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Friendship Goals Vs Reality : What Nobody Tells you Ft Perceey ASF
[Music] Yo, welcome back to a brand new episode of C2 with level and Tato Rampady. We're so excited for all these conversations today, guys. Level's got a jam-packed episode, and of course, we got a really amazing guest who I will intro very, very soon. But before we get into that, I want you guys to know what C2 is about. We are a fun podcast that loves having uncomfortable conversations that the youth always rise away from. And with levels inside, mindsets and a whole bunch of comedy from this guy, we make it so much easier for you guys to digest. C2, we've got Percy as well. Say hello, Prince. Let them recognize your voice. - No, no, no, no, no, no, come on, come on, come on, boys. - Well, good, bro. - Good, right. So you guys don't know who Percy is. Percy is a very close friend of ours, guys. He's also a part of Asmajita, a group channel we have with us three as well as Justerigi. He is a skit maker. He's a good looking boy, fine boy, no pimple. He is an amazing MC. He is an amazing director. He's an amazing editor. I ain't even kidding, I'm taking it away. - Watching it away, I'm taking it away. - Give me my powers. - In it? - In it? - Have you not seen the one that you made for TikTok? - Oh, yeah. - It's an amazing editor. - Trust me, brother. - Yeah, it's great. - And it's an amazing, just creative genius producer. - And pleasure, man. - Which is really, really dope. And we'll have every type of him here because it's crazy. - So, to me, Percy, I made, I became first person last year. And here's a conversation which level can tell us about this. We'll literally help you guys understand how we made Percy, how you kind of formed ASM, and just how we've been doing everything. - So, of course, obviously, we'll be asking Percy a couple of questions there and there. But the themes of today's podcast is, how do we make new friends? And making new friends that actually mean something to us that grows us, et cetera. Then we'll speak about, can friends be toxic? Can you trust your friends with everything? And then we'll speak about a bit of friendship, love languages. Dating ideals in groups versus your own individual ideals. And, of course, a bit of extra content for our members only. But we'll get into that. You have to pay. You have to pay. - Close friends. - Hey, I'm here like this. - Keep things tight, YouTube. - Yeah, I'm there, YouTube. - So, if you guys know what that is, guys, you basically have two barriers to get to the memberships. The first one is literally close friends where you're basically supporting tortillas, seated, and just overall channel. And then we've got inside that. That's why it's a little bit more expensive. And you guys get premium content that's basically an extension of this podcast. And we get to just have a personal relationship and it's a whole lot better. But, of course, the first question. I want to tell you guys about the University of Johannesburg, UGA. They have been soaring high doing some of the most amazing things and actually getting really amazing achievements. The first one is they are currently ranked as number one university. And this is the best of universities that are younger than 50 years old. Not just in South Africa, but in Africa. And they're definitely showing that the world that they are doing number one things. And, of course, the leader of this four friends in research is Professor Pussy and Somes. Yeah, guys, he's actually recognized one of the top researchers when it comes to cybersecurity. So, knowing that you've got someone like that at the University of Johannesburg, that's going to basically teach you how to do everything just insane. And on top of that, guys, we know all rows lead to the French Olympics, guys. It's going to be massive. We've got two amazing representatives from the University of Johannesburg. I want to tell you guys about South Africa's 400-metre champion. We've got Lyth Pillay going to represent as well as Caitlin Roscans. And they're going to be going to the upcoming Paris 2024 Olympics, which is very, very exciting. Again, UJ shines its lives in different ways. And one of the ways they actually do that is a collaboration with Source Global in 2023, where they provided ground breaking. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Ground breaking to one more time. Ground breaking. Ground breaking. No, but they provided a ground breaking initiative to provide people in the Eastern Cape with water, clean water. Over 2,500 people today have been registered to be drinking clean water. Yeah, clean, fresh, huge, huge, huge achievements on their side. Yeah. And on top of that, guys, hey, UJ, hey, UJ number one, they're doing great things, man. On top of that, guys, they have introduced face up, face up, facial recognition, baby, when it comes to making the registration process so much better, so much safer, so much more efficient. They've got facial recognition, which is really, really exciting. Yeah. UJ number one, why don't you do? Thank you. But yo, guys, please, please, please take the time to check out their website to see what other things they offer. And as well as just seeing the overall vibe of UJ as a whole. And as you can see, they do great things. Yeah. Yeah. The link is in the description. Let's get back into the episode. Is... How are you? How are you guys? Come on, guys, watch my voice, come on, dude. Hey, you shocked me, how are you? So of course, busy, how are you, papa? No, I'm great. I'm very tired, though. It's been a very tough two weeks. Well, our work, ASM, everything, it's just been a large, you know. And currently, I can't even have a love life, because we're nying in J. We're nying it, guys, but we've been trying to push and yeah, man, you don't know what the next day brings you, so we're still trying. Yeah, that's beautiful. That, how are you? I'm good, bro. You're like, literally a person, I live the same life, right? So if you're not working, I'm just working on the things that I'm doing. Ah, that's good, man. Yeah, I like this good, man. Like, yeah, I'm pushing. [LAUGHTER] How can I complain? How can you? Like, the person I would dress, so we went to go fetch my car where I lived here today. Personally, I drive him back, and basically, like, speaking about, like, my accomplishments, his accomplishments, and just how we've been living life in our 20s. And we were just there, like, bro, we have no rights to be said. Go on. We cannot seek, we have no need of rights. Like, how? Like, life is good. Listen to these two. Don't you feel the same way, too, bro? Because think about it, man. Not a highly favorite, highly blessed, bro. Yeah, of course. Highly favorite, highly blessed. Also, guys, I feel like we put in the work for it. Yeah. So obviously, like, the results