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[MUSIC] [MUSIC] Hey everybody, how you doing? Well, that's good. You're listening to PHL Lifeliers. My name is Bill Matts. I'm your director of fun and games for the afternoon. Joining me as always is Philadelphia's number one hockey beat reporter. It is Charlie O'Connor. Let's go to on today, Chuck. I am so happy. It's not a hundred degrees, eh? It's so happy. I have this little, like, XFINITY thing in my kitchen that, like, my security system's connected to, but I really just use it to know what the weather is. Go out, take a shower, go out in my kitchen, 77 feels like 77. I was like, holy shit. This is incredible. Listen, I am never one to complain about the weather because it's like the fucking weather. There ain't a goddamn thing you can do about it. But like two straight weeks of 104 feels like is insane. It's right. That is an insane period of time to go through. I will say it's wild that I went to Las Vegas where it was, where the temperatures were in the hundreds every single day, came home and there was basically no relief. It was functionally, it felt the same because while Vegas was hotter, it's not as humid. This was a bit cooler, but significantly more humid. So in terms of sheer discomfort, it was pretty much the same. I always think the, like, the dry heat thing is bullshit. But when it's the same temperature and humid, it's like, oh, well, yeah, it's not so dry heat. Yes. So is my oven. Yeah. When it's 400 degrees, like it sucks. The thing with the dry heat deal is that it definitely does feel different without the humidity. It doesn't have the same feeling of you're getting pressed down into the pavement like it does when it's humid, but it doesn't change the fact that if you're out there for more than five, 10 minutes, you're going to be drenched in sweat and it's unbelievably, unbaryingly hot. Like that doesn't change. It's just a different kind of pain. This has been the weather with Charlie and Bill. Yeah. And now we have sports on the twos. It is too after. So we can get to that, but no, it's as we've been talking about, it's rank week. And as the different flyers games have come out from the overall Philadelphia top 25 list, we've talked about them briefly. But of course, the way we did this, the top 25 list was compiled by each beat makes a top 10 list since 1980, the best games. And then the list was parsed down from there, the four sports, sorry, union. You haven't been along around long enough to have any games on this list, but they're pretty old at this point now, aren't they? They've never quite like, yeah, it's, but still, you know, it's soccer. So the top 14, that's all that's all work. All right. Co is a pie. So I listen to each their own, you know, if they feel like maybe, you know, if they feel like making fun of professional wrestling, they can go right ahead. I mean, I do. I do often. I don't know if it's a joke or not, but I'm pretty sure I saw that Hulk Hogan is going to be speaking at the RNC. And I mean, yeah, that's pro wrestling. That's personal. Listen, I get it. I think I will not, I'm not saying this to slander other sports, but especially in Philadelphia, there is the big four. There is. It's just undeniable. And I know, I know, I know the union have a big following and that's great. But the heart, the heart truth is that MLS is not one of the top leagues in the world. Whereas the NHL is that's the NHL is the best hockey league in the world. MLS does not have a case to be considered to be a tier one league in the same way that the premise and the same way that Spanish league is like, it just doesn't. And like that's just a fact. And union fans have to at least acknowledge that when your league is set up as a parody. And by that, I mean, half the teams, oh, we're, you know, a real saw, like, there's nothing real about you. You're fucking Utah. Like, that's a really good point. No, I'm sorry that you stole your name from some other club that is a real club, but, you know, a 14 year old played for the union last night. Wow. Awesome. DC United, baby. Well, awesome. That kid couldn't get a job at pizza hut. It would be illegal. Yeah. As a former pizza employee, you know, yeah, they say I've got hired at 16 and then they stopped hiring 16 and 17 year olds because they had to give them breaks. So they're like, no, we're just only going to hire a team when you get a half hour off. Absolutely not. Anyway. So yeah, rank week, I don't even know how we got here. Do we ever did you? If you haven't realized it's mid July, first five minutes of the show should be a dead giveaway. But yeah, so it's rank week and we parse down the list, but I just figured, you know, there's been three games announced so far for the flyers on the top 25 list. There's, I assume one left hasn't gotten to spoil or it's going to be in the top two on this list. So why not just go through our top 10 here and kind of see where we end up, see where people disagree that we have some honorable mentions I want to get to at the end and then just some times that I'm like, man, we really should have something from some of this. And it's like, well, it's top 10 list can't have, can't appease everybody. So let's start with number 10 from mine and Charlie's list, the 2019 stadium series game against the penguins at Lincoln financial field. That comes in at number 10. The flyers win it in overtime. Captain Claude Giroux scores the winner. They trailed three one with three minutes left JVR and Jake Voorcek score the goals to push it to overtime. And then Claude Giroux comes through with one of his one of his maybe final great memories like game 1000 his last game. Yeah. The last game. Like that was, that was an amazing, like that was an event. Yeah. That was an event. It was a send off. But this was an actual thing he did. This was like almost the exact same shot as the 2012 game that I'm sure we'll get to in a little bit when Peter Lavi let dubbed him the best player in the world, which honestly ruined his legacy here for the next 10 years. But no, this game, I'll always remember this game finally because one, it's I've been to all the flyers outdoor games is the only one they ever won. And two, late in the third period, looking at Ava, we're in the she secured tickets in the Nova care box for us. It was a miserable day. It was a miserable day. We were inside, which was nice. Yeah. We were in the Nova care box. But I'm like, it's going to be a fucking mad house getting out of here. Like it's the link. It's sold out. Yeah. Again, an Uber or whatever, it's going to be a real pain in the ass. You think maybe we would have bail and she holds that against me to this day. And I mean, you wanted to leave. She should. You wanted to leave. It's not over yet. And then they like immediately came back and then an amazing ending. And I always like, I hate leaving early. Just don't believe in it. And that day I was like, it sucks out here. It's going to be a shit show leaving. Let's just go. And she's like, absolutely not, like we cannot leave. And thank God, because it's, I mean, there's not a ton of recent shit on this list, Charlie. Yeah. And the one thing about that game and the way the flyers tied it, that needs, because that's why I'm talking about how the weather was really bad. The flyers don't make that comeback if the weather isn't terrible, because the goals they score, particularly the Jake Vore checking triangle, like they were unbelievably weak. And it was because the ice service was so bad, because it was raining the whole time. Like the goalies pads were waterlogged by that point, because it had been raining pretty much the whole game. So the flyers probably lose that game if it's played indoors, if it's played in a normal atmosphere, they lose that game and never gets to overtime. But because