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Security Fail: Drone surveils Trump shooting location Audio short
Mr. Crooks scoped out the rally site a day before the Secret Service did. He used a drone to survey the site while the Secret Service did not seek permission to use one for the rally. He researched how far Lee Harvey Oswald was from John F. Kennedy when he fatally shot the president in 1963 — the answer is about 265 feet — and managed to climb onto a roof that was about 400 feet from Mr. Trump at its closest point. The Secret Service left that roof unmanned.
- Duration:
- 6m
- Broadcast on:
- 30 Jul 2024
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"My dad works in B2B marketing. "He came by my school for career day "and said he was a big row as man. "Then he told everyone how much he loved "calculating his return on ad spend. "My friends still laughing at me to this day." - Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. Linked in, the place to be, to be. - Yeah, but the fact that he re-conned it, he had a drone re-conned it. He built three IEDs with a remote control. - That bothers me, but his re-con was a 345 that afternoon. If you're gonna re-con something properly, you would anticipate they would see you there at 345. You would think that the venue is probably locked down. My venues were locked down the night before. We ran dogs through and we locked it down the night before. And so you would have thought that he would have re-conned it earlier or earlier. - He did, Bobby. Actually, if you look at that graphic that was just up at 11 a.m., he went to the site. He drove in the area and then he went back home. Then he went, he told his parents, he was going to the range around 130 p.m., 345. He went back to the scene. That was the second time in the same day. He had purchased the ammo earlier in the morning. Then he had gone back the second time. He flew to drone, but he only flew for a few minutes. It looks like it was at 4 p.m. and he was seen driving in the area. And at 5 p.m., that's when he was identified as the suspicious person in 530. That's when they find him using the range find. I mean, with all of those things, I think the people who were in place that noticed him, they just didn't follow up on it, you know? And I think he'd been making a great point though, Bobby. He should have never been able to infiltrate the area as many times as he did. I mean, the minute he's flying a drone at four o'clock in the afternoon, the presence going on the stage at six, something right there that should have been alarm bells and plus all the other things that he did, you know? - Right. I think that that venue should have been locked down way before that. - Absolutely. And he should have never been allowed to go on the stage until they found him detained him, made sure everything was good. And we've all done these things where a situation erupts, something wasn't covered. Let's hold off. Let's keep the principal at bay for a few minutes until we had a suspicious car in front of a hotel one time when we had a high-level dignitary coming at a New York Palace hotel. We waited until that car was out of the area, 100%. We cleared the block, then we allowed him. And it was only he was coming out of the hotel and getting in the car. It was about a 15, 20-yard dash from the front door to the car. But we were a little concerned. The car looked like it was out of place. We went over, got the car out of there, and then we continued on with our plan. So they dropped the ball in a lot of areas. That's really the bottom of it. - His close-in team, those guys have been with him since 2015 when he became a candidate. They've been with him almost 10 years. He loves them, they love him. And they would have turned to him and said, "Boss, we're gonna hold off a 15 minutes, 20 minutes." He would have been fine with that. - And they've done that before, Bobby. The person had talked about that. They've done that numerous times. - Absolutely, absolutely. If they were told that there was a suspicious guy, they would have said, "Hey, boss, let's hold off for a few minutes." And then they would have had somebody go out there and brace this guy, "You know, I'm on a text string with a couple of retired agents and different people from different agencies." And it's not an excuse, it's not. And I don't give them any corner here, but you had the first lady, I think, was in Pittsburgh that day, you had, I think, no, the first lady was in Philadelphia, the vice president was in Pittsburgh, all in the same state, right? So somebody was theorizing, this wasn't my theory, but somebody was theorizing that, you know, they were strapped for man power. This was a Trump rally in a very rural area. Those Trump rallies tend to be lovefests. All his base turns out, they just adore Trump. And maybe they thought this wasn't going to be like a very high targeted event. And so they pointed off on some new guy to do the operational plan, 'cause he needed the experience in drawing up an ops plan. We all start somewhere. I'm not sure I buy into that, but-- - My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friend's still laughing at me to this day. - Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. - There was clearly a lack of resources. Now we're hearing some secrets, you know, we've heard initially that they said, "No, we've never denied resources." Now we're hearing, you know, they did deny resources. It was a man power and a funding issue. And now we're hearing they wouldn't deploy secret service counter sniper teams outside of driving distance from DC. I don't know what that's about. So, you know, there's gonna be rallies all over this country in the couple of months. I mean, we're in the home stretch of a very contentious presidential race. Secret service better get this thing figured out. - But, Bobby, isn't it your experience? I mean, you did operations from the planning stage. I mean, the Secret Service, they're calling for security location. They get local law enforcement. They make sure it's done. You've got to have people on this roof. You've got to have people on this building. And it just seems like that wasn't done. That part of it, I think, is really what they lacked. - Yeah, whenever I worked with the Secret Service, the last time I remember it was Reagan's funeral here in California, you know, they're no tourist, they don't play well with others. And what I mean by that is they're nice people and they're very good at what they do normally. But what they say goes, I mean, even I- - They demand that. - When they were on scene and they had a protectee, 'cause they're protectees of the highest level, we stood down or we took direction from them, which is unusual for us, but we took direction from them whenever they were on scene. And it was their call and we just did what they asked us to do. And that was us, the LAPD, LA Sheriff's, everybody did that. Whenever Secret Service was on scene, they were in charge and everybody listened to them. And if they told us, we need six guys up on that roof and can the FBI handle that, we would find those six guys and put them on that roof. It's just the way it-