are going to be great, you know what I mean? And sometimes you are, like, surprised, good, oh, wow, actually, like, things turn out to be this way, but it's really the hard way we put, you know, 100%. And like, I was listening to Eman's YouTube videos, and he was saying he works, like, eight months in the year, and then he rests for the last four. So I'm trying to practice it. It's like, oh, yeah. Obviously, he's doing, like, small things, making sure everything is running. But my goal in my 30s is to literally work eight months. Yeah. Maybe I'll work from, like, March to plus eight months, and then I take four months off. Okay, actually, straight. Yeah. So this Jan Fave March, you were kind of, like, crazy relaxing. You even stretch it like, yo, dude, I haven't made a... One, two, three, maybe... No, no, no, no, no. Eggy, early this year, you were watching it. You were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about Fave? Fave, I started picking up March. I went, boom, how? Because there were no Valentine deals or tendas out there. Oh, he's talking about campaigns. So I still created a lot of original content. Yeah. But when it comes to brand deals, yeah, there was nothing. Yes, like, you know what he's saying? Yeah. I was dry, bro. I thought there was so stressed. Like, you were talking about going month, and I haven't even tried to one invoice. You know? But, like, you back now. Yeah. Back then, I'm better. Life goes like this. Even now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She in. She in once. I mean, as you guys can see, every week, it's a new week. New week. Oh, once. Nah, but true, bro. How am I? Yo, um, rollercoaster of emotions, bro. I'm grateful to be with my brothers right now, and then doing the podcast. Life is a bit hate to go right now, but, again, a highly favorite, highly blessed. I think that at this current time, like how I see myself, is probably like going to be the most memorable part of my life, if you feel me. Like, where I want to take myself, what I want to do with myself and stuff. So this is a very defining moment in my life right now. But, yeah, I'm just really, really happy. And so real, though, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's beautiful, bro. That's beautiful. Um, yeah, let's go show into the first conversation. But, yeah, obviously, the audience, we need to know a bit more about person. Yes, sir. We've got a couple of questions for you. We want to ask, obviously, the first time picked up a camera, put on a towel. [LAUGHTER] I don't know, we put the lights on in the back. Oh, dang! That's my skin. Yo, I wish you could show you guys. So if you guys are listening to us on YouTube, obviously, you can see us. So if you just put a video up. Yo, yo, sister, hasn't you figured it out? OK, I'm going to go out. Yo, bitty, bitty, I do the one. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] If you want Spotify, too, you can actually watch a video, too. 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[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] But back to you, Percy, when you first started making content, take it through that day, what was going through your mind, the hype that was going in your head, how do you want to hear about that? OK, so let me give you a young backstory that will kind of make sense of what I'm going to say now. OK, first thing first. Percy, young boy from Naspoti, Swati boy, you know what's up. I've always been like a class clown, but that good looking class clown. It's like, oh no, it's different to the entire one. I know how to be, and it's just like, no, man, that's my personality, dog. I'd like to believe that I'm a fan broor. Everything that I do, man, I do it with light, light, hot, and take it easy. And also, just don't forget to throw a few choices to be happy, bring a lot of smile here and there, you know? And I remember one time, my mom bought me a camera, right? I don't know why. I think you were just being spontaneous. So it's all to you? I was maybe you. When was the first time that we came to South Africa? Percy, how old were you? I'm trying to-- Maybe like you were 11. You're like, great with you. I was in grade four. Yeah, it's pretty young. Yeah, I was in grade four. And I was just messing with the settings. I used to take pictures of everything. I don't know why, but I was doing it. And it's time-vide, man. I just felt in love with shooting. Just shooting myself, you know? Like, I've just been that guy. And then I wanted to put narratives on the video. People must see, love, and share, whatever. And then in 2018, I think, or '17, it was when Migos came to South Africa. I love how you only remember dates via, like, who was South Africa? Yeah, no, something was happening, you know what I mean? That's how you remember. So I shot a video about Migos coming. It was like a skit. And people liked it, you know? And-- So it was your first edition? I was like your first one. That was like my first skit, yeah, okay. The first time I actually edited something and I put it out there. And then I also fell in love with-- if you know Pawata Erecta from back in the day, it was like an app. Editing something, yeah. Yeah, it was an app on your phone. And you used to like edit everything. I fell in love with editing as well. I'm like, you know what, let me actually do this thing and try it out and see what happens, you know? After that, like, start a dropping skits. People love them, you know? So, like, anything that happens in my head, it makes sense and it's funny. And I'm like, you know what, let me put this in a video and see how people react to it, you know? And that's how everything started. I love how passion can sometimes be derived from, like, our earlier youth. Yeah. So you had-- you're having so much fun making content, you know? So much fun. And then grows and then goes into, like, the editing. Then it goes into, like, the next thing, the next thing. And right now, obviously, you're one quarter of, like, Asmajita, right? Speak to us about, like, how your journey's been with Asmajita and, like, how you feel every time you go. Yo, what happened? How did it fall? I didn't even tell me your mind. So this is life! [LAUGHS] Stop it, Percy! Stop it! See, this is life! Don't stop, don't stop, don't stop. That's a good job. But Asmajita, amen, that's my safe space. I won't lie. Yo, guys, that brings me so much joy, you know? Because, I've honestly said that in my life, I want to, like, create something or, like, just work with people that understand me and just, like, make some magic, you know? And with these bros, when I met these guys, we're all just, like, in sync, you know? And we had all, like, these crazy ideas. And we just, like, throw them onto the table. And I'm happy as much that happened, because it's always been, like, a concept for the longest of times, you know? And