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He's the executive producer. Hi, Paul. Good morning. I'm Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor. What are we doing? Good morning. Why are we whispering? Just didn't have the same zest this morning when I cracked the mic. Well, you're the one who's going on vacation in four hours. You should have played plenty of zest. I couldn't even sleep last night, I was so excited. (laughing) I'm playing in bed like, ooh, tomorrow night I get to see one of my favorite bands. I'm so excited, I'm gonna have some bourbon and God only knows. God only knows what kind of trouble I'm gonna get into tonight. And I cannot wait. Cannot wait for it. No, I, good morning, everybody. Thank you. Get our heads right. Today is cheer up the lonely day. That's what we're gonna try to do. The San Diego Padres do make you feel a little bit lonely from time to time. They do, you feel like you're alone when you're watching that team flounder. I have a problem with that, do you? Yeah, I feel like cheer up the lonely day implies that the lonely more. Need cheering up. Need of help or a need of cheering up. It's okay to be lonely. You don't always need companionship all the time. You can be very comfortable by yourself. You know, the great Paul Stanley had a song and it was called "Who Wants To Be Lonely." Meaning nobody wants to be lonely, who wants to be with you tonight. Yeah, that's, I don't know, I think, I think, it's just cheer up the lonely. It doesn't mean that they have a problem like, "Hey, let me just make you feel better." It makes it certainly sound like if you're lonely, you're sad. I'm going to look up the, uh, Brandon says he needs a lot of cheering up. Yeah, man, you know, that's kind of our job in the morning to, to, and people get mad at us sometimes for doing that. Like when we open the show after what a four game losing streak, right? And we're like, "Hey, what's up, guys? Everybody good?" Like, "Dude, you guys don't care." Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, "Nah, I'm, uh, I do care, but it can't consume you." You know, it really can't, it can't wear you out. Are you looking it up right now? I am not looking it up right now. So I don't know where that, uh, the origin was from there. It's very hard not to spin you out. I was trying to text Pauline because, uh, the Odyssey app is not playing our show. It's playing the network show right now, so we need to work some technical issues out apparently. We've been having issues. Yeah, we've had some technical issues this morning in the studio. I think I just reset something. Hopefully, uh, hopefully it's working for everybody right now. Yep. There we go. All right. Yeah, you guys are hearing Maggie and Pirloff instead of, uh, well, if you're, you're not hearing you say that, if you're actually hearing Maggie and Pirloff, they were hearing Maggie and Pirloff. All right. Well, listen, and this has not been our best open of all time. It's fine. It happens. We're going to have, uh, some clunkers from time to time. Thing about us though, unlike the Padres, we will not have four bad shows in a row. That is a promise. We really never have four. No. Never. Maybe two. Like all the guys trying. You two as are in one. Two as like on the maximum. Like our literal record, not, that's how we feel. There are people out there listening, like my buddy, Corinne Holyo, who's just been wearing me out on Twitter. He wants me to block him so bad. He. Especially, um, not another exactly how fun it will be. What the hell is going on? Still playing the, is it really? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Well, if you're watching on YouTube, I guess good morning to you guys. So if they're listening on the radio, what are they hearing? They should be hearing us. Man, that sucks. All right. Well, listen, we got, we got a plow ahead. We got a forge ahead. People get mad at us though, if we come in and have a good time after a four game skid, you know, and I just listen in the, uh, in the mornings, it's kind of our responsibility to get you guys off on the right foot. That's really what the job is. It took me a long time to realize that like it's my duty to send you to work in a good mood or it may be calm down a little bit or get you fired up. You know, that's, those are the, the kind of three places we operate from here on Ben and Wood. So that's what we're going to try to do today. I, I wish I had, I wish I had better news for you. If you're a San Diego Padres fan, it's been a rough week, uh, certainly. And I, I do feel bad. I did feel bad driving in this morning. I thought, man, I'm leaving today at 10 and Ben's got to do a round table on this team. And then Ben's got to work tomorrow with no game tonight, Benny and Polly, and then you guys got Mike Schilt on tomorrow. I snicker because I would hate to be put in the same position. Is there anything I can do? Is there anything to, I can do to make it better for other, not, I'm not in a bad place. Maybe you're not, not in a great place or the fan base isn't in a great place, but I'm trying to just keep perspective on everything. The potters are exactly where they've been all season long. Right around 500 right in the top three in the wildcard race, really haven't separated themselves from anyone or been, you know, passed by anyone other than like the Philadelphia Phillies. There's really no team that I can say for sure is better or worse than the Padres in the National League. You know, obviously the record of the Rockies and the Marlins, they're out of it. But I would say every team between the Phillies and the Rockies are essentially throw a hat over them. And you put them in a four game or five game series or a seven game series, it's tossed up in my mind. It could be Padres Dodgers, it could be Dodgers Cubs, it could be Brewers against the Reds, it could be any of the teams of pirates against the Giants. Put them all in a hat right now and it's basically any of those teams could beat any of those teams. The Phillies are the one team that look like they're a little bit better than everybody else. Obviously the Dodgers are in a more comfortable position, but they're, I mean, they haven't done anything that makes me think that they're, you know, better or worse than anyone and just in the Padres could lose to any of those teams in any series at any given time. What I see right yesterday, the Dodgers in their last 43 games are 22 and 21. That sounds about right. They're just kind of mediocre like everybody else. That's as mid. That's as mid as it gets. That's absolutely as mid as it gets. So all right. I guess there's a little bit of perspective for you, but you know, the difference in some of those teams that you mentioned in our team, a lot of those teams have massive reinforcements coming. Massive reinforcement. Has do the Padres. I mean, you're a sweet, sweet. Standard Bogar. It's for day to test East Junior. Got a good report on Joe Musgrove yesterday is as good as you're going to get in the national league in terms of potential reinforcements. You just listed three guys, none of whom know how to throw a fastball. None of them know how to throw a sweeper. None of them. Joe was growing up. Joe could, they're saying he may not come back at all this year. Mike show yesterday was extremely positive about Joe's prospects are coming back. Mate, Mike show was positive. Are you joking? He didn't say he's done. He's done. Yeah. Send him out the pasture. No, of course, a lot of these teams you're talking about, they got them out yesterday. It's got to be a positive step. They got a lot of reinforcements coming. And again, we don't know what Tati's Zander played last night in Elson or had a decent game. But yeah, I don't know. I'm excited about Zander coming back. I am. The lengthens the bench, you know, certainly gives you another option or two here there. But yeah, it sucks, man. Yesterday was a, was a really, really rough one for the San Diego Padres. It wasn't as bad as the night before. We were texting about that yesterday. The day before was terrible yesterday you're like a little bit of a break here and there and the game's different. Obviously you, you know, you don't want to get, get hit in the five hole. If you're Louisa rise yesterday and it cost us a run. You know, which is a bar. I mean, it was a two nothing game. Two nothing. And they had bases loaded. I think a couple that's in the second had multiple runners on the eighth and the ninth. Yep. Maybe one other opportunity somewhere. Yeah. Plenty of scoring opportunities. And yet really until ninth, eighth or ninth when Merrill was up, I think with two on and I thought maybe he can hit one here up until that point though, even with bases loaded in a two run game. I'm like, I just don't feel like they got it in them today. They just didn't feel like that was going to go our way. I felt the magic was coming that night. I actually did say the magic was coming yesterday, which is nice to be in Pauli's cynical head because being in our head, I'd be like, ooh, I'm going to get it. I felt it a little bit. I mean, he walked. I'm like, here we go. The Mariners literally, they had like no scoring opportunities. The one that was given to them by the Padres in the second inning and then they had that two, two out singles that kind of just happened all of a sudden. Yeah. King. Otherwise, King was dominant. I mean, the Mariners couldn't do anything yesterday against the Padres. They had some chances, that was just a baseball game, didn't work out. Yeah, it's been a rough week, but we've seen about six of these over the course of the season already and they've always just bounced back and come back and started playing well again after a four or five game skid and off they go again. I mean, I've got the numbers and we can get into them in the show today of what the Padres have done just in their last basically, you know, six weeks of back and forth up and down, hitting the and I know he hates that phrase, but they are riding a roller coaster this year. There's no doubt. I mean, there's just no other way you can look at it. None whatsoever. I know that you don't like the phrase, but that's exactly what this team is, man. It's a roller coaster. It's a roller coaster for the fans. It's a roller coaster. The players just, they look at it as we're going to clock in to work every single day. Nothing changes, routine changes at the end of the day, you hope the results are where you want them, right? Like they don't, they don't, they probably don't look at it like that. They're not living and dying with each win and each loss, but to watch the team, to cover the team and really be invested in the team, I don't know how you could look at it as anything else. I really don't. It is, it's just up and down and up and down and it, you know, that's something that they're going to have to figure out in the second half, obviously, and I just don't know how you quote, unquote, figure it out. I really don't. I mean, it's got to play better baseball, dude. The offense has disappeared, our boy, uh, Tommy on X, yeah, and I'm assuming he's accurate here. Padres past stretches. Yeah, that's great. May 26th. Go back to May 26th, five and one, oh and five, oh, five and one, oh and five, twelve and three, oh and four. So yes, we're, we're about a day away from the start of another really good stretch. So five, we should be feeling pretty good as Padres fans knowing that another, they're going to lose tomorrow for sure. Yep. And then a great stretch begins on Saturday, so and then they'll start break hits and we'll just carry it right on through to the second half of the season. Fantastic. Yeah, it's been great. It's been really, really fun. But I mean, you can, you can say factually one week ago, Padres have the hottest offense in base. Correct. Absolutely. No doubt. Hotest offense in baseball. This week, looks like they have no idea how to score a run. Same team. One week. How, you know, how do you make sense of it? How do you talk about this team? That's our dilemma that we've been dealing with all season long. Yep. Five, one, oh and five. I'm going to try not to get too high or too low and you know, the next time they go on the run and they win five of six or eight of ten, not going to get overly excited about it either. No, I didn't. I really tried not on the last one knowing it. That magnet back to five hundred is still in effect. It still exists. It's still going to pull them back at some point and ultimately, the San Diego Padres are what we said they were at the beginning of the year. Five hundred. Their team is probably going to play a couple of games above five hundred this season and should be a playoff contender for a wild card spot at the end of the year. Yep. They're exactly what we thought they would be. Maybe not in the way we thought it would happen. I would have, I was expecting more of a, you know, win three, lose two, win one, lose one, win two, lose three and, and that not necessarily win five, lose five, win five out of the six, lose five, win 12 out of 15, lose five. It's been a little more concentrated in terms of the bursts, but ultimately they're right where we thought they would be. Yeah. The big chunks, the chunks is what we're, we're, and they've done it despite massive injuries, you know, they've gotten some unexpectedly good performances from players. And here we are at the all-star break. Would we have not signed up for a couple of games over five hundred at the all-star break? I think we would have. Most of us would have. I think we would have. I think that's a fair way to look at it certainly, you know, this week, notwithstanding. It's, it's yesterday again, one of those games where you're like, especially the night before two just stars aren't doing much, you know, at all, but, you know, Manny not doing much at all. Need him to get going. Certainly. He was going. They were hot. He stopped going. They're not hot. Yeah. It's very, that's always been the case. I'm going to see him today. I'm going to get in his ear a little bit and chew him out a little bit forward if you guys want me to. What's up? What's the problem? My son's going to his camp today, he's playing at the camp. Now, I don't, my guess, what's your guess on how long you'll see Manny Machado at Manny Machado camp? 15 minutes. What time is the camp? Not. She drops him off in like an hour and a half to read registrations, like seven 30 to nine quite eight. So call it nine to noon. Nine to noon. Yeah. I bet he'll be there for an hour. You think an hour? Yeah. Will he be down in the? Yeah. Yeah. He'll be there at the end. I think he puts his name on it. He wants to at least, you know, have some interaction with all the campers. I don't know that he's there right at the start. Yeah. He's not sitting in the table. No. What's your name, little buddy? No, exactly. Fred. All right. Welcome to the camp. Here's your show. What do you know? Here's your shirt. No, I doubt he's doing that. But yeah, it'll be more than just like one five minute meet and greet at the end though. He's got to do a get in there for a little. He's got to do an entrance, right? They have to do. Oh yeah. An answer. Ladies and gentlemen, why didn't they ask me that? They come out and been this hype man. I do it every day here anyway. Be happy to do it. I'm excited for a bow man to get out there and, you know, show him his stuff and but I will go down after the show. That's why I'm actually leaving instead of the round table going down to watch him at camp. And yeah, if you need me to say something to Manny today, I'll say, man, get it going. We need you right on. We need to ride on those show. Maybe that'll be a round table question. What should would say to Manny, please leave me out of the round table. I beg you. Don't even bring my name. All right. Let's let's have some fun today. Geez. Wow. That wasn't a fun segment. Technical difficulties. Technical difficulties. Sad. Those are the worst sports ever. You know what? No, let's happy with that. Let's start over. Start over. When we come back, I want to let's play Barry White. Yeah. Let's actually foreplay it up before we get to our Padres wrap up. Yes. I would love that redoing foreplay when we return after traffic with Kelly Danick Benewoods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97.3, the fan. All right. Welcome, man. Everybody. Ben and Woods, 97.3, the fan. After some technical difficulties, we're back. We're better than ever. I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Rindel, the executive producer. Good morning. Paulie. Good morning. Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor. Morning to you. Good morning, everybody. Great to have you guys. Happy 7/11 day. It's July 11th, which means, of course, 7/11. What do you get? Like free slurpee or something? Usually like free small slurpees, I haven't checked on the promotions. What's your go to? Guilty pleasure. Cherry. Cherry and cola combined together in the slurpee. Do you ever do anything from the roller? The hot, the roller, you know, that usually is for hot dogs, but they have all those other items. I'm terrified of them. Not in years. I mean, I have before. I've had a spicy garlic chicken roller. I've had many a 7/11 hot dog. Korean barbecue takito. Not always barbecue bacon cheeseburger roller. It's like a cheeseburger, but in the form of a hot dog, you know? I always see people in there eating them and I'm like, I'm terrified. I am too. I don't know. Remember one of the chats in there. Takito's are amazing. I might try one then. I like takitos a lot, a lot. I love takitos. But I've tried to, you know, the older you get, you don't, you want to limit your meals at 7/11 as much as you can. Purple calls just chicken tubes. Chicken tubes. Well, I guess I'm always worried. You just don't know how long they've been rolling there. No. So like how long have they been there? I'm reading about today's free Slurpee Day. Yes. 7/11. Free Slurpee Day. You can walk into any 7/11 and get a free, small, Slurpee. No questions asked. No questions asked. I love that part. I love that part. I do too. And then if you are a rewards member on their app, you can get another free Slurpee between tomorrow and the end of the month. Okay. And then today's Slurpees that are the free ones are all coming in a special cup designed by seven-year-old Nolan who beat cancer at age four. Oh, that's so awesome. So I don't know what those look like exactly. That's killer. There's a picture. It wins the 7/11 speakeasy opening app and you can go stay and spend the night for a weekend. I think they have those. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. Now, I want to say, we started the show, you mentioned your, this is your last day of the week. Yeah, my Friday. Then we dove right into Padre's doom and terrible. It was not fun. But I wanted to say, we talked about it pretty in depth yesterday. I think it was our eight o'clock kind of reset. We talked about how you were going to see the same band, three nights in a row, three different locations. Correct. And I'm not, I'm really, I'm not hating on it. I think it's interesting and fascinating. I don't know that I got that in me. I don't know that I would do anything three nights in a row. I don't know that I do either. But I thought about it all day yesterday. You asked me up so bad yesterday when he said to me, it's like going to see the same movie three nights in a row and I went, you stupid, stupid bastard, you've ruined it. Well, when you can look at their past set list and go, they're, they're not deviating from it. I mean, people go to like Padres game three nights in a row, but they're going to be different. Everything. Right. Oh, it's you will never see the same Padres, actually feel like you feel like you do something like you have. But I was thinking about your trip. So you're heading out tonight, you'll be gone all weekend. Yeah. How does that play out at home? I'm like with the misses because you do this often solo vacation woods. I know you guys got a trip like next week. You're going to Hawaii in a few weeks. Yeah. But you do this a couple of times a year. Yeah, where I'll just go see a show on your balls ever, like Hannah never busts my balls until it's the day to come home. The day to come home is when it's like panic has set in, you've been gone. You get your ass home as AFP. So it my two day trip really turns into a one day trip because there's no getting up and leisurely having breakfast on Sunday, taking my buddy, my buddy. Now let's take a noober to the airport. It's fine. He's a big boy, you know, and I get my ass back home, which curtails my Saturday night as well because I can now not go near as hard as I was going, which by the way, probably a good thing. I look, I'm going to be missing my kids. I'll see my kids today. I won't see them tomorrow at all and that will kill me. I'll be ready to get back Sunday for sure. No, she doesn't get here's the thing. She would rather let me go by myself to see a band I love than go see that band I love with me. Does that make sense? Yes. She does not. By the way, now technically you're going with a friend. Yeah. Yeah. It's a buddy's trip. It's technically a buddy's trip and I think everybody, guys and girls need to have a buddy's trip every once in a while where they get away from their significant other, get with a different group of people and hang out for a couple of days. That's normal and healthy, but I've 100% gone up to LA to go see crosses or something solo. I know. I, I, and she's like, go have a fun time. You know, great. I think it's, you got to have a little independence, I think, in your marriage because again, she goes and does these trips and I'm like, go have a ball. I think we both, I think when she leaves, it's easier to parent. Right? Like I think it's easier. Like I haven't, I don't have the hard, I don't have a hard time with my, my two boys. And she, I think has a little bit harder time when I'm gone because I'm like the mean, mean one, you know, like I know what you're saying when you're on your own, you sleep, you're on 24/7. If anything happens with the kids, they get a gap in the middle of the night. You don't have anyone to assist you, but I know what you're saying and that goes. Well, it's also, you don't have to worry about what the other person thinks. Like whatever decision you're making, it's good because it's your decision and you handle the situation. However, you want to handle it when the other person is gone. Yeah. Correct? You what? The dishes will pile and pile and pile and pile. If you want that, you can do that. And then we just wash them all at the end. She thinks I'm saying something out of school. I'm not. She's mad in the chat, but I am, I am, I am, it's absolutely easier. It's easier for me to parent. Like if she goes away, it should also be somewhat easier for her when you're gone? No. Apparently it's not. Hmm. Maybe, maybe some of us should just build different as far as parenting goes. I don't know. It could be. I'm gonna get dead. I'm gonna get dead. I just said I'm gonna get killed. I'm gonna get dead. I'm gonna get deaded by her. Yeah. Listen. She's gonna dead you. She is. She is. She's very mad right now. I mean, again, somebody in the gym possible you will be here tomorrow morning. No. That's your chance. That's your chance. Something in the chat said another soft offensive outing last night. And then right below that, Hannah goes another soft offensive conversation. Offensive conversation. Listen, I mean, I don't think I'm wrong. Many dads have agreed with me. Many, many dads in my circle have said, game this easy, it's a game really this easy. My wife's out of town. Is this this easy? I have no children. So I have no comments. Yeah, there you go. It's easy. It's easier. As you know, you'll get right back to your routine in a couple of days. That's what makes it easier. If it was always like that, things would fall apart completely. I'd be dead. I would be dead. It only works for a short period of time, maybe a 48 hour burst. Yeah. Oh, this is it. Oh, this is it. This is not a three month. Oh, this would be so much better if I could just have a month without help. No, no, no, no. Okay. You're talking about a short 48 hour burst. His mom's got to do three months in jail. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. There's no way I get through it. I fly my parents in the hell. All right. There's no chance. Yeah. What does Hannah go to jail for? What does she want? Assault on me. Just tries to choke me out. Something beats me. You think that would get passed? Punches me in the face. I think she'd be able to clear that with a judge. She probably would. Look, he goes on his radio show and pisses me off. She's really getting mad right now. It's very, really upset. I mean, I think they look inward on this one. Look inward. Ask maybe if it's something that you're doing differently. Look inward on this. But I like when it's just me and the boys sometimes because again, we do feel a little bit less encumbered. Yeah. I know. It's probably not always the case, but probably in my case, your case, our standards are lower and it's easier to meet lower standards. Correct? Yes. Yes. We have lower parenting standards. Next gen breaks as we whine more than women, I don't even think we're whining right now. I think we're just having a conversation. You know, this is a little misogynistic too. I think that's a little, I think that's very misogynistic. How dare you? Next gen breaks. I think men and women whine equally. How about that? Again, they'll different. That's how we do it. I apologize, I guess. I brought this up. I didn't mean it for it to go this way. I was genuinely interested in how that worked out because I mean, I'm going on a bachelor party next month. Hey. I really think I was thinking very long and hard about it. My friend grew up. I go, this has got to be the last one, like for a while. I'm begging you guys to make this for a while. Thanks for the $1,000 bill guys at least. Went to another one in November, got one coming up next month, but like obviously that one, it's a no brainer making it like, yeah, go have fun, go for it. But then like the next trip I go on, I'm sure she'll be there with me, we'll be planning a trip together. Right. And I just was like, huh, what's this a little bit like two or three times a year? I do. I, I, I, I, we both enjoy our independence. And that's fine. I think it's great. I was just, I just was curious. It's, it's a fascinating trip to me. Now she will not, she does not expect me. I don't have to like call a bunch, check in a bunch. We've actually learned that's probably the worst way to do it. Just go have your fun. Let me know you're alive. And then I'll see you when you get home. But when she gets panicked, is that morning of the morning I'm supposed to come home. There are no leisurely. Hey babe, we were going to get a hike in before. Oh no. Get your ass. We were going river rafting today. No, there is no river rafting today. You get your ass in the car and get your ass home. I've got work. I've got this. Are you? I've got this. I've got that. Get home. So Sunday morning, I'll be driving back at probably six 30 in the morning. So it's fine. I can't wait, man. I'm, I'm really looking forward to it. And tonight, if you're out in North Park, we'll be at the observatory, seeing the Afghan Whigs, probably be at seven grand as well. You want to come by and have a, have a drink? I'll buy you a drink. Come on out. Bottom line, get your free Slurpee today on 7/11 death. Yes. That is the point of that. Yes. That's about all we've got now. All right. Let's take your time out. We'll come back. Yes, people. We will get into yesterday's Padres game to nothing lost to the Seattle Mariners. They were swept. They've lost four in a row. We are all feeling it. We know how this works now at this point. It's not nothing new. Padres fans. You've been going through it all season long. Thanks to the highlights and our Padres wrap up coming up next with Ben & Woods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97.3 the fan. Oh, yeah. We've got a Padres roundtable coming up at 10 o'clock this morning, which means, yeah, we've got five hours to talk about this lovely, lovely baseball week we've been having here in San Diego. You and I can, since I won't be on it, we can, you can grill me now, test some of your tests, I will, I will test out some of the questions for sure. I just want to make the point. So last Friday, Padres had one of the most memorable, spectacular wins that come from ahead, come from behind, walk off, Manny Machado, home run on Friday night. That captor on where they had won 12 of 15 games. If you're sitting there on Friday night going, is this a good sign or a bad sign for the San Diego Padres, playing really great baseball, they just had an incredible walkoff win. And do you think this means good or bad things for the Padres going forward? Six games above 500 season high, six games above 500. Are they trending in the right direction or the wrong direction to the moon? You would have said, of course, the exact wrong answer. Yeah. And then the very next night, loading the bases with a chance to win that game had that, had they walked that one off, you win that series. That's the, the tenor and tone of the week is entirely different. We're unable to get the big hit in that one. We're unable to pitch well in that one, really. Yeah. Also. So yeah. They had two bad games. They really did. Sunday and Tuesday were both pretty bad games overall, just didn't do a lot well. Yesterday wasn't one of those. We'll go through it. I don't think yesterday was a bad game. Yesterday was, was a game between two fairly evenly matched teams that you lost. Yeah. That's, you know, the moral victory thing and I'm moral victory, moral victory, the hell out of Saturday night. I left Saturday night's game going, oh man, whoo, this team, they sure do, they sure do grind and fight man and kudos to them. This loss doesn't even feel like a loss. Bounce back tomorrow when it's here, BFD, we'll get at it tomorrow and then to go out and just on Sunday and then to go out and on Tuesday and then to go out and lose yesterday. The moral victory crowd is, I don't think they're going to want to hear that right now and that's, that's okay. I mean, it's the logical way to look at it. Hey, they hit some balls hard yesterday, didn't find holes. They didn't make some plays or that they should have made that cost them rounds. Michael King absolutely pitched his tail off yesterday. There's a lot to be excited about for him, but you can't lose those games when you're starting pitcher, picks you up and gives you exactly what you've been looking for. And again, off of a guy that had a 70-yard rate on the road, man, the guy comes in and he looks like, you know, prime Garrett Cole or Justin Verlander against you. That can't happen. Now, there's no reason why he should have a 70-yard rate on the road. He's a good pitcher. He's an idiot. Yeah, but he does. He does. But that could just be random noise. Oh, he's a good pitcher. I think he's good on the road. Yeah. He's a good pitcher. Why does he pitch good on the road? Yeah. I mean, maybe. Well, you had him on the ropes. You had him on the friggin' ropes, and you had him back to pitching like crap on the road, and you let him off the hook. Let's go through the game. Let's go through the game. We'll have our Padres wrap up coming up right after this check. It's a short one. Traffic on 97-3, the fam. It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. If they lose. Oh. A shame indeed. It's a complete crap. Oh, I did not like that. Here are the lowlights from yesterday's game. Are you f***ing kidding me? Boo. It's the Padres wrap up, presented by Hamul Casino. With thrilling slots and tables and all the best rewards, Hamul Casino has all the fun you're looking for. Hamul Casino. Fun above all else. We'll give it 16 minutes of salt and then we'll, you know, get back on the pump and figure it out. It's not your fault. They go batting left handed swings at the first pitch, grounds it to a rise and it goes in between the wickets into right field. Probably will come in and score and that's full and base big for the Mariners. They take a 1-0 lead here in the second. King delivers. That's a line drive. Basted at a right center field for Haley rounding third on his way. Meryl Skro is cut by a rise, an RBI single for Polanco and the Mariner lead is now 2-0. 2-2 now. Peralta swings. Loops it up the middle. Caught by Crawford. Just onto the outfield grass and the ball game is over. Munoz and the Mariners hold on. They shut the Padres out 2-0 this afternoon and they sweep this two game set. Well, we weren't able to catch the big hit when we needed it. We faced really good pitching. Faced up for level pitching. You know, these guys have good arms, they were through the ball well. It's like Gilbert, like Nelson, commanding in all those pitches, throwing away one or two. I thought their bats were tough. I thought we created some opportunities. You faced good pitching, there's not going to be an abundance of them. And when you do get them, you've got to get that proverbial big hit, we just weren't able to do it today. That's fair. That's fair. Let's be honest. So, when Peralta, if you were watching on television at least, I don't know if it looked different if you were alive in the ballpark. But when the ball left the bats, two run single games time, right? That's the thought everybody had seen it. Yeah. That was a yeah. One of those just quirks of perspective and not knowing exactly how hard a ball is hit off the bat. The trajectory and the angle of which it headed toward the outfield screamed two run single to me at that moment. It did and had that ball been screaming a little bit more. It may have fallen, but listen, man, the weird thing about this week, when you were out on Monday, we had Tim Flannery in and we specifically asked him about the art of coaching third base. And we asked him about Tim Leeper in particular. Now, he knows Tim. He loves Tim. Tim's a great, great dude. And I must have gone over the plays yesterday and the second inning a thousand times in my head. All right. The base hit by runners on first and second with David Peralta up. He hits a soft knock through the right side. Yeah. You've got a slow runner at second. Very slow. A lot of people were saying, oh, man, you've got to send him there based on, you know, who's coming up behind you. And then he didn't. He didn't. He held him there, which by the way, less than, you know, with one out, a decent move. Then he sent him on the Hassan Kim lazy pop fly to center, which Julio Rodriguez played it. Absolutely perfect. Did the full circle around it had full momentum coming in the plate through a one hop strike right to home and he was thrown out at the plate and he go over double play and he just got roasted on Twitter yesterday. I was in, and I was asking Timmy about, you know, when that happens and he said, I would vomit. I would vomit after a game like I did something like that. I would absolutely vomit. You know, it's very convenient for us to blame umpires or third base coaches or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You have to hit. You've got to hit the baseball. You've got to hit the baseball with a 40. Okay. One run, one run is not going to get it done. Yeah. The whole tenor of the game could have changed, but it didn't. You got to pick yourself up. You can't, you can't then go cold for five more innings at the dish. I'm not blaming Tim Leaper at all. It's damned if you do damned if you don't. I would have probably, if I was going to send him on one, it probably would have been the peraltic. I am not the Rodriguez. And in hindsight, that's pretty easy to say that that was probably the better opportunity to send. Now he, you don't know what the next opportunity is going to be. You could have sent him on the single. He gets thrown out at home and everyone loses their mind and it's not even Solano. And then you know, Hassan Kim lines a single to left and they end up not scoring because they sent him, or you can not send Solano on the fly ball to center and Brett Sullivan then just makes it out and you don't score that way either. Just because, just because you made an out at home plate, doesn't necessarily make it the wrong decision. Now, you always in hindsight, you go, well, I would have liked to have tried something else because we know it didn't work the way I did it, but it doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong decision. Because there are no right decisions in baseball, maybe there was no way the Padres were scoring that inning. Perhaps every decision that Tim Lieper could have made in that, in that choice would have been wrong. If there's ever been a, if there's ever been a situation like that where both choices were wrong, I think you found it yesterday. I really do. And again, you know how I am. This isn't, I'm not riding for, I put it on the players and their lack of execution to not win that baseball game against a pitcher that is not pitched well on the road at all. And again, you had him on the ropes and you didn't take advantage again. And then, and your offense is scuffling right now. You got to get it, got to get it together. The break's going to do them well, but we're not on vacation yet. You know, we're not on vacation. They're not on vacation. They got three games left. They got to show some heart and some fight in these last three. But ultimately, like yesterday's game wasn't that different than the rest of the games this season. They put the ball in play, Bryce Miller won strikeout over his six innings. They put the ball in play. They just, they just didn't, you know, a lot of the times the Padres have scored a lot of runs. They don't hit the ball any harder. They just find holes. They string together hits. They have that four run inning. It's not all screaming line drives all over the place. They need bombs. They need the ball to fall in sometimes to put together their rallies. It didn't yesterday. That's a, it's, it's a flaw of the San Diego Padres, but it's a flaw of a lot of teams as well. Michael King was terrific. Strikeout hacked much more dominant than Bryce Miller was much more on the mound, much more dominant than Bryce Miller. Padres though, just didn't take advantage of any of their opportunities. You know, they had more hits, but not the right times. That does happen in baseball sometimes. I, you know, it doesn't, doesn't mean the Padres are okay, but it also doesn't mean that, you know, everything's a disaster as well. They could go on this. This is what tomorrow and I, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if those started falling in and they, they have a big inning and score six or seven runs. So final score, Mariners two, Padres zero Mariners have two runs, four hits. They're expected batting average for the game for the game was one 77. We had zero around six hits. Our expected batting average was two 42, which that's nothing crazy, but certainly better than them. They found holes. They took advantage of an error. That was brutal. That was a brutal, brutal sequence from Lisa rise and, you know, again, that's the, that's the knock on Lisa. I mean, it's just you, you've pretty much, you have one bad game defensively, but pretty much he got through the entire time of Louisa rise playing at first base. Yeah. Okay. He like, he did okay. And then the final game likely that he's at first base because Andrew Bogart's was probably back and Jake Crunleworth returns. He commits the critical error that puts you behind in the second inning. It's like just one more day that we had to get through. That was the Billy Buckner from being town. Play there. It sucked. Man, it just went right through his legs. So listen, but again, it's one run. Remember when errors were fatal at the beginning of your house on Kim would boot one next one guy with a next guy with a three run homer? You got to pick him up offense. You got to pick up Michael King that's out there chopping his ass off for you. Kay and nine guys just doing a brilliant, brilliant job already over his innings, you know, previous innings pitched in the season. He is grinding for you. Get out there and get that guy a win yesterday off a pitcher that you should have handled and you didn't. So Padres will take today off. They will have their final series of the first half starting on Friday when the Atlanta Braves come to town and obviously you don't want to go into the all-star break like seven straight losses and under 500. So pretty, pretty important series coming up this weekend against the Atlanta Braves want to make sure you win that season series as well. We'll come back. We got real or fake on a Thursday throwback Thursday chance to qualify for Las Vegas. 