Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast
Wednesday July 3rd, 2024 - FULL SHOW
Now today's episode is sponsored by NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. NerdWallet's experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights. No financial misinformation allowed. Learn how to save on your summer vacation. Find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast app. You don't just live in your home. You live in your neighborhood as well. So when you're shopping for a home, you want to know as much about the area around it as possible. Luckily, Homes.com has got you covered. Each listing features a comprehensive neighborhood guide from local experts. Everything you'd ever want to know about a neighborhood, including the number of homes for sale, transportation, local amenities, cultural attractions, unique qualities, and even things like median lot size and a noise score. Homes.com. We've done your homework. Hey, fantasy football fans. Do you want to be the owner who was doing a crime session the night before the draft? I didn't think so. You need to start your prep now. This is Faraz from Upper Hand Fantasy. Zach and I are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to bust. We've got you covered and give it the upper hand on your friends. Today is the day to start getting ready for the draft. So join us and stay ahead of the competition. Follow and listen to Upper Hand Fantasy on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, welcome in everybody. Ben and Woods 97 3 the fans get our heads right on a Wednesday. That's really a Friday. If we're being completely upfront and honest with you guys, it's our Friday today. So I'm going to tell you right now. We've all got a little bit of vacation brain, which is fine, which is fine. It's to be expected. You do too. Just because you don't do this for a living doesn't make you any better than us. I mean, we we suffer from it as well. I know I'm I'm halfway out the door as we speak. But in, you know, listen, really exciting game to talk about last night is that really that really pumped my nads to get out of bed and come in and talk about a two hit shutout by the Texas Rangers. So yeah, you can you can see our reluctance this morning. But now we're going to we're going to do our very best to deliver you some laughs and some honest opinions like we always do. I'm Woodsie. That's Paul Rinder. He's the executive producer. Good morning, Paulie. Hey, how are you? Fantastic. Benjamin Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor. Benjamin, how are you? Good morning. A special hello to everybody heading out on the roadways or heading to the airport. Yes. They say biggest travel week, perhaps like records setting this week with people heading out on vacation using that, you know, not technically four day weekend, but let's be honest, four day weekend for a lot of people as a chance to kind of extend their summer vacation. So they say airport's going to be as busy as it's been record setting days to start and end the week. So if you're out there, be patient, be kind, a lot of people hitting the roads and hitting the airports and, you know, heading off on summer vacation. I'm hitting the La Jolla Playhouse today at two p.m. For a little culture, the Mrs. and I can go get a little culture in a matinee performance and going to that Johnny Cash show. I heard about that the ballad of Johnny and June. And my father-in-law got it for me. Now, here's the thing about you. We've talked a lot on this show about, hey, planning stuff and having things planned. You guys know generally how I feel about it, right? Like I get a little bit like, oh, oh, okay. So he sends me this beautiful text message for Father's Day. And he's just the greatest guy. And he goes, I know you don't like stuff being planned for you. We can move the date if you want to. But I got you tickets. You and Anna, we'll take the kids. I want you to see this. It's called the ballad of Johnny and June. And I swear to God, there's if this was, hey, it's fiddler on the roof, I would have been like, God, come on, please give them away. I don't want to go see fiddler on the roof. I don't, I don't want to see anything else. But because it's, it's the ballad of Johnny and June, I thought, all right, I bet you I enjoy this very much. I checked the runtime yesterday because I, I have to know these things. We talked last week about people that check the set lists. I have to know what I'm walking into. I just, how I'm wired. Some people don't. Whoa, my light just fell down. Um, it's sometimes it's just how it's wired, how people are wired. I'm wired to want to know exactly what to expect. So two hour and 15 minute runtime, which isn't bad. You go an hour with an intermission, then you go you an hour intermission for 15 minutes, you know, grab a soda pop or whatever. It's Johnny Cash, maybe an amphetamine. And then from there, you go and do the last hour and you're good to go. So I'm, I'm actually, I, I was kind of dreading it. Now I'm kind of excited. We're going to make a day of it and, and you know, no kids. So it's going to walk the line. Really good movie. I imagine this is kind of a stage version of something similar. The, the funny thing is, is yesterday, Bo and I were home and I put on, we watched a movie. Do you remember the movie, Benny? You probably do. Summer school with Mark Harmon. Not the one with, um, Kirsty Ali's in it. Well, what am I thinking about the one with Rodney Dangerfield? That is back to school. Back to school. Summer school was Mark Harmon and he takes these degenerate kids that failed their, he's got to teach them remedial English. They got to pass this big test. You don't remember this? It was a huge hit in our youth. Huge, huge. Pauli, have you ever even heard of summer school? Do you know Mark Harmon is? Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. He was on CSI. Yes. Right. So Bo and I watched that. He loved it, thought it was great and said, I don't ever want to go to summer school. And I said, well, you know, study and you won't have to. Your old man had to do it a bunch in college. So we watched that and then I flipped over and there's a Johnny Cash documentary on that I'd never seen and I ended up watching most of that. So good timing. It's got me in the mood to go see this. It's gonna spend the afternoon at the theater. I feel very fancy. Very. Sounds like a good time. I know. I'm excited. Very fancy. Mark Harmon, by the way, former starting quarterback at UCLA. Yes, he was. Bring everything back to sports like I tend to do. That's where he uh, that's where he got his beginning. So yeah, he's uh, he's uh, what do they call it? Silver Fox? Yeah, he's sharp. As they like to say, yeah, don't don't worry. You're fine. We can see you. There's light in here. Just just wait until the break to try to fix your light. You're doing it wrong. It's, Pauli says you're doing it wrong. Perfect. He thinks he's doing it right. I don't know why it would just fall off randomly. That was, that was kind of unusual. It's all out all the time. The world's in a perfect place. Well, while you're doing that, I want to bring this up because I mentioned all the travel that's going on and I saw this tweet yesterday and people were going to go on crazy. I think it was actually from Instagram. It said someone said traveling with a baby needs to have additional charges and approval from a doctor that the baby won't cry. If the baby cries, then penalties and charges need to be applied to the parent or family for the inconvenience they caused others who don't have babies. What do you, what do you feel about traveling with very young infants on airplanes? You know, look, I've said this many, many times. If we could stop our children from crying, we will it. Of course we will. We absolutely would. We know the inconvenience that it causes. We feel it is deeply and bad. You know, we in more than you, more than your inconvenience, what a parent goes through physically, physically and not just mentally, physically on a plane when your kid is screaming. It's a physical pain that you feel and it's not really, oh, my child might be in pain. It's everyone around me wants to kill me. And there's a, there's a visceral reaction you have. But the thing is, man, it's also the year 2024. I've got these noise canceling earbuds. I can't hear an effing thing. Nothing. If I put these things on, my house could burn down around me. And I wouldn't know. I wouldn't hear the screams. Maybe you take your earplugs out and then you'll know that your baby's crying. But I, you know your baby's crying. I'm talking to the people on the plane. Put these in. I'm sure I'm curious to get Pauli's perspective on this. You know, Pauli, who like many people nowadays, not, you don't have children, which is more common than it used to be. We, of course, are parents. And obviously we've traveled with our children. And there's always going to be at some point a bad moment. So I have empathy for people who are traveling with their kids and they're not being good. They're crying. And there's not much you can do about it. As you said, Woods, it can be panicky. But I also see the perspective of like, if you were making around a trip and you paid a ton of money for a flight and you're going on vacation, you want to have a good time, the last thing you feel like you should endure is someone who's sitting like right next to you across the aisle and the baby is screaming on a four hour flight for wherever you're going. It's like, this is not what I wanted to do to get away on vacation. Yeah. Do you feel like the parents are well, I don't expect them to leave their cell phone. Well, yeah. Okay. So I got that perspective. I get that if you know, I don't know what they're doing. If they're going to the Bahamas or something, like on a vacation, it doesn't matter. But like, they could be flying to go see family for a funeral. I don't know. Like, they have to bring their children. There's no, there's really no way around that. And I don't fault them for it. I don't fault them for the baby crying on the plane. Babies are going to cry. It's very annoying. It makes me like want to die. And if I'm sitting in, you know, 34A and somebody sits next to me with a newborn, my immediate reaction is, oh, God, here we go. No, so is mine. And I have, I have two kids, you know, but mine is too. But then it's like, I recognize also that the parents like nobody is more mortifying than the parents. I think I think there's a phenomenon though, where people who don't have kids look at parents and they say, kind of selfish for bringing their kids along, you know, impacting me who chose not to have kids. Like, I made that decision. But I also think that people who have kids sometimes look at people who don't have kids and like, well, that's a selfish decision. Sure. We're propagating the species and you're just, you know, enjoying your life without children. But we're, you know, trying to keep the human race going. That just comes from a place of sheer jealousy. That's, that's all that comes from. It's like, oh, you guys on a couple's trip with no kids. How much intercourse do you think you're going to have in the Bahamas? Because I promise you, I'm having none. Zero. I probably won't sleep. Bro, we're doing a staycation this weekend and at a hotel. I'm not going to get a lick of sleep or relaxing. Nothing. This isn't, it's again, it's a trip. That's all it is. It's a trip. Planes are one thing because like, like I said, you don't know why anybody's traveling. Like, that's kind of the only way to get somewhere sometimes. Yeah, right. But I think it's totally different. You can feel totally different if you're sitting at Petco Park. You go to the movies or something and then somebody sits next to you with a, with a newborn. You're like, what the hell are you doing here? That, that horse, the baby's going to cry. They're blasting, you know, music loud at Petco Park or whatever. Like of course your baby's going to cry. I shouldn't have to deal with that. No. And listen, I kind of feel the same way too when I go to Vons and I'm like, Oh, cool. You do have your golden retriever in here amongst our, our food and stuff. Like, when I walk into restaurants, I'm like, I love dogs too. But that is a massive German shepherd walking through here, you know, in this, in this restaurant. It happens everywhere. No, we've talked about it before. The lack of self awareness is what really hurts the human race. It really is. It's the, it's the, my kids cry. If you guys have ever been with me and my kids start to cry at a restaurant or anywhere, you know where I go. Right outside parking lot. Yeah. Now on a plane, you can't really, you can't, but like, I mean, bro, I will eat my meal outside at a restaurant if the kids won't sell it. But if I'm on a plane and, you know, there's a baby and the parents seem like they're doing everything they can to try to calm the child pacifier, blanking, whatever, you know, doing whatever they can. And it's just not working. I'm not going to get mad about it. I'm going to understand they're trying at least if now if they're just doing nothing and like, okay, you're just letting them cry it out. Okay, that, that will bother me even as a parent. Cody said, I saw they have hushing device for babies now. Hushing device. Yeah, they do. And yeah, we put it right next to our, so like that Hannibal Lecter man, it's like a little thing. And it just goes a muzzle. It goes so you don't have to do it yourself. Yeah. And you get it and you put it next to your kid. It's a sweet thought. It doesn't work. But you know, Beau had, Beau was colicky. He didn't sleep for six months. You guys remember? I mean, I was like, I was like, it was like, this guy's going to go off the deep end. Remember, I almost beat that guy up. That's because I hadn't slept in six months. And we had the hushing device. You couldn't do anything with him without him. Everywhere we went, I looked at Hannah and I said, this was a huge mistake. I called my mother at three AM smoking a cigarette, by the way, stopped against cigarettes at three AM. He's in the car. I'm leaning on the hood of my black flag. Call my mother. I'm moving to Mexico. Take care of my family, please. I can't do this. This was a huge, huge, huge mistake. Kill me. I mean, it was just parents who try and as hard as they can out there, man, they really, really are. Hannah says he was sleep trained at six months, settled down. All right, three months then. Yeah, it was, it was gnarly. He was so bad parents on planes. I'm not going to get mad at yet all. I know how hard it is. These things are. I don't want to get mad, like, because I've seen parents, I'm like, are you even trying to get your kid to calm down? Yeah, I mean, sometimes you're just like, bad parents. It's bad parenting. But there's also like, they've exhausted every trick in the book. I mean, every trick in the book, sometimes. And these, these, these noise canceling ones are, they're just, they're lifesavers. They should have 10, 12 pair on, on planes for people that didn't bring them and people that can't handle. I don't like the sound of a screaming baby. It gives me the worst anxiety ever, especially when it's mine. Taylor's new bit is just screaming in your face as loud as he can. And it is shrill. And it feels like it's going to break the window. When he doesn't want to do something, he just looks at you and you're like, bro, what is your problem? Sounds effective. It's very, very effective. So, yeah, we've got Hannah said, we're a family of four, we have four sound machines that we absolutely, if you walked in our house in the middle, like, here's what you do. I saw that thing you said in Over Bay. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, just get a prescription from your doctor for the non crying baby next time you go on a trip. You're not negligent if your baby cries. No, you're not. It's they're actually supposed to. I mean, empathy goes a long way. But if I'm not getting any back from the other person, it's really hard to show it as well. They do the bit too of like, hey, I'm gonna buy everybody in our section of drink. It's not going to help you. I mean, it's just right. Again, I think planes are the one where it's like, there's nothing you can really do about it. But if I sit down to a nice dinner at Rare Society or something, and I know I'm dropping three, four hundred dollars. That's a freaking baby. I know. What are you doing? I know. Why are you here? Go away. That's selfish. That ruins my experience. It is. That actually does. You're absolutely right, because those people can get up and go outside. Right. Can't do that on a plane, but you can't do that in my house. You guys know me? The slightest, like, I'm like, get your ass up. We're going outside and run out to the parking lot of bedding goods or something. Like, we're staying out here until you can calm it down. You good? You get a special treat? Okay, I'm good. All right, we'll get this back inside. Bro, I am a, I'm a wreck about it. I'm a wreck about it. So, man, that's good stuff, Benny. I like that. I like that topic a lot. And yes, Fourth of July, we'll have some Fourth of July chatter today. I'm sure Caitlin says in the chat, I'd be concerned that a child was dead if it wasn't crying. Bro, yes. But now I'm trying to think, can you picture Ben? Like, is a baby crying? I bet Ben was like the one baby that just was like, just taking it all in. Mama Higgins could probably attest to that one way or the other, but I bet he was a little bit of a crier. I don't think so. No, I mean, he's Mr. Even keel. He is Mr. Even keel, but was he baby even keel? I was definitely a crier as a child. But I don't think I was a loud crier is more of the quiet, like whimper kind of crier sort of sad. That's the sad. That's the sad. Like a little puppy. Yeah. You're so sad, bro. It's great. A little parenting this morning as we get you ready for the holiday weekend coming up. We'll set the menu for the program coming up. It is a guest heavy Wednesday. We'll let you know the lineup that we have. Just it's like a lineup. It's just one after another after another. But they're all good. So hope you guys like baseball up there. Yeah, that's probably true. But it's the good time of the year for it. It's July. It's, you know, there was some breaking news this morning from the National Basketball Association. I'll probably mention it at some point. So stick around for that. Yeah, big one. Stick around for that. We'll get to all of that. The menu coming up next. Kelly's got traffic. It is Wednesday. It's a holiday tomorrow. Let's try to have a good time here with Ben Woods on San Diego's number one sports station. 97 three the fan. Got a baseball trade this morning as well. Two items of breaking news. A 97 three the fan presented by Beck QL smarter bets. Start with Beck QL. Download the Beck QL app or visit Beck QL.com today. You only start with the baseball or the basketball medicine first go with the dessert first. Don't the basketball. It's a bigger story. I'd say it is. But it's not. It's what everyone completely expected. But the Lakers have agreed to a two year max contract extension with LeBron James who opted out of his 51.4 million dollar deal last month only to opt in to 52 million dollars over two years with another player option at the end of the year. So we can go through all of this again at the end of the season. No trade clause as well. He was making how much? 51.4. And now he's making how much 52. Okay. But the rumors that he was going to be less. Yeah. And this isn't less. Now he could have gotten a three year deal and he took a one plus one. But that doesn't really save the Lakers any cap room. They're still pushing into the second apron, which is like the NBA's version of the competitive balance tag in baseball. And it comes with more more penalties, more restrictions. Essentially, they probably not going to be able to sign anyone or add anyone. Now they missed out on all the guys that they wanted. Nobody laughed. There's really not anybody left. So I guess LeBron said, well, if no one else is going to get on, I might as well take it. I guess there's still some discussion that if he takes a million less, they'll have a little bit more flexibility under the second apron. So maybe it's not completely finalized. But that was the breaking basketball news this morning. Shocker. LeBron wants to stay and play for the team that just drafted his son last week. Who, by the way, came out yesterday and said, playing with my dad, I didn't even think about it. We're just, we're just getting gas lit repeatedly by, by sports teams. Like, look, like Mike Shilt will gaslight us from time to time. It's absolutely gaslighting. He's telling us we didn't see what we just saw, right? LeBron James, Bronnie James, Gaslit, the hell out of us. JJ Reddit gaslit us yesterday when he told us, no, no, he's earned everything. He's earned. He's earned this. Bro, he averaged four points a game and a board a game in a year. Like, okay, if that's what you really want to try to sell us, I guess you have to buy it. It's very, very odd. Bronnie was introduced yesterday and and JJ Reddit like went out of his way to go. We didn't give him anything. He earned this hard work. It's like, no, really, if his name wasn't Bronnie James Jr, he's not leaving college. No one's drafting him after half a season at USC when he scored, you know, five points a game. It's just not happening. So there's clearly a LeBron effect going on with this move. Now, so it doesn't bother me that I totally agree with you. Right. What would what's LeBron supposed to do? Not do everything he can for it to help his own child and further his career? And what's Bronnie supposed to do? He seems like actually really good kid considering the spotlight he's lived in his entire life seems pretty normal, got a pretty good head on his shoulders, understands, you know, what's going on and is dealing with it, is overcome, had a heart attack about a year ago is overcome a lot. I like a lot of you as a Lakers fan. Like you're you're the Lakers fan. This is is I mean, they weren't going to make a second round draft pick that was going to make it feel like on the court. But like, I see the LeBron news today and I go, look, that man's legacy is cement. He's got four rings. He's a top three player of all time. Bar nine arguably number one, you could make the arguments and we're not going to this case. No, no, no, no. But this guy's answering your 40. All he wants like he's doing something that literally like nobody thought would ever be done. Yeah, it's cool. Basketball, plan father and son together. Yeah, it's cool. I think it's just a good story. It's a good story. But yeah, you're not expecting Lakers make the playoffs. The gas lighting. I also want to call, I don't think Ben's much of a Laker fan anymore. I think that you're just hanging on to it. I don't see you being super passionate about the Lakers. I mean, it's nowhere near my Padres fan. Right, right. And when it's probably my still second favorite major protein. Oh, really? Well, like, there's not a lot of competition. Oh, I mean, should the seal should we just go F ourselves? Maybe like NBA NFL major league baseball NHL. Yes. I mean, I don't have an NFL team anymore. Yeah. So they're really the only thing other than the Padres that I even cut yet like get a little bit about not college. You don't have a huge college football. I mean, Aztecs basketball. Right. You see, but in pro like major pro sports in the United States. Yeah, Tony says in the chat. It's bigger like a fan than I am. A lot more. I think so too. Well, Tony is a bigger fan. And I realistically, yeah, they're not probably going to be another, you know, six, six, seven seed and likely out in the first round of the playoffs again next year, unless, you know, LeBron and 80 get hurt. And then they're going to be a complete disaster, which is always a possibility when you get a 40 year old on your team is your essential anchor. At some point, LeBron is going to give out now. He was amazing last year, 39. But at some point, he's got it. I mean, father time wins over everybody. And it's going to, it's going to run out. It's going to be ugly what it does. Those rumors are going around like, Oh, he's going to restructure. He wants to bring in some, some quality players around him. I'm thinking, I don't know, man, he's going to just do what's best for him and his family right now. The guy has given the game everything he's had for 20 years now. And I think you just have to be okay with that. Yeah, absolutely. And then the baseball trade just in this morning, a little bit of a surprise. The Milwaukee Brewers have acquired pitcher Aaron Savali from the Tampa Bay Rays in exchange for a minor legal infielder Gregory Barrios. According to sources familiar with now, Savali is not having a great season. He's got an ERA over five. But if this shows that the Tampa Bay Rays are open for business and starting to sell off players, there's going to be a lot of teams that are interested in some of the other, some of the other commodities that they have on their roster. One of those interesting teams that can deal pitching from a position of, of, of surplus, how many, how many teams are on the league? You're like, anybody need a starting pitcher? Well, it got seven. If there's ever a team that is willing to look at the market and go, yes, our chances realistically aren't great. And we're in a perfect position to sell and restock our farm system for the future. It's always going to be the Tampa Bay Rays. They love to do it. They love facing reality faster than anyone else. So they're facing the reality again. Yeah, I don't think we're catching the Yankees or the Orioles or anyone this year. So let's make the best of this market when everybody needs pitching and we've got some. Let's start trading it away for whatever we can get. Well, they'd be right there in it if they were in the national league. Yeah, they're 43 and 42. They actually have a winning record that won the last two, but they're, they're run differential Benny minus 52 runs. They're not scoring runs. And yeah, I mean, you look at it, they're fourth place in the division. They're 11 out of a, 11 out of the division and three back of the wild card. But again, I don't think trading errands, Savalle signals a white flag at all for them. You know, they're, they have a chance to improve their, their farm system. They took it. So it is, it is nice to know that they're, they're willing to deal. All right, quickly on the menu today. As I said, we got a big lineup of guests, big league Wednesday. And I mean, big league Wednesday. Not 100% sure about Adam Jones. He usually ends up showing up. If he does, we kind of have him slotted in, uh, tentatively for seven 30, but coming up at eight o'clock, it's Brett Boone, our friend and honestly insider. He's always fantastic. 835 old friend alerts, Nick Hundley. Remember Nick, former Padres catcher. He is now a current Ranger special assistant to general manager Chris Young. He's the best Padres taken on the Rangers, felt like a good chance to catch up with Nick Hundley. He's going to be on with us at 8 35. And because tomorrow's a holiday, we've moved, you know, Sarah's up for some smart baseball at nine o'clock. So boom, boom, boom, boom, lineup of guests, regular features and our seven o'clock hour. And of course, Padres wrap up of what was a fairly dismal and dull seven, nothing lost. But we'll get into it. There's one thing in the game that bothered me. Really just one, like one pitch, the one pitch that really bothered me in that game last night. We'll talk about it coming up next with better woods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97 three to fan. Before we get to our Padres wrap up, almost forgot about the incorporated from yesterday. Jesse Agler joined us. So that just 35, he almost forgot about it. He said he did. But I was actually listening in the car and he almost slipped it by me. So once came up with the word, here was the yesterday's set up for the incorporated. Well, I found this word. Okay. And I'm still looking for how to say it. So I sent it to Pauli for the pronunciation. Go ahead, Pauli. Nudious tradition. What? What's the definition? It's a good question. I'm glad you asked that question. Nudious sturgeon? Nudious sturgeon. Yeah, it's an adjective. Oh, that you're relating to the day before yesterday. The day of our yesterday. Nudious sturgeon. So it struck me later that woods are you just starting to Google search and you D and that came off is that where that the inspiration was? Yes. When I want to enjoy some adult entertainment, I just go to nude. I just put in nude in the Google. So I actually was I was in the car, the eighth inning listening. And I usually I get the sense like with Jesse that, Oh, I hear it comes. He's trying to get to something. No, no, he he got it so fast. I almost missed it. Like, wait, did he just incorporate? And I I mean, Tony didn't say anything. I barely noticed it. This was just as casual as casual can be in the eighth inning yesterday. One pitch in the air straight away right field, Johnson is back and in front of the warning track. He has room to make the catch one away. The Rangers kind of a continuation of their new to Starian game on Sunday night in Baltimore. That was their best offensive output since May 8th. And they have come back with another big night at the dish here tonight. Yeah, just the day before yesterday, they're just continuing on with big all the pronunciation. Yeah, I think he's in the discussion in the distortion, but the absolute the usage was spot on 100% and no one blinked an eye. I barely blinked an eye and I knew that that was the Incorporated word. And I'm like, okay, I get it. I see where he's going there. So next week we can do nudge because that's also NUD. I'm just looking up nude words nude sticks are a type of brand of shoe. All right. Yeah, nude. Not a lot of nude words. All right. There was one. I really honestly, Mike shilt over tips his cap to the opponent. We know this. We got another one. Yesterday actually was probably an appropriate time to tip your cap to the opponent. But there was one thing that bothered me one pitch bothered me about the game yesterday. We'll get to it in our Padres wrap up right after traffic here on 97 3 the fan. It's a shame if they lose. Oh, a shame indeed. It's a complete crap. I did not like that. Here are the lowlights from yesterday's game. Are you kidding me? Boo. It's the Padres wrap up presented by Hummel Casino with thrilling slots and tables in all the best rewards. Hummel Casino has all the fun you're looking for. Hummel Casino fun above all else. We'll give it 16 minutes of salt and then we'll, you know, get back on the pump and figure it out. It's not your fault. Do it to the pitch and the change up in the air to right field, throw it away and deep Johnson is back. He's looking up. It's going to go home run on the Efas change and Nathaniel Low made him pay for it. A two run shot at the bottom of the first inning. Again, still in the 01 pitch swung on here in the air to right center field. Long run, Jackson Merrill deep into the gap looks up. It's off the wall right by the 410 marker. Time will easily come into store a long RBI double for Laodie Tavares and the Rangers lead it reading nothing here in the second. Not running and the 3-1 pitch hit in the air to straightaway left field in deep profile is going back. Still going back. He's at the wall. This one going to go second of the night for Nathaniel Low. After right field in the first inning out to left here in the third and a five nothing Ranger leave against a drawn in infield swings. It's in the air to shallow left. Broke far charging in on the run. Not going to be able to get there. Drops down and a base hit. Blue RBI single for Simeon to snap in 0 for 18 and the Ranger lead is now six and up. There's a line driving the left field. That's to the bounce on the wall. All the way to the wall. Tavares racing around thirties and a coming in store easily another double for the Rangers. This one for Nellis and it's 7 and up in here in the second. We end two in the shot of the pitch from Evaldi is swung on and missed right three. Came with a splitter and got him the sixth strike out of the night and now 13 in a row retired by the Ranger right here is the one pitch. There's are your grounds into third base pack candidate or Ellis longfield across the diamond is in time. One two three nine for Hernandez and the ball game is over Rangers when they're second straight. They matched here tonight. They also got seven it's sparkling in it from Nathan Evaldi who allowed one hit without walking the batter in his start here tonight. Why don't score again Texas seven in the Padres nothing. Yeah, no, I mean, sometimes you got to tip your hat. I mean, the guy was really good tonight. We did hit some balls hard. No one ever liked to hear that when you don't score. But, you know, we squared up some balls right at people, you know, set a field and make them run a couple plays and did a nice job. And, you know, but we couldn't scratch anything together. Boy, you know, I know he hates the rollercoaster term, but it just continues to feel very appropriate for the Padres. They score 20 runs over a 13 inning span. And now I've scored one run in their last 19 innings. It's just up and down. And by the way, Dylan Cease is a big of a culprit of the roller coaster as anyone question will look as dominant as any pitcher in baseball seven innings one hit. And then the next time it is just a string of extra base hits, home runs, doubles yesterday, three and two thirds innings, eight hits, six earned runs given up by Dylan Cease. And that happens. I get it. The one, the one pitch that made me mad was that for the first highlight, the first home run, the first inning by Nathaniel Lowe. And it's because, and Jesse said it well, he hung that Efas change. It's a pitch he throws about 1% of the time, maybe once a game. And he's talked about it. It's, it's really a throwaway pitch designed to just get the batter out of the, you know, his 95 really hard stuff. Like you keep seeing the hard stuff, throw him something that's 70 just a mess mess with his timing. But it's not a, it's not really a good pitch. It's not a pitch that gets any swing and miss. It's one that's almost always just taken for a ball. You know, I'd say about 80, 90% of the time. Now you did throw one for a strike earlier and he tried to go back to it. And you just don't want to get beat on your what fifth best pitch. It's just you can't, you can't let Major League batters get you on something that you know is not a competitive pitch. And that one put him behind two nothing and essentially ended the game because they never scored after that. Now did it matter? Would they have won that game if you haven't thrown that pitch? Probably not. No, and it's the same, you know, the same argument. You can't, I was up in arms a little bit after the, the missed strike three call to Lowe as well. Of course, the very next pitch, you throw that pitch and he hits it out of the ballpark. He did have him rung up, pitch was in the zone. It was a great pitch. You know, it could could it have changed the momentum of the game? I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. I'm not a prognosticator, Benjamin. I can't see the future. I wish I could. But when you roll out two hits in 29 A B's, yeah, it's not going to get the job done. Guys, rise over three pro far over three, Cronumworth over three, Machado over three, three caves, Solano one for three, Marolo for three, Hassan Kimo for three, Higgio for three, and first knock of the game and like the fifth inning or whatever was from Bryce Johnson or the third inning or whatever. But yeah, it was an ugly, ugly offensive performance, stagnant, talked about it off the air this morning. I don't like getting walked off on. I really hate that. Like it's, it's the one, it's one that keeps me up at night and sticks with me like son of a gun. But man, these games where it's like being in a root canal, where it's ground out, ground out, ground out, K pop out, K ground out. And of course, if all these are good pitcher, no question about it. None. He's a really good pitcher, has been for a long time, said yesterday, you better be on his fastball. You weren't on his fastball. You know, that way he mixes in that splitty, you know, and you pound the ball into the ground. Pods did hit some balls hard. I thought the play that was made by their shortstop, it was hot sun Kim's hot shot off the third baseman's glove. That was an incredible one of the better plays I've seen. Or I think who hit that? It was a third baseman backs up on it, boots it. Short stops right there makes a great, great play. Yeah, but other than that, I mean, Manny, Manny looked pretty, pretty lackluster at the plate, kind of waving at stuff last night. Just an ugly night yesterday. I hadn't realized how how much the pot raise had owned to the Texas Rangers. They'd went 11th straight against the Rangers down back to 2018 until yesterday. Oh, those streaks are always going to have to end, but now here we are again. Potters are still three games above 500. They did fall behind the Cardinals into the third wild card spot. Again, it's too early to really care specifically about where you are in the standings, but they're once again at that pivot point. Is this the start of a losing five out of six to drop back to 500? Or is this a two game losing streak, which every team's going to have a bunch of those over the course of the season. And then they turn it right back around and, you know, win eight of their next 10, which is it going to be San Diego Padres? Are you is that magnet going to pull you right back to 500 again? As it's done every time you finally got to five games above 500 for the first time with a really solid nine out of 10. Can you escape the clutches, the pole that is drawn you back every single time this season? It's okay to be drawn back two games. Don't make it four. And today's game is going to be a tough one. You know, Adam Major has, has yet to really put together a great performance in his, what, four or five big league starts. Those cats are licking their chops across the way. John Gray, who always tormented the Padres when he was with the Rockies. Bro, she has numbers against the pods. He is, he is 12 and six with a two 99, 159 Ks in twenty five. And he's having a good season this year and the Rangers are now hot, you know, everything, everything points toward Rangers should be on a roll now and the Padres need to do something to stop it. They need to step up and the offense needs to step up and shake off the last two games performances. How about not giving up a two run home run in the first inning like they've done in each of the last two games and figure it out because if they lose this one now, they're trying to avoid a sweep in the final game of the series on the 4th of July and then you're even closer to 500 again. So here, here we go again. San Diego Padres. Jeff says doom and gloom already. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's definitely gloom. I'll give you gloom. I'm not going to give you doom. But gloom. Yeah, those games last night, those are gloomy ass games to watch. Just a putrid, putrid offense that, you know, again, they didn't strike out a ton. You know, it just, it's the old and you heard, she'll say that balls didn't find holes. Okay, fine. I'll, I'll wear that today. But yeah, it's a little gloomy because you do have to look at today's matchup and then you have to look at tomorrow's matchup with, with Max Scherzer on the bump and go, all right, man, like you're behind the eight ball. Your best chance was to win last night. And now you're really going to have to pull something out of your rear end without a measure on the bump. I, I, I don't see him going out and dominating that lineup. But you know, Dylan sees too is, is just so up and down. He's so capable of, of good starts. But yeah, when, when he blows up, it's, it's pretty severe when he does it. And we did talk about it yesterday. The Padres offense does require some luck to get going. I mean, all of these big innings that they've had have not been an unrelenting string of extra base, you know, 106 mile an hour liners. Every single time it feels like they've had the six run inning, the five run inning, the nine run inning, two or three of those hits, kind of bloopers, belt in or, you know, an infield number that turned into an infield single. There's always one or two of those that have to go the Padres way to put together their big past the baton type innings. And when a game like yesterday, when, you know, they don't get any of those hits, nothing falls in, it's almost impossible to put together offense. You know, yeah, they've got some home, they've had more home run pop lately, but didn't have any yesterday, didn't have any extra base hits. There's just no offense to be found when that happens. There's just not much to talk about, man. When it's a two hit shutout, you know, there's just not much to talk about at all. When you're, you know, two hit shutouts, it's like a dream for any of all he was great. There's no question about it. But he was around the zone. He didn't walk anybody. He was around the zone. Got just didn't hit him. Just did not hit him. So got to figure out a way. I think John Gray, similar-ish pitcher doesn't throw his hard. I'll dig into some of the numbers on John Gray, but yeah, traditionally he has owned this team. So he'll be really, really comfortable going through, you know, going at this lineup today. We did get some injury updates yesterday after the day off from Mike Schilt. I'll pass those along for you and we'll play some take-on woods, chance to qualify for a trip to Vegas, the Rio, all coming up next with Benawoods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97-3 to fame. Hey, fantasy football fans. This is Zach from Upper Hand Fantasy. You don't want an embarrassing tattoo just because you lost a bet in your fantasy football league, right? If you do, I suggest I'm remade holding a football, but let's avoid that altogether. Frost and I are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to busts. We've got you covered to give you the upper hand on your friends. Start your fantasy football prep now. Join us and stay ahead of the competition. Follow and listen to Upper Hand Fantasy on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. You don't just live in your home. You live in your neighborhood as well. So when you're shopping for a home, you want to know as much about the area around it as possible. Luckily, homes.com has got you covered. Each listing features a comprehensive neighborhood guide from local experts. Everything you'd ever want to know about a neighborhood, including the number of homes for sale, transportation, local amenities, cultural attractions, unique qualities, and even things like median lot size and a noise score. Homes.com. We've done your homework. Nice. Today's episode is sponsored by NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. NerdWallet's experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights. No financial misinformation allowed. Learn how to save on your summer vacation. Find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast app. We did get some injury updates from Mike Shilt after the day off before the game yesterday. If you'd caught those on Sammy Levitt's pre-game show, some good news, especially as it relates to one Zander Bogart's. It's Ben & Woods. Welcome back. Zander Bogart's had a CT scan on Monday, and the results were good. Doctors say he's good to go, ready to start a rehab assignment, likely in the next day or two in El Paso. And Zander thinks if all goes well in about a week, he should be ready to come back to the Padres even before the All-Star break possible for that final series against the Atlanta Braves before the break. That was a small piece of good news that the Padres got yesterday on the injury front. You also saw Luis Camposano had his second day of rehab for the Lake Elson or Storm, caught the game, and hit a three-run home run from his knee. Yeah, I dropped down the old Reggie Jackson, Adrian Beltray swing. Where you swing so hard, you drop down to a knee. I don't recommend it. Not if you fall away. If he can do that, the thumb seems to be feeling better. So I would imagine that you'll see campy back with the Padres fairly soon as well. So those were the kind of good updates. There were kind of non-updates on you Darvish and Joe Musgrove. They're both throwing. Joe kind of long toss, you getting back into his throwing program, but no timetable yet on when that means they could return. Obviously Joe can't come back until at least the end of July since he's on the 60-day injured list. You could come back at any time. No, you Darvish could come back. He served his 15 days, but he's going to have to probably have at least another rehab start at some point after they shut him down with the elbow soreness. The first time he was coming back from what was the groin was the most recent one that he was dealing with. It was neck, neck, then groin, then elbow, then elbow. What's next? But glute. Playing operations. Yes. What is next? I think kind of more hidden concern, and it's hidden because he's still playing and he's in the lineup. Manny Machado was not at third base for the third straight game yesterday and fourth time in the last five games after he had been out there fairly consistently. They've been getting him off his feet every few days, every three or four days. They give him a DH day. Now that's three in a row, four out of five that Donovan Solano has been at third. Manny, of course, downplayed. It said this is just part of the strategy to keep me as healthy as possible through the season. Obviously, still dealing with the recovery from the elbow and the hip flexor injury that cost him a few days earlier this season as well. But you just have to wonder, how is Manny really feeling? He also went over three with three strikeouts yesterday. I wonder what somebody that's smarter than me go look up what his splits are position. When he dh's and when he plays third, the recency bias tells me that he's mashing a lot more when he's in that playing in the field, which doesn't surprise me at all. Luis Arise is a great hitter. He doesn't like to dh at all. With Zander coming back, am I? I don't know why I'm just, I'll just say it and I'll probably get it thrown back in my face. I have a good feeling about Zander Bogart's coming back. I don't know why I do. I just have a good feeling about it. I can't really get any worse, nowhere, nowhere to go but up. Here are your numbers, by the way, for Manny as a designated hitter, 170 at bats. He has a 247 average, a 297 OBP 400 slug that's a 697 OPS with seven homers 23 runs batted in as a third baseman 138 at bats has a 290 average 340 OBP 413 slug 753 OPS, only three homers but 22 runs batted in. So he's been more productive as a third baseman. Now he's also played more third base in the last month when he got healthy when he was on a hot streak. I don't know if one, that's the thing. What's the correlation or causation? Not sure on that one. And he has been hot lately. I mean, you're trying to keep his bat in the lineup as much as possible. It didn't happen yesterday but those are the numbers that you asked for. So there they are. Am I insane that I have a good feeling about Zander Bogart? No. I just do. I don't know why it. I don't know why I do but he was scuffling so badly. The beginning of the season, the position change and everything else. Being around this team and he's always, he's stayed with the team. He's been with the team. The, the, he was involved in all the stuff last week with the Nationals. That picture of him grabbing Manny by the face was awesome. Like he seems very engaged. I may be an idiot but I'll wear it if I'm wrong. I've been wrong a million times before. I feel like he's going to come back and play pretty well for us. I do. And it seems to be the healing and the, the, the mentally like getting that time off to say, all right, man, I'm watching these guys like, like grind hard to stay where they are. I want to be a part of this. I do need to be a part of it. They're counting on me. The only thing is with him coming back and I would imagine they'd probably be fairly, you can DHM too. As long as Manny's like playing third. You can DHM. Well, you're going to have to rotate people around. And if, if Manny needs to DH, you have a problem. Now let me get into that first. Let me throw out the phone numbers for take on woods. I want to try to qualify for Las Vegas musical trivia coming up against woods 833 28073 call now 833 28073. So if Manny continues to have to DH on, on the reg and regularly, yeah, I know it on the red. That means you're going to have to take either Zander, Luis Arise or Jake Cronworth out of the lineup, every single day, which is because you can't play all of them or Haas on Kim, but you can't play all of them every single day. You have five infielders who are everyday starters when Zander comes back in, in Manny, Kim, Zander, Jake and Arise. And one of them has to DH, four of them play the infield every single day. Correct? But, but if Manny is DHing, I guess you can move Kim to third and then Zander back to short. Do you want to do that though? I mean, you, you went through all the trouble of trying to move into seconds. Are you going to have to bounce them around to the middle of the infield? And then you could say, okay, then you could put Jake at short and leave Zander at second. That seems weird. Arise is not your best defensive player. Putting him at DH seems like your best option, like Arise, DHing, get your best infielders all in the infield playing, but that requires everybody to be healthy enough to play the infield every single day for the most part. Does any of this like Zander coming back a little sooner than we may have thought originally, have any impact on Haas on Kim's future? I've been thinking a lot about Haas on Kim's future with the team. And, you know, I'm not advocating for it, by the way. I saw a lot of people saying, well, I'll trade them to this team and that team. And, you know, you have to remember, there's no actual rumors. I know I brought it up. No, no. Yeah. But that's not an actual rumor that, you know, Kim is on the trade block, right? But he's the free agent at the end of the year. Yeah, I mean, but it would be foolish for agent to not at least take any calls because this is a guy that is going to walk at the end of the year more than likely. Yes, he's going to walk. You're probably not going to pay him what he wants. But the teams that need a shortstop are in your division. And if you want to trade Haas on Kim to the Dodgers or you want to trade Haas on Kim to the Giants perhaps, those are the teams that probably need him the most. That doesn't seem like smart business. I mean, the Giants are heating up. Giants just took two or three for the Dodgers. I believe they won again last night. If I'm not mistaken, they were leading. And I went to bed. So yeah, I don't know that that's the smartest thing. You're not going to trade him over to a team in the AL that doesn't need a short set. Nobody's looking to pick up a half season rental to play short down the teams. They have to be a contender and they have to need a shortstop. I just, yeah, in the second baseman. And you know, Kim's defense hasn't been at its best this year at short. So maybe he does become super subtype and moves over to third in many DHS. And I think that helps out a lot. And then Zander, hey, I know we just moved you six months ago, you're going back to short. Like, I wonder what that would do for him. I just, I just feel like Zander's going to come back and contribute. I don't know why I just have a gut feeling. But my, my gut's been wrong so many times about this team. I really like everybody's guts. I mean, too many good players is a great problem to have. It just seems like a common A.J. Preller theme. Correct. That he's got all these players and he's not sure exactly how they fit together. Yeah. And that's sort of where we're heading. Yeah. With the Padres again. Now, it doesn't have to ruin chemistry and ruin karma. But we've seen it like maybe doing that in previous seasons sometimes. You've already, you've already have Louisa rise playing out of position, at least in his mind, in his mind, he has said, I'm a second baseman. I saw his clip in the locker room saying, yeah, you know, he really doesn't want to do just not want to be just that's the best place for here, given everyone perforter type level. Correct. And so now you've got, again, another guy that's kind of out of position, kind of not happy Zander Luis. I mean, Jake doesn't seem to care. It's nice. Kim, they put it short because metrically, he is the best shortstop, even though he's not having a great year. Right. And Manny's metrics aren't great, but is he healthy enough to play third on a regular basis? Right. And Solano has been good enough that you want to have his right-handed bat in the lineup. At least he gets left. That's exactly right. So again, a little bit of Cadillac problems, but Cadillac problems are still problems. All right. We got some collars on one. Let's get to today's game. It is time to take on woods. It's time for take on woods. Woods. Woods. All right. Take on what's brought to you by Valve Elite Instant Oil Change, and only takes 15 minutes. You don't have to get out of your car for directions and discounts. Go to SoCalOilChange.com. That's SoCalOilChange.com. Let's go to the, let's go to line three today. Is this Christie? Yeah, it's Christie. I forgot we were playing the game right now. Oh, hang on. Hang on. That's all right. If you don't want to play, we can go to James. James, are you there? All right. You know, Christie passed, so that's fine. We can bring on a little bit later, Christie. James, you are a contestant today in Take on Woods. You have an opportunity to be the first to qualify this month for our getaway to the Rio Las Vegas, tonight's day, dinner for two, daybed at the Rio pool. The Rio is back to ownership, newly remodeled rooms. Book now at Rio Las Vegas.com. Here are your category choices today. James, you've got Give 'em a Hand, five song titles, including the word hand. We've got Rush, all about the band Rush, and we've got 1984 Soundtracks. So Give 'em a Hand, Rush, or 1984 Soundtracks, James. Let's go with the '84 Soundtracks. '84 Soundtracks. All right. This one is all about, as you can imagine, Soundtracks, from movies that were released in the year 1984. Really a good year for me in Woods. I'd imagine he'll do fairly well on this one, but James, you know what? If you get five, right, you can't be stopped in Take on Woods. So good luck to you. We'll have 60 seconds to answer as many of the five. If you don't know an answer, say pass. We'll come back to it at the end of the time. First question is the two-second song. You need to identify the artist and the song title, which also happens to be a movie title as well, to get that one right. James, you ready to play? Let's go. Paul, you all queued up. All right. 