we were, like, you know what? Let's just do it now, it's never, you know? So, yeah, amen, asmajita, [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] No one is crying. By the way, our eyes are dry. So you guys, we are blinking, but holding it in, holding it in. But obviously, you can speak on the other side of the journey of Asmajita and say how we've experienced person, he's energy and stuff. And, like, how that's also formulated into, like, your friendship as a whole. [SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE] [LAUGHTER] So, obviously, so, if you guys don't know, but I'm sure it's pretty obvious because of, like, age, Percy and Honset were originally, like, just levels friends. Yeah. And I'd always, like, go visit-- I lived at level, they'd always come visit us, and I'd show it to them sometimes. Because our age gap is-- I think I'm five, it's older than Christopher. Damn! Four, four, oh. [LAUGHTER] Oh, yeah, OK. Damn! And if we're older than Honset, two, which-- Two, older than me. Six, seven would see. Yeah, six, seven, yeah. So my friends are quite young. And what happened was that they always had these kids. Eventually, we became friends. Then they have, like, that an amazing idea, what a group called Asma Jita, but wanted to do reality shows. Yeah, reality shows. They demoed a bunch of other content creators. I was like, OK, cool, guys. I'm happy to do the production for this, if need be. Because now the source is really good content creators. But eventually, that never happened. New Year's started, and then we became, like, all close friends. Like super close. Yeah, and the way a person I became friends is that we were all channels that you're a dude. I'm moving to four ways. You stay, basically, like, very close to me. How do you feel about us jamming together? And I'm also scared to ask him. Because I'm like, yo, what's that, bro? Why? Don't look like a pit bull. Like, I'm going to buy it. You've watched me. No, it's like, what happens if you feel like, do I just get one, like, what is this like? I love-- I love how you guys are talking about this. Because, again, as one of the themes of the podcast is making new friends. And there's a lot of, like, scary parts of it. It's like dating, guys. Like, it's kind of asking. It's like a risky take. Like, can we do? Can we do? I mean, you wouldn't think you were going to apply. Wait, he's there, like-- Yes, yes, yes, yes. [LAUGHTER] At the time, Percy was buffed. Bro, so I'd kick while I could learn from this guy. He was like, you're a baller. You're a baller. You're a baller. I'm actually tiny, but I was like, I was huge. So I was like, kill that, can teach me a lot. And then I remember, like, we'd go to the gym. And also, the way he said it, bro, he was like, because it wasn't personal, you know? He was like, yeah, dog, yeah, chilled. So I'm like, hey, this guy, he's just saying yes, because we're on people. Then he went to eat. Then he said, yo, bro, if you're serious, just try it tomorrow. I think you said tomorrow. Then I was like, no, best, end on that. And then I remember, after the first session, we told our side, and I was like, OK, cool. Do I go to my car, or do I go to my car? I was like, one day closer, right? It's like, was it really like, man, for you, bro? Yeah, I think a lot, bro. I love this. I love this. So now we're speaking, then, OK, cool. If I'd be talking for too long, maybe he wants to go now. But then, like, we'd speak, and then a conversation comes. And the conversation comes, like, we were gymful. Maybe an hour and a half. Be outside for the first, like, two hours, like an hour and a half. Like, for every single day. I'd even be telling, like, yo, actually, I'm like, yo, babe. Like, I'm on my page. She's like, ah, yeah. Again. What are you guys doing? I'm just like, oh, something is coming down the corner. So if you guys, obviously, like, well, with all of us, actually, being so close and so, you know, intertwining each other's lives, I just want to define friendship for the audience. So they can understand, like, how you guys have bought your friendship. We've bought our friendship in the center. So friendship can be defined as a close and supportive relationship. That's two marks to pissy. Two marks to you. Between two individuals who share common interests, values, and experiences, friends provide emotional support, encouragement, companionship, and often share a deep affection and loyalty towards each other. And with the first theme of the podcast being "Making New Friends," with our friendship, you know, being so relatively new, right? What are some of the-- I love Toto. Toto already spoke about it. Some of the insecurities, like, shy. It's like, actually, not as close. Did you ever feel that way with us, or, like, certain things where you felt like, hey, I'm a bit of an outsider, I'm inside that? Or no? Yeah. I mean, obviously, these guys have always been, like, you guys have been-- Yeah, we've been-- I've known them for a while. Like, your whole life. Your whole life, you know? And you guys have known, like, one, two, four are good. I've been one, two, four longer than-- Toto's known them for longer than yet. I've only known them for, like, two years. So you know who's because of Toto, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, like me being the new guy in the group, it's always like, OK, these guys are on, like, the same wavelength as me. Like, human-wise, creativity-wise, like, business-minded, like, Siafana, you know? And it's like, OK, there's no gap that I'm trying to feel, because I feel like, already me, myself, I bring a presence, you know? But it's like, OK, how do I do it without, like, messing with the pattern that they already have together? You know, that's very considerate. That's very considerate. Because I'll just squeeze myself into my heart. And I have to be like that, yeah. I have to first, like, analyze, you know? 'Cause, come on, even there's jokes sometimes. It's like throwback jokes. It's an inside joke. It doesn't speak about butts one. I was not there! Like, let's speak about photography or something. But the good thing is, you know? But, like, as they started sharing all these stories, as they started sharing all these stories, like, now I know the stories as well. When they make a joke about a certain event, it's where I wasn't there. 'Cause you're there, no, I laugh. 'Cause now... It's in my head now, you know? I was thinking, "I'm moving." I'm going on, I'm going on. You know? But also with them, like, they kind of, like, welcomed me in a proper manner. They very considerate as well. Sometimes, really, you know, it's OK. Like, it's cold press, you know? 'Cause usually, when you guys call each other, you guys are used to it. Like, you're already here 'cause you're my brother. 