Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast
Tuesday June 25th, 2024 - FULL SHOW
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Learn how to save on your summer vacation, find your next credit card, or loan for a big purchase, and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow Nerd Wallet's smart money podcast on your favorite podcast app. Well, we needed a hero in the worst way last night. He's not a jukebox hero. He is a one million dollar a year hero for the San Diego Padres. Thank you, jerks and pro for batter's box hero. He is a batter's box hero. He is a Washington Nationals target. Give me one real quick. Hang on. Yeah, that's what I needed. I told Paulie this morning I'm in desperate need of primal scream therapy. Summer is off to a rough start in the woods household. This is hard. Lots of juggle. Want to go to those rage rooms? More than anything. Oh, God. I've done that. You have a fun. It was made for me, man. It was made for I just saw stars, by the way, I'd scream so loud. I'm seeing stars right now. Great to be here with you guys. Ben Woods, 97-3, the fan. Nothing like completely turning your vocal cords into hamburger meat at 602. You know, on the heels are at the very beginning of a four hour set. And that's what I just did. Well, you can't cheer when the actual, you know, winning run happens because everyone in your house is asleep. Yeah, for hours, for hours they were asleep. And I was, it was one of those where I hopped out of bed and went, it was incredible, an incredible, incredible win. Oh, you sons of, you guys make me insane, man. You're going to kill this entire city. But hopefully you guys stayed up for it last night. If not, you know what, I really don't blame you. I damn near turned it off after the home run to and went to bed. But I just wanted to see what these San Diego Padres would do. And boy, did they, did they deliver? I'm just, I'm in awe of that that win last night. And we'll talk about it. We'll talk about all the good, the bad, the ugly, all the stuff that happened pregame and all that. But holy smokes, let me introduce the show. I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Rinder. He's the executive producer. Good morning, Paulie. Good morning. We have not gotten into yet. I let you off the hook yesterday. Your world's colliding with Taylor Swift who you love and Dave Grohl who you love as well. And their factions of fans warring in social media. Yes, it was insane. I spent, oh, I'll make it real quick. I think it's all stupid. Okay, fighting. It's all really stupid. Okay, both sides, both fans. All right. All right. Because I stupid. I don't, I don't understand it. I don't know why it's happening. I don't either get it. And I thought to myself when it happened, I went, Oh, this, this is like, uh, I mean, this is like a Greek tragedy, right? It's like, man, I love her, but I love him. And this is, this is very, very difficult. Ben had looking at me. He has no idea what I'm talking about. No, I didn't, uh, Dave Grohl say something about Taylor Swift not performing everything live using backing tracks, backing tracks and not a hundred percent live during her four hour concert, which Dave, by the way, not that uncommon for a pop artist. It's just not, it's just, I don't know why you would get upset by that. Now on Dave said, we do a four hour concert every morning and we're pretty much entirely live. I would love to play a backing track for as much as we could just us in the background talking. If you need a breather, you've got one, take a breath, whatever, but I let Paul me off the hook yesterday. I was driving away. Damn it. How did I forget to ask him about this? Ben Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor and pop culture guru yesterday learned about Hock Toa. And that was a lot of fun on the program. It's good to have you. Good morning. Or is that my backing tracks? That's your back shore track. I loved it. I loved it. I loved every second of, uh, of that victory last night. Not every second. Every second of the victory. Will you win it? It was over. Yeah. There was a period from three nothing to my soul. Three six. That wasn't exactly the most enjoyable part of the season. It's like we've said now several times over the last, what, 10 days, walkoffs feel pretty damn good in the moment when they happen, but walkoffs genuinely aren't usually a great thing. It means you're down, man. It means you're down. There's the rare exception. Like, hey, we just didn't have it tonight. We fought and clawed back. But more often than not, it's like how we blew it. We blew it. We came back and we ended up holding it off. Oh, God, man. I just, I had, I just, I had no, I had almost, I had a little bit of faith, a little bit, uh, last night, but I just, I had faith in score one. I had faith that they'd score the runner on second. I did too. We'll break down the game and all that. But man, I don't know how much more of this I can take. And like I said, I said this, maybe last week, Benny, I said, boy, this team sure burns a lot of fuel, man, to keep around 500. They really do. I mean, they are burning a tremendous amount of fuel to keep a game over 500. And I think there's credit that needs to be given for that. I think there is. This team could have fallen off the cliff many, many times. They still may. They still may. It's stupid baseball. We all understand that, but oh my Lord. Oh my Lord. That win last night. You know what? I was laying in bed thinking about it last night because I was wired. I was absolutely wired. I didn't get sleep till midnight. I mean, I just could not sleep. I was so fired up and, and the Twitter went nuts after with all the, the Nationals getting their, you know, panties in a bunch about it. And Jesse Wanker almost going into the stands after a 66 year old man. And there's a lot to break down about this, this, you know, this game last night. But I was thinking to myself last night, remember how there were just a real lack of moments with this team, really, like a real severe lack of moments. You look back to last year was such a disappointing season. The only moment she got, really, you got Fernando Tatis Jr. stealing home. I mean, that's really the only one that jumps out at me. And then of course, when they're well out of it, you know, they fought back a little bit at the end of the season when ProFAR came back and they won some games, won quite a few games, but it was just too little too late. There's already been a dozen. There's been a dozen moments in, in 80 games, been that have just been spectacular and exciting and incredible. Much more like 2022. Much more like 2020 filled with the LFG SD. Yeah. You know, Jorge Alfaro's walk off home runs. There were special moments that ended up in a special season. I don't know that this team is heading on that same trajectory or to the same end point, but I do know it's probably going to take more of this for the Padres to continue, you know, battling their way into a playoff spot because with the injuries that they have, and we'll talk about the injuries, they're going to need different guys to continue to step up. They're going to need better, more consistent starting pitching. They're going to need their bullpen to come through because they simply have lacked the star players staying healthy, staying on the field, and producing that the way they need to produce. And now with Fernando Tetti's junior, likely out, and you may have heard what Mike Schiltz said yesterday, but he is out almost certainly through the all-star break and probably even a little bit beyond that, I would guess they're going to need more guys to step up, not just Jirickson, not just a rise. They need everybody like Kyle Higashioka had a big hit yesterday. It doesn't have to be the same guy every day, but they're going to need hero Dejure stepping up for the San Diego Padres for the next, you know, four to six weeks. Again, like they have pretty much to get to this point in this season, it's been different guys, and it's going to have to continue to be different guys. Well, I'll tell you, man, those guys believe whether we believe whether the fan base believes there is zero lack of belief in in each other in that clubhouse, and I haven't seen a clubhouse like this in a while. Now, again, as we know, things can change, things can turn, you know, they can turn for the worst, they can continue, you know, on this path, and you just never know. Based on the comments to the media lately from Jackson Merrill, from Manny Machado, from all these guys, they truly, truly believe in one another, and you can see it, you can see it. I know Manny gets a lot of grief. That dude, I was watching him pretty intently when I was field level on Saturday night. Bro, when Jackson Merrill hit the bomb, first cat out of the dugout, when Kyle Higashioka hit the bomb, first cat out of the dugout, those dudes are stoked to come to work and play together every day. I don't know what that translates to when, you know, when our lost talent is going to win out in baseball, it usually does. But man, they are sure as hell fun to watch, and they sure as hell believe in each other. I think there's something to be said for them. Well, I think the Padres do have the talent to win out as well. In addition, you know, camaraderie and belief, but health also wins out in baseball over a 162 game season. Health and talent. And the Padres do not have health. That's one thing that they haven't had all season long. And it's only continued to get worse sliding from Manny's, you know, a concern about Manny to start the season has now crept down into pretty much every high paid player on the roster, the highest paid players, Manny Bogart's, Tatise, Musgrove, Darvish, you find a team out there. Okay, your five highest paid players are all hurt. Go ahead and try to make a playoffs. Go in. Go in. It's not easy to do and give the Padres credit, give Mike Shilt credit, give the players credit for hanging in there, you know, through through some of these setbacks that they've endured in 2024. Yeah, that's what good teams do. Thank you, Shilti. I do give them a lot of credit. I absolutely do. And I'll tell you, and I know we're all hot. I mean, we are on like, like we, we are in the, the post-coitus glow right now. I mean, that's how you feel. You feel like you're in the afterglow after a win. Like, last night, I'm ready to run down to Petco Park and start fighting nationals. Like, that's how fired up I am this morning. Jesse Winker, more like Jesse Stinker, more like Jesse Wanker. How about that one? For your morning coffee. I don't know, man, let got him 100%. Got your ass, Jesse. I'm ready to fight these guys. Like, I'm, they got, they got me. I'm back. I'm like fired up again to watch the San Diego potteries after a win like that. And I understand what the afterglow feels like. It may not come again for a while. We know that. So I, I, I want to just take today, at least to have some fun with it. Yeah, we're gonna have to talk about the weird, weird communication about injuries, some of the weird comments that came out yesterday. The fact that, you know, they're not really on the same page injury wise, well, message from the player and the front office. It's a weird thing. It happens here. I think it happens in all, you know, with all baseball teams, certainly, but man, it's, there's a lot to talk about today. A lot, Judson pro far though, you know, gets our hero of the morning. He was fantastic last night. What an A B. What a, what a way to deliver. It also cost me $100. Oh, this is, don't do this moment. This is correct. Save that. I didn't know this. I did not know this. I did not know. I did not know that this was possible. And I thought I'd cash to $100 on our San Diego Padres to win by one and a half. Judson pro far didn't do something that would have netted me a hundred. I don't care. I would have paid $100 for that win last night. In fact, I paid $69 for it. I rarely pull out the, Hey, $69 to one of our, one of my Twitter followers, if we win this game, because we're down three. And sure enough, they came back at one and I sent $69 to a tier one last night named Grace. So enjoy your $69 on the house. I would have paid that for a dub. 100%. What a great win. What a great win. We're taking your calls as well. Again, if you woke up and you went to bed last night after the Nick Sendzel home run, wake up this morning to see that your Padres fought and scratched and clawed their way back to a victory. Jonathan in the chat said, I was ready to go after we gave up the homer. My daughter was like, Dad, let's stay. And we would have missed it. And he stayed and watched the, watched the victory. We'll talk about our pal Steve Sugimoto and he is our NIL sponsored athlete from SDSU. He's a professional golfer in Japan. He happens to be home in San Diego. I'm trying to get him in the studio. He's also a psychic. He's also a psychic. Yeah, we've got that video for you as well. Holy smokes, man. Let's, uh, let's get this thing going and have some fun today. We'll set the menu next. We also have a really special guest. Even, well, I don't want to say more special than Jesse Aguiler, who's very special every week. No offense, Jesse. But one that we don't usually have on Tuesdays, we'll tell you who's coming on the program a little bit later as well. We'll get to all of that coming up in our next segment. But it is a, it's a very afterglow Monday, Tuesday morning here after the Padres walk off with a four run 10th to beat the Washington national seven to six. We'll come back after a check of traffic and get right to it on San Diego's number one sports station, 97-3 the fan. First it was Will Smith with the, uh, you know, Mr. irrelevant. He's not even relevant comments. Now it's the Washington national. So their manager, David Martinez, intentionally walking. Louisa rise to get to jerks and pro far. He comes out on top again with the walk off last night. It's going to be the theme of the program today. And we're going to set the menu for you of our show coming up here in just a second. But what's, we have a special guest in studio from just down the hall. And I don't want to take up too much of his time because he's got his own show to be running this morning. But John Flint is here from the John and Tammy morning show over on KSO and and they do something really special that I wanted to give you an opportunity to let our listeners know about because anyone who wants to pitch in here would be very much appreciated. Johnny, good morning. Thank you guys. I really appreciate the time. We are doing all week something a little different on our show. And if you don't listen to our show, clearly you don't because your tier ones, you'll listen to this show. But I don't care. I just don't care because you have a heart and you love America and you love the veterans in this town. So many of them suffering from crippling PTSD. We are doing something all week raising $35,000. It's called John and Tammy's service pet for a vet. I'm just going to start it off with you. Just go to KSON.com. I'll take you two seconds, click donate. It'll take you to a great place called Pause for Purple Hearts. You guys familiar with this organization here in San Diego? I've not heard of this, but this sounds like a really cool concept. Their concept is just helping out those who would really need the help. That's awesome. And they train these beautiful, unbelievable dogs. Do you know that they can train a dog to sense a nightmare of vets having before he's having the nightmare? Wow. What? One of many things I learned to this wonderful organization, something else that's the most important part, it takes, it costs $35,000 to train one dog and then properly match up this dog with this person that, I mean, we talked to a guy named Vick yesterday, Vick's a decorated army hero, okay, an important part of the community here in San Diego who couldn't get his mail, okay, wanted to kill himself because he thought it was a burden to his family. I mean, this is like just a couple of years ago and he got paired up with his service pet and he's, you know, I'm sure he's got some issues at times, but he's not on medication anymore. He doesn't want to not be with his family anymore and this is directly because of this animal. And if you're listening right now, again, I don't care if you listen to our show, clearly you don't. You're on this wonderful show, but you do know, maybe it's you, but you know somebody that has some kind of an issue when it comes to however they served, whether all aspects of the military are so important, but these frontline guys and women, we don't even know what they've seen, okay, 100%. These animals do and they can help them through this. It's really hard for, you know, a hero who's been trained and it's all about the team and it's all about, you know, we're going to keep our feelings to ourself. It's really hard for a person like that to ask for help. No doubt. No doubt. It's the hardest thing for a lot of men to do. It's very, very difficult. We speak about it a lot on this program as well. This idea of having somebody by your side, having something by your side that can help you get through it is massively important. Well, we all love our pets, right? I mean, I wish anybody reacted the way. Except for Ben. Yeah, we all, the rest of us love our pets. My pet, the farmer's dog. That is true. I've heard. But I mean, we all know what it feels for us who don't suffer from crippling PTSD when we get home. I mean, I wish anybody was as happy as my dog, Roger, the puppy is when I come home. Right. And that fills me with some unbelievable love. You know, that's my boy. Imagine that feeling times a million and if that's something that you've gone through, then, you know, we've got your back, but there are others that won't ask for help. They can't ask for help. Because they don't know how to ask for help, but they are dying inside. And that's not an overstatement. And these dogs can help. If you go to KSON.com, just click on service pet for a vet, donate a dollar, donate $35,000, you know, whatever we can get. We're woefully behind right now. If I saw like I'm panicking, I kind of am, you know, it's kind of an MO anyway. But we're doing this all week. But it's we we we need about, well, we need about $34,000. Yeah, guys, one's will step up on Tuesday. So yeah, please, you know, if you've got a just a couple extra bucks, anything will help. And it seems like an outstanding cost. Really, really good cost. I want to point something else out that I just found out recently, you know, when you're walking to Petco and you're like a couple blocks away from the ballpark and all of a sudden it's tent city. And there are some people that are really suffering and really could use anything you can do. A lot of those guys are vets. I mean, what that's their reward for whatever happened to them. That's what they get when they come back. Maybe we can help that just by one service animal starting off this trend. And again, it costs a lot of money to get this animal trained, but it's a really, really great cause $35,000 to pair one perfectly trained dog with one perfectly matched local hero. K S O N dot com. John and Tammy's service pet for a vet. Guys, thank you so much. I got it on your YouTube stream right now. I'm sure you're the best man. I just made a donation. I love how it tells you, you know, 25 bucks will provide a vest for a service dog, right? $50 a month of food for a growing puppy. Like it tells you exactly how and where your money's going. No, that's awesome. You know, think about like, I was just talking to a vet yesterday who was, you know, I don't know if he lives in a particularly rough part of town, but he was walking and he couldn't approach or be approached by people because he thought they were coming at him or and then he got combative. And these people were just walking. Maybe maybe he was in a shady part. I don't know. But here was what I do know. You walk out with a dog. Dog has to go out. You have no choice. You got to take care of the dog too. That's right. People respond differently when they see people with dogs. That's all there is to it. And maybe maybe he was not totally there when he's thinking this guy's coming at me, but you know, doesn't matter because now he thinks, Oh, this person likes my dog. His dog can sense that too. And he's more calm. It's something simple like that. Just getting someone off a couch. Anyone's suffered from any kind of depression ever when you don't want to go to bed and go to work. That's a real valid feeling. Imagine that just crushing your soul. Crushing your whole day. No. Yeah. Every day. All right. Thank you guys. Great. Well done. Well done. Well done. Thank you so much. I'm going to come in again on Friday. OK. I'll just give us an update. K-S-O-N dot com service pet for a bet. I'm sorry to cut you off. That's right. Good. A very good cause. And one of our one of our dedicated listeners is in the chat. He says as a veteran and the father of an active duty sailor. Thank you. I have brothers and sisters that their lives depend on this support. Love it. That means a lot, man. Thank you guys. Very exciting. And what's as you often say, it's really, really hard to reach out for anyone to ask for help. I've got to imagine a doubly triply so for a veteran. No doubt. Someone who's used to combat situations even tougher. Push it all down. You know, just your train not to actually ask for that kind of help because you're the people that other people are asking for help. So it's got to be even more difficult. No doubt. Yeah. Please give what you can. Certainly always happy to use this platform for something like that. And thank you. Thank you, Johnny, for coming in. Yeah, man. It's a it's a really, really worthy cost, really, really cool cost. All right. Quickly. Just coming up on the show today. We'll obviously go through all the other walk off calls from last night. We've collected them all the chirping and what the National TV broadcast was saying after Jurexon's walk off and the interaction between him and the Washington Nationals dug out. Is that something you could spill over to game two of the series today? We'll also, of course, talk about the many moves. Spotter has made six roster moves yesterday and give you an update on the injury to Fernando Tetis Jr. What what he said. What Mike Schilt said was not exactly what Fernando Tetis said and what kind of doctors say about a stress reaction and the actual amount of time it's going to take for Fernando Tetis Jr to get healthy again. So we'll talk about all of that. Our regular features in our seven o'clock hour. I mentioned a special guest though. Coming up at 7 45 this morning, we'll pause Padre's talk for just a second. We are lucky enough to get a few minutes with Bob Kendrick who's going to join us the president of the Negro League's baseball museum. He was at the the Rickwood field game. He is as knowledgeable as anyone about the history of Willie Mays and this sport and we've had him on before. He's absolutely fantastic storyteller. The knowledge that he can pass on had a big night in San Francisco last night where they honored Willie Mays as well. Everybody on the Giants wearing number 24 last night. So Bob Kendrick can be with us for a few minutes at 7 45. Jesse Agler with the Incorporator at 8 35 as he always is on Tuesday. We can get his thoughts on last night's game. We'll hear his call of the walk off wind coming up next and then final hour. Rindle report and more. So that's the menu. I don't want to waste any more time though. I want to get to our Padre's wrap up and really dig deep into last night's back and forth. Come from behind. Come from ahead. 7 to 6. Padre's win over the Washington Nationals. That's next with Beno Woods on San Diego's number one sports station. 97 3 to fail. Padre's walk it off over the Washington Nationals. You're about to hear all the highlights and I did not I did not get to hear the radio highlights last night. In fact, I didn't even get to see the winning walk off hit by Jirksen Proflare Benny, which is one of the professional hazards of actually being a sports caster. You occasionally miss big sports moments because you are working. And last night we had the Stanley Cup Finals game seven on Channel 10, which meant we had a late post game newscast, which because the game, the post game ran so long we weren't on the air until like eight 50 and then I wasn't on until the nine o'clock hour and I'm I see my hit is coming up and I'm looking and I go I've got about five minutes and it's the bottom of the 10th inning and the Padres are rallying and I'm going like I just win it here just get it over with or you know I which want to see the ending and we're getting now it's like three minutes away and Jirksen Proflare is coming to the plate and you know this bad is extending longer and longer and finally I realized okay I'm on the air in like 45 seconds I got a sprint to the studio it's too too count bases are loaded and I don't know what happened so I leave my office I go do my sports cast and I have no idea when I walk back into my office I am way I am walking into a surprise I know one way or the other the probably oh yeah but I don't know if it's a loss or a win or how it happened and as I walk in I look at my TV and I see a replay and it's Jirksen looking like I I mean like he had a bloop or something yeah it was the swing that the slow most way I go oh did he that's an ass out fly ball did he like bloop one in front of the right fielder or something and then I saw the real replay and go that bounced over the wall how did that happen yeah so I was very happy but it was about four or five minutes after it actually happened I couldn't believe it and I could not believe that that victory last night what a game four in the 10th to win that ball game after you were just deflated demoralized given up all of us given up don't say you hadn't because you had many people turn the game off I don't blame you I almost did as well um let's get the wrap up going I want to hear this in all it's I will get all glory highlights the ups and downs coming up right after this check of traffic on 97.3 the fan I love winning man I love winning hear what I'm saying it's like better than losing oh my god I'm so stiff miss any of the Padres win yesterday Ben and Woods didn't what I proved we've got you covered with all of the highlights I like it with the Padres win yeah yeah it's the Padres wrap up presented by Hamou Casino with rilling slots and tables in all the best rewards Hamou Casino has all the fun you're looking for Hamou Casino fun above all else yeah give me a due damage due damage left hander delivers Kim tries to butt pushes it to a skirt it's a beauty bourbon picks it up with the bare hand he's got no play front of words scores and the Padres take a 1-0 lead as he swings here sends one to the gap in right center field that's going to get down Solana rounding third on his way him is right behind him they're both going to score easily as a goshyoka pulls into second with a two run double and the Padres lead is now three to nothing and Vanessa swings muscles went over Kim in the left field the base said that'll tie the game Abram scores easily an RBI single for Manessus he has driven in all three Washington runs and now a three three game here in the seven we swings muscles it over rise down the line that's a fair ball that's going to give the answer to their first lead of the night wink around and third he'll score easily throw goes into second not in time an RBI double for K Barrett Ruiz and Washington leads it four to three and Zell swings hits it in the air to deep left center field real far is racing back he's in the wall looking up it's going to go a home run two run home run for Nick Zenzell his first hit of the night and the Washington lead is now six to three here in the ten one-oh-pitch Merrill swings in into center field and a base hit Arnold worth this score and Solano's being waived he's going to come in and score a two run single for Jackson Merrill and a one-run game in the bottom of the 10th row far swings into the year to deep right center Thomas is back into the gap can't get there they're gonna walk it off again it's Harold and Kim score and the Padres beat the Nationals seven to six I've been saying this since the beginning of the season man these guys I go to war with him every day every night man it doesn't matter like you know the record doesn't say it but we got ballers in there man and you know we keep believing in each other that's it we've heard that a lot lately we got ballers in there it's it seems to be the theme of the San Diego Padres clubhouse and and we open the show with it talking about yeah the record is not it's not ideal it's not what you want you you've you've cost you've spent a lot of energy to get there you got a lot of players banged up but man the general consensus in that clubhouse is that we are together we believe and we are ballers and we can win baseball games and they've proven that they have absolutely proven that they can beat really good teams not that the Nationals are a really good team but they're they're nipping at your heels for sure but you've beaten some really good teams this year and you know it's those stumbles against some crap teams that have set this team back and had they handled business that you know me I don't like to go back and try to jam the toothpaste back in the tube it never is going to work I don't like to go back in and lament trades that were made and people that got it there's nothing you can do about it nothing it's just a fool's errand I can't let myself think about the angel series and the rocky series and where we would potentially be we would have that cushion bed to be able to withstand Fernando Tetis Jr. being out many being her profiles having bad knees you know Darvus being out Musgrove being a I get it I absolutely get it it hurts it hurts me too but onward and upward and the belief in that clubhouse these guys are finally finally together you know after a couple of years now listen one thing we do know is that exciting moments breed they breed closeness they that you can't help but feel close you could hate each other and you keep winning games like that you're gonna grow to at least appreciate and respect each other we have seen this team fall off the cliff at times and that's what you have to avoid yeah you you're absolutely right it shouldn't be that way it should but it sometimes takes a few big moments and walkoffs to build that camaraderie and unfortunately last year's team just never got it they were good enough to you know they were probably good enough to get where they wanted to get to but because nothing good ever happened ever for them to them and that's their fault as well right come through in those situations but there's also luck in baseball and because they didn't get any of those good lucky moments to build some of those good feelings it just kept snowballing into worse and worse feeling as the season went on obviously this year has been very different than when things have had a chance to go well many times they have gone well and it turns just into a different atmosphere in the clubhouse for the team with basically mostly the same players you know yeah a couple couple different guys Jackson Merrill's been a nice spin definitely a big part of positivity and and and you know tenacity and all of that all of that um yeah and you're right they they kind of waited around for for chemistry to happen last year this this year it feels like they've made sure with some huge huge moments Ben to make sure that this team is together they keep saying it like don't worry we're effing ballers like that's how we feel I like that that's what you want from your baseball team you want them to believe in each other but um yeah it's it's exhausting they're exhausting they have to be exhausted right now playing so hard uh to stay one game over 500 Joseph in the chat says that positivity straight from Mike Shilt and and of course he is a very positive guy but I can't help but remembering that the 2022 as we said was filled with tons of positivity under Bob Melvin yeah and then in 2023 under Bob Melvin was not right I tend to think it's less the manager and it's more the players and what's happening on the field and it just can go one way or another and and so far this year it's gone in mostly a positive direction for the Padres now yesterday's game was very was very interesting remember yesterday's show we talked about they need to get to Patrick Corbin this is uh this thing against lefties this continued struggles against lefties starting pitching this is the day it has to end and then they go out score three runs in the second inning I was all ready to tweet out you know Luisa rise he lights that line or I go finally for the first time they have scored more than three runs against a left-handed starting pitcher but line drive found a glove and it turns out they did not score another run against Patrick Corbin he became the 23rd straight left-handed starter to hold the Padres to three or fewer runs as he ended up going all the