it's an outdoor game, it does. And it gets to overtime, which gives Cludger the opportunity for the heroics. And I mean, look, I covered the team that year. That was a miserable season. That was a 28, 20, 18, 2019 season. That was the year that hack and hex both get canned. Not everything was terrible, but anyway, they both get canned in the seasons of disaster. Because if you remember, like the reason why hex stall gets canned, well, not the reason, but the excuse for it was they get utterly decimated two times, I believe in four nights, ending with a game in Toronto, where they just got obliterated. And then that Monday is when they fire hex stall, then obviously Fletcher gets brought in, hack gets fired because he was his own. It's kind of got forced into it, but I think hack was on the way out at some point. Well, that was the whole thing. And expedite it. Yeah. My point is though, is that this is a miserable year. This is the year of nine goalies, 10 goalies, whoever many goalies they had. It was a bad year. But this was the one good thing that happened in that year. There was a cool game at the link. The Flyers did a good job of presenting it. I very vividly remember the gritty antics, pretty streaky, that was very funny. And then the underlying story, which you have up here was the fact that going into the game, it was abundantly clear that Wayne Simmons is on the way out. Yeah. And I'll never forget covering that game because the, the availability, most of the availability was in the locker room and we go in after the game and you could just see everyone on the team like going over to like to shape Wayne's hand to, to pat him on the head to, you know, just kind of thank him for everything he had done before we even got access to Simmons. That was still going on. And this was after, and I believe they all, they eventually released the video. It was after Jake Vorchek had a really nice end of game locker room speech, you know, saying how much Wayne Simmons meant to him as a teammate and as a friend. And it just added another layer to this game beyond the Drew dramatic game winner, which was already pretty frickin cool that he did it outdoors against the Penguins. And it's the farewell to, you know, one of the key players of the era and an ultimate fan favorite flyer in Wayne Simmons. Yeah. It was, it was really cool. One lasting memory I have and obviously the Drew winning it and over time, all that stuff, the weather. I have one lasting memory and it's Shane God's despair laying a brutal fucking hit in the neutral zone on Crystal time, like laid him out and like it's Shane God's despair. Not exactly his game. And I'm like, okay, all right. At least we got something out of this. We got a penalty. There were a lot of cool things about that game, yet ghost throwing hits. I remember, I think even Nolan Patrick threw a hit. If I remember correctly, like a big one, which is very unlike him, you had the, the Travis Connect me miked up where he spent the entire game chirping, just saying a bunch of it that doesn't make sense. It was like, it was earcuffs, the earcuffs that I was born at night, but it wasn't last though. Like that's, that has no meaning in this context. The best, I think my favorite part of that miked up video is, yeah, I think it's Jake Genssel goes back to me. Shut up. Like just annoying the shit out of it. So great. Yeah. So that comes in at a number 10 on our list. We got a number nine and it is a another regular season game. This one of considerably more consequence final game of the shoot of the season in 2010 comes down to a shootout. Just the way we all drew it up, Brian Boucher, verse Henry Clunquist. And obviously Brian Boucher came away with that one. What a freak it. Like winner take all game comes down to historically the thing the flyers have struggled with most since the lockout. Oh, yeah. Shoot out against the best goalie ever. Yeah. This is probably going to go well. It did. Yeah. And it did. And it kicked off like a two month straight wall month and a half stretch where everything that could go right for the flyers just all of a sudden things start going right for the leg. Yeah. You know, and that season, another one where going back to December, they fire the coach. Right. John Stevens was like, yeah, he might just be too close with some of these players and they weren't terrible, but they definitely weren't dominating the way the team was put together. I went to the game right before right before the game before Stevens got fired. It was a game against the the Canucks and they play like crap because my buddy in college of the time was from British Columbia. So we're like, okay, we're going to this game. And the fires are listless. They just were completely irrelevant in that game. And I remember walking out of the stadium with him walking back to the the subway station and being like, that's the kind of game gets coach fired. Then my next day. Great. It's fire. Lavi comes in. They struggle a little bit right away as he changes systems and things just take off. Michael Layton joins the team at some point and it really just kicks off the best run of our lifetime. Yeah. I mean, there's no other way to put it. And the guys who score Breyer and Jeru, you have Boucher is a hero and it's his, I think this is only his second stint at this point. Then he had a third one later on. Yeah. I would equate this run as a Philly fan. This run was very similar in retrospect to the the Phillies run to the World Series when they lost the Astros where, you know, this was a team that, you know, didn't necessarily have the full, the full trust of the fan base. And then over a one to two month span turned into such a popular team that everyone in the city got behind. Because if you remember that Phillies run, like, I remember that first series, the whole thing was like, well, the, the final two months of the year was they're not going to make the playoffs. They never make the playoffs. They always choke. And then they get in the first series like they're not going to win a game and they're about to get blown out of that game one and they come back and win it. And then it was just off to the friggin races. Charlie, I was hosting like WIP shows in mid September, getting calls like they might make it. They don't even deserve it. Exactly. Exactly. I don't even want them. And those are the kind of conversations that were around the flyers. Yeah. Well, they might make the playoffs. But there are seven underachievers, you know, Richard is a bad captain, pro, isn't even that good. Like this was the narrative. And then in a month and a half, two months, it all gets flipped on his head. And that never happens if the flyers don't be long quest twice in the shootout. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy the narrative as we go through this list, there's going to be a few more, but like the narrative of rail club, Jeru, and like how many times he's going to pop up in terms of clutch moments. Like, yes, he did in the second part of his career have some disappointing playoffs. But God damn, he came through so freaking off. Yep. And one of the honorable mentions on here is that, oh no, the game did make it. So we're going to get to it when we get to that. But let's go to number eight now. And this is one 2004 game six against Toronto, the J are in Jeremy. I'm saying both at the same time, Jeremy Ronik, overtime goal that basically ended the Leafs franchise. Yeah. They've never recovered. They've really never recovered. They have won a series now. Yeah. But we can't say that anymore. That was really fun. But did it go six? What's that? Did it go six? Did it only go five? What? Which the Toronto making it to the second round again? Oh, I don't remember. I don't remember either, but just like, have they made it to a game six in a second round yet? Because if not, they still haven't gotten this for yet. It's fair. But this is, yeah, Ronik scores the, Ronik scores the winner in overtime. And the lasting memory of this game is the Darcy Tucker hit. Oh, yes. The Sammy Cap and play is what everyone remembers. We were talking about this one before we went on air today. And I basically said that, you know, the reason why I can't put this one much higher is because I, and Grant, I wasn't, I wasn't that old, but I wasn't that young either. Like I was a teenager. I should remember this entire game. I don't remember much about this game, aside from the end, like the final two, three minutes were bonkers. And that Darcy Tucker hit on Sammy Cap and in him, trying desperately to get back to the bench, falling multiple times, essentially getting dragged over to the bench by his teammates. But because of that, it keeps the play going. And if there's a stoppage, you know, butterfly effect, who the hell knows what happens. The play keeps going and ultimately Ronik scores the game winner. And it's just that element of that was what was so great about that team and why that team, even though they lost, they didn't get to the cup final. They was in seven. They were out of guys and they were just giving everything they had. Everyone was hurt. Everything. They had no defenseman. Like as I like, when you talk about butterfly, like if they hadn't traded Chris Terry in that year, I want like, I just wonder, because they were ran out of defensement. Sammy captain and had to line up at defense sometimes. And then he gets knocked the fuck out in this game. Yeah. Like so many weird things, but like, oh for 2010 and oh for probably the two years we're going to talk about most on these couple of lists. But what I just like, I don't remember a lot from this game specifically, but we talked about the three series, these two teams played against each other a little yesterday. And like I have in here, like just looking at the way that series played out there probably should be something. Right. It's an insane freaking series. Flyers lose game one, five, three, win game two, four, one, then lose game three and double over time. Game four goes triple over time. Flyers win game five flyers when now they're up three, two game six Toronto wins and double over time. And then in a back to back, that was April 21st on April 22nd, Flyers win game seven, six to one. Like I remember that series and then this following year, this series, both just being so incredibly violent. Like that Dorsey Tucker hit, yeah, that's the, that's the 10 out of 10 hit. 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You didn't, you didn't push to be number one case, you're wondering in case you're wondering who wrote the list coming in at number seven, the 2004 brawl against Marty Havelat senators. Just an absolutely incredible night, 419 penalty minutes. I love my notes here. One there, one Marty Havelat hit in the penalty box that is the note for those that are just listening, not watching, right, right, right, it's a podcast too. Yeah. So he just hit in the penalty box. It started the whole thing a couple of games prior when he slashed Mark Wrecky in the face. Flyers wanted their retribution. Well, they got it. He was like, not to him, but they might as well say on the whole. I'm just going to run in high and let all of my teammates take these beatings for me. Yeah. Just 419 penalty minutes. Imagine coming up one minute shy of it just being absolutely freaking perfect. It just, I guess one of those, I remember watching this. I was at, it was a Friday night. It was at and every Friday night when I was in middle school, we went to, I guess this would have been freshman year in high school. Yeah. Freshman year high school. We went to Hollydell for open skates just where we all hung out and this game is on one of the monitors in the, in the snack stand. I just look up. It's John Leclerc fighting right now, what the fuck is going on? And they like immediately are like, we are going to replay this game and I went home, popped in the VHS, still have it and taped this game as I have to see what went on. And it was absolute freaking madness. All starts with Donald Bashir and Rob Ray and then just really pops off from there. Well, really Ray started a fight with somebody else when Bashir was on the ice because he knew he could get Bashir kicked out by doing that. Bashir jumps in, Bashir then gets jumped. It's a whole thing. Oh, we got rid of him. Problem's over. Now the whole rest of the fliers fought and it was awesome. Yeah. I think this is an interesting game. Number one, because obviously it's just, it's iconic, but it's an interesting game in terms of where certain individuals would rank it because like, it's not like this game is memorable for hockey. There's nothing particularly memorable about this game from a hockey standpoint they want. I will say, my point here is basically that like, big look, if you are someone who doesn't find fighting terribly interesting, this game is a circus side show. If you're someone who finds that to be one of the most entertaining parts of hockey, you could argue this should be like number three. If there weren't a bunch of really good playoff games coming up, I probably would rank it higher. But I just think like this is what hockey is, no matter how much you want to change it and how much it evolves, it is a sport played. There are no, there are a few stoppages, like it is played on raw emotion. Like you can get physical and angry in football. And then you have two fucking minutes to go calm down and they rotate play like in hockey, you get mad and then you're still staying the next to the guy you're mad at and there ain't no whistle. Like, and this is just kind of one of those like, I just remember, I think it was John Clark. I want to say it was John Clark who was like reporting from the sidelines at that point. And just like, yeah, it's a real just weird feel down here. Guys just shaking hands high five in the locker room, like comment like, it just feels old school down here. Like it's just so different. It's such a throwback. And yeah, this was a ball. This was a bully's game. It was a bully's game. It was, I mean, it feels as if they were told you had to go do this, like you have to go get your retribution. I don't think so, though. I think what what felt what made it cool for me as a fan was that it did feel spontaneous. It did not feel like this, like, because I've said this on multiple occasions. I enjoy fighting, but I enjoy the fights that feel like they're organic. Like I roll my eyes. My eyes literally roll into the back of my head every time I see the like, start of game. We decide and warmups, we're going to fight shit like, okay, now you're literally just a side show. It's not hockey. This is not meant to do anything other than like, well, we're the only reason why both of us are on the roster is because we fight. So let's fight so we can keep our jobs. Like that makes me roll my eyes like crazy, because I don't particularly care for the fights in and of themselves. But what I like is when a fight happens organically due to what happened in the game. And that to me was this. And I think there was also an element too, and some of the guys have actually talked about this in the years after this that like, no one wanted to be the players who were still on the bench, like it was like, you can't be that guy. You got to get in your scraps. I just remember like the puck dropping at one point in the third period and all hell doesn't break loose, and the fans just start booing. Like they have to finish the game like there is a game that does have to finish this game at some point. And they like Sean Burke finished the game and net because, because Esh fought like it was right. Yeah. It was absolute. Thank God. It wasn't. It was beer on fault. Emory once. Yeah, that sounds right. I mean, Emory was a tough, tough motherfucker. Yeah. His job like he was an enforcer who was like, I'll stop the pucks in between fights. Yeah. Like he was insane. Yeah. But yeah, I just, I just love this game so much and I will say while, yeah, it wasn't like, this isn't the penguins or anything. I will always hate the senators for this game. The two years prior where they lose in the playoffs and it's a fucking embarrassment both times to the senators, like that's a part of this story too. Yeah. There's a reason why the senators are your most hated team. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it all stems from they lost in five and I think only scored three goals the one year. Like it was, it was an absolute freaking and bad like Roman check monitors left the ice in the middle, one of those games, like it was bad and the senators were kind of their foil for a while and they got them back. They finally got them back. They finally got the bag. And this ones to be sure. All right. And now we go from, you know, 2004 just straight up brawl to number six on this list, Stanley Cup final game three, 2010, Claude Giroux wins it in overtime. They're down two. Oh, in the series. They're coming home. Not the biggest deal in the world to be down two. Oh, we did just, you know, a month earlier, see them come back from three. Oh, but not ideal. And now you're back home. People are jazzed up first, Stanley Cup final game in Philly since 1997. You want to send the people home happy and they did. They did. Yeah. I mean, this game obviously would be even higher had they won the cup. Then it's like number two, because this is the winning. Yeah, this is the turning point game where, you know, they lose their down three Oh series is probably over. I know they came back against Boston. We'll talk about that a little bit later. But let's be clear that those Black Hawk teams were much better than that Boston team. I mean, that Black Hawk team was absolutely loaded. They won three cups. If they lose game three, it's over over. And they were right with them really in the first two games that series they were right with them. So you felt like they weren't out of it. It's just they had to get a friggin with they had to get a stop. They had you know, six, five in game one, like, yeah, it just I love. I love again, like going back to early Claude Giroux here three point night, primary assist on the game, tying goal, scores the winner. This guy had legend written all over him and they just couldn't put a team around him. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, I remember getting to so many arguments with people on Twitter throughout the back half of the 2010s when people would make the case that Claude Giroux isn't clutch. And it's like, you do realize there are a few things more clutch than scoring an overtime winner in the comp final. You can't, you can't with a straight face claim a guy isn't clutch. When he scored in the most clutch situation that can exist in hockey. That's it was insanity. Like that's it. I guess a series clinching goal, which unfortunately, unfortunately a little later, yeah. But like that's, I really like, I was, I was one of the people who criticized Giroux for his later career playoff failings, but like, there ain't no way you can criticize the first part. And like, yeah, all that's part of it. Yeah. It's not as if that gets erased. Like you still did those things. Yeah. This was, this for me is higher than, than sex. Really? My favorite games of, of my time as a Flyers fan. And I think, I mean, part of it obviously was that, you know, it's the cup final number one. They finally get a cup final win. It was the first one was, I mean, truly, this is actually true. It was the first cup final win of my lifetime because they obviously got swept. They got swept in 97. So they didn't win a game in that cup final. I didn't even think of that. So first cup final win of my lifetime. Claude Giroux was by then my favorite player on the team. And I mean, I'm not going to go to details, but like I was going through some personal shit at the time that was really tough and it was just like something good happened. And it just, it's one of those games that just means a lot to me. I was watching with my college friends. I was in college in my, in my apartment at the time, we, it was probably about like 10 of us watching. And you know, you're just, you're so tense because if they lose that game, it's over. I mean, not over over, but come on. Come on. There's no way they're winning. And suddenly, they're going to do it twice. They win the game and you're like, and they could do this. And then obviously they win game four and then suddenly they're like, man, they were really could do this. And of course they didn't. And that's why this is, you know, the last game from this series on the list, but I want to know. So you would, you would personally put this one higher than six. Yeah, I think so. Would you put it over this next one that I have at five 2012 game six against the Pittsburgh penguins, the Jerusalem big hit against Crosby, the goal wins the series. We could have probably put like three games from the series on this list, honestly, but I wanted to go with the clincher because it puts the series away. It was an iconic moment to be sure. Yes. And obviously they win the series. Yeah. I have this ahead of the Stanley Cup final goal simply because they win the series. Fair. Fair. Like, yeah, if they win, if they win the Stanley Cup in 2010, game three might be number two on the list, but the fact that they win this series, it's Crosby who had been this foil for the flyers for so long, like 2008, 2009 beats them. He's the next one and then Drew is up to the task, at least on this one day, he was while Peter Lavelet was being hyperbolic when he called Claude, Drew, the best player in the world. In this series on this day, he was better than he was, he was the better player in that series. Hey, he was like, Sydney Crosby's obviously the better player. Yes. Deniably. So in this series, Claude Drew was better. And in that final game, he absolutely was better. And the fact that he, he announces his presence in that game by knocking Crosby, it could have been anybody, but it was freaking Crosby knocks him on his ass. And then, you know, seconds later, he scores the opening goal. It was, it was the defining Claude Drew moment of his time. It kind of sucks that like this was the peak and not the first round. Not that he didn't have other great moments. Like, I think back to the hat tricky scored in the final game of the 2018 regular season to clinch the playoff berth, like he had other great moments. We talked about one a few minutes ago in that, in that stadium series game, but this was the pinnacle. Like this was the moment where not only was it his best moment, it was also the moment where you're like, anything's possible with this guy. You know, in retrospect, yes, the Lavelet comment is stupid and hyperbole and probably negatively impacted the way some fans viewed him. But the reason why it did was because at that moment, it seemed possible that Drew could potentially be that tier one superstar in the vein of a Crosby of an Ovechkin. I mean, I remember, I think it was a TSN that at the end of that season did their like rankings of the best players and Drew was at the very least top 10, if not top five. He was right there. He at the end of that regular season, he ranked near the top of the scoring charts. He then outdoors Crosby and the playoffs. Yeah, they lose in the second round. But at that moment, for that, like, couple month period, Claude Drew was universally accepted in the hockey world as one of the five or six best players, I would say in