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PHLY Flyers Podcast | Tuesday Reviewsday – SLAP SHOT; Flyers headlines, Michkov’s pitch

It’s finally here. It seems as if the days of Danny Briere and the Philadelphia Flyers front office making any news are behind us until training camp opens, so we’re beginning our summer hockey movie reviews today with the 1977 classic, SLAP SHOT! Charlie, Kelly & Bill discuss their favorite characters, scenes and jokes from the greatest hockey movie ever made, and get into a little Flyers talk as well, including breaking down Matvei Michkov’s first pitch at last night’s Phillies game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1h 2m
Broadcast on:
30 Jul 2024
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mp3

It’s finally here. It seems as if the days of Danny Briere and the Philadelphia Flyers front office making any news are behind us until training camp opens, so we’re beginning our summer hockey movie reviews today with the 1977 classic, SLAP SHOT!

Charlie, Kelly & Bill discuss their favorite characters, scenes and jokes from the greatest hockey movie ever made, and get into a little Flyers talk as well, including breaking down Matvei Michkov’s first pitch at last night’s Phillies game.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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[music] (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hey everybody, how you doing? - Well, that's good. Welcome to PHLY Fliers. My name is Bill Matts. I'm your director of fun and games for the afternoon, this beautiful Tuesday reviews day. We're talking slap shot. And to do so with me today, we have Philadelphia's number one hockey beat reporter, Charlie O'Connor, as well as a Broad Street hockey zone. As some people may know, Kelly Hinkle. Oh, what's up today, guys? - Oh, you know, it's Tuesday. - It is too short, it's Tuesday. - I was, and like I've been planning like Tuesday reviews day for a week now. All day was convinced it was Wednesday, had no idea what day it was until like I got here today. - You did great. - Kelly, do you remember the trade deadline show we did at Chicken or the Egg? - Yes. - And I ate those wings, you ate them, no problem. - Yes. - And I had like a mini meltdown. I don't know if I can handle spicy stuff anymore. Like that level of, before you guys got here, and thank God Brynn showed up when she did to let me in, 'cause I forgot my key today, who's just standing around like a bum. Buffalo Wild Wings dropped off some food here yesterday for National Chicken Wing Day. - I was bummed that I missed that. - They have this blazing sauce. - Yeah. - Yeah, eat that, sounds good. I had another meltdown. - Did you really? - I was like running around out there, like running my face under the sink, like it just drinking Pepsi out of the two liters. - I'm impressed, I don't know what has happened to me. - Well, I guess, like, especially for like our new partner Buffalo Wild Wings, I'm impressed, 'cause I've never had their wings. I've been to Buffalo Wild Wings, I've never had their wings. I'm impressed that they have legitimately really spicy wings. - You think like a chain like that is like, okay, it's gonna be like-- - You gotta dull it down for the masses. - But they have respect. - I should have just gone with the regular Buffalo sauce. It's a place that I was like, I can't handle, I don't know what has happened to me. - It's just like over, like, I'm, no, I'm just gonna-- - I'm sorry I hear that. - I just gotta stick with like Frank's Red Hot or something. - For the record, I love pizza. - You gotta have your limit. - I gotta know your limits. - I guess we do, we're just learning your new limit now. - There is like, nothing going on in hockey now. - It's really over. - Everybody's definitely at the cabins. - It is really-- - The cottages. - The cottages, yeah. It's really, really over-- - I think some have shore houses, personally. - Well, the ones from around here, surely. - Yeah. Showery. - Shave rares at the shore. - Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. John Stevens, I'm sure, still back at his place. Yeah. But some things did happen yesterday that I thought before we were getting to the Slap Shot Talk, we should get to the-- - Just saying, I called this. - The first of which-- - I freaking called this. - Mavé Mishkov throws out the first pitch-- - Insider. - At the-- - It was inevitable. - At the fill, oh. - The minute I saw those pictures, him getting off the plane, having the Phillies out, I'm like, okay, if they weren't playing to have him throw out a first pitch, the call has already happened to see if he can throw out a first pitch. - So, he gets his Mishkov, Phillies jersey, he meets with Rob Thompson, takes-- - Look at our hockey fan, Canadian. - Take me a Rob Thompson. - Rob Thompson is never happier than when he's talking about hockey. - It's like the only time I ever really see him engaged in a conversation. - That's fine. - Oh, we're gonna talk some hockey? All right, yeah. - Yeah. - Just to the time, he's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, but the video-- I got, we wondered if he can throw a baseball. - He did it. - And-- - Was bad for-- - I was bad! - Someone's like, probably first time. Not horrible. - No, I wouldn't imagine-- - It was a strike. - He hasn't thrown a baseball make times in his life. - You gotta believe, 'cause I didn't see some people like, I can't, how come these high level athletes, he's Russian? - Yeah. - And not like Ivan Proverall of Russian. - No. - All the fuckers-- - All the way. - From Russia, he just got here a week ago. And not too bad, not too bad, I would say. - Well, we had that video years ago, the one he posted on social, where he threw like the basketball backwards, and it goes in the net. - Yeah. - Now, I imagine-- - But that was awkward as shit, too. - I imagine he probably tried that about 100 times before they could post one. - Nah, but he got one. - He got one. - I'm trying. - I'm thinking of, is it the Andy Sandberg movie pop store, where he like throws it behind his back, and all his boys just reacted. - Yeah, I was doing it. (laughing) - That is such a good movie. - He was like, "Yeah!" - No, we're close. - But I was happy to see it. It's the thing I liked about this, though. And like him just getting the heroes welcome, the jersey, doing the whole media tour, rolling out the red carpet. Welcome to the city. You're the face of the franchise. Congratulations, young teenager. - Yeah. - The teammates. Yeah, there's Rob Thompson there. I mean, yeah. - The teammates is the picture I wanted to point out. That is good. - That's great. - Like we talked yesterday on a scene. We talked yesterday about like him getting ingratiated into the, you know, the social club of the team, with the other youngish guys. And here we go. This is very important. Obviously the thing that is most important, he becomes a superstar player. - Yeah. - But becoming a part of the team and being comfortable early is, as we've talked about so much with Colosov, a real big deal. - Yeah, yeah. - And here we see, and I just, I find this very encouraging for the way this season is gonna go. - I like this because, and this is based on nothing, but my own interpretation