'Cause that's your best friend. And it's a thing of, like, yeah, a cold press, you're asking what he's doing, you know? I said, "Brah!" And it was just like, "Okay, cool." The bruiser now accepting me in the circle. I mean, I'm already a brother. But, like, now it's feeling more peasant-like, you know? So opening up to me more, you know? One thing we don't give content of credit for is the friendships that he's given us. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, the bond that he's given us, he literally was a glue at some point. 'Cause there'd be times that he'd be like, "I'm inviting, like, Percy." I'd be like, "Ah, dude, come on." He says, "Let's go out and just do a gig." [laughter] No, man, no, man, no, man. I really am joking. I wanted to see you there. You passing, right there. But, for me, I definitely think in the beginning stages of making friends, guys, making friends of, guys, is so easy. The easiest thing. We could be friends of any guy. Yeah. And I promise you, not for me. Well, they could be friends of us, but I don't know if I could be friends of them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, those don't come with weird vibes, yeah. Yeah, but I liked what Percy's bringing up, and for you guys at home, you know, the conversation can definitely be today what type of friends do I want that will represent me? You get what I'm saying? Everything Percy's saying is like, these are the things that I identified as myself that I saw in these people as well, which made that attraction for friendship so much more stronger. You know what I'm saying? So, I definitely think when making new friends, finding those common values and common likes is very important. Because you'll go two months later and you're like, actually, this guy's boring. Give him one. Like, this guy's boring. Have you guys actually ever had a friendship where you were like, "Wow, I regret making this person my friend?" Yeah, yeah. Sort of. Really couple. Yeah, I have also. Okay, tell me about it. Yeah, so with me, it's like, with this one particular example, it's the thing of like, I was really like, you know, making a new friend. Yeah. And I was like, "Yo, dude, I want this person." Like, I want someone who's like, "My age," because you guys were very young. So it was my age. Someone who can inspire me. Someone who can like, kind of push my boundaries more because they have more life experience. Yeah. So they're like, "Oh, and you want to know all the brother?" And then I got this one guy who were doing things together. And it was cool. Like, we're doing a bunch of things together, right? We're going out together. We're chilling together. Chilling with like girls together. Chilling with you guys sometimes together. But I felt like I had someone just watching me and like just trying to see how I do everything and just going back home and copying everything I do. Yeah. So I felt like the person wasn't coming with an identity. It was stealing my identity. Yeah. Okay. He's like, "I know who it is." I know who this is. You get me. I get you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember labor was like, "Bro, you see what you're trying to bring out on this guy? This is not going to happen. This is not a person you can be fighting. I don't never listen to me, guys. So I get the thoughts with anything that talk to ever does. I always tell him, "What do you think?" Like, before he does, he's going to stop doing it. That's what he does. But he always say to me, "You're double. I want to do this. Should I do it now? Look in the eyes and I'll say it to him. It's the most stupid idea." And he'll say, "Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right." And then the next day, I see the stupid idea like, "What are you doing?" You know? But what about you? Because you've ever had like that thing of like friendship and saying, "I'm in the wrong place or like saying this to the wrong people." Okay. With me, it wasn't like that huge. But it's just like me noticing that this person and I don't share the same values in life. You know? Cool. Because when we meet as bros and they, we usually like meets Ebnandini. You know? It's all as a groove. Wherever you are, it's like a social place or whatever. And I love you for your energy at Groove Shop. Could be 90. Yes, you gave me that tequila. Thank you, my brother. But when it comes here, we're not the same. We're not alive. You know? And it's like a relationship, though. Like, I can't just be with you for the vibes. I need to be able to like open up to you. You know? Like let you know about my life problems, what I'm going through. And then you give me advice if you have to. You know? Or like you just let me know what's up. But like, yeah, it's just been like that minor thing. It's not really small because it's a bit like that. I think it sucks that you have to become friends of someone to know what type of person they are. Yeah. You can't just be like, oh, hi. How are you? Oh, my name is Andy Namba. His favorite color is because like great relationships, right? We first go on a day. It's second day. It's dead days. And like friends, we don't really have those formal things. Yeah. Can we speak about like how, obviously what us is different, like we're basically all brothers. Like we speak about how surface level, like male friendships are. Yeah. Like guys literally speak about like work, they go friends or get in girls. Yeah. That's it. Literally. One, that's it. One, that's it. One, you put too much. You put too many things. Yeah. That's too much in one day. Like it's so right. Those three topics for men in one day. Maybe in a week. Yeah. Like, you know, it's so rare to basically like, you know, see guys express themselves emotionally. I want to ask you guys, when you are forming friendships with us or even other people and you're going through something and you thought like you need to speak to someone. What made it okay for you to break that barrier of, I can't open up to this person right now? Just to see how he's my story, the first time I actually broke down to him like all like vented. Yeah. I think that's a good story. So for me, I'll tell the story about Percy and I, the first time I've vented to him. Because again, we come from a really relatively like large group. There's six of us. I think there's anyone. Yeah, there's six of us. So obviously to check in with five other men, weekly brother is insane. Crazy business. Personally, I'm not taking up on all five a week, maybe two of you a week. Yeah. I remember I was driving home from work one day. It's not the first time, but it's the one I remember the most recent. And I was like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I sort of talk to someone, let me go. And then I say, no, he won't get this feeling of mine. Let me go. Right? He wasn't in that space. You know, I go down the list and then Percy was on the list and I call person. I'm like, okay, no, but like I'm scared. I don't really open up to this guy. Yeah. Like obviously it's like jokey jokes, you know, like he said, like party sometimes, et cetera. But it's rare for us to be like, kill this how I found. Yeah. I call this guy events, everything. We speak for like an hour, et cetera, he events. And then I'll just stay like after we hang up, I'm like. And then joy. No, no, I was kidding. That joy I felt inside was a certain level of warmth. I was like, oh my God, this person cares about. Yeah. You get what I'm saying. And it's nice. So that's when I think that I felt comfortable. Like the first time I saw his first reaction to me being venting stuff, that puts the boundary down for me to be like, okay, I can do that often. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And not real. I was just saying, it's also so nice when your friendships with your boys, like, are not service level anymore. Because if you're single, it removes that need for you to actually one and spend time with women as well. So there's a lot of things guys do and people don't speak about this enough is that guys put themselves in situations with girls that they shouldn't be in, just because they feel lonely. Yeah. But I want you to know that you can actually achieve like that feeling of warmth, that feeling of like a good conversation. Yeah. If you're not happy enough, laughter, you can call it a layer where you can call a person. Yeah. Like, say a poison. What are you doing today? Instead of you calling and then tabby saying. She said what tabby saying is the tabby saying name. Instead of you calling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But instead of you using non tanta. But yeah, I mean. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I definitely think we've been more focused on like that, you know, the boys, the boys, friendships. Yeah. Obviously, I think we all three, yes, we do. We all three have friendships with females as well. Mm. Mm. And I want to ask. Yeah. Let's unpack them. The difference guys making friendships with women is a very difficult thing. It's, dude. It is. Okay. What makes it difficult though? Because at some point you like people are just going to say, yo, are you guys attracted to each other? You're attracted to each other. Oh. And then it's the idea of like being together. It's like that's even, that's even. Nice thing about it. I'm telling you that's even small. You don't have any problems with relationships with ghosts. No. Oh, I have a lot. Yeah. You start unpacking. Also why do female friends act like? I don't know. Look at my person. Okay, so with me that the problem is not the female. Let's talk about it. It's not the female. Yeah. Yeah. The problem is the female's man. Oh. You know what I mean? Like guys, I feel like I've lost so many. You've lost so many. You should be protected by your female friend in that relationship. Oh, it's the thing of like, oh, I understand. That's her man. It's very tricky because at the same time, man, that is your man and you're always going to put your man first. I get it. It's relationships. Like it's that thing of one game that I went to because it's also a lot now. It's one of those and I respect that. And also as a male friend, I know my boundaries, you know. And yeah, man, if anything, I come to you as Percy. I'm your friend as Percy. Yeah. But how your man feels... Oh, yes. We need to consider your man because that's your man and you love him. Speaking of like a lot of experience, how many female friends have you had to like... How much? Like you have to range. Give us like a range. I'm maybe lost, yeah. Not lost. Don't know how many you have. And lost actually. Maybe like around eightish. Like you have eight female friends. No, not right now. Like in my life. Maybe like you have eight, ten. You know, that I've had to like cut ties with because you're spent. One per year. Oh, what's happening? Sorry. Trust me, bro. And if you know me, like, I still happen to be friends with so many girls. How many? If you have to say like a number. I don't want to say anything. You know? If you have to say how many female friends you have. Like friends are like... Like genuine friends. Right now. Right now, right now. I can't say any names. Hey, but not even if I say... You miss one. You miss one. Say 'ro, do me... Yeah, you're really close to them. I'm not as close. I'm not as close to my friends. I'm not as close to them. I'm not as close as them. Obviously there's like this amo... Amo's mind, like, past your mouth. There's... There's... She's still a friend. Say the name. We'll confirm for you. We'll tell you. We'll tell you. We'll tell you. We'll tell you. We'll tell you. Let's say it's too good to continue. All right. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We'll be able to go like seven-eighths. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Seven-eighths. Okay, seven-eighths. You've lost six-seven-eighths. Seven-eighths. Seven-eighths. He ate! (Laughter) Okay, but I love how the energy shifted the moment we went from, you know, males making friendships with males, like, how easy it was. And then now a woman is a whole... Oh, no. I've never seen that. So, do you guys think for women, it's the same, like, making friends with new girls, like, women on women friendships? How real do you think... Before we go there, I don't unpack minds. Oh, yeah. Go ahead, go ahead. So, bro, with me, my biggest problem with, like, having female friends... And this is why I set such strict boundaries with, like, two men, zero. Ten-eighths, ten-eighths, ten-eighths. Female friends treat the equivalent male friend as their partner. That's right. So, you have all those percentages of a boyfriend. So, now if I'm saying something, you'll go get drinks. If we were two girls, the bowl is being split. Yeah. When the bowl comes now, I don't know if you need the bathroom or what's happening when you're playing with your phone. It's weird, bro. This is it, this is it, this is this year. The ceiling is in love. All of a sudden, someone's going to go get fresh outside. Let's take a selfie. Yeah, let's take a selfie. So, that's very uncomfortable. That's why I love to be so much, bro. And so, like, doing all these barricades, like, how much this is going to cost? How much this experience can I send you the money? To me, as my banking details, which I love. Another thing that I don't like is that, like, they look, also, boundary-sitting as offs. If I'm in a relationship, I'm not the ones that I've named. I'm talking about previous female friends that have failed, right? Yeah. The ones I have, ten out of ten. Like, they'd call me first in moments of trouble. Why is skipping your father, your brother, your cousins? That part. You know what I'm saying? The safe space. Yeah. After eight. Also, like, after eight pm, nine pm, why are you