way through seven innings and the Padres could do nothing else against him after that second inning in fact what was it 19 straight retired uh between the end of regulation all the way to the bottom of the 10th inning the Padres offense went absolutely ice cold silent after that that second inning that was vibes of last year to get the get the early runs and then the foot go you you put it in cruise control and you're like oh we'll just grind this out see if we can get a 3-2 win it just last year it didn't happen and also vibes of last year they got a good starting pitching performance this time again from Matt Walter and but couple of defensive miscues not ruled as errors but the play that Hassan Kim could have made they could have been a double play up the middle turned into a run Jake's throw all right so tell me I go in to tuck bow in I come back and I see a bang bang play at first I was too lazy to rewind it I figured something would tell me I missed the throw what happened I mean I know did he just spike it he didn't even spike it he kind of well he bounced it through as a three hopper - yeah in position so he had to run to his right okay he was kind of off balance so he fell in he was kind of falling away as he threw it and he got nothing on the throw I mean had he just taken half a second gathered himself and thrown hard would have been out probably by a step or two but instead he kind of falls away noodle arms and it bounces bounces and then finally gets there just a split second too late and that ends up costing the Padres a run as well yeah well remember early in the season remember when errors were fatal for this team they were fatal we would make an error next guy to run bomb fatal fatal fatal that is a trend that cannot come back that was remember that like the first month of the season Hassan Kim would boot one next guy to run homer I mean it was like every other game it would happen that needs to be cleaned up for sure and the play the Hassan Kim play up the middle look nobody I know is making that play but Hassan Kim can make that play it hit him square in the glove it hit him like it right in the palm he's booted it and that's a that's a double play ball easy because that ball was hit on a rope uh yeah man that stuff's got to be cleaned up for sure and then remember last year again they could not win an extra inning game and you know you just felt like it was heading down that same direction they get the first two outs in the top of the 10th then you'll deal with Santos holds that runner at second and you're going so good about that okay this is uh set really well and then double homerun by Senzel it's down three and now you're feeling like we're games probably over at that point or toast and then the bottom of the uh 10th inning happens and it wasn't just of course jerks and pro-fars walk off a lot happened to set that up uh had to be David Peralta starting inning with the double uh even though Jackson or even though Jake only went to third that that got the tying run to the plate right away and what happened there like how does Jake not score that doesn't really matter it doesn't it doesn't matter at all it doesn't matter he's not the tying run he just can't be thrown out he can't be thrown out and because he wanted to make sure it was caught or not he's just forward backward forward like a hundred percent sure and make sure you're not throwing out that's the only thing that really matters on that play so that no problem with that Jackson Merrill with another huge at bat to run single that gets the go ahead run to the plate gets the tying run on base Hassan Kim works a walk didn't do much I mean but didn't swing it the bad pitches work the walk to get on base and move Jackson Merrill over yeah uh then the decision to pinch hit Tyler Wade and lay down the the very short sacrifice bunt one inch ended up working out got the runners over to second and third um there was Solano at the double then Peralta popped out okay so that was that was unfortunate so I did see people upset that they didn't let Kyle Higashio Kihit and I know Higgy's been hot I think going to Peralta for a sack fly there is probably the right move uh it didn't work out I was pretty I was pretty bummed about that that ties the game up he didn't come through he didn't come through and it happened so um that was kind of a bummer what did you think of the what did you think of the bullpen management I saw people upset again with any l being there but I kind of liked the in more home ended up giving up a run which has been you know uncharacteristic of him um astronaut was fine Suarez was Suarez and I thought it was fine you're you're gonna run out of like they're they're trying to win that game you know they're trying to win that game uh in those last couple of innings and it just didn't get there I mean it's who who did they want to come in right right in that spot you know if you use your it's wandy you want me or niel or colic yeah I mean you know those are the guys and they all have sometimes come through and sometimes not come through it's it's Russian roulette once you get past the the first couple of guys in the bullpen so Mike wants to know what I thought about the bunt for a run by Kim I'm absolutely fine with it you know why Mike because you didn't give up an out you didn't give up an out there so I again you guys know it's it's uh it's a hill that I like I'm gonna be punished on forever and I'm fine to wear it what I've always what's bugged me about this team at times this year is like well and you know the hero of the night last night jerks and pro far in the three hole trying to sacrifice bunt in the second inning or the first inning makes me nuts I'll be completely honest with you that kind of stuff makes me nuts giving up an out right but it in that case last night huston Kim looking up going okay yeah Kim I was fine with the I actually didn't love the decision to hunt with Tyler Wade there just because man I because it's so obvious what he's going to do I almost given the defense a pretty good advantage yes because you're sending up a guy could win anyone with it you know twitter handle can go well here comes the bunt I almost tweeted Ben why are you even taking warm up swings in the on deck circle just literally practice everyone everyone knows you're not and that's not great now you got it down good credit obviously one inch but but to when the defense can with 99.9 percent assuredy know what's coming yeah that's good for the defense it's good for the defense it makes it harder to get your job done well and when peralta didn't hit the sack fly I was like great now you've given up and out all right that's set up of course jerks and pro far and when we come back before we play take on woods we'll hear some of the other calls of the walk off you heard jesse's we got done we got spanish we got what the nationals tv 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listening it's just us just us here i in a real time saw the pitch to jerks and pro 4 i was like i'll kill you like i will hunt what's his name hunter harvey hunter harvey i'll kill you that was up in 97 miles an hour at a guy's face i had the fellas in here because i'm technologically impaired i said pull that i want to see where that dot is where that dot end up wasn't that bad pitch because i told you i was like i mean and i go shut up dude it might have been a little bit of a dramatic play i go no way that ball was at his eyes and then i saw the mark i mean obviously he does not want to hit jerks in anywhere head foot anywhere because that brings in the tying runs so he's not trying to hit anybody we know that yeah and it was up and i was up and it was a little little in like a little tight it was like a hair in based on based on the dot now my eyes hard and it was hard and it was hard and fast enough and and jerkson reacted and went to the ground good move and if it uh if it inspired him i mean the at bat continued uh four more pitches fouled some off continued to battle uh scott louis our friend uh tweeted that that jerks and at bat was a rocky movie it really was it had uh ups and downs it had a guy dusting himself off i mean it was this little story inside the story just itself and it ends with the walk-off hit which was by the way if you uh if you didn't realize it will get to a little bit more maybe and don't do this not a walk-off double even though it bounced over the wall i'll just leave it at that it was not a walk-off double by jerkson pro far is a walk-off single and the call as you heard jesse was amazing but we have the rest of the uh the calls for you let's get jesse again pro far swings instant in the air to deep right center thomas is back into the gap can't get there they're gonna walk it off again maryll and kim score and the pograys beat the nationals seven to six one of jesse's best of the year yep solid all the way through just nailed that one uh then there was the television call with don or sillow and mark grant deboth pitch coming up pro far hits it towards way center field long run from a commerce they're gonna get there i've been over it to red score and the pograys won't get off how far will pro far send that one pograys win in ten amazing amazing that's great uh yeah if he uh if he had touched second i would have won an extra hundo last night's i had jerkson pro far over one and a half total bases and he got told so yeah he did not so the double doesn't count as a double because he didn't go on he's celebrated before he got second base which means it's not an automatic double for going over the wall hey it's a it's a rule book double it's a but you have to just like a home run you have to touch all the all the bases to get credit for it and so it won't you know yeah i mean jerks will get credit for the hit but slugging for slides you won't get the uh yeah you won't get the extra little tick on slugging percentage won't get the extra total base at the end of the year hopefully it doesn't hurt his all-star candidacy i think he's fine with that with that one extra base loss but it actually goes down in the scorebook is a walk-off single hunter said uh hunter said what's he down 169 now would he hit a five-gamer last night would he's fine do you don't worry about your old pal woods i had i had money woods he's operating from the black yeah from last night the drinks on me uh let's say i needed the pod race win to hit my five-gamer and i texted you guys i go you know how this is gonna end three run you know down three runs i'm like son of a gun uh before we get the recipe an extra hunt before we get to the rest of the calls let me uh throw out the numbers for take on woods and your chance to qualify for the trip to Las Vegas 833-288-097-3 call us now 833-288-097-3 hold on for a couple minutes for our game all right next up the legendary eduardo ortega in pantry's spanish language radio [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] that man goes from zero to a hundred i love it i heard i heard fly at a couple of times i think because it was headed toward the beach out there yeah that word ortega national baseball hall of thanks broadcasters win gotta happen no question in the next few years absolutely absolutely needs to happen i don't get that going i don't know right here right now maybe uh mike kendrick can put in a good word for someone he he runs a hall of fame somewhere maybe you can put in a good word but uh that was the spanish language call now i usually go with the korean last but i want i think i want to hold the uh i want to hold the washington national's tv stuff yeah hold down because we've got some discussion to go with with the washing nationals we're saying so let's uh let's get to the korean call of the walk-off by profile clodge really fantastic now poly do we have the actual call of the national just what happened afterwards radio call okay and then i have what their tv broadcast said following the game go give me the national's radio call just to hear their discipline everybody on their feet here at petco two balls two strikes harvey sets and fires swing it's poked in the air deep right center field tom is going back on the run he can't get it the ball bounces over the wall for a double and the padre's win the ball game seven six is the final they mod pro far he never reached second base as he bounced over the fence just down the reach of thomas the padre score four times and win the ball game in dramatic fashion wonder if the national radio broadcaster also had pro far one and after he pointed out real quick he nailed that one he is on top of that and that's a bad beat on that ground rule single by jerks and pro far but then there's a pro far turning a double into a single just like i do just like i do on sundays that's amazing so jerks in is mobbed the celebration spills toward the third base dugout of of petco park and jerks in is is certainly enthusiastic i mean he's fired up yeah dude he said after the game you know felt disrespected when they when they intentionally walked a rise to get to me was emotionally charged by you know taking a ball that was up and in earlier in the bat so he was certainly fired up uh but you know the demonstration well you know some people may have taken it a little bit i don't know the wrong way but certainly they noticed here's what the tv broadcaster said for the nats and i tell you what bob the nationals dugout is not thrilled with the way the jerks and pro far celebrated that walk off hit he went right towards the nationals dugout and started screaming at them and ill tomorrow vargas jessie winker kbert ruise stood on the warning track as the pajres were celebrating that walk off jerks and pro far not celebrating by looking at his teammates instead screaming at the nationals dugout for the intentional walk that loaded the bases challenging him in that moment so some trauma clown you feel your diapers when you blow a three right now i looked more like jerks in was kind of looking beyond the nationals dugout to me toward the pod race fans when he hit first and and and he hit first and he ran around and he was beating his chest and looking at the dugout yelling like bro that's that's not but he's looking at his left toward left field he sees that beyond third base living out toward left field now he's definitely definitely looking at the fans and not the dugout i don't and hey at the end of the day i don't care if he was good for him fire me up you know what i mean like who cares it's baseball you breast assured if that happened to me or anybody i know that that would be the same thing like it's it's a charged moment you just you just came down you're down you're down three runs you just won the game base loaded you got intentionally they intentionally walks me to get to you yeah man i'm gonna beat my chest i'm gonna look right in your dugout and say good call nice work well done and and let them have it a little bit it's part of the game the nationals do it too they were dancing around c_j abrams was dancing around in front of the dugout after senzel hit his homer c_j abrams grinning into the pod race dugout after every hit he got give me an effing break turn about his fair play it's absolutely fair play nick senzel streaming running around the bases like he's joe carter in the world series good for you so huge hit have a ball i'm glad i got a bigger hand oh yeah i'm glad our guys didn't fill their diapers after i'm reading radio host comments in air in uh... washington this morning oh my god who's that what's his name it's not in storage no no that's not in store that's hidden to d_c_ plant paulson yeah paulson says this this morning grant paulson from grant and danny on one oh six seven the fan i'm assuming he's an odyssey colleague potential he said jerks and pro far pretended to almost die on two fastballs that weren't close to them any troll the nets dug out while celebrating like he won the world series must be closet dodger fan could be some drama in the series in the two days ahead that was amateur hour all right i mean amateur hours also blowing a three run leading the tent buddy so i don't know what to tell you grant um but you know game one goes to the pods at it listen as far as any payback or anything like that goes i i hate to say this this is just me being completely honest part of his or good team to do it against because we certainly don't retaliate much so if it does happen i expect the boys to know why it happened kenzie gore's a really good picture he throws really hard he's got good command you know exactly what happens if mckenzie gore goes up and in her dots pro far today or something like that and i probably gonna be back in second and i expect retaliation i absolutely do because the guys celebrated after a monster hit against again a team that is right behind you in the standings but if there's one player in the bonders isn't going to take anything it's jerks and profan no question i'm gonna say it's out of measure that poor guy's like son of a bitch i just got called up and i'm right in the middle of this now you wanna earn your stripes it's an opportunity you know you can dot somebody before they dot somebody and the funny thing is is if major goes out and dots the first guy or whatever warnings will be issued it's actually the smart strategic play if you're gonna do it you take all control out of water you take all and and then if mckenzie work even goes gone into somebody he could get wrong so yeah get the lefty starter out of the game yeah get them out of the game get strapped the opener ready to go it was it was awesome it was an awesome win congrats to jerks and huge huge dub last night i will talk more about this and the panda is injury situation coming up right now though let's play a little take on woods it's time for take on woods woods woods all right we got mike standing by to play take on woods which is brought to you by valvoline incident oil change it only takes 15 minutes you don't have to get out of your car for directions and discounts go to soak out oil change dot com and soak out oil change dot com mike good morning to you good morning go pot go pot you're taking on steven woods today we had bowwoods in yesterday as well for a little extra game of take on woods he crushed it let's see how you do in our uh three category choices it's not false uh those are uh the opposite of false in your songs we got rick's cafe five musical artists named rick and we got keep the change uh song titles and artists that include a type of coin in the name uh again what you're playing for is the grand prize drawing uh trip for two to the faunton blue los vegas two nights tickets to either hootie and the blow fish are smashing pumpkins and a 150 dollar pool side dining credit summer room packages tickets available now at faunton blue los vegas dot com which category of those it's not false rick's cafe or keep the change do you want to play mike uh rick's cafe rick's cafe okay we are on the hunt for five musical artists all named rick you have 60 seconds uh answer as many as you can then woods goes if you beat her time we'll put you into the drawing first questions the two-second song uh you need to give me the song title and then the artist again his uh first name is rick to give me uh to get the point on that one mike you're ready to play all right 60 seconds on the clock your time begin when paul plays our music good luck mike let's take on woods uh rick athlete never gonna give you up correct 1981 was a big year for which artist when he released the album street songs including his signature hit super freak rick game correct which larger than life booming voiced rapper released his debut single with 2006 hustlin uh yeah which australian singer wished that he had his friend gary's girl but changed the name to jessie's girl in the song correct frank field correct famous for the song hang on sloopy with mikhoi's in the 1960s which artist also had solo success with his 1973 single rock and roll hoochie coo all right which larger than life booming voiced rapper released his debut single with 2006 hustlin rick rock correct famous for the song hang on sloopy with mikhoi's in the 1960s which artist also had solo we ran out of time there but you got four hang on the line mike that's a good score in the category rick's cafe rick ashley never gonna give you up rick james rick ross rick springfield rick derringer was the only one you didn't get i think rock and roll hoochie coo thank you all right uh let's see how woods does interesting category rick's uh rick's score is locked in let's go uh 60 seconds back on the clock your time begins when paul plays the music good luck woods let's take on mike that's rick ashley never gonna give you up correct 1981 was a big year for which artist when he released the album street songs including his signature hit super free oh rick james correct which larger than life booming voiced rapper released his debut single with 2006 hustlin rick ross correct which australian singer wished that he had his friend gary's girl but changed the name to jesse's rick springfield correct famous for the song hang on sloopy with mikhoi's in the 1960s which artist also had solo success with his 1973 single rock and roll hoochie coo rick derringer oh and a five four win in rick's cafe for woodsy x cafe very nicely done mike good game four was good but rick derringer was the difference in the end as woodsy hangs on for the victory today on our old show uh in when i first started in radio we had rick springfield in stigio yes and he had written a book and uh he came in to promote it and it was awesome i mean sitting there talking to rick springfield you're like you're literally one of the most handsome i know he was australian and i did the uh did the question he was like as cool as you could be and stayed with us didn't and chopped it up for like an hour uh it was great great great all right no qualifier today i will try again with a new uh new category added to the mix tomorrow uh let's take a quick timeout we'll come back you don't do this is coming up next uh we didn't we didn't get to it yesterday but there was a major suspension handed down he major league baseball interesting excuse for this one i feel i didn't see this yeah oh yeah very interesting all right we'll get to that and more coming up next after a check of traffic been a woods on 97 3 the fam don't do this it's time for don't do this what were you thinking three stories from the world of sports that make us all shake our heads why how many times do i have to tell you i'm sorry i fudged up guys you idiot more on the apple sometimes does far fall from the tree don't do this do not tweet that with Ben and woods i like a nickelback song or two on 97 3 the fan tweeted it out last night my brain was slightly broken by our do-do this story coming up here in just a couple of minutes don't do this is brought to you by the craft taco in sereno valley craft taco is some of the best quality tacos in all of sandy it go go to the craft taco dot com take a look at their happy hour specials today craft taco dot com what's uh you go first actually okay i will go first no uh so yeah you can uh you can view this as a don't do this from many different perspectives but blake snell's first giant season is uh well you know it's not going well uh his latest rehab start very poor and ending in two-thirds for the sacramento river cats three heads two run runs walked three didn't record any strikeouts as he tries to return from the isle with a growing strain but after the outing he expressed frustration that he is feeling pressure from the giants to return before he's ready quote haven't felt like myself yet told reporters it's just we need you we need you we need you it's not like let's get him right and i have to deal with it i want to be healthy and a hundred percent and i haven't been i've just been fighting to rush back so that's my take i'm frustrated with that and you don't get the product of what i should be and it's just frustrating but we know how he says frustrating yeah i want to go out there and dominate and pitch the way that i pitch but it's more important that i'm out there um what's your take here woods because man you know i mean obviously he knows bob melvin it's not like he's got a new manager who doesn't understand Blake Snell we we know him we know him we we heard the i'm not comfortable yet thing like we heard that but this is i think this is a health situation exacerbated by the fact that he did not throw at all because his agent told him not to i think it's clear he got a lot of bad advice he got a lot of bad advice to the officer sucks for him and it you know the thing is paul he is like if your agent tells you you just want to saw young bro i'm gonna get super agent by the way your super agent tells you we're gonna get you paid you're gonna go to a place you love and you're gonna get your bag don't throw you can only screw this up if you do anything which i know for a fact to happen and Blake goes down and is like okay like i'll i won't throw and then it sounds weird but i'll trust he misses a spring training he can't get it going like we know Blake Snell we know him he's not going to be at his best unless he's mentally there and physically there he's not he never was until he got healthy and right and comfortable and all that like Farhan Zaidi should have known that when he signed him or just ask bob melvin or just ask bob melvin bob melvin knows this bob melvin knows that all these things were saying what Blake is saying is true there's no way that's coming from bob i don't think so no i mean there's pressure from fans obviously oh yeah i don't know yeah the gm that for it's over 31 they just know they signed a cyung award winner and they expect him to pitch like a cyung award but yeah i feel the same way i would too i would too and if i'm a fan i'm like all right i get it but crap dude we need like again they do need him they absolutely need him they're they're still in it as well and you know you spend a lot of dough you spend a lot of dough to get him and uh look ultimately it for me it always falls on the player to be ready to go it just it does it falls on the player to be ready to to go out and pitch and execute but yeah interesting uh it's it's not great uh right now for Blake Snell and San Francisco Giants and their their fans and you know it is what it is but uh you know if you're a blue jade fan right now you were really excited on friday night you called up your number two prospect or Elvis Martinez got his first uh major league baseball hit and his debut against the guardians and then two days later on sunday got an 80 game suspension he tested positive for performance enhancing substance cloma fiend also known as clomid and uh so he he gets the suspension fails the drug test he comes out and says i take full responsibility for my actions i accept my suspension i want to apologize to my teammates and buffalo toronto the blue jade's organization the fans who supported me during my career said it when he had been prescribed a fertility drug by a doctor in the Dominican Republic during the off season that resulted in the positive test so you know i knew a little bit about clomid before i looked it up a lot of women use it to treat infertility who women do not ovulate uh the women that can't ovulate they take clomid for men it boosts your testosterone and it helps your swimmers uh swim better but so do they prescribe anything in the Dominican Republic that doesn't have steroids bro it's and if that's the thing is like again it's going to fall on t_s_a_ rash it's always going to fall on it's always going to fall on the players right to make sure there's a whole protocol involved it's hard to you're talking about different cultures and and everything else it's hard to it's hard to they they try to make it easy by saying hey this these are on the band's substances list if somebody tells you to take this you have to check it with us your two doctors are there therefore he said everything yeah so he's i know he said he wanted to keep it super private even family members family members didn't know they were trying to have a kid or whatever bro look and if that team doctors aren't going to post it on instagram or whatever yeah if that's the case sucks i mean but again it's you you did the crime in in in this instance you did the time whether you took it knowingly or unknowingly it still falls on you got a toothache mandrelone yes you get an upset stomach stannas along club and this is what we do in the Dominican Republic yeah it's sterile it's cure everything it's it does i mean it's tough like i i just it it if it increases testosterone they're going to get you they're just going to get you yeah every time finally little do-do this DD mega do-do from our great tier one and former NIL sponsored college at golfer now professional golfer on the japan tour Steve Sugimoto who's back home recovering from injury and injury but that allowed him an opportunity to go to the game last night and and Steve stuck it out to the end he's obviously sitting looks like behind home played in the the upper level of pet co-park and he's filming a video during the final at that of the game and this broke my brain because obviously this is happening and unfolding live in front of a real time there's no special effects there's no camera tricks it's just a cell phone video and you'll be able to hear the audio of Steve just kind of calling this right right as it's happening all right i just got the notification i just got the notification and here's the pitch oh so i've got so my question here is obviously couldn't have got now we've all done that where we're watching a game on tv and because the feed is a little slow happens a lot you get a notification about what's about to happen before it actually somebody at the ballpark is setting that notification yeah yeah or someone texted you and i go my my my stream hasn't caught up to that yet you saw before i did it's happened to everyone he's actually sitting in the ballpark there's no way he could have gotten a notification about jerks and walk off okay for it happened no you didn't no you didn't you couldn't see you couldn't know you're watching it right there it's live it's not enough monitor there goes i was still probably in mind probably another minute to two minutes away from the notification actually being sent so i want to know did now did he do that for like seven straight pitches now that would be a good day and tell it finally happened or was that just the one and done and it just happened the moment that he decided to hit record on his camera yeah i mean it hopefully it was just like hey he had that feeling you get that i had the feeling earlier when higgy i told hannah i got up to brush my teeth i go higgy ends this with one swing and he did and you just get those weird feelings throughout the season oftentimes they're wrong stevey felt it last night i'm gonna i'm gonna choose to believe that that's the first take that he did and uh is in fact a profit should come by the studio we'd like to see it tweet him last night get your ass in great all right good and that's don't and do do this for a tuesday that was don't do this with benin woods on 97 three the fan just quickly uh from mark in the chat i will uh he asked for a shout out for my friend's 19 and a half year old dog who unfortunately is going to the final vet visit today puggle named mershek mershek 19 and a half though is uh that's a life well that's a life well lived for a puzzle shout out to his family shout out to mershek's family we'll have another one too coming up at eight we got another shout out to his family we have to do all right we will uh we'll be joined by bob kendrick uh who is the president of the negro league's baseball museum in kansas city the passing of willy mays uh when we come back you don't want to miss that conversation he is fantastic that is next with benin woods on 97 three the fan body fans let's make sure the pod race represented in texas at the all-star game well let's just make sure jerks and pro four is there you can help by voting up to five times per day at pod race dot com slash all-star voting ends this thursday and uh they have a ad during the game yesterday with kairi his son pro four asking begging it's incredible begging for you to vote for his dad you know and it would be one thing if it was like hey man like you're not having a good year we're not just gonna vote you in because your kid wants he's having a phenomenal season he's an all star so i i really don't have any doubt that he's gonna get there but let's let's make sure he does he does uh continue to lead in the latest updated voting so it looks like he's definitely gonna get to the other finals of the voting after the uh the voting closes on thursday but again you can go to pod race dot com slash all-star again through thursday for the preliminary round of all-star voting couple of quick stats here before we get to debob kendrick here in a couple of minutes uh some stats from uh comparisons from last year and this is from the ut this morning so the pod race now have three extra inning wins this year in three games