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The creator of various hudgy pick monster pieces, the originator of Muddy Red, an author of a spectacularly scathing biography and star LFC left back Paul Kinchesky is of course Paul Brennan aka Brenzi AZ. We also have a special guest interview in this Christmas edition as earlier in the week I caught up with Guillaume Baligay when he was in town. As usual, review the win over Cardiff, preview the next game against City, give a nod to Maureen and his band of expensively assembled all sorts and round up with your yield tied listeners questions. Liverpool feature with a focus on some lamentable net minders. This week we focus on left bots and I believe Andy is going to get us started, Andy. Yeah, well, just to be a little bit different as usual, we decided to go away, you know, not just our players like all the Kinchesky's or whatever, they, you know, they're not the worst of the wars, but I'm going to kind of go with the best wars team, if that makes any sense. Andy doesn't like what you're going to do, he's just clarifying. So let's just say, you know, players that maybe were brought up by Hillieri Rafa mainly, you know, as kind of missing pieces in Jigsaw's or, you know, they're built up by ourselves, the media, you know, and what we kind of, what we, we thought we were buying. So I'm going to just say at the end, what kind of a team it looks like. I see. So you're looking at disappointing lights, who's possibly right there. So just to kind of make it a little bit more interesting and there's a brilliant topic and looking back at some of the players, it's looking hilarious. But in this last week, so I'm just going to trial Kirkland then as a, as a England's number one, like, you know, I could have went for an inch and not a war, not a war's prick that's put a short on, what he did at the Hillsborough Mall, he was just graceful. But I left back to know he, um, caught there's a few, you know, there's a few blading bad players that's played left back, like, you know, vignal springs to mind. And I was hoping to be a bad include Norelio, but you know, we thought we were getting a quality player there, you know, and he put his injuries at scale them. Fabarelli or anything. Fabarelli. Oh, I don't care. Fabarelli. I'm so tired. Yeah. Jimmy Chorare, but you know, it's done. So he's going to change the rules. Yeah. Yeah. Miles over him. Julian Dix and then Conchesky is an obvious show. Gonna go for, and, and see over there, there's another disappointed player we brought in. We're going to go with Diego. Anyway, left back. See you. Yeah. I mean, came in there, um, played with my land, played a barn, you know, uh, comes to Liverpool and does absolutely show you. I know you had a couple of injuries as well. And then, uh, and then to make the top thing off, we end up getting done a couple of years later for an illegal approach for the player. Yeah. So I mean, he's just there. You know, someone you want to forget. So, I was eager left. Full. So you get lovely start. Phil Casey. Yeah. That's one of these ones that you can just pick endless numbers and names. We've been brilliant at choosing the left back over the years and, uh, as we use in Flanagan who's a right back at left back at this stage, um, at least the soco has to be very close and have this list brought in alone and, uh, can't get in ahead of that. It was like about the 15 choice right back at the start of the season. Um, Conchesky is so hard to not pick. It's, he was, he's the epitome of Hodgson, if you could wrap Hodgson in a full parter, Conchesky is everything that is. And then there was the motor and then, uh, but Julian Dix, that was another one. I remember Julian Dix on it for the whole, I remember the hype that was going around at the time. I remember, cause obviously there was no Twitter and there was no internet back then in the dark days. And, um, he was fucking woefully, we came, we came up with a big hardman tag. As it turned out, he had no cartilage left in his knees and there's still question marks as to how he passed a fitness test to soil for the club and the force, please. Ziga. Yep. The face had it all. Had more spotter and lunar craters than the fucking moon. But to point Jaz, I wanted to punch the, I wouldn't mind, Andy, I'll say it as well. He had such a good season with Middlesbrough before he actually saw him for us, cause we got done for tap and what was it? Yeah, he was, like he was a player. He came to us and he last out his ability, um, but now, um, did the list for left backs as well? Starting from the school force, starting from the school force, you could go on for days. Treyari. I'm, I'm, I'm going to go, I'm, I'm going to go with Julian Dix cause I can't pick any player that was, that ever existed in the Hudson area cause I've wiped the Hudson area from my mind. I don't know what Julian Dix because I can't wipe the sea on this fucking area of management from my mind. So Dix it is what there's no character in the news. Julian Dix. Paul Brennan. You're a shout. Well, I'm not going to be thinking about it here. It's Paul Kinchersky. For the exact opposite reason, that feels hate, because I can't fucking wipe that rain from my memory. We've known this maybe, we've known. The ruins are still raw and he was just a fucking deplorable player really, like, and it's kind of scary because he seems like a nice guy, like the way you kind of handle that, you know that, you know the stuff with his mouth, like he never said that he could have had a pop at Liverpool fans, he could have said that and even, even when he's interviewed after the fact, like there's, there's just nothing he's just kind of moved on. Yeah. Just we kind of haven't really. Well, I haven't anyway. So yeah, he just could like, there was nothing to his game at all. So like Hudson just put him in the fucking team cause he wasn't going to do that. Well, he wasn't going to lose the ball trying to dribble forward, he did lose it cause he, you know, have a shit clearance. And that was all right, but Hudson, like, Hudson had rather conceived 10 goals from his left back being shit than one from his left back kind of fucking, you know, kind of pass the ball out around. And so yeah, it's Kinchesky for me. I would say on Kinchesky as well, the worst bit is that we saw in Kinchesky as the number two choice to Luke, you'll say, yeah. Okay. We gave away the link full of my cat Nick Litch, now he plays every week for them, like, and we gave them him and cash for a fucking fucking Chesky, like, so yeah, for me, it's going to be fucking Chesky. It's pretty definitive. They were, um, I was going to go with Julian Dix this week. At half fields would have went with Kinchesky, but he's at the fucking rum, Dix on me. But I'm not going to go back to Julian Dix when he saw him, it was a fucking disaster from day one. He was overweight. He couldn't run, couldn't play. It feels like there's no characters in his nose. And then, soon as it comes out with an absolute lunatic of a statement saying, "It was all time 11 that he's managed to fix with you in there all day long." More godly. How bad was that? So, it's fixed for me. Yep. It's forever. Yeah, actually, it's fixed for everyone. It's for everyone. It's for everyone. Julian, thanks, Hatrick, actually. I'm putting him in a bin that has only him and Raiser Rodok in it. He stills to pair of fat bastards. I hate them, right? On Saturday, we saw these Suarez-Terra highly motivated team apart. As his goals pushed Redman back to the top of that perch that they won't stand in there. Let's begin our review of Liverpool versus Cardiff by focusing on that guy, asking the question on the lips of so many people, which is just how good is Louis Suarez. Where does he stand in the pantheon of LFC Grates? This conversation type has been floating around amongst most people, I think, in the way well, I know we've had this chat ourselves. I feel like I know you've gone big on this in terms of where you would rate him from a personal conversation I had with you. Where do you think he rates? Is it a little bit much to be jumping up to the top of this on the basis of two seasons? For me, anyway, I've said it since we started this podcast. I've said it before. Louis Suarez is the most exciting player I've witnessed in Liverpool short since John Burns. He does things that you shouldn't be able to do on a football pitch. He attacks areas of the pitch, which doesn't make any sense, yet makes perfectly logical sense when he does it because something seems to happen from it. He's maddened ahead, as we are now, but he's now started becoming a camera-mad version in terms of that. He's taken all this frustration out in Scarden Golds, which I willingly come down. Yeah, where does he stand? He's top-tree for me. I know he's only here two seasons, but I've never seen a player in my time come to Liverpool and make this one and have that such a big of an impact to the point where, when he wears the captain's iron band as he did at the weekend, he could see he was the leader of the team and everybody was comfortable to look at him as the leader of the team. And this is less than six months since he went to the Guardian and said he wanted to leave the club. He's a paradox wrapped in enigma to call the cliche, but by Jesus, he's just wonderful. He makes me smile every time I see him play. And as I said, he's been the top-tree. The top-tree of my, but he's been the top-tree favorite player of all time. And I'd say for me, he's definitely one or two at this moment in terms of what I've seen. You might as well clarify at this stage, you've mentioned that top-tree about 18 times in that two minutes. Who's the other two? Barnsy is one. And then, if you're going for it, who I've witnessed on a football pitch in full glory, Macko would be in there. I know people don't agree with me, but when I watched him play for Liverpool in the 90s, he was everything in that team. And then, if you were to go into all time from what I've seen in terms of videos, and obviously Kenny is in terms of what he achieved with the club and what he did with the actual club, he'd have him in there instead of Macko. I'm just understanding, that's my point of view. Paul, as someone on the younger and the things here in the room, where would you rate Suarez amongst the players that you've seen perform for Liverpool? Well, I'd definitely say he's the best. Maybe Jared has come into it, but Suarez is just there. His output this season, the productivity is up there with Messi and Ronaldo really at the moment. So, even all the time, I put him in the top three forwards anyway. Well, that's actually very interesting there. And that's the conversation that everybody's doing to death out Messi. We're not rotating that conversation. Whether or not, as Brendan would say, he comes into that conversation. Does he, in court form, surely does? He has that this season, because he's really often, you know, last season, he's got a lot of goals, but he missed a lot of chances as well. Whereas this season, once he gets through on goal, you're sort of know the outcome. It's starting on multiple goals per match, which kind of separates him and them out from everybody else who are in the top bracket. All the stats on Twitter, you see that he's scored more goals in all these teams. I think one or two people may have mentioned that. That's it. I've seen them now. But yeah, that's so, I'd definitely put him in the top three. Ability-wise, anyway, that we've had probably the best ability-wise. Obviously, the trophies comes into it for some people. Like Kenny and Rush, kind of, they wiped the floor with his record trophy-wise, but they didn't come in, you know, at the back end of Roy Hodgson's reign, so. There it goes again. Still sorry. Yeah, definitely. I think, at the moment, he's probably the best player in the world on form. So, like, I definitely think he's up there with Messi and Ronaldo, if he keeps it up. Which means he has to be up there in the very top of Liverpool. Andy and Damon, quickly, Andy, yourself, what do you think? Yeah, just for me, like, I mean, I think it's a massive show to say that he's the best player