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Cause honestly, today's show is a little light. If you've heard literally anything reported as fact. No, not really. Uh, tonight, I think will be when we'll, when we'll hear some stuff. It's the big rumor that was out there yesterday, though, and this wasn't just in Vegas. This was online as well. Is the rumor that the Carolina hurricanes might be getting a pick ahead of the flyers, which is very interesting for the flyers because I have no inside information whatsoever as to which player Carolina would like. However, in the past, they have been favorable towards guys like Berkeley cat. I was going to say, it doesn't mean the steel cat from us. Yeah, like it does not mean that they are definitely like they also have like guys like constellaneous to guys who score really well in in European leagues that maybe don't have the super flashy skills. But if you look at the numbers, they're great. But, you know, looking at guys like Seth Jarvis, you know, and they always take small skilled guys. Let me put it this way. If you're a flyers fan, he went the flyers, they Berkeley cat and like cross your fingers that Carolina doesn't get the 10th pick from the devil's or the 11 pick for Buffalo, both of whom have been rumored to be interested in Marty natures who potentially could bring back one of those picks on a tray. So just cross your fingers straight doesn't app. I'm texting Tolsky the second the show is over and being like, dude, come on, man. We need this. Like, please, have you seen where we are? Like stop it. No, it just needs it just some put a little pressure on Danny to get up and get like the sixth or seventh pick. That's all. Get up there. It has to happen. We're not. We're not sitting here just completely defenseless. Danny's got the assets to get up. Just go do it, man. Top 10 picks. You can get real fucking wide. Those get traded all the time. I think Charlie said Charlie did tell it to go. It's a pretty regular thing. It's I think easy to do. So, yeah, we'll see how that all works out. I did see that rumor yesterday would be an interesting trade. Obviously the devil's getting natures. And then, of course, you know, Carolina. You know, Carolina getting the 10th pick, both of those things, not awesome. Yeah, I don't like either of those things. But let's get to the super chat now from Adam S, Adam with 9.99 even went live today. Wanted to make sure he got his comment. And we've all seen breakdowns of who the most talented players are in the upcoming draft, but yet to hear who the toughest guys are with talent. It's fliers to your tradition to be able to score hit and fight. And I did Adam S. Thank you for this. This is a one of the mailbag questions I got for yesterday that I put aside for a future mailbag of the day. And Adam is very, very, he's very intent on getting into this question of this draft. Yeah, so he does not wait. So he wanted to question answer. Charlie, this is one for you. Me personally, like, just what you told me about Yakum Chuck seems like he's a pretty badass. Anyone else who you think might check those boxes. Yeah, he's probably the closest. I mean, there's no, there's no Tom will sit in this draft. Let me put it that way. So if you are dreaming on a 30 goal plus score who is huge and beats the crap out of everyone like that guy is not in this draft. But also, you might just need to come to the conclusion that like that guy doesn't really exist anymore. I was going to say like do, but also like do like goony tough hockey players even exist anymore like with kids coming up through. I feel like they've eliminated a lot of that. I mean, from, but if I'm like, that's a great way to have a long NHL career. Well, yeah. Now, like, obviously, you have to be as good as the kachucks to make it work, but like, I don't know, man. You're going to be a third round pick like Nick Cousins just want to Stanley Cup like be like the super late. Not a star player by any means is a fourth line. But if you're that guy, like there's always room for Garnet Hathaway's in the league. Also, though, I feel like we've heard from fighters before that like that wasn't really the goal going in. Yeah, that was the like, Oh, shit. This is how I stay on the roster. I'm Dan Carcelo. I was the best player on all of my teams. Now I'm like a nobody. But if I beat the shit out of everybody, I'm definitely going to make the team. So I guess I'm doing that now. And then that's how they form their career. It's not really because they want to. It's because they have to. So I don't really know if like at the draft level, you're going to identify a guy that's like going to be a face puncher. Yeah, I mean, no, I had heard that Matt Rembe wasn't really a base puncher in his early days. That was something that he kind of, he realized he was going to have to like he was big and huge. So of course he was physical, but he wasn't the fight every game at Rembe that we saw like he learned that that was a way to get himself to the NHL and he's in the NHL. The only crappy part about it is that I really hope that as a result of that, it doesn't lead to him, you know, having brain damage in 10, 15 years, just to get a taste of the NHL because this stuff is real. So that would be a bummer. But I mean, it'll get him to the NHL, especially when you're six with six with seven like he is. But no, I would say Jakum Chuck is probably the closest to what you're talking about there and that he's big. He's big. He hits. He's got that nastiness to his game. Stian Solberg is another guy. He was he's kind of a late riser. I don't think he's a realistic option at 12. He's probably going to fall more in that like 14 to 20 range. So I don't think the fire is going to have an opportunity to take him, but he's really he's a physical guy. He really likes to lay the boomstick, let's say. So he's a so he's an option if you're really interested in that. That said, I mean, Adam, I'll be honest with you like Jakum Chuck, I like, but I like Jakum Chuck because of the skills. The fact that he's physical and mean is a nice bonus, but like, I had him as a top 10 player in his career because of the skills. So like, for me, for me, like, the physicality and the nastiness is like not something I personally would prioritize like if they take Solberg at 12 because he's big and nasty. I will be immensely critical of that pick. You might like that pick because he's big and nasty and hits people. For me, I would disagree because my thing is I want this team to have more skill. That's what they need for more, in my opinion, than guys who hit because they have a guy who hits in his big and he stinks in restaurants line and and they're bad anyway because he's they paid him way too much money because he's big and he hits. Another guy who I do like, though, again, and this is more for the skill, the the toughness of the physicality is more of a bonus is is Igor Soren. He's a KHL guy, a Russian guy, might be an option around to who's actually one of Alex Appiards, round two preferences, and he kind of gives me the vibe where like he's not huge. He's not going to be like super intimidating, but he has like kind of a nozzle and cadre vibe to him where like he's kind of a little shit out there. He has some size. He's physical and he's just really annoying in a past. Obviously, cadre wasn't afraid to lay the big head, but I also think he's skilled. So, like those are the kinds of guys I want. I don't want to reach on a guy just because he's big in me. I did. I do want to ask about because going in the top 10 in this draft will be the son of a player who kind of fit the bill of yeah star player also. Physical beat the shit out of your room again, his son Teige just reading his prospect profile right here. It says he's got some physicality, but would it be fair to say like if you're expecting Jerome, like, you know, I'm going to drop the gloves and the Stanley Cup final. That's probably not what you're going to get. It was a different time bill. I know. Different times. Twenty years ago, I know. No, it's ten years ago. It was. The 90s were ten years ago people. I don't know why people can't figure that out. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I mean, Teige is about the same size. I think he will be about the same size as his dad when he, when he reaches his pride, like he's not as built yet, but gets 17, 18 years old. He's going to put on more weight. He's going to put on more muscle. I don't know if he has the projection of being quite as physical and intimidating as again was as Jerome was, I guess, but it could, it could develop as he gets stronger. He's not a not physical player. Like he's willing to go into the dirty areas in the corners and battle for pucks. So maybe if he puts on another 15, 20 pounds of muscle, then he'll feel more comfortable trying to blow guys up along the boards rather than just pin them. Who knows. All right. And we have another super chat here from Gary, what's going on? Gary. There's Arlene Kelly. What asset would it cost to get into the top 10? A big one. Like, if you don't want to give up 12, the answer is Travis Connect me. I think you like the value of the pick. I think you could do 12 and Lawton, but no one trades top 10 picks. Like, that's the thing. Like, what add? Like, yeah, I think you would have to trade 12 to get the top 10. Probably because I don't think. Yeah, I don't think that 32 is going to, no one cares about pick 32. I think it would be 32 and something else. Yeah. But I think that if you're trying to get to the top 10, it's going to be a thing and 12. Probably. Yeah. Could you think B12 could do it? I mean, these in 12 to me would be a dramatic overpay. To me, because to me, like, basically, if you're looking at the draft value chart. To move up from 12 to seven, including 12 in the trade would be the value of about a mid second round. Okay. So now that now to say that, like top 10 picks don't get traded very often. So you're probably going to get have to give up more than the value of a mid second round pick. That is the statistical value of the difference between seven and 12. That's why I theorize it. I don't necessarily think this is going to happen. But I theorize that, like, 12 plus Lawton makes some sense to me because that's around the value of Scott Lawton. And what we've seen is that Danny Breyer, what he'll do, and he's done this now twice. He will tell other teams, if I'm going to trade this guy, I need to get a first round pick. And then he gets the first round pick. Like, I'm thinking the pro for off deal and the Walker deal. He gets the first round pick, but he gets, he gets it in a creative way. You know, he takes on contracts to get the pro overall pick. He takes on the Johansson contract to get the pick in the Walker trade. Maybe if you, if he's told teams, which I think he has, like you, if he wants Scott Lawton, you need to give me a first round pick. He can sort of spin it as, well, I got a first round pick. I might have traded away a first round pick too. But I did get a first round pick in the Scott Lawton trade. That makes some sense to me. Now I think Joel Farriby has significantly more value than a mid second round pick. Yeah. So 12 plus Farriby to be a dramatic overpay just to move on five slots. Like to me, if I'm trading Farriby, try to get seven. I'm offering Joel Farriby in 32. And I'm saying, yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah. Yeah, just like, I know it's the draft. So these guys are like shiny toys and they like, yeah, it could even be a boat. And I know we've been a little critical of Joel Farriby. But like, if these dudes turned out to be 20 some goal score, like that's probably that good. You kind of need, like you're hoping as much as like, yeah. Connecting doesn't fit the timeline. You trade him for a haul. It's like one of the pieces of that haul hopefully turns out to be Travis Connect. Right. You know, and yeah, maybe it fits the timeline better. But also you have to be a little realistic about what these players are going to be. Some of them might turn out to be stars. A lot of them are going to turn out to be good second line players or Morgan Frost. It's like, I don't know. What is he? 3C? Like, you know? I guess trading B is for a hot and a happy trade makes more sense than a draft. Yeah. I would think so. But I just think that if you're saying 12 plus Farriby for seven, I think you're selling Farriby's value. Sure. That's fair. I think he has a lot more value than that. Like, if I'm Ottawa, I take that trade and run. I just don't think the flier should should make that off. I don't think they will. I think they will. I don't think they would. Yeah. Like, I'm not convinced that Farriby is getting traded. I know he's been in a lot of chatter mostly because again, and this is something like I pointed this out multiple times on the show. I will point it out once more. Trade speculation and rumors are fun. So far be it for me to tell people not to get excited about them because it's fun. And you get to talk about something in the summer. But just keep in mind that we in the media. The bot like this stuff drives clicks and it drives interest. So just keep in mind that all of the insiders have an ulterior motive here beyond giving you all of the information. Their ulterior motive is the more things I report, the more likely I am to keep my job and get raises because I drive lots of traffic and clicks and views. So just like I'm not saying it's false. I think that very, very rarely if ever do, especially the trusted insiders, report something that they know is bullshit. But do I think they sometimes puff up the rumors a bit? Yeah. I absolutely think they do. Yeah. I mean, if I can use just peek behind the curtain because these people aren't stupid. In the title of the show every day, if I can use the word draft or trade, it significantly impacts like how many people might see this in their algorithm. Because people are always googling NHL trade, NHL, like that's just a thing that happens. So yeah, yeah, it makes sense to, you know, okay, yeah, I saw these two GM's talking. Oh man, I don't know. I think Philly and Ottawa might be working on this. And this is just an example. I'm not calling out anyone's reporting. I'm just picking these two teams. Yeah, like I'm just picking these two teams. Like, oh yeah, man, it's just like, I don't know, maybe Danny just likes this guy and they're having a drink. Like, it's just like this is very much possible. Man, we haven't even got to like the first topic yet. We have a bunch of super chats and thank you because today is the calm before the storm. Like tomorrow's going to be a ton of fun. It's also going to be a very busy day for Charlie down on the draft floor. We have our draft party and show starting it. What time are we going live tomorrow, six or seven? We're live at seven. All right, cool. Good to know. It's going to be a pretty wild day tomorrow. Today, it's just kind of like, so what's going on, guys? It's going on. I'm not saying yet. So thank you for all these super chats. What's this next one here? Another one from Adam S. Just don't want Michkov getting bullied out there. Listen, I understand that line of thinking because I agree. And I do think like I built a little depth chart in my head. We're all in my notepad or my phone the other day. And I am looking at this team and going, man, this has, if they fill the holes, like I have an exit one C and X on left side, right, left side number one day, all that stuff. But like if they fill these holes, this has a chance to be a very