of vibes. I feel like this is the popular group. Like this is the cool kids table in the Flyers locker room. Like these guys are the cool guys. - The young, the younger guys. - Like because I think guys like Koots and Lawton, like they are very well respected. - Sure, sure, sure. - But they're all so old. - Just starting. - Yeah. - They're all right. - Yeah, they're right, exactly. Like this is the core group of dude bros. This is who Joel Fariby was referencing when he tweeted that he was missing the homies. - This is the homies. - This is who Mitch Koff needs to be in with. And it's awesome to see these guys just being like, yup, he's our boy. Here he is. - I kind of knew they were gonna do it. - I thought, yeah. - And the one, and granted, there was a pre-existing connection here because York and Drysdale knew each other via the Zegris connection. But the fact that Drysdale gets traded and within a month, he is going on the all-star game bi-week trip. He's on that trip. Like York maybe knew him a bit. Nobody else did. It was just like, yeah bro, come on. Come to the Bahamas or wherever they went. And it just seems like that group is a pretty open group. - I like it. - It just seems like they're like, yeah, you seem cool. Come join us. - Right. - And honestly, from their standpoint, it's like, yo, things around here have fucking sucked. Is this guy gonna make us good? - Yeah. - Or are we gonna get in places for free now? 'Cause the team's relevant? Like that would be nice. - Yeah. - That shit probably plays a big part of it. - People are like, oh shit, they do fine. - And obviously they do fine. - Obviously, Motvay also can't be a dick. But we're crossing our fingers that he's not a dick. - Yeah, like, yeah, no. I do wonder like, how are they communicating? Is it straight Google? Translating William. - I watch a lot of 90 day fiance. I've seen entire relationships flourish through cell phones. Like just people translating on cell phones. It can be done. We're gonna talk about it a little bit. But you don't have to be isolated because you don't speak the language. - You can this, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Show B is like, did you see that hocker all in the third row? Like, they can do it. It's fine. Like they can figure it out. They're young. - I will say like, my buddy, Cubby, he did date a young lady for like 10 years and she spoke very little to no English. It worked. - Come on, to do it. - I mean, it worked. - It's a healthy relationship there. But I guess it's possible. - Who wants to talk to B? - He spoke zero Spanish either. But like, I'm just happy to see it happening like in a setting like this in the off season. Well before training camp and all the rigors of dealing with John Tortorella have happened. - Yes. - Also, we know that Michkoff can be abrasive at times with demanding a lot from his teammates. Having a base of like, yeah, we drank, we hung out. He's cool. Even if he yells at Russia a couple times. Like, and I'm not sure if he's yelling at me or just yelling in general, he's fine. You know, Maddie's cool dude. - Yeah. - No, that's like having our, yeah, like on the ice, he's a certain way. But he's our boy off of it. Probably softens that a little bit. - Yeah. - Like at least, like, all right. - Yeah, man, like he's awesome and we're, we're all right. - Yeah. - It is what this and that's just the way it's gonna be. But I was just happy to see this thing unfold. And it's, those guys have done this shit before. And they kind of, all right. Yeah, man, we go and meet the manager and we talk to the guys a little bit and they come up to you. I was like, all the Phillies players coming up to Mishkov in the, in the dugout. I'm just like, they have no idea. They have absolutely no idea who this today is. - Hard, hard, hard, hard for us. - Hard for us. - 'Cause Harper's a hockey guy. - Not a hard bird, just in. - Well, and well, he's not like a die-heart, but he goes to games and shit. - He's from Vegas. He lives the Golden Knights. Like he got into that whole thing. - He went to that Columbus game just 'cause he happened to be in Columbus. - Oh, that's fun. - Yeah, that was funny as hell. - Harper definitely knows who Mishkov is. - Yeah. - He also, Harper's such a Philly guy now. There's no way he hasn't been following the excitement around Mishkov. - No, that's definitely like, I picture Harper has like a binder of like, shit he needs to know. - And Mishkov has shown up at the binder recently. So he's just studying. So that was, I just thought that was good to see. Another thing I wanna talk about, I just saw this. It showed up in the fly-by today. But the top 25 players of the 21st century list on ESPN, honestly, one of my buddies just sent this to me 'cause I was like yelling about lists the other day in like this group chat where we just talk about things I hate in the media, basically. And like, I think like historical lists have more merit than the, hey, you're the top quarterbacks right now. It's like, I don't care what you think. Like, I'm really, oh yeah, we have, who we have pressed on to five and we have heard to date. - All right, whatever. But this list I think is entirely tame and pretty okay. Like I'd have Datsu Kire, he comes in at like 22 behind like Co-Pator. - As Bella. - Yeah, that's the reverse of Reese's. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a young person. - We haven't remembered him. He hasn't played in the NHL in years. People have forgotten just how great he was. - But I think this is mostly a pretty tame list. - It's okay. Except, like I put Lidstrom over Kane. - Yes. - And like, look, like Kane, great player. I may not, I may not think highly of him as a person, but Lidstrom is the best defenseman I've watched in my life. - He's real good at it. - Lidstrom is probably one of the two best defenseman of all time. Like also he did have a whole, I don't know, law, but like he had a pre-21st century career as well. So there's some, but like he won, you know, every North trophy. And he retired not because he wasn't good. It was like, oh, I'm not like one of the five best men in hockey, where I guess I just can't do this anymore, I am sorry. I am simply only top 10 to 10 years old, but they have, like, all right. You want to put Brodo or on here, fine, whatever. They have more Andre Flurry on this list at number 18. - 18. - And like, over Vasilowski. - What are we doing? - All right. - And like a key accomplishments, three-time Stanley Cup champions. - He did do that. - I guess. - He was there. - Like he's the backup for two of them. - Yeah. - Like, he was there. - Whatever, but overall, like just scrolling this list, do you think there were any like, that's who should be higher? That's who should be higher. Kane, I guess-- - Kupitar! - Is he one of the 25 best? - He's the best player on a team that won two cups, which is like real hard to do this day in it. - I guess, yeah, yeah. - Like, the guys who have won the multiple cups in the cap era are like Crosby. - I'm just, yeah, yeah. - Kane and him. - Yeah, I guess. - You know, everyone else has been kind of a one and done situation, I guess. - And you want to reward him, but quick is on the list as well. I think he was number 25. - Yeah, that's another one where I'm