(upbeat music) - ♪ Relievable said that stupid ♪ ♪ You look like you could use a friend ♪ ♪ That stupid says that's great ♪ ♪ But I ain't ever had me one of them ♪ ♪ That stupid said that evil ♪ ♪ How does this friendship work? ♪ ♪ Many evil says it's easy ♪ ♪ You just stick your head down and you're dirty ♪ ♪ So stupid dug a hole ♪ ♪ And stuck his head down and said ♪ ♪ "Believable had free rain ♪ ♪ Carry out as wicked play ♪ - And now, from the secret hidden bunker in the Rocky Mountains, it's time for MBTV on the radio and your host, Mike Oobey. ♪ You're the stupid and he had time ♪ ♪ To tear the world apart and split the people ♪ ♪ It's a tribe, she said that war can have a winner ♪ ♪ And that greed is not a sin ♪ ♪ And that man can judge another man ♪ ♪ By the color of his skin ♪ ♪ And all wild, stupid, sad while the world burned ♪ ♪ To the ground ♪ ♪ Big and cheap, late and nice to have fun around ♪ (upbeat music) - Oke-dee-doke-dee kids, I know some of you are gonna get down or because I played that song a long time 'cause I like it. But I got an email a few weeks back from a guy who said, you played a piece of classical music, I know classical music, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I know that, I came in to listen to you, dead, and I'm like, I'm sorry. I just kind of left it long 'cause I'd been running some long music. And then he followed back up by going like, yeah, well, and he explained to me in great detail that everything I said was wrong. And basically, maybe it is, I don't know. But I left this one long because Benjamin Adair Murphy, who I really like, he's kind of a super blues guy, fronted from one of the New York City blues bands. A couple years ago, he had an album called Old Chords that was one of the top Americana albums of the year. And he's just a hardcore blues guy. He loves the blues, studied the blues, plays the blues, and I think this song is so cool. It's called Stupid Follows Evil. And maybe we should have that freakin' tattooed on our heads, right? But anyway, if you think the music's too long, I'm sorry. I'm not really, but I can pretend I'm like France and apologize for the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Yeah, well, if it bothers you, I'm sorry as hell. Here's a big blue guy to come to your home and do something, I don't know. Clean up. Anyway, anyway, I'm Michael Bain. This is MBTV on the radio. I believe we are the longest running firearms podcast on the internet and I will continue running as long as I can. So numerous award-winning, none of which ever made us any more money. Brought to you this week by Hunter's HD Gold, the finest shooting glasses in the world, my friend Brian Conley. And I'm gonna get to tour his factory operation soon. And of course, MTM case guard, America's favorite big plastic box manufacturer. 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So what up this week? Yeah, I promised I wouldn't talk about the Paris Olympic opening ceremony. 'Cause, you know, I think there's a great article on the New York Post by Professor Glenn Reynolds who did, in fact, attend one of the Michael Byes the Beers at an NRA show. And, you know, he said that the problem with the opening ceremonies of the Olympic is not that it was like, you know, sacrilegious or attacking Christianity, which is easy to attack Christianity. 'Cause, and I'm not particularly a Christian, by the way, Christians are taught to turn the other cheek. Screw that. But anyway, as somebody else noted, if they'd had this stunning, powerful attack on Islam, Paris would be burning right now. But Professor Reynolds said, you know, the problem with it was not that it was, you know, sacrilegious, but that it was crummy, that it was badly done, just plain crappy. And it was done, you know, with kind of this, how the new secular culture we all live, and I'm like, look why we can't get away with nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more. So I'll say no more. But, so he was like, well, what are you gonna talk about? I'm like, oh, good grief, no politics. Could I talk about guns? Because, you know, this is sort of a gun podcast, I think, has been for a lot of years. But this week, my friend Kevin Creighton, you know my friend Kevin Creighton, he's a digital editor for a shooting illustrated. He and I've been friends for many years now. And, you know, one of the things I've told you guys before is that, occasionally I get messages from people that say, well, you said you liked that gun. Let me use the Ruger gun sight scout rifle in 308, huh? You said you liked that gun, but Joe Bob, who has a billion followers on the internet, he reviewed it and he said it was the crappiest sniper rifle he'd ever used. No, it's a, you know, it was a 16 1/2 inch barrel 308. Trust me on this, it's not a sniper rifle. Ah, you know, why would I say that? But no, I've told you before, there are people whose opinion I pay very close attention to. And Kevin is one of them. Also his cohort there, Jay Grazio at shooting illustrated. But he wrote a really good piece