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Results may vary, award is not an endorsement. 5 to 1, baby, love is 1 in 5. No one here gets out alive now. You give yours, baby, out of mind. Don't wanna make your baby live when you try. 5 to 1, baby, 1 to 5. Arsenal didn't get out of Anfield alive. Have the doors open to Liverpool and Champions League football. Gonna make it if we try. It's a day trippers. [Music] On tonight's show, we're joined by a man known by nerdy all LFC fans. On the 4th right views, the sports editor of the Times Tony Evans. And don't worry, we'll definitely ask him if he still writes Lambert ahead of Rogers and Martinez. We ran out of worst 11's but are choices of noxious number 9's. We talk, smile, laugh a bit and remember the complete nut or annihilation of Arsenal on Saturday morning. But it's already predicted by our own Nikki Felage. There's normally more of a jinx than a bag of cats wedged under a ladder with a magpie purse on top of it. We look forward to another mid-week away fixture to the London home of Michael Jackson and we finish. As ever we do with your listeners' quest. First up, we return to filling out our worst Liverpool 11's. It's a simple one to finish unless you're one of the truly awful struggles who've worn the red. So, who were the most atrocious front men that you've watched playing for Liverpool? Gonna start with Tony Evans and this Tony or Che. Well, I remember, yeah, with them, don't I? So, you know, it's a, you know, the guitar playing genius who's got a doctorate against Derby and very little else. You know, he did have injuries to be fair. And he was behind Tochek. But, you know, it's a, I just think he's, like, a name to conjure with, you know, what was great about him? If he played the guitar, and every newspaper piece after his atrophy was all about the guitar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a newspaper man. It's a delight, Dad. OK, Molly, you're a shout. Oh, I'm going to go over to Devon Garg. Oh, yeah? You know, young French led coming through. I remember a few people said, "Oh, he's going to be like Henry and stuff." But he was not a one-gosh rule accident. He was just hopeless. Yeah, yeah, so it's nice and straightforward. Devon Garg, OK. Paul Brennan. I'm going to go for the off. He got a shout, I think, in the, but playing on the wing. And when someone else is there. Yeah, it was my team, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I'm going for him up front. Just an absolute disgrace, really, the way that he carried on. We show it as well. And then the cherry on top is when it just, I think it was just last year we did an interview where he eggs. See, he said that Stephen Gerard is jealous of him. Or something like that. [LAUGHTER] For love, like... [LAUGHTER] Steve Daddy. Yeah, for me, deal, again. Yeah. You're just a horrible pox of a man. And yeah, just couldn't ever, ever take to him. You know, he just strikes me as the person that stopped us signing Nicholas and Elka when I think he would have actually been a good player for the club. And I think we spent the money on that, whatever. You know, I'm actually going to try it, of course. I love this thing. I think he really showed us. So, yeah. So, ultimately, yeah, you know, it's him. Long story short. There's lots of contenders. But it's him to just personality as well as being shit. Perfect. Andy. Carl, for me, this is my best worst anyway. We got Alex Soy, because we're spending $45 million. A lot of people had spent $2 million on Carl. We wouldn't have been there. So, it's not the fellas fault, but came in. Absolutely a atrocious player. Fucking, like, awards escaped me. Helped by Carl is. So, he's in my best worst 11. Best worst 11. Yeah. Andy Carl, for me too, primarily because I wanted him to be so much better than he was and ended up being a bit of a disaster. Part of Andy's tip. But my own personal one was Dean Sanders. I suppose an awful lot of my picks have been from the Sunas area. So, I'm just rounding off with another one. I just could have been well in there because he was a despicable creature in the Liverpool jersey. But just for me, Dean Sanders, we paid a massive amount of money from at the time. He came with a huge reputation. Running rolls until it gets worse grief than Dean Sanders does. But Dean Sanders should get it just for his brutal hairdo as well. It was just awful at the time. So, genuinely, every time I think back to the Sunas area, you could actually pick that 11 and just put it in as the Wars 11. Only Hodgson's time at Liverpool would you feel the Wars 11. But he saved with the fact that Torres and Gerard were still in the team at that stage. Apart from that, just... Clough and Dean Sanders are my front tips. That's a lot for me. Do you off-kind of looks like the sort of fella that would have spat in his mouth. He was being given birth to a lot of men. Yeah, he's just... It's hard not to pick up. It goes back to the nail-neck shell on the right wing. It's hard not to pick up. I was just picking Dean Sanders because we paid a massive amount of money from at the time. It came again to be Rush's replacement in the hole. And he's just pony. He ends with a couple of seasons later. He's just pony. I couldn't even put you for me Wars 11 because he's bad at me. No, he's in 11 and he doesn't deserve to be an animal. Right. Let's move on to our review and the pure sex that was started at least thrashing far. So now, as we always do, we're going to start with Brendan Watch, all our thoughts in the gaffer, his selection tactics performance overall. Pretty much a perfect performance. Paul, Brendan? Yeah, I thought it was brilliant. Brilliant set up and completely out with Winger. I think there was no point in us kicking ourselves in the balls, trying to kind of press up all against Arsenal, trying to play them at their own game. And I thought especially with the way that it worked against Everton, I thought it was the right choice to kind of sit back and absorb like any pressure. Like let their defenders have it. But kind of as soon as they came 10 yards into our half, we kind of swarmed all over them. And we picked the right time to break and all. I just thought it was brilliant from Rodgers. Excellent. Tony Evans, would you concur without pretty impressive by the manager? Oh, I thought it was a fantastic tactical performance. I mean, you know, switching to Suarez, putting them on Montreal. That was fantastic. But you know, the thing is, Arsenal do the same thing on the time. They never vary. They push the full backs up. They leave the centre-ups up on an island. They've got no old midfield player there. And you know what? All you did is get the ball when they give away possession, which you do too often about 35 yards out from the opposition's goal. Gareth forward. It was a masterpiece at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, pretty impressive stuff. Molly? Yeah, absolutely brilliant to speak in. I was actually listening to his press conference this morning, and he made a great point about Coutinho, about his defensive work of late. It's been fantastic. I was watching that game, and they tracked back a lot. He was getting in there to tackle. And then as soon as he got to ball, the head was up, looking for the first pass. And I think that's something that Rodgers has really brought into his game. So listen, if you want to be in the stadium, you're going to be a bit more defensive at times. And he definitely showed out all over the weekend. That was just fantastic performance overall. Steve Daley, your thoughts on how the manager performed? Yeah, absolutely. As has been said already, you couldn't argue what he did. I was at the game, which was great to be over for it and get to see it. And just looking at it, everybody knows you get a different perspective when you're there live. And to actually see the work that was done by the lads off the ball. And what would have been probably out of the camera pan was just immense. Nobody stopped for the entire 90 minutes. They wanted more. You know what I mean? They sold at the cop, but every single person on that pitch killed themselves for the time they were on there. I don't think there was one person coming off there not having given everything they could. Yeah, tell me about that. Tell me about getting a good view and overview of it. There's been all these pretty pictures on Twitter over the day. I think you've probably all seen them with beautiful triangles and little shapes being drawn. Again, to back up the idea of Brendan's philosophy and Brendan's football is coming forward and being seen. I don't know how much we can read into that. But what did it look like overall? Yeah, it looked absolutely perfect. You know, the things for me, and as people know, I've been in here slate in Sysoko when he started out. I thought he was excellent on Saturday. I really did. You know, he didn't put a foot wrong. From what I... Listen, people might be able to pick stuff out on replays and stuff like that. I haven't got a chance to watch the match back fully. But being there on the day, his work and his communication with the players around him actually was very impressive. Sterling and Coutinho. Hendo, you expected from him at this stage. And it's probably unfair that I'm not singling him out for praise. But you expect that high energy game from him, that pressing game. But Coutinho and Sterling were excellent at it on Saturday as well. And they were interchanging. They were taken turns. One was dropping maybe five, ten yards back. And Coutinho was maybe pressing their center halves or maybe as our tetta came into our half with the ball. And then they were switching it over. And it was just great to see. It was great to see the amount of energy put in. Steve was just in on that. I remember last week when I was here and I said that we'd win five-nail, right? And the premise that I said we'd win five-nail was that Joe Allen would be back in the team and be able to press high, you know, bring that pressing game back to it, right? When I saw that Coutinho was starting to decide at the weekend, I couldn't see his win that game. Like straight up, I thought Arsenal were a model to win that game. When I thought we were looking at a repeat of the Aston Villa setup where Coutinho was wide left and you know, we were playing with two in the center. Or