In this episode let's look at the Hook, Story, and Offer of 5 of the most profitable webinars...

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What's up everyone? Hey, I am excited for today. I'm excited to share some things with you. I actually have been preparing for this episode alone for, I think, at least a month.

And I know that's kind of crazy, but honestly I've been trying to figure out and distill down how to actually share with you these lessons over an audio without actually visually seeing it.

So, I'm excited to go through this. What I want to do is, I want to walk through, if you guys haven't noticed in the last little bit here, I'm going to talk about Russell Brunson again here, right? And if you noticed, especially those of you guys at the last FunnelHacking Live, Russell sold a 2 Comma Club coaching The X Program.

It's amazing. It's incredible. We have tons of people in there. We took the program that we created about a year ago, and we made it this full-out, blown-out thing. We brought all the coaches in. And it's just been a bunch of fun.

So, I have the incredible honor to continue to teach, offer creation and sales message development to all the new students. It's just been a lot of fun. The more I get into it, just like anything, I continue to learn.

We don't teach the same thing every single time...

I constantly look for new patterns, new ways not just to teach it, but to understand it and make it more and more simple and more and more applicable, and more and more ...

The biggest thing I fight is, I treat every individual who bought the coaching program like they're my customer.

Therefore, what are your false beliefs? What are the ways I can get you to learn the most?...

So, anyways. If you notice, one of the first videos in there for those of you guys that were able to go in and grab it, you guys have probably seen this. It's an absolutely amazing video. For those of you guys who have not, I don't know when Russell will open up 2 Comma Club coaching X again, but seriously look into it, okay?

I'm blown away...

I've never seen him create an offer like this and it's just been amazing...

So, anyways, one of the first videos you see when you log into these ... It's part of the core training, before you come over to my course which is Secrets Master class, is this training that Russell does about the hook, the story, and the offer.

He actually did a podcast episode about this recently as well. In all things, all we're trying to do is make things more and more and more simple. In a world where sometimes we confuse complexity with prestige, which is stupid. That's not true at all, okay?

Needing to sound smart, that's not serving anybody except your own self, which ultimately doesn't serve you ever.

We try and make it more and more and more and more simple. It's actually harder to make things more simple, to bring things down to a place where it's like, "Look, you need this, this, and that." For my little 15 minute speech I gave at FunnelHacking Live, I prepared for nine hours.

Seriously, nine hours for 15 minutes. I remember I voxed Russell and I was like, "Dude, 15 minutes, man. It took me nine hours," and he was laughing and he was like, "Yeah, that's the price of simplicity."

And it's so true...

So, anyways, what I wanted to do is, I want to show you that framework all over the place. If you look at some of the most profitable webinar follow-up sequences ever, I want you to know the hook, story, and offer pattern is everywhere. It's not just hook for sales message as a whole.

It's not just story for the entire thing as a whole. It's not just offer for the entire thing you're trying to sell. It's in every little aspect, every little piece.

So, what I did a little while ago is, you guys know January I left Click Funnels, and I was like, "Hey, I'm going to call my shot here." This is pretty nervous. I left Click Funnels with no offer, no message, I had no funnel, nothing. Two kids and a pregnant wife.

That's part of my hook, me telling you that right now. It's like, "Holy crap, what did you do?" House payment, payments all over the place, that's pretty ballsy, right? That's why I was doing it.

I was trying to call my own shot with it, and say where I was going to go and make my story for it...

Which is exactly right, hook, story, and then I put together an offer. What I did is, when I first launched my webinar, I launched it, I did just this basic version. I knew it was broken. Guys, my funnel is still limping on one foot.

I know it is...

There's so much that's wrong with it, so much that's wrong with it. I've been going through and re-writing the entire script and just re-did it again, and did it in front of a live audience again, and it was awesome. We did really well.

But I'm constantly refining these things down. After about two months, so about the beginning of March, I was like, "I need to go re-write the entire webinar." I want to re-build the entire funnel, but I want to make it like, super awesome.