about testing on the range, the speed of the recover, recover tactical 2020 chassis system that's available for like glocks, a zillion other guns, basically, you know, it's one of a clam shell chassis system, clamps around the gun and it gives you like a pistol brace or in my case, or the case of like the guys at recoil magazine, you know, luckily have a registered SBR lower Glock frame. So we don't have to worry about front grips or shouldering. Actually, none of us have to worry about that anymore since that law, which was an egregiously stupid law by an egregiously overwrought ATF struck down last June. Previously is struck down for NRA members in April that the ATF couldn't enforce the anti-brace rule, which I read the whole thing that, you know, the whole like, when they sent out this, how we evaluate braces to see if there's short barrel rifles. And basically, you know, the initial proposal was stupid. The actual final rule that they adopted was turning 40 million, you know, I don't know, millions, millions of peoples into felons because they could. And federal courts didn't like that. Fire's policy coalition got a final judgment vacating the law in June, the whole pistol brace law. And of course, no doubt ATF is gonna waste public money and appeal it. But in light of the Supreme Court's recent rulings on Chevron, you know, where judges were obligated to defer to an agency's definition of something, they struck that down. And so the likelihood, and you can appeal the hell out of it, but the likelihood of the Supreme Court saying, having just made major attacks on bureaucratic overreach, it's on that, you know, it's also struck down, of course, the, the bump stock ruling is unconstitutional. Not, because of bureaucratic overreach, it's unlikely that the next generation of ATF bureaucratic overreach is gonna be approved by the Supreme Court unless, of course, Joe Biden, Joe Biden, he's the man, coward fool, liar, treasonous asshole who's owned by the Chinese government entirely and apparently is still the president of the United States. As he said, he's gonna change the Supreme Court. Yeah, you do that, you do that, Joe. Whoo, boy, get on that boy. I'll bet you have no trouble at all finding 38 states to ratify whatever knit-witch shit. You try to shove through your lame duck Congress, right? Okay, remember that the Equal Rights Amendment, which was pretty bland, you know, as far as a constitutional amendment, you know, it's kind of like, yeah, okay, sure, it didn't get 38 states, huh. So anyway, sorry, I digress, but, so basically the 2020 tactical is a chassis clamshell type system for pistols to give them either a system with a pistol brace or if it is a registered lower, as my Glock frame is, a registered short barrel rifle lower, a stock on it, no problems. And, you know, Kevin took it to the range and tested it for speed against like a brace equipped AR pistol, AR pistol was faster, but on the other hand, Kevin really likes to recover tactical 2020, as I do, as I do. In fact, if you remember, we've talked about this a lot. We talked about it when I got, when I hit and registered it as an SBR, you know, so 200 bucks so I could add a 3/4 inch extension to the stock. No, there's other things I wanna do with the Glock frame in the SBR world and I need it. It's just easy to have a registered SBR frame engraved, all that happy stuff, bottom of the trigger guard, by the way, good place to engrave. And, you know, so I think we showed us building it up on triggered. I'll, you know, I'm gonna talk a little bit about, I think we may talk about this on triggered next week or next couple of weeks, but Kevin did a really good job of assessing the speed and utility of the gun. And, you know, there's a number of chassis systems out there, the Ronnie system, the CAA system that, I believe was designed by Mikey Hartman, Lieutenant Colonel retired Mikey Hartman. One of the most significant farm trainers in the world, he was an IDF sniper, did IDF sniper training for Israel. He was born in Memphis, by the way, he and I talked about that a lot. But then he essentially did the shooting doctrine, created a sort of a designated marksman category for IDF that has worked out amazingly well. And my understanding is that after the October attacks on Israel, he, of course, living in Miami retired, I all together, cool guy. He immediately, of course, went back to Israel, re-enlisted and began teaching Israeli soldiers on his really excellent skills. I was lucky enough to take a class with him some years back and IDF shooters. And it was a great class, a fascinating, absolutely fascinating. Because IDF has really different philosophies as designed by Mikey Hartman. And that's why they created that Ronnie system. It's the micro chassis conversion at what MCK, MCX, how about that? MCK micro, Ronnie systems, which are chassis clamshell systems that fold around pistols and gives you a brace or if it's an SBR, gives you a stock, gives you a stability point. Also, there's others. B&T makes, oh, as is usual with B&T, it