that we'd go back to sort of the West Brown game where Coutinho was actually pushed on into ten positions and Hendo was sort of floating between him and Gerard and not actually doing much in the actual game. Because, let's be honest about it, he didn't... He has the ability to drift out the game. He has, which was seen against West Brown. So for me, I couldn't see how we were going to win that game when I saw the eleven. When I saw little Rogers, he got him to flatten those two in the midfield and suddenly they played the same way as everything in terms of the Harry and the press and it was really good. And the fairness to Rogers is like something that Andy said a couple of weeks ago. He appears now to be learning as he goes along in terms of managing himself. That's what he wants. And that's exactly what you want. You can't argue for that at all. I just want to say there as well, like there's nothing better as a Liverpool fan to being proven right than proven wrong. And, you know, when I was saying to Salco playing for Liverpool for us, they slotted him. We wanted an attacking player. You know, someone who kicked the ball better than Enrique had thought it was something that we really needed. I mean, I was saying to Salco wasn't very competent on the ball. I was very disappointed. But in fairness to the fellow, since Flanagan got injured on the left, he's come in and I don't think he's put a foot wrong and he's getting an awful lot of stick off the fans. And I think it's hortly on Martin. I think he's been brilliant. And as I said a few weeks ago, he is what he is the most. He is what he is player that I was saying playing for Liverpool. He's just there and he's doing a job and fair for complaint. How many times have we given out about Fallbacks who can't defend? Yeah, absolutely. And listen, there wasn't a single fan in Anfield on Saturday, given out about him. It's got us because look at the chances the fans are given Flanagan. Okay, not the best gone forward. He gets himself forward, but he's not the best on the ball. Not like Johnson is when he plays well. But the fans are given Flanagan a real good chance because he's a local ad. But Salco and Flanagan are doing exactly what Johnson can't fucking do in the team. And that's defend and closing them across and preventing teams from hurtness. Andy, you've pretty much driven us down the street. We were going to go down. And anyway, that's talking about Ali, Salco. He was going to come up later in the agenda anyway. Molly, how did you feel as Salco performed on the day? And do you see him as a viable option going forward if we're going to keep where we are in the league? I thought he was solid over the weekend. And over the last day there was brilliant. I wouldn't go that far with him. You know, going forward, I can't see him stay in next season. I reckon he's going to be sitting back myself. You know, I still think we need a better left back than Enrique. And Salco is not better than Enrique in my book. But yeah, overall, to performance the weekend and even against West Prom, he was solid enough. Yeah, Tony, you're on his take. And I know it was pretty impressive to see him being big brother to Sterling. I think everyone stays there acting the enforcer and then falling over as he tends to do as well a couple of times. I got a great laugh of him. What was your opinion on the day? Oh, Salco. Oh, Salco. Well, I mean, let's face it. He's not the long-term solution is he? I mean, you know, he's in a long tradition of like comedy, Liverpool, left backs. Who hasn't got it? You know, I mean, you know, Bernie Rubble, he adds something. And I just can't seem to make that long-term. But the defense without a doubt needs more help. You know, it's, you know, Flanagan's doing great. You know, it's, you know, the managers, if he about the censoring laughs. And I would have thought the one thing he'll be long to do in the summer is to strengthen there. But you know what? I think what we've seen, the best thing about it. And the best thing about the whole development, friends and Rogers in the last year, 14, 15 months, he's become pragmatic and keep the ball away from the defenders. Give it to the people who can play. Give it up there fast. So, you know, it's, so I just, I do think it's, we haven't seen the solutions to the left side. And we haven't really seen there. I don't think the manager's happy with the center of defense. But, hell, if we can blow us all away, who cares? You know, and if we can keep setting off the way he's set up for the rest of the season, who needs to defend? Yeah, fair play. Paul Brennan, we've a really special talent in our hands with Raheemstar. And it looks like... Yeah, I'm a huge fan of him, obviously. You know, it's obvious that he's able to dribble with the ball and his pace is obvious. It's there for everyone to see. But it's intelligence recently. You can give him the ball and he's on half. And you're not afraid that he's going to do something stupid. He keeps it really well. He protects it. His movement with the ball and whatever has been absolutely brilliant. And Rogers has said that he's, what's certainly 18 or 19, and Rogers has said that he's one of the most tactically clued-up players that he's worked with. So, yeah, I just think, again, like the massive problems he caused there. It's not with the ball and without it. Again, he's just one of our most consistent performance at the moment. Do you have the same fear that I have that he's had just going to take him and destroy him over something? Oh, well, he has to kind of go there and fucking enjoy Raheemstar a few months, and then work up while he's able. Jay, I'm sure I'm sure we'll be able to get that back out of him. Jay, I just want to be alone, hodge him. I hope he comes back in one piece. Hey. Steve Daley, would you tell to me about Jordan Henderson, because my god, that kid is a hell of a player when he wants to be right back on the song. I've written down here, if only he could shoot, he'd be in line for player of the year. I mean, the true ball from Coutinho, and he's true on goal, and that lamentable shot. I mean, he's shooting, it's fucking interesting. Well, I don't know whether it was a shot or what it was. It was something, it was a kick of his boot. Yeah, listen, he's been exceptional. He really did struggle, and I have to say, a few of us, probably the lads that are here are people that I know who were supporting him when he wasn't having the best of times, and I definitely didn't want to see him go when he was talking and going to Fulham last season as part of the Clint Dempsey deal. That's what he was a make weight in, or partially, but he's come on leaps and bounds. And you know what, I actually, yet again, I watched it on Saturday. As soon as Steven Jarrod went off the pitch, he started barking orders. He started talking to people. He started dictating, because he steps his game. When Steven Jarrod goes off that pitch, he steps up another 10%, 15%, from what was already an excellent performance. But it's like he loves the responsibility, and he feels that when Jarrod's not there, he has the right to take it, and the right to dictate what's going on around him. And it's great to see, because I think he can be a really, really good player, and I'm delighted we haven't. Phil Case, I'm going to talk to you about your namesake, quite a playmaker when he wants to be, and had a hell of a day against Arsenal. And that's Coutinho, what was your response to him? For me, anyway, he's benefitting from the tactical, slight change of flattening that here on the midfield. You see, he can use his vision, but he's also Jack Russell. He's just a terrier. He just gets around the pitch. He's willing to do the hard, physical work in as much as he wants to get on the ball and be creative and beautiful in terms of the way he passes. He sees things so quickly. So if he's winning balls in or down the middle toward, or even in his own toward, he can quickly distribute the ball into, say, the feet of Suarez, or storage that's under on the halfway line, and then soak the defenders on. We all thought that he'd be a number ten, a great number ten, and probably a long time over ten for Liverpool. The way he's playing at the moment, if you're looking at a sort of four-tree tree setup, he's ideal to work off, you know, in that sort of, you know, in the ester, in the ester-stoiled midfielder, because in the ester can play, or in the tree behind the striker, he can play in two, in that two in the midfield. It's a word with a shout-out, but I think there's an element of fortune. A bit of the way that Rafa came across the four-two-tree-one and the way we set up, there is a slight element of fortune that the injuries we've had has contributed to finding this way of playing, and fitting continue into the team this way. Andy called that as well, yesterday and today on this, and, you know, fortune's sometimes favoured the brave, and the way we set up definitely favoured the brave if we continue to play that way, and continues the right man for this. Molly, would you concur with Phil there that continues very much the man at the moment, and very much seeing this current set up? Oh, yeah, 100%. I've been reading press in the last couple of weeks, you know. As I said, it goes through bars, you put through, they're not even surprised anymore, we nearly specked him off of him. What his reading press has been, he's defenseless, as Phil has said there. He's like the Jack Russell, all over the pack, for wrestling midfielders trying to get the ball back, setting up attacks. You know, he's been reading a brilliant list. Okay, Andy, I know you wanted a shout-out about Stephen Jared. I know in the past you've spoken in defence of him, when he's maybe been getting a bit of abuse that you thought maybe was warranted. How do you feel he's adapting at the minute? Well, well, first of all, people on toilets, they criticize Jared, all they want. It's just, well, got Molly back up with the level of criticism that Jared came in. People start suggesting that Jared's never played well in centre of the park, and he's never dictated the game, he's never been in control of midfield, and they just forget about the past, and just what, you know, having a goal, which was totally unjust. He's sat down and lovely into that defence of midfield role. Okay, coming up to the villa