three and oh three no last year they had two extra inning wins in fourteen chances two and twelve both of those came in like the last couple of weeks of the season the last two opportunities they now have ten one run wins this year they're ten and twelve not great but better than last year when they had nine all year nine and twenty three oh in one run games they have now six times come back to win from down three or more runs that only happened four times all last year remember we're only halfway through this season they've already done it two more times than last year uh they have sixteen wins when they've trailed or have been tied in the seventh inning or later only at eighteen all of last year five walk-off wins had two walk-offs all of last season and um they're now eighteen and thirteen in games in which they've lost a lead where they hadn't and then lost it they were eighteen and thirty three in those games last year so quite the uh the stark difference between twenty twenty three pod race when it comes to these tense games and the twenty twenty four pod race who've been uh completely different i like i mean i love i love it it's great it's it's aging me incredibly in all of us but i i'd rather have this than a bunch of else and and the other uh unique thing is that uh next week will be the fifty fifth anniversary of the only other time in pod race history that they gave up three or more runs in an extra inning and then came back and scored more than that to win they gave up four on july fifth nineteen sixty nine their first season to the asterism the top of the twelve scored five in the bottom of the twelfth to win nine to eight hadn't happened again until last night when they scored uh four in the bottom of the tenth to beat god's insane insane the washington national how long can it go man how long can it last all right let's check traffic when we come back we're expected to be joined by bob kendrick president of the negro leagues baseball museum in kansas city talk about willy mays and more next year at ninety seven three the fan saw a nice moment last night uh up in the bay area of the san francisco giants all war number twenty four to honor willy mays ended up getting a walkoff victory in the bob of the ninth inning against the chicago cubs of course uh saw the amazing show that mlb put on last week at the rickwood field game in bermingham alabama willies hometown and uh one of the guests there that day uh... is joining us right now he's been on the program before he is a treasure trove of baseball history and knowledge and it is a pleasure to welcome the president of the negro leagues baseball museum bob kendrick back with us here on benwood's uh... ninety seven three the fan here in san diego bob good morning to you it is great to have you back on good morning and thank you so much for having me on the show you've been a very very busy man over the last couple of weeks i we we had talked about trying to get you on and poly uh our producer said hey he can only come on on tuesday and i said fine absolutely we'll take bob kendrick anytime uh you've been you've been very busy telling stories and and doing all the things that you do obviously a huge tremendous loss to the baseball world losing willy mays what a career what a life what a man he was what is your number one favorite willy mays story bob well it's a story that he shared with me directly and i was able to share that on air uh on for last Thursday on the fox broadcast but i'm out in san francisco in 2016 and brian murphy he was a big time radio sports talk show i was there in the bay area had set up for me to uh come out and speak to a group of kids out of mill valley california but the day that i arrived they were having a memorial service for a former san francisco giant picture and so all the grapes were there willy's there or land those the pay to for leap a loo they were playing the the then the florida marlin's and berry bonsie was coaching for them he was there but anyway they arranged for me to have some private time with mr mays now this is one of those pinch me kind of the moment i get private time with willy mays and so we went out into players garage and most asked we said really did you ever face satchel page and fellas really lights up like a christmas tree he says yes i'll face satchel i face satchel when i was 17 years old and the first time i faced satchel i got a double off of it well satchel didn't know who this kid was doing a little off speed something young willy mays hits it in the gap get the double that's all steps off the mountain looks over at the third basis hey man you let me know when it comes back up again probably any later here comes young willy mays back in the battle box the third basis is hey sat there it is satchel looks at him he says son i ain't gonna try to trick you i'm gonna throw you three fastballs now mr mays even at 17 so you're thinking to himself you're going through these three fastballs and i know they're coming willy said he threw three straight right behind me i never saw him and on the third kick satchel by the time he releases the ball he's halfway between the mound and the battle spot and willy said he's turned to go back to the dugout and satchel looks at him and says now go sit down little boy and it's unbelievable it is unbelievable because he is arguably the greatest major leader of all time yeah i think i think i think he is yeah we talked about it last week bah we we talked about obviously the numbers uh were there the man was five ten hundred and seventy pounds and and played the way that he played with the power that he had it is staggering staggering career well it really is because he's seen much larger because he felt like he was larger than life but when you look at that five tier one seven the man was absolutely chisel yeah you know and he wasn't looking in the way he was in doing what country boys do you know all that hard work in the field and that and he was just ripped and he just had some god obviously some god given ability but i don't want that to diminish the cerebral aspect of willy nays brought to the game he was a very astute ball player and so bob causses and i was talking and really would say himself that he made the easy plays look hard and the hard plays look easy because baseball attainment you were going to be thoroughly entertained when you watched really made his play and he was the consummate five two god but you're right five ten a hundred and seventy pounds of dynamite it's unreal talking about kendrick president of the need release baseball museum and uh you know willy mays hit a six hundredth career home run here at san diego stadium and finished of course with six hundred and sixty not quite babe ruth but a lot of people were pointing out bob this last week he played his games what at the at the polo grounds and then at candlestick part two of the worst places for power hitters especially you know right-handed power hitters had he played in a more friendly environment you know for his 20 plus years i mean where would he where would he have been bob in home runs i mean number one all time well he certainly would have eclipsed roost 714 prior to henry doing it there's no question in my mind he was averaging almost 40 home run the year he lost nearly two years to uh to service probably in the korean war and and so yeah there's no doubt that he would have broken the record first who knows what that home run total would have been uh because he did miss a couple of prime years there uh during it during his war time and yeah it is but it just feels my heart with joy when you start to think about names like willy mays henry erne earny bank all members of the five hundred home run club all come out of the nickel leagues no question about it oh sorry yeah for those who sometimes doubt the validity of the talent that was there in the nickel leagues they are just three examples of that in this town they were three young players who transitioned in the major league baseball who became big stars talking about the people to understand but there are guys who were better they're willing may henry er and earn a bank that it did get that opportunity that's what i wanted to ask you about i know we only got a couple minutes left talking to bob kendrick president of the negro leagues baseball museum we were talking about last week with the game on thursday night in bermingham and then of course you know there there's been and you know you run the the negro leagues museum there do you feel there's been a really strong resurgence lately and i know you know kids love video games right and they put the negro league players into mlb the show and now young kids are getting into it as well i had that when i was a kid i learned about it um and and now it feels like there's this really cool resurgence happening and more people wanting to know about it and i couldn't be more happier that is exactly what we hope would happen when we started this museum way back in 1990 when i first met muckle neo one of the first questions i posed to him was but what motivated you to want to build a negro leagues baseball museum and his answer was so that we would be remembered and that's been our mission from the onset and it's beautiful to see all these milestone moments happening in and around the negro leagues and that the negro leagues baseball museum so there's out of hand in making these milestones occur so that these players are not only being remembered but their legacies will play on through this museum and at the fact that young people are learning about these players but not only learning about them guys they're falling in love with these players from the negro leagues through a video game which was the biggest thing this museum has ever done was how did you bring the negro leagues to life you put them in a video game of course uh before you go you want to celebrate the good and remember all the great athletes but i thought at the rickwood field game the the most powerful moment was regi jackson and i'm sure you saw saw the video even if you didn't see it live of him telling the real story of what it was like to play back in the in the south in that day and i don't think i ever kind of really realized it the way he put it though and how hard it was for for some of those players trying to integrate the game of baseball and you know you hear regi tell the story and i'd heard regi tell that when he came to visit us here at the negro leagues baseball museum this is in the late 60s and 70s guys this is about 1947 right and and they those black players were still experiencing many of the things that regi shared they were painful and difficult to hear but as i relate that story there was a former negro leagues player named john mule miles former Tuskegee airman lived in san Antonio and he had a classic quote relative to their testimony because sometimes people believe that when you tell your story that you're crying that you're complaining and that was so far from the case as he would say i'm not complaining i'm just explaining this is what happened and this is part of my story now everybody didn't handle it the same way because if you talk to the majority of the negro league players and they went through even far more than what regi alluded to but they just seemingly never allowed their hearts to be hard with hate and they were never bitter about it and they just seemed to rise above whatever social circumstances that were put in front of them that doesn't mean that they liked the thing that happened to them as they were traveling the highways and byways of this country they didn't and they shared those stories but they also wanted you to know the joy that they had in playing this game and to me that's why the story of the negro leagues i believe is one of the greatest stories in the annals of american history because it's about the ability for the american spirit to come in and persevere and prevail bob's never cried about this bob so powerful really appreciate you spending a few minutes with us and if anyone gets a chance i can't wait i've never been to kansas city but can't wait to get an opportunity to visit the museum myself appreciate your time this morning anytime when you come out the ribs are only time let's see even another incentive to head on out bob kendrick the best president of the negro league's baseball museum we're a little over time here but we'll come back reset everything and never gonna do this time tuesday morning yeah fantastic stuff on san diego's number one sports station 97 3 the fan will be right back who a very very spicy one last night at pet co park been talking about it all morning we'll continue to talk about it all morning that's what we do here on benham wood thanks so much for being here we are halfway home on a tuesday june 25th and um would see that's paul rindo the executive producer benjamin r higgins your friendly neighborhood sports anchor joins us as well i was watching the uh stanley cup game seven last night and uh it was an incredible incredible game i i kept it on until the pottery started but they they went to commercial and there was my beloved ben a little promo for you did you see that yeah i've got the uh me standing in front of pet co part so handsome you know looking like i'm delivering some sort of sports yeah in essence they told me to stand there and just pretend like you're talking so they could get a good shot of me that's great and they uh sports some but ben higgins i'm like i know that dude look at you and the stanley cup uh stanley cup finals man do you watch something that game i did i watched a ton of that game um it was i had a multiple tv's going i had the college world series going on had a tennessee crown champions for the first time ever the florida panthers crown champions for the first time ever last night winning the stanley cup um in dramatic fashion so it was a very busy night for me at work yeah it was uh it was a busy night at home man it's uh it's things are nuts right now we've got camps for days and it's just nuts like uh summer uber driver dad you know clinic after camp after clinic it's always fun when you book them you're like that's gonna be great there's so many activities for them to do and then you realize they're six and three they can't take themselves so you actually have to go and then sit and and be there in in the scorching heat you're like this is i really i didn't think that we didn't think this through i really like today i'll get out here i gotta go to seals camp and watch bow and bring bow home from seals camp then go to frozen ropes after that for practice wow it's busy it's a busy busy little beaver so uh dad summer uber is uh is in full effect before we move on i want to thank uh bob kendrick again for coming on and sharing some of his willy mays knowledge and stories with us and and i want to just say because i saw someone pointed out in the chat when i talked about kind of being surprised by reggie jackson's comments obviously i've seen the jackie robinson movies i i know how how ugly it was when when the color line was broken in baseball and baseball was being integrated i didn't expect to hear that story from reggie jackson though i consider reggie jackson like a ballplayer of my childhood like a totally different era like i i know it wasn't perfect but i didn't realize that even players in like as bob said the late 60s going into the 70s were facing such such hatred bro it's 2024 let's not act like that's still it's it's not i mean you know it's it's definitely i mean that that's like stuff from like a movie it's essentially that the stories that reggie jackson told were incredibly moving and i thought important for people to hear important for me to hear obviously that reminds you that any progress that's made is is always very slow and and very difficult to get where we want to be one of my biggest regrets that flat tire i got from Wichita for multiple reasons but the flat tire i got driving from Wichita to Kansas city on my way to the negro league museum got a flat tire in the middle and middle of nowhere Kansas um and stopped you know for a few hours on the side of the road and i i made it in time for the padre's royals game uh did not make it in time to go to the negro league museum i had to turn around after the game and come straight back to Wichita to fly out the next day one of my biggest regrets man i don't know when i'm gonna get to Kansas again you know i have no idea so i was really really bummed to miss it i was i was planning a good solid two to three hour visit also a question for a poly during that bob kendrick interview was that like what it's like working with me what woods did to bob multiple times jumping in and trying to interrupt him and ask a question because i thought it was done yeah that's what i do all the time and i i don't feel as awkward when i'm doing when you're doing it i was horrified yeah that you know how it's how you know how is that how it feels when i do it it doesn't change in for me so much worse who it is it's so much worse when you're not the person doing it yeah i didn't realize that i felt for the last six years now i know i'm like i can put myself in your shoes and how horrifying it is you know because i was embarrassed you get those guys i mean at least i didn't know at least i didn't ask him about a heart attack he didn't have you know what i mean like that's right but like what kind of moron whatever do you put a percent so bob how's your heart attack that wasn't me was the other guy i he has a cake people have a cadence and they stop and you're like is he done the uncomfortable silence between questions is all so you want to keep trying to keep it moving but i it's a lot different if they're in studio or even on zoom oh yeah i miss time the cadence and it happens it was up till midnight thanks to jerks and pro-farts heroics literally up till midnight leg and big like i can't sleep how am i supposed to sleep ambient didn't work i'm just sitting i thought through the ambient i went through it and now how late do you go before you're just like i'm just going in going in early i mean it you know 1 a.m's my cutoff i i've had like i guess not insomnia but trouble falling asleep i mean if i'm laying in bed from calling nine to like 11 yeah i might switch it up i might go lay on the couch change of scenery maybe that helps and if it's like 1 a.m i'm like i'm just pulling on all nighter i'm just gonna go yeah i've you know i've been here like 2 30 in the morning before i mean it just happens all right we have a weird house you know my wife gets up early for to do whatever she does and so i'm up early a lot and i hate it but last night it was nothing other than it was nothing other than just being extremely fired up now i made the mistake of after the walk off going on twitter x whatever that's the mistake because then i saw jessie winker in the stands essentially screaming at a fan so that got me all fired up then i saw the nationals uh what they said at the end of the game we still have that poly this is after they win the game the nationals broadcast we're talking about it and i tell you what Bob the nationals dugout is not thrilled with the way the jerks and profar celebrated that walk off hit he went right towards the nationals dugout and started screaming at them and ill tomorrow vargis jessie winker kberuese stood on the warning track as the pageries were celebrating that walk off jerks and profar not celebrating by looking at his teammates instead screaming at the nationals dug out for the intentional walk that loaded the bases challenging him in that moment so some drama yeah so i made the mistake of watching that well then my blood pressure starts to rise and i i get that defensive mode of wanting to defend our guys and and looking at at trying to see it from their side of of the fence and i i couldn't really see it because i had also watched the top of the 10th and i watched cj Abrams all night i watched nixon zell you know running around the bases screaming like he had just hit a walk off in the world so he's good for you big big hit clutch knock two out home run you got a three run lead bro i fully understood it and i'd imagine anytime cj Abrams comes back and does something against the pot race it's gonna feel extra good for him you know anytime you you face your former organization and have a big game and he was he was fired yesterday he's been playing real well this year so that's what screwed me i need to know on a wall i need to remember we walk it off just put the phone down and go to bed and try to go to sleep then and put a movie on or something but i sat up there stewing all night till about midnight so it's in sleep mode i was gassed i know i couldn't do it man i'm an addict it happens you know you you do what you do but i was i was all charged i couldn't wait to get here this morning uh after a win like that but yeah man the the interesting thing is and we'll see if anything spills over into today you know good night sleep is always good for everyone i mean if you have an argument with your wife or your you know partner whatever your teammate give it 24 hours see what happens right i don't think jesse winker is going to be as pissy today at 640 i don't think mckenzie gore or dating martinez or caybert reese or any of the guys that he just mentioned i don't think jerks and profar is going to be as fired up today at 640 as he was last night right like 24 hours can do a lot now as we said i we didn't think jerks and profar really looked like he was directing much for the national's dugout now he admitted he felt disrespect he felt disrespected by the wall which is fine which fires him up yeah i mean he takes that as motivation and uses that that's great but i didn't get the sense that he was like legitimately mad at the washington nationals he was probably secretly pretty happy they got that opportunity he's four for four with the bases loaded this year by the way yeah and they'd all be extra base hits if he had bothered to touch second base uh last night as well which he didn't so it ended up being a walk-off single instead of a double you know and again you're talking about two teams that are pretty much neck and neck right now um san diego pottery certainly cannot afford another guy to get injured right i mean wouldn't it be our luck for something to to happen somebody goes out and pulls a hammy or something you know in a in a fight but i will say this man like if they have any issue with that celebration that's pretty tired that's pretty tired if they do you know that's a huge huge moment in a huge situation again the pitch up and in to jerks and pro far knocked him down to come through and that at bat was was pretty clutch i don't want to see anybody hurt certainly but i certainly don't want to roll over again for another team if they got a if they have a you know problem today and they want to go out and and dot one of our players i certainly hope that we retaliate and handle business but you know i don't want to see us do anything you know to start and the other reason why last night's game was so important is that you don't feel as confident about today's matchup without a major you know i was i was last week ready for him to go back and get some more work in the minor leagues you were ready for you darvish to come back you were ready for him to go do doordash and now he's back to make a fifth start today against mckenzie gore who's been solid for the nationals all year this is a this is a tough matchup for the Padres they'll need guys to come through again uh they'll need some offense in this game i don't anticipate out of measure going and tossing a you know seven innings of shut out ball today it's just unrealistic uh based on what we've seen so far so you lose that one now you're putting yourself in position to lose the series uh now you have a chance steal today's game and you can go for a sweep tomorrow in the homestand finale yeah i mean look tonight's gonna be a tall order uh it really is and when patrick corbin you know holds you to five hits and and darrick law again i feel like darrick law has been pitching since i was in high school when he came out last night i went this guy's still around i had no idea it's just one of those guys that's been hanging around forever uh he's only 33 years old i looked it up because i thought this man's 46 years old i feel like i'd been i'd seen him forever uh when those guys sit down 19 in a row on you holy cow man like that needs to be addressed that needs to be talked about they certainly don't get a pass for that three runs cannot be where you take your foot off the gas against the guy like patrick corbin letting him get in a groove bend and retire however many he did along with the bullpens help it was 19 at one point that that doesn't work we got jesse agler coming up at the bottom of the hour if you'd like to contribute an incorporated word you can uh submit it in our youtube stream or via our twitter handle at benon wood so we need a vocabulary word for jesse for tonight's broadcast when he joins us it's eight thirty five this morning and i want to go through uh we haven't really done so yet the roster moves what they all mean what the pot raise did yesterday because they made a lot of them uh coming up on our next segment but i know you wanted before we want to break uh you had a shout out that you wanted to do here yeah we need to do a uh shout out to his family saw the uh news come over this morning that shifty shell did you know if i told you shifty shell shock passed away would you have any earthly idea none none whatever that's the first time i've ever heard those two words put together in a sentence now paul do you have the song the song i do okay what if i played this for you anything it's not ringing any bells yet nothing nothing i don't think so no what error are we talking about here i mean was that like early 2000s he passed away at 49 years old so he's our age essentially so our era the era of us right but musically was he uh our era okay he's the same age so it was our era the musical artist yes he was the uh the singer front man for a band called crazy town i had number one song and it was in 2000 the year 2000 and passed away 49 years old cause of death unknown he had struggled a lot with addiction in his in his life and career just to you know kind of a one hit wonder band but that song was massive massive massive massive and he passed away you know how we do it here on bed of woods this morning and i really hope we can see more unity and more peace when already things are so difficult so shall out to his family i ran into shifty shell shock in los angeles i was actually ran into him yet literally was going to see Jason his bell play in la and was outside the venue and he walked by walking his dog and i you recognized oh immediately i mean the video you couldn't get away from butterfly you just couldn't get away from it it was everywhere you went come my lady come come my lady and uh and yeah i i didn't roast master said i did not have the cd i just heard the song on the radio like the rest of you there's your old pal woods and shifty shell shock the streets of los angeles um yeah man it was uh he's he was a really nice guy super cool um and uh 49 years old is way way too young way way too young so rest in peace shout out to your family shifty i am uh i'm sorry that i still don't really know who you are i can't believe he's never heard that somebody doesn't ring any bells not even i mean crazy town the name shifty shell shock that's the song i just must have missed that year i guess they don't play it at sporting venues so currently not entirely just missed that year i feel like they do that was the main i feel like that was the main song for the san diego strike force oh maybe yeah maybe i feel like burt grossman told us that she loved that song so he picked it of course he did so great so so great all right we'll uh we'll uh we'll take a quick time out when we come back go through some of the uh interesting roster moves the pond race made yesterday and then jesse agler will join us at the bottom of the hour for the incorporating i'm all coming up wonder if he was a big crazy town fan my guess is no jesse's like me my guess is a heart over his head yeah i'll come in up next after traffic here at 97.3 the fan i'll be honest um yesterday was shaping up is one of the very low points of the 2024 year for the san diego pond race yeah and they ended up losing that game combined with the i mean the pretty bad news they got before the game involving multiple players you would have looked and gone wow this is uh this is a tough one to swallow for the san diego pond race of course we mentioned uh you know frananda tetties jr earlier and uh going on the injured list with the the stress reaction in his right femur that's the biggest bone in your body that's the big big one under your quad there and all your long banana bone-splaining to me bone-splaining yeah all your long banana tetties jr thought he was dealing with a muscular problem but it turned out it was deeper than that and finally they got the imaging a couple of days ago that showed that stress reaction and in that leg and uh tetties spoke after the game and and said it's really bothered him since korea and really got bad in the first series at san francisco that first couple of weeks of the season and he's been dealing with it ever since it's a sharp pain uh recently it started to like radiate he feels it throughout his entire body especially when accelerating and decelerating he can kind of run but then when he tries to slow up it just absolutely bites him or when he's trying to speed up it really like the shooting pain comes up through his leg was very hard to deal with and and ultimately the decision was made in order to get it healthy he's gonna have to spend some time not doing all those things that he does when he plays baseball like flying around sprinting around the bases and playing the outfield so no franando tetties jr and while mike shilt was like well you know it's probably more than 10 days uh franando tetties was like no this is uh this is definitely several weeks type recovery certainly through the all-star break and it sounds like even possibly beyond that a little bit if he really wants to get 100% healthy which he will it's something that you will recover from doctors say it's not no long-term concerns he'll always he just needs rest and he'll be fine but that rest can be anywhere from six to sometimes up to 14 weeks to get it completely healthy which is uh quite a bit longer than you know you got the indication of when the pod race first made the announcement yesterday man i i yeah i i don't know what to say about it i mean i saw the comments yesterday um it just you know listen it doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like they're everyone's on the same page you know is that safe to say you know it just doesn't seem like they're on the same page i mean i mean messaging wise messaging you know i assume that mike shilt is the one who sets the page maybe he doesn't explain to franando tetties hey we don't want you to say you're going to be out for more than a few weeks but what he did but he did so i i mean it was it was pretty obvious even with shilt's comments that they picked this now knowing they only have what fit 16 more games before the all-star break a number of off days and the all-star break that you know hopefully you miss as few games as possible because you've got you know nine of those days you're not even playing baseball and you can sit through those nine days plus the 16 and get at least four weeks right there with only missing basically you know two and a half weeks worth a game yeah the the the comment he made before the game shilt i mean he said the day before we got the absolute diagnosis he went first to home with some of the most beautiful artistic athletic movements you'll see he looked like tatty he looked like Ben or me running the bases that night remember that the the well he looked bad when he slowed down at the end he looked like he was an agony bro when he goes fast he says he's okay it's it's when he's decelerating or accelerating that it's really the the hard part and he can hit the obviously he was he was on fire at the plate yeah he can hit no problem it's just the running that is what really causes so when you know mike shilt said he could have pinched hit he can like kirk gibson he could have limped gone up there he can swing you just don't want him necessarily then having to run around the bases can you do the whole like adult league runner non-runner yeah just have someone sprinting out of the out of the box for him you're looking great you're looking at one no you can't they can't sprint out of the box for you but once you get to the base you can time non-runner you know i've seen where they have a line where someone stands there oh the fantasy they do that if they did that where you just have someone standing there yeah and as soon as he swings the bat the other person then runs turt to first base yeah they won't like they won't do that because somebody was injured injury