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So yeah, summer I'm ready for you Select styles ends May 23rd some exclusions apply see store or Coles dot com for details If you're snacking on anything, but tasty cake you're making a huge miss cake a Fistful of chocolate covered raisins miss cake a spoonful of peanut butter bigger miss cake or the worst miss cake of all Your kids Halloween candy and it's May if it's not tasty cake It's a miss cake because nothing satisfies like a perfectly sweet butter scotch crimp it or rich and creamy chocolate peanut butter Candy cake tasty cake except no substitutes Now we were really fortunate to get a chance to speak to a recent Liverpool great Rob Jones earlier today Here's the interview interesting stuff. Roberts absolutely fantastic to have you with us on the day trippers today Let's just get straight into the questions. You're rival at Liverpool football club It's nothing short of fairy tale stuff You were essentially plucked from the lower divisions with Dario Grady's crew by Graham soon as the play with your own idols Making incredible debut shutting out Ryan Giggs and and you know in the score of straw when you look back at that now Does it feel like almost like a dream did the suddenness of at the speed of the transition? You're right. I mean, yeah, I mean it does it, you know People talk about it now and you know and I do I mean, you know, I don't think really happens now does it? I mean at the time then I was playing in you know fourth division football You know Graham soonness Came to watch me. I think on the on the Wednesday night One of the players playing at Gresty Road And then I got the phone call on the 30 nights from Dario, you know saying that you know the team that I support You know as a big fan Liverpool wanted to you know, have a chat with me So, I mean if that wasn't a dream come true I mean when I met Graham soon as when I met him on the Friday You know, you mentioned to me in the car that did I fancy playing against Manchester United on Sunday like on tell him and marking Ryan Giggs I mean, you're right. It felt a dream at the time and if you look back now, you do your laughter, you know But you know, I just remember thinking you know, yeah, you know, you asked me would I be able to cope? I said, yeah, you know, of course we'll be able to cope even though, you know, I knew I was gonna be very nervous and I think on the day just got out there and just thought to myself, you know, this is your one chance You've always wanted to play for Liverpool, you dream to play for Liverpool, you know, you mess this up You know, if you can I always felt like I started getting worried and nervous about thinking about things that you know I messed it up So I just went out there and and played my game and I think lucky enough I've got a few early touches, you know, early doors and you know, and and have a good game And it just sort of went off from there, man. Well, I mean, I don't think look at anything to do We're I think everyone was so impressed with it with it with this this suddenness with which he talked to the level of football I mean, Stephen Madam and There's a reference in your book robbed where he says that you would have been in English number one Had it not been for injuries He also had you in his all-time 11 alongside sit down and everyone like that in 442 and anything that I saw When we're discussing out all time 11s Robbie featured in the discussion quite a lot And there's an awful lot of this but for the injuries and all that kind of thing that does that annoy you You know when you look back and you'd made over 240 appearances over a decade at Liverpool I mean for the first five seasons or so you were pretty much ever present I mean, does the injury thing sort of annoy you I know what you're saying. Yeah, you know, you know I should say every interview that I do I think the injuries always brought up, but Again, I suppose it was a big part, you know of my career I mean every time, you know say, you know, when I came in for the pool side, you know, I was playing well and you know And played for England, but then I got the Shinspletz, the Shinspletz was a big thing then And I think because I missed the European Championships, that's somewhat was making the papers quite a lot. So I think that you know You know, all the injuries that I had there were never little, you know, hamstrings or calf injuries There seemed to be big, you know, big injuries, but you know, yeah, it's always, you know, what if I mean with England Korea You know, I know I got eight caps, you know, I was, you know, always great to represent the country And yeah, I would have loved to have got more, but it just wasn't the case and you know I look at the positive as well. I look back at my grades. I think as you just said, you know, 240 appearances You know, you know, if I cut winners medal, which you know a lot of players can play, you know, maybe 500 appearances and not You know, you know, an ethical medal or, you know, any type of medal. So yeah, you know injuries always brought up I understand people talking about them because you know, it was a big part and obviously ended my career at 27 years of age Which again, which is a young guys to finish a career, isn't it? But absolutely, but even in the early part where you were flying and your form was quite imperious And I know, you know, a lot of us remember that that period very finally in your own form in particular very finally I mean just purely on form alone. Do you think you should possibly have represented your country