entertaining team, a very highly skilled team. Also, they're small. Like this is kind of looking, shaping up to be right now the way they're built. So they're a smaller tee. It doesn't have to be. There's ways to supplement that. That said, I watched a game this year where Jacob Trouba laid a hit on, I think maybe Joel Faraby in the defense and the Rangers defensive zone. All of a sudden, Nick DeLaurier is chasing after him, has his hand on his jersey. Chasing after him is Trouba skating up the ice, dragging DeLaurier behind him. And he just fucking pops Garnet half away, not them. Almost out. There is no deterrent factor. People are going to hit Matt Vamichkov because he's really good, and he's going to have the puck a lot presumably. So they're going to want to stop that from happening by hitting him. Like there's no way to prevent that. Yes, I love when we answer back. That's cool. But there is zero deterrent factor. Yeah, we have Nick DeLaurier, one of like maybe three actual fighters. Yeah. Left in the league. It's like him Reeves and Rebek. Doesn't deter anything. Like the hit still happened because the other team still wants to hurt your really good players. Yeah. So that's just something we're going to have to deal with. And Mitch Koff is hopefully greasy enough that he can just avoid getting hit. It'd just be better. Yeah, be better. Well, really the answer here is our boy H. Mack, Hunter McDonald. He is the solution. Oh, God, I keep forgetting about him. That is the answer. He's already. I already have a paired with Jamie Drysdale for life protecting him. Now he's got Mitch Koff to worry about to. Can you wear Andrew McDonald's number just for fun? It would be 47. We're bringing it back. Yeah. Let everybody who bought an Andrew McDonald jersey for some reason. And those people deserve no. No. No, I'm glad. Actually, I'm glad it's spelled differently. Oh, yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah, it's it's a mic, not Mac. Foyled by the Mick. All right. Another one here from Linden 49. Jakob Chuck cannot play D. Poor backwards skating, poor pivot, poor decision-making on defense. Over one hundred penalty minutes and only two fights, a penalty machine. Yeah, I think you can coach that out of them. Also, I think sometimes you just got to board people. Like I do think that's a part of hockey where sometimes you just got to throw a bad hit. This kind of thing is like, okay, Linden 49 respectfully. Would this kid be so high on everyone's draft board if he was actually bad in defense? I kind of think this is a place where like, I'm going to trust, I don't know, Bobby Mack and Scott Wheeler, like they probably know more. There is a there is a chance just like you look at his measurables. He's a big dude. And then you look at the hands and go. Yeah, I see why someone would fall in love with this. Like, that is the, oh man, could he be a defensive Tom Wilson? Like, can he do both things? And it's like, well, we'll see. But I like, I have no idea. We'll see. Also our penalty kills. We can deal with penalties. That's when we score our goals. Yeah. I mean, what what Linden says, like that those are the concerns. Those are the weaknesses. However, I definitely think that he is or she, I don't know. Linden is a guy or a girl. I definitely think that that evaluation is accentuating the bad. Like it's, it's exaggerating. Cause like, I don't think Jakob Chuk is terrible defensively. He's not the best at reads at this stage of his career and he makes some mistakes. I also don't think he is a terrible skater. I think he's actually quite a good straight line skater. And I think is skating over the course of his draft year on the whole. If you're talking about the edges, the acceleration and whatnot, it got better. If he's not that great of a skater, but like, I don't think he is. I think he is a better skater than Evan Bouchard. And Evan Bouchard is a legitimate top hair borderline number one defenseman at the NHL level for a team that went to game sound of the cup final. So that's not something that like really scares the hell out of me in terms of, uh, of his downside. Now he's a risky player. It could turn out that he is a third pair of defense. We're at the NHL level because the hockey IQ just isn't there and he's going to be a defensive liability. But he has enough tools that I think you can shape him into at least an OK defensive defenseman. And given the puck skills that he has, the shot, the confidence with the puck, the upside is there. So I don't think Lyndon is wrong in expressing those concerns. I just think those concerns are a bit exaggerated. That said, I'm sure there are scouts that would probably echo that same thing. The scouts that don't believe in Yakubchuk would say he sucks defensively. He can't skate. Don't pick him. But there are a lot of other scouts that would look at him and say the skating is trending upwards. It's going to get better. And we can work on the defense at the point where he's at least OK. This is the fun of the draft. There's going to be differing opinions. I will say based on nothing but vibes, because again, I don't watch tape. For some reason, I feel like if anyone's going to bust out of the top 10 of him. It does feel like there's a. I feel like he's the biggest bust potential. Like he has. I think that might be like a wild swing of. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's going to go 12. No, he's going to go six. Right. Really? Yeah. OK. Cool. Like I have no idea that's with it. And so like Charlie said, there are always so many varying opinions. It is the fun of the draft. I like when people stake their claim. This is the guy I hate. This is the guy that's going to be good. Yeah. Like I do enjoy that part. And I just I've seen enough drafts that I know I have no idea. Nobody does. That's what's fun about it. Yeah. They're all guessing. Before we go any further, I got to let you know. Today's show is sponsored by Better Help. Listen, I think I think a lot of us, whether it's for the little things in life. How much time and emotion we put into our sports teams or the bigger things in life. Whether it's setting boundaries with your family. Learning to just maybe celebrate yourself a little more. Whatever it might be, we could all use little time talking to somebody. And that's where Better Help comes in. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give Better Help a try. It's entirely online designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. 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So I think the easiest trade if they're going to move up is 12 and something to get up a couple of slots to pick the player they target. If it's Caton, awesome. If it's somebody else, I trust the scouts because I have no other recourse. Now, all I can do is trust the experts and by that, I mean, Charlie. All right, and the next super chat from Gary. Charlie, could I be over hyping Caton? He is one of the guys that I think there's been this. Oh, man, if we can get him, that kind of solves. Yeah. All right. Like I said earlier, yeah, I would trade Travis Connect me to move up in this draft. Also, if a dude is as good as Travis Connect me, that's a win. Like are we like, is Berkeley, Caton above and beyond that? Maybe he has a higher ceiling than someone who like, you know, you've called Travis Connect. He's a legit first line right winger. Mm hmm. I think they're legitimate concerns for any cat. Now I like him a lot. He's tomorrow. I'll be releasing my top 50 draft board on all PHL item.com. Spoiler, Berkeley Cat is in my top five. So I'm very high on them. However, it's not like he's a perfect prospect. Now the production in the WHL was great. That said, he got a lot of ice time. So, you know, part of it is well. You can hold up with that kind of