To the tenth degree, go all the way, which is kind of my mentality on everything. But I want to make it go all the way, just make it awesome. And so I started thinking, webinar is what I teach all the time and I'm good at them, and I like writing offers and scripts and sales message and message to market match.

I love that stuff. It's super fun. It's my obsession, even more than funnel building, which might shock you. I obsess over this topic greatly, offer creation and sales messages. But I was like, "I want to go do it on a deep, deep funnel hack of the top webinars that are out there."

Biggest webinars, most successful webinars that I could go find, that are easy for me to go grab data on real quick. I have a list of some of the top webinar gurus on my whiteboard. Lots of them. Anyone from Russell, of course, to Sam Ovens, and tons of these different webinar junkies, on guys that make big cash primarily through that method.

And what I did is I started logging into all their stuff, I started grabbing everything they've got and I started going through and grabbing all the email sequences.

Anyways, I specifically wanted to go through Russell's follow-up sequences for some of the most profitable webinars I've ever seen him do, ever.

And so what I've got here next to me, and what I started going and doing was I was, of course I'm opted in everywhere, for everything that that man puts out, but I went through and I printed off all of the webinar sequences.

Specifically the email copy for the FunnelHacks webinar. That thing's done like, 50 million, 60 million, something like that. Which is crazy. In like, three years? The CF certified webinar, man, that thing made a ton of money. I don't know the exact number on that one but it's millions and millions and millions and millions, right?

Lots of money...

High ticket secrets, that was one of the most profitable webinars that Russell ever had as well. High ticket secrets. I grabbed that one and the follow-up sequence for that. You know what I mean? I just opted in. I printed out the emails that came. Does that make sense?

So I opted in, waited a while, printed it out, and then I laid them all out. Software secrets, that one was a huge one. Follow-up funnels, oh baby. Anyway. So I have five sequences of these webinars in front of me. This is actually going to be a two-part episode. There's no way I'm going to get through all this right now.

But what I wanted to do is, I did like, for like two straight days my blood was surging with caffeine, dub-step blasting, but I laid out all of the sequences across my floor. Some of you guys saw my Facebook live as I went through that at a pretty high level.

I pretty much for two straight days, I read the sequences and I studied them very, very, very in-depthly. What I went through afterwards is writing on my whiteboard the ultimate sequence. When you are reading that much copy...

It was a lot of paper. It was like 50 pages at least. I don't even know. This is fat, I mean, I'm holding them all together. It's a pretty fat stack.

When you go through that depth, you start to see patterns. Especially when you're studying from the same person. That's one of the reasons why I dive so deeply on everything Russell has done, is because I want to see where his head is.

Not just what he's writing. Not just what he's putting out. Not just this hook, story, and offer. I want to see what progression is going on in his noggin. Right? And, by doing so, I can see where he's actually looking and what he's trying to accomplish.

It's been cool to do that. When you have that kind of ... Proximity's power, right? It's huge. It's why I always encourage everyone to get a coach, be a coach, anyway...

So, what I did is, I laid them all out and I started doing this deep dive and I realized that there were these intense patterns throughout the sequences that I don't know that I've ever heard him teach, and I don't know that I've ever taught them that way either.

Next episode, what I want to do is dive into a lot of the actual commonalities and lessons between them on a pretty in-depth level. For this episode, what I wanted to do is I wanted to walk through and show you guys hook, story, and offer in each one of these sequences.

And show you and let you know that they're actually in every single one of them. It's not just like this overarching thing. I want to sell X product. I'm going to create this offer, but first I'm going to go test it with this sales message. Oh, awesome, the sales message is making cash now.

Sweet, I should go finish making the offer and make the funnel amazing. It's the reason I haven't made my funnel amazing yet, is because I've been waiting to make sure I've got all the pieces together. I'm so glad I did because of all the stuff that I found while doing this.

Anyway. I'm holding right now the sequence for the follow-up funnels webinar, and it's pretty ridiculous. And if you don't know what this one is, this is one FunnelHacking Live 2017 Russell wanted to go backwards and look and see how much money is actually being made after the initial cash is taken from somebody.

