Meredith and Amanda are joined by bestselling author and journalist Jo Piazza for a juicy deep dive into the trad wife trend, Meghan Markle’s complicated place within it, and the cultural forces shaping how we talk about modern womanhood. 

We also unpack Meghan’s As Ever brand launch (yes, we both ordered the jam and the flower sprinkles), plus the latest legal moves in Prince Harry’s RAVEC case. A smart, spicy episode you won’t want to miss!

Keep up with Jo on IG: @jopiazzaauthor | Pre-order ‘Everyone is Lying to You’ wherever books are sold.

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