calling me? I've got a girlfriend. Oh, okay. Oh, John, what are you doing? You can't make plans with me. Calling you at one a.m. Yeah. Looks like you committed a crime. It's calling you bad. It's different if I was single. Yeah. Yeah. So, I've really had to learn how to, like, literally create really strict boundaries with my female friends. Otherwise, it becomes uncomfortable. For me, if I'm in a relationship with the person I'm seeing, or my other guy friends. This just made me think about, like, how, like, your female friends will call you to, like, the club. And, obviously, it's the thing of, okay, show them me coming through. Are you thinking, okay, my friend wants to have fun with me. But, no, they want you to be prepared. They want you to be paid for about that. I hate to win. I hate to win, like, people, like, and I'm so sorry to my friends that do this. Like, when it goes, like, let's go to the club. Let's go to drama. Let's go to otherwise. Let's go to otherwise, knowing very well, like, there's no section. No, like, they're basically, they should be saying, hi, Tatoo, I've got a proposal. I would love to experience a club today. Do you mind paying for all of the bottles tonight? Oh, I'm trying to say well. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. If I say no. Yeah, you wouldn't say no. You're going to be like, oh, that's, that's a great idea. Can I add this? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a big tool for someone recommending that's expensive and they're not going to pay for it. Contribute. Mm. Good thing. It seems to us into maybe our next theme, which is called, like, you know, the toxic friendship, right? Yeah. And to just define toxic for people back, and we are defining a lot these days, guys. But, toxic refers to a pattern or behavior or attitude that is harmful poisonous. Yeah, harmful. That's been toxic, excuse me. And this is a woman called us, or every, every, every, or destructive to others or oneself. Toxic behavior can manifest in various ways, including emotional manipulation, verbal aggression, passive aggressive behavior, gas lighting, selfishness, narcissism, lack of envy and teeth conditions apply. Oh, that's what they mean when they say, well, toxic. Yeah. Imagine when someone goes there, when someone calls you toxic, they're literally saying you're poisoning me. You're poisoning us in my life. Mm. You're poisoning us. Oh, so I, I stopped. I stopped. That's the one I had to highlight. Yeah. Poison us. Obviously, I don't think, I think we're very blessed to have each other. We, too, guys, as a friendship group have a lot of toxic traits. It's, it's, I think in every friendship, you're going to have toxic traits. And it's all about, um, how much toxicity you can take, how much poison you can take. Yeah. But, how have you guys in your friendship group, or our friendship group, how have you guys identified toxic traits and stopped them? I'll wait 'cause I want to see what your answer is 'cause I never see you guys do. I'll start. I'll start. I'll wait. Okay, wait. So I'm a, I'm a bad communicator, right? I'm the worst. I'm the worst. So like, if you know me, if you really need me, call me. If you text me, I might respond next week, or maybe next month, or maybe next week. So like, girl, that's me, you know, 'cause I'll, I'll, I'll be chilling 'cause I'm always busy, you know? My business. Call me. Let's get you to the point. So, I'm very bad at communication. I'm that friend you see at drama at 11 p.m. and all the boys are out of home. They don't know I'm a drama 'cause I'm just a bad communicator. And, um, how's that been identified and, like, fixed? Did you fix it? Obviously, you can tell when the boys are not happy with some, like, certain decisions, you know, so. We're very serious. We have meetings guys. Yeah, yeah, we have meetings guys. Like, we unpack everything, you know? Like, fix everything right now. So, yeah, man, um, I do try it now, communicate level. I just left the house. Yo, bro. Um, should I get you anything? I'm at KFC right now. I know you like, I'm doing this. Can I get it? It's four. You know, I'm a lie. Some of them lie. It's not lie. Exactly. And then, yeah. After, after, after, she's not adding the parts of the piece of complaining. Oh, so the pieces of complaining. So the pieces of complaining. Yeah, I mean, there's complaining. You're not complaining about your community. Yeah, nah, nah, nah, even though. 'Cause we see each other every day, though. Oh. So he's worse 'cause I'm really-- You really need love and relationships and friendships. Guys, I'm-- I'm very emotional, man. I'm so hard. How do you cope with me? How do you deal with me? No, you guys know I don't like going home. It's very hard for families. These aren't paidies. Yeah, nah. Sometimes I feel like you haven't lived well. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I'm making a man. I can't make it a boy. It makes it. Sometimes I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. But I'm calling because this is your brother. It's my brother, yeah. Yeah. If anything, that's your main community. I feel like I had to do the chill. And then he chill for real. You know, but with you, it would be like, yeah, not corn. I've never touched your neck like that. No, but I've never-- But he's never grabbing me, guys. Like, 'cause now it's gonna seem like-- Ah, so, it kind of-- It's everything we say, man. So, you know, people-- I've already said, "Hey, I should have done a video. I've used this level on baby." Hey, they're like, I saw the previous video that he started recording this, and he said, "You see, it didn't smile from this minute to this minute." [laughter] Hey, but just to change the vibe completely personally, we're gonna play a bit of a game. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, sometimes when you have guests, guys, we play a little bit of a game. We try to make the games unique, and it's a new game every time. Yeah. So, the game is called the Game of Rands, right? Of Rands. We basically have three amounts of Rands. So, the first amount is 1,000 Rands. Cool. Then you have 100 Rands. Cool. Then you have 10 Rands. Now, with each of these three amounts, one name, you would take out. You take out, it can be a friend, because we are on the French. It can be a romantic partner. It can be a girl. It can be an Instagram girl. Internet sensation. Yeah. You know, in fact, we're at just one close. It has to be one Internet girl, okay? One friend. Okay. And... Let's take the one more. And one consequence you've never met, basically. So, one Internet girl that you just like, wow. A friend. And a consequence. So, who gets the 1,000? Who gets the 100? And who gets the 10? Yeah, so, yeah. Let's start at 10. So, at 10 Rands, who are you taking out? Yo. At 10 Rands. So, it's a friend. You can choose the one, yeah. Okay, my friend's getting the 10 Rands. Your friends, nah? Yeah. Which friend? You can name a friend. I love you. I eat half. Yeah. Go, go, go buy a chip instead and walk back. Yeah, I know all the dates. Real. Okay, if you have 100 Rands. 