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Just a couple of notes kind of had a funky start to the program with some weird technical difficulties. It is an Eno Sarah Smart Baseball Thursday, Eno will join us at 8.35 this morning, and we also have some more Fogarty tickets to give away when he's coming to the Radie Shell in September. I did not catch the money. There. I picked it up. I'm good now. So that's a couple of things we have coming up for you on the program today. Again, we're just a couple of minutes from Real or Fake. If you want to try your luck to qualify for the Getaway to Las Vegas will play our game on a throwback Thursday here in a couple of minutes. As I mentioned, it gets some injury updates again yesterday from the San Diego Padres, including a Zander Vogue Arts going back out on rehab assignments with the Lake Elson or Storm. And as I understand it, I saw a couple of videos of singles, he had two hits in the game. Was that surprising that he played in AAA last weekend, came back to San Diego and then went down to Abel? I think it's logistics because they were just probably at a doctor's appointment or something here in San Diego, maybe. No, I think, I mean, they remember the team was in Texas last week against the Rangers. So he had a short trip from Dallas to El Paso. Now the team's here in San Diego, so he wants to be with the Padres as much as possible. This keeps him as close to the team as he can and with an expected return, he doesn't have to go that far, just goes up to the freeway to Lake Elson or he can be back. He can probably go sleep in his own bed again tonight, go back to Lake Elson or tonight for a second game as the plan. And then likely on Friday, I would think would be activated to return to the Padres. So he had two hits. As I was reading Matt Fryer's description of his second at bat, I was trying to understand what happened. It sounds like he was at the plate. There was a pitch in the dirt that bounced off the catcher, like in front of the plate, and he just kind of to try to help out, just knocked it back to the catcher with his bat and the umpire called him out. Right. Interference. Yeah. Can't touch his pants. Let it go. It's a live ball at the moment. Yeah. I don't even know if there was anyone on base, but I don't know either. I'm assuming that there probably was. I guess so. Otherwise it really would not matter. Kind of stupid. It didn't matter either way, but for anyone who came out to see Xander Bogart's and wanted to see him have an at bat. And the Padres, you know, wanted to give as many at bats as possible. Thank you to that umpire for, I guess, taking the bat out of his hands. Biggest night of his life. Well, he's going to tie throughout Xander Bogart's, by the way, and I texted his buddies, I just threw out Xander in a. I mean, it wasn't a jacket if you just got an at bat taking away from him. I run him up. I went to the rule book on him. Yeah, it's just fine. It's the rules. I mean, it is the rules. Yeah. Rules are the rules are the rules, but it wasn't what I expected. So the other two at bats though went well, he played seven innings in the field. He was at second base, which is, you know, one of the round table topics coming up later again is, you know, the possibility that Hassan Kim is someone you could look to make a deal on this month, whether, you know, it's simply because, you know, he's going to be a free agent at the end of the year. You can get something. You could get a reliever. You could get pitching and moves and are back to shortstop. Is that something that you think the Padres are considering going into the trade deadline? We're no, we know they're looking for help. We know they're looking for starting pitching, another bullpen arm, maybe even an outfield bat, but could they also deal from their major league roster in kind of a kind of a mixed sort of trade deadline strategy? They could. They could. And they probably are thinking about it. And it's not only you that hates it. It would be, it would be Manny and Tati and Meryl and everybody. It's a very realistic and worthy conversation. Sure. Yes. Absolutely a conversation to absolutely could and maybe in some ways should happen, but I don't like it. I don't like it either. And those guys aren't going to like it either. So that if that's the risk you're willing to run for the chemistry of the team. If you think we've got good enough chemistry, you throw him into a package that could soften the blow for what you got to give up in prospect capital. No question. I mean, who, who, who needs one right now, the glaring, the glaring, yeah, middle infield, I would say. And actually, I mean, he could play really play three positions in the infield. So I mean, but the glaring needs are the Los Angeles Dodgers, which I don't want to do and the San Francisco Giants, which I also don't want to do. He can certainly sign with one of those teams in the off season. If he's a free agent, nobody signs him and, you know, trades for him and extends him right away. I doubt he would do that. Yeah, man. He's he's one of those guys. Let's be honest. I don't think the Padres are going to resign him at the end of this off season. And there's a good chance that one of those two teams does sign him. So if you operate from that realistic viewpoint that Hassan Kim was going to be a Dodger or a giant next season, and I'd say there's at least a coin flips chance that they heal you will be. That's like one of those two teams before the field. Would you rather have something for him or just have nothing and he's also a Dodger or a giant? I get it seems distasteful to trade him to a division rival, but isn't it worse to let him go to a division rival for nothing when you could at least get something for him for the last couple of months here when it's a position of strength and you have other holes and needs you need to address Adam says, Adam says, call me crazy. Isn't contending teams be the only teams to trade for? Yeah, they're both. Of course. Those are both contenders. You're not going to ship him off to the Marlins. The Rockies. The Rockies don't need him. Nobody's going to take a rental, but with so many teams in the mix. There's nothing other than our visceral reaction. There's nothing worse about sending him to the Dodgers versus versus the Giants versus the Reds versus the Pirates. Any team out of his point, though, it's in a playoff contender. You are going to help another team. Now, maybe if you sent them to the American League, we'd be able to get back for him. If they're contenders, they're not going to give you, hey, we'll take our number three starting pitcher. Who's dealing from a position of great wealth starting pitcher wise? It's possible that there's some extra bullpen arms on a team somewhere, but you can get a reliever and a prospect, and then you put those prospects in another package to get your starter. Yes, exactly. Exactly. It's a creative, it gives you more ammunition to get to potentially pull off another deal. All right. Ghost flee somebody then. I'll miss them. It's not me. I don't got to play with them every day, but those guys will tremendously. Tati loves them. Manny loves them. Xander loves them. Jackson Merrill loves them. They all love them. They all do. Hosmer loved them when hospital was here. They all love them. So again, that's the thing that you're risking, which is it's business. Now, hustle and Kim knows it's business. Manny, all the guys I just listed that love them. They also know it's a business. They also know they played for the Padres, where you're never really safe until you get a 10-year deal. The fact that we're having this conversation right now, and like we just mentioned, it's a very realistic possibility in the next couple of weeks, does it make you upset that they didn't trade him in the off season when his value is maybe at its highest? Not really. Not really. You know, we do have so many, so many, she gets a hindsight thing. Francis Kim has very little trade value. I don't believe that for a second. I really don't. Well, any player with only two months has limited trade value. You're not going to get... But he's got... Oh, you mean too much remaining. Two months remaining on their deal. You know you're not going to get a premium package back. But if you're the San Francisco Giants, you're like, if we trade for him, he will stay. More than likely. His best friend plays center field for the jungle league. Great Asian population there, knows about Melvin, I mean, come on, dude. They needed... What the hell was that? It was up, you know, so I think it just really depends on the fit. I don't want it. I don't want to see him go. My kids don't want to see him go. They love him. They love him. Awesome. Can't. The fan favorite, certainly. But yeah, I also understand you got to do what you got to do. It's just tough. It's tough to be put in this position here after a year. We went through it last year with Haener and Snell. Yeah. Weren't in the mix, really. We were barely hanging on. And we knew they were going to walk. It's different this year. They're more in the mix this year than they were last year. They really are. It's the same in the sense that you had two guys that you knew were going to walk. And you had those conversations last July. Should we try to get something for them knowing we probably aren't bringing either of them back or it's not the same thing that we have. And you could trade him and then Xander gets hurt again or Manny gets hurt and you'll go, "Wow. I wish we still had Hassan Kim." There's an absolute danger to trading Hassan Kim. But there's also a chance that Xander comes back. He's playing every day. He's playing pretty well. He's got to be in a lineup. Manny's got to be in a lineup. Jake's got to be in the lineup. Arise has got to be in a lineup. And you don't necessarily have a place for him every single day. So other than DH, but you've got Solano, who's done pretty well from the right-handed side of the plate, and it may be that he's just kind of a spare piece for the last couple of months. A good defender, but not a huge impact guy. Be tough to see him go, man. Yeah. Who wants to play real or fake? Give us a call. Go, 88097-3, 833-288097-3, we'll get to our game in just a minute or so. I did mention Mike Shilt had the update. Joe Musgrove and did it in front of the media threw off the mound off a slope as Mike Shilt called it, which is a big step. It's different than throwing on fl- different than long toss. It's different than just weighted ball, getting up on the mound and throwing some pitches, even if it's just fast balls and not even 100% fast balls. That's a big step for Joe, and Mike Shilt said the next step we'll see how does he recover? How does he feel the next day and the next day, if it goes well, then he'll take the next step and the next step, and so far he has taken every step they want him to see. Not going to be back next week, he's on the 60-day, won't be back until likely at least August, but so far so good in his progression back, in crossing your fingers that Joe could be part of this team the last two months of the season. Yeah, I mean we need we need all the help we can get right now, all the help we can get our buddy Mike, who's a huge host on Kim Finn and and hey, don't give me a wrong Mike, I am too. He said, "Kim's the ninth best shortstop in all baseball, he has the second highest F war on the Padres, sorry, but it's moronic to trade him if you're trying to beat him." That's also why you might be able to get something for him, other teams realize that as well. Yeah, I saw people and I know we're going to get to really figure, I also saw people talking about he has a mutual option. Yeah. So what does that mean when you trade somebody with a mutual option? Does it work the same way with the new team? Yeah, contract is transferred so they would have the decision whether or not they want to pick up the option or not. For another 7 million. My guess is that that's not enough for Hassan Kim to pick it up. He should be in line for a race based on what he's done in the last four seasons, maybe not a huge one, but he's probably, I don't know, 12 to $15 million player year. So I would say he would decline that option. Right. Yep. That's what he wanted to, but I doubt he will for just one season because he's in line for a multi-year deal, more money, no reason for him to take the option. Yeah. So I don't think that really is relevant. All right. See some collars on the line. It is time to play today's game of real or fake. Some are here for the compelling sports talk with Ben and Woods. You can go plow through another donut. It's time for real or fake on 97.3 the fan. Tell the people what they'll win today. All right. I qualify someone for our grand prize drawing. It's a two night stay at the Rio Las Vegas dinner for two day bed at the Rio pool. The Rio is back. New ownership. Newly remodeled rooms for sparkling new pools and a brand new food hall. The rhythm of Vegas book now at real Las Vegas.com. I'm just taking one at random here. Let's go. This Jason. Hey, good morning gentlemen. Good morning. Jason. Taylor fake, today's game is all about 1984 yesterday. Padres honoring their 1984 nationally championship team. Paulie, where were you in 1984? Six years from being a fan. Not even born. Woodsie, you were not in San Diego at the time, but you should be able to help here. So just about baseball or the year. What else happened in the world of sports in 1984 today on real or fake? I will give you a statement. You tell me if it's real true, Jason, or fake, false about the year 1984. Woodsie can help you if you'd like as well. You ready to play? I'm ready to go through it. Four out of sevens. Good enough to win. All right. Round number one. Real or fake in January, the Los Angeles Raiders won Super Bowl 18. Real or fake, Jason. On our words, do you have any idea on this one? Think it's real. He thinks it's real. Jason, what are you going to go with? Loaded Raiders fans. That's real. Real, yeah. The LA Raiders. Super Bowl champions. The Washington Football Club. The Washington Redskins. They were the Redskins at the time. That's one. Good to go. All right. Let's go to round number two. Real or fake, the 1984 Winter Olympics were held in Calgary, Canada. Real or fake, Jason. Real, what do you think? I'm rolling with you, Dog. I got no idea. Jason. What do you think? All right. Let's go real. Calgary was 1988. Sarajevo Yugoslavia in 1984. There were a Winter Olympics. That was when they were on the same year. Not indifferent. Oh yeah. Remember, they used to be all in the same year. All right. That's one. We'll go to round number three here. Jack Nicholas wins his final major title at the Masters. Real or fake in 1984, Jason. Whoo. I'm picking it real. You have an answer, what? Bro, my gut is telling. All right. So in '84, I was nine. My dad noted Jack Nicholas Hader. I feel like I didn't meet. I didn't even meet. My dad was 10. And I feel like Nicholas won after I met my dad. I feel I'm doing this some deductive reasoning going on. I'm going to say, I'm going to say fake, bro. I think he won one after this. Jason, I hope I'm not wrong, but that's just my gut. I can't. I'm wrong. I'm really worth worth. All right. Yeah. Remember his comeback? Yes, sir. That was 1986. You're right. After you met your dad. Yes. Yes. That's correct. Yes. All right. My dad. Whoa. The snap man. Loads. What did Jack Nicholas do to Gary Woods? He can't say him. He's already guy. Alright. He's going to say real. He's going to say real. Woods is shaking his head. No. And what's your wrong? No, no, no, no. I thought it was a. No, that was 84. Yeah, they won it here in San Diego. The holiday bowl. Who was quarterback? The Tigers. No, no, that was. That was. I'm going to say real. I'm going to say real. He's going to say real. Woods is shaking his head. No. And what's your wrong? No, no, no, no, no. I thought it was a. No, that was 84. Yeah. They won it here in San Diego. The holiday bowl. Who was quarterback? No, that was. No, that was. That was in Jim McMahon. No. No. No, I've already played it. No. That was the. Miami. For BYU. For BYU. 1984. Robbie Bosco. All you need is one more. One more gets it done. And get gets it done. Alright, real or fake, Jason. Wayne Gretzky leads the Edmonton Oilers to a Stanley Cup title. Real or fake? Oh. Let's see, I know he's got traded in a king shortly after it was in Dallas. You know, I'm going to go real on that one. He's going to go real with shaking his head again. And Woods, you are wrong again. You guys. That was incredible. All of his year. And that is it. That's a win, Jason. Congratulations. Hang on the line, Paul. It will get your information. A well-played game. A couple more here. Let's try a. Akima Laijuan. Michael Jordan. And Charles Barkley. We're all taken in the top five of the NBA draft. Yes, true. That is true. 1984. And former USC football star, OJ Simpson, with the Olympic Calderon at the LA Coliseum to begin the 1984 Summer Games. True. Paul, so it was Rafer and Johnson. Although OJ did carry the torch through Los Angeles. OJ did a lot of stuff in Los Angeles. He did. Did not like the Olympic flame in 1984. Well-played game, Jason. Congratulations. We'll put you into the drawing for the trip to the Rio Las Vegas. All right. We'll come back. We've got don't do this is coming up next. There's a lot of. I think for do do this. There's a lot of U.S. men's soccer fans, U.S. men's team soccer fans that are very happy today. Probably a lot of soccer talk in our next segment because there was a big don't do this moment in Charlotte last night in the Copa, America as well. Get to that coming up after a check of traffic here on 97-3 The Fam. Don't do this. I got to lose the pass for your new fan. Don't do this. Listen. If I was something bad, I mean, tell me I'm a bad boy. You know, just tell me I'm a bad boy. Why? Just. Why? I get the argument. You don't have to explain it to me. I'm not a moron. Let me tell you why I am a dummy. It is time for don't do this. Don't do this. On 97-3 The Fam. Don't do this. Brought to you by the Craft Taco in Serenville Valley. Craft Taco is some of the best quality tacos in all of San Diego. Go to thecrafttaco.com. Take a look at their Happy Hour specials today. It's thecrafttaco.com. What's? It's all over. My Twitter feed last night, everyone was sending it to me. Woodsy DDT DDT. Yeah, I'm talking about the Copa America semifinals last night in Charlotte. Uruguay players, including Darwin Nunez, went into the stands then and fought Columbia supporters. And it got pretty ugly. It reminded everybody of the malice at the palace, which there's a great documentary. I don't know where it is. I think maybe it's on ESPN. Maybe it's even on Netflix. They talked about, you know, Ron Artes going into the stands and that you saw the thing. The drinks fly in and people ganging up and just fight, punch, fight, back up. Look, I mean, it was it's something that is so gnarly to think about being in the middle of. It really established the ultimate rule is that if you're a player, you can never go into the stands. You have to turn the other cheek. The other cheek, no matter what they're saying to you, even if they're throwing things out, you can't go after fans. But in this case, I'm not entirely sure that that is true because the reason they went into the stands was this was the small section where the Uruguay and families were sitting and they saw their families getting into fights with Columbia's fans and people were throwing things and throwing punches. And you can make the case that they were simply going up to protect their families, which honestly, I don't I don't know that I can totally blame them for. No, and you know, they were really, really hot too about about losing that game. It was very it's chippy. And you see that, you know, you see, you see the play on the field get chippy is one thing. Then you see and you hear the fans going nuts. I mean, it is like I was thinking about it last night. But I don't know that SDFC games are ever going to get like this wild, Benny, but the potential, I guess, is always there. It's just nuts. And, you know, maybe there's some don't do this for the security and not not keeping the fans a little more in line in the stands. Something went wrong last night, though. One of their players, one of Uruguay's players, Jose Jimenez, blamed the incident, a lack of security saying he went over there to protect his family, accusing fans of drinking too much and starting trouble. This is a disaster. Our families are in danger. Not one single policeman who it was the video. And of course, you know what happens, the one video comes out and then you start getting videos from inside the like the eye of the fight for everyone starts posting there's was bananas, man, tool for that mess. All right. This one, a little more light hearted when it comes to DDT, but I mean, serious to the competitors just the same. So this story gave me a strong vibes of the fish weight, yes, yes, you're right kind of a similar type of story. So of course, last Thursday was the Nathan's famous hot dog eating contest, Fourth of July, Tony Island, no Joey Chestnut didn't compete had the whole plant based endorsement that kept him out. Nathan Bertoletti or Patrick Bertoletti won with a 58 hot dogs one, but one of the top finishers was Nick Wary who has was given a score of 51.75. After the fact though, and here's the don't do this, according to the New York Post, a couple of anonymous sources say that Wary after the competition was over, walked around and grabbed someone else's empty plate and added it to his pile. And that is how they do the original count. The hot dog plate has five hot dogs on it. So if you have like 10 empty plates, that's 50 right off the bat. And then they look at what's remaining in front of you and go and you ate two and a half more there. So 52 and a half. So they did the original count and he had 45, 46 and then nine plates and all of a sudden they did a recount, they had 10 plates and they added five to his total. Well, they did an investigation and the results are a little unclear. Really eating the governing body says they don't they don't change results after they're already official, but they're not saying whether or not they think he did it or not. He denies that he cheated. Although says if they want to lower his score by five, he's okay with it as well. Well, that makes no sense. No sense at all. Right? No sense whatsoever. So he is a hot dog investigation on this hot dog investigation. They're a hot dog investigator. Amen. Don't wouldn't you know, how many hot dogs you ate or once you get to that point, you fell off. Oh, I think you're blacked out. Yeah. But there needs to be a. People need to be. It's like a count. I thought they had like official counters where they're watching them swallow and then like open their mouth and like, okay, it's gone. There's another one, two, three, right. I didn't realize it was simply counting empty plates. Right. I did it. I had no idea either. I also didn't think people would put weights into the belly of a bass. But listen, you know, people are weird. They're very very. I like to win. Anything to win, man. They're always looking for that. The winning doesn't mean anything if you cheated to them. Right. I guess not. Then you don't really crave winning. You crave the attention and accolades, but not the actual accomplishment. But the thing is like with the fishing story, it's not like the prize, but it's the prize, but it's not like those guys were like, it's not like the other guys go, man, we work so much harder than you did. Like we put it in the work. There is training involved in the hot dog eating, but like in the band, we put in all the hard work and you guys threw the way well, we were out there fishing too. We just put weights in our fish, but like you didn't put in extra hours. You know, it's not like steroids. This is one of those weird sports that to me feels like, okay, everyone goes out there and it's just kind of luck who gets the heaviest fish. Right? You can't see the fish underwater. Yeah. But when it's about who gets the heaviest fish feels like it's entirely luck, but like poker where you have to get the right cards, the same guys do tend to win, though, those fishing competitions. So there has to be some sort of skill. They know where they are involved, and they know how to, yeah, I don't know, reel them in who'd somehow, but like waiting down a fish is not, it's not this, like you didn't cheat, you didn't cheat like yourself of like hard work, you know what I mean? Yeah, this is a real short harder to work harder to like try to get that through. One of my favorite stories that we've ever done on the show. All right. How about a little do do this? I know many people have this mega do do the US Soccer Federation announced yesterday that Greg Berhalter much, much maligned Greg Berhalter has been relieved of his duties as head coach of the US men's national team, effective. Immediately yesterday in US soccer sporting director, that'll change things, right? Yeah. Now it'll be on the right track. Probably Matt Crocker will lead and as launched a search for Berhalter's replacement, many people talking about Jurgen Klopp is the next potential coach of men's soccer in America. And I don't know. I don't know. He's like the dream get. He's the dream get. Yeah. Yeah. People were very happy to see this this rain come to an end and I think I believe it was on social media. So it must be true. Somebody said that Gio Reyna about six minutes after it was announced, hit it on Instagram with the like, you know, like, all right, good. Get them out of there. They notoriously butted heads. So yeah, man, we'll we'll see who they get. But now when you when the clock rumor is out there and if you don't if you aren't able to afford him or get him, you do the thing with Lakers did where you're like, oh, it's funny. There's very few actual American candidates to coach the US national team. I think Steve Chirundalow is one of the names that's brought up. You just made that up. I did not make that up. He's won the MLS title played for the US national team. But most of the major coaches that we're going after are not Americans. They're from other countries where they do soccer better than we do. Hector really wants to call in on this eight, three, three, two, eight, zero, nine, seven, three, he's in my DMS all day. You can call in and give your take more soccer talk, more soccer talk, but right now that is don't and do do this for a Thursday. That was don't do this with Ben and Woods, a 97 three, the fan bonus to do this to Tim Flannery for a very nice rendition of the national anthem yesterday on the 1984 throwback day for the San Diego Padres. Good week for Tim. Bonus don't do this and I'll ask Woods why. I thought you were going to be there. Yeah, we pulled the rip court about halfway there. Like you were on the way. Yeah. Does this require a story and explanation? I mean, I have a six year old and a three year old and you just weren't feeling it. No, I mean, by the time we hit the split, we looked at ways and it was still an hour. We were going to be late for the national anthem and he went by the time probably going. By the time we hit the split, it was still an hour. I was like traffic issues. Yeah. It was a behavioral issue. Not real. I mean, Hannah was being good. There's always behavioral issues, always, it never ends and we went home and it was, it was good. I got to go watch the game and actually pay attention. So it's fine. I gave the tickets to tier one. You did, which was nice. Yeah. Yeah. He was very happy until of course he had to sit through a two nothing loss. Fair enough. I was playing, I was playing chess, not checkers by not going to that game. All right. We'll come back. I've got a 1984 round table question for you as well to get to coming up. 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It's too late because we're moving on and we're going to talk to more baseball here. The dictator has spoken specifically a little 1984 pod raise question for you. We'll do that after a check of traffic here on 97 through the fam got it to the pod raise had a number of the the 1984 alums out yesterday's they gave away the throwback hats saw many stars from that team. Tempe was on the TV broadcast, Dave Drevecki was there, Terry Kennedy obviously, Tim Flannery was there and performed that the national anthem, which was fantastic. And of course, the garve was there, senatorial candidate Steve Garvey. And this one always is a dilemma for me and I'm going to bring it up at the round table later today. But it's something pod raise fans have been talking about for years and years and years and nothing ever changes, but we keep talking about it. That is, should the San Diego pod raise unretire the number six that they retired for Steve Garvey? Can you unretire a number? I don't think you can. First of all, can't once it's retired. Well, I mean, other than your other than like, you know, murder, okay, Simpson. No, I mean, look, a right situation. Do you ever not doing this again? I stepped in this authentically, you knew this too, by the way. How dare you ask this question? You knew what happened to me. Remember? I don't remember. He's a, I don't remember. You absolutely do. Turn the mics off. I have a very short memory. Yeah, okay, ultimately, I'll say it, I think it was a stupid decision in the beginning, but I have leading the fifth. It's one of my fondest memories as a pod raise for a lot of people say that were there. Was the home run in 1984 and in game four of the nationally championship series was that the first number. And I see the number six, even though I look, I know Steve Garvey is more of a dodger than a ponter. And I know what you're saying, Paul, that that was the first number they retired that maybe, uh, was it the, I think Dave Winfield, maybe he was, no, maybe it was Gar, I don't, I don't remember it. It may have been even before they, cause they put it up, they put the six up at the queue on the wall where the, where the home run went out. It was almost more like to mark the spot than necessarily is a true full number retirement, but it is one of my absolute fondest childhood memories. Is that home run? When they played it. When they played it yesterday. It's so cool. It's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. The Opo, Lee Smith. Um, now of course, I'm not a Gar fan anymore. He's just, he's too much of a dodger for me obviously, you know, gets, gets political now as well. 14 years with the Dodger. It's remember when he came into the old show and the old station and brought us King Sawion rolls, I mean, that was pretty solid and he made a video for my mom, who by the way, absolutely loves Steve Garvey as did everybody's mom. And, uh, of course, that was a fond memory, you know, we had just started as a show. He came in. And he was great. He was great. And you know what? I think we should retire. Jake Croninworth's number for that double. He hit against the Dodgers, uh, let's retire, retired Josh haters number because he struck out the side in the NLCS back in 2022. That was pretty cool. We should retire his number. I think it's one of the. I think it's a really hard question because I don't blame Padres fans who don't feel like it's, it fits necessarily, you know, having Garvey mentioned alongside Tony Gwen and Dave Wienfield and Randy Jones, there's, it's the old Sesame Street. One of these things is not like the other and you got to pick the one out of the four that doesn't really match. Garvey doesn't really match the other ones. I get that. I totally get Padres fans who say that it's got to be weird as hell for him too, right? I would think so. I'm bad. But again, I mean, I guarantee you asking him, he's a dodger. Adulations. Adulations. Yes, he is. He's absolutely a dodger. Which is fine. But again, it is one of my absolute best Padres memories of my life. It was that when you're that age, what was I like, nine, nine, and you're just really getting into baseball and all of a sudden your team, which has never, never been good, never made the playoffs in your lifetime or in your dad's lifetime and he's been going to the game since they started. All of a sudden they're in the playoffs and they're down two games, nothing and no one's surprised. Oh, they're going to get swept. This is a was a nice little story and then they come back, but it looks like it's going to be over the game. You know, your moments away from being eliminated from the Cubs and he steps up and hits that home run. Smith. It's Smith. You know, it's I love you. I love the, you know, Jake's hit in the beginning against the Dodgers beating him in the playoff series. It was amazing. There's been many amazing moments in pot race history. It's hard not to say that's still not the most amazing, incredible moment in pot race history. It was a walk off home run to save them in the nationally championship series and then they went on to go to the world series the next day. I know. And the franchise history is totally different. If he doesn't hit that home run, totally different that did it deserve a number retirement. I don't know probably probably not, but I'm I'm really hesitant to go to the whole length of them. Unretiring it now that it's retired to me that was putting a big spotlight on the lack of history up until that point, which is fine. If you didn't have a reason to retire a number, you shouldn't just come up with one. Like, yeah, I think, Paul, you make a good point, like Tony Gwen, absolutely number retirement now. I know. But when it when he came in and his career was on, I think, yeah, giving brainer, giving like the perspective of history and now that you have Trevor and you have Tony and you have more things about your franchise, you probably wouldn't have gone back and done that. But what a moment that was. Yeah. Can you can you put that toothpaste back in the tube? I don't know that you can, you know, unless, like you said, cut somebody's head off or something, you know, there's certainly there's certainly never going to be an unretirement serum. No! Jerry Rice cut touchdowns with the Oakland Raiders across the Bay. They're going to retire his jersey. They had history, though, who are advocating for this. You have to know they're never going to have a big news conference and announce it's going it's going to be unretired. The most you could ever hope for is it's kind of somewhat ignore it a little bit in the future. But I don't even think that's going to happen. They have a big giant six statue there as you walk into Pekko Park. I wasn't alive when this all happens. So maybe my perspective doesn't count, but it just seems like at that point they're going, we haven't really tired anybody's number yet. We've been around for 30 years. What are we going to do? That's a great opportunity. There was an element of that. Even at the time I could tell there was an element of that to it didn't feel like that slam dunk like other teams when they retire someone's number, you know, it's usually because they had a long stretch career with all their entire career with that team or most of their Hall of Fame career was with that team. That wasn't Garve's case. It was the end of his career that was spent obviously mostly with your rival Carlos. I guess someone stole it. The guy that made the original, we can't find him. We're just going to eat so he goes into the dead of night. We're going to get crazy. We'll get around and replacing it one day. I'm sure. No, no, no. It's not. We have an unretired crap, dude. That killed me. I, I, I, Garve, I don't know what happened. Somebody must have stolen it. It grabbed it as a, as a memento, whether you like it or not, Steve Garvey is an a part of pot raise history. Sure. That will never change like him or not like him like the fact that the six is there or probably you don't. It's never changing that he is always going to be a big part of pot raise history and a good part of it as well. That's the thing. We're not talking about someone who did anything bad. The, he was, this was an awesome thing that he did and he played well for the pot raise when he was here. He did. He absolutely did. And it's not like we over celebrate things too much in San Diego when it comes to sports. You know, that we have very few things that we actually can look back on fondly over the last 50 years of sports, mostly misery and failure. This is one of the really, really, really good things that happened in San Diego sports, but a lot of people just want to kind of shove it under the rug because obviously he also played most of his career with another team. How dare you dare you I mean, literally, I mean, it's they didn't even go on to win the world series. Right. Right. I think that element changes things a little bit to right, but again, I was six years from being born. So yeah, you don't. I guess I don't get to say anything, but I think it's, I think it was kind of. Now, here's the other, here's the other question that I have from 1984 that's coming into the round table. So if you could add one player from the 1984 pod raise to this pod raise team for the last two and a half months of the season, who would you pick and keep it up? Keep it. Now you can say Tony Gwen. It's, I mean, obviously you're taking 1984 Tony Gwen who is a batting champion. We need a right fielder and you do need a right fielder right now, but he's just coming back. Don't you need a pitch pitching more though? I want Tony Gwen in right field for this day. Today, today would be great. You wouldn't want a solid starter, like put Eric Shao out there every fifth day. No, I would take Tony Gwen on Eric Shao every fifth day. Yes. As much as we need pitching, give me Tony Gwen all day long, all day long and it's not even close. And then when Tetis comes back, what do we, do we move Tony? Yeah. Move Tony. We also have a Louisa rise though is going to be d hing. First place. Yeah. Which one do you have on the bench? Tony Gwen or Louisa rise. When put that piece comes back, put those dudes one and two in the order. The pictures like Son of a bitch, nothing that can throw dead, you just don't even split him up. I just go back to back. First third, just like that. Gwen arise. Gwen arise. Bump. They're done. Arise with. Done. 1984 Tony had a lot of speed. I think you put him. Man first. I'd love it. I would love it. Move Tony first to third. That would be that would be pretty devastating. That would be pretty nasty, dude. I but yeah, Goose wouldn't be the usable man help. He wouldn't be the worst pick either. He'll go to three whatever you need, beat the crap out of the other team if need be like he's he's I'd have to cover him the last couple of months of the year that would be awkward. Yeah, it's a it's an interesting one. I'm interested to see what what everyone says on the round table. It's going to be enough to listen, but it's going to be a draft format so you're not allowed to pick who the last person picked. So I assume Tony Gwen's going to be chosen first I would I let all let Tony Gwen make the first pick there because presumably he's going to take his dad in that situation which will he's like no Craig Leffert's well taken care of Kennedy. Great leader. What? He's your dad right there. That was great. It's not a horrible choice either isn't he I saw it was my man. What are you doing? He can I saw. Is he traded you? Yeah, me and him just don't get a lot. He's big personality. I'm a big personality. It doesn't always work. I saw a Tempe yesterday on the broadcast man and I loved it. I loved Tempe so much listening to him tell some old stories about, you know, Dick Williams and all the guys. It was great. I know people get tired of celebrating a World Series loss. I was kind of felt that way I didn't live here at the time, but when we did that freaking roundtable last year at fantasy camp and we listened to all those stories, it was nothing like it. I could have sat there for another two hours. My man Ben moderated the whole thing. It was so good and you see these guys and how appreciative they are of their time here and what it meant to them. It was awesome. Adam's making fun of me. He goes a fifth starter or a first ballot Hall of Famer Eric Shout 1984 15 wins. 34 ERA 206 innings pitched. I mean, that's better. I mean, we're talking about a frontline starter that you could add to your rotation. It's Tony Gwyn, dude. I get it. It was 1984. He wasn't a Hall of Famer yet. He was only in his like second season. It doesn't matter. He's batting champion and speedy. You should get it. I get it. I'm all in. Tony Gwyn. All right. That's all coming up at 10 o'clock in our roundtable. Next though, we've got, you know, Sarah's in our eight o'clock hour and more all coming up here with Beno Woods on 97.3 to fan. We're halfway home on a Thursday. Beno Woods, 97.3. The fan. Great to be here with you. Pottery's a bit of a skid right now, which we, I think probably should have seen coming based on how the season has trended this year, you know, when, when a few lose a few, et cetera, et cetera. But listen, not going to, and not going to ruin our good time today. That's for sure. That's Paul Rindel. He's the executive producer, Molly Polly. Good morning. It's like the pottery's like a carousel ride up and down, up and down, up and down. Are we allowed to say that? No. No, no, no. No amusement park. No, no. Do not invoke any sort of ride in any sort of amusement park ever. They're like a yo-yo goes down and then it goes down and then it goes back up. No, no, no, no. That's not a ride. Nope. No. No, it's. Yeah. Ben Higgins. They're like a boomerang. Sports. They're going forward. And then they come around and come back. It's actually a good metaphor. Well, can you use boomerang? All right. Found one. It's a roller coaster. Yeah. Sorry, Mike. It's a roller coaster. It is. You may have, it may have been prematurely used earlier this year. Fair. That's a fair point. It is now though. And, and when Mike shilt pushed, pushed back against it, he, he, maybe he was right. You were a little early and you're calling the season a roller coaster after a month or so. It's not terribly anymore. This has been a, an absolute roller coaster ride. Paul, you had the, you had the stat earlier, uh, too much more than said it, but here is the, uh, the stretch from the earlier in the season. So Padres went five and one, then 0 and five, five and one, 0 and five, 12 and three, and now 0 and four. It's, it's as up and down as you're going to get in a baseball season. And three was like the loop. Yeah. That, that, that's his back and forth as you're going to see in a baseball season. Yeah. You know, normally it's going, you're going to have up and down stretches. Every team does, but they'll be a little bit softer on the edges. You know, it'll be six and three and then four and seven and then it'll be eight and four and then it'll be two and five. This is very glaring, very distinct, very easy to see. When you go to like an ESPN page and you just have the schedule and you see the W's and L's all in a line, they're very much grouped. It's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red. I was going to kill him. Remember that I thought about it this morning, the Padres heartbeat and I thought Ben's Padres heartbeat. I'll do it. I'll do it for summer break. All right. Up until next week, uh, unofficial first half of the season, yeah, we'll see how it ends against the Braves. You guys missed it. We did it last year. We gave up on it after like a week, we were dying, but we had a for wins. It was the sound was yes. And for losses, dang it. So when they lost like three in a row, dang it, dang it, dang it, so we just played them all together. It was like the heartbeat of the Padres and it was, was funny as hell and then it got really long. We'll get some new ones. We'll freshen it up this year. We'll do it for the entire first half of the season. Yeah, first half of the season. We'll just play for you guys in our break, it'll be the audio representation of what you can see visually. I'm on the page right now, the grad green, red, green, red, green, red, green all the way through the season. Grad is when they taught. Yeah. Yeah, green and red. Uh, yeah. Next week though on Ben and Woods, as you know, we have, uh, we have summer break here on the program. We're still here. It's like summer school, basically for us. We're here. There's no games or anything. I never had summer school. I went to summer school in college just because I wanted to finish because I wasted like two years with no credit. So I had to catch up. So I had to do summer school, but we'll do this is like summer school for us because we're, we're still here. Is he, is he making us, is he making us do a round table next week, no games? I think so. Is he really? Yeah. This will be our third mid season report. Yeah. Because this week's kind of a mid season. We did it a couple weeks ago, a couple weeks ago, the actual halfway point and then we'll hang the round table next to another mid season round table next week. We got no games up to the moderator to come up with new and interesting topics for next week. Anybody's doing this 30 summer break, they wouldn't get actual, uh, players like in studio. I'm sure that's what they want. They're going to be flying out on Thursday to our Cleveland. I think to start the second half of the season. Next Friday. Yeah. Cleveland. Yeah. Another really hard team. Please watch this in Baltimore. This month. And I don't think, I don't think these, I'm not saying that these four losses are schedule necessarily driven, but the month of July is a fairly brutal one. It's the, it's the most brutal remaining month schedule wise for the Padres. They, they take on pretty much nothing but good opponents. The rest of this month, Atlanta, Cleveland, Washington nationals aren't great, but they're still in the playoff hunt for sure at Baltimore and then the Dodgers. That's the rest of this month. Those are first place teams to get Cleveland, Baltimore, Los Angeles, first place teams. You got wild card leaders in the Braves and a wild card contender in Washington. Then in August, it, it definitely gets a little bit tighter. You got Rocky series, Miami series, Rocky series, Pittsburgh may or may not still be, you know, going forward at that point. We'll see what they do at the trade deadline. We got two series against Pittsburgh. It's not nearly as tough in August as it is in July, but July is a very brutal stretch for the San Diego Padres schedule wise. Yeah. It's tough. So next week we'll be in here on summer break. It will be, you know, doing the recaps of the year, but there's anything you guys want to talk about next week. This is when we really get a chance to explore the space. We could get really freaky in here if we wanted to. You know what I mean? Kind of hope we do. Like freaky. We could get, we could do whatever we want. We have the empty canvas here, basically. Then we're going to get a tattoo on the air. That would be amazing. What will you do? Would you do that then? We'll come up with some ideas. No, I don't, I do not want a tattoo, but if it's just like a little circle, like, like like on your legs, one of your moles on your hip even like a sexy right here on your hip. That sexy little spot on your hip. Guarantee somebody's a tattoo artist. All right. I'm going to have to come. I'm going to come. I'm going to come fully clean as well. Okay. I don't endure pain very well. And I know that there are people who really find the process of getting the tattoo painful. Why did you say that like it was some big secret that we didn't already know? My wife does not. She is very, she's sitting, they call it sitting well. She sits. There's different parts of the body where it won't hurt her. Yeah, yeah. There's parts that won't hurt her. You're not going to affect your TV career. I know it's not. Well, we're not going to get you the mike, Tyson. It would have to be some little spider web around your neck. It would have to be somewhere where I can't see it. Right. It would bother me to see it. I'd keep trying to rub it off. I don't like my back show. Right. It's even there is someone ever, you know, you know, people write on their hands like a note. Yeah. Even if it washes off that, but it creeps me out like writing on my skin. So to have permanent writing in my skin, I think would really bother me. Carlos says, get SD fat loss on your lower back, like a tramp stamp SD fat loss. I'll get eco water across my chest. The fat loss around your, like a tramp stamp would be amazing. Is that term offensive these days? I think it is. Ben getting tattooed on the air live on the air would be pretty amazing. Yeah. I mean, I would do it. I know. Yeah, I can see that. It's not as sure. You would bother me. Yeah. That would bother me. I heard this up here really, really hurt. My buddy got ribs like all up and down the ribs and he said, I want to get actual ribs tattooed on my ribs. Like baby back ribs, baby back ribs on my ribs. Can you tattoo like a six pack of abs? Yeah. You do that. They could shade it in. It looks like you've got abs. They could shade it in. They could shade it in. Yeah. Listen, summer break, it's anything goes. Probably do some drinking on the air next week for sure. Got to find the new drink of the summer. We did the Sunny D seltzer last year. Oh, yeah. What phenomenal? What is this year's? It was phenomenal. It was so good. So we did that last year. We'll have some fun. Yeah. It's going to be real loosey on Ben and Woods as if it's not normally it's normally a really tight ship. Take this tight ship. Take this tight ship. It's going to loosen it up a bit out to the middle of nowhere. Well, listen, man, this team doesn't give us a hell of a lot to talk about of days like today. This is what it is. Joey says weeding Ben and Woods tattoos. No, that's his kiss of death. It's kiss of death. I would get our show logo tattooed. It's like that you can't. So I'm going to cherish this moment. I'll cherish it too, but it's the season of my life forever. But what if it went really bad as radio shows often do and you're like it went out with the high. Isn't that the fear any time you get a tattoo of anything? It's no longer going to be meaningful to you in four years. No, but it begs the question, would you do Megan's name? Hannah's been after me for 10 years. On our third day, she's like, you need to get my name tattooed. I'm like, you're out of your mind. I literally just got divorced. I'm not getting some of these names. I would do something for her. I don't know that I would just do her names, but like I've thought about something like in her handwriting. I think it's a cool idea. Like what? I don't know. Like I love you or something or something from our wedding vows or something like that. What other name? Property of Megan. Laughter property. What? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I wouldn't. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Everyone's digging the little holes this morning. I feel like on this program, none bigger than you, my friend. Very true, very, very true. Ooh, a calf sleeve would look good on you. I think I'd rather have a piercing than a tattoo. We can make that happen. I could absolutely make that happen today. I'll stop. Hold on. I'm number one. I'm blown away. Yeah. Where? I don't know. By the way, you're an idiot. You're an idiot, my god. Like Ed Bradley? Yeah. I'm a tattoo because of the pain. You're a solid man. I, you know. Ed Bradley, Ben. Ben would be Ed Bradley. Would you, would they make you take it out on, they can't, they can't make you take it out on channel 10. Did you get your nipple pierced? Ow. That sounds really painful. Woods. My tiny little bit. You guys have a lot of surface area. I don't. I have one tiny little thing. I want a little bar. Yes. A little bar. Yeah. And then you see it through my t-shirt every morning. Would you be repulsed if you looked over and you saw the little bit. No. I love them on women. I had big fat, but men, a little different, but I had a little nose ring for you. I feel like that would hurt a lot. I think they all hurt. I think they all hurt. He won't do a tattoo because of the pain. Do you know what a Prince Albert is? Yeah. You ever thought about that? No. All right. When you think of the spot, then I'll make that happen. Yeah, we'll make it happen. The ear. Please get an earring. Oh, this is a life crisis. I can see it coming on him. I can see it. I can smell it, and it's going to be such good content. Were you Pierce's year on a Monday? By Tuesday, he's got leather jacket. Oh. The Corvette. We'll start looking at vets when I get back next week. How about that? After the show, we'll start looking at Corbett's. I like this. I don't see me with a nose ring. A ring just at this stuff. Yeah. Do we? Do we? No. Do men do the stunt? I don't think so. I don't think so. I definitely have a belly button, as I don't really have a belly button, so I can't get it pierced. Dead, man. I am dead. Tongue. One of those clickers. Yeah. You just sit down the whole show. Click. Click. Click. Click. Nightmare. Yeah. You have to do it. Okay. If you had an earring, would it be like a diamond stud? Yeah. Or would it be a dangling barry bond? No, I don't think it's campus sun. What about me? What if it was like a dangling golf ball? I wouldn't want to feel it. It was like a dangling golf ball. No. A golf ball stud. It'd be like a tea. A tea for what? Golf. Golf tea. Oh, golf tea. No, no, no. Not the letter tea. Golf tea. The plugs. Like really drag is here out. Drag it out. Like the holes. Yeah. What are those called spacers? Plugs out there? I mean, you just told me when I'll make it happen. A little diamond would look really cool. A little of them. Yeah. All right. Summer break. You never know what might happen. Let's go to break right now, though. All right. Let's take time out. We got Enos Serus on the way at the bottom of the hour. Stay tuned for that. That was one of my favorite segments of all time. He's like, I'm not going to get a tattoo. I would get a piercing, though. Excuse me. I am just saying, Dan, if you made me choose between the two. Gages is what they're doing. Yeah. I mean, you can always take out the piercing at some point and it goes away tattoo. You can't. It never goes away. That's part of it. It's part of the equation for me. Yeah. All right. Other baseball games yesterday. We've got an update. We've got a very tight, tightening wild card race in the National League. We'll get to that coming up. It's exhausted. Check traffic here on 97.3, the fan. Speaking of earrings, just as the conversation turned in our last segment, I just got this in. Adam brought it in. The Luis Camposano pin that they're giving away this Sunday theme game ticket actually has a dangling earring from Campi's ear. It's actually part of the pin. Yes. I don't know if you can see it right there. It's that cross earring that's actually part of the pin. They also will be giving away the no-no Joe pin series as well. You do need a theme game ticket. That Sunday's game against the Atlanta Braves on the 14th. Tickets are still available even for the theme game as well. I'm always intrigued by those theme game giveaways because well, the ones that are for everyone like the hat yesterday, fantastic. It's kind of special when you're like one of the few who get the limited edition stuff, but you do have to take the extra step of signing up and getting one of the theme game tickets. If you're a pin collector, and I know they have the Fernando one, they've had the series going on, you don't want to miss out this Sunday for the latest offering. I wanted to buy a theme game ticket for the Merrill Christmas shirt. I want it. But when I went to go buy the tickets and when I went to buy them, it said they're only available and medium and large, I think. Oh, that's the only size is left or that's the only size they have. You can squeeze me into a large Jackson Merrill shirt. The overcooked hot dog in the microwave just folding out of the top. You've lost weight. You ain't fitting in. No, no chance. And also ballpark. I'm just down. I'm just down. Finally down to extra large ball park, some t-shirts ball park, larges are different. They're smaller than regular larges. So as much as I want that Jackson Merrill shirt, I can't wear it in a large. That's a bummer. I like that shirt a lot though. I like it a lot. I was going to buy one on eBay or something, but not if they don't have an XL. Now I'm seeing in the chat that they say it's medium or extra large, not medium or large, but the two choices are medium or XL. Okay, I'll take an XL. That's better. All right. I might. I want, but you wash it once and then it's, then it's this guy like, what's up? Hank, you got a hang dryer here. I think the worst t-shirts are the ones when you put your arms over your head that they pull up above your belly, that's the worst. That is the worst. The worst, dude. I hate it. They just suck down a donut in here. So you tell I'm very concerned about it. So I know I'm always the good news merchant. Yes. Trying to spin bad days into good and I don't have much for you today. Here's what I've got. Potter is actually picked up a half game on the St. Louis Cardinals in the wild car. It's not the worst. That is not the worst good news you've ever delivered. The Cardinals actually lost twice yesterday's to the Kansas City Royals. They were swept in a double header. The Padres didn't lose ground to everybody in the National League playoff chase. Unfortunately, a couple of the teams that are more concerning that are right behind them are gaining ground and gaining ground fast. The New York Mets beat the Washington Nationals six to two and don't look now, but the Mets are a game above 500 in just a half game behind the San Diego Padres for the third and final wild card spot in the National League. And that, of course, is a team that pretty much has unlimited resources. Good point, man. Very, very good point. One of the teams we talked about yesterday that we buried. They were done. They were training everybody. Mets fans buried their own team after like three weeks of the season. Italian Paul was like despondent when he filled in for Paul. He was terrible. You guys are going to kill us this weekend. We got smoked and they went on a run and they've stayed on a run and like you said, unlimited resources to do whatever they want. And yeah, super fun. They've kind of rallied around the the Lindor all-star snub, not getting in and taking some momentum here into the all-star break. And the Arizona Diamondbacks, of course, it just took two or three from the Padres. They beat the Braves yesterday, seven to six and the defending nationally champions are just a game and a half back in that wild card race. So there are plenty of contenders still as we head toward the break and the trade deadline and I would say if you had two teams behind you that I was most worried about, those are the two because of the Mets resources and the Diamondbacks having already had the success from last season. Like the knowledge that they can and have done it makes them a little bit more dangerous than say the Pirates or the Reds or the Nationals or some of the other teams that are that are still in contention. Yeah. You know, three, you know, three or four games back. What about giants giants? Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm a little worried about them. You know, Blake Snell gets healthy and he's second half Blake Snell, you know, the Kyle Harrison Logan. Yeah. They probably the next on my list. They did lose to the the Blue Jays 10 to six Logan Web gave up seven runs yesterday. So they've just never been able to truly get on a roll this season, but they're not out of it. They're they're only like three three back as well. So plenty of contenders that are trying to chase down your San Diego Padres struggles continue for the LA Dodgers, third straight loss yesterday, four to three to the Phillies. Cal Shorber hit a lead off home run. But the Dodgers pitching was continued. They sent Bobby Miller down to the minors. He was supposed to be pretty much. This was the year where he joins the rotation for good and it has not worked out very well. Can you fill me in on what's going on Walker Mueller? Did you see that? I've not seen any Walker Bueller news as of late. He is. He left the Dodgers to go work somewhere else. He's trying to address his issues away from the Dodgers. He was activated from the 15th. It's never good. Say I L on May six. Let's see. Early returns makes bag. Yeah. We saw him. Was great. Place back on the I L. He's away from the team working out his issues while while players don't usually train and practice away from the club's coaches during the season. The Dodgers have backed up his decision. The idea of working at a facility outside the Dodgers organization was Bueller's idea and we're supporting it. Dave Roberts says still no timetable for when he will return. I feel like that's a pretty big story. Don't you? I do. Now do the Dodgers have any choice other than to support their guy and if he feels like it's going to make him better than okay do what you need to do. One of those guys that's that's earned that that ability to do is it even if he has it's still a big red flag. It is. If you don't think your own coaches and the Dodgers who have massive massive coaching resources and organizational resources and you don't think anyone in that organization can help you. You need to go to your own pitching coach at your own facility to try to get right. That's a huge red flag that's like when you need I need to go to my own doctor to get a second opinion after the team doctor says one thing and you don't that's just a sign that you don't trust your own organization. Yeah it's really wild to me and of course it was kind of you know not lost over yesterday in the news. I did see it and I went oh I've got to remember to talk about that tomorrow because it did seem a little odd for me that that he's like no I'm going to I'm going to work through my stuff trust me this is better than you know this is better for everyone if I do. And so yeah pretty interesting story I feel like it would be a big deal if it happened to one of our guys I do I really do. Speaking of interesting baseball stories Eno Saris is going to join us we get our smart baseball weekly segment coming up with Eno get some more thoughts on what's going on around the league that is coming up next with Ben Woods on San Diego's number one sports station 97.3 the fan. Baseball coverage on 97.3 the fan is presented by T-Mobile switch to T-Mobile you can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon use their savings calculator to find out how at T-Mobile dot com slash switch we've got Eno Saris standing by from the athletic or smart baseball weekly segment coming up right after this check traffic on 97.3 the fan. It's time for the super polish just to be named smart baseball weekly segment with Eno Harris Saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the bay in Chula Vista here's Eno Saris with Ben and Woods on 97.3 the fan. So I'm curious about something as we welcome Eno in with Kyle Lagashyoka in studio earlier this week. Guestard no two days ago and he had a home run that night it did now Eno talks to a lot of players we always worry that when we talk to someone but if they have a bad night they're going to like associate it with us and they're going to blame us right Eno do you ever worry about that because you just talked to Logan Webb and he went out and had a really bad game yesterday for the San Francisco Giants I probably should have been focused on pitching and not showing your kid pitching grims you know let's be honest yeah no I mean I do think about it sometimes one thing that I'm blessed with is I don't go into the clubhouse after the game and the reason I say that I'm blessed not to do that is that if they've had a bad game they don't look across the mic at me yes very good point to call very I think I do the most for the most time I think that they talk to so many people that they pick her cat but I do wonder like if I do like a big piece it's about like why they've gotten better or whatever and then they go through a bad stretch the the the reason though that that is always going to happen is that you're going to write about the players that are playing the best yeah and there's just natural you know baseball just naturally there's regression all the time so when we're terrible and then they were great they were the best and baseball in June you know it's like it's just always like that if you write about somebody right when they're doing their best because that's one of their most interesting of course they're gonna they're gonna have some hard time back it does always feel like a jinx you know too because I was in here a couple of days ago and we had Tim Flannery and he told a couple hours of stories that were just brilliant about some of those old Giants teams that you know very well and and I asked him you know do you think do you believe and he goes oh yeah I believe in this team and I'm like brought me to they they deserve a shot man they deserve to go out 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the round table later today but it's something pod raise fans have been talking about for years and years and years and nothing ever changes but we keep talking about it that is should the San Diego pod raise unretire the number six that they retired for Steve Garvey can you unretire a number first of all can't once it's retired well I mean other than your other than like you know murder oh J Simpson now I mean look at every type situation do you ever not doing this again I stepped in this authentically I'm retiring you knew this too by the way how dare you ask this question you knew what happened to me remember I remember he said I don't remember you absolutely do turn the mics I have a very short memory yeah okay ultimately oh I'll say it I think it was a stupid decision in the beginning but I have leading the fifth it's one of my fondest memories right as a pod raise fan a lot of people say that were there was the whole man in 1984 and in game four of the nationally championship series was that the first number when I see the number six even though I look I know Steve Garvey's more of a dodger than a ponter and I know what you're saying Paul that that was the first number they retired that maybe uh was it the I think Dave Winfield maybe was no maybe it was Gar I don't I don't remember it it may have been even before they because they put it up they put the six up at the queue on the wall where the where the home run went out it was almost more like to mark the spot than necessarily is a true full number retirement but it is one of my absolute fondest childhood memories is that home run when they played it when they played it yesterday it's so cool it's crazy I mean it's crazy the Oppo Lee Smith um now of course I'm not a Gar fan anymore he's just he's too much of a dodger for me obviously you know gets gets political now as well 14 years with the dodges remember when he came into the old show of the old station and brought us King so I enrolled yeah I mean that was pretty solid and he made a video for my mom who by the way absolutely loves Steve Garvey has did everybody's mom and uh of course that was a fond memory you know we had just started as a show and he came in and he was great he was great to you know what I think we should retire Jake Kroneworth's number for that double he hit against the dodgers uh well that's retired retired Josh haters number because he struck out the side in the NLCS back in 2022 that was pretty cool we should retire his number I think it's one of the I think it's a really hard question because I don't blame Padres fans who don't feel like it's it fits necessarily you know having Garvey mentioned alongside Tony Gwen and Dave Winfield and Randy Jones there's it's the old Sesame Street one of these things is not like the other and you got to pick the one out of the four that doesn't really match Garvey doesn't really match the other ones I get that I totally get Padres fans who say that it's got to be weird as hell for him too right I would think so to come back to everybody but then again I mean I guarantee you ask him he's a dodger adulations adulations yes he is he's absolutely a dodger which is fine but again it is one of my absolute best Padres memories of my life it was that when you're that age what was I like nine nine and you're just really getting into baseball and all of a sudden your team which is never never been good never made the playoffs in your lifetime or in your dad's lifetime and he's been going to the game since they started yeah all of a sudden they're in the playoffs and they're down two games nothing and no one's surprised they're gonna get swept this is a was a nice little story and then they come back but it looks like it's gonna be over the game you know your your moments away from being eliminated from the Cubs and he steps up and hits that home run it's Smith by the way it's Lee Smith you know it's nasty I love you I love the you know Jake's hit in the beginning against the Dodgers beating him in a playoff series it was amazing there's been many amazing moments in Padres history it's hard not to say that's still not the most amazing incredible moment in Padres history it was a walk-off home run to save them in the nationally championship series and then they went on to go to the World Series the next day I know I'm the franchise history is totally different if he doesn't hit that home run totally different that did it deserve a number retirement I don't know probably probably not but I'm I'm really hesitant to go to the whole length of them unretiring it now that it's retired to me that was putting a big spotlight on the lack of history up until that point which is fine if you didn't have a reason to retire number you shouldn't just come up with one like yeah I think Paulie you make a good point like Tony Gwynne absolutely number but I didn't have Tony Gwynne back then I know but when it when he came in and his career was over I think yeah give him a brainer try to hop give him like the perspective of history and now that you have Trevor and you have Tony and you have more things about your franchise you probably wouldn't have gone back and done that but what a moment that was yeah can you can you put that toothpaste back in the tube I don't know that you can you know unless like you said cut somebody's head off or something you know I there's certainly there's certainly never going to be an unretirement serum oh my god jerry rice cut touchdowns with the Oakland Raiders across the bay they're going to retire his jersey you know Padres fans history though who are advocating for this you have to know they're never going to have a big news conference and announce it's going it's going to be unretired the most you could ever hope for is it's kind of somewhat ignore it a little bit in the future but I don't even think that's going to happen they have a big giant sick statue there as you walk into Pekko Park yeah I wasn't alive when this all happens so maybe my perspective doesn't count but it just seems like at that point they're going we haven't really tired anybody's number yet we've been around for 30 years what are we going to do that's a great opportunity there was an element of that even at the time I could tell there was an element of that to it didn't feel like that slam dunk like other teams when they retire someone's number you know it's usually because they had a long stretch career all their entire career with that team or most of their Hall of Fame career was with that team that wasn't Garve's case it was the end of his career that was spent obviously mostly with your rival Carlos I guess someone stole it the guy that made the original he's we can't find him so we're just gonna he goes into the dead of night we're gonna get cranked around and replacing it one day I'm sure no no it's not we have an unretired crap dude that killed me I got I don't know what happened somebody must just go it grabbed it as a as a memento whether you like it or not Steve Garvey is in a part of pot race history there's that will never change like him or not like him like the fact that the six is there or probably you don't it's never changing that he is always going to be a big part of pot race history and a good part of it as well that's the thing we're not talking about someone who did anything bad that he was this was an awesome thing that he did and he played well for the pot race when he was here he did he absolutely did and you know it's not like we over celebrate things too much in San Diego when it comes to sports you know that we have very few things that we actually can look back on fondly over the last 50 years of sports mostly misery and failure this is one of the really really really good things that happened in San Diego sports but a lot of people just want to kind of shove it under the rug because obviously he also played most of his career with another team oh dare you man how dare you I mean literally I mean it's they didn't even go on to win the world series right right I think that element changes things a little bit too right but again I was six years from being born so yeah you don't I guess I don't get to say anything but I think it's I think it was kind of now here's the other here's the other question that I have from 1984 that's coming into the roundtable so if you could add one player from the 1984 pod race to this pod race team for the last two and a half months of the season who would you pick and keep in mind now you can say Tony Gwen it's I mean obviously you're taking 1984 Tony Gwen who is a batting champion we need a right fielder and you do need a right fielder right now but let's he's just coming back don't you need a pitch pitching more though I want Tony Gwen in right field for this today today would be great you wouldn't want a solid starter like put Eric Shao out there every fifth day no I would take Tony Gwen on Eric Shao every fifth day yes as much as we need pitching give me Tony Gwen all day long all day long it's not even close and then when tatiz comes back what where do we we move Tony yeah move Tony making the dh dh we also have a luisa rise though it's going to be dhs you first place oh which one do you have on the bench Tony Gwen or luisa rise when tatiz comes back put those dudes one and two in the order the pitchers like son of a bitch nothing I can throw like dead you just don't even split him up I just go back to back first third just like that Gwen arise Gwen arise bump the done or arise with done 1984 Tony had a lot of speed I think you put him a man first I'd love it and then you have a rise I would love move Tony first to third that would be that would be pretty devastating that would be pretty nasty dude I I uh but yeah goose wouldn't be the goose won't be the help he wouldn't be the worst pick either he'll go to three whatever you need beat the crap out of the other team if need be like he's he's I'd have to cover him the last couple of months of the year that would be awkward yeah it's a it's an interesting one I'm interested to see what what everyone says on the round table not it's gonna be enough to listen but it's gonna be a draft format so you're not allowed to pick who the last person picked so you know I I assume Tony Gwen's gonna be chosen first I would I'll let I'll let Tony Gwen make the first pick there because presumably he's going to take his dad in that situation which will he's like no Craig lefferts well take care Kennedy great leader what he's your dad right there that was great I love it's not a horrible choice either isn't he I saw it was my man what are you doing is he can I saw is he traded you yeah I don't me and him just don't get a lot but he's a big personality I'm a big personality it doesn't always work he uh I saw Tempe yesterday on the broadcast man and I loved it I loved Tempe so much um listening to him tell some old stories about you know Dick Williams and all the guys it was great I I know people get tired of celebrating a world series loss I was kind of felt that way I didn't live here at the time but when we did that freaking round table last year at at fantasy camp and we listen to all those stories there was nothing like it I could have sat there for another two hours my man Ben moderated the whole thing it was so good and you see these guys and how appreciative they are um of their time here and what it meant to them it was awesome Adam's making fun of me he goes a fifth starter or a first ballot hall of fame Eric Shout 1984 15 wins 3 4 ERA 206 innings pitched I mean that's better I mean we're talking about a front line starter that you could add to your rotation dude I get it was 1984 he wasn't a hall of fame or yet he was only in his like second season batting champion and speedy you said get it I get it I'm all in totally good all right that's all coming up at 10 o'clock in our round table uh next though we've got you know Saris and our eight o'clock hour and more all coming up here with Bennett Woods a 97-3 to fan all right we're halfway home on a Thursday Ben and Woods 97-3 the fan great to be here with you pottery's a bit of a skid right now which we I think probably should have seen coming based on how the season has trended this year you know when win a few lose a few etc etc but listen not gonna and not going to ruin our good time today that's for sure um woodsie that's Paul Rindel he's the executive producer moly poly good morning it's like uh the pottery's like a carousel ride up and down up and down yeah down are we allowed to say that no no no no no amusement park no no do not invoke any sort of ride and any sort of amusement park ever they're like a yo-yo goes no uh uh no and then it goes down and then it goes back up no no no no that's not a ride no no toy no it's can't do that either Ben Higgins you feel like a boomerang they're going forward and then they kind of come around come back it's good metaphor we can use boomerang all right found one it's a rollercoaster yeah sorry Mike I it's a rollercoaster it is you may have it may have been prematurely used earlier this year fair that's a fair point it is now though and and when Mike shilt push to push to push back against it he maybe he was right you were a little early in your college following the season of rollercoaster after a month or so it's not entirely anymore this has been a an absolute rollercoaster ride poly you had the uh you had the stat earlier uh too much more than said it but here is the uh the stretch from the earlier in the season so podrays went five and one then oh and five five and one oh and five 12 and three and now oh and four it's it's as up and down as you're going to get in a baseball season three was like the loop yeah that that's his back and forth is you're going to see in a baseball season yeah you know normally it's going you're going to have up and down stretches every team does but they'll be a little bit softer on the edges you know it'll be six and three and then four and seven and then it'll be eight and four and then it'll be two and five this is very glaring very distinct very easy to see when you go to like an ESPN page and you just have the schedule and you see the W's and L's all in a line they're very much grouped it's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red i thought about it this morning the podrays heartbeat and i thought then's podrays heartbeat i'll do it i'll do it for summer break all right up until next week uh unofficial first half of the season yeah we'll see how it ends against the Braves if you guys missed it we did it last year we gave up on it after like we were a week we were dying but we had uh for wins it was the sound was yes and for losses dang it so when they lost like three in a row dang it dang it dang it so we just played them all together it was like the heartbeat of the podrays and it was was funny as hell and then it got really long we'll get some new ones we'll freshen it up this year we'll do it for the entire first half of the season yeah first half of the season we'll just play it for you guys for our break on summer break it'll be the audio representation of what you can see visually i'm on the page right now the red green red green red green red green all the way through the season red is when they tied red yeah yeah green and red uh yeah next week though on on Ben and Woods as you know we have uh we have summer break here on the program we're still here it's like summer school basically for us we're here there's no games or anything i never had to go to summer school i went to summer school in college just because i wanted to finish because i wasted like two years with no credit so i had to catch up so i had to uh do summer school but we'll do this is like summer school for us because we're we're still here all right is he is he making us is he making us do a round table next week no games i think so is he really yeah this will be our third mid-season report yeah because this week's kind of a mid-season that we did it we did it a couple weeks ago the actual halfway point and then they're playing the round table next to another mid-season round table next week we've got no games that's up to the moderator to come up with new and interesting topics for next week you may be doing this turning summer break maybe we can get actual players like in studio i'm sure i'm sure that's what they want to do on there they'll be flying out on thursday to our cleveland i think to start the second half of the season next friday yeah cleveland yeah another really hard team please don't wash this in in baltimore this month and i don't think i don't think these i'm not saying that these four losses are scheduled necessarily driven but the month of july is a fairly brutal one it's the it's the most brutal remaining month yeah schedule wise for the pod raise they they take on pretty much nothing but good opponents the rest of this month atlanta cleveland washington nationals are great but they're still in the playoff hunt for sure at baltimore and then the dodgers that's the rest of this month those are first place teams to get cleveland baltimore los angeles first place teams you got wild card leaders in the braves and a wild card contender in washington then in august it it definitely gets a little bit tinder you got rocky series miami series rocky series pittsburgh may or may not still be you know going forward at that point we'll see what they do at the trade demo you get two series against pittsburgh it's not nearly as tough in august as it is in july but july is a very brutal stretch for the san ego pod raise schedule wise yeah it's tough so next week we'll be in here uh on summer break you will be you know doing the recaps of the year but there's anything you guys uh want to talk about next week that's just when we really get a chance to explore the space we could get really freaky in here if we wanted to you know what i mean it's kind of hope we do like freaky we could get we can do whatever we want we have the empty canvas here basically then you get a tattoo on here that would be amazing what will you do would you do that then we'll come up with some ideas no i don't not i do not want a tattoo what if it's just like a little circle like like a like a mole like on your leg one of your moles like on your hip even like so we're like sexy right here on your hip that's sexy little spot on your hip guarantee somebody's a tattoo artist all right i'm going to what i love to come i'm going to come i'm going to come fully clean as well okay i don't endure pain very well and i know that there are people who really find the process of getting the tattoo painful why did you say that like it was some big secret that we didn't already know my wife does not she is very she's sitting they call it sitting well she sits parts of the body where it won't hurt it yeah well finally it gets bought that you're not going to affect your tv career i know it's not well i'm not going to get you the mike tyson it would have to be some spider web around your neck it would have to be somewhere where i can't see it right because it would bother me to see it i'd keep trying to rub it off i don't like what i like it's even there if someone ever you know you know people write on their hands like a note yeah even if it washes off that but it creeps me out like writing on my skin so to have permanent writing my skin i think would really bother me carlos says get sd fat loss on your lower back like a tramp stamp sd fat loss i'll get eco water across my chest sd fat loss around your like a tramp said would be amazing is that term offensive these days i think it is then getting tattooed on the air live on the air would be pretty amazing yeah let's just i mean i would do it i would do it but it's not as if you would bother me you know that would bother i heard this up here really really hurts my buddy got ribs like all up and down the ribs and he said i want to get actual ribs tattooed on my ribs like baby back ribs baby back ribs on my ribs could i take can you tattoo like a six pack of abs yeah you can do that they could shade it in they could shade it in yeah it's listen summer break it's uh it's anything goes probably do some drinking on the air next week for sure got to find the new drink of the summer we did the sunny d seltzer last year oh yeah what phenomenal what is this year was phenomenal absolutely it was so good uh so we did that last year we'll have some fun yeah with that next week's gonna be real loosey on venom woods as if it's not normally so it's normally a really tight ship take this tight ship take this tight ship and you'll lose it out to the middle of nowhere well listen man this team doesn't give us a hell of a lot to uh to talk about of days like today this is what it is joey says we can bend in woods tattoos no that's his kiss of death it's kiss of death i would get our show logo tattooed like that you can't i'm gonna cherish this moment you know cherish it too but of my life forever but what if it went really bad as radio shows often do and you're like they want that way the high is that isn't that the the fear anytime you get a tattoo of anything no it's no longer going to be meaningful to you in four years no but it's the it begs the question would you do megan's name hannah's been after me for 10 years i'm on our third day she's like you need to get my name tattooed i'm like you're out of your mind i literally just got divorced i'm not getting some of these names i would do something for her i don't know that i would just do her names but like i've thought about something like in her handwriting i think is a cool idea like what i don't know like i love you or something or something from our wedding vows or something like that why not our name property of megan lawful property what yeah i mean yeah i wouldn't yeah okay everyone's digging the little holes this morning i feel like on this program none bigger than you my friend very very very true ooh a calf sleeve would look good on me i think i'd rather have a piercing than a tattoo we can make that happen i can absolutely make that happen today or i've stopped hold on i'm number one i'm blown away yeah where i don't know by the way here and you won't get attacked maybe yeah i'm like ed Bradley yeah you use a tattoo because of the pain man i i know ed Bradley bed then would be ed Bradley would you but would they make you take it out on check they can't they can't make you take it out on channel 10 to get your nipple pierced wow that sounds really painful woods my tiny little bit you guys have a lot of service area i don't i have one tiny little thing i want a little bar yes a little bar and then you see it through my t-shirt every morning would you be repulsed if you looked over and you saw the little bar and repulsed i love them on women a big fat but men a little different but i a little nose ring for you feel like that would hurt a lot i think they all heard i think they all heard he won't do a tattoo because of the pain do you know what a prince albert is yeah all right you ever thought about that no all right you think of the spot and i'll make that yeah we'll make it happen the ear please get an earring oh this is a life crisis i can see it coming on him i can see it i can smell it and it's gonna be such good content you pea we pierce his ear on a monday by tuesday he's got leather jacket oh the core of her bed we'll start looking at that when i get back next week how about that after the show we'll start looking at core beds i like that i said i don't see me with a nose ring a ring just that yeah it may the stuff do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we definitely not belly button is i don't really have to worry i don't really have a belly button so i can't get it pierced dad man i am dead tongue one of those clickers yeah you just sit down the whole so click click click click nightmare yeah you have to do it uh okay as if you had an earring would it be like a diamond stud or would it be a dangling barry box dangling i don't think i'd like that would bother me like a deck what if it was like a dangling golf ball i wouldn't want to feel it it was like a dangling golf ball no a golf ball stud it'd be like a tea a tea for what golf golf oh golf tee i think no no not the letter tee golf tee the plugs like really drag is here out drag it out like the holes yeah the what are those called spacers bugs that plugs out there i mean you just tell me when i'll make it happen a little diamond would look really cool like them yeah all right summer break never know what might happen let's go to break right now though all right let's take time out we get you know serus on the way at the bottom of the hour stay tuned for that that's one of my favorite segments of all time he's like i'm not going to get a tattoo i would get a piercing though excuse me i am just saying yeah and in the chat if you made me choose between the two gauges is what they're right i mean you can always take out the piercing at some point and it goes away tattoo you can't it's it never goes away true i think that's part of it just get garvey and number six that's part of the equation for me so all right other baseball games yesterday we got an update got very tight tightening wild card race in the national we'll get to that coming up to check traffic here at 97.3 the fan speaking of earrings just as the conversation turned in our last segment um i just got this in and i'm brought it in the the louise campo sono uh pin that they're giving away this sunday theme game ticket actually has a dangling earring from campy's ear it's actually part of the pin i don't know if you can see it right there it's that cross uh earring that's actually part of the pin they also will be giving away the no-no joe pin series as well you do need a theme game ticket that sunday's game against the atlanta braves on the fourteenth uh tickets are still available uh even for the theme game as well i'm always intrigued by those theme game giveaways because while the the ones that are for everyone like the hat yesterday fantastic kind of special when you're like one of the few who get like the limited edition stuff but you do have to like take the extra step of signing up and getting one of the theme game tickets and if you're a pin collector and i know they have the fernando one they've had the series going on you don't want to miss out this sunday for the uh the latest offering i wanted to go to i wanted to buy a theme game ticket for the marrow christmas shirt i want it but when i went to go i was gonna go buy the tickets and when i went to buy them it said they're only available and and medium and large i think oh that's the only size is left or that's the only size they have you kind of squeeze me into a large jacks and marrow shirts the overcooked hot dog in the microwave just folding out of the top you've lost weight you ain't fitting no no chance and also ballpark largest down finally down to extra large ball park larges some t-shirts ball park larges are different they're smaller than regular larges so as much as i want that jacks and marrow shirt i can't wear it in a large that's a bummer i like that shirt a lot though i like it a lot i was gonna buy one on ebay or something but um not if they don't have an excel now i'm seeing on the chat that they say it's medium or extra large not medium or large i'll say the two choices are medium or excel okay i'll take an excel that's better all right so i might i want but you wash it once and then it's then it's this guy like what's up yeah right so i'm gonna hang dry it over here i think the worst t-shirts are the ones when you put your arms over your head that they pull up above your belly that's the that is the worst worst dude i hate it as i just sucked down a donut uh in here so you tell i'm very concerned about it so i know i'm always the the good news merchants yes you're trying to spin bad days into good and i don't have much for you today here's what i've got pottery's actually picked up a half game on the st louis cardinals in the wild cards race yes not the worst good news you've ever delivered the cardinals actually lost twice yes that's right kansas city royals they were swept in a double header so the potteries didn't lose ground to everybody in the national league playoff chase unfortunately a couple of the teams that are more concerning that are right behind them are gaining ground and gaining ground fast the new york matt speak to washington nationals six to two and don't look now but the matt's are a game above five hundred and just a half game behind the san diego potteries for the third and final wild card spot in the national league and that of course is a team that pretty much has unlimited resources good point man very very good point one of the teams we talked about yesterday that we buried they were done they were training everybody max fans buried their own team after like three weeks of the season italian paul was like despondent when he filled in for paul he was you guys are going to kill us this weekend we got smoked and they went on a run and they've stayed on a run and they like you said unlimited resources to do whatever they want and uh yeah super fun they've kind of rallied around the uh the lim dor all-star snub not getting in and uh taking some momentum here into the all-star break and uh the arizona diamondbacks of course it just took two or three from the potteries they beat the Braves yesterday seven to six and the defending nationally champions are just a game and a half back in that wild card race so there are plenty of contenders still as we head toward the break and the trade deadline and i would say if you had two teams behind you that i was most worried about those are the two because of the Mets resources and the diamondbacks having already had the success from last season like the the knowledge that they can and have done it makes them a little bit more dangerous than say the pirates or the reds or the nationals or some of the other teams that are that are still in contention yeah you know three you know three or four games back what about the giants giants yeah i mean that you know i'm a little worried about them if you know blake snell gets healthy then piece second half blake snell you know they got a Harrison Logan web that's pretty nasty on my list they did lose to the the blue jays 10 to 6 logan web gave up seven runs yesterday so they've just never been able to truly get on a roll this season but they're not out of it they're