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FM Talk outdoors 8-3-2024
It's time to talk about the outdoors in South Alabama. Hunting, fishing, and getting outside along the Great Gulf Coast. It's time to take it outside with FM Talk 10065 Outdoors. With reports, stories, how-to information, and Dr. Bill's Marine forecast. Here's Sean Sullivan and Mike Ward. And the way we go, FM Talk 10065 Outdoors. Glad to have y'all long, good to see my partner. Yeah, so Mike Ward, always good to be seen by you. That's likewise here. And lots to do on today's show. Of course, the first of the August shows, this is a transitional time, man. It really is. Yeah, people say, that's October. No, no, really, it's August. It's always week or two after rodeo. That's just what it is. Now, we're two weeks-- can you believe we're already two weeks past the rodeo? That's correct. That's unbelievable, isn't it? Yep, and already into August. And most people put their boats up. A lot of people put their boats up after the rodeo just by. I'm telling you, there's so many people. They fish the rodeo, and that's about it. They don't fish anymore. No, we got Snapper still to catch. Yeah. You don't still have Snapper quoted out there. Inshore fishing's been pretty good, you know? So that's good. And of course, some of that moving up the bay, that fishing for the trout, moving up the bay, so more-- Not through the head-- Not through the head-- Well, not through the head, but they're starting to be consistent as you go mid-bay. Right. And on some of those reefs up there and all that. So it's getting-- not that there's not always some up there, but it's more consistent up the bay. You don't have to be as far south to get on fish, so that's where there's land in the water right now. Yeah. Water's clear. That is true. So people take advantage of that. And then, of course, something else we're going to talk about-- we'll talk about getting ready for the woods in a little bit. But talking about fishing and continuing fishing, a couple of weeks ago, we had Brandon Lunsford on from recreational sales trailer company. Boat trailers does utility trailers, all kind of stuff, but we got him on to talk about boat trailer. Boat trailer. Yeah, good guy. His head's already picking up. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. And those trailers, like nobody's business, and we had him on before the rodeo just to talk about things-- everybody pays attention to the boat engines and the bait and the ice and all that. So we did the thing that's different and said, "Hey, what do we need to look at?" Brandon, for our boat trailers, and he went through and that podcast was up. You all can check it out. It's really a good starter on things to check on your boat trailer. Some of the things you're like, "Oh, I would have thought of that." And some of those, "Oh, I wouldn't have thought about it." Right. And recently, I had just had some work done on my boat trailer probably a month before that show were branded. And then you went by the other day. I did. And this is-- You've been having big boats since-- I remember because I was watching you on TV since I was a kid. Right. Since a few days ago. So you've had them that long. And the fact that you and I both learned from Brandon in that interview the other day, things to check on the boat trailer, he tells everybody, "Even if you think you know everything about your boat trailer and it's ready to go, maybe you don't." Yeah. But the other day, we had him on and let me start over. A year ago, my boat trailer was like four years old. Well, it was time to get it serviced. I knew my brakes were gone, you know, so I took it and basically because I waited so long to take it by and let him check it out, we ended up having to do everything. You know, it was like I got six tires and brakes and all that, so it was like $4,000 deal to do it, which, you know, that's what it cost, you know, all that stuff done nowadays. And he told me, like he did the other day when he was on the show, you need to bring it by at least once a year and let me check everything out on it. You know, well, we're going-- and there's nothing. The Gulf Coast King Classic is going on next weekend, the 9th and 10th out of Coca-Ree Louisiana. And I'm taking my boat from Mobile to Coca-Ree Louisiana, so I said, you know, this is the perfect time. It's been a year ago. I need to take my trailer and let Brandon look at it. There's probably nothing wrong, you just need that. That's right. You know, I'm thinking I hadn't used my brakes that much, so you know, the brakes should be fine. Everything should be fine. Well, I'd take it over there to him this past week and he calls me up and he said, "Man, you don't believe this." I had water in all of my hubs, all of them, not any fault of mine, not any fault of Brandon's. But the little, what is it, were you the bearing-- Like a bearing buddy thing? Yeah, a bearing buddy thing. It was a defect and caused water to get in all my hubs. So he had replaced all of that and put new ones in and he actually called me yesterday and told me that he's going to put some new ones on there, Monday for me. So they're having a little problem with those little bearing buddy things, whatever they are, caps, whatever they are on there. So, lucky me, I took it by there and had him check it before I went to Cocodri Luciano because that's a four or five hour drive to the boat. I would not have made it over there. If I had been