hockey. Obviously, it turned out that he wasn't quite that good, but there's a reason why at the time it didn't seem insane to posit that that might be the direction that Drew's career was going because to that point, he had just kept trending upwards. Yeah. We didn't know where it was going to stop. It turned out that's where it stopped. That was his best, but at the time, we didn't know that. Would you say he was better here than in 2018? Good question. I personally would say yes, because number one, the league was lower scoring this year. So point totals were deflated all around. So scoring 90 in this season with three, yeah, was probably more more impressive than scoring a hundred in in 2018. Number two, at this point, Drew was still a center. He wasn't a wing and he didn't have the benefit of playing extra with Selky guys, Sean Gaterre, like he did in 2018. That's, Coots wasn't Coots yet. He's a rookie. Yeah. Jake wasn't Jake yet. Yeah. Like, it's him, Hartnell and Yager on the top line, like it's not Jake yet. This is probably it and it is, it's a shame it went the way it went after this, just with the team as a whole, because yeah, it is, it was a moment where we'd had some great team since then. Yeah. We hadn't had one of those guys since Lindjoss. Yeah. Yeah. We had Foresburg, but it wasn't, wasn't consummate. He wasn't prime Foresburg anymore. Yeah. Foresburg. Like the Richard's Carter teams before that, it was like, we are just the deepest team. Like we have Richard's Carter, Breair down the middle. Yeah. Good luck. Yeah. And then look at our blue line. This was the Claude Jerusalem. Yeah. And then he beat Crosby. You go, okay, we have one of these guys. Yeah. We didn't. But on that day, we did. On that day, we did. If you put game three of the cup final ahead of this, so personally, I would, and my reason is this, this game had the more iconic moment, but it was a blowout. That game was a better game, a better start to finish game. We're like, I would let me put it this way. I would have not much interest in rewatching this entire game. I would rewatch the first period, whereas I would happily rewatch the entirety of game three because that was just a great hockey game. So that would be why I would put that ahead. Okay. I feel you. I can see that being a point of contention. I'm just going to go with, they won the game. They won the series. And I felt real good. That's fair. Let's hit number four. Number four, a game we talked about yesterday, the five over time game. And I am in a, I am in an argument with Gargano right now over this versus what's going to come up next in terms of where you would rank them. And we had this conversation yesterday because this is like the five over time game, to me, it's like a bigger deal, hockey wide than it is to a flyers fan. I think that's fair. It's a really big deal for flyers fans, but I feel like for flyers fans, it's more, I mean, yes, there was the uniqueness of it, but I feel like it's more a point of pride. It's like that was our team. We won the crazy five over time game. Like it was more of a, we survived it rather than like, like, does anyone really sit down and rewatch? What was it? That's what nine period. So what? It's periods. It's periods of hockey. No, that's what I'm just saying. I was yelling at Gargano about this before you got here, maybe as well, you're here, Charlie. I was like, yes, it's incredible. And it was a war of attrition. It's five over time games. The stories of guys being hurt and sitting on the bench and being like, maybe I can give you a shift, but like my legs broke in and like having to order pizzas and they're not being any food because it's three in the morning, like, yeah, that's all crazy. Are you going to sit down and watch this game and tell me like, over time number three was a great fucking great hockey, like, you get to like, it's awesome. It's a bunch of like, also, this is 2000 when everyone is also 240 pounds still, this is trappy or like, yeah, you're going to tell me this was like the height of our right here. I haven't watched it in a long time and maybe I'm going to go home tonight because I'm going to be on Gargano tomorrow and we're going to have this argument. Maybe I'm going to go home tonight, watch a hundred and ninety two minutes of hockey just to see. But if I had to guess, I would say the fourth overtime period, not all that, you know, I would say the only way I would ever consider rewashing the entire to the game is if like I was hanging out with them and like, I'm at the age now where this doesn't happen anymore. But like, if I'm hanging out with a bunch of my buddies and we turned into a drinking game, like down somebody's basement, it's like, okay, like, every time, like, every time JJ says this, we drink, every time there's like a shot, like, like, that would be the only way I could see myself wanting to watch this, this and it's entire. I could, I'm thinking, like, I always have those thoughts. Like we should do that. And I'm like, bill, I have kids, yeah, I bet you have kids. No, I was like, wait, did you not tell me something? No, my friends all just being like, Bill, I know your friends have kids. Okay. No, like, I got to be up in the morning. Yeah, right. It works. Wait, we can't go to a farm. Yeah. All right. But maybe we can, yeah, August is a long month, Charlie. Maybe we figure out a way to do this, but we'll see. And then obviously at number three, I think just the one thing before we go, the one thing I do want to note about the, the five over time game. And this is the one part about it that I do think is really cool. Usually in these games, it ends with a garbage goal. I think it's really cool that Primo ended this game with maybe not quite a highlight real goal, but a really, a really cool hockey goal. I think that's cool. Put in at the circle, you know, right at the dot rip a, rip a wrist shot, like that's a nice goal. It was not a, it was not a flute goal. It was a, oh man, he beat him clean with a great friggin shot. That's true. That drew, that drew stand, like a final goal. Like, that's not a beautiful dangle goal that you might associate with Claude, it's a high slot deflection. Deflection. Yeah. And I think it's part of the call that we didn't get to yet. Like I just wanted to play the part of the call yesterday. It was like the much maligned. Yeah. He, they're talking like as they're showing the replay, like we said, this is probably going to be like a dirty goal and ugly goal, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was pretty damn nice. It was really nice. Oh, so yeah, that's, that's definitely worth mentioning. I was trying to vamp there so I could bring up the box score because I think the flyers were like heavily outshot in this game. Um, come on. Hockey reference work. It's possible. Okay. We have in the notes here. If you're not walking or not watching on YouTube, buché stop 57 of 58 shots and another thing that is worth pointing out stopped 70 of 72, the flyers out shot them dramatic. Yeah, I was. I bet that wrong. But it's worth noting because this gets lost in the legend of this game. How big of a game this was like the flyers are the heavy favorites going into this series. Obviously they dealt in this season with the drama of the Lindross situation. So you could argue that they were a bit of a team in turmoil, but the penguins were the seven seed. The flyers were the one seed like fires were the heavy favorites and they lose both games start the series at home and they, they completely squander home at home. My advantage. Yeah, they win game three and overtime like basically saving the series on the road. But if they lose this game and then especially the longer it goes, you know, like I think by the time you reach like the third overtime, there's a feeling of if whoever loses the game has no chance winning the series like it's over and it was already going to be a difficult way back had they lost game four and went down three one like yeah, they would have been going back home for game five. So maybe they turn it, but they did lose both games at home and start the series. So you never know. But three ones are pretty tough hill to climb. If it's three one after losing in five over times, it's over. Yeah. No, that's it's like when you played it doesn't happen anymore. But when you play those 19 inning baseball games, it's like, well, both teams are fucked tomorrow. So you really want to win. Yeah. Yeah. Like we have no bullpen. Yeah. And that's the thing I always remember about this is game three also went to overtime. Yeah. Now Andy Delmore scores at 11.01, so they played half a period, but like extra hockey, yeah, they played a ton of hockey in these couple of days, absolutely freaking insane. And now we get to, you know what, before we do that before we get to the big three, let's take a second to tell you about a sponsor I am pumped to talk to you about. This is, I told Brynn earlier, I was like, honestly, I don't even have copy for this. 