is, it's the gold standard for a chassis system. They're universal service pistol, the Glock, the flux, the flux raider, which really took the market by storm. And for some reason, I don't believe that flux makes the chassis conversion for glocks anymore. At least it's no longer cataloged. It's no longer cataloged. It's mostly, they make for SIG, the 365 and the 320 systems. But all of these are designed to give you more points of contact for a handgun. Because, and this is all, stealing all of this from Mikey Hartman, who like I said, is one of the most significant fire strainers in the world. As he said in our class, when he did the lecture part, shooting with a long gun is easier than shooting with a handgun, duh. And as he said, and had nothing to do with caliber, doesn't matter, you know, 556, doesn't matter if it's a nine. You know, the fact is, when you're shooting with a handgun, you're using your hands, you're wrist or what's supporting the gun. But when you're shooting with a long gun, a longer gun, something with a stock, a brace or something like that, you now have more points of contact with the gun. And no matter what, that makes it more stable. Hang on a second here, I will be right back. (gentle music) - Ready to revolutionize the world of sports shooting? Introducing the RIA 5.0 sporting pistol, made right here on American soil at RIA USA. The 5.0 features a patented RVS recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give you a super soft recoil. Combined with a smooth trigger pull with no stacking, you'll be more accurate on target, faster. The RIA 5.0, all new, all American. See more at armscore.com. - Okay kiddos, honestly, I didn't come right back. And the reason I didn't come right back is there's a wildfire close to us. In fact, you can sit in my office and watch the mountains burn. And not huge, three, 400 acres at this point, but inconveniently placed. Right now, I'll just tell you, we're not under, and a voluntary or mandatory evacuation. And at this point, my sweetie and I are optimistic. We set hoses, we've also set sprinklers. We got 2,500 gallons of water in our storage systems. And so if we have to run, we turn the sprinklers on and let it run itself dry. I am always amazed at the firefighting pilots. There are four helicopters, three tanker bombers, one spotting plane. And we saw a breakout of the fire coming downhill, which is what we don't want. 'Cause we're down. We got a ways to go before it gets to us. You know, we're very optimistic, but ultimately you understand that a fire, I mean, I told you guys this when we faced the camera and peak fire, we were evacuated for two weeks. If you've ever seen the movie, whatever the Kurt Russell fire movie, I forget what it's called. But yeah, so the only way you can say, the only way you can really understand a fire is that it's alive, it hates. And that happens to be true. For those of us who live here near fires, it does in fact happen to be true. So we know that ultimately the fire is dependent on the wind. The wind will tell the fire what's gonna happen. And right now and all day long, the wind has been with us, which has been holding the fire, you know, further away. It will probably shift tonight when it cools off and you know, we've got that kind of convection. Is that right, convection cooling? How it shifts and the cooler air from the mountain comes down. Doesn't look like a gale force winds. The problem with the camera and peak fire a few years ago, nightmare fire was, oh, 70 mile an hour winds. Makes it hard. But, and on top of that, as you, you know, some of you have read Facebook, no, Newt, my beagle is ill. And, you know, we had to take her to the doggy emergency room, Colorado State University Veterinary Emergency Clinic, which are great people. You know, they nursed her through her rattlesnake bite last year. And we're not sure it's a coughing, it may be some sort, you know, we're not sure. And not sure it's never good. But, you know, we've been kind of dealing with that since Friday and poor Newt, you know, we've kind of had to keep her sedated so she wouldn't be coughing as much. It says like, oh God, it's been a long week, kiddos. And this week looks just as long. So keep your fingers crossed for us if you would do that. I know you will. Anyway, anyway, we've been talking about clamshell type attachments for handguns that turn them in essence, even if it's just a brace or if it's a short barrel rifle, whatever, it turns them into a long gun. And it has some amazing advantages and the amazing advantages is something that, oh, you know, Mikey Hartman told me when we were spending some time together. And like I said, it's incredible to have a class with IDF instructors and Mikey Hartman there to kind of guide it through. Shared a room with Brent Huite, who of course editor was editor of Guns May Steel B, a great guy and even better he didn't snore. But, hi Brent. The reason that a long gun becomes easier to shoot is the number of points of contact. And as we mentioned before the break, you know, when