How much money does each dollar turn into? And he found out, this is the hook, yes, $16.49 for every one dollar. Crazy. The subject line is the hook. The subject line is the hook. You're not selling anything inside the email. The only thing the subject line's selling is they want you to open the email.

The subject line of an email is selling you opening it. That's it. They just want you to open the email. But it's this hook, massive curiosity, and for a long time we've been trying to figure out how to better describe what a hook is.

If you think about it, a hook is really just a piece of curiosity that pulls you along. That's why we call it a hook. It hooks you. Hooks you like, "Wait a second, what?" It's what grabs your attention, both eyeballs, and makes it go, "Wait, what?"

That's another way to think of a hook...

So it's usually some element of a story. It can be part of a headline. It could be before a headline. It's a little bit fluid and for a while, we've had a hard time to explain it because they're a little bit, I don't know, almost ... They're so fluid and evasive it's like, how do you ... Anyway.

So, think of it that why. The hook is the crazy piece of the story that makes people want to listen to the rest of it. It's the thing that makes people say, "Oh my gosh, I have to stop what I'm doing immediately and watch what the rest of this is."

So what I want to go do is, I'm going to dive through hook, story, and offer through each one of these sequences because it's extremely powerful when you start looking through all of it. Think about this real quick, right?

We got a webinar registration page. On the webinar registration page, or free plus shipping page, or high ticket application page, or if you're selling retail or SAS it doesn't matter. Any page where it's the first interaction with somebody.

Or it could be even on the ad. The first touch point with a perspective or a current customer, that is the place you're tossing your hook in.

So the registration page in this scenario has a hook, a story, and an offer on just that page. Each email has a hook, story, an offer. On each email, the hook is the subject line. The story is the first part of the email.

Usually there's some kind of offer or call to action at the end of the email. On most cases. Every once in a while, there's ... Anyway. Definitely for emails that are selling stuff this is always the pattern.

I was looking through and I was studying this and I saw Russell dropped that out there and I was like, "Yeah, that's true. Look how this fits in. Boom, boom, boom, all over here." By the way, it's on the thank you page, it's a reinforcement of that hook. It's a reinforcement of the story.

It's a reinforcement of why the offer's amazing, why you should show up and cancel everything during that webinar time and show up. All the indoctrination sequences, all they're doing, it's another shot at a hook that makes you again want to go clear your schedule.

You're literally telling the story for secret number one. The offer is get on the freaking webinar and it will tell you the rest of this.

Does that make sense? It literally ... Think of that. If you're like, "Steven, I like building in Click Funnels, I like building webinar pages, I like building pages in general, all this stuff is fun to me but I don't know what to always put on the pages." At a very top high level, just think through hook, story, offer.

Hook, story, offer...

Per page. Per email sequence. Per touchpoint. Per engagement. Per content. Guess what I did, literally, on my legal pad right next to me before I started recording this episode? I wrote H, S, O. Hook, story, offer.

The hook: I'm going to talk to you guys about the most profitable webinar follow-up series on the internet, or series-es. The story: I'm starting with the story so you guys have backstory on why this stuff matters, because I'll tell you more about that in just a second.

And then I have somewhat of an offer and call to action at the end of this. And me delivering this chunk of content is the offer. When you think of it that way, it's not always a stack, slide. Stack, slide is a framework to create an offer.

Anyway, so I want to walk through this here real quick. Because I'm just going to be honest with you guys. When I first started going through and into this stuff, what am I doing? I'm writing a story. Here's the story, okay? When I first started doing this stuff, and I got interested in it, I started following ...

It was actually Pat Flynn from Smart Passive Income. He really got me going on internet stuff. Listening to his podcast, I had not heard of Russell Brunson at the time. I was listening to a lot of a guy named Sean Terry and was doing a lot of house flipping stuff. He had a great podcast.

He got me going as well on some other things...

This was like, six years ago. Those guys have been awesome and really were the catalysts to get me along and then finally I was like, "Oh my gosh, who's this Russell guy?" And I started diving deep into his stuff.