like, ah! - Quick was awesome. - I would not put quick on there. - On a list of the top, I mean, like, if we were like really narrowing the window of time we were talking about here, or you could make an argument for John to go with at one point. - But since, I guess we're gonna go-- - Yeah, I did. - Are we going with the real definition of 21st century? Or since 2000, that's probably the top of this. - Well, even then, like, if you have to put another L.A. King on the list, I would put Dowdy over quick. - Really? - Yeah, and Dowdy's still going and he's still real good. - He's still good. - I guess, quick being American, I think, plays in here. And it's like, yeah, like, among US career leader and wins and shut outs among US-born goalies. He did win the two cops. He did get one caught smite, right? - I just think there is, and this is understandable. There's a bias on this list towards the players that are playing now. Because we're watching them now. Like, I don't think that Leon Drey's title is the 13th best player of the 21st century. I think he's very good. - No. - I do not think he is, like, he's never been the best player on his team. - Man. - And, like, I question whether he is, I question whether, like, I don't question whether Evgeny Malkin could not have been the best player on any other team in hockey. I question whether Leon Drey's title, he's the best player on the Detroit Red Wings, if the Red Wings are a cop contender. I'm unsure. - This is why you write this. - It is, no. I think you do have to do that for an effective list. Like, if I would have Leon Drey's title on this list. - I might have one on the list, I wouldn't have a 13. - I don't know if I would have him over Joe Thornton. - I don't know if I'd have Flurry or Quick on here. - I don't think I would have Leon Drey's title had awesome Matthews. I think awesome Matthews is a better hockey player. - I agree. - Yeah, I would take Matthews over Drey's title. - I agree. But there have been times, and, like, I might have him, like, 20 or something. But there have been times McDavid has been out, and Drey's title's going not. - Sure. - Like those, and it's small sample size, but it's happened. Like, I don't want to quibble over a guy that's at 13. I'm like, yeah, I might have him at, like, 19. Like, I think that's okay. I just think, honestly, the inclusion of Mark Andre Flurry on this list is insane. And I'm all for him going in the Hall of Fame, because I think he's part of the story of hockey. - It's not of the era. - Yeah, like, Hall of Fame is not Hall of Great Statistics. It's the Hall of Fame. And if you are a star-level, like, a known commodity like Mark Andre Flurry, that is totally fine if you make the Hall of Fame. But, like, 25 best foot... No, I'd have Claude Drew on this list before Mark Andre Flurry. And I'm not saying Claude Drew belongs on the list, but if I was gonna rank them, I'd probably have them ahead. - I think it's definitely hard. - There's a lot of things. Like, true doubt, he absolutely belongs on the list over Mark Andre Flurry. But they also don't want to... Everyone just includes goalies. Like, I understand wanting to be like, "Well, we need to be inclusive of goals." - Gotta have to goalies on there. - We don't want to just have a hundred-blown quest, and that's it. Like, I get it, okay. But... - He wasn't on there? - He is, yeah, you know, he obviously should, yeah. But that's it. If you want to check it out, it's on ESPN. It's list season. And honestly, in terms of, like, lists you see, especially given the outlet, I don't think this is horrible. - No, no, it's one of the tamer lists. - Yeah, I'll say, it's fine. - It's fine. - So it is Slapshot Day, but before we get into that, I want to tell you that one of our newest partners here, this is an exciting one for me. It is Bet365, our new sports book partner here at PHLY. And I can tell you about some of the general talking points. You know, 90 million users worldwide. Bet365 live streams, 780,000 events each year. The live in game betting. They were one of the pioneers of live in game betting. But I'm going to tell you about one of these features that's really freaking cool. The early payout offers across NBA, NFL, NHL, and Major League Baseball. Really good stuff here. If your team, say you're betting some hockey on Bet365, your team goes up by three goals. Automatic payout. You don't have to sweat out the, you don't have to sweat out. 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How many times did you go into the bathroom in your life? It was a lot of fun. You get to talk to one of the Hanson brothers. Look at Bill's face. You're so happy. Dude, it was so happy. I was like, I'm just getting, I'm just going to bullshit with this guy about the movie. And it was really fun. Dave Hanson, this has always been the wildest thing to me. So Dave Hanson, his character in the movie, there's actually three brothers, the Carlson brothers. They were on the Johnstown Jets in the '70s. All three of them were supposed to be the Hanson brothers in the movies. One of them actually couldn't make it 'cause his team was in the playoffs. So he filled in as a Hanson brother and then killer Carlson is based on Dave Hanson. That just went to some other random guy. Everything about this movie is very, very weird. The lore, very important. But the thing I had to say to him was like, you were in a movie in the '70s with Paul freakin' Newman. And if you were to pull a hundred random hockey fans, they would mention the Hanson brothers before they mentioned "Red's Done Law." He's like, yeah, man, my life has been crazy. (laughing) I've been playing this character now. So I would watch this movie. I saw this way too young, wildly inappropriate, but this is what happens when a lot of your friends are a few years older than you, and we all played hockey, and then like rainy days, my buddy would bring over the VHS tape, a slap shop, like, let's watch this. All right, John, you're like 12, and I'm seven. Yeah, let's watch this movie. Let's watch this movie, I guess. - Wow. - What was the first time you saw the movie? Like, can you remember being like, oh yeah, this is like a hockey classic. Like, was it a thing you remember seeing young? - I wasn't too young. There was a period of time when I was really settling into being a hockey person, which in the late 90s was like a very niche thing to be. And so I kind of just started like absorbing hockey things. It's like when I got into the Tragically Hip, it's when I saw a slap shot. It's like when I took my first road trip to Canada to see Junior's games. Like, it was like a period of time in like the early aughts when I was doing all of these things, and that's when I saw a slap shot. And I believe I rented it from a blockbuster. - A blockbuster. - Yeah, I don't have the like, as a kid watching, sorry, what I remember about slap shot was that it was one of those movies where like, my dad would talk about how funny it is, but then be like, you can't watch it. Like, when you can watch that when you're old, you can't watch it. So I think I first watched it probably in like my early 20s. - Okay. - I think it was when it was like, okay, I should probably watch all these movies that like, you need to watch, and that was one of them. And