you're shooting a gun with, you know, you're shooting a handgun, you got this grip, you got all this kind of stuff, you're supporting it with your arms and your wrist. That's what is supporting the gun. But when you have a long gun, you now have a whole series of physical attachments to the gun. In the case of the folding clamshell, if we're looking at the CAA Ronnie, which I believe Mikey Hartman designed or had design input into and theirs or the same thing with the 2020 recoveries, which by the way, we're designed by Timar Parat, who, Israeli who designed, part of the design work on the Tavor. So now you have a bunch of different points of contact. Number one, stock or the brace, the brace is either on your wrist or it's in your shoulder, or if it's a short barrel rifle, it is in your shoulder. So, the stock itself, in your shoulder, your cheek is on the stock. So, your first point of contact is a shoulder. Your cheek is on the stock. Your strong hand, obviously, is around the hand grip of the gun that's in the clamshell, where the magazine is, all those things. It is a good solid grip. Your weak hand is forward. Now, on some of these clamshell versions, including the CAA, including, I believe, the flux and maybe some of the others, is you have an option of being able to put a magazine carrier forward of the trigger guard. So, you got a place there. I've got Picatinny rails on the side to mount a light on, but below, I can put my magazine carrier. So, I've got a magazine in the gun and I have a magazine in the carrier in front of the trigger. Now, this is very specifically not legally a forward hand grip. As most of you know, a forward hand grip makes a pistol a scary NFA weapon. It means that you have to have already registered the receiver as a short barrel rifle, short barrel shotgun, you can't have that grip in the front, which, of course, is nonsensical crap. There are a number of different grips, lights and things like that, that go on brace equipped pistols that are legally have been defined as not forward grips. And specifically, the magazine carriers are defined legally as not forward grips. Now, if you use them as a forward grip, so what? All it matters is the legal definitions on that. So, that is your fourth point of contact. One of the things that's big with Mikey Hartman was that there's a fifth part of contact, which is that, yeah, as you tuck your elbows in, you've got this carbine up, you've got this personal defense weapon up, you've got this submachine gun up, you tuck your elbows in, and those elbows are on a table or something like that or touching the magazine. So, there's additionally a fifth point of contact. So, what happens is it's very stable. And this is important if you say, "Well, okay, I need to take a long shot. "I need to take a 50 yard shot or a 100 yard shot. "Can you do that with a handgun?" Sure. Of course you can. You gotta pay attention though. You gotta be stable. You gotta have that grip. You gotta be 100%. Now, how hard is it to take a 50 yard shot, a 100 yard shot from a carbine that's tucked into your shoulder and that you got a good solid grip on the pistol grip. You got a good solid grip on the front. You got your cheek all down. You got a great sight picture. You got your elbows tucked. The answer is not hard at all. Not hard at all. Well, put this gun together. And again, you know, we'll find those video and have it up for you. I think I may have mentioned earlier, like I said, I'm perhaps not tracking as well as I normally do, but basically, you know, my registered lower is a Glock 34 Gen 3. And on top of it, it's got a Glock 34 Gen 3 slide. And that slide has been specifically machine for the Steiner MPS red dot sight. That enclosed emitter red dot sight, which I think is a heck of a red dot sight, right on up there with the aim point and some of the others. It's a great sight. And this gun, I had a machine. So it sits lower. It has a backup iron sights and a dovetail in front of the sight. And then, of course, just in the standard Glock position. And that makes it low. I mean, typically because what a lot of these, the clamshell guns are like, is they have like a bridge that you can put the sight on. And that way, it's a little bit easier. Your eye is higher. And it looks into the sight a little bit better. From my own standpoint, you know, I find it always worrisome of having the sight mounted on, say, a plastic bridge. If I recall, the B&T bridges steal. And Trigicon made a special sight for it when it first came out. It's a great, great looking gun. Boy, did it cost a lot. But so I decided to go ahead and keep the sight mounted on the gun. Yeah, would I like it up about a Corvette? Yeah. Do I think it matters? No, it's one of the reasons that I kind of like the idea that this is a short barrel rifle. You know, is a registered short barrel rifle. Is because with a little bit of extension on the stock, the butt of the stock can tuck into my shoulder really well. My head can come down really tight. You know, my cheek sets really low on the