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[MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] On tonight's show, we have a special interview with former Ireland manager, Brian Kerr, about his thoughts on the Merseyside Derby, Brendan Rodgers' performance so far, bringing youth players through, and whether or not media pressure can consciously or subconsciously affect you as you set up your team. We're joined by resident guest, Tripper James Owen, to discuss the fallout of the Merseyside Derby and what's going to happen versus hole at the weekend. We also round up our show as ever with your questions, but first up, it's the all-time 11. So we're starting to put the finish and touches to our team now with goalkeepers, defense, and midfield all selected. So tonight we begin on the attack, and we choose our first to forward. The number 10, the reserve, the man in behind in the hole, the smaller man and the big man, the little man combination. You know the deal. You know I'm trying to say. Who is the guy that you pick? What's the reserve? Tell me what the reserve is. What happened there? Just for listeners. What happened there? I had like Ron Burgundy. I had to go off script because he took my fucking script. I can't do that. I can't do that. I'm doing my 10, or the reserve. Please just go away and leave me alone. Anyway, let's go back to that. What I want you to do is pick one person from your forward combination. Ideally it would be the support struggle, or the number 10 type. Who will you go for, Steve Daley? I don't know. My one was set with two main strikers, but I think if we're going with a 10 and a main striker, I'm probably going to have to change it around a little bit. I think I'm going to have to go, I think Louis Suarez. It was very, very close for me. I probably had four strikers in there. There was Fowler, there was Rush, there was Torres and Suarez. They're the four. I think, unfortunately in a sense, if Torres had stayed maybe another season or two, he really would have been at that Fowler and Rush level of just such an idol and such a goalscoring machine. But he had started to wane a little bit in his last season with us, not being ours, being there anymore or whatever it was. I've had to chop him from it. If we're going with that formation of somebody that's going to drop, pick up the ball and want to do something, leave me with a straight choice between Rush and Fowler, which I'll decide on for next week, and Suarez playing with him. I kind of knew this was going to happen because we're going to have to talk about combinations and stuff like that. But again, if we can just focus on maybe just one person, so you're going to go with one of your three is Suarez. Yeah, Ali. Yeah, as you know, we went with an awkward formation. I had trade. I had to back in a foreign field. Didn't get to tell you what me told me the field, apparently she was. That was now. Malby and Jared, Malby just head of the lands just because he was there a long, 12 years in the club, so Malby gets to show. I would have loved him to say Malby if he was skinny. How can you do that for the football and be that fucking fat? Unbelievable. I've been doing it for a year. I just didn't show you. Someone goes over for a head of yield, I get in the sponsor for Chloeman and Hunter. Anyway, the top man, not really in number 10, but he's in behind the two strikers, and it's a famous number seven, Kenny Dalish. No brainer, absolutely no brainer. The player had it all, and they achieved a very unique thing and went in a double as a player manager. So, Kenny Dalish. You old enough to have seen him, Andy? Er, yeah. I was proud of watching. What do you fucking prayer play? You tell me I look the only. I'm proud of watching. The cheeky-looking young. I'm proud of watching videos of him as well, so absolutely Kenny. Okay, James. Er, right, okay. Er, yeah. Er, in all times terms I'd probably go with Dalish. I don't know whether it's the case of just, is it kind of players we've seen and watched in our time watch? Yeah, that seems to be the way it's part of that, James. It's somebody you've watched. Yeah, in that case then I probably shouldn't have said John Barnes last week because he was kind of very much, you know, fading. But I'll go with Jarrod. I'll go with Jarrod in that position because I probably have Tara's ahead of him in their Suarez on one flat. Yeah, I'd probably be Jarrod, yeah. Steve Jarrod, very nice. Phil. Yeah. Er, I've had a long think over this because I've been fortunate to see Peter Barry's in play for us as well in that 88, 89 team. And as I said before, that was my real introduction to the Liverpool team and that great Liverpool teams. Erm, you've got Jarrod as well. I struggled to, be honest with you, with the 11 we've picked up, I'm struggling to put Jarrod in and some people are thinking I'm mad but for me, I think. No, but I'm putting players into the positions I feel that they've won best and it boils down to who do I want? Like, if I'm going to leave out one, is it Jarrod or Suarez? Like, for me in terms of who I'm going to play, that is near impossible to decide which one you want to leave out. So, potentially I couldn't even eat in their mouth but for the 10, for that sort of hovering 9.5 support, striker-y. Did you say 9.5? Yeah, yeah, Brandon says it sounds good. Oh, I promise that. I'm going with Suarez. That's a mental disease. So, no Jarrod in your all-time 11. You still have a pick left, don't you? Yeah, you're going to tell us that Jarrod's the all-time number 9 for Liverpool, right? No. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I can't believe you've left Jarrod out of that team. Wait a moment, look at it, seriously. But listen, Suarez is only at the club two and a half years. So, how can you possibly say he's done more in that two and a half years? It's been just an all-time favorite team. Your all-time favorite 11, the players that you loved watching to play, that you want... Every time you turn on the television to watch Liverpool play, that's the players that you wanted to watch. Well, you said, that's because you hate Jarrod, but what I'm saying is... No, I don't hate Jarrod. I don't know. Just a second ago, you said in that position, you just said in that position, I have to think who played best in that position. I don't think any of us have seen Suarez play enough in that position, in that number 10, to warrant being in the all-time best 11. Well, he's not really playing as a number 10. Then, why is he playing as a fucking number 10? He's playing as that sort of drift-recentral bit. Drifting. Yeah. You're just waffling this at first. Fire being for me to come in and decide to feel your casey. Did you not pick him as a 10? No, I picked him as a 10, because Jarrod's already in my size. He's already in your size. He hasn't been sent to midfield. I didn't have him. Unlike other people, this team doesn't actually have to go out and play a match. This is exactly what I'm saying. This is exactly what I'm saying. So, playing Jarrod in central midfield, I'm not worried about him maybe losing his man. I'm just picking the fucking... No, that's irrelevant. He looks good out there. He's going in the all-time 11 every time. I'm looking at my tree behind the center for being McManaman, Suarez and Barnes. And that to me is just, that's watching sexual football. Yeah, and a defensive shield that you could... What do you need defensive shield for when that tree, when you've got masquerano, I'll be sitting there in front of you. Absolutely, because they're probably playing the shit team anyway. For me, it's Kenny, and Kenny, I'm always going to blow the whole lot now. Kenny's going to be behind Roshi and Feller, so get that up here. Let's start off with a simple question. Could you give us your thoughts on the Merseyside Derby, just the weekend past? Well, I didn't actually see each other, because I was commentating not the Irish one so much, and I only show up at some pieces of the game where it was on live on the home afterwards. I said, "Oh, wait, should it appear to be a very special game from all reports?" And, you know, they're tired of even giving the mergers. And since my teenage has come in, or both of my teenagers come in to Everton, he's changed a story that's more of a passing, more of a pension thought of game. Obviously, both of the mergers have been going the same way for the last year. So, I think we are able to take for a time going for goal, and we're the first in eight. We finished, and we thought it was going on again. So, it's a great goal. The purpose goal was amazing goal, amazing head-off, typical of them. But, it was spoke once in a situation where the reputations are still high, and what didn't do was damage to either of them. I would say they were both happy enough to get a point out of it, and say our concerns was both thinking that they should have won the game. I won't at some stage too much. And then, coming out of the time, we looked, we had to set the far point. But, no great damage done to their jumps for the rest of the season. Absolutely, probably. You mentioned that to the young mergers. Who are your thoughts on how Brendan Rodgers has progressed as far as Liverpool? Well, I think it's taken in time to have a... You had a mixed season over the set last year. There was not a lot of... I would have said that he had a time... I know you can be forced