But honestly, when I first started learning these things, I started going through and I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool but, how do I do this without writing?" I hated English. I hated writing papers. I hated ...

I got good at them because I wanted to get through the pain as fast as I could. But I didn't actually want to get good at the writing aspect. All this internet stuff, I was like, "Yeah, it's all about the copy." I kind of wanted that to not be true. I wanted it to not matter.

So I dove deep, you guys, I was huge into design stuff. I got two state ... I'm sorry, I got three. Three Colorado State awards for my layout and designs in high school. I was the head editor of yearbook. For layout, not writing. For layout, not photography.

For layouts...

So I've been studying page layout and design for like, probably, a lot of my life. The majority of it now, which is awesome. I wanted the design to be the thing that sold. I wanted the design ... And the farther I got into this, you guys, you have to know I started realizing that wasn't true.

For example, insert testimonial, here it comes. When I was driving traffic for Paul Mitchell, I was in college, and a buddy and I ... It's funny, a lot of the Paul Mitchell schools in the area started coming over and they were like, "Hey, how do we get more of the social media crap going?"

And all of our professors were like, "We don't know what these two kids are doing, but hire them." So they did. And from our marketing classes, we got hired out to go actually do the stuff, not just learn it, which was really funny.

And we started driving lots of traffic for Paul Mitchell schools, so that they would have more walk-ins into their stores...

And it was interesting. And still, to that time, and this was four years ago, still to this day, I was still to that time, I was not ... I was still kind of hoping that design was the thing that would do it. That the layout ... and there's certain element that totally matters of that.

But what actually does the actual selling is the copy. We spent, I think, three hours on the headline for one of the campaigns we were running for Paul Mitchell. And it was working. And it was at that time that I started realizing like, "Gosh," because it was an active thought of mine like, I was trying to avoid the whole topic of writing. I did not want that to be true.

I did terrible most of the time in English...

I did terrible. When it was about stories, I actually did really well in English. When it was about research papers, I did terrible. I hated them. Just completely awful at them. Anyway. So it was around that ... I started realizing, "Oh my gosh, I gotta learn more about this thing, this copy writing thing."

And I started diving more deeply and that's when I ran into the Dotcom Secrets X. A lot of you guys know that story...

This stuff matters like crazy. If you look at some of those profitable funnels now that are out there, you wouldn't say that they visually are actually that attractive. Some of them are. And I'm not saying it doesn't matter.

I'm not saying you can't make it aesthetically pleasing. I do everything that I can to do that, but the ultimate bar that actually turns the dollar, the actual crank is obviously the words on the page. So obsess over that. The ability to write and the ability to put out ideas...

If there's anything else I would have done, if I could look back and like classes I wish I would have taken, I would've take debate. I would've taken a lot more creative writing. I would've taken a lot more stage presenting styled stuff. Which I actually did do a lot of that.

But, anyway. So I want you to know, I'm going to walk through real quick, as the one that Click Funnels hires to go teach this stuff to other people, with my lens.

Not to beat my chest, but meaning I want you to know that what I'm looking at here and what I'm looking for has taken not just a lot of time personally studying this stuff, but the lens that I'm looking at it through, this stuff's popping off the page at me.

Anyways, I want to walk through some of the most profitable ... This is part one of two. First of all, I'm going to go through hook, story, offer on each one of these funnels. There's five webinar funnels. Very, very, very lucrative funnels and dive deep.

In fact, I encourage you to do that very thing and I would go print out the top selling stuff. Go get it. Print it out. Study it like crazy. There's no other higher leverage activity I can think of, you spending your time on, than studying the copy of previously vastly successful sales letters.

Anyway. So one of the first things I want to point out is, before I dive into this as well is that each one of these email sequences, what's fascinating is, when I printed them out and I put them all across the floor, I already knew it would do this but it's just cool how it reinforced it was.

You can read them like a story...