lucky enough to make it over there, I would not have made it back. You'd have been on the side of the road somewhere. Yeah, and I've got two extra on my trailer. I've got two extra bearings and tires and, you know, the whole nine yards. The bearing thing was good to talk about too because a lot of us will carry it, at least an extra tire. But you are the minority that carries extra bearings, I mean, it's smart. Well, it's on the tire, it's everything. You just take it all off and put it on. If you have a bearing go bad, you just pull the whole thing off and stick the whole thing on there, stick it on the spindle. So I mean, it's there and it's ready to go, but I only have two, but all my tires, six of them had water in them, so I wouldn't have made it back. It would have been bad. So I'm thankful for Brandon for checking my hubs and everything and bearings and take care of that for me. I am very fortunate. Yeah. So I'm telling everybody, especially if you're going on some long trip, you definitely need to take it by Brandon and let him check your trailer out. Period. And there's a whole bunch, if you'll go back, yeah, so that podcast is up from a few weeks ago, our conversation with Brandon, just if you'll search our podcast, wherever you get our podcaster, subscribe, just look for trailer, FMTalk, one of six, five outdoors trailer and listen to this because we go through from the front to the back of the trailer and everything. That's right. To check out on it. Yeah, that's one of the things too, the just the size of the trailer. I mean, he made a good point there. He said, hey, if you're just using your boat trailer, so when you go buy a package boat deal, the trailer's going to be enough for the boat as it sits. That's right. They're not lying to you. The trailer's not, but it's by the time you put everything in it and outfit the boat, it may not be. And then, but he said, listen, if you're trailering from down down the neighborhood to go put it at the launch, it may not be a big deal, but over time it can be. And he said, if you take trips like you do, go on Louisiana. He said, the number of people, and I know several people here in town, they will trailer to the keys every year, going to take their boats down there. He said, just because you have the trailer that was matched to the boat, you start doing long hauls like that with heavy, you're going to, you're going to have issues and those tires heat up tremendously on the pay. So yeah, there's, so there, I mean, there's things you need to do to maintain the trailer you have. And you may need to consider, he said, as if you're getting a new boat, talk about getting a bigger trailer, or if you're trying, it's time to retra, get it, don't just get the same size. Maybe you want to get a little bigger trailer for that. These overdo your trailer, I learned that so long ago. Well, I talked about it on that show when we had Brandon on here, I bought my, when I bought my 25 Mako, I bought a trailer for it, and it was fine, I mean, it was big enough until I filled it up with gas and put over a thousand pounds of snapper in there, you know? And other stuff, ice and all the stuff in there, well, it caved the trailer in. I mean, it turned it into a V, it really did. It collapsed, so always over by on your trailer. Yeah, it's, it's one of these things. It's not the, not the most exciting part because I mean, boats are, the boat is exciting. The engines are exciting. Like, tronics are exciting. Trailer's not exciting until you're on the south road. That says that. Yeah, so yeah. Right. You know, it's the same way with motors too. Don't under power your, your motors on your boat. I mean, if it calls for, but you know, and you're 100% right, but I bet you there will be more people out there that will walk up and look at them because we don't know to look at trailers like, you know, you walk up in a boat, you know, a new boat or used boat and you see what it's rated for and you want to make sure it's at max horsepower for that boat. We look at that and people would judge that if it's, it's not the, you know, it's not full horsepower. I don't want it, you know, it's not the maximum. At the same time, the trailer under that boat may not be really enough for it, but we don't. We don't pay attention to it. That's right. That's what I'm saying. Like the engine thing, you're right. Absolutely maxed out. But I think more people would go notice that and pay attention as we walk around this boat, not a single look down at that trailer. Absolutely. They do. But don't under power your, your boat either by motors don't under power your trailer. Well said. Or your boat. Well said. And, and while we have a minute or two here for the break, you and I were talking before we went on because you cut, Mike's got his to-do list here and he's checking stuff off on it. I mean, here it is. It's mid-season. And you're doing- You thought it was my honey-do list. I thought it was Ms. Sarah said, yeah, but it's your, it's your, you do list. Yeah. And, and the things you're doing on your engines, it's not like this is not the start of the season. This is midway through the season and you hadn't fished every day, but you're doing maintenance on it right now. Well, I've got a hundred hours on it. I was doing my hundred-hour maintenance and look, I, I like doing stuff myself. Right. I like working on my boat. I work on my boat almost every day. It's in my yard under the shed and I got fans and I work