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Get started with Greenlight today and get your first month free at greenlight.com/spotify. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hey, everybody, how you doing? Well, that's good. Welcome to PHLY Flyers Presented by Morgan CS. Check out Morgan CS.com/PHLY to start your home buying process today, company, NMLSID, number 146476. My name is Bill Matts. I'm your director of fun and games for the afternoon, joining me on this beautiful Thursday in July, it is. Charlie O'Connor, what's going on today, Chuck? - It's actually not quite as miserably hot today. - Yes. - It's still hot, but it's not as unbearable as has been the last five or six days. So I'm going to just be thankful for that. - No, it was like, when I woke up to, I always check my, I have this little weather thing in my house. Like the last couple of days is like 930 in the morning. It's like, 87 feels like 100. Today it was like 80 feels like 82. It was like, oh, a normal day. - A normal summer day. - A normal summer day, yeah. - Also my air condition, I thought was broken yesterday. $120 part, or a $13 part, that's awesome. - Amazing, that's awesome. - I was gonna have to buy a whole new, and it was like a million degrees yesterday. - Oh yeah, worst side. - Worst side. - Worst side for everybody. - Like my dog's 14, like he can't have heat. This is too much. - He's barely living normal. - Yes, like, I'm feeding him medicine, pumping him up to keep him alive. Like, he can't be 100 in the house, but all is well. - Thanks. - I'm so excited. And I'm excited for today's show, 'cause we're talking goalies. That's right. We're talking goalies today, because I'll tell ya. We, a lot of times, brush it like, oh yeah, well, you know, the outsized impact goalies have on games. And with this whole rebuild talk and everything like the flyers need, but oh, they need top line center. They need first pair of defensemen. We never talk about what they have in net. And I think it's, it needs to be discussed. Now we think they have it's, they have such a number of goalie, whether they're here on their way in the pipeline. We're like, oh yeah, they'll probably have a solution. I think you think there's someone in a pipeline who will be a solution, but we don't know who. - Yeah, like it might be Igor Zabregid, who might not come over to like 25, you know? But we'll get to that. But a few things I want to talk about first today, Charlie. - Okay. - First we, I got a DM from listener Captain Joseph after yesterday's show. I wanted to, I wanted to touch on this for a second. This is high bill, just a question I thought might continue from yesterday's show. Do you think, do you look at any of the moves that other teams pulled off this off season and think Danny could or should have really been involved in order to improve the flyers? Cheers from England. And thank you to our overseas listener over there in England, but that's something, you know, we talk like I wanted the flyers to do something. But it's not as if Trevor Zegris is playing for someone else. It's not as if Shane Pinto was playing some, like these guys that we've kind of had circled, whole prophetic, is not on another team right now. Like these natures are still where he is. - Natures still hasn't been moved. - Yeah. - Is there anything you look at that you're like, that's the one. - So there's a cup, 'cause I have one. - There's a couple conceptual ones. I think, and I put this in my article, my breakdown earlier this week, check that out on allphly.com. It's not even behind the paywall. It's for free. - Free. - It's just a straight up op-ed. But the point I made was that going into the off-season, and this isn't like, not Reese C. Baez, this isn't me just like taking advantage of what happened. We talked about this in the beginning of the off-season. There were two teams that looked poised to do stupid things. They were Ottawa and Buffalo, because they were two teams that did not meet their expectations, that were in the rumor mill as like, we want to shake things up. It was straight up billy bean and moneyball. We're going to shake things up because this ain't working. And those are the opportunities where you're thinking like, we might be able to swoop in and win a trade here. Both of those teams made trades that I would consider to be stupid trades. Ottawa traded Jacob Chickens for basically nothing. I mean, not baby. A third round pick in Nick Jensen. So really not that much. And then Buffalo traded the ninth overall pick in 2022, Matthew Savoy for a third line center. Now, Chickens, I didn't want him on the Flyers anyway. I don't think he was a fit. My point with Ottawa is that Ottawa was poised to do something stupid. They were there. They were at the edge of stupidity. You just had to be the team that pushed them over the edge. The Flyers were not. I'm not saying they should have went for Chickens, but maybe there was another player on their team that they could, they could have been the team to take advantage of Ottawa's stupidity. Instead, it was Washington. And with Ottawa, it seems as if the Omar deal with Boston taking the Corpby bag. Yes. The Flyers may have been Plan B. Yeah. Like we'll take on that Corpusallo salary, figure something. There we move up. It looks like the framework. That was the deal where it was like, and then, but they were able to pull off the trade for Omar and move Corpusallo when it was like, well, that deals. And again, like, you know, there are other factors. It's not just that Danny messed up. It's just that that was-- That was an opportunity. That was an winning goaltender and a team that had no goal. That was an opportunity, and Ottawa made their dumb trade with someone else. The Buffalo one, though, is the interesting one. That's the one. Because they traded the ninth overall pick, Matthew Savoy, in 2022 for a third line center. The Flyers have a third line center. They have. Look, I don't know if it was as simple as just say, well, Matthew Savoy for Scott Lawton. But that's the trade you look at, and you're like, man, I wonder if they would have been able to do that deal. Like you look at Ryan McLeod, like, last two years, 11 goals, 23 points, 12 goals, 30 points. Yeah, that's Scott Lawton. Scott Lawton, like, maybe less productive. Now, a little bit of an age difference. Yeah, he's 30. She's younger, McLeod is faster. McLeod is faster, yeah. And also, you know, McLeod's underlying metrics, especially last year, significantly better than Lawton's last year when they were really in the toilet. So possibly the Flyers may be presented at that. And they were like, now we like McLeod better. But you do look at that deal and you're like, well, shit. And I don't know what Matthew Savoy is going to turn into. I will say that he's exactly the kind of player the Flyers should be taking a shot at, a top 10 pick with high skill, who's a left winger. Like, their weak point in terms of where they're, you know, if they have a weak point on the wing, it's the left side, not the right side. That would have been a guy where you're like, and just like, kind of wish Danny could have found a way to be that team that took advantage of that desperation. And like, just intangible wise, yeah, we all love, you know, the grittiness Lawton plays with the leadership. He supposedly brings to the table. And I don't mean supposedly, I just mean, I can't speak to it personally 'cause I don't play for the Flyers. But like, this is a thing that he's credited with. But one thing he's never done is been on a playoff run while McLeod was just in the conference. Fine, or in the Stanley Cup Finals. - Sure. - So like, I guess if you're looking for where we want some of that, you know, they brought in that experience. Like the winning, a Bowen Byron experience. - And it's like, yeah, we love him, the player, and we also love that he has won a Stanley Cup. - He knows what it takes. - He knows what exactly. I know we can put the air quotes around that, but GM's think about that shit. Like, that is a real thing. But the Savoy thing, it's like, man, what if it was like Lawton and the Anaheim pick could have got that done? And I don't know. Maybe it doesn't. - Maybe. - But, but. - So I think your ear was just on "Flyers Daily" with Jason Martinez. - Jason Martinez, yeah. - And one of the