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Can we trust the FBI to investigate the Secret Service?

hooting: Can we trust the FBI to Investigate the Secret Service? #FBI #SecretService #Assassination TOPLINE Some police officials were aware 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks was lurking near a Donald Trump rally earlier this month for more than 90 minutes before he opened fire, text messages obtained by The New York Times suggest—the latest revelation about security problems ahead of the assassination attempt. The Times on Sunday published a series of text messages sent amongst a local police countersniper team, including a warning from one man who was leaving his shift and texted his colleagues at 4:26 p.m. to warn them of a man who'd parked near them and would have seen the team sitting armed inside what was supposed to be a secure building. More than an hour later, another countersniper took a photo of Crooks and told his colleagues Crooks was seen pointing a rangefinder in the direction of the rally, suggesting they tell the Secret Service about his location. Half an hour after that, at 6:11 p.m., Crooks managed to fire shots from the roof of a warehouse connected to the same building the countersnipers who’d been warned about him were inside, without any local law enforcement agents or members of the Secret Service having located him despite his being armed and within 400 feet of the former president.

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29 Jul 2024
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Shooting: Can we trust the FBI to Investigate the Secret Service? #FBI #SecretService #Assassination TOPLINE Some police officials were aware 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks was lurking near a Donald Trump rally earlier this month for more than 90 minutes before he opened fire, text messages obtained by The New York Times suggest—the latest revelation about security problems ahead of the assassination attempt. The Times on Sunday published a series of text messages sent amongst a local police countersniper team, including a warning from one man who was leaving his shift and texted his colleagues at 4:26 p.m. to warn them of a man who'd parked near them and would have seen the team sitting armed inside what was supposed to be a secure building. More than an hour later, another countersniper took a photo of Crooks and told his colleagues Crooks was seen pointing a rangefinder in the direction of the rally, suggesting they tell the Secret Service about his location. Half an hour after that, at 6:11 p.m., Crooks managed to fire shots from the roof of a warehouse connected to the same building the countersnipers who’d been warned about him were inside, without any local law enforcement agents or members of the Secret Service having located him despite his being armed and within 400 feet of the former president.

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"My dad works in B2B marketing. "He came by my school for career day "and said he was a big row as man. "Then he told everyone how much he loved "calculating his return on ad spend. "My friends still laughing at me to this day." - Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. Linked in, the place to be, to be. (upbeat music) - Hello everyone, and welcome to "Police Off the Cuff Real Crime Stories." I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27 year veteran of the NYPD. Folks, a lot of questions now are coming about the attempted assassination of former President Trump. We're learning now that the shooter was spotted a full 90 minutes before the shots were fired. And my dissertation here, my big question, is can we trust the FBI to investigate the secret service? Many people, including myself, are very serious questions with this, because some of these new findings are not being released or found out in a timely fashion by the FBI, but by senators. This information about the 90 minutes was found out by Senator Chuck Grassley in his inquiries to the Beaver County Emergency Service Unit, who said that they found out that he was spotted through text messages in regards to law enforcement text messaging between themselves. So law enforcement officials investigating the assassination of former President Donald Trump told lawmakers Wednesday, 20 minutes passed between the time the U.S. you could serve as snipers, first spotted the gunman on a rooftop and time shots were fired at the former President. According to several law enforcement officials and lawmakers briefed on them that. Officials said the snipers spotted the suspect 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks on the roof of a building outside the security zone at the rally Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania at 5.52 p.m. Eastern standard time. The shooting happened at 6.12 p.m. Eastern time, 20 minutes later. In the days since the shooting, the Secret Service has come under scrutiny for its response to the assassination attempt and the agency's director, Kimberly Cheetel, has been subpoenaed as we all know she testified. It was a disaster she basically had to resign. So this whole timeline has been amended now, amended to the point that he was spotted a full 90 minutes before the shooting actually occurred and how are we just finding this out now? This happened on the 13th of July. It's now the 29th of July, right? So 16 days, over