on my boat just by every day. I put all new oil in my engines, put all new lower units in, put fuel filters in, put fuel filters in the, in the builds. You know, I do all that stuff myself. I, I try to fix everything I can. If I have trouble out in that guff, I want to know how to work on it. I want to know, you know, what do I need to do to fix it? The other thing I did the other day, I, I, the first time I've ever done it, I put salt gong in my big tub that cranked my engines up and let them run and man, that did great. We were in that conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, it did great. And not only that, you know, you get a little rust on your props. Well, when I, when I took my whole lower unit and then ran the, the engines for about five minutes, when I pulled out, the rust was going on my, on my props. You know, we were talking about, and what we're talking about is, so we go flush your engines, right? You flush your engines and you think, okay, well, flush my engine. Well, you stick a hose to the side of it and run the, run the water through it. Right. Yeah. That flush my engine. Yeah. And you, that does. But there's more to it. There's more to it. Yeah. That salt con is like, there can be salt there that doesn't get removed by just putting the hose in there and flushing your engine back and running right coming right back. For a Pentham Talk 106.5 outdoors, as asked for on the text line by a couple of people, we are going to talk some throw and mow, getting ready. If you're going to try to not put a disc in the ground this year, we'll talk about some of the techniques I'm using and Mike's use as well. Yeah. We'll do that. We come back. All right, welcome back FM Talk 106.5 outdoors, Sean Sullivan, Mike Warren trying to have you all along. And yes. So, and you also told me, like, you got me scared now about this battery issue. You got to check your batteries. Yeah, you got to check everything. I'm telling you, I don't know how people do it. I'm not talking about a dead battery. Mike's talking about a battery that was getting hot. Yeah. Well, the week before the rodeo, Sean, or no, the day before the rodeo, we were getting everything loaded and I walked by my console and I said, I smell something burning. And we got down to console and boy, I had a battery that was smoking hot, you know. So I'm thinking, well, the battery went bad. Everything else looked okay and then we put another battery in and when we was hooking up the cable, one of the wires sparked a little bit and I had all the battery switches turned off. Well, here it is the night before we leaving to go to rodeo, you know, I'm thinking, well, I guess we'll be okay. So I took another battery in and the way we went and we finished the rodeo and when I got back, you know, I didn't really think about it for a few days after I got back. And then I cleaned everything out of console or I'd get down to the batteries and it was smoking hot again. So that's scary. Yeah, it is scary. I mean, no telling what could have happened. It had borrowed all the water out of both those batteries and anyway, come find out what had happened. My number two live well pump, I guess the wire, I haven't fixed it yet. I just found it the other day, but my live well wire from the console back to the number two pump undolly has corroded or shorted out. That wire, something has been there as long as my boat, my boat is, you know, what, 18 years old, whatever it is. And it's probably rusted and getting a little short in there and caused that. But anyway, I took the wire off and everything's good now. The battery's not getting hot, everything's good, but that could have caused a really devastating thing. You never know what that, I mean, it could have exploded that battery. I don't want to talk about some boat wiring out there because I don't want to lose my patience or my temper here on the show, so I fight to war on mine. Nothing's getting hot and dangerous. It's just like, why is there not power on this wire? I want to address this here, and Captain Wayne Miller is going to join us here to talk some bass fishing here in August later on in the show, but I want to take a second here because I got a couple of people who texted in about when we're going to talk about throwing mo again. Yeah. And it takes more than a second to explain it. That's right. And we'll do some more in-depth shows as we get, you know, closer into planting season, you know, I mean, later this month of August into September and talk about it. But right now, there are some things that you could do right now, and I have done in this last week to get ready and throw in most people have probably heard the term. There's a lot of different, there's fancy ways to do it with grain drills and all that. I do the every man's version of it, and I use two things, I use glyphosate and bush hog. Right. Right. And seed and fertilizer. But I mean, it's what we're talking about, if you hadn't heard it, it's just, I'm not disking, and I had a lot of, you know, by place, I have a lot of soils that are poor. They're sandy soils. So you, you discomb for a few years in a row and you've just lost all your top soil, you know? And they can be good. I've always told people if you get a judge whether it could be good or not, walk off in the woods off your green patch and pull back this pine straw and leaves and look at that dirt right there in the first couple of, it's black or brown. It's good. And then you