60 seconds on the clock. Let's do it. The category is 1984 Soundtracks. James, your time begins when Paul plays the music. Good luck. Let's Take on Woods. What's the movie correct? Tom Cruise dances around the house in his skivvies to Bob Seger, in which 1984 coming of age film. The band Toto composed their one and only film soundtrack for which epic space classic based on a Frank Herbert novel. Incorrect. Tom Cruise dances around the house in his skivvies to Bob Seger, in which 1984 coming of age film. You know what? Woods might miss the last one, which is Doom, the original Doom. He's not going to miss risky business though. James, you can hold on three. I don't think it's going to be good enough. I think he's going to get at least four here. We'll see. He doesn't get the category, but I don't know that'll make a big difference. All right. James, his score is locked in. Three set our song, but 60 seconds back on the clock. Woods, your time begins when Paul plays the music. Good luck. Let's take on James. That is full of spy Kenny Logger. Correct. Ray Parker Jr. had a 1984 smash hit with his theme song for which summer blockbuster. I mean, it's Ghostbuster. Correct. Harold Foltemarra won a Grammy for his theme named out to the lead character in which Eddie Murphy class it. Beverly Hills cop. Correct. Tom Cruise dances around the house in his skivvies to Bob Seger in his skivvies. Correct. The band Toto composed their one and only film soundtrack for which epic space classic based on a Frank Herbert novel. I love Frank Herbert. I need us to be the toughest one for you. I predicted this. Tron. Oh, good guess. That's dude. The original. Dude. But four to three as we surmised. Woods gets the win in 1984 soundtrack. You know that Footloose is my number one movie of all time. Is it? It's my favorite movie. Really good soundtrack. Not just that song but almost paradise. We're knocking on heaven's door. The best. It is a really good. It's great movie. Really good music. Very good movie. Liked all those movies actually. Dunes. The new ones are actually better than the old one. Oh, really? Yeah. Dune. The original Dune was kind of a flop. But I didn't know the Toto did all the music for that movie. I did not either. And then iconic Tom Cruise dancing in his undies. Son of a bitch, Folly. The immediate power down. Did they know the old random song to tell? Oh, god. We did like an hour on that song one time. All right. Yeah. Yeah. No qualifiers yet. We're off the next couple of days. So we'll go in the next week with a fresh clean slate on the trip for Las Vegas this month. Yeah, buddy. All right. We'll come back. We got to don't do this. All right, man. All right. I mean, I feel like I have to be very delicate with this next story. But it is a huge, huge story going on in baseball right now. And if you've seen the show Baby Raindear, it has come to life. It has come to life in in Major League Baseball. You're playing my Footloose video on our live stream. Yeah. So good. You ripping heaters, ripping heaters in there. Yeah, I reenacted the scene from Footloose. You know what? And we have to be fair. And don't do this. We actually have an Odyssey colleague who's in the crosshairs today. Now, out of market. Not as out of market. It's not Chris Ello. No, thank God. Annie Heilbrun. No, it's not far away from us. This is this is very a story that we can't we can't just ignore. No, it's very we got to be fair. I mean, they would do it to us. I would hope so. Well, I hope we wouldn't do this. Well, correct. Coming up next, the better woods after traffic on 97 three to fan. Don't do this. It's time for don't do this. What were you thinking? Three stories from the world of sports that make us all shake our heads. How many times do I have to tell you? I'm sorry. I fudged up, guys. You idiot. More on that. The apple sometimes does far fall from the tree. Don't do this. Do not tweet that with Ben and Woods. I like a Nickelback song or two on 97 three the fan. Don't do this. Brought to you by the craft taco in Serenal Valley. The craft taco has some of the best quality tacos in all of San Diego. Go to the craft taco.com. Take a look at their happy hour specials today. The craft taco.com and just to prove we aren't Homer Schills and protecting anything and anything and having to do with our own company, the shield. We are we're throwing one of our East Coast colleagues into don't do this today. A story that came out that Philadelphia radio host Howard Esken longtime sports talker in Philadelphia. WIP, which is self the king, by the way, which is a an Odyssey station has been banned from Citizens Bank Park for the rest of the season. After investigation found that he had made unwanted advances toward one of the Aramark employees who works at Citizens Bank Park, the food service company that you know, works the concession stands and the like the suites and we don't have no exact details of what happened. My guess is the suite is where it was other than there was an unwanted kiss involved. Oh my god, dude. WIP's parent company Odyssey confirmed the incident. So they take matters of that nature very seriously. Just so we all know they take it very seriously. And with the affiliate's approval, they have they've banned Howard from returning to Citizens Bank Park for the rest of the year now losses got his credential pulled. But he's not being suspended. He's going to remain on the air continuing to do his show. Really just can't go to the ballpark anymore. Huh, is that enough? I think I mean, they did an investigation. There's no criminal charges filed. There's not I don't think so. He attempted to give a woman an unwanted kiss. The Aramark lady, an attempt is but it's a failed attempt apparently. Bleaned in. That's still that's still creepy. It's still a he didn't want it. She didn't. She didn't Dad happened in the CP Rankin Club described as an exclusive area Citizens Bank Park. Seats between the dugouts. He says 72 years old tempted to kiss the woman as she backed away. Oh my god. Lean then she lean back. No, no, we're not going there. You have not going ever gone in for the kiss and got rejected. It's not a good feeling. I've done it. No, I'm I'm the one like on a date. Not just the cheek, not a stranger. I've never walked the studio. Hey, what's up? No, like a day or like you ever been at, you know, Gran old barbecue at the ballpark leaned in for the kiss and then didn't work out. Oh, no, no, no, I thought there was something that no, okay, connection is there's no this is embarrassing. Yeah, I've done it like on a date and like, you know, the end of the date comes and you go and know. Oh, no, they did the back away. Yeah, because you can do like also they they'll do the turn like I've got the turn. Yeah, I had the turn for sure got the. I'm I'm the kind of guy who always waited way too long. Like, yeah, I see that. What have you been waiting for? Like, I expected this like three dates ago. Then just another day with no physical contact. She's like, whenever you're ready, but yeah, polite handshake at the end. Yeah, I've definitely done the polite handshake. But you know, sometime like, this is a good rule of thumb here from Alisa. Good rule of thumb. Never kiss a random person while they're working. Absolutely. You'll get a drink at a bar or anything. I'm going to take it a step further. Never kiss anybody when they're working. Even if it's your spouse, if they're working, they're working. There's other times for kissing. That is not when someone's working. Yeah, I don't want like, actual assault under the wall is working at the seagull. And she's behind the, you know, she's in the kitchen working. I don't lean in for a kiss. It's not the time for it. I don't go in to Hannah's open houses and get a kiss. Exactly. They're working. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're also our wives. I still get the turn away from my wife. I mean, if I'm being completely forthright, I'll still go in for one and get Sean. Will you be banned from Petco Park for the rest of the year if that happens? If I'm, yeah, you try to kiss Hannah, she doesn't want it. Should Odyssey ban you from Petco Park? She would ban me from our house, but, but she needs my help. So she's not going to. That's gnarly by that guy. He should be suspended, I think, at least, right? Some sort of punishment still on the air. It's a bad look. It is. If you're Odyssey, if you're his boss, if you're his program director, you're like, dude, I mean, what if he honestly totally misread the situation? Thought there was something there. I thought there was something there. And then once she backed away, she said, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know. This is such a sensitive story. It's hard to do. I, bro, this blew my mind. Yeah, it was everywhere. Yesterday, I got people sending it to me saying, you guys going to mention this tomorrow? I said, I read it and I kind of looked at it and I went, yeah, I mean, I think it's important. Player safety is massively important, whether it's, and we're talking about unwanted advances from a male. This is unwanted advances from a female and posting things on Twitter like this. And there's a Twitter account yesterday that posted, and her handle is Boba Shet's wife. And it's Cassie with a bunch of numbers. It says, she took three different pictures of Boba Shet while he was clearly adjusting his cup. Baseball players do it all the time. It's more like a, it's more like a tick now on the field, honestly, like you check your cup, you know, moving around, whatever. That's just what we do and always have. And she tweeted three different times. I got him looking at me twice. He was pulling at his. Yeah, she says, calls it a spring packer. So you know what, Bo, you're done. Tomorrow, I'm wearing my skimpiest outfit. I'm a T's TF, the F out of you. See how you like it. But in other words, I can't wait to see you tomorrow, Bo Bear. And it didn't stop there. I mean, one, somebody like quote tweeted and said, Hey, like, this is, this is over the line behavior. And then if you go a little bit deeper into her account, her Instagram account, I mean, it is straight up, straight up stalking of Boba shit. And and so yeah, I'm sure Toronto is just like a weirdo on Twitter or she like hanging out outside of the player. She's at she's at a lot of the games. She's taking pictures at a lot of the games. And it's like, man, that is, that's where we all got our favorite players. We all have our favorite female players, whatever, whatever it may be, we all admire athletes. But she has crossed the line severely here. Now, the other thing is, is I don't know, you know, I don't know how all there she is mentally. When you see stuff like this, you're like, I don't want to make fun of somebody that has has an affliction. But this has to be addressed. It's it's if you ever had a doctor being on radio and no, not really, not a not a not a female stock. No, I mean, I have men like Corey Stewart, like normal stock. Yeah, normal stock. Normal stock is like Corey Stewart's the normal one. They're fine. I mean, uh, I've had like dudes that had it out for me, certainly, but never like, never anything like this. This is not our stockers are all really positive. Yeah, totally. Mostly good guys. Yeah, totally. So really, really creepy stuff. I mean, Boba shit probably finishes the game last night. Why am I trending on Twitter? And you see that and you're like, Oh my God. And it's it's it's heard a bunch of games him in the background. It's pretty creepy stuff. I mind your piece of cues. I finally quick do do this. Really just want to give some best wishes out to a former Ben and Woods guest who unbelievably always has a positive attitude. Even the life is dealt him a number of blows in recent years. To Dick Vitale, who had cancer came back and went through another surgery to remove a cancerous lymph node this week, but posts on social media says, Hey, you know, gonna beat this again. He's 85 years old. Pick of him two thumbs up hospital bed said, you know, he's hoping for good positive results from the test and then coming forward. But the guy has what twice been diagnosed with cancer before. This is number three. Just continues to battle always has a good attitude about it. Even into his eighties. Uh, when we had him on before, I just, this just seems like a really positive great guy. Love Dick Vitale and wishing him the very best. Oh, and how about a little extra? Okay. Jackson Merrill's just been named the rookie of the month. My friends, congratulations. There you go. Look at that. I have the numbers for you for June. I actually put those together yesterday and didn't didn't share them. His June was absolutely insane. Jackson Merrill went 33 for 103 seven doubles, nine homers, 20 runs batted in the 320 average 650 slugging 996 OPS in the month of June, uh, which has put him in the, uh, in the lead for all outfielders in the national league and wins above replacement at 2.6, not centerfielders, all nationally outfielders go by war. He's been the best out fielder in the nationally, even better than Jurex it. How jarring was it to see him make an error last night? Yeah, Jure, Bobble ball, Bobble ball, jarring. I was like, he finally, like he is human after all. Guy took an extra base, white lane for two. I don't want to do that with him, but, uh, that was, that was wild. When you smoke enough balls off the fence and center, eventually the centerfielder is going to bobble one. You know, he's just like, okay, this is like the ninth ball. I've had to pick up off the fence today. He was running his ass off last night out in the outfield bed. Yeah, they were, uh, they were barreling balls. And by the way, Jeffrey reminds everybody, uh, there's only an hour and a half left until nine o'clock to vote. Vote it up, uh, at mlb.com slash vote. The final all star vote. They had, uh, an update on some of the, uh, tallies yesterday. So in the outfield, Jurexon profile is seconds and Fernando Teteese is third. So technically, the Padres could get two starters, even though Teteese is unlikely to play, he would officially be an all star starter. That goes down in his baseball card and record book. So you can vote for both of them. Uh, Louisa rise was down about 10% I think to could tell Marte and Manny was pretty far behind Alec Bohm. I don't know if that one is going to change. Alec Bohm probably deserves it based on the first half of the season compared to Manny's, but please vote for Jurexon at least get in there, make sure that he gets to go to that all star game, uh, in a couple of weeks back in Texas where the Padres are right now, because you only have until nine o'clock this morning. And then, uh, this evening, I think four o'clock, they're going to announce the, uh, the starters for the national and American league all stars coming up and cross your fingers that, uh, at least Jurexon is on there for the Padres. 100%. He's got to be. He's got to be. So get, get your votes in. What, you just get what? One vote nowadays. So just get your vote in today. I mean, one vote per email account. So if you want to, if you have multiple accounts, like most of us do, you could, you could get, you know, spam emails from MLB at all your accounts going forward. Super fun. You can opt out. You ever feel like when you opt out that they, they don't send you those emails afterwards? Like I do not want to receive marketing emails from you. I click no on the box. I do too. When I can't sometimes like, I don't have to check the box to proceed. I also feel there's like a contest involved. They like make you check the box. I also feel bad sometimes. And then once everyone's six months, I go and unsubscribe on all my junk. But does it always, but I still get some of the emails even after I unsubscribe? I don't think you're doing it right. Yeah. I don't trust him. Nope. All right. That's don't and do do this for a Wednesday. That was don't do this with Ben and Woods on 97 three, the fan. All right. We got a lot of guests coming up on a big league Wednesday, including Brett Boone, Nick Hunley, you know, Saris is coming up later. It's going to be a busy rest of the show. Settle in more Ben and Woods on the way on San Diego's number one sports station, 97 three, the fan. It's funny. We had we had a Beverly Hills cop question and take on Woods early. Yeah. And Brett Boone's coming on at the top of the hour. Yeah. And he chatted with Taggart. Love him from Beverly Hills cop. Today is the day that the sequel, the fourth movie Beverly Hills cop actual F hits Netflix. I'm into it. Are you into it? Yeah. Now one was one was good. One was great. One was great. Two was actually not bad at all. Was bad ass. Three. I don't even remember. It was at a amusement park. Three. I literally know I couldn't. I couldn't tell you anything about it. Not even sure I've seen it. I saw it. I've only seen like bits and pieces of the third one. Are we optimistic about four here? No, not at all. Everyone old. They're all coming back though. I did not see Judge Reinhold in it. Okay. I never bought him as a detective. Really? Beverly Hills. I just that was the one thing that bothered me about the movie. It was too goofy to be a cop. Well listen, Victor Maitland was in it. Oh, is he in it? Okay. Joseph Gordon Levitt's in it. All right. Yeah. I did see him in there. Victor Maitland. That guy was a stone cold. Great villain. Great villain. And then his henchman, his henchman, the guy that rolled with him, the axle threw over the table. Electric. I mean, tag her. He was a cop. The boss. The Bogaville. Bogaville. He was great. And is he still alive? Because he's got to be. Yeah, you probably probably not at this point. Bogaville. He was awesome. But movie is the best. I mean, you know, 40 years site that. 40 years. 40 years since it came out, right? 1984. So you're not going to fall for the banana and the tailpipe. This is my fate. I mean, it's just such an elite. I mean, we can get that update from Boonie, I guess. Yes. Taggert's doing. Well, I saw Taggert years ago. I mean, he's got to be pretty old now too. We were at the old station. And I think it was, I don't know if the station was doing it, but like, I think Kaplan or Brown or somebody texted me like, hey, man, come up to Morgan's run. There's a bunch of celebrities up here. And Taggert is here. I'm like, from Beverly Hills cop, I'm on my way. I went up. I got a picture with him. I got to find it. He says, it's a comedy movie bet. I get it. But all the other actors felt like pretty in place, which is why it was such a great movie. I love Billy. I thought Billy was great. Billy Rosewood. He was fantastic. Oh, man, they take him. They take him to the strip club, you know, he's like the band of cops. He's the band of cops. Yeah. So so good. Yeah, I'll watch it. Probably watch it tonight. And it's probably not going to be good, but I'm into it. I just, I love that. I loved actual Foley. I was the coolest guy ever when I was a kid. Let's check traffic. We'll come back. It is the fourth July holiday for a lot of us. This is the last day of the work week. Hopefully, same out there for all the tier ones, but we'll be right back after traffic here at 97.3. The fam. Now's your turn. Thank you. I mean, you never really grow out of the 4th of July. It's always fun to barbecue and watch some fireworks, but my kids are older. It's not quite the obsession. New York kids are still. I mean, what are your planning tomorrow? We're going to go to a drone show instead of okay, of fireworks there. There's they do the, you know, the big bay boom and all that. And I'm into it. I mean, where I, I'm into it except for, hey, you got to go down at 4 a.m. and grab a spot. Like that's, you know, I'm not, I'm not doing it. My first year in radio working in promotions, I was there. All day long. I bet, dude. I bet it is. One oh five seven max FM was the soundtrack for the big bay boom. That wasn't the one big bay bust was it? No. That's the most memorable one ever. Remember the year when all of the fireworks went off at the same moment? Bro, they put us in like Ubers to get down there like 5 a.m. Yeah fireworks were like at 10 o'clock at night. Yeah, you got to go and reserve people. They're probably reserving it like tomorrow. Or what's today? The third day today, today, tonight camping out down there. I mean, I like fireworks. I've seen enough to know that I'm not going to go to a fireworks show that makes me go. Like I've never seen it before. Now drone show though, you might now a drone show. So we're excited about that. We're going to the drone show, drone light show. I think it's better for the kids. It's a little scary, you know, the loud booms and and all that. And I mean, I played with fireworks so much. I mean, yeah, it's a it's basically like an equivalent to symbolism for war rockets red glare. It's scary. It's kind of scary. Yeah, of course, remember, if you have pets, it's the worst night of the year for them. You know, the the ones that go off in the neighborhood at like midnight, those are the ones that make me insane. M 80s. Yeah. Or the ones that make the screeching noise. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, where I so where I grew up, do that again. Sounds like a cat. Where I grew up in Texas. I mean, Ben, I was like eight in the backyard, like, watch this. Like, it was just a part of my youth. And there were stands on every single corner. And you would come home with bags. My parents actually, they had a lake house later in life. And this was out in a little town called tool Texas. And you can only imagine the fireworks stand. To go out there and tool Texas. It's right next to gun barrel city, by the way, that's a true story. And you go out there, you're like, yeah, I'll spend 200 and you come home. And my dad would just shake his head. My brother and I out there, 14 coolers, lights deep, like them. And they just go up and into the lake and everything else terrible. It's how we get a Jason Pierre Paul situation as well. I was so scared after a while when I when that story came out when he blew his fingers off, I was like, I think I may be done with the old the old fireworks for now. It just doesn't have the appeal to me that it did when I was a kid. But we used to do, we've told we've told the story before the Roman candle wars on a tennis court. You like, oh, yeah, everyone's holding Roman candles, shooting them at each other and you're jumping out of the way. And I mean, it's very dodge ball, but don't fall with Roman candles. Smart, safe. And I really like now that I sit here today, having gotten through it, I don't regret any of it. A lot of fun. I was a very nervous child. The only one that I the only firework I would ever to the sparklers. And I would definitely drop it. The poppins, the poppins. So you never you never like lit like the big no bottle rock answer the no the tubes. I mean, there's tubes that are sized of this this thing filled with gunpowder and everything else and you're like, all right, bro, line it like you run away. The worst is when it would tip over. And you know, you never knew it was going to go. It was so dangerous. And of course, living here, I mean, we've seen it about a dozen wildfires this week. You do that and you're not careful. You can start a fire. It's good. We've got a record heat wave expected for this weekend. So the last thing we need is people lighting things on fire in San Diego and burning the entire city down as well. Yeah, it's it's pretty nuts. Is that the big bay bus? Oh, nice. Kevin said there's someone out there in the US that doesn't know they won't have 10 fingers on Friday. That's exactly right. And probably somewhere in Arizona, Texas, somewhere like that, it is it just goes. It goes nuts. So yeah, I think the drone show is going to be cool. I think they're going to like it. And it's a little bit more low key. I was talking to my wife about it. Local grew up in San Diego. I moved here in '09. And for the first 19 years of my life, the Fourth of July is like my favorite holiday. Yeah, summer up in Washington. If you didn't have a lake house, somebody had a lake house, the Wild West, somebody had a boat. You could go to like the reservation and get the really good fireworks. You could light them off in front of your house on your street. You can't and like move down here. And it's like, if everybody did that, San Diego would burn to the ground and I get that. And then Megan was like, yeah, everybody would just go to the beach when you could drink on the beach. That got outlawed. Like, I'm not going to the beach. I'm not going to sit in traffic for three and a half hours, park a mile away from the beach. Like it's it's a nightmare going to the beach now before. I think it's a competing news station that always goes down and does the Big Bay boom. You don't have to do that. It's good because you know they'd send you down there. They would. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I can see them. 12 hours. Totally telling me Ben. Then we're going to need to anchor the fireworks coverage again on the Fourth of July. Yeah. What do you say? Well, with Kimberly Hunt and we're here for the Big Bay boom now. We're here more than happy letting another station take three hours to go until the Big Bay boom. What's your least favorite Fourth of July barbecue side dish beans beans beans beans. It's the macaroni salad. I love Max. Oh, hey, macaroni salad. It's gross love cold. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. With mayonnaise. Delicious. It's horrible. Absolutely delicious. That's the worst thing possible. The best is a burger, a dog, potato salad, max salad. I also iced tea, don't want to melt. I don't like watermelon either. Oh, hi. Just bought some yesterday. Remember when they used to have seeds in them? They're black and you have to spit them out. They somehow they've it's called GMO, buddy, genetically modified. That's not happening. Yeah, you know what? Do whatever you got to do to me. As long as there's no seeds in my watermelon, I'm fine. I love the Fourth of July, too. I think they just went away one year. Yeah. It's like the one I was growing up. They had seeds and then now they don't. Deviled eggs. Deviled eggs. So good. So, so good. Free whole ace in the chat says, "Thanks for the shout out, Woodsy." I actually meant baked beans, buddy. Not you, my friend. Yeah, we played the video. But I don't want blast. I don't want beans at my heart. Burger or hot dog? Both. One of each. Both. Yeah, one of that. That's the cop out answer. No, no, you got to have one of each. You had to choose, though. Well, burger. See, now I always would choose burgers, but on the Fourth of July, because of the, you know, hot dog eating contest, hot dog seems appropriate on the Fourth of July. It's fair. It's fair. I'm excited for it. I mean, we're going to be, we're at a doing a staycation. So, we're just going to be chilling anyway. But, yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. I like, I like the Fourth of July. Our nation's independence. The video that goes around over here that murders me is the aerial footage over Los Angeles on the Fourth of July. Have you seen that? Like, the fireworks shows from all over the city everywhere from like a helicopter. And you get high up and you're above like 70. I mean, they're going nuts. Yeah, it's, you know, listen. Be careful out there. All right. You can get a lot of trouble for buying illegal fireworks. I've heard a lot. So, be careful out there. Please don't light them off my neighborhood. Can't stay. Typically, Wednesday, Brett Boone is going to join us when we come back. Second half of Ben & Woods on the way on San Diego's number one sports station, 97-3, the fan. All right, my friends, halfway home on a Wednesday, Ben & Woods, 97-3, the fan. Phenomenal to be here with you this morning. Looks like it's shaping up to be a very beautiful day outside. We are very, very lucky. We know that. I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Reindel, the executive producer Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor joins us as well. And I got a very special guest joining the program. Yeah, I got a busy hour coming up. I don't forget 835 Nick Huntley is going to be with us. Former Pontry's catcher now special assistant for the Texas Rangers. But right now, it is always a pleasure to welcome our Odyssey colleague, Odyssey MLB inside of Brett Boone. Insider calls are presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by, Brett. Also the host of the Brett Boone podcast, which we were just talking about, featuring notable names in MLB and more every single week. Now, I wonder if he gets grief like we get grief when we do the more, you know, like how we like stoop to sports. Shut up, right? Does Brett Boone get the same stuff that they just want baseball content from you, Brett? This isn't Lou Penella. Yeah, exactly. Like you, like you, you just had on your podcast, a dude I love, John Ashton. He played tagred in Beverly Hills copies, been in a bunch of stuff and so many movies, long storied Hollywood career. And I love that. I like, I like to see you going outside the box there. You know, you got to do a once in a while, don't you? What's your, I mean, you have to tag her to who knows who's going to be. Maybe the San Diego chicken tomorrow. You do never know how was John? I'm going to go, I'm going to go listen to that podcast because I, we were just all talking about how much we love the original Beverly Hills Cop. They got the new one coming out today on Netflix. I will 100% stop down and watch that at some point this weekend. Yeah, Johnny's great. I've known John for a lot of years. I remember I was a rookie in the big leagues and we were in Minnesota and they were shooting this movie. And I think, I think Randy Johnson at the time and Griffey had bit roles. And it was that the movie, Little Big. Little Bigly. Excellent. Johnny was the, he was the bench coach. Yep. And I remember, you know, you know, I'm just a kid and I'm just, you know, I'm trying. I don't know whether I'm coming or going, but we got this big Hollywood set. And I'm, you know, I see Taggart and I'm like, Oh, it's Taggart. So I started calling him Taggart. He's like, Well, no, my name's John. Pretty good part you got there, Taggart. We went out on the town and then, you know, I got to know him a little bit. Years later, I was in San Diego. And I come into the, we're coming to play the Padres. I'm with the Reds and I walk through the bar. And, you know, the team bus just got there. I walked through the bar to get to my room. There's Taggart with all the boys and they're shooting a movie. I said, listen, let me go put my stuff down. I'll come back down, you know, I'll have a drink and we'll, you know, we'll catch up and I get down and he's like, yeah, we're shooting a movie down to, I think they were shooting at Mission Bay and the producer wants to know, Booney, if we get seven tickets tomorrow, seven. And I said, well, here's the deal. Let's negotiate a little bit. I said, I need a role in this movie here, producer, producer. And he said, well, what do you want to do? I said, I just want something stupid. I said, but I need it. And here's what I need. When I get to the set, I need a trailer. I don't care how small it is. I need my name outside the trailer. I need a star next to my name. And sure enough, next day, I go down to Mission Bay. I got this trailer. It's as big as a shoebox. It's got my name written in Sharpie and there's a star on it. I said, hey, we negotiated. I got what I wanted. I played a cop. I had the vinyl, uniform that cops wear. And I had this terrible role, but it was fun. I got to see how it works. I drove this old cop car down the street. And Johnny was the star. He got out. He was the undercover cop. He had the cool clothes on. I've got this linen 1976 cop outfit on, but that's where our relationship goes back to. Great guy. He's over the top excited about this. I think I think it's one of those went straight to video. It's called fast money. It's fast. You look the money. I'm starring Brett Boone. I am all I'm all over. And I'll tell you what, you'd have to. It's streaming somewhere. It's got to be. Yeah, you'd have to rewind it and rewind it again to find out that is booty in the cop car. That's unbelievable. Crazy. I just rolled it up. Yeah. When a car thief can't resist stealing one more car, she finds herself in possession of two point seven million dollar mob money and the mob's counterfeit printing plates. Brett Boone, the 1996. Check it out. I'm in the clown. There's a clown scene. Just Google clown scene. And I'm the guy driving the cop car crazy. I'm all over it. So as long as we're on the topic, what is your favorite baseball movie? And oh, yeah, like what like big leaguers? Yeah, what are they really like when it comes to baseball movies? Because we always have this discussion. Well, I don't know if I'm I'm more cynical than your your normal big legger, but movies, baseball movies drive me crazy. So yes, you are I per sensitive. I just look at it and go, that's not how it really is. You know, these producers, what do they do? Oh, let's just put tobacco in everybody's mouth and have them spit, you know, really awkwardly because they're actors and they've never had tobacco in their mouth. And that's what ball players do, right? Oh, it drives me nuts. The ghost don't come out of the corn. That's not how it works. Okay, if I'm going to be honest, the most accurate portrayal of a baseball movie I've seen by far is Bull Durham, as far as how the minor leagues actually are. With a few caveats. There's there's one scene where they pull in and then they he says, hey, you guys want to rain out tomorrow and they go there in the evening and they flood the valley. It doesn't happen because you never get to a minor league city the night before because they're not going to whip out for the hotel room. So you're always getting there in the morning and never gets to a minor. So that that pissed me off. So, so other than that, though, I thought it was pretty good. I thought Kostner, if you know what bothers me more, Nathan, the way that the way that the actors move as athletes, it's not a real move. They don't move correctly. So that bothers me. Yeah, Tim Robbins. I mean, Tim Robbins can't throw a base. Yeah, James Burt as a Serrano in Major League had a pretty decent power swing. Well, and Sheen, Sheen looked like he knew how to pitch. Yeah, he did. He did. But, but you know what, either got to go, you got to look exactly the part or you got to go Tim Robbins, you got to go Robbins on me, which is it's so unbelievable that it's funny because it's so far the other way. So I'm going to go with either or I thought Kostner did a pretty good job. I thought he walked it. All right. I thought he moved pretty good. Swing wasn't bad at all. So I'm going to give, I'm going to give it a thumbs up. Boulder, my thought was was well done. But if you're going to go my favorite movie, it's a bad news bears without a doubt. So good. Nothing's even close. Math out in his day. I love bad news bears and breaking training tips. So those are my top three. I love that talking to Brett Boone here on Ben and Woods this morning. And you have been busy. I was just looking at your Twitter. So you were just on in in Dallas talking about the Rangers last night with the fan there, RJ Choppy and his group. And now you're on talking about the Padres. I said this this morning, Boonie, the last night's game was kind of one of those where man, I was talking about that nobody likes a loss. If you're a fan of a team, you hate all losses. But there's some that you're like, all right, I'll wear that one. That's fine. Last night was just, you know, I appreciate a good pitching performance as well as anybody. But man, just a two hit shutout. It's just so painful to watch. And the San Diego Padres just kind of looked like they never never got off the plane. Yeah, happened certainly, but definitely not a fun now kind of what we're we're not used to that from this team lately. Now, and you know, see that sees that a rough night. And but anytime you get one of those number one stopper type type starters in a Baldi, that can happen. And you just chalk it up to that was just one night, bad night. Let's go get them tomorrow. I'm I'm really impressed with this Padres team's doing, especially with, they've been really banged up. Like, I mean, Campasano, he's coming back, Bogart's, I heard doing a rehab this week. Tati's is not going to be back till after the break. And the two huge ones are Musgrove and Darvish, you know, Darvish out much longer than we thought he was going to be. He goes out with the leg injury. And now there's inflammation is elbow, Musgrove, you know, they're talking possibly August now. So the fact that you've held serve and I really play in some of the best baseball they've played one and seven out of the, yeah, seven out of their last 10, I think the Padres and the position they're in, in the playoffs right now, as it stands, if it were over today, with all the injuries and everything going on with the Padres right now, be playing the way they are and be in the playoff line. I think is a testament to them and their resilience, you know, they're they're starting to trend up, their top categories, all the offensive categories need to pitch a little bit better, but getting Musgrove and Darvish that huge. I think this Padres team at the break, I think you're going to have to go out because of that, because of the Musgrove, it's touchy. And now they're finding, you know, a bone chip. I think you're going to need another pitcher. I think you're going to have to go out there and get another pitcher. I love the bullpen. I love how it sets up to get to Suarez, but I think you're going to have to get a pitcher. I think this Padres team is a playoff team. And I was just talking, you mentioned the Atlanta, or I'm sorry, the Texas show I was just on. I've been thinking a lot about it in the game today and the 162 and how it used to be versus 2024, where it's not that marathon it used to be. And we used to finish that 162. And if you won the division, it was a big sigh like, wow, what a grind and we're standing right now. Today, it's not like that. There are so many injuries in the game today. And injuries play such a big role in streaks that teams go on or teams have a losing streak or a winning streak because a couple of the big guys are out. Injuries are playing a bigger role than they've ever played in our game. And I think what you do is it's all about positioning yourself, getting a seat at the table, not necessarily the division where it used to be, hey, we've got to win that division. Yeah, as a player, you're always going to have that mindset. No, we're going to win the division and we're going to get home field advantage. But it's all about getting a seat at that table and trying to get your roster in the right spot going into the postseason because that's what's important now. And then there's so many landmines in the postseason. You've got to go through so many rounds just to get to the World Series. So I don't think it's about necessarily the best team you're going to see going forward winning that World Series. It's who positioned themselves at the right time who stayed healthy and who got on a run. It's going to be your World Series champion going forward and not the old days where that guy that was standing at the top of the hill at the end of 162 usually went on and won that World Series. I don't think that's going to be the case anymore. Just getting the seat at the table and getting the right time. Talking about the MLB inside of Rhett Boone, again, insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger is the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. I wanted to ask you about Bruce Bocey, manager of the Rangers now. Obviously, you played for him. I know you love Boce because everybody loves Boce. I love Boce. I love covering him everything about him. But what what is it? Because Bruce Bocey has had a bunch of bad seasons in his managerial career. This one, I don't know how it's going to turn out, but obviously the Rangers have gotten off to a really slow start. But when he's had those chances with the with the Giants, with the with the Rangers, even taking the Padres to the World Series, he always seems to get the most out of the teams that that do have those opportunities, the ones that are there. What is it about Boce and about good managers that that just that little bit extra that they get the most out of their best teams? Through that, everybody else. I hate Boce. No, he he is. Okay, what I want to say first is is the manager can only do so much. And that's obvious. You know, you're in and you're out. I see it. Oh, that manager's not doing good. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't make the right. That's nonsense. Once the national anthem ends, there's only so much you can do. You can get the left, the up, get the right, the up, whatever, handle the media. A computer can do that. The great managers, I think, are people, they manage people. They're like a great CEO. It doesn't mean everybody's got to love you. It doesn't mean everybody's got to hate you have a knack. You have a way about you. You've got that hit factor. You get the best out of your players. You put your players in the best position to succeed. Boce is a little beyond that for me. He's a great manager, but he's got that factor where you know, I always think as a manager, you've got to separate yourself and the players. And usually that's via bench coach who is kind of the go-between between the manager and the players. I think as a bench coach, you're the players. Everybody's your friend. You get in until you go around. You make sure everybody's feeling okay. And you can have that closer relationship with the player. As a manager, I always say you got to distance yourself a little bit because he's going to be making big decisions. He's going to piss you off at some point in the season. Who knows? He might be the one that has to tell you you're going to AAA. He might have to be the one telling you we traded you. So I think there's a buffer in between. Boce, different than anyone I ever played for. He had a real close relationship with the players, which I thought was kind of taboo, but it worked for him. He's just a special, special guy that, you know, you mentioned, you mentioned Ben that nobody has anything bad to say about Boce. There's only a handful of people I've come across in my career where that's the case. And it is the case. I don't think everybody says nobody. Everybody loves him. Well, truly everybody that has ever met Bruce Boce. I really haven't ever heard a negative word about him. He's a great manager. He's a baseball manager, a knowledgeable man. He was a backup catcher, so he knows the grind of the season. It didn't come easy to him, so he has that perspective. But he's also got a fatherly best friend, grandfather type appeal to people where you just love him. He's kind of like a dusty baker. You know, everybody loves dusty. He's just got that way about him. And he has that ability to also be close with the players, but still be their disciplinary guy. And still be a guy. I think because everybody that comes in contact with them, they just have that level of respect kind of above and beyond. So he's that unicorn, I think when it comes to managers, he's lasted that probably old school breed that we grew up watching. And he's just a special special man. And I really can't put my finger on why he's able to do that. But he's been the one manager that I play for, that man I could play for. I could go 0 for 4 with a couple punch outs, make an error in a big situation. And after the game, he was my buddy for some reason. And he didn't make it an awkward feeling. It's a special thing that he was born with and not too many people have. Boney, always appreciate it. We thank you so much for making time and so much that you have throughout the season. We will chat with you again coming up after the holidays. You got it. Thanks, brother. Redbone always our insider calls presented by Granger supplies and solutions for every industry Granger has the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. We've got to take a quick time out. Can we talk a little bit more about Boach when we come back just because I thought Brett Boone had some interesting insight there. Got Nick Hunley at the bottom of the hour as well. So you don't want to miss any of that. Can I ask him about Boach too? Absolutely. Another guy who played for Boach. Another catcher who played for Boach there as well. Works with him now and works with the Rangers at the moment. So we'll get to all that after Kelly's traffic here at 97 through the fan. Baseball coverage in 97 through the fan is presented by T-Mobile. Switch to T-Mobile. You can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon. Use their savings calculator to find out at tmobile.com/switch. Thanks again to Brett Boone, our Odyssey Insider. And I was fascinated with him talking about what separates Bruce Boachie. So question for you. Boach has 26 full seasons under his belt as a big league manager. This is his 27th year. Do you think Boach has more winning seasons or losing seasons as a manager? Because you're asking me, I'm going to say losing. You know me pretty well. It's actually 13 and 13. He's got 13 winning seasons, 13 losing seasons, and an overall record. He's about I think he's about 15 games under 500 in his entire career. Like 2,130-something wins, 2,140-something losses. He was here for a while. Well, but he also had a bunch of losing seasons in San Francisco. He won three World Series titles. He also had seven losing seasons in San Francisco. It's not just the time with the Padres. Boach is an undoubted Hall of Famer, right? Oh slam dunk, slam dunk. When he retires, he is going to the Hall of Famer as a manager in baseball. No one has any question about that. None. He has a losing record, and if they don't turn it around this year, he's going to have more losing seasons than winning seasons. And this is the cream of the crop. This is the best, you know, of the best. This is a guy who will be talked about with Jotore and some of the legendary managers of baseball, the guys who have done it better than anyone and even he can't overcome. rosters that don't have enough talent, injuries, whatever. And you are always saying you put it on the players more than the manager. Is that not the perfect example that even Bruce Bochy, the guy that everyone in baseball admires, respects, agrees, is a Hall of Famer, has three World Series, four World Series rings now. Still didn't even have a winning record in this game because it's that hard to do it, especially if you don't have the players. Yeah, I mean, it's, that's why, yeah, you're right. That's why I do always kind of put it on the players. And really the GM, of course, takes, takes, gets a lot of credit, takes a lot of the blame for the players that, you know, you can only get so much out of guys. And, you know, you look at a guy like Kevin Cash, and I think he's a really good manager as well. Never had a high payroll to work with. You wonder, you wonder would Kevin Cash, if you stuck him in New York managing the Mets, would he, would he be as good? Would he be the same? Bob Melvin was so good with those young, talented Oakland A's teams. He gets here. There's a, the, the open, you know, a checkbook doesn't actually do that great. Gets us further than we've, we've gone in a while, but ran out of pitching then too. And, and you know, how much credit should he get? How much blame should he get? The, the, the person that's always quickest to blame the manager or the hitting coach, I just, I've always looked at that person and said, man, a hitting coach, it can only take you so far. A manager can only take you so far. You have to execute, you know, you do. And, and, and personal responsibility is, is really a, quite a thing in the game. I mean, I look at Voch's career and he's truly only had probably about seven really good teams. And he turned four of those into World Series titles. He turned one of them into a World Series appearance with the Padres in '98. The other ones, I would say 96 Padres were really good. Obviously, they lost right away in the playoffs. I think the 2006 Padres, his last season, they won 88 games, but lost that stupid series to St. Louis to start the playoffs. And they had another decent Giants team in 2016, but 87 wins. And then the Rangers won that he just had. Yeah. The rest of them, he's had tons of mediocre teams that just weren't that good. Yeah. But when he had the chance, he got the most out of him in October. So he's what, four for five in the World Series? Is that right? He's four for five in the World Series. Yeah. And in the playoffs, he's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine playoff appearances in 26 years. Wow, man. But four of them ended in World Series titles. That's, that's the dream right there. And, and yeah, I mean, and, and he, if you asked him, if you gave him truth, sir, like what do you do differently? He'd be like, I don't know. That run in San Francisco. It was not, dude. Boggle my mind, maybe forever. I was living, my college mates were all from the Bay Area. Yeah. Massive Giants fans. And just the fact that they would win the World Series, miss the playoffs. Yes. Win the World Series. Terrible year. Win the World's like, that's crazy. Well, it's crazy. Kind of happening in Texas. That's exactly right. Could the exact same thing could happen. Might miss the playoffs. You know, you know, I've always gotten the sense of, I've known a lot of, you know, a lot of people that, that played for him. Know a lot of people that have worked with him, uh, heard, you know, met him a couple of times. I've heard a million stories about him. You get the sense though. He's not, when, when Boonie compared him to Dusty Baker, I don't think the comparison was like, they're the same type of manager. They have the same type of stature, but Dusty Baker is a high energy at the end. Chew it on the toothpick, ready to go. Boach is like, all right, whatever. Just says, and it's almost, you look at him and go, do you do like, what do you do? He's just chill. Like he's just a chill guy. Like he's not a high energy pacing back and forth. Like, let's go. He's not a raw, raw guy, just guys for whatever reason. I'd say you can go get him. So yeah, he's just a guy you want to play for. He, yes. He does what the greatest leaders do. He makes you feel disappointed if you don't come through for him. Yes, dude. Not through anything he really does. It's just like, I don't want to let Boach down. 100%. Because I like him so much. Yeah. That's all he really has to do. Exactly. He's there and it's like, everyone else just decides. I've got to play well because Boach is here. I mean, bro, you think about like, what could, what would he have done in the, with the pod raise of the last couple of years? I don't know. I mean, I thought Bob Melvin was the absolute solution. Hands off, players manager, let them do it. Brilliant psychologist. Probably nothing different. Yeah, nothing. I don't think that would have been different. I don't think so either. Oh, we got another guy who played for Boach in Nick Hundley. He's going to join us. He's also a special assistant to Chris Young, the GM of the Texas Rangers. We'll catch up with Hundley when we return with Ben Woods, a 97-3, the fan. Said last night on Channel 10 that the Texas Rangers haven't exactly looked like defending World Series champions this year until last night. Last night, they very much looked like the defending World Series champions. They did it without Corey Seger. They did it with a great pitching performance by Nathan Evaldi. And they just beat up on Dylan Sees. We got Nick Hundley standing by. He's special assistant to Chris Young, former Padres catcher. Going to join us right after this check of traffic on 97-3, the fan. Yeah, I've told you Woods that in my now, what, 25, almost 30 years covering the Padres. There have been certain players that have always been kind of nervous about approaching per interviews and in the clubhouse. Our next guest is not one of them. I always enjoyed conversations with Nick Hundley. He just was really friendly. He was he's just more approachable than most. And I want to say thank you to Nick. I appreciated that when he was a player. And now he's joining us right now here on Ben Woods, a 97-3, the fan. Hi, Nick. How are you? Hey, what's up, guys? I hope I don't blow that, blow that credit with this interview. Oh, wait, I have no worries. He's going to, you're going to be just fine. How about, when you were playing Nick, what was the worst thing that media did? Like, what was the worst question that they asked you? Was it the, hey, what were you looking for on that pitch? Or was it the, tell us about your approach there? Because I watched those and it still happens, like on a regular basis. And I'm just like, well, obviously, he's looking for a pitch to hit, something to drive out of the ballpark and look for a pitch to hit and drive something out of the ballpark, I guess, right? Yeah, it would be tough because there was times when you'd played early in the series, you'd be playing the Dodgers and you're playing the Dodgers next week. And then you're playing them 18 more times. They're like, hey, what were you looking for against Chad Billingsley? He's like, well, I'm going to chase Chad Billingsley four or five more times this year. So I'm not going to answer that truth. I'm not going to tell you anything. No, Ben, certainly we have gone through the people that Ben was scared of. Andy Ashby was probably at the top of the list for some reason. He's like the nicest like dude ever, but Ben was terrified of him. But he always said, yeah, you were really nice. He had a sneer after the games that just kind of was off-putting. I don't know. He's great. Some guys, look, man, some guys get it and some guys don't. Some guys get the job and some guys don't want to be bothered by, you know, slappies like us in there. It's definitely part of the job for sure. So you know what you're signing up for. So tell me about the job right now with the Texas Rangers and working with CY as general manager. Obviously last year was just an unbelievably magical season. But what would you say? What are you kind of doing and what's your role right now with the Rangers? Yeah, right now it's a lot of draft stuff. I'll be with the team in Anaheim and then go back to Dallas for the draft. You know, just work through some of the catchers that we're looking at. Some of the amateur guys have probably seen about eight to 10 guys live and just kind of in our little pocket. And you know, I really enjoy that side of it now with how important the draft is. You look at, you know, you can look at what the Padres are doing with Jackson Merrill and then that same draft class, they draft James Wood and Gasser. And all of a sudden you look up and you've, you know, got a guy's potentially rookie of the year and two guys you traded for generational talent. So it's pretty fun month of month of July. So with the draft and the trade deadline. So this is really, really busy for me and then just give my opinion. And then then then head back to San Diego. Yeah, it's kind of the best of both worlds. I would imagine for an ex player with a family talking to Nick Huntley here on Ben & Woods this morning, you know, I ran into you over at the play structure and we were talking about that. And you know, I can't imagine like for Boach, I know it was hard for him. He wanted, he was like, I don't know if I'm ready to go back and do this every day grind. I can't imagine having to like be with the team every day when you got a young family at home. And I think this feels like for you a really, really good fit. Yeah, I'm fortunate. You know, and even the guys in Dallas do Chris does a really good job of fostering community and fostering the importance of family. I mean, he has three awesome kids. He loves his family, loves to be around them. You know, hires guys like Boach and Will Venable and things like that that foster the love that they have for their families too and build that community that way. So to be able to be a dad and still be involved and have a voice and be able to give my opinion and connect with CUI and the rest of our front office group, that's been amazing. So I'm very thankful the last two years to be able to do this for sure. Do you think this is Chris Young's calling as general manager? I always thought that he might be the next commissioner of baseball. Yeah, we all did someday as well after working in the office. He may be too, you know, even minded and for that job at this role. But tell me just a little more about CUI and what you think of him and what his futures is in store. So I think if I can do whatever he wants to do, he wants to use his notes. Today's episode is sponsored by Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. Nerd Wallet's experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights no financial misinformation allowed. Learn how to save on your summer vacation. Find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow Nerd Wallet's Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast ad. What kind of programs does this school have? How are the test scores? How many kids do a classroom? Homes.com, those, these are all things you ask when you're home shopping as a parent. That's why each listing on Homes.com includes extensive reports on local schools, including photos, parent reviews, test scores, student teacher ratio, school rankings, and more. The information is from multiple trusted sources and curated by Homes.com's dedicated in-house research team. It's also you can make the right decision for your family. Homes.com. We've done your homework. How do you fantasy football fans? Do you want to be the owner who was doing a crime session the night before the draft? I didn't think so. You need to start your prep now. This is Faraz from Upper Hand Fantasy. Zach and I are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to bust. We've got you covered and give it the upper hand on your friends. Today is the day to start getting ready for the draft. So join us and stay ahead of the competition. Follow and listen to Upper Hand Fantasy on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. It's funny. We had a Beverly Hills cop question and take on Woods early. Yeah. And Brett Bones coming on at the top of the album. Yeah. And he chatted with Taggart. Love him. From Beverly Hills cop. Today is the day that the sequel, the fourth movie, Beverly Hills cop actual F, hits Netflix. I'm into it. Are you into it? Yeah. That one was good. One was great. One was great. Two was actually not bad at all. Two was bad ass. Three, eight, don't even remember. It was at a amusement park. Three, I literally, no, I couldn't, I couldn't tell you anything about it. Not even sure I've seen it. I saw it. I saw it. I've only seen like bits and pieces of the third one. Are we optimistic about four here? No, not at all. Everyone old. Yes. They're all coming back though. I did not see Judge Reinhold in it. Okay, I never bought him as a detective. Really? Even Beverly Hills. I just, that was the one thing that bothered me about the movie. He was too goofy to be a cop. Well, listen, Victor Maitland was in it. Oh, is he in it? Okay. Joseph Gordon Levitt's in it. All right. Yeah, I did see him in there. Victor Maitland, that guy was a stone cold great villain. Great villain. Great villain. And then his henchman, his henchman, the guy that rolled with him, the actual threw over the table, electric. I mean, Taggart, he was a cop. The boss, the captain. Bogamill. Bogamill. He was great. He's, is he still alive? Because he's got to be. Yeah, you probably probably not at this point. Bogamill, he was awesome. But movie is the best. I mean, you know, 40 years. I doubt it's 40 years. 40 years since it came out, right? 1984. So you're not going to fall for the banana and the tailpipe? This is my fate. I mean, it's just such an elite. I mean, we can get that update from Boonie, I guess. Yes. Taggart's doing. Well, I saw Taggart. Years ago. He's got to be pretty old now, too. We were at the old station. And I think it was, I don't know if the station was doing it, but like, I think Kaplan or Brown or somebody texted me like, "Hey, man, come up to Morgan's run. There's a bunch of celebrities up here." And Taggart is here. I'm like, from Beverly Hills cop, I'm on my way. I went up, I got a picture with him, I got to find it. He says, "It's a comedy movie, Ben." I get it, but all the other actors felt like pretty in place, which is why it was such a great movie. I love Billy. I thought Billy was great. Billy Rosewood. He was fantastic. Oh, man, they take him, they take him to the strip club, you know? He's like the Ben of cops. He's the Ben of cops. Yeah. It was so good. It was so, so good. Yeah, I'll watch it. Probably watch it tonight. And it's probably not going to be good, but I'm into it. I just, I love that. I loved actual Foley. He's the coolest guy ever when I was a kid. Let's check traffic. We'll come back. It is the 4th of July holiday for a lot of us. This is the last day of the work week. Hopefully, same out there for all the tier ones, but we'll be right back after traffic here on 97.3, the fam. Now's your turn. Thank you. I mean, you never really grow out of the 4th of July. It's always fun to barbecue and watch some fireworks, but my kids are older. It's not quite the obsession. New York kids are still, I mean, what are you planning tomorrow? We're going to go to a drone show instead of fireworks there. There's, they do the, you know, the Big Bay boom and all that. And I'm into it. I mean, where I, I'm into it except for, hey, you got to go down at 4 a.m. and grab a spot. Like that's, you know me. I'm not, I'm not doing it. My first year in radio working in promotions, I was there. All day long. I bet, dude. I bet it is. 1-0-5-7 Max FM was the soundtrack for the Big Bay boom. That wasn't the one Big Bay bust was it. No, that's the most memorable one ever. Remember the year when all of the fireworks went off at the same moment? Bro, they put us in like, Ubers to get down there at like 5 a.m. Yeah. Fireworks were like at 10 o'clock at night. Yeah, you got to go and reserve people would probably, they're probably reserving it like tomorrow. Or what's today, the third day. Today, they're reserving it today, tonight. Camping out down there. I mean, I like fireworks though. I've seen enough to know that I'm not going to go to a fireworks show that makes me go like I've never seen it before. Now a drone show though, you might. Now a drone show. So we're excited about that. We're going to the drone show, drone light show. I think it's better for the kids. It's a little scary, you know, the loud booms and all that. And I mean, I played with fireworks so much as it did. Yeah, it's basically like an equivalent to symbolism for war. Rockets, red glare. It's scary. It's a little scary, yeah. Of course, remember, if you have pets, it's the worst night of the year for them. You know, the ones that go off in the neighborhood at like midnight, those are the ones that make me insane. It's the M80s. Yeah, the M80s. Or the ones that make the screeching noise. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, where I, so where I grew up, do that again. Sounds like a cat. That didn't sound like a cat. Where I grew up in Texas. I mean, Ben, I was like eight in the backyard, like watch this. Like it was just a part of my youth. And there were stands on every single corner. And you would come home with bags. My parents actually, they had a lake house later in life. And this was out in a little town called Tool Texas. And you can only imagine the fireworks stands. T-O-O-L. T-O-O-L. And you go out there and tool Texas. It's right next to Gunbarrel City, by the way. That's a true story. And you go out there, you're like, yeah, I'll spend $200. And you come home, and my dad would just shake his head. My brother and I out there, 14 coolers, lights deep. Whoo, light them in. And they just go up and into the lake and everything else. Terrible. It's how we get a Jason Pierre Paul situation as well. Bro, I was so scared after a while. When that story came out, when he blew his fingers off, I was like, I think I may be done with the old fireworks for now. It just doesn't have the appeal to me that it did when I was a kid. But we used to do, we've told the story before, the Roman Candle Wars on a tennis court. You like everyone's holding Roman candles, shooting them at each other. And you're jumping out of the way. And it's very dangerous. My dodge ball, but dodge ball with the Roman candles. Smart, safe. And I really like, now that I sit here today, having gotten through it, I don't regret any of it. It was a lot of fun. I was a very nervous child. The only one that I, the only firework I would ever, the sparklers. And I would definitely drop it for it. The poppins, the poppins. So you never, you never like lit like the big, no, bottle rockets or the, no, the tubes. I mean, there's tubes that are size of this, this thing, filled with gunpowder and everything else. And you're like, all right, bro, line it, line it, run away. The worst is when it would tip over. And you know, you never knew it was going to go. It was so dangerous. And of course, living here, I mean, we've seen it about a dozen wildfires this week. You do that and you're not careful. You're going to start a fire and it's going to, we've got a record heat wave expected for this weekend. So the last thing we need is people lighting things on fire in San Diego and burning the entire city down as well. Yeah, it's, it's pretty nuts. Is that the big bay bus? Oh, nice. Kevin said there's someone out there in the US that doesn't know, they won't have 10 fingers on Friday. Yeah, that's exactly right. And probably somewhere in Arizona, Texas, somewhere like that, it is, it just goes, it goes nuts. So yeah, I think the drone show is going to be cool. I think they're going to like it. And it's a little bit more low-key. I was talking to my wife about it. Local grew up in San Diego. I moved here in '09 and for the first 19 years of my life, one of the players of my favorite holiday. Yeah. Summer up in Washington, if you didn't have a lake house, somebody had a lake house. It's the Wild West. Somebody had a boat. You could go to like the reservation and get the really good fireworks. You could light them off in front of your house on your street. On your street? You can't, and like I moved down here and it's like, if everybody did that, San Diego would burn to the ground. It would burn to the ground. And I get that. And then Megan was like, yeah, everybody would just go to the beach when you could drink on the beach. That got outlawed. Like, I'm not going to the beach. I'm not going to sit in traffic for three and a half hours, park a mile away from the beach. Like, it's a nightmare going to the beach now before. So like, I think it's a competing news station that always goes down and does the big babe boom. You don't have to do that. No. It's good, because you know they'd send you down there. They would. No. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I can see them. Twelve hours. Totally. Telling me back. Then we're going to need to anchor the fireworks coverage again on the 4th of July. Yes. What do you say? What do you say? Come on with Kimberly Hunt. And we're here for the big babe boom now. I'm here. You're more than happy letting another station take three hours to go. Until the big babe boom. What's your least favorite 4th of July barbecue side dish? Beans. Beans. Beans. Beans. Beans. The macaroni salad. I love macaroni salad. Oh, hey. Macaroni salad. It's gross. Love. Cold. Oh, noodles. With mayonnaise. Delicious. It's horrible. Absolutely delicious. That's the worst thing possible. The best is a burger, a dog, potato salad, mac salad. I also. Ice tea. Don't watermelon. I don't like watermelon either. Oh, mind. Just bought some yesterday. Remember when they used to have seeds in them? They were black and you had to spit them out. Somehow they've. It's called GMO, buddy. Genetically modified. That stopped happening. Yeah, you know what? Do whatever you got to do to me. As long as there's no seeds in my watermelon, I'm fine. I love the 4th of July, too. And they just went away one year. Yeah. It's like when I was growing up, they had seeds, and then now they don't. Deviled eggs. Deviled eggs. So good. I like Deviled eggs. So, so good. Free whole ace in the chat says, "Thanks for the shout out, Woodsy." Oh, it actually meant baked beans, buddy. Not you, my friend. Yeah, we played the video. But I don't want blast. I don't want beans at my heart. Burger or hot dog? Both. One of each. Both. Yeah, one of each. That's the cop-out answer. No, no, you've got one of each. You had to choose, though. Oh, burger. See, now, I always would choose burgers. But on the 4th of July, because of the, you know, hot dog eating contest, hot dog seems appropriate on the 4th of July. It's fair. It's fair. I'm excited for it. I mean, we're going to be, we're going to be doing a staycation. So, we're just going to be chilling anyway. But yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. I like, uh, I like the 4th of July. Our nation's independent. The video that goes around every year that murders me is the aerial footage over Los Angeles on the 4th of July. Have you seen that? Like, there's the fireworks shows from all over the city. Everywhere. From, like, a helicopter. And you get high up and you're above, like, 70. I mean, the fair going up. Oh, yeah, yeah. Going nuts. Yeah. It's, you know, listen. Be careful out there. All right. You can get a lot of trouble for buying illegal fireworks. I've heard a lot. So, be careful out there. Please don't light them off my neighborhood. Can't stay. It's a big league Wednesday. Brett Boone is going to join us when we come back. Second half of Benawood's on the way on San Diego's number one sports station. 97-3, the fan. [MUSIC PLAYING] All right, my friends. Halfway home on a Wednesday. Benawood's 97-3, the fan. Phenomenal. To be here with you this morning. Looks like it's shaping up to be a very beautiful day outside. We are very, very lucky. We know that. I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Reindel, the executive producer. Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor. joins us as well. And I've got a very special guest joining the program. Yeah, I got a busy hour coming up. I don't forget. 835 Nick Huntley is going to be with us. Former Ponderase catcher, now special assistant for the Texas Rangers. But right now, it is always a pleasure to welcome our Odyssey colleague, Odyssey MLB inside of Brett Boone. Insider calls are presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Conclicgranger.com or just stop by, Brett. Also the host of the Brett Boone podcast, which we were just talking about featuring notable names in MLB and more every single week. Now, I wonder if he gets grief like we get grief when we do the more, you know? Like how we like stoop to sports. Shut up, right? Does Brett Boone get the same stuff? Do they just want baseball content from you, Brett? This isn't Lou Penella? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like you had, you just had on your podcast. Dude, I love John Ashton. He played tagred in Beverly Hills Copy. He's been in a bunch of stuff. And so many movies, long storied Hollywood career. And I love that. I like, I like to see you going outside the box there. You know, you got to do a once in a while, don't you? What's he? I mean, so with tagred, who knows who's going to be. Maybe the San Diego chicken tomorrow. You're going out. You do never know. How was John? I'm going to go listen to that podcast. Because we were just all talking about how much we love the original Beverly Hills Copy. Got the new one coming out today on Netflix. I will 100% stop down and watch that at some point this weekend. Yeah, John is great. I've known John for a lot of years. I remember I was a rookie in the big leagues. And we were in Minnesota and they were shooting this movie. And I think Randy Johnson at the time and Griffey had bit roles. And it was that the movie Little Big League. Little Big League. Excellent. John was the he was the bench coach. Yep. And I remember, you know, you know, I'm just a kid. And I'm just, you know, I'm trying. I don't know whether I'm coming or going. But we got this big Hollywood set. And I'm, you know, I see tagred. And I'm like, oh, it's tagred. So I started calling him tagred. He's like, well, no, my name's John. Pretty good part you got there, tagred. We went out on the town and then, you know, I got to know him a little bit. Years later, I was in San Diego. And I come into the, we're coming to play the Padres. I'm with the Reds and I walked through the bar. And, you know, the team bus just got there. I walked through the bar to get to my room. There's tagred with all the boys and they're shooting a movie. I said, listen, let me go put my stuff down. I'll come back down, you know, I'll have a drink and, you know, we'll catch up. And I get down. And he's like, yeah, we're shooting a movie down to it. I think they were shooting at Mission Bay. And the producer wants to know, boom, if we get seven tickets tomorrow. Seven. And I said, well, here's the deal. Let's negotiate a little bit. I said, I need a role in this movie here. Produced, and he said, well, what do you want to do? I said, I just want something stupid. I said, but I need it. And here's what I need. When I get to the set, I need a trailer. I don't care how small it is. I need my name outside the trailer. I need a star next to my name. And sure enough, next day, I go down to Mission Bay. You see, I got this trailer. It's as big as a shoebox. It's got my name written in Sharpie. And there's a star on it. I said, hey, we negotiated. I got what I wanted. I played a cop. I had the vinyl unit that cops wear. And I had this terrible role. But it was fun. I got to see how it works. I drove this old cop car down the street. And Johnny was the star. He got out. He was the undercover cop. He had the cool clothes on. I've got this linen 1976 cop outfit on. But that's where our relationship goes back to. Great guy. What movie? He's over the top excited about this. I think it's one of those went straight to video. It's called Fast Money. It's fast. You look the money. That's money. I'm starring Brett Boone. I am all over. I'm all over. And I'll tell you what, you'd have to-- It's streaming somewhere. It's got to be. Yeah, you'd have to rewind it and rewind it again to find out. That is booney in the cop car. That's unbelievable, man. I just pulled it up. Yeah, when a car thief can't resist stealing one more car, she finds herself in possession of 2.7 million dollar mob money and the mob's counterfeit printing plates. Brett Boone, the cop. 1996. Check it out. I'm in the clown-- There's a clown scene. Just Google clown scene, and I'm the guy driving the cop car. Oh, it's a clown. Crazy. I'm all over it. So as long as we're on the topic, what is your favorite baseball movie? Oh, yeah. Like big leaguers. Yeah, what are they really like when it comes to baseball movies? Because we always have this discussion. Well, I don't know if I'm more cynical than your normal big leaguer, but baseball movies drive me crazy. So yes, you are. I'm sensitive. I just look at it and go, that's not how it really is. You know, these producers, what do they do? Oh, let's just put tobacco in everybody's mouth and have them spit really awkwardly because they're actors and they've never had tobacco in their mouth. And that's what ball players do, right? Oh, it drives me nuts. The ghost don't come out of the corn. That's not how it works. Oh, it drives me crazy. OK, if I'm going to be honest, the most accurate portrayal of a baseball movie, I've seen by far as Bull Durham, as far as how the minor leagues actually are, with a few caveats. There's one scene where they pull in and then they, he says, hey, you guys want to rain out tomorrow and they go there in the evening and they flood the valley. Yeah, it doesn't happen because you never get to a minor league city the night before because they're not going to whip out for the hotel room. So you're always getting there in the morning and never get to a minor league. So that pissed me off, all right? So other than that, though, I thought it was pretty good. I thought, you know what bothers me more, Nathan? The way that the actors move as athletes, it's not a real move. They don't move correctly. So that bothers me. Yeah, Tim Robbins. I mean, Tim Robbins can't throw a base, but he's supposed to throw it. Dana Shaysbert, as Serrano in Major League, had a pretty decent power swing. Well, and Sheen looked like he knew how to pitch. Yeah, he did. He did. But you know what? Either got to go. You got to look exactly the part or you got to go Tim Robbins on. You got to go Robbins on me, which is, it's so unbelievable that it's funny because it's so far the other way. So I'm going to go with either or. I thought Costner did a pretty good job. I thought he walked it all right. I thought he moved pretty good. Swing wasn't bad at all. So I'm going to give it a thumbs up. Boulder, my thought was well done. But if you're going to go, my favorite movie, it's the Bad News Bears, without a doubt. So good. Nothing's even close. Math out in his day. I love Bad News Bears and breaking training tips. So those are my top three. I love that. Talking to Brett Boone here on Bed & Woods this morning. You have been busy. I was just looking at your Twitter. So you were just on in Dallas, talking about the Rangers last night with the fan there, RJ Choppy and his group. And now you're on talking about the Padres. I said this this morning, Booneie. Last night's game was kind of one of those where, man, I was talking about that nobody likes a loss. If you're a fan of a team, you hate all losses. But there's some that you're like, all right, I'll wear that one. That's fine. Last night was just, you know, I appreciate a good pitching performance as well as anybody. But man, just a two-hit shutout. It's just so painful to watch. And the San Diego Padres just kind of look like they never, never got off the plane, yeah, happened certainly. But definitely not a fun. Nah, it kind of, we're not used to that from this team lately. Now, and you know, see that a rough night. But any time you get one of those number one stopper type, type starters in a Baldi, that can happen. And you just chalk it up to, that was just one night. Bad night, let's go get him tomorrow. I'm really impressed with this Padres team's doing, especially with, they've been really banged up lately. I mean, Campasano, he's coming back. Bogart's, I heard, is doing a rehab this week. Tatis is not going to be back till after the break. And the two huge ones are must growth and Darvis. You know, Darvis out much longer than we thought he was going to be. He goes out with the leg injury. And now there's inflammation. It's elbow must growth, you know, they're talking possibly August now. So the fact that you've held serve, and are really playing some of the best baseball they've played, one in seven out of the, yeah, seven out of their last 10. I think the Padres and the position they're in, in the playoffs right now, as it stands, if it were over today. With all the injuries and everything going on with the Padres right now, be playing the way they are and be in the playoff line, I think is a testament to them and their resilience. You know, they're starting to trend up their top categories, all the offensive categories need to pitch a little bit better, but getting must growth and Darvis that huge. I think this Padres team at the break, I think you're going to have to go out because of that, because of the must growth, but it's touchy. And now they're finding, you know, a bone chip. I think you're going to need another pitcher. I think you're going to have to go out there and get another pitcher. I love the bullpen. I love how it sets up to get to Suarez. But I think you're going to have to get a pitcher. I think this Padres team is a playoff team. And I was just talking, you mentioned the Texas show I was just on. I've been thinking a lot about it in the game today and the 162 and how it used to be versus 2024, where it's not that marathon it used to be. And we used to finish that 162. And if you won the division, it was a big sigh like, wow, what a grind and we're standing right now. Today, it's not like that. There are so many injuries in the game today. And injuries play such a big role in streaks that teams go on or, or teams have a losing streak or a winning streak because a couple of their big guys are out. Injuries are playing a bigger role than they've ever played in our game. And I think what you do is, it's all about positioning yourself, getting a seat at the table, not necessarily the division where it used to be, hey, we've got to win that division. Yeah, as a player, you're always going to have that mindset. No, we're going to win the division and we're going to get homefield advantage. But it's all about getting a seat at that table and trying to get your roster in the right spot going into the postseason because that's what's important now. And then there's so many landmines in the postseason. You've got to go through so many rounds just to get to the World Series. So I don't think it's about necessarily the best team you're going to see going forward winning that World Series. It's who positioned themselves at the right time who stayed healthy and who got on a run is going to be your World Series champion going forward. And not the old days where that guy that was standing at the top of the hill at the end of 162 usually went on and won that World Series. I don't think that's going to be the case anymore. Just getting a seat at the table and getting right time. Talking about a CMLB inside of Rhett Boone, again, insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger is the right product for you. Call click ranger.com or just stop by. I wanted to ask you about Bruce Bocey, manager of the Rangers now. Obviously you played for him. I know you love Boce because everybody loves Boce. I love Boce. I love covering him everything about him. But what is it? Because Bruce Bocey has had a bunch of bad seasons in his managerial career. This one, I don't know how it's going to turn out, but obviously the Rangers have gotten off to a really slow start. But when he's had those chances with the with the Giants, with the with the Rangers, even taking the Padres to the World Series, he always seems to get the most out of the teams that that do have those opportunities, the ones that are there. What is it about Boce and about good managers that that just that little bit extra that they get the most out of their best teams? I hate Boce. No, he is. What I want to say at first is the manager can only do so much. And that's obvious. You know, you're in and you're out. I see it. Oh, that manager's not doing good. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't make the right. That's nonsense. Once the national anthem ends, there's only so much you can do. You can get the left, the up, get the right, the up, whatever, handle the media. A computer can do that. The great managers, I think, are people, they manage people. They're like a great CEO. It doesn't mean everybody's got to love you. It doesn't mean everybody's got to hate. You have a knack. You have a way about you. You get that hit. In fact, you get the best out of your players. You put your players in the best position to succeed. Boce is a little beyond that for me. He's a great manager, but he's got that factor where, you know, I always think as a manager, you've got to separate yourself from the players. And usually that's via benchcoach who is kind of the go-between between the manager and the players. I think as a benchcoach, you're the players. Everybody's your friend. You get in until you go around. You make sure everybody's feeling okay. And you can have that closer relationship with the players. As a manager, I always thought you've got to distance yourself a little bit because he's going to be making big decisions. He's going to piss you off at some point in the season. Who knows? He might be the one that has to tell you you're going to AAA. He might have to be the one telling you we traded you. So I think there's a buffer in between Boce different than anyone I ever played for. He had a real close relationship with the players, which I thought was kind of taboo. But it worked for him. He's just a special, special guy that, you know, you mentioned Ben that nobody has anything bad to say about Boce. There's only a handful of people I've come across in my career where that's the case. And it is the case. I don't think everybody says nobody. Everybody loves them. Well, truly everybody that has ever met Bruce Mochi. I really haven't ever heard a negative word about him. He's got that. He's a great manager. He's a baseball manager, a knowledgeable man. He was a backup catcher so he knows the grind of a season. It didn't come easy to him. So he has that perspective. But he's also got a fatherly best friend, grandfather type appeal to people where you just love him. He's kind of like a dusty baker. Everybody loves dust. He's just got that way about him. And he has that ability to also be close with the players, but still be their disciplinary guy and still be a guy. I think because everybody that comes in contact with them, they just have that level of respect kind of above and beyond. So he's that unicorn. I think when it comes to managers, he's last of that probably old school breed that we grew up watching. And he's just a special, special man. And I really can't put my finger on why he's able to do that. But he's been the one manager that I play for that man I could play for. I could go 0 for 4 with a couple punch outs, make an error in a big situation. And after the game, he was my buddy for some reason. And he didn't make an awkward feeling. It's a special thing that he was born with and not too many people have. Boney, I always appreciate it. We thank you so much for making time and so much that you have throughout the season. We will chat with you again coming up after the holidays. You got it. Thanks, Brebon. Always our insider calls presented by Granger supplies and solutions for every industry Granger is the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. We've got to take a quick time out. Can we talk a little bit more about Boach when we come back? Just because I thought Brett Boone had some interesting insight there. Got Nick Huntley at the bottom of the hour as well. So you don't want to miss any of that. Can ask him about Boach too. Absolutely. Another guy who played for Boach. Another catcher who played for Boach there as well. Works with him now and works with the Rangers at the moment. So we'll get to all that after Kelly's traffic here at 97 through the fan. Baseball coverage in 97 through the fan is presented by T-Mobile. Switch to T-Mobile. You can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon. Use their savings calculator to find out at tmobile.com/switch or thanks again to Brett Boone, our Odyssey Insider. And I was fascinated with him talking about what separates Bruce Boachie. So question for you. Boach has 26 full seasons under his belt as a big league manager. This is his 27th year. Do you think Boach has more winning seasons or losing seasons as a manager? Because you're asking me, I'm going to say losing. You know he pretty well. It's actually 13 and 13. Okay. You see that 13 winning seasons, 13 losing seasons and an overall record. He's about, I think he's about 15 games under 500 in his entire career, like 2,130-something wins, 2,140-something losses. He was here for a while. But he's, well, but he also had a bunch of losing seasons in San Francisco. He won three World Series titles. He also had seven losing seasons in San Francisco. Wow. It's not just the time with the Padres. Boach is an undoubted Hall of Famer, right? Slam dunk. Slam dunk. When he retires, he is going to the Hall of Famer as a manager in baseball. No one has any question about that. None. He has a losing record. And if they don't turn it around this year, he's going to have more losing seasons than winning seasons. And this is the cream of the crop. This is the best, you know, of the best. This is a guy who will be talked about with Joe Tory and some of the legendary managers of baseball, the guys who have done it better than anyone, and even he can't overcome rosters that don't have enough talent, injuries, whatever. And you are always saying you put it on the players more than the manager. Is that not the perfect example that even Bruce Boachie, the guy that everyone in baseball admires, respects, agrees as a Hall of Famer, has three World Series, four World Series rings now. He still doesn't even have a winning record in this game because it's that hard to do it, especially if you don't have the players. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, that's why, yeah, you're right. That's why I do always kind of put it on the players. And really the GM, of course, takes, takes a lot of credit, takes a lot of the blame for the players that, you know, you can only get so much out of guys. And you know, you look at a guy like Kevin Cash, I think he's a really good manager as well. Never had a high payroll to work with. You wonder, you wonder would Kevin Cash, if you stuck him in New York managing the Mets, would he, would he be as good? Would he be the same? Bob Melvin was so good with those young, talented Oakland A's teams. He gets here. There's a, the, the open, you know, a checkbook doesn't actually do that great. Gets us further than we've, we've gone in a while, but ran out of pitching then too. And, and you know, how much credit should he get? How much blame should he get? The, the, the person that's always quickest to blame the manager or the hitting coach, I just, I've always looked at that person and said, man, hitting coach, it can only take you so far. A manager can only take you so far. You have to execute, you know, you do. And, and, and personal responsibility is, is really a quite a thing in the game. I mean, I look at Vocha's career and he's truly only had probably about seven really good teams. And he turned four of those into World Series titles. He turned one of them into a World Series appearance with the Padres in 98. The other ones, I would say 96 Padres were really good. Obviously, they lost right away in the playoffs. I think the 2006 Padres, his last season, they went 88 games, but lost that stupid series to St. Louis to start the playoffs. And they had another decent Giants team in 2016, but 87 wins. And then the Rangers one that he just had. Yeah. The rest of them, he's had tons of mediocre teams that just weren't that good. Yeah. But when he had the chance, he got the most out of him in October. So he's what? Four for five in the World Series? Is that right? He's four for five in the World Series. Yeah. And in the playoffs, he's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine playoff appearances in 26 years. Wow, man. But four of them ended in World Series titles. That's the dream right there. And, and yeah, I mean, and, and if you asked him, if you gave him truth, sir, look, what do you do differently? He'd be like, I don't know. That run in San Francisco was not will boggle my mind, maybe forever. I was living my college mates were all from the Bay Area. Yeah. Massive Giants fans. And just the fact that they would win the World Series, miss the playoffs. Yes, win the World Series. Terrible year. When the world's like, that's crazy. Well, it's crazy. Kind of happening in Texas. That's exactly right. Could the exact thing could happen. Might miss the playoffs. You know, you know, I've always gotten the sense of, I've known a lot of, you know, a lot of people that played for him, know a lot of people that have worked with him, heard, you know, met him a couple of times. I've heard a million stories about him. You get the sense though, he's not, when, when Boonie compared him to Dusty Baker, I don't think the comparison was like, they're the same type of manager. They have the same type of stature, but Dusty Baker is a high energy at the end, chewing on the toothpick, ready to go. Boach is like, whatever. And it's almost, you look at him and go, do you do like, what do you do? He's just chill. Like he's just a chill guy. Like he's not a high energy pacing back and forth. Like, let's go. He's not a raw, raw guy. Just guys for whatever reason. Say you can go get him. So yeah, he's just a guy you want to play for. He, yes, he does what the greatest leaders do. He makes you feel disappointed if you don't come through for him. Not through anything he really does. It's just like, I don't want to let Boach down because I like him so much. Yeah. And that's all he really has to do. Exactly. He's there. And it's like, everyone else just decides, I've got to play well because Boach is here. I mean, bro, you think about like, what could, what would he have done in the, with the Padres of the last couple of years? I don't know. I mean, I thought Bob Melvin was the absolute solution. Hands off players, manager, let them do brilliant psychologists. Probably nothing different. I don't think I don't think so either. Well, we got another guy who played for Boach and Nick Hundley is going to join us. He's also a special assistant to Chris Young, the GM of the Texas Rangers. We'll catch up with Hundley when we return with Bena Woods, a 97-3, the fan. Said last night on Channel 10 that the Texas Rangers haven't exactly looked like defending World Series champions this year until last night. They very much looked like the defending World Series champions. They did it without Corey Seager. They did it with a great pitching performance by Nathan Evaldi. And they just beat up on Dylan C. So we got Nick Hundley standing by. He's special assistant to Chris Young, former Padres catcher. Going to join us right after this check of traffic on 97-3, the fan. Yeah, I've told you Woods that in my now what 25, almost 30 years covering the Padres. There have been certain players that have always been kind of nervous about approaching per interviews and in the clubhouse. Our next guest is not one of them. I always enjoyed conversations with Nick Hundley. He just was really friendly. He was, he's just more approachable than most. And I want to say, thank you to Nick. I appreciated that when he was a player. And now he's joining us right now here on Ben and Woods, a 97-3, the fan. Hi, Nick. How are you? Hey, what's up guys? I hope I don't blow that credit with this interview. Oh, I have no worries. He's gonna, you're gonna be just fine. How about when you were playing Nick, what was the worst thing that media did? Like, what was the worst question that they asked you? Was it the, hey, what were you looking for on that pitch? Or was it the, tell us about your approach there? Because I watched those and it still happens like on a regular basis. And I'm just like, well, obviously he's looking for a pitch to hit, something to drive, you know, out of the ballpark and for a pitch to hit and drive something out of the ballpark, I guess, right? Yeah, it'd be tough because there was times when you'd play, you know, early in the series, you'd be playing the Dodgers and you're playing the Dodgers next week. And then you're playing them 18 more times. They're like, hey, what were you looking for against Chad Billingsley? He's like, well, I'm gonna taste Chad Billingsley for four or five more times this year. So I'm not going to answer that truth. I'm not going to tell you anything. No, Ben, certainly we have gone through the, the people that Ben was scared of. Andy Ashby was probably at the top of the list for some reason. He's like the nicest, like dude ever, but Ben was terrified of him. But he always said, yeah, you, you were really near after the games. It just kind of was off-putting. I don't know. He's, he's great. Some guys get it. Some guys don't. Some guys get the, get the job and some guys don't want to be bothered by, you know, slappies like us in there. It's part, it's definitely part of the job for sure. So you, you know what you're signing up for. So tell me about the job right now with the Texas Rangers and working with, with CY as general manager. Obviously last year was just an unbelievably magical season. But what would you say? What, what are you kind of doing and what's your role right now with the Rangers? Yeah, right now it's a lot of draft stuff. I'll be with the team in Anaheim and then go back to Dallas for the draft. And, you know, just work through some of the catchers that we're looking at, some of the amateur guys. I've probably seen about eight to 10 guys live and just kind of in our, in our little pocket. And you know, I really enjoy that side of it now with, with how important the draft is. You look at, you know, you can look at what the, what the Padres are doing with, with Jackson Merrill and then that same draft class they, they draft James Wood and now, and Gasser and all of a sudden you look up and you've, you know, got a guys potentially rookie of the year and, and two guys you traded for, for generational talents. So it's pretty, it's pretty fun, fun month of, month of July. So with the draft and the, and the trade deadline. So this is really, really busy for me and then just give my opinion and then, and then, then head back to San Diego. Yeah, it's kind of the best of both worlds. I would imagine for, for an ex player with a family talking to Nick Hundley here on Ben & Woods this morning. You know, I ran into you over at the play structure and we were, we were talking about that and, you know, I, I can't imagine like for Boach, I know it was hard for him. He wanted, he was like, I don't know if I'm ready to go back and, and do this every day grind. I can't imagine having to like be with the team every day when you got a young family at home and I think this feels like for you a really, really good fit. Yeah, I'm fortunate, you know, and even, even the guys, and Dallas Duke Chris does a really good job of fostering community and fostering the importance of family. I mean, he is three awesome kids. He loves his family, loves to be around them. You know, hires guys like Boach and Will Venable and, and things like that, that, that foster the love that they have for their families too and, and build that community that way. So to be able to, to be a dad and still be involved and, and have a voice and be able to, to give my opinion and connect with CUI and the rest of our front office group, that's been amazing. So I'm very thankful the last two years to be able to do this for sure. Do you think this is Chris Young's calling his general manager? I always thought he might be the next commissioner of baseball. Yeah, we all did. Some days well after working in the office, he, he may be, he may be too, you know, even minded and, and for that job at this, this role, but tell me just a little more about CUI and what you think of him and what, what his futures is in store. So I think see what I can do, whatever he wants to do, you know, he's, he's, he's proven that in the short time, going from the league office to, to running a team to, you know, to win a World Series in the short time. And obviously he's not the only one involved. There's a lot of foundation late by, by John Daniels and, and the group, um, upon him. But, but Chris is just a, a different type of leader. You can connect with, with people in A-ball. You can connect with ownership. He can connect, connect with, with people doing ticket sales, security guards. He just has a real respect for people and serves people really well and has high standards. So I mean, I can tell you stories for days about playing with Chris and, and the standards we had and, and get himself ready and the standards that he had for his teammates and getting them ready and, and what he needed out of people around him, what he needed out of me catching him. I learned a lot. I was really, really fortunate coming up with guys like Trevor Hoffman and Greg Maddox and CY and David Eckstein and those types of guys that, that showed me how to prepare and actually be a big leader on what, what an actual day looked like in the big leagues before the game and after the game. Um, and he was, he was the top of that, top of that list. So I learned more about preparing to play a major league baseball game from Chris Young than anybody, which is pretty, pretty instant to say because as a starting pitcher, that's not usually the case. That's pretty incredible stuff. Talking to Nick Conley here on Benno Woods this morning and, you know, the, the, I kind of at the beginning of the year, we do the normal sports radio thing and all right. Where do you think everybody's going to finish? And I, I had the Rangers, uh, you know, the hangover, the World Series hangover, certainly real, and Ben was going over some of the numbers yesterday before the series started and said, I really can't put my finger, uh, on why they haven't played as well as maybe they should not get on base. It's not getting on base right now. But man, you got some good young talent. Wyatt Langford's one of my favorite players to watch him. I watched him hit for the cycle. The other night, I'm like, what an absolute beast he is. And Corey Seeger, of course, I mean, gold standard type player, World Series MVP, an absolute for us. Adelis Garcia, I love my kids love him. Like what a good team that you guys have put together just hasn't materialized yet. And there, I think there's still plenty of time to turn it around. But what have you kind of seen? Yeah, I think, I think all of those things are true. I think, um, you know, we've been banged up. I think Josh Young has played three games for us, four games worth. And the way that he was, I mean, starting the, starting the all-star game last year, he would have, would have probably been, I would say, probably won the rookie of the year if he didn't break his thumb last year. Obviously Gunnar Henderson is an amazing player too, so nothing take away from him. But I would have voted for him if he was able to stay healthy. So he's an absolute all-star star in this game. Not having him, not having Evan Carter, who burst on the scene. Another, talking about draft coming up, the second round pick from the, from the range just a couple years ago. And then, you know, having a little bit of under-performance at times, guys fluctuating a little bit. There's, there's about a month, month period where kind of everybody wasn't hitting on all cylinders, which, you know, it happens sporadically through the year. But when it's a concentrated point where a lot of guys aren't, makes it a little tougher to win. But, you know, the way that we've been taking at Vats for the last couple of weeks has been a lot more in line with, with who we are. And that's really encouraging. Like you look at the, the game last night, you know, Dylan Seast throwing 98 with, with two really good breaking balls. And we're able to, to not expand and take pitches at the margins and win those pitches and, and get in good counts. And, and, you know, thankfully we, we did some damage on some, on some mistakes. But the only do that if you take those, take those marginal pitches and for a guy who strikes out 200 guys a year to take those marginal pitches against is really, really tough. So that was an encouraging zone. Yeah, it was a lot of fun for us too, watching the game. The first, that first marginal pitch to Nathaniel was strike three marginal pitch. Oh, whatever. It's fine. You still got a score to win, little why I threw him that change up after that. That's all right. We don't need to relitigate yesterday's game. We're talking, like a Ranger special assistant, former Padre. And you mentioned doing some scouting now of young catchers. You were obviously a top young catching prospect to second round draft pick when you came out. And I, I don't know how much film you've seen, but I was wondering if you had any perspective from outside the Padres organization, an Ethan Salas, someone who we keep hearing about. And you know, they, they just talk about what amazing skills he's got for a 17-year-old kid, you know, playing in, in high, high A, went to double A for a little while last year, but kind of struggling offensively, maybe expected. What's the talk around the league about Ethan Salas? Yeah, he's, he's impressive. You know, actually one of our, uh, Brett Bocey is, uh, is working with the Rangers now to scout. Um, and he covers a lot of, uh, the West Coast. So I talked to him a lot. And then, um, you know, I know, I know Riley Westman for, for a long time, a couple years now, um, talking to him about Ethan too, um, he can really, really catch and really throw. And the thing that I love, you know, the, the thing that I love about Catchers, I love, watching their pace and their heart rate. And when there's big situations, I was fortunate to play with Buster Posey for two years. I feel like I saw the game speed up him up on him one time in two years. Like he's just heart rate and he just played with his pace where he just dominated the game because it's, it's such a tough game and it'll speed up on everybody. But when you have a catcher who's in a leadership position, who, uh, who's in big spots and they have their heart rate as low, it's such a, such an incredible trait to have. And I think that's what Jonah Heim has are catcher in Texas, gold Glover and, you know, started the all star game last year. His pace and his heart rate is so good that when you're in the World Series and the bases are loaded and the role this Chapman's doing. And two, they're like, if I'm catching that situation, my heart rate is really high and I might be chasing it back to the back stop. But Jonah's not, Buster's not, and it looks like the pace that Ethan Salas plays at, it looks like for me is watching him, like he's not going to be chasing that ball either. Like he's going to control that game. So all the skills and all that stuff aside, all the youth playing at the higher level above his, above his age, all that stuff aside. I just really like the pace that he plays with. That's such good information. Doug and Nick Conley here. Last one for me. I mean, you see it a lot on Twitter and you see a lot. You hear a lot and people are, I don't understand why these catchers now, you know, the catching position has changed certainly. And there's a new, there's a new way that's being taught, you know, the glove down, the kind of steel one. And we watched Ethan do it brilliantly when we were at spring training. I could have watched him do catching drills all day, but the position has changed. Nick, it changed from when I was a kid, you know what I mean? And how have you as a catcher, former catcher adapted to maybe teaching a little bit way, a different way to do it? Yeah, how much time do you have? We've got about five minutes left. Yeah, I mean, so we'll start up when, when umpires weren't graded as, as hard, right? Now with the Z system, like these umpires are graded so difficulty, they, they get every single pitch. They, and a lot of them, I mean, we can go into a tangent on ABS and all that stuff too. But umpires have gotten so good at calling balls and strikes with the system that they're graded. Some guys are shooting 98, 99 hundred percent. So you can't, they can't, when I came up, if you would move the ball, umpires would ding you like crazies. Like hey, don't do that. It makes me look bad. Catch the ball, hold it so I can see it. Like if you would move the ball at all, like you'd get crushed by umpires. And when I came up, like Greg Maddox told me when I came up, don't move. Like if you set the target up and you move it, it's like me standing over ball, ready to like on a tee and ready to tee off. And like in my backswing, you yelling at me. So don't like literally don't move. So I was like a statue. I was like, oh my gosh, can I even breathe? Like this is a hall of fame around, but I don't want to get sent down tomorrow. Please like throwing to me, you know. So now that the umpires are graded so heavily, like you can move the ball as much as you want. And they can't hold that against you, right? So your goal as a catcher is to make the ball that's two inches below the zone, look exactly the same as the ball that's one inch above the zone. So I'm going to catch it the exact same way. I'm going to pull it up the exact same way. So these small margins, when Dylan Cece is doing 89 mile an hour sliders and 98 mile an hour fastballs, like these small marginal pitches, I want to make those look exactly the same. And then probably talking through one knee down, stances like that, guys are throwing so hard now that the sliders, the splits, like Evo made of all the last night was throwing 89 mile a split, 93 mile an hour cutters. Like if I'm in a traditional stance where I don't have one knee down, I'm playing higher. The level that I play at is a lot higher than if I have one knee down. So it's a lot easier to block all the blocking metrics. When it first came out, there's like, well, how are you going to block in a one knee down stance? And all the blocking metrics and passball metrics are so much better now than they were when most guys want traditional stances. Just because you're playing lower to the ground, you don't have to exert as much effort to block that ball, to receive the low pitch, things like that. And we have an amazing catching coach, and Bobby Wilson, who is one of the leaders at that, teaching the one knee down stance. So one, I'm firing two, velocity, and then three, just longevity and health. I think it's a lot easier on your body to be in that position, as opposed to being in a traditional squat for such a long period of time throughout the season. So there's a lot of a lot of positive things about it. Like any revolution that takes place, there's going to be a lot of pushback, and a lot of traditional, traditional lifts will say, oh, that doesn't look right. That's not the way to do it. But at the end of the day, like, I like flat screen TVs, I like replay, I like planes, like, I like all those things, like, let's continue to advance, you know. Yeah, I like advancements as well. That was amazing. Great stop. We could probably continue on if we had more time, we don't, but promise you'll, you'll come and do this again with this real soon. Maybe in studio at some point, if you're when you're in town. Yeah, I'll sneak in. Yeah, we were all popped in there. That'd be awesome, man. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank God. All right, Nick Hundley. I got some stuff to react to on that when we come back. Final hour of Ben and Woods get around the report ahead as well. Don't go away. More on the way here on San Diego's number one sports station, 97. Three, the fan. Thanks again to Mick Hundley. Just joined us. That was a fun conversation. Final hour of Ben and Woods here on a Wednesday. Heading into the 4th of July holiday. Now, of course, everything that Nick Hundley said about catcher framing, I thought that was fascinating about when he pitched umpires would get mad if he tried to frame. Now everybody does it. But of course, that could all go away as soon as next season, if they decide to go to an automated ball strike robot umpire system, framing will have zero value at all. It'll either be a ball or a strike. You can catch it ugly, catch it soft and pretty. And it won't make the bit of difference in all this work that these catchers have done for years and years on framing and, you know, you know, how they show it to the umpire will make no difference whatsoever. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying that's a lot of work that's been put in that could be completely eradicated by one rule change. Yeah, and I don't know that they're discussing full on robo. Um, so right? It's more of a discussion that may not be what is implemented. Sure. Okay. With a challenge system, man, I really am because last night, Higgy on that on that pitch in the first inning would have tapped his helmet and boom strike three year out. And I'm fine with the challenge. The challenge is fine. I don't know how many you do. I don't know how you keep it moving, whatever. I know that's the most important thing in baseball now to get it over with as far as the commissioner's office is concerned. But I don't think you'll ever I don't know that you'll ever see full robo. I really don't. If only we had someone smart that could discuss this with us further. Oh, how about that? In fact, we do have someone smart. And because tomorrow is a holiday, our usual Thursday guest. Going to join us a little bit earlier right now on a Wednesday. It's time for the super polish. You have to be named smart baseball weekly segment with Eno Harris, Sarah's son of a bitch. Brought to you by seven mile casino, just seven minutes from the ballpark by the pay in Chula Vista. Here's Eno Saris with Benin Woods on 97 3, the fan. Happy Independence Day to you, Eno. What's on the barbecue menu at the Harris or Saris home. I'm probably gonna do hamburgers. My little secret is and this is going to discuss some people, but it's really good. A tiny bit of fish sauce, a little bit of soy sauce, and then I mix like it's like three quarters beef, one quarter pork. Eno knows umami. This is what yeah, this is great that new mommy burger. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were going to say you use mayo to put the burgers together, which I have heard is really, really good. The extra menu. Yeah, it binds it. Yeah, and it's a little fatty in there and a good flavor. I think that'd be a decent one. I may try that myself. Let's, yeah, I'll do that. You do yours with fish sauce on it and we can compare. Don't disparage the fish sauce. It's in a lot of things you like. You just don't know it's in there. You don't put a lot of it. Yeah, you don't put a lot of it in it. It's not like you would separate it out if you're eating it. I love a good fish burger. I like my beef to taste like fish every time if I have the opportunity. No, not until you try. That's fair enough. So, you know, we were just talking with Nick Conley and about framing and then, you know, the idea of the automated ball strike system came up. How do you see it playing out? How does Major League Baseball get to handle this? Because obviously, that discussion is not going away anytime soon. Yeah, I think it's going to be the challenge system like you see in tennis and I think that's the best outcome because it's fun for the viewers. In tennis, when they challenge a double fault, you know, they go to the big board immediately. Everyone looks at it. There's limited amount of challenges. You look at the board and the crowd goes, "Oh!" and they watch the ball bounce, you know, and there's like an audience participation portion of it. So, the challenge system is you have three challenges. The batter has to challenge immediately. There's no looking over to the manager to see if they should challenge and you only have three for the game. So, you have to kind of hold on to them, but that means no huge. You can't lose the game on a bad call, you know. There's no, you know, if you have the bases loaded in the eighth or something, then you can challenge it and it's immediate and there's audience participation. The reason I don't like ABS as it is now is that walks and strikeouts went through the roof in the minor leagues when they instituted it and their only sort of recompense has been to shrink the strike zone and walks and strikeouts are still kind of high. And then, lastly, like, I think there could be unintended consequences. I think of Sergio Romo and Rich Hill throwing Frisbees and these huge 12 to 6ers that hit the plate, that the catcher catches two feet outside the strike zone, but nick the strike zone and make the light go green. And I'm not sure that I want baseball to sort of, you know, end up in that direction. Yeah, and I've always been of the opinion that it doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't. And I know it's recency bias and everything, you know, but I mean, I'm seeing some lately that is, you know, the catcher may move his glove a little bit, but the ball's down the middle. I mean, it's 96 at the, not even at the top of the zone. It's down the middle. And these guys are missing. And I understand how hard it is. You know, your eyes can only catch up. These guys are throwing nastier stuff than they ever have before. But I do think that, you know, there's some, some way to do it where everybody is happy. I mean, but then again, we're talking about baseball that can't decide on a uniform baseball that is worth everything. Everybody's happy. Right. Yeah. I don't think that's never. Exactly. And one thing that we have seen with the umpires is that since we've had the machines, the umpires have been trained by the machine. And so I know this is kind of hard to hear, but the umpires are doing the best they've ever done. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It's true. I think Mike and it's they're pretty good. It's like a 95% sort of thing. So it's not, you know, it's not, it may feel sometimes like they're guessing, but, you know, they're actually pretty good. I think if the system is implemented, as you said, with the challenges, I guess my, my concern, or I would just assume that with as competitive as teams are, if the Astros found a way to cheat stealing signals, you can see instantly if it's a ball or strike. Some way, some teams going to figure out how to get that information to either the hitter or the catcher to make those seemingly instantaneous challenge decisions to know that they're going to be right 100% of the time when they do challenge. Yes. Yes. You're right. They're going to have somebody. There, there is actually right now a battle over whether the strike zone box is allowed on the iPad that's in the, in the dugout. So the umpires complained that players were using the strike zone box on the, on the pitches they could watch on the iPad to, to argue with the, the umpires. Yeah. Because, of course, yeah. Yeah. If your umpires ask for the box to be taken off, and then the players union fought back and now the boxes are back, but maybe if they do have a challenge system, you are not allowed to have boxes on those pitches on the iPad. Interesting stuff. Talking to, you know, Sarah's here on Ben & Woods this morning and, you know, saw trade this morning. Aaron Savali going from the raise to the Brewers for an infielder. Kind of your, your thoughts on that are the raise trading from a position of depth here, or they just doing what the raise do and just moving guys. I, I, I looked up his numbers. There's nothing to write home about, but I'm sure, you know, every team needs arms. Every team needs innings eaten. You know, what was your kind of take on that? And do you expect some more arms to be moved? And if so, who? I mean, they have a couple of guys coming back from injury and Jeffrey Springs and Drew Rathnuffin. They're in a really tough division. So it could just be an early sell. You know, they're, they're at 500, but they're, you know, they're fourth in their division. And, you know, Aaron Savali hasn't turned out exactly as they hoped. He's a kind of a bad fastball guy with good breaking balls. They thought they could coax, you know, you know, three really good breaking balls out of there. And I think sometimes his breaking balls blend together. And so I think there's just been, they, they traded Kalman Zarda, who was thought of as a pretty good hitting prospect, who struggled a little bit in the major leagues and has tried so far in Cleveland. But they don't, they don't look backwards. And, you know, like, oh God, we got to hold on to Aaron Savali because we traded Kalman Zarda for him. They do have a little bit of AJ in them where they're just like, no, next, next move, next move is this, you know. And so they have Shane Boz, who was at one point one of the best pitching prospects in the minors. He's lost a little bit due to injury, but he's ready to go. So they're just going to stick Shane Boz in there and keep on trucking. And the next person goes down, hopefully, you know, one of their returning guys from injuries is back. And, you know, they also want to think beyond this year. So if they trade him for somebody that they have next year, then that's so much better for them. They always do. They always think beyond this year, always. We are a little different here in San Diego. And we've been talking about how creative our general manager is going to have to be. There's, you know, there's money constraints. There's prospect constraints. Kind of how do you see potentially in your gut the trade deadline for the San Diego Padres shaping up? Yeah, the crochet thing is a super interesting because you can get Derek Crochet is probably the jewel of the deadline because he's got years of control. He throws 97. He looks like an ace and he's in Chicago with the White Sox and they're not going to be good in the next two, three years as well as they have him. The problem is that the most innings he's ever thrown before this year is 60. Now he's at 95 or 100. And every inning after this is sort of stepping into the unknown. But if you trade for him and you have to shut him down for the playoffs or you have to turn into a reliever or whatever it is, you know, that would affect your short term. But the nice thing is you have him for the next couple of years. So it wouldn't just be a deadline acquisition. And if there's anybody that I think would maybe quote-unquote throw caution to the wind, it might be AJ and just say, "Hey, you know, we're going to let Derek pitch as much as he feels good." You know, we're doing that right now with Michael King in a way, you know. And so he might just roll the dice there and maybe he can acquire crochet for a little bit less than you'd expect, given all these questions about how many innings you will actually give him. The best otherwise is like a Jack Flaherty rental from the Tigers. Or, you know, you kind of wait for the Rangers to fall out and do a Max Scherzer rental. But the clear jewel is crochet. Talking to you know, Sarah's from the athletic here and with James Wood making his major league debut on Monday, a lot of people revisiting once again the 2022 Padres Nationals one Soto trade. And I imagine we're going to be doing this for a decade to come. We don't have to though. We don't want to. It's our show. We don't have to. We don't have to do it. And in some ways it's impossible to ever really do it. I mean, you can, you know, how do you, I mean, you can just go straight like war for war and who gave you more in the future. But you can't really, you can't really do that because, you know, players then turn into other players like the Padres did with one Soto and can't take away a nationally championship appearance, a series appearance. Does that happen without one Soto? Have no idea. So it really is impossible even after the fact to truly evaluate a trade. I'm sorry, you know, and if you were going to go back and look for it, you were going to, you would have to like, you'd have to realize that, you know, James Wood had like a 50 40 chance of turning out to be even now that he looks so good. He's in the big leagues. He still has a sort of 50 50 shot of being a great player, you know. And so you have to think about the sort of probability of each thing. And it does look like that trade for Soto, you know, a lot of the players that he traded away in that trade are turning out to be on the better end of their probabilities. You know, CDA rooms might be one of the worst defensive shorts off some big leagues, but he looks pretty good on offense. And he's super young and they haven't forever. The Kinsey Gore turned out to be one of the better versions of himself, I think. You know, it's lining up to be like, okay, you know, they did a good job in that trade. But they were also trading, you know, a few years of one of the best hitters on the planet. And yeah, the Padres got something out of it too. So, you know, one thing that just sort of boggles my mind is that, you know, Jackson Merrill's, you know, in center field playing really well and looking like a maybe even a future star himself. And they traded away so many guys and they still have a guy like Jackson Merrill. So, you know, the playbook is clear for Preller. It's just keep restocking the cupboard and keep trading them away and hold on to a couple of them. Maybe even current star for Jackson Merrill, you're nationally rookie of the month. That's right. Of this this morning. You know, you have a very good Fourth of July holiday, good weekend, and we'll talk to you again next week. All right. Thanks, guys. You know, Sarah, so the athletic or smart baseball segment brought to you by seven mile casino. Joe, your fish burger, you know, it doesn't really taste like fish. Why put it in there? It's it's just kind of amplifies the flavor of other things. Why wouldn't it be meat sauce then? I mean, it is made from fish, I believe. Beef oils, just an accurate name. Wouldn't you want your beef to taste more like beef? Like you like beef oil. You love cholula, right? Yeah, love cholula. It's got that kind of smokey kind of, you say sometimes smells like feet a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. That's what fish sauce is. It's got that extra kind of foot kind of funk to it to just makes everything taste better. Okay. I mean, if you like this taste of smelly feet, then yes, it sounds like it's right. I think you do. Which I think you do. I could be. All right, Paulie's got a rental report coming up. We'll look ahead to the matchup tonight. Padres Rangers game two of the series all ahead after a check traffic here on 97 through the fan. Padres like most teams are in need of starting pitching depth. I brought up a name during the break that Woods did not seem interested in. But yesterday the Texas Rangers parted ways. Well, I guess Johnny Quato opted out of his minor league deal with the Texas Rangers. Now, Johnny Quato is over the hill. He's not the Johnny Quato. That was really good pitcher, by the way, for good, good chunk of time back in the 2010s. Johnny Quato was one of the top pitchers in the National League for a while. It's not that anymore. But, you know, he's got his experience. And if he's healthy, there's a team that's going to want to take a flyer, I would think, at some point on Johnny Quato here yard barker, which is a baseball website as them has him potentially helping out the San Francisco Giants, which he has a long history back there, the New York Mets and the Boston Red Sox. So I don't know. I mean, are we in a position to turn down anyone at this point? On a minor league deal? I think the answer to that question is no, but doesn't blow my hair. I will say that anytime you pair a pitcher with Ruben the Abla, there is some intrigue there, because there's a track record of whatever magic that Ruben the Abla has working. I mean, look at Big Fudge. You're a new favorite. Love Big Fudge. Austin Davis. Yeah. And the changes they I've seen some side by side videos. Some of the Padres Twitter accounts from 2022 versus 2024. And just the incredible amount of extra movement he's getting now. I mean, Coach Fudge. Yeah. Yeah. Coaching does make a difference. We not learn enough, though, from Rich Hill last year, someone just Zach said, smells like Dick Mountain all over. That absolutely does. That's true too. It absolutely, absolutely feels like a different version of Dick Mountain. And that was excruciating to watch. I don't know how you guys feel about it, but that was it's Arietta. It's Dick Mountain. It gives me like panic attacks feeling. Trying to remember last year, we didn't have a ton of major injuries to our rotation. Certainly not our our top two guys. So you know, AJ kind of went around the margins. The year we got Arietta, all the injuries happened right after the trade deadline. Yeah. Like right after like the day after the trade deadline. So we were kind of screwed there. That's when you had to go get Jake Arietta in August off waiver, you know, whatever, Vince Velasquez. So now AJ knows, and he knows better than us what the future holds for this season with Darvish and Musgrove in particular, like he knows he's got to go out and make some moves. Yeah. I don't think there's any question. Janine, who is just my favorite, she's incredible in the chat. She goes, I don't know. Cease is pretty awful to watch too. He has his moments. He has his moments. In my in my mind, when I watch Dylan Cease, I go, all right, he may be off to a rough start. He gave up a two run homer in the first, the reasoning I had with myself was at least he's throwing 98. I mean, he's up there. He's gassing it up there. If he can hone it, if he can figure out a little mechanical adjustment, whatever, but they pounded him really, really good last night. They really, really got to him. And did, as Nick Unley said, a lot of damage off him, a lot of doubles, a lot of home runs. I mean, everything was for extra bases last night. But, you know, I just, I don't, I don't watch Dylan Cease and I'm not filled with rage like I was when I watched Rich Hill pitch, you know, Rich Hill's throwing 61 miles an hour up there and I'm going, I'm kind of like Mike Shelte. I mean, I know Dylan Cease hasn't been perfect, but I'm not worried about Dylan Cease. He, I'm not, he's got the stuff still. I mean, he will be on or he won't, but I'd rather have him out there than on it honestly. And I know it sounds like I'm such a hater, but today's starter is getting another chance because the Padres don't have any better options. I hope he's not pitching again because he's done so well. He's pitching again because the Padres don't have any other options. I hope Mr. and Mrs. Measure do not listen to the Ben & Woods program. I'm sorry for his vitriol about your son and I don't know if Johnny Quiddo would be a better option right now than Adam Asian. Can I say no? Can I just say no? Can I say no? He wouldn't be necessarily wrong, but there's got to be someone out there that's not that you don't have to give up your entire farm system for. They could be an upgrade right now over Adam Asian. Now Adam Asia in a couple of months or next season or in two years might be a really decent fine starting pitcher, but he's not there yet. And the Padres right now are three games above 500 in a massive battle with all kinds of teams for a playoff spot. And they continue every fifth or sixth day to hand the ball to someone who's not quite ready to be a regular big league starter. It's too bad we're not on tomorrow because he's going to shove tonight. He's going to absolutely shove. I hope he does. He'll be left with egg on your face. Adam Asia are going to shove against the Texas Rangers. I forgot about that. I had forgotten about when Southern Ben out of nowhere one day popped up. An authentic show here in Dallas, the Texas Rangers, Texas, the Texas Rangers, the Texas Rangers here with my family and my family. Where would, where was that from? I wasn't asked to do a Southern accident. You just did it. You just did it. And I, we said, did you just do a Southern accent? It's very, very good. That was in March. March. It must have been the tier one tour maybe. We were talking about the Rangers. Yeah, let's hear it again. The Texas Rangers. Yee-haw. That is on the leave of the Texas Rangers. Got my 10 gallon hat on. Ranger. Talking about my Texas Rangers. The Texas Rangers. That was so good. It's so good. You're like a chameleon. Wherever you go, that's where you are. Adam Asia tonight and against John Gray, who you had the numbers I think earlier. Twelve and very successful. Twelve and six, two, nine, nine, one. Maybe beat him one out of every three times. Maybe this will be one of the three that they actually get John Gray. Yeah. It feels like you're going to need more than, you know, a run or two offensively to win this game tonight. Yes, you wanted. What did you say? They've scored one run in their last 19 innings. That was scoring 20 runs in their previous 13 innings. Feast or famine again. This is if we were, we were felt like we were climbing out of the Feaster famine hole and we were right back in it. It's like they woke up in the day and they're like, Oh, just because- Five games above 500. Just because your feasting doesn't mean you're out of the Feaster famine cycle. Yeah. Listen, I knew they weren't going to feast the entire rest of the season, but a snack or two in the middle of it. You know, if you're not feasting, have a meal. Can you go from eight, nine, 11 runs to four, six, five, whatever. Fine. Right. Is it always happy? Yeah. Twelve? No. Thirteen won. I mean, it's last season. That's last season as well. Exactly right. Right. The ship today fell us. Right. The ship. Going to need more. Going to need more from, I would say the top of the order. I mean, that's why they hit at the top of the order because they're really good. Our top of the order lessons is a four, oh, for 15 or something. So yeah, going to need more from the top, certainly tonight against John Gray. All right. We're going to take our final time out and then we'll come back and Pauli's got his Rindle Report headlines for us and we'll wrap up our short week here heading into the 4th of July holiday with more better woods on San Diego's number one sports station, 97 through the fan. This hour on 97 through the fan is brought to you by the frozen ropes, baseball and softball training facilities. Frozen ropes now signing up athletes aged six through 12 for baseball and softball summer camps, half day and full day options are available. Make it a frozen rope summer like Bo Woods. For more information, visit San Diego frozen ropes.com. That's San Diego frozen ropes.com. The game on Sunday, buddy. It's excited. When now when does your tier one start again? Sunday, Sunday. I mean, imagine winning the World Series in October and two weeks later, they're like, all right, you're back at it, fellas. There's no string training. Just come on back. Don't get it confused. What we just went through was basically like the six month grinds. Exactly right. You played 12 games, 14, I think, 14, something like that. Something like that. Yeah, once a week. Yeah, once a week. We did double-header. We did have that one double-header. It was very hot. We then we had a double-header when we won the championship. That was hot. I've never seen guys play two for real World Series, but now we're right back at it this week. We'll be at Vista Sports Complex at 9 a.m. on Sunday, taking on the team we just beat in the championship, the Aztec. So I'm sure they're going to come hungry and ready to play. We'll see if the World Series hangover is real for the tier one baseball team. All right, we've got some riddle report headlines coming up right after a final check of traffic here on 97-3 the fan. And get things started here with our addition today's edition of the riddle report. Now tuned to the Muff. Greatest. Welcome to the Rindel Report with Paul Rindel. Hi Paul. All right. Two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet. We'll start off in major link baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed. Are you laughing beyond? It's the Rindel Report. Hey Paul, how are you doing? Okay, how are you? On 97-3 the fan. Are you ready to blast the mood? I need some help please. That was good. Can I get a hoe here? All right. All right. Paul, you got to Irie Fangeek in the chat says he's in North Park right now. He needs a shout out because he's stranded. He needs to jump. Okay. So I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to give him a jump. Go give him a jump. Well, there's tier ones everywhere, tier one. You get a battery cables and you can and you can give a fellow tier one a jump starts in the area. Find him right now. Just as an aside, Paulie, before you get in. Trust tree. I'm looking at you. If you had to. Well, I wouldn't know how. That's what I'm saying. If you had to jump my car. No idea. I assume there's like, you know, you got those clamps and then you do. I don't know. You don't know where to put it. I don't know where to put it. I would hate to blow up your car accidentally by connecting the anode to the diode or whatever it's supposed to do. I don't know. I'm not a good mechanical engineer. No. Well, maybe. Actually, I can't. I am so, I am so car inept. I don't even know. Is there a compartment where they might be hiding like in the back of my car or somewhere? It's possible. And certainly it's possible. I don't. You just match the colors, man. It's really is that what you do. Just Google it. Watch a YouTube video. Something. I mean, I feel my own washer fluid thanks to a YouTube video. So maybe I could jump start a car. Well, hopefully somebody goes and helps. Irie in North Park right now. Yes. Little update on a story in a mainly baseball. I have triple A. That's what I have. Kill me. Maybe. Little update on story we discussed the other day. We've got some closure on it. Show Hay Otani will not be participating in the home run derby in a couple of weeks. Do you guys see him smoke that kid in the face last night with his home run? Yes. Oh my God. Yeah, I think he should be suspended for the rest of the season. Yeah, for sure. He's egregious. The gambling. He's the gambling. Child abuse. What are we doing here? Man. God. This guy out of the game. Now, he had expressed interest. Like he still wanted to play, but he said I'm going to follow the guidance of the team doctors and what my manager wants. And he said last night through an interpreter, I'm in the middle of my rehab progression, so it's not going to look like I'll be participating. So he's out. It's kind of bummer. I mean, I'd like to see him in it. He's one of the best power hitters in on the planet, and he's only done it once. You know, it's like. Braun never did the dunk contest. So that would have been cool. So stupid. I'd like to see Aaron judge in the home run derby every every year every year. I understand it. It's also, you know, supposed to be time off for them, but you're going to be in the all-star game. Might as well do it. Might as well do it. We're just really hoping it ruins his swing, but something tells me it wouldn't. Probably not. That first guy who actually gets locked in to the home run derby. I'm just feeling so much. I can feel like I'm seeing it so much better now. All those extra reps and goes and hits 50 in the second half of the season. So I'm in the WNBA mode. I'm excited. I'm going to my first WNBA game on Friday night. Very nice. We're going to go up to LA and we'll see the sparks play the Las Vegas aces. Where's the game? Crypto.com. Crypto.com staple center. And so the the aces their home arena is actually the Michelob Ultra Arena at Mandalay Bay. They were playing the Indiana fever yesterday in Vegas. Caitlin Clark draws a huge crowd on the road. So they moved this game from their home arena over to T-Mobile Arena where the gold Knights play and they sold that mother out. Wow. Saw some aerial footage from the top of the arena. Every seat was completely packed. It was an all-time record for that arena. Now the arena is not very old, but nice. Today's episode is sponsored by Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. Nerd wallets experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights. No financial misinformation allowed. Learn how to save on your summer vacation. Find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast app. You don't just live in your home. You live in your neighborhood as well. So when you're shopping for a home, you want to know as much about the area around it as possible. Luckily, Homes.com has got you covered. Each listing features a comprehensive neighborhood guide from local experts. Everything you'd ever want to know about a neighborhood, including the number of homes for sale, transportation, local amenities, cultural attractions, unique qualities, and even things like median lot size and a noise score. Homes.com. We've done your homework. Hey, fantasy football fans. Do you want to be the owner who was doing a crime session the night before the draft? I didn't think so. You need to start your prep now. This is Faraz from Upper Hand Fantasy. Zach and I are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to bust. We've got you covered and give it the upper hand on your friends. Today is the day to start getting ready for the draft. So join us and stay ahead of the competition. Follow and listen to Upper Hand Fantasy on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, my friends, halfway home on a Wednesday, Ben and Woods 97-3, the fan, phenomenal to be here with you this morning. Looks like it's shaping up to be a very beautiful day outside. We are very, very lucky. We know that. I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Reindel, the executive producer Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor joins us as well. And I've got a very special guest joining the program. Yeah, I got a busy hour coming up. I don't forget 835 Nick Huntley is going to be with us. Former Ponderace catcher, now special assistant for the Texas Rangers. But right now it is always a pleasure to welcome our Odyssey colleague, Odyssey MLB inside of Brett Boon. Insider calls are presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry. Granger has the right product for you. Conclitgranger.com or just stop by Brett. Also the host of the Brett Boon podcast, which we were just talking about featuring notable names and MLB and more every single week. Now, I wonder if he gets grief like we get grief when we do the more, you know, like how we like stoop to sports. Shut up, right? Does Brett Boon get the same stuff that they just want baseball content from you, Brett? This isn't Lou Panella. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like you had, you just had on your podcast, a dude I love, John Ashton, he played Taggart in Beverly Hills copies. Been in a bunch of stuff and so many movies, long-storied Hollywood career. And I love that. I like, I like to see you going outside the box there. You know, you got to do a once in a while, don't you? What do you mean? Have to. Who knows who's going to be? Maybe the San Diego chicken tomorrow. You don't know. You do never know. How was John? I'm going to go, I'm going to go listen to that podcast because I, we were just all talking about how much we love the original Beverly Hills Cop. They got the new one coming out today on Netflix. I will 100% stop down and watch that at some point this weekend. Yeah, Johnny's great. I've known John for a lot of years. I remember, I was a rookie in the big leagues and we were in Minnesota and they were shooting this movie. And I think, I think Randy Johnson at the time and Griffey had bit roles and it was that the movie Little Bigly. Little Bigly. Excellent. Johnny was the, he was the bench coach. Yep. And I remember, you know, you know, I'm just a kid and I'm just, you know, I'm trying, I don't know whether I'm coming or going, but we got this big Hollywood set and I'm, you know, I see Taggart and I'm like, oh, that's Taggart. So I started calling him Taggart. He's like, well, no, my name's John. Pretty much got their Taggart. We went out on the town and then, you know, I got to know him a little bit. Years later, I was in San Diego. And I come into the, we're coming to play the Padres. I'm with the Reds and I walk through the bar and, you know, the team bus just got there. I walked through the bar to get to my room. There's Taggart with all the boys and they're shooting a movie. I said, listen, let me go put my stuff down. I'll come back down, you know, I'll have a drink and, you know, we'll catch up and I get down there. He's like, yeah, we're shooting a movie down to, I think they were shooting at Mission Bay. And the producer wants to know, boom, if we get seven tickets tomorrow. Seven. And I said, well, here's the deal. Let's negotiate a little bit. I said, I need a role in this movie here. Produced. And he said, well, what do you want to do? I said, I just want something stupid. I said, but I need it. And here's what I need. When I get to the set, I need a trailer. I don't care how small it is. I need my name outside the trailer. I need a star next to my name. And sure enough, next day, I go down to Mission Bay. I got this trailer. It's as big as a shoe box. It's got my name written in Sharpie. And there's a star on it. I said, hey, we negotiated. I got what I wanted. I played a cop. I had the vinyl, you know, the cops that cops wear. And I had this terrible role, but it was fun. I got to see how it works. I drove this old cop car down the street, you know, Johnny was the star. He got out. He was the undercover copy at the cool clothes on. You know, I've got this linen 1976 cop outfit on, but that's where our, that's where our relationship goes back to. Great guy. What movie? He's over the top excited about this. I think I think it's one of those went straight to video. It's called Fast Money. Fast Money, starring Brett Boone. I am all, I'm all over it. And I'll tell you what, you'd have to. It's streaming somewhere. It's got to be. Yeah, you'd have to rewind it and rewind it again to find out that is booney in the cop car. That's unbelievable. Crazy. I just hold it up. Yeah. When a car thief can't resist stealing one more car, she finds herself in possession of $2.7 million mob money and the mob's counterfeit printing plates. Brett Boone, the 1996. Check it out. I'm in the clown. There's a clown scene. Just Google clown scene. And I'm the guy driving the cop car. Cop car. Crazy. I'm all over it. So as long as we're on the topic, what is your favorite baseball movie? And oh, yeah, like what are like big leaguers? Yeah, what are they really like when it comes to baseball movies? Because we always have this discussion. Well, I don't know if I'm, I'm more cynical than your, your normal big leaguer, but movies, baseball movies drive me crazy. So yes, you are. I percentsative. I just look at it and go, that's not how it really is. How these producers, what do they do? Oh, let's just put tobacco in everybody's mouth and have them spit, you know, really awkwardly because they're actors and they've never had tobacco in their mouth. And that's what ball players do, right? Oh, it drives me nuts. The ghost don't come out of the corn. That's not how it works. Okay, if I'm going to be honest, the most accurate portrayal of a baseball movie I've seen by far is Bull Durham, as far as how the minor leagues actually are with a few caveats. There's one scene where they pull in and then they, he says, hey, you guys want to rain out tomorrow and they go there in the evening and they flood the valley. It doesn't happen. Because you never get to a minor league city the night before because they're not going to whip out for the hotel room. So you're always getting there in the morning. You never get to a minor league. So that pissed me off. So other than that, though, I thought it was pretty good. I thought, you know what bothers me more, Nathan? The way that the actors move as athletes, it's not a real move. They don't move correctly. So that bothers me. Yeah, Tim Robbins. I mean, Tim Robbins can't throw a base, but he's supposed to throw it. James Burt as Serrano in Major League had a pretty decent power swing. Well, and Sheen, Sheen looked like he knew how to pitch. Yeah, he did. He did. But, but you know what, either got to go, you got to look exactly the part or you got to go Tim Robbins, or you got to go Robbins on me, which is, it's so unbelievable that it's funny because it's so far the other way. So I'm going to go with either or, I thought Costner did a pretty good job. I thought he walked the alright. I thought he moved pretty good. Swing wasn't bad at all. So I'm going to give, I'm going to give it a thumbs up. Boulder, my thought was well done. But if you're going to go, my favorite movie, it's the Bad News Bears, without a doubt. So good. Nothing's even close. Math out. In his day, I love Bad News Bears and breaking training tips. So those are my top three. I love that talking to Brett Boone here on Bed and Woods this morning. And you have been busy. I was just looking at your Twitter. So you were just on in Dallas talking about the Rangers last night with the fan there, RJ Choppy and his group. And now you're on talking about the Padres. I said this this morning, Booneie, the last night's game was kind of one of those where, man, I was talking about that nobody likes a loss. If you're a fan of a team, you hate all losses. But there's some that you're like, all right, I'll wear that one. That's fine. Last night was just, you know, I appreciate a good pitching performance as well as anybody. But man, just a two hit shutout. It's just so painful to watch. And the San Diego Padres just kind of looked like they never got off the plane. Yeah, happened certainly. But definitely not a fun, man, what we're not used to that from this team lately. Now, and, you know, see that, see that a rough night. And, but any time you get one of those number one stopper type, type starters in a Baldi, that can happen. And you just chalk it up to that was just one night, bad night. Let's go get them tomorrow. I'm, I'm really impressed with this Padres team's doing, especially with, they've been really banged up lately. I mean, Campasano, he's coming back, Bogart's, I heard, doing a rehab this week. Tatis is not going to be back till after the break. And the two huge ones are must grow up in Darvus. You know, Darvus out much longer than we thought he was going to be. He goes out with the leg injury. And now there's inflammation in his elbow, must grow. You know, they're talking possibly August now. So the fact that you've held serve, and, and are really playing some of the best baseball they've played, one and seven out of the, yeah, seven out of their last 10, I think the Padres in the position they're in, in the playoffs right now, as it stands, if it were over today, with all the injuries and everything going on with the Padres right now, be playing the way they are and be in the playoff line, I think is a, is a testament to, to them and their resilience. You know, they're, they're starting to trend up. They're in top categories, all the offensive categories need to pitch a little bit better, but getting must grow in Darvus, that's huge. I think this Padres team at the break, I think you're going to have to go out because of that, because of the must grow, but it's touchy, and now they're finding, you know, a bone chip. I think you're going to need another pitcher. I think you're going to have to go out there and get another pitcher. I love the bullpen. I love how it sets up to get to Suarez, but I think you're going to have to get a pitcher. I think this Padres team is a playoff team, and I was just talking, you mentioned the Atlanta, or I'm sorry, the Texas show I was just on. I've been thinking a lot about it in the game today and, and the 162, and how it used to be versus 2024, where it's not that marathon it used to be. And we used to finish that 162. And if you won the division, it was a big sigh like, wow, what a grind and, and we're standing right now. Today, it's not like that. There are so many injuries in the game today, and injuries play such a big role in streaks that teams go on or, or teams have a losing streak or a winning streak, because a couple of their big guys are out. Injuries are playing a bigger role than they've ever played in our game. And I think what you do is, it's all about positioning yourself, getting a seat at the table, not necessarily the division where it used to behave. We got to win that division. Yeah, as a player, you're always going to have that mindset. No, we're going to win the division and we're going to get home field advantage, but it's all about getting up to a seat at that table and trying to get your roster in the right spot going into the postseason, because that's what's important now. And then there's so many landmines in the postseason, you've got to go through so many rounds just to get to the World Series. So I don't think it's about necessarily the best team you're going to see going forward, winning that World Series. It's who positioned themselves at the right time, who stayed healthy, and who got on a run, is going to be your World Series champion going forward. And not the old days where that guy that was standing at the top of the hill at the end of 162 usually went on and won that World Series. I don't think that's going to be the case anymore. Just getting a seat at the table and getting right time. Talking Odyssey, MLB insider Brett Boone, again, insider calls presented by Granger with supplies and solutions for every industry Granger has the right product for you. Call click ranger.com or just stop by. I wanted to ask you about Bruce Bocey, manager of the Rangers now. Obviously, you played for him. I know you love Boce because everybody loves Boce. I love Boce. I love covering him everything about him. But what what is it? Because Bruce Bocey has had a bunch of bad seasons in his managerial career. This one, I don't know how it's going to turn out, but obviously the Rangers have gotten off to a really slow start. But when he's had those chances with the with the Giants, with the with the Rangers, even taking the Padres to the World Series, he always seems to get the most out of the teams that that do have those opportunities. The ones that are there. What is it about Boce and about good managers that that just that little bit extra that they get the most out of their best teams? I hate Boce. No, he he is. Okay, what I want to say at first is is the manager can only do so much. And that's obvious. You know, I year in and year out, I see it. Oh, that manager is not doing good. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't make the right. It's nonsense. Once the national anthem ends, there's only so much you can do. You can get the left, you have to get the right, whatever, handle the media. A computer can do that. The great managers, I think, are people. They manage people. They're like a great CEO. It doesn't mean everybody's got to love you. It doesn't mean everybody's got to hate. You have a knack. You have a way about you. You get that hit. In fact, you get the best out of your players. You put your players in the best position to succeed. Boce is a little beyond that for me. He's a great manager, but he's got that factor where, you know, I always think as a manager, you've got to separate yourself from the players. And usually that's via bench coach who is kind of the go-between between the manager and the players. I think as a bench coach, you're the players. Everybody's your friend. You know, you get intel. You go around. You make sure everybody's feeling okay. And you can have that closer relationship with the players. As a manager, I always say you've got to distance yourself a little bit because he's going to be making big decisions. He's going to piss you off at some point in the season. Who knows? He might be the one that has to tell you you're going to AAA. He might have to be the one telling you we traded you. So I think there's a buffer in between Boce different than anyone I ever played for. He had a real close relationship with the players, which I thought was kind of taboo, but it worked for him. He's just a special, special guy that, you know, you mentioned, you mentioned Ben that nobody has anything bad to say about Boce. There's only a handful of people I've come across in my career where that's the case. And it is the case. I don't think everybody says nobody. Everybody loves them. Well, truly everybody that has ever met Bruce Boce. I really haven't ever heard a negative word about him. He's got that. He's a great manager. He's a baseball manager, a knowledgeable man. He was a backup catcher, so he knows the grind of the season. It didn't come easy to him, so he has that perspective. But he's also got a fatherly best friend, grandfather type appeal to people where you just love him. He's kind of like a dusty baker. Everybody loves dusty. He's just got that way about him, and he has that ability to also be close with the players, but still be their disciplinary guy, and still be a guy. I think because everybody that comes in contact with him, they just have that level of respect kind of above and beyond. So he's that unicorn, I think when it comes to managers, he's the last of that probably old school breed that we grew up watching. He's just a special special man, and I really can't put my finger on why he's able to do that. But he's been the one manager that I play for, that man I could play for. I could go over for four with a couple of punch outs, make an error in a big situation. And after the game, he was my buddy for some reason, and he didn't make an awkward feeling. It's a special thing that he was born with, and not too many people have. Boce always appreciated it. We thank you so much for making time, and so much that you have throughout the season. We will chat with you again, coming up after the holidays. You got it. Thanks, brother. Redbone always our insider calls presented by Granger supplies and solutions for every industry Granger is the right product for you. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. We've got to take a quick time out. Can we talk a little bit more about Boce when we come back just because I thought Brett Boone had some interesting insight there. Got Nick Hunley at the bottom of the hour as well, so you don't want to miss any of that. Can I ask him about Boce too? Absolutely. Another guy who played for Boce. Another catcher who played for Boce there as well. Works with him now and works to it the Rangers at the moment. So we'll get to all that after Kelly's traffic here at 97-3 the fan. Baseball coverage in 97-3 the fan is presented by T-Mobile. Switch to T-Mobile. You can get tons of benefits still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon. Use their savings calculator to find how at T-Mobile.com/switch. Our thanks again to Brett Boone, our Odyssey insider. And I was fascinated with him talking about what separates Bruce Boce. So question for you. Boce has 26 full seasons under his belt as a big league manager. This is his 27th year. Do you think Boce has more winning seasons or losing seasons as a manager? Because you're asking me, I'm going to say losing. You know me pretty well. It's actually 13 and 13. You see at 13 winning seasons, 13 losing seasons and an overall record. He's about I think it's about 15 games under 500 in his entire career like 2,130-something wins, 2,140-something losses. He was here for a while. Well, but he also had a bunch of losing seasons in San Francisco. He won three World Series titles. He also had seven losing seasons in San Francisco. Wow. It's not just the time with the Padres. Boce is an undoubted Hall of Famer, right? Slam dunk. Slam dunk. When he retires, he is going to the Hall of Famer as a manager in baseball. No one has any question about that. None. He has a losing record. And if they don't turn it around this year, he's going to have more losing seasons than winning seasons. And this is the cream of the crop. This is the best, you know, of the best. This is a guy who will be talked about with Joe Torrey and some of the legendary managers of baseball, the guys who have done it better than anyone. And even he can't overcome rosters that don't have enough talent, injuries, whatever. And you are always saying you put it on the players more than the manager. Is that not the perfect example that even Bruce Boce, the guy that everyone in baseball admires, respects, agrees as a Hall of Famer has three World Series, four World Series rings now. He still doesn't even have a winning record in this game because it's that hard to do it, especially if you don't have the players. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, that's why, yeah, you're right. That's why I do always kind of put it on the players and really the GM, of course, takes, takes, gets a lot of credit, takes a lot of the blame for the players that, you know, you can only get so much, so much out of guys that, you know, you look at a guy like Kevin Cash. And I think he's a really good manager as well. Never had a high payroll to work with. You wonder, you wonder would Kevin Cash, if you stuck him in New York managing the Mets, would he, would he be as good? Would he be the same Bob Melvin was so good with those young, talented Oakland A's teams, he gets here. There's a, the, the open, you know, checkbook, doesn't actually do that. Great. Gets us further than we've, we've gone in a while, but ran out of pitching then too. And, and you know, how much credit should he get? How much blame should he get? The, the, the person that's always quickest to blame the manager or the hitting coach, I just, I've always looked at that person and said, man, a hitting coach, it can only take you so far. A manager can only take you so far. You have to execute, you know, you do. And, and personal responsibility is, is really a, quite a thing in the game. I mean, I look at Vocha's career and he's truly only had probably about seven really good teams. Yeah. And he turned four of those into World Series titles. He turned one of them into a World Series appearance with the Padres in 98. The other ones, I would say 96 Padres were really good. Obviously they lost right away in the playoffs. I think the 2006 Padres, his last season, they won 88 games, but lost that stupid series to St. Louis, to start the playoffs. And they had another decent Giants team in 2016, but 87 wins. And then the Rangers won that he just had. Yeah. The rest of them, he's had tons of mediocre teams that just weren't that good. Yeah. But when he had the chance, he got the most out of him in October. So he's what? Four for five in the World Series? Is that right? He's four for five in the World Series. Yeah. And in the playoffs, he's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine playoff appearances in 26 years. Wow, man. But four of them ended in World Series title. That's, that's the dream right there. And yeah, I mean, and, and if you asked him, if you gave him truth, sir, look, what do you do differently? He'd be like, I don't know. That run in San Francisco will boggle my mind maybe forever. I was living my college roommates were all from the Bay Area. Yeah. Massive Giants fans. And just the fact that they would win the World Series, miss the playoffs. Yes. When the World Series, terrible year, when the world's like, that's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Kind of happening in Texas. That's exactly right. Could the exact same thing could happen. Might miss the playoffs. You know, you know, I've always gotten the sense of, I've known a lot of, you know, a lot of people that, that played for him, know a lot of people that have worked with him, heard him. Yeah, met him a couple of times. I've heard a million stories about him. You get the sense though. He's not when, when Boonie compared him to Dusty Baker, I don't think the comparison was like, they're the same type of manager. They have the same type of stature, but Dusty Baker is a high energy at the end. Chew it on the toothpick, ready to go. Boonie's just like, all right, whatever. Just says, and it's almost, you look at him and go, do you do like, what do you do? He's just chill. Like he's just a chill guy. Like he's not a high energy pacing back and forth. Like, let's go. He's not a raw, raw guy. Just guys for whatever reason. You can go get him. So yeah, he's just a guy you want to play for. He, yes, he does what the greatest leaders do. He makes you feel disappointed if you don't come through for him. Not through anything he really does. It's just like, I don't want to let Boach down. 100%. Because I like him so much. Yeah, and that's all he really has to do. Exactly. He's there and it's like, everyone else just decides, I've got to play well because Boach is here. I mean, bro, you think about like, what could, what would he have done in the, with the Padres of the last couple of years? I don't know. I mean, I thought Bob Melvin was the absolute solution. Hands off, players manager, let them do brilliant psychologists, probably nothing different. I don't think they would have been much different. I don't think so either. Well, we got another guy who played for Boach and Nick Hundley is going to join us. He's also a special assistant to Chris Young, the GM of the Texas Rangers will catch up with Hundley when we return with Ben Woods, a 97-3 the fan. Said last night on Channel 10 that the Texas Rangers haven't exactly looked like defending World Series champions this year until last night. They very much looked like the defending World Series champions. They did it without Corey Seager. They did it with a great pitching performance by Nathan Evaldi and they just beat up on Dylan C. So we got Nick Hundley standing by. He's special assistant to Chris Young, former Padres catcher going to join us right after this check of traffic on 97-3 the fan. Yeah, I've told you Woods that in my now what 25, almost 30 years covering the Padres, there have been certain players that have always been kind of nervous about approaching per interviews and in the clubhouse. Our next guest is not one of them. I always enjoyed conversations with Nick Hundley. He just was really friendly. He was he's just more approachable than most and I want to say thank you to Nick. I appreciated that when he was a player and now he's joining us right now here on Ben and Woods on 97-3 the fan. Hi Nick, how are you? Hey, what's up guys? I hope I don't blow that, blow that credit with this interview. Oh, I have no worries. He's gonna you're gonna be just fine. How about when you were playing Nick, what was the worst thing that media did? Like what was the worst question that they asked you? Was it the hey what were you looking for on that pitch or was it the tell us about your approach there? Because I watch those and it still happens like on a regular basis and I'm just like well obviously he's looking for a pitch to hit something to drive you know out of the ballpark and look for a pitch to hit and drive something out of the ballpark I guess right? Yeah, it would be tough because there was times when you'd played you know early in the series you'd be playing the Dodgers and you're playing the Dodgers next week and then you're playing them 18 more times and like hey what were you looking for against Chad Billingsley? Like well I'm going to taste Chad Billingsley for four or five more times this year so I'm not going to answer that truth. I'm not going to tell you anything. Now Ben certainly we have gone through the the people that Ben was scared of and he asked me he was probably at the top of the list for some reason he's like the nicest like dude ever but Ben was terrified of him but he always said yeah you you were really really sneer after the games it just kind of was off-putting. I don't know. He's he's great. Some guys look man. Some guys get it and some guys don't. Some guys get the get the the job and some guys don't want to be bothered by you know slappies like us in there. And it's part it's definitely part of the job for sure so you you know what you're signing up for. So tell me about the job right now with the Texas Rangers and working with with CY as general manager obviously last year was just uh an unbelievably magical season but what would you say what what are you kind of doing and what's your role right now with the Rangers. Yeah right now it's a lot of draft stuff. I'll be with the team in Anaheim and then go back to Dallas for the draft and you know just work through some of the catchers that we're looking at some of the amateur guys I've probably seen about eight to ten guys live and just kind of in our in our little pocket and you know I really enjoy that side of it now with how important the draft is. You look at you know you can look at what the what the Padres are doing with with Jackson Merrill and then that same draft class they they draft James Wood and now and Gasser and all of a sudden you look up and you know you know got a guys potentially rookie of the year and and two guys you traded for for generational talents so it's pretty it's pretty fun uh fun month of month of July so with the draft and the and the trade deadline so this is really really busy for me and then just give my opinion and then uh and then uh then head back to San Diego. Yeah it's kind of the best of both worlds I would imagine for for an ex-player with a family uh talking to Nick Hundley here on Bennett Woods this morning you know I ran into you uh over at the play structure and we were we're talking about that and you know I can't imagine like for Boach I know it was hard for him he wanted he was like I don't know if I'm ready to go back and and do this every day grind I can't imagine having to like be with the team every day when you got a young family at home and I think this feels like for you a really really good fit. Yeah I'm fortunate you know uh and even even the guys um in Dallas too Chris does a really good job of fostering community and fostering uh the importance of family I mean he is three awesome kids he loves his family loves to be around them um you know hires guys like Boach and Will Venable and and things like that that that foster um so love that they have for their families too and uh and build that community that way so to be able to to be a dad and still be involved and and have a voice um and be able to to give my opinion and connect with COI and the rest of our front office group that's been amazing so I'm very thankful the last two years to be able to do this for sure. Do you think this is uh Chris Young's calling as general manager I always thought that he might be the next commissioner of baseball. Us yeah we all did. Some days well after working in the office he he may be he may be too um you know even minded and for that job at this this role but tell me just a little more about CY and what you think of him and what his futures is in store. So I think to see what I can do whatever he wants to do you know I think he's he's proven that in the short time um going from the league office to running a team to you know um to win a World Series in the short time and obviously he's not the only one involved there's a lot of foundation late by by John Daniels and and the group um upon him but but Chris is just uh a different type of leader. You can connect with with people in A-ball you can connect with ownership you can connect with with um people doing ticket sales uh security guards he just has a real respect for people and serves people really well and has high standards so I mean I can tell you stories for days about playing with Chris and and the standards we had and and get himself ready um and the standards that he had for his teammates and getting them ready and uh and what he needed out of people around him what he needed out of me catching him I learned a lot um I was really really fortunate coming up with guys like Trevor Hoffman and Greg Maddox and CY and David Eckstein and those types of guys that that showed me how to prepare and actually be a big leader on what what an actual day looked like in the big leagues before the game and after the game um and he was he was the top of that top of that list so I learned more about preparing to play a majorly baseball game from Chris Young than anybody which is pretty pretty interesting to say because as a starting pitcher that's not usually the case. That's pretty incredible stuff talking to uh Nick Conley here on Ben & Woods this morning and you know the the I kind of at the beginning of the year we do the normal sports radio thing and all right where do you think everybody's gonna finish and I I had the Rangers uh you know the hangover the World Series hangover certainly real and Ben was going over some of the numbers uh yesterday before the series started and said I really can't put my finger uh on why they haven't played as well as maybe they should not get on base it's not getting on base right now but man you got some good young talent Wyatt Langford's one of my favorite players to watch him I watched him hit for the cycle the other night I'm like what an absolute beast he is and Corey Seager of course I mean gold standard type player world series MVP an absolute for us at least Garcia I love my kids love him like what a good team that you guys have put together just hasn't materialized yet and there I think there's still plenty of time to turn it around but what have you kind of seen yeah I think I think all of those things are true I think um you know we've been banged up I think Josh Young has played three games fourth four games worth and the way that he was I mean starting the starting the all-star game last year he would have would have probably been I would say probably one of the one the rookie of the year if he didn't break his thumb last year obviously Gunnar Henderson is an amazing player too so nothing take away from him but um I would have voted for him if he was able to stay healthy so he's uh an absolute all-star um star in this game having not having him not having Evan Carter um who bursts on the scene another talking about draft coming up you know the second round pick from the from uh from the range just a couple years ago um and then you know having a little bit of under-performance at times guys fluctuating a little bit there's it was about a a month month period where kind of everybody wasn't hitting on all cylinders which you know it happens sporadically through the year but when it's a concentrated point where a lot of guys aren't makes a little tougher to win but you know the way that we've been taking it that's the last couple weeks has been a lot more in line with with who we are and uh that's really encouraging you know like you look at the the game last night you know Dylan Seast throwing 98 with with two really good breaking balls and we're able to to not expand and take pitches at the margins and win those pitches and getting good counts and and uh you know thankfully we we did some damage on some on some mistakes but the only do that if you take those take those marginal pitches and for a guy who strikes out 200 guys a year to take those marginal pitches against is really really tough so that was an encouraging zone yeah it was a lot of fun for us too watching that first one is super fun that first marginal pitch to Nathaniel was strike three marginal pitch whatever it's fine you still got a score to win little y through him that changed up after that sorry we don't need to relitigate yesterday's game we're talking to the company uh Ranger Special Assistant former pottery and you mentioned doing some scouting now of good young catchers you were obviously a top young catching prospect a second round draft pick when you came out and I I don't know how much film you've seen but I was wondering if you had any perspective from outside the pottery's organization on Ethan Salas someone who we keep hearing about and you know they just talk about what amazing skills he's got for a 17 year old kid you know plan and in high high A went to double A for a little while last year but kind of struggling offensively maybe expected what's the talk around the league about Ethan Salas yeah he's he's impressive you know actually one of our uh Brett Bocey is uh is working with the Rangers now the scout um and he covers a lot of uh the west coast so I talked to him a lot and then um you know I know Riley Westman for for a long time a couple years now um talking to him about Ethan too um he can really really catch and really throw and the thing that I love you know the the thing that I love about catchers I love watching their pace and their heart rate and when there's big situations I was fortunate to play with Buster Posey for two years I feel like I saw the game speed up him up on him one time in two years like he's just heart rate and he just plays with his pace or he just dominated the game because it's it's such a tough game and it'll speed up on everybody but when you have a catcher who's in a leadership position who uh who's in big spots and they're their heart rate is low it's such a such an incredible trait to have and I think that's what Jonah Heim has our catcher in Texas Gold Glover and you know started the all-star game last year his pace and his heart rate is so good that when you're in the world series and the bases are loaded and the role this Chapman's doing and too they're like if I'm catching that situation my heart rate is really high and I might be chasing it back to the back stop but Jonah's not Buster's not and it looks like the pace that Ethan Salas plays at it looks like for me is watching him like he's not going to be chasing that ball like he's going to control that game so all the skills and all that stuff aside all the youth playing at the higher higher level above his above his age all that stuff aside I just really like the pace that he plays with that's such good information talking to Nick Henley here last one for me I mean you see it a lot on Twitter and you see a lot uh you hear it a lot and you know people are I don't understand why these catchers now you know the catching position has changed certainly and there's a new there's a new way that's being taught you know the glove down the kind of steel one and we watched Ethan do it brilliantly when we were at spring training I could have watched him do catching drills all day but the position has changed Nick it changed from when I was a kid you know what I mean and how if you as a catcher former catcher adapted to maybe teaching a little bit way a different way to do it yeah how much time do you have we got about five minutes left yeah I mean so we'll start up when when um umpires weren't graded as as hard right now with the Z system like these umpires are graded so difficulty they they get every single pitch they and a lot of them I mean we can go into a tangent on ABS and all that stuff too but umpires have gotten so good at calling um balls and strikes with the system that they're graded some guys are shooting 98 99 hundred percent so um you can't they can't when I came up if you would move the ball umpires would ding you like crazies like hey don't do that it makes me look bad catch the ball hold it so I can see it like if you move the ball at all like you get crushed by umpires and when I came up like Greg Maddox told me when I came up don't move like if you set the target up and you move it it's like me standing over ball ready to like on a tee and ready to tee off and like in my back swing you yelling at me so don't like literally don't move so I was like a statue I was like oh my gosh can I even breathe like this is a Hall of Famer but I don't want to get sent down tomorrow like please like throwing to me you know so um now that the umpires are graded so heavily like you can move the ball as much as you want and they can't hold that against you right so your goal is to catch her is to make the ball that's two inches below the zone look exactly the same as ball that's one inch above the zone so I'm going to catch it the exact same way I'm going to pull it up the I'm going to try to pull it up the exact same way so these small margins when Dylan Cease is doing 89 mile an hour sliders and 98 mile an hour fastballs like these small marginal pitches I want to make those look exactly the same um and then probably talking through one knee down stances like that um guys are throwing so hard now that the sliders the splits like Evo made of all the last night was throwing 89 mile a split 93 mile an hour cutters like if I'm in a traditional stance where I'm don't have one knee down I'm playing higher the the level that I play at is a lot higher than than if I have one knee down so it's a lot easier to block all the all the blocking metrics when it first came out is like well how are you going to block in these in a one knee down stance and all the blocking metrics and passball metrics are so much better now um than they were when most guys want traditional stances um just because you're playing lower to the ground you're playing uh you don't have to exert as much effort to block that ball to receive the low pitch things like the act and and we have an amazing catching coach and Bobby Wilson who is one of the one of the leaders at that teaching the one knee down stance um so one I'm firing two uh velocity and then three just longevity and health I think it's a lot easier on your body um to be in that position as opposed to being in in a traditional squat for such a long period of time throughout the season so there's a lot of a lot of positive things about it um like any revolution that takes place there's gonna be a lot of pushback and a lot of traditional traditional uh let's say oh that doesn't look right that's not the way to do it but at the end of the day like I like flat screen tv's I like replay I like planes like I like all those things like let's continue to advance you know yeah I like advancements as well that was amazing great stuff we could probably continue on if we had more time we don't but uh promise you'll you'll come and do this again with this uh real soon maybe in studio at some point if you're when you're in town yeah I'll think yeah we were all popped in there with you guys that'd be awesome man thank you so much yeah thank you all right Nick hundley I got some stuff to react to on that when we come back final hour of Bennett Woods get around the report ahead as well don't go away more on the way here on San Diego's number one sports station 97-3 the fan thanks again to Nick hundley just joined us that was a fun conversation final hour of Bennett Woods here on a Wednesday heading into the fourth of july holiday now of course everything that Nick hundley said about catcher framing I thought that was fascinating about when he pitched umpires would get mad if he tried to frame now everybody does it but of course that could all go away as soon as next season if they decide to go to an automated ball strike robot umpire system framing will have zero value at all it'll either be a ball or a strike you can catch it ugly catch it soft and pretty and it won't make the bit of difference in all this work that these catchers have done for years and years on framing and you know you know how they show it to the umpire will make no difference whatsoever I'm not saying that's a bad thing I'm just saying that's a lot of work that's been put in that could be completely eradicated by one rule change yeah and I don't know that they're discussing full-on robo um so right it's more of what they're discussing that may not be what is implemented sure okay with the challenge system then I really am because last night higgy on that lap on that pitch and the first inning would have tapped his helmet and boom strike three year out and I'm fine with the challenge the challenge is fine I don't know how many you do I don't know how you keep it moving whatever I know that's the most important thing in baseball now to get it over with as far as the commissioner's office is concerned but I don't think you'll ever I don't know that you'll ever see full robo I really don't if only we had someone smart they could discuss this with us further oh how about that in fact we do have someone smart and because tomorrow is a holiday our usual thursday guest gonna join us a little bit earlier right now on a Wednesday it's time for the super polish just to be named smart baseball weekly segment with Eno Harris saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the bay in chula vista here's Eno saris with Benin woods on 97 3 the fan happy independence day to you Eno what's on the the barbecue menu at the Harris or saris home my my little secret is and this is going to discuss some people but it's really good a tiny bit of fish sauce a little bit of soy sauce and then I mix like it's like three quarters beef one quarter pork cool Eno knows umami this is what yeah this is smart that new mommy player yeah oh all right i thought you were going to say you use mayo to put the burgers together which i have heard is really really good the extra money yeah it binds it yeah and it's a little you know a little fatty in there and a good flavor i think that'd be a decent i may try that myself let's uh let's yeah i'll do that you do yours with fish sauce on it and we can compare don't disparage the fish sauce it's in a lot of things you like you just don't know it's in there you don't put a lot of it yeah you don't put a lot of it in it it's not it's not like you would separate it out if you're eating it i love a good fish burger i like my beef to taste like fish every time if i have the opportunity don't i can tell you try it that's fair enough so you know we were just talking with Nick Conley and about framing and then you know the idea of the the automated ball strike system came up how do you see it playing out how does major league baseball get a handle this because obviously that discussion is not going away anytime soon yeah i think it's going to be the challenge system like you see in tennis um and um i think that's the best outcome because it's fun uh for the viewers in tennis when they when they challenge a double fault um you know they go to the big board immediately everyone looks at it there's limited amount of challenges you look at the board and the crowd goes oh and they watch the ball bounce you know and there's like an audience participation portion of it so the challenge system is you have three challenges the batter has to challenge immediately there's no looking over to the manager to see if they should challenge um and you only have three for the game so you have to kind of hold on to them but that means no huge you can't lose the game on a bad call you know there's no uh you know if you have the bases loaded in the eighth or something then you you can challenge it um and it's immediate and there's audience participation the reason i don't like abs as it is now is that walks and strikeouts went through the roof in the minor leagues when they instituted it um and their only sort of recompense has been to shrink the strike zone and walks and strikeouts are still kind of high and then um lastly like i i think there could be unintended consequences i think of third year romo and rich hill throwing frisbees and these huge 12 to sixers that hit the plate that the catcher catches two feet outside the strike zone but nick the strike zone and make the light go green and uh i'm not sure that i want baseball to sort of you know end up in that direction yeah and i i've always been of the opinion that it doesn't have to be perfect it doesn't and i know it's recency bias and everything you know but i mean i i'm seeing some lately that is you know the catcher may move his glove a little bit but the ball's down the middle i mean it's 96 at at the not even at the top of the zone it's down the middle and these guys are missing and i understand how hard it is you know your eyes can only catch up these guys are throwing nastier stuff than they ever have before but i do think that you know there's some some way to do it where everybody is happy i mean but then again we're talking about baseball that can't decide on you on a uniform baseball that it works for everybody's happy right yeah no i don't think that's never exactly and one thing that we have seen with the umpires is that since we've had the machines uh the umpires have been trained by the machine and so i i know this was kind of hard to hear but the umpires are doing the best they've ever done yeah yeah it's true numbers it's true i think mike and it's it they're pretty good it's like a 95 percent sort of thing so it's not you know it's not it may feel sometimes like they're guessing but you know they're they're actually pretty good i think if the system is implemented as you said with the challenges i guess my my