ever played for Liverpool, but, Jesus, he is. Like, and people, if they're honest with themselves, I mean, people just don't want to say he's better than Kenny, or he's better than Jared, because of respect for them players. But, ability-wise, and what that fell is the only scar-and-cracker after cracker of goals. He's not scar-and-happy, and it's just unbelievable. And if you look at all the grades that play for Liverpool, they're single-out seasons, and I don't think any great Liverpool players had seasons, especially this season, like Suarez. So, he's the best player that's ever played for the club, ability-wise. And he's sure short of maybe some important goals and finals, or getting into the Champions League, and doing big things about really going down as a... I mean, I didn't put him in my yards on 11 simply because he's not there long enough, and he's not, you know, he's not done amazing things. You know, that's winning the stuff, but, you know, there's ability, absolutely. Best player that's ever played for the club. Jesus, that is a massive, massive show. And I know myself having much Kenny that no one's ever going to surpass. I think it was the Phillips, and maybe it's been a couple of years of success, sustained success, and sustained performance. But I do get the point you're making right now, just very little as impressive. Well, let's start planting the feet right back on the deck again, and now with something at the far end of the spectrum, looking at some things that weren't so wonderful from the weekend's match. We're just going to start off with a two-word prompt, and that's Glenn Johnson. What anyone like to get the ball wrong with this discussion after I've said that the kid looked like he was, I don't know, maybe on about 20% power for the whole match. He looked like he was almost drugged. I couldn't understand what has happened in the last two games. I haven't even got any strong ideas about why that might be or what's going on with that chop. We've seen a tweet, it was actually made me laugh. It was said, "Glenn Johnson looks like a player who's been asked to take a pickle." And it looks like he can't be asked really. Everything's he doesn't close the mind. Is it just coming down to the fact that there is no competition? If Glenn Johnson's fit, Glenn Johnson would play. Well, we said that last week, in a sense, the way that we're here, and the annoying thing for me was when they met the substitution, they played Kelly on it right back. So fucking Flanagan after that. What was that all about? I think it was the whole game. The 14th minute of the game, Flanagan takes a knock in a tackle, and he limps a bit afterwards. On a wondering, it might have been a dead leg, and he wanted to save him for the city match. That was only when I looked back at the game in terms of where it was. That may have been the logic in it, because it took him at 60 minutes to try to get more rest into it before the actual city match, because there's no way they can drop Flanagan here. Flanagan is pointing him to shame at the moment, absolutely pointing him to shame. He's 10 times the defender at the moment. Like, Johnson hasn't had a good game since the Fulham game, and let's be honest, that was an easy game for Johnson. You know, we played to a strengths and lots of football, but even since then, like, he's not even there to play football. Never mind the defender, we know he's a poor defender, but... That was a thing, even the supposed strengths of his going forward, bumming forward, being comfortable on the ball. I mean, he just wasn't that. The distribution was poor, the involvement. Linko played it and exist. Paul Bryan, any ideas yourself on what's going on with Glenn Johnson? Well, it could be complacency. Like, you know, he has no real kind of motivation to play out of his skin, because he's not going to get taken off as the substitution showed. Like, he's a player who's able to go, you know, kind of outside of fallback or inside and shoot, and he's doing neither. He's kind of, he's putting crosses into their shins, and he's losing the body. We nearly lost the goal, and the counterattack, I think, was known, nearly scored, because Johnson just did it on the wall too long. He just doesn't look ours, really, like the point that's been made. Well, we spoke last week about how he never seems to cut out the cross. We also spoke last week about how the guy, when was last time he saw him win a header and think, well, go away in there? So, if he's not going to be defensively dominant, he needs to give us what he gives us going forward. And when he does, that's wonderful. Yeah, but when it doesn't happen, he's in all event, isn't he? And he's not doing it at the moment. Yeah. So, yeah, like, even Flanagan, like, kind of looks more dangerous than, and Flanagan, like, he's a real spirited player like you do with the manager asks, but he hasn't got a tenth of the talent that Johnson has gone forward. Yeah. But he's chipped in with goals like he went close again at the end of the Spurs match. You know, like, he was involved in the play going forward against Cardiff, so. To be fair to the kid, actually, I thought I was at Phillips and was saying last week, he does actually have a bit of talent that maybe doesn't get credit for. I know he's considered to be relatively ordinary, but he does actually have a bit of talent. Yeah, he's able to, like, get involved in build-up play. Like, it's not as if you give him the ball and it's going back to the keeper. It's going into the stands or anything like that. He is able to get involved. And I don't know, I'm not just not really sure what's happening with Johnson, like, maybe even drop him, just see if he gives him a kick up the arse, like, because obviously we need him sort of, like, because we don't really have much in the way of replacements. Well, stay on that, basically, and it's tied in there. It's already been mentioned. That leads us into the discussion about the substitutions and the way that they were made. We've already had mention of it there. What did you think Paul about the substitutions that Brendan made? For me, the first one basically set us back. The second one then corrected the first one's mistake. Would that be fair somewhere? Yeah, as, as, as Alad said, what, like, what was the world taking, taking Flanagan off instead of Johnson, like, and putting Kelly over there, or, or right back. So, yeah, and then Cardiff, like, we conceded that kind of, that horrible goal. And then Cardiff, or suddenly they were all over us. And they, like, that didn't really change until they put on the three centre backs until he brought Agaran for Catino. So, yeah, it did seem to knock us a bit the substitutions. The first one. I want to be fair to say that that second one then was, was, was almost an attempt to rectify that, bring an Agaran. Yeah, it's a, it took the sting out of the game. Cardiff, like, they had looked dangerous from, from after their first goal. They did, like, it almost looked like there was only one team, one team that looked like they were going to score again for a while. But, yeah, Agaran, putting Agaran kind of, it stifled the game and kind of took the momentum out of Cardiff. So. Well, I know Andy's a big Agaran fan. Phil, do you see Agra keeping this place for the kids' game at the weekend? And, what are we going to do about Martin Skirtland as busy hands? No, if we go through the back, Agra definitely starts. And I think, I think, getting away from the correct and the mistake that he made in terms of, you know, the shape that he'd gone with, in terms of Kelly and Johnson and bringing Agaran to Troy Charlotte up. I think he may be looking at getting the three in, in the positions that he may play, either against Chelsea or Seattle. You know, I don't know which one we, we'll talk about a little bit. You know, I think he may have been looking at that to get the lads familiar with each other and playing in that, that shape again. More disappointment in, in, in terms of does, does Agra come back in? Agra took the, the, the Iron Band as soon as he came on the pitch. So there's a definite hierarchy in terms of who's there. And. That was Suarez's day on the fair. And it's like, that was a really good gesture. But he was, he was heads up straight away and looked over. And I think, if Suarez is playing a very kind of a modest game at the moment, it's like, you know, every, every time he's asked to go, it's personal achievements. He's starting to tame the team. So he sees Agra coming on. And when he was asked about Catherine, he said, there's only one Captain Gerard. You know, so he sees it coming on. And that's, that was a Suarez team. I don't think. No, it's not. You understand is that it's also called for Agra because it allows him, he comes on and he knows that he's still in the eyes of the team. That's there. He's still respected. And it's still, look, it's not what you've taken your spots on because you can't even get in the, in the 11 at this point in time. And Martin Scarto. Martin Scarto. He's, he's a, he's just. What's, what, what does me head in is that he does 90% of things really well at this moment in time, right? And he's, he's doing 10% of stupid fucking imagery on the pitch. All like, you're looking at him half the time he's wrestling them for absolutely no reason. Like, I can understand being tied to the fella and not getting, allowed him to get a free run in corners and, and free kicks in the whole lot, right? But he is right on that borderline of a fella just being pulled down in the box. And I'm telling it, going up against the likes of Hazard Nada for Chazzi. Those boys will be hitting the deck quicker than, than anything. They'll be sure to shout at the hand is being pulled along so I don't, and the whole lot. Like, surely somebody in the video analysis side of the globe is pulling them inside and saying, look at Martin, we don't want you getting physical and all, you know, we don't want you blocking off runs and stuff like this. But the eyeball are going to be on you now this weekend because it was pointed out numerous times in the coverage of the match at the weekend that you were pulling here. And they're saying, oh, look, he's getting tight and he's pulling the player and there's a bit of this. Yeah, it gets, it's because it's basic fail, I think. It's just, it's stand out with Agra sometimes it's a little, more, more, yeah, and it's things that people, go unnoticed with most people, but with Scarlett, everybody can say you can't be down when he's down. It's just more less than the, the, the other team, you know, like, he's not looking at the ball and we're saying here a few weeks ago, like, this is all, this is constant with him. You know, and it's, it is, it is going to cost us eventually with a penalty. And then, I mean, if he's not aware where the ball is, that's, that's when, that's when it really comes down to somebody to pull them aside and saying, like, you know, what's the story here? We both, we both played a bit. I mean, you can understand if you're a little bit of a short, there's going up against a big lad. You're going to pull and drag and you're going to try and get an advantage. But Skirt's going to be a bigger heap of a, of a lad than anyone. So, look at what you're thinking. You'd imagine, I mean, you know, he wins Harrow's like, he wins Harrow's when we, we get caught as in he goes up. I mean, he's not attacking balls at all. He's not worried about the ball at whatever. He's, he's like, he's intimidated by the opposition. And I think the only time we've seen that caught out of his game was under Kenny and when Clark was there, Coach and as well. And I think that was caught out of his game. And it was, that was the best part of his career. So I think like it's, it's still there for him, you know, if he just caught that out. At the moment, they give he was the pick too. It was just the agar and sack of all day. You know, and I know agar is not an area of presence here, but he certainly doesn't do these fundamental crazy things, you know. Yeah, slowly your mind has done a bit of time as a center half yourself. Where do you stand on Martin Scott? I mean, people