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Finally, we announce our competition to win two tickets to the anatomy of Liverpool Mine Dublin on January 12th in the Sugar Club. Right before the latex gloves get down the Nagori autopsy unpleasantness commands as we move on to our right backs in our worst all-time Liverpool 11 feature. Given his current rate of regression, our current number two may be even featuring the lads thinking here. So I'm going to start with Andy and ask you who your shout for worst ever rightful back is. Well you know yourself when you go on with sort of their best worst. Yes. Yes. Yes. So the next player in my brilliant little cherry reel appreciation squad for a kind of a different reason than all. It's just a couple of players were trying to shift their very own Steven and able to squad, able to team over the years. So I'm going to toss up between Crown Camp and Hoss me. So I'm going to go for Hoss me. Excellent. And would you like to just give a specific reason apart from the fact that he was the album Stevie out of the way? No, that's the main reason. That's the main reason. I'm going to end up being shit as well. That works. Yeah. Fludie, your shout. I'm going to go some along the same lines as Andy there, Crown Camp and Hoss me with two absolute stockings that really fall. But I'm going to go with a guy who was actually made of paper bags and that's Philip Degan. He was constantly injured and he's just an absolute skid mark on the underpants of Liverpool fullbacks. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful imagery. I understand. That's why people listen here. Look, I think he was coming out one day that he was fit. He was actually fit. And then he got injured and didn't even play. Look, how was that possible? That was impossible. So Degan for me. For you for Degan. Okay. Let's see. James, who would you have shared with me? Well, it was leftbacks. Wasn't it last week? And it's four for fucking choice when it comes to bad Liverpool leftbacks. We didn't generally have good leftbacks when we were sort of, you know, really, really good in the '70s and '80s. It was, I mean, and I was thinking it's much harder with rightbacks, but then a couple of people have mentioned Hoss me and Philip Degan. I mean, Degan's a funny one, actually, because I always thought he was quite good with the ball. It's just he wasn't fit very often to actually kind of be on the ball, but when he wasn't, he just had no concept whatsoever of actually playing as part of a back four, he just chased the ball. I thought about saying Skirtle when he actually played it right back against Middlesbrough. He played, I think he's played three times for his right back. He did quite well once in a home win against Bolton, and then he played the next game at right back, due to injuries and got sent off at Spurs, but I'll probably go with Degan, I think, because he was just a bit of a, he was kind of a cult shit signing, I think. A cult shit sign, that's beautiful, we're on a roll here, Phil, how would you go with? Most of our recent rightbacks, so I ended up like the likes of Crown Camp and Hoss me and stuff, I should. Terrence will pass the tail down, I was trying to think of rightbacks, we've been decent enough up until recently, and as we've mentioned there, Glenn Johnson has got fast approach and shit status, he's done well, I'd say 80% of his time at Liverpool, but he has been injury prone, and he's lost ahead recently, but yeah, your talk about fellas who came up reputations and who failed miserably when they arrived here, and Crown Camp was talked up a lot by Rafa when he arrived, he came in from Spain in the whole lot, and he was saying, oh, he's capable of taking Finn and Cheers, the fact was that every time he tried to replace Finn and the player he brought him was immeasurable in comparison to the actual player himself, I think Crown Camp, it was a six months last, it was one of the standard loan deals that we deal with at the moment, so yeah, Crown Camp was going into the bin for me, notable mention for the likes of Hoss me as well, because he was, I don't think I've ever seen a player tour on his badly, and my life was Hoss me when he played it right back. Well, I got around that I would Hoss me, and there's one particular reason for that, it's those lovely pictures of the Champions League win, where he's there with his Spanish flag so wrong, ruining the picture, okay, entirely, that and John Anne Reese's stupid hat almost ruined the whole thing for me, okay, so we're going to move on then to our match review, and we're joined for that by Connor from the final third podcast, welcome aboard, Connor, how you doing? You're not too bad last time at all. Excellent, good to have you, good to have you. Delighted after we're in yesterday with, yeah, not the HDR, not the HDR, any immediate feedback for us there before we get started into our nitty gritty here? Well, I thought that it was probably Chelsea's best display of the season, the first half I thought that they coked well with the deliverable press and game, and I think that the trio in behind the Samuel Eto, William Oscar and Hazard were exceptional, I thought they were the difference makers in the first half, second half they had to grind it out a bit more about Delighted with the win, considering how well their full have been gone recently. How would you feel it was well deserved, Connor? Yeah, I think after the initial period where Liverpool took the lead, I think Chelsea responded really well, and whereas I think that City, Liverpool were a little unlucky at City to not get at least a point from that game, I thought that Chelsea in the end probably fully deserved their victory. I thought that Suarez was ineffective, Liverpool couldn't get him into the game, and I think when you have a player who's that good and you rely on him that much, if he doesn't play well, the rest of the team have to up their game, and others had Chelsea dealt well with all Liverpool's threats, particularly in the wide area as well, I thought Coutinho and Sterling didn't really have much of an impact after the initial period again. Yeah, I think that's very fair. Connor, can I ask it to fill here? Just coming in on one thing, and all there's been a lot of upset and ranker amongst the Liverpool fans around the comments of Mourinho after the actual game, right? But looking at the way Chelsea played, once you took the lead yesterday, is that as close as you've gotten to the Mourinho head days of Chelsea in terms of it was ruthless in executing the victory? You took the lead and he basically then didn't allow Liverpool between being over-physical and being vicious in tackles and stuff like that, but within the loss of the game, if you know what I mean, what they were able to get away with. It was a real, in my mind, it was a real Mourinho performance by that Chelsea team, and to me it was the first real Mourinho Chelsea performance since he's come back. What's your thoughts on that? Yeah, it's probably very true. I think that the first half in particular, I thought Chelsea called him maybe scored in order before half-time, they looked like they were really on top. As a second half, we're on Liverpool dominated more in possession, and Chelsea were kind of playing on the counter-attack, and I think that kind of works. It's different to the original Mourinho player, because I don't think there's as many physical players, but I thought Dava Louise in midfield played very well considering Mourinho said he wouldn't play him there, and the thing about him is he's still rashing the challenge, but I think he offers a lot more in terms of he gets the ball to the attacking players a lot quicker than that same that killed us, but I do agree with you, I thought that Chelsea ground out really well. The two centre halves in particular, Terry and Cahill looked really solid, and they both watched Suarez really well. Just one question before we kick into where we're going to go with some of the Liverpool discussion, but do you think the selection of Edo was primarily aimed at the type of defender Martin Skirtle is, because he allows centre forwards getting in front of him, which was particularly obvious on the second goal, and Edo's forte over the years has always been about getting in front of the centre forward to get the nick chances in around the six yard box. Edo looked like the Edo of old yesterday, and I don't know how much of that was to do with Edo's performance, or how much it is to do with why Skirtle plays the actual game? Yeah, I think it's a little bit about Skirtle, he does seem to get caught out in situations like that, and I think it's also Edo played as well, clearly, because I think he's a selfless runner, he makes, he does it the unseen side of the game in terms of he works hard, he presses, and he also, he seems to link up well with the three creative players in behind, but I do agree, I think Skirtle, I think Skirtle at times, he gets caught out very easy and positions like that, and I'm not sure if it's a lack of pace, or if it's a lack of reading the game right, but he does seem to get caught out in positions like that. Well, that's quite enough, upbeat, Chelsea talk for one moment. If you will indulge us now, Connor, maybe in joining this Liverpool centre again, moaning that we're going to do for a while, be interested to hear what you have to say as we go through, we'll start off by looking at the centre backs, it is on paper at least our deepest squad position, and yet Rogers can seem to get a partnership that suits him or that suits us. James Owens, what were your thoughts on this? Well, I think there's a lot of us for probably months now, have been wondering why we never at any point saw Torre and Sacco, and that obviously for a couple months at least is out of the window now, because Sacco obviously pulled up his hamstring at the end and is possibly out for up to two months, according to report. But I mean in terms of the partnership, my, looking at it on paper and look, none of us have ever got the knowledge that a manager's got working with players, you know, on the training pitch, seeing how they combine and training, you know, even understanding things like how a player's footballing English is coming along, and that kind of thing, when you've got players at Sacco coming in and possibly doesn't speak, you know, a great deal of English and that kind of thing, it shouldn't really be an issue now because it's sort of December, you know, but I look at Scotland, Sacco on paper, and I think, I mean they played, they played together in Sacco's first game at Swansea, and you know, we weren't great that night, but I kind of look at it and sort of wonder, well, they don't strike you as a great partnership, you got one like bedding in and sort of getting to grips language-wise, and you've got another who individually does some things that look quite good, but he's like that lad you play with at five aside, who you kind of does some things that look impressive defensively, but you don't want on your team because he just, he exposes other people, and he's kind of not good for the unit, and he's also not noted, he's not noted as a kind of an organizer or communicator, which when you're putting in another lad who's still bedding in, it doesn't really, it doesn't really sit well with me, and I think we were exposed by that, both against City and against Chelsea, you know, Eto now at 32, and the grader, as well as he's done coming in, neither of them are absolute world beaters, and yet they got in behind us time and again very easily, and Skirtle made some good recovering challenges, but I wasn't really impressed with him as a partnership, and you know, we've kept very few clean sheets this season, I think it's an area where we've not really found continuity, as I said, the thing I don't understand is why we never saw Tory in Sacco, I mean now, presumably Aga's going to play a lot, and you know, I just hope Aga can play his way into form, because you know, he plays a lot at the time when he's hungover. Yeah, Andy, you're telling us a lot? No, it's just on about Skirtle there, you know, we done it to death last week about him grappling in the box, and he's been dealing for ages, and it's been a long group of mine, but over the last week I've been reading a lot of people defend that type of defending, and actually compliment him for that he's dealing a good job, and we haven't got a penalty against us because of it, and I think Roger's is telling him to do, and I think he's encouraging it, and you know, Roger says he's in torture, referee is a lot, and he's always, you know, tortured DFA, and he was talking about that when he criticized the ref, but maybe if you're just being told that's fair game, you can do, and it's Roger's encouraging, and I think it was hard where he said that's a good way to defend, he's stopping players in the box, getting the clean headers, and he shot David James down I don't think it was saying it's terrible, and they're starting to be horrible, I mean... I agree with you Andy, in terms of the premise, the problem is though the type of grappling he's doing is not stopping them getting headers in the box, he, if we just