they're only like three three back as well so plenty of contenders that are trying to chase down uh your San Diego Padres struggles continue for the LA Dodgers third straight loss yesterday uh four to three to the Phillies Cal schwarver had a lead off home run uh but the Dodgers pitching woes continue they sent Bobby Miller down to the miners he was supposed to be pretty much this was the year where he joins the rotation for good and it has not worked out very well can you fill me in on what's going on Walker Bueller did you see that i did not see any Walker Bueller news as of late he is he left the Dodgers to go work somewhere else uh he's trying to address his issues away from the Dodgers he was activated from the 15th let's never good side day IL on May 6th uh let's see early returns mixed bag yeah we saw him it was great replaced back on the IL she's away from the team working out his issues well while players don't usually train and practice away from the club's coaches during the season the Dodgers have backed up his decision the idea of working at a facility outside the Dodgers organization was Bueller's idea and we're supporting it Dave Roberts says still no timetable for when he will return i feel like that's a pretty big story don't you i do now would do the Dodgers have any choice other than to support their guy and if he feels like it's gonna make him better than okay do what you need to do one of those guys that's that's earned that that ability possibly is it even if he has it's still a big red flag it is if you don't think your own coaches and the Dodgers who have massive massive coaching resources and organizational resources and you don't think anyone in that organization can help you you need to go to your own pitching coach at your own facility to try to get right that's a huge red flag that's like when you need i need to go to my own doctor to get a second opinion after the team doctor says one thing and you don't that's just a sign you don't trust your own organization yeah it's really wild to me and of course it was kind of you know not glossed over yesterday in the news i did see it and i went oh i've got to remember to talk about that tomorrow because it did seem a little odd for me that that he's like no i'm gonna i'm gonna work through my stuff trust me this is better than you know this is better for everyone if i do and so yeah pretty interesting story i feel like it would be a big deal if it happened to one of our guys i do i really do speaking of interesting baseball stories Eno Saris is gonna join us we get our smart baseball weekly segment coming up with Eno get some more thoughts on what's going on around the league that is coming up next with Benewoods on San Diego's number one sports station 97-3 the fan baseball coverage on 97-3 the fan is presented by T-Mobile switch to T-Mobile you can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon use their savings calculator to find out how at t-mobile.com/switch we've got Eno Saris standing mine from the athletic or smart baseball weekly segment it's coming up right after this check in traffic on 97-3 the fan it's time for the super polished just to be named smart baseball weekly segment with Eno Harris Saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the bay in Chula Vista here's Eno Saris with Benewoods on 97-3 the fan so i'm curious about something as we welcome Eno in um with Kyle Higashioka in studio earlier this week gester no two days ago and he had a home run that night it did now Eno talks to a lot of players we always worry that when we talk to someone that if they have a bad night they're gonna like associate it with us and they're gonna blame us right Eno do you ever worry about that because you just talked to Logan Webb and and he he went out and had a really bad game yesterday for the San Francisco Giants. Guy probably should have been focused on pitching and not showing your kid pitching grips you know let's be honest yeah no i mean i do think about it sometimes one thing that i'm blessed with is i don't go into the clubhouse after the game and the reason i say that i'm blessed not to do that is that if they've had a bad game they don't look across sea of Mike at me yes very good point to call very i think i think to the most for the most time i think that they talk to so many people that they pick her cat but i do wonder like if i do like a big piece it's about like why they've gotten better or whatever and then they go through a bad stretch the the the reason though that that is always going to happen is that you're going to write about the players that are playing the best yeah and there's just natural you know baseball just naturally there's regression all the time so i went away to Astros were terrible and then they were great they were the best in baseball and june you know it's like it's just always like that so if you write about somebody right when they're doing their best and because that's one of their most interesting uh of course they're gonna they're gonna have some hard time back it it does always feel like a jinx you know too because i was in here a couple of days ago and we had Tim Flannery and he told a couple hours of stories that were just brilliant about some of those old Giants teams that you know very well and um and i asked him you know do you think do you believe and he goes oh yeah i believe in this team and i'm like brought me to they they deserve a shot man they deserve to go out and get a starter in a bullpen maybe another bat whatever they need this team has really earned it and then you know a couple of clunkers in a row driving into work this morning going i wonder what we could get for dill and cease you know what i mean it's just this stupid stupid nature of a baseball season yeah but they are a decent team and i like that they make so much contact and i think we're really would it hide though on offense is that they do way better when they hit power for power as well um i think was it last night they had six singles or something yeah seven hit six singles i think i think that's right yeah and it's just hard to live like that i know you know uh you know i love mud and i love the the announcers but i hear this from other people that like you know it is a hit and you know just get on base but and you can string together hits it's just really hard to string together hits in today's environment you just think about the batting average now is the worst it's been since like 1968 the year of the pitcher so uh you get six singles you get zero runs for it you know it's like it is pretty hard actually to string together a bunch of singles and so you know that's why i think you know many getting right and he's looks better and the taty's coming back um that's enough where you're like okay this this offense can hear y'all you know saris is with us and i yesterday you know you and a couple of your colleagues from the athletic post to the story about the the 10th anniversary of stat cast the birth of what has become at least for me an integral part of watching baseball i mean i can't even imagine now watching a pot raise game without going and checking the exit velocity of that last hit and uh you know who's throwing hard the speeds and velocities how has the game changed based on this information that is now not just available to the you know the teams that are have advanced metrics but now everybody can go and see these numbers and they're posted right instantly online uh during every single game you can follow along uh just like i was doing last night with the pot raise mariners game yeah for that piece i talked to mike petriello who did like an alternate stat cast edition uh of games early on where he you know they they broadcast with Eduardo Perez um and they they had david konon sometimes and um you know jason bonetti and they and they would do these games where it was like more static focused and he said you know that's coming back and we're going to do some this year and i'm nervous because now every broadcast has this stuff in it and the regular sunday night baseball has Eduardo Perez and david konon and and they took our producer that was producing the stat cast and they just made him the producer of the sunday night baseball so it's like that's how ubiquitous has become is that like now the guy who used to be the nerd on you know doing the nerd cast um has to figure out how to become even nerdier and i think that actually is a good way to kind of think about how it's changed the game ever that the nerdiness level has like gone through the roof and you know even if uh someone said to me like i don't care about this sort of stuff i talked to tyler glass now and he was like yes i look at it i look at the movement i look at everything i i look at other people's stuff i i i care about it it's helped me in my career and then james Paxton sitting right next to him said i i i can look at a pitch and know if it's good but even james Paxton knows about like naming conventions for movement he knows about inverted vertical frets he just he's decided he doesn't care about it you know what i mean like so it's come to the point where everybody knows this stuff it's everywhere um and i think the more successful players uh embrace it and use it to their benefit jadie martina has just joined the Mets and um he when he arrived he changed the way the hitting reports were coming through from the hitting coach um after a couple weeks and he he literally brought weighted bats to the team and and distributed them to other players and show them how how to use them and um so you know that's the kind of there are these ambassadors uh that that know even more than the average player in our sort of proselytizing the data you know you know it's funny thinking about jadie martinez who is a somebody we talked about in the off season certainly the pod race were um probably interested along with a bunch of other teams coming in and i mean if you're the hitting coach with the new york man's isn't that eric shavaz yeah yeah he's like oh all right cool you bring it like you know what i mean but then i just saw you retweeted the story we just talked about before we got yawn about walker bueller who's like all right see you guys later i'm off to florida to go work at cressy sports performance uh instead of working with mark pryer and the los angeles dodgers who i'm assuming have every single gizmo gadget metric that one could ever want well i think one part is that it's um it would be it's a little difficult i think sometimes to really revamp anything or work on stuff um in a competitive environment so it would have been hard for him to do it between starts with mark pliers right now on the dodgers i guess you could i l him but then you technically are supposed to send him to somewhere you know you it's rare to i l someone and he stays with the dodgers right you know so uh maybe his choice was do i go down to oklahoma city you know and work with people there um or do i go over there cressy and i think the modern players also empowered by the fact that uh there's all these independent labs pitching labs now um that they have their own contractual arrangements with and they can maybe feel some ownership over their own coaching um you know by by doing this so they can go to dry land and go to tread they can go to um they can go to cressy and and and they feel like they um are getting what they want and when i when i talk to uh people that are coaches or or people in in front offices about this um they were they they struggle with it you know they're annoyed because they would rather the player got the coaching that they want him to get right they they they they know the right coaching um and there's different approaches to how to deal with that some some um front offices do something that's kind of cool i i talked to one front office they said oh we don't like we don't love teacher man teacher man's the guy who's errant judges um yeah i've heard a lot about that guy man oh my god he's so arrogant he's so arrogant i think he really has like one good idea but i don't think he has every good idea you know um and so and it worked for judge doesn't mean it's going to work for everybody else judges pretty unique in terms of you know size strength quick this yeah yeah so um you know so somebody was working with them and they didn't really love everything but what they did was they had their hitting coach take teacher man's course so they knew what teacher man was about and what he talked about so he could speak teacher man's language to this player they invited teacher man to spring to talk to the player and to other players and just made it seem like hey we're cool with them if that's what you believe and that's what you're into like we're gonna we're gonna support you in that but when the kid went through a stretch where he was over 20 or something he was a little more receptive to their own coach makes sense yeah and so they they wanted they that's the struggle right now it's like how do i make it cool for you to go to air cressy but also i want you to do some art prior that's that's kind of the the line people are walking right now smart baseball with you know serris every thursday here with Ben woods and i think when we talk about the numbers you know and and you've kind of mentioned this before and so for some people it's too much they get overwhelmed by all the stats and they say i just want to go by feel but your brain fools you if you throw a good pit if you throw a pitch and someone swings and misses your brain's gonna tell you i just threw a good pitch but you don't know that's true that's absolutely the batter may have just taken a bad swing at it for no reason what so ever and the numbers will actually kind of tell you which pitches are the better ones if you can take your brain out of the equation sometimes is that is that really what the statistical revolution here in baseball is about i think so i mean that you know i think the opposite is is the one that's really happens even more which is that a pitcher of throws a pitch that's pretty good but one of the first times you throw that someone the anchor for a homer uh and then they never throw that pitch again and you're like dude that is a pretty good pitch and that's why it can be good to have something like stuff plus this curve like ranks of the best here here are the cops you know oh this curve looks like this guy's curve and this guy those guys curves are good right like throwing in please you know um you know so there's some of that which there's also some of like when a player is really struggling and you can come to them and say hey you know what you're barreling the ball your barrel rate is is on par with this guy's your your your eggs or losses are fine like you just you just just need to chill out and like the hits will come you know so the numbers can do a lot of different things they don't have to be overwhelming they don't have to be negative um and one thing that i do think is as a fan you were allowed you or i i don't begrudge anybody their opinion about how they want to consume the sport i understand that and i think that the best um the best broadcast teams the best you know the best shows um try to really meld you know what is happening on the field is what has happened historically the the stories people love stories from back in the fit day um and then just sort of gently fold in some of stats so that you don't necessarily have to report the eggs of velocity on every homer but if somebody tonight hit the hardest hit homer of the year or ever for the Padres or something that's when you sort of say it you know i mean like you don't have to do it for every single one you don't have to you don't have to really shoehorn it in these numbers have spoke to tell a story you know it's interesting too i was watching uh i think it was the something on apple tv maybe i can't remember frank war uh francey was on there and he yeah he kept calling people that like stats about pencil next the whole night oh those are those pencils next pencil next stats pencil next i'm like all right this is a huge broadcast featuring two great teams pencil neck pencil neck pencil neck and i'm like oh my god and he's he's not an old guy i mean he's not he's not you know this isn't goose goshage here and i'm i'm listening this going all right now i i there needs to be more of a happy medium you know there really does yeah um i just i thought that was i i don't know if you had heard that yeah i i think i think mud does a great i think they do a great job i'm looking down do a great job and they're not they're not the nerdiest that i've ever had you know one of my favorite broadcasts is is john miller and john miller is he's not like a big stack guy but i also love boog shiambi yes um you know with the cobs and he he folds more stats in um you know Jason benendy with the white socks so there are different ways to be great just like there are different ways to be great as a as a as a baseball player and that's why i like these stats is because you can highlight so many different cool things about a player yeah this guy's like one of the five fastest players in big leagues you know this guy and you can do it a little bit more precision um i think then then without it and i don't know you can also just express regret at like the way that baseball has become very sort of uh walking of last you know sort of yeah more focused on power and and we've got three two outcomes like that's that has come from analysis but my component my my retort is you know that's not the analyst fault they're just trying to help their team win the game it's not the pencil next fault they're all they're they're working for teams and trying to help players get better that's my passion is player development you know trying to help players get better they're trying to help their team win the if you don't like where this is going then you should you should be pro the the kind of rule changes that baseball is making that's the reason i'm making those rules changes is to incentivize teams to to want the single again you know enjoy your all-star break i will chat with you again as we get the second half started and uh you will always appreciate everything you've done first half of the season was great thank you so much we'll talk to you not next week we'll give you the week yeah we call second the first week of the second half we'll have you back in two weeks all right thanks god unless we get in a pitch yeah you know just call you keep your phone on but just you know still might get attacked we'll see you know sarah smart smart baseball brought to you by seven mile casino and he said something and he always has some nugget that that i grab onto and it's so simple but as we've been talking about the pot raise and the roller coaster of the season and maybe this isn't as unexpected as it as it feels because when we start talking about how well they're playing and get excited of course they're about to turn because there there's only one way you can go when you've won 12 of 15 that's not gonna last forever unless you're the greatest team in baseball history you're about to hit a rut and when they've lost four or five in a row and everything seems bleakest that's not gonna last either and of course they're gonna start winning and things are going to turn around again because that's just the nature of of life that you know things change and our attention gets focused when teams are either playing well or struggling but it's because it's probably about to change and go the other direction let's hope the pot raise are about to change and go the other direction again that's exactly what's been been happening all season long and we'll see if that continues Paulie's got the round the report coming up next final hour before the round table on the fan so there's a debate going on in the chat right now my our buddy michael says that the numbers are turning fans off the game the younger fans and then tony says our kims advanced metrics generating any value and i think the answer to that is yes i think absolutely 100% they are i mean we were talking about how son kim's value earlier in the day and you know he's what ninth in f4 for short stops and ninth by short stop in in the league according to f4 so i think yeah i mean that can help build value uh potentially and somebody that maybe the casual fan now listen when you're talking about trading people there are no casual gms you know kevin the kevin towers of the world are gone it doesn't exist you won't get the job if you're like no see to their pants no dude none there nobody goes there's like how do i tell a good baseball player oh listen i can hear a good baseball i can hear it i can smell it i smell it in him i look in his eyes i know it means no confidence that's right bro there's that doesn't exist anymore okay so every single gm knows how to create value out of whatever player they have conversely every other gm that they're dealing with knows how to take some of that value away it's quite an art form now there is value beyond the numbers and if you don't acknowledge that then you're missing some of the greatness of the game there are players who are more than just the sum of their numbers wouldn't you agree with that yeah they're you know chemistry character you know make up some makeup grit whatever you want to call it still a good thing to have in a baseball player you know but you can't ignore the numbers either just because you like a guy's grit or makeup correct they have to also produce there is a balance there for sure and there is still a place in the game for some of those old school evaluation there's no question but there's no way you can just ignore the numbers and go with your gut the problem is is i don't see a lot of the the numbers people you know there needs to be a mutual respect between both that's what i've always said there's got to be a little bit of this a little bit of that and you know you're a little bit of luck your brain lies to you oh 100 percent it will it will reinforce what you already believe if you think hasan kim is a good ball player then you'll remember his line drive yep you'll remember the diving plays that he makes and you'll kind of ignore some of the errors and some of the slumps if you think hossan kim isn't a good short stop then you'll ignore some of the good plays that he makes and you'll remember all the errors your brain wants to reinforce what you already believe that's what the numbers can do they can tell you my brain's been tricking me a little bit i didn't think hossan kim kim was quite that good how many times have we gone and pulled up some of these page went wow i was okay all right i was completely wrong i guess he's not striking out all the time i take take louise campusana early in the season a lot of praise for campy hitting you know 300 getting tons of hits but if you went to his stat cast page you would have seen that it was a bit of a mirage that the balls weren't being hit hard that they weren't barreled up and that likely if he continues on this path things will regress and he'll go into a slump when the balls don't fall in well guess what happened exactly that sometimes it is a telling indicator of the future that the numbers that you're seeing that are actually producing which are important you want obviously you have to actually produce on the field but you can say man but this isn't necessarily something that's sustainable correct sustainable in 162 game season is of the utmost importance is what i'm doing sustainable if it is great you know i'm gonna have my ups i'm gonna have my downs if i'm just hitting ass out flares into right field and getting knocks on them it's not going to last for 162 it may not last for six and part of what jerks and pro far has said this year is that he is finally just trusting his game not worrying so much when there's a bad game or a slump doesn't need to tinker with anything yeah yeah just just trust just trust yeah numbers say i'm decent player guess what i'm just gonna trust it and move forward and that can be hard to do because we all when things aren't going well think we need to do something and make changes and if we're not we feel like we're not if you're not doing our job lazy we're not doing our job but sometimes the right thing to do it's nothing leave it alone leave it alone just like the rinder report just leave it alone let him do his thing do your thing poly and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rindel report now tuned it to the mother greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 though fad are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good all right morning gentlemen morning buddy how are we doing good good let's see got a couple of stories here for you we will start off in the world of baseball baseball media side story yesterday how do you guys feel about peat rows where you guys add on peat rows in 2024 love the player the person's not my favorite i mean if if you know if i'm being completely honest like i read some stuff about it yesterday because i know where you're going here and i read an article yesterday i went yeah i'd forgotten most of this uh under age 15 year old girl in Cincinnati you know that he had a long long relationship she's 15 years old he was playing for the rats it's not good it's not good not asking him to babysit my kids anytime soon no but he i love the player but i also he's he's a polarizing he's a polarizing cat you know one of the best hitters of all time not in the hall of fame and i just i remember watching him as a kid and be like god dang that guy that guy gives it you know charlie also you get that nickname and uh and then i remember vividly the betting the scandals they came and i just remember sitting like the sports center was still fairly new back then i just remember being riveted and being like oh my god march shot peat rows the betting it was incredible well yesterday hbo announced a four-part documentary watching every second you will okay every effing second that's what i was getting at it's a four four part documentary on the life and career of peat rows it's called charlie hustle in the matter of peat rows every second of it it will air on wednesday the 24th and thursday july 25th two episodes each day so you'll have it you know done in 48 hours and uh yeah i was reading it along here a little bit uh fascinating portrait of a complex individual full of contradictions one seeking redemption but not not quite ready for full atonement he will not he will like won't they told him back then just apologize he's like no we can we can make this work just apologize no contrition uh might give anybody else everyone wants redemption but redemption requires some contrition spread introspection and contrition and she's never really totally been able to do uh huh there's and what he has you've had to absolutely force out of him like like squeeze over like deck yes just squeeze like a drop of contrition out of peat rows has been the hardest thing in the world like my six-year-old uh interviewed in the film and the four-part documentary peat rows isn't it of course he's not an executive producer so i don't know how much say he had in like the final cut or anything like that but he isn't it his son peat rows juniors in it mike smit kangripy senior uh at waterperess al michaels marty brandon and john miller so a lot of big names and uh yeah they've got all the descriptions out for each four all four of the episodes here's uh he's a pretty he's it's a prime example of art artist yeah that's it prime example here's a little bit of trailer see if it sells you if you're not if you're on the fence about it or not this was baseball's Watergate one of the game's greatest players has stained the game the cirrhosis accepted baseball's ultimate section lifetime and eligibility till this day i don't think they had evidence would have lasted in court about me bet on baseball you don't appreciate you being reinstated he has to participate and show that he wants it i went baseball and peat rows to be friends so i can say i'm not an outsider looking in what he did for me was invaluable pizza's own worst enemy should peat rows be in the hall of fame integrity still matters Shakespeare what i don't feel they would destroy oh it has been on baseball they dropped banks and i was wrong by not coming clean originally but i played the game right so we're telling because i got to go make a bet no i'm just kidding yeah the betting is the betting but the the the other story is really gnarly and and um he did have the greatest quote i've ever heard i'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball i watched Ken Burns baseball when that came out and of all the quotes that stuck with me forever is i would walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball and i went got me what stuck with me about that trailer was when he said to this day i don't think they had evidence that would have held up in a courtroom doesn't matter even you later in the trailer admit well i did that i did come clean i did do it who cares what specific evidence they had against you you knew you did it they knew you did it and you tried to make everyone think that you didn't do it mmm so tough well i'm probably gonna watch i'm watching every second of it every second that's in a couple of weeks uh also saw this clip making the rounds yesterday some sports radio fun uh this didn't remind me of anyone in particular that i know for sure but uh michael k from wf a n or no he's espium one thousand i think out there where's michael is is he on the wf a n he's on the yes now yes network and 98.7 esp and esp ok so the other the new york sports radio out there and uh they got a guy named mike from new jersey call in and uh i'll just let this clip play for itself michael k just goes off on this sports radio caller and you will never big michael k will never criticize the Yankees probably hang up on me but never you want me you know i check off you want me to hang up you know i'm not gonna hang up on you i'm gonna let you spoon your nonsense all i do is sit here and criticize the eighties every day are you are you hard of hearing are you hard of hearing mike what do you say about food what do you say about i tell you he is managing and no no you're a met fan or a fan you have met fan or a fan what are you you're a fan i have said that boone acts in concert with the front office i'm giving you reasons what's going on i have said over and over they have a chance of falling out of the postseason what do you want me to do i don't understand what you want me to do mike don't find it somewhere else don't find it somewhere else mike tell me who's saying stuff like this you hang up michael you'll hang up again you want but you want me to hang up on you you clown you want me to hang up on you i am going to let you bury yourself i'm not going to hang up on you you deserve to be exposed to the moron go continue to go you've got the radio go mike go g man it's it's it's uncanny it's it's like adding a new york accent to a certain host that we know very well and of course mean any hombre any hombre just like her just like any i said nobody i mean yeah the only thing you didn't say was dude i don't say it twice i said it twice dude erin boone's got to go i said it twice dude uh how bad would it suck to live in new york if you were a fan of one of those teams and you still had to cover the other team because they're they have that all over like one that one guy sells like a Yankee or a met fan and then michael kate is obviously you know works for the Yankees but like no i think the Mets should trade so it's a of course you do you're a yank you're a Yankee fan you bum and you're only tough to maintain your credibility if you are a fan of one of the horrible horrible but you don't want to just be mr neutral like you can't i'm not a fan of either of the Yankees or the Mets right simply an impartial observer of the whole thing you're a bomb whatever twice i don't say it twice dude i say you're hearing one i said you're hearing what i said put the other one on that there is no other one that's it well this man but we heard was you on the board bro i don't give a what you heard i'm sending you what was said whatever you think you heard i don't care damn dude like you're out of your mind i give you the evidence i'm giving you the evidence that's what was said on the radio that's what was said like are you kidding i gave you what i said i didn't say it again hey your brain plays tricks on you that woods brings you the stat cast numbers of what was actually said yeah okay i just sent you on you can't trust your own brain sometimes yeah there was uh any money says i've never heard such an aggressive dude in my life before adam this sounds like every phone call i have with with steve woods yeah oh my god maybe adam and i have had some bangers bangers uh on the phone yeah you're a little passionate it's all right don't say it twice dude so good identical michael k identical that's great i saw that yesterday i was like oh probably brings that with us michael k is a bootlicker i think when you work for a team there's always a fine line you have to walk i appreciate and i respect listen dude a guy like jesse agler yeah who will give us honest opinion oh yes but of course he can't simply just come on and just trash everything about the team sure you know he's team employee he's you know on the pot raise payroll but he also is not going to lie to you about the tea i believe jesse will not he will not tell lies about the sandy pottery now he may not he may not accentuate some of the negative sometimes which i totally understand but he's not going to just bald face lie and say the pot raise are are red when you know that they're blue bent it the funny part about this job and when you when you hear stuff like that and i've got that before so you're telling me then whoever you are mike and you work at quokom you you are you're an engineer you walk into your ceo's office and you're like you're a bum ruining this country you suck you're a loser i just tell it like it is bro i'm no bootlicker like everybody has a boss everybody on the planet they act like media guys don't like we don't have a boss or sometimes and it's like bro i can't you know i can't go nuclear all the time i went nuclear on that guy because that guy was calling me a liar but we've always said on the show you're gonna get how you're genuinely feeling genuinely some days the pot raise losses devastate me some days like today when i'm going on vacation i'm like it's not my problem i'll watch tomorrow i'm into it it's never your problem it's not my problem but holy smoke we can't fix them yeah i can't fix them well we're up against the clock so i i had a hi hey hey i don't we don't need to get to it you just want to skip what the best part of the day all right tease it and we'll come back yeah just be careful yeah we're gonna be very careful just think about it over the break how you want to handle this if you're really going in that direction you guys want to google he's the couple in georgia and a margarita that does not want to do this you can think about this think twice either way we're gonna give away some john fogordy tickets when we come back as well and don't forget the roundtable is coming up at the top of the hour all ahead and woods' vacation is about 43 minutes away right here on san diego's number one sports station back after traffic here at 97.3 the fam i'd be very careful yeah little ears maybe turn the time again for the little ears yeah does that include me mature this is like kind of a little ear here i want you to hear every one here every second a tour with the tour uh there was a viral clip going around on the social medias yesterday now this actually happened a couple of months ago but police just found out about it after the video went viral and i believe the woman involved it may have ratted on herself like turned herself in but um there was a couple in georgia waycross georgia they're a couple yes they know each other joe and mary joe boyette and mary sweat that turned him boyette and sweat in the mornings here in georgia this boyette and sweat thanks for tuning in brave that head in the san diego to take it on the pot raise they are facing charges for an act that they committed at uh rodeo mexican restaurants okay and waycross rodeo mexican restaurant i bet it's so good too text mex we're thinking here it's georgia so no even worse southern mex just rodeo okay go ahead adam's lurking outside the studio like is he just gonna run in and fold a plug any point i mean he's not listening do you need us do you need us okay are we good okay i guess he's not listening so the video which you can pretty much see pretty pretty clearly what's happening uh she didn't put it in the chat or no no no she was mary don't understand this kind of hiking up her dress yep the dress goes up and then everything is exposed and she's in a booth on the honor knees right with a rear end out right and uh what's joe joe boyette took a picture of margarita then uh just to clear it up i don't think this was a frozen frozen it was uh it was just mixed a mixed margarita on the rocks yes and he's got the picture and on a funnel and uh funnel he used tried to use the funnel to drink the margarita after he had poured it down that's it okay that's it even i know what i know you're heading here yeah Brandon in the chat stop stop beating around the bush i said hey man we're on radio still this isn't just on youtube so i've heard the the expression that's used when you when you drink an alcoholic drink but not through the normal orifice right as it were the blank chug right right and i i this is not that this is more like a luge then i've never totally understood the concept necessarily yeah well what is the funnel for well the funnel didn't work so he threw the funnel away okay and it just went to the luge or it's like the the luge the back of the so they were arrested for what indecent exposure all kinds of stuff really a real big mess get arrested for excessive sticky mess in a booth a luge i need you to isolate yourself saying luge wasting a perfectly good picture of margaritas i mean drunk do you have to be like get that scared up i'm gonna do that now luge we talked that margarita luge we talked about now at the bottom so that is one thing that we will not be doing on summer break next week but i need to get that scared up and now is it is it a urban legend or is it medical fact that the alcohol absorbs faster into your system i don't know through alternate means of ingestion so i heard uh the old rumor about steve nicks is that she did so much blow that she couldn't do it through her nose anymore so she went another direction and it worked apparently yeah that is a desire like they'd like you like actually like a friendly couple we have the mug shot up yeah they do they do our chat they look fairly normal i not what i was expecting she's gridded he looks like he's done this before you see there's a glimpse of pride in his eye of my first rodeo mexican restaurant you damn right look at his face damn right i did not do it again when doing it tomorrow look at him there is some pride there there's a there's a pride in the eyes tms he says yeah it happened three months ago but at least just found out about it after mary ratted on herself she was upset after someone leaked the video online and wanted cops to arrest the person and then instead her and joe were arrested for public indecency uh the restaurant put out a statement saying this was unacceptable and not reflective of the family friendly dining experience that they strive for at rodeo mexican restaurant i take my family out for a nice dinner we open the door she's on all four she's like what the hell oh yeah all right now let's go turn around dancing come back later holy crap the face i cannot get over his face hell yeah hell yeah i mean here that some of the employees of the restaurant may also face action or charges for inappropriate action because according to reports one of the restaurant employees is the one that gave the joe the funnel hey you got a funnel back hey so i'm sorry again i apologize for being on a rare one which way are you doing the the funnel like six or is it upside down or i still don't know what the funnel is for i'm going to be honest with you a funnel hasn't a small size and a big shot i don't know which hairband you can see i don't know how it's going to help i'm not going to show by adding a funnel to it pouring something into the funnel yeah i can see if you're trying to bolt but then it's like uh then it like uh you know what i mean i don't watch it at the break you know we'll get a better understanding of it thank you Paul you're really great right now unfortunately for this restaurant anytime you google now rodeo mexican restaurant like all i wanted to know was what was on the menu like the pancitos or corn tortilla chips smothered with queso black beans sour cream guacamole pico de gallo and pickle jalapeno so those are nachos where picked up and cheetos it's just nachos of course you go look at the menu the minichangas oh god i love it too minichongo let's go to break all right uh we will come back we got our final segment of benowitz first we got the uh john fogordi tickets to give away he is not affiliated at all with the rhymele report i would like to win two tickets to the rainy shell september 4th to see john fogordi and concert be our fifth caller at 833 288 097 3 833 288 097 3 tickets are on sale now at ticketmaster.com but you can win them right now at 833 288 097 3 back to wrap things up before the round table next year on 97 3 the fam couple updates on stories we've talked about in the past yesterday mentioned uh torrey pines highlum taylor fritz was in the quarter finals at wimbledon so close looking to get to the semis and it was a really good match against larenza mussetti taylor fritz won the first set lost the second one in a tiebreaker we were on the air that was top seven seven six seven five in the tiebreaker that was probably the match right there because mussetti won the third set fritz came back though to win the fourth set but then in the end uh mussetti took the the last set six one and advanced to the semi-finals that that second set was probably the decider there that tiebreaker just a point or two making the difference is uh yeah taylor fritz is eliminated in the wimbledon quarterfinals how many games do you play total in uh in a did tennis match uh because they went so probably around probably around 50 oh my god now remember that that one match a few years ago isner and muhut and it was like what was it like sixty five sixty three and the fifth set oh my god they went like a hundred oh my god twenty eight games in the one set because there was no tiebreakers back then and you had to go longest ten inch back in history it was uh first round men single do do do do this was 2010 yeah isner bahut and find out exactly how 11 hours and five minutes yeah but how many games did it go in the fifth set it was 11 and 11 i made 70 to 68 city to 68 in the fifth set normally you have to get to six to win they've already played they've already played four sets that would be like a baseball game going to the i don't know 137th inning before you decided it it says the match began at 613 British time and at 907 p.m. due to the feeding daylight play was suspended before the start of the fifth set after resuming on wednesday the 23rd at 2.05 p.m. the record for the longest match was broken at 545 play continued until the final set was tied 59 games all at which point the daylight faded again three days so play was suspended once more just after 9 p.m. they resumed at 3 40 p.m. on thursday and eventually he won as no one the match at 4 47 the final set time eight hours and 11 minutes you know that tennis when it started just the final set was eight hours and yeah i read that when tennis like when they started it was invented it was just like a leisurely game a gentlemanly game and they used you're supposed to actually hit it back to the other person to get it to the other person yeah so essentially and and even pro tennis was that way and it was just i'm looking at you right in the eye and i'm like here you go if you hit it right here you go it's a faux pas if you actually like hit a winner like too far away from the person you try to like lob one if you try to smash one that was a very gosh that was amazing that's amazing well baseball started that way as well pitchers pitchers were supposed to like throw batting practice in the beginning of baseball like your job was to throw it in there that's amazing and eventually obviously it evolved where the pitchers job became to try to get the guy out yeah home plate and not just your competitive spirit not just throw it in there for you to hit it just got a shot of uh maybe michado's camp my son is that right now one of our tier one's chris is one of the coaches and uh yeah they're just probably hanging out big doing the big speech all the little kids out there michado jersey looks pretty sweet uh out at helix so gonna run down there and check that out and see how uh how everything's going today the other story update is from uh a while ago and this one is a sad one but um the passing of chan burrows they just released oh man corners reports and um we know that chan burrows died at the parking lot at the little league field you don't just live in your home you live in your neighborhood as well so when