I think I just rented it and watched it. - I just remember, there was this one time, like my grandparents, and they were like, older religious people, but like, you know, would watch a good comedy. My mom was like, oh, this hacky movie, you and your dad are always talking about, let's watch that with pop. I was like, they don't know how to say we shouldn't do that without like ratting myself off. So I guess I'll just put this on and see what happens. And we got like 10 minutes in, and my mom was like, what the fuck is this? How do I even wanna let him get him watch this? And my dad's like, I don't know. (laughing) He's just blaming me. God damn it, I'm a child. How's this might fall? Do you just let me watch it? I don't know. - Exactly. - But it is a movie that I feel like so many hockey fans saw way too young. I remember reading this Bill Simmons article back in the day, and it was Kate Winslet said she wasn't doing nude scenes anymore. It was like for a certain generation, that's like first nude scene you ever saw. For his generation, he was like, slap shot. He was like, shit, me too. It's like 20 years younger than you. And that's just the kind of movie it was, and it had all these things. - Well, I think there's an element with slap shot too, and this can't be removed from the appeal of slap shot. It's a good move, to be sure. But there aren't a ton of hockey movies. - Yes, absolutely. - And there also aren't a ton of hockey movies, really aren't a ton of hockey movies, that try to capture the like, I don't even want to say darker side, but just like kind of like the CD under belly of hockey. - That's like, this isn't the Mighty Ducks. - Certainly not a children's movie like the Mighty Ducks. It's not an inspiring movie like Miracle, which is based on a true story. Like this, it's not like an NHL movie. This is as far away from the show as you can get, like small town, a minor league hockey. And like, yeah, this is, I mean, shit in the 90s with the AHL. This is still how they drew in fans. Yeah, man, of course, like we have these, some young players and some guys who are just, you know, as we'd call them now. But we got the Animal Plot A guys, but it's like, we have to have like four fighters on every team, right? Like this is the way it goes. This is how we get people to come watch hockey. But I will say, like beyond the violence and the vulgarity and the great laughs, and those are all real good reasons to watch this movie, there is like this tragic story of Reggie Dunlop and like Paul Newman, I think does an outstanding, like just does an outstanding job in this movie of like guy well past his prime. He looks a hundred out there on the ice. And he's like holding on in this federal league in the small, you know, Milltown and middle of nowhere of Pennsylvania. And I've always loved the idea, like the players on the team who are or will be one day in his spot where they have nothing else, they need him so they believe his bullshit. Killer Carlson, Denny Lemue, the captain, Johnny, like Ned's wife, Lily, who's like stuck in this town has nowhere nothing else going on. Like yeah, I buy in to whatever bullshit you're selling. And then like his wife who's seen everything is like this guy's a fucking whore. (laughing) And Ned, who they make a point to tell you, like he went to college, he doesn't need hockey. He's like, you're making shit up, man. This is real for a second. And the owner who's like, yeah man, I don't care. I'd rather fold the team than sell it. They all don't buy in, they all roll his eyes at his bullshit and like in tragically like trying to push the boulder up the hill and make something happen that is never going to happen. I think it's a tremendous story as well. But the thing everyone will take away from it is the vulgarity and vibe. - Oh yeah. - Like that's what makes the movie what it is. - Oh, to be sure. - I will remember. - That diatribe that you just went through, it's interesting. But I won't say that when I rewatched it for this that I had those kinds of deep thoughts. I do not. But what I will say is that seeing it, you know, I haven't watched this movie in a few years. I've probably watched this movie three or four times. This is like the third or four time I've seen it. The ending is better than I remember because it is one of those legitimately good, ambiguous endings where like he comes out, he comes up to his ex wife and he's walking alongside the car and he's spinning another yarn of he's taking the team to Minnesota. And like, you wanna believe that he is actually pulling it off. And she's just like, okay, bye. (laughing) - She gives so little of a shit. - Yeah. - She is moving out in the middle of the parade. It is the middle of the ship. He's in parade and she's like, I got my trailer. I'm getting the fuck out of town, man. The mill's closing, I don't give a shit. - But like in so many ways it is a dumb vulgar movie. But the ending is actually legitimately a little artistic. - Yeah, because you have, it's a commentary on just how full of shit this guy is. And like, maybe it's true. - Maybe they are going to Minnesota, but like he's just run out of bullshit to sell at least with this one woman. - I have seen this movie hundreds of times. Do they ever tell you that they're like in the championship until they're like in the championship? - No. - It just sort of happens. - Yeah, it's just sort of happens. - It's just, who'd have-- - There's no real play off front. They play Syracuse and then it's like, oh, surprise, we're playing Xerxes again and it's the title. (laughing) - So I wanted to ask you guys a question about this. So I think, I can't remember. The problem is that we like each other so we talk sometimes not on this show. And I can't remember if we talked about it there. Anyway, we've talked about how the flyers when they won the cups were legitimately like stars. Like not kind of like way more than hockey players are now when they win the cup. Like people knew who the Broad Street bullies were. They were fucking famous. Famous. - Locally or nationally? - Nationally. - Like they were locally, they definitely were. I mean they were just working at stores. - So nationally, they were, I mean not like LeBron level, but they were more like everyone. I feel like a lot of people knew who they were without being like die hard hockey fans. And I wonder like if the bullies hadn't been such a thing and hadn't won the way that they did and been the Broad Street bullies and had that moniker. Like would this movie like written by a random woman about her brother, I think, who played in this shitty hockey game? - No doubt played. - He was one of those teams. - And he plays Ogi. - Yeah. - Somehow you get Paul Newman in this movie and it turns into like an actual holly. Like I just wonder if like that little bit of like Philadelphia cultural touchstone like played a part in this movie actually getting to be what it was. - I might have. - I think it absolutely, even though it came out in '77. - Exactly. - I think I've absolutely had to. - Like let's be honest, Hollywood producers and Hollywood studios, they're not original. And you can see it if you watch like it, when a movie pops up today, like you can, if you think about it for more than a few seconds, you can