injury yeah you can't do that in the big or we hadn't grown our team as a paraplegic yeah she had she she had uh one leg so but she had it she had someone else for him yeah can we do that for fernando titties genius not not allowed it's good for the game though to keep the stars in the game they should consider amending the rules to keep them out there as much as boss i mean i'm i'm here for i'm here for the non-runner rule all day the last out then has to go run for you i'm all about it i think it's great uh but no i it just you know listen no team is completely forthright when it comes to injuries i i've you know kind of gotten used to this again it's one of those things for me and i'm just speaking for myself when i see the injury stuff come out i'm like all right i mean well onward and upward i mean what are you going to do i what can i do about there's nothing i can do i i can't even be mad i can't you know lament it i i can't point fingers i just go okay next man up you know we're gonna have to figure out a way to win ball games and luckily they were able to last night you wonder how long that luck's gonna hold up though you know and they're gonna miss him at some point bro yeah there's there's a game where other guys won't come through that he would have come through if he had been there that's inevitable anytime you lose you know your best player one of your best players if not your best player um yeah it's gonna be uh it's gonna it's gonna sting a little bit but it's not impossible uh you know it's not impossible to go out and win baseball games without them they've done it before they've done it to great success without Fernando Tetis Jr. before it's not something i want to get used to though so uh him him being out potentially past the all-star break that stings a little bit also find out you darvish is not coming back today we talked about that a little bit earlier so Adam major is coming back and we'll get another start that was concerning as well of course yeah elbow yeah elbow inflammation so we'll we'll see and you know he said he was fine after his last start but obviously this popped up between the rehab start and now so no you darvish today and then uh hosea's ocar was sent down to triple A as well according to mike shilt to get some at bats and work on his game with uh Bryce Johnson who played last night i i know very little about Bryce Johnson uh not he's been in the big leagues before but very limited experience and then eggy is back as well and they're gonna try to work eggy in the outfield a little bit to try to get his bat in line up especially against left handers since he is one of the guys from the right side of the plate who hits lefty as well something the pot raise don't do well i i think you see eggy today certainly against mckenzie gore uh no question about it don't know where he's going to play um dh dh possibly even but but like you know jerks into decent dh candidate as well um there's there's again guys are banged up playing through stuff so and johnny burrito sent down to uh work on becoming a starter and stretching out which i think that makes a lot of sense it makes some sense i mean he's not providing a ton of value as the last guy essentially in the bullpen no but you need starting depth and if you can provide some of it i think that's a more valuable use for johnny burrito right now all right we'll come back Jesse agler will join us he got to call the walk off last night voice to the pod raise the incorporated i'll come in up next year with better wood so ninety seven three the fan let's get up and ask poly how much time we left in the brain because he runs out of the bathroom of all goes zero zero we are literally coming back right now we are coming back now we've got Jesse to talk to got to get an incorporated to get to if you can't hold it for the entire segment i don't know what to tell you i don't 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Padre fans let's make sure the padre's represented in Texas at the all-star game well let's just make sure jerks and pro four is there you can help by voting up to five times per day at padre's dot com slash all-star voting ends this Thursday and they have a ad during the game yesterday with Kyrie his son pro far asking begging it's incredible begging for you to vote for his dad you know and it would be one thing if it was like hey man like you're not having a good year we're not just gonna vote you in because your kid wants he's having a phenomenal season he's an all-star so I really don't have any doubt that he's gonna get there but let's let's make sure he does he does continue to lead in the latest updated voting so it looks like he's definitely gonna get to the the finals of the voting after the the voting closes on Thursday but again you can go to padre's dot com slash all-star again through Thursday for the preliminary round of all-star voting couple of quick stats here before we get to debob Kendrick here in a couple of minutes some stats from comparisons from last year and this is from the ut this morning so the padre's now have three extra inning wins this year in three games three and oh three no last year they had two extra inning wins in 14 chances two and 12 both of those came in like the last couple of weeks of the season the last two opportunities they now have 10 one-run wins this year they're 10 and 12 not great but better than last year when they had nine all year nine and 23 in one-run games they have now six times come back to win from down three or more runs that only happened four times all last year remember we're only halfway through this season they've already done it two more times than last year they have 16 wins when they've trailed or have been tied in the seventh inning or later only at 18 all of last year five walk-off wins had two walk-offs all of last season and um they're now 18 and 13 in games in which they've lost the lead where they hadn't and then lost it they were 18 and 33 in those games last year so quite the uh the stark difference between 2023 padre's when it comes to these tense games and the 2024 padre's who've been uh completely different i like i mean i love i love it it's great it's it's aging me incredibly in all of us but i'd rather have this than a bunch of else and the other uh unique thing is that uh next week will be the 55th anniversary of the only other time in padre's history that they gave up three or more runs in an extra inning and then came back and scored more than that to win they gave up four on july 5th 1969 their first season to the asterism the top of the 12th scored five in the bottom of the 12th to win nine to eight hadn't happened again until last night when they scored four in the bottom of the 10th to beat god's insane insane the washington nation how long can it go man how long can it last all right let's check traffic when we come back we're expected to be joined by bob kendrick president of the negro league's baseball museum in kansas city talk about willy mays and more next year on 97 three the fam saw a nice moment last night uh up in the bay area the san francisco giants all war number 24 to honor willy mays ended up getting a walkoff victory in the bob of the ninth inning against the chicago cubs of course uh saw the amazing show that mlb put on last week at the rickwood field game in bermingham alabama uh willies hometown and uh one of the guests there that day uh is joining us right now he's been on the program before he is a treasure trove of baseball history and knowledge and it is a pleasure to welcome the president of the negro league's baseball museum bob kendrick back with us here on benewood's uh 97 three the fan here in san diego bob good morning to you it is great to have you back on good morning and thanks so much for having me on the show you've been a very very busy man over the last couple of weeks we we had talked about trying to get you on and poly uh our producer said hey you can only come on on tuesday and i said fine absolutely we'll take bob kendrick any time uh you've been you've been very busy telling stories and and doing all the things that you do obviously a huge tremendous loss to the baseball world losing willy mays what a career what a life what a man he was what is your number one favorite willy mays story bob well it's a story that he shared with me directly and i was able to share that on air uh on the last Thursday on the fox broadcast but i'm out in san francisco in 2016 and brian murphy he was a big time radio sports talk show i was there in the bay area had set up for me to uh come out and speak to a group of kids out of mill valley california but the day that i arrived they were having a memorial service for a former san francisco giant picture and so all the grapes were there willy's there or land those the pay to for leap a loo they were playing of them uh then the florida marlin's and berry bons who was coaching for them he was there but anyway they arranged for me to have some private time with mr me now this is one of those pinch me kind of the moment i get proud of time with willy mays and so we're down in the player's garage and murphy actually said willy did you ever face satchel page and fellas really lights up like a christmas tree he says yes i face satchel i face satchel when i was 17 years old and the first time i faced satchel i had got a double out of it well satchel didn't know who this kid once he saw a little off-speed something young willy mays hit it in the gap get the double satchel steps off the mound he looks over at the third base but hey man you let me know when it comes back up again couple innings later here comes young willy mays back in the batter's box the third base but says hey sat there he is satchel looks at him he says son i ain't gonna try to trick you i'm gonna throw you three fastballs now mays even at 17 so he's thinking to himself you're going throw me three fastballs and i know they're coming willy said he threw three straight right by me i never saw him and on the third kick satchel by the time he releases the ball he's halfway between the mound and the batter's box and willy said he's turned to go back to the dugout and satchel looks at me says now go sit down little boy and it's unbelievable it is unbelievable because he is arguably the greatest major legal of all time yeah i think i think i think he is struck out by satchel page yeah we talked about it last week Bob we we we talked about obviously the numbers were there the man was five ten one hundred and seventy pounds and and played the way that he played with the power that he had is staggering staggering career well it really is because he's seen much larger because he felt like he was larger than life but when you look at that five ten one seven the man was absolutely chisel yeah you know and he wasn't looking at the way he was doing what country boys do you know all that hard work in the field and that and he was just ripped and he just had some god obviously some god given the ability but i don't want that to diminish the cerebral aspect of willy nays brought to the game he was a very astute ball player and so bob castes and i was talking and really would say himself that he made the easy plays look hard and the hard plays look easy because baseball came in you were going to be thoroughly entertained when you watched willy nays play and he was the consummate five two god but you're right five ten one hundred and seventy pounds of dynamite it's unreal talking about kendrick president of an eagerly's baseball museum and uh you know willy nays hit a six hundredth career home run here at san diego stadium and finished of course with six hundred and sixty not quite babe ruth but a lot of people were pointing out bob this last week he played his games what at the at the polo grounds and then at candlestick par two of the worst places for power hitters especially you know right-handed power hitters had he played in a more friendly environment you know for his twenty plus years i mean where would he where would he have been bob in home runs i mean number one all time well well he certainly would have eclipsed roof 714 prior to henry doing it there's no question in my mind he was averaging almost 40 home run the year he lost nearly two years uh to to service fighting in the korean war and and so yeah there's no doubt that he would have broken the record first who knows what that home run total would have been uh because he did miss a couple of prime years there uh during it during his war time and yeah it is but it just feels my heart with joy when you start to think about names like willy mays henry ern earny banks all members of the 500 home run club all come out of the legal leagues no question about it for those yeah for those who sometimes doubt the validity of the talent that was there in the legal league they are just three examples of that in this town they were three young players who transitioned in the major league baseball who became big stars talking about the people to understand but their guys who were better than willy mays henry ern earny bank that did get that opportunity that's what i wanted to ask you about i know we only got a couple minutes left talking to bob kendrick president of the negro leagues baseball museum we were talking about last week with the game on thursday night in vermingham and then of course you know there there's been and you know you you run the the negro leagues museum there do you feel there's been a really strong resurgence lately and i know you know kids love video games right and they put the negro league players into mlb the show and now young kids are getting into it as well i had that when i was a kid i learned about it um and and now it feels like there's this really cool resurgence happening and more people wanting to know about it and i couldn't be more happier that is exactly what we hope would happen when we started this museum way back in 1990 when i first met muckle neil one of the first questions i posed to him was but what motivated you to want to build a negro league baseball museum and his answer was so that we would be remembered and that's been our mission from the onset and it's beautiful to see all these milestone moments happening in and around the negro league and that the negro league baseball museum so there's at a hand in making these milestones occur so that these players are not only being remembered but their legacies will play on through this museum and the fact that young people are learning about these players but not only learning about them guys they're falling in love with these players from the negro league through a video game which was the biggest thing this museum has ever done was how did you bring the negro league to life you put them in a video game of course uh before you go you want to celebrate the good and remember all the great athletes but i thought at the rickwood field game the the most powerful moment was regi jackson and i'm sure you saw saw the video even if you didn't see it live of him telling the real story of what it was like to play back in the in the south in that day and i don't think i ever kind of really realized it the way he put it though and how hard it was for for some of those players trying to integrate the game of baseball and you know you hear regi tell that story and i'd heard regi tell that when he came to visit us here at the negro league baseball museum this is in the late 60s and 70 guys this is about 1947 right and and those black players were still experiencing many of the things that regi shared they were painful and difficult to hear but as i i relate that story there was a former negro league player named john mule miles forma Tuskegee airman lived in san Antonio and he had a classic quote relative to their testimony because sometimes people believe that when you tell your story that you're crying that you're complaining and that was so far from the case as he would say i'm not complaining i'm just explaining this is what happened and this is part of my story now everybody didn't handle it the same way because if you talk to the majority of the negro league players and they went through even far more than what regi alluded to but they just seemingly never allowed their hearts to be hard with hate and they would never bitter about it and they just seem to rise above whatever social circumstances that were put in front of them that doesn't mean that they liked the thing that happened to them as they were traveling the highways and byways of this country they didn't and they shared those stories but they also wanted you to know the joy that they had in playing this game and to me that's why the story of the negro leagues i believe is one of the greatest stories in the annals of american history because it's about the ability for the american spirit to come in and persevere and prevail bobs never cried about this bob so powerful really appreciate you spending a few minutes with us and if anyone gets a chance i can't wait i've never been to kansas city but can't wait to get an opportunity to visit the museum myself appreciate your time this morning anytime when you come out to read the only car let's see if another incentive to head on out bob kendrick the best president of the niggas baseball museum we're a little over time here but we'll come back reset everything on a tuesday morning yeah fantastic stuff on san diego's number one sports station 97-3 the fan will be right back who a very very spicy one last night at pet co park been talking about it all morning we'll continue to talk about it all morning that's what we do here on benham wood thanks so much for being here we are halfway home on a tuesday june 25th and um would you that's paul rindo the executive producer benjamin r higgins your friendly neighborhood sports anchor joins us as well i was watching the uh stanley cup game seven last night and uh it was an incredible incredible game i i kept it on until the pottery started but they they went to commercial and there was my beloved ben a little promo for you did you see that yeah i've got the uh me standing in front of panko park handsome you know looking like i'm delivering some sort of sports yeah in essence they told me to stand there and just pretend like you're talking so they could get a good shot of me that's great and they have sports some but ben higgins i'm like i know that dude look at you and the stanley cup uh stanley cup finals man do you watch something that game i did i watched a ton of that game um it was i had a multiple tv's going i had the college world series going on had a tennessee crown champions for the first time ever the florida panthers crown champions for the first time ever last night winning the stanley cup um in dramatic fashion so it was a very busy night for me at work yeah it was uh it was busy not at home man it's uh it's things are nuts right now we've got camps for days and it's just nuts like a summer uber driver dad you know clinic after camp after clinic it's always fun when you book them you're like that's gonna be great there's so many activities for them to do and then you realize they're six and three they can't take themselves so you actually have to go and then sit and and be there in in the scorching heat you're like this is i really i didn't think that we didn't think this through uh really like today i'll get out here i gotta go to seals camp and watch bow and bring bow home from seals camp then go to frozen ropes after that for practice wow it's busy busy busy little beaver so uh dad summer uber is uh is in full effect before we move on i want to thank uh bob kendrick again for coming on and sharing some of his willy mays knowledge and stories with us and and i wanted to just say because i saw someone pointed out in the chat when i talked about kind of being surprised by reggie jackson's comments obviously i've seen the jackie robinson movies i i know how how ugly it was when when the color line was broken in baseball and baseball was being integrated i didn't expect to hear that story from reggie jackson though i consider reggie jackson like a ballplayer of my childhood like a totally different era like i i know it wasn't perfect but i didn't realize that even players in like as bob said the late 60s going into the 70s we're facing such such hatred bro it's 2024 let's not act like that's still it is it's not i mean you know it's it's definitely i mean that that's like stuff from like a movie it's essentially that the stories that reggie jackson told were incredibly moving and i thought important for people to hear important for me to hear obviously that reminds you that any progress that's made is is always very slow and and very difficult to get where we want to be one of my biggest regrets that flat tire i got from Wichita for multiple reasons but the flat tire i got driving from Wichita to Kansas City on my way to the negro league museum got a flat tire in the middle in the middle of nowhere Kansas um and stopped you know for a few hours on the side of the road and i i made it in time for the padre's royals game uh did not make it in time to go to the negro league museum had to turn around after the game and come straight back to Wichita to fly out the next day one of my biggest regrets man i don't know what i'm gonna get to Kansas again you know i have no idea so i was really really bummed to miss it i was i was planning a good solid two to three hour visit also a question for a poly during that bob kendrick interview was that like what it's like working with me what woods did to bob multiple times jumping in and trying to interrupt him and ask a question because it was done yeah that's what i do all the time and i don't feel as awkward when i'm doing when you're doing it i was horrified yeah that you know how it's you know how is that how it feels when i do it it doesn't change in for me so much worse what it is it's so much worse when you're not the person doing it yeah i didn't realize felt for the last six years now i know i'm like i can put myself in your shoes and how horrifying it is yeah that you know because i was embarrassed you get those guys i mean at least i didn't walk at least i didn't ask him about a heart attack he didn't have you know what i mean like that's right but like what kind of moron whatever do you put a percent so bob how's your heart attack that wasn't me was the other guy i he has a cake people have a cadence and they stop and you're like is he done the uncomfortable silence between questions is all so you want to keep trying to keep it moving but i it's a lot different if they're in studio or even on zoom oh yeah i missed time the cadence and it happened it was up to midnight thanks to jerks and pro-fars heroics literally up to midnight leg and beg going i can't sleep how am i supposed to sleep maybe it didn't work i'm just sitting i fought through the ambient i went through it and now how late do you go before you're just like i'm just going in going in early i mean it you know one ams my cutoff i because i've had like not i guess not insomnia but trouble falling asleep i mean if i'm laying in bed from called nine to like eleven yeah i might switch it up i might go lay on the couch change of scenery maybe that helps and if it's like one a.m i'm like i'm just pulling on all night i'm just gonna go on yeah i've you know i've been here like two thirty in the morning before i mean it just happens all right we have a weird house you know my wife gets up early for to do whatever she does and so i'm up early a lot and i hate it but last night it was nothing other than it was nothing other than just being extremely fired up now i made the mistake of after the walk off going on twitter x whatever that's the mistake because then i saw jessie winker in the stands essentially screaming at a fan so that got me all fired up then i saw the nationals what they said at the end of the game we still have that poly this is after they win the game the nationals broadcast we're talking about it and i tell you what Bob the nationals dugout is not thrilled with the way the jerks and pro far celebrated that walk off hit he went right towards the nationals dugout and started screaming at them and ill tomorrow vargis jessie winker kberuese stood on the warning track as the pajres were celebrating that walk off jerks and pro far not celebrating by looking at his teammates instead screaming at the nationals dugout for the intentional walk that loaded the bases challenging him in that moment so some trauma yeah so i made the mistake of watching that well then my blood pressure starts to rise and i i get that defensive mode of wanting to defend our guys and and looking at at trying to see it from their side of of the fence and i i couldn't really see it because i had also watched the top of the tent and i watched cj Abrams all night i watched nixon zell you know running around the base is screaming like he had just we hit a walk off in the world so he's good for you big big hit clutch knock two out home run you got a three run lead bro i fully understood it and i'd imagine anytime cj Abrams comes back and does something against the pajres it's gonna feel extra good for him you know anytime you you face your former organization and have a big game and he was he was fired yesterday he's been playing real well this year so that's what screwed me i need to know on a wall i need to remember we walk it off just put the phone down and go to bed and try to go to sleep then or put a movie on or something but i sat up there stewing all night till about midnight so i was in sleep mode i was gassed i know i couldn't do it man i'm an addict it happens you know you do what you do but i was i was all charged i couldn't wait to get here this morning uh after a win like that but yeah man the the interesting thing is and we'll see if anything spills over into today you know a good night's sleep is always good for everyone i mean if you have an argument with your wife or your you know partner whatever your teammate give it 24 hours see what happens right i don't think jessie winker is going to be as pissy today at 640 i don't think mckenzie gore or davie martinez or caybert ries or any of the guys that he just mentioned i don't think jerks and pro far is going to be as fired up today at 640 as he was last night right like 24 hours can do a lot now as we said i we didn't think jerks and pro far really looked like he was directing much for the national's dugout now he admitted he felt disrespect he felt disrespected by the wall which is fine which fires him up yeah whatever he takes that as motivation and uses that that's great but i didn't get the sense that he was like legitimately mad no at the washington nationals he was probably secretly pretty happy they got that opportunity he's four for four with the bases loaded this year by the way yeah and they'd all be extra base hits if he had bothered to touch second base uh last night as well which he didn't so it ended up being a walk-off single instead of a double you know and again you're talking about two teams that are are pretty much neck and neck right now um san diego pottery certainly cannot afford another guy to get injured right i mean wouldn't it be our luck for something to to happen somebody goes out and pulls a hammy or something you know in a in a fight but i will say this man like if they have any issue with that celebration that's pretty tired that's pretty tired if they do you know that's a huge huge moment in a huge situation again the pitch up and then uh to jerks and pro far and knock them down to come through and that at bat was was pretty clutch i don't want to see anybody hurt certainly but i certainly don't want to roll over again for another team if they got a if they have a you know problem today and they want to go out and and dot one of our players i certainly hope that we retaliate and handle business but you know i don't want to see us do anything you know to start and the other reason why last night's game was so important is that you don't feel as confident about today's matchup with Adam major you know i was i was last week ready for him to go back and get some more work in the minor leaks you were ready for you darvish to come back you were ready for him to go do door dash and now he's back to make a fifth start today against mckenzie gore was been solid for the nationals all year this is a this is a tough matchup for the pod race they'll need guys to come through again they'll need some offense in this game i i don't anticipate out of major going and tossing a you know seven innings of shutout ball today it's just unrealistic based on what we've seen so far so you lose that one now you're putting yourself in position to lose the series uh now you have a chance steel today's game and you can go for a sweep tomorrow in the homestand finale yeah i mean look tonight's gonna be a tall order uh it really is and when patrick corbin you know holds you to five hits and and darrick law again i feel like darrick law has been pitching since i was in high school when he came out last night i went this guy's still around i had no idea it's just one of those guys that's been hanging around forever he's only 33 years old i looked it up because i thought this man is 46 years old i feel like i'd been i'd seen him forever uh when those guys sit down 19 in a row on you holy cow man like that needs to be addressed that needs to be talked about they certainly don't get a pass for that three runs cannot be where you take your foot off the gas against the guy like patrick corbin letting him get in a groove bend and retire however many he did along with the bullpens help it was 19 at one point that that doesn't work we got jesse agler coming up at the bottom of the hour if you'd like to contribute an incorporated word you can submit it in our youtube stream or via our twitter handle at benon woods uh we need a vocabulary word for jesse for tonight's broadcast uh when he joins us it's 8 35 this morning and i want to go through uh we haven't really done so yet the roster moves what they all mean what the pot raise did yesterday because they made a lot of them coming up on our next segment but i know you wanted before we want to break uh you had a shout out that you wanted to do here yeah we need to do a uh shout out to his family saw the uh news come over this morning that shifty shell did you know if i told you shifty shell shock passed away would you have any earthly idea none none whatsoever that's the first time i've ever heard those two words put together in a sentence now paul do you have the song the song i do okay what if i played this for you anything it's not ringing any bells yet nothing nothing no thanks y'all no what error are we talking about here i mean was that like early 2000s he passed away at 49 years old so he's our age essentially so our era the era of us right but musically was he uh our era okay he's the same age so was our era the musical artist yes he was the uh the singer front man for a band called crazy town i had number one song and it was in 2000 the year 2000 and passed away 49 years old cause of death unknown he had struggled a lot with addiction in his in his life and career just that you know kind of a one hit wonder band but that song was massive massive massive massive and he passed away you know how we do it here on better woods this morning and i really hope we can see more unity and more peace when already things are so difficult so shall out to his family i ran into shifty shell shock in los angeles i was actually ran into him yet literally was going to see jason his bell play in la and was outside the venue and he walked by walking his dog and i you recognized oh immediately i mean the video you couldn't get away from butterfly you just couldn't get away from it it was everywhere you went come my lady come come my lady and uh and yeah i i didn't roast master said i did not have the cd i just heard the song on the radio like the rest of you there's your old pal woods and shifty shell shock the streets of los angeles um yeah man it was uh he said he was a really nice guy super cool um and uh 49 years old is way way too young way way too young so rest in peace shout out to your family shift i am uh i'm sorry that i still don't really know who you are i can't believe he's never heard that somebody doesn't ring any bells i'm in crazy town the name shifty shell shock the the song i just must have missed that year i guess they don't play it at sporting venues so you've missed it entirely just missed that year i feel like they do that was the main i feel like that was the main song for the san diego strike force oh maybe yeah maybe i feel like burt grossman told us that because he loved that song so he picked it of course he did so great so so great all right we'll uh we'll take a quick time out when we come back go through some of the uh interesting roster moves the pod race made yesterday and then Jesse Aguiler will join us at the bottom of the hour for the incorporated i'm all coming up whatever if he was a big crazy town fan my guess is no jesse's like me my guess he'll is a hard over his head