you're shopping for a home you want to know as much about the area around it as possible luckily homes dot com has got you covered each listing features a comprehensive neighborhood guide from local experts everything you'd ever want to know about a neighborhood including the number of homes for sale transportation local amenities cultural attractions unique qualities and even things like median lot size and a noise score homes dot com we've done your homework today's episode is sponsored by nerd 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fantasy on the free odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts all right we're halfway home on a thursday benham woods 97 3 the fan great to be here with you potter a bit of a skid right now which we i think probably should have seen coming based on how the season has trended this year you know when win a few lose a few etc etc but listen not gonna and not going to ruin our good time today that's for sure i'm woodsy that's paul rindall he's the executive producer morning poly morning it's like uh the potters are like a carousel ride up and down up and down up and down are we allowed to say that no no no no amusement park no no do not invoke any sort of ride and any sort of amusement park ever they're like a yo-yo goes nope and then uh nope and then it goes down and then it goes back up no no no no that's not a ride nope no toy no it's can't do that either ben higgins you're like a boomerang they're going forward and then they kind of come around come back it's good metaphor well can use boomerang all right found one it's a rollercoaster yeah sorry mike it's a rollercoaster it is you may have it may have been prematurely used earlier this year fair that's a fair point it is now though and and when mike shilt push to push back against it he maybe he was right you were a little early and you're calling the season a rollercoaster after a month or so it's not entirely anymore this has been a an absolute rollercoaster ride paul you had the uh you had the stat earlier uh too much more than said it but here is the uh the stretch from the earlier in the season so podrays went five and one then oh and five five and one oh and five 12 and three and now oh and four it's it's as up and down as you're gonna get in a baseball season three was like the loop yeah that that that's his back and fourth is you're gonna see in a baseball season yeah you know normally it's going you're gonna have up and down stretches every team does but they'll be a little bit softer on the edges you know it'll be six and three and then four and seven and then it'll be eight and four and then it'll be two and five this is very glaring very distinct very easy to see when you go to like an espm page and you just have the schedule and you see the w's and l's all in a line they're very much grouped it's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red and then it's green and then it's red paul you're killing but remember the i thought i thought about it this morning the podrays heart meat and i thought then's podrays heart meat i'll do it i'll do it for summer break all right up until next week uh unofficial first half of the season yeah we'll see how it ends against the Braves if you guys missed it we did it last year we gave up on it after like we're a week we were dying but we had uh for wins it was the sound was yes and for losses dang it so when they lost like three in a row dang it dang it so we just played them all together it was like the heart meat of the podrays and it was was funny as hell and then it got really long we'll get some new ones we're freshened up this year we'll do it for the entire first half of the season yeah first half of the season we'll just play it for you guys to our break on summer break it'll be the audio representation of what you can see visually i'm on the page right now the red green red green red green red green all the way through the season red is when they tie red yeah yeah green and red uh yeah next week though on on benham woods as you know we have uh we have summer break here on the program we're still here it's like summer school basically for us we're here there's no games or anything i never had to go to summer school i went to summer school in college just because i wanted to finish because i wasted like two years with no credit so i had to catch up so i had to uh do summer school but we'll do this is like summer school for us because we're we're still here all right is he is he making us is he making us do a round table next week no games i think so is he really yeah this will be our third mid-season report yeah because this week's kind of a mid-season that we did it we did it a couple weeks ago the actual halfway point and then the round table next have another mid-season round table next week we got no games that's up to the moderator to come up with new and interesting topics for next week you may be doing this turning summer break maybe we can get actual uh players like in studio i'm sure i'm sure that's what they want to do on there they'll be flying out on thursday to our cleveland i think to start the second half of the season next friday yeah cleveland yeah another really hard team please watch this this month and i and i don't think i don't think these i'm not saying that these four losses are scheduled necessarily driven but the month of july is a fairly brutal one it's it's the most brutal remaining month yeah schedule wise for the pod raise they they take on pretty much nothing but good opponents the rest of this month atlanta cleveland washington nationals aren't great but they're still in the playoff hunt for sure at baltimore and then the dodgers that's the rest of this month those are first place teams to get cleveland baltimore los angeles first place teams you got wild card leaders in the braves and wild card contender in washington then in august it definitely gets a little bit tinder you got rocky series miami series rocky series pitzburg may or may not still be you know going forward at that point we'll see what they do at the trade deadline we get two series against pitzburg it's not nearly as tough in august as it is in july but july is a very brutal stretch for the san diego pod raise schedule wise yeah it's tough so next week we'll be in here uh on summer break you will be you know doing the recaps of the year but there's anything you guys uh want to talk about next week this is when we really get a chance to explore the space we could get really freaky in here if we wanted to you know what i mean it's kind of hope we do like freaky we could get we can do whatever we want we have the empty canvas here basically then you're gonna get a tattoo on here that would be amazing what will you do would you do that then we'll come up with some ideas no i don't not i do not want a tattoo but it's just like a little circle like like a mole like on your leg one of your moles like on your hip even like a little sexy one right here on your hip that's sexy little spot on your hip guarantee somebody's a tattoo artist all right i'm gonna i'm gonna come i'm gonna come fully clean as well okay i don't endure pain very well and i know that there are people who really find the process of getting the tattoo painful why did you say that like it was some big secret that we didn't already know my wife does not she is very she's sitting they call it sitting well she sits parts of the body where it won't hurt yeah there's part of it gets bought that you're not gonna affect your tv career i know it's not well i'm not gonna get you the mike tyson it would have to be some spider web around your neck it would have to be somewhere where i can't see it right because it would bother me to see it i'd keep trying to rub it off i don't like my back what i find it's even there is someone ever you know you know people write on their hands like a note yeah even if it washes off that but it creeps me out like writing on my skin so to have permanent writing my skin i think would really bother me carlos says get sd fat loss on your lower back like a tramp stamp sd fat loss i'll get eco water across my chest sd fat loss around your like a tramp stamp would be amazing is that term offensive these days i think it is then getting tattooed on the air live on the air would be pretty amazing yeah let's just i mean i would do it i would see i could do it but it's not as if you would bother me you know that would bother me i heard this up here really really hurts my buddy got ribs like all up and down the ribs and he said i want to get actual ribs tattooed on my ribs like baby back ribs baby back ribs on my ribs could i can you tattoo like a six pack of abs yeah so you do that that's just a shading just looks like you've got abs they can shade it in i can shade it in yeah it's listen summer break it's uh it's anything goes probably do some drinking on the air next week for sure got to find the new drink of the summer we did the sunny d seltzer last year oh yeah what phenomenal what is this year was phenomenal abs i was so good so we did that last year we'll have some fun yeah with that next week's gonna be real loosey on ben and woods as if it's not normally it's normally a really tight ship take this tight ship take this tight ship and you'll loosen it up over there sail it out to the middle of nowhere well listen man this team doesn't give us a hell of a lot to uh to talk about of days like today this is what it is joey says we being ben and woods tattoos no that's the kiss of death it's kiss of death i would get our show logo tattooed like that you can't i'm gonna cherish this moment you know i'm cherish too but of my life forever but what if it went really bad as radio shows often do and you're like it won't outweigh the high isn't that isn't that the the fear anytime you get a tattoo of anything no it's no longer going to be meaningful to you in four years no but it's the it begs the question would you do megan's name hannah's been after me for 10 years i'm on our third day she's like you need to get my name tattooed i'm like you're out of your mind i literally just got divorced i'm not getting some of these names i would i would do something for her i don't know that i would just do her names but like i've thought about something like in her handwriting i think it's a cool idea like what i don't know like i love you or something or something from our wedding vows or something like that why not our name property of megan but yeah i mean yeah i wouldn't yeah okay everyone's digging the little holes this morning i feel like on this program none bigger than you my friend very true very very true ooh a calf sleeve would look good on me i think i'd rather have a piercing than a tattoo we can make that happen absolutely maybe that happened today oh stop hold on i'm number one i'm blown away yeah where i don't know by the way here and you won't be here oh my god like ed Bradley yeah i didn't use a tattoo because of me man i i don't know ed Bradley bed then would be ed Bradley would you but would they make you take it out on check they can't they can't make you take it out on channel 10 to get your nipple pierced wow that sounds really painful woods my tiny little bit you guys have a lot of service area i don't i have one tiny little thing i want a little bar yes and a little more and then you see it through my t-shirt every morning would you be repulsed if you looked over and you saw the little part i love them on women i'm big fat but men a little different but i a little nose ring for you i feel like that would hurt a lot i think they all hurt i think they all hurt he won't do a tattoo because of the pain do you know what a prince albert is yeah you ever thought about that no all right when you think of the spot then i'll make that yeah we'll make it happen the ear please get an earring oh this is a life crisis i can see it coming on him i can see it i can smell it and it's going to be such good content repeat we pierce his ear on a monday by Tuesday he's got leather jacket oh the core of a vet we'll start looking at vets when i get back next week how about that after the show we'll start looking at core bets i like that i said i don't see me with a nose ring a ring just a yeah it may the stuff do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do we do i definitely not belly button is i don't really have to ring i don't really have a belly button so i can't get it pierced dad man i am dead tongue one of those clickers yeah you just sit down the whole show click click click click click nightmare yeah you have to do it uh okay as if you had an earring would it be like a diamond stud or would it be a dangling bearing body i don't think it's campus selling dangling i don't think i'd like that would bother me like a deck what if it was like a dangling golf ball i wouldn't want to feel it it was like a dangling golf ball no a golf ball stud it'd be like a t a t for what golf golf golf t i think no no not the letter t golf t the plugs like really drag is here out drag it out like the holes yeah the what are those called spacers bugs that plugs out there i mean you just tell me when i'll make it happen a little diamond would look really cool of them yeah all right summer break never know what might happen let's go to break right now though all right let's take time out we get you know serus on the way at the bottom of the hour stay tuned for that that was one of my favorite segments of all time he's like i'm not going to get a tattoo i would get a piercing though excuse me i am just saying yeah and if you made me choose between the two gauges is what they're all right i mean you can always take out the piercing at some point and it goes away tattoo you can't it's it never goes away true i think that's part of just get garvey and number six that's part of the equation for me so all right other baseball games yesterday we got an update got very tight tightening wildcard race in the national we'll get to that coming up it's exactly check traffic here on ninety seven three the fan speaking of earrings just as the conversation turned in our last segment um i just got this in and i brought it in the the louise camposano pin that they're giving away this sunday theme game ticket actually has a dangling earring from campy's ear it's actually part of the pin i don't know if you can see it right there it's that cross earring that's actually part of the pin they also will be giving away the no no joe pin series as well you do need a theme game ticket that sundays game against the atlanta braves on the fourteenth uh tickets are still available uh even for the theme game as well i'm always intrigued by those theme game giveaways because well the the ones that are for everyone like the hat yesterday fantastic kind of special when you like one of the few who get like the limited edition stuff but you do have to like take the extra step of signing up and getting one of the themed game tickets and if you're a pin collector and i know they have the franando one they've had the series going on you don't want to miss out this sunday for the the latest offering i wanted to go to i wanted to buy a theme game ticket for the marrow christmas shirt i want it but when i went to go i was gonna go buy the tickets and when i went to buy them it said they're only available and and medium and large i think oh that's the only size is left or that's the only size they have you kind of squeeze me into a large jacks and marrow shirts the overcooked hot dog in the microwave just folding out of the top you've lost weight you ain't fitting in the large no no chance and also ballpark largest down finally down to extra large ball park largest some t-shirts ball park larges are different they're smaller than regular larges so as much as i want that jacks and marrow shirt i can't wear it in a large that's a bummer i like that shirt a lot though i like it a lot i was going to buy one on ebay or something but um not if they don't have an excel now i'm seeing them a chat that they say it's medium or extra large not medium or large i'll say the two choices are medium or excel okay i'll take an excel that's better all right so all right i might i want but you wash it once and then it's then it's this guy like what's up and you got to hang dry it over here i think the worst t-shirts are the ones when you put your arms over your head that they pull up above your belly that's that that is the worst the worst dude i hate it as i just suck down a donut uh in here so you tell i'm very concerned about it so i know i'm always the the good news merchant yes you're the good news right to spin bad days into good and i don't have much for you today here's what i've got pottery's actually picked up a half game on the st. Louis cardinals in the wild car race yesterday not the worst good news you've ever delivered the cardinals actually lost twice yesterday's that's right kansas city royals they were swept in a double header so the pottery's didn't lose ground to everybody in the national league playoff chase unfortunately a couple of the teams that are more concerning that are right behind them are gaining ground and gaining ground fast the new york matt speak to washington nationals six to two and don't look now but the Mets are a game above 500 in just a half game behind the san diego pottery's for the third and final wild card spot in the national league and that of course is a team that pretty much has unlimited resources good point man very very good point one of the teams we talked about yesterday that we buried they were done they were training everybody next fans buried their own team after like three weeks of the season italian paul was like despondent when he filled in for paul he was terrible you guys are gonna kill us this weekend we got smoked and they went on a run and they've stayed on a run and they like you said unlimited resources to do whatever they want and uh yeah super fun they've kind of rallied around the uh the lim dor all-star snub not getting in and uh taking some momentum here into the all-star break and uh the Arizona Diamondbacks of course it just took two or three from the pontrays they beat the Braves yesterday seven to six and the defending nationally champions are just a game and a half back in that wild card race so there are plenty of contenders still as we head toward the break and the trade deadline and I would say if you had two teams behind you that I was most worried about those are the two because of the Mets resources and the diamondbacks having already had the success from last season like the the knowledge that they can and have done it makes them a little bit more dangerous than say the pirates or the reds or the nationals or some of the other teams that are that are still in contention yeah you know three you know three or four games back what about the Giants Giants yeah I mean that you know I'm a little worried about them if you know Blake Snell gets healthy then he's second half Blake Snell you know they dial Harrison Logan well yeah they probably the next on my list they did lose to the the Blue Jays 10 to 6 Logan Webb gave up seven runs yesterday so they've just never been able to truly get on a roll this season but they're not out of it they're they're only like three three back as well so plenty of contenders that are trying to chase down your San Diego Padres struggles continue for the LA Dodgers third straight loss yesterday four to three to the Phillies Cal schwarver had a lead-off home run but the Dodgers pitching woes continue they said Bobby Miller down to the minors he was supposed to be pretty much this was the year where he joins the rotation for good and it has not worked out very well can you fill me in on what's going on Walker Bueller did you see that I did not seen any Walker Bueller news as of late he is he left the Dodgers to go work somewhere else he's trying to address his issues away from the Dodgers he was activated from the 15th let's never good side day IL on May 6 let's see early returns makes bag yeah we saw him was great replaced back on the IL he's away from the team working out his issues well while players don't usually train and practice away from the club's coaches during the season the Dodgers have backed up his decision the idea of working at a facility outside the Dodgers organization was Bueller's idea and we're supporting it Dave Roberts says still no timetable for when he will return I feel like that's a pretty big story don't you I do now would do the Dodgers have any choice other than to support their guy and if he feels like it's gonna make him better than okay do what you need to do one of those guys that's that's earned that that ability possibly is it even if he has it's still a big red flag it is if you don't think your own coaches and the Dodgers who have massive massive coaching resources and organizational resources and you don't think anyone in that organization can help you you need to go to your own pitching coach at your own facility to try to get right that's a huge red flag that's like when you need I need to go to my own doctor to get a second opinion after the team doctor says one thing and you don't that's just a sign you don't trust your own organization yeah it's really wild to me and of course it was kind of you know not glossed over yesterday in the news I did see it and I went oh I've got to remember to talk about that tomorrow because it did seem a little odd for me that that he's like no I'm gonna I'm gonna work through my stuff trust me this is better than you know this is better for everyone if I do and so yeah pretty interesting story I feel like it would be a big deal if it happened to one of our guys I do I really do speaking of interesting baseball stories Eno Saris is gonna join us we get our smart baseball weekly segment coming up with Eno get some more thoughts on what's going on around the league that is coming up next with Bena Woods on San Diego's number one sports station 97-3 the fan baseball coverage on 97-3 the fan is presented by T-Mobile switch to T-Mobile you can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon use their savings calculator to find out how at tmobile.com/switch we've got Eno Saris standing mine from the athletic or smart baseball weekly segment coming up right after this check traffic on 97-3 the fan so I'm curious about something is we welcome Eno in um we had Kyle Lagashioka in studio earlier this week gestured no two days ago and he had a home run that night they did now Eno talks to a lot of players we always worry that when we talk to someone that if they have a bad night they're gonna like associate it with us and they're gonna blame us right Eno do you ever worry about that because you just talked to Logan Webb and and he he went out and had a really bad game yesterday for the San Francisco Giants. Guy probably should have been focused on pitching and not showing your kid pitching crimps you know let's be honest yeah no I mean I do think about it sometimes one thing that I'm blessed with is I don't go into the clubhouse after the game and the reason I say that I'm blessed not to do that is that if they've had a bad game they don't look across the mic at me yes very good point to call very I think I think to the most for the most time I think that they talk to so many people that they pick her cat but I do wonder like if I do like a big piece it's about like why they've gotten better or whatever and then they go through a bad stretch the the the reason though that that is always going to happen is that you're going to write about the players that are playing the bass yeah and there's just natural you know baseball just naturally there's regression all the time so when we're terrible and then they were great they were the best in baseball in June you know it's like it's just always like that so if you write about somebody right when they're doing their best and because that's one of their most interesting of course they're gonna they're gonna have some hard time back it it does always feel like a jinx you know too because I was in here a couple of days ago and we had Tim Flannery and he told a couple hours of stories that were just brilliant about some of those old giant teams that you know very well and um and I asked him you know do you think do you believe and he goes oh yeah I believe in this team and I'm like brought me to they they deserve a shot man they deserve to go out and get a starter in a bullpen maybe another bat whatever they need this team has really earned it and then you know a couple of clunkers in a row driving into work this morning going I wonder what we could get for Dylan Cease you know what I mean it's just this stupid stupid nature of a baseball season yeah but they are a decent team and I like that they make so much contact and I think what really would it hide though on offense is that they do way better when they hit power it's a power as well um I think was it last night they had six singles or something yes seven hit six singles I think I think that's right yeah and it's just hard to live like that I know you know uh you know I love mud and I love the dancers but I hear this from other people that like you know it is a hit and you know just get on base but and you can string together hits it's just really hard to string together hits in today's environment you just think about the batting average now is the worst it's been since like 1968 the year of the pitcher so uh you get six singles you get zero runs for it you know it's like uh it is pretty hard actually to string together uh a bunch of singles and so you know that's why I think you know Manny getting right and he's looked better and the tattoo is coming back um that's enough where you're like okay this this offense can hit y'all you know Sarah says with us uh yesterday Eno you and a couple of your colleagues from the athletic posted a story about the 10th anniversary of stat cast the birth of what has become at least for me an integral part of watching baseball I mean I can't even imagine now watching a pot raise game without going and checking the exit velocity of that last hit and uh you know who's throwing hard the speeds and velocities how has the game changed based on this information that is now not just available to the you know the teams that have advanced metrics but now everybody can go and see these numbers and they're posted right instantly online uh during every single game you can follow along uh just like I was doing last night with the pot raise mariners game yeah for that piece I talked to Mike Petriello who did like an alternate stat cast edition of games early on where he you know they they broadcast with Eduardo Perez um and they they have David Cohen on sometimes and um you know Jason Benetti and they and they would do these games where it was like more static focused and he said you know that's coming back and we're gonna do something this year and I'm nervous because now every broadcast has this stuff in it and the regular Sunday night baseball has Eduardo Perez and David Cohen and and they took our producer that was producing the stat cast and they just made him the producer of the Sunday night baseball so it's like that's how ubiquitous has become is that like now the guy who used to be the nerd on you know doing the nerd cast um has to figure out how to become even nerdier and I think that actually is a good way to kind of think about how it's changed the game ever the the nerdiness level has like gone through the roof and you know even if uh someone said to me like I don't care about this sort of stuff I talked to Tyler Glass now and he was like yes I look at it I look at the movement I look at everything I look at other people's stuff I I care about it it's helped me in my career and then James Paxton sitting right next to him said I can look at a pitch and know if it's good but even James Paxton knows about like naming conventions for movement he knows about inverted vertical frets he just he's decided he doesn't care about it you know what I mean like so it's come to the point where everybody knows this stuff it's everywhere um and I think the more successful players uh embrace it and use it uh to their benefit J.D. Martinez just joined the Mets and um he when he arrived he changed the way the hitting reports were coming through from the hitting coach um after a couple weeks and he he literally brought weighted bats to the team and and distributed them to other players and showed them how how to use them and um so you know that's the kind of there are these ambassadors uh that that know even more than the average player and are sort of proselytizing the data you know you know it's funny thinking about J.D. Martinez who was somebody we talked about in the off season certainly the Padres were um probably interested along with a bunch of other teams coming in and I mean if you're the hitting coach of the New York Mets isn't that Eric Chavez yeah yeah he's like oh all right cool you bring you know what I mean but then I just saw you retweeted the story we just talked about before you got yawned about Walker Bueller who's like all right see you guys later I'm off to Florida to go work at cressy sports performance uh instead of working with Mark Pryor and the Los Angeles Dodgers who I'm assuming have every single gizmo gadget metric that one could ever want well I think one part is that it's um it would be it's a little difficult I think sometimes to really revamp anything or work on stuff um in a competitive environment so it would have been hard for him to do it between starts with Mark Pryor right now on the Dodgers I guess you could I.L. him but then you technically are supposed to send him to somewhere you know you it's rare to I.L. someone and he stays with the Dodgers right you know so maybe his choice was do I go down to Oklahoma City you know and work with people there or do I go over there cressy and I think the modern players also empowered by the fact that there's all these independent labs pitching labs now that they have their own contractual arrangements with and they can maybe feel some ownership over their own coaching um you know by by doing this so they can go to dry land they can go to tread they can go to um they can go to cressy and and and they feel like they are getting what they want and when I when I talk to people that are coaches or people in in front offices about this um they were they they struggled with it you know they're annoyed because they would rather the player got the coaching that they want him to get right they they they they know the right coaching um and there's different approaches to how to deal with that some some um front offices do something that's kind of cool I talked to one front office they said oh we don't like we don't love teacher man teacher man's the guy who's Aaron judges oh yeah I've heard a lot about that guy man oh my god he's so arrogant he's so arrogant he's so arrogant I think he really has like one good idea but I don't think he has every good idea you know um and so and it worked for judge doesn't mean and it's gonna work for everybody else judge is pretty unique in terms of you know size strength quick this yeah so um you know so somebody was working with them and they didn't really love everything but what they did was they had their hitting coach take teacher man's course so they knew what teacher man was about and what he talked about them so he could speak teacher man's language to this player they invited teacher man to spring to talk to the player and to other players and just made it seem like hey we're cool with them if that's what you believe and that's what you're into like we're gonna we're gonna support you in that but when the kid went through a stretch where he was over 20 or something he was a little more receptive to their own coach make sense yeah and so they wanted they that's the struggle right now is like how do I make it cool for you to go to air cressy but also I want you to do some art prior that's that's kind of the the line people are walking right now smart baseball with you know saris every thursday here with Ben and woods and I think when we talk about the numbers you know and and you've kind of mentioned this before and so for some people it's too much they get overwhelmed by all the stats and and they say I just want to go by feel but your brain fools you if you throw a good pit if you throw a pitch and someone swings and misses your brain's gonna tell you I just threw a good pitch but you don't know that's true that's absolutely the batter may have just taken a bad swing at it for no reason what so ever and the numbers will actually kind of tell you which pitches are the better ones if you can take your brain out of the equation sometimes is that is that really what the statistical revolution here in baseball is about I think so I mean it you know I think the opposite is the one that's really happens even more which is that a pitcher throws a pitch that's pretty good but one of the first times he throws it someone the Yangtze for a homer and then they never throw that pitch again and you're like dude that is a pretty good pitch and that's why it can be good to have something like stuff plus this curve like ranks of the best here here are the cops you know this curve looks like this guy's curve in this guy those guys curves are good right like throw the end please you know you know so there's some of that which there's also some of like when a player is really struggling and you can come to them and say hey you know what you're barreling the ball your barrel rate is on par with this guy's your your your exit losses are fine like you just you just need to chill out and like the hits will come you know so the numbers can do a lot of different things they don't have to be overwhelming they don't have to be negative um and one thing that I do think is as a fan you were allowed you were I don't progress anybody their opinion about how they want to consume the sport I understand that and I think that the best um the best broadcast teams the best you know the best shows um try to really meld you know what is happening on the field is what has happened historically the stories people love stories from back in the fifth day um and then just sort of gently fold in some of the stats so that you don't necessarily have to report the eggs of velocity on every homer but if somebody tonight hit the hardest hit homer of the year or ever for the Padres or something that's when you sort of say it you know what I mean like you don't have to do it for every single one you don't have to you don't have to really shoehorn it in these numbers are supposed to tell a story you know it's interesting too I was watching uh I think it was the something on Apple TV maybe I can't remember Frank Moore uh Franche was on there and he yeah he kept calling people that like stats based on pencil necks the whole night oh those are those pencils next pencil next stats pencil next I'm like all right this is a huge broadcast featuring two great teams pencil neck pencil neck pencil neck and I'm like oh my god and he's he's not an old guy I mean he's not he's not you know this isn't goose gossage here and I'm listing this going all right now I I there needs to be more of a happy medium you know there really does yeah um I just I thought that was I don't know if you had heard that yeah I think I think mud that does a great I think they do a great job I'm looking Don do a great job and they're not they're not the nerdiest that I've ever had you know one of my favorite broadcasts is is John Miller he's John Miller is he's not like a big stack guy but I also love Boosh Yambi yes um you know the Cubs and he he folds more stats in um you know Jason Benetti with the White Sox so there are different ways to be great just like there are different ways to be great as a baseball player and that's why I like these stats is because you can highlight so many different cool things about a player oh yeah this guy's like one of the five fastest players in big leagues you know this guy and you can do it a little bit more precision um I think then then without it and I don't know you can also just express regret at like the way that baseball has become very sort of uh walking of last you know sort of yeah more focused on power and and we've got three two outcomes like that's that has come from analysis but my my my retort is you know that's not the analyst fault they're just trying to help their team win the game right it's not the pencil next fault they're all they're they're working for teams and trying to help players get better that's my passion is player development you know trying to help players get better they're trying to help their team win the if you don't like where this is going then you should you should be pro the kind of rule changes that baseball is making that's the reason I'm making those rules changes is to incentivize teams to to want the single again you know enjoy your all-star break uh we'll chat with you again as we get the second half started and uh you will always appreciate everything you've done first half of the season was great thank you so much we'll talk to you not next week we'll give you the week yeah we call second the first week of the second half we'll have you back in two weeks all right thanks god unless we get in a pitch yeah you know just call you keep your phone on but just you know still might get attacked we'll see you know sarah smart smart baseball brought to you by seven mile casino and he said something and he always has some nugget that that I grab onto and it's so simple but as we've been talking about the pot raise and the roller coaster of the season and maybe this isn't as unexpected as it as it feels because when we start talking about how well they're playing and get excited of course they're about to turn because there there's only one way you can go when you've won 12 of 15 that's not going to last forever unless you're the greatest team in baseball history you're about to hit a rut and when they've lost four or five in a row and everything seems bleakest that's not going to last either and of course they're going to start winning and things are going to turn around again because that's just the nature of of life that you know things change and our attention gets focused when teams are either playing well or struggling but it's because it's probably about to change and go the other direction let's hope the pot raise are about to change and go the other direction again that's exactly what's been been happening all season long and we'll see if that continues Paulie's got the round the report coming up next final hour before the round table on the fan so there's a debate going on in the chat right now uh my our buddy mike who says that uh the numbers are turning fans off the game the younger fans and then Tony says are Kim's advanced metrics generating any value and I think the answer to that is yes I think absolutely 100% they are I mean we were talking about how son Kim's value earlier in the day and um you know he's what ninth in in f-war for short stops and ninth by short stop in in the league according to f-war so I think yeah I mean that can help build value uh potentially in somebody that maybe the casual fan now listen when you're talking about trading people there are no casual gms you know kevin the kevin towers of the world are gone it doesn't exist you won't get the job if you're like no see to their pants no dude none there nobody goes there's like how do i tell a good baseball player oh listen i can hear a good baseball i can hear it i can smell it i smell it in him i look in his eyes i don't know it means no confidence that's right bro there's that doesn't exist anymore okay so every single gm knows how to create value out of whatever player they have conversely every other gm that they're dealing with knows how to take some of that value away it's quite an art form now there is value beyond the numbers and if you don't acknowledge that then you're missing some of the greatness of the game there are players who are more than just the sum of their numbers wouldn't you agree with that yeah they're you know chemistry character you know make up some makeup grit whatever you want to call it still a good thing to have in a baseball player you know but you can't ignore the numbers either just because you like you guys grit or makeup correct that they have to also produce there there is a balance there for sure and there is still a place in the game for some of those old school evaluation there's no question but there's no way you can just ignore the numbers and go with your gut the problem is is i don't see a lot of the the numbers people you know there needs to be a mutual respect between both that's what i've always said there's got to be a little bit of this a little bit of that and you know you're a little bit of luck your brain lies to you 100 it will it will reinforce what you already believe if you think hasan kim is a good ball player then you'll remember his line drive yep you'll remember the diving plays that he makes and you'll kind of ignore some of the errors and some of the slumps if you think hasan kim isn't a good short stop then you'll ignore some of the good plays that he makes and you'll remember all the errors your brain wants to reinforce what you already believe that's what the numbers can do they can tell you my brain's been tricking me a little bit i didn't think awesome kim kim was quite that good how many times have we gone and pulled up some of these page went wow i'm okay all right i was completely wrong yes he's not striking out all the time i take take louise campusana early in the season a lot of praise for campy hitting you know 300 getting tons of hits but if you went to his stat cast page you would have seen that it was a bit of a mirage that the balls weren't being hit hard that they weren't barreled up and that likely if he continues on this path things will regress and he'll go into a slump when the balls don't fall in well guess what happened exactly that sometimes it is a telling indicator of the future that the numbers that you're seeing that are actually producing which are important you want obviously you have to actually produce on the field but you can say man but this isn't necessarily something that's sustainable correct sustainable in 162 game season is of the utmost importance is what i'm doing sustainable if it is great you know i'm gonna have my ups i'm gonna have my downs if i'm just hitting ass out flares into right field and getting knocks on them it's not going to last for 162 it may not last for six and part of what jerks and pro far has said this year is that he is finally just trusting his game not worrying so much when there's a a bad game or a slump doesn't need to tinker with anything yeah yeah just just trust just trust yeah numbers say i'm decent player guess what i'm just going to trust it and move forward and that can be hard to do because we all when things aren't going well think we need to do something and make changes and if we're not we feel like we're not if we're not doing our job lazy we're not doing our job but sometimes the right thing to do it's nothing leave it alone leave it alone just like the rinder report just leave it alone let them do a thing do your thing poly and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rindel report now tuned it to the mother greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a whole year all right all right all right all right morning gentlemen morning buddy how we doing good good let's see got a couple of stories here for you we will start off in the world of baseball baseball media side story yesterday how do you guys feel about peat rose where you guys add on peat rose in 2024 love the player the person's not my favorite i mean if if you know if i'm being completely honest like i read some stuff about it yesterday because i know where you're going here and i read an article yesterday i went yeah i'd forgotten most of this uh under age 15 year old girl in since nanny you know that he had a long long relationship she's 15 years old he was playing for the rats it's not good it's not good not asking him to babysit my kids anytime soon no but he i love the player but i also he's he's a polarizing he's a polarizing cat you know one of the best hitters of all time not in the hall of fan and i just i remember watching him as a kid and be like god dang god that guy gives it you know charlie also you get that nickname and uh and then i remember vividly the betting the scandals that came and i just remember sitting like the sports center was still fairly new back then i just remember being riveted and being like oh my god march shot peat rose the betting it was incredible well yesterday uh HBO announced a four part documentary watching every second you will okay every effing second that's what i was getting at it's a four four part documentary on the life and career of peat rose it's called charlie hustle in the matter of peat rose every second of it it will air on wednesday the 24th and thursday july 25th two episodes each day so you'll have it you know done in 48 hours and uh yeah i was reading it along here a little bit fascinating portrait of a complex individual full of contradictions one seeking redemption but not not quite ready for full atonement he will not he will like won't they told him back then just apologize he's like no we can we can make this work just apologize