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Mike Shildt On Dylan Cease's No-Hitter!

Padres manager Mike Shildt joined Ben & Woods on Friday morning for The Manager's Report! Listen here as Mike reflects on a historic day yesterday with Dylan Cease throwing a no-hitter, all of the conversations and decisions that went into allowing Cease to attempt to get the no-no, and MUCH more!

Duration:: 21m
Broadcast on:: 26 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast ad. - It's the most anticipated WNBA season in history. - And you know what that means. - Court is back in session. - Welcome to Queens of the Court and Odyssey Original Podcast. - I'm your girl, Cheryl Swoop. - And I'm Jordan Robinson. All WNBA season long will be bringing you interviews with star athletes, analysis on your favorite teams. - And lots of hot tape. - Order, order in the court. Follow and listen to Queens of the Court on the Free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcast. - It is time for our manager's report. It is brought to you by San Diego County Credit Union. It's not Big Bank banking. It's better and joining us from Baltimore, Maryland, where the Padres begin the final three-game series of their road trip later today. The skipper of the San Diego Padres, Mike Schilt. Mike, good morning to you. - Good morning, gentlemen. How you doing? - We're good. That was a lot of fun yesterday. And before we get into to Dylan Cece's amazing performance and the team behind them, fantastic, I heard you say after the game, and this stunned me, in all your years of baseball, and you know, you're what kind of, they call a lifer. You've been managing in the minors and the big leagues for what, two decades. You've never had a team, your team, throw a no-hitter until yesterday. That's incredible. - It's pretty incredible. But on the other side of it, unfortunately, but a lot of years in the game, different levels clearly, and yesterday was the first game closed a ton of times, but yesterday was a special achievement for Dylan, and I was privileged to be a part of it. - It was incredible. I missed the last two innings skip, and I had to go back and watch them. I knew that he had gotten it. I knew that he had it. It was all over Twitter. Everybody knew it had already been done. I went back and watched the last inning. That first day, B, had me nauseous. I can't even imagine what you were going through in that first A, B of the ninth inning. - Yeah, I mean, at that point, we're in, but we got to be mindful of the workload, which I'm sure we'll get to later, but man, Vargas is a tough and bad. I know Vargas, the kid that took a bat and it starts a ninth since Ricky Ball. So he's been a basketball guy, tough and bad, and a good competitor, and he knew he's going to put together a good bat. He did. He threw it together really long and bad on him, and then Dylan made an after pitch to get him to kind of check swing and I grabbed all the bogey, so I mean, you know, pretty big boy, it was over. - Obviously, we've seen some really good stretches from Dylan Seuss this season, but I don't think it can be repeated enough. The last three starts. I mean, historic, historic. What are you seeing? I mean, two hits in 22 innings. That's unheard of. Mike, what are you seeing from Dylan Seuss? I mean, just anything different. Obviously, he's always got good stuff. What's different about these last three? - You know, I think it's, I mean, it is historic. It's been pretty special to be able to be a part of and watch and see him do his magic, but you know, he's been super convicted. He's been able to really assert himself and dominate, you know, multiple plus pitches where he wants to go and him at camp. He's had some really clear ideas about how they want to get people out and he's been able to execute with his plus stuff. It's a good recipe for what we've seen. - You know, and you're talking about conviction here. We got a chance, excuse me, to interview Dylan Seuss. Really thoughtful, you know, soft-spoken guy has some interesting interests outside of the game of baseball, loves art, loves disc golf. I mean, he's a, he's a kind of an everyman type guy and a renaissance man, if you will. When you talk about conviction though, how firm was he with you when he said, I want to finish this, how did that convo go? - It was a very healthy conversation and it was very, very convicted. You know, from my seat, you know, you're bordering, you know, three different things really. You know, the ability to have a personal accomplishment which, you know, you want to make sure that these guys have the opportunity to do. Make sure that they're in a position that they're able to perform that day and perform beyond that, the health factor. And then, you know, you want to make sure you're, you're giving your, you're called the chance to win a, you know, the chance to win a ball game. And, you know, from my seat at 94 pitches after the seven, in a vacuum, that wouldn't have been a big deal for me. We'd have checked in on him obviously. We would have gotten the conviction which I'll get to in a little bit more detail in a second, but, you know, it was the hour and 16 minute delay to the start of the game that was clearly abnormal. And if, you know, if he hadn't gotten hot, that wouldn't have been an issue, but he got hot. And then, you know, he actually sat longer 'cause it was a fairly long top of the first for the rain delay and, of course, it came out of where the three run double-bar chimney. But, you know, that was the biggest factor for me and like, okay, let's be smart about this. And man, right when he came off that mound, he was looking like, I'm good to go back. I'm good to go back. I'm like, I don't think so. And I'm good to go back. And, you know, and I needed that conviction from him, you know, to be able to talk through it because, you know, it is his career, it's clearly his moment. But in '94 pitches, it's about okay. Are we gonna be able to get to the end if we're gonna be committed to this? And if, once we determine that he was convicted about it, then we are, you got to go get it, man. Be efficient. You know, the