seem to be very polarized in their opinions. Some people want them to be in, some people think this guy, like Andy says, has something about him. When you stand on beside Sacco, you can see a clear difference in quality anyway, but where do you feel he fits in? He's definitely not Daniel Agar. Let's put it that way. But what he can offer is he is fairly solid in the tackle. That's, that's not like that. He is fairly game. What we've all kind of noticed is that, stupid league, as a center half, any car or any ball coming in, you attack the ball. Don't worry about the man, he'll much league. Go win the ball first and foremost league. He doesn't even look at the ball where it's coming from. All he's interested in is where's my man. I'm going to hold him and drag out and pull out him. You can't do that. Like you've got to have some confidence around ability, like you're going to win this header, you know. How does an international captain, man, he's been the first team for Liverpool for so long, not a conference? It's bizarre, isn't it? It's really strange and I'm surprised that none of the defensive coaches have picked up on it. You know, it's very easy to run around and say, "Open your body half your yard, man. I'm going to have to hold on." And come and attack it and it takes any kind of wrestling match out of your equation then. But he's not, he's literally on top, running top of his mind. Get him something over on the bread. Just take his yard off and come and meet it and follow him. Like with the set piece stuff, which we probably mentioned again, I'm sure we're going to mention before the end of the season repeatedly, it's basic culture now, what you're talking about, isn't it? That's simple defensive culture, man. And when you see, like I say, Sacco or Iger just doing those things relatively effortlessly, what is going on there? Is it just a deficiency in that lad's head or what? It's supposed to be because, you know, some of the other ends of it, he's a real threat in the opposition box in the corner. He makes shared movements and he'll get a good run and a good jumper and he's dominant there. He used to be a centre forward, he started off as a centre forward. Really? Yeah. Just a show. But when you look at it, he comes and attacks the ball with such aggression. But when you see American somebody in the box, like he's pulling and dragging, what is he kind of just saying, right? I'm going to get a toy to him, the ball comes in and I'm going to win it and I'm going to attack it. He doesn't try win the ball or attack it, he just tries to win the rest of the match. That's just nuts. There was one cross that came in where he kind of turned around while he was pulling at Parker. He started turning around 270 degrees and then ended up swinging his right boot at it. And I think we got a free kick out of it somehow or something like that, as Henderson was clearing it. But that was just kind of like, as Floody said, open your body and get your head on it. He's pulling out Parker and then realised, oh shit, the ball's going to drop down at kind of foot height. And it goes out and out. The same with the goal against, the own goal he scored against West Ham I thought. He was grabbing onto the West Ham forward, like where he could have dropped back and defended the space. But instead he had to turn around and swing his boot out and you can see it in the own goal. But both times he done that, he ended up back to the ball coming in. You can't defend that way, he doesn't know where the ball is coming from. It's basic, isn't it? By contrast then, Paul, we mentioned him passing. Sacco, I mean, this is a guy who looks just at home. He's physically dominant, he wins his area of battles, he's composed in the ball. I don't remember him misplacing a pass, I'm sure he did, but I don't remember it. But he hit the ball across the deck directly to the feet of whoever is going to it. This sounds like a simple thing, clearly it's not. When you look at some other agents. So, what is it that makes this guy, he's just able to just adapt so quickly? Fucking many agents. I'm not sure, because Skirtle and Sacco are both kind of aggressive centre racks, but there seems to be a kind of nervous aggression about Skirtle. He's always on the borderline of, you know, commitment in a fell, where as Sacco he seems to know when he's chasing someone out of the void, when he's supposed to press them, or when he should drop off, and he's dominant in the air, and he seems to know what's going on around him, whereas, as we were saying, Skirtle's too busy kind of grabbing onto defenders. So, Sacco has a confidence with man who knows he will fucking kill you. Basically, yeah. Where does he hide the bloody stuff? To echo Paul's comment, like, the amount of times you see Sacco getting on the ball in the air. Coming back to Daimler's point about attacking the ball, his forced and foremost heart when he's defending. It's not the man that he's defending against, it's that he's going to win the ball. The amount of times he comes around, David Luis is great at this as well. He comes around the player, gets to the ball forced, nicks it away, or gets a clearance in, before the player even realizes that he's come through him. Like, he's just coming around the side of him all the time. He gets cut out at some point during the year, he won't make contact, he'll get rolled, and the player will be in behind him, and he'll look at a complete spire. If he keeps doing that for 94 and is successful, 94% of the time, he's doing everything that we use to laud Sami Hupia for in terms of his ability. And even his past ability, but I think there's a bit of pace in him. I text you at one point, we went into the counter-attack, and anyone get this out and have a look at it, and we broke from one of their corners, right? The forced man in the Cardiff box, I was like, "I think I'm..." You can just see it, it was just a train, and he ran, he reminded me so much of it, or Cola at the start of the season. He was just like a train through the centre of the pitch, he just ran in a straight line, with power and pace, and he was just gone, and next minute the ball was out wide, and he was the front man, he got ahead of the hole, and he was looking for the ball, and then he had to turn around and run back, because they never got to cross, and I was like, "I actually think Glenn Johnson lost the ball out on the right hand side." Thank you, thank you, thank you so much, thank you. Fuck this, I'm off-backing. He did that again late in the match, and he took his sweet time back, and he just stayed up there, maybe he'd come up again, and just go a little bit sooner, you know? Let's just have a look at one more issue here, which is the form of Jordan Henderson. I'm going to come to you on this, because I know you're a massive Jared fan, and what I want to slant it in anyway, negatively, is it a coincidence that Henderson stepped up away from being functional and decent, and high energy and all that, to actually showing a lot of class on the ball, maybe having the confidence to take over that role. If you look at him, he's constantly balling people, he's pointing here, there, and everywhere. He looks every bit the leader that you see, he's being at underage level. Is that fair? It's maybe the absence of Jared, which is allowed that? Yeah, it's like the Henderson for the England on the 21s, like taking the game, but it's growing for the neck. Like Jared used to when he was Henderson's age. I don't know whether it's something to do with Jared not being the team, we can say that if we want, but I don't know if it is. The way he's playing at the moment is just brilliant, and it's a credit to him. He's a revelation at the moment, and he's taken that responsibility that Jared had. It's him more than Alan coming into the midfield that has his playing so well, and particularly in the last two games, and even just getting back to soccer, we don't think the credit for him how he is in the ball, and how kind he is coming out of the fence with the ball, and giving everyone a chance to get free. It's just it's making our midfield take over. I'm not a big fan of Alan. I don't think he's near as good as people have been making the last couple of games, but Henderson and the productivity we're getting out of soccer on the ball, it's just unbelievable. Far more than Alan, you know, Alan 40, 50 past the game. Soccer nearly 100 past this weekend. I disagree with Jared. I think the function of the midfield, since we changed around in terms of how we're playing the game, has freed Henderson to go and play as well as he has in the final toward. When he's been alongside Jared and Lucas part, he's basically functioned just as their legs trying to get around the pitch, and he hasn't been able to go and express himself. Now, having Alan alongside him, who's so efficient at pressing the ball and winning the ball, high up the pitch, just keeps us on the front foot. What we've talked about before in terms of the ability to press, and if you don't have Alan in there with Henderson, you don't have the same real aggressive press and presence. Now, we saw before Jared got injured, that even with Anderson and Alan in there alongside Jared, they were still able to function in the same way. We were aggressively pressing the team at home when Alan was playing alongside Jared. I think Alan is, at this moment in time, he's the one player that makes the rest of the midfield, be it Jared or Lucas in the other spot along so that Henderson makes the whole team work together because he's a simple controller. He's not sure Alan's off, he'll pick the ball up 20 yards out, and spray it 60 yards to the foot of the winger in space. What he does is he just allows that midfield to go little triangles, get the ball through quickly, and you're on the front foot really quickly, and you're able to break and control and dominate it. Yeah, I appreciate what you're saying. And he's become the donkey-walk midfielder. He's covering all that ground, although he's not the Alan that we've caused. We were getting the whole goal on the ball, and he was going to turn over 100 passes a game. He's the only donkey-walk. I appreciate that. He really is. But I'm just saying, I'm just going to get credit to the likes of soccer, who's pressing very high, and getting on the ball as well. And it does have a lot to do with how Anderson is playing, in my opinion. But slowly fair enough to say that, we've seen evidence now of Alan falling partnerships with either Lucas or Jared, and both of them seem to work those two partnerships, seem to work in different ways. And what Phil's talking about there is a level of mobility in the team. Is it clear, even at the Brendan at this stage, that if you have Lucas Leva and Stephen Jared in the same central key area that you are going to miss out on mobility? Well, don't miss out with Phil who spoke a lot about this, going back to Goodwill. I don't think Gerard being out of the team has brought Henderson on, but anything else. He might have just said, I'm going to talk a bit more about responsibility, and said, "I need to go and roll up and slay us here, we need a point where I'm going to go down with it." But it's definitely what Phil says, you cannot play Lucas and Jared center of the park, because all the children don't sit. And then we get exactly what we've only seen in Henderson. He does the likes, and he's that donkey. And he closes everything for them to hear a voice. It's the dominant. It's the dominant Anderson. And the reason guys have been Jordan Henderson. He was there before, and it was dominant. But one thing, if you notice when they play, if you notice Alan's standing position most of the time, it's 10 yards and so are the opposition half, and that pushes the rest of us up. So do the two lads that are pushed up. If it's Lucas and Jared, we're 10 yards and so are the round half. But Alan is so far, high up the field. It pushes everything else, and then the back four is pushed up on it, and it just squeezes everything up. And it makes us make them little triangles that we're looking for. Then the overloads, little four details, three details. We