100 Rands. This is for anyone, right? Mm-hmm. I'll give it to my sister. Okay. Yeah. If you have 1,000 Rands. Mm-hmm. This is the content creator now. No! This is me, my son. She think my son was... Mm-hmm. No, man. 1,000,000. Yes, boy. Who would I give a title to? Just me, I'm better than you. Yeah, like, just like a celebrity crush. Yeah. Or you take them on a date. Yeah. Obviously, a thousand is not enough. It's not enough. But, like, let's just say a thousand was a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. What's her name? Um, um, um, um, um, she's an actor. That gorgeous actor, man. What's her name? From which one? Lindamtobah. Yeah. From where? Oh, my God. Oh, Lindamtobah. That's a question. Now, if you've got 10,000 Rands. You! And who can I give you to? Anyone. Remember your choice. Remember at the 10 Rands you had me? 10,000. You're not going to give me the 10,000. Take them to Zimbabwe. You know what? Take them to... How did they be us put them? Tom? I'll give you to my ex. I'll give you to my ex. Okay. And that's been the game of houses. Now, that was a nice little game, guys. But, you guys, just since we always, almost like the halfway mark. Just want to say, guys, thank you so much, almost, for watching. Please like just the video, please, guys. We're trying to get our likes up, put up the community. Please, please, please, please. We notice these things and we care about them a lot. All right. On to the next. On to the next. On to the next. On to the next. On to the next. So, the next theme is, can you trust your friends with everything? No. And this is, we're going to do it in percentages, right? Yeah. So, for me, out of everything that goes through, out my day, the struggles that I go through, how much is the percentage of what you guys see? Let's see. Okay. So, let's do it like this now. We'll use us three here. So, basically, what's your apartment? Yeah. Okay. So, basically, what's your apartment? How much trust do you give me? On scale from zero to ten. Apart? Yeah. Everything that goes into your life, everything that happens to you, how much of a percentage do we know? If you had to say one number, so, let's say, like, everything that goes on, like, say, something that happens to you today, let's say... Oh, I had a different question. Yes. Let's say you had to pay a shopkeeper said, "Hey, you're looking..." Oh, so, you're not going to tell your boys that, so that's minus one percent, basically. Yeah. How much of a percentage do you guys think you share about your lives with us? Okay, person. I think maybe 90 percent? Oh. Oh. Really? You guys know everything. I mean, my person's even done with stories from two years ago. Oh, I thought... Yeah. You're very, very, so good person. Yeah. After Jim, every time, those Jim sessions, story time. And those Jim sessions bang. Oh, for me, there's all of the story time, you know? You can speak always, you know. I feel like I've told Tato almost everything. And I'm only saying 90 because there's always, like, fillers, you know? I'll be like, "Oh, by the way." Oh, by the way. Yeah. That's all. So, right now, I'm talking about, like, a good 90 because, yeah, I mean, they know my life. We live together. Basically, you know, they know my life, they know... Yeah, so I can say 90, a good 90. Yeah, I think, first of what's been happening when you guys know me, I'd say, like, I'm open, bro. I'd say, like, 80%. You know, it's crazy. Mine was low. Like, 80%. Yeah, no, like... I'd say to you, like, 70-something percent of what happens in my life. What? Like, there's, like, 30% of the things you guys don't know. But I just don't think that you guys would care. Like, what? I have to think. I have an example. Like, I only know what I would not care about. I haven't thought about it. I haven't thought about it. I can't say it on camera. Oh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I'd say 70-something percent. Yeah. So, I'll say it with my other 20%. That's just... The other 20% is just because of work stuff. Like, I'd speak to you guys about all the work things I do and stuff. Same. Mine is work. Mine is family. Like, family stuff also. Yeah. This bothers me, but I'm not going to say it to my boys. Nah. I mean, I'm saying... I tell you guys everything about work, too. So, that's why I'm keeping it at a 90. Yeah. Work also say a lot, yeah. But when it comes to, like, what do we do outside people in times? 100%? 100%? Yeah. I can tell you what's going on. We're going to have pain. You're going to make for three minutes. You're going to make for three minutes. Make a big, big, big. Mine, too. Mine, too. Told you, Jalee. Yeah. So, okay. So, obviously, you guys are saying that you're very trusting in your friendships. Has it always been this way? Have you always had this easy way? Because I know there's a lot of people that struggle with trust and trust. Because, obviously, guys, let's be your friends. Sometimes can be competitive. True. They can be, you know. So, let's not act like we've always had this perfect friendship. There's been other friendships. Do you guys always have that trusting element? Yeah. No. So, like, we were saying, like, our friendships squad, like, they're supposed to fall. The biggest squad is six. Like, I trust everyone differently. I know everyone's, like, reception to things. So, like, for example, when I speak about, like, business, success, I know I can easily speak to you and you about it easily without being, like, a sense of competitiveness. But other people, like, I might not have that same comfort. Do you hear what I'm saying? Yeah. So, I mean, even with the existing friendship, if I'm being real with other people, there's some things that, like, I can't easily say. Yeah. Because I just know character and I know that, like, how to make someone feel. Yeah. And even in the past, like, I've had friends where I speak about what I'm doing when I was failing, when I was succeeding. And it's like, when I was failing, I could see the reception. I was like, okay, cool. Like, okay, he's not doing great all the time. Yeah. And I was succeeding. It kind of pushed them away because I thought, like, they were like, yo, this guy's doing all these things and I'm like, I'm here, what am I doing? So, I think, yeah, there's been lots of friendships that have died from my side, just due to the fact that, like, I can't easily speak about things because it becomes competitive. You know, Tesla says this and, like, I had, like, the biggest fear of that happening in my, like, my friendship groups and et cetera. But I got such, like, an opposite reaction, which really goes into, you must know what