folding stock that I pop out. And as a result, I actually can get a fixed sight picture on my backup irons and they're very low. You know, I prefer backup irons to be very, very low. Certainly not a whole one third. Maybe like a, you know, one, not even a one quarter smaller than that. But I have a clear, very good backup sight picture. I have the dot perfect. You know, perfectly the Steiner dot centered perfectly. This particular lower has, I believe one of the prototype Apex triggers, Randy Lee. Way back when, I think that was one of the people who got one of the protos and this is one of the protos and this gun, great trigger. The thing I like about the 2020 clamshell over some of the others is it's simple. It's simple. It's, you know, clamshell opens up, put gun in, close it, one bolt, close the bolt, don't, it's done. Now, I have also on this fitted one of the, our recover tacticals. They have a little bit of a grip for you to be able to rack the gun. But I think most of us already know, you know, one of the great things about an optic on a gun is semi-auto, is it makes it really fairly easy to rack, right? Because you can use the optic to rack. You know, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, everybody I know in the world does it. So it doesn't matter. But I can still use this expanded set of wings on the side, had to do a little bit of fitting. But, you know, they're plastic wings, they clamp on the side. It's pretty easy, fits in really well. It's a really thoughtful design. The stock folds, it's a push button, and then it's got a friction catch on the right-hand side. Now, when the stock is fully closed, you can use the gun, the Glock, just like you would use a Glock 34, or any other gun that you have set in the clamshell. You can get a really good grip on it, get a really good sight picture on it. You can run the gun exactly as if it was pistol. And then if you say, "Oh my God, I got to shoot a longer shot." There's aliens landing, they're jumping out of the spaceship, and they look like baby elephants with three arms and a battle rifle. I gotta do something here. So I'm able to pop it and do this. When I first put this gun together, I first put this Glock together. Yeah, I had an SBR at the lower yet. But it was still a braced pistol. But I took it and this was before all the lunacy about braced pistols. I shouldered it and I said, "Well, you know, I went from low ready, shouldered, my head tucked in, and I've got a silhouette at Silhouette Target that depending on where I stand, it's maybe anywhere from 50 to, say, 80 yards away. And, you know, with this, with the brace, everything tucked in with my multiple points of contact on the gun, you could sit there and pull the trigger on that Silhouette Target and go dinkity, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, wasn't even hard, very, very easy. And I thought, "Well, that's kind of neat." And then I SBR'd the lower 'cause I said, "Well, I want to do this, I think I want to do that." And I realized that with a little bit of a three-quarter inch extension on the stock, that all of a sudden just became an actual very viable little carbine. And you can get it for SIGs, Berettis, Phil on the blank. And again, look at CAA. You know, I thought this was like some sort of horrible bizarre plastic gadget stuff, honestly. Up until the point that I did at class with Mikey Harman and the Gastrum IDF, he's like, "Okay, here goes Michael, Michael." You know, even talking and stuff, he goes, "You think all this is some sort of like, you know, cheesy plastic crap." So, well, you know, yeah. But I said, "To be honest, Mikey, I mean, to be honest, I initially thought like bullpups were pretty much, you know, a spacey crap." And you know, since then I've had FN 2000s, I've had divorce, the early generation divorce, I presently have an X95 and 9 millimeter. That is a great gun. I had other like bullpups and work with other clam shells, but I said, I'm sorry, with bullpups. I said, "So, I went into bullpups thinking, wow, that's pretty much like nonsensical crap." And then basically it turned out I was roughly 100% wrong on that. So it was not inconceivable that I could in fact, be wrong on this. - Introducing the all new Taurus G3C. 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Anyway, so we're talking about clamshell guns, that turn handguns into either a braced pistol or a short barrel rifle if you want to go down that path. - Yeah, the interesting thing and I wanted to mention this 'cause I forget, but you know, farms, first the NRA, you know, appealing the brace law, went to federal judge in Texas and got the federal judge. You know, he looked at it, he goes, this is crap. And it is crap, you know, because the rules that the ATF promulgated were terrible. You know, they were terribly written, terribly thought out. All they wanted was to hurt us. That's what they existed for. And so at that point, federal judge said that NRA members were not subject to this law and could not be arrested for violating it. And in June, the