into it. But, at the time, he had too much to say about... and how he was going about things and how they should be doing things. And, still, totally needed to get on with it, you know? And, I think, this year, I did do an umbrella of as far as controversies. They're too long, and they did handle them. They didn't handle them well, obviously. And they, I think, sort of, enteredly saw the era of the race. But they still pull the worms on this way, seeing the sumo that he had asked for the transcript, and he was hoping to go to Arsenal. And they, they've, you know, they've now... They've got the benefits off. That's stubbornness. They've not allowed him gone. And he let the story, the story's playing the team. He was a good signing for them, I think, story. I know that partnership is working very, very well for them. And you'd have to say, overall, Rodgers is doing a very good job. I think he's getting, he's getting the best from, he's getting the best from a lot of players. He's hoping to hit, you know, really injured. I still not so sure I've had some of the signings today. There's a lot of money for the Spanish right up front. That's my answer. I haven't seen an awful lot in him, yes. Some of the founders who were made to be seen second. So it's been okay and we've just out at the weekend. But, you know, I'm not sure Joel Ireland, he spent an awful lot of money in Joel Ireland. And he's folks looking for Paul onto the weeks and weeks again. I know he's been no injured. But, you know, the quality of the signings apart from storage. I don't think it has been sensational. But overall, I'd say, really, he's doing well. Thanks a lot. My idea is, basically, as a very successful youth manager, I'm wondering how difficult is it to bring young players through. Liverpool, for example, have this acclaimed academy, but they still seem to struggle bringing their young players through. As someone who's had such a tremendous success yourself, what do you see as the barriers for young kids when they're trying to make the step up to being just as equally talented, first team players? Well, the biggest part here is the philosophy of the club. And the second biggest obstacle is the list for success. For short term, fixes to problems that draw in clubs, both jam and boards and then the supporters themselves. There's very little patience in the modern game of a higher level now. And there's very few clubs or managers who are brave enough to throw young players into the teams so that they're not getting the opportunity because the fixes that most clubs go for is the boy experience players mostly come abroad now and put that into the team. A lot of players from, as you know, from the French league in particular. But all the clubs are scaling forward right now. There's no very little opportunity for young players. You're kind of brave unless you play, you've got to play till and prove. And you can't man the game just for playing. You know, there's air football, which is 21 leagues. You've got to play in the fourth team. And that's the biggest problem they have because of the amount of money involved and finishing higher up the league and qualifying for your team competitions. And the trouble the clubs are in trying to pay you, starting in wages. They are trying to pay. They are not prepared to twist down young players and get them to go. So you know, this is the same as it was. It's everything in players, truly, and everybody. Last week they left fighting with Highland Gold to have the economy. Here's the maximum ball play of recent years. In identifying some of the young players that they have put into the team who've been signed for more than English girls, for small years. But they've presented, prescribed him a momentary of a staff last week as well. Yeah, absolutely. I've only held this stand out for you from that Liverpool Academy. They've come through in recent years. And a lot of them, as you say, have not been able to make it. And our first team, probably, have gone on to have decent careers at different levels. Is there anyone coming through now that you think has a real chance? Well, I wouldn't need to be all in this. A lot of staff are not that close. They're not all in this. They're not watching them. In the range football, I mean, we don't have the opportunity now to go to a number of age. It had me much as most of what I've seen now is, you know, League of Islands, Premier League, international football, the European League football. I'm not on top of the system. I don't need to be honest. On the range, much as any more. I know the Rec environment and that, so it's not a new year. It would be, you know, completely unfair at the moment. But I know there's a frustration there on all cultures and on all clubs and parents about their ranking, opportunity given to players on the game science at the top of clubs. Absolutely. We're just going to change tack a little bit. And I've just got to ask you a question about Martin and Ale and Roy Kane, and just a question about the media then and the effect that they can have on managers, and that'll be awesome. Okay. Yeah. Perfect. Thanks a lot. I'm currently away from Liverpool, from a moment. Brian, could you maybe tell us what you think of the current Irish setup, the new men in charge, Martin and Ale Roy Kane. What's your take on that? Well, my country would be that I think a bunch of them are very passionate. One of the other things that people have said about them since they got into the job, I think, and I'm not sure how the pair is going to work. They've had a nice gentle start with the two games that had handy manners on for Latvia, or one of the players, so I've been in Dublin for a while. And more out with much more like an international match in Poland last year. They stopped there, but they're all dry. I could be honest. I think the respect of who the manager of the Irish team is, we're going to be in contention any help to qualify. We usually are. We usually not too far away. The respect of that manager has been going back to all-in-homes time. We're usually in a point of two or three of qualification or play-off situation. That's gone up to 24 teams to qualify for next year teams championships. I think we'll be in there, we'll be in for probably the situation of second and towards. I think what we find is this management team would be much more diligent than the last. They'll give the job a way it's supposed to be done, where it would take on the responsibility of going and evaluating the players themselves, of staying in touch with clubs, of taking interest in Irish football, or having an interest in what's happening underneath at your underage levels. That will give them respect. We'll bring back their intentions in the world, people that lower Irish football, and give us a chance at a more successful in the future. That would be my job as well. As you said, that would be a very, very welcome changer of a ton of events indeed. Do you think, say, down the line of things that are necessarily going that well for them, that your situation where just managers in general can get influenced by constant media pressure, that maybe subconsciously affects how they set up their team selections they make? I wouldn't agree with that. They also will have the advantage. There won't be living in the islands, it won't be effective, though, by what the media is saying. The children will be experienced, people will rely on someone, long on the management side of it, but they can't afford to be affected by the media. What they think, I used to say, when people wanted to give me opinions about who they touch and play in the team, or otherwise. So, if you go to as many matches as I do, until as many training sessions as I do, then you can start telling me your opinion issues. Otherwise, there are other ways to fill in your own informed opinion, and you're why you're entitled to it, or you have to listen to it. And that's how they'll be interested in what the media are saying. They'll be a bit long on the tilt for that stuff, and they won't be swayed. They'll need your opinions on the qualities of players or tactics or other ways. Brian? Yeah, it's Stephen here. Can I just ask you a quick question? And you can then decide at the end of it whether you want to leave it in or not. You just touched on the academy there, and Frank, my partner, and stuff like that. From your point of view, obviously with the amount of success you had with the underage teams of Ireland. And I think, to be fair, you're probably unfairly not viewed as a success, or as big a success as you probably were as the Ireland manager. I think you were unfairly, you weren't given the chance that you deserve for another qualification campaign, in my opinion. But has a job at a premiership academy as the head of an academy? Or you know, you didn't get some great results with the pharaohs as well when you were with them. You know, is another international job on the horizon? Or are you just enjoying having the break and just watching a bit of footy? I would be happy to go back in to management and to go back in to football and a full-time basis if they're appropriate job or else for me. The reality of it is I haven't been offered anything. And along the lines of what you've said in relation to academies at the partnership clubs, and maybe I've been offered anything in the international field that's been exciting. But