yeah i'm coming up next after traffic here at 97.3 the fan i'll be honest um yesterday was shaping up is one of the very low points of the 2024 year for the san diego pod race yeah and they uh ended up losing that game combined with the i mean the pretty bad news they got before the game involving multiple players you would have looked and gone wow this is uh this is a tough one to swallow for the san diego pod race of course we mentioned uh you know frananda tetties jr earlier and going on the injured list with the the stress reaction in his right femur that's the biggest bone in your body that's the big big one under your quad there and all your long banana bones planning to me bones planning young all year long frananda tetties jr thought he was dealing with a muscular problem but it turned out it was deeper than that and finally they got the imaging a couple of days ago that showed the stress reaction and in that leg and uh tetties spoke after the game and said it's really bothered him since korea and really got bad in the first series at san francisco that first couple of weeks of the season and he's been dealing with it ever since it's a sharp pain uh recently it started to like radiate he feels it throughout his entire body especially when accelerating and decelerating he can kind of run but then when he tries to slow up it just absolutely bites him or when he's trying to speed up it really like the shooting pain comes up through his leg was very hard to deal with and and ultimately the decision was made in order to get it healthy he's gonna have to spend some time not doing all those things that he does when he plays baseball like flying around sprinting around the bases and playing the outfield so no frananda tetties jr and while mike shilt was like well you know it's probably more than 10 days uh frananda tetties was like no this is uh this is definitely several weeks type recovery certainly through the all-star break and it sounds like even possibly beyond that a little bit if he really wants to get a hundred percent healthy which he will it's something that you will recover from doctors say it's not no long-term concerns he'll always he just needs rest and he'll be fine but that rest can be anywhere from six to sometimes up to 14 weeks to get it completely healthy which is uh quite a bit longer than you know you got the indication of when the pot raise first made the announcement yesterday man i i yeah i i don't know what to say about it i mean i saw the comments yesterday um it just you know listen it doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like they're everyone's on the same page you know is that safe to say you know it just doesn't seem like they're on the same page i mean i mean messaging wise messaging you know i assume that mike shilt is the one who sets the page maybe he doesn't explain to frananda tetties hey we don't want you to say you're going to be out for more than a few weeks but but he did but he did so i i mean it was it was pretty obvious even with shilt's comments that they picked this now knowing they only have what fit 16 more games before the all-star break a number of off days and the all-star break that you know hopefully you miss as few games as possible because you've got you know nine of those days you're not even playing baseball and you can sit through those nine days plus the 16 and get at least four weeks right there with only missing basically you know two and a half weeks worth a game yeah the the the comment he made before the game shilt i mean he said the day before we got the absolute diagnosis he went first to home with some of the most beautiful artistic athletic movements you'll see he looked like tatty he looked like Ben or me running the bases that night remember that the the well he looked bad when he slowed down at the end he looked like he was an agony bro when he goes fast he says he's okay it's it's when he's decelerating or accelerating that it's really the the hard part and he can hit the obviously he was he was on fire at the plate yeah he can hit no problem it's just the running that is what really caused me so when you know mike shilt said he could have pinched hit he can like kirk gibson he could have limped gone up there he can swing you just don't want him necessarily then having to run around the bases can you do the whole like adult league runner non-runner yeah just have someone sprinting out of the out of the box for him you're looking great you're looking at one no you can't they can't sprint out of the box for you but once you get to the base you can time non-runner you know i've seen where they have a line where someone stands there you fantasy they do that if they did that where you just have someone standing there yeah and as soon as he swings the bat the other person then runs turt to first base yeah they won't they won't do that because somebody was injured injury injury yeah you can't do that in the big or we hadn't grown our team as a paraplegic yeah she had she she had uh one leg so but she had it and someone else for him yeah can we do that for frananda titties junior it's not not allowed it's good for the game though to keep the stars in the game they should consider amending the rules to keep them out there as much as possible i mean i'm i'm here for i'm here for the non-runner rule all day the last out then has to go run for you i'm all about it i think it's great uh but no i it just you know listen no team is completely forthright when it comes to injuries i i've you know kind of gotten used to this again it's one of those things for me and i'm just speaking for myself when i see the injury stuff come out i'm like all right i mean well onward and upward i mean what are you going to do i what can i do about there's nothing i can do i i can't even be mad i can't you know lament it i can't point fingers i just go okay next man up you know we're gonna have to figure out a way to win ball games and luckily they were able to last night you wonder how long that luck's gonna hold up though you know and they're gonna miss him at some point well yeah there's there's a game where other guys won't come through that he would have come through if he had been there that's inevitable anytime you lose you know your best player one of your best players if not your best player um yeah it's gonna be uh it's gonna it's gonna sting a little bit but it's not impossible uh you know it's not impossible to go out and win baseball games without them they've done it before they've done it to its success without frananda tattooed junior before it's not something i want to get used to though so uh him him being out potentially past the all-star break that stings a little bit also find out you darvish is not coming back today we talked about that a little bit earlier so at a measure is coming back and we'll get another start that was concerning as well of course yeah elbow yeah elbow inflammation so we'll we'll see and you know he said he was fine after his last start but obviously this popped up between the rehab start and now so no you darvish today and then uh hosea's ocar was sent down to triple a's well according to mike shilt to get some out bats and work on his game with uh brice johnson who played last night i know very little about brice johnson uh not he's been in the big leagues before but very limited experience and then eggy is back as well and they're going to try to work eggy in the outfield a little bit to try to get his bat in line up especially against left-hander since he is one of the guys from the right side of the plate who hits lefty's well something the pot raise don't do well i i think you see eggy today certainly against mckenzie gore uh no question about it don't know where he's going to play um d h d h possibly even but but like you know jerksons a decent d h candidate as well um there's there's again guys are banged up playing through stuff so and johnny burrito sent down to uh work on becoming a starter and stretching out that was interesting i think that makes a lot of sense yeah it makes some sense i mean he's not providing a ton of value as the last guy essentially in the bullpen no but you need starting depth and if he can provide some of it i think that's a more valuable use for johnny burrito right now all right welcome back jesse agler will join us he got to call the walk off last night voice to the pot raise the incorporated all coming up next year with benwood so ninety seven three the fam let's get up and ask poly how much time we left in the brain because he runs out of the bathroom and all goes zero zero the we are literally coming back right now we are coming back now we've got jesse to talk to got an incorporated to get to if you can't hold it for the entire segment i don't know what to tell you i don't have a choice at this point you can go right now and we can just uh just vamp until it's time but uh yeah we're we're back and we're getting ready for jesse agler he's going to be with us right after a check a traffic here on ninety seven three the fam i probably says jesse's gonna call in in just one second here um as a play-by-play guy walk-offs are your chance to have signature moments you know those are the kind of calls that get replayed into the future last year jesse had almost no chances to do it you're a whole summer long with two walk-offs the entire year and now what potters for in the last seven home games yeah they've had a walk-off ending three on home runs three straight on home runs and then of course last night in extra innings there's just been a lot more drama to the baseball season this year last year was shockingly at least positive drama free for the sandy ego potrace yeah shockingly shockingly this year historically almost this year it's been a different story for the sandy ego potrace and and there has been moments there's been several memorable significant moments uh you know that that if a place already and we're just barely halfway through the season probably working on getting jesse on the line what's going right now but uh people in the chat he's not going to say hawk toa okay like they're like i'll donate money to the peter sidler fun just do that anyway number one he's a professional broadcaster he's not going to get on the air tonight and incorporate hawk toa into the into the bronchi we get in trouble i think we have a a great word for him we do but that's not it that's actually two words so yes you're right this is even worse it's a three total different words all right uh looks like we've got him now let's go out to jesse agler who joins us right now after last night's seven to six ten inning victory over the washington nationals jesse good morning to you good morning guys how are you we're doing well i i know the answer to this question i'm going to ask it anyway when you were in college do you ever pull an all-nighter like studying uh when you were at university of miami oh not studying listen to him listen to him not studying what a legend uh that answer was is he coming in okay we got him jesse you there oh yeah you cut now you're cutting out that now we're trying to get involved jesse let me try calling it back in the jesse where is he like joins us from the worst cell phone reception yeah it's fine with the orange county a few weeks ago was bad and now it's uh it's bad again today yeah it's all right why did you think that he did you think he had or had not done it no i thought he absolutely had studied like staying up all night writing a paper because why well so because i feel like everybody pulls one or two i never did one well you didn't know never so when you actually do the work and repair you don't have to do an all-nighter at any point if you get rest before the exam you don't have to stay up all night preparing you feel good you go to bed in a reasonable hour that's the way it should be done once i mean i was an english major with four senior level english classes i had 20 page papers do you can't there's not enough time and now i pushed all those to my last year right so i i had a big load and i had to manage class said load uh and so sometimes you have to stay up all night writing papers what i want to ask him though so you don't even know probably you pulled an all-nighter right all the time all the time all the time do you remember that feeling that you had when you finished your test your final turn in your paper whatever when you're walking back to your apartment in your car and you're like you're in a day like in a day's in a trance that's this team feels like it's on one long all-nighter right now for the last week like they they have their heads have to be spinning you know with with all the uh with all the emotion with all the the grinding that they've done you can't grind that much and not be exhausted and that's what i want to ask Jesse Aguirre about okay i can see your at least um comparison there well you know what i'm talking remember that feeling your you see i was a procrastinator i would wait for the last minute and you know like cram you walk outside the sun's blazing you have not slept you turned in your you did your final and you're walking to your car and you're like strangely i feel very alive right now i feel very alive my emotions are at the the the skin you know i can feel my nerves it's a matter i'll be done at like four a.m with my paper whatever and i clean the kitchen do a little workout in do whatever i know it's funny because people think that people who don't procrastinate are somehow doing it because they're just very responsible human beings i don't do it because i hate the feeling of feeling like i'm not gonna get something done in time it's so stressful when i go down to the last minute i don't ever want to put myself in that situation i want to always know that if worse comes to worse i have those last few hours that i have a cushion that i don't need but if i needed it it's there it's always there in reserve so that's why i don't put things off until the last possible second you know what's weird about me is that i'll be two hours early for stuff right which is the the definition of procrastination like psychotically early but when it comes to hey i got a paper new i got this test now i need the pressure sometimes to like make me perform see now i i would never want to be two hours early i value efficiency right so much and i feel like okay i'm not planning my day very well if i get somewhere two hours in advance we got my whole point of that jesse was asking you you know when you pull an all-nighter if you turn in a paper or you know do uh you know do your final that feeling you had kind of walk into your car where your nerves are exposed and you're like man this is nuts like sleep deprivation i feel like that's what the potteries are going through right now with all this grinding that they're doing to stay one game over 500 it's been pretty remarkable yeah i mean they are a resilient team and i think that's been pretty apparent early on and look you know a lot of teams say that but i think particularly after last year and kind of the way everything went down and how much they struggled in one run games and extra inning games and all that it was really important to try and establish that early this season and they did that you know i mean they they came out out of the shoe with a couple of really big comebacks in april uh they had the crazy game against the dodgers in soul where everybody was hitting and it just kind of felt you know coming out of that like all right you know this is a different team and i think that was a nice way to sort of you know turn the page from last year because and look as we know every team is different year to year like the reality is last year when it comes to that kind of stuff doesn't matter and you can back that up with a statistical argument you know r asp last year is no bearing on r asp this year so we all kind of thought all right it should be better this year but just sort of like psychologically get over the hump and be able to have the success that they had earlier this season and for i think mike shill to talk about it as much as he's talked about it and to make a point about it as much as he's made a point about it really helped you know this 2020 for team say all right last year is last year we're all about the windshield and not the rearview mirror but we also talked earlier about it's kind of a catch 22 that there's nothing you can necessarily do you have to experience some success to build that positive feeling and last year's team just never never got to experience it so of course they never were able to really build some of those feelings and you know you know good vibes going forward because it just didn't happen for them the crazy thing is last year end of the year right they have like their good run you know they win five in a row or whatever at the end of the season they win an extra inning game in San Francisco than another one game 162 and all of us myself included kind of wrote that off is like all right well it didn't matter because you know they were essentially all but eliminated for most of that run and they were eliminated for a good chunk of it at the end so it was kind of like you know all right throw it away it doesn't really mean anything and you know I made note in spring training a couple of times that last year this team with jerks and pro far on the roster at the end of the season went 16 and 5 and I kind of said it like tongue in cheek during the spring training broadcasts because like hey that's kind of cool right and there's like a story there but we all know better it couldn't have just been because jerks and pro far showed up that's not why they won 16 out of their last 21 games last year but you know kind of what you're saying there is a different vibe and it's very hard to say he isn't a huge part of that and look you're absolutely right you have to go out and get the hits you have to get out and do the thing but you know sometimes there are guys you know that make a big difference you know intangible and in intangible ways and it's getting harder and harder to think the jerks and pro far is not one of the best examples of that when it comes to this pottery team in this pottery clubhouse and so I'm loving the attention he's getting nationally I'm loving that he's leading the way and all star balloting because it is so deserved you know from the wrong numbers standpoint and what he's produced this year from the way he's sort of battling through this knee situation to obviously the impact which I think is gigantic that he's had on this team. No question about it talking to Jesse Agler voice of the pod race you can hear him tonight 97-3 the fan along with Tony Gwynne junior I you know another one is Jackson Merrill being 21 years old and now honestly like he's a leader and we talked about the message that you're hearing coming out of there you know last year's message was essentially oh don't worry don't worry we'll get there will be where we need to be this year's message is don't mess with us we're a bunch of effing ballers they've said it they've called themselves ballers so many times and I'm like this they're act they actually believe this and when you watch them play yeah man they have those games where you're like oh man who wants to face these guys they're just relentless they don't quit it's pretty apparent that Jackson Merrill is another one of those guys in that clubhouse at 21 first taste of the big leagues and now is you know a regular that people are like should we extend him another 12 years it's it's been pretty remarkable yeah I don't think there's any reason I've extension talks for a lot of like kind of obvious logistical reasons but he's playing his ass off and he's I'm I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying watching Jackson Merrill like way more than I expected you know just sort of the natural art he's 20 at the beginning of spring training he turns 21 you know let's not expect too much you know let's hope for the best but I mean he's exceeded every expectation I've had in every way and he is a great kid and he's a dog as you're talking about man he's he's he's up on the top railing of the dugout he's intense and I think that whole thing goes to a conversation about roster construction that sometimes gets a little bit put off to the side usually when we're talking about roster construction we're talking left right we're talking power contact we're talking whatever but like there is something I believe when it comes to roster construction that should involve personality oh yeah and you know kind of having not necessarily just the right mix of guys because that's a little bit difficult but a mix of guys who have different kinds of like edges to them um you know I think everybody understands the way that you know a team will sometimes take on the personality of its leadership and how certain guys will you know follow other guys and that can be good and the person and the situation you know sometimes you need personality A sometimes you need personality B sometimes you need personality Y and that's the good thing is you've got different sort of like versions of that in the Padre clubhouse and I'm not suggesting like Jackson Merrill is leading the way at 21 years old but I tell you what the energy that he brings the intensity that he brings the ability that he brings it's all contagious and all that stuff matters and that can get other guys riled up in a good way he has been a critical piece to the success this team has had very similar to profile right with like kind of that you know high energy intensity and attitude you know jerks and always looking to create a chip on his shoulder over something and it helps him he's one of those guys and it is really really fun to watch let me say this about the 2020-14 and I know everybody in town knows this because people have been showing up like crazy not supposed to have 39,000 on a Monday against the national okay like it's incredible every single night out there but this is a very watchable baseball team not only because of like the comebacks and the sort of you feel like they're never out of it thing but the energy and the excitement that those guys play with and on top of that like they don't strike out anymore it's remarkable this is a team that struck out like every other team basically a ton you know the last couple of years and it's like all of a sudden the switch got flipped this season they're putting the ball in play they're just a more entertaining team to observe than they've been really I think at any time since I've been here which is saying something because there's been some cool teams but this year's team is so fun to watch and and they're just kind of doing it a little bit differently than so many of the other really good teams top batting average in baseball will leave the league and bunt hits as well and they they hit home runs so they can do it in lots of different ways it is entertaining you're absolutely right Jesse you mentioned jerksons you know motivation and the the near hit by pitch the intentional walk to put them up and he talked about it after the game now do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you would kind of hear in from the Washington Nationals oh yes yes excuse me Washington Nationals dugout at the end of the game wow that was an all-timer okay over there we don't know I haven't quite been the same since our golf term actually he's dying did you play I do we didn't play at all we didn't we just did a great thing yeah tired they can hands kissing babies buddy that's nice um congrats good job thank you was our question there look I expect any fireworks tonight oh well fireworks you know I mean like uh no I mean you never know but I mean mckenzie is fiery you know remember that uh you tried to fight his third baseman in the dugout a couple weeks ago uh he's on the mountain for the nat so he definitely has had times and he's admitted to this you know kind of what his emotions uh you know get to him but he's he's a pro like I don't know I mean what are you guys expecting like what am I missing here I just I don't know I mean the the way the Nationals TV broadcasters were describing the reaction from guys like Jesse Winkert or Winkert and Cabert Ruiz they were really unhappy with jerks in celebration after the game oh I mean I don't know that that you like I think we're at the point in baseball now where you know you get to walk off when you got to expect all kinds of craziness and if the guy gets knocked on his backside you know what is it two pitches before the game winning hit you know he's probably going to be a little bit fired up in that moment um you never know in baseball I don't have a great sense of like how the gnats handle stuff we haven't seen them since last summer um so you know maybe that is kind of the way they like to go about business um but I wouldn't think you know there's a reason for it look they're a team like the Padres who are you know very much in this you know early season playoff conversation if I'm the Washington Nationals I'm not trying to get caught up in something like that yeah you know I'm trying to win another game or two here because all of these games against these teams that could be in the wild card match really important I remember tiebreakers now head to head um so the three games that they're playing here the three games that they'll play in Washington after the all-star break you know could be if the gnats hang around the playoff picture all summer long you know those could end up being like critically important games for both of these teams so that's my perspective it would be like hey you got to you know worry about trying to win a game not you know being upset that somebody was happy that they won one we got a little behind on the technical difficulties so let's get quickly to the Incorporated word for today poly's got it for you here Jesse bivouac bivouac you probably heard that before right oh yeah every day yeah every day every day easy one Bob bivouac is a temporary encampment without tents or cover used by usually soldiers or mountaineers a bivouac or yeah yeah bivouac you've got a lot of temporary shelters out on a baseball field that should be no problem for you tonight Jesse good luck with that I've got I've got one in my head and yeah we'll see what we can do all right thanks for listening tonight uh six forty first pitch with Tony Gwen jr 540 eco water so cal pre-game show thank you Jesse I guess Jesse act now we got him nice and clear by the end there let's uh let's remember whatever that took to get him sounding that good in our uh in our Incorporated segment what happened to you I have no idea can we no idea I felt like I had some nut skin but I haven't eaten any nuts in my throat rattle report coming up thank you I can't help but thinking that if I was a fan of the Colorado Rockies I might be a little perturbed by jerks and pro-fars 2024 season yeah anyway the sign you know about eight million bucks is a free agent in Colorado last year where you proceeded to at least buy war be perhaps the least productive player in all of baseball last year and now he comes back to the sandy who pot raised it you know an eighth the price and proceeds to be the best outfielder in the entire national league this year I mean the guy is born born to play in San Diego I hate that he even left I I do you know when we're sitting around lamenting things and I try not to I do often think about what last year would have been like had he been here you know because again you talk about the Jesse just talked about the way they ended the season you know when they got him back what if he had started in spring training with these guys what could have happened it goes to show you those as Jesse was kind of talking about that chemistry is not simply a matter of getting good ball players with good attitudes all in the same room it has to mix well together because jerks and pro-fars had zero effect on the Rockies last year none whatsoever I mean it's the same guy I'm sure he came with his same passion and you know smiles and fiery attitude but mixed with that team it did nothing somehow mixed though with this pot raised team mixed with the specific personalities of Fernando Tete's junior and Manny Machado and the guys in this clubhouse it seems to be like magic waters for the sandy ego pot raised and not even for jerks and pro-far too right for jerks and pro-far it's it's there's something about here that he he loves playing here this is his you know how they always say well you know certain guys are made for New York or Boston or Philly jerks it's made for San Diego that's he is a fit here in San Diego he was he was a good player in his other stops but when he's here he plays differently and sometimes it's not even good players who end up being that guy or a alfaro it's not a good player no it wasn't even really a good player in 2022 he just kept kept coming up with huge moments remember he was he was such not a good player that they wouldn't even use him once in the postseason ever Austin Nola out there he's like I'm catching again it's not really it's not like they were putting Johnny Bench back there every single day well we just can't get you into the game where alfaro it was Austin Nola that they were using every single day because they had so little confidence in in Jorge alfaro I need to do anything pitch in nothing nothing there were times I'm like just use it now I don't care if you hate him he's on the post season roster what the hell happened yet his magic was an undeniable part of that 2022 and and part of the reason why you got there you know why you got as far as you did was Jorge alfaro and I wonder had Nola pulled a quad what would they have done crony back to the dish like what in the world was that all about we can look back at it and laugh now but it was really really weird but yeah man the you never know when you're gonna you never know when you're gonna hit on one right and and with jerks and pro far coming back couldn't be happier for the you know now that you think about it Bob had Bob Melvin had twice he had he had alfaro in the playoffs and they had carpenter for a month where he just refused to use a player on his roster yeah if that wasn't a sign that there was maybe a disconnect between AJ Preller and Bob Melvin hey AJ I'm giving you this player Bob's going I'm not using I'm not using I'm not using you get to say you get to pick the roster but I get to set the lineup and he's not going to be in my lineup every single day it was Matt Carpenter healthy available yeah yeah he's able to go off the bench but he just rotted he rotted here for a month it was crazy so yeah who knows what that stemmed from you have your ideas you have your theories about what went what went on there and alfaro is the story that I've heard a thousand rumors but I don't know any of them to be sure I think of the scene in Moneyball where he wants to keep playing who is it Jeremy Jambi at first base or no it was Carlos Carlos Peña at first base yeah Carlos Peña is not playing first base for you why because I just traded him you can't play you can't play I'll see you back as I am also traded Jambi you're killing this team Jeremy's gone to and Jeremy's gone to you've got control of the lineup but I've got control over the roster just trade all the guys that you want to play and I don't want him there all right uh let's get some other headlines it is time for today's rattle report and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the rattle report now tuned it to the most greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major link baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get over here all right all right all right all right before i get started do you want to do you want to hear Ben again i mean i've been waiting for it more than anything he tried to right yeah he tried it to vamp just jump right in maybe i was trying to profile right brother we got plenty of to have played that we have 55 minutes that's always my problem there's always more time to fill if you missed my mistakes this was uh about 15 minutes ago with Jesse Aguiler on the zoom hotline do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you would kind of hear in from the washington nationals from the washington nationals not quite it was good can you remarral us for the home one i'm kind of hearing from the washington nationals excuse me i'm on the way and the angels batting order angels batting order just excuse me wore out the uh where it's sock's fishing stick like there's nothing better there's nothing better than that nothing nothing makes me happier than that in the world my kid my kid can get a home run i think that's better to nationals like she slowed down she's into nationals she's into nationals this is amazing i'm crying tears of my eyes right now you did your own haktua that's what that was you feel better now she's a nurse yeah i felt fine three seconds before it happened it was instantaneous she's a national right there you feel it usually usually like for ten seconds you can go uh oh here it comes here it comes right there it was