game, when Rodgers put it out there in the press conference, and pretty much every Liverpool fan was talking about it all, we can remember a conversation, we had one of the lads, and we sat there, and it just made so much sense to us, like, you know, you were saying, he's all the attributes, he's the experience, he raised the game, he passes, he can tackle, it all made sense, and then with the villa game, when he got, let's face it, he got the ball looks frightened out of the way they started. Similar to the way we started against Arsenal, Liverpool shit themselves, Jared couldn't get a hold of the game, he didn't know what was going on. Is there any reason to believe that that might not happen again? No, that undoubtedly will happen, Jared is still settling in, as many years as he has on his belt, he's still settling into position, but he's never really played before, and he does need to start, you know, communicating about Rodgers and on the training pitch, and just learning, and watching videos of other players, like they're supposed to get to, he does it, and maybe we can't prolong Jared's career in that position. Okay, let's not get excited, it is kind of two games where he played really, really well, everything on Arsenal, and I thought he was quite good in the West Brown game, but he's proven people wrong there, and that he can't play that role, and he's brilliant, especially on Saturday. Tony Evans, would you agree that this could be similar, we're going to see Jared going forward now, that he's actually maybe going to stamp on his authority on this position? Well, I'm just worried that he's not mobile enough to play that position consistently, you know, the thing is, I think I'm playing in that position at home against teams that were wide open, like Evan, and that's not who we're going to come onto here, and they're sort of going to leave spaces behind them. I'm not so sure I'd be playing in my way. I'd like to see him find a position a bit further off the field as well, where he gets into shooting positions, where he can use the best, which, you know, he can't use that deep. It's one of them where he's playing well, but a lot of his legs, and you think, hmm, I can just carry him through, you know, sort of, well, obviously, probably well to the end of the season, but next season, will it begin to tell on him? I'd use him more sparingly, and I'd try and use him more creatively, but you know what? I'm saying that, you can argue with the results, and you can argue with the ways played, as I said, I just worry that going forwards, that he hasn't got the energy that he wants that. Yeah, I think it's the only position he has the energy to do, to be quite honest. Like, if you ever really hear Rogers talking about, like, you know, Rogers is mad into the Paul Barcelona set up when he's done seminars with the Spain team, and he always talks about what he wants his number six to do, and his number 10, his number four. Like, Jared doesn't really fit into any of them other roles, like, you're Javi, or you're in yesterday roles, like, if Jared wants to, you know, prolong his career at Liverpool in midfield, it's probably the only position we could see him, and if not, Jared goes forward or back again and plays right back to prolong your career. But I don't see him playing forward over the pitch, you know, for Liverpool. The thing is, though, you know, we talk about Barcelona, we talk about, you know, the Baskets and all that. I mean, it feels a bit last year to me. I mean, we're playing more like Dortmund, and that's what, I mean, one of the great things we've seen from brands and Rogers in the last year is his development. He's not tied to one way of playing, you know, so to bother me when he first arrived. You know, he wants it to pass people's debt, he wants to do the same things. Now, he's being flexible and new, some people in different roles, and, you know, I don't think he'll play the captain up the field consistently out, but also likewise, I don't think he can play him deep every game. I think you've got to pick and choose the games, and how to use them, where to use them, and how to get the best down, because you've got so much talent. You've got to find a way to keep them on the pitch. I totally agree. You have to have them on the pitch. We have this here. It does a Jared, this Liverpool, does a week in the team, and absolutely it does. Tony, Tony, do you not think that, by having Coutinho and, say, Henderson in there, you offset the fact that his legs aren't what he used to be, so he doesn't actually need as much mobility because he's got a lot more. He's got two lads there covering a lot of running and getting in front of players, so he doesn't seem to get as overrun as he would. Say with Lucas, who also has mobility issues is well along, so I don't. Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously, if you put people who've got high energy, you know, it will help, you know, games like Arsenal and Villa. But, you know, they pass the ball up at the Emirates. They pass the ball round, and then he got caught on the seals. He's also not the greatest user of space ever, because he was a better user of the ball, always, and it's difficult to learn at this stage in your career. And, you know, when your legs mightn't quite have as much in them as the one side. You know, I'm skeptical that it's an even a medium-term solution, but while he's playing like this, like I said, you can't argue. Yeah, I agree with what you're getting. I told you that you can't really argue with his performances against Evan and Arsenal, but at the same time, they're kind of specialized games where, you know, we're sitting back and there's not going to be much space around Gerard, like, to play around him. Like, you can't argue with what he did. Like, Arsenal, they used Gerud a lot, like, you know, to build a play. And every time I went into his feet, and he got held up by the centre backs, Gerud kind of snapped into a tackle on him. And like, you know, like games, like you said, away from home against poorer teams or whatever, where we used to kind of play out a bit and, you know, kind of open up and be expansive. Like, there's just going to be a lot more space around Gerud. That's where my worry would come from with him playing in front of the defence. Yeah, I mean, if you got a team where we were getting the midfield runners going from deep, and, you know, and come on past him, you know, a big tall man, you know, sort of as a pivot on the ball, knocking it down and the runners come through, it's up front to pick them up. You know, sort of quite as easily, but I mean, say, if you've got people like that, you know, you played, and I've got the personnel to play a different sort of midfield. And maybe that's somewhere where you're going to be playing teams that are a bit more physical. You might play them in steadicality, or, you know, the thing is he has options in that midfield. And for the first time in a few years, that was adoptions. And so, you know, we're best to play the captain. I'll tell you what, that's a great advance from, you know, sort of since about what, 2009, 2010, when, you know, we just put them in and open the best with everyone else around them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Blake. Molly, can I bring you in here? What the hell happened to Arsenal? How much of their ineffectiveness is attributable to how we played on the day? I mean, was it a kind of a perfect storm of them being really, really off the pace and us being excellent? What was your take on that? It was like we said, it was one of those perfect storms, I think. You know, the early goal obviously really helped us. Then we scored, what was it, three or four minutes after that? I think it actually was a shell shock after that. They didn't know what to do, they didn't know, should they attack us because they know we'll detect us. We were coming back and then again. They were kind of past the bar around with field or just lacking of ideas. You know, it was one of those games where everything was clicking the place for us. Yeah, absolutely. Steve, Danny, you were there, you saw the game live. What was your take on how Arsenal did, was it, was there a visible drop up to shoulders? None of the lads actually believe I was at the game. No, seriously, yeah. Seven pictures from the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, listen, it was, you know, obviously as Molly alluded to there, the early goal was massive for us. And let's not take that away from anything. That would have been a completely different game if we'd given Arsenal ten minutes to get into their stride. And everything we're talking about, our shape, everything could have been under question. We could have been in deep shit. But the truth is, after the first goal, I was absolutely disgusted. If that had been Liverpool and they had reacted, even their body language after the goal went in. Yeah, that's what we get now, yeah. Fair enough, fair enough. Okay, whatever, 57 seconds in or whatever, we score the goal. Surely the thing is, everybody, let's get back into this. Come on, still the game is there to be played, right? Ten minutes in, we got the second goal, and it was like a zombie apocalypse. Honestly, they were walking around, they were walking around like dawn of the dead, going, "What the fuck just happened there? Where did that baldy bastard come from?" Honestly, it was incredible. And as the goals went, they showed no hunger, no desire to get back into that game, nothing. They showed absolutely nothing. If somebody had told me, you know, if you walked in there off the street and got a ticket for a game, say you were from a different country, you just wanted to go see sports. And somebody told you... Like Ireland. Yeah, like Ireland, yeah. You know what I mean, if you didn't know the sport and know who was playing and you watched that game, and somebody told you, "The lad's in yellow there, the league leaders, you just wouldn't believe it." And they were that way for the whole game. They did not want to know about it. They wanted out there. They wanted to go on the fucking M1 back down to London and be gone. Yeah, we got to ask the team who's driving confidence. And you see it in games when one team starts to come off, it gets better and better and better. And then they destroy teams that way. Looking