don't want to be paying this for about 60, 70 yards. I don't think the workforce will never have a workforce. Sweeties, these shabby sheds are such nonsense. It's not really unfair. I mean, that's crazy tough. Shabby was shabby. Yeah, no, but I'm encouraging Shabby coming in here. No, it doesn't work. No, I don't think we're working on it. It's just like putting Jared in before Lucas again there, you know. It's not bad at all. Just on the whole midfield and just the team as a unit. I think it's interesting when you look at it, because the team has been built. We criticized it when we started this off in terms of the way we were playing it. We weren't playing to the blueprint that we were given, et cetera, that's around it. Right? As the season has worn on and more of the sort of Rogers type players have come back into the team, the players are starting to play a different game in terms of the short, short pass, and you can move through the phases really quickly with lots of passes, and that happens really quickly. It doesn't need those long diagonal balls, which we were actually trying to play a lot at the start of the season. And for me, it's also why Raheem Sterling has been so good for us in this spell of form, because he likes to get a ball popped into his feet torn quickly, and either go past the man or play it off and then look for the return ball. Now, if you were, as Florie was saying, if you're playing those triangles where you're getting a 1-2 and a 1-2 constantly going and it allows that movement to happen, he suddenly becomes the Raheem Sterling that we'd seen originally, that he's just so lovely, he's so quick and he's sharp on the ball, and now he's got the confidence back in his game, as you could see at the weekend. And I know we were talking about the negatives in terms of the two players that would seem to struggle in terms of what's going on, and even the scarlet is in that really extraordinary. But that fourth half was fantastic to watch. It was really, really, really good football. It was 15 minutes to start, we were sort of a bit, and your wondering was it a bit down tempo from the elation of the way we played against sports, but then we kicked in and Jesus, when we kicked up that gear, the goal, the opening goal, the little chip passed back into Suarez from Henderson is a gloriously placed ball. That type of ball, I'd say now, if that was Gerard who delivered it, we'd be creaming ourselves over at how amazing that actual ball was back to Suarez. And Henderson deserves to praise his back heel as well, the awareness to see Suarez from the corner was way to layer back in for that tour goal that was there. It's just lovely to see that really attractive, fast-flowing, passing-based football. It brings you back to the fourth state of the game of the season, that fourth half where everything was short and sharp and so slick-looking, and you're looking at the 10th, thinking, "Holy shit, we're good!" You know what I mean? I couldn't imagine watching Liverpool and playing like that, especially over the last few years, and then you had to dip in the second half. But the game, we won the game. I don't call that a dip in the second half, carried out the bad sweat, that they're not that bad of a soil, they're really well structured and settled. And as Phil said, it forced 15-20 minutes of the game. We couldn't have struggled a little bit. We weren't really tearing my parrot running like that. That's just because they were structured well. But we continued on that game that we kept moving the ball, kept trying, kept moving the ball to three details. We eventually opened up, they can't defend like that the whole game. They've just been patient. I love for an alternative on the second half in terms of the perceived drop-off that we had, because it was really a 10-minute spell that they scored in, and they had another free header, that Kelly lost his marker on the corner from the Caribbean 3-2 at that stage. But for me, I thought it was planned. I actually genuinely thought that was planned. I thought we played a little bit deeper in the second half. I thought there was a bit of energy conservation going on because City is such a big match around the corner. He didn't have the range in the field to say on the bench to actually take out Seilucus and Henderson without actually really having to go and change the shape of the team. Will you come in the aftermath of that concession of the goal? I thought we were a jumbius fucker. Yeah, I had the fear going on from being on my fucking tour day of drinking at that stage, so I was anything that was jumpy. Man, even when he blew the whistle at the start of the game, I was jumping, I didn't know there was ghosts and everything. I can't say the same. I'm making it now, and I don't even think that the team were calm at all. They did look noticeably shaken. Yeah, I thought that was lovely. I tried to be relatively upbeat. I'm walking off the basis that I watched the back again today. Yeah. So I was able to watch the game in calmness. Brilliant. I still had the fear today. But watching it didn't look. When you watch it the second time around and you don't have the nerves in terms of the actual results and you look at the way it's being played, you can actually start seeing the midfield then trying to reassert it to control it and reassert the actual possession. We've finished the game strongly again. Yeah, I suppose what we need to acknowledge here for listeners is that Phil Casey is a walking ad for PowerAid today. He's got that much sugar and any number of them. It's actually America, he's even standing. Right, during the week I was looking off to meet and spend some time with author, journalist, TV pundit, and author, and good guy Guy Giam Ballegas. He was promoting his new biography of Lionel Messi in Dublin's Twisted Pepper. Giam was kind enough to agree to an exclusive interview with the day trippers and the lads entrusted the job to yours truly so here's our panda. OK, Giam you're here in Dublin promoting your messy biography, which is yet another great read. What's it like being so close to such a universally recognizable man, getting to know the player of a generation on such a personal level? It is an experience because you're entering the life of a guy. Not the life of the best player in the world, there's a difference. And when that happens you have to be very careful of how far you go and if you actually take in the right road and if you are directed the right way because at the end you're not him, you know he's brother, but you're somebody that is analyzing what made him and how he got where he got. So there's a lot of questions that you have to answer via research and by working hard. And by really 20 years of work, that work allows you to get close to people. That allows by word of mouth you're your name to be recognized and that allows at a point when you go to what it is a really small clique, the messes, to knock the dough and says, "Can I come in?" And when the answer is two weeks later, all right let's do it. Then of course you've gone through the most difficult of all obstacles because there was no way I could write this, same as with a pet book, same as with Assistant on the brink, I wouldn't have written it if it was just from the distance or with clips from newspapers, I had to be inside. And it is a delicate balance that you do between, you know, because I will tell you a story, but not so much the anecdote, but how he reacts to things, you know, how he deals with having a father who's a manager, how he deals with Ronaldo and that kind of thing. And you still have to double check and get close to other people around him to make sure if that's true. So there is a lot of that and you are answering as close as you can the questions. Did you feel in any way, I suppose, it's such a well known man, he's such a talented guy. And even though you're a leader and you're a profession, did you feel, was there an intimidation kind of level there along the lines of what I feel today speaking to you? So, you know, no, because this is your first interview, that's probably what you've been. When you're going to handle interviews you realize that the people that you're asking questions, so they're just normal guys. Sure. And they could be Ronaldo, they could be Messi, they could be Pébordiola, just from Mourinho. You would have, you know, after 20 years of work, you know, 22 years of work in the profession, you would have had prior moments with them, you would have gone to the males with them, you would have known that they all have the same fears and the same needs as anybody else. And in some cases even more because their life is more extreme. But no, no, I couldn't approach these people without, with intimidation or with fear, or with distance, I just had to see them as what they are. And it helps, for instance, that are not our front of hand. Sure, because, you know, you deal with Pébordiola and he was God at the time we were talking, and you deal with Messi and, you know, it doesn't get any bigger. But I'm an Español fan, and I see what they've done, and I see the good thing that they've done, but I also see that, you know, I don't look at things with, I don't know, with the eyes of a fan, basically. Yeah, so you had that distance, and I suppose they respected that maybe perhaps that you weren't fawning or being overly... I think what they respect is what I've done all my older years. So, and I think you realize in your next interview, in the future, when you've done more than a hundred, that it is about communicating and it's about linking with the person you're talking to and it's about listening, and it's about realizing that you are only a microphone, that's all you are. Then a microphone, if you're lucky enough, it becomes a pen, or you write your own opinions, or you write your own story, or you write this story of these big guys, and if you are very, very, very lucky and very, very, very good, then you are paid for your opinions. Perhaps too many people think that journalism is opinions, that's just the top of the profession. The rest is just holding a recorder and listening and interpreting and writing. Sure, absolutely. Well, you've written a lot on not just Messi, but also Guardiola. Is there something that connects the two men, in terms of some sort of characteristic or trait, which separates them out, clearly they're both talented men, but they're a lot of talented men. I mean, is there something that you noticed about the two of them, some sort of drive or different? It's a good question, because you see that in Raffavonita, just from Mourinho, in Cristiano Ronaldo, in Messi, in Pébordiola, and I think it's a compulsion to continue improving, maybe even the feeling that they're not good enough. It coincides in all the cases that they have to wear really hard, because they've got so much to doubt, so, in the case of Raffavonita, doubts were like, again, extreme, because you're in extreme and in many senses. But just the need to continue doing better, and it gets to a point, it really does get to a point, to most of us, too, that you think you've done enough, and then that's it. You just comfortable in your position, you earn enough money, you find, but these guys don't count the money they've earned, they just look, they just judge themselves by what they did yesterday, and if it wasn't good enough, then they have to improve, they have to get it better next time. And that, only the really best one, Raffavonita, both Messi and Pébordiola have it for sure. They have an abundance, obviously. Actually, it reminds me of something I was trying to speak about today, and the piece I was writing, Brandon Rogers was speaking about the drive or lack of it that a lot of young professionals have when it comes to, they signed their first big contract, and maybe the motivation goes a little bit. Is that what the two guys that we speak about? Is that what they have in extreme, that drives keep going on, like you say, the only as good as your last day? No doubt, and a lot of people have complained about that, that society has made people weaker, and society has made people wanting to get to the