concern or i i would just assume that with as competitive as teams are if the astros found a way to cheat stealing signals you can see instantly if it's a ball or strike some way some teams gonna figure out how to get that information to either the hitter or the catcher to make those seemingly instantaneous challenge decisions to know that they're going to be right a hundred percent of the time when they do challenge yes yes you're right they're gonna have somebody uh there there is actually right now a battle over whether the strike zone box is allowed on the ipad uh that's in the in the dugout so the umpires complained that players were using the strike zone box on the uh on the picture they could watch on the ipad um to to argue with the the umpires yeah uh because of the umpires yeah yeah umpires add to the box uh to be taken off and then the players union uh fought back and now the boxes are back but maybe um if they do have a challenge system you are not allowed to have boxes um on those pitches on the ipad interesting stuff talking to you know saris here on benefits this morning and uh you know you saw trade this morning erin svali going from the uh raised to the brewers uh for an infielder kind of your your thoughts on that are the rays trading from a position of depth here or they just doing what the rays do and just moving guys i i looked up his numbers they're nothing to write home about but i'm sure you know every team needs arms every team needs innings eaten uh you know what was your kind of take on that and do you expect some more arms to be moved and if so who i mean they have a couple of guys coming back from injury in jeffrey springs and jerethnathan they're in a really tough division so it could just be an early sell um you know the they're at 500 but they're you know they're fourth in their division um and um you know erin svali hasn't turned out exactly as they'd hoped he's a kind of a bad fast wall guy with good breaking balls uh they thought they could coax um you know you know three really good breaking balls out of there and i think um sometimes these breaking balls blend together and so i think there's just been uh they they traded calman zarda who was thought of as a pretty good hitting prospect who struggled a little bit in the major leagues and has tried so far in cleveland um but they don't they don't look backwards and you know like oh god we got to hold on to erin svali because we traded calman zarda for him they do have a little bit of aj and then where they're just like nope next next move next move is this you know and so they have shane baz um who was at one point one of the best pitching prospects and the minors he's lost a little bit due to injury but he's ready to go so they're just going to stick shane baz in there and keep on trucking and the next person goes down hopefully you know one of their returning guys from injuries is back and you know they also want to think beyond this year so if they trade him for somebody they have next year then that's so much the better for them they always do they always think beyond this year always we are a little different here in san diego and uh we've been talking about how creative our general manager is going to have to be there's you know there's money constraints there's prospect constraints kind of how do you see uh potentially in your gut the trade deadline for the san diego pottery shaping up yeah the crochet thing is a super interesting because you can get care crochet is probably the jewel of the deadline um because he's got years of control he throws 97 he looks like an ace and he's in chicago with the white socks and they they're not going to be good in the next two three years while they have him the problem is that the most innings he's ever thrown before this year is 60 now he's at 95 or 100 um and every inning after this is sort of stepping into the unknown what if you trade for him and you have to shut him down for the playoffs or you have to turn into a reliever or whatever it is um you know that would that would affect your short term but the nice thing is you have him for the next couple of years uh so it wouldn't just be a deadline acquisition um and if there's anybody that i think would maybe uh quote-unquote throw caution to the wind um it might be a day and just say hey you know let's we're gonna let Garrett pitch as much as he feels good you know we're doing that right now with michael king in a way you know and so um you might just he might just roll the dice there and maybe he can acquire crochet for a little bit less than you'd expect given all these questions about how many innings you will you'll actually give him the best otherwise is uh like a jack flarity rental from the tigers um or you know you kind of wait for the rangers to fall out and do a max shows are rental um but uh the clear the clear jewel is is crochet talking to you know sarah's from the athletic here and with James wood making his major league debut on monday a lot of people revisiting once again the 2022 padre's nationals one soto trade and and i imagine we're gonna be doing this for decade to come we don't have to though we don't want to it's our show i know we don't have to we don't have to do it and in some ways it's it's impossible to ever really do it i mean you can you know how do you i mean you can just go straight like war for war and and who who gave you more in the future but you can't really you can't really do that because you know players then turn into other players like the padre's did with one soto and can't take away a nationally championship appearance a series appearance does that happen without one soto have no idea so it really is impossible even after the fact to truly evaluate a trade i'm sorry you know and if you were going to go back and look for it you were gonna you would have to like you'd have to realize that you know James wood had like a 50 40 chance of turning out to be even now uh that he looks so good he's in the big league he still has a sort of 50 50 shot of of being a great player you know and so you have to think about the sort of probability of each thing and it does look like that trade for soto you know a lot of the players that he traded away in that trade are turning out to be on the better end of their probabilities you know cda rooms might be one of the worst defensive shorts off some big leagues but he looks pretty good on offense and he's super young and they haven't forever the Kinsey gore turned out to be one of the better versions of himself i think you know it's it's lining up to be like okay you know they they did a good job in that trade but they were also trading you know a few years of one of the best hitters on the planet and yeah the padre's got something out of it too so you know one thing that just sort of boggles my mind is that you know Jackson Merrill's you know in center field playing really well and looking like a maybe even a future star himself and they traded away so many guys and they still have a guy like Jackson Merrill so you know the playbook is clear for Preller is just keep restocking the cupboard and keep trading them away and and hold on to a couple of them maybe even current star for Jackson Merrill you're nationally rookie of the month that's right of this this morning you know you have a very good fourth of july holiday good weekend and we'll talk to you again next week all right thanks god you know sera so the athletic or smart baseball segment brought to you by seven mile casino joe your fish burger you know it doesn't really taste like fish do i put it in there it it's it's just kind of amplifies the flavor of other things right wouldn't it be meat sauce then hmm well i mean it is made from fish overly beef oils just an accurate name wouldn't you want your beef to taste more like beef like you like beef oil you love chilula right yeah love chilula it's got that kind of what mochi kind of you say sometimes smells like feet a little bit yeah that's what fish sauce is it's got that extra kind of foot kind of funk to it it just makes everything taste better okay i mean if you like this taste of smelly feet then yes it sounds like it's right i think you do which i i think you do i could be all right poly's got round a report coming up we'll look ahead to the match up tonight uh pod rays rangers game two of the series all ahead after a check traffic you're a 97 three the fan pod rays like most teams are in need of starting pitching depth i brought up a name during the break that woods did not seem interested in but yesterday the texas rangers uh parted ways well i guess johnny quato opted out of his minor league deal with the texas rangers now johnny quato is over the hill he's not the johnny quato that was really good picture by the way for sit good good chunk of time back in the 2010s johnny quato was one of the top pitchers in the national league for a while it's not that anymore but you know he's got his experience and if he's healthy there's a team that's going to want to take a flyer i would think at some point on johnny quato here yard barker uh which is a baseball website as them uh has him potentially helping out the san francisco giants which he has a long history back there the new york metz and the boston red socks so i i don't know i mean are we in a position to turn down anyone at this point on a on a minor league deal uh i think the answer to that question is no but doesn't blow my hair i will say that any time you pair a picture with rubin the abler there is some intrigue there because there's a track record of whatever magic that rubin the abler has working i mean look at uh big fudge your new favorite love big fudge uh austin davis yeah uh and and the changes they've i've seen some side-by-side videos uh some of the pod race twitter accounts from 2022 versus 2024 and just the incredible amount of extra movement he's getting now i mean coach fudge yeah yeah coaching does make a difference do we not learn enough though from richill last year someone just jack said uh smells like dick mountain all over that it absolutely does that's true too it absolutely absolutely feels like a different version of dick mountain and uh i that was excruciating to watch i don't know how you guys feel about it but that was it's arietta it's dick mountain it gives me it gives me like panic attack feeling trying to remember last year didn't have a ton of major injuries to our rotation right certainly not our our top two guys so you know agie kind of went around the margins the year we got arietta all the injuries happened right after the trade deadline yeah like right after like the day after the trade deadline so we were kind of screwed there that's when you had to go get jake arietta in august off waver you know whatever vince of elasquez so now aj knows and he knows better than us what the future holds for this season with darvish and muskrove in particular like he knows he's got to go out and make some moves yeah i don't think there's any question uh janeen who is just my favorite she's incredible in the chat she was i don't know ceas is pretty awful to watch too he has his uh moments he has his moments in my in my mind when i watch dylan ceas i go all right he may be off to a rough start he gave up a two-run homer in the first the the reasoning i had with myself was at least he's throwing 98 i mean he's up there he's gassing it up there if he can hone it if he can figure out and a little mechanical adjustment whatever but they they pounded him really really good last night they really really got to him uh and did as nick undley said a lot of damage off him a lot of doubles a lot of home runs i mean everything was for extra vases last night but you know i just i don't i don't watch dylan ceas and i'm not filled with rage like i was when i watched rich hill pitch you know rich hill story 61 miles an hour up there and i'm going i'm kind of like my chilt i mean i know dylan ceas hasn't been perfect but i'm not worried about dylan ceas he i'm not he's got the stuff still i mean he'll be on or he won't yeah but i'd rather have him out there than honestly and i know it sounds like i'm such a hater but today's starter again not a major is getting a another chance oh boy because the pod race don't have any better options i hope he's not pitching again because he's done so well he's pitching again because the pod race don't have any other options i hope mr and mrs. major do not listen to the venet woods program i'm sorry for his vitriol about your son and i don't know if johnny quittle would be a better option right now than adam major can i say no can i just say no can i say no you wouldn't be necessarily wrong but there's got to be someone out there that's not that you don't have to give up your entire farm system for they could be an upgrade right now over adam major now adam major in in a couple of months or next season or in two years might be a really decent fine starting picture but he's not there yet and the pod race right now are three games above 500 in a massive battle with all kinds of teams for a playoff spot and they continue every fifth or sixth day to hand the ball to someone who's not quite ready to be a a regular big league starter it's too bad we're not on tomorrow because he's gonna shove tonight he's going to absolutely shove i hope he doesn't be left with egg on your face adam major gonna shove against the texas rangers i forgot about i had forgotten about when southern ben out of nowhere one day popped up an authentic show here in dallas the texas rangers texas the texas rangers here with my family and my family where would where was that from i wasn't asked to do a southern accident just got to pop down you just did it you just did it and i we said did you just do a southern accent it's very very good that was in march march much of in the the tier one tour maybe we were talking about the rangers yeah let's hear it again the texas rangers yee-haw that is on the leave of the texas range up my ten gallon texas hat on right talking about my texas rangers the texas rangers that was so good it's so good you're like a chameleon wherever you go that's where you are adam major tonight and uh against john grey who you had the numbers i think earlier twelve and very successful twelve and six two nine nine on it maybe them one out of every three times maybe this will be one of the three that they actually get john grey yeah it feels like you're gonna need more than you know a runner to offensively to win this game tonight yes you wanted uh what did you say that they've scored one run in their last 19 innings after scoring 20 runs in their previous 13 innings feast or famine again since we were we were felt like we were climbing out of the feast or famine hole we were right back in it it's like they like woke up no day and they're like oh just because games above 500 just because your feasting doesn't mean you're out of the feast or famine cycle yeah listen i knew they weren't going to feast the entire rest of season but a snack or two in the middle of it you know if you're not feasting have a meal can you go from eight nine eleven runs to four six four five whatever fine right is it always happy yeah twelve no thirteen one i mean it's last season that's last season as well exactly right right the ship today fellas right the ship please gonna need uh more gonna need more from i would say the top of the order i mean that's why they hit at the top of the order because they're really good our top of the order lessons like oh for four oh for 15 or something so yeah gonna need more from the top uh certainly tonight against john gray all right we're gonna take our final time out and then we'll come back and Paulie's got his rindle report headlines for us and we'll wrap up our short week here heading into the fourth of july holiday with more better woods on sandy egos number one sports station 97-3 the fan this hour on 97-3 the fan is brought to you by the frozen ropes baseball and softball training facilities frozen ropes now signing up athletes aged six through twelve for baseball and softball summer camps half day and full day options are available make it a frozen rope summer like bow woods for more information visit sandy ego frozen ropes dot com at sandy ego frozen ropes dot com the game on sunday buddy it's excited when now when does your uh tier one start again sunday sunday no i mean imagine winning the world series in october and two weeks later they're like all right you're back at it fellas uh there's no spring training just come on back don't get it confused what we just went through it was basically like it was like a six-month grind it's exactly right you played 12 game 14 or something like that something like that yep once a week uh yeah once a week we had a double header we did have that one double header was very hot we then we had a double header when we won the championship that was hot i've never seen guys play two for real world series uh but now we're right back at it this week will be at vista sports complex at nine a.m. on sunday taking on the team we just beat in the championship the Aztec so i'm sure they're going to come hungry and ready to play we'll see if the world series hang over is real for the tier one baseball team all right we've got some uh riddle report headlines coming up right after a final check at traffic here on 97-3 the fan and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rindel report now tuned into the mother greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i give you all right all right paul you got to iri fan geek in the chat says he's uh in north park right now he needs a shout out because he's uh stranded he needs to jump okay so well i'm gonna get out of here i'm gonna give him a jump go give him a jump do you well there's tier ones everywhere tier one you got a battery cables and you can uh and you can give a fellow tier one uh jump starts in the area find him right now uh just as an aside paul before you get in trust tree i'm looking at you if you had to well i wouldn't know how that's what i'm saying if you had to jump my car with no idea i i assume there's like you know you got those clamps and then you do i don't know you don't know where to put it i don't know where to put it i would i would hate to blow up your car accidentally bike connecting the anode to the diode or whatever it's supposed to do i don't know i'm not a good mechanic engineer no well maybe actually i can't i am so i am so car inept i i don't even know is there a compartment where they might be hiding like in the back of my car somewhere it's possible and certainly it's possible i don't you just match the colors man it's really is that what you do just google it watch a youtube video something i like to do that yeah i mean i feel my own washer fluid thanks to a youtube video so maybe i could jump start a car well hopefully somebody goes and helps irie in north park right now yeah uh little update on a story in maybe baseball i have triple a maybe that's what i have killed me maybe little update on story we discussed uh the other day we've got uh some closure on it shohayotani will not be participating in the home run derby in a couple of weeks do you guys see him smoke that kid in the face last night with his home run yes oh my god yeah i think he should be suspended for the rest of the season yeah for sure yeah it's egregious yeah gambling he's gambling the children child abuse the monster what are we doing here man god this gets this guy out of the game he uh now he had expressed interest like he still wanted to play but he said i'm i'm gonna follow the you know guidance of the team doctors and what my manager wants and he said uh last night they're an interpreter i'm in the middle of my rehab progression so it's not going to look like i'll be participating so he's out kind of bummer i mean i'd like to see him in it he's one of the best power hitters in on the planet and he's only done it once you know it's like brawn never did the dunk contest so that would have been cool so stupid i'd like to see iran judge in the home run derby every every year every year but i understand it it's also you know supposed to be time off for them but you're gonna be in the all-star game might as well do it might as well do it we're just really hoping it ruins his swing but something tells me it wouldn't probably not maybe the first guy who actually gets locked in it's better to the home runner i'm just feeling so much i can feel like i'm seeing it so much better now all those extra reps and goes and hits 50 in the second half of the season so i'm in uh WNBA mode i'm excited i'm going to my first WNBA game on friday night very nice we're gonna go up to LA and we'll see the sparks play the Las Vegas aces where's the game uh crypto dot com crypto dot com staple center and uh so the the aces their home arena is actually the micholove ultra arena at mandalae bay they were playing the indiana fever yesterday in vegas katelyn clark draws a huge crowd on the road so they moved this game from their home arena over to t mobile arena where the gold knights play and they sold that mother out saw some aerial foot i had to put it from the top of the arena every seat was completely packed um it was an all-time record for that arena now the arena is not very old but they've had Stanley cup finals games there now Ben did point out earlier when we were talking about it off the air uh the capacity is different because the hockey rink takes up much more space than the last night and uh yeah it says 20,366 fans in attendance at uh t mobile arena it's the largest t mobile arena crowd in history and the largest WNBA crowd since 1999 by the way our uh sandy uger's own kelsey plum grew a season high 34 points in the win for the aces exactly i didn't see her play on friday nights you don't get to see your beloved kim and kim and bring she tore her ace so she's out for a while she might be there she might she might be there no i'd probably expect her to be there uh and then we were also talking off the air the uh WNBA all-star teams were announced in the rookie sensations angel reese katelyn clark they did make the all-star team but ben you're explaining how the all-star game works here because of the olympics they're going to have team USA is one of the teams which obviously is filled with WNBA all-stars and then there's another team of non team USA WNBA all-stars like katelyn clark and angel reese and they're going to play against each other so team WNBA versus team us so basically yeah like twice as many all-stars as usual making up two teams that are going to play against each other but it's kind of a tune up for team USA playing uh probably the second best team in the world is going to be the rest of the all-stars in the WNBA so that was pretty actually entertaining format i would think yeah not bad at all and it gets katelyn clark there and gets angel reese there and that should be kind of interesting and then finally another update on a story that we discussed a while ago but this is not sports related you guys remember we talked about um red lobster was going out of business or looking to be filing for bankruptcy and that really really upset flavor flavor yeah flavor flave was not happy he loves his red lobster he posted a picture that week he bought every single item on the menu had it delivered to his house and just set up a feast of red lobster and red lobster was so moved by that gesture that they have added a item to their menu called flavor-flaves faves that's clever costs uh 4299 and the item consists of a main lobster tail paired with half-pound snow crab legs served with garlic shrimp scampi bacon mac and cheese and the choice of one side dish so are they going out of business or are they not are they just doing new well bankruptcy is not out of business that's true you continue on and you just reorganize and you move forward people continue to need to eat seafood it's not stopping just because they had some financial difficulties people need their their shrimp and their crab legs yep their lobster tails and their bacon mac and cheese with a little fish sauce in there yellow fish take up the mama no beef sauce no beef sauce in the fish tastes more like fish that's what i learned today fish sauce makes beef taste more like beef so then beef oil will make your fish taste more like fish possibly if logic serves it's at first i like flavor-flaves faves yeah flavor-flaves faves putting two nice favorite things 4299 i know sounds like a lot we're getting a lobster tail in there yeah i mean lobster is pricey it is even at the red lobster it's in the name should we do ben's likes we haven't done it in weeks yeah we have a couple minutes but yeah we probably should because we hadn't gotten to it the last couple of fries we added any poly it's a wednesday no remember we kind of just we do it in and big chomp spurts chunk we're getting i have to like some things we're getting close before i can before you can add our numbers usually about 50 per per segment and i think our in fourth instalments at like 30 it's going to be 14 minutes straight of things that you like out of measure not on the list of not there yet yeah he's going to go six shutout any tonight and then maybe he'll make the like all right i like out of measure i like what he did the other night i like this breaking ball can't wait oh um what do we got so but between now and when we come back next week pod raise finish the series against the rangers yep today and tomorrow and then their home against the diamondbacks friday saturday and sunday and then they get a day off on monday and then two against the seattle mariners and three against the atlanta braves and possibly by that brave series as we found out yesterday's and her bo guards could be back uh after a rehab stint assuming louis campus anu is going to be back fairly soon as well he's been in lake elson over the last two days some good news i mean still a lot of question marks about the health of pod raise but at least some positive signs about players coming back so you're going to be out monday i'm also out monday yeah uh me and poly you'll be in first two hours are going to be me and poly solo and then tim flannery's going to come in and shoot the breeze tell some stories for the last couple hours looking forward to that always love him he is such a uh a gentleman and uh really soulful soulful baseball man you guys all know flan well so uh looking forward to that on monday as well and uh let's get to some things ben likes sounds good i like good juicy sweet strawberries i like a good marching band i like a good thin pancake i like a nickelback song or two i like a barbecue chicken pizza i really like those seeds i like it midnight buffet i kind of like the smell of soft scrub i like more of a small dairier i like cake i like it sheared i like both a hamburger and cheeseburger i like clocks i like how i've kind of set up my life i like grasshopper pie and oh no i like it creamy i like good firm banana i like just looking out at the sea i like eating i like moist i like curry i like big butts i like fried brussel sprouts i like more of a firm filling i like corn i like Nordstrom i do like musicals i like pepperoni i like nice hotels i like nick getting a start today i like nuts i like steff curry i like that song i like squirt i like saki i like sandy agustate i like uh straight up i like the beef and broccoli i like to mix it up i like science experiments i like that song i like the crispiness of the waffle i really like cheese i like the little lunch meat i like very straight lines i like cannelloni i like a well crafted headline i like brown sugar i like maps i'll say i like just in turn i like going to goals games i like diving into chores i like sugar i do like better finger i like blue and silver not bad colors i like the time change i like majorly baseball's new rule i like the radio i like geography i like the knuckle method i like skippy i like pie i like but i like to chase tingler too i like this day i like being right i still do like movie scores i like good food i like maps i like when interviews can turn into organic conversation i do like a sofa's french red pizza i like having the wind go through my hair i think i like shows that the characters have an arc i like the full lettuce tomato onion experience as well i like those kind of burgers i like a big overflowing bag of fries i like those little smarties rolls i like what i saw from seth lugo i like this competitive fire i like walking around between the different lands steve curd though i like that i like living on the coast i like watching tiger still i like the idea of that match up i liked what i saw in the preseason i like the aloneness sometimes of Texas hold up i like watching sanny of the state basketball i like those cashew buttered cashews i like cold clear sake i like a lot of things i like chick fillet sauce i just like rankings i like steve winwood i like pie gal poker i like to be informed on subjects i like chicago i like tumpetty i like the idea of another left handed bat in the lineup for sure i do like a good mat dame and film i like being on the same page i like broccoli i like brussel sprouts i like a lot of things i like this shirt i like wipe out i liked my omelette i like sandy and just stayed at home i like when a baseball player can be more than just a baseball player i like vanilla i like the atmosphere i like the felt on a poker table just kind of how it feels under your fingers when you're there i like rubar pie i like the window seat changing the subject i like that i like just a standard yellow peak i like how sanny of the states playing right now i like finer things i like calling a game i like fiction more than nonfiction just like the cream i actually like playing golf with other people i've liked everything i've seen so far from mike shill i like mexican food i like just the solar system i do like steak i like specifics i like going to seven mile casino during the day i like that people are there having a good time i like my new eating schedule i liked what i was eating i like the variety of the menu and sanny i do like a good midnight buffet whoo that is a lengthy extensive list am i not discriminating enough i don't think i think you like too much that i need to start narrowing down the field a little bit and like less things jakes as i'm starting to no longer like the likes jakes that i mean that's brutal for us we have to come up with a new bit my friend that's a nice little uh show killer at the end jake i liked everything about this week ben says he uh jakes as ben makes me want to not like things i know the alternative is things woods doesn't care about basketball most things most things yeah that's he actually very short it would be short most most most things yes i don't care don't care what's doesn't care i don't care about that oh plus my keys sinkins tell i'm ready to go i'm like keys of my hand ready to get out of here for the weekend my friend you're off to uh santa barbara uh yes i'll be gone uh friday through monday so the the horseback riding the try not to get us fired or anything on the day i'm not here no we'll be fine the horseback land coming in though that's cool your horseback riding yeah drinking white wine that's some red wine too some red wine too some delicious meals yeah golf oak oak grilled meats and oh my god little golf maybe some pickle ball wow you know it is bougie thing it's very that i like very bougie please ride a horse this year i'm begging you for the content alone don't you don't really ride the horses but i'd like you to this year i'd like to get you a picture of you you've lost the weight it's true it's less onerous on the horse correct thanks to st fat loss dot com i'm begging you mama higgins if you're listening get him on a horse this weekend i need the picture of him on off on the steve all right that is it for us any else to coming up next have a great fourth of july holiday everybody we'll talk to you next week for paul ryan over steven woods i bet higgins thanks for joining us everybody so long nice today's episode is sponsored by nerd wallet smart money podcast get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds nerd wallets experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights no financial misinformation allowed learn how to save on your summer vacation find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund make smarter decisions in 2024 follow nerd wallet smart money podcast on your favorite podcast app you don't just live in your home you live in your neighborhood as well so when you're shopping for a home you want to know as much about the area around it as possible luckily homes dot com has got you covered each listing features a comprehensive neighborhood guide from local experts everything you'd ever want to know about a neighborhood including the number of homes for sale transportation local amenities cultural attractions unique qualities and even things like median lot size and a noise score homes dot com we've done your homework hey fantasy football fans this is Zach from upper hand fantasy you don't want an embarrassing tattoo just because you lost a bet in your fantasy football league right if you do i suggest i'm mermaid holding a football but let's avoid that all together bros and i are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to bust we've got you covered to give you the upper hand on your friends start your fancy football prep now join us and stay ahead of the competition follow and listen to upper hand fantasy on the free audency app or wherever you get your podcasts said last night on channel 10 that the uh the texas rangers haven't exactly looked like defending world series champions this year until last night they very much looked yeah like the defending world series champions they did it without cori seager uh they did it with a great pitching performance by nathan avaldi and they just beat up on dill and c so we got nick hundley standing by he's special assistant to chris young former pajre's catcher going to join us right after this check of traffic on ninety seven three the fam yeah i told you woods that in mind now what 25 almost 30 years covering the pajre's there have been certain players that have always been kind of nervous about approaching per interviews and in the clubhouse our next guest is not one of them i always enjoyed conversations with nathan he just was really friendly he was he's just more approachable than most and i want to say thank you to nick i appreciated that when he was a player and now he's joining us right now here on ben and once on ninety seven three the fan hi nick how are you hey what's up guys i hope i don't blow that uh blow that credence but this energy oh wait i have no worries he's gonna you're gonna be just fine how about when when you were playing uh nick what was the worst thing that media did like what was the worst question that they asked you was it the hey what were you looking for on that pitch or was it the tell us about your approach there because i i i watched those and it still happens like on the on a regular basis and and i'm just like well obviously he's looking for a pitch to hit something to drive you know out of the ballpark and for pitch to hit and drive something out of the ballpark i guess right yeah yeah it would be tough because there was times when you'd play it you know early in a series you'd be playing the dodgers and you're playing the dodgers next week and then you're playing them 18 more times they're like hey what were you looking at for uh against uh Chad Billingsley he's like well i'm gonna take Chad Billingsley four four or five more times this year so i'm not gonna answer that truth i'm not gonna tell you uh anything now Ben certainly we have gone through the the people that Ben was scared of and he asked me he was probably at the top of the list for some reason he's like the nicest like dude ever but Ben was terrified of him but he always said yeah you you're really really sneer after the games it just kind of was off-putting i don't know he's he's great some guys look man so respect some guys get it some guys don't some guys get the get the the the job and some guys don't want to be bothered by you know slappies like us in there and uh it's part it's definitely part of the job for sure so you uh you know what you're signing up for so tell me about the job right now with the Texas Rangers and working with with CY as general manager obviously last year was just unbelievably magical season but what would you say what what are you kind of doing and what's your role right now with the Rangers yeah right now it's a lot of draft stuff um i'll be with the team in Anaheim and then go back to Dallas for the draft and uh you know just work through some of the catchers that uh we're looking at some of the amateur guys i've probably seen about eight to ten guys live and um just kind of in our in our little pocket and you know i really enjoy that side of it now with with how important uh the draft is you look at you know you can look at what the what the Padres are doing with with Jackson Merrill and then that same draft class they they draft James Wood and uh and gasser and all of a sudden you look up and you've you know got a guys potentially rookie of the year and uh and two guys you traded for for generational talent so it's pretty it's pretty fun uh fun month of month of July so with the draft and the and the trade deadline so this is really really busy for me and then just give my opinion and then uh and then then head back to San Diego yeah it's kind of the best of both worlds i would imagine for for an ex-player with a family uh talking to Nick Hunley here on Ben & Woods this morning you know i ran into you uh over at the play structure and we were we're talking about that and you know i i can't imagine like for Boach i know it was hard for him he wanted he was like i don't know if i'm ready to go back and and do this every day grind i can't imagine having to like be with the team every day when you got a a young family at home and i think this feels like for you a really really good fit yeah i'm fortunate you know uh and even even the guys um in Dallas do Chris does a really good job of fostering community and fostering uh the importance of family i mean he is three awesome kids he loves his family loves to be around them um you know hires guys like Boach and Will Venable and and things like that that that foster um so love that they have for their families too and uh and build that community that way so to be able to to be a dad and still be involved and and have a voice um and be able to to give my opinion and connect with cy and the rest of our front office group um that's been amazing so i'm very thankful the last two years to be able to do this for sure do you think this is uh Chris Young's calling as general manager i always thought he might be the next commissioner of baseball us yeah we all did someday as well after working in the office he he may be he may be too um you know even minded and for that job at this this role but tell me just a little more about cy and what you think of him and what what his futures is in store so i think cy i can do whatever he wants to do you know i think he's he's proven that in the short time um going from the league office to to run in a team to you know um to win a world series in the short time and obviously he's not the only one involved there's a lot of foundation late by by john danielson and the group um upon him but but Chris is just uh a different type of leader you can connect with with people in a ball you can connect with ownership you can connect with with people doing ticket sales uh security guards he just has a real respect for people and serves people really well and has high standards so i mean i can tell you stories for days about playing with Chris and and the standards we had and and get himself ready um and the standards that he had for his teammates and getting them ready and uh and what he needed out of people around him what he needed out of me catching him i learned a lot um i was really really fortunate coming up with guys like Trevor Hoffman and Greg Maddox and CY and David Eckstein and those types of guys that that showed me how to prepare and actually be a big leader on what what an actual day looked like in the big leagues before the game and after the game um and he was he was the top of that top of that list so i learned more about preparing to play a major league baseball game from Chris Young than anybody which is pretty pretty interesting to say because as a starting pitcher that's not usually the case that's pretty incredible stuff talking to uh Nick Conley here on Ben and Woods this morning and you know the the uh kind of at the beginning of the year we do the normal sports radio thing and all right what do you think everybody's going to finish and i i had the rangers uh you know the hangover the world series hangover certainly real and Ben was going over some of the numbers uh yesterday before the series started and said i really can't put my finger uh on why they haven't played as well as maybe they should i get non base yeah it's not getting on base right now but man you got some good young talent white lankford's one of my favorite players to watch him i watched him hit for the cycle the other night i'm like what an absolute beast he is and uh Corey Seager of course i mean gold standard type player world series mvp uh an absolute for us at least Garcia i love my kids love him like what a good team that you guys have put together just hasn't materialized yet and there i think there's still plenty of time to turn it around but what have you kind of seen yeah i think i think all of those things are true i think um you know we've been banged up i think Josh Young has played three games for us four games worth and the way that he was i mean starting the starting the all-star game last year he would have would have probably been i would say he probably won the one the rookie of the year if he didn't break his thumb last year obviously Gunnar Henderson is an amazing player too so nothing uh take away from him but um i would have voted for him if he was able to stay healthy so he's uh an absolute all-star um star in this game i haven't not having him not having Evan Carter um who burst on the scene another talking about draft coming up the second round peg from the from uh from the range a couple years ago um and then you know having a little bit of under-performance at times guys fluctuating a little bit there's those about a a month month period where kind of everybody wasn't hitting on all cylinders which you know it happens sporadically through the year but when it's a concentrated point where a lot of guys aren't um makes it a little tougher to win but you know the way that we've been taking it back for the last couple weeks has been a lot more in line with with who we are and uh that's really encouraging like you look at the the game last night you know Dylan C throwing 98 with with two really good breaking balls and we're able to to not expand and take pitches at the margins and win those pitches and getting good counts and and uh you know thankfully we we did some damage on some onto mistakes but you only do that if you take those take those marginal pitches and for a guy who strikes out 200 guys a year to take those marginal pitches against is really really tough so that was an encouraging zone yeah it was a lot of fun for us too watching that first one super fun that first marginal pitched in the manual was strike three marginal pitch whatever it's fine you still got a score to win little y through him that changed up after that's all right we don't need to relitigate yesterday's game we're talking to a timely uh ranger special assistant former padre and you mentioned doing some scouting now of good young catchers you were obviously a top young catching prospect a second round draft pick when you came out and I I don't know how much film you've seen but I was wondering if you had any perspective from outside the padre's organization and Ethan Salas someone who we keep hearing about and you know they just talk about what amazing skills he's got for a 17 year old kid you know plan and in high high A went to double A for a little while last year but kind of struggling offensively maybe expected what's the talk around the league about Ethan Salas yeah he's he's impressive you know actually one of our uh Brett Bocey is uh is working with the Rangers now the scout um and he covers a lot of uh the west coast so I talk to him a lot and then um you know I know I know Riley Westman for a long time a couple years now um talking to him about Ethan too um he can really really catch and really throw and the thing that I love you know the the thing that I love about catchers I love watching their pace and their heart rate and when there's big situations I was fortunate to play with Buster Posey for two years I feel like I saw the game speed up him up on him one time in two years like he's just heart rate and he just plays with his pace where he just dominated the game because it's such a tough game and it'll speed up on everybody but when you have a catcher who's in a leadership position who uh who's in big spots and they're their heart rate is low it's such a such an incredible trait to have and I think that's what Jonah Heim has are catcher in Texas gold Glover and you know started the all-star game last year his pace and his heart rate is so good that when you're in the world series and the bases are loaded and the role this Chapman's doing and too they're like if I'm catching that situation my heart rate is really high and I might be chasing it back to the back stop but Jonah's not Buster's not and it looks like the pace Ethan Salas plays at it looks like for me is watching him like he's not going to be chasing that ball either like he's going to control that game so all the skills and all that stuff aside all the youth playing at the higher higher level above his above his age all that stuff aside I just really like the pace that he plays with that's such good information talking to Nick on the here last one for me I mean you see it a lot on Twitter and you see a lot you hear a lot and you know people are I don't understand why these catchers now you know the catching position has changed certainly and there's a new there's a new way that's being taught you know the glove down the kind of steel one and we watched Ethan do it brilliantly when we were at spring training I could have watched him do catching drills all day but the position has changed Nick it it changed from when I was a kid you know what I mean and how if you as a catcher former catcher adapted to maybe teaching a little bit way a different way to do it yeah how much time do you have we got about five minutes left yeah I mean so let's start of when when umpires weren't graded as as hard right now with the Z system like these umpires are graded so difficulty they they get every single pitch they and a lot of them I mean we can go into a tangent on ABS and all that stuff too but umpires have gotten so good at calling balls and strikes with the system that they're graded some guys are shooting 98, 99, 100 percent so you can't they can't when I came up if you would move the ball umpires would ding you like crazy like hey don't do that it makes me look bad catch the ball hold it so I can see it like if you move the ball at all like you get crushed by umpires and when I came up like Greg Maddox told me when I came up don't move like if you set the target up and you move it it's like me standing over ball ready to like on a tee and ready to tee off and like in my back swing you yelling at me so don't like literally don't move so I was like a statue I was like oh my gosh can I even breathe like this is a Hall of Famer but I don't want to get sent down tomorrow please like throwing to me you know so now that the umpires are graded so heavily like you can move the ball as much as you want and they can't hold that against you right so your goal is to catch her is to make the ball that's two inches below the zone look exactly the same as the ball that's one inch above the zone so I'm going to catch it the exact same way I'm going to pull it up the exact I'm going to try to pull it up the exact same way so these small margins when dealing ceases doing 89 mile an hour sliders and 98 mile an hour fastballs like these small marginal pitches I want to make those look exactly the same um and then probably talking through one knee down stances like that um guys are throwing so hard now that the sliders the splits like Evo made of all the last night was throwing 89 mile a split 93 mile