I would like to get back into that. But, you know, there's thousands of people and thousands of cultures. And I'm not precisely, you know, maybe they're qualified for what they'd like to do. And, you know, that's the case, your cargo, and what's there at the time? Well, you do what you're doing. At the moment, at the moment, I'm getting the opportunity to walk in the media with various broadcasters. And I'm enjoying the honour and doing the best I can. And that's the way I've got to be until something else comes up. If ever, so you don't know what's going to be a call or what's going to vote for you in football. But at this stage, you know, what would you ever have to restrict that it's going to be and not get a job offer that would have to be in football? Well, hopefully it will come fairly soon for you, Brian, because I think it's a waste of talent if somebody's not picking you up and using all the knowledge and the skills that you have over the years. And, excuse me, what you've shown in that time as well. So, Brian, listen, it's an absolute honor to have your take on things, Brian. I really, really appreciate your contribution to set today. Thanks, Brian. Well, we're welcome. Okay. Right, let's move along, if we could, to a review of the Derby. It was a batshit crazy football match, left us feeling a little bit confused, was it two points? Lost was it a point gained? Look, we're not sure at the talking point, so let's get it rolling by talking about, I suppose, as we usually try to do. As I usually try to do, the better things to emerge from the match. Flano, Meniele, Danny Sturge, Andy, what did you think worked well, what are the positives? Yeah, Flanagan, you've mentioned himself, Flanagan and Meniele restarted a bit of feet. Mine and him, they're like, "Yeah, that was his best performance." It's a sport-conceding tree, it's not nickel, deal, but I need him. But he was brilliant, and one-on-one, absolutely, top class. Flanagan, everybody, absolutely everybody was planking it over Flanagan. And how he played, left full, he had the performance of a lifetime. I mean, I certainly remember that Derby as the Flanagan game, because it was brilliant. Fair play did a lot. Like, I'll hold my hand up, I had to go out with him. I was actually quite happy with the setup. I know a lot's come out since about... Roger saying that he's left storage out because he doesn't feel he's fit. But I think it was a bit more to it than that. I think he picked a formation that he felt would suit the game best. And I actually think it was very round with the formation. And I won't hold Roger's accountable for the setup in the Derby. Like I did against, say, Arsenal, it was just a couple of really poor under-performers. Flanagan, it's a standout, positive for me. Thanks, Andy. James, can I bring you in here? What were the things that stood out for you as good? I certainly very much agree on those two points. You know, Minuli, I think, has ever seen... I mean, first of all, since Minuli's come in, it's been nice to have a goalkeeper who actually kind of saves a lot of things. Because, you know, Raina, for three years, didn't. I think we've all been impressed by Minuli's shot stopping, but I mean, Saturday. Looking at the way he played Saturday, unless he just played out of his skin with the one-on-ones. I actually think he might be a better shot stopper than Raina was even at his best. You know, you think of Raina between sort of 2008 and 2010. I think Minuli's actually a better shot stopper than that. The only time I can ever remember seeing Raina get anywhere near that level for one versus ones in a game was we conceived through that day, actually, as well. When Mascarone got sent off old traffic, he made a lot of good one-on-ones saves. He sort of wobbled at crosses on that day a lot. I mean, to be fair, in Rafa's team, he didn't really get exposed in that way as much as Minuli did. But no, Minuli's a shot stopper, I think it's probably better than Raina's ever been, which is saying something because Raina at his best was very, very good. Flanagan, I went fucking berserk when Flanagan appeared in the team like a lot of people. To be fair, I think a lot did, yeah. Well, yeah, but I think Flanagan's really, really, really interesting kind of almost a case study, if you like. I think he will always be limited by a lack of pace and just a lack of ability in the opposition half in terms of his Liverpool career. But you go back to people, people went way overboard about him when he came into the team under Kenny towards the end of 2010-11. You know, he came in and there's an 18-year-old, he did well, but even then he looked like he'd always be a limited player. But the thing with him was he picked up loads of bookings and just at that time, the thing he got was aggression. He just made him like a liability. Saturday, it just looks like he's come on leaps and bounds defensively, you know, in terms of his just intelligence and his position. He uses his aggression really effectively. I mean, there was one challenge where he just sort of stepped in front of him. It might have been, right, there's other morale for Coleman on the Everton right. And he's kind of stepped in and just shielded the ball from him and then just played it. His interceptions, you know, as I said, the shielding and all of that kind of thing. They just really suggest he's come on massively defensively. I mean, the funny thing with Flanagan, he's always been, he's always had quite a reliable touch and he's always been a very neat passer. And he saw a lot of that again on Saturday. It was a game that suited him because we led for sort of 56 minutes. Then we were away from home. We didn't need a lot from him in the opposition half. But it was also a difficult one for him because, you know, Morales is very quick and very direct. And he did struggle with that once or twice. And I think that lack of pace will always be a limitation for him and it's a shame in a way. Because, you know, it doesn't, we're not really the kind of team where you can get away with that. And I think there was a good point made on the APU wrap today, which obviously listened to that, but, you know, listened to us first. If you've not listened to it already, where they said, you know, it's a shame really. He kind of falls between two stalls because he's not really got the opposition half ability of the pace to be a fall back in a team like ours. 20 years ago, and the game was different. That would have been a different story. You know, you think of people like Gary Amplet. But if he was sort of four or five inches taller, he could be in the Carrigan molds to set the back. But no, I think he did extremely well. Yeah, he was, I mean, to be honest, on a day when the defence is a hole on the midfield in a certain way, we're quite poor. Yeah, absolutely. Steve, can I bring you in? Is there anything different that you could pick out? Or are you just going to maybe echo? Yeah, I would echo in the sense that I was one of those people going absolutely mental before the game, thinking how have we picked him and put him in, you know, what, left full. I really had a problem with that. But I tell you, one of the things I actually felt for 50 minutes that Lucas had a very, very good game, the way I was watching it, and him and Alan were really positive for the first 50, 55 minutes of the game. And I'll be honest, not just the miss in the sense of not putting us three one up changed the game, but the way Alan was playing changed after that miss. His head went, you know, his head went, and clearly for 15 minutes after that, he just spent his time thinking, "How the fuck did I miss that?" At the same way, everybody would if they were in that position. He opened up his body perfectly, he sent Howard the wrong way to think that he was going to square it to Suarez. And he, you know, everything, it just, he just passed that perfectly wide, you know what I mean by that. And, you know, he has to keep on running over that. His head went, I don't know whether his legs went or not, but I felt that that was definitely a positive. I liked to see that, and I would love, we were talking about it here before. I think against maybe a lesser team, maybe even Hull at the weekend, and we'll come to that. I think I'd like to see Joe Allen left in there again. I don't think we need Lucas. I think we could utilize Henderson in there with Joe Allen, and maybe like to see Stevie. I really liked what Stevie was doing in the first 50 minutes of the game. Yet again, pushed on that little bit, not having to worry about who's running past him, because he knew he had to cover the two lads behind him. As soon as he was brought in, then changed again, you know what I mean? We saw people coasting through the middle with Lucas and Gerard there again, and I'm not putting the blame on them. But, you know, that was definitely a positive for me, and Flano and Minule as well. They were very, very positive as well. Excellent. Phil, any different ideas? Yeah, and I was going to echo what Stephen said around Allen and Lucas. I actually thought we, midfield-wise, we had a fairly solid base. Given that Everton have been such, have been commended for their ability to retain possession and to dominate midfields and dominate games, even against the city and Chelsea in the games they played this season. For us, for 50-54 minutes, we nullified the