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It's not the case on our graphics, but I kind of love how we are referencing Keith prime. It's like Optimus Prime. Keith. I'm sure that was a, I'm sure that was an auto correct issue. I kind of love it. I like cause I put all this in a, it was in Google Docs and I'm sure they just kind of auto correct. It just seems like something we're like, if we, if PA show I was around at this time, we would have like an Optimus Prime Keith Primo shirt that we'd be selling. Let's do it now. Throw back shirts. Why not? Uh, but this, so my argument with Gargano is five over times versus this game. Where do you come in? I have five over times at four and this at three. Okay. Where do you come in on this? I, I definitely would have this over the five over time game personally. Again, my argument yesterday was that the five over time game is a more, more of a national great game than a specifically Philly great game. This was just a great hockey game. Like again, this was just a great frigging game back and forth. No team ever had more than a goal lead. I, I, I will vividly remember the call, the entire call of the Primo game tie and goal. And I'll just remember Gary Thorne given the little update right before the goal of like all the scoring was done in the first two periods and it was like the third period. They go, they entered the third period down down a goal because Ruselyn Fedatank had continued his unreal frickin playoff run where he was just scoring every single goal imaginable. Like this average of best players decides to become God for two months still ticks me off. But anyway, they're down because of frickin Fedatanko and that entire period, it's just like tension. I just remember, you know, my, my hands are gripping my, you know, the couch like, Oh, God, is this it? But they were playing well and they were threatening. They were threatening. And it gets to less than two minutes left and you're thinking, like as I said, is it over? We talked about yesterday about the fact that, you know, not only would it have been over for that season, you didn't know what the deal with hockey was going to be with the looming lockout, the labor, the labor strife that was going on. And then Keith Primo just literally puts the team on his back and goes around the entire net to get to the bouncing puck ties it. And I obviously wasn't there, I was watching it on television, but everyone I talked to that watched that game in person is just like, they don't remember the Fargo Fargo Center ever being that loud. Yeah. Like I vividly remember I watched this game center at the time. Yeah. I watched this game with my mom, like just me and her in the living room, like I'm freaking out. And it was, it's an epic game. And yeah, like five, four and over time, like give me that. Give me that. Just a great, great. Just Primo scored another goal earlier in the game. It was really good too. Like it wasn't just that he was the hero at the end. He was great, that entire game. And then Simone Gagne scores the game winner and over time again, personal thing here. Gagne was my favorite player at the time. So when you when your guy scores the winner, it just makes it even better. Thinking about like Rusty Fedotenko in this series, is he like the original former flyer? Like you see the first one is he the one that scarred us? He liked the one that started me, maybe from the 90s or anything that happened. Like I'm trying to like a dude who just came back and really haunted us, just killed the flyers. Yeah. He might be the original former flyer was he was patient zero. He might have been really might have the original person that convinced us that all former flyers come back to ruin our lives. Yeah. All right. So we talked about that a bit yesterday too. Now we get to the final two. And this one, this was announced today on the list for the top 25 comes in at number two for us, 1987 Cup final game six, the night, the spectrum shook. I guess you can compare three and two just in terms of like the reactions to this one. But this is obviously pre us, but we have all heard the tales of game six against Gretzky's spoilers, the all time great NHL dynasty really of a of the eighties. Yeah, they go over their third cup in four years. They had not wanted the year before, but they were very much primed to, you know, turn into a three and four. And this flyer seems good. Don't get me wrong. But my understanding is that pretty much everybody going in was like, yeah, like the oil is going to witness, right? It's the oilers. I guess like this is will after like, I think, I think Clark is on the team in 80. I think maybe that's his last one. Yeah. Well, this is very much post bullies. And it's getting into just like a completely different era, like they are separated from those teams of 10 years prior. And even like earlier in the decade that had gone to some Stanley Cup finals and it's one of those games that I always say, like I have seen this game on Comcast sports net classics several times, like what were you doing after school? Because that's what I was doing. Yeah. And this is just one that even if you weren't around for it, you know, the legend of this game and just simply how loud the spectrum was. Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is a game I obviously can't speak to. I didn't live through it, but you hear the tales and even, even as people who didn't experience it live, you can't deny the, the legend that has grown around this game. No, absolutely not. And that leaves us with the final game of the list. My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man. 