ice time and other part of it as well. If he's getting 27 minutes a night, yeah, he's going to rack up a lot of points. So maybe the numbers are inflated a little bit there. The big concern I would say with Caton, or I guess the two big concerns. But the big concern from the flyers perspective is it's not any way to perform a certainty. He's going to be able to stick at center. That's the big concern. And it's not even just that he is smallish, which he is. He's very slight. He's under six foot, whatever. It's more that he's small and he doesn't have the kind of like defensive acumen. He's not that great defensively. He blast the zone a lot. Like there are people who legitimately think that like his skill set might be better suited to win. And he might be a great way. But the flyers really need a center. And it's not that he won't be real good for the flyers if he has to move over to wing. He very well might be. But one of the reasons why I think flyers fans are so excited about Caton is because of this idea that like maybe he could be that center they need. Maybe he'd be the center for Mitch Cobb. It's no guarantee six to center. That I think is the big concern. The defensive concerns are also real. You know, this could like the guy who I and I put this in my I've written so many draft articles this week. I honestly don't remember which article it was in. I put it in one of my articles that the one of the players that he kind of reminds me a bit of. Not completely because obviously there isn't you know that you can't do an apples apples comparison. And it's a very funny comparable. If he hits his ceiling, he kind of reminds me of Danny Breyer. Like and and Breyer and Breyer was that kind of guy we're like, he was not good defensively. He was not the kind of guy that you wanted facing top lines. And he would play wing sometimes because he wasn't necessarily your perfect center. Now he obviously plays center a lot too. Yeah, that line with Leno and and Hartle. So he could be a center, but was he was he really a true one see all situations guy? I know not even at his best he wasn't, but he was a 90 to 100 point guy and that was real freaking cool. So I don't want you to like go into the draft thinking that Berkeley Caden is the solution to all of their problems. He's a very skilled guy who I'm very high on, but it's not that he doesn't have flaws in his game. It's not that there isn't risk in his profile there is. Do you think that sorry dinner? Do you think that like in the next five years or so I feel like we're starting to get away from this like extremely fixed idea of positions in a way like it seems like even now. Like you know, wingers will take face off sometimes like I feel like maybe like this idea that you need this guy to play this position. And if he's not this particular kind of guy he can't play that like I kind of feel like maybe hockey is getting away from that a little bit. And so maybe like you're starting to see with these kids. Like you have to think of it differently than just like is center is wing and if he's the center he's taking the face off. If he's the way you don't mean like that kind of stuff. So you think of when they put Shen and Breyer together and it was like you two are like both 75% of center. Yeah. So we have a good one when we combine. And it's okay yeah we're moving Claude Giroud a wing. Also he and couturier are going to go back and forth taking face off on the strong side like Landis cock and McKinnon did that when they play together. But yeah you're going to alternate like and we do have John Torrella who again while we think of him sometimes as this dinosaur. He's the rover guy like he is kind of maybe not positionless hockey but just kind of aggressive listen you know I want position less hot. The best five hockey players out at all times. That's all of them can do stuff. It's teach someone to skate backwards I could do it it ain't that hard. You know these are these are high level athletes. I do though. I think I think we are we are turning in more of a positionless hockey direction but it is still like generally speaking if you are the center. You are the guy that's lower in the defensive zone. Yeah. And if you are the winger especially on breakouts you are the guy who's higher in the defensive zone who has to deal with you know the pressure of someone coming in to pinch on you the defensive pinching on you you know to try to disrupt you as you receive a pass up high along the boards like. Yes, there is more motion now and sometimes you'll see a center up at the wing spot just because that's the way the play went and it was a fast moving play but still more often than not. The centers are go down low more you know especially in the defensive zone and that is where it does help if you're big. If you're bigger you are more able to deal with the kind of traffic that is down there and be able to be a successful outlet for your defense men and be able to win battles down low near the net along the board behind the net. So it's still important and I don't know if that's ever going to completely go away but Chris Peter said this when we talked to him a few weeks ago he said that yeah like one of the reasons why he does believe that cat and Ken stick at center at the NHL level is because the way that the center position is viewed is different than it was you 10 15 20 years ago so Kelly there's a true to that but I do think that like size is still helpful at center and the center position is still distinct sure is there like I know I'm biased to a certain type of hockey I know like I'm not anti small player does anyone else have the concern that the flyers might be a little small. I hadn't thought about it until you just brought it up. I mean I think that only becomes a problem in the playoffs because they don't call anything anymore and the flyers still have to get to the playoffs so I think I'll worry about that when I need to. I don't know. Also like if faster than the other team and you're greasier than the other team and you have the puck more than the other team then stuck a mat that you're fucking small because you're doing stuff. I don't have a problem with small players individually like take the best guy. I just think at a certain point you need to add some time. I think part of your concern here it's not even like look do the flyers have some small players absolutely I think the flyers probably are more concerned than you would think about their future decor because they look at it and they're like I think when you say size you say size but you more means size that hits in his physical physical like chocolatour chocolatour is big Travis and I'm is big. If it is big types of force or is big these guys are all big. It's just that they don't fit the archetype of like the big dude who throws a lot of hits. But like from a pure size standpoint these they they have tall dudes. They have dudes that are wrong. They have tall dude like but like saying I'm as lanky as I know he put on all the weight and everything but like I just don't see that element of like winning board battles download consistently also like I'm hoping Sean is a big guy as part of this team like it's one of those okay yeah he's a bigger guy and I do think he plays physically a different way with body positioning more than big hits like I think he plays an underrated physical game. Also I don't know if he can keep up at this level anymore that's something I have to see this coming seats whether or not that's possible before I factor him into like oh well we do have that element in him. I don't know if we do. I see all the super chats we're going to get to them. It's just a mailbag Thursday. Yeah it really this is incredible. How many super chats do we have just like I think there's three more. Geez this is the same people or is it new people. 