much lord of the Everton midfield, and actually looked a very, very strong unit, a such which we haven't looked at all season. There was a real sense of a partnership between Lucas and Allen, and even Lucas's stupid fells don't appear until you say after the Allen bit happens, and even when Allen then goes off the pitch, they start to creep back in again. But for me, I know Suarez is just deadly to watch. And for the whole game, they were kicking him all over the shop, and he was jumping up, and he'd just get on with it. And then he's just such a lie for it, and we're talking about positives, but every time you watch this guy play, it's just electric to watch it. You can't both love watching Louis Suarez play, because that's always that sense that he's going to do something. When Morales is kicking him, when Morales goes to the back, I'm waiting for him, and then he goes over the top of him. I'm genuinely waiting for him. The switch could go here, and he could take an advertising hard and smack him across the head. You could go up and pull a chair down and smack him across the head, or what's he going to do next? But then the free kick, it's the sublime with the madness, with everything carved in. That was a fucking blind round of free kicks. No, I think you're right. The free kick was wonderful. See the way it went outside the wall and came back in. When the shoulder from right behind went out, back, and to the left. Back and to the left, what's that from? Back and to the left? Was it that chacha slide, sir? Oh, it's JFK. Back and to the left. James, what did you think of the free kick? Yeah, that was fucking magic. You know, fucking much else, sorry. You know, it was just a really, really well executed kick. I mean, it was precision. I think they were maybe slagging the wall a little bit because they don't know what Pina is doing there. No, I know what Pina was doing. They were expecting it. If there was a short roll, if it was shifted, he could get out. Instead of him being on the inside, he was on the outside to try to prevent that from going around. Well, because it was, he should really have jumped into the wall. But he didn't, he sort of stayed and left the gap and I went through the actual gap. You can't not watch Liverpool, not watch Louis Suarez and not be just transfixed by this fellow playing the Redfrost. It's his overly dramatic with everything as well. Like, I'm not saying he wasn't hurt. And he really did look hurt. You know what I mean? But I thought this is a career ender. Is he out for the rest of the season now and after this match? He was limping before it. You can see the holes in the back of his leg. He's limping across. Next minute, like five minutes later, he's tearing across the pitch to go through. He gets got it. He's just, he's just wonderful to watch. He can't watch football and not love watching him. Yeah, but I love about him as he, and I know that player of scars, he goes for the air. You know what I mean? And I suppose what went down to somewhere you were worried he wouldn't have the same sort of enthusiasm. But like, it's, it's there to fault this season. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like he's more than ever. Doesn't he? Yeah, well, I suppose from the sublime, the weak sort is too, the ridiculous of some of the things we did see. Our set pace defense again, us getting killed by a big man, Scarlet Niagara in particular suffering, as usual. What were the big negatives for you, Steve? One of the, one of the things actually I picked up on, and I was, I was saying to lots of people, but nobody seemed to be responding to me on, on Saturday. I can't understand how, I can't understand how Suarez stayed on the pitch the length of time that he did. Or at least upfront on his own, the length of time that he did. Because I think we're talking about that 55, 60 minute mark for when Alan, his head went and whatever else. Once he had that injury and came out in the second half, we did lose that pressure from the front. Okay, he stopped, he was walking, he was trying to reserve it because his knee was fucking hurting him. He was trying to reserve whatever energy or whatever he had in the tank to make a positive impact on the game if he could. But we lost one of our fundamental points is, and that's the pressure from the front, and make sure that we don't, that Everton back for had all the time in the world to walk out with that ball, because no one was applying pressure to them. And it killed me that took the length of time it did for things to be changed. Bringing Victor Moses on was, you may as well have brought me on, he was pants. You know, he was, he was just, and I know every week it's like I pick a different person to slate. But you know what, there's a good reason for it, because every week I see somebody that's shot and shouldn't be on the pitch. And for me bringing Moses on, instead of storage, if storage was good enough for 15 minutes, he was good enough for 25 minutes. And we all know that. So why bring Moses on there? Why not bring storage on? You know, I just don't get it, that was a negative for me. And the silly stuff, like Lucas losing, you know, the goals we conceded were so silly and schoolboy level, you know what I mean? Even our lack of reaction to when Minule makes that save for the, for the, for Lukaku's first goal, that save that Minule makes, we don't respond to it. Minule has to get back up off the ground and go out and try and chase down one of their players and then get himself positioned. Why aren't we reacting to that? That's a fucking 35 yard shot, or a 30 yard shot probably, that was taken. Why are we not switched on to that? And just putting that out into the, you know, into the Bullens, the Bullens Road or the Bullens, whatever it is, the name of the stands. Just the Bullens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But why does it not go on there? You know what I mean? Instead of them actually being on the front foot. James, talk to me about your impressions of how we got our arse handed to us by Lukaku. Well, I think first of all, we're talking about the negatives. I think we've missed a couple positives. Oh, yeah. Yeah, one, which is that, you know, there was a lot wrong with Jarrah's performance, I think. But again, he's set up at least one goal and, well, I suppose there's a flick on from Suarez, I think, the Coutinho as well. Isn't there the first? But set up another goal with one of those deliveries from the right hand side for the free kick. For storage, I think that puts him on four set pieces this season, which for this stage of the season is a heck of a lot. You know, his set piece delivery has just gone through the roof now. There's a lot else wrong with Jarrah's performance that we can talk about. But, you know, that alone makes, aside from even the captain scene who he is, makes the case for just trying to find a way to keep him in the team where we can. And the person who scored from that set piece with storage, heading is one of the smaller number of areas where storage can actually make a major improvement. And he said, after the Sunderland game, when he tried to head a ball and then scored off his arm, that he's been working. So, that header on Saturday was really impressive from someone who's basically not been that good with his head. But, I mean, we got in the agenda, haven't we, that Skirt and Aga got bullied by Lukaku? I don't think the problem was so much that they got bullied because I don't think Abbittson really kind of got the ball forward in that fashion. I think it's more, just the fact that time and again, the guy was in space. I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but, you know, they're too sent about to mark him one striker. Okay, Barkley's a very dangerous player playing just off him. But you've got three central midfielders in front as well. So why, why time and again is Lukaku picking the ball up with so much space? I mean, his movement was good with Kakao and he's a very, very good player. But they weren't catastrophic algorithm, but I just, they don't convince me and I would have liked. In the end, the issue of being bullied wasn't actually that much of a problem, but I was surprised Sako didn't start. And to be honest, I'd be looking at just, I'd like to see what Tori and Sako do as a partnership myself. They just come up short for me. They just come up short too often for me against, you know, against battle players. Yeah, I think, I think there's a lot of people in agreement there, Phil. Yeah, emphasis on James' point around the center half. So I was pulling my fucking hair out. I said it last week, I said, well, I wouldn't have started scared because at some stage, all he wanted to do was wrestle the player. And on the force goal, what's he doing? He's fucking wrestling the player instead of trying to just head the ball. The ball comes in. If he ignores a man and with the size of him, he could have just gone up and head the ball. He said he didn't. He wrestles your man, doesn't even get anything on it. The ball drops. And then Gerard is turned off at the back post. The most annoying part about that is that he was looking at Morales and then turns off and looks inside and then loses him for half a second, which gives Morales the thing. That's bad enough. But every time we play a big strong center forward last year, and we had Skirtland agar, they got bashed, right? And