things he talks about, like going into next year's draft. Like, they're excited for the six picks in the first two rounds. He's like, one thing I saw up close and personal this year was how coveted the early second round picks are. Because after day one, everyone goes back, reconvenes. - Yeah, there's like-- - And then-- - There's four guys who everyone is sitting in a three room. How the hell is he still there? - Everyone looks at their board, and it might be different guys, but they're like, this guy we gave a first round grade to, and he's still there. How do we get him? - Yeah. - And then every, and like you look at it. Well, "Flyers" not gonna be great. Columbus, probably not that good. Anaheim, probably not that good. - Yeah, they're gonna be high up. - There's gonna be those-- - The "Flyer the Flyers" is the only one where you're like-- - Maybe that's in the middle of the round. - But it's still like, I bet you it's in the '30s. - Where was I? - Like, maybe you know. But like you look at them and go, these picks, they're basically late first round picks, especially if we look at the draft in terms of, they think this is a much deeper draft. Like, maybe that gets it, and maybe not. But that's, I was hoping you'd say Savoy, 'cause that's the one I look at. And the, Ottawa is conceptual. Like maybe there was something else there, but we look at what happened and what they did, and say, "Ah, they didn't miss on anything Ottawa did." But Buffalo actually did something that I wanted to take advantage of. And that's the team, I was like, "We need to steal someone from them." - This is horrible. - You're trying to get Owen Power. - Yeah, my play dream was Owen Power, but gets, you know, steal somebody. - Yeah. - It looks like maybe that happened. All right, so that's the mailbag question of the day. Thank you, Captain Joseph. Hit us up @PHLY_FLYERS or just tweet me, whatever. If you ever have a question, I like doing these early. Like from yesterday's show, kind of previously on, and then we posted today's stuff. - Previously on, yeah, I got it. - I've had a couple of notes from Danny on "FLYERS Daily." - No, he did a decent amount of talking with Jason. - It looks like a 20 minute interview. - You should check it out. But one thing I really wanted to talk about. I'll have a bonk. Martít has asked, could he potentially have the nine game look before you send him back to juniors? And this is something we talked about for a second off there. I am, I realize it's a different situation 'cause he's in the organization, you just send him back to Lehigh or whatever, but like, Emile Andre, unless he had a goss to spare like first couple of weeks, was never stanging. But they just wanted to see. This guy does something that none of our other guys do. Let's see. And how far away is he? He did not rule out the possibility of Oliver Bonk getting the nine game look before going back to juniors or whatever. And he said, like listen, it depends on his training camp. It depends on the other guys we have on the roster. - To be sure. - To have a defenseman, if you include Ronnie Atard, they have eight guys to include a ninth. But we also never thought there was a chance. Bobby Brink was making this team. Emile Andre was making this team out of camp last year. - They were pretty unlikely. - Yeah. - Brink especially I thought was highly unlikely. - Totally different. - 'Cause they were gonna be in the organization. They were gonna be a couple miles away in Lehigh. Like this is okay. And then we're sending them back to juniors. It's a different world. - To be sure. - Dave Schoon, hey man, you knocked down the door. We'll give you the shot. - I think this is a good thing for Breair to say. - Motivate him. - Motivate him. Because you want Oliver Bonk to come into this camp 'cause Oliver Bonk, we interviewed him at development camp. And he straight up said, I think I'm going back. And maybe Danny heard that. And maybe Danny wanted to send him the message. - Oh. - Like hey kid, you know, maybe you do have a chance. Maybe you should go into this summer thinking if I really work my tail off, I could get an NHL games. Maybe he just wanted to give him that little boost going into the two months of heavy workouts. 'Cause this is when the guys really have their summer in the sense of they are trying to make gains. The early part of the summer is like hang out with the boys. This is the part of the summer where it's okay, I need to get to work. I need to be ready so that I don't die when John Tortorella runs me in a ground on day one. Maybe Danny was giving him a little carrot. - Little kick in the air. - Just to say, hey Oliver, don't think it's completely overall a possibility you get some gains at the start of the year. - And I don't mind that. - To your point that you talked to him that you guys got to talk to him at a development camp. This interview was recorded. It sounded like the Saturday prior to the scrimmage. - Right, that morning, right after the morning. - 'Cause they said like game tonight. So probably that morning at the facility. Maybe he did hear that. It was like, yeah, yeah. You should be trying to make this team. - It's, yeah, we have a lot of defense and none of them are any good and I realize that's. - I, yeah, that's an overstatement. - It's obviously an overstatement. - It's obviously an overstatement. - I do think though, that's it. - That's shady raise. - That's a big preview for the hat coming up later. - The thing about the shady raise is that you got that lost or stolen or broken protection. So best protection at all I wear. - You got to keep those shady raise safe. But if you don't, they got your back. No, I think it's worth saying that I don't think Oliver Bonk is ready. I really don't and I think the flyers don't either. But why not give him the hope and give him something to shoot for? - Who's the last guy that got the try out? Is it Lawton? - Ooh, the try out. - I can't remember and that's a shortened season. Seems like four or five might have been Lawton. - I'd have to really go back and look 'cause Speeza got it but Lawton was after Speeza. - Speeza made the tee. - Yeah, Speeza got the and then they sent him back. But it might-- - Did they send him back? - I believe they did ultimately send him back. - I thought Speeza made the tee. - He did make the team and then they ultimately sent him back. They burnt the year. Remember he played like 30-something games that year and then they did send him back. - And then they sent him back? - If I remember correctly that's what happened. - I don't remember. - 'Cause they were like, he's not ready yet. Sorry, I know you burnt the year but whatever. I think Lawton would have been the last one. - Definitely a possibility. Yeah, like Lawton and that was 2013. So it was like a four, it wasn't even the nine. It was like four or five 'cause it was pro-rated for the 48-game season. But I was just thinking, I was like, who has even got that in a while? And Lawton was the only guy that came to mind. The other thing I wanted to pull from the Flyers Daily interview was, we talked about why certain guys are here yesterday. And he, Danny, stated he believes the presence of Deloriae Halfway and Sealer was a big part of the young players developing because nobody looked to take advantage of them if they wanted to play that kind of game. Good luck, you're getting beaten up. And he was talking, 'cause they talked about like 100 McDonald eventually getting to maybe play on a roster with Nick Sealer and how like Sealer provides that presence but that's ultimately gonna be McDonald's role. - Interesting. - Yeah, like, shut down the fence. And hopefully you can play in our top four big guy but also you need to be a badass out there. You need to protect everyone and that's something that Donald will, one, have the advantage of playing with those types of guys and also learn to do that for when he becomes that dude on the blue line. I love this stuff. Also, I'm like, this is fine for now but it's one of those, I don't want, you know, like I said, I don't want Tour de Rela coaching this team when they are trying to win 'cause if you think, like in a game where you need a goal, sitting Morgan Frost is the way to get that goal, like we are at odds here. This is fine for now. If these guys are here to protect the kids, but like