The whole webinar follow-up sequence is a story, all of it. All of it goes and it wraps in together. It did not feel like there was anything random sert in. Random little inserts put in. It's almost like a ... Very similar to a Seinfeld episode, right?

Where when one episode ends, I'm begging for the next one to start because it was awesome...

Each one of these reads like a story. There's a logical progression throughout them. They're connected. It's not like these little tiny pop-shot emails all over the place. "Three hours left." "Two hours left."

Three hours left, but like, what's the story?...

Two hours left okay, but what's the story? How did it tie into the last one? What's the logical progression? So these are like works of art when I look at them...

I'm sorry it's taken me 19 minutes already to get to this, but I'm excited to. Let me just go through each one of these real quick here and walk you through some of the hook, story, offer of each one of these sequences.

So first I'm looking at the follow-up funnels webinar and it's the one where Russell did a really awesome up-sale to get a lot of people to upgrade to Actionetics at FunnelHacking Live 2017.

So what's the hook? The hook, the piece of curiosity. What? 16 dollars on the back end for every dollar on the front end? Whoa. There's the hook. It's also part story there.

The story there is Russell saying, he goes, "First off, I want to thank you so much for registering for the webclass. I wanted to make sure that you have a chance to watch it in the next 24 hours because as I mentioned, you get a special bonus that you don't get if you wait until tomorrow to watch it."

Whoa. Now let's dive a little bit here into the origin story. Which is what he did. This is the first email they're getting after they register. Great time for an origin story. Here it goes. He's starting right into it.

"During this webinar I am hoping to save you, hoping you'll have the same epiphany I did." He's actually pulling it on out. Here it goes. Here it goes, the origin story. "As the owner of Click Funnels, I obviously create a lot of funnels. Sometimes I'm not aware where all of our sales and profit is coming from.

...So last December I pulled all of our numbers, and I wanted to see which funnels made us a lot of money and they work together." There's some curiosity there. It's kind of like a second hook. This is the barb on the hook.

"What we found, which is crazy, is that for every dollar we made on the front end, we made 16 dollars through our back end follow-up funnels. What are follow-up funnels? That's what this presentation is all about.

In fact, I'm going to show you how a page-by-page, step-by-step, every single thing we do inside our follow-up funnels." Now I have desire to show up for this. There's a reason for me to clear my schedule.

And sometimes if you're like, "I don't know what the hook is," sometimes it's just the title for the story you're about to tell. Does that make sense? It's one of the easiest ways to think of a hook. These headlines.

The headline for secret number one...

The headline for your webinar. The headline for the webinar is literally the title for the origin story you're about to tell. A lot of times it is. It doesn't have to be, but a lot of times it is. It's one way to think of it.

"Secret number one: how to blank without blank." That's literally the title for the story that you're about to tell in secret number one.

If you're feeling this mismatch between your sales letters, it doesn't matter if you're making a webinar or not, any of your sales, if there's this mismatch in your titles and the stories you're telling, that's why...

The headline is the promise that ... It's the reason you should listen to the story. "How I blank without blank." "How to blank without blank." And that's kind of like the base format we use and more from another formats after that.

Software secrets. Next one. Software secrets goes through and hook, story, offer. Hook is, let's read through here real quick. Subject line for the very first email you get. "Your webclass is starting. Thanks for registering.

...Upcoming class, your training is about to start. Here's the access link to the webclass about to begin. Click on the link now and join all three of us inside this free training." So this is like a confirmation email. There hasn't been so much of it yet, but look, it'll keep going.

"If you've been wanting to create your own software, do not miss this webclass." Did he tell me how to? No. That's it. Just that one sentence right there, he salted curiosity throughout. "If you've been wanting to create your own software, do not miss this."

He goes on. "Did you catch the free webclass that you signed up for?" Little bit of a hook there. This is like the main hook of the second email you get after the webinar. "How much money will it cost to actually build my software program?

Hands down, that's the number one question we get from the webclass. Fun fact: did I ever tell you the first time ..." Now we're going into the story.
"The first time I made my first software for a whopping 20 dollars. True story."