top faster, and of course there is no shortcut to the top. That football is a matter of society, you have that in football as well, a lot of people that don't get motivated unless they get very well paid. And a lot of complaints have come from the likes of Séralis Fereus and Brendan and people like that saying, young kids are like that. I wouldn't care about those young kids, that means that they wouldn't make it. There's enough people out there to make it. There's enough people out there that will just go through all the stages, beat all the obstacles and make it to the top. And they will be as good in terms of mentality as they have been for 100 years. It's just people that want to make it, and you only need 25 at the end. I understand the complaint, and perhaps what is happening is that it's a smaller pool of people that have got their hangout, that need to survive for whatever it is that took people in the past 60, 40, 50 years ago to the top. But in any case, people out there that really, really wanted to be footballous. So Brendan Rogers will have what to choose from. Sure, right. Something that struck me, it was in your earlier "Pep Gordy" all the book, a little story about Messi that really stuck with me. I've heard you actually recanted a couple of times as well, and it was the whole thing about where will he play. And it was quite shocking for me, because we have this opinion of Messi. I don't know whether it's received wisdom or whatever, of this quiet, humble kid. But he was basically pretty put out, wasn't he, when he wasn't getting to play centrally, which is where, you know, he's wonderful. And where there was this thing where he was getting shunted to the wing, he put his foot down, really, didn't he? Well, that was analyzed from a coaching point of view at the "Pep Gordy" level. In the Messi book, I've analyzed it from his point of view. And I think if you reach a compromise from those two angles, what you see is a guy who's played the same way since he was a kid, exactly the same way, and he hasn't changed, even though he's been told every single year, pass the ball, play white, stay white, wait for the ball, and he wouldn't do that. He would just go for the ball, and then when he added, he would just dribble to a three and cut him inside and stuff like that. That kind of confidence in what he does, that insistence in doing what he does, means that everybody that's on the way had to move either literally, like geographically, to one side or from the team. And that happened to him since he was a kid. Everybody that was on the way had to leave, because they weren't as good as he was, because the coaches failed, that the other guys were not giving enough to the team, and actually the other guys were the ones unbalancing the team, because if you are the coach of Messi, then you want to give him what he wants. You do, don't you, of course, as a coach. So obviously, that gets interpreted completely different by the people that had to move. Young kids still remember, of the age of Messi now, of course, but when there were kids, that they, you know, there was this guy that was very physical and realized that when Messi came in, he was going to be in the center, so you just have to go to another team. And you got that in every stage. Eray much, obviously, was on the way for those runs of Messi. And pay for the other set to even, would you move? And he said no, you know, put it in big words, that's what happened. And then the coach has to make a decision, because this guy is still going to be doing what he does. Now, in hindsight, we say great decision, because we allow one to get even better than they were in the first year, and all the first two years in the pep. But it means that there is victims, and of course you hear the story of the victim, and the victim will say, you know, this guy just got me out of the way. It is one of the things that I found, again, fascinating in looking at it from the Messi point of view, but it's normal that coaches do that for me, because I win the games for them. Yeah, so it is what it takes you to the top as well, the confidence that what you're doing is exactly what has to be done. But what's the difference between a guy like that, who has this just certainty about what he can bring to the team, and where he needs to play, and that's just all there is to it. And on the other hand, we saw Cristiano Ronaldo opening a museum in tribute to himself that recently. You can't imagine Messi doing something similar, but yet there's clearly that level of ego. Did you encounter that in a negative way in any way when you spoke with the man? I think in the next few months, I don't know exactly, maybe six months, maybe less, there's a museum opening in Rosario, where he's not going to be called the Leo Messi Museum, but he's going to show things from people that have been in Rosario. There's a lot of athletes and footballers that have come from Rosario. And Leo has helped, I guess, partly because Rosario did not show their love for Leo until very, very recently. And of course, Matthias, who collects his brother, who collects everything, probably ran out of space where he was. So he was like, "Boy, do we go and put this in?" It was interesting how you analyze it. Ronaldo, ego, museum, and this thing like, "Yeah, but Messi, if he does it, he probably just defines what he's doing it." And he's all about clichés and how we portrayed football in a kind of simple way, because that's why we want. I've got in my head that, as football fans, we stop growing at 12. So that's why we get so upset when we lose and so happy when we win. That's really fascinating. And yet, generally, our analysis of football when we have fans, kids' analysis, isn't it? This guy is terrible. This guy has to go. Emotionally, mature. Emotionally, mature. And kind of, the first time I heard that was from Justin Hobman saying that we really start growing when we are 16, he said, or something like that. But then we start seeing wrinkles in our face and why hair, and then you have to become like, behave like an older man, because you see that you look like an older man. But inside, you're still 16. But in football, there's a bit like that. And going back to the question, Christina Ronaldo is motivated by similar things to Leo. Sure, they represent different things, because when they're on the page, they behave differently quite clearly. But they have so much in common, so much in common. And interestingly enough, they respect themselves so much. When they're in front of each other, they recognize themselves as an emesis. And, you know, we all have our nemesis, and they make us better. But we want to be better than them. And if we, as sometimes we feel we're not, we kind of hate them, the nemesis. But perhaps what it is really is that we hate the fact that we're not good enough. So then we try harder, and there is a lot of respect for somebody that makes you better. Absolutely. So, Christina and Messi are going through the same stage. Do you feel, do you feel, again, that the question as to which of them is the superior footballer? And for a lot of people, it's almost a redundant question, because Messi has so much love from such a wide variety of people. But you do hear people on the creation of Cristiano, so clearly they're both immense. Do you think there's a valid case for both men, or would you see it now? Haven't seen so much mess, would you see it on one side of the way? We could argue which one is better. For me, Messi is the best player there's ever been. And that's partly why I immerse myself into his life and trying to find out what he got in there. But I take, I go back to the question, why do we want to choose between them two? First, secondly, why is there so much fascination about the Valondor of Assoulant? This is a collective game. And of course football is a mirror society, as we've said earlier, and that means that we look at it from individuals now because they're all about individuals, everywhere else, you know, it's about me, me, me, me. So, I don't like that question, you know, I don't like who is better. You just enjoy them both, and yeah, I understand that that attracts people, do football, the fact that the other two are the top, there's the Cristina Naparti Loa, Chris Everett of football at the moment. But there's this fascinating documentary that you all have to watch. It's called Unmatched, and it was Cristina Naparti Loa and Chris Everett going on a weekend, both of them away. I saw ESPN 30 by 30. Oh, it's fantastic. It's a little clue, somewhere in the book, in the message book that I wrote, I mentioned that. And just to hear what they're saying, it's like, you made me better. Yeah, no, but I hated you. No, it wasn't so much I hated you. It was like, but I envied you because I had so many feelings inside, Chris Everett, the American girlfriend, you know, who was the call lady, if you like. And she was saying, Martina, I saw you crying, I saw you throwing the racket down to the floor. And I wanted to do that, but I was told not to do it since I was a kid by my dad, so I had to keep it all inside. And I was like, I envied you because you kept everything inside, and, you know, we always want to be somebody else. But that same, one day, there will be that conversation, because I'm messy, and it will be similar. But it comes back to that point you made, it is quite an emotionally immature thing to want to pick the best, isn't it? As you say, just enjoy it in both. Yeah. Speaking about another person, I suppose, closer to the heart of Lupo fans that you would have spent a lot of time with in the company of. I was looking back over a season on the brink today, when I read it first, it was fascinating to me because I had rap on such a pedestal. And it was lovely to see different aspects of his character coming through in that book. But I think it kept coming back to this guy who is basically so driven, so driven, and more at home with a tactics board on a training pitch than in front of cameras or dealing with anything else. Is that fair? I mean, he's driven, and I think he's one of the best guys at his job, and he knows that, and he gets frustrated when that doesn't get recognised. Not by the public, but recognised by the clubs. He doesn't belong to the Zira, unconvinced. If he was English, if he was British, and was a coach 20 years ago, he would have been 20 years at a club at Liverpool, perhaps. Yeah. And would have got a wrong right, wrong right, but more right than wrong, for sure. But right, so remember when he, at that point, when he started, I have to read that book again, because I'm sure there'll be a little bit of clues of what's happened since then, because remember that time he started rotating and people were going on like Tinkerman and all that. And then we're ready to rotate now. And when he would just try to create a youth team, because he would allow the power in the academy, because he wanted a youth players to come into the first team. Which he eventually have got, he kind of prepared the way for some of the guys that have come into the first team now. And again, was seeing like he's spending money for nothing. The way he dealt with money, the fact that he almost was like zero money, zero pounds net spend the Chinese time at Liverpool, and that doesn't get recognised. He knows all that and sees that people don't realise, and is frustrating. And of course, he was doing things that Chelsea, straight away, you could see it on the page. If you're a bit of a coach, if you're a bit of a football analyst, you see what he was doing right, they are in good shape, they are moving well at his good balance. He was putting all that in, but there was all the shouting and the noise, which didn't allow a lot of people to see what happened. And then they won't think, so then everybody saw them. If he hadn't won things, the job was still the same. Job was still the same, it was an excellent job. And you can see now that just a Mourinho is struggling to get much more of the side, because there's no much more to the side. And Rafa will always maximise the potential of what any team has got. But there's people that want to make