when the kids aren't kids and we're trying to win, this can't be how we're building the team. - So here's my issue with that. With the whole, nobody took advantage of the young guys with the, you know, they can be more creative because they know. And I do believe there is something to the young players feeling like they can do. - And we've talked about that. - But here's one thing I'll point out. Are there young guys, especially up front, like really doing anything that's gonna get them killed? Like we're not like Mitchkoff Mike. - That's the, I was like, Mitchkoff might do the things that like piss off the vets across the league because he's so flashy and showy. Like I don't know if the guys they're developed, like is Owen Tippett doing anything to piss off the old school vets? - I guess he's a little hard. - Really fast. - Yeah, like he's silly. He's a little hard sometimes. - I think they might be. - But he said force are battling too hard along the boards. Like he's, his game is too honest. - Like what's Bobby Brink doing that's gonna piss off like the Ryan Reeves of the world? - Yeah, I know. - They're not scoring all the goals. They're not doing these crazy celebrations. They're not trying Michigan's every other game. I just, I don't know how much protecting they need because I don't think they're that flashy to begin with. - Like the other part, if Bobby Brink is on the ice wall, Ryan Reeves is on the ice, you know, you should do. - Skate around them. - Skate around them and go score, it's 5 on 4. - Yeah, I understand this to a degree. But I do think that the, that we're overstating just how flashy and show these kids currently on the roster, they're not that flashy. There's a reason why we keep saying they need high-end talent. - They don't have these guys. - We want them to have guys that can do those things like, Joel Farrah, we tried one Michigan the whole year. Like that was it. Like did we really, is it really that big of a deal to protect him for that reason? Now like somebody like Sealer, for example, I think he does provide developmental value, but not in the sense of, oh my God, I'm scared to punch that kid because Nick Sealer's gonna come and beat me up. It's more that, and I think this is absolutely the case, particularly with Cam York. Cam York watches Nick Sealer block all the shots in the world, come back to the bench and all those teammates are patting him on the head and saying, great job and going crazy and banging the sticks against the boards. And Cam York starts thinking at some part in his head, like I want that. So I'm gonna start blocking more shots because that's what you have to do to gain the respect to your teammates. That I think is true. And I think that will help the young defenseman. But I don't really buy the the kids need protection because they're gonna do doing all these spinoramas and deeks like, are they? I don't really remember them doing this that often last year. No, like honestly, it's maybe ahead of schedule. Like, yeah, let's absolutely protect Mitchkoff. Yeah, 100%. If you wanna put Deloria on his line, like, all right. I mean, I don't think it'd be great for his offense, but nobody's gonna mess with him. A fewer, fewer people will mess with him. I get it, but these other guys, but like, and that's, we talked to yesterday, we had the input-output conversation again. Like, Garnet Hathaway also can be on a good team 'cause he's a good player. He's a good bottom seller. Like, there's a reason Boston, like, traded for him from Washington last year when they won all those fucking games. It was like, who do we need? We need a guy like that. You know, like that good, good player. Yeah. Like, Nick Sealer, good player. Like, yes, he can beat you up and also-- Hey, he's top us out. He's out. And those are the things you need-- Good bottom line defense, man. Like, those are the things you need on a winning team, but they also have to contribute to-- Like, they don't all have to score a ton of goals, but they have to play well in some way. Those two guys do, and that's, I think, like, lost in the conversation some time. I would agree. But, like, the protection angle, I just, I will just never get the visual out of my head of Nick Deloriae basically being pulled down the ice by Jacob Truba trying to fight him, and Truba ignoring him, as he fucking lays out Garnet halfway with one of the biggest hits of the year. Yeah. Totally clean head. Yeah. But, like, he didn't seem scared to do it, and Nick Deloriae was literally riding him like a pony anyway. Before we get into the goalie talk now today, we have to take a second talk to you about right aid. Oh, man, right aid. When you play against the Flyers, you probably need to go visit right aid afterwards. But right now, we're going to talk to you about the right aid refreshery. There's a line of beverages that ranges from familiar family favorites to revitalizing better for you options, and it's available exclusively at right aid. 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But with Carter Hart gone, the need for what is a true number one goal 10, and not every cup winner has one, but it sure makes things a whole hell of a lot easier. You're margin for error, a lot bigger when you have that number one goalie. With Carter Hart gone, like, I don't know what his ceiling was, but I think we knew as a known commodity, he's a number one. I think we knew with Hot With Hart that maybe he was never going to be the superstar that at times the earliest career he looked like he might be, but he can be the starting goalie on a team that wins a Stanley Cup. If you put him on Edmonton or Colorado, you definitely don't lower their chances. Exactly. You know? There would be no shock if, like, he was a number one on a team, the one. Now, he wouldn't be a Shastirkin. No, but he could certainly be, you know, like, in all honesty, he could be Bob. Now, Bob had higher highs during that playoff run, but on the whole, like, Bob has some real bad games too. Hart could have done that, but now he's gone. The way things worked out, Carter Hart is no longer a part of the organization. And so the search for who can be that guy is on. We're going to talk about the NHL guys just a little bit, but I want to start with the pipeline. Okay. Because I guess the guy who's closest other than Fedotov and Harrison. It's Alexi Kolosov, that is if he's coming over. Now, it all, it seems like he is. Well, look, I mean, everything I've heard is that the Flyers are kind of looking at this as, we have you under contract, but you kind of got to come over. We've talked to you. Everything you've told us is that you're playing to come over. There apparently was that clip of that picture of him last week wearing Phantom's gear when he's training over in Belarus. So everything seems to hint that he should be coming over. However, it's undeniable that there is some concern. And I think there was a little furry and slip from Brent Flair after the scrimmage last Saturday when he was talking about the goalie situation. I think he was asked about Bjarnison and said, you know, we got two goalies over in Europe. And you know, if Kolosov comes over and then he stops up, he's like, Kolosov coming over, but you could tell that like internally there is a little bit of concern. It's at least been a conversation. Yes. It does absolutely seem like the Flyers, while they think that he's coming. They in behind closed doors are like, is he actually going to cover? Is this the thing? Because look, Elliott Freeman doesn't report things in his column without hearing things. There's enough. He doesn't need to talk about Alexi Kolosov. Yeah, exactly. And he put out there on draft weekend. There's people wondering if Kolosov's actually going to come over. The Flyers are optimistic. They really like them. They're high on them, but people talk. And the reason why this all launched to begin with, apparently from what I've been able to gather is, Kolosov was just telling like friends that he didn't love his time in North America, that he was homesick and whatever. Flyers call winded it. They talk to him. It seems like they believe they had smoothed it over. Then end of June comes around and maybe Kolosov is still telling friends, I don't really love the states. I don't know. I think he's going to be here. I do, but I would be foolish