more in those years? Well, yeah, as you say, you'd have hoped so, but the injury every time has seemed to, you know, get into the European Championship side. I mean, the telly vanibals was looking at picking me in 96 I broke my vertebra, you know, I said I've struggled for probably six to six or seven months with it, you know, carry on playing with it We never sucked it out and then just as you know, I was supposed to go with the squad, you know, that happened So, you know, you know, obviously I look out for a few more. But as you say, you know, it wasn't to be and You know, that's why the injuries, you know, did play, you know, quite a big part in in my career Sure. Well, a lot of us would think of you as the best signing of that soon as era As fans from the outside It seemed to start off quite well as you said, there was a very enjoyable cup win In 92, but that there was that just it went into a bit of a spiral didn't finish up with Graham's resignation Could you tell us in that last season? What was it like in the dressing room? I mean, um, and then when Roy Evans was appointed Was it what did it feel like it did for us fans? Like there was a kind of a cloud lifting or or was that just? Yeah, I think everyone always tries to, you know, look at something that was maybe going on in the dressing room That why the results were going to I just think with a big transitional period when when Graham took over and it probably same self like I said in my book that You know when he did come in, you know, possibly, you know, um, you know, the John Barnes is in the end rushes You know, he could have got them He under his wing and and got them to help him Um, but he just sort of went the other way and I mean, you know, I say he brought Mark likely But a great center after an England center and I'm giving the captaincy And I think it was a few little things going on, you know, there, you know, but that was, you know, it wasn't Mark Wright's fault But to be honest with you, I, you know, sort of just joined the team. I was a young lad and I sort of kept out to be low You know, I just I played my football Um, but then you know Roy took over Obviously, Graham Wentz and Roy took over and then Roy was then the young lads were sort of maturing and working at the Jamie Red Naps With Stephen Mannerman's and Robbie Fowler's and myself, we're all coming through And, uh, Roy just strengthened it, strengthened the team then in a few different areas and You know, we played some baseball. Well, with Roy, I think we were, you know, we were close at some stage to Uh, one of the closest we've probably been to the Premier League Then, um, it just seemed to be that Manchester United just seemed to be You know, then just a lot more consistent than we were It's you mentioned some race stellar names there guys that you would have played with like Robbie Fowler, Steve McManaman Um, you would have seen the emergence of Michael Owen, um, Jamie Carragher, Stevie and all those kind of guys Um, what, what, how good was it to be part of that team? But as you say, our team that came and certainly flirted with taking the Premier League title How exciting was it to be part of that bunch and who was it in that group that impressed you the most? Yeah, as you say, it was a very exciting time You know, you just mentioned a couple of them as you say there like Steve McManaman and Robbie Fowler Um, you know, there's also, you know, John Bond Ian Rush, I mean, they were just, you know, sort of coming to the end of the Liverpool days But, you know, you know, Rushy was still starting to score in, you know, great goals and traveling, you know, rushing foul Play with Rushy and Fowler up front of me and when you say, I want, you know, I've been asked this question before You know, who would you pick is the best play you've played with? But, you know, I've played with that many good players, you know, like, you know, I've mentioned it there, the Fowler's Rush, Bond, But Manaman, you know, even the Ronnie Whelan and Steve Nichols, I mean, there's been some, you know, great players I've had the privilege to, to play with Um, I always sort of say though, Steve, but Manaman, I mean, I know he put me in the, uh, Is best 11 with Dan and all that, so I've got to do my favourite, but I'm sorry But, you know, Steve and Manaman, you know, when I used to play right back there and he was playing right midfield and We used to bum up and down on the right hand side, I mean, they was probably one of the best two years I had playing, was playing with him Up and down there consistently before I moved to the left back role Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, that's out of a partnership right there Um, yeah, it would be remiss of me if I didn't ask you, I'm sure you've been asked about this almost and much as you have a bit of injuries But those games against Newcastle, you know, those kinds of seminal matches that people remember Um, what was it like to be part of those? Was there a modulation in addressing them after those wins as there was amongst the fans or was it just, well, it's an early gamer Exactly, well, I mean, being a fan as well, I mean, you just, you know, you want to be able to go back to us and, you know, if winning a game in the last minute is, you know, and Both of those games, the scoring was going back and forward, wasn't it constantly? And, uh, you know, you know, in the dressing rooms, in the dressing at the end, yeah, it was Just like probably anybody else was, you know, celebrating and having, and you can imagine what it was like in the Newcastle