envision how that was pitched to the studio where it's like, oh, like imagine this, but with this. And it's like, oh, that's how that movie got pitched. And I would not be at all shocked if Slapshot was pitched as what if the Bruschery bullies, but in small town, middle of nowhere? - Yeah, with, you know, labor and ownership and what happens when a mill leaves a city. Like there's all kinds of, you know, the new shit. - Like what if we took that and put it in minor league hockey in the middle of nowhere and then got a star to be the lead? And it's like, sure, we'll fund that one. Why not? - Yeah. - I don't know. - I definitely think that is a major part of it. And it's definitely like a major part of its appeal to me. Like, for sure, and like, I've been trying, I don't know if we're gonna be able to make it happen, but like Paul Holmgren was on the Johnstown Jets. He never played with Ned Dowd. Dowd was there like the two years before him, but he played with the Carlson brothers. Like he played with Dave Hanson. Like they were teammates. And like, he ran the fucking flyers at one point. - You know, look, that is absolutely freaking insane to me. We're gonna get to like some of the stuff favorite character scene lie. Like we have the whole graphic and everything. Have you guys ever seen any of the sequels? - No, I have not. - There's a two and a three. - I am not. - I think I might have seen two and then blocked it out from my consciousness. - Two weeks. - I don't remember anything from it. - I would imagine like none of the big stars are in this series, right? - No, just the hands. - The hands. - Yeah. - Two is the team somehow still exists and they get sold to this. It's basically they're going to be the Washington generals. And there's a team that's gonna be the Globetrotters. And it's like this traveling fucking nonsense thing. And they eventually get worn down and they're like, nah, we're just gonna beat the shit out of them. - Yes, I have never seen three. - Starring the Bio-Dome guy. - Yeah, chill bits. - But it's, I wouldn't recommend any of the sequels. - No, you don't have to waste time with the sequels. - No, but let's get to some of the stuff that I wanted to do, the favorite character. Let's start with favorite characters. - I believe. - Now, I truly did not know which way this is gonna go and then figured out very quickly that me and Kelly are absolutely on the same page here. - It's Denny Lemieux. - It's Denny Lemieux. - It's so good. - You guys, the rookie goalie, Denny Lemieux, and the, I mean, trade me right fucking now when he's just on the phone trying to like, someone's just telling him what to say. - Look at that perfect French Canadian accent. - Then hang on. - So good. - Hang on. - Look at the two. - Oh. - Oh. - First of all, can we talk about him being rookie? How old was everyone in the 1970s? It's so funny that people look so old back then. - I'll tell you. - Like this comes up all the time when you're like, this is what my grandfather looked like when he served in World War and it's like, he looks like he's 90s, 18s. - Right, yes. - Smoking indoors. - Seriously. - Is absolutely, there's never been a better advertisement against smoking inside than what people looked like in the '60s and '70s compared to now. - It's so old. - Like, yeah. - Yeah, it's a good point. - That is a good point. Denny Lemieux is definitely my favorite kind of thing. - He's not in like all of the scenes, but whenever he's in a scene, it's one of the funniest scenes. - Exactly, he's making you laugh hysterically. - I will get to this overarching scene 'cause when we get into it. But one of my locust, and I honestly forgotten about it until I re-watched it when Obie Oglethorpe comes in and then he's like, "Oglethorpe!" (laughing) And he's like, hard-fi. Like the sincere look of horror on his face when he like says Oglethorpe's name in a French Canadian accent is the best. French Canadian accents are so good. - They really are. - 'Cause they're not like regular French accents. - No. - There's something entirely different. - No, something entirely. - I kind of like burned into my brain. This is like very random. A memory of Marty Buron on television talking about something and he said, "Toot paste." (laughing) And it's like seared into my memory. It's like one of my favorite things. Anywho, I love the French community. - For my favorite character, I mentioned this to Dave Hanson in the interview. Like the efficiency of Moe in this movie, every time he's on the screen, he is being absolutely ridiculous. Like he's never not on screen being hilarious. I just, I love like the faces he makes. Like his mannerisms, the stories he tells, which are absolutely, well, it definitely lies in ridiculous. - Oh yeah. - Like he's, to me, one of the funniest characters in the movie, and like there's so many little characters, like Walt, the bus driver. - Oh yeah, he's got-- - Like just hitting the bus with the sledgehammer. - Yeah, yeah. - Walt, what do you do? Make it up like me? - Make it up like me. (laughing) - Just getting in the fuckin' sledgehammer. Like there's so many good little characters in this movie that make it so great, but I gotta go with Moe, because just like, his faces and shit that he makes are so great. Favorite scenes, and like every scene in this, like when I was watching it, I was like, I'm gonna write this one down. I'm gonna write, I've written down the whole movie. (laughing) I have literally written down the whole movie, but I think you two are, again, kind of on the same page here. - Okay, so my favorite scene, and there are great lines in the scene, but it's just the entire overarching scene to start to finish hilarious, is when they're setting up for the title game, and you find out that, sir, he's just bringing in all the rangers. And they just start like leading them out, like you have the one, when they bring in the one guy, whose name is Poodle. And the guy's like, no, Poodle! That might be Frankie's favorite line in the movie. - How good is named his fantasy team, not Poodle multiple times? - I get amazing. - Like sincere, genuine horror of like, oh my God. And then they bring in, like again, this is something that like, doesn't age terribly well, now they bring out the Native American, but just I will never, I will never not laugh. - He calls everyone, he plays little scouts, like it's great, and then they bring out Ogi Ogle Thorpe, which like, they do, and again, like it's a dumb movie, but they do such a good job of setting it up. It's like check-offs hockey player. - Yeah. - Like they said they spend the whole movie like, just in little aside talking about this lunatic, Ogi Ogle Thorpe, and you forget about it, 'cause it's just like, oh, like that's just like, you know, they're just tall, they're just shitting, shooting the shit in the locker room, whatever. And then when you see the PA announcer, like, get the, and he's like, oh my God, and they're like, oh my God, they're bringing out Ogi, and they do. - And he looks just as ridiculous as you would think, with the Afro, and just the look of horror of everyone on the bench, and then you have Denny being like, Ogi Ogle Thorpe, it's just start to finish like a good like two minutes of just constant laugh. - Also based on another