to discount the possibility that he just doesn't get on the plane. Yeah. And like, do you think we're a little extra paranoid because of Fidotov and Gochia? Of course we are. Yeah. Like that's part of this, right? But that's, but how could you not be? Yes, especially, I realize Belarus is not Russia. But yes, it is. I don't think, believe it or this way, I don't think this will be a situation where like anywhere comparable to Fidotov, where Fidotov basically was arrested and told you can't live. If Kolosov doesn't come over, it's because he has decided that he, you know, from a personal standpoint, doesn't want to live in the United States and doesn't want to pursue his NHL dream yet. And if that's the case, like, yeah, I guess the flyers could be like, well, you can't play hockey if you're not playing under contract, but also the KHL could just be like, well, screw you. And the KHL just told the double IHF to go fuck yourself. Exactly. Yeah, so there are ways. I don't know how this is going to play out. I think he's going to come over, but I, as I said, I will be foolish to rule out the possibility that this goes in a different direction because there's enough smoke that you can't rule it out. Also, when he came over last year to the fans, like, fresh off it turned in 22, a lot of these guys don't come over till a little later, 23, 24, 25, like he is really young. Yeah, he's young, Ash, to be sure. So we'll see how it works out, but he's, like, the closest in terms of... And he's good. Yeah, like he's not having the KHL this year as a 21, 22-year-old. I do not know what his ceiling ultimately is. What I can tell you is he's a fun goalie to watch. He is very athletic. He's not the biggest. He's not small, but he's not the biggest. Six-one. Yeah. He's small-ish from an NHL goalie standard, especially now, especially now given the fact they want every goalie to be six foot four, but he's super athletic. He makes highlight real saves. He is going to be a fun goalie to watch if he ends up with the fannoms and you go down there and you watch a fannoms game or two. He's going to be fun. So I'm excited about Colossoff. The upside is obvious when you watch clips of him play. He has in my mind, you know, if all breaks right, he could be a number one goalie. Now, is he going to be? I don't know. It depends on the development and his curve and everything, but the upside is there for him to be a legitimately good NHL goalie, and it's exciting. As a 21, 22 year old playing in the KHL last year, 47 games. 907, that's pretty good for a goalie of that eight. Not bad. It's not bad. We then look at Carson Bjarnison, a second round pick last year, 46 games in the dub, 907. I feel like a lot of people look at last year's draft class and go, you know, it's a fragging in the third round, higher upside than Bjarnison in the second. What, Bjarnison, only goalie on, you know, in the organization actually from Dev Camp last week, what do we know about Bjarnison? Well, I think with Bjarnison, he's a guy where they really like his tools and they think they can mold him into being a really good goaltender. They also think that playing for Brandon, a team that they do not think is very good, they think that has deflated his numbers, that he looks worse by the numbers than he actually is and that if he wasn't a better team, that we would probably be a lot more excited about Carson Bjarnison. I personally, like he's not one of my favorite prospects in the pipeline. When I've watched him, I don't come away that impressed. I am also far from a goalie expert. So there are times when you watch him and you can see the upside, you can see why goalie coaches look at him and they're like, man, I can turn that guy into something special. And then he'll have games or he'll have days like he did on Saturday in the scrimmage where he looks actively bad. And to me, I look at Bjarnison as a guy who's going to take time where they're going to bring him over, like they're going to bring him down to the fannoms and he's going to take a couple of years. And then you're going to see if they can mold him into what the goalie coaches and what the goalie development staff, Brady Robinson, obviously Kim Dilleball, you're going to see what they can turn him into. He to me, he's nowhere near being a finished product. He's way too inconsistent. He doesn't repeat strong performances enough for my liking. But he could get there because the upside's there. I'm just, I don't look at Bjarnison as one of my favorite goalies in this pipeline. - The last guy is Yegor as a bragging third round pick last year, played 26 games between the VHL and MHL, put up a 944 save percentage in those two leagues and he just got moved over to the Scott St. Petersburg organization so he can eventually play in the K because the organization he was in did not have a KHL affiliate. So he's, he moved over there, I guess. It sounds like if there's going to be, you know, the Sorokin type who comes over at some point and is fucking awesome, it could be him. - I think, I mean, the dragon is the guy I'm the most excited about in the pipeline from a goalie's standpoint, but there is an element here of like the mystery box. - Yeah. - Because I mean, he's the youngest. - He's the youngest. - He's the youngest. - He's over there. - He put up really, really good numbers. Like numbers that goalies don't put up in those leagues at his age. If he moves into the KHL and struggles for two, three years, then you're like, okay, well, that's why he slipped to the third round and he's not as good as we hoped. But he's exciting to me. He's exciting to me. I think he, the Flyers may have gotten a steal at this stage. I was similarly excited about Sam Harrison, looking at what he was doing at a young age in the Swedish second-year-old's Venskin, then what he was doing for a really crappy team in the SHL. I want to see how this plays out was a dragon. It's just one year. We're going to see how he does this year, where he ends up, what league he's playing in, what team he's playing in and whatnot. But he's a guy that I can dream on, and that excites me. - And just for shits and gigs, the Flyers still hold the rights to 27-year-old Mattai Tomak, who is playing in Chetchia. Just given the high variance of goal tenders, like, and I know this class was not all that highly thought of, but you look at, the heart's gone. We don't know what's going on with Kolasov. Sandstrom just walked. Peterson Stinks will be gone soon. - A little surprise, they didn't draft a goalie. They made seven picks, five forwards, two D-men. Just throw a dart on a goalie, you're a little surprised. - I mean, not a little, but not majorly. I think John Bailey did an interview with Danny before the draft, a couple of weeks before the draft for Philly hockey now, and Brier basically said, we're not going to spend a prime pick on a goalie this year. We may throw a dart later rounds. But if you're looking at the position and you're saying, well, maybe we'll use a fifth, sixth, seventh round pick on a goalie, you're not locking yourself into definitely doing it. So, is it a mild surprise? Like, yeah, when I did my every pick box before the draft, I hadn't taken a goalie, I think, in the sixth round, or the seventh round. But it's not blowing me away that they didn't. Like, those guys are unlikely to pan out anyway. - It's just, yeah, I'm not like, oh my God, get in, take one. It's just given the high variance of goalies and the holes that might be opening up in the organization. Like, St. Colesov does come over. All right, like, that means we got two prospect goalies and a lot of goalies don't turn out. I feel like you just want a lot in the pipe. - I think that's the way they're looking at is that they already have a goal. - They do have three dudes who aren't at the NHL level, and then Sam Ersen, who turns 25, I think the day after the home opener. So, like, pretty damn young as well. But I'm gonna start with the NHL level now with Ivan Fadotov. He'll be 28 at the end of November, a 28-year-old rookie. He played the three games last year. One start, it was what it was. Letting him burn that final year, bring him over, everything he's been through. It was a really cool story, and that first game was a lot of fun. But just looking at, like, how much of an unknown, like, he's going into camp as the number two. Like, this is happening. He's the NHL goal. - Oh, yeah, no, that is happening. - How much confidence should we have in Fadotov? And like, what do you think is leashes? 