walk, dark, dark soil, you know, you walk out in your green patch, you've been disking for the last 20, hundreds of seasons, you're like, oh man, Sam. Yeah. Yeah. So what, what I've been doing with it is letting mother nature take its course of building top soil and not disking. So it's a system where you, you spray and then what I'm about to tell you is going to come into effect. What you're doing now will make it easier later on the year when you, you spray it with ground up glyphosate and you kill it. Yeah. So you come in through and you kill all the grasses and weeds you've grown in that field. And then once that's dead, I seed and fertilize into the standing dead grass and then I come back through with a bush hog and bow it low. And that process. It's your bush hog and nail. Yeah. That's what I'm going to get to. But I'm saying, but I'm going to explain why bush hog now. But yeah, the final process is you spray it and, you know, it depends on where you are. Some places, you know, you might be spraying as early as August this month, but I usually, because we plant later, I'll spray in late September or something like that. But what you're doing is just spraying long enough to kill all the grass in the weeds in the field so they dry up. So when you go through with your spreader that the fertilizer in the seed gets thrown into that dead grass and then the process of mowing does two things. It makes like a, you know, a fan effect in there where it shakes all the seed and fertilize her down to the ground level and you lay all that grass on top of it, which traps moisture in and lets those seeds come out. Greenhouse effect. Yeah. What we're doing right now is because if you have, and it's really good, I should have taken the picture of one of those fields the other day, my throw in my fields are growing so high that I don't have a sprayer that's high enough up to spray it. So I mean, because you get a figure, if you're spraying off an ATV or even off a PTO and a tractor, what you got, your spraying boom, it's going to be two feet to three off the ground. Right. So if you have a bunch of grasses and stuff that are four feet off the ground, five feet off the ground, you're not going to get an even spray when you're applying the glyphosate. Right. So the reason I've been mowing here this last week is to set back that grass height to the point I'm like, okay, I'm mowing now right here at the end of July, beginning of August, knowing it's going to grow back, but by the time it's time for me to spray, it's not going to be too high for me to spray. Right. It's not going to be six foot tall. Right. So that's why that's why I do this. You would like ideally for it to be about two foot for the half. Yeah. So it would be just about right. So when you kill the grass, you know, it's going to thin it out a bunch. It does. Yeah. People hadn't paid attention. But those of us spray a bunch of this understand, it doesn't just kill the grass. You could take like a thick, matte of grass and spray glyphosate on it. And when you come back, not only is it grass dead, you now could see dirt underneath. That's all shrinks up. It shrinks up and thins out. That's right. So you need that. Two foot, two and a half foot. It'd be perfect. Right. So if you had a place and early on in some of these fields that I was converting from conventional tillage, right? That I was discounting. I still diss some fields. It's kind of depends on what it needs. But the fields, these fields that are now getting so tall, I have to mow them here in July, August, get them ready. Used to not grow weeds high enough that I would have to boom before them. Yeah. You wouldn't have to do much anything. That's right. That's right. Right. And some places wouldn't be enough grass to cover up the seed. Right. Yeah. So, and now I'm dealing with those fields that were like that, that now I have to go give them a little trim. If I could get, and the problem is, you know, I can only regulate the bush hog, the rotary mower's height so much. Right. If I could have a mower that would mow like it, two feet or a foot and a half, I would love it. But that, you know, that's right. It won't work. But so what I'm doing is so I'm trying to go, okay, it's August, September, I'll probably get, you know, another six or seven weeks of growth. Okay. If I cut it now, it'll be, because I want that grass when I come back and mow it because that gives me the greenhouse over the top of it. So I am just kind of, I'm leading, I'm just getting in front of it and mowing these things so they'll be easy to spray, but they'll have time to grow enough grass to spray. This is the time to do that. You need to go mow your fields. Yeah. So I mean, get them down. Yeah. And just once again, and don't, I mean, I raise it up as high as I can right now. Yeah. I raise that bush, the rotary mower's as high as I can. I'm running as high as I can, which is still, you know, still leaves, I got to grow some more grass before I spray it, but, you know, I got in Rainy Mobile, Alabama, six weeks, you know, it'll grow back. Well, I put my place, I'm gonna cut mine down pretty low because mine's gonna grow back pretty fast. Yeah. Yeah. You got that black belt soil. That's right. So yeah, that's just the thing. If you're going to do, and we'll talk about more of the techniques for throwing low on further shows, but if you say, okay, this is the year that you're doing it or as a hunting camp, you're all going to do it. Just