He literally calls it a story. There we go: there's hook, there's story, and then he goes into the offer. "In fact I made a quick and fun video."

As we move on here he goes, "Here's what you need to do next if you want to learn this. Step number one, watch the Q and A video to find out how much you can expect your software to cost. Step number two: access the webinar replay here." That is the offer. There's a reason to take the call to action.

That's the offer right there, to grab that...

Anyway, in each one of these sequences there is one of those things. Let's go with High Ticket Secrets right now. Just grabbing the next one here. High Ticket Secrets right now. High Ticket Secrets, the title is the hook on this case. "Starting now, High Ticket secrets."

And he says, "I'm going to show you how to instantly add high ticket sales to any funnel without you personally talking to anyone on the phone ever." That is the hook. I don't want to talk to anybody on the phone for high ticket sales.

You don't have to do that. Are you kidding me? You give me the reason. In this case, the title of the webinar is the hook coming in here...

And he dives into the story and he starts talking about how he's done that. "How to plug in a new business. How to sell high ticket stuff without feeling like a used car salesperson." Two pages that you can add to any ...

If you think about it, think about it this way too. If I'm looking at just the headline of my webinar, and I'm looking at like the three secrets or whatever it is you're going to share inside there, whether it's a free plus shipping funnel or a high ticket funnel, the headline is the hook.

The headline, the title for the entire thing, that's the hook...

The three secrets? A lot of times, just the titles, the actual headlines themselves, is the story. I hope there's some a-has there. Does that make sense? Wait for, pause for effect. You think through it that way.

Anyway, I'm just moving quickly here. So I can dive into the next one as well...

CF certified. This one's pretty interesting too. Hook here is extremely strong and obvious as well. "The highest-paying part-time job in the world." This is for CF certified. "Funnel consulting: the highest-paying part-time job in the world."

That's pretty strong hook. That's pretty strong hook. That webinar sold really, really, really, just fantastically well. And as we look through here, just to prove the point, secret one, two, and three, that is the story in this case.

So we know what the hook is, let's look at the story. Here's the story: "How Amanda went from reluctant click-funnels rookie to selling 12 funnels her first 47 days." What?...

"The results first, cookie-cutter method that will give you unlimited clients. And how to easily shift from six figures a year to six figures per client per year, and a whole bunch more." What? Those are all titles of stories but he salted the oats in a way there's so much curiosity inside there I have got to go check that out.

It also happens to be the offer on that ... Anyway. What's funny is that each one of these emails is a hook, story, offer as well. Sometimes there's some elements that are stronger than others, but as kind of like a rough outline, that's another way to think about each one of these emails.

Each content piece...

When I write my podcast headlines, the title of each podcast, I'm trying to create a hook. I'm trying to salt an amassive promise in there, without you actually knowing what it is. That's the hook. Also happens to be the headline.

Not always has to be the case, but in this case it is...

All right, for FunnelHacks. This is amazing. "Anatomy of a 500,000 dollar per month sales funnel." Okay, that's a pretty strong hook. The right audience sees that and they're like, "What?"

The other kind of audience sees that and they're like, "Yeah, right." Isn't that interesting? The right person needs to see that...

In fact, when I saw his title of his webinar, "Weird niche funnel currently making me 17,000 dollars per day and how to ethically knock it off in less than ten minutes," I think that's what the hook was, but it had such a profound effect on me, I was like, "I'm in."

I didn't even have to see the webinar. I was pumped to see it. It made me even more excited. But I was the right person to see it...

That's why when you think about and when you're writing these hooks, and the stories and headlines and offers and all that stuff, who you're talking to matters so much. If I go talk to some ... Do you think it's ...

Imagine I walk up to Russell and I'm like, "Dude, I got this amazing idea. Imagine a website, but like instead of a website, it's like when they say yes to one thing, we send them to something else, like another page automatically, and we ask for more money. Again. And then we do it again. And if they say no to that, it's okay, we'll like, give them like a payment plan on something."