go back to the city goal and company, right, he spent so much time trying to pull into Jersey, instead of actually trying to put the player off the actual header, that all company had was put his hand across the chest, which you can pull the jersey all you want, he actually got leverage off of Skirtle's chest to push him away to actually make the header, that's basic schoolboy defending that you learn, when you learn to grapple with players in terms of how to get them, you don't let them get their arm across the chest because they can shove you away, you know, what annoys me about Skirtle, I do agree with the point that if Terry has done this, and kind of you probably, you've seen it as a Chelsea fan, Terry's a great man for no-gen players and pulling jerseys and stuff like that in the box, and I'd even say a poor sort of version of that was Ivanovich did a very Skirtle-like movement on Suarez for the opening goal, yes, he spent his whole time trying to grab Suarez's jersey, and by the time, although he got into Suarez he couldn't get a go clearance on it, and the drops to Skirtle and Skirtle was able to put the ball into the net, so I think the premise is right, I think yes, I'm sure Roger's Italian doesn't get hold of something, just don't get caught down in the box, but I don't think Skirtle is a great exponent of the art, and that's the big issue for me. Yeah, not. Connor, from a Chelsea perspective, for you watching that defending by Liverpool, and thinking there's definitely a spot kicking this coming up for us. But to be honest, while looking at it, I think the real weakness in that Liverpool defense yesterday was, for me, was Glenn Johnson, because I think that Glenn Johnson is very good going forward, and he does contribute a lot in the opposition half, but I think he fights too often, he's caught out in behind with a winger, for instance, Hazard coming in behind and him being out of position. I think that Glenn Johnson has been in the Liverpool side now three or four years, I think it is, and I've never been impressed with him defensively. I think he gets caught out too easy by an inverted winger who comes inside, he doesn't want to do, he neglects his defensive duties off and off, and I think looking at it yesterday, I thought he was the real weakness, and he was the area I thought Chelsea could have been exploited, and he was both just in, he was a couple of ends, like how do you say in the pitch when you're hungry, you might have been sent off, so I think he was the real weakness for me. Yeah, absolutely, I'm bloody you'd, some thought in Glenn Johnson there, had you? Glenn Johnson, yesterday, a lot of the time, there was one thing I said that the field last night, when he was pressing, I knew the wide men, there was constantly a runner in behind them, and I think it was, it was our willy, and I wanted a lot of luck on the make that run, and what was happening was scared was being dragged out, because the midfield weren't actually picking it up, Johnson was terrible on the ball, I see defensive, I don't think he was that bad, I don't know. Apart from the fact that he can't attack and doesn't stop across, you mean? Yeah, but he did, not a whole poll coming down his suit yesterday, I don't know if I played that, I think there was a height of these heat mapping, so I showed you not the tackles we made yesterday, we made known, we made known in the middle of the pack, no tackles we made, so I actually saw that one, yeah, and most of the tackles I've re-fall I left for, so I don't think defensive Johnson was that bad yesterday, I just think generally on the bottom he wasn't great, which is a strength, which is a strength, and I couldn't think about the caller, but we got the caller, and he was the heat map. Him and Flanagan and Paul are upset at the moment, well Flanagan, when he was before he got his injury, Flanagan's a young kid fighting for his life to get in, he wasn't for quality, he's fighting for his life, he's fighting for his life, he's fighting to get in to establish himself as a Liverpool player, where Johnson started, looks like he's seen his career out. Yeah, he has been outstanding, hasn't he, since he came in and filed, James owns your thoughts on Glenn Johnson and how he's progressing or regressing? Yeah, it's, you know, when he is good, he's very good, but when was the last time he was consistently good, I mean he had a terrible dip off in form and he ran off for very last year and he's had isolated good games since then, but a lot of the time he's just looked like he's got the wrong boots on, I mean I remember saying on another podcast last, like the end of last season, you know, setting off the season, he played like he was coming down with CJD, I mean, I mean, all sort of, all wise cracks aside, I mean, looking out at the city, what was going, he was just completely flat-footed, he could have equalised for us and he was completely flat. Look, another fucking thing with Johnson, I'm sorry, I'm getting eliminated. Go on, I'm the guy's biggest fan, right, but how many times have we conceded goals because, and this happens with four-backs, if you've got a responsibility to get beyond the ball and help the attack, there will be times where it breaks down and you get counted on, Johnson jogs back, right, jogs back, man, who's, you know, all right, I'm running slightly late here, I'd better pay lip service to myself of making sure I kind of do get there on time, breaks into a half-assed job, that's how he goes back, you should be sprinting back, first minute or 90th, you know, you're a Premier League footballer, and he sprints, you know, jogs back, it didn't help in the build, it's in a great old's goal against city, we conceded a goal against Knox County in the cup, the equaliser at the start of the season, Podolsky scored the start of last season for Arsenal because Johnson was caught ahead of the ball, fine, I don't mind him being there, but try a fucking leg to get back. James, I said the same thing to your mate after the city game, the goal where the break and your look up and you see Johnson, and he doesn't even bother to jog, man, he walks, it was like looking, we gave out about a few weeks ago around, and it was just, it's a fucking joke, like, it's unbelievable, it's piss poor, it's like, oh my god, I have a woman's voice at this rate if I keep going on. Alright, let's move it away from Glen a bit because he's getting a serious bin in here, and have a look at the substitutions, and this is something I wanted to talk about because it's after turning into a little bit of a separate issue, we had Moses and Aspac coming on against City, we had the Brad Smith substitution yesterday against Chelsea, some people suggesting there were sort of different aspects to the decision making there, yesterday, especially in the substitutions, my overall taken, and the only thing I want to say is, Christ, it's lamentable, isn't it, when you look at what we have to bring on, after all the talk about progress and development and all the rest of it, when you look at the squad and when you look at the bench and you're trying to affect the game where you're two one down, in both situations, and you bring on Moses, and you bring on Aspac, are you reduced to bringing on a kid who's making his debut? Andy, can I just add, you must have been absolutely doing your not when you saw Aspac coming on there a couple of times, I know he's one of your favourites, but in relation to the overall substitution, the point I was trying to make a bit squad-depth, it's lamentable, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, okay, we had to bring off a forward, like, you know, Aspac was the only option there to be, so as much as this boy is the player, you know, it kind of had to be done, it's the other substitutions that I suppose had here scratching ahead, like Smith coming on, I actually don't remember a young player coming on for Liverpool, they kind of doing as bad, you know, I think he'd have built four touches or something for the ball. I think it's harsh on that as well, because he came on out of position, and such a big game, and we're expecting so much, and the guys are full back, it's easier if you come on in that position as playing in your natural position. No, I don't necessarily come having to go out to fill it, it's just he's not ready, you know, and Alberto's probably the better option there. I agree, absolutely. Well, you don't think he actually looked mentally ready. I'd say he went to that game, yes, expecting to sit on the bench and expecting the just to get involved with the squad. I don't think he ever expected to come on in that game, and you could see the camera panning to him, and he went like a ghost, he was literally his whole face, just like the blood ramp has faced nearly, and when he come on, he looked like he carried out onto the podium as well. Like Roger's going to be in thinking a young player here, he'd go on and he'd give it loads, you know, because yeah, and I think a big question mark, and I know it's being shown about a bit is, has Roger's got faith in these players that have been sewing, because I don't know, like, you probably read it as well, but we all know we talk about the much wanted transfer committee that we have, and it's only according to potentially, Roger's is trying to get more apparel in the actual transfer committee, and may be playing younger players ahead of some of the signs that are made to start to say, look, I need more control over the signs, because the players that you bought me aren't good enough to go in at this level. My pet peeve that I have around the actual sign is, again, remains that, as Andy said, Alberto didn't get a look in, we've seen Alberto in many matches, he's composed, he's well capable of playing, I don't, I don't buy this that he's not capable of ready to play in the premiership, he's more ready to play than a kid like Brad Smith coming on and making his debut, and there's talk of roster maybe being getting the goal against whole city, and I don't know. We had it, we're looking at the midfield in general, respectable against city, overwhelmed at the time yesterday, Alan and Henderson apparently, well, obviously carrying injuries at various stages in the match yesterday, so an awful lot of pressure on Lucas again. Floody, I know you've very strong opinions on Lucas and his contribution as things are, where are you on this at the moment? I think everyone knows I'm a massive critical Lucas, he has grown on me in the last couple of years, and apparently he seems like a decent lad, you know, to have a round of squad, but Lucas is fine in games when we're on the front floor, teams that we're expected to be, are teams that probably lower half the time level, we can get at them when we're in there half the whole time, he's fine then he can step open, work home to work, it's games like yesterday when we're playing top teams, against the licks of Irish and against the Chelsea, real top quality teams that keep the ball, Lucas has this awful habit of dropping deep, and if you watch the fourth goal yesterday, it's weighted actually three or four passages apply, those think 20 yards between him and Alan and Henderson, now Alan and Henderson had three men between them, and Oscar then, he plays the ball and moves towards Lucas, now Lucas follows the ball and he doesn't bother following the run, and he ends up with the ball, it's Oscar, now he's had a defensive player, now that happened two or three times in the game, the other one that I was able to get a couple of pictures of, it was William, yeah he was inside, and he made the run, and he made the run to the channel, and Lucas was in track it again, and what he does is he backpedals into sound a half, and scared, and shifts out, it's a very full, that shouldn't be happening, they give the offensive midfielder, you track the runners, and at least step up with your man, Alan and Henderson, they walked their socks off yesterday, they pressed like fork, and they were pressing, they were pressing, there was two pressing on three, and Lucas wasn't pressing, and that's how Chelsea looked like they had an extra moment in midfield, if you look at it there yesterday, Davalo is, isn't a natural defensive midfielder player, but if you watched him how aggressive he was, he was constantly nipping up players, he looked like he was dealing with, all Lucas did was go from left to right, and he didn't want the track runners, and at that time when they broke for the fourth goal, Oscar made the run, Lucas stared and he ball watched, with seven players around three of them, how did he come up with possession, if Lucas tracks Oscar's run, all William has there, is the possibility to play it by plays facing. It was a bit critical to Joe, I don't know, on the fourth goal, because I thought he let the man run, but it was when you showed me afterwards saying, well, actually if Lucas comes across, a good defensive midfielder comes across, and just cuts out that pass, because he can't get to the actual pass, and that's what you have a defensive midfielder, if you've got the one and the two as Brendan Carter, that one there needs to be able to shorten the cross and cut passes out and cut options