type of friend you're going to have. You know what I'm saying? We speak about, like, getting to know your friend on this podcast. We spoke about how to make friends. We spoke about identifying toxic traits in our friends, how to eliminate them. But we also need to understand, okay, who wants to know all of that? Is this the type of person you want to be friends with, you know? I think I stuck a lot of, a lot in my earlier twenties. I was friends with everyone, bro. I used to be friends with everyone. I'm the guy on the campus. We're like, I treat. You have to wait with me for, like, a while. I have to, you have to greet everyone. Those people. Yeah. Like, they're okay. You do, no? I greet everyone. Every girl, every guy as well. And then as time goes on, you realize that there's less need. That's what they're saying. You identify that I can do certain things with certain friends. Yeah. But I can't do all of them. Yeah. You know, accessibility is a huge thing in men's life because we're accessible to a lot. Women restrict themselves all the time. They won't apply to every DM. Guys will look at the DM. Like it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Men are less selective, you know? So I think that's just one thing. So I don't know how to open up about that. But I just thought, I just took that from you. Yeah. Yeah. Here with me, it's a thing of, like, okay, you explain how, um, that's the reason why you guys didn't jello anything, right? Yeah. Like, what's the, like, do you easily, has there been any, like, failed relationships because there's trust issues. It's too competitive. Or you feel like it's this person, I don't know. Can I have one? Can I do one more? Yeah. No, ladies first. Okay. Go ahead. What's the lady here? But anyways, okay. I've been in a situation whereby, um, not that I don't, I don't jowl with you as a person or whatever. I just feel like we're, like, our visions, man. When, when, when, when I become friends with someone now, I need to see you in the next ten years in order for you to, like, stay in my life. You know, like, what values are you adding into my life as well? Are you just there for, I'm just chilling with P.S.E. or are you there because you're my boy, boy? Like, what do you bring to the table? You see what? Girls always ask, what do you, what do you bring to the table, whatever? I am the table. I am the table. Yeah. I am like a restaurant. Like, I need to carve, man. But I haven't really had hectic ones, you know, when it comes to that. I still have boys that are my friends with back in Varsity. We're no longer tight like that because of work on my side. But we still speak. We're still boys, you know. And I'll probably build you guys more because of work. Also, we stay in the same area, you know. And yeah, like, just the bond. We actually all don't stay in the same area. We stay very far from each other. No, we don't. Dude, you know how far your place is from my place? It's like a good 15 minutes. 15? Yeah, you crazy person. It's like 20 something minutes. We stay close, us three were close because what do you-- You're close to me. Yes. You are far from me. Dude, Percy's workplace is five minutes from where you live. Yeah. Yeah, but number one. Number one. That's why. How often is Percy at work? Every day. Exactly. If it comes to you, it will come to you. You are 15 minutes or 18 minutes. I'm very close to the distance. In terms of distance. Then Percy and I are, you know, actually stay lucky from each other. But it's just, it's crazy. I'm really broke because I discovered a pecker routine. It's literally a good 15, 18. Oh. No, less than that, trust. I think for me, I forgot to mention this with one picture or like rather, why couldn't trust someone if everything is that we were in a friendship squad of three. There's two guys, one girl. Me and the girl, like, had a thing. And then the guy, because they were closer, they were, like, started becoming friends more than me. And obviously we had our, like, our disagreements and walked away from each other. That's where the insecurity comes from. But I realized that, like-- Yeah. You see the friendship. Because we grew up together. We grew up from literally grade eight all the way into, like, university. We did our early lives together. But after that, like, after we had that, like, argument or, like, we went our separate ways, I just haven't spoken to both of them since. But they're still, like, the closest of friends. But I have not seen them. Oh, those ones. I have not seen them. Because, you know what would happen, bro? For example, like, we were, it's not an earlier on in the friendship, but I should have identified it. But we go to, like, Hatfield. And I, back in Hatfield, I used to be, like, an academic, bro. I studied all the time. Like, I studied all the time. All my time goes into stage. Oh, can you hear how you speak, brother? This man is well spoken. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, so I studied all the time. I studied all the time. And then, like, my one friend, the other one, lived with the girl. She lived in, like, Cape Town in New Zealand for a while. So she'd come, and then they wouldn't tell me she came. And she wouldn't tell me. Oh, damn. And keep in mind, I haven't seen her in, like, two years. Damn. Yo, how did that make you feel, bro? And I'd watch the story and then be like, oh, there she is. And then they'd be like, oh, yeah. But we thought she was studying, so. That vibe. And from moments like that, I learned how to communicate and be, like, a better person and what about in my friendships. Because I never wanted that to happen to me or another person, again. Feel me. Yeah, guys. So we've been speaking a lot about friendships. And I think it's actually so much fun, just seeing, like, Percy's perspective and, like, half, half friendship form, levels perspective, things that we're already uncomfortable with. And I'm just really doing this conversation. And I feel like it's something that all friends should do. And then before this conversation, I was like, yo, bro, I'm actually so keen for Percy to come. Because you and I have grown so much in these conversations because it's kind of a space where you're allowed to be vulnerable and, like, no one can judge you because it's a podcast. It's a podcast. It's a podcast. So I think if you guys have, like, friendships and you guys want to, like, maybe make it better, I think you guys should sit down and just say, show me, let's be here, like, we're shooting a podcast about friendships. And real point ourselves. And just speak. And just be honest. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing your favorite seats with seats at a level and Tato Rumpeti. We will see you guys next time. But please, guys, before you go, just like, subscribe. So the Tato do three and share. Bye, guys. Seriously. Tato go. [MUSIC]