something to do. You know those fields. Go in there and if you lose, you know, if you can lose a grown man, if he can walk 10 yards away from you and you lose him in the ticket, it's probably too high. Yeah. You probably need to, you need to cut that down. Of course now, the worry is, and I get it before you send the text messages, I absolutely get it. You're going to say, Sean, why are you doing that? You're blowing these fields, that's falling cover, you know, they're dropping fawns right now. And it's a thing. It's a thing. And one of the things that actually, for me, is why late July and August is the time I do it because really the majority of my fawns aren't falling. I wish they were, but there's going to be later in the month of August that they put fawns down. But like anywhere, you know, I've looked at pictures from my place before, I'll have fawns. It's like a bell curve. And that's the way the breeding season goes. I'll have fawns that are dropping real early and heck, fawns are dropping October or something. So there's a, but so a thing I do, I mean, for lack of a better technique, if I'm running through there, I always run just like if I was in the woods, I didn't know what was underneath where I was cutting. I'll put the loader down and let it just skim the surface and I'll put the loader down. So it pushes a grass down in front of me just enough that I could see if there was a fawn or something there wrong. And that's been good. But yeah, that's, if your grass hadn't grown, won't grow high enough to give you a problem spraying it come September, they don't worry about it. But if you're just going to be in a pickle, if you have a grass that's too high and you're trying to go through and spray it. That's right. And do the mow and grow. Yeah. Throw in both. Throw in both. Yeah. And at that point too, seriously, y'all, I mean, it's, it does, it takes a step out. It takes, it takes the disking step out. You're coming in there, you know, once you've done this and you've got a field that you're going to do this for September, you know, October, whenever you're planting, you're going to come in there, spray that field and the, you know, plan back. Okay. Well, we want to plant such and such weekend. Well, you know, glyphosate doesn't kill everything the second it hits it. Right. So, you know, back out, is it a week, you know, or are you going to come back in two weeks? That's fine. Two weeks is probably about to be asked. You spray it and then say, okay, because we're going to plant on, you know, hunting campals, say we're going to, first week in October, whatever, okay, then back up two weeks and go spray it before that. Yeah. And then you'll come in there and then at that point, all you're doing is coming in with your hopper, your seed and fertilizer hopper, you're spreading the same seed and fertilizer you would in the field. If you're doing it conventional, you spread that, but you didn't disc. You spread it. I won't do that because I'm going to wait till I know I'm going to have some rain coming before. Yeah. I'm talking about people because I'm putting seeds on the ground. I'm not putting it in underground. Right. I'm putting it on top of the ground. Yeah. You want a rain coming. So I want to make fertilizer. Yeah. So I want to make sure I've got some rain coming before I do that. Well said. And the same thing is true. I'm fertilizer. Every guy I could probably look it up online, like every day that fertilizers on the ground explosive sun, it reduces by some percentage rise of its viability. But we will talk. So this is just a start to it. We will revisit throwing mo through the next couple of weeks because we've had questions already about it. All right. Captain Wayne Miller, let's go bass fishing. And we come back on FM Talk 165 Outdoors. All right, we're welcome back FM Talk 165 Outdoors. Sean Sullivan, Mike Ward, glad to have you all along. Before we get to our next game. What a guest, a perennial favorite here and actually this makes sense because the same waters that he'll be bass fishing in our part of gator season. So gator season getting started here this next week next Thursday. Yeah. So it knows different to the different zones, but let's just because most of them are the same and then there's like them. You follow zone and stuff that's a little different, but here Southwest management zone. So that's the Delta North of I-10 that get started always second Thursday in August. Yeah. So be starting. Second or the first. No, it's second Thursday in August. And then let's see that it's so it goes, you know, it goes Thursday. It says Thursday night. So it's but it's midnight, right? And then it goes through Sunday and then the next week it does the same thing and same thing for the coastal zone, which is South I-10. And then there, but we go through it. I think the rest of it's the same except for like the Southeast zone and you follow it and all that. But down here. But those folks know they've gotten their tags and they're ready to go and they're going to be out. And I, Katmaine Miller is joining us now. Katmaine, do you ever worry that when gator seasons going on that they're out harassing the bass all night while they're trying to catch those gators and make it hard for you the next day? Have you been worried about that? No, I don't pay much attention to them. Okay, just check. I just wanted to check. Just wanted to see if I could start some drama out there. But I would think that Wayne would