Farms Policy Coalition, who are our warriors on this stuff, absolute warriors, they got, and I think I mentioned earlier, final judgment under federal court that the brace law can't be enforced. I wanted to mention that. I think I mentioned it before, sorry. But yeah, I mean, the big thing is appeal your ass off, knock yourself out. Anyway, anyway, so I think it's worth noting something that Mikey Hartman noted to me when we were to spend some time together, and that other people have noted is people go, well, you know, a rifle's more accurate than a handgun, you know, not necessarily really. A rifle might have a longer barrelist, you might have a longer barrel handgun. And that's increased velocity, and maybe that translates into greater distance, you know, for a kill shot hunting or anything, or sniping like that. But in terms of its intrinsic accuracy, well, no. No, you know, you could build a bolt action handgun with an eight inch barrel to exactly the same standards, you build a bolt action sniper rifle with a 24 inch barrel, you know, to help exactly the same standards. And you're not talking about like, oh, wow, it's a lot with a barrel. The rifle will be a lot more accurate because of a longer barrel. And the point that Mr. Hartman, Lieutenant Colonel retired Hartman said, it's not a sight at all. It is the reason, the reason that a rifle is more accurate, just the points of contact make it more stable, period. And so, you know, when the key thing that one of the things that read Kevin's article, and Kevin does such a good job at doing this, he is just absolutely super writer. And also he's, for a gun writer, he's much more quirky than most of them. And I mean that in the best possible way, Kevin, honestly, that, you know, he's looking at other subjects that somehow the other gun writers seem to not see, nine millimeter or 45, which will take down the bad guy, I don't know. Kevin's way beyond that. But there's also a really great interesting article. I'll link these things up for you by Dave Fortier at Firearms News, my friend Dave. Great guy, I mean, just, you want to talk about a brilliant firearms expert, Dave is pretty much there. And he was talking about his quest for a small bad gun. And I think he finally ended up using a flux on a Glock, you know, one of the flux guns, which are not available anymore. But definitely read his article because it's like the same with Kevin. Okay, what do I want? I would like a gun that is no longer than 12 inches. Interestingly enough, my 2020 G34 clocks in, you know, from the tip of the barrel to where the stock folds, 12 inches folded, it fits in a very small bag. The great thing, you know, again, the reason that I like the idea of glocks on for use in these clamshell guns is because we all laugh, you know, after the apocalypse, which is probably about two, three weeks after the Olympic ends, you know what I'm saying is, Glock parts will be available at convenience stores, right? They may well be now, honestly. But, you know, glocks, dogs can work on them. And I appreciate that about that. And it's very similar, same with the SIG 320 and 365 platforms. But glocks have this huge aftermarket, you know, I have a bin that says Glock parts. And in it is enough parts to rebuild a bunch of blocks. You know, springs, pins, everything, you know, fill in the blank, trigger groups, whatever. And the key thing is, is there's probably not $300 worth of stuff in that box. Because Glock parts, factory parts are cheap. I mean, yes, if you build a Gucci Glock, it's gonna run up. You know, you start with like a shadow system of 920 and work from there, it's gonna cost you some bucks, kiddos. But I like the idea of an inexpensive gun that's really easy to maintain. It's worth noting that when you put a gun in a clamshell and one of these guns in a clamshell, you can no longer get to the takedown stuff on it. You have to take it off the clamshell off, which is fine, especially with the 2020, 'cause it's a bolt. Undo that being, pops open, gun pops out. Whoa, look at that. But I like the part with the Glock. I also, one of the things I like about Glocks within this context, this is a PDW context, right? Think of it as a PDW context. A Glock magazines are inexpensive and available literally in the entire solar system. I am pretty sure that if you decided you needed to go to, I wasn't gonna say Uranus, I'm not gonna go there. I don't know, maybe Venus. There's an outlet store there that'll sell you Korean made Glock magazines for $11 or whatever the equivalent. Venus's currency is at the time. They're common, common is good. They come in a lot of different links. I don't know if I mentioned this, sorry, but you know, obviously it's Glock 34, so we start out 17 rounds, 19 rounds, 24 rounds, 31 rounds, 33 rounds, why is that important? Well, it's kinda neat. I mean, 33 round magazines are great, but they're big and they're bulky and they're heavy. And sometimes with, I've had 33 round magazines for ever since there were 33 round magazines, which what was that, '90s, late '80s, whatever. But I was 11 then, and they're heavy. And sometimes like if you have a 33 round magazine in the magazine carrier, you're risking it falling out onto the floor. Doesn't happen often, but does happen. The other thing too is, and this is something we're all like, you know, we all have a kind of a knack for doing this, right? We go like, okay, we got this really cool, like small guns, small, real small, small carbine, and now I'm gonna add a 10,000 lumen light and air-aids iron and aquarium bubbler, coffee-making machine. And all of a sudden it's not small, light, and convenient. So you wanna keep that in mind, you know, with the magazines, because you have such a number of options with Glock, you know, you can say, hey, in my bag, and one of the great things, I want again, the advantage of a bag magazine, and this is something Kevin talks about, it's really important, you know, we all store firearms safely, right? We all store them the correct way. In my car, you know, I have a steel lock box that's attached by a heavy chain to the frame of the car. And that's where, if I've got to leave a gun in the car, I open the steel lock box, put the gun in, lock it back up. You know, you wanna try to steal it, give it a shot. It's hard, but I like the idea of a bag gun, it's something we've talked about off and on a lot over the years on, gosh, just not on the podcast, but on shooting gallery, best defense. You know, a gun where you might say, "Hey, you know, I'm on a road trip." And, you know, I still like road trips, especially since those of you who are following me on Facebook, no, I just overhauled my Mini Cooper, or my Mini Cooper was overhauled by people who know what the hell they're doing, as opposed to me. But, you know, on a road trip, you know, you got a long gun. You say, "I wanna have a long gun," 'cause, you know, I generally like to travel with a long gun. Well, where you gonna keep it when you go in to grab dinner, where you're on the road, you're gonna do this, where you're gonna keep it. That's why I like the idea of a bag gun, a gun that fits into not a humongous bag that on the side says, "I am a stuggly ninja killer," which is why I'm carrying this bag, you idiots, but rather a bag that looks like just some bag that everybody else on earth carries something like it, especially here in the out west. And, in it, you can have a Glock, or, you know, whatever your choice, whatever your flavor is, with some kind of chassis on it. And, like I said, one of the things I like about the Recovery 2020 chassis is that it's small, minimal. The other thing I like about it is it's cheap, which you can't say the same about B&T and flux. Gotta tell you that. And even the CAA sometimes can run up, but you end up with a bag gun, you can carry it in a reasonable looking bag. In it, you can have, say, 17 round magazine in the gun, or 19 round, or one of the smaller ones, you know, one of the, oh, what is that, 24? Is that for, is that for USPSA carry optics? Class, anyway. They always had these weird rules on magazines, which is why Glock company and other companies made magazines specifically for that. And, you know, you still got a petite package, if you will, and you've got another 17 round magazine in the magazine holder. And then inside the bag itself, you can have a couple of 33 round magazines. In case, you know, in case you're assaulted by, I don't know, fill in the blank. Wolverines, Badgers, relocated wolves, blue, weird looking people from France, anyway. But the idea of a PDW that fits in a small bag is really pretty good, you know, because you're able to carry that bag with you when you're going somewhere, you know, when you're in a strange place, whatever. If you're on the road and you like it, then you've got a gun with a little bit more range, a little bit more options. You can carry it in a bag that doesn't look weird, you know, that again, doesn't look like tactical Tommy assaulting, I don't know, whatever tactical Tommy's assaulting this week. But again, you know, read Kevin's article, read Dave's article, David's article. Check this stuff out and see what you think on the whole. I'm Michael Baine, this is MBTV on the radio, of course you can find any links we have here on michaelbaine.tv. Ah, and this, you know, what do we got here that be fun to go out with? All I can say is it's been a really bad day of a really bad couple of weeks, so I guess we're gonna roll along. This is a cool song, you know, again, a singer I like, Roy Young, working with a seatbelt on band. Roy Young, again, great R&B singer, this song's called "Willie." And boy, one way or another, guys, I will actually see you, hear you, or speak to you next week and until then, damn it, be safe out there. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) It was a hot summer, isn't it? Oh, we couldn't close, oh, yeah. It was a hot summer night, oh. Lord, we couldn't close, oh, yeah. ♪ The old woman's child gave us a fry ♪ ♪ She said, "Willie didn't come back home last night," ♪ ♪ No, no, no ♪ (upbeat music)