they just couldn't handle him. It was, whether it was Bintake, it was Lukaku, every time we went up against a big striker last year, the two boys couldn't handle it. So you're thinking, going into this game, Rogers was manager then. So we can't run around, so it was a different manager. Surely he sees it himself. He sawing the likes of Sacco and Torei to give us that power and to give us the ability in the area that we don't have at this stage. So to not play them in that game, it baffled me. But Johnson, fuck me. I want to punch him in the head. The chat was asleep for half the game. He had one of those games where... He was on ball feed. Do you know what James? Seriously, I remember last year at one stage. It was like he was walking around with lead in his boots and he couldn't pass the bar four yards. He couldn't, as much as he deserved to play as the previous couple of weeks for the performance he put in, he had one of those performance where he was completely torn off. You just wondered at times, did the players think that once they get a good run of form and a good few games, that they're just going to torn up? I can't think that to be real, but you just wonder what's going through their heads when they walk out, you know, Derby. Even Girard's performance, Girard was pawning for like 70 minutes of the game. Then for the last 20 minutes, in fairness to him, he pulled a finger out of his arse and did something in the last 20 minutes. When we did concede the goals, he was the instigator in a lot of the go things that have happened. Boy, Jesus, for 70 minutes. I know he said last week, I said, "The one player that I wouldn't leave out at that team was Stephen Girard going into the Merseyside Derby, because the best version of Stephen Girard is generally the one that turns up in the Derby." He had his worst derby that I can remember. Yeah, I looked at the fourth 25 minutes. She's the one that he put in the calculator straight through. Negative for me, I mean, like, it was an incredible amount of ball that Johnson got. Not just as defence of a derby, but we've seen how bad he was for the goals. But with the ball, we've seen such a difference in the Johnson that played against Fulham when he was absolutely exceptional on the ball. He constantly gave the ball away. James, you were saying he was on morphine or something? He played like he was on morphine. Oh, he played like he was on morphine. Well, he did. He did. He did. He played like he was on gear. [LAUGHTER] It was terrible. I mean, at the start of the game, obviously, they're talking about who's going to pick up Lukaku from set pieces. Not even those money scholars lay on. When the fourth goal was conceded, when... Karkie, I mean Karkie, he's out to head the ball on the ground basically and scared us jumping all over. And Agar has, or not Agar. Henderson has cement on his ankles and he does a kind of a gesture of a jump and the ball just drops. But if you look behind, there's Lukaku and Johnson's getting attracted to the ball again. Totally oblivious to what's going on. And it was the same crack with the goal where Johnson's completely switched off and Flanagan makes a half effort. But that poor goal, I'll watch it again today, right? Do you know how Lukaku loses Johnson? He doesn't show him, I think, he does this. It's like he put his arm across his chest. Didn't push him, I think, earlier it was put his arm across the chest. And Johnson looks at him. Johnson actually turns and looks at him. Instead of fighting back, he just turns and looks at him. It's like, what are you doing? Yeah. You're a big fella. [LAUGHTER] They happened on a bit with Jared out there. I mean, I think he was playing with an injury as well. There was a couple of occasions it was so on like Jared. I remember he had an attack and he kind of, the ball kind of got lost under his feet. And it was so on like, you know, he was, I mean, he lost a ball a lot as well. But he was still there. The Hoyt has completed a pass around the pitch on the day. So he must have done something right. But I mean, it's ball. What he can do and what he can offer the team. I mean, it's ball that Suarez showed the score from. Suarez just has to hit it either, so it's off the goalkeeper and it's in. The half body crass. Absolutely on back. That's not afraid about that. Yeah, there's not too many players in the world that can do it. Yeah, I think we were talking about Johnson there. And I think there was a huge amount of hype, not just from some of our own lads here. But other lads as well, talking about him being an amazing, amazing player. I think his game on Saturday proved why he's an above average fullback. But he's not our most intelligent player. He's not an amazing fullback. That's one of the best. He's not a good defender. He has the ability to be exceptional going forward. And as Andy said to me, he just doesn't have the right level of awareness. And we were talking about fullbacks like Gary Ablitt and people like that back in the day. That sort of shit would never happen with them. It just wouldn't happen with them. Can I just touch on a couple of other negatives there? Sorry, it was. Oh, he wasn't all too keen on the performance of Lucas and Alan in the midfield. The Joe Allen that we want to see is a Joe Allen that we see him to the start of the last season when he was exceptional in the ball in very, very tight spaces. And he was able to get a bit of space and move the ball. Like there was no Joe Allen with a football the weekend. It was okay. He got in the way a couple of times and he was tactically, he was good. But all you don't think is a partnership in the middle. Like the possession, the way Liverpool just couldn't retain possession. And if you look at completed passes from ball players, it was very poor. Can I say something about this? Go ahead, James. I think it's a really good point about Alan, I think. Joe Allen, he's not a pure, he's not a destroyer. Because he proved on Saturday, he's not someone who's going to, he's not going to contribute goals. He's not really going to be someone who's necessarily going to sort of play with the people in to score that much. Not being in the case. You know, I don't care if it's a mostly side derby and if we're away from home or if we're against a team like Everton who keep the ball well, he only attempted 25 passes in about 70 minutes on the pitch. And he gave away six of them, which puts him at 76% pass completion. Now you can get caught up in statistics, obviously there's a hell of a lot that statistics don't tell you. But by any measure for a player, he's proved to be there. And has been put in there for this game specifically to enable us to keep the ball a bit more. He's just not contributing enough. On that, you know, in that respect, he just didn't contribute enough. You know, he wasn't, I don't know whether he wasn't just maybe not shown for the ball as well as he could or not. But I think the bigger, the bigger issue for me, you know, apart from not retaining the ball as well as perhaps, perhaps could at times. Particularly when you think, you know, we were, as I said, we were leading 56 minutes of that game in total. And generally when you lead, particularly away from home, as a general rule team, you have less of the ball. The bigger issue for me was just what happened when we lost the ball, because so vulnerable on the count of a time. Time and time again, I mean, how many of these saves that Minilay made were just because we were, we were a falling set and just, you know, positioning it. And the way we were set was dreadful when the ball turned over. Time and time again, that was a problem. And it resembled to an extreme degree, like a more extreme form of what we saw in the early months of Roger's tenure last year. When the ball turned over, we were vulnerable straight away. James, do you not think that maybe Alan was asked to do a tactical role on Saturday? You know, I got the feeling that you're talking about how many of those 1v1s were first half compared to second half? You know, the vast majority of the saves Minilay made were second half saves. When Alan had gone off the pitch and it was back to the Lucas Gerard Central midfield partnership, we look at even when Gerard lost a lot of his possession. He dropped deep nearly into our own half when he wasn't meant to be there, ultimately, in the first half, in those first 25 minutes. Now, this isn't me, Slade and Gerard, but what I'm saying is we're talking about Joe Alan having been, you know, sort of a low pass attempt rate and not a great pass completion rate, which absolutely are valid points. But the point is, in that combo of him and Lucas, I think they did a job, they each did a job that worked quite well, and we were on top at that point. Just to put in there, I think the truth lies somewhere in between. I think Joe Alan was tactively defensively, he was where he was meant to be in terms of covering space and preventing, say, the quick counterattack that happened more. Stop on my car at the end of the second half. But I think James' point in terms of his use of the ball, which is what we were told, we signed him for, in terms of what he can do, and the whole lot was poor. As Moibit was, I just thought, I could see in Lucas and Alan, a more tactically cohesive partnership in the sentiment field in terms of being able to cover space in the whole year. Use of the