instantly back in my throat he was there there's nothing i can do about it that's so good you're like i gotta get through this question right now holy crap that's so good save that forever she's in nationals how do you put that on a t-shirt that's what i want to know we gotta find a way all right let's uh let's dive into it gentlemen we'll start off uh in the world of hockey the 2023-2024 NHL season came to an end last night game seven of the Stanley Cup finals florida and edminton with all the momentum climbing down from their 0-3 deficit forcing a game seven but florida that just enough to get by uh they won two to one last night watched uh pretty much all the game i watched the whole first period and then i switched over had that game muted with the potteries game on the mainstream but uh yeah two to one florida pretty good game man overall i i didn't see a whole lot of the rest of the series i don't want to tell you it was chippy close games or anything like that but uh last night's game was great and then i i firmly believe the Stanley Cup the tradition that goes along with the Stanley Cup i watched the elite the trophy ceremony at the end how every guy gets to hold it and do a lap around the ice and kiss it and then they pass it on to their teammate and the team just sits there watches every single guy get their moment i thought it was awesome uh here's how it sounded on local radio in florida the final seconds ten seconds left to what pithers a dream 30 years in the meow is a real the florida pithers have won the Stanley Cup what Stanley is coming home you always will have a place in some florida oh my god the pithers have won the Stanley Cup for the first time oh my god oh oh start the celebration self-florida the pithers have done it Stanley Cup champions this is a drunk fan just walking to grab a mic grab the mic it's the woods of the crew there holy cow exactly how i imagine tony gwin jr acting when dr idler finally makes that call yes the Stanley Cup is coming home to sunrise florida where it's always belong yes we're it's always going 30 years the kids grew up on the frozen ponds of south florida dreaming of a Stanley Cup title have won the Stanley Cup for the first time oh this is incredible incredible incredible it's a great game yeah Conor McDavid though he's gonna be seeing his missed opportunity in his dream right i mean that missed opportunity but he was acknowledged as the best player man in a very uh in a very rare situation Conor McDavid won the cons my trophy is the most valuable player despite the fact that he was on the losing team yeah now it's for the entire post-season so the argument was definitely there that that Conor McDavid was the best player in the NHL playoffs but we we live now in such a you know it's all about the winning team sports mentality that it's becoming much harder to justify giving a player on a losing team the most valuable player award how valuable could you have been if your team didn't actually win the title isn't someone on the winning team more valuable because their team got the whole way yeah and you know he didn't come out to get it which i totally understand i totally understand that i don't yeah on the road in front of the other fans i noticed yeah i just lost you know we just battled back yeah man i i have no problem with that whatsoever there's only been one Super Bowl MVP from a losing team Dallas Cowboys linebacker Chuck Howley uh intercepted uh two passes and recovered a fumble in a 16-13 loss to the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl five my aunt Brenda dated his son really Scott i went to this i went to Scott Howley yeah pretty cool Super Bowl MVP uh one time in the NBA Jerry West uh they talked about it in winning time 1971 NBA Finals MVP despite a 4-3 loss to the Boston Celtics that year uh and it's never happened oh it happened once in baseball too Bobby Richardson in the world series in 1960 hit 367 for the Yankees with 12 runs batted in including a grand slam but Yankees lost in seven to the Pittsburgh Pirates so it does happen very rarely but mostly way back in the past not modern day sports where the losing player gets the MVP award that's it for the hockey season uh the new season begins actually this weekend with the NHL draft no lag there and uh i saw this was pretty cool i might actually need to tune in and just see what it looks like they're gonna host the NHL draft from the sphere in Las Vegas great move great move amazing move that's gonna look super cool rarely does the NHL outshine like the NBA or NFL in such things but how the NFL didn't come up with that already i know i had no idea how they missed that opportunity all right uh we'll switch over to some local sports news i would say pretty surprising news i thought the San Diego wave announced that they have parted ways with head coach Casey Stoney club made the announcement yesterday Paul Buckle is going to serve as the interim head coach they issued a statement they said we are immensely grateful to Casey for her commitment to our club and the positive impact she has had both on and off the pitch that was from Jill Ellis over the past seasons Casey has guided us to significant milestones and her contributions have been instrumental in laying a strong foundation on which to build the decision to part ways was very hard and not made in haste but given the ambition of this club and where we are in our season we felt the change was necessary at this time so obviously we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes but certainly from the surface level last year they had the best record in the NWSL although they lost in the semifinals in the playoffs this year they're near the bottom of the standings but they've dealt with a ton of injuries Alex Morgan and other players have missed several games they've had trouble scoring in soccer feels like that's not uncommon the teams go through droughts where they just can't get the ball in the back of the net they've outplayed opponents and just haven't haven't scored to win that's not necessarily a coaching failure when your team doesn't finish off you've got good plan everyone's in the right position they just don't score I don't necessarily blame the coach for that so I was a bit surprised now it also comes I don't know if you saw this Casey Stoney went off after her team law or they didn't lose but they 00 tie on Saturday in Houston she absolutely ripped the entire league for the scheduling of having to play three road games in like eight days in three cities wrapping up in Houston where it was like 100 with like 100 percent humidity for her players going no other team has had to do this what we just across the country three east coast you know time zone games this is not fair to my players they they played their heart out yeah they didn't score but I was so proud of them and he said this is unacceptable it's kind of scheduling in the league and then she gets she gets fired a day later boy I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't want to fire a coach for defending their players no I don't think so in in you know perfect world like you said we don't know everything that's going on behind it I didn't see a lot of mixed reaction about this I didn't I saw mostly the support for Casey Stoney and in fact I saw her tweet last night to the sirens who are the support group for the for the wave and she said thank you sirens you're incredible I loved your support for the team from day one today I'm broken but in time I'll be proud of what all what we all achieved together cheer the players loud on Friday that's what they deserve pretty class move by by now former coach Casey Stoney the only coach they had ever had finally this is a bit of a almost like a ai ta am I the a-hole story a woman online said that she filed for divorce from her husband and the reason is what he do well he over tightened every jar in their house what and it got to she hit her breaking point was it like a deterrent for her was she snacking a lot she says uh you know it says I know this doesn't seem like a big deal but every jar in the house is over tightened to the point where he has to be home to open any of them it's so annoying when he's not around I can't get anything done she says she confronted her husband about it many times and it would get better for a little while and then just slowly would become an issue once again if he was not home she would have to regularly like let's say there's a half jar of half full jar of sauce or whatever she would have to go get a new jar because she could at least open that one if he wasn't home and then she says the nail in the coffin was that she discovered that even the jars that he never would have opened right those were over tightened meaning he was doing it on purpose he did over tightening every jar not just a habit he was doing this intentionally she went crazy she said she lost sleep over it she had a breakdown to the point where she vomited and felt like she was having a heart attack so she called it quits I think I'm uh team her on this one that's a weird thing for a guy to go in and start tightening jars was he doing it I mean like did he use the jar and then when he just tightens things he tightens them really ties he just said he would go in and do jars and stuff he wouldn't even use he would just go in and just now was he using just his hands or was it like a mechanic like there's something like you know really getting a good grip on it and turning it he was just going and just tightening it and she said that one time her husband was out of town so she asked the neighbor to come over and even he couldn't do some of these jars what is your secret for opening a jar you can't you smack on the side of it with a spoon this is all the way around a butter knife or something I take the tip of a butter knife and I put it up into the seal and you hear the thing pop up and then you can open it you know that trick you know what I'm talking about you go kind of under the lid under the lid you kind of pry Jimmy it yeah then you kind of damage the top it won't necessarily doesn't damage just it gets the air to shoot that thing up and you can open it pretty easily try that next time you're trying to get into your closings I hate plastics I hate though when you're you get a little you try it and he doesn't open the first time but then you've exerted yourself in our hands get a little sweaty oh yeah it's hard it's harder and harder and now you're looking for like a towel or something to get the grip on the and then once you can't do it you're now you're feeling even worse about it now your wife's watching and like you said you could do it and now you can't do it and it's not a good feeling how about we can't you get we can in the morning weekend is the thing you know you wake up and you're like I gotta open this and you can't there's nothing that can happen you're just like I sorry I can't do this I have we canned right now I get we canned in the morning the woman says that her husband was completely blindsided by her divorce request sure he was he said there were literally no other issues everything's good such life's great everything's you know she says she says she suggested counseling and she refused quote there's just no point I literally can't get past the damned jar lids he still won't even admit that he did it on purpose he's given me no reason that's it done it's a weird one it is weird but maybe you want her side maybe you aren't meant to be if that's gonna you know that's gonna if you're if you're the man and you're overtightening and you're the woman and you want it not tight maybe you guys weren't meant to be it happens i'm sorry about your weekend syndrome it sucks you don't get it i don't think so oh man get it like in the mornings on the weekends what are you opening in the mornings peanut butter yeah something you know anything those are plastic no gatorade i'm like i can't open this anybody i'm sorry you know no chance oh a gatorade yeah like a gatorade plastic gatorade yeah we can't really yeah it'll get you never had trouble with a gatorade it'll get you it'll get you like pasta sauce that pasta sauce that's always the trick you want yep it's tough one pickles the metal top of the glass i don't have like a machine like a can opener no for a jar yeah kind of screwed yep you are especially weak hands you're literally screwed two tights yeah it's too tight screwed it on too tight all right uh good stuff on the rental report today all right we'll come back uh got a big game tonight if you want to uh continue the momentum from last night we'll talk about it next after traffic here at 97.3 the fan congratulations to a jj retic on winning his press conference yesterday as the new head coach the los angeles slakers now i'm glad you said that because i did see a lot of hand ringing yesterday lots of hand ringing from the media over the f-word that he said he did he did use air he did use an f-word during his very proper otherwise news conference i think they asked him about distractions or something misconceptions there any misconceptions that um that you'd like to clear up about you taking this job he was he was a little funny he came in and said i don't know if you've heard this before but i have no nba head coaching experience at all you know he he's obviously a savvy guy he's good on camera that's why he's been working on his bn so i fully expected him to do very well in the press conference if he didn't that would have been such an unbelievably bad sign if jj retic couldn't have even won the press conference then he would have had no hope as an nba head coach it makes no difference at all if you win the opening press conference and he green one is opening press conference yet see jes tingler though did the whole manage games in my mind jes tingler well that was a bad sign that he didn't win the opening press one man but at the very least i knew jj retic would do well getting introduced to the media why do people get so offended by the f-word in the year 20 the year of our lord 2024 they're like man he's a pro he should handle himself that i'm like you don't think coaches say the f-word i have to keep myself from saying the f-word and t-ball practice trust me i i get it they're six but this is a grown man coaching grown men you don't think you know i like people that are real i like people that talk the way they talk i had a guy one time reach out to adam about my salty language and adam goes he goes he would never talk this way at home in front of his kids and adam goes bro that's exactly who he is like on and off the air a hundred percent and i and the guy goes oh well in that case that's pretty cool like what like what do you what are we what are we clutching our pearls well salty can you get on i guess i would say he knows that it's probably being broadcast live and possibly over the air to some places and as a broadcaster you should probably know that there are certain words that we as broadcasters are not supposed to say live on the radio wish we could we get punished like by fines for those words so because i don't i don't give an f it's great by the way it's not some people talk tell real people talk out there in the world be yourself i loved it that was great i'm not a laker fan by any stretch but i was like that's it's a good press conference it was a solid press conference does it help him win one single game no not a one not at all that's the uh the work is still to come for jj redick in in trying to build in an almost impossible situation oh yeah a winner but he said the right things going going for the championship talked about uh you know wanting to give back be a teacher you know help other people become the best players they can be all the things you would expect someone to say in that situation and jj redick did a nice job yesterday no question all right we've got some tickets to give away more san diego legion tickets they are uh a championship contender here they've qualified for the playoffs they are wrapping up the regular season this saturday at snapdragon stadium if you want to check out some rugby in person against the seattle sea wolves uh you can win a pair of tickets right now the third caller at 833 288 097 3 going to get a pair of tickets to see the legion and seattle sea wolves again this saturday it's snapdragon stadium call 833 288 097 3 or get your own tickets at sd legion.com while you call in we'll take our final time out then we'll come back and we can talk about tonight's game continuing uh this series pothraise washington nationals uh trying to you know put together more than just one run at the same time you know that magnet that gets you back to 500 oh man can you escape its grip yeah it's the death for more than a day or two yeah uh a win tonight would at least be a step in the right direction get to that next year at 97 3 the fam a little extra juice benny for tonight's game right mckenzie gore going against uh you know the gm that traded him cj abrams had a big night last night for the nationals he had the he had jessie winker going into the stands last night to yell at a uh of 66 year old man i believe uh who said it was bush league that they went up and ended jerks and pro far you had um the washington nationals broadcast talking about you know uh the pothraise celebration on their own home field after scoring four runs in the tenth like that's something that now with the mlb app you can get baseball your way pick your favorite team your favorite players and get customized highlights stories and breaking news right on your home field follow the action with gametit where 3d replays add another dimension plus notifications can keep you connected to every pinch every hit every game the mlb app baseball your way download it now for free from the app store or google play blackout and other 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purple.com to find the perfect purple for you and enter code podcast 10 to get 10% off a very very spicy one last night at petco park been talking about it all morning we'll continue to talk about it all morning that's what we do here on Ben and wood thanks so much for being here we are halfway home on a Tuesday june 25th and we'll see that's Paul Rindo the executive producer Benjamin R Higgins your friendly neighborhood sports anchor joins us as well i was watching the Stanley cup game seven last night and uh it was an incredible incredible game i i kept it on until the pottery started but they they went to commercial and there was my beloved Ben a little promo for you do you see that yeah i've got the uh me standing in front of petco park you know looking like i'm delivering some sort of sports yeah in essence they told me to stand there and just pretend like you're talking so they could get a good shot of me that's great sports but Ben Higgins i'm like i know that dude look at you and the Stanley cup Stanley cup finals man do you watch something that game i did i watched a ton of that game um it was i had a multiple tv's going i had the college world series going on had a tennessee crown champions for the first time ever the florida panthers crown champions for the first time ever last night winning the Stanley cup um in dramatic fashion so it was a very busy night for me at work yeah it was uh it was busy not at home man it's uh it's things are nuts right now we've got camps for days and it's just nuts like uh summer uber driver dad you know clinic after camp after clinic it's always fun when you book them you're like that's gonna be great there's so many activities for them to do and then you realize they're six and three they can't take themselves so you actually have to go and then sit and and be there in in the scorching heat you're like this is i really i didn't think that we didn't think this through i really like today i'll get out here i gotta go to seals camp and watch bow and bring bow home from seals camp then go to frozen ropes after that for practice wow it's busy busy busy little beaver so uh dad summer uber is uh is in full effect before we move on i want to thank uh bob kendrick again for coming on and and sharing some of his willy mays knowledge and stories with us and and i want to just say because i saw someone pointed out in the chat when i talked about kind of being surprised by reggie jackson's comments obviously i've seen the jackie robinson movies i i know how how ugly it was when when the color line was broken in baseball and baseball was being integrated i didn't expect to hear that story from reggie jackson though i consider reggie jackson like a ballplayer of my childhood like a totally different era like i i know it wasn't perfect but i didn't realize that even players in like as bob said the late 60s going into the 70s were facing such such hatred bro it's 2024 let's not act like that's still and it's it's not i mean you know it's it's definitely i mean that that's like stuff from like a movie it's essentially that the stories that reggie jackson told were incredibly moving and i thought important for people to hear important for me to hear obviously that reminds you that any progress that's made is is always very slow and and very difficult to to get where we want to be one of my biggest regrets that flat tire i got from Wichita for multiple reasons but the flat tire i got driving from Wichita to Kansas city on my way to the negro league museum got a flat tire in the middle and middle of nowhere Kansas and stopped you know for a few hours on the side of the road and i made it in time for the pod raise royals game did not make it in time to go to the negro league museum had to turn around after the game and come straight back to Wichita to fly out the next day one of my biggest regrets man i i don't know what i'm gonna get to Kansas again you know i have no idea so i was really really bummed to miss it i was i was planning a good solid two to three hour visit also a question for a poly during that bob kendrick interview was that like what it's like working with me what woods did to bob multiple times jumping in and trying to interrupt him and ask a question because it was done yeah that's what i do all the time and i don't feel as awkward when i'm doing when you're doing it i was horrified yeah that you know how is that how it feels when i do it it doesn't change in for me so much work who it is it's so much worse when you're not the person doing it yeah i didn't realize that for the last six years now i know i'm like i can put myself in your shoes and how horrifying it is yeah that you know because i was embarrassed you get those guys i mean at least i didn't know at least i didn't ask him about a heart attack he didn't have you know what i mean like that's right but like what kind of moron whatever do you put a percent so bob how's your heart attack that wasn't me was the other guy i he has a cake that people have a cadence and they stop and you're like is he done the uncomfortable silence between questions is all so you want to keep trying to keep it moving but i it's a lot different if they're in studio or even on zoom yeah i missed time the cadence and it happened it was up till midnight thanks to jerks and pro-farts heroics literally up till midnight leg and then going i can't sleep how am i supposed to sleep ambient didn't work i'm just sitting i thought through the ambient i went through it and now how late do you go before you're just like i'm just going in going in early i mean it you know one a m's my cutoff i because i've had like i guess not insomnia but trouble falling asleep i mean if i'm laying in bed from calling nine to like eleven yeah i might switch it up i might go lay on the couch change of scenery maybe that helps and if it's like one a.m i'm like i'm just pulling on all night i'm just gonna go yeah i've you know i've been here at like two thirty in the morning before i mean it just happens all right we have a weird house you know my wife gets up early for to do whatever she does and so i'm up early a lot and i hate it but last night it was nothing other than it was nothing other than just being extremely fired up now i made the mistake of after the walkoff going on twitter x whatever that's the mistake because then i saw jessie winker in the stands essentially screaming at a fan so that got me all fired up then i saw the nationals uh what they said at the end of the game we still have that poly this is after they win the game the national's broadcast we're talking about it and i tell you what Bob the national's dugout is not thrilled with the way the jerks and pro far celebrated that walkoff hit he went right towards the national's dugout and started screaming at them and ill tomorrow Vargas jessie winker kber oeese stood on the warning track as the pajres were celebrating that walkoff jerks and pro far not celebrating by looking at his teammates instead screaming at the nationals dugout for the intentional walk that loaded the bases challenging him in that moment so some trauma yeah so i made the mistake of watching that well then my blood pressure starts to rise and i i get that defensive mode of wanting to defend our guys and and looking at at trying to see it from their side of of the fence and i i couldn't really see it because i had also watched the top of the tent and i watched cj Abrams all night i watched nixon zell you know running around the bases screaming like he had just we hit a walkoff in the world so he's good for you big big hit clutch knock two out home run you got a three run lead bro i fully understood it and i'd imagine anytime cj Abrams comes back and does something against the pot race it's gonna feel extra good for him you know anytime you oh yes face your former organization and have a big game and he was he was fired yesterday he's been playing real well this year so that's what screwed me i need to know on a wall i need to remember we walk it off just put the phone down and go to bed and try to go to sleep then and put a movie on or something but i sat up there stewing all night till about midnight so i was in sleep mode i was gassed i know i couldn't do it man i'm an addict it happens you know you do what you do but i was i was all charged i couldn't wait to get here this morning uh after a win like that but yeah man the the interesting thing is and we'll see if anything spills over into today you know good night's sleep is always good for everyone i mean if you have an argument with your wife or your you know partner whatever your teammate give it 24 hours see what happens right i don't think jessie winker is going to be as pissy today at 640 i don't think mckenzie gore or dating martinez or caybert ries or any of the guys that he just mentioned i don't think jerks and pro far is going to be as fired up today at 640 as he was last night right like 24 hours can do a lot now as we said i we didn't think jerks and pro far really look like he was directing much for the national's dugout now he admitted he felt disrespected he felt disrespected by the wall which is fine which fires him up yeah i mean he takes that as motivation and uses that that's great but i didn't get the sense that he was like legitimately mad at the washington nationals he was probably secretly pretty happy they got that opportunity he's four for four with the bases loaded this year by the way yeah and they'd all be extra base hits if he had bothered to touch second base uh last night as well which he didn't so it ended up being a walk off single instead of a double you know and again you're talking about two teams that are are pretty much neck and neck right now um san diego pottery certainly cannot afford another guy to get injured right i mean wouldn't it be our luck for something to to happen somebody goes out and pulls a hammy or something you know in a in a fight but i will say this man like if they have any issue with that celebration that's pretty tired that's pretty tired if they do you know that's a huge huge moment in a huge situation again the pitch up and then uh to jerks and pro far and knock them down to come through and that at bat was was pretty clutch i don't want to see anybody hurt certainly but i certainly don't want to roll over again for another team if they got a if they have a you know problem today and they want to go out and and dot one of our players i certainly hope that we retaliate and and handle business but you know i don't want to see us do anything you know to start and the other reason why last night's game was so important is that you don't feel as confident about today's match up without a major you know i was i was last week ready for him to go back and get some more work in the minor leaks you were ready for you darvish to come back you were ready for him to go do door dash and now he's back to make a fifth start today against mckenzie gore was been solid for the nationals all year this is a this is a tough match up for the pod race they'll need guys to come through again they'll need some offense in this game i i don't anticipate out of measure going and tossing a you know seven innings of shutout ball today it's just unrealistic based on what we've seen so far so you lose that one now you're putting yourself in position to lose the series uh now you have a chance to steal today's game and you can go for a sweep tomorrow in the homestand finale yeah i mean look tonight's gonna be a tall order uh it really is and when patrick corbin you know holds you to five hits and and derrick law again i feel like derrick law has been pitching since i was in high school when he came out last night i went this guy's still around i had no idea it's just one of those guys that's been hanging around forever he's only 33 years old i looked it up because i thought this man's 46 years old i feel like i'd been i'd seen him forever uh when those guys sit down 19 in a row on you holy cow man like that needs to be addressed that needs to be talked about they certainly don't get a pass for that three runs can not be where you take your foot off the gas against the guy like patrick corbin letting him get in a groove bent and retire however many he did along with the bullpens help it was 19 at one point that that doesn't work we got jesse agler coming up at the bottom of the hour if you'd like to uh contribute an incorporated word you can uh submit it in our youtube stream or via our twitter handle at benon wood so we need a vocabulary word for jesse for tonight's broadcast uh when he joins us it's 8 35 this morning and i want to go through uh we haven't really done so yet the roster moves what they all mean what the pot raise did yesterday because they made a lot of them uh coming up on our next segment but i know you wanted before we want to break uh you had a shout out that you wanted to do here yeah we need to do a shout out to his family saw the news come over this morning that shifty shell did you know if i told you shifty shell shock passed away would you have any earthly idea none none whatsoever that's the first time i've ever heard those two words put together in a sentence now paul do you have the song the song i do okay it what if i played this for you anything it's not ringing any bells yet nothing nothing no thanks y'all no what era are we talking about here i mean was that early 2000s he passed away at 49 years old so he's our age essentially so our era the era of us right but musically was he uh our era okay he's the same age so it was our era it was a musical artist yes he was the uh the singer front man for a band called crazy town i had number one song and it was in 2000 the year 2000 and passed away 49 years old cause of death unknown he had struggled a lot with addiction um in his in his life and career just that you know kind of a one hit wonder band but that song was massive massive massive massive and he passed away you know how we do it here on bed and woods this morning and i really hope we can see more unity and more peace when already things are so difficult so shout out to his family i uh ran into shifty shell shock in los angeles i was actually ran into yet literally was going to see jason isbell play in la and was outside the venue and he walked by walking his dog and i you recognized oh immediately i mean the video you couldn't get away from butterfly you just couldn't get away from it it was everywhere you went come my lady come come my lady and uh and yeah i i didn't roast master said i did not have the cd i just heard the song on the radio like the rest of you there's all your old pal woods and shifty shell shock the streets of los angeles um yeah man it was uh he was a he was a really nice guy super cool um and uh 49 years old is way way too young way way too young so rest in peace shout out to your family shifty i am uh i'm sorry that i still don't really know who you are i can't believe he's never heard that someone doesn't ring any bells not even i mean crazy town the name shifty shell shock that's the song i just must have missed that year i guess they don't play it at sporting venues so you're missing entirely just miss that here i feel like they do that was the main i feel like that was the main song for the san diego strike force oh