real player, Bob Goldthorpe, there's, I think there's a book about like the real story of Ogi Ogle Thorpe, it's this guy Bob Ogle Thorpe, like it just, I love when they're announcing him, and they're like, his deportation back to Canada, and that country's subsequent refuses. - Yeah, and now he's just allowed to play for Syracuse. - I almost picked that as my favorite line, but then I decided like, no, it's just the whole scene. - It's a very good scene. - The, there's my excellent stuff. Kelly, what's your, oh yours is the, yeah, okay. - I mean, I was gonna do the chalk pick, which is the interview with Denny at the beginning, which is hilarious, start to finish. But just like one of those little scenes that made me laugh hysterically, is when the ref is like, they're doing a national anthem, and the ref you can like see him like stewing, and then he turns around and he goes to the handsons, and he starts yelling at them, and they're just like, we're listening to this song. - Yeah, that's my favorite line. - Yeah, that's my favorite line. - Listen to the fucking song. - There's this scene where it's when, when Paul Newman is trying to make Ned crazy by constantly picking at and hitting on his wife. And his wife is in the park drinking, kind of spying on Ned as he's like talking to other women around town. Just, he's really gonna blower away with his views on life like on crazy shit. - Ned probably said, and she's just like, there's this statue of a dog in the park that they're in. Just what's the story with that dog? It's like, save Charlestown from the 1939 flood. Well, fuck him. (laughing) - Absolutely love that scene so much. It's so good. There's so many good ones in this movie. I think, like, coach it, oh, that is my favorite line. - The favorite scene is the, when Reg goes to confront the general manager about acquiring the Hanson's. He's like, he's after he sees them like playing with race cars in the hotel room. - He just goes, they brought their fucking toys with them. - Rather have them playing with their toys than playing with themselves. (laughing) - They're too stupid to play with themselves. - Reg, that reminds me. - Coach in Omaha back in '48, any short sense with this player, terrible master painter. He used to get deliberate penalties to get a loan to the penalty box all by himself. - Oh my God. - Damn, if he wouldn't, he just makes this ridiculous. I laugh hysterically at that scene every time. We have got the favorite line I had for fuck him. - That's the one that I almost. - If you're watching, you shouldn't see this movie, 'cause you're not, honestly. - This really explains the way I am. - It's very much does. The other scene that I considered, or leave in line, but really it's a scene, and it's just one of those iconic scenes that everybody brings up, but it's iconic for a good reason when Denny Lemieux goes into the office. Who owned the Chiefs? Oh, and then he goes, oh, and then he then, Paul Newman's right there, like, what did he say? He said, oh, it's, oh, it's, it's like, oh, God damn, it's just such a good, like, he's just not gonna get, like, the GM is just like, yeah, I'm not giving you an answer. Like, the artful dodging of the questions. Like, the owns, owns, is so good. And then him mimicking it the best. What were the other favorite lines? 'Cause I missed the whole party. - Oh, the English pick with no brains from the new interview. - That's the opening interview where he explains all the penalties. - Right. - I was telling Bill, I forgot that was the open, it's been so long since I seen this movie, I forgot that was like the opening, opening scene of the movie. - It's fantastic. - It's so fun. - He's my fantastic, cold open. - Yes. - Denny is mic'd up, he goes and takes a piss, and then he comes back, it's like, trying to get the mic back on him, it's really, really good stuff. But I remember, like, my coach in middle school, like, I'm in the penalty box, and he's just like, you go in the box two minutes by yourself, and I'm like, you know, he's like, yes, I know it, Bill. - Everyone knows it. - How would I fuck him? - No, no, I just was like, oh my God, my favorite thing's, yes, of course I know this movie. - You'll shame, you gotta feel shame. - Two minutes by yourself, you feel shame. - You feel shame, and then you are free. - Then you are free, yeah. - Charles, what's your favorite line? - My favorite line is a listen to the fucking song. - Yes, it's very good. - As much as I love it. - I love how they look too. - They're like, the glasses are all mangled, they're bloody, they're blood all over them. So before the game even started, and it's just like, and then they're so sincere about, like, no, like, yeah, we are crazy goons, but when that national anthem-- - We honor the anthem. - We honor the anthem. - We stand for the anthem, God damn it. - No, that's really good stuff. Worst characters, this one was tough for me 'cause I just love it so much, but I had to go with Johnny Upton, who is the captain of the team, and I simply don't like him 'cause he's the only guy who wears a helmet. - Ooh. - Okay. - Now, maybe he's a genius, especially. - Someone say yes. - At one point he's getting his head bang on the ice, and I'm like, well thank God. But you know what, it's the '70s. What are you wearing a helmet out there for? But my one neighbor did have this helmet, and we would all fight over, like, trying to grab it and wear it in street hockey. Like the old blue, like, Jofa or something. - Yeah, yeah. - But that's it. He's my least favorite character. I think Miley's favorite, and it's less about him, because I think in a movie like this you do need a character like this, but it's Brayden, because he's the straight man. He is the boring guy who doesn't get any of this madness, and I get why he's in it. You kinda need that pivot. You need that fulcrum for everything else to revolve around. I get it, but he is just a buzzkill. He's the entire movie, he's a buzzkill, and like, yeah, at the end he does the strip tease, and that's funny, and of course that's the metacom, the commentary of the movie is like, everyone's totally fine with all this violence, but then you inject a little bit of like, you know-- - Balls, no way. - Yeah, that's just the most horrifying thing in the world, which is funny, but like for most of the movie, you're just kinda like, oh, come on, dude. Like, have some fun, lighten up. - Yes. - And I do, like, I love the, like, after the first one where Hanrahan jumps red, and then they score on the empty net, and they don't have a backup goal. He's like, it's a garbage win. It's wrestling shit out there. And then he does, like, the ultimate pageantry, like he's stripping down, like, the turn that he takes is tremendous, but yeah, he's an absolute freakin' buzzkill. - Yeah. - College-educated douche. - For similar reasons, I don't like Lily. She's just-- - Oh, his wife. - His wife, right? - Right, right. - She's just like, so whiny and annoying, like, you have a fuckin' hobby. Go volunteer an animal shelter. Why are you so whiny all the time? Like, I'm so sorry your life sucks so bad you have to live in this shitty little town. Figure out something. Besides drinking and driving your van around. - She does drink a lot. - A lot. - A lot. - And she took the dog. - Yeah. - That's all Ned wanted. He said, you take the van, I'll take the dog. And then she takes both when she loves. - And then of course, they went out there with the dress on and the makeup she's there when they win. Oh, now you're happy, aren't you? - Fair weather. Absolutely. Before we finish up this conversation about Slap Shop, which, Jesus, I can't wait to see the comments. Like, this movie is the least appropriate thing in the world. And it's absolutely true. Like, it is an offensive movie. But regardless, before we move on, I gotta tell you about our friends at Indeed, that's right. Now, world driven by the search for better, but when comes to hiring, the best way to search for a candidate isn't to search at all. It's to match and match with Indeed. Maybe that's the way the GM found the handsons, you know. They were looking for something specific. Maybe they found that match with Indeed. If you need to hire, you need Indeed. 