no contrition uh right you've anybody else everyone wants redemption but redemption requires some contrition spread introspection and contrition yeah she's never really totally been able to do uh huh there's interview what he has you've had to absolutely force out of him like like squeeze over like deckage just squeeze like a drop of contrition out of peat rose has been the hardest thing in the world like my six-year-old uh interviewed in the film in the four-part documentary peat rose isn't it of course he's not an executive producer so i don't know how much say he had in like the final cut or anything like that but he isn't it his son peat rose juniors in it mike schmitt kangrife senior uh at order perez al michael's marty brennan john miller so a lot of big names and uh yeah they've got all the descriptions out for each four all four of the episodes here's uh he's a pretty it's a prime example of art artist yeah that's it prime example here's a little bit of trailer see if it sells you if you're not if you're on the fence about it or not this was baseball's Watergate one of the game's greatest players has stained the game the cirrhosis accepted baseball's ultimate sanction lifetime and eligibility till this day i don't think they had the evidence would have asked in court about me bet on baseball we don't appreciate it giving reinstated he has to participate and show that he wants it i went baseball and peat rose to be friends so i can say i'm not an outsider looking in what he did for me was invaluable pizza's own worst enemy should peat rose be in the hall of fame integrity still matters Shakespeare what i don't feel they would this story only there's been on baseball they dropped banks and i was wrong by not coming queen originally but i played the game right so we're telling because i got to go make a bet no i'm just kidding yeah the betting is the betting but the the the other stories really gnarly and and um he did have the greatest quote i've ever heard i'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball i watched Ken Burns baseball when that came out and of all the quotes that stuck with me forever is i would walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball and i went you got me what stuck with me about that trailer was when he said to this day i don't think they had evidence that would have held up in a courtroom doesn't matter even you later have a trailer admit well i did that i did come clean i did do it who cares what specific evidence they had against you you knew you did it they know you did it and you tried to make everyone think that you didn't do it so tough well i'm probably gonna watch i'm watching every second of it every second that's in a couple of weeks uh also saw this clip making the rounds yesterday some sports radio fun uh this didn't remind me of anyone in particular that i know for sure but uh michael k from wfan or no he's espa in one thousand i think out there where's my oh he's does he wf is he on the wfan he's on the yes now yes network and for t8.7 espan espa yet okay so the other the new york sports radio out there and uh they got a guy named mike from new jersey call in and uh i'll just let this clip play for itself michael k just goes off on this sports radio caller and you will never big michael k will never criticize the Yankees probably hang up on me but never you know what jerk off you want me to hang up you know i'm not gonna hang up on you i'm gonna let you spoon your nonsense all i do is sit here and criticize the Yankees every day are you are you hard of hearing are you hard of hearing mike what do you say about food what do you say about i i tell you he is managing and no no who doesn't know are you a met fan or a fan he doesn't you have met fan or a fan what are you yes you're a fan i have said that boon action concert with the front office i'm giving you reasons what's going on i have said over and over they have a chance of falling out of the postseason what do you want me to do i don't understand what you want me to do mike don't find it somewhere else don't find it somewhere else mike tell me who's saying stuff like this again you want you want me to hang up on you you clown you want me to hang up on you i am gonna let you bury yourself i'm not gonna hang up on you you deserve to be exposed as a moron go continue to go you've got the radio go my go g man it's it's it's uncanny it's it's like adding a a new york accent to a certain host that we know very well and of course me and Annie Halberd Annie Halberd just like her just like Annie i said nobody i mean the only thing he didn't say was dude i don't say it twice i said it twice dude arid boons gotta go i said it twice dude uh how bad would it suck to live in new york if you were a fan of one of those teams and you still had to cover the other team because every they have that all over like one that one guy sells like a Yankee or a met fan and then michael k is obviously you know works for the Yankees but like no i think the match should trade so it's a of course you do you're a you're a Yankee fan you bum and you're only tough to maintain your credibility if you are a fan of one of the horrible horrible but you don't want to just be mr neutral i can't i'm not a fan of either of the Yankees or the Mets i'm simply an impartial observer of the whole thing you're a bomb i don't say it twice dude i say oh my god you're hearing what i said you're hearing what i said put the other one on that there is no other one that's it well this man but we heard it was you on the board bro i don't give a what you heard i'm sending you what was said whatever you think you heard i don't care damn dude like you're out of your mind i give you the evidence i'm giving you the evidence that's what was said on the radio that's what was said like are you kidding i gave you what i said i didn't say it again hey your brain plays tricks on you that woods brings you the stat cast numbers of what was actually said yeah okay i just sent you on you can't trust your own brain sometimes yeah there was uh any money says i've never heard such an aggressive dude in my life before adam this sounds like every phone call i have with with steve woods yeah oh my god maybe adam and i have had some bangers bangers uh on the phone yeah you're a little passionate it's all right don't say it twice dude so good identical michael k identical that's great i saw that yesterday i was like oh poly brings that with us michael k is a bootlicker i think when you work for a team there's always a fine line you have to walk i i appreciate and i respect listen dude a guy like jesse agler yeah who will give us honest opinion oh yes but of course he can't simply just come on and just trash everything about the team sure you know he's team employee he's you know on the pot raise payroll but he also is not going to lie to you about the team i believe jesse will not you will not tell lies about sandy potter now he may not he may not accentuate some of the negative sometimes which i totally understand but he's not going to just bald face lie and say the pot raise are are red when you know that they're blue bent it the funny part about this job and when you all when you hear stuff like that and i've got that before so you're telling me then whoever you are mike and you work at quarkam you you are you're an engineer you walk into your ceo's office and you're like you're a bum ruining this country you suck you're a loser i just tell it like it is bro i'm no bootlicker like everybody has a boss everybody on the planet they act like media guys don't like we don't have a boss or sometimes and it's like bro i can't you know i can't go nuclear all the time i went nuclear on that guy because that guy was calling me a liar but we've always said on the show you're going to get how you're genuinely feeling genuinely some days the pot raise losses devastate me some days like today when i'm going on vacation i'm like it's not my problem i'll watch tomorrow i'm into it it's never your problem it's not my problem but holy smoke we can't fix them yeah i can't fix them well we're up against the clock so i i had a hey hey hey i don't we don't need to get to it you just want to skip what the best story of the day all right tease it and we'll come back yeah uh just be careful yeah well we're gonna be very careful just think about it over the break how you want to handle this if you're really going in that direction you guys want to google he's the couple in georgia and a margarita that does not want to do this you can think about this think twice either way we're going to give away some john fogordy tickets when we come back as well and don't forget the round table is coming up at the top of the hour all ahead and woods' vacation is about 43 minutes away right here on san diego's number one sports station back after traffic here at 97-3 of the fail i'd be very careful yeah little ears maybe turn the target out for little ears yeah does that include me mature this is like kind of a little ear here i want you to hear every second a tour with the tour uh there was a viral clip going around on the social medias yesterday now this actually happened a couple of months ago but police just found out about it after the video went viral and i believe the woman involved it may have ratted on herself like turned herself in but um there was a couple in georgia way cross georgia they're a couple yes they know each other joe and mary joe boyette and mary sweat that turned him boyette and sweat in the mornings here in georgia it's boyette and sweat thanks for tuning in brave that head in the san diego to take it on the pot raise they are facing charges for an act that they committed at rodeo mexican restaurants okay and way cross rodeo mexican restaurant i bet it's so good too tech smacks we're thinking here it's georgia so no even worse southern just rodeo okay go ahead adam's lurking outside the studio like is he just gonna run even for the plug any point here i mean he's not listening do you need us do you need us okay are we good okay i guess he's not listening so the video which you can pretty much see all of it pretty clearly what's happening uh she doesn't put it in the chat or no no no she was mary don't understand this kind of hiking up her dress yep the dress goes up and then everything is exposed and she's in a booth on the honor knees right with a rear end out right and uh what's the joe joe boyette took a picture of margarita then uh just to clear it up i don't think this is a frozen frozen it was uh it was just a mixed mixed margarita on the rocks on the rocks yes and he's got the picture and on a funnel and uh funnel he used try to use the funnel to drink the margarita after he had poured it down that's it okay that's it even i know you're heading here yeah Brandon in the checklist stop stop beating around the bush i said hey man we're on radio still this is it just on youtube so i've heard the the expression that's used when you when you drink an alcoholic drink but not through the normal orifice right as it were the blank chug right right and i i this is not that this is more like a luge and i've never totally understood the concept necessarily yeah well what is the funnel for well the funnel didn't work so he threw the funnel away okay and it just went to the luge or it's like the the lute the the back of the so they were arrested for what indecent exposure all kinds of stuff really a real big mess get arrested for excessive sticky mess in a booth a luge i i need you to isolate yourself saying luge wasting a perfectly good picture of margaritas i mean drunk you have to be like get that scared up i'm gonna do that now luge we talked about margarita luge we talked about now at the bottom now that is one thing that we will not be doing on summer break next week by to get that scared up and now is it is it a urban legend or is it medical fact that the alcohol absorbs faster into your system i don't know through alternate means of ingestion so i heard uh the old rumor about steve nix is that she did so much below that she couldn't do it through her nose anymore so she went another direction and it worked apparently that that is a desire like they'd like it actually like a friendly couple we have the mug shot up yeah they do they do our chat they look fairly normal i not what i was expecting she's gridded he looks like he's done this before you see there's a glimpse of pride in his eye and like mappers rodeo mexican restaurant you damn right look at his face yeah damn right i did not do it again we'll do it again look at him there is some pride there there's a there's a pride in the eyes tmz says yeah it happened three months ago but we just found out about it after mary ratted on herself she was upset after someone leaked the video online and wanted cops to arrest the person and then instead her and joe were arrested for public indecency uh the restaurant put out a statement saying this was unacceptable and not reflective of the family friendly dining experience that they strive for at rodeo mexican restaurant i take my family out for a nice dinner we open the door she's on all four she's like what the hell oh yeah all right now let's go turn around down to come back later holy crap the face i cannot get over his face hell yeah hell yeah i mean here that some of the employees of the restaurant may also face action or charges for inappropriate action because according to reports one of the restaurant employees is the one that gave the joe the funnel oh you got a funnel back hey i'm sorry again i apologize for being the unaware one which way are you doing the the funnel like six four it's it up upside down i still don't know what the funnel is for i'm going to be honest with you a funnel hasn't it's a small small side i'm a big something i don't know which hairband you can see i don't know how it's gonna help i'm not gonna be adding a funnel to it pouring something into the funnel yeah i can see if you're trying to pull but then it's like uh then it like uh you know what i mean i don't watch it at the break you know we'll get a better understanding of it thank you Paul you're really great right now now unfortunately for this restaurant anytime you google now rodeo mexican restaurant like all i wanted to know was what was on the menu like the pancitos or corn tortilla chips smothered with queso black beans sour cream guacamole pico de gallo and pickled jalapenos well those are not shows where it's called pancitos it's just not just of course you go look at the menu the minichangas oh god i love a chimichango let's go to break all right uh we will come back we got our final segment of then what's first we got the uh john fogordy tickets to give away he is not affiliated at all with the rhyme will report i would like to win two tickets to the rainy shell september 4th to see john fogordy and concert be our fifth caller at 833 288 097 3 833 288 097 3 tickets are on sale now at ticketmaster.com but you can win them right now at 833 288 097 3 back to wrap things up before the round table next year on 97 3 the fam couple updates on stories we've talked about in the past uh yesterday mentioned uh torrey pines highlum taylor fritts was in the quarterfinals at wimbledon so close looking to get to the semis and it was a really good match against lorenzo moussetti oh taylor fritts won the first set lost the second one in a tiebreaker we were on the air that was tough set seven six seven five in the tiebreaker that was probably the match right there because moussetti won the third set fritts came back though to win the fourth set but then in the end uh moussetti took the the last set six one and advanced to the semi-finals that that second set was probably the decider there that tiebreaker just a point or two making the difference is uh yeah taylor fritts is eliminated in the wimbledon quarterfinals how many games do you play total in uh in uh in a tennis match uh because they went so probably around probably around 50 oh my god now remember that that one match a few years ago isner and mohut and it was like what was it like 65 63 and the fifth set oh my god they went like 100 oh my god 28 games in the one set because there was no tiebreakers back then and you had to go longest ten inch mass in history it was uh first round men single this was 2010 yeah isner bahut and find out exactly how 11 hours and five minutes yeah but how many games did it go in the fifth set it was 11 and 11 i made a 70 to 68 60 to 68 in the fifth set normally you have to get to six to win they've already played they've already played four sets that would be like a baseball game going to the i don't know 137th inning before you decided it it says the match began at 613 british time and at 907 p.m due to the fading daylight play was suspended before the start of the fifth set after resuming on wednesday the 23rd at 205 p.m the record for the longest match was broken at 545 play continued until the final set was tied 59 games all at which point the daylight faded again three days so play was suspended once more uh just after 9 p.m they resumed at 3 40 p.m on thursday and eventually he won uh isner won the match at 4 47 the final set time eight hours and 11 minutes you know that tennis when it started just the final set was eight hours and yeah i read that when tennis like when they started it was invented uh it was just like a leisurely game a gentlemanly game and they used you're supposed to actually hit it back to the other person to get it yeah to the other person yeah so essentially and and even pro tennis was that way and it was just i'm looking at you right in the eye and i'm like here you go if you hit it right back here you go it's a faux pas if you actually like hit a winner like too far away from the person you try to like lob one if you try to smash one that was a very gosh that was amazing that's amazing well uh baseball started that way as well pitchers pitchers were supposed to like throw batting practice in the beginning of baseball like your job was to throw it in there that's amazing and eventually obviously it evolved where the pitchers job became to try to get the guy out at home plate and not just your competitive spirit not just throw it in there for you to hit it just got a uh shot of uh meaning michado's camp my son is that right now one of our tier once chris is one of the coaches and uh yeah they just brought me any out big doing the big speech all the little kids out there michado jersey looks pretty sweet uh out at helix so gonna run down there and check that out and see how uh how everything's going today the other story update is from uh a while ago and this one is a sad one but um the passing of chon burrows they just released oh man corners report and um we know that chon burrows died at the parking lot at the little league fields on may ninth at the age of 43 the coroner said uh after performing the uh the test that that he died of a fentanyl intoxication overdose unfortunately which is uh i don't know it's gonna make it any sadder it's it's sad enough that he's gone to begin with but obviously uh you know i say that just is you know the cautionary tale for anybody out there you don't know whether he was taking it intentionally or not but you know there's so many chances now where it gets in your system and it can just do such devastating devastating damage uh including death and and that's what caused the the death of chon burrows oh super super sad we have a shout out to his family too did you see that one this morning it's actually a shout out to her family do you guys see who passed away actress actress poly hang on i gotta get the shout out to her family that's a whole different drop them yes this is bbc news we're interrupting our schedules for the following announcement bucking and panice has announced the death of her majesty shelly duvall has passed on then and uh had a really really really difficult life uh especially near the end she passed away she is 75 years old for those in the um the younger set famous roles that you might be aware of for shelly duvall all of oil in the movie pop eye with robin williams robin williams yeah a classic uh when we were kids benny and then of course shining i mean uh jandy wendy torris uh and and i when i think of that role you there's not a better actress in the world that you could have put in that role no one nobody could have been better than that uh so she passed away been 75 years old had been in really really poor health on the last few years and um just an incredible incredible actress man dynamite drop it i'm do you have anything else yet i still really have anything else to add so why don't we take our last check of traffic here let's do that nice three the fan sorry i didn't have anything to jump in man with any more thoughts on on shelly duvall okay you get nervous for the uh round table yeah yeah a little bit oh your rivals back yes dottingwin jr is uh scheduled to be here hope you're taking your place today actually in the round table no no he works here too right it's not filling in for you it's not filling in for me no i'm i'm missing one he's not special guest no no it's not taking my place he also works here been traveling here's his own key card but you you have been wanting to create a rivalry with him for some dumb reason lately you've really been he just gives me a lot of side eyes when i make comments during the round table he gives me a lot of silence he gives everybody a lot of sense he's smart he's the only big leaguer in there he's got to listen to me he's got a different perspective that's why i like having him in the round table so much he's got to listen to me you Craig Elston and chris elo be like here's what they should do like wouldn't you be what if you had to sit in there were four people that didn't know anything but never did professional radio and they're like here's what you should be me i'm constantly thinking about how tony is judging us the entire time me too absolutely i just i like to just ask him questions i don't ask i was like hey in that situation would you blah blah blah but i also feel like he can sometimes be that perspective that he has as a former player so good but he can also be compromised a little bit he will always he will always side with the players yes it's a good point good point and while we probably as fans go too far in the other direction of being critical and like wondering what what are you doing there tony sometimes i think is so empathetic to how difficult it is and i do understand it's such a difficult game but he's going to side with the players sure more often than not because he was one yeah right and grew up grew up i mean who who else knows the game better than that guy with the way he grew up and then of course what he did uh what he did i want tony to know i want him to understand that i do understand that part of it right not oblivious i've talked to enough big leaguers i know how difficult the game is i want mike shilt to understand that as well yeah that we're not yes we are too babbling heads on the radio in the morning and we talk a lot of silly things and we feel a lot of time like but yes but i'd also like to think that we are savvy enough as baseball observers and fans to recognize the difficulty and you know just the toughness of being a major league manager or a major league player i take all of my opinions and i put them through that lens first before i say anything and just you know spew it out i understand that it's 162 game season one game does not make the entire year players will go through slumps and they will go through um you know surges throughout the course of that season i understand all that and i i add it to my equation when i'm thinking i'm not completely oblivious to that and i'd like mike shilt i want to make sure Tony Gwen jr understands that i am not ignoring that completely there also are legitimate times where you can add your opinion and sometimes criticism of your team isn't that fair bro i listened to ron darling last night um there was a clip going around louis severino was pitching for the meds and you know darling pitched he's also a broadcaster pitched very well right and severino didn't back up home plate and he's like that's it's inexcusable saw that absolutely inexcusable it cannot happen and tony did it again he did it's tony's critical at times too and when he is believe i take notice when when tony is critical because i know that he he has seen something that is worth observing that's good mentioning when he brings it up and he won't say he won't just off the cuff be mad at something and you know let it spit out but when he notices something he will tell you and he will be critical for sure yeah no question about it absolutely no question about it so yeah he does kind of stick out more when he does it right you're like ooh you really you really messed up because it's it's now a glaring uh something that happened well i hope you guys get in a huge fight today all right more than any not a fist fight because that that wouldn't go well for me i mean i'm bigger than he is but he's a lot faster and stronger and stronger and stronger and younger yeah for handsome and all of them i mean hansoms in the eyes that we hold her not really it's not really objective on this case i don't think it's a i don't think it's a matter of preference in this way i know it's just objectively more justice it's an objective fact yes it's just it's more handsome than i am correct but yeah there's not one person that could disagree with that statement i don't think so really i don't think so huh hannon and carol if he compared you to tony guin jr she probably take tony guin jr probably not definitely you're saying that everyone we would definitely take tony guin jr over me you say he's just more handsome no no she would say she'd say he's more handsome than you like if you had a hundred people out there and you line me next to tony you're saying all 100 would say tony is better looking correct there wouldn't be one out there not one no he's he's more because if there was one that it would be subjective right that that would be in it that would be everyone can have their own opinion you're saying this is a fact it's fact this is yeah this is a hundred to none this is a fact yeah you're handsome dude i also don't want to kick my ass so i will at least yes Ben all right sorry about it sorry yeah there's things that you would just wear and then you know there's things that are that could be debated that's not one of them i mean that some people will just prefer a bigger guy maybe a portlier like a bigger dude yeah maybe but i think handsome is different handsome is not fit your face his face objectively just his features is that what's wrong with my feature he's just more he's got better what do i need to take the glasses off does that now am i no can you see that mole right there see that that gets you now you can hide that now i don't see it still still there remember what i thought that it was a that you had a like you something on your face yeah because i've never seen him before i go oh no he's on tv he's got chocolate with face this is like opening day you know have you ever studied Tony's face could he possibly have a oh all the time a mark or two there very handsome very handsome fella hmm yep sorry i'm i'm really sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feelings i'm saying objectively this you just know he's more handsome i mean i wasn't expecting it to be like 50 50 split here oh it's definitely not going to be but i feel i do feel like sometimes you're a little bit delusional like with your i think i could beat steeps to go moto at golf or king and proudly but i i would be as good of a i'd be a good of a ride i don't think i'd need a path the time i'm saying maybe like one out of no never like a hundred just like with the tony favor just like one out of a hundred is all i'm looking for never i just need to try to get you to realize lightning strikes no circumstances are just perfect all all the of a universe comes into a line a vision and parrot lady might find you more handsome than Tony but you're blind girl just on vocal vocal quality maybe vocal quality maybe uh if she feels around to like what she feels but visually i'm sorry hmm this one's getting a role uh to him all right fair enough all right i'm sorry i i'm not trying to hurt your feelings last question are you planning on stealing some roundtable pizza on your way out before you don't go into this fate in today's roundtable you know be a good move is to sit in there for like 10 minutes and just watch you guys do the roundtable just really rub it in eat some pizza no i'm not gonna be a jerk i want to get over to camp sitting there yep i'm gonna go uh get over to camp seat bow my buddy who's uh flying in today from Texas he's already delayed a little bit so gotta pick up bow bring him down there and uh you know get on to get on we're on with the vacation this weekend but well have a you got a really good time you will be back on monday please be back on monday fally and i will hold down the fort tomorrow we will talk to mike shilt at nine o'clock uh you know hope he's pretty happy i'm out hopefully they'll win tonight and somehow and you know we'll have a positive victory to talk about tomorrow i know they don't play i was just looking at you like really unlikely he's insane that would be nice but more than likely they'll still be on a four-game losing streak we'll talk to mike shilt tomorrow and uh we'll just have to just have to work our way through it i'm so sorry he does not sorry enough to come in but i am sorry it'll be okay we'll uh we'll manage our way through it tomorrow no doubt about it and then i would say we'll be back on monday for the rest of you though please stay tuned join us for the uh 97-3 the fan pot raise roundtable coming up commercial-free next presented by sandy eagle roundtable pizza and then Annie and elston will be on at 11 o'clock after the uh the roundtable so that's it for us or executive producer at imaging director paul rindall for the soon probably now vacationing steven woods i'm bet higgins i'll talk to you in just a second here on the roundtable on 97-3 the fan will be right back hey fantasy football fans this is zach 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weekly segment coming up right after this check traffic on ninety seven three the fan it's time for the super polished gift to be named smart baseball weekly segment with you know harris saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the pay in chula vista here's you know saris with bennon woods on ninety seven three the fan so i'm curious about something as we welcome you know in um with kyle hagashi oka in studio earlier this week gester no two days ago and he had a home run that night they did now you know talks to a lot of players we always worry that when you talk to someone but if they have a bad night they're gonna like associate it with us and they're gonna blame us right you know do you ever worry about that because you just talked to logan web and and he he went out and had a really bad game yesterday for the san francisco giant guy probably should have been focused on pitching and not showing your kid pitching grims you know let's be honest yeah no i mean i do think about it sometimes um one thing that i'm blessed uh with is uh i don't go into the clubhouse after the game and the reason i say that i'm blessed not to do that is that if they've had a bad game they don't look across the mic at me yes very good point to call very i think i think do the most for the most uh time i think that they talk to so many people that they forget but i do wonder like if i do like a big piece it's about like why they've gotten better or whatever yes and then they go through a bad stretch the the the reason though that that is always going to happen is that you're going to write about the players that are playing the best yeah and there's just natural you know baseball just naturally there's regression all the time so i went after it was really terrible and then they were great they were the best in baseball in june and you know it's like it's just always like that so if you write about somebody right when they're doing their best and because that's one of their most interesting uh of course they're gonna they're gonna have some hard time back it it does always feel like a jinx you know too because i was in here a couple of days ago and we had tim flanery and he told a couple hours of stories that were just brilliant about some of those old giants teams that you know very well um and i asked him you know do you think do you believe and he goes oh yeah i believe in this team and i'm like brought me to they they deserve a shot man they deserve to go out and get a starter in a bullpen maybe another bat whatever they need this team has really earned it and then you know a couple of clunkers in a row driving into work this morning going i wonder what we could get for dylan cease you know what i mean it's just a stupid stupid nature of a baseball season yeah but they are a decent team and i like that they make so much contact and i think would really would it hide though on offense is that they do way better when they hit power it's a power as well um i think was it last night they had six singles or something yes seven had six singles i think i think that's right yeah and it's just hard to live like that i know you know uh you know i love mud and i love the the announcer's but i hear this from other people that like you know it is a hit and you know just get on base but and you can string together hits it's just really hard to string together hits in today's environment you just think about the batting average now is the worst it's been since like 1968 the year of the picture so uh you get six singles you get zero runs for it you know it's like uh it is pretty hard actually to to string together a bunch of singles and so you know that's why i think you know many getting right and he's looked better and the Tetis coming back um that's enough where you're like okay this this offense is gonna get going you know saris is with us and i yesterday you and a couple of your colleagues from the athletic post to the story about the the 10th anniversary of stat cast the birth of what has become at least for me an integral part of watching baseball i mean i can't even imagine now watching a pot raise game without going and checking the exit velocity of that last hit and uh you know who's throwing hard the speeds and velocities how has the game changed based on this information that is now not just available to the you know the teams that have advanced metrics but now everybody can go and see these numbers and they're posted right instantly online during every single game you can follow along uh just like i was doing last night with the pot raise mariners game yeah for that piece i talked to Mike Petriello who did like an alternate stat cast edition of games early on where he you know they they broadcast with Eduardo Perez um and they they have David Cohen on sometimes and um you know Jason Benetti and they and they would do these games where it was like more static focused and he said you know that's coming back and we're gonna do something this year and i'm nervous because now every broadcast has the stuff in it and the regular Sunday night baseball has Eduardo Perez and David Cohen and and they took our producer that was producing the stat cast and they just made him the producer of the Sunday night baseball so it's like that's how ubiquitous it has become is that like now the guy who used to be the nerd on you know doing the nerd cast um has to figure out how to become even nerdier and i think that actually is a good way to kind of think about how it's changed the game ever that the nerdiness level has like gone through the roof and you know even if uh someone said to me like i don't care about this sort of stuff i talked to Tyler Glass now and he was like yes i look at it i look at the movement i look at everything i i look at other people's stuff i i i care about it it's helped me in my career and then James Paxton sitting right next to him said i i i can look at a pitch and know if it's good but even James Paxton knows about like naming conventions for movement he knows about inverted vertical frames he just he's decided he doesn't care about it you know what i mean like so it's come to the point where everybody knows this stuff it's everywhere um and i think the more successful players uh embrace it and use it uh to their benefit that jadie martina has just joined the Mets and um he when he arrived he changed the way the hitting reports were coming through from the hitting coach um after a couple weeks and he he literally brought weighted back to the team and and distributed them to other players and showed them how how to use them and um so you know that's the kind of there are these ambassadors uh that that know even more than the average player in our sort of proselytizing the data you know you know it's funny thinking about jadie martinez who was somebody we talked about in the off-season certainly the Padres were um probably interested along with a bunch of other teams coming in and i mean if you're the hitting coach of the New York man's isn't that eric Chavez yeah yeah he's like oh all right cool you bring it you know what i mean but then i just saw you retweeted the story we just talked about before we got you on about Walker Bueller who's like all right see you guys later i'm off to florida to go work at cressy sports performance uh instead of working with mark pryer and the los angeles dodgers who i'm assuming have every single gizmo gadget metric that one could ever want well i think one part is that it's um it would be it's a little difficult i think sometimes to um really revamp anything or work on stuff um in a competitive environment so it would have been hard for him to do it between starts with mark pryer right now on the dodgers i guess you could i l him but then you technically are supposed to send him to somewhere you know you it's rare to i l someone and he stays with the dodgers right you know so uh maybe his choice was do i go down to oklahoma city you know and work with people there um or do i go over there cressy and i think the modern players also empowered by the fact that uh there's all these independent labs pitching labs now um that they have their own contractual arrangements with and they can maybe feel some ownership over their own coaching um you know by by doing this so they can go to dry land they can go to tread they can go to um they can go to cressy and and and they feel like they are getting what they want and when i when i talk to uh people that are coaches or or people in in front offices about this um they were they they struggle with it you know they're annoyed because they would rather the player got the coaching that they want him to get right they they they know the right coaching um and there's different approaches to how to deal with that some some um front offices do something that's kind of cool i i talked to one front office they said oh we don't like we don't love teacher man teacher man's the guy who's errant judges um yeah i've heard a lot about that guy man oh my god he's so arrogant he's so arrogant i think he really has like one good idea but i don't think he has every good idea you know um and so and it worked for judge doesn't mean and it's going to work for everybody else judges pretty unique in terms of you know size strength quick this yeah so um you know so somebody was working with them and they didn't really love everything but what they did was they had their hitting coach take teacher man's course so they knew what teacher man was about and what he talked about so he could speak teacher man's language to this player they invited teacher man to spring to talk to the player and to other players and just made it seem like hey we're cool with him if that's what you believe and that's what you're into like we're gonna we're gonna support you in that but when the kid went through a stretch where he was over 20 or something he was a little more receptive to their own coach make sense yeah and so they they wanted they that's the struggle right now it's like how do i make it cool for you to go to ericressy but also i want you to become art prior that's that's kind of the the line people are walking right now smart baseball with you know seris every thursday here with men in woods and i think when we talk about the numbers you know and and you've kind of mentioned this before and so for some people it's too much they get overwhelmed by all the stats and they say i just want to go by feel but your brain fools you if you throw a good pit if you throw a pitch and someone swings and misses your brains gonna tell you i just threw a good pitch but you don't know that's true that's absolutely the batter may have just taken a bad swing at it for no reason whatsoever and the numbers will actually kind of tell you which pitches are the better ones if you can take your brain out of the equation sometimes is that is that really what the statistical revolution here in baseball is about i think so i mean that you know i think the opposite is is the one that's really happens even more which is that a pitcher of throws a pitch that's pretty good but one of the first times he throws it someone the anchor for a homer and then they never throw that pitch again and you're like dude that is a pretty good pitch and that's why it can be good to have something like stuff plus man look this this curve like ranks of the best here here are the cops you know oh this curve looks like this guy's curve in this guy those guys curves are good right like throw to him please you know you know so there's some of that which there's also some of like when a player is really struggling and you can come to them and say hey you know what you're barreling the ball your barrel rate is is on par with this guy's your your your exit losses are fine like you just you just just need to chill out and like the hits will come you know so the numbers can do a lot of different things they don't have to be overwhelming they don't have to be negative and one thing that i do think is as a fan you were allowed you were i i i don't begrudge anybody their opinion about how they want to consume the sport i understand that and i think that the best um the best broadcast teams the best you know the best shows um try to really meld you know what is happening on the field is what has happened historically the stories people love stories from back in the fifth day um and then just sort of gently fold in some of that so that you don't necessarily have to report the eggs of velocity on every homer but if somebody tonight hit the hardest hit homer of the year or ever for the pajamas or something that's when you sort of say it you know what i mean like you don't have to do it for every single one you don't have to you don't have to really shoehorn it in these numbers are supposed to tell a story you know it's interesting too i was watching uh i think it was the something on apple tv maybe i can't remember but frank war uh france he was on there and he yeah he kept calling people that like stats baseball pencil next the whole night oh those are those pencil next pencil next that pencil next i'm like all right this is a huge broadcast featuring two great teams pencil neck pencil neck pencil neck and i'm like oh my god and he's he's not an old guy i mean he's not he's not you know this isn't goose goshage here and i'm listening this going all right now i i there needs to be more of a happy medium you know there really does yeah um i just i thought that was i had i don't know if you'd heard that yeah i i think i think mud that does a great i think they do a great job i'm looking down to a great job and they're not they're not the nerdiest that i've ever had you know one of my favorite broadcasts is is john miller because john miller is he's not like a big stack guy but i also love boog shiambi yes um you know the cobs and he he folds more stats in um you know jason benendy with the white socks so there are different ways to be great just like there are different ways to be great as a as a as a baseball player and that's why i like these stats is because you can highlight so many different cool things about a player yeah this guy's like one of the five fastest players in big leagues you know this guy and you can do it a little bit more precision um i think than than without it and i don't know you can also just express regret at like the way that baseball has become very sort of uh uh walk in a blast you know sort of yeah more focused on power and and we've got three two outcomes like that's that has come from analysis but my component my my retort is you know that's not the analyst fault they're just trying to help their team win the game right it's not the pencil next fault they're all they're they're working for teams and trying to help players get better that's my passion is player development you know trying to help players get better they're trying to help their team win the if you don't like where this is going then you should you should be pro the the kind of rule changes that baseball is making 200 that's the reason i'm making those rules changes is to incentivize teams to to want the single again you know enjoy your all-star break i will chat with you again as we get the second half started and uh you will