maybe yeah maybe i feel like burt grossman told us that because he loved that song so he picked it of course he did so great so so great all right we'll uh we'll take a quick time out when we come back go through some of the uh interesting roster moves the pod race made yesterday and then jesse agler will join us at the bottom of the hour for the incorporating i'm all coming up whatever if he was a big crazy town fan my guess is no jesse's like me my guess he'll is a heart over his head yeah all coming up next after traffic here at 97 3 the fan i'll be honest uh yesterday was shaping up is one of the very low points of the 2024 year for the san diego pod race yeah and they ended up losing that game combined with the i mean the pretty bad news they got before the game involving multiple players you would have looked and gone wow this is uh this is a tough one to swallow for the san diego pod race of course we mentioned uh you know frananda tetties jr earlier and uh going on the interd list with the the stress reaction in his right femur that's the biggest bone in your body that's the big big one under your quad there and all your long banana bonesplaining to me bonesplaining yeah all your long frananda tetties jr thought he was dealing with a muscular problem but it turned out it was deeper than that and finally they got the imaging a couple of days ago that showed the stress reaction in that leg and uh tetties spoke after the game and said it's really bothered him since korea and really got bad in the first series at san francisco that first couple of weeks of the season and he's been dealing with it ever since it's a sharp pain uh recently it started to like radiate he feels it throughout his entire body especially when accelerating and decelerating you can kind of run but then when he tries to slow up it just absolutely bites him or when he's trying to speed up it really like the shooting pain comes up through his leg was very hard to deal with and and ultimately the decision was made in order to get it healthy he's gonna have to spend some time not doing all those things that he does when he plays baseball like flying around sprinting around the bases and playing the outfield so no frananda tetties jr and while mike shilt was like well you know it's probably more than 10 days frananda tetties was like no this is uh this is definitely several weeks type recovery certainly through the all-star break and it sounds like even possibly beyond that a little bit if he really wants to get a hundred percent healthy which he will it's something that you will recover from doctors say it's not no long-term concerns he just needs rest and he'll be fine but that rest can be anywhere from six to sometimes up to 14 weeks to get it completely healthy which is uh quite a bit longer than you know you got the indication of when the pot raise first made the announcement yesterday man i i yeah i don't know what to say about it i mean i saw the comments yesterday um it just you know listen it doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like they're everyone's on the same page you know is that safe to say you know it just doesn't seem like they're on the same page i mean i mean messaging wise messaging you know i i assume that mike shilt is the one who sets the page maybe he doesn't explain to frananda tetties hey we don't want you to say you're going to be out for more than a few weeks but but he did but he did so you know i i mean it was it was pretty obvious even with shilts comments that they picked this now knowing they only have what fit 16 more games before the all-star break a number of off days and the all-star break that you know hopefully you miss as few games as possible because you've got you know nine of those days you're not even playing baseball and you can sit through those nine days plus the 16 and get at least four weeks right there with only missing basically you know two and a half weeks worth a game yeah the the the comment he made before the game shilt i mean he said the day before we got the absolute diagnosis he went first to home with some of the most beautiful artistic athletic movements you'll see he looked like tatty he looked like Ben or me running the basis that night remember that the the well he looked bad when he slowed down at the end he looked like he was an agony bro when he goes fast he says he's okay it's it's when he's decelerating or accelerating that it's really the the hard part and he can hit the obviously he was he was on fire at the plate yeah he can hit no problem such a fire it's just the running that is what really causes so when you know mike shilt said he could have pinched hit he can like kirk gibson he could have gone up there he can swing you just don't want him necessarily then having to run around the basis can you do the whole like adult league runner non-runner yeah just have someone sprinting out of the out of the box for him you're looking great you're looking at one no you can't they can't sprint out of the box for you but once you get to the base you can time non-runner you walk around i've seen where they have a line where someone stands there oh you fantasy they do have a fantasy that where you just have someone standing there yeah and as soon as he swings the bat the other person then runs turt to first base yeah they won't they won't do that why did we do that because somebody was injured injury injury yeah you can't do that in the big or we hadn't girl on our team was a paraplegic yeah she had she she had one leg so but she had it and someone else for him yeah can we do that for Fernando Tetis Jr not not allowed it's good for the game though to keep the stars in the game they should consider amending the rules to keep them out there as much as possible i mean i'm i'm here for i'm here for the non-runner rule all day the last out then has to go run for you i'm all about it i think it's great uh but no i it just you know listen no team is completely forthright when it comes to injuries i i've you know kind of gotten used to this again it's one of those things for me and i'm just speaking for myself when i see the injury stuff come out i'm like all right i mean well onward and upward i mean what are you going to do what can i do about there's nothing i can do i i can't even be mad i can't you know lament it i can't point fingers i just go okay next man up you know we're gonna have to figure out a way to win ball games and luckily they were able to last night you wonder how long that luck's gonna hold up though you know and they're gonna miss him at some point bro yeah there's there's a game where other guys won't come through that he would have come through if he had been there that's inevitable anytime you lose you know your best player one of your best players if not your best player yeah it's gonna be uh it's gonna it's gonna sting a little bit but it's not impossible uh you know it's not impossible to go out and win baseball games without them they've done it before they've done it to great success without Fernando Tetis Jr. before it's not something i want to get used to though so uh him him being out potentially past the all-star break that stings a little bit also find out you darvish is not coming back today we talked about that a little bit earlier so Adam Masier is coming back and we'll get another start that was concerning as well of course it was elbow yeah elbow inflammation so we'll we'll see and you know he said he was fine after his last start but obviously this popped up between the rehab start and now so no you darvish today and then uh hosea's ocar was sent down to triple A as well according to mike shilt to get some at bats and work on his game with uh Bryce Johnson who played last night i i know very little about Bryce Johnson uh not he's been in the big leagues before but very limited experience and then eggy is back as well and they're gonna try to work eggy in the outfield a little bit to try to get his bat in line up especially against left-hander since he is one of the guys from the right side of the plate who hits lefty as well something the Padres don't do well i i think you see eggy today certainly against mckenzie gore uh no question about it don't know where he's going to play um d h d h possibly even but but like you know jerks into decent d h candidate as well um there's there's again guys are banged up playing through stuff so and johnny burrito sent down to uh work on becoming a starter and stretching out i think that makes a lot of sense it makes some sense i mean he's not providing a ton of value as the last guy essentially in the bullpen but you need starting depth and if you can provide some of it i think that's a more valuable use for johnny burrito right now all right we'll come back Jesse agler will join us he got to call the walk off last night voice to the Padres the Incorporated all coming up next year with benawoods a 97-3 the fam let's get up and ask Pauli how much time are we left in the brain because he runs out of the bathroom and Paul goes zero he we are literally getting back right now we are coming back now we've got Jesse to talk to got to get an Incorporated to get to if you can't hold it for the entire segment i don't know what to tell you i don't have a choice if you can go right now and we can just uh just vamp until it's time but uh yeah we're back and we're getting ready for Jesse agler he's going to be with us right after a check a traffic here on 97-3 the fam i probably says Jesse's going to call in in just one second here um as a play-by-play guy walk-offs are your chance to have signature moments you know those are the kind of calls that get replayed into the future last year Jesse had almost no chances to do it you're a whole summer long with two walk-offs the entire year that's terrible and now what potters four in the last seven home games yeah they've had a walk-off ending three on home runs three straight on home runs and then of course last night in extra innings there's just been a lot more drama to the baseball season this year last year was shockingly at least positive drama free for the San Diego Padres yeah shockingly shockingly shockingly this year historically almost this year it's been a different story uh for the San Diego Padres and and there has been moments there's been several memorable significant moments uh you know that that if it plays already and we're just barely halfway through the season probably he's working on getting Jesse on the line what's going right now but uh people in the chat he's not going to say hawk to okay like they're like i'll donate money to the peter sidler fun just do that anyway number one he's he's a professional broadcaster he's not going to get on the air tonight and incorporate hawk toa into the into the bronchi we get in trouble i think we have a a great word for him we do but that's not it that's actually two words so yes you're right this is even worse it's two total different words all right uh looks like we've got him now let's go out to Jesse Agler who joins us right now after last night's seven to six ten inning victory over the washington nationals jesse good morning to you good morning guys how are you we're doing well i i know the answer to this question i'm going to ask it anyway when you were in college do you ever pull an all-nighter like studying uh when you were at university of miami not being no no not studying listen to him listen to him not studying what a legend uh that answer was is he coming in okay we got him you see you there yeah oh yeah you cut now you're cutting down a little bit now we're trying to get pulled jesse let me try calling it back in the sesame where is he like joins us from the worst cell phone reception yeah it's fine where the orange county a few weeks ago was bad i don't know it's uh it's bad again today yeah it's all right why did you think that he did you think he had or had not done at all i thought he absolutely had studied like staying up all night writing a paper because why well so because i i feel like everybody pulls one or two i never did one well you didn't know never so when you actually do the work and repair you don't have to do an all-nighter at any point you get rest before the exam you don't have to stay up all night preparing you feel good you go to bed in a reasonable hour that's the way it should be done once i mean i was an english major with four senior level english classes i had 20 page papers do you can't there's not enough time and now i pushed all those to my last year right so i i had a big load and i had to manage class said load and so sometimes you have to stay up all night writing papers what i want to ask him though so you don't even know probably you pulled an all-nighter right all the time all the time all the time do you remember that feeling that you had when you finished your test your final turn in your paper whatever when you're walking back to your apartment in your car and you're like you're in a day like in a day is in a trance that's this team feels like it's on one long all-nighter right now for the last week like they they have their heads have to be spinning you know with with all the uh with all the emotion with all the the grinding that they've done you can't grind that much and not be exhausted and that's what i want to ask Jesse Aguirre about okay i can see your at least um comparison there but you probably you know what i'm talking remember that feeling you're you're see i was a procrastinator i would wait in the last minute and you know like cram you walk outside the sun's blazing you have not slept you turned in your you did your final and you're walking to your car and you're like strangely i feel very alive right now i feel very alive my emotions are at the the the skin you know i can feel my nerves it takes a matter i'll be done at like four a.m. with my paper whatever and i clean the kitchen kitchen deal or work out into whatever i know it's funny because people think that people who don't procrastinate or somehow doing it because they're just very responsible human beings i don't do it because i hate the feeling of feeling like i'm not going to get something done in time it's so stressful when i go down to the last minute i don't ever want to put myself in that situation i want to always know that if worse comes to worse i have those last few hours that i have i have a cushion that i don't need but if i needed it it's there it's always there in reserve so that's why i don't put things off until the last possible second you know what's weird about me is that i'll be two hours early for stuff right which is the the definition of procrastination like psychically early but when it comes to hey i got a paper new i got this test now i need the pressure sometimes to like make me perform see now i i would never want to be two hours early i value efficiency right so much i feel like okay i'm not planning my day very well if i get somewhere two hours in advance we got my whole point of that jesse was asking you you know when you pull an all-nighter if you turn in a paper or you know do uh you know do your final that feeling you had kind of walk into your car where your nerves are exposed and you're like man this is nuts like sleep deprivation i feel like that's what the potteries are going through right now with all this grinding that they're doing to stay one game over 500 it's been pretty remarkable yeah i mean they are a resilient team and i think that's been pretty apparent early on and and look you know a lot of teams say that but i think particularly after last year and kind of the way everything went down and how much they struggled in one run games and extra inning games and all that it was really important to try and establish that early this season and they did that you know i mean they they came out out of the shoe with a couple of really big comebacks in april uh they had the crazy game against the dodgers and soul where everybody was hitting and it just kind of felt you know coming out of that like all right you know this is a different team and i think that was a nice way to sort of you know turn the page from last year because and look as we know every team is different year to year like the reality is last year when it comes to that kind of stuff doesn't matter and you can back that up with a statistical argument you know r asp last year is no bearing on r asp this year so we all kind of thought all right it should be better this year but to sort of like psychologically get over the hump and be able to have the success that they had earlier this season and for i think mike shill to talk about it as much as he's talked about it and make a point about it as much as he's made a point about it really helped you know this 2020 for team say all right last year is last year we're all about the windshield and not the rearview mirror but we also talked earlier about it's kind of a catch 22 that there's nothing you can necessarily do you have to experience some success to build that positive feeling and last year's team just never never got to experience it so of course they never were able to really build some of those feelings and you know you know good vibes going forward because it just didn't happen for them the crazy thing is last year end of the year right they have like their good run you know they win five in a row or whatever at the end of the season they win an extra inning game in san francisco then another one game 162 and all of us myself included kind of wrote that off is like all right well it didn't matter because you know they were essentially all but eliminated for most of that run and they were eliminated for a good chunk of it at the end so it was kind of like you know all right throw it away it doesn't really mean anything and you know i made note in spring training a couple of times that last year this team with jerks and pro far on the roster at the end of the season went 16 and 5 and i kind of said it like tongue in cheek during the spring training broadcasts because like hey that's kind of cool right and there's like a story there but we all know better it couldn't have just been because jerks and pro far showed up that's not why they won 16 out of their last 21 games last year but you know kind of what you're saying there is a different vibe and and it's very hard to say he isn't a huge part of that and look you're absolutely right you have to go out and get the hits you have to get out and do the thing but you know sometimes there are guys you know that make a big difference you know intangible and in intangible ways and it's getting harder and harder to think the jerks and pro far is not one of the best examples of that when it comes to this pottery team in this pottery clubhouse and so i'm loving the attention he's getting nationally i'm loving that he's leading the way and all-star balloting because it is so deserved you know from the wrong number standpoint and what he's produced this year from the way he's sort of battling through this knee situation to obviously the the impact which i think is gigantic that he's had on this team no question about it talking to Jesse Aguirre voice of the pod race you can hear him tonight 97-3 the fan along with Tony Gwen jr i you know another one is Jackson Merrill being 21 years old and and now honestly like he's a leader and we talked about the message that you're hearing coming out of there um you know last year's message was essentially oh don't worry don't worry we'll get there we'll be where we need to be this year's message is don't mess with us we're a bunch of effing ballers they've said it they've called themselves ballers so many times that i'm like this they're act they actually believe this and and when you watch them play yeah man they have those games where you're like oh man who wants to face these guys they're just relentless they don't quit it's pretty apparent that Jackson Merrill is another one of those guys in that clubhouse at 21 first taste of the big leagues and now is you know a regular that people are like should we extend him another 12 years it's it's been pretty remarkable yeah i i don't think there's any reason i've extension talks for a lot of like kind of obvious logistical reasons but he's playing his ass off and he's i'm i can't tell you how much i'm enjoying watching Jackson Merrill like way more than i expected you know just sort of the natural alright he's 20 at the beginning of spring training he turns 21 you know let's not expect too much you know let's hope for the best but i mean he's exceeded every expectation i've had in every way and he is a great kid and he's a dog as you're talking about man he's he's he's up on the top railing of the dugout he's intense and i think that whole thing goes to a conversation about roster construction that sometimes gets a little bit put off to the side usually when we're talking about roster construction we're talking left right we're talking power contact we're talking whatever but like there is something i believe when it comes to roster construction that should involve personality oh yeah and you know kind of having not necessarily just the right mix of guys because that's a little bit difficult but a mix of guys who have different kinds of like edges to them um you know i think everybody understands the way that you know a team will sometimes take on the personality of its leadership and how certain guys will you know follow other guys and that can be good and the person and the situation you know sometimes you need personality a sometimes you need personality b sometimes you need personality y and that's the good thing is you've got different sort of like versions of that in the Padre clubhouse and i'm not suggesting like Jackson Merrill is leading the way at 21 years old but i tell you what the energy that he brings the intensity that he brings the ability that he brings it's all contagious and all that stuff matters and that can get other guys riled up in a good way he has been a critical piece to the success this team has had very similar to profile right with like kind of that you know high energy intensity and attitude you know jerks and always looking to create a chip on his shoulder over something and it helps him he's one of those guys and it is really really fun to watch let me say this about the 20 2014 and i know everybody in town knows this because people have been showing up like crazy not supposed to have 39,000 on a monday against the national okay like it's incredible every single night out there but this is a very watchable baseball team not only because of like the comebacks and the sort of you feel like they're never out of it thing but the energy and the excitement that those guys play with and on top of that like they don't strike out anymore it's remarkable this is a team that struck out like every other team basically a ton you know the last couple of years and it's like all of a sudden the switch got flipped this season they're putting the ball in play they're just a more entertaining team to observe than they've been really i think at any time since i've been here which is saying something because there's been some cool teams but this year's team is so fun to watch and and they're just kind of doing it a little bit differently than so many of the other really good teams top batting average in baseball will leave the league and bunt hits as well and they they hit home run so they can do it in lots of different ways it is entertaining you're absolutely right Jesse you mentioned jerksons uh you know motivation and uh the the near hit by pitch the intentional walk to put him up and he talked about it after the game now do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you were kind of hearing from the washington nationals oh yes yes yes excuse me washington national at the end of the game wow that was an all-timer you okay over there uh we don't know um i haven't quite been the same since our golf term honestly he's dying had you play i do we didn't play at all we didn't we just uh uh change yeah tired chicken hands kissing babies buddy that's nice um congrats good job thank you was our question there yeah does he expect any fireworks tonight oh no fireworks you know i mean like no i mean you never know but i mean mckenzie is fiery you know remember that uh he tried to fight his third baseman in the dugout a couple weeks ago uh he's on the map for the nat so he he definitely has had times and he's admitted to this you know kind of what his emotions uh you know get to him but he's he's a pro like i don't know i mean what are you guys expecting like what am i missing here i actually i don't know i mean the the way the nationals tv broadcasters were describing the reaction from guys like jesse winker or winker and kabert ruis they were really unhappy with jerks in celebration after the game oh i mean i don't know that that you like i think we're at the point in baseball now where you know you get a walk off when you got to expect all kinds of craziness and if the guy gets knocked on his backside you know what is it two pitches before the game winning hit you know he's probably going to be a little bit fired up in that moment um you never know in baseball i don't have a great sense of like how the nats handle stuff we haven't seen them since last summer um so you know maybe that is kind of the way they like to go about business um but i i wouldn't think you know there's a reason for it look that they're a team like the padre's who are you know very much in this you know early season playoff conversation if i'm the washington nationals i'm not trying to get caught up in something like that yeah you know i'm i'm trying to win another game or two here uh because all of these games against these teams that could be in the wild card match really important i remember tie breakers now head to head um so the three games that they're playing here the three games that they'll play in washington after the all-star break you know could be if the nats hang around the playoff picture all summer long you know those could end up being like critically important games for both of these teams so that's my perspective it would be like hey you know worried about trying to win a game not you know being upset that somebody was happy that they won one we got a little behind uh on the technical difficulties so let's get quickly to the incorporated word for today pauly's got it for you here jesse bivolak bivolak you've probably heard that before right oh yeah every day yeah every day every day easy one bivolak is a temporary encampment uh without tense or cover used by usually soldiers or mountaineers a bivolak or yet yeah bivolak you've got a lot of temporary shelters out on a baseball field that should be no problem for you tonight jesse good luck with that i've got i've got one in my head and uh yeah we'll see what we can do all right thanks for listening tonight uh six forty first pitch with toning win jr five forty eco water so cal pre-game show thank you jesse i guess jesse actin now we got them nice and clear by the end there let's uh let's remember whatever that took to get him sounding that good in our uh in our incorporated segment what happened to you i have no idea can we no idea i felt like i had some nut skin but i haven't eaten any nuts in my throat rattle report coming up thank you i can't help but thinking that if i was a fan of the colorado rockeys i might be a little perturbed by jerks and profarts 2024 season yeah i can sign you know about eight million bucks as a free agent in colorado last year where he proceeded to at least buy war be perhaps the least productive player in all of baseball last year and now he comes back to the sandy gopot raise it you know an eighth the price and proceeds to be the best outfielder in the entire national league this year i mean the guy is born born to play in san diego i hate that he even left i i do you know when we're sitting around lamenting things and i try not to i do often think about what last year would have been like had he been here you know because again you talk about the jesse just talked about the way they ended the season you know when they got him back what if he had started in spring training with these guys what could have happened it goes to show you those as jesse was kind of talking about that chemistry is not simply a matter of getting it good ball players with good attitudes all in the same room it has to mix well together because jerks and profar had zero effect on the rockeys last year none whatsoever i mean it's the same guy i'm sure he came with his same passion and you know smiles and and fiery attitude but mixed with that team it did nothing somehow mixed though with this pot raise team mixed with the specific personalities of franando tetties jr and manny machado and the guys in this clubhouse it seems to be like magic waters for the san diego pot raise and not even for jerks and profar too right for jerks and profar it's it's there's something about here that he he loves playing here this is his you know how they always say well you know certain guys are made for new york or boston or philly jerks it's made for san diego that's he is a fit here in sanio he was he was a good player uh in in his other stops but when he's here he plays differently and in sometimes it's not even good players who end up being that guy or a alfaro it's not a good player no wasn't even really a good player in 2022 he just kept kept coming up with huge moments remember he was he was such not a good player that they wouldn't even use him once in the postseason ever austin nola out there he's like i'm catching again it's not really it's not like they were putting johnny bench back there every single day well we just can't get you into the game where alfaro i i it was austin nola that they were using every single day because they had so little confidence in in hoorale far i need to do anything pitch in nothing nothing there were times i'm like just use it now i don't care if you hate him he's on the postseason roster what the hell happened yet his magic was an undeniable part of that 2022 and and part of the reason why you got there you know why you got as far as you did was hoorhale far oh and and i i wonder had nola pulled a quad what would they have done crony back there by the dish like what in the world was that all about we could look back at it and laugh now but it was really really weird but yeah man the you never know when you're gonna you never know when you're gonna hit on one right and and with jerks and pro-for coming back couldn't be happier for the you know now that you think about it bob had bob melvin had twice he had he had alfaro in the playoffs they had carpenter for a month where he just refused to use a player on his roster yeah if that wasn't a sign that there was maybe a disconnect between aj proller and bob melvin hey aj i'm giving you this player bob's you know i'm not using i'm not using i'm not using not playing you get to say you get to pick the roster but i get to set the lineup and he's not going to be in my lineup every single day it was uh he's a mat carpenter healthy available yeah yeah he's able to go off the bench but he just rotted he rotted here for a month it was crazy so yeah who knows what that stemmed from you have your ideas you have your theories about what went what went on there and alfaro is the story that i've heard a thousand rumors but i don't know any of them to be true i think of the scene in money ball where uh he wants to keep playing who is it jeremy giambi at first base or no is carlos carlos paenia at first base yeah carlos paenia is not playing first base for you why because i just traded him just straight you can't play let's do it back as i am also traded giambi you're killing this team jeremy's gone too and jeremy's gone too you've got control of the lineup but i've got control over the roster just trade all the guys that you want to play and then i don't want in there all right uh let's uh get some other headlines it is time for today's riddle report and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the riddle report now tuned into the month greatest welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to bless the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a whole year oh yeah all right all right all right all right before i get started do you want to do you want to hear Ben again i mean i've been waiting for it more than anything he tried to right yeah he tried to vamp just jump right in maybe i was trying to profile right brother we got plenty of time to play that we have 55 minutes how is my problem there's always more time to fill if you missed my mistakes this was uh about 15 minutes ago with Jesse Aguiler on the zoom hotline do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you were kind of hearing from the washington nationals oh yes yes excuse me washington nationals yes i need to plow through to without excuse me just like you were kind of hearing from the washington nationals not quite it was good can't you remarral us for the home one you want to kind of hear him from the washington nationals excuse