at them against Paul is the game before, like, you know, they were struggling and all that. And once Arsenal got the goals scored early against them, they kind of went to himself, "Ah, this could be too early." You know, like, against Chelsea. With Chelsea, it got their backs up and they came out like fucking lunatics against us. With Arsenal, they shared themselves and their confidence was gone, their confidence was shot. And Liverpool just capitalised them so quickly, it was brilliant. I echoed that as well. What got to me was it reminded me so much of our Champions League run into Istanbul in '05. The way we came out of the traps, it was such a raffle-stoiled opening to a game. We just went, "They weren't expecting us to come with them that hard and that quickly." Despite the everything game, right, they weren't expecting us to come out and hit them that hard. And you're thinking back to the event this game and how it feels. It's so reminiscent of that type of game and teams really weren't expecting it. It was just fantastic. You're sitting there and I was in disbelief. You're looking at it at 20 minutes. I remember saying to the lads, "This is the longest fucking game ever." And this was like 60 minutes into the second half ago. "Is this not over yet?" Like, you're never falling in love with half a narrow left to go. It's so rare, especially against Arsenal or something. It's just like, this is going on forever. Did you hear what Mikey owns there before the game? No. He says Liverpool are going to come out with the traps here, they're going to come out flying. I don't think he said, "Shut your fucking meal, did you?" That's not going to happen. That's completely not going to happen. And then the Arsenal, Liverpool, in the first ten minutes of Arsenal are still in the game after ten minutes. And I was going, "What the fuck are you talking about? What the hell is this? He was fucking smart." I tell you, one other thing. So are you saying Mikey alone knows football? He got it right inside of it. One other thing. Looking at our lads, you know, when Arsenal signed Ozil, I taught myself, "Jesus, they've got themselves a player that could win them the league." He reminds me of a fucking German Berbertoff. Honestly, he is a lazy, moaning person. Honestly, and as soon as things aren't going his way, he doesn't. You know what? He's one of those players that, you know those lads that if they open the park on a Sunday, they get a kick five minutes in, he may as well fucking sub them, because they don't want to know about the game for the rest of it. That's what he was like on Saturday. He didn't want to know about it. And he absolutely, for 42 million quid, he would not fit in in our system. They're playing stoke away in a few weeks, aren't they? Mikey on the battalion? Fuck a blizzard blowing in his face. He'd be fucking out of there. That fucker is not enough to play with Balaclava, I'll never mind at all. Paul Browning, can I get some thoughts from you on Martin Skartley? He seems to be a real season on, season off type player. You know, he's flying at the moment. He had been awful before that he's brilliant. He won this Golden Samba and all that. You know, I mean, what the hell is going on? Should we get rid of him next year and then get him back the year after? We should send him out now. The only really consistent season he had was Kenny's full season. Other than that, if someone said to you that would be playing as well as he is now a few months ago when he was scoring on goals every game. Just look at all, let's see. He's just one of those players where I know he's playing really well at the moment. But I think he's been here long enough that I'd say that we'll never be able to fully rely on him for a season. Yeah, I think on Skartley as well, it is serious. It's a season on season off. Ever since he joined, it's always been like he seemed to have one good season, one bad season, one good season, one bad season. Now, I do think that it does help in playing as a right-sided center back. I thought an awful lot of his poor form last season called, when he moved across the left center back when Agar was out injured. The same thing that happened when Kenny was there for the runner after Christmas. Agar missed most of the time out of the Christmas and Skart moved across the left center back and didn't look as solid as it was. I don't think he's ultimately the answer. If you want to push on and win titles in the hole, then again, if you win it this year, I'm not saying it. Which we will, which we will. He's the type of center back that you'll imagine will be in a title win inside. He's done a good job. He's held a hell of a lot better since Christmas than he had before Christmas. If you can get players into form as you come into a run-in, you can't ask for more than that. In fairness to him, he's proven a real threat in the air from corners. He stopped poking blokes on it. He looks a better player for him. He reminds me of a Ferguson player. What I mean by that is, if you remember when United were winning leagues rather than being, you know, dwindling in mid-table, they used to have players that came in in patches. Nanny wouldn't be seen for three months, and the fucker would come in and score seven goals in three games and then disappear on holidays for two months ago. You were thinking, you know, he did it with Berbertoff. Berbertoff was in an amazing streak of form, and he took him out of the side, and I forget who he put in instead. I don't know whether it was Rooney coming back or someone at the time, and they hit a purple patch as well. And, you know, if we can get that, fuck it. Let's enjoy it while we can, because if we're getting scared in his purple patch now, great. You know, I'd like to see him stay next season as backup. Tony mentioned earlier on about Brandon Rogers maybe needing to strengthen center half. I don't know whether, personally, I don't know whether that's our main area. I know where he's probably coming from in terms of the injuries and stuff like that we've had this season, but I think we've got Agar, Skirtle, and Sacco, and then Turre still there as a backup, and possibly Andre Wisdom coming in as a young lad who's done, from what reports say, quite well, so far. I think we've much more pressing areas to be worried about than center half, personally. If Aaron has, they've been helped with the fact that Johnson's not in the fucking team alone, we'll all just call him. Yeah, I agree with you. Absolutely. Actually, nothing more, and he'd say, and that's a pretty fun spot on. Molly, talk to me about some highlights of the match for you outside of the goals, which were obviously some of the more clearly wonderful skirtle himself, but that second header was just bloody spectacular. But tell me about some of your highlights of the match outside of the goals. I'll come to Tony then next. It's just your overall teamwork. Everyone absolutely warped their socks after one another. You know, I looked there in the midfield, the one stage, and Gerard was so composed. And he actually played, I think it was kind of a center-back role more than a defense midfield. I thought against Arsenal, and Joey had Henderson continue there in front of him, who were working their socks off, tracking back, harassing every Arsenal player to come on the ball, and every time, what really impressed me was, every time they won the ball, he wasn't just storage as far as he's going up front. They were all going for it, his storage, Suarez, Sterling, Coutinho, Henderson. They were all bumming forward. I thought it was really impressive. Other teams you see, we did go on the break. You might have won two players going up against three or four defenders. Wasn't that for us? It was four or five. It was kind of forward for us. Yeah, absolutely. Tony, I think in particular, stand there from here outside the goals. It was a particularly highlight for you. Oh, well, a couple of things. I mean, the movements. The movement going forward was brilliant. You know, it's... they dragged the Arsenal defenders all over the place and never let them settle. I mean, Suarez, you know, the volley and the freak here. I mean, you know, it's just an outrage, isn't it? It's unbelievable. And it's Coutinho. I'd love to watch him because he takes a look before the ball arrives and then he wants to get up forwards. You know, it's not square. You know, no safe percentage passes, but you know, get everything. Get everything. Go on, man. Go on, go on to the end of that. You know, you're going to love that, haven't you? Yeah, absolutely. It's the biggest fucking regret that match is that Suarez effort not going in. Oh. The biggest regret of fucking season. If that goes in... You just turn... Makey off and I'm fucking in at the TV. Corin's down fucking game all over. Good luck. Just turn it off. Turn it off. Yeah. Louis Suarez, it's all gone. I enjoyed seeing us kicking the shit out of Jack Wilshire. I thought that was brilliant because I was... Do you remember he left one on Jarrod? Jarrod got him back. Henderson took him out, continued, like dominated him. No, you're not only did he dominate him. Like, Wilshire was roiled like all match and continued just wound him up to bits. And Sisoka was well standing up to him when he... How good was that? That was trying to be scary. Ah, blessing. Seeing a great tweet was a wheelchair. Once the CL of Jarrod's pocket, he just has to get up on Ross Barakty's shoulders. Nice. For me, yeah. You know where he does Wilshire? He's got sort of player. When things are going wrong from, he'll leave us forth in. So make it look as if he's making an effort. You know what? He's a windy little twat. I wonder if maybe Rodgers, like, had that was part of his plan. I don't know whether he told us to kind of have a go and try and need a wheelchair. Or whether we were just doing it because Wilshire's a cunt. I have to say, right? Quite out to the guy for me. I had to be Coleo's miss. I have to cry. I have to shut out the pose. Because even the space afterwards, he was like, "Oh no! I know he's having the funniest thing I was like, "Ah!" There was two bits for me. In the second half, Coleo went up. I don't know what attack and piece of play was, but he went up. And they broke. And I swear to fuck. It was the slowest I've ever seen. I'm fairly sure we attacked and then they broke again