always appreciate everything you've done first half of the season was great thank you so let's talk to you not next week we'll give you the week yeah we cost second the first week of the second half we'll have you back in two weeks all right thanks god unless we get in a pitch yeah you know they'll just call you keep your phone on but just get oh yeah still might get attacked we'll see you know sarah smart smart baseball brought to you by seven malcicino and he said something and he always has some nugget that that i grab onto and it's so simple but as we've been talking about the pot raise and the roller coaster of the season and maybe this isn't as unexpected as it as it feels because when we start talking about how well they're playing and get excited of course they're about to turn because there there's only one way you can go when you've won 12 of 15 that's not going to last forever unless you're the greatest team in baseball history you're about to hit a rut and when they've lost four or five in a row and everything seems bleakest that's not going to last either and of course they're going to start winning and things are going to turn around again because that's just the nature of of life that you know things change and our attention gets focused when teams are either playing well or struggling but it's because it's probably about to change and go the other direction let's hope the pot raise are about to change and go the other direction again that's exactly what's been that been happening all season long and we'll see if that continues paulies get the round of report coming up next final hour before the roundtable on the fan so there's a debate going on in the chat right now my our buddy mica says that the numbers are turning fans off the game the younger fans and then tony says our kim's advanced metrics generating any value and i think the answer to that is yes i think absolutely 100% they are i mean we were talking about how son kim's value earlier in the day and you know he's what ninth in f-war for short stops and uh ninth by short stop in in the league according to f-war so i think yeah i mean that can help build value uh potentially in somebody that may be the casual fan now listen when you're talking about trading people there are no casual gms you know kevin the kevin towers of the world are gone it doesn't exist you won't get the job if you're like no c to their parents no no no one there nobody goes there's like how do i tell a good baseball player i listen i can hear a good baseball i can hear it i can smell it i smell it in him i look in his eyes i don't know it means no confidence that's right bro there's that doesn't exist anymore okay so every single gm knows how to create value out of whatever player they have conversely every other gm that they're dealing with knows how to take some of that value away it's quite an art form now there is value beyond the numbers and if you don't acknowledge that then you're missing some of the greatness of the game there are players who are more than just the sum of their numbers wouldn't you agree with that yeah they're you know chemistry character you know make up some makeup grit whatever you want to call it still a good thing to have in a baseball player you know but you can't ignore the numbers either just because you like a guy's grit or makeup correct they have to also produce there is a balance there for sure and there is still a place in the game for some of those old school evaluation there's no question but there's no way you can just ignore the numbers and go with your gut the problem is is i don't see a lot of the the numbers people you know there needs to be a mutual respect between both that's what i've always said there's got to be a little bit of this a little bit of that and you know you're in a little bit of luck your brain lies to you hundred percent it will reinforce what you already believe if you think hasan kim is a good ballplayer then you'll remember his line drive yep you'll remember the diving plays that he makes and you'll kind of ignore some of the errors and some of the slumps if you think hossan kim isn't a good shortstop then you'll ignore some of the good plays that he makes and you'll remember all the errors your brain wants to reinforce what you already believe that's what the numbers can do they can tell you my brain's been tricking me a little bit i didn't think hossan kim kim was quite that good how many times have we gone and pulled up some of these page went wow i'm okay all right i was completely wrong yes he's not striking out all the time i take take louise campusana early in the season a lot of praise for campy hitting you know three hundred getting tons of hits but if you went to his stat cast page you would have seen that it was a bit of a mirage that the balls weren't being hit hard that they weren't barreled up and that likely if he continues on this path things will regress and he'll go into a slump when the balls don't fall in well guess what happened exactly that sometimes it is a telling indicator of the future that the numbers that you're seeing that are actually producing which are important you want obviously you have to actually produce on the field but you can say man but this isn't necessarily something that's sustainable correct sustainable in 162 game season is of the utmost importance is what i'm doing sustainable if it is great you know i'm gonna have my ups and have my downs if i'm just hitting ass out flares into right field and getting knocks on them it's not going to last for 162 it may not last for six and part of what jerks and pro far has said this year is that he is finally just trusting his game not worrying so much when there's a bad game or a slump doesn't need to tinker with anything yeah yeah just just trust just trust yeah numbers say i'm decent player guess what i'm just going to trust it and move forward and that can be hard to do because we all when things aren't going well think we need to do something and make changes and if we're not we feel like we're not if you're not doing our job we're lazy we're not doing our job but sometimes the right thing to do it's nothing leave it alone leave it alone just like the rinder report just leave it alone let him do his thing do your thing poly and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rinder report welcome to the rinder report with paul rinder hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rinder report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get over here all right all right all right morning gentlemen morning buddy how are we doing good good let's see got a couple of stories here for you we will start off in the world of baseball baseball media side story yesterday how do you guys feel about peat rows where you guys out on peat rows in 2024 love the player the person's not my favorite i mean if if you know if i'm being completely honest like i read some stuff about it yesterday because i know where you're going here and i read an article yesterday i went yeah i'd forgotten most of this uh underage 15 year old girl in Cincinnati you know that he had a long long relationship she's 15 years old he was playing for the rats it's not good it's not good not asking him to babysit my kids anytime soon no but he i love the player but i also he's polarizing he's a polarizing cat you know he best hitters of all time not in the hall of fame and i just i remember watching him as a kid and be like god dang that guy gives it you know charlie also you get that nickname and uh and then i remember vividly the betting the scandals that came and i just remember sitting like the sports center was still fairly new back then i just remember being riveted and being like oh my god march shot peat rows the betting it was incredible well yesterday uh HBO announced a four part documentary watching every second you will okay every effing second that's what i was getting at it's a four four part documentary on the life and career of peat rows it's called charlie hustle in the matter of peat rows every second of it it will air on wednesday the 24th and thursday july 25th two episodes each day so you'll have it you know done in 48 hours and uh yeah i was reading it along here a little bit uh fascinating portrait of a complex individual full of contradictions one seeking redemption but not not quite ready for full atonement he will not he will like won't they told him back then just apologize he's like no we can we can make this work just apologize no contrition uh right you have anybody else everyone wants redemption but redemption requires some contrition spread introspection and contrition yeah she's never really totally been able to do uh-huh then interview what he has you've had to absolutely force out of him like like squeeze over like decking suggest just squeeze like a drop of contrition out of peat rows has been the hardest thing in the world like my six-year-old uh interviewed in the film and the four-part documentary peat rows isn't it of course he's not an executive producer so i don't know how much say he had in like the final cut or anything like that but he isn't it his son peat rows juniors in it mike schmidt kangriphy senior uh adora perez al michaels marty brenneman john miller so a lot of big names and uh yeah they've got all the descriptions out for each four all four of the episodes here's uh he's a pretty it's a prime example of art artist yeah that's it prime example here's a little bit of trailer see if it sells you if you're not if you're on the fence about it or not this was baseball's Watergate one of the game's greatest players have stained the game the cirrhosis accepted baseball's ultimate section lifetime and eligibility till this day i don't think they had evidence would have lasted in court about me bet on baseball we don't appreciate it getting reinstated he has to participate and show that he wants it i went baseball and peat rows to be friends so i can say i'm not an outsider looking in what he did for me was invaluable pizza's own worst enemy should peat rows be in the hall of fame integrity still matters Shakespeare what i don't feel they with the story all it is been on baseball they dropped banks and i was wrong by not coming clean originally but i played the game right so we're done because i got to go make a bet no i'm just kidding yeah the betting is the betting but the the the other story is really gnarly and and um he did have the greatest quote i've ever heard i'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball i i watched Ken Burns baseball when that came out and of all the quotes that stuck with me forever is i would walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball and i went you got me what stuck with me about that trailer was when he said to this day i don't think they had evidence that would have held up in a courtroom doesn't matter even you later have a trailer admit well i did baton should have come clean i did do it i did who cares what specific evidence they had against you you knew you did it they knew you did it mmm and you tried to make everyone think that you didn't do it mmm so tough well i'm probably gonna watch i'm watching every second of it every second that's in a couple of weeks uh also saw this clip making the rounds yesterday some sports radio fun uh this didn't remind me of anyone in particular that i know for sure but uh michael k from w_f_a_n_ or no he's espium 1000 i think out there where's michael no he's does he know he's isn't he on the w_f_a_n_ he's on the yes now yes network and 98.7 esp m yes p_n okay so the other the new york sports radio out there and uh they got a guy named mike from new jersey call in and uh i'll just let this clip play for itself michael k just goes off on this sports radio caller and you will never big michael k will never criticize the Yankees probably hang up on me but never you want me you know what chakra if you want me to hang up on you know i'm not gonna hang up on you i'm gonna let you spoon your nonsense all i do is sit here and criticize the eighties every day are you are you hard of hearing are you hard of hearing mike what what do you say about food what do you say about i i tell you he is managing and no no no who doesn't know are you a met fan or you ain't even you have met fan or a fan what are you yes you're a fan i have said that boone acts in concert with the front office i'm giving you reasons what's going on i have said over and over they have a chance of falling out of the postseason what do you want me to do i don't understand what you want me to do mike don't find it somewhere else don't find it somewhere else mike tell me who's saying stuff like this again you want you want me to hang up on you you clown you love me to hang up on you i am gonna let you bury yourself i'm not gonna hang up on you you deserve to be exposed to the moron go continue to go you've got the radio go mike g man it's it's it's uncanny it's on it's like adding a new york accent to a certain host that we know very well and of course mean Annie Halberd Annie Halberd just like her just like Annie i said nobody i mean the only thing he didn't say was dude i don't say it twice i said it twice dude arid boots gotta go i said it twice dude uh how bad would it suck to live in new york if you were a fan of one of those teams and you still had to cover the other team because they're they have that all over like one that one guy sells like a Yankee or a Met fan and then michael k is obviously it works for the Yankees but like no i think the Mets should trade so it's a of course you do you're a Yankee fan you bomb and you're only tough to maintain your credibility if you are a fan of one of the horrible horrible but you don't want to just be mr neutral like you can't be i'm not a fan of either of the Yankees or the Mets right simply an impartial observer of the whole thing you're a bomb i don't say it twice dude i say what you're hearing dude i said you're hearing what i said i'll put the other one on that there is no other one that's it when we heard it was you're on the horn bro i don't give a what you heard i'm sending you what was said whatever you think you heard i don't care damn dude like you're out of your mind i give you the evidence i'm giving you the evidence that's what was said on the radio that's what was said like are you kidding i gave you what i said i didn't say it again hey your brain plays tricks on you that woods brings you the stat cast numbers of what was actually said yeah okay i just sent you away you can't trust your own brain sometimes yeah it was uh any money since i've never heard such an aggressive dude in my life before adam this sounds like every phone call i have with with steve woods yeah oh my god maybe adam and i have had some bangers bangers uh on the phone yeah you're a little passionate sorry don't say it twice dude so good identical michael k identical that's great i saw that yesterday i was like i hope poly brings that with us michael k has a boot liquor i think when you work for a team there's always a fine line you have to walk i appreciate and i respect listen dude a guy like jesse agler yeah who will give us honest opinion oh yes but of course he can't simply just come on and just trash everything about the team sure you know he's team employee he's you know on the pot raise payroll but he also is not going to lie to you about the team i believe jesse will not he will not tell lies about the sandy pot raise now he may not he may not accentuate some of the negative sometimes which i totally understand but he's not going to just bald face lie and say the pot raise are are red when you know that they're blue bent it the funny part about this job and when you when you hear stuff like that and i've got that before so you're telling me then whoever you are mike and you work at qualcom you are you're an engineer you walk into your ceo's office and you're like you're a bum ruining this country you suck you're a loser i just tell it like it is bro i'm no boat liquor like everybody has a boss everybody on the planet they act like media guys don't like we don't have a boss or sometimes and it's like bro i can't you know i can't go nuclear all the time i went nuclear on that guy because that guy was calling me a liar but we've always said on this show you're going to get how you're genuinely feeling genuinely some days the pot raise losses devastate me some days like today when i'm going to vacation i'm like it's not my problem i'll watch tomorrow i'm into it it's never your problem it's not my problem but holy smoke we can't fix them yeah i can't fix them well we're up against the clock so i i had a hi hey hey hey i don't we don't need to get to it you just want to skip what the best part of the day all right tease it and we'll come back yeah all right just be careful yeah we're gonna be very careful just think about it over the break how you want to handle this if you're really going in that direction you guys want to google the couple in georgia and a margarita that does not want to do this you can think about this think twice either way we're going to give away some john fogordy tickets when we come back as well and don't forget the round table is coming up at the top of the hour all ahead and woods' vacation is about 43 minutes away right here on san diego's number one sports station back after traffic you're at 97.3 of a fail i'd be very careful so yes little ears maybe turn the tongue down for little ears yeah does that include me mature this is like kind of a little ear here i want you to hear every every second a tour with the mature uh there was a viral clip going around on the social medias yesterday now this actually happened a couple of months ago but police just found out about it after the video went viral and i believe the woman involved it may have ratted on herself like turned herself in but um there was a couple in georgia way across georgia now they're a couple yes okay they know each other joe and mary joe boyette and mary sweat the turn name boyette and sweat in the mornings you're in georgia it's boyette and sweat thanks for tuning in brave that and the san diego to take it on the pod race they are uh facing charges for an act that they committed at uh rodeo mexican restaurants okay and way across rodeo mexican restaurant i bet it's so good too text mex we're thinking here it's georgia so no even worse southern mex just rodeo okay go ahead adam's lurking outside the studio like is he just gonna run in and vote a plug at any point i mean he's not listening you need do you need us okay are we good okay i guess he's not listed so the video which you can pretty much see pretty all of it pretty clearly what's happening uh she'll put it in the chat or no no no she was mary don't understand this kind of hiking up her dress yep the dress goes up and then everything is exposed and she's in a booth on the on her knees right with a rear end out right and uh what's joe joe boyette took a picture of margarita then uh just to clear it up i don't think this is a frozen frozen it was uh it was just sort of mixed a mixed margarita on the rocks yes and he's got the picture and on a funnel and uh funnel he used try to use the funnel to drink the margarita after he had poured it down that's it okay that's it even i know whatever you're heading here yeah Brandon in the checklist stop stop beating her on the bush i said hey man we're on radio still this isn't just on youtube so i've heard the the expression that's used when you when you drink an alcoholic drink but not through the normal orifice right as it were the blank chug right right and i i i this is not that this is i think we're more like a luge and i've never totally understood the concept necessarily yeah well what is the funnel for well the funnel didn't work so he threw the funnel away okay and then just did the luge or the like the the the back of the so they were arrested for what indecent exposure all kinds of stuff really a real big mess get arrested for excessive sticky mess in a booth a luge i i need you to isolate yourself saying luge wasting a perfectly good picture of margaritas i mean drunk do you have to be like get that scared up i'm gonna do that now luge we talked that margarita luge we talked about now at the bottom so that is one thing that we will not be doing on summer break next week now ready get that scared up and now is it is it a urban legend or is it medical fact that the alcohol absorbs faster into your system i don't know through alternate means of ingestion so i heard uh the old rumor about steve nix is that she did so much blow that she couldn't do it through her nose anymore so she went another direction and it worked apparently that that is a desire like they'd like you'll actually like a friendly couple we have the mug shot up yeah they do they do our chat they look fairly normal i not what is her she's gridded he looks like he's done this before you see there's a glimpse of pride in his eye and my first rodeo mexican restaurant you damn right look at his face damn right i did not do it again we're doing it tomorrow look at him there is some pride there there's a there's a pride in the eye tmz says yeah it happened three months ago but at least just found out about it after mary ratted on herself she was upset after someone leaked the video online and wanted cops to arrest the person and then instead her and joe were arrested for public indecency uh the restaurant put out a statement saying this was unacceptable and not reflective of the family friendly dining experience that they strive for at rodeo mexican restaurant i take my family out for a nice dinner we open the door she's on off what she's like what the hell oh yeah all right now let's go turn around dance and come back later holy crap the face i cannot get over his face hell yeah hell yeah i mean here that some of the employees of the restaurant may also face action or charges for inappropriate action because according to reports one of the restaurant employees is the one that gave the joe the funnel how you got a funnel back hey i'm sorry again i apologize for being the unaware one which way are you doing the the funnel a funnel hasn't it's a small size i don't know which hairband you can see i don't know how it's gonna help i'm not gonna be adding a funnel to it pouring something into the funnel yeah i can see if you're trying to pull but then it's like uh then it like uh you know what i mean i don't know i should have to break you know we'll get a better understanding of it thank you Pauli really great right now unfortunately for this restaurant anytime you google now rodeo mexican restaurant like all i wanted to know was what was on the menu like the pancitos or corn tortilla chips smothered with queso black beans sour cream guacamole pico de gallo and pickled jalapenos well those are nachos why are big 12 fan chitos it's just nachos of course you go look at the menu the mini changas oh god i love a chimney chongo let's go to break all right uh we will come back we got our final segment of benowitz first we got the uh john fogordi tickets to give away he is not affiliated at all with the rhyme will report i would like to win two tickets to the rainy shell september fourth to see john fogordi in concert be our fifth caller at eight three three two eight eight zero ninety seven three eight three two eight eight zero ninety seven three tickets are on sale now at ticket master dot com but you can win them right now at eight three three two eight eight zero ninety seven three back to wrap things up before the round table next year on ninety seven three the fam couple updates uh on stories we've talked about in the past uh yesterday mentioned uh torrey pines hilam taylor fritts was in the quarterfinals at wimbledon so close looking to get to the semis and it was a really good match against lorenzo moussette taylor fritts won the first set lost the second one in a tiebreaker we were on the air that was top set seven six seven five in the tiebreaker that was probably the match right there because moussette won the third set fritts came back though to win the fourth set but then in the end moussette took the the last set six one and advanced to the semi-finals that that second set was probably the decider there that tiebreaker just a point or two making the difference is uh yeah taylor fritts is eliminated in the wimbledon quarterfinals how many games do you play total in a in a dentist mat because they went so probably around in probably around 50 oh my god now remember that that one match a few years ago isner and mohut and it was like what was it like 65 63 and the fifth set oh my god like a hundred oh my god i have 28 games in the one set because there was no tiebreakers back then and you had to go longest ten inch past in history it was uh first round men single to do this was 2010 isner bahut and find out exactly how 11 hours and five minutes yeah but how many games how many games did it go in the fifth set it was 11 and now and 11 i mean 70 to 68 60 to 68 in the fifth set normal you have to get to six to win they've already played they've already played four sets that would be like a baseball game going to the i don't know 137th inning so you decided it it says the match began at 613 British time and at 907 p.m. due to the feeding daylight play was suspended before the start of the fifth set after resuming on wednesday the 23rd at 205 p.m. the record for the longest match was broken at 545 play continued until the final set was tied 59 games all at which point the daylight faded again three days so play was suspended once more uh just after 9 p.m. they resumed at 3 40 p.m. on thursday and eventually he won uh isner won the match at 4 47 the final set time eight hours and 11 minutes you know that tennis when it started just the final set was eight hours and yeah i read that when tennis like when they started it was invented uh it was just like a leisurely game a gentlemanly game and they used you're supposed to actually hit it back to the person to get it to get the person yeah so it's such an and and even pro tennis was that way and it was just i'm looking at you right in the eye and i'm like here you go if you hit it right back here you go it's a faux pas if you actually like hit a winner like too far away from the person you try to like lob one if you try to smash one that was a very gosh that was amazing that's amazing well uh baseball started that way as well pitchers pitchers were supposed to like throw batting practice in the beginning of baseball like your job was to throw it in there that's amazing and eventually obviously it evolved where the pitchers job became to try to get the guy out yeah at home plate yeah not just your competitive spirit not just throw it in there for you to hit it just got a uh uh shot of uh baby michado's camp my son is at right now one of our tier once chris is one of the coaches and uh yeah they're just probably hanging out big doing the big speech all the little kids out there michado jersey looks pretty sweet uh out at helix so gonna run down there and check that out and see how uh how everything's going today the other story update is from uh a while ago and this one is a sad one but um the passing of chan burrows they just released oh man corners report and um we know that chan burrows died at the parking lot of the little league fields on may ninth at the age of 43 the coroner said uh after performing the uh the test that that he died of a fentanyl intoxication overdose unfortunately which is uh i don't know it's gonna make it any sadder it's it's sad enough that he's gone to begin with but obviously uh you know i say that just as you know the cautionary tale for anybody out there you don't know whether he was taking it intentionally or not but you know there's so many chances now where it gets in your system and it can just do such devastating devastating damage uh including death and and that's what uh caused the the death of chan burrows oh super super sad we have a shout out to his family too did you see that one this morning it's actually a shout out to her family you guys see who passed away actress actress poly hang on i gotta get the shout out to her family that's a whole different drop them yes this is bbc news we're interrupting our schedules for the following announcement bucking in palace has announced the death of her majesty shelly duvall has passed on then and uh had a really really really difficult life uh especially near the end she passed away she is 75 years old for those in the um the younger set famous roles that you might be aware of for shelly duvall olive oil in the movie pop up with robin williams robin williams yeah a classic uh when we were kids benny and then of course the shining i mean uh jenny wendy torris uh and and i when i think of that role you there's not a better actress in the world that you could have put in that role no one nobody could have been better than that uh so she passed away been 75 years old had been in really really poor health uh the last few years and uh just an incredible incredible actress man dynamite drop it i'm do you have anything else yet i really have anything else to add so why don't we take our last check of traffic here how let's do that nice three the fan sorry i didn't have anything to jump in with any more thoughts on on shelly duvall okay you get nervous for the uh round table yeah yeah a little bit oh your rivals back yes starting when jr is uh scheduled to be here hope you're taking your place today actually in the round table no no he works here too right it's not filling in for you it's not filling in for me no i'm i'm missing one he's not special guess no no it's not taking my place he also works here been traveling here's his own keycard but you you have been wanting to create a rivalry with him for some dumb reason lately you've really been he just gives me a lot of side eyes when i make comments during the round table he gives me a lot of side-as he gives everybody a lot of side-as he's smart he's the only big leaguer in there he's got to listen to me he's got a different perspective that's why i like having him in the round table so much he's got to listen to me you kreg elston and chris elo be like here's what they should do like wouldn't you be what if you had to sit in there with four people that didn't know anything but never did professional radio they're like here's what you should believe me i'm constantly thinking about how tony is judging us the entire time me too absolutely i just i like to just ask him questions i don't ask i was like hey in that situation would you blah blah blah but i also feel like he can sometimes be that perspective that he has as a former play so good but he can also be compromised a little bit he will always he always will side with the players you will always side with the players it's a good point good point and while we probably as fans go too far in the other direction of being critical and like wondering what what are you doing there tony sometimes i think is so empathetic to how difficult it is and i do understand it's such a difficult game but he's gonna side with the players sure more often than not because he was one yeah right and grew up grew up i mean who who else knows the game better than that guy with the way he grew up and then of course what he did uh what he did i want tony to know i want him to understand that i do understand that part of it right not oblivious i've talked to enough big leaguers i know how difficult the game is i want mike shilt to understand that as well yeah that we're not yes we are two babbling heads on the radio in the morning and we talk a lot of silly things and we feel a lot of time like but yes but i'd also like to think that we are savvy enough as baseball observers and fans to recognize the difficulty and you know just the toughness of being a major league manager or a major league player i take all of my opinions and i put them through that lens first before i say anything and just you know spew it out i understand that it's 162 game season one game does not make the entire year players will go through slumps and they will go through um you know surges throughout the course of that season i understand all that and i i add it to my equation when i'm thinking i'm not completely oblivious to that and i'd like mike shilt i want to make sure tony gwen jr understands that i am not ignoring that completely there also are legitimate time for you can add your opinion and sometimes criticism of your team isn't that fair bro i listened to ron darling last night um there was a clip going around louis severino was pitching for the meds and you know darling pitched he's also a broadcaster pitched very well right and severino didn't back up home plate and he's like that's it's inexcusable saw that absolutely inexcusable cannot happen and tony is critical at times too and when he is believe me i take notice when when tony is critical because i know that he he has seen something that is worth observing that's imagining when he brings it up you know he won't say he won't just off the cuff be mad at something and you know let it spit out but when he notices something he will tell you and he will be critical for sure yeah no question about it absolutely no question about it so yeah it does kind of stick out more when he does it right you're like oh you you really you really messed up because it's it's now a glaring uh something that happened well i hope you guys get in a huge fight today all right more than any not a fist fight because that that wouldn't go well for me i mean i'm bigger than he is but he's a lot faster and stronger and flier and younger and younger yeah for handsome and all of them i mean hansoms in the eyes that we hold her not really and it's just not really objecting on us not in this case i think it's uh i think it's a matter of preference in this way i know it's just objectively he's more hesitant it's an objective fact yes it's just just it's more handsome than i am correct but yeah there's not one person that could disagree with that statement i don't think so really i don't think so huh hannon and carol if he compared you to tony guin jr she probably take tony guin jr probably not definitely you're saying that everyone would definitely take tony guin jr over me you say he's just more handsome no she would say she'd say he's more handsome than you like if you had a hundred people out there and you line me next to tony you're saying all 100 would say tony is better looking correct there wouldn't be one out there not one though he's he's more because if there was one that it would be subjective right and that would be that would be everyone can have their own opinion you're saying this is a fact it's fact this is yeah this is a hundred to none this is a fact yeah he's a handsome dude i also don't want to kick my ass so i'll at least yes Ben all right sorry about it sorry yeah there's look there's things that you just wear and then you know there's things that are that could be debated that's not one of them i mean some people just prefer a bigger guy maybe a portly or like a bigger dude yeah maybe but i think handsome is different handsome is not fit your face his face objectively just his features is that what's wrong with my features he's just more he's got better one so i need to take the glasses off does that now am i no because then you see that mole right there see that that gets you now you can hide that now i don't see it still still still there everyone i thought that it was a that you have like you know something on your face yes because i've never seen it before i go oh no he's on tv he's got chocolate face this is like opening day you know have you ever studied tony's face could he possibly have a ball all the time a mark or two there no very handsome very handsome fella hmm yep sorry i'm i'm really sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feeling i'm saying object like this you just know he's more handsome i mean i wasn't expecting it to be like 50/50 split here oh it's definitely not going to be but i do feel like sometimes you're a little bit delusional like with your i think i could beat steve segomoto at dawn he can probably but i i would be as good of a i'd be a good of a ride i don't think i'd need a path the time i'm saying maybe like one matter no never like a hundred just like with the tony favor it's like one out of a hundred is all i'm looking for never i just want to get you to realize lightning strikes nope circumstances are just perfect all all the of the universe comes into mind a vision impaired lady who might find you more handsome than tony but you're blind girl just on vocal vocal quality maybe vocal quality maybe uh if she feels around so like what she feels but visually i'm sorry hmm this one's gonna roll uh to him all right fair enough all right i'm sorry i i'm not trying to hurt your feelings last question are you planning on stealing some roundtable pizza on your way out before you don't go into this debate in today's round table you know be a good move is to sit in there for like 10 minutes and just watch you guys do the round table just really rub it in eat some pizza no i'm not gonna need jerk i want to get over to camp sitting there yep i'm gonna go uh get over to camp seat bow my buddy who's uh flying in today from texas he's already delayed a little bit so gotta pick up bow bring him down there and uh you know get on uh get on we're on with the vacation this weekend but well haven't you got a really good time you will be back on monday yeah please be back on monday calling i will hold down the fort tomorrow we will talk to mike shilt at nine o'clock uh you know hopefully be happy i'm out hopefully they'll win tonight and somehow and you know we'll have a a positive victory to talk about tomorrow i know they don't play i was just looking at you like really unlikely no he's on he's insane that would be nice uh but more than likely they'll still be on a four-game loosing streak we'll talk to mike shilt tomorrow for sure and uh we'll just have to just have to work our way through it i'm so sorry he does not sorry enough to come in but i am sorry it'll be okay we'll uh we'll manage our way through it tomorrow no doubt about it and then i would as you'll be back on monday for the rest of you though please stay tuned join us for the uh 97-3 the fan pot raise round table coming up commercial free next presented by san diego round table pizza and then any else then we'll be on at 11 o'clock after the uh the round table so that's it for us or executive producer and imaging director paul ryanville for the soon probably now vacationing steven woods i bet higgins i'll talk to you in just a second here on the round table a 97-3 the fan will be right back so there's a debate going on in the chat right now um my our buddy mike who says that the numbers are turning fans off the game the younger fans and then tony says our kims advanced metrics generating any value and i think the answer to that is yes i think absolutely 100% they are i mean we were talking about hasan kim's value earlier in the day and um you know he's what ninth in in f4 for short stops and uh ninth by short stop in in the league according to f4 so i think yeah i mean that can help build value uh potentially in somebody that maybe the casual fan now listen when you're talking about trading people there are no casual gms you know kevin the kevin towers of the world are gone it doesn't exist you won't get the job if you're like no see to their pain no dude no no nobody goes there's like how do i tell a good baseball player oh listen i can hear a good baseball i can hear it i can smell it i smell it in him i look in his eyes i don't know it means no confidence that's right bro there's that doesn't exist anymore okay so every single gm knows how to create value out of whatever player they have conversely every other gm that they're dealing with knows how to take some of that value away it's quite an art form now there is value beyond the numbers and if you don't acknowledge that then you're missing some of the greatness of the game there are players who are more than just the sum of their numbers wouldn't you agree with that yeah they're you know chemistry character you know make up some makeup grit whatever you want to call it it's still a good thing to have in a baseball player you know but you can't ignore the numbers either just because you like a guy's grit or makeup correct they have to also produce there is a balance there for sure and there is still a place in the game for some of those old school evaluations there's no question but there's no way you can just ignore the numbers and go with your gut the problem is is i don't see a lot of the the numbers people you know there needs to be a mutual respect between both that's what i've always said there's got to be a little bit of this little bit of that and you know you're in a little bit of luck your brain lies to you 100 percent it will it will reinforce what you already believe if you think hasan kim is a good ballplayer then you'll remember his line drive yep you'll remember the diving plays that he makes and you'll kind of ignore some of the errors and some of the slumps if you think hasan kim isn't a good shortstop then you'll ignore some of the good plays that he makes and you'll remember all the errors your brain wants to reinforce what you already believe that's what the numbers can do they can tell you my brain's been tricking me a little bit and i didn't think hasan kim kim was quite that good how many times have we gone and pulled up some of these page and went wow i'm okay all right i was completely wrong yes he's not striking out all the time take louis campusana early in the season a lot of praise for campy hitting you know 300 getting tons of hits but if you went to his stat cast page you would have seen that it was a bit of a mirage that the balls weren't being hit hard that they weren't barreled up and that likely if he continues on this path things will regress and he'll go into a slump when the balls don't fall in well guess what happened exactly that sometimes it is a telling indicator of the future that the numbers that you're seeing that are actually producing which are important you want obviously you have to actually produce on the field but you can say man but this isn't necessarily something that's sustainable correct sustainable in 162 game season is of the utmost importance is what i'm doing sustainable if it is great you know i'm gonna have my ups i'm gonna have my downs if i'm just hitting ass out flares into right field and getting knocks on him it's not going to last for 162 it may not last for six and part of what jerks and pro far has said this year is that he is finally just trusting his game not worrying so much when there's a bad game or a slump doesn't need to tinker with anything yeah yeah just just trust just trust yeah numbers say i'm decent player guess what i'm just going to trust it and move forward and that can be hard to do because we all when things aren't going well think we need to do something and make changes and if we're not we feel like we're not if you're not doing our job lazy we're not doing our job but sometimes the right thing to do it's nothing leave it alone leave it alone just like the rindor port just leave it alone let him do his thing do your thing poly and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rindel report now tune the to the mother greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on ninety seven three the fan are you ready to bless the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a whole year all right all right all right all right all right all right morning gentlemen morning buddy how we doing good good let's see got a couple of stories here for you we will start off uh in the world of baseball baseball media side story yesterday how do you guys feel about peat rose where you guys out on peat rose uh in 2024 love the player the person's not my favorite i mean if if you know if i'm being completely honest like i read some stuff about it yesterday because i know where you're going here and i read an article yesterday i went yeah i'd forgotten most of this uh under age 15-year-old girl in Cincinnati you know that he had a long long relationship she's 15 years old he was playing for the rats it's not good it's not good not asking him to babysit my kids anytime soon no but he i love the player but i also he's he's a polarizing he's a polarizing cat you know he best hitters of all time not in the hall of fame and i just i remember watching him as a kid and be like god dang that guy that guy gives it you know charlie also you get that nickname and uh and then i remember vividly the betting the scandals that came and i just remember sitting like the sports center was still fairly new back then i just remember being riveted and being like oh my god march shot peat rose the betting it was incredible well yesterday uh HBO announced a four-part documentary watching every second you will okay every effing second that's what i was getting at it's a four four part documentary on the life and career of peat rose it's called charlie hustle in the matter of peat rose every second of it it will air on wednesday the 24th and thursday july 25th two episodes each day so you'll have it you know done in 48 hours and uh yeah i was reading it along here a little bit uh fascinating portrait of a complex individual full of contradictions one