be the person that they'd want to talk to because I would think Wayne sees lots of gators out there and knows where some big ones are. I see a lot of gators, but I don't like to disclose where I see them because if I tell one person, then I got to tell that body. We've got an abundance of gators. Now, the trick there is, and I know what a lot of people are looking for, but there's obviously some that you know that are just much larger than the other ones. Yeah, just alligators ain't what they're hunting big ones. If you did hunt alligators, that's not a challenge of the delta. No, that's for sure. Do you see neutral there anymore? Mike, it's been so long since I've seen a nature man I made, and I know you can remember and you can be showing them when man and nature, you thought they were going to take over the world. You know what happened? Yeah, alligators. Alligators. That's right. Alligator population recovered. Yeah. Right. With the protection, that recovered. That did a world for, I mean, I watched it from starting duck hunting in the 1980s in the delta, when nutrient were everywhere, and gators weren't everywhere to, you know, starting to get in through the 90s into 2000s or way more gators and way less nutrient. Yeah, I mean, it used to be, I mean, you'd be running in to go hunting in the morning and big baddie, little baddie chock a lot of the nutrient, you know, cruising down right in front of your boat, right and left. Our dogs got in fights with them, got torn up, not, you know, it's not a thing anymore. Not saying there's nothing there, but it's nothing like it used to be. It used to be. Yeah. I don't know the last time I saw one. So now do you for snapper and sharks? Possibly. Possibly. Yeah. Possibly. Thin amount, you think. Captain Wayne, this time of year, let's approach this, the, you pay attention to the stuff. What is the water temperature right now? Like in the delta? Maybe not up the river. It's like, what's the general water temperature we're dealing with right now in some of the bigger creeps I've been seeing during the middle of the day, seeing water temperatures exceed 93 degrees. Who are you? Oh my God. You'll typically have a little bit cooler water out in the river just because you've got some current out there. But I mean, the water is just, it is extremely high. So, you know, the, but the good news is, you know, like right now, we're in the middle of just a great time cycle, man. I mean, you know, we've got, we've got a big, you know, incoming tide in the morning. But, you know, about midday, that water turns around and for the entire afternoon, it is below it. I'm talking about, we're looking at, you know, a two, two and a half foot swing right now. So, you know, this is really some good water movement, which helps tremendously cause, you know, these hot, you know, hot conditions, you know, I mean, it just, that current, it brings fish a lot, you know, I mean, it just moves bait around. But, you know, that food chain is not going to stop just cause it got high. That's right. So now, are you fishing in the morning with the incoming tide? Are you fishing in the afternoon? Yeah, Mike, you know, it's been pretty good because, you know, kind of the way we've got the, the tide setting up right now, the water is actually pretty low, first thing in the morning. So, I love that. You know, you know, we've got a incoming tide, so, you know, I like to get out there and fish. But, scenario where really, you know, you've only got kind of a slow or non, you know, movement on the water around the middle of the day, and by the end, you're begging for, you know. Yeah. For some. For some. Shave. Some break. Yeah. Anyways. So, it's a great time that right now the conditions are such that it's good to go early or late. Right. And I would strongly suggest you really consider going in the middle of the day because even for people like myself that are acclimated being out in it, you can get too hot so quick. It is, I may have dangers, you know, when you start getting these heat indexes up into the one 10, 1/15, you know, I mean, people that are, that are used to being out in it can succumb to it. So, you know, you really need to give some thought about, you know, when you're going, make sure you're hydrated, you know, where the right clothing, you know, just be careful. And you know, I always tell people, you know, you've always got one option, and that's to jump in that water man, pull off a little bit, get your core temperature down and then crank that big motor up. But that's right, yeah, put that big buck bow on high, 70 miles an hour. I have done that many times, you know, and people at Bassfish, they fish all day. I mean, they don't take breaks, they can start daylight and, you know, it's almost dark and they're still fishing non-stop. I mean, they're conditioned to it. I know I was when I was fishing the terms years ago, shoot it. The only bait we took was exactly what you said, jumping the water for a minute and get cooled off and get back and get to chunking again. Yeah, yeah, but, you know, one good thing, I mean, we've got some excellent, you know, selection of, you know, the clothing and hats and sunscreen and, you know, we know a lot more about trying to stay hydrated now. Absolutely. I mean, I feel like we're much better educated to deal with those type conditions than we were, say, even 20 years ago. I agree with you a hundred percent. Things are especially the clothing, you know, we