non-pitch eight clearly helped it now started out the long and bad from Vargas. He was convicted and efficient. And what a magnificent performance and he's great a competent, really happy for him. - Talking to Mike Shelton, I heard you say after the game that it's just the second time you've ever let a pitcher talk you into going back in after you had already made the decision the other way. I wasn't surprised when he said the other one was Adam Wainwright. But I want you to speak on leadership there because I know there are some people who would say that, you know, waffling or changing your mind is not the sign of a good leader. I kind of think the opposite, like having the ability to like change your mind and listen to the guys is actually the most important part of leadership. - And how do you kind of view that? - First of all, if you're gonna be in any leadership position you're gonna get criticized either way and you accept that. You know, I personally believe, you know, conviction leadership is clearly a sign of a good leader. But I don't think it's blind conviction. You know, I've got a personal mantra. I'm really comfortable with what I don't know. I'm really convicted with what I do know. And I also am willing to be open minded in situations that I'm convicted about to change my mind if things present themselves. And, you know, in real time in a fairly high, you know, safe situation, you know, I've got a part of my responsibility and that regard is to be, you know, the guy that looks at the big picture of this thing from an organizational perspective, a long-term perspective of the season, the health of a player. And I factor all those things in with my experiences. And, but then I think you're peaceful, which not to be able to have a conversation and listen to people that are participating. And that's really a big part of my leadership style. And, you know, people say, oh, you know, I don't know what people say, what else. I just know it's mostly worked for me. There's nothing that's absolute, otherwise somebody will have the, you know, holy grail of leadership. But, you know, listen to people and get their opinions and trusting them. You know, listening and trusting is, I think two of the biggest things about leadership that especially the listening part. And then you make an informed decision and made an informed decision partner with, with Dylan and the group, you know, Ruben was there and said, all right, fine. We're going to go header to header and we'll give you a shot at it. But, you know, this isn't going to be like this 130 pitch, we're just chasing it kind of situation. And so everybody was on the same page and we went out and he did it. What kind of programs does this school have? How are the test scores? How many kids do a classroom? Homes.com, those, these are all things you ask when you're home shopping as a parent. That's why each listing on homes.com includes extensive reports on local schools, including photos, parent reviews, test scores, student teacher ratio, school rankings and more. The information is from multiple trusted sources and curated by homes.com's dedicated in-house research team. It's also you can make the right decision for your family. Homes.com, we've done your homework. - Nice. - Today's episode is sponsored by Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. Nerd wallets experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights, no financial misinformation allowed. Learn how to save on your summer vacation, find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast app. - This season the W is going to new heights and that means the queens are ready to take it to court and the court. Welcome to Queens of the Court and Odyssey Original Podcast. - I'm your girl Cheryl Swoops and I'm Jordan Robinson. All WNBA season long, you can count on us to bring you interviews with some of your favorite WNBA stars, analysis of all teams and hot takes you can only find in this courtroom. Listen to Queens of the Court, a WNBA podcast presented by AT&T on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. - It's such an interesting perspective to hear you talk from your seat about that. I was watching last night, Mike, the Pete Rose documentary. It's on max right now. It's a four-parter and certainly very interesting and I know you've probably run across Pete in your life but he was talking about when he was a manager and he said a manager never thinks he put the wrong pinch hitter in and a manager never thinks he put the wrong guy in and I said, man, that's kind of interesting to hear that from Pete Rose when he was managing and of course he was referring to when he was accused of betting on the games that he was managing and he said, a manager will never think he put the wrong guy up to bat or the wrong guy in the pitch. I wanted to hear kind of your perspective on that. - I mean, listen, Pete, you know, historic guy and I don't know what context he was saying that under whether it was to defend anything in another topic but no, I personally look, you know, I mean, I don't have a lot of regrets, you know, I do my homework, I take my shot, you know, you make your best shot at what you have at the moment, you also sometimes have to have an eye towards, you know, a lot of different things. You know, it may not be the most ideal first situation for a player, but that player needs to know you have confidence in him, so in a big picture, that's important for the relationship, that in a vacuum, which most everybody that Micra manages or second guess is what I get, you know, I've learned to accept that that's the case, that, you know, it's just part of the gig, man. It's a lonely seat where, you know, people are going to take their shots and the reality is that a high, high percentage, you know, don't really know all the variables or the thought behind it and, you know, but I can tell you, you know, back to your specific question. I mean, for me and, you know, talking to Hall of Fame managers and other managers and just doing it for, you know, every many years now, 30 years at different levels, man, it's not that you second guess, but you