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Two 2010, game seven, second round against the Boston Bruins. They've complete the comeback, comeback from 3.0 in the series. Simone Gagne, undefeated in that series. That's true. It comes back and they win the next four. Yeah, he scores the winner, another incredibly clutch moment for Simone Gagne. And if, I guess if we were alive for 87, do you think that trumps this or is completing a game seven comeback in which you come back from 3.0, cancel out a Stanley Cup final game? No, I think this is number one. It's the Cup final and it's Gretzky, but this is a thing that can't be like, if you play that game a hundred more times, that doesn't happen. No, I think this is, this is number one unless until the Flyers win a cup because it's just the improbability of you go down 3.0 in the series, you come back, you go down 3.0 in the game, you come back. And just the sheer amount of moments in this game, like they're just like, it's iconic. You have the labby timeout. You have the JVR goal, like the guy that everybody hates now truly the much and that's a key goal. Like it gets partially blocked and it somehow slips through. If they, I mean, I've heard multiple players in that team say that if he doesn't score that goal, they don't know if the comeback happens because instead they go into the first intermission. They're not down 3.0. They're down 3.1. Suddenly it's like, now we could do this. We keep back. We came back from 3.0 in the series. And now we're only down two goals, like they've got 40 minutes. We got time, Breair scores an awesome wrap around goal. That was an amazing moment, classic Danny Breair fist pump celebration. Then you've got, I mean, this is a low key thing. Obviously the Gandhi goal is great, but the too many men on the ice penalty to give them the power play they have, they had like a couple, too many men in the playoffs this year. And like just listening to people from Boston, like, why is this our fucking problem? Why is too many men constantly crushing this organization? And then the one of my favorite moments of that game, the, and I went back this morning to count the seconds, the 21 seconds of Claude Drew killing time with two minutes left against three Bruins. And this is like, you know, Claude Drew was never a big guy. But this was early career, career, Claude Drew, when he really wasn't a big guy in 30 past. Yeah, he was, he was really tiny, it was too big and he's just out working these Bruins, like along the boards for 21 seconds. And at that point, every second matter, we're talking about less than two minutes in the game. And they're up by one goal. They're trying to kill it off. They're on the road and no one get the puck off this guy. It was unreal. I just, I think that was the moment because that obviously comes before Drew scores the game winner in the Cup final. That's the moment where I think fliers fans are like, yo, we got something special this kid. And that's always, I will always credit one of our diehards and I got to thank very much our diehards for joining us today. We couldn't do what we do here at all city at PHLY without the diehards. Very true. Thank you very much for joining us today. But one of our diehards, I'll never forget people have heard me tell this story millions of times. Uh, I was in Milwaukee for this game, uh, they're down probably. We probably watched at my college house game two or three with all my buddies over. And just like, yo, fillies. They're wearing the blue jerseys this weekend in Milwaukee. It's eighties weekend. Let's go. So you got how much you could have flaked in Milwaukee Bay. It's like my one buddy Mike goes just to throw this out there Friday of game one will be game seven. I just remember turning to him going, buddy, there's no way. I don't think that's going to be a problem fast forward a week. And there we are walking into Miller park in flyers gear and going into their TGI Fridays and demand that they put on a hockey game. And when they fall down three, oh, I turned to Frankie as I always did when one team sees an ends and I say, well, go Phil's he goes, no, no, no, no, no, they're now three Oh in the series too, we're staying until the end and he refused to cheers me. He refused would not toast to the Phillies until this fliers game was over and they came back and you have a, you have a habit of, of giving up prematurely. I guess that's the theme of this top. I guess that would be the case. Yeah. But I always credit Frankie with saying he kept the belief and I'm a Philadelphia sports fan. I'm not negative. I'm realistic. Like I'll tell you what I did keep the, keep the faith in was the Stanley Cup final of this year when I was like, well now, they didn't come all the way back against Boston just a fucking lose. Like this is a movie. Clearly this is a movie and they win in the end. No, it was like cool runnings where it was like a moral victory. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Except, I mean, I don't think there was a Michael late in cool runnings, but the Michael laden was the boss. Yeah. It was the guy. There was the boss. That's absolutely all right. We have some honorable mentions here I wanted to get to just games that didn't make the list and want to run through real quick. The unbeaten streak getting the 35 and 1980 listen, I sure, you know, it's cool. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. They went 25, oh, and 10. Like that's absolutely ridiculous. They started the season one and one and then didn't lose for 35 consecutive games. But like I can't tell you anything about this game. I have no idea. Maybe it was good. Maybe it wasn't. Can you imagine checking the newspapers every morning and looking at this and seeing like all these sees with normal records and then the flyers at 26, one and 10 or 26, one and 11, like the most wild record ever ridiculous, 1997 Eastern Conference final game three, Lindross hat trick up against the Gretzky and Messier Rangers. I just, I remember I had the audio of this hat trick on Napster. That's cool. That's cool. I would fucking like listen to this and like the three Lindross goals. And I think like Messier is trying to hook him down on the, on the empty netter and he just buries it anyway. Like it's an Eric Lindross hat trick and the playoffs. I had to get it in there in some way or another isn't. They win the series to go to the Stanley Cup for the first time in 10 years. Eastern Conference final game five, 2010 Mike Richard shift. Yeah. Get to get to the cup final. They crushed Montreal. Yeah. But like I don't remember. I remember the shift. That's honestly, that's, I think that game is mildly similar to the like it's comparable to the to the Drew shift. Yeah, because just because like again, maybe not the greatest game, but a truly iconic moment. Yeah. And the 2000 Eastern Conference final game three, Bush is safe, just like I had that poster. Not another game on note would be the game seven of the capital series in a way very much. I have was like the overtime game winner. I was like, how do I have nothing from 2008 on here? If that was maybe not a round one series, but it's a game seven over time, like maybe that could make the list over like the brawl or something. If you want to just go with hockey, you know, one game that I would, I would, I would, I would say that deserves at least a thought. And I know it was, it was a weird circumstance, but game six of the Islander series in 2020, the Oscar limblom returns game. And then they went, you know, and I think it was double overtime. Yeah. Yeah. Was it Prove? I thought Prove scored the, the OT Meyer scored in game two. Okay. That's what it was. And the label was pro over all through scores, the game winner and the limblom game. That mean, yeah, it was weird because there were no fans and they obviously lose the series in seven, but add in the return of Lindblom and the way they win that game. They, they honestly got outplayed in that game, but they just kept pushing. They kept pushing and they, they get the win. That one, I at least believe deserves to be an honorable match up. That definitely probably should, uh, that one, if we did know it was such a negative, yeah. Like one, it's COVID. So that sucks. It was weird. Yeah. And to just like that era and like everything after basically the, the outdoor game, it's like fuck those teams. I mean, it's still a, it's the last part of Game of Fire. It's a one, it is, um, but I just, I remember there's, there are a few columns. I am prouder of writing than my column after that game. And it was a long one, but it was, it was a game that warranted that kind of treatment. I'm really proud of that article that I wrote at the athletic on that game. But yeah. It's the last playoff game they won. It is. Yeah. That's, there's, it doesn't seem like that long