dressing room It would have been completely the opposite, wasn't it? So, you know, we were just happy with the three points and exactly, you know, scoring the last minute was Some believe, wasn't it both of them were great games? Sure, and with that group, with that team, you mentioned yourself, the closeness that there was to maybe league success Um, did you guys feel it at the time? Did you feel like there was a league title in you? I know you said it, it coincided with the Ferguson era and, you know, suddenly emerging as a force But how much did that hurt as a proper red red wearing the jersey as well at the time? Yeah, I mean, it does hurt that, as you say, um Manchester United seem to turn the corner in the 90s and, you know, they had the David Beckhams who come in through the Neville's, the Skolls isn't that, but, you know, we had, you know, as you said earlier, you know, that the manum is in the fouls and the, you know, I'm Jamie Redknack and plays like coming through So, I don't think we were, we were far off, um, you know, and at times we played some really good football. I mean, when we meet, meet up, you know, see the next players now and then, you know, we talk, you know, with what happens about the time that he was there and the, and sometimes you see on LFC TV and we played some great footballs. It was good attacking football and they just think, um, we just didn't have that little bit of luck and Manchester United had to say which was, they were strong. They were, you know, they were a good team, you know, um, I mean, Alex Ferguson, a lot of them, and they just seem to, um, just be more consistent. I think that when you look back, they were just a lot more consistent than us. When we did get up there, we were second in the league at some stage and we had a run of, you know, losing a few games and I don't know what it was, I don't know if it was an experience or something or what, but, you know, we just weren't good enough. I suppose you're going to say that to win the Premier League because, you know, I always say the best team to win the Premier League really, don't I? Sure, sure, sure. Maybe just came up that little bit short that somewhere above, yeah, it's just there were so many good players. It was probably as hard for you guys to take, but certainly for the fans looking at all those wonderful players. It was hard to understand. But the end of your book, um, robbed, you talk about losing your love of the game, you know, when it, when it finally comes to the engine, you know, really interesting football. We spoke to, to Niall Byrne and our first ever show. He spoke about the same kind of feeling. Do you think this is due to the fact that, you know, your career is being caught sharp on injury? Or is it something that maybe most pros feel naturally, you know, just true have been involved for so long as they wind down? Yeah, I think everyone must, you know, take it different. I just, I just felt, I don't know if it was because I finished a early. I just couldn't go and watch Liverpool. I didn't really watch football on Kelly. I think it was just my way of coping of finishing maybe, you know, you know, I just felt that I went back to Liverpool. You know, I should still be there and say 20 years of age, you still be thinking, you know, I should be there, you know, or should at least be playing football. So I did. I just lost a lot for the games for, just for, I don't know how long it's hard to say, but then, you know, it does, you know, it come back and, you know, everyone there, you know, was a Liverpool fan beforehand and a Liverpool fan now. And, you know, you know, I've definitely got the Bulls back now and, you know, it's good to be back at Liverpool and doing a little bit now. I mean, Brendan's actually to come back. So I've got that, you know, the Bulls and the fan, but, you know, sort the back in the club as well. So it's a good feeling at the moment. That's, that's something that was, that's really, really interesting. Those guys here watching you being part of the club again. Again, at the end of your book, you talk about how you regain your love through your son, Declan's interest. He's in the academy now, as you are. And how does it feel to see your son carry on that, that, that kind of Jones legacy? How do you shield them then maybe from pressures of having yourself such a such a prominent ex red as a father? Yeah, I mean, it's great to have a, you know, some, you know, play football. I mean, I said to me for the matters. If you play football or what. And, you know, he has no pressure on him at all. And, you know, he goes to the academy. It's a great academy there. So he's 12 years of age, and I just say, just, you know, go out there and enjoy yourself. You know, there's no pressure on them at all. And I don't put any pressure on him, you know, and that's just the way to be. I mean, you know, you know, I don't want him. I think if he felt it was pressure that he'd have to let me grandad play to Liverpool, but I didn't feel any pressure that I had to. I think it just comes naturally that I've said to him, you know, if you work hard and if you, if you're good enough, you know, you'll make it as a footballer. You know, carry on with your skill work and take it from there, really. I mean, that's all I sort of say to him. But, you know, it's been good for me. The other side, I just say, you know, back in the academy and trying to help see, I say, I see the young ads, you know, the under 21s, really. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's great for us. When the story broke that yourself and Robbie and Mack were getting back involved in the part-time capacity, it was such interest over here. I mean, what exactly is your role? I know it was reported at the time that it's a part-time role and focused, I suppose, on your specialist area of defence. How much time is that taking open? Would you think perhaps I know you're a busy man and you've business away from football? Would you consider maybe getting involved full-time in coaching side of the academy in the future? Yeah, well, that's why it suited me. I mean, Brendan called me. I think we have April or this year. And just, you know, mentioned what would come up and meeting with him. I went in there and he just said to me, he said, you know, all the clubs that he's been around, there's always ex-players around. And he said, I've come to Liverpool and there's none of the history of the club. There's none of the ex-players around the training. He's got Mike Marsh, but he wanted to get more around the club. So he just mentioned to me and said, would I be interested in getting involved with the younger lads at the academy? And, you know, sort of mentored them in a way. And, you know, he said, you know, don't worry about coaching. I mean, as he said to me, I'd rather throw a bag of balls like, you know, start taking the coaches. And he said, I've got great coaches there, you know, in Alex Ingle Fork and he's got Neil Quickly there doing the Andre team. So all I do, same as Steve and Robbie, is, you know, we'll go in when we can, kind of, we've all got, you know, work commitments outside of that. And, you know, going, I think Alex will take the training and just help them with the defending. You know, if they're doing something right, they must have been doing something wrong. You know, try and put it right for them. And actually, it's just a mentoring role. And it's worked well. I mean, I've enjoyed it. And I know the lads, you know, I've enjoyed it as well. You know, you've got this for the centre forward there. You've got Robbie Fowler coming and, you know, showing you how to score goals. I mean, that's the car being much more better than that. And, you know, Mack has enjoyed it as well. I mean, in last month, me and Steve went with the under 21s over to Holland. And they played PSC, I know. And we went over there, stayed the night and got to the lads a bit better. And it was a good experience. I enjoyed it. And, you know, I'm sure the lads did as well. Sorry, Robbie. Is there much crossover there in the time that yourself and Robbie and Steve are there together? You mentioned the trip there with the two. Do you guys coming together? Or do you tend to do maybe urine on Tuesdays looking at the defenders and Robbie's? Is that the way it breaks down or? Yes. Well, we do cross out. We've been in a couple of times and we've joined in the fibre side because I think Robbie still wants to be a footballer. So, you know, we have that side of it as well. I mean, you know, I took a team and Steve with the captain of the team and Robbie was a captain of one of the other young lads teams. And, you know, we have a little, you know, five-side competition and sort of play games each other and have a laugh and, you know, get the banter back. So, you know, I don't know if you say we're enjoying it, but we are, you know, we've enjoyed it as well and there's a lot of laughter in the academy and serious stuff as well. But, you know, I can see the young lads coming up and definitely the next, you know, between two to four years. There's some good players coming up and, you know, I know that everyone doesn't get to see sort of the young lads coming up, but I think it's going to be exciting in the next few years. Absolutely. I think some of us will watch the kids very, very closely indeed. I think an awful lot of red-seeded depth of talent that we have in the underage sides there. A full-back, you know, we've got a particular interest in Ryan McLachlan over his side. Brad Smith made his debut there against Chelsea Andrei. Wisdom's been really doing well. We've got flannel coming through as well with tremendous performances recently. Can you maybe take any credit for this, Rob, do you think? No, no, I'd never take any credit for it. No, I mean, as you say, I think, you know, I'd say Alex and Neil, the coach is there. You know, they've got to take all the credit. But what I did say to the lads is that, you know, Brendan's asked us three to come in to try and, you know, helping any way to push it up to the first team, you know, as to if I think if you're at Manchester City or possibly if you were at Chelsea, I don't think you'd get the chance. You know, I don't think I think they'd buy in at least Brendan is, you know, of course he's going to buy as well and a strip in the squad, but he's always looking at the academy. You know, I think it just showed, like, for example, yesterday. I know he's got a few injuries, but, you know, putting Brad Smith and Jordan Ross in 16 years of age, you know what I mean? He's definitely a player for the future or he's showing them, you know. If you work hard and play one of the 21s, you know, I'm not scared to bring you into the first team. Yeah, absolutely, which is very encouraging for those particular guys in question. You just mentioned Brad Smith there, he made his debut yesterday, obviously out of position. It was a real baptism fire for the kid and obviously it's naturally going to feel a bit out of his comfort zone there. What was your take on that particular move by Brendan? And how much did people really, you know, take