just saw, we wore cotton stuff back then. Everything was cotton and, man, you just burn up in it. No, yeah, but, you know, right now, you know, what I've been seeing is, you know, on up in the day, you know, I've been doing really good, you know, getting off on little people, water, with soft plastic, with Texas rig, and then, you know, what I've been targeting in the afternoon, I've been primarily staying on the bank rivers, but, you know, I like to find wood that, you know, extends out into deep water, and with that water falling in the afternoon, you know, the lower it gets, the better it typically gets, because it'll congregate those fish out toward the end of that structure. Right. You know, you can target them there with crankbaits, and really, I've had a lot of luck here the last week, even with this extreme temperatures, with a buzz bait. I mean, the top water bait's actually been pretty good. Isn't that amazing? You wouldn't think about that this time of year with the water being hot, and it's just hot period sun beaming down, you wouldn't think that a buzz bait would be that good, and listen, some of the ponds I fish in up the country, it's that way, in the summer time. You never dream you'd catch them on a buzz bait, so it's something to that. Well, you know, and there again, you know, it's amazing when you think about, you know, and we don't have a lot of it here on the belt, but, you know, we do have some schooling opportunities where we catch fish schooling, and this time of year is when that typically happens out on the main rivers around point, some of the bridges and stuff like that, and man, they will get active right in the middle of the day. I mean, it's just, you know, it's the opposite of what you would think it would be. Showing themselves just breaking the top of the water, or do birds get on them like they do when it's trout, or what gives away that schooling? You know, it's just them, you know, busting on top. You know, I, this time of year, when you see birds out there, that typically going to be around like Jack Cravall, and we've already, I mean, we've already got Jack Cravall up in the rivers right in the forest, yeah, I don't know, don't say that, we ain't like sketching them. Oh gosh, they're brewing a bass fishing trip, I know they're fun to catch one, there's a one, and no more. Well, what you always need to keep in mind with the Jacks, and I tell people this, when they start getting up in here, if you had any information that you're going to be goofy enough to cast one of them, make sure you've got a lot of real on the deck with a sacrificial bait. Yeah. A bait that you absolutely don't care about, because there's a high probability with bass gear, you're probably not going to get it back, and even if you do, that's going to look like something you don't recognize. Yeah, that's a fact, that is, that is for sure. And I tell you, well, let me ask before we go to the break, got 30 seconds here. You catching any other saltwater species, any trout showing up, redfish, founder? You know, I hadn't called any trout, but man, the redfish have just been everywhere. And, you know, I don't know if y'all have heard or not, I've been catching tremendous numbers primarily because this time of year after, there's a lot of textures here, but man, the flounder that's just been off the chain. Man, I'd love to hear that coming up. People have been catching flounder in the Mobile River this, like, crazy. Okay, well, we're going to come back and pick that up when we return more with Captain Wayne Miller right here on FM Talk 1065 Outdoors. All right, welcome back, FM Talk 1065 Outdoors, quick reminder as well. Coming up next month, time flies, 13th, 14th and 15th. It is the G&D Farms Outdoor Expo at the Grounds, the out there doing midday mobile on Friday and then on Saturday, a special FM Talk 1065 Outdoors from the Grounds at the G&D Outdoor Expo. Check them out online. If you go to Facebook, they're G&D Farms, that's one Facebook page, but you want to go to G&D Farms Outdoor Expo and get that Facebook page. Yeah, I got one quick announcement too. Next week is going to be the Gufcoast King Classic out of Kokodry, Louisiana. It's a new King Michael tournament. We're getting started. Mike Spellmeyer is putting it on and we've got several of us on the board of directors with him and Mark Kennedy and several more. Anyway, we're trying to make this into another big King Michael event. So anybody that might... Okay, go online, what did you do? Yeah, go online, go to Fish and Chaos and it's on there. Okay. It's the name of it again. It is the Gufcoast King Classic and the first tournament is going to be out of Kokodry. They're going to be out of Dauphin Island and other places next year too, but the first one this year is going to be out of Kokodry, Louisiana. Looking forward to it. It's going to be a great time. All right. Good stuff. Much of the old gang getting back together. Oh, gosh. Beware King Mackerel, beware. Here they come. Haha. I continue our conversation with Captain Wayne Miller who has told us that the bass, even though the water is 216 degrees out there and the delta, the bass are still biting out there. Captain Wayne, you also mentioned before we went to the break, you said if you could just get through the flounder, you might catch even more bass, right? Haha. You're killing me, you're killing me, Miller. You're killing me. Haha. Well, I tell you, man, you put on a Texas ring, you