him look like a fool, and he's up to them. If they don't see that talent, don't recognise it, don't give him the creative deserves. You cannot please everybody, I guess. Sure. Well, look, I don't want to take much more of your time, Guillermo. If one or two more quick questions is, that's all right, we will go through them really fast. A guy who is probably possibly Rafa's best friend, Xavier Lanza, was done spectacularly well where he is currently. The rumours will not go away about a possible return to Liverpool. Yet again, yesterday, it was on the go. What's the likelihood of that? Irrespective of the suitability, what's the likelihood of him doing that? It's not going back. It's not going back. You'll be pretty sure about that. Yeah. Okay. There was one, it loves Liverpool. And because he loves Liverpool, he's got a difficult to choose his next team. Sure. So, you know, he cannot be Manchester United, and so on. I see him as a coach, and I see him. If he becomes a coach, he will be a manager of Liverpool at some point, I'm pretty sure about that. Yeah. Yeah, I think that would be a very popular thing. Can I finish off with a question that's kind of a topical one? There are a lot of stories going around. I'll just be interested to get you to take about the EU investigation into Realen Barks, or what in relation to State Aid, and then there's the story about the Neymar funds and all that type of thing. Are these kind of stories damaging for La Liga, or are they maybe a little bit baseless? What's your opinion on that? Well, it's based on the fact that for a long time, the big clubs, the football clubs in general, have depended too much on the council, and on government money, and on government leeway, and blind eyes, and stuff like that. But football is always real like that, in Spain. So, for instance, any local team will have a ground that's owned by the council, or will put the budget, the council will put the budget. I tried to buy a club not so long ago, and it was all had to be done via the council. If politically it was right for them, if they had the budget to help us, that's how football is done in Spain. So, of course, from an outsider point of view, you'll see that's not fair, and I agree with them. It's not fair that some clubs get helped and others they don't. I mean, Barcelona has received throughout the years a lot of help because it's politically good to be close to them. Spanish, on the other hand, being in the same city, hasn't had the same kind of advantages, and eventually has had to leave Barcelona to just be outside the proud cognizant to have a stadium. How would you deal with that? It'd be good to see somebody saying, "Okay, let's have a look." And they're going to have a look. Is it damaging? I don't care. It has to be done. It has to be done. Kim, you're a very, very good man. Thanks very much. I appreciate it. Have a nice time immensely. Thank you. Now, the exclusives don't end there. Thanks again. I have a hardback printers edition copy of "Messies to Give Away" to some lucky competition winners. You'll hear more of that and on. Despite the undeniable impressive displays of recent weeks and the irrepressible form of Louis Suarez, many are perhaps understandably wary of the Stevens Day game at the Etihad Stadium. So, let's begin our preview of City vs Liverpool. Keep in trust of your mind. With a simple question. Should Liverpool be wary of their opponents, or is it vice versa? Paul Brennan, what do you think? I definitely think we have to be wary of them, the home form that they've shown, and they're basically scoring as many goals as we are. I think that Alan and Henderson are absolutely key for us if we're going to get in here to try and get on top of Torre and Fernando. Just let the energy that they showed against Suarez have really kept them. They didn't let them settle at all. I'm dead. Dominic, I don't know. So, I think it's vital that we do that to City as well. Don't let them get into their floor or anything like that. So, I'm aware I was missing for them, which is a big boost for us, but I still think they're a huge, huge threat. And I think we have to do something similar to what we did at Suarez, and not let them get on top of us if we're going to get in from him. Do you think they'll come back to the gist of the question. Do you think they're actually probably a little bit more wary of us than they might have been otherwise given the recent form? They actually consider us a proper threat. I'd say so. Definitely. I don't think anyone enjoyed us. Any of our rivals enjoyed us smashing spores like that. Then I carried off as well. Apart from that, like we said, from when we considered the goal, it was a bit of a sloppy period, but it was an all-in-all. It was a fairly good win. So, I think City will be where he is, and obviously Suarez. I think you're nearly back in the score any game. So, I could see him scoring as well, but I think we really do have a kind of job on keeping on top of City. I don't want us to sit back around tonight. I'd like something similar to what we did to Suarez. And then Henderson just not leaving their midfield alone at all. So, it's going to be very much about discipline performance and hoping that we can kind of maybe make one or do you see this being? A lot of people are forecasting a very high scoring game at what you're talking about. Well, I'm not sure it's one of those that could really go either way if both teams click like so. So, I'd have thought about Trey at the back if we didn't have Sterling in such good form. I'd rather keep him out on the wing because the way he's playing, he's kind of like he's really involved in the build-up play, like the way he's moving into space, I think it's very impressive at the moment. So, I'd keep him in there in the 4-3-3 with the same midfield. Obviously, we have an eye on the Chelsea game, which is only a few days later, but I think unless we put Alan and Henderson really on top of them, I think we're kind of forfeiting our chances of getting into it really. Fair play. Andy, do you think we've got people across there and Manchester getting a little bit cautious and worried about us? Or do you think basically it's realistically, despite the position a bit of a mismatch? No, I don't think that he'll worry. They weren't worried about Harrison. There was no change in shape when Harrison played them. They'll be worried about Suarez. That's an absolute given. I'm sure everything this week now in training has been able to help to stop Suarez. After that, we don't think it'd be a saying a bit worried about us. That's just being honest. There are two teams that are playing in such a way that we've got more than you sort of thing. I think we can cause them. Lots of trouble. We can cause them trouble, but they're going to cause us an awful lot of trouble as well. Well, let's kind of segue into the next area down and keep you talking. We're going to look at city strengths and look up where we should be trying to be cautious. There's just simply condemned to the fact that they're a scoring machine when they want it, that are bloody scary and attack. Yeah, they have a busy front, too. Obviously, it was a grero, and they agreed up before. And now it's Zecco, and they really don't. And they played a 4-2-2 kind of thing, you know, and they've Nasri and Isabelle coming in after flanks. So I think it's an absolute certainty. It's the trade of Appille Santa backs. And not so much Flanagan and Johnson playing as a wingback sport. Just there, just busying themselves with the track coming forward from there, full backs, cliche and... Color off, that's it. Yeah. They'll be busy enough with them. And then you'll have Zecco and Nasri coming in after flanks. So the extra cent a half will help because, you know, they're playing to the upfront. And then Lucas and Alan, you know, just to try and look after what's coming into the middle, because they will have an extra man dropping into the box with all the chances. They're just... They're coming forward and waves and waves and attacks. And I think it could be back against the wall, still for Liverpool. But you just know you have that man's wall that's going to do so. You know, and because we're playing... Because we think we're playing extra cent a back, you're going to have to sacrifice here at Coutinho. And I'm not sure who it will be. You know, kind of... I'll probably think it will be Coutinho that might drop to the bench, you know, since it's there and it's playing well. Flully, through the back, what's your take on that? No, I think we'll stick with the four. I think we'll stick with the same shape. We've had the last couple of games. Obviously, we're going to force them to say, let's go to the city. Let's pull forward across the middle and go over our points. But I don't see why here. I really don't. Listen, if we lose the game, we lose the game. But we're still not a million miles away from them. We win the game. We put a gap in there. The aeropy at the back of the moment, the company on his day is the best around. What he looks pretty rocky at the moment, he really loves. With Zabela, Elle, who I think is probably one of our best defenders, he's excellent. And you'd be worried about him attacking Marcel in the family. He can cause a lot of problems down the road. With him out at him, let's say, go with the tree, go with the Coutinho, go to Suarez, go with the... and get on the front floor. I think we got the tree at the back. We'll end up what we did at whole. And that Suarez disjointed from the rest of the team. And the big gap appeared between midfield and Suarez. And we're not up behind the ball quick enough. Let's say, get the tree in the middle and go, man, for man, with their tree. And then let the two fullbacks, the day was over. And, as you're going to be talking, I say, let's just go over this game. I really do. And I would be kind of warned that would normally say, I feel it would be great. I'm just going over our point here. And let's be happy to get out of our point. What do you think we're going to win this? It's how you perceive the next run again. What kind of points are you going to be content with? And that's, I suppose, a separate issue. But maybe you can take it along here for yourself if you want to refer to it. How do you see the back lining up to sort of deal with the city? Just taking it back to the city team, right? I think their biggest weakness is demon careless in terms of how he defends. And if Pellegrini has them set up to play a relatively high-loin, which they generally do, that's where companies might be comfortable doing, especially when they're pushing their fallbacks on on either side, then you play continual and you play Sterling and you play Suarez, and the same way we went there last year, you're effective on your counterattack and you can get him behind them. And if we can get him behind them, as we've shown with Cardiff and Sterling's goal, how quickly we counted and how devastatingly we could be encountering. And we did it the previous week as well. There's goals there to be had. Now, my biggest issue in terms of how we set up is that no one Pellegrini had seen the way he worked at Malaga and also when he was at Rayo Madrid. He's not afraid to go with wide players, so he may well start with Navas and look to really overload a fallback sweater or play in tree or forwarder and really say, "Get to the looks of Johnson. Have Jekyll and the Gradle in the centre and whip those crosses in." And, as we know, as we said here last week, Johnson is a weakness when it comes to conceding crosses. And Jekyll and the Gradle are fantastic players in the year. Now, if I was Pellegrini and I was looking at how we set up, I'd be saying, "Right, get Navas out there, get Silver." I'd get to overload that area of the pitch as much as possible and get as many crosses into the box, especially with the way we've been talking about skeletal man-handling players in the box. And even if you don't get a free headrun, the ref's going to be looking at what skeletal's doing and we may get penalties out of it. And that's where I'd be identifying our weakest point in the actual defensive structure