out at the time that's going on, it's an interesting one, that again, you look at the city goal, and was the second goal on the counter attack, Lucas is nowhere to be seen on the counter attack, and we're so susceptible to that, the question that was raised should we be in a fair advance, at one all in a city away game, which is a good point, right, and you've got to wonder, like, as your defensive made, you can see what's going on, you have to be aware, and you can't get soaked to the ball, as he said, he's ball watching, he gets soaked to the ball, and then he drops off, because he's not quite sure where he should be at the moment. I think he could actually play a very effective, snappy sort of midfielder, alongside a good defensive midfielder, I don't think he's a great defensive midfielder at all. Just be a bit more of a ball tracer, yeah, maybe, maybe, yeah, I think in that, I think it can be harder, you know what I mean, but I just do that well, though, do you think he's got the mobility to actually do that effectively, rather than just get past round and taken out of the game, I mean, I know if that's not just a risk of you playing with another defensive midfielder, but then equally, that defensive midfielder's got to be some player to actually provide a bit of incisiveness with the past, then, if you're putting him with Lucas, because Lucas isn't, you know, particularly, sort of, he's not noted for his vision, or, you know, the point he was passing, or something, you know, something like that. I'll go back to the very forced game of the season when we played against Stoke, and I touched, or I played as our deepest midfielder on the day, and Stoke didn't give us much right, but Lucas was playing ahead of him, and playing as that aggressive sort of front-footed centre-made, and he was getting on the ball, and he was playing passes. I think Lucas's passing ability can be underrated at times. Lucas is going on the ball, I think, and at the times he was, he has played for the forward, for Liverpool, I got for the forward. He played some noise bands, and, you know, I think we don't credit enough for that. It's just so happens that most of the full ball for Liverpool has been sitting very deep, but he lacks a aggression, a hard hole in the field, had no aggression, yesterday, and, like, I heard a lot of people giving out about Mourinho, like, oh, he's more the fella, like, when in our car, he, he knew what the crack was there yesterday. Just go out there and batter that midfield, because they're not, they're not an aggressive midfield. They want to play full ball, so just go out there and kick the show out of him, and then he just closed it out in the second half, and when we tried to play full ball, they, he knows that they have enough at the back, and, you know, on screen, and the back, to stop us from scoring. So, like, it was a brilliant managerial performance by Mourinho, and it, our midfield, three of us, he just didn't sue Henderson, and Alan, we're carrying injuries going into the game and needed injections to play. We know Lucas isn't the most mobile, and, you know, it's not that hard to kick the shot out of a midfield, like, that, if they're all walking around at the injured, like, and even coming back to the corner, you can jump in, but, like, even the physical, like, we're talking about this earlier on, like, force three minutes, force a couple of minutes that, that leads to the goal. Henderson gets cracked by, by Etu, in terms of a tackle that goes on, and, and your man, Howard Webb, fucking the con job, pulls the yellow card out, like, but, you know, you know, well, he was booked. Wasn't he booked in front? Like, do you remember that at the end when Lucas gets tackled by Oscar, and he gets open, he kind of gives him, you know, he kind of attacks him back. Liverpool should have been going to down that, from the, from the very early stages, because, so, you know, when that tackle went in, and there was no real response from the players, like, and that's all he was saying, they missed Jared, Jared would have been straight over there, starting to do, you know, and, you know, we just wouldn't, you just, they just wouldn't have got battered like that, you know, Jared was playing. We've been in receipt of some interesting decisions, say, at least, from Messers Webb, Messers Webb and Mason, a fatherly challenge individuals as Philip is trying to point out here, would you think, James, that we've been hard done by, and is it any kind of a thing to be saying at this stage, is it just our grabs are mauling or what's your thought on it? In the last two games, I don't know whether it really impacted the results, but it impacted the run of the games. We have been hard done by, I mean, we were recipients of, well, you know, there's bad enough cycles you will see against City, and I mean, the thing with that is, I mean, we actually went on and scored the goal that was denied us not long after anyway, so that possibly made little, if any difference, it's not really the point, it's just a piss porter, says no, no, no, I know they happen, but it's not a marginal one, you know, anybody's got a right to agree, if you feel aggrieved when they're on the end of a decision like that, and that's for Webb yesterday, that's even worse because that is sustained. Look, I've no issue with Chelsea going out and thinking, right, let's rough these up, right, because when it comes to football, you know, my favorite type of football is a cynical Machiavellian South American who will kick anything that moves, right. I was, I was the biggest Masquerano fan going and, you know, just, his nastiness is one of the things I like best about him, but, you know, you push the rules as far as you're allowed, Chelsea shouldn't have been allowed to push it as far as there were yesterday, you know, again, Atto could have gone off for a challenge inside what, a minute, yesterday, you know, it just caused me a bit when, you know, the, the press actually fall for Mourinho coming out and saying, oh, Suarez, no, he didn't, that, that was, it was a clear penalty, what, you know, what, Atto didn't, he was incredibly lucky to get away with it, and it just fucking calls me when, you know, the press will talk about that, oh, Mourinho said Suarez died, you know, think for yourselves guys, right, you know, I actually look at it and assess whether you think that is the case, or do you think, you know, Mourinho might just be trying to deflect from the fact that, you know, Chelsea took a very physical approach and actually got away with it because just Webb, time and again, let him away with it, and, you know, Webb, I thought not for the first time, not for the second fourth or fifth time referee Liverpool was pissed for yesterday. Yeah, well to be honest, like in fairness, would you not think, though, especially in the first half, that even without that physical approach, like Chelsea were well on top in terms of the quality, you know. No, no, no, I fully agree, yeah, as I said at the start, I don't think, you know, I don't necessarily think it actually affected the results, but it doesn't make it right, you know, and again, I've, I've no issue with Chelsea particularly, so I've no real issue with Chelsea taking that approach, if we did it in work for us it'd be quite happy with it, but I would, I would think we'd got away with it, you know, with the referee, if, if the roles were reversed. I fully agree, like, I fully agree, Howard Webb is like, I heard about a shocker yesterday. Connor, just, just, just cutting in, right. I remember sitting in, in, in the cup, and I think it was season before last watching Liverpool against Stoke, and Howard Webb was refing the game, and again, he allowed, he allowed basically the Stoke players be as physical as they fucking wanted to be on the day, and they, they got away with blue and water, and my issue is, is, is, is, how, Howard Webb is an incompetent referee, and I'm not saying it's, it's a Liverpool Boyus or anything, I just think the chap's incompetent. We go back to the World Cup final, and the young basically Kraddy kicks Alonso into chess, right, and he, nothing is given, he remember he gave the three yellow cards and one more cup as well, and he still raises a referee, hell, the chap, he, he, he reminds me so much of Green Poll, he would hit him, your man, I can't remember, the fellow winners hit with the hair, he was suspended as a referee for a bit, they all, they, they all enjoy, they all enjoy the hair, they fell over the hair, I'm just annoying, and Lee Mason, for fuck's sake, he can make a decision as well, that Sterling was like five yards inside the player when the bar was played, right, the referee is looking at it, and bold occasions to referee is looking at it, and it's, it's, it's criminal, these chap, these fellows are professional referees, professional referees, and they do not have to come out and answer any criticism in the paper, the managers, Rogers comes out and criticizes Lee Mason, but he might be talking about Howard Webb, he should have, he would have to say, he's not scared now, he dropped the ball there talking about Mason the way he did, and he's got a, he's got a rap for him, and you know, he knows he's going to let the trouble over that, but just as a matter of interest, Wayne was Webb appointed referee for that fixture, I think the, the point of ten days beforehand or something, isn't it, right, okay, because it would have been, it would have been a really get up from the FA to a point where for that fixture after, because these, these refs are supposed to be giving big games on merit and that performance, and that, how was, how was Webb, right, it's all Hawaii, I mean, to be honest, I think it's, I think it's a whole fact that they, they talk him as, oh, England, he's, because he's referee to World Cup Final, it's, oh, he's England's best referee, and it's kind of, I think everyone just, the media just kind of makes a general assumption that he is England's top referee, when he's blatant, he not, but if you look at it, there's, the standard officiating in a parameter that he gives, is really poor, like there's, Kevin Friend, isn't the one that comes to mind, he's a poor, poor referee, and these referees in games, they tend to, I don't know what it is, but they tend to pick one side, and as the game goes on, it seems that they're just in favour of this side, the whole match, I don't know what it is, yeah, I actually felt that where, I think it's, there's plenty of the poor referees, you know, yeah, referee's, referee's ref context instead of ref in a match, they just, what annoys me is, so many of them enjoy the lot, seem to enjoy the limelight and like to have the, a game focused around them, instead of being, referee should be invisible to the game, we shouldn't know what referee's names are, that's the fucking annoying thing, in reality, I don't want to know who's ref in the match, all I want them to do is be an automaton, because Carl Tings the right way, without context, but just on the laws of the game, and that's what I want to do, they do try and control the game more than they, they should be in their reme, and what I, what I couldn't get him, get about this decision not to give, that penalty was, he's so close to the incident, and then he's looking and pointing, what could he be hard to be pointing and saying, what's he saying, like, it's, it's, it's clear as day, Edel takes out Suarez, right, after ball, it's clear as day, now, if, if you're pointing, that's, wait a second, stop diving, stop, when, when your man hits you, can't be a boy of you, but he being booked, that's, that's, that's the thing, what the fuck's he saying, anyway, yeah, I don't know, I don't know what he's saying, but um, it's, it's as bad as a decision, and I'm not just boy, it's going to the Liverpool fan, and it would have totally changed the result, that was, that was as bad as a decision, I've seen, you know, you know, it was tremendously depressing, can we thank Connor for his contribution, they really, really enjoyed having you and your opinions, they would have today, Connor, thanks a million for that mate, don't worry boys, thanks Connor, enjoy it very much, thank you man, now, we were really fortunate to get a chance to speak to a recent Liverpool, great, Rob Jones earlier today, here's the interview, interesting stuff, Rob, it's absolutely fantastic to have you with us on the day trippers today, let's just get straight into the questions, your arrival at Liverpool football club, it's nothing short of fairytale stuff, you were essentially plucked from the lower divisions with Dario Grady's crew by Graham Sooners, to play with your own idols, making an incredible debut, shutting out Ryan Giggs and, and man United in the scoreless drama, when you look back at that now, does it feel like almost like a dream, did the suddenness of it, the speed of the transition? You're right, I mean, yeah, I mean, it goes, you know, people still talk about it now, and, you know, and I do, I mean, you know, I don't think it really happens now, does it? I mean, at the time then, I was playing, you know, fourth division football, you know, Graham Sooners came to watch me, I think, on