ball wasn't great, but you could just see something that could possibly work there. Yeah, I'd like to see Alan given another shot next week versus Hall. Well, as we're speaking about possible options there, what do we make of Jan and Villa in the crowd? What's our feeling on that? What's we feeling on it? Is it something you'd like to add to the team basically? I don't know how much you're building to be honest with you. I don't know how much you can read until I'm being there as a guest. I'm sure his club wouldn't be too happy if they felt he was there on business. I don't know whether it's any point in talking about until January when we can snatch the title transfer. I haven't seen him since he left France. He's a very talented bloke. He had personal problems, mental problems, I think Arsenal looked at him and then pulled away because of it. No, he would be theoretically an upgrade on what we have in the midfield at the moment. I don't know. I think we'll read. I see suddenly there's rumours going around that we've started to talk some the whole lot. I think again it sounded because he turned up. It's like the Papadopoulos rumours and that he was a don't dare yet he's still a child. So I don't know. Okay, one other quick thing I wanted to speak about as well. It's got to be mentioned. Mr Morales and his challenge and how that ties in with Phil Dowd's decision making. Steve, do you have any strong opinions about how the Morales tackle should have been dealt with? Well, listen, I think we all know exactly. Two of my best mates are Everton fans and they said exactly the same. It was a red all day long, but Gerard's come out today and said from where he saw it he was thinking it was a yellow. And he said he was pretty much beside where Dowd was at the time. So, from that point of view, it depends. It's like every challenge. It's like the way his brown one. Another ridiculous decision and we don't need to get into that. But I'm just saying it just happens and there's not much can be done about it. Morales knows it was a bad challenge. What I thought was a bigger shame was that Morales on three different occasions. Elbowd Henderson, he put the challenge in on Suarez and then later on he actually attacked Suarez. He went over the top at the sideline. That was two yellow cars. There were two yellow cars and three challenges there. And in my opinion, that's where Dowd really let himself down. He was getting commended in the papers for keeping 11 players on the pitch. He's not there to keep 11 players on the pitch. He's there to employ the rules. It doesn't matter if he keeps 11 players on the pitch. You're not a good ref because you didn't send anybody off today. You don't want to see needless and stupid bookings and red cards either. But for me, Dowd's performance was OK. Apart from that one incident whereby Morales should have seen red and the repetitive fellow. I think he kept the game flowing as best he could. I don't think there was any other ridiculous decisions or really poor decisions that he made. So the way a ref should be probably out of it most of the game. Fair enough. James, any take on Morales or Phil Dowd for me? Yeah, but a strong opinion on it. Same opinion as everyone else. It was a clear red card, no debate. And I think beyond that, I think, and again, he's committed two yellow car challenges at least after being booked when he shouldn't have been on the pitch anyway. So you've got to ask what Dowd's doing there. The other issue here, I think, is the fact that when people talked about, you know, there was a bit of talk at the start of the scene that they were supposedly changing the rules on not being able to sort of issue retrospective punishments when a referee has kind of dealt with something and has had a good view of it and sort of, say, issued a yellow card. Well, apparently a qualified referee was telling me earlier that basically the FA's hands are tied because of Dowd. I mean, what does that say about the regulations? That has been that much change. That's his understanding of the new regulations. Yeah. That's incredibly stupid because that is, you know, it's a clear red card, as you'll see. Yeah, it's frustrating as hell. Yeah, it is. Right, let's move on to our preview of the whole match. Straight forward, what does our team look like, Phil Casey? I'm hoping that we see SACO back into the team. I'd like to see the SACO worker combination at some stage just to see if it works. And I think against the whole... Well, for whole, anyway, they'll go 4-5-1 and they've done the same thing against Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, all this season, they've set up the exact same way and they've put five across the midfield and they've looked to sit deep and try to play on the counter effectively and maybe win three kicks up around the Edge of the 18-yard box and make something off set pieces, which hasn't worked. So I don't see Steve Bruce changing the way he's going to come. So for me, I'll keep Joellen in. I wouldn't play Lucas. These are the games that we need to ride in there for, as well, for what he can do. And I'd have Suarez and Storage back in. Do we do continue? I'd like to see continue come back. I think we lose so much of him when he's playing on that left-hand-side position. I thought he was pretty anonymous after 10 minutes on Saturday. Andy, how do you see the team shaping up? Yeah, I think they go back to similar setup as it was against Fulham. It's not too, too, too quite a thing. Flannigan, I'd say, will maintain his place. He's done enough, he's done more than enough to keep a place in that team. It's a really, really huge opportunity now for Flannigan to have a career. Liverpool, Enrique's out till February, probably March, but the time he plays football again. And this is probably his last chance, really, with Liverpool. I'd like to see him maintain his place anyway. Hopefully, we see the Johnson of Amarillo's team. At the back, I'd say he'd probably stick with Agar and Scaredly. He didn't drop Scaredly for the threat of Flukaku. He's not going to drop him now. James, do you see many changes? I think what's interesting is for the first time this season when it comes to Premier League games, it's going to be a question of whether or not you want to rotate. Is it West Hamlet and Orange playing in midweek? Yeah, we're playing Orange and Chews, isn't it? Yeah, it must be Wednesday, because I think we're at Hall on Sunday, aren't we? That's right. Yeah, I'd like to see Tour ain't something I've got to say about myself. I'd just like to see that partnership. Maybe that won't happen. I'd be surprised if it happens. I'd like to see Tour ain't something. That's the way that you play Flannigan again. You know, Mille and Johnson picked themselves, even though Johnson was dreadful on Saturday. I mean, I was as impressed with Flannigan as anyone, but I wonder if one or other of the games, because obviously they're quite close together. Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Agra at left back. I mean, Agra's frustrated me at centre back because I just think too often he just looks like he looks half-assed. He's not concentrating. But I wouldn't mind seeing what he could offer at left back. I mean, that depends on what kind of opponent he's up against. You know, as he up against, you know, holding out someone fairly sort of quick and good at dribbling up against him, because I think, you know, you put that up against the natural centre back and you can have bad results. You know, Flannigan, for example, is not quick, but he is at least a full back. Yeah, well, look, I'll tell you in terms of midfield. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. You would hope, Alan. Yeah, sorry. No, go ahead, Dave. No, go ahead. In terms of midfield, you know, how do you choose to rotate? I don't know, because, you know, you'd imagine Alan's going to get some more paint up, because, you know, we've got games, then again, Rodgers in much one for rotate. I think you have to go with Suarez in storage. I certainly want to start Coutinho again as well. So maybe just, you know, maybe you'd rotate it a little bit with midfielders. I don't know. Maybe, you know, like what the last said, you know, you'd probably look us up. Because Jared isn't going to get dropped, does he? No, I don't say that. Let's look at Hull and the threats, Dave, my post to us. Phil, you've been doing some homework. Yeah, did we, but I'm walking Hull on a big fat heads team and trying to figure out what they have and what they don't have. To be honest with you, when you look at the team and you look at the names that are involved in the team, it's like, it's a rogues gallery, a parmach chite in there. And you've got... Definitely going to score. No. You've not said that about Jellivitch this year. That's right. That's right. And they have your man, Liam Rizzin, you're in there, and then you're looking at... What's your man? Livermore. Livermore and Huddleston in the centre midfield. And on looking at that, I'm thinking back to Fulham again, and they're both... That's the same level of mobility that Sidwell and Parker have in the centre midfield. It's part of the region. The one thing I'd say is they do have a lot of width. They're using Robbie Brady down one side, and they own Emma Hamadee down the other side. And then they have this guy called Sagpo, who's played it, who's come in a lot