of our team actually is at this moment in time. How do we set up defensively? I'd be low to go back to tree at the back, just to get Agra back in the team. If we're going to put Agra back in the team, I'd just take Skirt low for this game, put Agra in straight away, that takes away the sort of referee's eyes on the centre back position. There is an issue that Sacco and Skirt are starting to form a partnership. Now, do you break the partnership up and we're back to a position that we're in to start the season. But I just think he's brought a bit of focus on himself and he can avoid this focus and potentially avoid a penalty which the referee may see. He's an easy penalty to give if he sees a bit of 100 in the box for this game. And as the lad said, it's a free game. It's a free win where we're going to it. Nobody expects us to win. They expect that we have a chance winner to match, but nobody will be saying that this is my way banker for Liverpool whereas they would have said it was a home banker against Cardiff. And we've got every chance of winning this game if we play it right. I'd even consider for this game and despite this form when it came on, I'd be looking at removing Johnson from the defense for this game as well. I don't think we can allow ourselves to be exposed in the full-back position when they have players at the quality of Silva, Navas, there to deliver quality balls and Nasri as well, because he can operate in wide positions as he did with Arsenal. So I just think we expose ourselves there and we give them a position to attack us from and score goals against, because we know that we've been weak early when it's come to concede and goals all season. Paul, where do you think we're going to go with this? To trade the back and if so, what would the personnel be? Well, I'm not sure. I wouldn't go trade the back myself. I'd probably go with what Phil said about maybe just dropping Skirtle and putting Agra in with Zeko, because what's the worst that can happen? He can just play his back. He's really scoring on goals and trying to give away a penalty himself. We really don't want to go down that road. Yeah, but I know it's not really a game where you say, "Oh, let's try something new." But like Phil says, Skirtle's just being so shaky-looking and he just looks like he's trying to give penalties away. Sometimes I think he plays like he's a fucking trainer attached to him. The way he turns after the ball and I'll just... Yeah, I'm not too comfortable with him, especially if they're looking to get crosses in. I think he's really nervous and dead, but then again, that's kind of one of Agra's weaklings as well. Paul, do you bring into this first chat a bit there? I've heard it said many, many times, it's almost like a free game. I mean, it's in our psychology very, very, very shaky in that if we do get a good tank, then the heads are going to go right the fuck down again. And it could be a terrible setback. Do you know what kind of way? Yeah, I don't think we have a lot of resilience, but I don't think we're the mentally strongest team. Like as we said earlier, when we can see the goal, there seems to be a kind of panic. No matter how well we've been playing, it's panic stations for ten minutes like against West Ham, when we can see it in against Cardiff, where we're on top of those games. Like I just tweeted, I think, just before Cardiff scored, that we were relentless, we weren't giving the momentum, then we give away that goal, and we just seemed to collapse nearly. So... There's a lesson there, Paul. Sorry. There's a lesson there in terms of you. I can tell that Paul actually is. Not only that, so we've got you on Twitter. We've got this land in the pool. We're in the pool. Who chinks is that? It may be anywhere near the pool. Although it's starting to get posted. That's good. Yeah, but it is sort of one way. You haven't budgeted for getting three points from it, so you could kind of go all out and say, "If we win, then it's great." I just think that the Chelsea game after it, that's a horrible placement for it. Because it means that if we really go for it, that's it. You can kind of leave a strain, go into Chelsea. And that Chelsea game is one that I think we can win. I don't think Chelsea wants to play us at all. Where is City? I think we'll fancy their chances against us. Yeah. Fair enough. Well, I suppose that leads us straight on to where we think this has gone to wrap up there and how we're going to get on. So Andy, how do you see the game going in terms of prediction or? Much prediction. Yeah. Just, I think a draw. Oh, he delighted with that. That's being as positive as possible there with that. And then that would set us up lovely going with the Chelsea game. You know, we got a draw because there were points to be taken from Chelsea at Sambridge Bridge. So we've got a real belief about that. You've got a belief about that. I think Chelsea will get out of it. That's not played on their own team. And I think they could hoard us as well. It's at pieces like the physical thing in the box. It could go horribly wrong and really could. But no, I think we can play them. I'm playing them off the park in Sambridge Bridge. The way they horned up against sports. I just don't think Liverpool are capable of doing that to City. If you come for a draw against City, set us up for that. I think if we drew against City, we'd be very happy and going into that next game. You know, don't forget all them teams have to come to Liverpool the second half. Very good. Very good. Both of them. I definitely think just for City's record, a home that I don't see a win for us. Anyway, definitely both hands to score on the day. I can see a score in there. If we are going to get anything out of the game, it's going to be very, very tough for us. I think if we are going to get out of the game, it's going to be just too swirce. A moment of brilliance. I'm hoping fingers crossed. I've wrote to Santi and asked him for three points. I'm going to get them, but let's just hope. But it's going to be, I can see a draw on the game. But it depends how Roger approaches the game. If he goes with a negative feeling in the game and goes for the point, I don't think we can wave it out. I think if he goes, looking for the three points, we might can wave it soon. Okay. Paul, it's all going to be a bit of a offence in that fact. Basically, well, yeah. I'd go... I'd go for the score and I think that's fairly optimistic because I don't think we'll conceive. I think they've too much quality, especially with kind of, we do look shaky at pieces. They've a lot of power. Santi went from there, so I do think we can see it. So I'll be optimistic and say that we'll score too as well. And I've got too hot. Too hot. I'd take a score as well, Phil. Well, I didn't put my prediction in last week because I said it would be a tight win for us. But, to know what, a bit like sports, I fancy us to back-sit you on Stephen's day. Don't know why. Don't know why. I have the exact same feeling about this. A cool bit of mental alcohol I've had over the last four days, but I'm definitely... Yeah. I definitely, definitely think we're running out with the three points against City. Chelsea, however, I think we're going to get beaten by it. So it sort of levels itself out in terms of looking at it. I'm actually, I think, coming into these games, I think to be, if we can get a draw against City, if we can avoid defeating the two, it would be disappointing because I'd rather win one and lose their... I'm just going to ask that. Would you rather two draws? I know some of these two points are one last and a win. Yeah. I think it's been performance. I mean, it's been a point. If you stay on beaten and bolt down, it's a statement, you know. Yeah, absolutely. And if you play relatively well. And don't look shaky at that. At the expense of one point, you know. I just think the bigger statement here will be to... And like Harrison, they're playing Chelsea tonight, so we don't know what the outcome of that game is. But, and we don't have a television here, so we don't know. We really don't know what's going on, but... Who's got no scars in this day? I can't breathe no clothes in the bunk out here. But no, I just think if we could beat City, given that everyone's going on about City being invincible at home, right? And Chelsea not looking as strong as the air. I just think it's a bigger statement win to beat City than it would be necessarily to beat Chelsea. We were in the same position here. It was two seasons ago, I think with Arsenal and City back to back and bolt games, we played brilliant in bolt games and fucking drew about games on winning positions. Yeah, last season. Last season, yeah. And it was just, I was all down the dumps after I fucking texted you and I was down ballistic. Yeah, people saw that as a setback rather than a positive. It was a setback, yeah. Take a win on one of the games. If you had gone into the Christmas period, in this run of games, until we get to post the Chelsea game, right? And we said of all the games. So you go on after all and you go right the way through and you only lose one game from those seven, right? Would you take that? Would you take 18 from 21 points? Everyone's taken. No, I know. You would have possibly been taken 15 from 21 points in terms of the teams that we had to face and where we had to go to face them. So that's what I'm saying. We take City, sorry, when we take City on Stephen's day, right? When we take City, I'm feeling maybe four or five meals, right? One, five, one. Okay. It'll be a scared long goal to win off his hoop. And I definitely think that's a statement of intent. I think it's a bigger statement of intent than necessarily going to Chelsea with the history there, that's what Moreno and the whole lot. And I think the type of season has been, it's likely that Torres is going to score against us in this game as well. So I don't know. I just think it will be a bigger statement to beat City than it would necessarily be Chelsea. Now, if we don't win against City, then the fucking James is back. Well, it did. I think there are two huge games. Obviously, like we've been maintaining this two point average per game quite nicely, you know, which gets your Champions League football, and I mean, I mean, I knew I would have taken that from Galton 7 to 4th. But, you know, you do something against these two teams, you know, and go unbeaten. All of a sudden, the perspective of those change, and you start thinking, are we champion? Can you hand us here? Yeah. You know, so at the moment, you're looking at two points per game, Champions League, Lovely. You do something against these two teams going into halfway point of the season, and you're thinking, hang on a minute. But let's be fair about this. In a title race at this moment in time. And even if we lose the next two games, we are still in a title race coming out the back end of those two games. And the players have to really believe this, because if they don't believe it at any stage and let the heads go, then suddenly a title race becomes a top four chase, and we are chasing the title here. Fuck it, we are. We're back in this. Jesus Christ, this is actually really, really scary stuff. I hope you're not crying into me face on the side of the next podcast, right? It's time once again for a second. Time once again for the section of the show, which we check under the bottom of our luxury saloon, which is our listenership, only discovered it needs a service quite regularly. So it's your listeners' questions. We'll start with one from my mate, Neb, and he asks, does Christmas make you feel jolly? Or do all the people buzzing around just making you want to chuck a tantrum? And you've got a personal experience of that today, because I know I do. Yeah, yeah. A fucking falling down moment. I was in the queue about 400 queues, right, and the fuckers are moving slowly. Do you know, it's the ones that are at the counter doing the gift filters. How long does it take to do a gift filter almost on wrapping it up, and on? I just want the poxy card, or you'll go on a wrapping, because I'm going to wrap it up anyway when I go