the Wednesday night, when we were playing at Gresty Road, and then I got the phone call on the Thursday night from Dario, you know, saying that, you know, the team that I support, you know, was a big fan of a pool, wanted to, you know, have a chat with me. So, I mean, if that wasn't a dream come true, I mean, when I met Graham Sooners, when I met him on the Friday, you know, he mentioned to me in the car that, did I fancy playing against Manchester United, on the Sunday, live on Telly, I'm marking Ryan Giggs, I mean, you're right, it felt a dream at the time, and if you look back now, you do, you laugh, but, you know, I just remember thinking, you know, yeah, you know, you asked me, would I be able to cope? I said, yeah, you know, of course I would be able to cope, even though, you know, I knew I was going to be very nervous, and I think on the day, just go out there and just thought to me, self, you know, this is your one chance, you've always wanted to play for Liverpool, you dream to play for Liverpool, you know, you mess this up, you know, if you're going to, I always felt like I started getting worried and nervous about thinking about things that, you know, I messed it up, so I just went out there and played my game, and I think lucky enough, I got a few early touches, you know, early doors, and, you know, and had a good game, and it just sort of went off from there, then. Well, I mean, I don't think local acting to do, I think everyone was so impressed with the, with the, with the, the suddenness which you talked to, to the level of football, I mean, Stephen Manleman, there's a reference in your book, Rob, where he says that you would have been in English number one, had it not been for injuries, he also had you in his all-time 11, alongside Zidan, and everyone like that in 4-4-2, and the thing that I saw. When we're discussing our all-time 11s, Rob, you featured in the discussion quite a lot, and there's an awful lot of this, but for the injuries and all that kind of thing, does that annoy you? You know, when you look back and you had made over 240 appearances over a decade at Liverpool, I mean, for the first five seasons or so, you were pretty much ever present, I mean, does the injury thing sort of annoy you? I know what you're saying, yeah, you know, I just say every interview that I do, I think the injury's always brought up, but again, I suppose it was a big part, you know, of my career, I mean, every time, you know, say, you know, when I came in for to the both sides, you know, I was playing well, and, you know, and played for England, but then I got the Shinspletz, the Shinspletz was a big thing then, I think, because I missed the European Championships, that summer it was making the papers quite a lot, so I think that, you know, all the injuries that I had, there were never little, you know, hamstrings or calf injuries, there were simply big, you know, big injuries, but, you know, yeah, I mean, it's always, you know, what if, I mean, with England career, you know, I know I got eight caps, you know, I was, you know, always great to represent the country, and yeah, I would have loved to have got more, but it just wasn't the case, and, you know, I look at the other positives, I look back at McRage, I think, as you just said, you know, 240 appearances, you know, you know, FA Cup win is medal, which, you know, a lot of players can play, you know, there are maybe 500 appearances and not, you know, you know, an FA Cup medal or, you know, any type of medal, so yeah, you know, injuries always brought up, I understand people talking about them, because, you know, it was a big part, and obviously ended my career at 27 years of age, which again, which is a young guys to finish your career, isn't it? Absolutely, but even in the early part where you were flying, and your form was quite imperious, and I know, you know, a lot of us remember that period very finally, in your own form, particularly very finally, I mean, just purely on form alone, do you think you should possibly have represented your country more in those years? Well, yeah, as you say, you'd have hoped so, but the injury every time seemed to, you know, get into the European Championship side, I mean, the Televenables was looking at taking me in '96, I broke my vertebra, you know, I had struggled for probably six to six or seven months with it, you know, carrying on playing with it, we never sucked it out, and then just as, you know, I was supposed to go with the squad, you know, that happened, so, you know, you know, obviously I had a card for a few more, but as you say, you know, it wasn't to be, and, you know, that's why the injuries, you know, did play, you know, quite a big part in my career. Sure, well, a lot of us would think of you as the best signing of that soon as era. As fans from the outside, it seemed to start off quite well, as you said, there was a very enjoyable cup win in '92, but there was that just, it went into a bit of a spiral, it finished up with Graham's resignation. Could you tell us in that last season, what was it like in the dressing room? I mean, and then when Roy Evans was appointed, was it, did it feel like it did for us fans, like there was a kind of a cloud lifting or, was that just, you know, I think everyone always tries to, you know, look at something that was maybe going on in the dressing room and why the results were going to. I just think with a big transitional period when Graham took over, and he probably say himself, like, and I was saying in my book that, you know, when he did come in, you know, possibly, you know, you know, the John Barnes is in the end, washes, you know, he could have got them, Cleumsory's wing and got them to help him, but he just sort of went the other way, and I mean, you know, say he brought Mark Reitley, but a great centre after, an England centre up and give him the captain's seat, and I think it was a few little things going on, you know, there, you know, but, you know, it wasn't Mark Reit's fault, but to be honest with you, I, you know, sort of just joined the team, I was a young lad, and I sort of kept out of it all, you know, I just, I played my football, but then, you know, Roy took over, obviously, Graham Wentz and Roy took over, and then Roy was then, the young lads were sort of maturing, and we're, you know, the Jamie Redbabs, Steve at Manormans and Robbie Fowler, myself, we're all coming through, and Roy just strengthened it, strengthened the team, and in a few different areas, and, you know, we played some great football with Roy, I think we were, you know, we were close, at some stage, to one of the closest we've probably been to the Premier League, then, it just seemed to be that Manchester United just seemed to be, you know, then just a lot more consistent than we were. Well, it's, you mentioned some really stellar names there, guys, that you would have played with, like Robbie Fowler, like Steve McManaman, you would have seen the emergence of Michael Owen, Jamie Carragher, Stevie, and all those kind of guys, and how good was it to be part of that team? As you say, our team that came and certainly flirted with taking the Premier League title, how exciting was it to be part of that bunch, and who was it in that group that impressed you the most? Yeah, I think, as you say, it was a very exciting time, you know, you just mentioned a couple of them, as you say, they're like Steve Manormans and Robbie Fowler, you know, and also, you know, John Bond, Ian Roche, I mean, they were just, you know, sort of coming to the end of the Liverpool days, but, you know, Rushy was still starting to score in, you know, great goals and travelling out, rushing fire, play with Rushy and Fowler up front, I mean, when you say, you know, I've got this question before, you know, who would you pick is the best play you've played with, but, you know, I've played with that many good players, you know, like, you know, I've mentioned it there, the Fowler's, Rush, Bond, Manormans, you know, even the Ronnie Whelen and Steve Nichols, I mean, there's been some, you know, great players I've had the privilege to play with. I always sort of say though, Steve, but Manorman, I mean, and I know he put me in the, is best 11 with Dan and all that, so I've got to do my favourite round size, be it a friend, but no, Steve Manorman, you know, when I used to play right back there and he was playing right in the field and we used to bum up and down the right hand side, I mean, they were probably the best two years, I had played and was playing with him up and down there consistently before I moved to the left-back role. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's out of a partnership right there. Yeah, it would be remiss of me if I didn't ask you, I'm sure you've been asked about this, almost as much as you have with the injuries, but those games against Newcastle, you know, those kinds of seminal matches that people remember, what was it like to be part of those, was there is modulation in the dressing room after those wins, as there was amongst the fans, or was it just, well, it's an early gamer. Exactly, I mean, being a fan as well, I mean, you just, you know, you want to remember what was going back to us, then, you know, if we're in a game, in the last minute is, you know, and, you know, both of those games, the score room was going back and forth, I think, constantly, and, you know, you know, in the dressing rooms, in the dressing at the end, yeah, it was just like probably anybody else was, you know, celebrating and having, and you can imagine what it was like in the Newcastle dressing room, it would have been completely the opposite, wasn't it? So, you know, we were just happy with the three points and, you know, scoring the last minute is unbelievable, isn't it? Both of them were great games. Sure, I, with that group, with that team, you mentioned yourself the closeness that there was to maybe league success. Did you guys feel it at the time? Did you feel like there was a league title in you? I know you said it coincided with the focus in the year, and, you know, suddenly emerging as a force, but how much did that hurt as a proper red, wearing the jersey as well at the time? Yeah, I mean, it does hurt that, as you say, you know, Manchester United seem to turn the corner in the 90s, and, you know, they had David Beckham's who come in through the Neville's, Skoles, isn't that? But, you know, we had, you know, as you said earlier, you know, a man who was in the fouls, and Jamie Redknack, and plays like coming through. So, I don't think we were far off, you know, and at times we played some really good football. I mean, when we meet up, you know, see the next players now and then, you know, we talk, you know, with Wayne Evans about the time that he was there, and, you know, sometimes you see on LFC TV, we played some great football. It was good attacking football, and they just think, we just didn't have that little bit of luck, and Manchester United had to say we were just, they were strong, they were, you know, they were a good team, you know, Alex Ferguson, a lot of them, and they just seemed to be more consistent. I think they were looking a lot back, they were just a lot more consistent than us. When we did get up there, we were second in the league at some stage, and we had a run of, you know, losing a few games, and I don't know what it was, I don't know if it was an experience, some of us, or what, but, you know, we just weren't good enough, I suppose you're going to say that, win the Premier League, because, you know, I always say the best team to win the Premier League, really, don't make sense. Sure, sure. Maybe just came up that little bit short somewhere, but, yeah, it's just there were so many good players, it was probably as hard for you guys to take, but certainly for the fans looking at all those wonderful players, it was hard to understand. By the end of your book, Rob, you talk about losing your love of the game, you know, when it finally comes to the engine, you know, really interesting football. We spoke to Noel Byrne in our first ever show, he spoke about the same kind of feeling. Do you think this is due to the fact that, you know, your career is being cut short by injury, or is it something that maybe most pros feel naturally, you know, just true, have been involved for so long as they wind down? Yeah, I think everyone, I must, you know, would take it different. I just, I just felt, I don't know if it was because I finished a World League. I just couldn't go and watch Liverpool. I didn't really watch football on Kelly. I think it was just my way of coping of finishing maybe, you know, you know, I just felt that I went back to Liverpool, you know, I could still be there and say, 20 years of age, you still be thinking, you know, I should be there, you know, or should at least be playing football. So I did, I just lost a lot for the games, just for, I don't know how long, it's hard to say, but then, you know, it does, you know, it come back and, you know, you know, everyone there, you know, was a Liverpool fan beforehand and I'm a Liverpool fan now and, you know, you know, I've definitely got the buzz back now and, you know, it's good to be back at Liverpool and doing a little bit now and I mean, Brendan's asked me to come back. So I've got that, you know, the buzz of a fan, but, you know, sort of back in the club as well. So it's a good feeling at the moment. Well, that's, that's something that's really, really interesting. Those guys here watching you being part of the club again, again, at the end of your book, you talk about how you regain your love through your son, Declan's interest is in the academy, you know, as you are. And how's it feel to see your son carry on that, that kind of John's legacy? How do you shield them then maybe from pressures of having yourself such a, such a prominent ex red as father? Yeah, I mean, it's great to actually have a, you know, some, you know, playful bullet. I mean, it sets me forward to the matter to be playful with a pool or one. And, you know, he has no pressure on him at all. And, you know, he goes to the academy. It's a great academy there. He's 12 years of age. And I, I just say, just, you know, go out there and enjoy yourself. You know, there's no pressure on them at all. And I don't put any pressure on him, you know, and that's just the way to be. I mean, you know, you know, I don't want him. I think if he felt it was pressured after I let me grandad play for Liverpool, but I didn't feel any pressure that I had to. I think it just comes naturally. And I've said to him, you know, if you work hard and if you, if you're good enough, you know, you'll make it as a footballer, you know, carry on with your skill work and take it from there really. I mean, that's all I sort of say to him. But, you know, it's, it's been good for me. The other side, I just say, you know, back at the academy and trying to help see, I say, I said, the young ones, you know, the under 21s, really. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it's, it's, it's great for us. When the story broke, that yourself and Robbie and Mako were getting back involved in the part-time capacity, it was, it was such interest over here. I mean, what exactly is your role? I know it, it was reported at the time that it's, it's a part-time role and, and focused, and I suppose, in your specialist area of defense. How much time is that taken open? Would you think perhaps, I know you're a busy man and you've business away from football, would you consider maybe getting involved full-time and coaching side of the academy in the future? Yeah. Well, that's why it suited me. I mean, Brendan called me, I think we were April or this year and just, you know, mentioned what had come up and meeting with him. I went in there and he said to me, he said, you know, all the clubs that he's been around, there's always ex-players around and he says, I've, you know, I've come to Liverpool and, you know, there's none of the, you know, the history of the club, there's none of the ex-players, you know, around, you know, he's got Mike Marsh, but he wanted to get more around the club. So, he just mentioned to me and said, would I be interested in coming, you know, getting involved with the younger lads at the academy and, you know, sort of mentored them in a way. And, you know, he said, you know, I don't worry about coaching. I mean, he said to me, rather throw a bag of balls, like, you know, start taking the coaches. He said, I've got, I've got great coaches there, you know, in Alex Ingle for, and he's got Neil Crichley there, doing the under 18. So, all I do, the same as Steven Robbie, is, you know, we'll go in when we can kind of all got, you know, work commitments outside of that. And, you know, go in, I think Alex will take the train and just help them with the defending, you know, if they're doing something right, praise, must have been doing something wrong, you know, try and put it right for them. And, actually, it's just a mentoring role. And it's worked well. I mean, I've enjoyed it. And I know that the lads, you know, have enjoyed it as well. You know, you got this for the center forward there. You've got Robbie Fowler coming and, you know, showing you how to score goals. I mean, I've got the car being much more better than that. And, you know, Matt has enjoyed it as well. I mean, last month, me and Steve went with the under 21s over to Holland. And they played PSVI in over, and we went over there, they over and stayed the night and got to the lads a bit better. And it was a good experience. It was a good experience. I enjoyed it. And, you know, I'm sure the lads did as well. Sorry, Rob, is there much crossover there in the time that yourself and Robbie and Steve are there together? You mentioned the trip there with the 2D on it. Do you guys coming together or do you tend to do maybe urine on Tuesdays looking at the defenders and Robbie's? Is that the way it breaks down or? Yeah, well, we do cross out with we've been in a couple of times and we've joined in the Fiverr side because I think Robbie still wants to be a footballer. So he's in there and, you know, we have that side as well. I mean, you know, I took a team and Steve was a captain of the team and Robbie was a captain of one of the other young lads teams. And, you know, we have a little, you know, Fiverr side competition and sort of play against each other and have a laugh and, you know, get the banter back. So, you know, I know we say we're enjoying it, but we are, you know, we've enjoyed it as well and a lot of laughter in the academy and serious stuff as well. But, you know, I can see the young lads coming up and definitely in between two to four years. There's some good players coming up and, you know, I know that everyone doesn't get to see sort of the young lads coming up, but I think it's going to be exciting the next few years. Absolutely. I think some of us will watch the kids very, very closely indeed. And I think an awful lot of red-seeded depth of talent that we have in the underage sides. They're a full-back, you know, we've got a particular interest in Roy McLachlan over the side. Brad Smith made his debut there against Chelsea Andrei. Wisdom has been really doing well. We've got Flannel coming through as well with tremendous performances recently. Can you maybe take any credit for this, Rob? Do you think? No, I've never taken any credit for it. No, I mean, as you say, I think, you know, as the Alex and Neil that the coach is there, you know, they've got to take all the credit, but what I did say to the lads is, you know, Brendan's asked us three to come in to try and, you know, helping any way to push it up to the first team. You know, I said, if I think if you're at Manchester City or possibly if you were at Chelsea, I don't think you'd get the chance. You know, I don't think I think they're buying at least Brendan is, you know, of course he's going to buy as well and strengthen the squad, but he's always looking at the academy. You know, I think it just showed, like, for example, yesterday, I know he's got a few injuries, but, you know, putting Brad Smith and Jordan Ross, or Jordan Ross in the 16 years of age, you know what I mean? And he's definitely a player for the future or he's showing them, you know, if you work hard and play one of the 21s, you know, I'm not scared to being into the first team. Yeah, absolutely, which is very encouraging for those particular guys in question. You just mentioned Brad Smith there. He made his debut yesterday. Obviously, out of position, it was a real baptism fire for the kid. And obviously, it's naturally going to feel a bit out of his comfort zone there. What was your take on that particular move by Brendan? And how much did people really, you know, take into account who he came on against and the conditions of the match and the fact that he was at a position? Yeah, I mean, the difficult thing is that with Brad, I mean, I always found it as well as coming on, you know, I think if you start again, you know, everybody's sort of on the, you know, the same, like, length, aren't, you know, and, you know, when you're coming on with 30 minutes to go and, you know, you're playing against world-class players. I just thought it was, you know, I knew it'd be difficult for him, but the thing is with Brad is that he's very, very fast. And, you know, I was watching that. I mean, he didn't get that many touches in the ball, but he worked hard back and forward. And, you know, he got a great touch to give it to Luis Suarez. And then I think it was Kay Hill coming and snapped him in half with me from behind, you know. But, yeah, I just think it was a good experience for him. And, as I said, it's showing the other lives of the Academy that Brendan will give you a chance, you know. So, you know, Ryan McLachan did quite well as well in preseason, particularly there. He got a couple of runs. What's your opinion of him as a prospect? Yeah, Ryan's brilliant as well. I mean, you know, as I said, there's a lot of young lads coming up with the likes, like, you know, also do mention the same names. But I think it's obviously the fallback situation. But Ryan is definitely, you know, he's great at going forward, but also can defend a great engine on him and pass the ball. So, he's kind of everything. And, you know, a matter of time, really, I think, before, you know, he gets a step up as well. But there is quite a, it's going to be difficult for them because, as you said, there's a few fallbacks. Now, you know, young ones, as you mentioned, like, you know, wisdom and not Flanagan and Kelly. So, you know, it's going to be a difficult time. But Ryan's definitely going to be within the next, actually, it's hard to say, isn't it? But one to two years, you know, pushing for it in place, I think, definitely. Here's something. You, yourself and your wife are the owners of a very successful nursery business called Kids Academy. It's a franchise, which is extended, I think, as far a field, as you know, and Emirates, if I'm correct, how rewarding has it been to make a success of a second career, essentially, outside of football? And where does that rank in your own list of personal achievements, Rob? Yeah, it is good that, you know, I think when you finish football, it's, you know, a lot of players are probably telling the same thing and what you do. I mean, that's why a lot of players go into coaching or they go into the media side of it. It's just, my wife was always interested in childcare. So, we just got into it through then and then, you know, we just sort of blossomed, woke them in the Cheshire area over in England. And then, they've been Mahouda family over in Abu Dhabi. They wanted the franchise over there. So, you know, it's going really well over there. We've got three open at the moment and we've just blossomed the two properties over in Dubai. So, yeah, that's going really well. So, yeah, it's a different, you know, a different type of business to football, but it's enjoyable. And, you know, we were having a good time without the moment. Excellent. Just to bring it back to football-related stuff to finish up, before questions, we did our own personal favourite, LFC 11s. Who would have been your choice for right back? Maybe we'd stuck to people that we'd seen play. Maybe you could do that as well. Would Steve Finnen come into the reckoning, do you think? Or who would have been your share? Yeah. Steve Finnen, you know, he was a natural right back, wasn't he? He was a great right back natural. Good defender. I mean, he was consistent. I put him sort of with the Gary Neville, but then, if you'd appreciate that. But he was always consistent, wasn't he? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, for plays that I've watched over the years, I mean, Phil Neil for me, and I was going back a bit longer, but Phil was a natural right back and could also, you know, score goals. Yeah, that's penalty. I know it wasn't a Premier League, but, you know, he was, I meant the amount of times he plays a Liverpool, I mean, Phil Neil is the legend of right back, I think is me. Yeah, well, absolutely. It occurs to me at this point, Rob, this may be a bit cheeky, but how did you manage to get through some of your parents, this is what I'm starting on for a little bit? How did that happen? Yeah, I know. I mean, the amount of people that say to me about a pound on me, they want to back now. Yeah, yeah. I think I was like 50 to one, I mean, but I think it was just, I used to get forward that much, and I just, it's just always just, you know, his post, crossbar, goalie making good say, he's just like that. But, you know, I mean, it never really bothered me, I mean, about scoring, I mean, if I could set them up and set a few up for Robbie Fowler's, I was always happy as long as we won and got the three points, but I mean, of course, it would have been nice. It's cold, but, you know, it's just one of them things, though, there's never any luck on it. I've got, got me shooting boots on. Well, as you say, when Robbie's in the team, it takes the pressure off a little bit to, let's say, yes. Listen, Robbie, you've been an absolute chant. It's been fantastic to have you on today. Maybe you might join us for a point the next time you're over in Dublin, we'd be delighted to have a chat. Everyone should get on Rob's book, Rob, as quick as they can, and all the best to you in the new year. Cheers, thanks a lot. Cheers, Rob. Bye-bye. The best way for Liverpool and us to get past the distress of the last two matches is to simply look forward to the next one. Luckily, this festive season affords us the chance to do just that with two games and quick succession. So, let's do our whole and all them previews. We'll start off with something to do with the line up, I suppose. It probably makes the most sense. So, given the injuries and the likelihood of no recruits being ready by match day, what does the Liverpool team look like against Hull and all them? Well, let's start with Hull. Andy, what changes do you see being made, if any? Well, some have to be, obviously. Yeah, it's all the injury-dependent, really, and it won't look quite an awful lot different as we know it rather. It doesn't like the change things too much. So, it's just going to be whoever's victory gets in. There's some harbors that, like, is it 13, 14 established seniors? There's talk of only 50 and 50 senior players. Wow. We don't need them. Well, we don't need them unless it's a guy much. You only need 11 so it's bloody. Thanks for that, mate. So, all right, bloody, with your wonderful mathematics then. What changes are going to happen, if any? I mean, like, is it totally, is it predictable to be Jesus, or? The shape won't change. That'll stay the same. I think we can all agree on that. Oh, you think Jared will be forced back into the sort very quickly, training today. He'll come back in. From start? Yeah. Okay. I reckon he'll come back into the start. I don't think he'll start. Not all the time. I reckon he'll start against hope. So, you reckon he's in instead of Alan, if Alan's corrupt? I think that will be a change. I'd like to see Kelly come in for Johnson. We've done it to death about Johnson, but he does. Kelly needs to come in there. Or even Flanagan to visit that. I don't know how long is he here for us? As long as it's injury. But at least Kelly, or Flanagan, have to come in there. So, it's all going to come back in that level. I've got to shift into the centre half and I'd like to see Toray come in for Scarlett. He's been involved in so many goals that we've considered recently, because it's not just one or two mistakes. He's to a city that he's been involved in. The one yesterday, he was involved in the one West Ham. It's a catalogue of errors now, from him. He does so much good, but listen, Toray is a good player. Let's get him in there. Let's get him in. That's what I'd like to see coming in on it. I'm going to put a bit of context back. I know we were picking up on the disaster of the charity match, but I thought going into it, into the run of four games we had, we taught them card of city and Chelsea. If we came out at about six points, that would have been going on at the outset, and given the run that we had beforehand, I'm not despondent. In real times, I'm not despondent, and I didn't expect us to win a charity. I said it on the part as well. I taught a lot of fans who are way too overconfident going into that Chelsea match, and they forgot about how efficient that Mourinho can be in terms of his team selections and picking weaknesses in other teams, and being, as we pointed out, quite physical. The whole match now becomes a massive, most win for me. We went and we fucked up the last time in only a couple of weeks going whole, we're carrying a lot of injuries. To not get three points in this game is damaging for the morale in terms of what's gone on. We must win this game, regardless of who is out on the pitch on the actual day. I still see a relatively strong 11, if Gerard is fierce, I think we can get around, because I think Steve Bruce comes and does what Steve Bruce always did when he claims to Anfield, and just par a course, and be thankful to take a point, or Nick three points if he can. In much the way he set up when we went to play them in Hall, and we had a bad day that day, I see us actually changing shape slightly because of the midfield situation, because to talk to Henderson may miss out, or may not miss out, may play with injections or whatever. If Henderson misses out and he rushed Gerard back, it means Gerard Lucas midfield, and that for me then becomes a clear 4-2-3-1 in terms of a setup, with Moses coming in and Coutinho possibly moving into the 10 role, a such and sterling play. I'm a bit confused as to how storage before Christmas tweeted that he was almost back to full fitness, and we haven't heard anything since. I'm wondering would he be rushed to be back on the bench to even give us an option off the actual bench, because I think we miss him a bit in terms of in certain teams, especially for his impact of running the lines and creating space for other players to operate in a Bates, Suarez or Coutinho. I think Coutinho really struggles without storage in the actual side. If I was looking at the team, I'd start Tori and Agar. Tori and Agar have the most clean sheets we've kept this year in two. Yeah, if you look back to the start of the season, they were kind of the pattern, and that's the only time we've kept playing sheets, right? Yeah, and again, I wouldn't be, if Flanagan's not finished, I'd say place a solo at left back now, given that Agar pushes in so I'd look, he didn't do anything wrong against City. I thought he was, he was, he was, he was solid, without being spectacular. He gave an outlet all the time. He was, he was grand. I was surprised that he didn't start against Chelsea. I know he, he may have wanted to put Agar in because of the leadership and the idea of the leadership at the back. I didn't think Agar had a spectacularly bad game, but he didn't have a spectacularly good game either at left fall and was cut out of position a couple of times, but he's a center back playing at left fall. But by Jesus, we need to get Johnson out of the team. So if I was looking at it, I'd more or less go with Kelly, Torre, Agar, Sysoko, as the back four. You've got potentially Luka's, Luka's, potentially Luka's in Gerard, and then you're looking at the tree of Coutinho, Moses and Sterling behind Suarez, and how, how, how that turns out, I'm not quite sure. Is it again though, the whole game that we can get Alberto in? Is it one of them games? I'd like to see him, but I don't think he, well, what I'm saying to you is, I would like to see Alberto come into that midfield. Yeah. I'd rather than bring him Moses into the team. Because I think Alberto can do more. Well, I definitely don't think we can go with Luka's and Gerard's so-so-it. There's absolute normability there, and it didn't walk away the whole- Listen, I don't, I'm not disagreeing with the premise, but I think if Henderson is not fit to play, and the only chance we have is a half-fit Steven Gerard and Luka's, then- Roger, this is said today, Henderson should be all right. All right then, all right then, then, then, then. Yeah. If Gerard isn't fit, like, if Gerard isn't a 100% fit, then my personal choice will be Luka's, Alberto and Henderson as a trained sentiment. I think we're all big fans of Alberto. We're like, I don't know what we're based on already, but we're in love with the idea that he's going to be a good player for us. If he doesn't get in now, I think he's being unfairly treated by Roger, to be honest, he hasn't got as many chances as he probably deserves. Yeah, and he will run down players as well. He's not afraid to walk out, you know? Andy, this is going to be an unpopular show, but I was speaking to Phil about this earlier on. I know he's kind of not far off the same page as I am, but look, injuries are going to prevent this from happening, but doesn't Phil continue to look like a man who could do with a little step out as well? I mean, it's almost as if defenders have worked out what he's about, and because he doesn't have pace about his game, he's got nothing to change it up with, and how many times have we seen the cut-in and the little trickle-in shot that goes wide, the forced true ball, and those things aren't working. I mean, clearly demands, and he's got great football intelligence, clearly he's a wonderful footballer, but he's pretty ineffectual of late. Is that fair? Yeah, I mean, if you look at him now on Coron farm, if he had a fit 11, he's not really in it, you know, he's not, and it pains me to say it, but he's not, but he is the type of player who does rely on kind of confidence, and as soon as these things start coming off, I think we'll see, we'll see about her continue again. I don't know, James, you might have an opinion on this, but I do think he misses storage in terms of, I think him and storage have a great understanding. Yeah, he's the type of player. Sorry, James, go ahead. No, no, I think that's possibly one thing, because obviously storage is quick, and you know, he's very much a natural golf scorer, so he makes a golf scorer's run, so he's easy to provide for. I think the other thing is the system doesn't suit him, you know, I don't think playing wide last suits, and I think there's, as well, because of the way that the way I fall back and defend against you that, I mean, what a continue is great strength, I think, is, I mean, people talk about him, he's been relatively strong for a second, I don't particularly agree, what a thing, because I think he's quite tenacious, and he, you know, and he works relatively hard, but I think what he's better at is just kind of shielding the ball and spinning with it. I mean, it was a noticeable thing when we played Everton and field last year, and they were really trying to sort of be quite aggressive with Coutinho in the early stages, and he just spun away from all over the challenges. Now, that's easier done, I think, in the middle, and it is wide, because there's two ways you can go, and it's, you know, your defensive player's got heads, their bets a bit more. I think it suits him much more, and then the other thing is, you know, when he's in possession of the ball and away from pressure, he's got two directions in which he can pass. You know, I don't think that role suits himself well, I mean, I think, really, if we had a stronger squad, Coutinho possibly wouldn't be a starting player in a 4-3-3. And if he was, he might even be in there as the most advanced of a central 3, you know, the most kind of creative and the most kind of tactically 3 with the right central midfielders alongside him, but I think he's more a player for a 4-2-3-1, I think, in, you know, in the sort of orthodox number 10 role. Yeah, absolutely. Look, we need to look at the opposition as well and give them due respect. We've already played whole, and we've seen how that went, and it was a very unedifying experience. Phil, what is it that we need to change, or what do we need to look out for when it comes to Hall in the next match? We just need, and Christ, it's the part where we're suffering with the most injuries in terms of sentiment, but we just, we need to dominate their central 2 who are quite a mobile in terms of Livermore and what's the big lad's name, Huddleston, yeah. We just need to dominate those 2. If we dominate them, you stop whole playing. We made Huddleston look like Yaya Torade last day. We just need to stop them. And the way you stop him is you play around, and he's not going to move around a pitch very quickly, so let him on the ball and give him time and space, and he'll do what he did. And we also need to be really good in terms of defending against the transition, because we were utterly shot at defending on the counter-attack against Hall. Remember, we gave away two scaldy goals. There was the deflection of Skirtland's arse, and then there was his wonderful headed-on goal against Hall that day. Look, we've done Skirtland Johnson to death today, but that too, as a tandem, have been a disaster area. And if we played him against Hall, I'd be scared that they will potentially do something mad again, and we just need a change. Hall, I don't think, holds much stretch. As I said, Steve Bruce, part of the bus, helps to make something. There's nothing more than that. Like, genuinely, I can't even talk about the old game, because I don't know how many players we're going to have feared after the whole game. But Flully seems to have a knack, doesn't he, against Liverpool, Bruce, with the various teams he's been with. Whereas, you see the interview you did after the game last day. I know it changes, as Seth said, before he's got a good time for Bruce, because he's a decent enough kind of a lad. But, I mean, if you see the interview you did after a man, you know, your game, it's like, yeah, what are you going to do, Steve? How do you feel? I'm going to go home, kick the cat and have a nice glass of red wine. And it's like, yeah, well, man, you know, it's what are you going to do about it. But, jesus, he gets up and gets his team up for a little bit. That's because he's the next. You know, you're part of it. That's clearly. In fairness to Bruce, he normally does set his teams up well. As Phil said, he come up and parrot the boss, but they're well drilled and they're well dressed, and what they do, and they make things very, very difficult. I kind of disagree. When we went and played, my hollows could surprise the hell they approached