ago, but there is so much blank space on top of lost in second round on hockey reference. Yeah. It's 2020. Goddamn it. Yeah. We didn't know how good we had it. Uh, when they were just making the playoffs every single year, extreme to, to, to take something from our friends at fly perbole, extreme, stained voice, it's been a while. It's been a while. All right. Uh, that's it on the list and we have three super chats to get to. So thank you for our super chatters. Let's hit those first one from JH. What's the best Jersey and fliers history and why is it the 2019 stadium series? Okay. Definitely not the 20 minute series or I will not say it's the best one in team history. I have it really high on the list. You, you like it. I love that. I did not like it. That's it. We have somebody who whenever I put out a, um, and we've talked about it before, um, who wants to do like Halloween jerseys and like all's, cause I'm all for like, I want every, I wish every team had a hundred jerseys, like basketball, like I think that's great sales many jerseys. Ken and HL, what are you doing? Uh, like that's, I call it the jack-o-lantern jersey and I fucking love that jersey. Fair. Um, I would say, so deficit, I definitely would not put that as, as the best. I like, let's, I think he's mostly trolling JH here, but my, look, my favorite personally, favorite fliers jersey ever is the, uh, the nineties, uh, white. I think that is the best. They're so clean. I think that's the best one with the, uh, with the piping, the old school one, but I will say that, um, a close second for me in terms of, I would say, my favorite of the non regular jerseys was the winter classic jerseys with the Keystone, uh, the orange one with the tie up. That to me is the best specialized, like one time only type jersey they've ever had. I think, I think that is a fantastic jersey. Those are great. I have a winning Simmons. One of those. I think I have a blank one too, um, which, uh, which winter closet was that 2012? That was 12 at the citizen. Yeah, 2012. Love those jerseys. They're very fantastic. Yeah. I also like the, um, I just love those 2010 era jerseys, the orange ones that they had and then the white ones that they wore for the winter classic in Boston. I think those are super clean too. They're hard to pick a favorite, but I think I'm with you just like those nineties white are so clean. Yeah. They're, they're my favorite. Um, all right. Next super chat from David Schuh, was there ever a specific year, uh, team slash era you felt the fliers should have kept a team, key players together and made unnecessary changes that cost us. Well, I think we know what your answer is because you've said it multiple times. You want to run it back one more time. You want to see one more year with Carter and Richard. If those guys keep fucking up, you can still trade them. Yeah. It's true. Keep Bob and don't sign Brits. All of that together. I think butterfly effects into prom are not getting hurt and they win the Stanley Cup. Yeah. Where they all just hate each other and the team gets blown up and you know, get value for them. Anyway, I think, I think my answer here, honestly, and it's, it's taking it a little bit in a different direction. And again, like, I want to make it clear that this is very much hindsight, I used to be sure I would have been, I would have, I would love to see an alternate history where in the summer of 2021, after that, the pandemic shortened season, if, if Fletcher instead of choosing Vigno over his players, chooses his players over Vigno and fires a big and keeps that bunched together and gets a new coach who can get more out of them and maybe just maybe if that happens, you know, you don't trade ghost, you don't give away ghost. You don't get rid of or check. You don't, you don't bring in Risto because like the coach fucking needed another right handed shooting defenseman who hits and that crap and you keep that group together. I just, I, maybe it ends badly anyway, but keeping Vigno in retrospect was so the wrong decision because they had decided they hated him and it was just over. Maybe you bring us, I still think that team had a lot of talent and maybe if you're bringing a new coach, you know, maybe Kateria doesn't get hurt because butterfly effects, then maybe you don't have to trade Drew, then maybe you don't have to do like, maybe Travis Connecty doesn't take him another year to get back to pre pandemic Travis Connecty because he's playing under a coach that fosters his talent rather than has him play like shit for two years before he gets it back going. I just, I'd love to see the alternate history of that era. If it doesn't fall apart, if you make the decision that AVs run his course, we need to can. Even if you make the moves, don't make such bad moves. Yeah. If you have to trade ghost, get literally anything in return. I mean, a return. I mean, at that same summer, one Sam Reiner was traded for a similar package by the same team that traded the fliers wrist though. Maybe trade for him. Yeah, like if you have to trade that first round pick, does it have to be for Rasmus first line? Maybe trade for maybe it's for the guy who just scored 57 fucking goals. That would have been cool. I don't know. Just that I did here. Don't make every move the worst possible. Like when Cam Atkinson, who they just had to buy out because he didn't score a point for three months is the best move in retrospect. Yikes. You fucked up. Was that a great. All right. And this last super chat from Corey, I'm a pretty new fliers fan. I watched the compilation of the 2010 run recently and it's wild to hear how many times JJ says for a pack of Ferricase a taste again. They brought that back for a few years. That was an iconic part of fliers history. I miss that. Then it then it dropped off for a while and there was a couple years where they tried to bring it back. But obviously, you know, it's something that they can't just bring back unilaterally because they need tasty cake to be part of the promotion. I mean, they can say it, I guess, but tasty cake could be like, Oh, thanks for the free advertising. We're not paying you to say exactly. Yeah, that's. But yeah, that was in Corey as a new fantasy explain. That was an iconic part of fliers history. That was something Gene Hart would say for years. So that was less a new thing and more something that they were bringing back because they know how much the fans dug it and I guess they were able to come to some sort of agree with Tasey on a on a marketing spend for the that little stretch or if you haven't seen them and you feel like going back down that 2010 rabbit hole, the history will be made commercials. I still fucking cry when I watch them probably the best marketing campaign the NHL has ever done in my lifetime. I can't name a so close second, like their Stanley Cup commercials are always good. Yeah, they're usually good. And those ones are fucking fantastic. There's a hundred out of ten unreal and the fact that they were doing it and the fliers went on this crazy unexpected what if Richie made even better what if Richie didn't play like clarky. Oh, God damn it. So good. All right. And that is all the time we have for you. I fly here today. Thank you. Thank you all for listening. Thank you for hanging out. If you haven't already, you got to hit that subscribe button follows right here on YouTube. I set those notifications so you never miss a live show. We'll be back tomorrow at one o'clock for F around Friday. Pretty sure Kelly's going to be with this. So that'll be a good time. Yeah. Follow us on Twitter at PHLY underscore flyers and follow the podcast PHLY flyers wherever you get those. That's it. My name is Bill match. That's Charlie O'Connor until tomorrow. Stay loose and sexy, Philly. 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