, happened. And since then, the run hasn't been great. Look, Southampton have been doing phenomenally well, considering they were fighting relegation this time last year. They're a good side. And if you make mistakes against them, they will punish you, right? Lambert is a good centre for that. He's a Liverpool fan as well. We can't go there expecting just to be able to turn up and roll them over. I don't think we'll go there with that mentality. They've got some really good players. I really like your man Adam Lelano. I think he's a smashing player for an English number. He's actually one of the best number tens I've seen England produce in a long, long time, in terms of the way he plays the game. Ward Prowse is another phenomenal talent. The two fullbacks that they have shown. He's entertaining a client. Yeah, client and Shaw are wonderful, wonderful fullbacks. Shaw is fabulous. Their potential they have is just off the charts. You know, they're already being moved with big moves. And the midfield are now shrinking foil at either in one yama and snoiling as well. So, listen, they're not champions of Europe. It's going to be a tough match. It's been a tough match against Pochettino Brendan has faced over the last two games. And we just have to be conscious. This is not going to be a four or five-nil game. So, you know, let's, as I said, and I think there's a realism here, we get there, we get three points. Doesn't matter if it's one-nil or 26-25. We get four-country points and that's it. Stayed daily. The more I'm listening to Phil Casey go on waxing lyrical about the times and the more nervous I'm getting. What's your take on the threat that they pose to us? Yeah, it's a hard one for me because in my head, I'm actually thinking we should beat them. I'm actually thinking this is when we start to put our, this is when we start to put our way form back on track. I genuinely think this could be the game where we do it. And I hope I'm right. He needs to get a tactically right. And if he does, I think we'll win the game. I think we, I think, regardless of how good they are, how nice their fullbacks are and everything else. Look at you, and your lovely hair. But in our fairness, as good as they are, we've got more quality than them. We just have to make sure it shines through on the day. Damien Floh is not fair. If both teams play through the potential, we should win. Again, I think it's purely down to whatever way a tactically boat manager set this up. I'd be quite happy for Wanyama, Schneuerland, being possession of the ball, because the fucking Brooklyn possession of the ball, that the more, that the more set up, the brake play up, brake play up, that's... Steven Brown said the exact same thing about Wanyama, and he had an absolute belter against us in our field. If I just was, give the ball to Wanyama. He's a mighty schoitler, you know what I mean? Look at this roiler, it's jinxy bastard. I would let them have possession of the ball, and I would play this room. This room was worse than my bag of black hats, but I don't know. OK, look, let's push it around the table, and see if we can get some predictions. Pete, I'll start with you as I guess. Could you maybe give us a shout for how you think this is going to go? Oh, Liverpool win tough game. I'm going to go for two-one win. Two-one win, we'll take that. Molly, your prediction, and I know you were dying to throw some stats at me, so if you wanted to do the same thing, I'll go up prediction first of all. The prediction I'm going to go for is one-all. I just have a bad feeling. It's like one of the four-one game couple weeks ago. Just a bad feeling. I take one-allity stage I think going against Southampton. Especially with Lambert up there, because I think Lambert is going to cause a struggle. Like, a couple of quick stats there. Like, basically, I'll just come back to you in a second. You take your time, fellow. Don't worry about it. Just getting googled again, Molly. Just getting the internet. Here's a couple of stats that we might opt to put together. Ignore, ignore, Molly, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. That's not it. Basically, 26% of all the goals we've conceded have come from the header. Like, that was so Lambert down to the ground. Martin Skertle, he has had to hate 291 clearances out of the box. That's more than any or clear in a premiership. So, to me, it just looks like that other teams have seen that this is a weakness. As I think it feels that everyone immediately doesn't really come for the ball. So, you get on today. So, I have two wingers, people like Zadana going to get down that wing. We've been the ball for Lambert, and I think that is going to be our weakness over the weekend. So, that's why I'm going to go one-all. Molly, I'm just thinking, if Peter brings this little podcast over to Ian Air, we're going to sign a commercial deal with Panadol now after that last stop. For the amount of headers we're having to put out the box. [LAUGHTER] I'm moving slightly along. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] I think the next thing here is because Ben Devs is one, zero, something like that. He's like 40 headers more than he made. I think that's a crazy set. 291 headers. We've had to clear from our box. Molly. Molly. I'm going to add Stacha. In the major European leagues, only Real Madrid with 71 goals. I've scored Martin Liverpool with 70. Barcelona, 70, Man City, 69, PSG, 62. How do you like that? Does that include Champions League games as well as it? I think those league matches only, yeah. Just league matches, but even if that's been up with the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid for course-playing records, I think it was a Brendan Rodgers say that it may have been last season, that we need to score 70 goals. Digging into the Champions League. Yeah, which you won. 17-0, so. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, it stops going. I'm happy with that. Pack it up, lads, we're done. To be fair as well, that day. Nail on, nail on, nail on, nail on, nail on. To be fair, your draw would keep us on trifle at average that you need for Champions League, too. Steve, daily, your show. I was going to actually show it in a three-woman. Just ended it in by third because it sounded like that. Yeah, well, my usual show is as far as I'd say, I'd go for the 2-1 bottom, like in two goals from Suarez. So, okay. Just wait and see, the predictions being cut down. It'll just be, just watch a picture. 2-1, 2-1, 3-1, 1-1 on. 17-5, Suarez. Okay, let's get straight on now with the listeners' questions. First one's from Nick and Nick asks, and this is for you, Molly. What part of the human body do you hate most? He mentioned belly buttons. Apparently he hates the little fuckers. So, what part of the human body do you hate most, Molly? Feasts. Are you even here to even say an award feast? (Laughter) And what really annoys me is, Jersey does hate. There's just like the young professional cop in the road and they're picking on a new sofa and they're jumping on it. They always have bare feet. What was it here with that? When's the last time you saw someone in Harvey Norman picking on the sofa? (Laughter) Coming in in there flip-flops and whipping them off and having a fucking dance on the girls. It's the first thing you think about it going so for shopping. Don't wear shoes today. (Laughter) I think it sucks out. I think that it's tours. Like you only need your big toy and your smart toy. So, you've three tours that you just don't need at all. And that fact, Lauren just freaks me out. You don't need to stop what is in there. (Laughter) That's fucking marvelous. I like feet, Molly. Oh, no. No, I can't even say it award feast. I'd say I've bare the misses. You've bought a loan and barefoot in the middle of the road. I can't. I've bought our throw them up here. Do you like it, how? Oh, gosh. (Laughter) You have to feed now a kiss too, aren't you? I'm going to cut me a bit of love in the fuck road. (Laughter) Oh, God, I'm fucking went in there. I need more shouts for body parts that people hate in particular. The burst. What? The burst. The burst. That's what you... It's the cesspit of... It's the tyranny. It's the tisn't... (Laughter) Yeah. (Laughter) The burst. The bit between your balls and your arse. Tisn't your arse, tisn't your sack. Tisn't your arse, tisn't your sack. Tisn't your arse, tisn't your sack. Tisn't your arse, tisn't your sack. (Laughter) Perenum. Tisnkus. Tisnkus. No, no, no. It's... It's worse. Okay. (Laughter) Yeah, that is the no-go zone right there. (Laughter) (Inaudible) In the summer. (Laughter) Do you know what it's really fucking hot now? What are you doing? You just got an illegal mushrooms down there. (Laughter) How does she have... Why is she on there? If you just shave. (Laughter) Well, trim down there. It's actually going to help. You're a big hairy badger. (Laughter) Okay. (Laughter) Okay. And