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Is there anything else anyone really took away from the movie that they wanted to get into? I love how you're least favorite characters. Clearly, that's right. She's doing it. She's like, I want side like I see her side of it. Like, this is nonsense. You signed up for it. You knew your husband was going to play minor league hockey in a shit town. What did you think was going to happen when you got there? You did. You probably should have seen this comic. Yeah, and also, he's a professional hockey player. You knew he was going to do the other stuff too, sorry. Yeah. So one thing that is wild to me. And I knew this on some level. But I guess I just didn't like ever do the math. Is that like Paul Newman is 52 in this movie. You can originally Dunlop is supposed to be 52. And I don't. I don't think he's supposed to be that old, but he's definitely supposed to be old. He's like Joe Thorn. He's supposed to be in his like early to mid forward. And like, he's Paul Newman. So of course he looks younger than he actually always did. He was like the best fire. But by the same token, like he was at this stage of his career, he was doing movies where he was an older, he was like one of my actually favorite movies of this era, not a sports movie. I love the movie The Sting. I think The Sting is great. It's probably a top 20 movie of mine. And in that movie, Paul Newman is in it. He's great in it, but he is like the elder statesman to Robert Redford, who is like the young gone con man. And he was very much at the point of his career where he was taking on roles or he was, you know, the older character among younger characters. So I knew he was older. I did not realize like he is skating around at age 52 in this movie. - Doing pretty good too. - That's like when the scene where Dave Carlson like makes the, okay, he's gonna do it. He jumps the dude in the face off circle because he says Paul Newman's too old. - Oh yeah. - You're too old to play this fucking game. Take that sentence back and jump in. - He is four too old to be playing this game, especially at this level. - Yes. - And I guess it makes some sense 'cause he's like the player coach. - Yeah. - So he's also like, yeah, he is the coach of the team and everything, but he's, he's in his 50s. Like he has been weirdly ready. - Oh yeah. - This is what four or five years after The Sting. Like yeah, this is, this is it. Like this is, this is older Paul Newman in the movie. - It's eight years after Butch Cassidy, the Sundance Kid. - Yeah, so like five years later he does The Verdict where he's also another really good movie, but he's real friggin old in that one and he looks it. Like at least in this one, he's still trying. It's very clear he's trying to pretend he's younger than he is and like that plays into it is that like, you know, he's dressing young. Like, you know, he's still going out to bars. He's still, and that's part of it is that he's trying to keep the glory days going. - Yeah. - He's trying, you know, that one last con everybody to keep playing hockey. And you know, we're gonna keep going. And I mean, he says it's his last game, but like, is it really, like, come on. He's gonna, he's gonna get the eye on the ice next season for somebody. - He's younger. - Doing his shit. - He's younger, he's younger. - He's younger, still playing. - Exactly. - And they're, you know, honestly, that might make him more real because yeah, it's kind of the exact same thing. He's like, he's, he's playing to like, keep his dad's team afloat or whatever he's doing. That's basically what Paul Newman's doing. So, you know what, actually I buy it now. - This episode is brought to you by Shopify, whether you're selling a little or a lot. Shopify helps you do your thing, however you chit-ching. 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It's the off-season, watch some hockey movies. - You're reminding me of other stuff. - Other stuff. - Other stuff is great, yeah. - It does run like the other stuff shows was. Those were good times. - Yeah, good times during a bad time. - A horrible time, but there were some good things. We did our best to come up with a contest and I think we did an all right job. So what do we think in next? - So someone in your chat, when you first started talking about this, suggested Encino Man, which is very peripherally a hockey movie. - I've never seen that. - There's one I've never seen Encino in that. - I don't know if you know this about me. I fucking love Polyshore movies. I love them. - They are really trashed. - They really trashed. - I love Polyshore movies. So like if we were searching for a movie to do, I wouldn't be mad about having to watch Encino Man. However, it's not really a hockey movie. - I feel like we're doing peripheral hockey movies. We should do something like sudden death. - We want to refuse to talk to those valuable primates. I will not do it. - That was suggested to be your titter. - No, we're not doing those guys are priming. I refuse. I actually think I watched that movie once on the advice of someone and I regretted every moment of it. I was like, what's, how? - What would work for me convenience wise if we're doing peripheral hockey movies is I'm going to the Volgarathon this weekend. - Of course you. - The Kevin Smith Film Festival. - Don't have clerks. - Oh yeah, they do play hockey on the roof. - They sure do. - That's a hockey movie. - We'll see. Like I want to maybe stick to-- - We should probably stick to the class. - Like Mr. Alaska get that in there, but I'm going to put up a poll on our Twitter probably today. - Yeah, they have a poll on the poll. - And like two or three and that's what they want. - People a couple of options to see what people respond to. - But all right, let us get to the Super Chats. - Super Chats. - Super Chats. - We have, we got two Super Chats. First one from Adrian Franklin. - 399, Adrian. - It's in question. - It's in question, Adrian dollars. I don't know how that, how about the-- - Is that what that means? - You have the exchange rate. Well, he says much love from Austria. - Oh, okay, there we go. - Australia. - Australia. - Australia. - Sorry, Australia. - We do have a big Australian contingent. - That's wild. - We are pretty good. - That's cool. - That's cool. - I don't know