again. They didn't actually just sit and parrot the boss. They aggressively hunted down their midfield three. I think Moiler was in the middle with the two lads, but they pressed those high up the pitch. And what happened then was that sterling and... It's got all his legs. It's got all his legs. And the bar wasn't all up to him. So, by the point of the bar, they did up to him. They had flavor at the back then to smother the trade that was up top. Exactly. And we were following up to play then. So, he does need to have the knack to do on that. Sorry. Yeah, what can I do James? Yeah, come back. Yeah, no, it's going to say, what's interesting about the way Hall set up against us is they kind of, they were thrown by the storage injury. They carried on with the back three and it worked on the day. Because probably, you know, we just didn't have as many good players on the pitch with our storage. But there was a few sky sports where we're at Hall's training grounds, you know, talking to Bruce and talking to the staff there and everything in the branch of that game. And he said, I mean, obviously, presumably this didn't air until after we played them. But I watched this recently and they said, oh, you know, we're going with the three at the back because, you know, Liverpool will probably turn up with Suarez and storage as two strikers. Now, that didn't happen because storage got injured on the Friday before in training. So, in the end, they played a system that kind of wasn't ideal for the way we set up. But obviously, they, you know, we worked on them the day because, I mean, they would, you know, they were very disciplined and, you know, we were that Paul. The other thing that's interesting about Hall, they've got an identical defensive record to us. They both, we both conceded 23 goals. So, you know, that doesn't make them the most obstinate kind of opposition for us now and feel because we're generally quite good at, you know, scoring high number of goals and breaking teams down. But, you know, it does show, I mean, the top half of the moment, so it shouldn't be that much of a surprise. But there, you know, there are good defensively in terms of goals conceded. There's us, just, you know, quite, you know, sort of, thought, really. Yeah, that, that interview you're talking about, James, that was there, it was there at the morning that I came, surprisingly enough. I remember looking at it and they were expecting Liverpool to play two strikers. And, yeah, I think just by, just by pure luck and we talked about it after the whole game here, actually, it just walked out, a charm for them. And the staff is playing, you probably expect to see them deal with again, you know. Maybe. Right, yeah. Again, I know we haven't even touched on all them because, to be honest with you, like, it's the FA Cup match on my feelings on the FA Cup this year as I couldn't give a shot about. The league has to be, given where we are, we're fifth in the league, we're six points off top spot, right? And Champions League is the be-all and end-all. And you can, many olders as you want talk about winning trophies and all but for us to remain as part of the top teams in England, we need to get back into the Champions League. And we need to deal with this year because you're not, we're not going to get a better chance. We're never going to get a better chance than this to get into the Champions League. That's, I was going to come across that and you've, you've pre-entered it perfectly, I feel, the, the, the older game, look, so many things can happen in the game between then and, and, and now, so let's not get too worried about it. But in terms of the general thoughts that we have about it, would we all row in behind that concept that feels after putting forward there that, look, at the end of the day, the league is priority. In fact, the league is all that matters. Connor, sorry, yeah. Sorry, James. Sorry, James. Sorry, James, we're going to go across it earlier. No, no, no, it wasn't a lot more to say yet. Yeah, no, I've had this I feel lots of times about hopes and, you know, I enjoy the days at Wembley and it's, it's a great feeling to win things, but it's probably one season where I will kind of agree with him that we have, we have got a genuine chance of getting back into the Champions League and it's kind of imperative we take it. And maybe with the squad as 10 as it is, like we can see how, how benefit we are of not being in the Europa League and that. So it probably wouldn't be the worst thing to be knocked out of the Cup, but probably not the best thing to get knocked out by all them. Flodie, would you like to see Rossiter and Smith and all these kind of guys make their, make their proper debuts have a really serious game and a really serious goal in the Cup match? Oh, we definitely know you see two or trade and brought into the team and start the day. You don't want to start throwing four over six lads in the deep end. Like we should have enough lads to come in there as it is. Like, no, and this is going to kick me in there. Well, aspects can come in to that game. It's not great. Like we've got a bird to come in to that game. Like we have got, it would be nice to see him get a start and see if he does aspects. Well, give him a full 90 minutes. Now, not knock on all them. We should be beating them. We should be beating them even with a week and so we should be still beating them. And we could actually see from them young lads, as we said earlier on, when planning comes into the team, the effort, the amount of effort that them lads will give effort and that's what all them will come in. That's basically what they'll come with with effort. Wouldn't you match that the football that takes over after that? So, well, we actually would like to see two or three of them maybe come into the solids. Yeah. And they found Berto doesn't play in a match like that. He's not going to play with you. He might as well get the next plan and take it home, you know? Look, again. Laurie, as well. Sorry, James. I keep doing this because signal's not very good. Sorry. Yeah. Laurie's another one because now we've got an injury, a sense of back as well. And you know, you don't really want to mess about risk, you know, both of your sort of what might be first for a center box in the cup game, you know, if one of them are all. So, you know, again, if a lorry's not playing after sort of, you know, six months to acclimatize, the only plausible reason maybe for not doing that is that who knows, you know, maybe we'll want him to not be cup-tied if we want to loan him as an incentive for loaning clubs. But I would really wouldn't be thinking about that kind of thing at the moment. You know, I'd be thinking about, you know, keep other players out of the firing line in terms of getting injured against, you know, sort of lower league teams in cup games because we may not for a long, long time with all the transition this season of the clubs get a better chance of finishing the top four. It's wide open. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we can't really, we can't piss about, so I don't know anyway. Yeah, I agree. Like, despite all the injuries, if you look at the signs that we made between Wednesday and Sunday, like, you can still put out what would be more or less a signed 11. And, like, one thing I didn't touch on when we were doing the Chelsea review, but, like, when he brought Brad Smith on, I was confused as to, well, that's where you'd want Jordan. I have to come on. Because he's got a force-time experience. He played at the end of last season. He scored a goal. He played in preseason. He's got a lot more force-time experience than a kid, like Brad Smith. It looks bloody good. And he looks decent. And he looks at the more physical version of Sterling as well, in terms of when he has played. Not that he potentially would have done any better than Smith that came on, but you would have fancied your chances to say, well, he'd be a bit more physical and a bit more robust to what's going to happen in the primary league and not be as overall to say someone like Brad Smith that's coming on. Like, again, I'd say, whole. And we've got Jordan Oib. We've got Elori there. You've got Martin Kelly, who needs games. You've got, you know, hopefully Scarlett is out, but you can play him in the actual old game. You've got Alberto Aspos. You've got Alberto. You've got Aspos. You've got Gerard potentially coming back from him from injury. It'd be better to see Gerard. If he's not fully fit, starting the bench in Wednesday, that if you need to get him on for the last 40 minutes to change the game, he's there to do it. And then give him 90 against the old. So that he's fit to cover the actual injuries that are going on. You've got Salko there. You've potentially got Flanagan coming back from the injury that he picked up. Like, to me, it's not, there's enough bodies. There's enough players around to cover about matches. It's just a case of making sure that we take these three points against Hall and fuck the old game to be quite honest. Like, it's a bonus if we win it and we get shown to the next round. Yeah, I hope that's the way I say it at this stage. Well, given that it is going to be a lottery, the, it being a cup game and also not knowing what the team is going to look like, let's just focus on Hall for predictions. Flurry, how do you see it going? How do you see it finish? Um, I'd like to think that we, we were comfortable till no winners, but we thought that going down the play hole down there as well. Um, it's obvious going with that old chestnut, the early goal is going to, is going to, the longer Bruce keeps in sleep the whole, the more difficult the game we get. Um, I'm going to be puzzled and said, we're going to win the game, we've got score, I don't know. I'll take a one-wheel enough as fast as there's anyone's eyes at this stage, just to get them three points. Absolutely. James, how do you call it? Uh, I just heard the prospect of dropping points, uh, one-wheel. One-wheel, okay. And Andy. Um, yeah, we can hopefully get back to winning ways there. Um, not too, too dejected over the last two games. They were bonus points in my head anyway, I felt. So if you can just get back to where they were and, you know, there's, there's three, three, all the next four games are at home in the lake. So you just get back, get back winning, and like Hall did be this okay, but there was a bit of a huff and puff performance and a lot of mistakes. If you can just get back to playing the way we were playing there, um, against, even against C and character before that sports, we should be winning that encounter really. So I'm going to say we'll, we'll beat them, probably concede. One, make three, one. I happen to agree with you. I think, uh, the last two games were the kind of, if we got wind, we got points, they're the kind of things that kept us in touch for what is possibly a point drain of being in the, in the title race anyway. Yeah, like if that, if that's a bad run of the season. Exactly. That's not that bad. That's not bad, is it? And it's the first time, uh, Roger's team has been beaten twice and all as well. There's all sorts of interesting stats to take consolation from, uh, Phil, how do you see a finish? I don't have to do my usual prediction, the seven they'll hold, but the, uh, on, on a serious note, um, I think it'll be, if we start touring in Agar, we'll keep it clean, she's, if we start Skirtland Johnson, we'll concede and we could potentially draw points. That's where I see it. Okay. All right. So time once again then for the section, the show on which we're reminded that the high level of crazy that's inherent in this show's makeup is also present and mostly you lovely folk out there. It's your listener's question. So we'll start with a question from Owen. He's at all the red and he asks, when is enough Guinness enough? Uh, James on. I'm T total. I knew that. I knew that. I'm a vegetarian. I'm a vegetarian. That's what you do. Fair enough. A lot of Glen Johnson questions come in, nearby, I swear the real Glen Johnson go, uh, I Craig, I heard painting was a little more blunt. He said, uh, what can we do with Glen apart from electoral shock treatment that started from switching off? And I think there was a lot of other stuff as well. Um, what do we do with Glen? Uh, we've touched and there's a lot, but, uh, Floody, I'll come to you straight away for it. It's, it's to the point down to, you sell them. You sell them, honestly. Yeah. Honestly, he's straight up. It felt like talking about my 100 grand there yesterday for that shawty of us. Um, well, no, I'm, uh, trail Rossider and I suck right back at you. It's absolute. You got 100 grand. Yes, see, that baffles me and baffles me. I think we just, we, we, we leave him out for a few weeks, put Kelly in and see if that gives him to quick up the holiday needs because regardless whether he gets a new contract, signs a new contract or not, he should be, if, if he's playing for a move or whatever he wants to do, he needs to search on a bit of form. Yeah, I told you with feeling that one, just, it might be just to kick out, kick out the ass he needs. Yeah. Fair, you're in Dublin. You can go to one place