always review, like, did I do that? Well, is that, can I've done that differently? That's just, if you haven't done, if I hadn't done that, I would have never got that rookie ball. No, I never got to rookie ball. I mean, you know, I mean, I've sat there with Tony LaRouche, so I don't think he'd have a problem with me saying this out of school and had, you know, I've had, gosh, countless, unbelievable conversation with this guy, but I'd be after, after games when he was managing in the big leagues and, you know, we would win and he'd be hacked off. And if he thought he missed something, and he's like, you know, and he's right about this, just, well, take it through how you want to take it, but he's like, you know, I can get called out in the media with a decision that I know I nailed and it didn't work out. And that's completely right. And he was like, and I, you know, same way. You don't lose any sleep over that. You know, it's like a little bit of like, okay, see, we didn't really understand the contact of it, don't really know what I'm dealing with, that's for the gig, but I've also sat with him, and I've done this to myself, too, where you feel like you, you know, you want to gain, or, you know, and you feel like you missed something, that eats at you. You know, and I've been at dinner with him. He's like, man, in the third, you know, this, this, this, this is more back in the double switch game. Sure. And, you know, you really had, you know, shoot, I don't know how many students you have to make every day. There's less now, but there's still a lot, a lot of freaking decisions that get made that have a lot of different snowballs to them, one way or the other. And, you know, if you missed something, or if you missed something, it's like, man, you beat yourself up over that, that no one really even paid attention to, or nobody even asked you about him, you know, after the gig. And so, the thing about it is a high percentage decision you make, you know, and they worked out, they were like, yeah, it worked out, you know, it worked out, and so, anyway. - I appreciate that answer too, because I think a lot of times you, I do this as a media person, I go, I don't, I mean, I don't care, we won the game. You know, like, I'm not going to complain about somebody taking a no for when we, when we won a game and didn't see through a no hitter, you know, let's, let's be happy in the moment. But yeah, I think a good leader, somebody that's reflective, will go back and say, probably could have done that a little bit better. - I appreciate that answer. - Yeah, I mean, I mean, I like anybody that's done anything, at any high level, to get there and to stay there is not always reflected with a continual growth mindset, that also has a little bit of fixed mindset that says, okay, and this is your conviction, like I know this works, I've done it, you know, it doesn't always work, it's our best, if you really, what you're really accomplishing every night with every decision is best-case scenario. You know, chances are proposition is what this game's about. And you're creating as many positive chances from you as possible relative to the situation you have at hand. And there's levels of those variables that, you know, take place over the course of the three to five hours to board a game that, you know, nobody lives. And then, oh, by the way, you have humans in high-stimulated situations. - Yeah. - And, you know, I was talking to A.G. Ellis about this, you know, and it gets really easy to look and sit down like, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? Why are you doing that? You go and do it every single day in front of, you know, the world, basically, 'cause every game's televised, there are 45,000 people in real time, every day, in highly-stimulated environments with guys throwing 98 to 100. And, you know, we can have a tendency to minimize, why can't he just get that guy over? Why can't he just do this? Why can't he just do that? Well, it's far easier said than done. - Indeed. - Unless you've done it or seen it or managed it, you know, but again, you know, we also recognize, you know, we do work in the public setting and there are things that come with it. You know, we can't alibi, we can just share our thoughts. - I know the only game you care about now is today's game, try to get the next one. Obviously, the bullpen is pretty fresh. It was reported, and you don't have to confirm or deny that Adam Major was gonna come back and start this game, but imagine at least you feel good about where your team is heading into another tough series against a really good team this weekend. - Yeah, it was playing well. And, you know, we're doing the things that require to win games, you know, we're getting the start of pitching from all the guys, it's been tremendous. Our defense has been clean, you know, we've been effective and run the bases intelligently to offensive, with most of the past, competition's been really good, played some good clubs, got another club that we're gonna play today in Baltimore and over the weekend that, you know, we'll come out and we're gonna get our best shot. And we'll be ready to go. - And you know what next Friday will be when we talk to you. Talk about everything AJ has done this week 'cause he's always one of the most active GMs around the trade deadline. So imagine there's gonna be at least a couple of moves before we talk to you again. So good luck, good luck against the Dodgers when you get home, and we'll talk to you next Friday. - All right, we'll see you guys. - Appreciate it. - There he is, Mike Shilt, manager of the San Diego Ponderaser Managers report brought to you by San Diego County Credit Union. It's not big bank banking, it is better. - What kind of programs does this school have? How are the test scores? How many kids do a classroom? Homes.com, those, these are all things you ask when you're home shopping as a parent. That's why each listing on homes.com includes extensive reports on local schools, including photos, parent reviews, test scores, student teacher ratio, school rankings, and more. 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