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Well we know that there's not going to be a buyout today because in order to buy someone out you to put them on waivers first and the flyers have not yet put anyone on waivers now. The two guys obviously are Atkinson and Pearson at this point if we haven't heard anything about Ryan Johansson my assumption is is that he is still claiming that he is injured and can't play. And if that's the case and there's a good chance he's just going to be on long term injury reserve for the rain. I still think Atkinson is going to get bought out. I do but they have some time this doesn't have to this doesn't have to be decided upon until the 30th which means that they would have to have someone on waivers by the 29th which is Saturday they've got a few days. And I'm sure what's probably going on is that Danny is trying his best to see if he can trade at him so he doesn't have to have that second year. Now if we are at 10 a.m. on Saturday and it's midway through day two of the draft and Danny Breyer has not yet found anyone. My assumption would be he put someone waivers as for Peterson I've always assumed they're going to keep them, but I guess if if a couple of other moves are made maybe if there's a situation where they need to clear caps based in some way. Maybe he gets bought out but I still think Agnes is getting bought out. It's just not something that has to happen yet because I think with Breyer he's got a lot of calls in the fire. There's a lot going on and he's going to wait to see how this plays out before he makes a decision because it doesn't have to make a decision. Yeah. All right. And now I want to talk about the unsigned as of yet. Matt Vay Mishkov entry level contract. Why isn't he signed Charlie? What's happening? Well that's the question. I reported this. I reported this two days ago. I know I was doing it online. The question I want to ask is now while they can go over by 10% in the off season over the cap and you can solve your cap issues when the season begins by putting Ryan Ellis on LTL. Ryan Ellis on LTL or if you choose to do so. Right now, the Flyers have $803,572 of cap space. Do you think it really just might have to wait until they buy out or trade Cam Atkinson? Figure out something to clear a little bit of space. How much of that is a concern? No, that is definitely not the case for a few reasons. Number one, you are allowed and now the Flyers I don't believe we're using this yet. But they could. You are permitted to put a player on long term age of reserve in the off season. And he does not then count against your cap or I mean he does count against your cap in a weird around that way. But he doesn't count against the 10% over thing because you have the allowance factor. Number two, and this is a really important point to make. Guys on entry level contract don't count against the off season cap. Like if they did, then then every single guy they have on an entry level contract in the AHL would count against their cap and they obviously don't. Look at that. See, Charlie, this is why I ask simple questions to Charlie sometimes because he has multiple answers for you. That's what I love. I wanted to go over the bonus structure a little bit too, Charlie, because I didn't know exactly what was allowed and what isn't like, Oh, can they just give him a 10 games played sort of a bonus the way what Boston did for Brad Marsha or for. Correct, I'm the center Bergeron. A couple years ago, a year ago when like, yeah, you know, the great one. Like his contract basically doubled when he hit 10 games and it was like, okay, yeah, we'll just pay him that and over just next year. Entry level contracts are a little different. There's only certain things you can give bonuses to for forwards. And I wanted to go over this stuff. So he's going to count against the cap. I think it's 975 k Charlie. Is that what the standard entry level contract is? I don't know if it's on the head, but that sounds right. I believe it's 950 or 975 for player signs starting in 22. There's two levels of bonuses on entry level contracts. There's a bonuses. There were 250 grand each, and you can have a maximum of four achieving four of these goals for a total of a million dollars and bonuses. You get 20 goals, 35 assists, 60 points, top six in ice time among forwards on the team, minimum 42 games, top three and plus minus among forwards on the team, 0.73 points per game. End of season all rookie team, all star selection, all star MVP. So you can achieve up to four of those things and get 250 grand for it. That would be a million dollars and bonuses. And then there are B level bonuses worth a maximum of 2.5 million for players drafted in 2022 and later. And the full amount of the bonus is awarded is awarded. If any of the following is achieved is achieved and it's forwards top 10 in NHL forward goals, assists points or points per game, minimum 42. So that would be like, oh, he's not just in the colder conversation. He's in the heart conversation. That would be another two and a half million in bonuses. So it can be worth up to three and a half million in total bonuses, but in all likelihood, one million. How is this going to affect the cap, Charlie? Like, is the bonus over thing as big of a deal as we were told it was during the whole cutter gochy mess. It's a it's a deal. I wouldn't say it's a huge deal. It's certainly not going to hold up the contract. The fliers are going to do what they have to do to get them up. They've mentioned up on their contract. And to be clear, like, I know that this is a thing because people are Mitch cough crazy and they want this contract to be done immediately. I report it. I think this was yesterday was either yesterday or the day before I report it. It was essentially, it was, I guess it would have been two days ago because it was Monday was when the termination was officially announced by. By his KHL club, and then everybody's like, when's he going to sign the ELC? When's he going to sign the ELC? My understanding is that the fliers, number one, he's going to be signed. He would not terminate the contract. It wasn't going to be signed. So, like, don't worry. They're signing my image call to an entry level contract. My understanding is that the fliers and my image culture representation now CAA, one of the biggest agencies is not the biggest agency in in hockey. They're actually outside of hockey too, but we're talking about hockey right now. Both sides essentially to figure out if they're even allowed to sign him before July 1 because of the rush element because of things like that, and they might be, they might be allowed to. But right now, the fliers are basically like, let's make sure we don't mess anything up. There's no rush. He wants to be on the team. We want him on the team. He's a major part of our future. My guess is they probably already worked through all these bonuses because they knew in advance this was coming. Mitch Offit picked his representation long before he actually terminated the deal. So, I am not in any way, shape, or form concerned. I just said, and I reported this, don't be shocked if it takes until like next week for this thing to actually be signed. Don't worry. It's going to happen. It's not going to kill us to wait an extra four or five days. It could. It could. You don't know that it won't. You can't say that. You can't say that with 100% certainty. Since you just mentioned they're waiting on clarification from the league on this thing, like just make sure everything's official and good and we don't have a Tony D'Angelo situation where it's like, he's traded. And that's, that's illegal. Obviously, it's not like we're going to be stripped of Matt Vay Mitch Cobb or anything, but they just want