next one up. This is from JFT 96. He's concerned about your anatomy. Especially Andy, he's actually... I think Andy started this show. And he asked a very salient question. He says, "Is everyone's mickey still in one piece after yesterday's game?" (Laughter) In the words. "Did it get pulled off and thrown at the TV?" Anybody? Want to admit that? I didn't throw it at the TV. (Laughter) (Laughter) Not until the B.M.C. I should come on anyway. (Laughter) 10 minutes of preview life. It takes Steve Round 2, 10 minutes of preview. (Laughter) I like some candles. I'm not going to... I'm at that point in my life. I don't even have the three numbers dialed into the skybox before I'm already done. (Laughter) That's good effort. I'm right looking like it. Next one up is from Flight. It's good. Flight says there's a movie of your life. "Damey, Flood. Who do you want to play?" You know, I'm going to give a shout, like, "Fuck in the mirror, I'll wear a pretend or something like that." Yeah. Mcconny is the only true detective he's a kill bastard. So, yeah, I think it's Mcconny. Do you imagine Mcconny? It's a bit like you own Dallas boys club. Does he? Yeah. (Laughter) Just eight down the mirror. (Laughter) I thought there was five of them. (Laughter) I go for Ryan Gosling. Why? It's because I like him. (Laughter) Fuck yeah. Normally, who do you want playing in? I realize that we fucking signed him. Ryan, do you mind these questions? (Laughter) That's the first in a couple weeks ago about what celebrities and what it looked like. Yeah. Many years ago, back in the good old days was Keanu Reeves, because people used to think I used to look like him. So, I pick him. I go, "We Keanu Reeves." That's fucking nice. Yeah, I like that. Anyone else going to shout to me? Every time. Michael asks us, "How do you garnish your chips?" Vinegar, ketchup, tomato sauce, mayonnaise, or something else. Back in the oven. That's not a garnish. That's a fucking... The fucking news when you wrap them in. (Laughter) Frank's hot sauce. Oh, specific. Yeah, I fucking hate ketchup and mayonnaise. Mayonnaise, the devil's come. (Laughter) I'm coming. (Laughter) And cucumbers are the devil's mickey. (Laughter) And that one is out straight now. People who eat mayonnaise are fucking sick. I can't wait for the oven. Something's fucking wrong. Cucumber mayonnaise sandwiches right off. (Laughter) How do we eat the Frank's hot sauce? (Laughter) Legends. Yeah, it's quality. Yeah, thanks for getting into detail on that one as well. I appreciate that. (Laughter) That's all I'm getting over the ketchup. That's it. Straight up. Traditional shade. Next one is from Shane. Steven Brown. Favorite cereal as a kid. Or even now if you're still a cereal man. So it depends on what day of the week it is. The Monday to Friday. The Monday to Friday and work. It's about a wee bit. All right. Set you up for the day. Okay, hang on, stay there. Talk to me about wee bit. The only fight I ever had when I made mine was about fucking wee bit. And how to eat them. I'm... Put... Where the fuck is this? (Laughter) Job done. New country lads, really. I'll be very rude. What the fuck are you eating wee bit with a fork? Well... First of all, chopsticks. Here, Mandy. (Laughter) They're all weak. They're all weak. They're all weak. They're all weak. Hold on. They're all weak. Show 'em, Mandy. Show 'em Mandy. Show 'em up your knives on this wee bit. (Laughter) Steve Steve. Go again with your impressioner. Go again. That was more of a... That was more of a fork. No, no, please, please. Yeah, I said, "Here, Mommy." 'Cause... "Here, Mommy, here, Mommy." Give us two knives. Stay out for me, wait a bit. (Laughter) Get the cool things off, wee. (Laughter) Fuck sake. The only answer is sugar poofs as a kid. 'Cause a major piss smell of sugar poofs. And that was like the booze. Sugar poofs smelling piss. (Laughter) If you piss them, they smell the sugar poofs. We need to go back. We need to go back. What is this wee bit special? We need to go back. It has to be hot milk and sugar. No, no, no, no, cold milk. Cold milk. Oh, you're a freak. (Laughter) Many wee bits. Many wee bits. Two wee bits. No, no, no, no. Three, two, one on top. Two wee bits. Milk, cold. Way to be intact. This other fucker used to mash it up. No, no, no, no. That's acting the prick. No, no, no, no. That's acting the prick. No, no, no. You get a pot. You heat your milk. Until you get annoyed again then. It becomes frothy. You've got to get