for it instead of Danny Graham that's played up there. And they may look to go long to him and Troy get worried and get in behind their fallbacks. Exploiting the fact that their fallbacks will be pushed well on. But to be honest with you, an algae respect, because Hull have done really well. And fairness to Bruce, when he's torn up an outfield, he's rarely, rarely fucking come away without a point or something like that. Especially on the Rafa, he couldn't beat him at all. It's not your way. We're away, are we? Yeah, it's not an outfield. All right then, Graham, I'll just let it that out. So at least when we're away, they'll be forced to come out against us. They'll be forced to come out against us, and they'll have to take together. So in reality, I can't... You shouldn't be worrying about that at all. Yeah, I'm not worried about it. We're actually coming off that game, in my mind, with a lot of mental strength, because we could have lost the game a tree too. We've seen our heads go older times, but we fucking dug deep and we got a point out of it. Whether you like it or not, and we should have won it then after after we... That's a change in mentality from last season. It's picking up points where your last points before certainly make a difference. The difference between making top four and not making top four, I feel. I'd rather think that air threats will be more overconfidence and potentially silly mistakes as opposed to what Hall composed as a real threat to us in this game. So you're saying we're more of a threat to ourselves? James, is there anyone in particular you'd be worried about in the whole lineup? Paul McShane now, another Phil's half fan. Absolutely, yeah. I think for us, shouldn't we? So anyone who's not seen it, there's a wonderful, wonderful 10-minute compilation of Paul McShane's, you know, hits on YouTube. Paul McShane's bed, brilliant. You will be scratching your head at how somebody just that, you know... It moves at a absolutely funeral pace, and you're just wondering how the hell does that come from first of all? It's nice, pretty, but anyway, no. You know, go to the point. No, I mean, there doesn't look to be an abundance of quality there, and the one player who's maybe got a bit of class about him that you would look at is Tom Huddleston, and you know, one thing Huddleston at least isn't, which is a problem for us in the middle of the pitch, is particularly mobile, so, you know, just get him to run after him or something. Yeah, I have to agree with you, though. I think he is, and fairness to the kid, he is a classy footballer. Yeah. I hope the lad's talking about his mobility, but he is a good footballer. He's got the mobility in the, you know, in the appearance of Alice in Hammond, big brother. LAUGHTER That's a show, Danny. I think what I do think as well, I mean, I think what Phil said about Steve Bruce, I don't think, you know, he's in my line figure, because, you know, he's got a head like a sort of a desirate potato with a sort of a bad thing on him. I'm not leaving here, these weren't pre-written, I'm just... This is gold, mate, this is gold. Yeah. The whole rush you've been beaten prior to Saturday, I mean, they're not playing you one decent, and they just got beat by a pilot, so they can't be that great. But I don't think they are, I don't think you're typical relegation fodder. I think there's not a lot of quality there, but, you know, Steve Bruce, as I said, he's a bit of a maligned figure, but I think he does know what he's doing. You know, we can't take him too lightly, because, you know, the point I always met was Steve Bruce's. You know, Roberto Martinez is really highly rated, you know, Martin O'Neill by some people, lesser than he was, but still, it's quite highly rated. Those two succeeded him at Wiganen at Sutherland, and they both did worse in the league than Steve Bruce did there. Yeah. But, no, I mean, it doesn't stand out as being a lot of quality there. No, I mean, saying that now, I'm probably going to concede loads of stupid goals and set pieces again, but, you know, it's not a team that sort of screams individual threats. Well, I'm deeply uncomfortable with how positive we're being about Steve Bruce and his big fat head. So can we move on to make some predictions? I'll keep you on the line there, James. How do you see it gone? Well, I mean, having said all of that, and again, you know, sort of, tried to fall, tried to come before the fall, and I thought I'd got the old sort of biblical thing the wrong way around them, but I think, I think, I think you've aced it there, yeah. Yeah. I think, basically, all of the sort of team we expect to turn over now, or that we, you know, we've become good, you know, beating that level of team, and we ought to. So, I mean, I'll say, we'll probably concede the stupid goal to set pieces. I'd say, whole city Tigers won Liverpool three. Whole city. Lovely. Lovely. Steve Delly. Yeah, I think, similar to James there, it was actually pissed off at the weekend. I thought it was going to nail my prediction when I claimed 3-1 and I was sending off when Morales nearly went. I thought, here we go, and then Joe Allen came in as well. This week, I think another Fulham's on the cards. I think we can go there. I think we can dominate. I think, yeah, again, there is that lack of mobility in the middle of their park. Listen, I'm basing my prediction on what I'd like to see us line up like. I think if we lined up that way and had that level of mobility in our centre, the field, we'd easily beat them. I think we'll beat them by three goals. That's my feeling. Lovely pass the bandi. Yeah, like, I know we've been finding it easier to beat the lower teams now, but a whole lot of outside it all. They've picked up some good results along the way this season so far. But I'm not going to be down the don'ts about it. I'm just afraid of a bit of a hangover after such an intense game in the Derby. Yeah, but I'd be confident enough to say that we should brush them so it's handy enough. Possibly two. Two, three, nail. Lovely. I'm not going to go back to being a gloomy bastard. I think this might be a bit of a banana skin for us. So I'm not awfully positive, Phil. How are you, Phil? Well, I'll be there until last week, so I'm staying four on the other hall. Thank Christ for that. Christ for that. Let's delve into our listeners' questions and get a little bit of feedback from the people who do you listen to us. Our first question today is from Marco Lopez. He's @footymarkall on Twitter, and he asks, "You are a pointed manager of Man United Football Club, but you're a double agent for Liverpool. How do you sabotage the enemy?" James, I'm going to offer this one up to you. San Andi, Carol, Stuart, Downing and Charlie Adam. That's just crazy, Todd. Who did that? How much did you spend on those tricks? Oh, about 63 million probably. You'd give me some time. Give me some time. James, give me a taste. This is just lovely. Let's move on to our next one. Oh, would you windy at Carlin Cup? There'll be a few days out probably, yeah. A few days out. Okay, next question's from Karl Fitzgerald. He's @cgfitsjan. He asks, "Have you ever left or switched off a red match before the end?" I'm actually going to take this because every time I go to a match, I find myself absolutely fucking murderous, looking at nom nuts, getting out of seats, and leaving before the game is over, I detest it. I hate it. What are you doing, you idiot? Where are you going? You're out of football match. Has anyone else got... We're going to the pub. Why are they going to... Because they want a good seat. And I'm not even messing about that. You understand where I'm coming from. That's absolutely disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. For years, I went to the Derby in Goodison every year because, as I was saying earlier, two of my mates... 'Cause you're an Everton fan too. I'm a secret blue. No, but two of my mates are Everton fans, so it made sense and it was easier to get tickets for the Goodison games. And every year, you would see a horde of people, at least at max... Or sorry, the most I would get to would be 85 minutes, and there'd be 10, 15% of the ground gone. And I used to ask the lads, and the thing was, they were going to the pub. And listen, it's all well and good, I suppose, in a sense, for us. We are the day trippers. We go there, we've made an effort to go over. Maybe, listen, if I was going every week, there's possibly a chance that I five minutes to go before the end, and that's how time to match. I'd have got up and fucked off. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I've often seen our fellow day trippers amongst the guilty parties leaving, to be honest. Anyway, next question from this for you, Phil, is from Damian Flood at Damon Flood 32, and he asks, "Who's going to win? I'm a celebrity, get me out of here." Erm... Katie Catona, I don't know. Joe Asics. I haven't watched a single minute of a podcast. All you can hear about people talking about is Joe Asics, so he has to have the public. Your man, Will Smith, heal it. Yeah, brilliant. That's wonderful. That's also kind of the issue. [LAUGHTER] I'm so dead, boys! OK, we'll call it. Do you know what? Just 'cause you get out the way, Brendan, I'm straight back to you, 'cause this is actually aimed at you anyway. I know. This is from Joe Kane at Meath Poor League, and he says, "How soon can we ship out Joe Allen? We could theoretically ship him out in January or in the summer if Brendan Rodgers has lost faith in him." And he's been fairly ruthless when it's common to players that he's lost faith in, thinking you already sat here and think about also the likes of Alice Aselka getting dumped. So, to be honest with you, Trev, he could be gone as soon as the summer, if he's seen as not providing what actually Brendan Rodgers needs. And one thing about Rodgers is he's been fairly ruthless when it's come to transfers. Like, look, where's Bernie at the moment? He's sitting at the bench just on the land. Okay. Next one up, Andy, we'll go to you with this one. This is from Molly at Molly BTK on Twitter. He says, "As Irish Reds, which win means most yet? The win against Everton or win against United?" That's an easy one. I suppose, as being from Dublin, you've got so many annoyed fans not hanging around, so it has to be annoyed. I never really had the hatred for Everton. I mean, when I really fell in love with Liverpool, when I went over as a kid and watched the game, I talk to people over there who are brilliant. And I think some of the banter, like, the Everton fans come across with the Liverpool fans. It's quite funny sometimes. I mean, they have lots of practice out there because it's all they really have. It's the banter and the slagging, you know, the trophies are out like that. So, they've got really good at the banter. So, I don't have the hatred for Everton. They give me a laugh. They give you a laugh. Yeah. You know. Okay. Which is an element of the fact that most of us have been Liverpool fans as well. They've never really been a threat, whereas, you know, they've been dominating it. So, there has to be an element of that. Yeah. Every time we have these conversations, I always feel like such an old bastard because I remember in the air threat. Anyway, right. You are an old bastard. I am an old bastard. Next one. James, I'm going to come back to you. This is really, really short and sweet. So, sausage roll asks on the red or steak and kidney pie. I'm about to show you. So, that worked out well. James, you know, make friends with salad mate. Don't make friends with salad. James, you didn't know that. I stitched them up with that one. I did not see that coming to you. Listen, just, come on. Give me a theoretical answer here. It may be something to throw. I don't know. What are you thinking? Say it's a corn sausage roll. There you go. A corn sausage roll. It's probably sausage roll. Oh, yeah. I just got to make things for a piece of that. That's another plug for him. Okay. No, sorry. All right, Katie. Absolutely stitch up, Martin. This is from Gray not David at Red Forever 71, he says. If you could only eat one of the following things for the rest of your life, which would you choose? Chocolate, cheese or apples? Who are you asking? I'm asking you Phil. Chocolate? Yeah. That's what you're talking about. You're in-depth. Reasons flat. 'Cause it tastes you and the other two. Look, fucking cheese or apples. Come on, man. Chocolate. I like apples. I love lamb. I had to put as a cafe on. Another one from Deimo Floyd for you, Steve. He says, "On a scale of zero to all sweet lantern in Jesus, how of where does Alan's miss rank?" Yeah, listen. We know, there was people talking about it being up there with Rosenholz miss. It wasn't anywhere close to that. He's still at the keeper to beat, albeit him having probably sent them the wrong way. Well, it wasn't an open goal, but it was very, very poor. I'll be honest with you, it wasn't like he ran into 40 yards of space one-on-one with the keeper. It was a bit of a tussle where it banged off a knee and whatever else, and it basically broke to him. He didn't get a lot of time to think about it. But if he's got a bottle of oil, he's got the property and decide for it to Luis. Why doesn't he do what I'd like to do and just smash it over the bar from about three yards out? You actually nearly have to flick it up and kick it over the bar, I do it that well. But honestly, in that sense, yeah, it was a terrible miss. And it's a killer miss because it changes the game. And it would have been the three points, them dead and buried, and us really on a fucking march at that point, two points behind Arsenal and clear of everybody else. And that's what the thing that will arc us most is because it lets them back into the game. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, producer boy here has put Toronto's weight around as usual. He wants this question from Vincent at Vincent Leggett, who asks, "This is quite involved, so bear with me." Say you're a student at a party, but they've run out of mixers, which it's happened to us all. You drink vodka, but you can't take it neat. So do you mix it with A, tap water, B, milk, or C, mouthwash? I've experienced a mouthwash and gin when we were over at the Liverpool around Madrid, match in Madrid. It's actually quite nice. Seriously? I've experienced that as well, believe it or not. I'm so gang of scone bags away from here. It's not nice. I remember trying to stroll a bit of a gaga from yeah, me man, that was a drink parlor and there. The only bottle in the house was just to empty out the milkwash. And they just kind of gave it a rinse and fucked the gin and shit. Oh, what kind of milkwash was it? We had green listerine. My mind was green as well. I was nice. No, it was greeny blue. No, this was the greeny greeny green. Green green. You're helping them for mint fresh or something. But the thing with Rafa, the neat is on the line there. Now where Suarez would have been a player that you would have liked to see at Liverpool when you were there. What did you think of the free kick Rafa? Yeah, I think it's a really good goal. You know, when you talk about Suarez, you're talking about A who can score every kind of goal. Scoring from in the box, he's scoring with the left foot, the right foot. He's scoring with the free kicks, he's scoring the air. He's a player who will work really hard, so he is a really good player. Rafa, could you give us your opinion on Steve Bruce's big fat head? Perhaps. Yeah, I feel you can see it's really big. It looks like a big potato on all of us, so you have it. It's like you just put a really cheap wig on top. So yeah, it's really not good. Rafa, what's your take on Minula? Is he better than Rainer or is Rainer the better goalkeeper at this stage? Yeah, he has come in here, he's been doing really well, he's been serving some goals. I think you can see he can improve his feet. Rainer is really good with this, he's really good with the ball, he can throw the ball, he's really good passing the ball. And Minula can't improve with this, but I think he's doing well. And just finally Rafa, I'm just wondering how excited you were to finally meet me a few months ago in the Audi club over in the Grand Canal Taylor. It was good, no, you remember? Yeah. We shared an embrace, that's brilliant man, thanks a lot. That's nice, that's a nice way to end this. Right, okay, let's give a big thanks to the Astro Park Tallah for allowing us to space the record tonight's podcast, another home for us and our itinerant ways. This is a well-known top spot for all your five or so needs every weekend, so get on the website. It's www.astropark.ie, and you get as many details as you need there. Big thanks to James Owens for coming on again. He's followable @_m11 in the Twitter verse. Remember to rate and review the pod on iTunes, spread the word of the day trippers, far and wide, please. World Domination is our goal and we're unabashedly serious about this. Your day trippers tonight were Brian Kerr, James Owens, Phil Casey and the young, Steve Daly and myself, Trev Downey. We'll see you next week. Time to fire up the grill. Time to go to Total Wine and find the perfect flavor to pair with those burgers. Ooh, I love their beer cooler. You love their prices even more. Wonderous selection, helpful guides, ridiculously low prices, Total Wine and more. All this week on NBC4, new products to new technology, Susan Hogan is showing you how local restaurants are changing the way we dine in and take out in this new world tonight at 6. A new twist on outdoor eating. A lot of it is creating flexibility. How one local restaurant is making their outdoor space mobile, giving you plenty of sunshine and social distance for a stress free meal. 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Epsiode 10 comes at you like a train. At 1hr and 10mins long we have a bumper pod where we make our 10th pick in our all time XI. We speak with Brian Kerr on the merseyside derby, brendan rodgers, bringing youth through and difficulties involved, the Monkeano appointment, can media pressure affect team decisions in his opinion and what his future holds.We are joined by our resident UK guest tripper James Owens aka @_Maleven to discuss the merseyside derby madness and look forward to Fathead Bruce’s charges on the weekend and the likely troubles they bring. Finally we round up with our favourite part of the pod your questions and have a quick interview with another very special guest #FACT and you will have to listen in to hear who it is. Big thanks to www.astropark.ie for giving us another new home.The audio on the Brian Kerr interview is slightly different to the rest of the pod as we had...
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