clarification to make sure there's no fuck ups. It's June 27th. They need clarification on Carter Hart still. Like, has there been any. They sure do. I have no nothing on that. I've heard nothing about it. And yeah, they do. They need some sort of clarification. Look, everybody's now in the same city, though all the league officials, Gary Batman, everybody in the league front office built daily, and then all the teams. I would have to assume that at some point over the next couple of days, there will be some sort of clarification given to the flyers about what is going on, what they are allowed to do, what they should do, what they shouldn't do with regards to. I don't know, but my, the last time I checked, which was about last week, it was still, we got no clarification. So my guess is that we will learn something about, like, whether there's going to be a reserve list, whether all these things are just going to be allowed to do wherever the hell they want. If, if the whole thing is, well, we're going to be issuing the qualifying offers and then the league is going to put them on the same list. They were on last season where they didn't count against the cap. I don't know. I don't even know if the teams though. Yeah. But my assumption is that we're going to find out over the next couple of days. All right. And in one of our super chats here from Rory. He let us know that Matthew Mitch Cobb, Matthew Mitch Cobb reposts the flyers post during the pod. And it's, it's Danny Brier announcing him as the pick during today. So that's, that's good stuff. And we're, we're stalking his Instagram. It's another workout video today and a flyer shirt. The workout, I saw, I saw, I saw, I think it was you respond. Was that like that. Yeah. So that's good. Feeding that wolf. So it's, I can't. He's going to sign guys. Don't worry. I just can't wait for this dude to be playing hot. I need October, just so we can stop doing this. If we had to do this for another two years. That would have been like, aneurysm induced. No, we've been given a gift. If we have to stalk his Instagram account for like clues for another two years. Thank God. This contract got to me. It's a flyer shirt, succeeding as a rookie is far less important than him just coming over and ending this for me. Yes, I am so glad we don't have to be a flyer in a couple of days. It's like, Oh my God, his Instagram. Did you see it? I am, I am happy that that is over before we move on. There's so many super. I know we, this is all super chats now. I just have to like get stuff out of the way while I can. But you're going to want to hear this. Yes. Look at those glass. You're going to want to hear. I hate taking my hand and then do it. Now you're doing good. You're good. 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So head to Shadyrays.com. This code PHLY for 35% off polarized sunglasses. All right, let's knock out some more of these super chats. People, thank you so much for writing today's show. I'm really appreciate it from Dylan Phillips. He says, looking at the Skinner buyout. Doesn't this worry you about a TK extension? I just feel as though it would be better to move him for assets for future with Matt Vamishkov. That's the thing is like Skinner had after that contract was bad. It was bad. And then he finally kind of bounced back. And now it's just like, well, we got other dudes to pay, man. Thanks. And honestly, it works out for him because he's coming off a good year and he can go sign another contract. But I connect me. Has it had those wild dips yet? No, he did have a few bad years, but I are down years compared to what, but I can only judge his production off of what he's done. Now we had a question yesterday in the mailbag that was like, I think he's on the Morshan track is going to become a hundred point player. And I know Charlie wants to pro rate and be like, when you say he's never had a 70 point season, the points per game. It's kind of disingenuous. But to say you think he could get to a hundred when he's never hit 70 is insane to me. I like the optimism. That's I said, I'm jealous of your optimism. But like, I don't think the, I don't think a TK extension is going to age that poorly. I just think it's too much money for a guy you're hoping is your second line right wing. Right. That's the problem. I'm not worried at any point about Travis Connectney being bad. Like he's going to be good for the length of the contract. Will he be this good for the length of the contract? Probably not at the back end of it. But like you said, I'm just more worried about like, as far as cap management goes, is this the right place to spend all of those dollars? Where do we get the money to pay the great players we don't have yet? If it were, you know, some fewer dollars, it would be fine. I do think like when I see the rumors at like, oh, maybe it's going to, I think it's going to come in, you know, six years, nine and a half. I think when Danny gets it done for like 8.7, it's like, oh, a victory. Yeah. Maybe that's what happens. What if all the hockey have them at 8.8? I think that sounds about right. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, that sounds right. I mean, one thing I'll say about this, I do think they're like to answer your question, Dylan. I do think there's something to this comparison, but it's more conceptual than Apple's that. It's like, the reason why the connectivity extension is concerning and is worrying is because he's not a superstar level player. And generally speaking, when teams sign very good players, but not superstars to eight-year contracts, especially once they go through their 30s, they tend not age. Well, that is this Jeff Skinner contract. Obviously, didn't age. However, Travis Connect me is a significantly more well-rounded player than Jeff Skinner ever was. Jeff Skinner was always viewed as a finesse goal scorer who puts up numbers, but drives coaches and sing. That's always been the way he's viewed. And Connect me is a much shippier player. He brings much more physicality to the table, much more energy to the table, like Skinner, you would always hear like, well, when he's not scoring, what does he do? What drives Connect me is a scorer. He's still doing a lot of stuff. He's still killing penalties. He's still staring up shit after whistles. He's still playing physical along the boards. So I don't think Skinner is a great comparable for Connect me as a player, but I do get the comparison of Skinner was one of these really good, but not elite players who they gave an eight-year contract to and then very quickly regretted it. I get that comparison. I know this is a tough comparison to make. They're in different situations, Casey Middlestad is younger, but he's a center on a championship caliber team. Production isn't that far off from Connect me. The idea that he's going to get like three or four million less than TK is kind of crazy to me, especially on a much shorter term. I just don't see it as totally worth it, but it's going to happen. Like I said yesterday, I don't think Danny Breyer should be fired over this. Man, it just does not seem like the best allocation of resources. It doesn't, but it is what it is at this point. Who's next? After Dylan, we have AOB says, "Happy draft, Eve, y'all. I heard--" Al Morgani, I'm going. Al Morgani predict that Mishkob will end up being a center. Do you see any reasonable chance of that happening? Interesting. I remember when they asked, I think they as Danny this, like in the beginning of last season because he was playing, or at least was working there in the KHL pre-season and was like, "Oh, he's a pre-season." Yeah, they're going to try him out at center, and it was like, "Yeah, we maybe cutter can be a center. We don't see that with Matt Faye. That's just a scoffing. They're trying