'Cause I look at that contract, and I don't know if this is something I thought about before when we initially looked at, you know, two years with, like, what, three, two, eight AAV or something like that? - It's high. It's higher than it should be. - Considerably high. - And again, this is them paying to get him out of Russia. - Paying to get him out of Russia, and he had to buy his way, all that stuff. He wasn't coming over, unless he was gonna make something similar to what he was making over there, all that. But also, I look at the two years, I look at the decently high AAV, and I think, like, yeah, let's say he's no good to start the season. We can't have a goalie situation like we did last year where Erickson just plays every single game. Maybe you could eye-arm and call up Colosov or Peterson or whatever. But, like, if this dude needs reps, he hasn't played on this continent before, you need to send him to the AHL. Do you think part of this contract is it's basically it's own waiver protection? - I'm skeptical. - Who would take a shot on this guy? - I mean, a 28-year-old rookie at this number. - I would agree that it is absolutely waiver protection, but I don't think that is-- - That's not the thinking. - I think they are looking at it as, he's gonna get this year, that he's gonna get this year in the NHL. You know, he's a good KHL goalie already, we know that. And this is, it's more helpful to find out what he is at the NHL level versus the NHL level. Like, we don't need to rehash that. He's 28 years old. If you can't hack it in the NHL level, there's no development. This is just who he is. - This is a valuation. - So, they're trying to figure out who he is. Now, what I have been able to gather is that they're going to reassess the goalie situation after this season. That, you know, if Colosov doesn't come over, which you can't, I believe they think is going to happen, they're gonna reassess all three. They're gonna reassess Ersen, they're gonna reassess Colosov, they're gonna reassess Fidotov. And if, after Fidotov's first season in the NHL, he has a 8.85 save percentage, I don't think they're gonna stop playing him. Like, honestly, I don't. I think they just might look at it as well. We'll have a good team with that goal setting, that high pick, whatever. I think they're gonna keep throwing him out there to see if he can figure it out at the NHL level. But if after a year, it's clear, he's just not a good enough skater. He's not quick enough to stop pucks at the NHL level at a decent rate, they might have a conversation with him and be like, look, like, we're happy to pay you this money, but you might not make the NHL team. Colosov might beat you and then you might be taken buses. If you want to kill the deal and go back over to the KHL and sign with your, sign with the team for more money than whatever, we're open to it. But, like, you didn't perform well enough to keep yourself ahead of Colosov in the organizational depth chart. Now, the flip side of it is, if Fidoetov kills it, if he's the gigantic 6.8 goalie with a 9.20 save percentage, that teams just can't figure out, then they're gonna roll with them. And then maybe he's part of the present and near-term future. But the way I think they're looking at Fidoetov is you get this year. You get this year and show us what you have. And then after this year, we're gonna reassess everybody and we're gonna see where everybody stands. - 'Cause a lot of people, like, just my friends and stuff have asked me how this goalie situation is gonna be handled. And I drew it out like one of those SAT problems. Like, X is to Y. - Bro, okay. - And I was like, Ersen is to Fidoetov as Hart was to Ersen. Like, it's gonna start out, Ersen's the guy. And we're gonna get you in when we can. - Oh, yeah, Fidoetov outplays Ersen. He could jump. - And then that easily. - As Fidoetov earns more confidence, we'll see. And then we're gonna get an Ersen in a second. Like, the way those numbers, like, the way his starts were broken up, it was like, all of a sudden, Ersen was starting 50% of the games. - And even before Hart disappeared. It was like, working its way into a tandem because of how well Ersen was playing. - Ersen earned the start. - And I think that's the Fidoetov situation. It's like, yeah, it's gonna be Ersen to start. And then if Ivan gives us a reason, we will play him more. Before we get to Sam Ersen, we gotta talk about these shady rays. And as you saw a few minutes ago, I just dropped them and not a scratch on them. And I'm a big fan of the shady rays. You gotta get ready for the season ahead with quality shades built to last as you just saw, look, perfectly intact. 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But let's just start with air-syn. Like, we'll turn 25 the day after the home opener. So we have a 25-year-old NetMinder, who at least for the first probably two months of the season, will be the clear cut number one. And we've talked about the increments. I looked at his season and basically two long stretches and two short ones. And just to try to get an idea of what kind of year he had. We all know the first three games he played, he looked fucking horrible. We were like, "What? Oh, this is not good." 763 save percentage allowed 14 goals on 59 shots. I wanted to see if there was a difference in shot volume he was facing. And if maybe that had something to do with it as the team's defense progressed throughout the season and then obviously fell off at the end. But it was first three games he played. Face 20.7, 20.7 shots per 60. Not a ton of shots came his way and he looked real bad. Then we all know about the 17-game stretch from November 3rd to January 18th where he was awesome. 930 save percentage, three shutouts, facing 26.1 shots per 60. So a decent number. The flyers were very good shot suppression team this year. 26 is an awesome number, especially when you consider just getting shots on net is the entire point of the game now. It's like strikeouts, home runs and walks and baseball. Everyone's just trying to get shots on net now. No one is quite the hurricanes, but like shot volume is huge. Yeah, it does. Then you look at the 28-game stretch. It was January 20th through April 9th where, yeah, there were a few really good starts in there, but overall, put up an 867 save percentage. 26.6 shots per 60. I think the bigger thing here though is- The big thing here though is the sheer number of starts during that stretch. That's where it really- This is when heart disappeared. Yes. And this is when air soon was basically given all the starts because they couldn't trust anyone else. That's what I was looking at and we'll get to the volume just the number of starts. And then at the end of the year, the final three appearances, he did find a way to dig himself out of the hole. He was in, posted a 968 save percentage, once shutout allowed two goals on 62 shots over the last three games. Closed out the season, closed out the season after what was a nightmare a couple of months. I was happy for him that he was able to finish the season on a high note rather than on that disastrous note that was the final two months. And just to close out the shot volume thing, I was like, all right, let's see what his best performances were. November 25th against the aisle, shutout, 25 shots. December 16th against Detroit, shutout, 32. January 13th against Winnipeg, 35. April 13th against the devil's 20. So it was like, as some goalies are really good when they see few shots, some are really good when they see a ton. His four shutouts, big variance there. Like 20 shots, 35, didn't matter. He was good in those situations. No unifying theme here. No, I checked out his home road splits. Home, 12, 10 and two with an 890, a 267 and two shutouts. Road, 119 and five with an 890, 297 and two shutouts. Basically, identical splits, home and road. It really wasn't that. It really just came down to the workload. And you look at not even just the number of games, but the time in between games. AirSense 17 great games came over a stretch of 35 games overall. So basically 50%, 48.6, I did do the math. Had to. In the span of 77 days, so