an hour cutters like if I'm in a traditional stance where I'm don't have one knee down I'm playing higher the level that I play at is a lot higher than than if I have one knee down so it's a lot easier to block all the all the blocking metrics when it first came out is like well how are you going to block in these in a one knee down stance and all the blocking metrics and passball metrics are so much better now um than they were when most guys want traditional stances um just because you're playing lower to the ground you're playing uh you don't have to exert as much effort to block that ball to receive the low pitch things like that and and we have an amazing catching coach and Bobby Wilson who is one of the one of the leaders at that teaching the one knee down stance um so one I'm firing two uh velocity and then three just longevity and health I think it's a lot easier on your body um to be in that position as opposed to being in a traditional squat for such a long period of time throughout the season so there's a lot of a lot of positive things about it um like any revolution that takes place there's gonna be a lot of pushback and a lot of traditional traditional uh list will say oh that doesn't look right that's not the way to do it but at the end of the day like I like flat screen TVs I like replay I like planes like I like all those things like let's continue to advance you know yeah I like advancements as well that was amazing great stuff we could probably continue on if we had more time we don't but uh promise you'll you'll come and do this again with this uh real soon maybe in studio at some point if you're when you're in town yeah I'll think yeah we were all popped in there with you guys that'd be awesome man thank you so much yeah thank you all right Nick Hundley I got some stuff to react to on that when we come back final hour of Ben and Woods get around the report ahead as well don't go away more on the way here on San Diego's number one sports station 97 3 the fan thanks again to Nick Hundley just joined us that was a fun conversation final hour of Ben and Woods here on a Wednesday heading into the 4th of July holiday now of course everything that Nick Hundley said about catcher framing I thought that was fascinating about when he pitched umpires would get mad if he tried to frame now everybody does it but of course that could all go away as soon as next season if they decide to go to an automated ball strike robot umpire system framing will have zero value at all it'll either be a ball or a strike you can catch it ugly catch it soft and pretty and it won't make the bit of difference and all this work that these catchers have done for years and years on framing and you know you know how they show it to the umpire will make no difference whatsoever I'm not saying that's a bad thing I'm just saying that's a lot of work that's been put in that could be completely eradicated by one rule change yeah and I don't know that they're discussing full-on robo um so right it's more of what they're discussing that may not be what is implemented sure okay with the challenge system man I really am because last night higgy on that on that pitch in the first inning would have tapped his helmet and boom strike three year out and I'm fine with the challenge the challenge is fine I don't know how many you do I don't know how you keep it moving whatever I know that's the most important thing in baseball now to get it over with uh as far as the commissioner's office is concerned but um I I don't think you'll ever I don't know that you'll ever see full robo I really don't if only we had someone smart they could discuss this with us further oh how about that in in fact we do have someone smart and because uh tomorrow is a holiday our usual thursday guest gonna join us a little bit earlier right now on a Wednesday it's time for the super polished you have to be named smart baseball weekly segment with Eno Harris saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the bay in Chula Vista here's Eno saris with Benin Woods on 97 3 the fair happy independence day to you Eno what's on the at the barbecue menu at the Harris or saris home um I'm probably gonna do hamburgers um my my little secret is um and this is gonna discuss some people but it's really good uh a tiny bit of fish sauce um a little bit of uh of soy sauce and then um I mix of like it's like three quarters uh beef one quarter pork cool Eno knows umami this is what yeah this is smart that new mommy player yeah oh all right I thought you were gonna say you use mayo to put the burgers together which I have heard is really really good look by extra money yeah it binds it yeah and it's a little you know a little fatty in there and a good flavor I think that'd be a decent one I may try that myself let's uh let's yeah I'll do that you do yours with fish sauce on it and we can compare don't disparage the fish sauce it's in a lot of things you like you just don't know it's in there you don't put a lot of it yeah you don't put a lot of it in it's not it's not like you would separate it out if which you're eating it I love a good fish burger I like my beef to taste like fish every time if I have the opportunity don't I can tell you try it that's fair enough so you know we were just talking with Nick Conley and about framing and then you know the idea of the automated ball strike system came up how do you see it playing out how does Major League Baseball get a handle this because obviously that discussion is not going away anytime soon yeah I think it's going to be the challenge system like you see in tennis and I think that's the best outcome because it's fun for the viewers in tennis when they when they challenge a double fault you know they go to the big board immediately everyone looks at it there's limited amount of challenges you look at the board and the crowd goes oh and they watch the ball bounce you know and there's like an audience participation portion of it so the challenge system is you have three challenges the batter has to challenge immediately there's no looking over to the manager to see if they should challenge and you only have three for the game so you have to kind of hold on to them but that means no huge you can't lose the game on a bad call you know there's no you know if you have the bases loaded in the eighth or something then you you can challenge it and it's immediate and there's audience participation the reason I don't like ABS as it is now is that walks and strikeouts went through the roof in the minor leagues when they instituted it and their only sort of recompense has been to shrink the strike zone and walks and strikeouts are still kind of high um and then um lastly like I think there could be unintended consequences I think of Sergio Romo and Rich Hill throwing frisbees and these huge 12 to 6ers that hit the plate that the catcher catches two feet outside the strike zone but nick the strike zone and make the light go green um and uh I'm not sure that I want baseball to sort of you know end up in that direction yeah and I I've always been of the opinion that it doesn't have to be perfect it doesn't and I know it's recency bias and everything you know but I mean I'm seeing some lately that is you know the catcher may move his glove a little bit but the ball's down the middle I mean it's 96 at at the not even at the top of the zone it's down the middle and these guys are missing and I understand how hard it is you know your eyes can only catch up these guys are throwing nastier stuff than they ever have before but I do think that you know there's some some way to do it where everybody is happy I mean but then again we're talking about baseball that can't decide on a uniform baseball that it works for everybody's happy right yeah no I don't think that's never exactly and one thing that we have seen with the umpires is that since we've had the machines uh the umpires have been trained by the machine and so I know this was kind of hard to hear but the umpires are doing the best they've ever done yeah yeah it's true numbers it's true I think Mike and it's they're pretty good it's like a 95% sort of thing so it's not you know it's not it may feel sometimes like they're guessing but you know they're actually pretty good I think if the system is implemented as you said with the challenges I guess my my concern or I would just assume that with as competitive as teams are if the Astros found a way to cheat stealing signals you can see instantly if it's a ball or strike some way some teams gonna figure out how to get that information to either the hitter or the catcher to make those seemingly instantaneous challenge decisions to know that they're going to be right a hundred percent of the time when they do challenge yes yes you're right they're gonna have somebody uh there there is actually right now a battle over whether the strike zone box uh is allowed on the iPad uh that's in the in the dugout so the umpires complained that players were using the strike zone box on the uh on the pictures they could watch on the iPad um to to argue with the the umpires yeah because of the umpires yeah yeah if umpires asked for the box uh to be taken off and then the players union uh fought back and now the boxes are back but maybe um if they do have a challenge system you are not allowed to have boxes um on those pictures on the iPad interesting stuff talking to you know Sarah's here on Ben & Woods this morning and uh you know saw a trade this morning Aaron Savali going from the Rays to the Brewers uh for an infielder kind of your your thoughts on that are the Rays trading from a position of depth here or they just doing what the Rays do and just moving guys i i looked up his numbers they're nothing to write home about but i'm sure you know every team needs arms every team needs innings eaten uh you know what was your kind of take on that and do you expect some more arms to be moved and if so who i mean they have a couple of guys coming back from injury in Jeffery Springs and Drew Rassnuffin they're in a really tough division so it could just be an early sell um you know the they're at 500 but they're you know they're fourth in their division um and um you know Aaron Savali hasn't turned out exactly if they'd hoped he's a kind of a bad fastball guy with good breaking balls uh they thought they could coax um you know you know three really good breaking balls out of there and i think um sometimes his breaking balls blend together and so i think there's just been uh they they traded Kalman Zarda who was thought of it a pretty good hitting prospect who struggled a little bit in the major leagues and has tried so far in Cleveland um but they don't they don't look backwards and you know like oh god we got to hold on to Aaron Savali because we traded Kalman Zarda for him they do have a little bit of AJ in them where they're just like no next next move next move is this you know and so they have Shane Boz um who was at one point one of the best pitching prospects in the minors he's lost a little bit due to injury but he's ready to go um so they're just going to stick Shane Boz in there and keep on trucking and the next person goes down hopefully you know one of their returning guys from injuries is back and you know they also want to think beyond this year so if they trade them for somebody they have next year then that's so much the better for them they always do they always think beyond this year always we are a little different here in San Diego and uh we've been talking about how creative our general manager is going to have to be there's you know there's money constraints there's prospect constraints kind of how do you see uh potentially in your gut the trade deadline for the San Diego Padres shaping up yeah the crochet thing is a super inning because you know you can get Derek Hershey is probably the jewel of the deadline um because he's got years of control he throws 97 he looks like an ace and he's in Chicago with the White Sox and they they're not going to be good in the next two three years as well as they have him the problem is that the most innings he's ever thrown before this year is 60 now he's at 95 or 100 um and every inning after this is sort of stepping into the unknown what if you trade for him and you have to shut him down for the playoffs or you have to turn into a leader or whatever it is um you know that would that would affect your short term but the nice thing is you have him for the next couple of years uh so it wouldn't just be a deadline acquisition um and if there's anybody that I think would maybe uh quote-unquote throw caution to the wind um it might be AJ and just say hey you know let's we're gonna let Garrett pitch as much as he feels good you know we're doing that right now with Michael King in a way you know and so um you might just he might just roll the dice there and maybe he can acquire crochet for a little bit less than you'd expect given all these questions about how many innings you will you'll actually give him the best otherwise is uh like a Jack Flaherty rental um from the Tigers um or you know you kind of wait for the rangers to fall out and and do a max sure of their rental um but uh the clear the clear jewel is is crochet talking to you know Sarah's from the athletic here and with James Wood making his major league debut on monday a lot of people revisiting once again the 2022 Padres nationals one soda trade and and I imagine we're gonna be doing this for decade to come we don't have to though we don't want to it's our show yeah we don't have to do it and in some ways it's it's impossible to ever really do it I mean you can you know how do you I mean you can just go straight like war for war and and who who gave you more in the future but you can't really you can't really do that because you know players then turn into other players like the Padres did with one soda and you can't take away a nationally championship appearance a series appearance does that happen without one soda have no idea so it really is impossible even after the fact to truly evaluate a trade I'm sorry you know and if you were gonna go back and look for it you were gonna you would have to like you'd have to realize that you know James Wood had like a 50-40 chance of turning out to be even now uh that he looks so good he's in the big leagues he still has a sort of 50-50 shot of of being a great player you know um and so you have to think about the sort of probability of each thing and it does look like that trade for soda you know a lot of the players that he traded away in that trade are turning out to be on the better end of their probabilities you know CDA rooms might be one of the worst defensive shorts off some big leagues but he looks pretty good on offense and he's super young and they haven't forever the Kinsey Gore turned out to be one of the better versions of himself I think you know it's it's lining up to be like okay you know they they did a good job in that trade but they were also trading you know a few years of one of the best hitters on the planet and yeah the Padres got something out of it too so you know one thing that just sort of boggles my mind is that you know Jackson Merrill's you know in center field playing really well and looking like a maybe even a future star himself and they traded away so many guys and they still have a guy like Jackson Merrill so you know the playbook is clear for preller it's just keep restocking the cupboard and keep trading them away and and hold on to a couple of them maybe even current star for Jackson Merrill you're nationally rookie of the month that's right of this this morning you know you have a very good Fourth of July holiday a good weekend and we'll talk to you again next week all right thank God you know Sarah said the athletic or smart baseball segment brought to you by seven mile casino Joe your fish burger you know doesn't really taste like fish do I put it in there it it's it just kind of amplifies the flavor of other things like wouldn't it be meat sauce then hmm well I mean it is made from fish overly beef oils just an accurate name wouldn't you want your beef to taste more like beef like you like beef oil you love chalula right yeah love chalula it's got that kind of smokey kind of you say sometimes smells like feet a little bit a little bit yeah that's what fish sauce is it's got that extra kind of foot kind of funk to it it just makes everything taste better okay I mean if you like this taste of smelly feet then yes it sounds like it's right I think you do which I think you do I could be all right Paulie's got a rattle report coming up we'll look ahead to the matchup tonight uh Padres Rangers game two of the series all ahead after a check traffic here on 97 3 the fan Padres like most teams are in need of starting pitching depth I brought up a name during the break that woods did not seem interested in but yesterday the Texas Rangers uh parted ways well I guess Johnny Quato opted out of his minor league deal with the Texas Rangers now Johnny Quato is over the hill he's not the Johnny Quato that was really good pitcher by the way for good good chunk of time back in the 2010s Johnny Quato was one of the top pitchers in the National League for a while it's not that anymore but you know he's got his experience and if he's healthy there's a team that's going to want to take a flyer I would think at some point on Johnny Quato here Yard Barker uh which is a baseball website as them has him potentially helping out the San Francisco Giants which he has a long history back there the New York Mets and the Boston Red Sox so I don't know I mean are we in a position to turn down anyone at this point on a on a minor league deal uh I think the answer to that question is no but doesn't blow my hair I will say that anytime you pair a pitcher with Ruben the Abla there is some intrigue there because there's a track record of whatever magic that Ruben the Abla has working I mean look at uh big fudge your new favorite love big fudge uh Austin Davis yeah uh and and the changes they I've seen some side-by-side videos uh some of the Padres Twitter accounts from 2022 versus 2024 and just the incredible amount of extra movement he's getting now I mean coach fudge yeah yeah coaching does make a difference we not learn enough though from Rich Hill last year someone just Zach said uh smells like Dick Mountain all over it absolutely does that's true too it absolutely absolutely feels like a different version of Dick Mountain and uh I that was excruciating to watch I don't know how you guys feel about it but that was it's Arietta it's Dick Mountain gives me it gives me like panic attack feeling now trying to remember last year didn't have a ton of major injuries to our rotation right certainly not our our top two guys so you know AJ kind of went around the margins the year we got Arietta all the injuries happened right after the trade deadline yeah like right after like the day after the trade deadline so we were kind of screwed there that's when you had to go get Jake Arietta in August off waiver you know whatever Vince Velasquez so now AJ knows and he knows better than us what the future holds for this season with Darvish and Musgrove in particular like he knows he's got to go out and make some moves yeah I don't think there's any question uh Janine who is just my favorite she's incredible in the chat she goes I don't know Cease is pretty awful to watch too he has his moments he has his moments in my in my mind when I watch Dylan Cease I go all right he may be off to a rough start he gave up a two run homer in the first the the reasoning I had with myself was at least he's throwing 98 I mean he's up there he's gassing it up there if he can hone it if he can figure out a little mechanical adjustment whatever but they they pounded him really really good last night they really really got to him uh and did as Nick on Lee said a lot of damage off him a lot of doubles a lot of home runs I mean everything was for extra vases last night but you know I just I don't I don't watch Dylan Cease and I'm not filled with rage like I was when I watched Rich Hill pitch you know Rich Hill's throwing 61 miles an hour up there and I'm going I'm kind of like Mike Schilt I mean I know Dylan Cease hasn't been perfect but I'm not worried about Dylan Cease he I'm not he's got the stuff still I mean he'll be on or he won't yeah but I rather have him out there than on it honestly and I know it sounds like I'm such a hater but today's starter again out of nature is getting another chance oh boy because the Padres don't have any better options I hope he's not pitching again because he's done so well he's pitching again because the Padres don't have any other options I hope mister and miss his measure do not listen to the Ben & Woods program I'm sorry for his vitriol about your son and I don't know if Johnny Quito would be a better option right now than Adam Asian I say no can I just say no can I say no you wouldn't be necessarily wrong but there's got to be someone out there that's not that you don't have to give up your entire farm system for they could be an upgrade right now over Adam Asian now Adam Asia in in a couple of months or next season or in two years might be a really decent fine starting pitcher but he's not there yet and the Padres right now are three games above 500 in a massive battle with all kinds of teams for a playoff spot and they continue every fifth or sixth day to hand the ball to someone who's not quite ready to be a a regular big league starter it's too bad we're not on tomorrow because he's gonna shove tonight he's going to absolutely shove I hope he does he'll be left with egg on your face Adam as you're gonna shove against the Texas Rangers I forgot about I had forgotten about when southern Ben out of nowhere one day popped up an authentic show here in Dallas the Texas Rangers Texas the Texas Rangers with my family and my family where would where was that from I wasn't asked to do a southern action it just got to pop down you just did it you just did it and I we said did you just do a southern accent it's very very good that wasn't one March March much even the tier one tour maybe we were talking about Rangers yeah let's hear it again the Texas Rangers yee-haw that is on the leave of the Texas range got my 10 gallon hat on right talking about my Texas right the Texas Rangers that was so good it's so good you're like a chameleon wherever you go that's where you are Adam asier tonight and against John Gray who you had the numbers I think earlier 12 and very successful 12 and six two nine nine on it maybe beat him one out of every three times maybe this will be one of the three that they actually get John Gray yeah who feels like you're going to need more than you know a runner to offensively to win this game tonight yes you wanted what did you say that they've scored one run in their last 19 innings after scoring 20 runs in their previous 13 innings feast or famine again since we were we were felt like we were climbing out of the feast or famine hole we were right back in it it's like they woke up a day and they're like oh just because games above 500 just because your feasting doesn't mean you're out of the feast or famine cycle yeah listen I knew they weren't going to feast the entire rest of the season but a snack or two in the middle of it you know if you're not feasting have a meal can you go from eight nine eleven runs to four six five whatever fine right is it always happy yeah 12 no 13 one I mean it's last season that's last season as well exactly right right to ship today fell us right the ship please gonna need more gonna need more from I would say the top of the order I mean that's why they hit at the top of the order because they're really good our top of the order lessons like oh for four oh for 15 or something so yeah gonna need more from the top certainly tonight against John Gray all right we're going to take our final time out and then we'll come back and Pauli's got his rindle report headlines for us and we'll wrap up our short week here heading into the 4th of July holiday with more better woods on San Diego's number one sports station 97 3 the fan this hour on 97 3 the fan is brought to you by the frozen ropes baseball and softball training facilities frozen ropes now signing up athletes aged six through 12 for baseball and softball summer camps half day and full day options are available make it a frozen rope summer like bow woods for more information visit San Diego frozen ropes dot com at San Diego frozen ropes dot com the game on sunday buddy it's excited when now when does your uh tier one start again sunday sunday no i mean imagine winning the world series in october and two weeks later they're like all right you're back at it fellas uh there's no string training just come on back don't get it confused what we just went through it was basically like there's like a six-month grind it's exactly right you played 12 games 14 are they 14 something like that something like that before once a week uh yeah once a week we had a double header we did have that one double header it was very hot we then we had a double header when we won the championship that was hot i've never seen guys play two on a for real world series uh but now we're right back at it this week we'll be at vista sports complex at 9 a.m. on sunday taking on the team we just beat in the championship the Aztec so i'm sure they're going to come hungry and ready to play we'll see if the world series hang over is real for the tier one baseball team all right we've got some uh riddle report headlines coming up right after a final check of traffic here on 97-3 the fan and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the riddle report now tuned into the month greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a hole here all right all right all right paul you got to irie fan geek in the chat says he's uh in north park right now he needs a shout out because he's stranded he needs a jump okay so well i'm gonna get out of here i'm gonna give him a jump go give him a jump do you well there's tier ones everywhere tier one you get a battery cables and you can uh and you can give a fellow tier one a jump starts in the area find him right now uh just as an aside pauli before you get in trust tree i'm looking at you if you had to well i wouldn't know how that's what i'm saying if you had to jump my car no idea i i assume there's like you know you got those clamps and they're then what you do i don't know you don't know where to put it i don't know where to put it i would i would hate to blow up your car accidentally by connecting the anode to the diode or whatever it's supposed to do i don't know i'm not a good mechanical engineer no well maybe actually i can't i am so i am so car inept i don't even know is there a compartment where they might be hiding like in the back of my car somewhere it's possible and certainly it's possible i don't you just match the colors man it's really is that what you do just google it watch a youtube video something yeah i i mean i feel my own washer fluid thanks to a youtube video so maybe i could jump start a car well hopefully somebody goes and helps irie in north park right now yes uh little update on a story immediately baseball i have triple a maybe that's what i have kill me baby little update on star we discussed uh the other day we've got some closure on it show hey otani will not be participating in the home run derby in a couple of weeks do you guys see him smoke that kid in the face last night with his home run yes oh my god yeah i think he should be suspended for the rest of the season yeah for sure yeah it's egregious yeah i mean the gambling he's the gambling the children child abuse i mean what are we doing here man god just get this guy out of the game he uh now he had expressed interest like he still wanted to play but he said i'm i'm gonna follow the you know guidance of the team doctors and what my manager wants and he said uh last night through an interpreter i'm in the middle of my rehab progression so it's not going to look like i'll be participating so all right he's out just kind of bummer i mean i'd like to see him in it he's one of the best power hitters in on the planet and he's only done it once you know it's like brawn never did the dunk contest so that would have been cool so stupid i'd like to see Aaron judge and the home run derby every every year every year i understand it it's also you know supposed to be time off for them but you're gonna be the all-star game might as well do it might as well do it we're just really hoping it ruins his swing but something tells me it wouldn't probably not maybe the first guy who actually gets locked in it's better to the home runder i'm just feeling so much i can feel like i'm seeing it so much better now all those extra reps and goes and hits 50 in the second half of the season so i'm in the WNBA mode i'm excited i'm going to my first WNBA game on friday nights very nice we're going to go up to la and we'll see the sparks play the Las Vegas aces where's the game uh crypto dot com crypto dot com staple center and uh so the the aces their home arena is actually the michalob ultra arena at mandolay bay they were playing the indiana fever yesterday in vegas katelyn clark draws a huge crowd on the road so they moved this game from their home arena over to t mobile arena where the gold nights play and they sold that mother out saw some aerial footage footage from the top of the arena every seat was completely packed um it was an all-time record for that arena now the arena is not very old but they've had Stanley cup finals games there now been did point out earlier when we were talking about it off the air uh the capacity is different because the hockey rink takes up much more space than the power that was last night last night and uh yeah it says 20,366 fans in attendance at t mobile arena it's the largest t mobile arena crowd in history and the largest WNBA crowd since 1999 by the way our uh sandy eger's own kelsey plum crew a season high 34 points in the win for the aces excited to see her play on Friday nights you don't get to see your beloved human caring she tore her race so she's out for a while she might be there she might she might be there no i'd probably expect her to be there uh and then we were also talking off the air the uh WNBA all-star teams were announced in the rookie sensations angel reese katelyn clark they did make the all-star team but then you're explaining how the all-star game works here because of the olympics they're gonna have team USA is one of the teams which obviously is filled with WNBA all-stars and then there's another team of non-team USA WNBA all-stars like katelyn clark and angel reese and they're gonna play against each other so team WNBA versus team us so basically yeah like twice as many all-stars as usual making up two teams that are gonna play against each other but it's kind of a tune-up for team USA playing probably the second best team in the world is going to be the rest of the all-stars in the WNBA so that was pretty actually entertaining format i would think yeah not bad at all and it gets katelyn clark there and gets angel reese there and that should be kind of interesting and then finally another update on a story that we discussed a while ago but this is not sports related you guys remember we talked about um red lobster was going out of business or looking to be filing for bankruptcy and that really really upset flavor flavor yeah flavor flavor was not happy he loves his red lobster he posted a picture that week he bought every single item on the menu had it delivered to his house and just set up a feast of red lobster and red lobster was so moved by that gesture that they have added a items to their menu called flavor-flaves faves that's clever costs uh 42.99 and the item consists of a main lobster tail paired with half pound snow crab legs served with garlic shrimp scampi bacon mac and cheese and the choice of one side dish so are they going out of business or are they not are they just doing new well bankruptcy is not out of business that's true you continue on and you just reorganize and you move forward people continue to need to eat seafood it's not stopping just because they had some financial difficulties people need their their shrimp and their crab legs yep their lobster tails and their bacon mac and cheese all right with a little fish sauce in there yellow fish pick up the mommy no beef sauce no beef sauce in the fish tastes more like fish that's what i learned today fish sauce makes beef taste more like beef so then beef oil will make your fish taste more like fish possibly if logic serves to first i like flavor flavors faves yeah flavor flavors faves play over everything's 42.99 i know sounds like a lot we're getting a lobster tail in there yeah i mean lobster is pricey it is even at the red lobster it's in the name should we do ben's likes we haven't done it in a week yeah we probably should because we hadn't gotten to it the last couple of fries added any poly it's a wednesday no remember we kind of just we do it in and big and spurt's chunks we're getting i have to like some things we're getting close before i can before you can add our number is usually about 50 per per segment and i think our in fourth instalments at like 30 it's going to be 14 minutes straight of things that you like out of measure not on the list of sports you know that one day maybe you'll make the likes that for good not there yet yeah he's going to go six shutout any tonight and then maybe he'll make the likes all right i like got a measure i like what he did the other night i like this breaking ball can't wait oh um what do we got so but between now and when we come back next week padre's finished the series against the rangers yep today and tomorrow and then they're home against the diamondbacks friday saturday and sunday and then they got a day off on monday and then two against the seattle mariners and three against the atlanta braves and possibly by that brave series as we found out yesterday's and her bo guards could be back uh after a rehab stint assuming louise camp asana was going to be back uh fairly soon as well he's been in lake elson over the last two days some good news i mean still a lot of question marks about the health of the pod race but at least some positive signs about players coming back so you're gonna be out monday i am also out monday yeah uh me and poly you'll be in first two hours gonna be me and poly solo and then tim flannery's gonna come in and shoot the breeze tell some stories for the last couple hours looking forward to that always love him he is such a a gentleman and uh really soulful soulful baseball man you guys all know flan well so uh looking forward to that on monday as well and uh let's get to some things ben likes sounds good i like good juicy sweet strawberries i like a good marching band i like a good thin pancake i like a nickelback song or two i like a barbecue chicken pizza i really like those seeds i like it midnight but fast i kind of like the smell of soft scrub i like more of a small dairier i like cake i like it sheared i like both a hamburger and a cheeseburger i like clocks i like how i've kind of set up my life i like grasshopper pie and oh no i like it creamy i like good firm banana i like just looking out at the sea i like eating i like moist i like curry i like big butts i like fried brussel sprouts i like more of a firm feeling i like corn i like Nordstrom i do like musicals i like pepperoni i like the ice hotels i like make getting a start today i like nuts i like steff curry i like that salt i like squirt i like sake i like sandy agostate i like uh straight up all abdul i like the beef and broccoli i like to mix it up i like science experiments i like that salt i like the crispiness of the waffle i really like cheese i like the little lunch meat i like very straight lines i like cannelloni i like a well crafted headline i like brown sugar i like maps i'll say i like just in turn i like going to golf games i like diving into chores i like sugar i do like butter finger i like blue and silver not bad colors i like the time change i like major league baseball's new rule i like the radio i like geography i like the knuckle method i like skippy i like pie i like but i like jace tingler too i like this day i like being right i still do like movie scores i like good food i like maps all right i like when interviews can turn into organic conversation i do like a sofa's french red pizza i like having the wind go through my hair i think i like shows that the characters have an arc i like the full lettuce tomato onion experience as well i like those kind of burgers i like the big overflowing bag of fries i like those little smarties rolls i liked what i saw from seth lugeo i like this competitive fire i like walking around between the different lands steve curd though i like that i like living on the coast i like watching tiger still i like the idea of that match up i liked what i saw in the pre-season i like the aloneness sometimes of texas hold him i like watching sanny in the state basketball i like those cashew buttered cashews i like cold clear sake i like a lot of things i like chick fillet sauce i just like rankings i like steve winwood i like pie gal poker i like to be informed on subjects i like chicago i like tom petty i like the idea of another left handed bat in the lineup for sure i do like a good matte damein film i like being on the same page i like broccoli i like brussel sprouts i like a lot of things i like this shirt i like wipe out i liked my own one i like sanny and just stay at home i like when a baseball player can be more than just a baseball player i like vanilla i like the atmosphere i like the felt on a poker table just kind of how it feels under your fingers when you're there i like rhubarb pie i like the windows see changing subject i like that i like just a standard yellow peak i like how sanny able to explain right now i like finer things i like calling a game i like fiction more than non-fiction just like the cream i actually like playing golf with other people i've liked everything i've seen so far from mike shill i like mexican food i like just the solar system i do like steak i like specifics i like going to seven mile casino during the day i like that people are there having a good time i like my new eating schedule i liked what i was eating i like the variety of the menu and sammy i do like a good midnight buffet whoo that is a lengthy extensive list am i not discriminating enough i don't think so i think you like too much that i need to start narrowing down the field a little bit and like less things jakes as i'm starting to no longer like the likes jakes that i mean that's brutal for us we have to come up with a new bit my friend that's a nice little show killer at the end jake i liked everything about this week then says yeah jakes as ben makes me want to not like things you know the alternative is things woods doesn't care about basketball most things most things yeah that's actually very short it would be short most most most things yeah i don't care what's doesn't care i don't care about that oh plus my keys i think it's tell i'm ready to go i'm like keys of my hand ready to get out of here for the weekend my friend you're off to uh santa barbara uh yes i'll be gone uh friday through monday so the the horseback riding the try not to get us fired or anything on the day i'm not well you're fine the horseback land coming in though that's cool your horseback riding yeah drinking white wine that's some red wine too some red wine too some delicious meals yeah golf oak oak grilled meats and oh my god little golf maybe some pickleball wow you know it is bougie thing it's very that i like doing very bougie please ride a horse this year i'm begging you for the content alone don't you don't really ride the horses but i'd like you to this year i'd like to get you a picture of you you've lost the weight it's true it's less onerous on the horse correct thanks to st fatloss.com i'm begging you mama higgins if you're listening get him on a horse this weekend i need the picture of him on on a steve all right that is it for us any else to coming up next have a great 4th of july holiday everybody we'll talk to you next week for paul ryanville for steeping woods i bet higgins thanks for joining us everybody so long thanks again to nick hundley just joined us that was a fun conversation final hour of bed of woods here on a wednesday heading into the fourth of july holiday now of course everything that nick hundley said about catcher framing i thought that was fascinating about when he pitched umpires would get mad if he tried to frame now everybody does it but of course that could all go away as soon as next season if they decide to go to an automated ball strike robot umpire system framing will have zero value at all it'll either be a ball or a strike you can catch it ugly catch it's soft and pretty and it won't make the bit of difference and all this work that these catchers have done for years and years on framing and you know you know how they show it to the umpire will make no difference whatsoever i'm not saying that's a bad thing i'm just saying that's a lot of work that's been put in it could be completely eradicated by one rule change yeah and and i don't know that they're discussing full-on robo umceh right it's more of the discussing that that may not be what is implemented sure okay with the challenge system then i really am because last night higgy on that lap on that pitch in the first inning would have tapped his helmet and boom strike three year out and uh i'm fine with the challenge challenges is fine i don't know how many you do i don't know how you keep it moving whatever i know that's the most important thing in baseball now to get it over with uh as far as the commissioner's office is concerned but um i i don't think you'll ever i don't know that you'll ever see full robo i really don't if only we had someone smart they could discuss this with us further oh how about that in in fact we do have someone smart and because uh tomorrow is a holiday our usual thursday guest gonna join us a little bit earlier right now on a wednesday it's time for the super polish just to be named smart baseball weekly segment with you know harris saris son of a bitch brought to you by seven mile casino just seven minutes from the ballpark by the bay in chula vista here's you know saris with bennen woods on ninety seven three the fair happy independence day to you you know what's on the of the barbeque menu at the harris or saris home um i i'm probably gonna do hamburgers um my my little secret is um and this is going to discuss some people but it's really good uh a tiny bit of fish sauce um a little bit of uh of soy sauce and then um i mix of like it's like three quarters beef one porter pork cool Eno knows umami this is what yeah this is smart that new mommy player yeah oh all right i thought you were going to say you use mayo to put the burgers together which i have heard is really really good look by extra money yeah it binds it yeah and it's a little you know a little fatty in there and a good flavor i think that'd be a decent one i may try that myself let's uh let's yeah i'll do that you do yours with fish sauce on it and we can compare uh don't disparage the fish sauce it's in a lot of things you like you just don't know it's in there you don't put a lot of it yeah you don't put a lot of it in it's not it's not like you would separate it out in which you're eating it i love a good fish burger i like my beef to taste like fish every time if i have the opportunity don't i can tell you try it all right that's fair enough so you know we were just talking with nick conley and about framing and then you know the idea of the the automated ball strike system came up how do you see it playing out how does major league baseball get a handle this because obviously that discussion is not going away anytime soon yeah i think it's going to be the challenge system like you see in tennis um and um i think that's the best outcome because it's fun uh for the viewers in tennis when they when they challenge a double fault um you know they go to the big board immediately everyone looks at it there's limited amount of challenges you look at the board and the crowd goes oh and they watch the ball bounce you know and there's like an audience participation portion of it so the challenge system is you have three challenges the batter has to challenge immediately there's no looking over to the manager to see if they should challenge um and you only have three for the game so you have to kind of hold on to them but that means no huge you can't lose the game on a bad call you know there's no uh you know if you have the bases loaded in the eighth or something then you you can challenge it um and it's immediate and there's audience participation the reason i don't like AVS as it is now is that walks and strikeouts went through the roof in the minor leagues when they instituted it um and their only sort of recompense has been to shrink the strike zone and walks and strikeouts are still kind of high and then um lastly like i i think there could be unintended consequences i think of third year romo and rich hill throwing frisbees and these huge 12 to sixers that hit the plate that the catcher catches two feet outside the strike zone but nick the strike zone and make the light go green um and uh i'm not sure that i want baseball to sort of you know end up in that direction yeah and i i've always been of the opinion that it doesn't have to be perfect it doesn't and i know it's recency bias and everything you know but i mean i'm seeing some lately that is you know the catcher may move his glove a little bit but the ball's down the middle i mean it's 96 at at the not even at the top of the zone it's down the middle and these guys are missing and i understand how hard it is you know your eyes can only catch up these guys are throwing nastier stuff than they ever have before but i do think that you know there's some some way to do it where everybody is happy i mean but then again we're talking about baseball that can't decide on a uni on a uniform baseball that is worth everybody's happy right yeah i don't think that's never exactly and one thing that we haven't seen with the umpires is that since we've had the machines uh the umpires have been trained by the machine and so i i know this was kind of hard to hear but the umpires are doing the best they've ever done yeah yeah it's true numbers it's true i think my and it's it they're pretty good it's like a 95 sort of thing so it's not you know it's not it may feel sometimes like they're guessing but you know they're they're actually pretty good i think if the system is implemented as you said with the challenges i guess my my concern or i i would just assume that with as competitive as teams are if the astros found a way to cheat stealing signals you can see instantly if it's a ball or strike some way some teams gonna figure out how to get that information to either the hitter or the catcher to make those seemingly instantaneous challenge decisions to know that they're going to be right a hundred percent of the time when they do challenge yes yes you're right they're gonna have somebody uh there there is actually right now a battle over whether the strike zone box is allowed on the ipad uh that's in the in the dugout so the umpires complained that players were using the strike zone box on the uh on the picture they could watch on the ipad um to to argue with the the umpires yeah uh because of the umpires yeah if umpires add to the box uh to be taken off and then the players union uh fought back and now the boxes are back but maybe um if they do have a challenge system you are not allowed to have boxes um on those pitches on the ipad interesting stuff talking to you know sarah's here on benefits this morning and uh you know saw trade this morning erin sevally going from the rays to the brewers uh for an infielder kind of your your thoughts on that are the rays trading from a position of depth here or they just doing what the rays do and just moving guys i i i looked up his numbers they're nothing to write home about but i'm sure you know every team needs arms every team needs innings eaten uh you know what was your kind of take on that and do you expect some more arms to be moved and if so who i mean they have a couple of guys coming back from injury and jeffrey springs and jereth nixon they're in a really tough division so it could just be an early sell um you know the they're at five hundred but they're you know they're fourth in their division um