this." Yeah, what I'll say is that Al is one of the people who I really respect in terms of his hockey knowledge. He's a really good dude, but he also knows hockey. And if Al Morgani thinks he can be a center, that's not something that I'm just going to dismiss out of him, because Al knows his shit. What I can tell you is that in all of my conversations with people with the fliers, they have told me they view him as a win. Now, that doesn't mean that he can't become a center at some point down the road. And if Al Morgani watches him, he sees a future center. I'm not going to dismiss that out of the hand, because he's a good hockey. But I can tell you, the fliers from the start have thought to themselves and said to themselves internally, "He plays like a win. He's going to be a win." I actually think what I just said I read in your interview with Brent Flair. That might be where I heard it. I can't remember, but it was someone in the organization being like, "Nah, we see him as a win." I will say, I think I can see what Al sees. Yeah, he probably won't be the most defensively responsible kind of center down low in the offensive zone. But I can see on the breakout, wanting him to be the one swooping low to take the outlet pass to take the breakout pass from the defenseman, I can see just wanting him to be the guy with the puck on his stick a lot of the time, making the decisions, playing that point guard role, being some combination of a Breair/Jeru center where it's like, "Yeah, maybe not the most traditional in this position, but certain skills kind of line up where you want him there." I like when Charlie just nods. Me too. It would be cool if he's a center. It would solve a lot of problems. But probably not. Maybe, but probably not. All right, we have another one now. They just keep, everyone's show needs to leave here. How much money have we made on this show? $700,000. I'm telling Vince, these better cover my drink set at the Mischa Palooza on Friday at Chiggy's Impeets. For another one from Linden 49, Seneca with Michkov and Frost would be a nice line. I think you have thoughts on Seneca, and I don't remember what they are, Charlie. I like Seneca. I will say that he is my least favorite of the top tier. I get the appeal, and I do think he is in my blue chip tier. He is very much in that tier. I think the upside is gray. I love the puck skills. I am always going to be skeptical of guys who in the first half of their draft season just aren't that good, and then it's like, "Oh, they turned it on. Now they're gray." And it's like, "Okay, maybe they've gotten better, or maybe they just got it a really well-timed hot streak. That is a concern for me." Number one, I don't see a guy who's going to be very good defensively. Number two, I just think there's risk there. I think you are dreaming on what he can be if he, essentially, before he had this big Grossberg because he had a four or five inch Grossberg during his draft year going into his draft year. And the narrative around him is that Seneca, in the second half and into the playoffs, was learning how to play to his new size. And before he had the Grossberg, he was a small energy, physical type of high motor guy. And the theory is, well, if he adds the motor back in, but now in a six foot three frame, he's going to be an absolute monster, and that's possible. But again, you're projected. I haven't seen it. You're hoping you don't know. Also, and this is a reasonable critique that I've heard a lot of people I respect throw out about him, Seneca's production very much dovetails, like the increase in production, very much dovetails with him playing with Caitlin Richie, who was a first round paper character for Colorado last year. I think there is a little bit of worry that maybe he's a bit of that his surge was a bit of a product of Richie, who I've always thought very highly I thought he slipped you far last year. I like Seneca. I don't love him to the degree. 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From Philly Fly, 28, 48, did slash does Mishka have coming over change plans for the draft. They have that idea for what it takes to get the seventh. Is that still an option? No, no, it does not does not change a damn thing. They are still looking for high in talent. They are still looking to address their center hall. Regardless of whether they had, regardless of whether Bitch Hough came over this year or next year or the following year, that was always going to be what they were. Not with the flyers. What do we have? Some sort of breaking news. So the savers have acquired the 14th and the 42nd overall pick from San Jose in exchange for 11. Oh, so San Jose is now moving to 11. Okay. Very interesting. Interesting. Good for them. All right. That is so so that is interesting to me because I had the general consensus is that at least and maybe this changes now they're up to 11 general consensus is that San Jose was likely to take a defense. So, perhaps they look at this as a way to guarantee that they get, you know, a Parek, a Yakum Chuck, something like that. I don't know if they would take because they're obviously a celebration one. Yeah. And they had, they took Will Smith last year. I, I don't think this hurts. For example, I don't think this hurts the flyers chances of getting Berkeley cat because I skeptical, I am skeptical that they would take that the sharks at 11 would take that and after getting celebrating Will Smith, like that just strikes me as a little bit. It'll be awesome. It'll be awesome that the sharks are going to be better than the ducks faster. I'm still I'm still wishing curses on William. And now that they're wearing orange. This is just, it's really out of control. Yeah. All right. Next super chat. Where are we from Gary B. Could we get a three round pick for a third round pick for us? You got one for Zach. Ronaldo. So why can't you get one for us? It's still maybe the greatest trade in flyers history. Dude, I really feel like you could sell Risto to several teams that played in the playoffs this season who had a little bit of trouble on the back end. You need that big. You need to play off. You need a big dude. You need to play off Risto. What did it take to get him? Was it a first third and Hague? Is that, is that what it was? I think it was because he was. No, I think it was. Imagine giving that up, giving him the big contract. And then it's like, we're hoping to get a third. Like God damn it. I think you got. Damn it. Chuck. Not you, Charlie. You guys. All right. I would hope they could get a third rounder. I don't know. All right. From Adam. I'm skeptical. But it was it was a first, a second rounder in Robert Hague. Oh my God. A second and Hague. And we can't get a third. Not even Hague in a third. All right. All right. From Adam S. Now, can they get him on US soil, then Visa, then ELC? I won't feel comfortable until he is here. Thanks, guys. Then US soil before he gets here. I was listening to Martinez the other day, though, and I think you said this before as well, Charlie. Like, you can come to development camp without a visa. Like, Ivan Fidotov did it in like 2015. I don't know how things have changed. Like, yeah, it might work out now. Yeah. But I don't. It just seems like it's pretty easy to prove. Like, he does he need a contract to get a visa. So it's like, hey, he has a job. No, because like, well, he needs to cut. He needs a contract to get a work visa. He doesn't need a contract to get a travel. He's a no. Yeah. All right. Get a travel die hard for life. Thank you for being a die hard Adam. From Matthew Harris. So what if they surprise us all and take Iserman? That would be the. Oh, hell yeah. They did the thing. Like, there's other guys probably ahead of him that hopefully that's like the, like, emergency option. Like, okay, none