one game like every four and a half days basically. And during that stretch, all strengths, expected goal against was 45.87. He gave up 31 goals and had an 842 high danger save percentage. He was fucking great. You're really, really good. And then we look at those 28 games that in the span of 34 games. Yeah, you only missed six. He played 82.4% of the games over a seven. And yeah, 20 years ago, that was normal. Not normal anymore. Not normal at all, especially for a guy who came into the season as the clear cut backup. Like that was what was going to happen unless he played himself into this role, which he did. And then obviously external factor Carter Hart made it even. But played 82.4% of the games in the span of 81 days. That's a game every 2.9 days. And that does include the all-star break, which was like nine days off. That's wild. That's wild. It's fucking insane. I can't believe I did all this math. And like, that's the true wild part of the building math. I want to do impressed Charlie, honestly, with all my math. And just to really back up this numbers in the workload, first two games out of the break, he gave up two goals total on 50 shots against Florida, the Stanley Cup champions, and Winnipeg, who were pretty fucking good too. Was really good. I was at that Florida game. I was a great game by him. Really good. There was two games out of the break. And then of course, the workload became again what it was. And during that stretch, all strengths expected goals against 65.33. He gave up 80 goals. A 769 high danger save percentage. A huge drop from the 842 he had on high danger shots in that 17 game stretch where he was great. It's really all about the workload with Ersen. So would you say it's fair to say his success this year? Hinge is pretty heavily on Fedotov's success. If you can put him out once a week rather than like Jesus, okay, it's a back-to-back, we have to play him. And he gets nine starts instead of, you know, 30. Like, do you think it's that simple? - So it is and it isn't. Because I do agree with your, I do agree with the overarching idea that you can't run Ersen into the ground. This year, like you did last year, if you want him to develop properly and also just get a fair shot, show what he can do. However, I don't know if I 100% agree that like it's all dependent about Fedotov because like there's nothing stopping them really from just continuing to play Fedotov, even if he stinks. Like they can continue to do a tandem and give Ersen the starts that is best for him, even if they know that Fedotov isn't that good. Like Fedotov can just go out there and get shelled twice a week. And then Ersen goes out there and plays well. And you'll learn that Ersen is good and Fedotov stinks and your draft picks higher. - And that is why I kind of wanted to ask earlier the, what do we think Fedotov's leash is? Because we don't even know if Alexi Kolosov is gonna be here, we think he will, at least in the organization, in the state. - We're hoping. - We're hoping. - We're hoping. - And we already saw what Cal Peterson is, which is horrible. - It's real bad. - And after the way. - Not good. - After the way the season went with him. - Terrible. - After the way the season went with him and his demotion after, what was it, the Pittsburgh game? - Yeah. - Can you hear the worst goals I've ever seen in my life? - It was unbelievable. - My God. - As somebody who played South Jersey high school ice hockey, it was one of the fucking worst goals in the games I've ever seen. - I was so sick that day. I ate a fever and like-- - So do the Cal creators. - And I still might have done a better shopping goal. - And like the way they were just like, totally threw him under the bus. - I don't even know. - The way they watched the game. Everybody knew the bus was already on top of him. I guess they didn't really have to throw him under there. He was there himself. But like, I don't even know if you can bring him back. Like, can he and John Tortorella in that locker room be like, yeah, we have confidence in Cal. You know, like, and then your other option is rookie Bella Russian, who may or may not even be coming. Like, that's why I wanted to like, what is Fido Tov's leash here? But it does make sense. Like you said, give him the gear. And worst case scenario, he starts 35 games. 20 of them are horrible. And guess what? We pick eight. - Yeah. - Like, that seems like a pretty-- - The other flip side of that. And this is where I say like, even though in theory, they don't have to run air, sit under the ground. If it turns out that it would all have stings. - You do still have John Tortorella. - In reality, you do still have John Tortorella as your head coach. He wants to win games. And if it turns out that he realizes, okay, I got one goalie I trust and one goalie who is bad, I am skeptical that he is actually going to adhere to a strict timeshare when one goalie can't stop a puck and the other one has a 918 save percentage. That's a completely fair point. What I'm saying is that they don't have to. Like, there is nothing stopping them from pulling back on Erison's workload out of fairness to him as opposed to doing the same thing they did last year because they only have one goalie they trust. - You can continue to start the bad goalie. - You can. - Also, there's no guarantee if it all is bad. He might be-- - No, no, that's, he might jump Erison in the depth job. - He very well could. - Like, this is a completely unknown situation. That's why I wanted to spend the day discussing it because we don't really know how it's going to go. - We don't know. - And we've said so many times, like, goal tending has such an outsized impact on the game. Yeah, if you have a superstar team, you can get by with a mediocre goalie. You might even be able to win a cup with one, but we don't have that. Our best player might be 19 years old. - And also, I mean, perfect example of the outsized impact of goal is that, look, I'm not saying that this was the only thing, but the Edmonton Oilers, the first month and half of the year, they couldn't buy a save, they fired their coach, the team was in shambles, it was like, what's wrong with Edmonton? Then, they start getting saves and they get one game away from winning the cup. Like, that's what bad goal tending to a team with the best player in the fucking world. - We're not even talking about, like, oh, they got prime hossing. Like, they just got a guy who didn't suck for a little bit. - Yeah. - Like, that's all they needed was a guy who didn't suck. - But that's the impact that having bad goal tending can have. If you're the fliers who are already just like a middle of the road team at best and you get crappy goal tending, like, you could pick fourth. Like, the fliers were not good for a long stretch of time, even before they were losing every night. Like, they weren't playing particularly well, like, after the heart situation. - True. - But, because they got the best goal tending in the league, November, December, and January, they were in the playoff hunt until game 82. - Yeah. - And that's what can happen for you. - Yeah. - It's a completely unknown situation, and it's kind of as much as we're like, oh, man, and like, listen, the point of this season is Maffee Michkov. - Oh, of course. - They might as well be called the Philadelphia Michkovs this year. - But everything's more fun when your goalings are at least stopping most of the shots. - Absolutely. - Because you're just, like, and it does have a carrier effect onto the skaters, because if the goalies can't stop a puck. - What are we even doing? - The skaters start running around like chickens with their heads cut off. - We saw it. - And that's the last thing you wanna see happen with a team is trying to implement a positive culture. - I really think, like, Dave Hachstall's first year is, I don't think he's a good coach. I don't think there's teams. - I barely see at all that neither. - Yeah, I don't think he's good. I don't think those teams were any good. But, like, I think his knees kind of got cut out from under him when in, like, the first two weeks of the season, they couldn't buy a save. He's like, all right, remember everything we did in training camp? Yeah, we're playing different now. Like, oh, that's probably gonna go well. And they lost 10 games in a row, and