and um you know erin sevally hasn't turned out exactly if they'd hoped he's a kind of a bad fastball guy with good breaking balls uh they thought they could coax um you know you know three really good breaking balls out of there and i think um sometimes these breaking balls blend together and so i think there's just been uh they they traded calman zarda who was thought of it a pretty good hitting prospect who's struggled a little bit in the major leagues and has tried so far in cleveland um but they don't they don't look backwards and you know like oh god we got to hold on to erin sevally because we traded calman zarda for them they do have a little bit of aj in them where they're just like nope next next move next move is this you know and so they have shane bobs um who was at one point one of the best pitching prospects in the minors he's lost a little bit due to injury but he's ready to go um so they're just going to stick shane bobs in there and keep on trucking and the next person goes down hopefully you know one of their returning guys from injuries is back and you know they also want to think beyond this year so if they trade them for somebody that they have next year then that's so much the better for them they always do they always think beyond this year always we are a little different here in san diego and uh we've been talking about how creative our general manager is going to have to be there's you know there's money constraints there's prospect constraints kind of how do you see uh potentially in your gut the trade deadline for the san diego padre shaping up yeah the crochet thing is a super interesting because you can get garret crochet is probably the jewel of the deadline um because he's got years of control he throws 97 he looks like an ace and he's in chicago with the white socks and they they're not going to be good in the next two or three years as well as they have him the problem is that the most innings he's ever thrown before this year is 60 now he's at 95 or 100 um and every inning after this is sort of stepping into the unknown what if you trade for him and you have to shut him down for the playoffs or you have to turn into a reliever or whatever it is um you know that would that would affect your short term but the nice thing is you have him for the next couple of years uh so it wouldn't just be a deadline acquisition um and if there's anybody that i think would maybe uh quote-unquote throw caution to the wind um it might be a day and just say hey you know let's we're gonna let garret pitch as much as he feels good and you know we're doing that right now with michael king in a way you know and so um you might just he might just roll the dice there and maybe he can acquire crochet for a little bit less than you'd expect given all these questions about how many innings you will you'll actually give him the best otherwise is uh like a jack flarity rental uh from the tigers or you know you kind of wait for the rangers to fall out and and do a max shows are rental um but uh the clear the clear jewel is is crochet talking to you know sarah's from the athletic here and with james wood making his major league debut on monday a lot of people revisiting once again the 2022 padre's nationals one soto trade and and i imagine we're going to be doing this for decade to come we don't have to though we don't want to it's our show yeah we don't have to do it and in some ways it's it's impossible to ever really do it i mean you can you know how do you i mean you can just go straight like war for war and and who who gave you more in the future but you can't really you can't really do that because you know players then turn into other players like the padre's did with one soto and oh i can't take away a nationally championship appearance a series appearance does that happen without one soto have no idea so it really is impossible even after the fact to truly evaluate a trade i'm sorry you know and if you were gonna go back and look for it you were gonna you would have to like you'd have to realize that you know james wood had like a fifty forty chance of turning out to be even now that he looks so good he's in the big leagues he still has a sort of fifty fifty shot of of being a great player you know and so you have to think about the sort of probabilities of each thing and it does look like that trade for soto uh you know a lot of the players that he traded away in that trade are turning out to be on the better end of their probabilities you know cda rooms might be one of the worst defensive short saw some big leagues but he looks pretty good on offense and uh he's super young and they haven't forever but kenzie gore turned out to be one of the better versions of himself i think um you know it's it's lining up to be like okay you know they they did a good job in that trade but they were also trading you know a few years of one of the best hitters on the planet um and yeah the pajamas got something out of it too so you know one thing that just sort of boggles my mind is that you know jackson maryll's you know in center field playing really well and looking like a maybe even a future star himself and uh they traded away so many guys and they still have a guy like jackson maryll so um you know the the playbook is clear for preller it's just keep restocking the cupboard and keep trading them away and and hold on to a couple of them maybe even current star for jackson maryll you're nationally rookie of the month that's right of this this morning you know you have a very good fourth of july holiday uh good weekend and we'll talk to you again next week all right thank god you know sera so the athletic or smart baseball segment brought to you by seven mile casino joe your fish burger you know it doesn't really taste like fish what do i put it in there it it's it just kind of amplifies the flavor of other things why wouldn't it be meat sauce then mmm well i mean it is made from fish heavily beef oils just an accurate name wouldn't you want your beef to taste more like beef like you like beef oil you love chilula right yeah love chilula it's got that kind of what mochi kind of you say sometimes smells like feet a little bit yeah that's what fish sauce is it's got that extra kind of foot kind of funk to it it just makes everything taste better okay i mean if you like this taste of smelly feet then yes it sounds like it's right i think you do which i i think you do i could be all right paul he's got a rondel report coming up we'll look ahead to the match up tonight uh pod raise rangers game two of the series all ahead after a check traffic here on 97-3 the fan pod raise like most teams are in need of starting pitching depth i brought up a name during the break that woods did not seem interested in but yesterday the texas rangers uh parted ways well i i guess johnny quato opted out of his minor league deal with the texas rangers now johnny quato is over the hill he's not the johnny quato that was really good picture by the way for sit good good chunk of time back in the 2010s johnny quato was one of the top pictures in the national league for a while it's not that anymore but you know he's got his experience and if he's healthy there's a team that's going to want to take a flyer i would think at some point on johnny quato here yard barker uh which is a baseball website as them uh has him potentially helping out the san francisco giants which he has a long history back there the new york metz and the boston red socks so i i don't know i mean are we in a position to turn down anyone at this point on a on a minor league deal uh i think the answer to that question is no but doesn't blow my hair i will say that any time you pair a picture with rubin the abler there is some intrigue there because there's a track record of whatever magic that rubin the abler has working i mean look at uh big fudge your new favorite love big fudge uh austin davis uh and and the changes they i've seen some side-by-side videos uh some of the panda race twitter accounts from 2022 versus 2024 and just the incredible amount of extra movement he's getting now i mean coach fudge yeah yeah coaching does make a difference we not learn enough though from richill last year someone just zax said uh smells like dick mountain all over it absolutely does that's true too it absolutely absolutely feels like a different version of dick mountain and uh i that was excruciating to watch i don't know how you guys feel about it but that was it's arietta it's dick mountain it gives me it gives me like panic attack feeling trying to remember last year didn't have a ton of major injuries to our rotation right certainly not our our top two guys so you know ag kind of went around the margins the year we got arietta all the injuries happened right after the trade deadline yeah like right after like the day after the trade deadline so we were kind of screwed there that's when you had to go get jake arietta in august off waver you know whatever vince of elasquez so now agie knows and he knows better than us what the future holds for this season with darvision and must grow in particular like he knows he's got to go out and make some moves yeah i don't think there's any question uh janine who is just my favorite she's incredible in the chat she goes i don't know ceas is pretty awful to watch too he has his uh moments he has his moments in my in my mind when i watch dylan ceas i go all right he may be off to a rough start he gave up a two-run homer in the first the the reasoning i had with myself was at least he's throwing 98 i mean he's up there he's gassing it up there if he can hone it if he can figure out a little mechanical adjustment whatever but they they pounded him really really good last night they really really got to them uh and did as nick on lee said a lot of damage off him a lot of doubles a lot of home runs i mean everything was for extra vases last night but you know i just i don't i don't watch dylan ceas and i'm not filled with rage like i was when i watched rich hill pitch you know rich hill story 61 miles an hour up there and i'm going i'm kind of like mike shilt i mean i know dylan ceas hasn't been perfect but i'm not worried about dylan ceas he i'm not he's got the stuff still i mean he will be on or he won't yeah but i rather have him out there than on honestly and i know it sounds like i'm such a hater but today's starter again out of nature is getting another chance because the pod race don't have any better options i hope he's not pitching again because he's done so well he's pitching again because the pod race don't have any other options i hope mister and missus measure do not listen to the venin woods program i'm sorry for his vitriol about your son and i don't know if johnnie quiddo would be a better option right now than adam mason can i say no can i just say no can i say no he wouldn't be necessarily wrong but there's got to be someone out there that's not that you don't have to give up your entire farm system for they could be an upgrade right now over adam mason now adam mason in in a couple of months or next season or in two years might be a really decent fine starting picture but he's not there yet and the pod race right now are three games above 500 in a massive battle with all kinds of teams for a playoff spot and they continue every fifth or sixth day to hand the ball to someone who's not quite ready to be a a regular big league starter it's too bad we're not on tomorrow because he's going to shove tonight he's going to absolutely shove i hope he does we'll be left with egg on your face adam mason you're going to shove against the texas rangers i forgot about i had forgotten about when southern ben out of nowhere one day popped up it's an authentic show here in dallas the texas rangers texas the texas right here the texas rangers here with my family and my family where would where was that from i wasn't asked to do a southern accident no you just did it you just did it and i we said did you just do a southern accent it's very very good that wasn't one march march it must have been the the tier one tour maybe we were talking about the rangers yeah let's hear it again the texas rangers yee hall that is on the leave of the texas rangers got my ten gallon texas hat on rangers talking about my texas rangers the texas rangers that was so good it's so good you're like a chameleon wherever you go that's where you are adam azure tonight and uh against john gray who you had the numbers i think earlier twelve and very successful twelve and six two nine nine one it maybe beat them one out of every three times maybe this will be one of the three that they actually get john gray yeah it feels like you're gonna need more than you know a runner to offensively to win this game tonight yes you wanted uh what did you say they've scored one run in their last 19 innings after scoring 20 runs in their previous 13 innings feast or famine again since we were we were felt like we were here climbing out of the feast or famine hole we were right back in it it's like they woke up and they're like oh just because five games above 500 just because your feasting doesn't mean you're out of the feast or famine cycle yeah listen i knew they weren't going to feast the entire rest of season but a snack or two in the middle of it you know if you're not feasting have a meal can you go from eight nine eleven runs to four six four five whatever fine right does it always have to do yeah twelve no thirteen one i mean it's last season that's last season as well exactly right right the ship today fellas right the ship please gonna need uh more gonna need more from i would say the top of the order i mean that's why they hit at the top of the order because they're really good our top of the order lessons like oh for four oh for 15 or something so yeah gonna need more from the top uh certainly tonight against john gray all right we're gonna take our final time out and then we'll come back and polys got his rindle report headlines for us and we'll wrap up our short week here heading into the fourth of july holiday with more better woods on san diego's number one sports station ninety seven three the fan this hour ninety seven three the fan is brought to you by the frozen ropes baseball and softball training facilities frozen ropes now signing up athletes aged six through twelve for baseball and softball summer camps half day and full day options are available make it a frozen rope summer like bow woods for more information visit san diego frozen ropes dot com at san diego frozen ropes dot com the game on sunday buddy it's excited when now when does your uh tier one start again sunday sunday no i mean imagine winning the world series in october and two weeks later they're like all right you're back at it fellas uh there's no string training just come on back don't get it confused what we just went through it was basically like it was like a six month grind it's exactly right exactly right you played 12 game 14 i think 14 something like that something like that once a week uh yeah once a week we had a double header we did have that one double header it was very hot then we had a double header when we won the championship that was hot i've never seen guys play two on a for real world series uh but now we're right back at it this week we'll be at vista sports complex at nine a.m. on sunday taking on the team we just beat in the championship the Aztec so i'm sure they're gonna come hungry and ready to play we'll see if the world series hang over is real for the tier one baseball team all right we've got some uh rattle report headlines coming up right after a final check of traffic here on 97 three the fan and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rattle report now tuned into the mof greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97 three the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a whole year all right all right paul you got to irie fan geek in the chat says he's uh in north park right now he needs a shout out because he's uh stranded he needs to jump okay so well i'm gonna get out of here i'm gonna give him a jump go give him a jump do you well there's tier ones everywhere tier one you get a battery cables and you can uh and you can give a fellow tier one a jump starts in the area find him right now uh just as an aside pauli before you get in trust tree i'm looking at you if you had to well i wouldn't know how that's what i'm saying if you had to jump my car no idea i i assume there's like you know you got those clamps and they're then what you do i don't know you don't know where to put it i don't know where to put it i would i would hate to blow up your car accidentally by connecting the anode to the diode or whatever it's supposed to do i don't know i'm not a good mechanical engineer no well maybe actually i can't i am so i am so car inept i don't even know is there a compartment where they might be hiding like in the back of my car somewhere it's possible and certainly it's possible i don't you just match the colors man it's really is that what you do just google it watch a youtube video something yeah i i mean i feel my own washer fluid thanks to a youtube video so maybe i could jump start a car well hopefully somebody goes and helps irie in north park right now yes um a little update on a story immediately baseball i have triple a baby that's what i have killed me baby little update on star we discussed uh the other day we've got some closure on it show hey otani will not be participating in the home run derby in a couple of weeks do you guys see him smoke that kid in the face last night with his home run yes oh my god yeah i think he should be suspended for the rest of the season yeah for sure and it's egregious yeah i mean the gambling he's gambling the children child abuse i mean what are we doing here man god this gets this guy out of the game he uh now he had expressed interest like he still wanted to play but he said i'm i'm gonna follow the you know guidance of the team doctors and what my manager wants and he said uh last night through an interpreter i'm in the middle of my rehab progression so it's not going to look like i'll be participating so all right he's out kind of bummer i mean i'd like to see him in it he's one of the best power hitters in on the planet and he's only done it once you know it's like brawn never did the dunk contest so that would have been cool so stupid i'd like to see erin judge in the home run derby every every year every year i understand it it's also you know supposed to be time off for them but you're gonna be the all-star game might as well do it might as well do it we're just really hoping it ruins his swing but something tells me it wouldn't probably not have been the first guy who actually gets locked in to the home run derby i'm just feeling so much i can feel like i'm seeing it so much better now all those extra reps and goes and hits 50 in the second half of the season so i'm in the WNBA mode i'm excited i'm going to my first WNBA game on friday nights very nice we're going to go up to LA and we'll see the sparks play the Las Vegas aces where's the game uh crypto dot com crypto dot com staple center and uh so the the aces their home arena is actually the michalob ultra arena at mandalay bay they were playing the indiana fever yesterday in vegas kaitlyn clark draws a huge crowd on the road so they moved this game from their home arena over to t mobile arena where the golden knights play and they sold that mother out saw some aerial footage footage from the top of the arena every seat was completely packed um it was an all-time record for that arena now the arena is not very old but they've had Stanley cup finals games there yeah been did point out earlier when we were talking about it off the air uh the capacity is different because the hockey rink takes up much more space than the power that was last night last night and uh yeah says 20,366 fans in attendance at t mobile arena it's the largest t mobile arena crowd in history and the largest WNBA crowd since 1999 by the way our uh sandy auger's own kelsey plum crew a season high 34 points in the win for the aces excited to see her play on Friday nights you don't get to see your beloved human caring she tore her aces she's out for a while she might be there she might she might be there no i'd probably expect her to be there uh and then we were also talking off the air the uh WNBA all-star teams were announced in the rookie sensations angel reese kaitlyn clark they did make the all-star team but then you're explaining how the all-star game works here because of the olympics they're gonna have team USA is one of the teams which obviously is filled with WNBA all-stars and then there's another team of non-team USA WNBA all-stars like kaitlyn clark and angel reese and they're gonna play against each other so team WNBA versus team US so basically yeah like twice as many all-stars as usual making up two teams that are going to play against each other but it's kind of a tune up for team USA playing probably the second best team in the world is going to be the rest of the all-stars in the WNBA so that was pretty actually entertaining format i would think yeah not bad at all and it gets kaitlyn clark there and gets angel reese there and that should be kind of interesting and then finally another update on a story that we discussed a while ago but this is not sports related you guys remember we talked about um red lobster was going out of business or looking to be filing for bankruptcy and that really really upset flavor flavor yeah flavor flavor was not happy he loves his red lobster he posted a picture that week he bought every single item on the menu had it delivered to his house and just set up a feast of red lobster and red lobster was so moved by that gesture that they have added a item to their menu called flavor-flaves faves that's clever costs uh 42.99 and the item consists of a main lobster tail paired with half pound snow crab legs served with garlic shrimp scampi bacon mac and cheese and the choice of one side dish so are they going out of business or are they not are they just doing new well bankruptcy is not out of business that's true you continue on and you just reorganize and you move forward people continue to need to eat seafood it's not stopping just because they had some financial difficulties people need their their shrimp and their crab legs yep their lobster tails and their bacon mac and cheese but a little fish sauce in there yellow fish take up the mama no beef sauce no beef sauce in the fish tastes more like fish that's what i learned today fish sauce makes beef taste more like beef so then beef oil will make your fish taste more like fish possibly if logic serves to first i like flavor-flaves faves yeah flavor-flaves faves play over his favorite things 42.99 i know sounds like a lot we're getting a lobster tail in there yeah i mean lobster is pricey it is even at the red lobster it's in the name should we do ben's likes we haven't done it in weeks yeah we have a couple minutes but yeah we probably should because we hadn't gotten to it the last couple of fries we added any poly it's a wednesday no remember we kind of just we do it in in big spurt's chunk we're getting i have to like some things we're getting close before i can before you can add our numbers usually about 50 per per segment and i think our in fourth instalments at like 30 it's going to be 14 minutes straight of things that you like out of measure not on the list of books not one day maybe you'll make the likes that poor kid not there yet yeah he's gonna go six shut out any tonight and then maybe he'll make the likes all right i like out of measure i like what he did the other night i like this breaking ball can't wait oh um what do we got so but between now and when we come back next week pod rays finish the series against the rangers yep today and tomorrow and then they're home against the diamondbacks friday saturday and sunday and then they get a day off on monday and then two against the seattle mariners and three against the atlanta braves and possibly by that brave series as we found out yesterday's antibogards could be back uh after a rehab stint assuming louise campus anu is going to be back fairly soon as well he's been in lake elson over the last two days some good news i mean still a lot of question marks about the health of pod rays but at least some positive signs about players coming back so you're going to be out monday i am also out monday yeah uh me and poly you'll be in first two hours gonna be me and poly solo and then Tim Flannery's gonna come in and shoot the breeze tell some stories for the last couple hours looking forward to that always love him he is such a uh a gentleman and uh really soulful soulful baseball man you guys all know flan well so uh looking forward to that on monday as well and uh let's get to some things ben likes sounds good i like a juicy sweet strawberries i like a good marching band i like a good thin pancake i like a nickelback song or two i like a barbecue chicken pizza i really like those seeds i like a midnight buffet i kind of like the smell of soft scrub i like more of a small dairier i like cake i like it sheared i like both a hamburger and a cheeseburger i like clocks i like how i've kind of set up my life i like grasshopper pie oh no i like it creamy i like good firm banana i like just looking out at the sea i like eating i like moist i like curry i like big butts i like fried brussel sprouts i like more of a firm feeling i like corn i like Nordstrom i do like musicals i like pepperoni i like dice hotels i like nick getting a start today i like nuts i like steff curry i like that song i like squirt i like sake i like sandy agastate i like uh straight up polybule i like the beef and broccoli i like to mix it up i like science experiments i like that song i like the crispiness of the waffle i really like cheese i like the little lunch meat i like very straight lines i like cannelloni i like a well-crafted headline i like brown sugar i like maps i'll say i like just internal i like going to goals games i like diving into chores like sugar i do like better finger i like blue and silver not bad colors i like the time change i like major league baseball's new rule i like the radio i like geography i like the knuckle method i like skippy i like pie i like but i like jase tingler too i like this day i like being right i still do like movie scores i like good food i like maps i like when interviews can turn into organic conversation i do like a chauffeur's french red pizza i like having the wind go through my hair i think i like shows that the characters have an arc i like the full lettuce tomato onion experience as well i like those kind of burgers i like a big overflowing bag of fries i like those little smarties rolls i liked what i saw from selugo i like this competitive fire i like walking around between the different lands steve cur though i like that i like living on the coast i like watching tiger still i like the idea of that match up i liked what i saw in the preseason i like the aloneness sometimes of texas hold up i like watching saying to state basketball i like those cashew buttered cashews i like cold clear sake i like a lot of things i like chick fillet sauce i just like rankings i like steve windwood i like pie gal poker i like to be informed on subjects i like chicago i like tumpetty i like the idea of another left-handed bat in the lineup for sure i do like a good matt damein film i like being on the same page i like broccoli i like brussel sprouts i like a lot of things i like this shirt i like wipe out i liked my omelette i like sandy and just stayed at home i like when a baseball player can be more than just a baseball player i like vanilla i like the atmosphere i like the felt on a poker table just kind of how it feels under your fingers when you're there i like rhubarb pie i like the window seat changing the subject i like that i like just a standard yellow peak i like how sandy able to explain right now i like finer things i like calling a game i like fiction more than nonfiction just like the cream i actually like playing golf with other people i've liked everything i've seen so far from mike shill i like mexican food i like just the solar system i do like steak i like specifics i like going to seven-mile casino during the day i like that people are there having a good time i like my new eating schedule i liked what i was eating i like the variety of the menu and sammy i do like a good midnight buffet is a lengthy extensive list am i not discriminating enough i don't think so i think you like too much that i need to start narrowing down the field a little bit and like less things jakes as i'm starting to no longer like the likes jakes that i mean that's brutal for us we have to come up with a new bit my friend that's a nice little uh show killer at the end jake i liked everything about this week ben says he uh jakes as ben makes me want to not like things i know the alternative is things woods doesn't care about basketball most things most things yeah that's the else it actually be very short it would be short most most most things yes i don't care don't care what's doesn't care i don't care about that oh plus my keys see can tell i'm ready to go like keys of my hand ready to get out of here for the weekend my friend you're off to uh santa barbara uh yes i'll be gone uh friday through monday so the horseback riding is the try not to get us fired or anything on the day i'm not here no we'll be fine the horse band coming in though that's cool your horseback riding yeah drinking white wine well some red wine too some red wine too some delicious meals yeah golf oak oak grilled meats and oh my god little golf maybe some pickleball wow you know it is bougie thing it's very that i like do it very please ride a horse this year i'm begging you for the content alone don't you don't really ride the horses but i'd like you to this year i'd like to get you a picture of you you've lost the weight it's true less onerous on the horse correct thanks to st fat loss dot com i'm begging you mama higgins if you're listening get him on a horse this weekend i need the picture of him on off on a steve all right that is it for us any else coming up next have a great 4th of july holiday everybody we'll talk to you next week for paul ryan over steven woods i bet higgins thanks for joining us everybody so long this hour at 97 through the fannas brought to you by the frozen ropes baseball and softball training facilities frozen ropes now signing up athletes aged six through 12 for baseball and softball summer camps half day and full day options are available make it a frozen rope summer like bow woods for more information visit san diego frozen ropes dot com at san diego frozen ropes dot com the game on sunday buddy it's excited when now when does your uh tier one start again sunday sunday no i mean imagine winning the world series in october and two weeks later they're like all right you're back at it fellas uh did no string training just come on back don't get it confused what we just went through was basically like it was like a six month grind it's exactly right exactly right you played 12 game 14 i think 14 something like that something like that once a week uh yeah once a week we had a double header we did have that one double header it was very hot we then we had a double header when we won the championship that was hot i've never seen guys play two on them for a real world series uh but now we're right back at it this week we'll be at vista sports complex at nine a.m. on sunday taking on the team we just beat in the championship the Aztec so i'm sure they're gonna come hungry and ready to play we'll see if the world series hang over is real for the tier one baseball team all right we've got some arrival report headlines coming up right after a final check of traffic here on 97-3 the fan and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rindel report now tuned into the m of greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a hoe yeah all right all right paul you got to iri fan geek in the chat says he's uh in north park right now he needs a shout out because he's stranded he needs jump okay so well i'm gonna get out of here i'm gonna give him a jump go give him a jump do you well there's tier ones everywhere tier one you get a battery cables and you can uh and you can give a fellow tier one uh jump starts in the area find him right now uh just as an aside pauli before you get in trust tree i'm looking at you if you had to well i wouldn't know how that's what i'm saying if you had to jump my car okay no idea i i assume there's like you know you got those clamps and they're then what you do i don't know you don't know where to put it i don't know where to put it i would i would hate to blow up your car accidentally by connecting the anode to the diode or whatever it's supposed to do i don't know i'm not a good mechanical engineer no well maybe actually i can't i am so i am so car inept i don't even know is there a compartment where they might be hiding like in the back of my car somewhere it's possible and certainly it's possible i don't you just match the colors man it's really is that what you do just google it watch a youtube video something yeah i i mean i feel my own washer fluid thanks to a youtube video so maybe i could jump start a car well hopefully somebody goes and helps irie in north park right now yes uh we'll update on a story immediately baseball i have triple a maybe that's what i have kill me maybe we'll update on start we discussed uh the other day we've got uh some closure on it show hey oh tawny will not be participating in the home run derby in a couple of weeks do you guys see him smoke that kid in the face last night with his home run yes oh my god yeah i think he should be suspended for the rest of the season yeah for sure and it's egregious yeah i mean the gambling he's the gambling the children child abuse i mean what are we doing here man god this gets this guy out of the game he uh now he had expressed interest like he still wanted to play but he said i'm i'm gonna follow the you know guidance of the team doctors and what my manager wants and he said uh last night through interpreter i'm in the middle of my rehab progression so it's not going to look like i'll be participating so all right he's out kind of bummer i mean i'd like to see a minute he's one of the best power hitters in on the planet and he's only done it once you know it's like brawn never did the dunk contest so that would have been cool so stupid i'd like to see erin judge in the home run derby every every year every year i understand it it's also you know supposed to be time off for them but you're gonna be in the all-star game might as well do it might as well do it we're just really hoping it ruins his swing but something tells me it wouldn't probably not have been the first guy who actually gets locked in regards to the home run derby i'm just feeling so much i can feel like i'm seeing it so much better now all those extra reps and goes and hits 50 in the second half of the season so i'm in uh wmba mode i'm excited i'm going to my first wmba game on friday night very nice we're going to go up to la and we'll see the sparks play the los vegas aces where's the game uh crypto dot com crypto dot com staple center and uh so the the aces their home arena is actually the micholove ultra arena at mandolay bay they were playing the indiana fever yesterday in vegas katelyn clark draws a huge crowd on the road so they moved this game from their home arena over to t mobile arena where the gold nights play and they sold that mother out saw some aerial footage from the top of the arena every seat was completely packed um it was an all-time record for that arena now the arena is not very old but they've had stanley cup finals games there now ben did point out earlier when we were talking about it off the air uh the capacity is different because the hockey rank takes up much more space then wow that was last night when last night and uh yeah it says 20,366 fans in attendance at uh t mobile arena it's the largest t mobile arena crowd in history and the largest wmba crowd since 1999 by the way our uh san dieger's own kelsey plum grew a season high 34 points in the win for the aces excited to see her play on friday nights you don't get to see your beloved kim and karen she tore her race so she's out for a while she might be there she might she might be there no i'd probably expect her to be there uh and then we were also talking off the air the uh wmba all-star teams were announced in the rookie sensations angel reese katelyn clark they did make the all-star team but ben you're explaining how the all-star game works here because of the olympics they're going to have team usa is one of the teams which obviously is filled with wmba all-stars and then there's another team of non-team usa wmba all-stars like katelyn clark and angel reese and they're going to play against each other so team wmba versus team usa basically yeah like twice as many all-stars as usual making up two teams that are going to play against each other but it's kind of a tune up for team usa playing uh probably the second best team in the world is going to be the rest of the all-stars in the wmba so that was pretty actually entertaining format i would think yeah not bad at all and it gets katelyn clark there and gets angel reese there and that should be kind of interesting and then finally another update on a story that we discussed a while ago but this is not sports related you guys remember we talked about um red lobster was going out of business or looking to be filing for bankruptcy and that really really upset flavor flavor yeah flavor flavor was not happy he loves his red lobster he posted a picture that week he bought every single item on the menu had delivered to his house and just set up a feast of red lobster and red lobster was so moved by that gesture that they have added a items to their menu called flavor-flaves faves that's clever costs uh 4299 and the item consists of a main lobster tail paired with half pound snow crab legs served with garlic shrimp scampi bacon mac and cheese and the choice of one side dish so are they going out of business or are they not are they just doing new well bankruptcy is not out of business that's true you continue on and you just reorganize and you move forward people continue to need to eat seafood it's not stopping just because they had some financial difficulties people need their their shrimp and their crab legs yep and their lobster tails and their bacon mac and cheese with a little fish sauce in there yellow fish pick up the mama no beef sauce beef sauce in the fish tastes more like fish that's what i learned today fish sauce makes beef taste more like beef so then beef oil will make your fish taste more like fish possibly if logic serves it's it for us i like flavor-flaves faves yeah flavor-flaves faves 4299 i know sounds like a lot we're getting a lobster tail in there yeah i mean lobster is pricey it is even at the red lobster it's in the name should we do ben's likes we haven't done we should yeah we got a couple minutes but yeah we probably should because we hadn't gotten to it the last couple of fries added any poly it's a wednesday no remember we kind of just we do it in and big and spurt's chunk we're getting i have to like some things we get close before i can before you can add our numbers usually about 50 per per segment and i think our in fourth instalments at like 30 it's going to be 14 minutes straight of things that you like out of measure not on the list of books you know that one day maybe you'll make the likes that poor kid not there yet yeah he's gonna go six shutout innings tonight and then maybe he'll make the likes all right i like got a measure i like what he did the other night i like this breaking ball can't wait oh um what what do we got so but between now and when we come back next week pod raise finish the series against the rangers yep today and tomorrow and then they're home against the diamondbacks friday saturday and sunday and then they get a day off on monday and then two against the Seattle mariners and three against the atlanta braves and possibly by that brave series as we found out yesterday's antibogards could be back uh after a rehab stint assuming louise campus sauna was going to be back uh fairly soon as well he's been in lake elson over the last two days some good news i mean still a lot of question marks about the health of the pod raise but at least some positive signs about players coming back so you're going to be out monday i'm also out monday yeah uh me and poly you'll be in first two hours gonna be me and poly solo and then tim flannery's gonna come in and shoot the breeze tell some stories for the last couple hours looking forward to that always love him he is such a uh a gentleman and uh really soulful soulful baseball man you guys all know flan well so uh looking forward to that on monday as well and uh let's get to some things Ben likes sounds good i like good juicy sweet strawberries i like a good marching band i like a good thin pancake i like a nickelback song or two i like a barbecue chicken pizza i really like those seeds i like a midnight buffet i kind of like the smell of soft scrub i like more of a small dairier i like cake i like it sheared i like both a hamburger and a cheeseburger i like clocks i like how i've kind of set up my life i like grasshopper pie oh no i like it creamy i like good firm banana i like just looking out at the sea i like eating i like moist i like curry i like big butts i like fried brussel sprouts i like more of a firm feel like i like corn i like Nordstrom i do like musicals i like pepperoni i like nice hotels i like make getting a start today i like nuts i like steff curry i like that song i like squirt i like sucky i like sandy agostate i like uh straight up paul abdull i like the beef and broccoli i like to mix it up i like science experiments i like that song i like the crispiness of the waffle i really like cheese i like the little lunch meat i like very straight lines i like cantaloney i like a well crafted headline i like brown sugar i like maps i'll say i like just internal i like going to golf games i like diving into chores i like sugar i do like butter finger i like blue and silver not bad colors i like the time change i like majorly baseball's new rule i like the radio i like geography i like the knuckle method i like skippy i like pie i like ball i like jake tingler too i like this day i like being right i still do like movie scores i like good food i like maps i like when interviews can turn into organic conversation i do like a sofars french red pizza i like having the wind go through my hair i think i like shows that the characters have an arc i like the full lettuce tomato onion experience as well i like those kind of burgers i like a big overflowing bag of fries i like those little smarties rolls i liked what i saw from seth lugo i like this competitive fire i like walking around between the different lands steve kurt though i like that i like living on the coast i like watching tiger still i like the idea of that matchup i liked what i saw in the pre-season i like the aloneness sometimes of texas hold them i like watching sanny and state basketball i like those cashew buttered cashews i like cold clear sake i like a lot of things i like chick fillet sauce i just like rankings i like steve winwood i like pie gal poker i like to be informed on subjects i like chicago i like tumpetty i like the idea of another left-handed bat in the lineup for sure i do like a good matt damein film i like being on the same page i like broccoli i like brussel sprouts i like a lot of things i like this shirt i like wipe out i liked my omelette i like sandy and just stayed at home i like when a baseball player can be more than just a baseball player i like vanilla i like the atmosphere i like the felt on a poker table just kind of how it feels under your fingers when you're there i like rubar pie i like the window seat changing the subject i like that i like just a standard yellow peak i like how sanny even states playing right now i like finer things i like calling a game i like fiction more than nonfiction just like the cream i actually like playing golf with other people i've liked everything i've seen so far from mike shill i like mexican food i like just the solar system i do like steak i like specifics i like going to seven-mile casino during the day i like that people are there having a good time i like my new eating schedule i liked what i was eating i like the variety of the menu and sammy i do like a good midnight buffet that is a lengthy extensive list am i not discriminating enough i don't think so i think you like too much that i need to start narrowing down the field a little bit and like less things jakes as i'm starting to no longer like the likes jakes that i mean that's brutal for us we have to come up with a new bit my friend that's a nice little show killer at the end jake i liked everything about this week ben says yeah jakes as ben makes me want to not like things i know well the alternative is things woods doesn't care about basketball most things most things but yeah that's the it's actually very short it would be short most most most things yes i don't care don't care what's doesn't care i don't care about that oh plus my keys sink into tell i'm ready to go i like keys in my hand ready to get out of here for the weekend my friend you're off to uh santa barbara uh yes i will be gone uh friday through monday so the horseback riding is the try not to get us fired or anything on the day i'm not here no we'll be fine the horseback land coming in though that's cool your horseback riding yeah drinking white wine that's some red wine too some red wine too some delicious meals yeah golf oak oak grilled meats and oh my god little golf maybe some pickleball wow you know it is bougie thing very that i like doing very bougie please ride a horse this year i'm begging you for the content alone don't you don't really ride the horses but i'd like you to this year i'd like to get you a picture of you you've lost the weight it's true it's less onerous on the horse correct thanks to sdfatloss.com i'm begging you mama Higgins if you're listening get him on a horse this weekend i need the picture of him on off on the steve all right that is it for us any else coming up next have a great fourth of july holiday everybody we'll talk to you next week for paul ryanville for steve and woods i bet hiccans thanks for joining us everybody so long hey fantasy football fans this is zach from upper hand fantasy you don't want an embarrassing tattoo just because you lost a bet in your fantasy football league right if you do i suggest i'm remade holding a football but let's avoid that altogether bras and i are here to get you ready for your fantasy football drafts with insights and advice from sleepers to bust we've got you covered to give you the upper hand on your friends start your fantasy football prep now join us and stay ahead of the competition follow and listen to upper hand fantasy on the free audency app or wherever you get your podcasts trying to figure out what to eat for dinner yet again with north sides and bouillon is your not so secret ingredient you can skip the drive-through and do dinner at home nor taste combos provide a menu of delicious affordable and well-balanced meals that you can prepare in 30 minutes or less visit nor.com to get quick and easy recipe ideas for your home cooked weeknight dinners it's not fast food but it's so good what kind of programs does this school have how are the test scores how many kids do a classroom homes.com those these are all things you ask when you're home shopping as a parent that's why each listing on homes.com includes extensive reports on local schools including photos parent reviews test scores student teacher ratio school rankings and more the information is from multiple trusted sources and curated by homes.com's dedicated in-house research team it's also you can make the right decision for your family homes.com we've done your homework today's episode is sponsored by nerd wallets smart money podcast get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds nerd wallets experts will set future you up for success with dependable fact-based insights no financial misinformation allowed learn how to save on your summer vacation find your next credit card or loan for a big purchase and invest in your next index fund make smarter decisions in 2024 follow nerd wallets smart money podcast on your favorite podcast app.