into account who he came on against and the conditions of the match and the fact that he was out of position? Yeah, I mean, the difficult thing is there with Brad. I mean, I was found as well as coming on, you know, I think if you start again, you know, everybody's sort of on the, you know, the same, like, length. You know, and, you know, when you're coming on 30 minutes to go and, you know, you're playing against world craft players. I just thought it was, you know, I knew it would be difficult for him, but the thing is with Brad is that he's very, very fast and, you know, I was watching there. I mean, he didn't get that many touches in the ball, but he worked hard back and forward and, you know, he got a great touch to give it to him. And then I think it was Kay Hill coming and snapped him in half with me from behind, you know, but yeah, I just think it was a good experience for him. And as I said, it's showing the other lads at the Academy that Brendan will give you a chance. You know, so, you know, Ryan McLachan did quite well as well in preseason, particularly there. He got a couple of runs. What's your opinion of him as a prospect? You know, Ryan's brilliant as well. I mean, you know, I just said that there's a lot of young lads coming up with the like, you know, mostly to mention the same names, but I think it's obviously the fall back situation. But Ryan is definitely, you know, he's great at going forward, but also can defend a great engine on him. So he's kind of everything, you know, a matter of time, really, I think before, you know, he gets to step up as well. But there is quite a, it's going to be difficult for them because as you said, there's a few fall backs. Now, you know, young one, as you mentioned, like, you know, wisdom and not Flanagan and Kelly, so, you know, it's going to be a difficult time. You know, Ryan's definitely going to be within the next, it's hard to say, isn't it, but one to two years, you know, pushing for a first in place, I think, definitely. You yourself and your wife are the owners of a very successful nursery business called Kids Academy. It's a franchise, which is extended, I think, as far afield, as you know, and Emirates, if I'm correct. How rewarding has it been to make a success of a second career, essentially, outside of football? And where does that rank in your own list of personal achievements, Rob? Yeah, it is good that, you know, I think when you finish football, it's, you know, a lot of players are probably telling the same thing and what you do. I mean, that's why a lot of players go into coaching or they go into the media side of it. It's just, my wife was always interested in childcare, so we just got into it through then, and then, you know, it just sort of blossomed. We opened them in the Cheshire area, over in England, and then they've been who the family over in Abu Dhabi. They wanted the franchise over there, so, you know, it's going really well over there. We've got three open at the moment, and we've just bought some of the two properties over in Dubai. So, yeah, that's going really well. So, yeah, it's a different, you know, a different type of business to football, but it's enjoyable. And, you know, we were having a good time without the moment. Excellent. Just to bring it back to football-related stuff to finish up. Before Christmas, we did our own personal favourite, LFC 11s. Who would have been your choice for right back? Maybe we'd stuck to people that we'd seen play. Maybe you could do that as well. Would Steve Finnen come into the reckoning, do you think, or who would have been your share? Yeah, I mean, Steve Finnen, you know, he was a natural right back, wasn't he? He was a great round back natural, a good defender. I mean, he was consistent. I put him sort of with the Gary Nettle over there, if you'd appreciate that. But he was always consistent, wasn't he? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, it's a place that I've watched over the years. I mean, still kneel for me, and I was going back a bit longer, but, you know, still was a natural right back. And could also, you know, score goals. Yeah, that's penalty. I know it wasn't the Premier League, but, you know, he was, I meant the amount of times he played a Liverpool, I think. Phil Neal is the legend of right back, so I think, who's me? Yeah, well, absolutely. It occurs to me at this point, Rob, this may be a bit cheeky, but how did you manage to get through so many appearances so much without starting one for Liverpool? How did that happen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like 50 to one. I mean, but I think it was just, I used to get forward that much, and I just, it just always just, you know, his post, crossbar, goal he making good say, he's just like that. But, you know, I mean, it never really bothered me. I mean, about scoring. I mean, if I could set them up and set a few up for Robbie Farras, I was always happy as long as we won and got the three points. But, I mean, of course, it would have been nice. It's just one of them things. There was never any luck on it. Got me shooting boots on. Well, as you say, when Robbie's in the team, it takes the pressure off a little bit to say this. Listen, Robbie, you've been an absolute chant. It's been fantastic to have you on today. Maybe you might join us for a point the next time we're over in Dublin. We'd be delighted to have a chat. Everyone should get on Rob's book, Rob, as quick as they can, and they're all the best to you in the new year. Cheers. 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