home. Seriously, you should be allowed one queue a day, where you can kick seven bells to show you, where everyone that's in the queue, and not doing stupid things in the queue, and then you can walk away happy and feel glad walking around. I could deal with it then. And a fucking asshole's driving stupidly in car parts the wrong way, and how, honestly, I... [laughter] His brain just broke there, actually naive out there. [laughter] I think that answers your question absolutely perfectly. Next one's from Kevin Boyle, too, and he asked a very deep philosophical... Actually, question about probability. We all know the story about toast, and we all know the story about cats. What happens if you strap buttered toast to the back of your cat, and then you drop the cat and toast in the hole out a few feet? Floody, have you got a teary on this? Yeah, the DSPC-8. [laughter] I'll knock it around, I guess. I'll lock you up for being a fucking weirdo. [laughter] I don't fucking bring him back in there. Okay, this is from... I think it blowers up before it hits the ground. [laughter] That's him. [laughter] Oh, magic! Right, this is from Gray, he's at Red Forever 71. Um... Paul, pick one person to put in the bin. Uh, any football-related person to put in the bin, who was it? Real Ferdinand. Real Ferdinand. Explain, Paul. Do I really need to... [laughter] God, absolutely fucking everything I've built. [laughter] Okay, yeah. I like that the Five Cap range, that kind of Ferdinand image, that Mercked thing. What was it before when the war caused you? [laughter] It was just something... Getting the fucking bin. [laughter] It's the Christmas bin! [laughter] Oh, yeah, can I throw him in there? It's a really recent one. He was got on a moist game, Pat Niven. Oh! Oh! Oh, right! Oh, yeah, we'll be next week in there, and, uh, writing, uh, emails to, um, you know, start out there, recently, just to get in. [laughter] Oh, yeah, you've been calling for his head! Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I think he draws people away, but the fellow makes, uh, no effort to be, uh, to be understandable. The fucking hell, right? Uh, the next one's from Harry. He's at H.I.M. Escort Chamber, it's 1973. He asks, "Apart from you now that in Everton, and this is presuming us, you know, in Everton for you." "Which team in the league do you hate the most?" "I'll float, he's making movie stars in my care." [laughter] Fucking sports. [laughter] You can kind of take the banter off everything fans, 'cause they want a bit in that time, and, kind of, local royals. You know, it kind of, get me nares with, like, they won't shit those last ones. Sports with one, fuck all! Like, and, they give us abuse, and he's lagging up all fans, and he's lagging up with what he has. What if he's worn, he's had six day managers and ten months or something like that. "Ah, did you just get me nares, sports for you?" "Yes, sports, man." "I feel like any team you want to mention there?" Fucking loads of them. [laughter] Fulham. Well, you actually hate Fulham. I won't lie to you, right? I hate them. They're a nothing club. They, they, they existed to be nothing. They're just mid-table, they're happy mid-table, right? And that's, you know, you'll enjoy this part, actually. That's why you were fucking Hudson as well, right? If, if, if, if those fuckers hadn't won the fair play award that year, Hudson would never have been in the Europa League. He would never have gotten the Europa Cup final, and he would never have got the Liverpool manager's job, right? And it's all because, it's all because of Fulham, the Hudson became the Liverpool manager. So if you want to get a bin, and you want to bring a fucking bin, bring it over the craving cottage, get Michael Jackson, get fucking Hudson, get Mohammed out for you, get Fulham, and fuck it in the bin. [laughter] I feel they're coming back to life, very nicely. This is from L. Scout's, and he asked a very tactical question, Christmas tactical question. How many Brussels sprouts can you fit in your mouth while singing you'll never walk alone? Obviously you've tried this, Phil, so what's the, what's the story there? I read it, it's, it's beautiful. [laughter] Two of our regular question contributors, Darren Prichard, Jim Fishlock, they ask similar questions, so we'll merge it to them. If you could have one Liverpool-related person over for Christmas dinner with your family, and that's the important part here. Christmas dinner with your family, who would it be, Andy? [laughter] Didn't you see the question? [laughter] Yeah, it probably bounces through a lot. [laughter] I'm scared of shit over here, granny. [laughter] Do you think I might wait for a big way and transfer it? Just say that to me today. [laughter] Do you think granny fell away? I'm going to say Pat, Pat and Evan. [laughter] We'll get him his last meal. [laughter] At least he can leave that bit in there. Paul, who would you have over? Probably Suarez. He just looks kind of nice, like you know when he's after Fishlock when he's not fucking chewing people. [laughter] He looks kind of sound enough, like bring a box of corral in as well. [laughter] You're trying to get corona. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's be fair. Okay, next one up is from Irish Gauss. Another season of the query asks, "Why was Rudolph's nose so bright?" [laughter] I was a suspicion that he was out with you, drinking four days. [laughter] That's why he's taken it. [laughter] And he got a Rudolph teary zero. [laughter] Rudolph's drunk. [laughter] It's not easy being out the front there. He was hooked up to the slave actually. [laughter] Back to some Carl, Carl asks, "Sant has a spare bag of coal to follow Luis Suarez's post-boyding rehabilitation, so which squad member needs to get that bag of coal in the hope that they might actually improve as well?" So I think what Carl is driving at there is who needs a little bit of slap on the wrist at Christmas time. I'm going to say Mario and Skirtle, but I'll be curious to hear what other people think. Johnson, easily? Johnson, yeah. Floody Johnson for you as well. Jesus. Oh, I feel like he's taking this. Fucking Victor Moses loud. He's still in the squad. Yeah. That pass against Western. What? You know? [laughter] You say pass. [laughter] You can use the word pass very loosely there. Grays back on another one. Straight forward one. Echoes a recent query we had about, I think it was Oasis and Blur. This one, bit more. Meet behind this one. Beals or stones. You just want one more answer. If you feel the need to go on, please do. Paul, Beals or stones? Probably Beals. Beals. Andy. Beals. Floody. Beals. Phil. The stones. Me too. Me too, just to be different as well. Who knows what's going to happen there? This one's from a Craigard painting. Another topical LFC question. We've kind of touched on this as well, but it's a simple yes or no answer. It's a bit gory this one. Do we need to solve Skirtles Ireland to stop him from man-handling players in the box ahead of this game? Paul. You could just kind of put the bin on it. [laughter] It's still on our own platform. I can use this. Holy jump as well, yeah. He probably read the bin better from the bin as well. [laughter] This is how I love the idea of being in the bin for the whole game. Perfect. Even a cardboard box. You know, like, you know, like, where you had to come get his arms down by his side. So you can't get them around. So he started just running around like this. You can't really see that on a podcast. [laughter] Yeah. [laughter] Right. Last one. This is from CAF. He's at LFC, underscore CAF. He asks, "After Flannel's excitement at his first Liverpool goal, he celebrated with a domino, apparently. I did not notice. How would you celebrate scoring for Liverpool? This is going around the table. How would you celebrate scoring gold for Liverpool? Phil Casey. I just go off on the last for about four weeks. So, just what you've been doing for the last few days. Perfect. But I'd be younger so I could do it for longer. Brilliant. Brilliant, okay. Bloody. Yeah. Probably. I'd literally probably just hang the boots up and go in. Put them in the restroom. Type me off. It's not going to get better than that, is it? Yeah, yeah. It's just not going to get better than that. Type me off. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Yeah. I think when Flannel gets scored, most Liverpool fans looked at him running off to a crowd where Santa is, you know, just hanging holy shit. Can you imagine? Yeah. Can you just imagine? You know. So, yeah, he couldn't predict what you do. Anything. He could be, I love it to do anything. Well, that's it. I mean, actually the question is driving what you do afterwards. But I think, I like the idea of what you do actually on the pitch like this one. What's your top? Oh, yeah. You probably should put that up in your neck easily, you know. You wouldn't. No. You can't just run straight out of stadium. Like, you know, we should have wanted a road in your neck. Yeah. It's just as well as Flannel didn't do that on the fairness side. Oh, yeah. You know, if he wasn't that excited, he's got a fucking other career back then. I haven't got you with a torch, though, so it was, I mean. It's a poem over there. Right then. Right then. Let's finish up with a few little bits of admin. Time has always got a lovely folk here at Astro Park. They've finally saved us from our itinerant ways. And provide us with a little base for our day tripping needs. This is Dublin's finest five-aside venue. It's marvelous. So you can check them all out at astro-- www.astropark.ie. I've been asked to mention a few things as well. They're the Astro Park League, starting up at five-aside leagues. They're two different divisions. You've got experience in club standard teams and you've got social and company standard teams. There are one-hour games, weekly, eight to ten-week leagues. And you can find out more about those leagues at www.astropark.ie. And also just to mention the opening hours for the facility here over Christmas. They're open for a 27th. Open Saturday, 28th. Open Sunday, 29th. Open Monday, 30th. They're open, basically. Okay. Don't forget to get your tickets for the anatomy of Liverpool. And now you're with Jonathan Wilson, January the 12th. We've got two tickets to give away. So keep your eye on the @L Liverpool Ways Academy to find out how to win. Tickets are available at www.eventbrite.com. So get on that. It'll be about overnight. We'll be there. So you can take out your frustrations unless if you want to. Well, actually I'll stand on in case you can punch in. Like I mentioned earlier, off the back of my interview with Ian Ballagate, we have a signed hardback printers edition copy of his latest Messy. Which we will be giving away after a city match. Again, keep an eye on the @L Liverpool Ways Academy for your chance to win there. And finally, don't forget, five times I bring Dee Dee and Cara over to Ireland in February. It should be about overnight. We'll have tickets to give away for that too. And we'll be launching a competition in the middle of January. You're a day tripper tonight where Phil Casey, Damien Flood, Andy Young, Paul Brenner on myself, drive downy. We'll see you again. It was a day before Christmas. And I thought I'd have. I thought it'd be so restoring. That'd be for the moon. Suddenly I heard a strange noise down below. So when my flatter put yammer's, I went to be tall. I could see or see anything from the spot where I stood. 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Episode 14 is a xmas bumper edition. In studio we have the wonder of #hodgeyhistorypics @Brenzieaz, we have an exclusive interview with Guillem Balague on his recent book Messi, we review Cardiff and preview City and Chelsea as the league leaders look to extend their lead on the rivals into the new year. We also discuss left backs in our worst XI ever and take more listeners questions. Dont forget to get your tickets for The Anatomy of Liverpool on January 12th at www.eventbrite.com and keep an eye on @LiverpoolWays for a way to win 2 tickets to this over the chrimbo period.
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