seeking redemption but not not quite ready for full atonement he will not he will like won't they told him back then just apologize he's like no we can we can make this work just apologize no contrition uh might you have anybody else everyone wants redemption but redemption requires some contrition spread introspection and contrition and she's never really totally been able to do uh uh there's interview what he has you've had to absolutely force out of him like like squeeze over like deck yes just squeeze like a drop of contrition out of peat rose has been the hardest thing in the world like my six-year-old uh interviewed in the film and the four-part documentary peat rose isn't it of course he's not an executive producer so i don't know how much say he had in like the final cut or anything like that but he isn't it his son peat rose juniors in it mike smit kangrife senior uh adora perez al michaels marty brennan john miller so a lot of big names and uh yeah they've got all the descriptions out for each four all four of the episodes here's uh he's a pretty he's it's a prime example of art artist yeah that's it prime example here's a little bit of trailer see if it sells you if you're not if you're on the fence about it or not this was baseball's Watergate one of the game's greatest players has stained the game the cirrhosis accepted baseball's ultimate sanction lifetime and eligibility till this day i don't think they had the evidence would have lasted in court about me bet on baseball we don't appreciate it getting reinstated he has to participate and show that he wants it i went baseball and peat rose to be friends so i can say i'm not an outsider looking in what he did for me was invaluable pizza's own worst enemy should peat rose be in the hall of fame integrity still matters Shakespeare would have a field day with his story oh it has been on baseball he dropped banks and i was wrong by not coming clean originally but i played the game right so we're telling because i got to go make a bet no i'm just kidding yeah the betting is the betting but the the the other story is really gnarly and and um he did have the greatest quote i've ever heard i'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball i watched Ken Burns baseball when that came out and of all the quotes that stuck with me forever is i would walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball and i went you got me what stuck with me about that trailer was when he said to this day i don't think they had evidence that would have held up in a courtroom doesn't matter even you later in the trailer admit well i did that i did come clean i did do it who cares what specific evidence they had against you you knew you did it they knew you did it and you tried to make everyone think that you didn't do it so tough well i'm probably going to watch i'm watching every second of it every second that's in a couple of weeks uh also saw this clip making the rounds yesterday some sports radio fun uh this didn't remind me of anyone in particular that i know for sure but uh michael k from wf a n or no he's espa m one thousand i think out there where's my oh he's does he wf a wf a n he's on the yes now yes network and for t8.7 esp n esp ok so the other the new york sports radio out there and uh they got a guy named mike from new jersey call in and uh i'll just let this clip play for itself michael k just goes off on this sports radio caller and you will never big michael k will never criticize the Yankees probably hang up on me but never you want me you know i check off you want me to hang up on you know i'm not going to hang up on you i'm going to let you spoon your nonsense all i do is sit here and criticize the Yankees every day are you are you hard of hearing are you hard of hearing mike what do you say about food what do you say about i tell you he is managing and no no no are you a met fan or a fan you have met fan or a fan what are you you're a fan i have said that boond accent concert with the front office i'm giving you reasons what's going on i have said over and over they have a chance of falling out of the postseason what do you want me to do i don't understand what you want me to do mike don't find it somewhere else don't find it somewhere else mike tell me who's saying stuff like this you hang up michael you'll hang up again you want but you want me to hang up on you you clown you want me to hang up on you i am going to let you bury yourself i'm not going to hang up on you you deserve to be exposed to the moron go continue to go you've got the radio go mike go g man it's it's it's uncanny it's it's like adding a new york accent to a certain host but we know very well and of course mean any halberd any halberd just like her just like any i said nobody i mean yeah the only thing you didn't say was dude i don't say it twice i said it twice dude erin boond's got to go i said it twice dude uh how bad would it suck to live in new york if you were a fan of one of those teams and you still had to cover the other team because they're they have that all over like one that one guy sells like a yankie or a met fan and then michael kays obviously you know works the Yankees but like no i think the Mets should trade so it's like of course you do you're a yank you're a yankie fan you bum and you're only tough to maintain your credibility if you are a fan of one of you horrible horrible but you don't want to just be mr neutral like you can't i'm not a fan of either of the Yankees or the Mets right simply an impartial observer of the whole thing i don't say it twice dude i say what you're hearing dude i said you're hearing what i said that there is no other one that's it bro i don't give a what you heard i'm sending you what was said whatever you think you heard i don't care damn dude like you're out of your mind i give you the evidence i'm giving you the evidence that's what was said on the radio that's what was said like are you kidding i gave you what i said i didn't say it again hey your brain plays tricks on you that woods brings you the stack cast numbers of what was actually said yeah i gave you i just sent you one you can't trust your own brain sometimes yeah there was uh any money says i've never heard such an aggressive dude in my life before adam this sounds like every phone call i have with with steve woods yeah oh my god maybe adam and i have had some bangers bangers uh on the phone yeah you're a little passionate sorry don't say it twice dude so good identical michael k identical that's great i saw that yesterday i was like i hope poly brings up with it and michael says michael k is a boot liquor i think when you work for a team there's always a fine line you have to walk i appreciate and i respect listen dude a guy like jesse agler yeah who will give us honest opinion oh yeah but of course he can't simply just come on and just trash everything about the team sure you know he's team employee he's you know on the pot raise payroll but he also is not going to lie to you about the tea i believe jesse will not he will not tell lies about sandy potter now he may not he may not accentuate some of the negative sometimes which i totally understand but he's not going to just bald face lie and say the pot raise are are red when you know that they're blue bent it the funny part about this job and when you when you hear stuff like that and i've got that before so you're telling me then whoever you are mike and you work at quackock you you are you're an engineer you walk into your ceo's office and you're like you're a bum ruining this country you suck you're a loser i just tell it like it is bro i'm no boot liquor no i'm like everybody has a boss everybody on the planet they act like media guys don't like we don't have a boss or sometimes and it's like bro i can't you know i can't go nuclear all the time i went nuclear on that guy because that guy was calling me a liar but we've always said on this show you're going to get how you're genuinely feeling genuinely some days the pot raise losses devastate me some days like today when i'm going on vacation i'm like it's not my problem i'll watch tomorrow i'm into it it's never your problem it's not my problem but holy smoke we can't fix them yeah i can't fix them well we're up against the clock so i i had a hi hey hey i don't we don't need to get to it you just want to skip what the best part of the day all right tease it and we'll come back yeah all right just be careful yeah well we're going to be very careful just think about it over the break how you want to handle this if you're really going in that direction you guys want to google the couple in georgia and a margarita that does not want to do this you can think about this think twice either way we're going to give away some john fogarty tickets when we come back as well and don't forget the roundtable is coming up at the top of the hour all ahead and woods' vacation is about 43 minutes away right here on san diego's number one sports station back after traffic here at 97.3 of the fam i'd be very careful yeah little ears maybe turn the time they come for little ears yeah does that include me mature this is like kind of a little ear here i want you to hear every second a tour with the tour uh there was a viral clip going around on the social medias yesterday now this actually happened a couple of months ago but police just found out about it after the video went viral and i believe the woman involved it may have ratted on herself like turned herself in but um there was a couple in georgia waycross georgia they're a couple yes they know each other joe and mary joe boyette and mary sweat that turned boyette and sweat in the mornings here in georgia it's boyette and sweat thanks for tuning in brave that head in the san diego to take it on the pot raise they are facing charges for an act that they committed at uh rodeo mexican restaurants okay and waycross rodeo mexican restaurant i bet it's so good too text mex we're thinking here it's georgia so no even worse southern mex just rodeo okay go ahead adam's lurking outside the studio like is he just gonna run in and pull the plug any point i mean he's not listening do you need us do you need us okay are we good okay i guess he's not listening so the video which you can pretty much see pretty all of it pretty clearly what's happening uh she'll put it in the chat or no no no she was mary don't understand this kind of hiking up her dress yep the dress goes up and then everything is exposed and she's in a booth on the on her knees right with a rear end out right and uh what's the joe joe boyette took a picture of margarita then uh just to clear it up i don't think this is a frozen frozen frozen it was uh it was uh mixed a mixed margarita on the rocks on the rocks yeah and he's got the picture and on a funnel and uh funnel he used try to use the funnel to drink the margarita after he had poured it look down that's it okay that's it even i know where you're heading here yeah Brandon in the chest stop stop beating around the bush i said hey man we're on radio still this is just on youtube so i've heard the the expression that's used when you when you drink an alcoholic drink but not through the normal orifice right as it were the blank chug right and i i this is not that this is more like a luge and i've never totally understood the concept necessarily yeah well what is the funnel for well the funnel didn't work so he threw the funnel away okay and it just went to the luge or the like the the lute the the back of the so they were arrested for what indecent exposure all kinds of stuff really real big mess get arrested for excessive sticky mess in a booth a luge i need you to isolate yourself saying luge wasting a perfectly good picture of margaritas i mean drunk do you have to be like get that scared up i'm gonna do that now luge we talked about margarita luge we talked about now at the bottom now that is one thing that we will not be doing on summer break next night let me get that scared up and now is it is it a urban legend or is it medical fact that the alcohol absorbs faster into your system i don't know through alternate means of ingestion so i heard uh the old rumor about steve nix is that she did someone blow that she couldn't do it through her nose anymore so she went another direction and it worked apparently that that is a desire like they'd like to actually like a friendly couple we have the mug shot up yeah they do they do or chat they look fairly normal i not whatever she's gridded he looks like he's done this before you see there's a glimpse of pride in his eye and my first rodeo mexican restaurant you damn right look at his face damn right i did not do it again we're doing it tomorrow look at him there is some pride there there's a there's a pride in the eye tmz says yeah it happened three months ago but we just found out about it after mary ran it on herself she was upset after someone leaked the video online and wanted cops to arrest the person and then instead her and joe were arrested for public indecency uh the restaurant put out a statement saying this was unacceptable and not reflective of the family friendly dining experience that they strive for at rodeo mexican restaurant i take my family out for a nice dinner we open the door she's on home where she's like what the hell oh yeah all right now let's go turn around dance and come back later holy crap the face i cannot get over his face hell yeah hell yeah i mean here that some of the employees of the restaurant may also face action or charges for inappropriate action because according to reports one of the restaurant employees is the one that gave the joe the funnel how you got a funnel back hey i'm sorry again i apologize for being the unaware one which way are you doing the the funnel what is it for upside down i still don't know what the funnel is for i'm going to be honest with you a funnel has it a small size and a big shot i don't know which hairband you can see i don't know how it's going to help i'm not going to be adding a funnel to it pouring something into the funnel yeah i can see if you're trying to pull but then it's like uh then it like uh you know what i mean i don't want you to have to break you know if we get a better understanding of it thank you paulin really great right now unfortunately for this restaurant anytime you google now rodeo mexican restaurant like all i wanted to know was what was on the menu like the panchitos or corn tortilla chips smothered with queso black beans sour cream guacamole pico de gallo and pickle jalapenos well those are nachos where it's all panchitos it's just nachos of course you go look at the menu the minichangas oh god i love a chimichango let's go break all right uh we will come back we got our final segment of benowitz first we got the uh john fogordy tickets to give away he is not affiliated at all with the rhymele report i'd like to win two tickets to the rainy shell september fourth to see john fogordy and concert be our fifth caller at 833 288 097 3 833 288 097 3 tickets are on sale now at ticketmaster.com but you can win them right now at 833 288 097 3 back to wrap things up before the round table next year on 97.3 the fam couple updates on stories we've talked about in the past yesterday mentioned uh torrey pines highlum taylor fritts was in the quarterfinals at wimbledon so close looking to get to the semis and it was a really good match against larenza moussetti taylor fritts won the first set lost the second one in a tiebreaker we were on the air that was top seven seven six seven five in the tiebreaker that was probably the match right there because moussetti won the third set fritts came back though to win the fourth set but then in the end moussetti took the the last set six one and advanced to the semi-finals that that second set was probably the decider there that tiebreaker just a point or two making the difference is uh yeah taylor fritts is eliminated in the wimbledon quarterfinals how many games do you play total in a you know in a tennis match uh because they went so probably around probably around 50 oh my god now remember that that one match a few years ago isner and muhut and it was like what was it like 65 63 and the fifth set oh my god they went like 100 oh my god 28 games in the one sec because there was no tiebreakers back then and you had to go longest ten inch was in history it was a first round men single this was 2010 yeah isner behut and and find out exactly how 11 hours and five minutes yeah but how many games how many games did it go in the fifth set it was 11 and now and 11 70 to 68 60 to 68 in the fifth set normally you have to get to six to win they've already played they've already played four sets that would be like a baseball game going to the i don't know 137th inning so before you decided it it says the match began at 613 British time and at 907 p.m. due to the feeding daylight play was suspended before the start of the fifth set after resuming on wednesday the 23rd at 205 p.m. the record for the longest match is broken at 545 play continued until the final set was tied 59 games all at which point the daylight faded again three days so play was suspended once more just after 9 p.m. they resumed at 3 40 p.m. on thursday and eventually he won as no one the match at 4 47 the final set time eight hours and 11 minutes you know that tennis when it started just the final set was eight hours and yeah i read that when tennis like when they started it was invented it was just like a leisurely game a gentlemanly game and they used you're supposed to actually hit it back to the other person to get it yeah so it's such an even pro tennis was that way and it was just i'm looking at you right in the eye and i'm like here you go if you hit it right back here you go it's a faux pas if you actually like hit a winner like too far away from the person you try to like lob one if you try to smash one that was a very gosh that was amazing that's amazing well baseball started that way as well pitchers pitchers were supposed to like throw batting practice in the beginning of baseball like your job was to throw it in there that's amazing and eventually obviously it evolved where the pitchers job became to try to get the guy out down home plate and not just your competitive spirit not just throw it in there for you to hit it just got a uh shot of uh Manny Machado's camp my son is at right now one of our tier ones Chris is one of the coaches and uh yeah they just probably hanging out big doing the big speech all the little kids out there Machado jersey looks pretty sweet uh out at helix so gonna run down there and check that out and see how uh how everything's going today the other story update is from a while ago and this one is a sad one but um the passing of shawn burrows they just released oh man corners report and um we know that shawn burrows died at the parking lot at the little league fields on may ninth at the age of 43 the coroner said uh after performing the uh the test that that he died of a fentanyl intoxication overdose unfortunately which is uh i don't know it's gonna make it any sadder it's it's sad enough that he's gone to begin with but obviously uh you know i say that just is you know the cautionary tale for anybody out there you don't know whether he was taking it intentionally or not but you know there's so many chances now where it gets in your system and it can just do such devastating devastating damage uh including death and and that's what uh caused the the death of shawn burrows oh super super sad we have a shout out to his family too did you see that one this morning it's actually a shout out to her family do you guys see who passed away actress actress poly hang on i gotta get the shout out to her family that's a whole different drop them yes this is bbc news we're interrupting our schedules for the following announcement bucking and palace has announced the death of her majesty shelly devol has passed on then and uh had a really really really difficult life uh especially near the end she passed away she is 75 years old for those in the um the younger set famous roles that you might be aware of for shelly devol olive oil in the movie pop eye with uh robin williams robin williams yeah a classic uh when we were kids benny and then of course the shining i mean windy windy taurus uh and and i when i think of that role you there's not a better actress in the world that you could have put in that role no one nobody could have been better than that uh so she passed away been 75 years old had been in really really poor health uh the last few years and uh just an incredible incredible actress man dynamite drop it i'm do you have anything else yet yeah i still really have anything else to add so why don't we take our last check of traffic here huh let's do that 97-3 the fan sorry i didn't have anything to jump in with any more thoughts on on shelly devol it's okay you get nervous for the uh round table yeah yeah a little bit oh your rivals back yes stoting wind jr is uh scheduled to be here hope you're taking your place today actually in the round table no no he works here too right it's not filling in for you it's not filling in for me no i'm i'm missing one he's not special guest no no it's not taking my place he also works here been traveling he's on keycard but you you have been wanting to create a rivalry with him for some dumb reason lately you've really been he just gives me a lot of side eyes when i make comments during the round table he gives me a lot of side eyes he gives everybody a lot he does he's smart he's the only big leaguer in there he's got to listen to me he's got a different perspective that's why i like having him in the round table so much he's got to listen to me you kreg elston and chris elo be like here's what they should do like wouldn't you be what if you had to sit in there with four people that didn't know anything but never did professional radio they're like here's what you should be me i'm constantly thinking about how tony is judging us the entire time me too absolutely i just i like to just ask him questions i don't ask i was like hey in that situation would you blah blah blah but i also feel like he can sometimes be that perspective that he has as a former player so good but he can also be compromised a little bit he will always he always will side with the players yes it's a good point good point and while we probably as fans go too far in the other direction of being critical and like wondering what what are you doing there tony sometimes i think is so empathetic to how difficult it is and i do understand it's such a difficult game but he's going to side with the players sure more often than not because he was one yeah right and grew up grew up grew up i mean who who else knows the game better than that guy with what the way he grew up and then of course what he did uh what he did i want tony to know i want him to understand that i do understand that part of it right not oblivious i've talked to enough big leaguers i know how difficult the game is i want mike shilt to understand that as well yeah that we're not yes we are two babbling heads on the radio in the morning and we talk a lot of silly things and we feel a lot of time like the butt yes but i'd also like to think that we are savvy enough as baseball observers and fans to recognize the difficulty and you know just the toughness of being a major league manager or a major league player i take all of my opinions and i put them through that lens first before i say anything and just you know spew it out i understand that it's 162 game season one game does not make the entire year players will go through slumps and they will go through um you know surges throughout the course of that season i understand all that and i i add it to my equation when i'm thinking i'm not completely oblivious to that and i'd like mike shilt i want to make sure tony gwen jr understands that i am not ignoring that completely there also are legitimate time where you can add your opinion and sometimes criticism of your team isn't that fair bro i listened to ron darling last night there was a clip going around louis severino was pitching for the meds and you know darling pitched he's also a broadcaster pitched very well right and severino didn't back up home plate and he's like that's it's inexcusable it's absolutely inexcusable it cannot happen and tony is critical at times too and when he is believe you i take notice when when tony is critical because i know that he he has seen something that is worth observing that's imagining when he brings it up you know he won't say he won't just off the cuff be mad at something and you know let it spit out but when he notices something he will tell you and he will be critical for sure yeah no question about it absolutely no question about it so yeah it does kind of stick out more when he does it right you're like oh you really you really messed up because it's it's now a glaring uh something that happened well i hope you guys get in a huge fight today all right more than any not a fish fight because that that wouldn't go well for me i mean i'm bigger than he is but he's a lot faster and stronger and stronger and younger and younger yeah more handsome and all of them i mean handsoms in the eyes that we hold her not really not it's not really objective not this case i don't think it's a i don't think it's a matter of preference in this way oh man no it's just objectively he's more justice it's an objective fact yes it's just it's more handsome than i am correct but yeah there's not one person that could disagree with that statement i don't think so really i don't think so huh Hannah and Carol if he compared you to Tony Gwen jr she probably take Tony Gwen jr probably not definitely you're saying that everyone would definitely take Tony Gwen jr over me well if you say he's just more handsome no she would say she'd say he's more handsome than you like if you had a hundred people out there and you line me next to Tony you're saying all 100 would say Tony is better looking correct there wouldn't be one out there not one he's he's more because if there was one that it would be subjective right that would be that would be everyone can have their own opinion you're saying this is a fact it's fact this is yeah this is a hundred to none this is a fact yeah he's a handsome dude i also don't want to kick my ass at least yes Ben all right sorry about it sorry yeah there's look there's things that you just wear and then you know there's things that are that could be debated that's not one of them i mean some people just prefer a bigger guy maybe a portly or like a bigger dude yeah maybe but i think handsome is different handsome is not fit your face his face objectively just his features is that what's wrong with my features he's just more he's got better do i need to take the glasses off does that now am i no if you see that mole right there see then i'll get you now you can hide that now i don't see it still still there everyone i thought that it was a that you had like you something on your face because i've never seen it before i go oh no he's on tv he's got chocolate face this is like opening day you know have you ever studied Tony's face could he possibly have a oh all the time a mark or two there no very handsome very handsome fella hmm yep sorry i'm i'm really sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feelings i'm saying objectively this you just know he's more handsome i mean i wasn't expecting it to be like 50/50 split here oh it's definitely not gonna be but i do feel like sometimes you're a little bit delusional like with your i think i could beat steve sycamoto at dawn yes he can proudly but i i would be as good of a i'd be a good of a ride i don't think i'd need a path the time i'm saying maybe like one i don't know never like a hundred just like with the Tony fans just like one out of a hundred is all i'm looking for never i just need to try to get you to realize lightning strikes nope circumstances are just perfect all all the of the universe comes into a line a vision impaired lady might find you more handsome than Tony but you're blind girl just on vocal vocal quality maybe vocal quality maybe if she feels around to like what she feels but visually i'm sorry hmm this one's getting a role uh to him all right fair enough all right i'm sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feelings last question are you planning on stealing some round table pizza on your way out before you don't go in this debate in today's round table you know be a good move is to sit in there for like 10 minutes and just watch you guys do the round table just really rub it in eat some pizza no i'm not gonna be a jerk i want to get over to camp sitting there yep i'm gonna go uh get over to camp seat bow my buddy who's uh flying in today from Texas he's already delayed a little bit so kind of pick up bow bring him down there and uh you know get on uh get on we're on with the vacation this weekend but well have a you got a really good time you will be back on monday yeah please be back on monday Paulie and i will hold down the fort tomorrow we will talk to mike shilt at nine o'clock uh you know hopefully be happy i'm out hopefully they'll win tonight and somehow and you know we'll have a positive victory to talk about tomorrow i know they don't play i was just looking at you like really unlikely he's on he's insane that would be nice uh but more than likely they'll still be on a four-game loosing streak they will talk to mike shilt tomorrow for sure and uh we'll just have to just have to work our way through it i'm so sorry guys not sorry enough to come in but i am sorry it'll be okay we'll uh we'll manage our way through it tomorrow no doubt about it and then i would you'll be back on monday for the rest of you though please stay tuned join us for the uh 97-3 the fan pot raise round table coming up commercial-free next presented by sandy eagle round table pizza and andy and elston will be on at 11 o'clock after the uh the round table so that's it for us or executive producer at imaging director paul rindall for the soon probably now vacationing steven woods i'm ben higgins i'll talk to you in just a second here on the round table on 97-3 the fan will be right back couple updates uh on stories we've talked about in the past uh yesterday mentioned uh torrey pines hilam taylor fritts was in the quarterfinals at wimbledon so close looking to get to the semis and it was a really good match against larenza mussetti taylor fritts won the first set lost the second one in a tiebreaker we were on the air that was taught seven seven six seven five in the tiebreaker that was probably the match right there because mussetti won the third set fritts came back though to win the fourth set but then in the end mussetti took the the last set six one and advanced to the semi-finals that that second set was probably the decider there that tiebreaker just a point or two making the difference is uh yeah taylor fritts is eliminated in the wimbledon quarterfinals how many games do you play total in a in a dentist man uh because they went so probably around in probably around 50 oh my god now remember that that one match a few years ago isner and muhut and it was like what was it like 65 63 and the fifth set oh my god like a hundred oh my god 28 games in the one set because there was no tiebreakers back then and you had to go longest ten inch past in history it was uh first round man single this was 2010 yeah isner bahut and find out exactly how 11 hours and five minutes yeah but how many games did it go in the fifth set it was 11 and 11 i made a 70 to 68 60 to 68 in the fifth set normally you have to get to six to win they've already played they've already played four sets that would be like a baseball game going to the i don't know 137th inning before you decided it it says the match began at 613 British time and at 907 p.m. due to the feeding daylight play was suspended before the start of the fifth set after resuming on wednesday the 23rd at 205 p.m. the record for the longest match was broken at 545 play continued until the final set was tied 59 games all at which point the daylight faded again three days so play was suspended once more uh just after 9 p.m. they resumed at 3 40 p.m. on thursday and eventually he won uh isner won the match at 4 47 the final set time eight hours and 11 minutes you know that tennis when it started just the final set was eight hours and yeah i read that when tennis like when they started it was invented uh it was just like a leisurely game a gentlemanly game and they used you're supposed to actually hit it back to the other person to get it to the other person yeah so essentially and and even pro tennis was that way and it was just i'm looking at you right in the eye and i'm like here you go if you hit it right here you go it's a faux pas if you actually like hit a winner like too far away from the person you try to like lob one if you try to smash one that was a very gosh that was amazing that's amazing well uh baseball started that way as well pitchers pitchers were supposed to like throw batting practice in the beginning of baseball like your job was to throw it in there that's amazing and eventually obviously it evolved where the pitchers job he came to try to get the guy out at home plate and not just your competitive spirit not just throw it in there for you to hit it just got a uh shot of uh baby michado's camp my son is at right now one of our tier one's chris is one of the coaches and uh yeah they're just probably hanging out big doing the big speech all the little kids out there michado jersey looks pretty sweet uh out at helix so gonna run down there and check that out and see how uh how everything's going today the other story update is from uh a while ago and this one is a sad one but um the passing of chan burrows they just released oh man corners report and um we know that chan burrows died at the parking lot of the little league fields on may ninth at the age of 43 the coroner said uh after performing the uh the test that that he died of a fentanyl intoxication overdose unfortunately which is uh i don't know it's gonna make it any sadder it's it's sad enough that he's gone to begin with but obviously uh you know i say that just is you know the cautionary tale for anybody out there you don't know whether he was taking it intentionally or not but you know there's so many chances now where it gets in your system and it can just do such devastating devastating damage uh including death and and that's what caused them the death of chan burrows oh super super sad we have a shout out to his family too did you see that one this morning it's actually a shout out to her family do you guys see who passed away actress actress poly hang on i gotta get the shout out to her family that's a whole different drop them yes this is bbc news we're interrupting our schedules for the following announcement bucking in palace has announced the death of her majesty Shelly Duval has passed on then and uh had a really really really difficult life uh especially uh near the end she passed away she is 75 years old for those in the um the younger set famous roles that you might be aware of for Shelly Duval olive oil in the movie pop eye with uh robin william robin william yeah a classic uh when we were kids benny and then of course the shining i mean uh jandy wendy torris uh and and i when i think of that role you there's not a better actress in the world that you could have put in that role no one nobody could have been better than that uh so she passed away been 75 years old had been in really really poor health uh the last few years and uh just an incredible incredible actress man dynamite drop it i'm i do you have anything else yet i'm i shelly do you really have anything else to add so why don't we take our last check of traffic here hunds do that nice three the fan sorry i didn't have anything to jump in man with any more thoughts on on Shelly Duval okay you get nervous for the uh roundtable yeah yeah a little bit oh your rivals back yes stoting wind jr is uh scheduled to be here hope you're taking your place today actually in the roundtable no no he works here too right it's not filling in for you it's not filling in for me no i'm i'm missing one he's not special guest no no it's not taking my place he also works here been traveling he's his own keycard but you you have been wanting to create a rivalry with him for some dumb reason lately you've really been he just gives me a lot of side-eyes when i make comments during the roundtable he gives me a lot of side-outs he gives everybody a lot of side-outs he's smart he's the only big leaguer in there he's got to listen to me he's got a different perspective that's why i like having him in the roundtable so much he's got to listen to me you Craig Elston and Chris Ello be like here's what they should do like wouldn't you be what if you had to sit in there with four people that didn't know anything but never did professional radio and they're like here's what you should be me i'm constantly thinking about how tony is judging us the entire time me too absolutely i just i like to just ask him questions i don't ask i was like hey in that situation would you blah blah blah but i also feel like he can sometimes be that perspective that he has as a former player so good but he can also be compromised a little bit on girl he will always he always will side with the players you will always side with the players yes it's a good point good point and while we probably as fans go too far in the other direction of being critical and like wondering what what are you doing there tony sometimes i think is so empathetic to how difficult it is and i do understand it's such a difficult game but he's gonna side with the players sure more often than not because he was one yeah right and grew up grew up i mean who who else knows the game better than that guy with what he grew up and then of course what he did uh what he did i want tony to know i want him to understand that i do understand that part of it right not oblivious i've talked to enough big leaguers i know how difficult the game is i want mike shilt to understand that as well yeah that we're not yes we are too babbling heads on the radio in the morning and we talk a lot of silly things and we feel a lot of time like but yes but i'd also like to think that we are savvy enough as baseball observers and fans to recognize the difficulty and you know just the toughness of being a major league manager or a major league player i take all of my opinions and i put them through that lens first before i say anything and just you know spew it out i understand that it's a 162 game season one game does not make the entire year players will go through slumps and they will go through um you know surges throughout the course of that season i understand all that and i i add it to my equation when i'm thinking i'm not completely oblivious to that and i'd like mike shilt i want to make sure tony gwen jr understands that i'm not ignoring that completely there also are legitimate times where you can add your opinion and sometimes criticism of your team isn't that fair bro i listened to ron darling last night there was a clip going around louis severino was pitching for the meds and you know darling pitched he's also a broadcaster pitched very well right and severino didn't back up home plate and he's like that's it's inexcusable saw that absolutely inexcusable it cannot happen and tony did it again he did it so he's critical at times too and when he is believe i take notice when when tony is critical because i know that he he has seen something that is worth observing that's and mentioning when he brings it up you know he won't say he won't just off the cuff be mad at something and you know let it spit out but when he notices something he will tell you and he will be critical for sure yeah no question about it absolutely no question about it so yeah it does kind of stick out more when he does it right you're like ooh you really you really messed up because it's it's now a glaring uh something that happened well i hope you guys get in a huge fight today all right more than any not a fist fight because that that wouldn't go well for me i mean i'm bigger than he is but he's a lot faster and stronger and stronger and younger and younger and more handsome and all of them i mean hansoms in the eyes to be holder not really it's not really objective not in this case i don't think it's uh i don't think it's a matter of preference in this way no it's just objectively he's more justice it's an objective fact yes it's just it's more handsome than i am correct but yeah there's not one person that could disagree with that state i don't like so really i don't like so huh hannon and carol if he compared you to tony guin jr she probably take tony guin jr probably not definitely you're saying that everyone would definitely take tony guin jr over me what if you say he's just more handsome no she would say she'd say he's more handsome than you like if you had a hundred people out there and you line me next to tony you're saying all 100 would say tony is better looking correct there wouldn't be one out there not one no he's a he's more because if there was one then it would be subjective right that that would be in it that would be everyone can have their own opinion you're saying this is a fact it's fact this is yeah this is a hundred to none this is a fact yeah he's a handsome dude i also don't want to kick my ass at least yes pen mart sorry about it sorry yeah there's look there's things that you just wear and then you know there's things that are that could be debated that's not one of them i mean that some people just prefer a bigger guy maybe a portly or like a bigger dude yeah maybe but i think handsome is different handsome is not fit your face his face objectively just his features is that what's wrong with my feature he's just more he's got better so i need to take the glasses off does that now am i no cuz then you see that mole right there see that that gets you now you can hide that now it's still there remember what i thought that it was a that you had like something on your face yes because i've never seen him before i go oh no he's on tv he's got chocolate with face this is like opening day you know have you ever studied tony's face could he possibly have a all the time a mark or two they are very handsome very handsome fella hmm yep sorry i'm i'm really sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feelings i'm saying objectively this you just know he's more handsome i mean i wasn't expecting it to be like 50 50 split here oh it's definitely not going to be but i do i do feel like sometimes you're a little bit delusional like with your i think i could beat steve segomoto at dawn yes he can proudly but i i would be as good as i'd be i could have arrived i don't think i'd be half the time i'm saying maybe like one and i don't know never like a hundred just like with the tony fans just like one out of a hundred is all i'm looking for never i just need to try to get you to realize lightning strikes no circumstances are just perfect all all the of the universe comes into a line a vision impaired lady who might find you more handsome than tony but you're blind girl just on vocal vocal quality maybe vocal quality maybe uh if she feels around so like what she feels but visually i'm sorry hmm this one's gonna roll uh to him all right fair enough all right i'm sorry i'm not trying to hurt your feelings last question are you planning on stealing some round table pizza on your way out before you don't go into this debate in today's round table you know be a good move is to sit in there for like ten minutes and just watch you guys do the round table just really rub it in eat some pizza no i'm not gonna be a jerk i want to get over the camp sitting there yep i'm gonna go uh get over camp seat bow my buddy who's uh flying in today from texas he's already delayed a little bit so gotta pick up bow bring him down there and uh you know get on uh get on we're on with the vacation this weekend but well have a yeah have a really good time you will be back on monday yeah please be back on monday falling i will hold down the fort tomorrow we will talk to mike shilt at nine o'clock cause uh you know hopefully be happy i'm out hopefully they'll win tonight and somehow and you know we'll have a positive victory to talk about tomorrow i know they don't play i was just looking at like really unlikely no he's he's insane that would be nice uh but more than likely they'll still be on a four-game loosing streak we talked to mike shilt tomorrow for sure and uh we'll just have to just have to work our way through it i'm so sorry guys not sorry enough to come in but i am sorry it'll be okay we'll uh we'll manage our way through it tomorrow no doubt about it and then i would as you'll be back on monday for the rest of you though please stay tuned join us for the 97 3 the fan pot raise round table coming up commercial free next presented by sandy eagle round table pizza and then any else then we'll be on at 11 o'clock after the uh the round table so that's it for us or executive producer at imaging director paul rindall for the soon probably now vacationing steven woods i'm bed higgins i'll talk to you in just a second here on the round table a 97 3 the fam will be right back hey fantasy football fans this is zack 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