know, and I typically use a quarter ounce tungsten weight, but any time you start bouncing from plastic around down there on that delta, man, you're going to catch a flounder and this year it's just been really a phenomenal year for them. Now what's this? We could go back through all the, you know, all our interviews over the years with Captain Wayne Miller. What color on that soft plastic are you throwing at this flounder, right? Haha. I can't believe it or not, watermelon, short, tree. Watermelon. You got to be kidding me, you're fishing a new color on watermelon. So if y'all need any other reason to buy watermelon, short, tree is the fact that this man who fishes more days on the delta than anybody I know, that's what you throw. But Wayne, how do you tell if the flounder bite or the crab bite, because I know the crabs are going to be eating you up over there? You know, you get in stretches and you know, the crabs won't be bad at all, but you know, when you feel one pulling it down, it just feels like it's getting heavy. You know you got a crab and a lot of times you just, you got to get away from them because you know, they'll be in one area and they'll eat all the plastic you give them, I can tell you that. When you finish up the show, I need to know those places too, so I've got the old chicken on a string and I won't go get some of that, I'll help get the crabs out there for you, how about that? Yeah, man. I'm saying to him, we used to do that, that's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun. It's a good way to catch, you know, catch some dinner, for sure. And this is the time of year to go do it if you want to do it right now. And you can help Cat and Wayne keep those crabs away from his bass lures, you know, 'cause I mean that watermelon chartreuse ain't cheap, man. Yeah, I always, always told people I really believe in some of these other plastic manufacturers, they come down here and do something to proliferate this crab, these crabs, so I think they've got something to do with it ultimately. So, but the flounder, I mean these are places you're bass fishing, I mean this is not like, you know, you would think, okay, well he's going to be in super deep water or something like that to catch these fonder, but I mean these are places you're bass fishing. Oh yeah, I mean there's, I'm catching a lot of them, and a lot of them I am catching, you know, they're around, you know that first good drop off some of these flats on the off the bank. Three, four. But you know, they're relatively shallow, I'm talking about, you know, five to eight feet of water. You're not in like, because I mean people would think, oh, he's in 20 something feet of water on a band or 25, but it's not. Oh, no, no, nothing like that. Okay. And what, imagine what we could do with the bull meadow. Woo! Can't you make most of them on the river? Oh yeah, yeah, most of them are, but, but you know, as I go up, you know, as I work my way of these creeks and all that catching them in there too, it's, you know, I've gotten to the point to where it literally does not surprise me to catch a flounder or a rent fish anywhere on this delta. That's a testament too, because I mean, we've talked about that a hundred times. Growing up on that delta, I had places, I could go catch redfish, but it was just a few places saying that you could catch them everywhere. It was not that way in the 80s and 90s. That's fine. It was really the redfish and the delta is the best I've ever seen it. I mean, I'm sure maybe there's some old old-timer knows better, but for me, it's the best now. Let me ask you this one, what about the size of the flounder? That's important too. I mean, are they a little flounder or are they medium or big ones? Well, a lot of them are big, Mike, yeah, but you know, one thing, one thing that's kind of amazing to me, and I see this a lot now, a lot more so than I used to, and I see it both with the flounder and with redfish, of course, I'm on the water a tremendous amount, but one reason I think the numbers that are so impressive and gotten, you know, I mean, it's just really phenomenal. It's the fact that you catch a wide range from the standpoint of size. I mean, years ago, I don't know what you all remember, but typically, if you caught a redfish, it'd be a big monster range every night and you'd run into one. Well, now you catch, you know, the big ones, but you also catch, you know, a lot of us are five to eight pound, and then you catch a lot of the rat red, you know what I mean? And I kind of see the same thing with the flounder, and it's just amazing to me because it just gives me an indication of the sheer numbers that there has to be. That's for sure. It's a good thing, and you got us fired up to catch bass and flounder. Tell folks they want to get tripped booked with you to do that, fishing this time of the year, or oh my gosh, y'all, if y'all have never seen anything like it, if you fall fish, bass, what's happening, how do they get a trip booked with you? They can reach me at two five one four. At your phone faded out for a second. Your phone can you give that number again? I said two five one five four four zero four. All right, Captain Wayne, we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week. Thank you, Wayne. Okay, guys. That's a great one. You too. There goes Captain Wayne, and we'll be back for VFM talk 4065 outdoors. You can always catch us on the podcast page. Bye. Bye. Bye. in the next one. [BLANK_AUDIO]