they rebounded. But, like, it went poorly, you know? I just, like, the goal-tending is so big and we have no idea that behind Mitch Cobb this year, in terms of storylines, like, yeah, Forster is huge. Like, all the Frost, all that. - The goal-tending might be the second- - The goal-tending might be the second- - The goal-tending might be the second-most important- - The only one I think could be bigger is Drysdale. - Drysdale's huge. - Yeah. - I don't, honestly, forgot about him when I was making that point. - Yeah. - But those two- - And we did get news yesterday down in Ocean City that Jamie Drysdale did confirm that it was a sports hernia that he is skating again, and that he expects to be fully ready for camp. So, we knew that he was hurt. Brier revealed that. I reported that he did already have the surgery. This was just Drysdale himself talking about the specifics, but it sounds like he's back-skating, he's back-working out, and he thinks he'll be completely good to go for camp. So, hopefully that proves to be the case. - He's just getting back to Ersin while we still have a few minutes here. Just like, I want him to win this job and be the guy, so we have- - Yeah, I do too. - I can put one of those- - I can put one of those checks next to the goal-tender? - Yeah. - You know? - As much as I like the idea of like Manfido top finally gets over here and kills it, that's a cool story, it'd be a fun story to write about. Ersin, to me, is my hope for the long-term goal-less mission. Number one, he's younger. - Number two, I've just watched him. We know we can get it done in the NHL level for long stretches. I want to see him grab the bull by the horns here and just take this job and ride, but that's what I'm rooting for. - I really respect, and like, listen, it's your dream to play in the NHL. No one's gonna be like, ah, workloads a little much for me today, coach. Like, he was, but I respect the position he was put in last year, and how he didn't complain, he never said he was worn down. Like, they're saying, like, yeah, goal is fucking tired. He was like, give it to me. Give me them starts. I really respect what he did for this team last year, stepping up, and I want to see him in a somewhat fair situation. Like, that was just, yeah. Morty bro, Dorne, Dominic Austin can play those games. What did I just, 28 out of 34? That ain't right for most goalies. We talk about Brian Elliott playing every game the month of December, that one year, four hack, and how it was ridiculous. That brand, he was also like in his 30s at the time. It was absolutely, it was even more. Yeah, it was, but he did that for three months. Yeah, like, Harrison just did that for three months. I want to see what he can do with just a normal NHL workload. Just like, this is what goalies get now. You start two out of three instead of eight out of 10. Like, that just makes a little bit more sense. Eight and a half out of 10 is what he was at. So I just want to see that, but there are some aspects, as much as it's like, okay, we can point to the workload, that was the number one thing. Young goalies struggle with rebounds. That is a thing that happens nine times out of 10 with young goalies. It's unsurprising. He gave up some rebound, and like, I don't want to just bounce off the pads, it was shot for a rebound. I thought there was a lot of times, he had opportunities to freeze pucks, then maybe he dropped one. That I think like, that was the bigger prop. Glove was good. Yeah. Blocking. Like, squeezing, maybe not so much than the puck is here, and they have another crack at it. There were some glaring plays where he had the opportunity to cover a puck, and would miss it, and that he doesn't need to work on. Like, there were a few goals that he allowed, because he like, put his glove on where he thought the puck was, and he just missed it. And then the play continues, and a goal gets scored. That's something he absolutely does need to work on. There's something here that I forgot about, that honestly, like, I just, in the outline, I wrote any particular parts of his game, you think he needs cleaning up. Yeah, I popped this out. And this is actually, yeah, this was a big one, because especially during that bad stretch, when we were like, all right, no idea what Ersen were getting tonight. And it was like, he makes the first three saves, and we're like, fuck yeah, we got good Ersen tonight. The good versus bad, he does need to find a way when he doesn't have it, to let in like two or three instead of 12. Yes, yes, that's big in that, you could tell by the midpoint of the first period, whether you were getting good or bad Ersen. And if you were getting bad Ersen, you were like, he's not making it through the rest of this game. No, like he's gonna get pulled at some point in the second period, and you're not gonna have your best stuff every game, and this is a big thing for pitchers. Like, sometimes you go out there, when you're at your best, you're throwing 98, and the fastball is only going up to 95, and you need to figure out a way to lean on your change-up, and lean on your slider and your sinker, to, you're gonna give up some runs. You don't have your best stuff. But you mitigate the damage. You give up three runs in five innings, and you give your team a chance to win, rather than getting pulled in the third, because you gave up eight. Now, it's a bullpen day, and we have no chance. Exactly. And it kills us for tomorrow, too. Exactly. And that's what Ersen was doing too much of last year, is that when he didn't have it, he really didn't have it. He needs to get better at limiting the damage on the days, when he doesn't have his best, 'cause you're not gonna have your best every day. Going back real quick, though, to the rebounds. I don't disagree with you that rebounds were a problem for him at times. I do wanna say, and again, not a goalie expert, but when I talk to goalie experts, they do say this, rebound control can be heavily impacted by fatigue, because a lot of it is directing pucks into the corners, not having them come out in the slot, and a lot of that is just the slight angle of your pat. And if you're a little bit more tired, your angles are gonna be a little bit off, you're not quite, you don't quite have the energy to twist that pat a quarter of an inch one way, and then a puck that normally would go into the corner, instead goes into the slot, and then you give them a big rebound. So not saying that the rebounds weren't a problem, I'm just saying that I do wonder if that is tied to the workload he dealt with during that crazy stretch. Absolutely, and a lot of it was like the times where he just needed to freeze it, and maybe lost it somehow, times where it hit him in the glove, he didn't squeeze it, and so much of that, I just think is like, what's the hardest thing for all young players, like what does he need? Consistency, like that's always, and that's part of consistency, like being able to mimic your mechanics no matter what. And that comes with time and reps. He's gonna get a lot of that this year. Would appear so. I am, yeah, it's... I'm cautiously optimistic about it. Mitch Kavwan dries Dale in the goalies like two A and two B. I think that's fair. Yeah. That's really, like dries Dale, he's the direct Gucci replacement. Yeah. And Gucci's gonna play this year for allies. We're gonna be comparing the two all year. And the goalies, it's like, wow, we still have Colossev, you know? We still have Zafragen, we still have Yarnasen. So there's not maybe that immediate, like this is very consequential, we need to know who the goalie is, what I'd like to. Dries Dale needs to show real progress. He needs, yeah. Or at the very least, he needs to show he doesn't get hurt all. Yeah. Yeah. Just to ease some of those concerns that they got taken to the cleaners in that go, D.H., right? It would be nice to know that they didn't. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. With the price of just about everything going up during inflation, we thought we'd bring our prices down. So to help us, we brought in a reverse auctioneer, which is apparently a thing. Mint Mobile unlimited premium wireless. Get 30, 30, get 30, get 30, get 30, get 20, 20, get 20, get 20, get 20, get 15, 15, 15, just 15 bucks a month. So, give it a try at mintmobile.com/switch. $45 up front for three months plus taxes and fees, promoting for new customers for limited time. Unlimited more than 40 gigabytes per month. Slows. Full turns at mintmobile.com. 