by the time we got back to our box. It was insane. And on top of that, there was actually a quite a nice moment in the cup. There was a man to rose in front. And after we scored our fourth, everybody was going fucking mental. As you can imagine, we're looking at the scoreboard. No one can believe it. And he just had tears running down his face. And it was a 75th birthday. And it was there going, "This is the best birthday ever. You know what I mean?" "My birthday is Saturday." "Ah, it will be Thanksgiving." "Thanks honey." "Wait, were you crying as well?" "I'm bollie." "I'm bollie because you called us Mickey." "I don't know what happened to him." "You'd be crying too." "I'll just say, Louis Suarez, like, he didn't score on Saturday. Boy, Jesus, again. Like, he set styling up for the crowd. Like, we're talking about the volley art thing. He's taking corners. He's just, he's just a joy to watch. Every time you say about him and storage, even like the mist, the body plays the storage that storage misses. You're putting your house on it. That storage is going to score. It just walks out hard. Like, even the gold that he got called, was the one that was real dark? I thought I saw it. It broke true. And that was so tight when he shouted. And Phil, he's good at coming off when he asked us good. He's just absolutely shattered. He looked tired though, lads. I have to be honest. Yet again, off the ball, when Arsenal were breaking, he looked a little bit labored in terms of his getting himself. You know, normally he'd be, you know, clicking his heels together, right? I'll get back into shape and I'll get myself back in position for if we break and whatever. And he was that, he was that little yard off it. And personally, you know, obviously you want him playing against Fulham and hopefully we bash them on Wednesday. I would be resting them on Sunday. I would be sending out aspects and a few orders on Sunday for that. I know we'll get to the preview probably, or. Yeah, yeah. I'd say, I'd say your own for me was Brendan celebrations on the touchline. Yeah. He was loving that so much. Absolutely. And in fairness, one of the things that made me happy as well, when the final whistle went, it was the first time I saw your finger, knock it out, snuck it out, snuck it out and groan because he'd been tumped. There was actually a Royce mile on his face and he just said, "Well, don't, Brendan." And you could actually see him say it and it was like, you're saying, right, he knows he's been doing over at this stage and like he's taking a really happy to do it. You know what I mean? As the wise man, Sam Aradise once said, "We all tacked it to them." OK. Why is fast now? Sorry, I'm impressed, too. And just before we move away from this, this whole thing about Phil's prediction, the five. There's a five. There's a five. There's no minus, too. Five, no. Oh, credit horse, too. He's after calling the big result there on the disabled. Just for the record, when you say he called it right, do you mean his random mental shout of five nails that he just lashed out? Yes. And then, you know, 30 minutes post or pre-kick off when he says, "Arson, are you going to bash us here?" I already gave you a ration for it, OK? And then you had a good few days to think about it in fairness to you. But last week, when you made that void and it showed you, you said, "I don't know what, I don't know if you're going to bash us here. I don't know if you're going to bash us here. I don't know if you're going to bash us here. I'm right on the way. That's what happened. That's true. That's a properly good impression as well. OK. I'm going to hear. I know. Let's move on to our preview of Liverpool versus Fulham, which we hope is going to take place on Wednesday. There's some things being said at the moment. We'll see how that works out. Tony, can I come to you first? The key to this surely is to not change the midfield set up. Would that be fair to say? Is there a lesson to be gained from what we did on Saturday? Well, I think, well, Liam, from what United did, don't go wide. Don't bang crosses in, which we don't do anyway. Yeah. Get them down the middle. Get them with pace. I think this should be relatively routine. I mean, to remind you, there were times when West Brom looked like they shouldn't be in the fell asleep a little bit. But I think Fulham is still in a British array. I mean, they got a draw at the really bad side. So I wouldn't be feeling too good about myself if I was a Fulham player. So as he said, it's a compared into conference teams. But like him, I think it's just a case of him. Get the ball. Get the ball. Get Courtenio on the ball in the midfield. Get the ball up. Get everything to freeze. Get the runners going through. And I think it'll be relatively straightforward to me now. I'm thinking to myself, three now would be nice. That would be very nice, Tony. Paul Brown, do you think Fulham are going to snap at us a lot more than what Arsenal did? No, I think they'll try and do what they did to you know. It'd basically just try and sit back. The only real change to the midfield that I'd make. I'd want you to rest your head and bring Holland in as the deepest midfielder. I think we're going to be pushed up a bit higher and he's a bit more mobile. And it'll also rest your head for the Arsenal game. Because I'd just do the exact same to Arsenal, what we did at Anfield, just do the same. And the Emirates look. So the Fulham game, the Fulham game, that's how I did bring in Holland. Excellent. OK, thanks very much. Andy Young, what do you think, midfield stays the same? Yeah, well, you know, that's how Roger's rolls. But I don't know whether it's going to be the right thing again with West Brom. You know, the same sort of story. Liverpool are going to need to play a player up the pitch and make the pitch smaller. There's not going to be that thing against everything in Arsenal where there's a quick change in possession and the transition in play. He hit them on the break. Fulham aren't going to do that. So you absolutely couldn't drop Coutinho after a game like that. But I certainly would like to see a trail in midfield that's just going to retain possession and just kind of move the play up slowly as opposed to trying to cash from the counter because that's not going to happen. So you really do want to midfield who's going to knock the ball around. Maybe Gerard the way he's been playing that deep are all like, hadn't even thought of that. But maybe you could rest on both. That's unlikely to happen either. But certainly it's going to be a game where they need to just retain possession more and just trying to force it and get the early goal. You've always talked with the early goal early in the season. They can get the early goal. Coutinho isn't he? He's Coutinho because he can pick, not only can he knock the ball longer, but he can pick those little diagonal balls and the piece, the piece of storage there and Suarez, I'll get them on the back foot. He can knock them through, but you know, it's not going to be that space in behind like against Fulham. Well, yeah, yeah, but I mean, the thing is that they'll drag from all over the place won't they? They won't be getting them behind them. But you can play that little diagonal ball. He does it so well that just picks that little yards out which they can get into. And the one thing that the Fulham defense isn't is quick. Yeah, I think the trick here Tony is a bit of reverse psychology. We sit back for 10 minutes on our own 18 yard box and draw them out. Fuck with their heads. No, it's just a big goal for space in the mid-fit. Yeah, I think it's just going to be a game where Suarez goes out and does the damage. Like seriously, I haven't watched them yesterday. Like they're going to pack a fleet of buses, the national express, they're going to pack every single bus they can find in front of the goal because that's what they did. They tried to do it. You know it yesterday, right? And it was a case of if you're not going to get one, you're going to get two and that's exactly what happened. And like any other day of the week or any other team and there's no way to follow my coming back. But you know, it had the Hodgson's about them at the moment. Yeah, and they went and they just cheated and they don't believe they're going to get a result. And I'm looking at the saying given the players we have, the one thing that we don't do is what we did against West Brom. And we need to shift that back for in the game or play up the piece. I can't see them getting, I can't see them having to pace to get behind us anyway if they try and knock a ball over the top. Richardson could be, Richardson could be one that causes a little bit of trouble. I tell you wanting, and obviously this is going to be reverse jinx. But Richardson always seems to do something stupid against us. So remember we now feel what's on the line of doing stupid things, giving away the penalty and the animals getting sent off. Like Paris, I just say we pushed the back forward up a bit, even if Gerard plays and he plays that just a bit higher to the middle of the pitch instead of being sitting behind the actual two centre backs. And stays in front of them, we'll have enough, there won't be enough space for them to get in between say Coutinho and Henderson and cause the trouble that West Brom did. And if we have Coutinho, Henderson, Sterling, Suarez, Storage, up top with the two boys at full backs. And even we've seen that Sasoko went on a rampage down the left wing against West Brom in the terms of the tackle. There's no reason why we shouldn't be confident going into the forum game. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think you could turn out, as somebody said earlier, I think could turn out to be the Suarez show. I think he's just been a little bit subdued in the last couple of games in the sense of just not getting on the score sheet. He was unlucky with a free kick and what I'm with obviously as well. I was at least, I was incredible at that. The free? Yeah, absolutely. And Chezney was not expecting it to come, you know what I mean? Because everything else up to then, what he'd done was he dinked it into that penal spot, 6 yard box and let the lads go and attack it. But I think we could see something like a Suarez free kick or just, you know, the way he tore an Irish apart. I could see him just doing that on his own Wednesday night. And then the lads follow in suit, hopefully, but hopefully he will just provide that bit of magic that you know, you just don't have at the moment. They just don't have that bit of magic to unlock, you know, a resolute defense like Fulham. And I think Wednesday nights went, he's going to want goals. He's sick of looking at storage banging them in. No, I mean, I was waiting to hear people start having a goal with Suarez and how many goals he scored. Lady, but his level play hasn't dropped one big. But the goals have just been shared, you know, running and got Suarez, Suarez, Suarez. Like just what a player is scoring. Just a point on Fulham, they're not good at defending set pieces. And as I was stacking up earlier, they were being the most score as a set piece in the Premier League this season. The Fulham game in Anfield, that really started with two set pieces as well. Two corners, one was an old, I was a free kick wasn't and Suarez was trying to claim it. And then there's a skirt header. So, I mean, a couple of free kicks and deep areas. That could be an excellent reason even to just start Jared and take him off after 60. Just his set piece delivery this season has been, you know, fair enough, actually, you know, he had two great set pieces within ten minutes. And some of his corners were straight after that. But in terms of the amount of assists he's provided from set pieces. Jared, Jared's always been like that. One corner is, there's no one better hitting the corners once he gets it over the force man. Because it's impossible to hit the ball is coming. They're like an arrow. But it's the same with his in-swing or three kicks as well. Sometimes they don't beat the force man. He doesn't float it in. You know, Gary Mac float it in. Like, you know, chances are you're going to get to where you want it to go. But if you get a downer, it's going to cause damage. Jared is aiming for the fire post every time. You know, so it misses everyone that's going in, you know. Paul, do you think if there is, as people are saying, if Aager is fit, do we look to get him some minutes? You know, in the next match, would you look to make any changes, really? I know you've spoken about Alan or anyone, but specifically Aager in defense. Aager, well, yeah, I wouldn't mind. Especially, you know, like, I probably start just with the same two lads that started against Arsenal. And then bring Aager on if we can. I don't think that I don't think there's too much point, like, faffing about at the back. With the personnel at the back unless we need to. But yeah, like, it'd be great to get him a few minutes and have him kind of as fit as we can get him. Like, sorry, a sharp match, sorry, as quick as we can for the run-in. But yeah, I wouldn't kind of risk, risk him unnecessarily. Yeah, absolutely. I think the Arsenal game is perfect for this, especially bringing it back to someone like Aager. And if they're talking, the chance might be fit as well. So, you know, there's no reason not to play them. Because they'd be forced 11 players three or four months ago, so you can you can throw them in there. If we're winning by a comfortable score, get the match or why not and have a few. Like, let's be realistic. We're going for the double here. We need to get as many fit players on the team as possible. So what's the story with Sacco? Every match that comes up this room is that he's going to be fit. Well, I seen him on Twitter earlier on in the gym, breaking the chains. Yeah, there are no more weeks. There are no more. But I'd be silly to risk Aager, I think, because the last thing you want is an out front of half a dozen games. Because, you know, we're going to be... That suggests any of you want them in to the team as soon as possible. When he's right? When he's right, yeah, absolutely like him in. I know, I know Torey and Saccoy have been playing quite well together, but still Torey's far choice for me each time. You know, so you get Sacco back. You just couldn't draft Scout the way he's playing. But you get Sacco or Aager, whoever's fit for, stay in there. Okay, Molly, can I come to you first for our predictions then, please? How do you see this match going? Well, to be honest, I'm sorry. You're worried about this game, you know. Oh, yeah. I did the 5-1 after the win. I might have found this going on, yeah. This one is going to be easier when we're on point 5 or 6 now. I'm not too sure about that. I can see Fulham sticking just 10 men behind the bar, and we're going to have to try and break them down. You know, I think one of last, but a great point here, and I think it could come down to a bit of magic from Suarez. I would snap her hands off for one and win right now. Yeah, well, that's fair enough. Tony Evans, I know you kind of have predicted something earlier on. Would you stick behind that? I think you were looking at a pretty comfortable win or hoping for one. Yeah, I've seen Fulham a couple of times this year and the knock grades. I mean, the addition to Holtby helps them. He gives them a bit more energy in the field and closes people down. But, you know, if they sit deep and they let us pick up the ball, if they left the captain or continue to pick up the ball, 35 yards out, and then try and close them down, the movements of a front three will just kill them. I mean, I just don't see them old notes. And, you know, if we really siege the goal, like United did, I'm telling you, we'll score goals. Lovely. Steve Deli. It feels waiting for a big three-one shout-out. Three-one, please. Andy Young. Yeah, what are you going to make me get all worried now about this one? Sorry, mate. No, like, everything has been more around Fucking Fulham all season. You know, you know it. And that was just a crack yesterday. You know, it's fucking dropping points against them. You know, especially at home, people have been terroring. Fulham are fucking some Asian every game. So anyway, listen, I think we've had, we've had during a Fulham, an awful lot. And it makes you think back to Maxi destroying them as well. And so I think we can see it just from a stupid goal. Maybe goal three. Yeah, three-one. Yeah, three-four-one. Four-one. Just to be there. Paul Brandon, you should. I'll go for a conservative two-one. Oh, yeah. It reminds me a lot of the West Brom game following the Everton game, where it's going to be completely different, like, completely different approach to what we're going to have to take. And I'd like, I don't really see it being a cake walk either, so I'd say two-one. Yeah, I think it's going to be tight as well. I think the way Suarez is due to pull us out of that fire. And I think he might just do that, but he had goals. So, Phil Casey, we're under it. Let me gaze into my crystal ball here. I'm picking number on my whole. I am on joke inside. I think we win this one. I've seen good things in terms of the way we've played in games. This, to me, just doesn't seem like we're going to slip up, and I think we probably win six or seven now. Brilliant. Okay, excellent, right? On it to our next part of the show, listeners, questions. And we have a special one to kick this off for you, Tony. This is from Dame Offload32 of this parish. And he's wondering, is it true that you would rate Paul Lambert ahead of both Brendan Rodgers and Roberto Martinez? I think he's got the potential to become a top-class manager and over the length of his career. Oh, yeah, I think he's going to be a really good manager. And, yeah, I mean, I think he, I'm judging by what I've seen of all three. He's the one long term as I have the most belief in. But you know what? I've been wrong before. Very helpful. Okay, next question. Sorry, Molly, I'll do something after that. Just have a quick question there for Tony. We have asked him again, sat down in the FA Cup, if you're offered last Friday that you could already be asked at once, whether it be the league or the FA Cup match, which one would you take it? The league? That's definitely, definitely, well, you know, it's a, and then, then there's me all middle-aged, cynical, livable, fun view of the first time, because then you get another chance to beat them. Yeah, that's all right. Paul Brennan, you're up for the next question. Just from Marco Lopez at Funny Mark Hall. He asks, this is a United-based question, so we should just probably revel in their discomfort for a few moments. Who's to blame? Is it David Moyes or is it Alex Ferguson? Definitely, definitely Moyes. Like, I know people are trying to say Ferguson chosen, but like, Ferguson should have been told to fuck off when he started saying that it was Moyes. So, like, they're, and, yeah, it's like the board, obviously, for what Moyes is in, 'cause he's an absolute chancellor, like, at that level, but... It's great, isn't it? It's so much fun. Yeah, it's hilarious. Like, I sounded like a wounded animal laugh, not that Darren Bennet. I was worried that the name was me playing on the wall, saying if I was not right or something. It was hilarious. Do you know where... You just read the Moyes that performed. It was 81 glasses. No, I don't, sorry. No, go on, go on. I don't blame either. I think what, you know, it really needs is a singing section. (laughing) What they should do is put it on trial, okay, in the Champions League, and if it's successful, bring it into the league. (laughing) And then, you know, it'll be just back then on. Oh, cynical bastard. (laughing) Steve O'Daley, closet blue of the group. Yep, that's me. Yeah, no, it's Moyes without question. You know, like, listen, Ferguson isn't picking the team. Ferguson isn't lacking motivation. He isn't lacking tactic, well, he did lack tactical awareness. (laughing) No, he's not lacking tactical awareness, even though he did for many, many years. But what I'm saying is you can't blame a bloke who, fair enough, yeah, he had a hand in appointing him. But that's like saying fucking, I don't know, you know, it's someone else's fault that Hodgson was as poor for us as he was. You know what I mean? It's the manager's fault. He's not able to get the players up for it. He didn't buy well. He just keeps getting out tactic. Yeah, he gets out tactic. And he's abysmal in the transfer market. He always has been. He's always panic bought at the very last state. He's done it in the summer. He's done it in January. And I don't see it being