for a drink where do you go? That's from Mark Simpson. Yeah, I would go to the goat. Oh my God. No, no, seriously, cause I drink there anyway, so it's like, or to step in, but then that's, that's me up the mountain sounds. Well, for me, it's more against me and, and a point and I don't want any other fucker around me. So, um, what about you flowy, where would you go? Yeah, it had to be the Laurels, a lot of my issues. Did I say the thing for? Oh, yeah, in there with the boys. And he, for me, it's my pub's to avoid. And my pub's already. Of course not. Yeah. Pochin's still for me. Pochin's still lovely. Jimmy Henry, he's at red to lead. He says, being realistic, what are the three things that you would do to ensure a top four finish? That's quite interesting. Mr Casey. So, in the defence of midfielder, not play Gerard in sentiment field and drop Scotland Johnson. Very nice. James, I'm going to give you that one as well. Three things to ensure top four finish. Yeah, don't sort of, don't pick people into the cups unless it's kind of, you know, unless it's a bit of a prestige draw that we get, you know, united or an Everton or something like that. Um, you know, try and get people in as quickly as possible this month. And, you know, don't really, don't leave any, any stone on turn. I think if anything, it would probably wise to sort of speculate to accumulate in this window in terms of the fact that we, as I said, we may not get a better chance. So in terms of bringing players in, this may be a people if you bring a lot of players in, but I think we need to go at least, at least probably three in, you know, full back defence midfielder, Wylie Tackett. That will do. That will do. Noel Karl asks, "Where were people so confident of a win yesterday after a tough game against City, tripped to London, Chelsea had two home matches, they had an easy trip to Swansea." Andy, why was it that people were so upbeat and confident going to that game against City? I happened to clue. I wasn't, um, winning, I was never lost at home, you know. Why do people suddenly think we're going to turn Chelsea over? Like, I certainly thought we kind of give a better performance, like, well, you know, I thought we could play them off the park, but I thought a draw would have been, you know, a squeeze, I don't know where people were going with, oh yeah, we win. I didn't think we'd win, and I said it on here, I said it from last week on the park, and I was more disappointed with the City loss than I was with the Chelsea loss, because I never thought we were going to win the Stanford Bridge. Fair enough. Marco Lopez, he asks, "Why should Liverpool FC fans be so negative about the future?" She tells him what we were just talking about. After those two games, especially when we got January coming up and the possibility to change it. I just want to jump in there. I'm not negative about the future at all. I think if you put them those defeats into context in terms of the runner games that we had and the number of points that we charged up, there's nothing to be negative about. Yeah, we can be angry about the manner in terms of the goals that we conceded, but there's no reason to be negative at all for in terms of what's going on. If anything, we've proven to ourselves that we can amass the amount of points that we need to get Champions League, all we need to know is to apply ourselves and get a bit of local injuries, make a couple of decent swings in January, and we can deliver this. Fair enough. Personal query here from Terry Clegg, he's out right legit and he asks, "Floody, it's raining. I've got a day off. Should I sit in and read or should I go to the pub and read?" The closest thing I've ever read is an audiobook. I suppose if you're on a raid, you move on to the pool, go to the pool and drink. Anyone that reads in the pool is a fucking slap. Straight into the hammer room. Laptops and fucking newspaper is a book in the pool. Get over there. Oh, what about sitting there with your iPhone in front of you and reading the way there? Yeah, and what a guilty of that book. Fair enough to say it is. It's bad for them in a book. It's bad for them. You look at two lads sitting at the bar and a bolt on their phones or whatever. So for you, that pub is for simply drinking, having a crack, having a chat, having a chat with the barman, having a chat with the lads. What do you mean going on your own? Would you never just bring in a paper and read a paper and a pub, no? I'd never drink a meon. That's a bit depressing. That's me told there. This is good one. I'll come straight to you James on this. This is from Nick at Mersey Boy Red. He says, "Which Premier League ref is most urgently in need of binning or goo-lagging?" He says, "Well, you reckon, James?" Well, I've got a fucking good answer to this because it's the next one after Merino's comments who wrongly penalises Suarez for diving. They can be put in the fucking stocks and then stuck on the train to Siberia. So the next one was weak enough, right, to show any kind of response whatsoever to Merino's bollocks in the wake of yesterday when it was a clear penalty. Whichever one that is, be it the next on New Year's Day, be it in a week, month, year, get them in the fucking bin. This one leads on from there, Alice. Put them all in the bin. That's what I say, in the girl lags, fucking get robots. This is for you, Phil. It's from John Agam and he says, "Do you consider that Jose is a quality friend for Brendan?" Nope. In fact, Rogers should have gone all out in the press conference and fucking pointed out that Merino and his running down the line and everything like that was a disgrace and he should have started a field run because Merino loads a field and it's time the Brendan drops the party party act with Merino and fucking, because as soon as Merino sees Rogers as a threat, Merino would start the badminton of Rogers just as Fergsen did and that's what happened between Fergsen and Merino. They still say party party but there was badminton between them in the press. It drives me mad that they're going to say it because up until now, Rogers has been great in terms of dealing with her managers. I don't like this party party act with Merino. In fact, I'd like a field between the two. It'd be interesting to say, actually, how Rogers would deal with the mind games. You know, if Liverpool are getting self-involved in the title race, it'd be interesting to see because he is very, very noisy. Okay, we'll add that one out obviously. Thanks for that. All right, next one is from JAG. JAG says, "Which Star Wars character did you want to slap the shit out of?" James Owens. You put the wrong man again. I'm not much of a Star Wars man. Watch your Wars pay top off for a pizza. Yeah, George, I mean, the fan of Manus is the only Star Wars film I've seen at the cinema. I was one of the mates of the big Star Wars fan. I wasn't really into it, but yeah, he was a titty. My friend was, as well, I mean, using a complete more wrong book. Yeah, yeah, you look a little fair enough. Phil Casey sci-fi buff. Luke Skywalker. Yeah, I mean, oh, why? Oh, what a windy little cry, bitch. Him and his fucking head on a cry, bitch. Yeah, oh, he's just such a, oh, I was hoping that Vader chopped his head off in the force when they would, like, seriously, he's just, for somebody who's meant to be the hero, the, oh, just fucking moaning when he's in Dagoban. And Yald is trying to give him lessons. He just gone fuck off, Luke. Seriously, if I was Yald, I would have thrown him into the swamp, jumped into the X wing for it before the self and just went off and did it and just said, listen, I'm going to die at the end of this anyway. I don't care. But what a bitch. Like, honestly, I just, I can't stand Luke Skywalker. Honestly, if I was Jack Vader, even though it was me, I would have chopped his head off for being such a bitch at the bottom of cloud city. This is easily the most motivated we've seen Philip even. It's quite nice. Elsgos asks, if cubes were outlawed, what would be your preferred shape of frozen water beverage, temperature controllers? Which is quite helpful. Any ideas on that? Yeah. Has anyone ever had those plastic cube, cube balls that you put into your freezer and they freeze and you drop them into your glass? It's a real mid-90s thing that used to be there. Yeah, that's the, it's the easy one. I know they had, they had, sort of, ice trays and lava boards and all that. That's too much effort. Just get the cube balls and you can keep using them. If you could pick any period of history in which to be born, this is from grey. Which period would you pick and why? Everyone's avoiding my gay shit. Oh, Andy's up. Two thousand and 90. There's, there's a serious problem with that in that. It's not history. Yeah. Sorry to, sorry to be a picky man. That was a bit, that was a bit of a fair answer, wasn't it? All right, why, go on, give us the reason why you want to be born in the future, I don't know. I wouldn't have, no, I wouldn't like it to be born maybe in the 70s to enjoy the 80s bit better. I think I, like, I was born in 1981, you know, and I think I missed out on a lot just kind of grown up in that time. So a nice Liverpool centric answer there. I like that, that's good, that's good. I, I, I probably would have gone for the Roman times. As a Roman, no, I wouldn't want to be in the center zone now, I would prefer to be like a one of the central audience, with a fucking sword and a dress and everything fighting like man. Sorry to be honest. Yeah, you know, I was just caused a fruity, no? Definitely, definitely the Roman times, man, rocked. James, do you want to finish this out in this one? I really want, I mean, the history is the one that kills it for me because I'd love to just be born at a time in the future where no one has to kind of like, you know, work and just, you know, technology in society is just a lot more advanced than there's a lot around your flying car and stuff like that. In terms of history, in terms of history, I don't know, probably at an age where you kind of get older a few years younger, a few years older than I am where, you know, maybe to sort of get in before the world's sort of financial meltdown, I suppose, so you get all the benefits of being alive for all the technology and medicine and everything we've got now, but maybe just at a better age when it all went to, it's so economic to this, but it's all about being short. Let's, let's, let's, February helmets, shields. I'm just going to lightly finish here. Italians. You just bear with me lessons, he's nearly done. And we're out, and we're out, right. Things are fucking out. Biggest, biggest, biggest, biggest. Thanks, as always, to the lovely folk here at Astro Park, who provide us with a base from which to create the Weekly Nonsense, which we call the Day Trippers Podcast. This is Dublin's finest five-aside venue, and a marvellous facility, you should check them out on www.astropart.ie. Worthy to mention, especially for new listeners, are the mighty Johnny Wrep, who provide our rocking intro music as you get on them in iTunes and all respectable record stores. Don't forget, also to get your tickets in for the Anatomy of Liverpool Night with Jonathan Wilson on January 12th. Tickets are still available at www.eventbrite.tv, E-M-T-B-R-I-T-E.com. Get on that, it'll be a belter of a night, and we'll have, we'll be there if you have any issues, and you'd like to sort out there. Casey, you can always come over and do that. If you want to win two tickets, we'll have a little question for you, which we'll publish on Liverpool Ways and Day Trippers, and also on Beyond the Cup as well. Now, as mentioned earlier, the answer to the messy question was the excellent 30 for 30 documentary unmatched, and we have a winner, the chosen winner, and it is Paddy Borton, isn't it? Yeah, it's Paddy Borton. Okay, so Paddy will be getting on to you and getting your details and sending that book out to yourself. And finally, don't forget, five times our brain, Diamman, and Jamie Carragher over Ireland in February. It should be a great night. We've got tickets for that as well to give away, and we'll be launching a competition for that in the middle of January, so keep your ears peeled. And finally, thanks to Connor from the Final Third Podcast for giving us his thoughts this evening. Your day trippers tonight were a Phil Casey, Damian Flood, and the young James Owens on my self-trived Danny. We'll speak to you next week. 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On this weeks episode we talk about our recent defeats to chelsea and city and look at the recurring themes from both games. We talk about our own worst right back we can think of to have played for LFC. We have an exclusive interview with Rob Jones one of LFC’s best ever right backs on his career and his current coaching role with the club.We announce Paddy Bourton as the winner of the signed Guillem Balague Messi Autobiography. We talk listeners questions. And dont forget the Anatomy of Liverpool Night on January 12th with Jonathan Wilson and 5Times with Carra and Didi in February. Tickets available for both but going fast. Get on them ASAP.
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