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And I don't know if I quite put two and two together as to why it was a week goalie class, but I'm gonna throw some names out at you here because this might explain why I think generally speaking, everybody was like, "Yeah, not that great." This number says that there are eight Russians, seven Canadian and one US goalie. I'm gonna tell you, this is, we're looking at the four nations tournament, the Projectit rosters. You're three Canadian goalies. Projectit right now as the starters on NHL.com for Canada. Jordan Bennington, Aidenhill, Stuart Skinner. Canada is not pumping out good goalies right now. You know who is pumping out good goalies? The United States, who have Thatcher Dempo, Jeremy Swamin, Connor Hellebach, and Jake Ottinger. The US goalie. - You just named like the Vessina voting list. - Yeah, US goaltender production right now is way better than Canada, and this is a down year for the US. Canada was a decent year at least, but Canada ain't pumping out good goalies for whatever reason, the US and Europe, because obviously Russia's pumping out good goalies. Sweden always pumps out good goalies. They're pumping out their usual share of solid goal tenders. The US has gotten a lot better. Canada's gotten a lot worse, so that might have played into why this is a weaker than average goalie class, because the US had a weaker than average goal year. - This is a dumb question. Does Brazil's kid count as a Russian or an American? - Ooh, 'cause they live here. - I think American. He was, I don't know, he was probably born here. - Yeah, I think he's, I think he's American. He's probably dual, but he probably counts as American. - All right, just curious. South Jersey guy. - That's the only two goalies I know in the draft were the back offs kid and Brazil's kid. - He's not the back offs kid, is he? I think his name is just the back off. - His name is Ilya Nabakov, isn't it? - I'm pretty sure he's not related to-- - He's not his kid? - I gotta check this. I assumed he wasn't. - I assume there's a bunch of players in the draft that have the same name but weren't related, but I thought again la and Nabakov were, but I could be wrong. - No, not related. - No, he's not related. - So he's really just teach. - Okay, that's funny as hell then. Anyway, well, there was Sakakoyevu's kid was in the draft. - Right, right, right. - So he was in there. - And I assume Shatan's kid. - Yes. - We're a South Shatan junior. - But he also has a senior. - But he also has a senior. - Oh, he was a junior too. - Oh, that's probably a good way. - He was a junior. It was definitely a good way. - All right, and the second Super Chat we have here, Catholic Nano is back. Ersen and Fidotov start season. Fidotov takes over goalie one. Colosov kills it in Lehigh Valley. Do they look to move Ersen in a package for a top center? - I'm, no, I'm gonna say the answer's no for a few reasons. Reason number one is if Ersen falters, if Ersen falters, they're not gonna get him in a package for a top line center. Like we just saw Linus Olmark get traded and it wasn't for a one C, it was for a late first round pick. - Yeah. - And he's real good. So the only way this happens, the only way they put themselves in a position where they're looking to trade Ersen is if he falters. And if he falters, he's not gonna be valuable enough to be involved in a package for one C. The other reason is just that I don't know if they would, like Fidotov is gonna be 28, like he's older. Ersen is younger. If Fidotov takes the job, they just might look at it as, well now we got two good goalies. Now we have our tandem for the next four years. I don't think they are necessarily gonna look at it as, well now we can trade Ersen. They just might say, well now we got a 1A and 1B for a while. This is great. I don't think they're gonna look at it in the, I don't think they're gonna look at it in the Boston realm of like, well we need to trade one of them. Boston even didn't trade one of them so they absolutely had to. - Yeah, they had to figure out a way to re-sign Swamin and like get him the ice time and Olmark is older and they have holes that need addressing. But to your point, yeah, like the Devils had the 10th pick and said they were open to moving it to fill the biggest hole they have and then didn't. Like, yeah, maybe if they wanted to get Sorrows, they would have had to do it. But they're like, nah, Jacob Markstrom for like a late, for yeah, done, sure, you know. And say it, Ersen, who we like him. - We do. - But not exactly Jacob Markstrom. I don't know what you're getting for him, but it probably isn't a 1C. - Exactly. - But we'll see, we'll see how it all works out. - We'll see. - I would love to see all three of these guys kill it. That would be a lot of fun. - That would be the ice. To have a glut of goalies and then still summon the pipeline. That would be a lot of fun. It would be different. - All right, we got one more super chat here. - One more super chat here. - Just be sure to let's talk to the liar, Adam S. Our teams that hire lawyers, et cetera, better off than teams who hire X NHL players as GMs. Love you guys. Hair looking sharp shot. You did get a nice haircut. - Yes I do. - Thank you. - Adam, this is a question that would involve a lot more research than just being able to answer like off the cuff on a show. What I will say is that like Bill Zito is definitely doing a good job of making the agent, like lawyer agent to GM pipeline look more viable because he's doing a really, really good job in Florida. - But-- - Joe Sacic's doing all right. - Yeah, yeah. There's other former players as GMs that are doing a great job. - I do think it's opening the door to be like, there are so many routes. I mean, Jesus Christ, you can be a-- - What was Dr. C? - Microbiologist. - I would never-- - I was a neuroscientist. - Biochemist. - Biochemist. - Biochemist. - You can be, like John Cooper who was a lawyer and a lacrosse coach is now like the best coach in high. - I certainly wanted to-- - I do think there's just a lot more doors opening, but I don't know. It's always gonna be a good old boys club in some respects. - In some ways. I mean, that was the funny part when the capitals announced that they were moving Patrick into the GM job and they were promoting McClellan. And I was like, oh, he's young. He's like fresh blood and then I look up and he's like part of like the Lester Patrick family. - It's like, oh, yeah, I wonder how he got it. - I have a trophy, I have a trophy named Patrick me. - All right, that's pretty much it. That is all the time we have for you today. Thank you all for listening. Thank you for hanging out. If you haven't already, you gotta hit that subscribe button. Follow us right here on YouTube. Never miss a live show. Make sure you set those reminders. Charlie and JP will be with you live tomorrow at one o'clock. Congratulations, Frankie, bomb, bomb. I will be at his wedding this weekend. So that's where I will be. Follow us on Twitter @PHLY_FLYERS and follow the podcast wherever you get those PHLY flyers. - Subscribe on YouTube, please, if you are a regular watcher and haven't subscribed. - Oh, let's do that. - Oh, let's do that. - Do that thing where everyone hits like. Other shows do that. - Other shows do that. - They're like, let's hear it. 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Let’s talk goaltenders! We’ve talked a lot about the high-end talent the Philadelphia Flyers need to acquire and develop in order to one day compete for a Stanley Cup, and that conversation mostly revolves around top-line forwards, and top-pair defensemen. But goalies are pretty damn important.
Sam Ersson showed signs of viability as a starter last season, but the heavy workload when he became the only NHL-caliber netminder on the roster torpedoed his numbers. Ivan Fedotov is finally here, but he’s a huge question mark as a 28-year-old rookie. Alexei Kolosov is allegedly coming over. Last year’s draft picks have a ton of potential but need time.
Charlie & Bill take a look at the goalie situation on this Thursday edition of PHLY Flyers.
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