any different in the summer. He did, well, it will be because he won't be fucking there. Let's be honest. Yeah, fair. He's someone else's fault. This is one of good, I disagree. Fing some more left to me. He was steaming shite on the face. (laughing) You know what, Tonya? I don't agree with you, Dan. And you know what? And then come the summer. The failure in the transfer market wasn't down to noise. It was down to where it was. It took over from David Gill, who just blundered through every transfer negotiation. He made transfer negotiations look like, oh, I don't know, look like Bayern Munich's, you know, and so the thing is, what he needs to do is he needs to spend a lot of money in it, actually. But I don't see how you blame Fargus and for that. You know, he did leave him a team that won the league by 11 points. You know what I mean? That's the long and the short of it, Tony. You know, Fargus and, yeah, fair enough, they were steaming pot of shite, but they're steaming pot of shite that were champions come May. So, you know what I mean? Now they're steaming pot of shite that are looking up their arse that no castle overtaking them. This time last year, I took a column in the paper and I said, you know, it's all going to go wrong. This squad needs 100 million spending on it. And even imagine the stick United fans give me. It was almost as bad as the stick. Live a real fan. [laughter] And you know... Totally undeserved, eh, Tony? [laughter] And they wonder the eagle, like, and so, you know, it was even worse, but you could see this coming. And the thing is, you know, Fargus and... Well, come for a look on Fargus and his heritage as a really, really poisonous one, because where he did is he facilitated the glazes and the whole way that they've operated financially with the club. And he left them with a squad that hadn't been restocked, certainly in midfield from when Ronaldo left. And it's got weaker and weaker every year. And you know what? You've got to say Fargus is a genius because he managed to drag them to the league. But you know what? No one else is going to do that. May's is nowhere near the talent of the manager as Fargus is. He's nowhere near the talent of a manager who should be in church of a club like Manchester. But when you're at, that's like this dreadful legacy that was left. It was always going to be a car crash. Just a one-word answer from it, Tony. Would Mourinho have them where they are now if he'd taken over instead? Or do you think they'd actually be in there challenging? Don't be high. Definitely. And that's why I'm always a shit. And it's his fault. [laughter] I'll tell you what, though. But don't you be challenging with those for the fourth and fifth place? Yeah. They wouldn't be challenging with the title. I think that's fine. We're going to win the league. I'm not having that. Next one up is, I think there's a name that you pause specifically because I don't know how many wrestling fans we have in the room here. I believe you're quite fishy and out of that. He's got a similar taste to you. [laughter] We're trying to grow a gym, the Anvil Neiha played. Hulk Brennan. The question Paul for you is, if you could recreate the 1998 Hell in a Cell, whatever the fuck that was, who would you have the Undertaker throw off the roof? That's from Ryan McTurnan. You can put it on yourself. [laughter] And the rest of the fucking wrestlers. Clowns. [laughter] Ryan, I don't think he's a wrestling fan, mate. [laughter] Next one, Molly. This is for you, fella. It is from Jim Fishlock. And Jim is wondering, what are your favourite cartoons and do you watch any now? Oh, a big cartoon hit, are you? Oh, yeah. [laughter] Even if my husband after my favourite cartoon character was growing up. [laughter] Who's that? Who's that? Mine, boss. You did Js to the Wheel Warriors? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then Js just after their cartoon, for no other reason. [laughter] And even nowadays, I have like a three-year-old and, you know, he'll be watching the cartoons, the Ben 10 and all this type of stuff. And he might fall asleep in my lap. And I would continue on watching the Ben 10. [laughter] [laughter] We could not do that. Good man. Steve Daly, get a skull on this one. We might get this off a few people because it's an interesting one from Andrew Row, who asks, "Which famous person do you look like?" And he does state that honesty is not a prerequisite, but we're in the room, which is so, you know, if you're bullshitting, like so. Who do you look like? What famous guy do you look like? Um, Aquila Perre. What's it? Oh, fucking Chelsea, what's the name? The La Paz? Asper La Paz. Asper La Paz. [laughter] Spanish isn't what it could be. Yeah, I've been, I'll pull up a picture for those that are in the room at the minute. It's really good now for somebody who would know. [laughter] Right, right, hang on. No, you will have to go on and I'll show them. [laughter] You can tell me in a second. Paul Bryan, who do you look like, too? I don't know a fucking idea. Honest to God? I don't know that. Well, who do you just reckon I look like? [laughter] I can't even say nice. Tony Modo, who do you reckon Paul looks like? [laughter] A smack gush. [laughter] Oh, fucking shame. Okay. Next one's from Chris Offlands. Chris, he's out of the original Talf on Twitter and he wonders what would be the title of your autobiography in it. I know mine is, I've forgotten my name. I've forgotten my recent efforts. Anyone else got a shout from me on the autobiography title? Did anyone do any homework here on this? Oh, fucking-- Why is-- I told you so. [laughter] That's-- I was waiting for that one, yeah? Dr. Boyelians. [laughter] Probably, okay. Next one is from Gray. Gray asks, "Which footballer, past or present, Paul, come to you on this? Which footballer, past or present, really fucking lines you up? Just a side of him, the mention of his name to set you off in one." We are Ferdinand. [laughter] He seems to crop up a lot in these conversations. [laughter] Just, I'm not getting into it again. We are Ferdinand. Ferdinand, Steve there, the anyone? There's two, probably. Jack Wilshire, actually. I hate the little bastard. I'm Victor Moses. Victor Moses. Victor Moses. Yeah. Just the sign-- I said it here before, every time I see him warming up on the sideline, or his stupid head in the dugout with a big duffel coat on, I just think, fuck off. [laughter] I don't know. I feel you hate most things. Um, how would you go for? Might look like strange enough. Oh, yeah. [laughter] Stewart fucking down. [laughter] Oh, man! Even if it's genuinely the time to fucking wind up, it makes me close me face and just wanted to go on a rampage. Calm down, failure amongst friends. [laughter] Let's go to Molly again for the next one. Your first celebrity crush, mate. Ooh, that's a good question. I suppose I had a couple of handshundies to be done in the day. [laughter] Look, nobody's going to beat that. I'm just going to move the fuck off. [laughter] Christ. I want to hear your own shrimp. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really want to hear your shrimp. I already have one. Go on. Baby Baskin. [laughter] The actually, the actually want to hear it. The same poster is Andy Dufresne. [laughter] Go on here, Trev. We do want to know. We do want to know. [laughter] They don't want to hear Tony's. [laughter] Oh, yeah. Well, actually mine goes by. Uh, probably Olivia Tracy, who was Miss Ireland and then Miss the universe or something like that in about 1985 or '6. I had a picture of her under freezer hidden away from the crowd. Oh, under the freezer? Yeah, yeah, I was 13 at the pub. [laughter] It was probably for a bit of Moly action there. [laughter] Tony, Tony, what was yours? Oh, you know what? I don't know if you would like-- Do you say silver, black or a fucking hangin' up there? [laughter] This is a girl, the puff. You should be goin' the match. [laughter] No, um, first celebrity crush. I like Counties Beggin'. But not user old enough to remember that. I don't know what she is ago. I tried to throw it with silly blackity or Tony. [laughter] No, no, I'm out. [laughter] You wouldn't say that to me if I was in the room. [laughter] Hey, Andy Young, this is for you. This is from Barry Carr. Actually sounds familiar. If you had a seven-item breakfast, what would all of the items be in it? Er, right, I'm not mad at the bacon, so I leave that. So, it's all sausages, er... Clonic-hilty, why are you puttin'? And then the rest, eggs. Whatever amount of items I have left. Now, eggs, right? [laughter] You love eggs, aren't you? Er, this is-- This is Andy's cooking corner, come on. [laughter] This is life-changing, okay? I don't know what way you make your scrambled eggs, whether you put them in a pot or you put 'em in a microwave, just to be lazy and give them a store or whatever. Do you have a microwave? Er, do you have fuckin' scrambled eggs in a frying pan? Yeah. Do it that way, and if you really wanna go out there, we'll put a few chili flakes in it. But it's a life-changer. I don't know, like, Steve will obviously do your fuckin' scrambled egg in a pan the other way, yeah. Well, they do them in a pot or a pan, but they're a little non-stick. They're a non-stick pan. They've got to find, if it's in the pot, they draw you up very badly, you know, and they get real barley, and you can't get the last few eggs. No, I don't know. You have to, there's an egg to it, and it's about the right quantity of milk, little bit of milk. Milk, no, no, no milk, into the pan, and just scramble them up while they're in the pan, and make sure the yolk and the whey part doesn't mix fully. No, no, no, no, no. No milk. No, and miles off me. No, you've got to get the whisk, you've got to get... You have to get the air into it. You have to aerate. You have to aerate. I'm making pancakes. I make incredible scrambled eggs. All I'm going to do the next time we come here is, I'm going to make you some scrambled eggs and see you at the tank, Andy. Well, we're here. On air. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll bring you down some. I'll bring you down some. With both make eggs. Yeah, and we're going to video one. And we get the last taste here, and we're just like, nobody can see who made it, you know what I mean? I'll see you in the noise. Dine taste test. That's, that's, that's, that's. Well, anyone who's listening, do your, if you do your eggs and microwave are fucking pots, you're wasting your bollocks. Get them into a frying pan, a little bit of water, salt, pepper, and if you want to really go a few chili flakes. Thanks, Andy. You're eating a Mickey bean. Thanks, Andy. That was, that was fucking illuminating. We need to get away from that topic quickly, because Andy's passionate about this shit. Paul. Nick, who's at Mercy Boy Red, asks, if you could remotely control one person that's not about anything to do with football, who would it be? Can I say we offered? None the game. Fucking control of into the biggest ball game. You know what they're saying? They're prick. Thank you. That's concise. Next one up is from Jasper A. And she's just had a coffee bowl. He's taking the earphones out in the squats. And you can give it a pedal. Look at it. I'm sorry. No. No. No. No. Is from Lucy. Oh, no. She's, she's asking, what's the most embarrassing single or album purchased? I actually, I'm going to try and get this off a few people. Molly, I'm coming to you in a minute, but I'm going to start with Steve Daley here. The most embarrassing single or album deep ever brought. The Spice Girls. Oh, fuck me. I only bought it so I could look at the pictures on the inside. Do you know the little thing they used to give you with the album? Are we back to Celebrity Crush? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you store it under the freezer, mate? Nah, man. Did you store it under the freezer to wrap it around? I don't just say "Albany O'Donna." I couldn't, I couldn't open it after about two days. It was stuck together. Molly, most embarrassing single or album purchase, mate. Well, the first album I ever owned was "Berem person," it was "Wem." Oh, God, yeah, it's got on. I don't know how that means, it was "Wem." I've won, it's great, it's... That doesn't surprise me. Why was the chorus? The chorus. Yeah. They only met me at the time and I was listening to the chorus, and it was a fucking day break for the relationship because she couldn't fucking believe I was listening to the chorus. So, hang on, hang on. So, it actually worked for you. Is that what you're telling me? Well, I had to stop listening to them. Oh, fuck it. Oh, that's it. Not a woman. Well, here's my fight on the chorus, right? (laughter) Jim Carr, I'm both the boy aliens with Andy. (laughter) So, help you, use your cars in a microwave, or in a car. (laughter) I had a few chilling flakes. Oh, yeah. Just, you'll be... (laughter) You'll be pulling your mic out. (laughter) Would you... Would you let Jim Carr... (laughter) In order to get... (laughter) To get a jump after who says that. (laughter) That's a full congression. (laughter) You'd have to shave that gold tee off anyway. (laughter) Okay, next one. We'll try and get a few people in this as well. Second last one from Mike Hale here, and he's wondering which sitcom character are you most similar to personality wise, not appearance wise. We'll come to you as Pila Quetta for this one. What's the crack? (laughter) Which... Which of the... Which sitcom character are you most similar to? Erm... Schmidt of New Girl. Oh, okay. I knew you'd watch his New Girl. Shut up. Stop been watching that on your daughter recently. That's quite funny. Yeah, I'm probably a bit of a douche, to be honest with you. Yeah, he's quite prissy. Are you telling me about prissy? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nice one. Nice one. For being honest. For being honest. So, it's not a sitcom. It's not a film itself. It's a reg out of the bill, though, probably. (laughter) That's actually a burning set. Yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughter) Okay, last one for today. If everyone on the day trippers, Molly will start with you on the line. If everyone on the day trippers compete at the Winter Olympics, what event would you do right, Molly, you're up? Oh, I suppose Muffler even is in dinner with me. (laughter) It is on a transfer, isn't it? (laughter) It rings up for grabs there, mate. I'll go with skiing. Skiing? Okay, Paul Brannus. If I ski, I remember actually doing it, but I find some self-addison. (laughter) Brilliant. I think I have a natural ability. Okay, brilliant. Paul Brannus. I'm a lazy show. So, I'd probably do it. I'd say, "Call the luge." Is it what you just lay down? I'd just lay down the thing and basically doze with that guy. Yes. I'd rather kind of risk me life than, you know, try and do anything like that. (laughter) Any sort of cross-country skater and that, like that. I think there is, to be fair to the luge contestants. There is some skill to it, mate. (laughter) Not much effort, Paul. It's not exactly like fucking, you know, fucking little yellow ducks going down the leafy now, whoever gets over the line forest is grand. Well, I don't have to do it well. (laughter) Nobody said it was a medalist. (laughter) Brannus is the eagle. (laughter) Stable. I think either Bob's lay or Curly? Curly, fucking rubber, yeah. I've always wanted to. If Snowball fight was a spark and it would be good at that. Are you handy at that, Phil? Not so much, but I'd tell you a quick story about it. (laughter) Yay! If you haven't had a story, I was like, "Come on!" (laughter) It was a, do you remember before it was called? It was called Witness, so it was years ago. And it was a really dirty, mucky one, okay? And whatever bound around at the time, not too mad into music. It was just there for the gargling, the crack. And now, I don't know. I've been a prodigy or something like that at the time. But I got a, everyone was just trying to muck. That was, that's what everyone was doing. Muck balls. But I got a fucking muck ball right and got a whopper of a shot. There was a girl, it was now, was back, going back to crocodile one day in the can from fucking 50 yards. This was up there. There was a board up on this block of shoulders with a camera about to take the snap and boom. Muck ball, camera, fucking miles out of the hand. (laughter) It was fucking brilliant. Like, it happened. (laughter) It happened. Actually... Yeah, sorry first. The one that I would love to do is the ski jump. You know? No. No. No. No. Yeah, I genuinely, I want to know how you're trying to do that. You don't even just do it. I think it's the same. And genuinely, I think it's the same as if you're doing fucking the high dive. You know what I mean? Is that over there once? Yeah. You work your way up and you build the distance and the height that you're coming from bit by bit. Oh man. That to me, I think that's just one of the best things to watch. I watched it all yesterday after, you know, at the forum game. And they were just doing the normal jump and it's just phenomenal. The scale, the scale and there's just bards about it. And you open it and you're floating. And it's like jotting your landing in the hole. And the lads wreck themselves when you get it all wrong. Like, that's the best bit. Like, it's like watching Oyskite and you don't want to see them do well. You want to see them go under Arsenal? You want to see carnage. Yeah. Right. And actually there is one that's just coming in late here from Joel Pepper on Twitter and he is asking when they make a film about this crazy season. Who will play the main characters? He suggests Steve Bishamie for David Moyes, which is a good shout. Crazy eyes, David Moyes. Have we got any shout for whom we play Brendan? Or whom we play any other characters? Anyone around the table? Even he said it has to be for Brendan, doesn't he? Yeah, I think that's a safe one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's Aronist enough. Anyone else? It's a tough one, isn't it? Who main players? Who would you play as Josie? I think you get Kevin Spacey and as Josie. Because you know the way you catch Cleone? Get lost in his eyes, like. It's such a dream. What the actual Harvard celebrity crush is Josie? It's Josie. And we are fucking out. We are out. That's just Brendan. Thanks, Paul. Paul Brennan, giving the day trip a sound bite. That was much 13. 100-year-old Christopher Lee is Manuel Pellegrini. Yeah. He's like Christopher Walken. Right, Brendan. Okay, yeah, just lastly some admin. Then, well done to Noel Tracy, who won the tickets to see the five-time show. Featuring Dee Dee Haman and Jamie Cargar on February 27. We'll be in touch directly on Twitter with Noel. The HJC Cup Ireland is on March 22nd in Astro Park here. Details will be on our timeline tomorrow, so get a team in. If you can't manage that yourself, the Irish Cup lads can fix you up. Contribute to a wonderful cause, and you can watch me in the lads to take home the trophy. Big thanks has always got the Johnny Rep for our simply fucking brilliant intro music. You should check out their new single Give, which is out now. You can follow all our news and views and our smart fee that Liverpool weighs run by the very sound call to her. At least you'll get following that account. And if you want some excellent articles and content, get into molly's www.beyondthecop.com. My own writing is four days a week on the excellent Liverpool Offside website. That's LiverpoolOffside.SBnation.com. Subscribe to all tripory stuff on Podbean iTunes or via any Podcatcher on Android. And finally, your day trippers tonight were Tony Evans, Molly, Andy Young, Paul Brennan, Stephen Daly, the witch Dr. Casey and myself, the nameless love child of two bald wolves, Trav Downey. Oh, what a perfect day. It's not valuable to say you'd let him do it though, is it? What are you talking about? 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Episode 21 lands like a dose of happy infusion as the elation of saturday is spread like kerrygold across the heal of the Batch. Tony Evans from the Times joins us as we talk about the worst number 9 we’ve witnessed, get into Arsenal and everything happy. Talk about a game that mightnt take place and finish up with cookery lessons, hand shandy’s alien abductions and why every mother will be checking under their freezers tomorrow.Big Congrats to @tigertracey on winning the tickets for Carra/Didi in the Olympia on Feb 27th.Dont forget the HJC cup on March 22nd. Get on www.irishkop.com and even if you havent a team the lads will fix you up with one. A great day and a great night in the Cuckoo’s Nest will be had after.
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