Is that a new opportunity of Russell? No. You have to think through when you're writing these hooks and you're writing these stories, you're putting these offers, the very first step to go through is figuring out who you're actually speaking to and to that person, is it a new opportunity? Is it a blue ocean?

It's one of the reasons my webinar does so well. I'm taking things that are already well known in another industry, I'm just changing who's hearing it. Does that make sense? Big a-has?

Reason why I wasn't a psycho for leaving and being able to with all the expenses I had and a family to pay for? Does that make sense?

Anyway. All right, so, hook. "Anatomy of a 500,000 dollar per month sales funnel." And he actually says it in the email. One of the very first things says, "While you're waiting I've got a fun story to show you. To share with you so you can be prepared.

Video one: we'll show you the anatomy of a 500,000 dollar per month sales funnel. Want to see it? Also in this video, you can see one of the most trusted website designers battle a tiny blond female in a cage fight." What? Isn't that interesting?

So every single email, every single piece of copy, every single page, every touch point with the customer. A lot of times why people don't have enough engagement is because they have the story and they've got the offer.

They got the sales message and they got the offer but every sales message has a reason why you should be listening to the story. Which is the hook. We brainstorm many times hours on that.

It is one of the easiest ways to give yourself a raise...

Just come up with a better hook.

These guys that have these offers that've been out there and they've been making tons of money with the exact same offer for years, the reason they can do it, they don't change the offer, they hardly change the story ever.

What they're doing is coming up with new hooks. And they're just dropping new hooks and they're trying to drop new hooks to the same audience, and try to expand the audience.

Anyway, I hope that that is making sense to you. And if you go through, start looking at it from that lens.

Look at the way that people go through and they come up with this hook and that hook. That's the reason why we have swipe files and swipe files and swipe files just loaded with different cool ads...

Because if we knew it was profitable, what was the hook inside that ad? And also the story inside that ad? Usually there's both inside an ad. And some kind of offer inside the ad as well.

And then they go to the next page, there's another little mini-hook, story, and offer. And they go inside, and then finally you get to the main offer of the whole thing. Then you get to the main story. Does that make sense?

Anyway, start looking at it that way and I'm going to ruin you because you're going to look at all ads, all commercials. That's the reason why we'll geek out about infomercials. If I'm late for a movie at a movie theater, I don't want to go to the movie. I don't.

I actually want to turn around, and just go to the next time because I want to see the previews. Because I'm looking for hook, story, and offer inside each one of them. If you go and you ... In fact I did a very funny thing. Go Google ... I did this probably like a year and a half ago.

I went through and I started looking ... I Googled "top phrases". "Most common phrases in movie previews." And what's funny is, guys, even though there's different movies, it's technically a different story, it's the exact same story most of the time. And you can go through and you can start looking.

They're using the same pieces of copy in almost every single movie preview. The hook might be a little bit different, it's the same story though. Some dude's freaking out, "Oh, my gosh, unexpected event." We like him because of some affinity that the commercial made us have for him or the preview.

We go through and the little tiny hero's too journey going on. Little epiphany bridge, epiphany bridge, epiphany bridge, unexpected, unexpected. It's this exact same ... It'll ruin you a little bit. But you also become a really good copy writer.

Anyway, so take it from a guy who hated actually the copy side of this whole game for a long time. It is incredibly important to go through and just if anything else, just start looking for those patterns and how you're being sold.

And how you're selling. And if it's not intentional, my guess is you can give yourself a very fast raise by making it intentional...

All right guys. Hey, thanks so much. Hopefully this is helpful to you. I'm excited for the next episode as well. I'm going to dive more into the strategies I saw in a very deep level in each one of these email sequences and the patterns and commonalities between all of them, and how it actually drastically has effected my funnel.

There's like, this whole other series and thing that I'm going and creating because of what I studied and learned, which I don't think we've really talked about. I know I haven't. I don't think I've ever heard Russell talk about it either, so.

Anyways guys, hey, thanks so much and I will talk to you and see you, well, you'll hear me on the next show. Hey, thanks for listening.

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