two weeks later, we're just finding this out. Does that give you confidence in the FBI? I mean, everyone watching this assassination attempt has zero, zero confidence in the Secret Service. Can you imagine people from Europe, other countries watching this unfold? And then as it unfolds, watching more and more information, come pouring in and I'm glad at least the FBI is not doing what they usually do and say, oh, this is under investigation. Hello, hooray, yes. And why are senators finding out things that the FBI should find out? Or does the FBI already have that information and they're not releasing it? This is not a situation where the leader of the FBI should be withholding information back because there he is, his first day of testimony with all of the FBI agents behind him. This is not something to hold back because conspiracy theorists are running rampant and you're giving them food for thought here. This was from Fox News and we get some new pictures here. Back everyone here to live down from Fox. We are learning new information into the investigation, into a Trump's attempted assassination. Security at former President Trump's Butler, Pennsylvania rally, first noticed the man who later shot a Trump more than 90 minutes before shots were fired, according to tax reported by the New York Times, adding to criticism of the Secret Service's handling of the event, a local counter sniper, first notice gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks at 4.26 p.m. Eastern time, just more than an hour and a half before he climbed onto a nearby roof and shot at Trump, nicking his air, killing a supporter in the crowd and injuring two others, the officer who was clocking out of his shift, notified colleagues about a suspicious man sitting at a picnic table near their lookout point via text, additional text at about 5.40 p.m. show officers discussing that they shouldn't inform Secret Service after Crooks was spotted again, this time using a range fire. Call it into command and have a uniform, check it out, the text reads. The series of security failures that allowed Crooks to get into position to shoot Trump has shocked Congress, sparking a house investigation as well as an independent probe. Now, does this information, does it make us think of incompetence or does it make us feel that perhaps this was done on purpose? This is, these are some of the issues that we have to face because people cannot believe that our Secret Service, our local law enforcement, and now our FBI is this incompetent, the gang that couldn't shoot straight, that's what it sounds like, right? The biggest problem here that I could see from looking at it and just looking at it very quickly is a problem of communication. And the one problem of the communication is, why does local police, if they're involved in this detail, not have the same radios as Secret Service, so in real time, they can notify the Secret Service of what they've spotted, of what they saw, so that the Secret Service can react to it in real time, not playing telephone. You know, we all played telephone as kids and we know how the message gets garbled and the message gets corrected and it changes according to how many people get it. So a direct radio communication, right to the source, and I can't believe that that the capability wasn't there that day to do that, just absolutely outrageous. Going back to the video. Secret Service Director Kimberley Sheedill resigned from her post last week after being grilled by the House Oversight and Accountability Committee about the attempted assassination. Police on scene were unable to find crooks again after being made aware of his presence near the building he later climbed. Just after Trump took the stage at 6.03 PM, members of the crowd pointed out a suspicious man on a nearby roof. FBI Director Christopher Ray testified last week that a local Butler police officer was then boosted onto the roof to confront crooks, but was met with a gun being pointed at him with no free hands to grab his own gun and fire back, he dropped to avoid being shot. Just seconds later, Ray said crooks fired eight rounds towards Trump. He was quickly shot and killed by his Secret Service counter sniper team. A motive for the shooting is unknown, though investigators found that crooks had searched for multiple possible targets before deciding on Trump, including President Biden. It is believed he suffered from a depressive disorder. The new details moved back. The timeline for one crooks was first spotted, which was previously believed to be about an hour before the shooting. So every day it seems like there is new information into this attempted assassination. And now we are learning 90 minutes before they had a sniper that had eyes on this suspicious person. It went from suspicious to being a threat and still crooks was able to get eight shots off and narrowly killing former President Donald Trump. Unbelievable, just unacceptable, absolutely unacceptable. And where was the communication between the local police? My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laughing me to this day. Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. And the Secret Service. Why wasn't the communication in real time? Why? Other questions we have? Why was this individual Thomas Crooks able to fly a drone? And we're learning not over the site, but adjacent to the site two hours before the shooting. How was that not reported in real time? Again, everyone has questions. Did Thomas Crooks act alone? He seemed to know a hell of a lot about assassinating someone. He knew a lot about counter surveillance. He knew a lot about re-conning his position. He knew a lot about making IEDs improvise explosive devices. So all of these questions we have, and it leads everyone to believe that did he have help? And I'm not saying he had help that day that there was another shooter on the scene, but did he have help in the planning and the operations of the money it took to do this? Of the recon, of being educated on how law enforcement works and being able to thought that this is gonna, I'm gonna play a little bit of Christopher Ray testifying before Congress. - Either it or some shrapnel is what grazed his ears. So I don't know that I have the actual distance. - Very, very close, you would agree. - Yes. - Is this the biggest security failure that you've seen in your career? - So one of the things in race testimony on this, Trump's doctor testified that it was not shrapnel that hit his ear, it was a bullet. So when Christopher Ray says that, it also makes people think that, well, perhaps this is a conspiracy. People are saying, oh, is the FBI involved? He's trying to downplay this. He's trying to downplay that this happened at all. How about the picture from the New York Times, the photographer that took the picture of the bullet in flight, unbelievable, unbelievable work, amazing. I wanna play a little bit of the text messages between the officers from the Pennsylvania, it was Beaver County police, that they sent to each other prior to this shooting. And you'll see, this is also quite disturbing. - He seemed off. At 4.26 p.m., one of the snipers texted, "You see me go out with my rifle." So he knows you guys are up there. By 5.14 p.m., they grew suspicious. - He was looking up and down the building and just wandered around and it just seemed out of place. - Greg Nichols says he snapped these photos of the shooter and shared them in a group text to local snipers on the scene. - I assume that there would be somebody coming out to speak with this individual. - We have to assume that when he put that information out to command, the command took that information and did something with it. - It's unclear if their concerns reached members of Trump's Secret Service detail. The Washington Post reports the agents complain they were not made aware of the warnings. - We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing with the Secret Service snipers whenever they arrived and that never happened. So I think that that was probably a pivotal point where I started thinking things were wrong because that never happened and we had no communication with the Secret Service. - The Secret Service declined to respond directly but tells ABC News it's committed to better understanding what happened and is offering complete cooperation with ongoing investigations. - Members of the SWAT team believe they did everything they could to prevent the attack but accept their share of responsibility. They add their studying footage of the site because former President Trump plans to hold another rally in Western Pennsylvania. - So just just totally outreaches, totally unacceptable. And again, the simple way to look at this is that why didn't they have radios? Why didn't they have radios on the same frequency? As the Secret Service. So they could have communicated in real time. If they couldn't meet face-to-face, the SWAT team from the local police and the Secret Service sniper team, why didn't they at least speak by phone to the lead people? But the most egregious error that I see as a 27-year veteran NYPD police sergeant is the communication outrageous. You should, and if the Secret Service, if that is their procedure, not to give radios to the local police, then that has to be changed. That procedure has to 100% be changed 'cause it's unacceptable. Can you imagine this was a hair away from an assassination? And again, three people, one person lost their lives. Mr. Compator, who was the local fire chief, and two other individuals were gravely, gravely injured. And does it have to get to that before changes are made? I would think that Europeans and people in other countries. My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friend's still laughing me to this day. Not everyone gets B2B. But with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to LinkedIn.com/results to claim your credit. That's LinkedIn.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. Looking at us like, my God, can you believe how horrible that security was? Corey Compator lost his life. And David Dutch and James Copenhagen, gravely injured. So none of these things should ever happen again. Again, this person, Thomas Crooks, was spotted on the roof much earlier. And there was time Snipers could have taken him out if they would have gotten the order to do so, or the green light, as they call it, to do so. So folks, as this investigation proceeds forward, there's lots and lots of questions, and I get back to my whole dissertation. Can we trust the FBI to investigate the Secret Service? And I would say many of you say, no. I'm Bill Cannon from Police Off The Car for Real Crime Stories. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll bring you more information as it comes out. Have a great day, everyone, and God bless. [BLANK_AUDIO]