of the defense been really fell or they couldn't get up to get a defense when if they were really targeting him one. Berkeley, Caten goes before 12. Maybe. Hellenius is there. Maybe he isn't, but they just go, fuck it. Colis, I mean, we're taking the goal score. Like, is that kind of how you're feeling about how it could fall, Charlie? Um, I would be shocked if they take call Iserman just because I get the sense that, like, I've gotten the sense for two months. He's fallen. If they took call Iserman, I wouldn't hate it. Call Iserman. And I, I kind of feel like I'm, I'm going on a limb here. He's in my, he's still in my blue chip tier. Like, for me, it is from two to 14. There's a tier of guys that I immediately would consider to be. Blue chip, great prospects and call Iserman is still in that tier for me. So for me, I'd be fine with it taking call Iserman. I do not get the sense that is the way the, a lot of teams view of them. I think he might slip to something like 17 or 18. I would be surprised if the flyers take him, but he's in my draft primer. Again, if you're a die art, check that out. I released this morning. If you're not, it has everything you need to know about the flyers draft heading into tomorrow. But I included call Iserman is an option at 12. And I said, look, like he doesn't feel an organizational need really because he's not a center. He's a pure winger. But they did lose their biggest sniper prospect and counter go to a and you could make a case that call Iserman fills that spot. I wouldn't hate it. He's not one of my top choices, like one of my preferred options at 12. But if they took call Iserman, I would not criticize him. I think he's a really good prospect. All right. This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all got back into your Sunday routines, but they could be even better with NFL Sunday ticket in YouTube TV. You get the most live NFL games all in one place every game every Sunday. And you can even watch up to four different games at once with multi view, one of my favorite inventions of this decade. It's exactly what you need to catch all the action. Make your Sundays more magical. And also, YouTube TV is great. I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com/bs device and content restrictions apply local and national games on YouTube TV and a false Sunday ticket for out of market games excludes digital only games. All right. Let's go to JR 215. What does the ideal one see from Mitch Cobb look like? He's probably got like brown hair. He's tall. I would like a good player. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of ways to go. I would like a distributor that plays some fairly solid defense. Yeah. I think my dream would be, I'd like a center with good size who can play physical and do some of the physical things that Mitch Cobb does not do, but also is a highly skilled passer. I think that would be my dream where I'd like a center that can make up with the fact that Mitch Cobb is a little small and can do all those physical things, but also has the vision and the play making ability to feed Mitch Cobb in goal scoring situations. I just got like obviously this isn't the final solution, but I'm just thinking of like Morgan Frost's saucy little passes that he likes to make right to Mitch Cobb. That's going to be fun to watch someone. I do think like the first half of Morgan Frost season could have been a lot different if like Owen Tippett and Tyson Forrester scored at the rate that they were supposed to. Yeah, he's fair point. Very good at passing the book. All right. This last one is after K Red, we're done. If you have more super chatting tomorrow. It's 211. Charlie's got places to be. Kelly's in the middle of a meeting right now from K Red. Favorite breakfast sandwich, meats, bacon, sausage, etc. Pork roll. Yeah, sandwich is 100% pork roll for me. I will make one exception though because I think the greatest breakfast sandwich in the world is the McGriddle no egg just sausage and cheese. I love McDonald's sausage patties with the McGriddle outstanding but any other breakfast sandwich give me the pork roll. Chuck, what you got. I mean, I think my answer is probably sausage. However, and I'll give you a little little tidbit about Charlie O'Connor's life. I don't eat breakfast. So I don't eat breakfast either but I will have a breakfast sandwich round about 3, 4pm. Like I'll eat a breakfast sandwich at any time in the day. At Wawa, they do the breakfast time. It's like one slice of pork roll with the egg. But then around lunch, it's like no egg, three slices of pork roll. Oh, hell yeah. Hook me up with that. And that's usually the time I'm awake. And I mean, I guess I'll say that like, I think I probably like the taste of bacon more than sausage but sausage doesn't make me hate myself 30 minutes later. So I'll go with sausage. Oh, Charles, I have been known to grab a from heritage's Scrapple sandwich from time to time. Scrapple fucks and I won't hear a single bad word about it. I love me some Scrapple. But I do like it prepared a certain way. The best way to do is at home or go to Angelo's in class, bro. All right. That is it. That's the show. Thank you for all your super chats. You have hopefully funded my bar tab tomorrow at the draft party. Make sure you come on out to the draft party. It's tomorrow. It's Friday starting at 6 p.m. South Philly, chickies and pizza. Right down on Packer F. Most of South Philly is going to be in the sports complex. You're not going to want to use this. We're going to have also my guy Kelly, these door prizes, the raffle every. This stuff is dope. Yesterday I got a like a nice little 4th of July cooler package situation from our friends at clear rum. Oh my God. Another another thing. There's so many door prizes. Everyone's going to get a ticket to win. And then if you want to buy more tickets, you can buy more tickets. The proceeds will go to Snyder like they always do. But it's going to be awesome. It's going to be a really good job. If if you are going, please RSVP on the all PHL Y.com website because that makes us look good. It does. Yeah. They just like to get a head count and the Sixers got a really good head count. Oh no, we got to be the sixth. So we want to we kind of want to wrap that ramp that up like I told everyone the other day. Everyone RSVP. I don't think JP is going to be at the door with like a clipboard and velvet ropes denying people if you didn't RSVP. Well, no, we like to get a head count. It just makes everything easier for everyone. And it makes me Charlie look good. That's important. So that's really the most important thing. But come on out. Vince has told me there might be a Mishka of Jersey. I heard things. There's going to be opening night ticket. That's right. In the club box opening night ticket with me because I'm taking one of the demanding one of the tickets for the show. You get to go to the game and go with Broad Street. I'm just that's two prizes. And I actually don't know if that's what's going to happen. But no, the prizes are going to be freaking phenomenal. The raffle, the live show, everything. Hopefully. Do we have Charlie's cardboard cutout? Somebody's got to have it. Someone's got to have it in your house. I'll go get it. It is not at my house. It potentially could make it appearance. I can I can try to pull some shirts. Hell yes. Okay. It's somewhere. This is fun. So maybe you can get a picture with Charlie's cardboard cutout. But the real gritty is going to be there. It's going to be an awesome time. There's absolutely no reason not to come to South Philly chickies on Friday and hang out with us for Misha Palooza and the Flyers draft. All right. That's it. Follow us here on YouTube. You know the drill Twitter at PHL. 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