in Australia. - And why Australia ends up in Vienna. Gets off the airplane and he's like, oh, I'm in the wrong place. - All right, so from Adrian Franklin, if Hunter McDonald becomes a standout defenseman and with the link he gets from elected into my veins, from the head office, does he have a chance of becoming captain after Kutz's time is up? He seems like good leadership. Much love from Australia. - He's the next pronger. - Probably. - Next pronger, baby. You heard it here for us. - No, he's not right it down. - Let's be honest here, guys. He's not going to be the next captain. He's going to be the next general manager. - Probably. - I mean, 40 years down the road, Hunter McDonald will be the general manager. And if we are still doing this, I want this clip saved so that when he becomes a GM, I can say that I freaking called it. - Oh my God, I'm hoping to be alive 40 years from now. I really hope it happens. - If any of us will be, it'll be you. We only have to be 110. - Yes, you sure you're body the worst and you will live longer than both of us to be sure. - That's like no stress. That's the key, no stress. - In all honesty, to go back to Hunter McDonald. Look, I can't say that I know him well. If he makes it as an HR player, hopefully I will build a relationship with him. What I will say is that he's a really nice guy at interview. He seems like a good dude, which like if you're going to play that role, you kind of have to be. I don't think he's going to be a goon, but he's not going to be a high scoring defenseman. - He's going to be smashed. - He's going to be a bottom half of the lineup guy who hopefully can do enough with the puck where he's not a liability when he also brings the physicality and the intimidation that they like. He seems like a good dude. I've chatted with him a few times, had nothing bad to say about him the person, hopefully develops into a good NHL player. - I will say, well, I don't expect him to become a high scoring defenseman. I will say that I was listening to the Chickles interview with Brock Faber this morning, and it did make me think about Hunter McDonald because he said he never played power play or anything with the development program or any of that. And then suddenly he's like doing it for the wild because everyone was hurt. And now he just signed a huge contract. - You never know, maybe. - You're probably going to be at least power play two now, but in the end of the year, Hunter McDonald, like he does have a decent first pass. He's a big guy. He got to figure he can at least develop a decent shot. - Let's not rule it out. - I was just thinking about that and it's funny we got a question about McDonald today. - Another player for Gainesville. - He has a heavy shot. - Yeah, he has a heavy shot. I would not expect to have put up many points in the NHL level, but hey. - Listen, you fire it enough. - You get that big shot. Maybe it can be like a Dan McGillis situation where it's like, yeah, just fire the puck, man. And we got whoever in front, get some tips, get some rebounds. - There we go. - It's a possibility. I'm not saying it's going to happen. - Probably never. - Anyway, from Linden 49, one thing about the '70s I miss is with the lack of helmets. I knew the name of every player in the league by sight alone in '76, I was 26. - Wow. - Okay. - I always wondered how we do with this generation and at least Linden 49 is here every day. - No, no. - It makes me happy. - The fact that Linden will regularly bring up things that it's very clear, like, was lived through, I knew Linden 49 was older. I did not know Linden 49 was born in 1950. Wow, that's pretty dope. It's really cool. Way to go. Linden is now one of my favorite listeners. - Yeah, it's neat. - Yeah. I will say that-- - I am horrible recognizing the players by sight. Like, a lot of flyers players. I'm like, well, they're red-headed. So, and Aaron's down to, like, two or three for me. But I needed to, like, really look at the photo of Miskov and who we was there with. Like, I am terrible. And I'm terrible at this in real life, not just with players. - No, yeah. - Recognizing people and knowing their names. Ava's like, you've met this person. That's my cousin. - Yeah. - But you have so many goddamn cousins. - If you ask me right now to pick Eric Johnson out of line up, I couldn't do it. Oh, what he looks like? - Ah, I don't think I should. - You show me a picture of Eric Johnson. That will be when I remember what Eric Johnson looks like. - Maybe if I saw this. - I never remember what these dudes look like. I know the back of their jersey. That's all I mean. - When I was a little kid, I went to get Sean Poteen's autograph at the Deafort Mall in, like, a footlock or something. I had no idea what age, like eight or nine probably. Plus, that was back in the day when, when you watched the games on TV, you could-- - Yeah, yeah, you could see their faces now. - I just, like, walked up to somebody with, like, this little, like, notebook I had that I got, like, autographs in. And it was, like, an employee at the fucking, like, famous footwear or something. - I love that. - And they all started, my dad was, like, embarrassed, and everyone there just started crapping up. - That's amazing. - And he just, like, pointed. - Like, I don't know. I know what he looks like at a flyer's jersey. He was just wearing regular clothes. - I love that I got Sean Poteen's autograph at a car dealer. - Yeah. - They just sent him everywhere. - They just sent him everywhere. - They sent him everywhere. - And the guy they traded him away for. - Is now the president of hockey operations. - What a time villa. - My goodness. - Amazing. - All right, no, I will say the one thing that I don't, and I am very much an NFL fan, like, I love football, but, and I'm not saying they shouldn't play without helmets, but what I'm saying is that, like, aside from the top four or five guys, I have no idea what eagles players look like. - And we very much would like to thank our diehards for all their contributions. We couldn't do it here without your diehards, so thank you very much. Go to all PHLY.com to become a diehard. All right, do we have anything else today? I think that pretty much wraps it up. Clean our show, you know. No more super chats, outstanding. Wow, two o'clock, and we're actually wrapping on time. This is maybe a first of the office. - You may bring up something nonsensical and talk about the 20 bucks. - Yeah, dude. They're gonna trade for Zegris right now, and we're gonna have to start to show all of it. All right, and that is all the time we have for you on PHLY Flyers today. Thank you all for listening. Thank you for hanging out. If you haven't already, you gotta hit that subscribe button. Hit the like as well. We need those thumbs up. It's good for us, apparently. And set those reminders, so you never miss a live show. We'll be back tomorrow and the rest of the week at one o'clock. Make sure you follow us on Twitter @PHLY_Fliers. Follow the podcast as well, PHLY Flyers wherever you find those. That'll do it. My name is Bill Mattes. That's Charlie O'Connor. That's Kelly Hinkle. Until tomorrow, fam, stay loose and sexy, Philly. [MUSIC PLAYING] Y'all sitting like the man. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] You You