your milk frothy. Then you pre-sugar your wee bit. I actually get as angry as Casey in there. This is fucking ridiculous. You pour your hot milk on me. No, hot milk. No, hot milk. That's fucking stupid. No, I want you to. No milk. Three wee bits. Two on the bottom. One on the top. No, I want the sugar. Oh, there you go. I want you to know you're from... Fucking notes. (Laughter) Fucking notes. It's only because you used to have to drink the milk straight from the cow down the street. (Laughter) All right. I say this with all my family for monthly. (Laughter) Another food-based question Lucy asks, "Curry or kebab after a few beers." Which did you go for? Molly. I don't know if it kind of looks at me. (Laughter) I'll have a donut kebab, please. Donut kebab, please. Molly, have you shown this? Oh, yeah, yeah. The donut kebab. But the thing is you can't eat the kebab in the kebab shop because it just causes everywhere. Especially if there's a few women around, they try to press up. So the kebab has to come home. (Laughter) And the kebab shop only... The morning, the rest of the kebab. You sound like the sort of fellow at either kebab with two wristbands on. (Laughter) So it didn't drip down the elbow. (Laughter) The only way in the ish ganders, two plain chicken shish is just chili sauce. Fucking sit down. No chips. No fucking messon. Two plain chili shish. (Laughter) Chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken, chicken. Two plain chicken shish. There's a note that we have to fuck and deal with this. Zaytunes is not better than this one. Fucking right it is. No, it's not. Scanners like the opposite of you. (Laughter) We'll say you're fucking awesome. Like some chips, would you? Nothing tall. (Laughter) Just cook your chicken on the cold right in front of you. There. And don't go from that bullshit stuff. That's all mingle together from 82 chickens. And fucking 42 fucking sheep. It's up there. Would you like me to slice off a bit of debt here for you? (Laughter) No thanks. I'll just go for a few fucking chunks of chicken. Cook them up on the barbecue there for me. And stick them in the fucking pizza. Death kebabs. Death kebabs? Slice of debt. (Laughter) Slice me up some of that debt there. That sounds nice. That sounds great, yeah. Now Peter asked us to define the scarcity. But I think we're in danger of alienating our bait made across the water if we do that. So I'm going to ask people around the table to define a day-tripper. What is a day-tripper? Go. For me, it's closer. (Laughter) To where she lives in the city of Liverpool. Yeah. That's for me. And the day-tripper is someone who has to pay for that privilege. Oh, fucking profound. I like that. I like that a lot. From around the table, anyone else? Go with that. Go with that. Okay. And the last question is from Karl. And Karl says, this is a fucking hellish choice. If you had to choose between being stuck with Rooney's face or Ferguson's personality, which do you go with? Ferguson's personality all day long. Are you there? No question. No, Rooney shouts. I'm already a prick. So is Ferguson. So I can live with that. But I'm a handsome bastard. I couldn't switch to his face. (Laughter) Couldn't. I just couldn't. (Laughter) I'm so fella on the television the other day. It was Harley Street or something. I don't know. This is what I was watching. Anyway, he went in. He wanted the classics to order because he looked too much like Shrek and it wasn't real. (Laughter) All right. He says it already. Okay, finally done just some admin. The HJC Cup Ireland is on March 22nd here in Astro Park, which is of course Dublin's primary five-side venue. Most important of all will be auction for the HJC on the night to bring the wallets and keep watching it for more details. There are big tanks. There's always go to Johnny Rep for our class intro music. Their new single "Give" is out now. You can follow us on all our news and views on at Liverpool ways run by Kyle Turley. So get following that great account. And if you want some excellent articles and content, you can also get them to molyswwww.beyondcup.com. 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Episode 24 deals with what in the blue jesus happened on sunday. Trying to make sense of it all was the lads and special guest Peter McDowall. We think they did somehow without going mental like the team. Oh and you get to find out what the barse and tisnt are.
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