Bio
Jeffrey Zeldman is partly responsible for how you do your job, if you work on the web. You should say “thanks”. Or “curse you”. Depending on how you feel about working on the web.  Check out his site which has been around since 1995. https://zeldman.com/about/

Also: “I sobered up the same time New York did” is the first line in the novel Jeffrey should write. Right? Who’s with me!

Summary
In this conversation, Jeffrey Zeldman and Matthew discuss a range of topics including the treatment of military veterans, the impact of news on mental health, personal boundaries in social situations, experiences with travel and events, health and safety protocols, the importance of codes of conduct in communities, the challenges of writing and personal narratives, and the process of collaborative storytelling. They reflect on their own experiences and the complexities of navigating social interactions in a post-pandemic world.

Takeaways
Technology can create unexpected family dynamics.
Nostalgia plays a significant role in our attachment to devices.
Communication styles vary based on audience and context.
Honesty in conversations can sometimes lead to misunderstandings.
Writing for different audiences requires adaptability.
The emotional impact of current events is profound.
There is a need for new perspectives in UX research.
Writing a book on UX can be a daunting task.
Political discourse often reveals shared human experiences.
Understanding different viewpoints is crucial in today's society. 
The treatment of military veterans is a critical issue.
Avoiding news can help manage emotional overload.
Social interactions can be overwhelming for some individuals.
Travel experiences can be both exciting and exhausting.
Health and safety protocols are essential in social settings.
Codes of conduct help create safer community environments.
Writing personal narratives can be challenging due to privacy concerns.
Self-doubt can hinder creative expression.
Collaborative storytelling can enhance character development.
Personal experiences shape our perspectives on various topics.

Chapters
00:00 Quick N' Cold Open
02:02 Welcome to Two Old Dudes With ADHD. Likely.

Keywords
technology, communication, writing, UX research, personal conversations, honesty, emotions, politics, nostalgia, family dynamics, military, veterans, news, emotional health, social interactions, travel, health safety, code of conduct, writing, creativity