me i want the way that wasn't and the angels batting order angels batting order just excuse me wore out the uh we're at socks fishing staff there's nothing better there's nothing better than that nothing nothing makes me happier than that in the world but my kid my kid can get a home run i think that's better to nationals like you slow it down kington nationals kington nationals this is amazing i'm crying tears of my eyes right now you did your own hawk tour that's what that was that i don't want to feel better now kington nationals yeah i i felt fine three seconds before it happened it was instantaneous she's a national there you feel it usually usually like for 10 seconds you can go uh oh here it comes right there it's instantly back in my throat he was there there's nothing i can do about it that's so good you're like i gotta get through this question right now holy crap that's so good save that forever kington nationals how do you put that on a t-shirt that's what i want to know we gotta find a way all right let's uh let's dive into it gentlemen we'll start off uh in the world of hockey the 2023 2024 NHL season came to an end last night game seven of the Stanley Cup finals florida and edmondson edmondson with all the momentum climbing down from their o3 deficit forcing a game seven but florida had just enough to get by uh they won two to one last night watched pretty much all the game i watched the whole first period and then i switched over had that game muted with the potteries game on the mainstream but uh yeah two to one florida a pretty good game man overall i i didn't see a whole lot of the rest of the series i don't want to tell you it was chippy close games or anything like that but uh last night's game was great and then i firmly believe the Stanley Cup the tradition that goes along with the Stanley Cup i watched the elite the trophy ceremony at the end how every guy gets to hold it and do a lap around the ice and kiss it and then they pass it on to their teammate and the team just sits there and watches every single guy get their moment i thought it was awesome uh here's how it sounded on local radio in florida the final seconds 10 seconds left to what pithers a dream 30 years in the back is real the florida pithers have won the Stanley Cup one Stanley is coming home you always will have a place in some florida oh my god the pithers have won the Stanley Cup for the first time oh my god start the celebration self-florida the pithers have done it Stanley Cup champions this is a drunk fan just walking to the moon grab a mic grab the mic it's the woods of the crew there holy cow exactly how i imagine tony win jr acting when dragler finally makes that call yes the Stanley Cup is coming home to sunrise florida where it's always below yes where it's always going 30 years the kids grew up on the frozen ponds of south florida dreaming of a Stanley Cup title have won the Stanley Cup for the first time it's incredible incredible it's a great game yeah Conor McDavid though he's gonna be seeing his missed opportunity in his dream oh god right i mean that missed opportunity but he was acknowledged as the best player man in a very uh in a very rare situation Conor McDavid when the consmive trophy is the most valuable player despite the fact that he was on the losing team yeah now it's for the entire post-season so the argument was definitely there that that Conor McDavid was the best player in the NHL playoffs but we we live now in such a you know it's all about the winning team sports mentality that it's becoming much harder to justify giving a player on a losing team the most valuable player award how valuable could you have been if your team didn't actually win the title isn't someone on the winning team more valuable because their team got the whole way yeah and you know he didn't come out to get it which i totally understand i totally understand that i don't yeah on the road in front of the other fans i noticed yeah i just lost and you know we just battled back yeah man i i've i've no problem with that whatsoever there's only been one Super Bowl MVP from a losing team dallas cowboys linebacker Chuck howley intercepted two passes and recovered a fumble in a 16 13 loss to the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl 5 my aunt Brenda dated his son really scott i went to scott howley yeah pretty cool Super Bowl MVP one time in the NBA Jerry West they talked about it in winning time 1971 NBA Finals MVP despite a 4-3 loss to the Boston Celtics that year and it's never happened oh it happened once in baseball too Bobby Richardson in the World Series in 1960 hit 367 for the Yankees with 12 runs batted in including a grand slam but Yankees lost in seven to the Pittsburgh Pirates so it does happen very rarely but mostly way back in the past not modern day sports where the losing player gets the MVP award that's it for the hockey season uh the new season begins actually this weekend with the NHL draft no lag there and uh i saw this was pretty cool i might actually need to tune in and just see what it looks like they're gonna host the NHL draft from the sphere in Las Vegas great move great move amazing that's gonna look super cool rarely does the NHL outshine like the NBA or NFL in such things but how the NFL didn't come up with that already no damn it no idea how they missed that opportunity all right uh we'll switch over to some local sports news i would say pretty surprising news i thought the San Diego Wave announced that they have parted ways with head coach Casey stoney club made the announcement yesterday paul buckle is going to serve as the interim head coach they issued a statement they said we are immensely grateful to Casey for her commitment to our club and the positive impact she has had both on and off the pitch that was from Jill Ellis over the past seasons Casey has guided us to significant milestones and her contributions have been instrumental in laying a strong foundation on which to build the decision to part ways was very hard and not made in haste but given the ambition of this club and where we are in our season we felt the change was necessary at this time so obviously we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes but certainly from the surface level last year they had the best record in the nwsl although they lost in the semifinals in the playoffs this year they're near the bottom of the standings but they've dealt with a ton of injuries Alex Morgan and other players have missed several games they've had trouble scoring in soccer feels like that's not uncommon the teams go through droughts where they just can't get the ball in the back of the net they've outplayed opponents and just haven't haven't scored to win that's not necessarily a coaching failure when your team doesn't finish off you've got good plan everyone's in the right position they just don't score i don't necessarily blame the coach for that so i was a bit surprised no it also comes i don't know if you saw this casey stoney went off uh after her team law or they didn't lose but they zero zero tie on saturday in kouston she absolutely ripped the entire league for the scheduling of having to play three road games in like eight days in three cities wrapping up in kouston where it was like a hundred with like a hundred percent humidity for her players going no other team has had to do this what we just across the country three east coast you know time zone games this is not fair to my players they they played their heart out yeah they didn't score but i i was so proud of them and he said this is unacceptable it's kind of scheduling in the league and then she gets she gets fired a day later boy i mean you wouldn't you wouldn't want to fire a coach for defending their players no i don't think so and in in you know perfect world like you said we don't know everything that's going on behind it i didn't see a lot of mixed reaction about this i didn't i saw mostly the support for casey stoney and in fact i saw her tweet last night to the sirens who are the support group for the for the wave and she said thank you sirens you're incredible i loved your support for the team from day one today i'm broken but in time i'll be proud of what all what we all achieved together cheer the players loud on friday that's what they deserve pretty class move by by now former coach casey stoney the only coach they had ever had finally uh this is a bit of a almost like a ai t-a am i the a-hole story a woman online said that she filed for divorce from her husband and the reason is what do you do well he over tightened every jar in their house hold on and it got to she hit her breaking point was it like a deterrent for her was she snacking a lot she says uh you know it says i know this doesn't seem like a big deal but every jar in the house is over tightened to the point where he has to be home to open any of them it's so annoying when he's not around i can't get anything done she says she confronted her husband about it many times and it would get better for a little while and then just slowly would become an issue once again if he was not home she would have to regularly like let's say there's a half jar of half full jar of sauce or whatever she would have to go get a new jar because she could at least open that one if he wasn't home and then she says the nail in the coffin was that she discovered that even the jars that he never would have opened right those were over tightened meaning he was doing it on purpose he did over tightening every jar not just a habit he was doing this intentionally she went crazy she said she lost sleep over it she had a breakdown to the point where she vomited and felt like she was having a heart attack so she called it quits i think i'm uh team her on this one that's a weird thing for a guy to go in and start tightening jars was he doing it i mean like did he use the jar and then when he just tightens things he tightens them really tight as he just said he would go in and do jars and stuff he wouldn't even use he would just go in and just now was he using just his hands or was it like mechanically there's something like you know really getting a good grip on it and turning it was just going and just tightening it and she said that one time her husband was out of town so she asked the neighbor to come over and even he couldn't do some of these jars what is your secret for opening a jar you can't you smack on the side of it with a spoon this is all the way around the butt of a butter knife or something i take the death tip of a butter knife and i put it up into the seal and i and you hear the thing pop up and then you can open it you know that trick you know what i'm talking about you go kind of under the the lid the lid you kind of pride jimmy it yeah then you kind of damage the top it won't necessarily doesn't damage just it gets the air to shoot that thing up and you can open it pretty easily try that next time you're trying to get into your closings i hate vlasix i hate though when you're you get a little you try it and he doesn't open the first time but then you've exerted yourself in your hands get a little sweaty oh yeah it's hard it's harder and harder and now you're looking for like a towel or something to get the grip on the and then once you can't do it you're now you're feeling even worse about it now your wife's watching and like you said you could do it and now you can't do it and it's not a good feeling how about we can't you get we can in the morning we can't is the thing you know you wake up and you're like i gotta open this and you can't there's nothing that can happen you're just like i i sorry i can't do this i have we can right now i get we can in the morning the woman says that her husband was completely blindsided by her divorce request sure he was he said there were literally no other issues uh everything's good such life's great everything's you know she says she says he suggested counseling and she refused quote there's just no point i literally can't get past the damned jar lids he still won't even admit that he did it on purpose he's given me no reason that's it done it's a weird one it is weird but maybe you want her side maybe you weren't meant to be if that's gonna you know that's gonna if you're if you're the man and you're overtightening and you're the woman and you want it not tied maybe you guys weren't meant to be it happens i'm sorry about your weak hand syndrome it sucks you don't get it i don't think so oh man get it like in the mornings on the weekends what are you opening in the mornings unit butter yeah something you know anything those are plastic no gatorade i'm like i can't open this anybody i'm sorry you know no chance oh a gatorade yeah like a gatorade plastic gatorade yeah we can really yeah it'll get you never have trouble with it it'll get you it'll get you like pasta sauce that that's always the trick you want yep it's tough one pickles the metal the metal top of the glass i don't have like a machine like a can opener no for for a jar yeah kind of screwed yep you are especially weak hands you're literally screwed two tights yeah two tights screwed it on two tights all right uh good stuff on the rattle report today all right we'll come back uh got a big game tonight if you want to uh continue the momentum from last night we'll talk about it next after traffic here at 97-3 the fam congratulations to a jj retic on winning his press conference yesterday as the new head coach at the los angeles slakers now i'm glad you said that because i did see a lot of hand-ringing yesterday lots of hand-ringing from the media over the f-word that he said he did he did use airy he did use an f-word during his very proper otherwise news conference i think they asked him about distractions or something misconception misconceptions that um that you'd like to clear up about you taking this job he was it was it was a little funny he came in and said i don't know if you've heard this before but i have no nva head coaching experience at all you know he he's obviously a savvy guy he's good on camera that's why he's been working on his bn so i fully expected him to do very well in the press conference if he didn't that would have been such an unbelievably bad sign if jj retic couldn't have even won the press conference then he would have had no hope as an nba head coach it makes no difference at all if you win the opening press conference and he green one is opening press conference sketchy jj's tingler though did the whole manage games and jj's tingler well that was a bad sign that he didn't win the opening but at the very least i knew jj retic would do well getting introduced to the media why do people get so offended by the f-word in the year 20 the year of our lord 2024 they're like man he's a pro he should handle himself that i'm like you don't think coaches say the f-word i have to keep myself from saying the f-word and t-ball practice trust me i get it they're six but this is a grown man coaching grown men you don't think you know i like people that are real i like people that talk the way they talk i had a guy one time reach out to adam about my salty language and adam goes he goes he would never talk this way at home in front of his kids and adam goes bro that's exactly who he is like on and off the air 100% and i and the guy goes oh well in that case that's pretty cool like what like what do you what do we what are we clutching our pearls well salty can you get on the radio i guess i would say he knows that it's probably being broadcast live and possibly over the air to some places and as a broadcast you should probably know that there are certain words that we as broadcasters are not supposed to say live on the radio wish we could we get punished like by fines for those words so he goes i don't i don't give an f it's great by the way so some people talk tell real people talk out there in the world be be yourself i loved it that was great i'm not a laker fan by any stretch but i was like that's it's a good press conference what's a solid press conference does it help him win one single game no not a one not at all that's the uh the work is still to come for jj retic in trying to build in an almost impossible situation oh yeah a winner but he said the right things going going for the championship talked about uh you know wanting to give back be a teacher you know help other people become the best players they can be all the things you would expect someone to say in that situation and jj retic did a nice job yesterday no question all right we've got some tickets to give away more san diego legion tickets they are uh a championship contender here they've qualified for the playoffs they are wrapping up the regular season this saturday at snapdragon stadium if you want to check out some rugby in person against the seattle sea wolves uh you can win a pair of tickets right now the third caller at 833 288 097 3 going to get a pair of tickets to see the legion and seattle sea wolves again this saturday it's snapdragon stadium call 833 288 097 3 or get your own tickets at sd legion dot com while you call in we'll take our final time out then we'll come back and we can talk about tonight's game continuing uh this series pot raise washington nationals uh trying to you know put together more than just one run at the same time you know that magnet that gets you back to 500 can you escape its grip yeah it's for more than a day or two yeah a win tonight would at least be a step in the right direction get to that next year at 97 3 the fam a little extra juice benny for tonight's game right mckenzie gore going against uh you know the gm that traded him cj abraham's had a big night last night for the nationals we had the he had jesse winker going into the stands last night to yell at a uh of 66 year old man i believe uh who said it was bush league that they went up and ended jerks and pro far you had um the washington nationals broadcast talking about you know uh the pot raise celebration on their own home field after scoring four runs in the tenth like that's something that happens every single night uh so yeah man a little extra juice tonight out of peck up part any uh fireworks i've been thinking about a lot this morning and i you know like we know we know mckenzie gore a little bit he's a he's a salty dude what was the story you mentioned it i like you said to fight his own yeah nixon's l third baseman so great what happened grounder to third i don't remember the inning the situation grounder the third since l i think he does backhands it and he stops and he just kind of lollipops one over the first and it had an arc you know just and and the guy was safe he beat it out so after they got in the dugout mckenzie gore said something to him like hey dude what's why are you half-assing that throw and since l was like i don't want to hear it from you you work every five days you know i don't want to hear a still word from you and they got after it in the dugout and they had to be separated so those kind of things happen uh in the during the course of a long-ass season i'm sure it seems like a sign of uh potential you know or rift in the clubhouse bad things but the nationals at least until yesterday when the hottest teams in baseball they went 11 of their previous 15 games coming into this series a lot of times those things are good for clubhouse um you know you kind of get it all out you know you air it out and nixon's l probably got mad because yeah he did lollipop your pictures out there fighting for his life and you're half-assing a throw from third base and a guy beats it out and yeah man you it's probably a good thing inherently nixon's l won't do that again you know he's not gonna he's not gonna half-ass a throw over there so um i just think you know mckenzie gore is a really fiery competitor you know that he's tough kid we all like mckenzie gore i i don't think he's gonna i think he wants for him i'm gonna put myself in his shoes not that i'd ever be but for me and for you guys what would you want to do wouldn't you want to go out and shove for seven shutout innings that's what i would want to do not go out and dot jerks and pro far for being excited about hitting a a walk off you know rulebook double yeah that's what i would want to do is the starting picture but we don't know the temperature of the clubhouse and the guys from last night and maybe carries i mean i don't know i would hope that cooler heads prevail yeah 24 hours later it's fine but if your teammates are all still pissed off like really angry and expecting something i think you got to do what you got to do i just think i think for him but i'm not i'm not like advocating no i i think if you're him yeah you want to you want to go out and dominate on the mount that's that's the ultimate revenge and if you're at a hundred pitches and then you throw one go ahead i think we've we've expected a few times some fireworks and and they haven't ever materialized so i'm not gonna not gonna expect anything to happen in the game yeah it's probably the closest we've been to a donny brook or a brew haha uh this year certainly what if Adrian mori hone said anything to jake croneworth about his throw in the setting man right three hopper to first base ended up costing the pod raise the uh the run that tied the game and ended up forcing extra innings yeah you want to in listen neither someone needs to talk to jake neither crony or husson kim were charged with errors no on those but i think they probably should have been and i think both of those guys would tell you yeah i need to do better uh on that so you want to make sure you play clean today you're up against it if you're the san diego potteries let's not sure code anything you're up against it you got out of major on the mount he has been he's been he's been pretty wild you know the the command has not necessarily been there the stuff really hasn't looked superb uh at all but listen you got thrown into this you're you're you're in a pinch and uh you need him to go out and give you everything he has um don't know how well rested the bull pen is uh after last night either so hey man it it's a recipe for disaster but i've said that before but proven wrong at least if you're gonna use all your top guys emerge with a victory that that game could have been pretty disastrous use all your topper levers have your best pitching match up of the series and end up with a loss at the end of the day could have been really really ugly i'm curious to see what the outfield is going to look like going forward on a day-to-day basis without Fernando Tati's jr for the next probably at least month maybe longer i i don't get the sense that Bryce Johnson is your everyday option he got the the opportunity yesterday mike shilt talked about tyler way getting some at bats in the outfield eggy rizario may at some point start getting some at bats in the outfield gotta be today i would imagine well he might get some at bats i don't know if they're ready to put him in the outfield i mean he's an infielder by trade so he's played a little dis some but they said they want to work with him a little bit okay maybe they'll throw him into the fire and just just get him out there to to get his bat into the lineup uh you know you put peralta out there but he's not not a plus defender at this point so you have some options but what what are the best ways to go forward and do you consider making a a move at any point yeah i mean we're always i think they're always looking to make moves i just don't know how splashy they're going to be right now and you know i did see some sentiment uh online of well now the tati's is out time to kind of not fold up the tense you know so to speak but i'm more concerned about darvish and muskrow right and if aj can like can even wait until closer to the direct trade deadline or if he has to go move make a move and get a picture sooner rather than late i just again you know starting pitchers you're not really growing on trees right now they're just not there's a couple teams that would probably be willing to deal but it's gonna cost the capital that you have i mean but do you have do you don't want to trade salis or debris and and so i just i don't know what you want to do well we've heard about garrick crocheted i got another name for you that was brought up this morning by espn's jeff parson i'll get to that right after this check traffic a 97 through the fam so this morning uh espn's baseball insider dropped a little column basically going through each playoff contender and who would be the the top trade deadline addition for each team like realistic addition that they could go after now obviously some of these names require their teams decide that they're ready to trade players as opposed to acquire and that specifically is true with the name that jeff parson came up for your san diego padre so he said best match weakness starting pitching best match louise severino padre's are pot committed and they are a starter okay maybe two away from taking control of one of the inl wild card slots severino fits almost all of their needs been very good with the 3.290 array over 90 and a third innings and 15 starts for the Mets his slider is a true out pitch a lead in shape and outcome and with san diego's budgetary concerns he would be coming from an organization that just last year was willing to eat tens of millions of dollars when the Mets traded starters justin verlander and max shurzer the udarvis suffering a setback in his attempt to return from the intrad list dylan c smichael king and matt walter the only three reliable starters and san diego's rotation getting severino with strength in the pottery starting group and a lot of general manager aj preller to hold on to his top hitting prospects catcher ethan sallis and short stop leo de vries who are the sort of return chicago would seek if preller went whale hunting and tried to land crochet what's he cost i mean it's you know great for what i mean he doesn't think it's one of the top guys probably a lesco and or a snelling especially if you're going to ask them to eat money it's just hard on the deal and you would be asking them to eat money it's just hard because you know you're one game over 500 you know the nl is a little bit suspect right now but you also don't want to give the appearance that you're packing it in and bringing up you know no offense to them brother Bryce johnson's of the world the atom measures of the world it's that's not sustainable that they're not going to make some sort of miraculous run with with that with those guys being your death thing so yeah but you know if you're you're probably still counting on the fact that tatisse and bo guards are going to be back and hopefully healthy at some point good pitching can get you through a period of time during the season even when you're hitting is down because good pitching beats good hitting and you still have you can win three to two games with good pitching you still have but if you're giving up five or six runs consistently toast you don't have the offense to overcome that right now consistently but good pitching would would go a long way I think you can some maybe you solve your tatisse problem by going after more pitching and going after a little bit sooner it's like michael says the metrics are of game and a half out you know why are they in like jeff pass and he didn't qualify and then didn't mention the qualifier when do they decide that they're ready to move if there's no reason to move louis savorino right now then there's no reason you keep them and and try to make a run yourself so I mean again they're in new york of course of course steve coen can't for two years in a row be like that's it for us I know it's end of june but we're gonna well I know we have six weeks left till the trading deadline we're done we're probably not gonna make a run I know we you know we spend a ton of money I think there's still number one in payroll yeah we're which which is does insulate co-in from some criticism even if they aren't going after you can't say well why does this owner spend any money on the team we're spending the most money on his team the last two seasons maybe not effectively definitely not effectively but that's more of your baseball operations issue than the ownership issue yeah and you know with the new gm in place there he's going to be able to do his thing we'll see we'll we'll see what kind of what kind of move that is I think it is and buyers at the deadline we've seen that before if you feel like you're trading from a position of of power and depth and if the Mets feel that way be happy to take louis savorino off your hands could use them could use them tonight you know on the bump so I don't know it remains a very interesting landscape in major league baseball right now because of the extra wild card because a lot of teams at least want to give the appearance bed though no we're we're still in this thing and and again it's a fun it's a needle you have to thread if you're a gm isn't it like where you have to say I'd really love to improve our team for the future but I can't give the appearance that we're packing it in for this year because then people won't buy tickets they're not going to trust that I have the best interest in mind I mean aj proller has got he's got his work cut out for him again but again it this is all of his own it's all of his own doing so I think if you're the San Diego Padres and you see what 39,000 people against the nationals on a Monday night you have no choice you have no choice and again you can still improve your team hanging onto your top two guys if those are the only untouchable guys you can improve your team bar none it's never a bad idea to make a smart deal never whether it's always a good idea whether it's one that's aimed toward the future or the present you want every deal to be a smart valued deal for your franchise you don't want to give up too much if you're acquiring a player and you want to get as much back if you're willing to deal a player so make the smart deals that are out there you know Dan says in the chat you must grow if Tatise X come back no trades needed if you told me Joe Musgrove had a strained calf and you Darvish had a tight quad blister and yeah Tatise had a you know minor ankle sprain and and Zander Bogart's had a forearm strain yes Dan I think you are absolutely right it's possible Zander Bogart's is the first one back out of it yeah absolutely not good I do feel like oh and by the way as as I need money says this bullpen needs an arm you know as well or three or three or two you know and and so you could improve your depth in other spots as well like it's just they need a lot but Tatise and Bogart's I'm pretty confident will be back healthy at some point this season I don't know how soon it will be but before the end of the season both guys will be healthy will they be producing that again that's a mystery that's baseball but those guys will be healthy I can't say that about Joe and I'm not even sure I can say that about you Darvish at this point just too much is unknown so pitching to me is still the number one area of need for Joe said yesterday before the game that he's started like the very initial stages of throwing on a field I mean he could be weeks weeks away yeah and there's just so much unknown I just it's just a weird we are one of those teams and there's a bunch of us we are one of those weird positions where you can't turn your you can't start selling guys in my opinion I mean you can't I mean what what's the what's the fan base gonna do if you're like well we could move us on Kim and Dylan Sees and I mean could you get some really nice pieces in return the answer to that question is yes on paper maybe you don't know what if someone wants to overpay I listen I do listen doesn't mean you're waving the white flag necessarily because you can make another move and get someone else yes and that we've seen that move so you have to let you have to listen in this kind of market when there's so many buyers the season would be strange there would have to be a lot of things happening behind the scenes that'd be tough we'll see see what happens overnight that's that's it for tonight we'll be back tomorrow that's it for today we'll be back tomorrow day baseball in the morning yes but we'll be back in the morning to wrap up tonight's game and you know do the discussion 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for the entire segment i don't know what to tell you i don't have a choice you can go right now and we can just uh just vamp until it's time but uh yeah we're we're back and we're getting ready for Jesse Aguiler he's going to be with us right after a check a traffic here on 97 3 the fam i probably says Jesse's going to call in in just one second here um as a play-by-play guy walk-offs are your chance to have signature moments you know those are the kind of calls that get replayed into the future last year Jesse had almost no chances to do it you're a whole summer long with two walk-offs the entire year and now potters four in the last seven home games yeah they've had a walk-off ending three on home runs three straight on home runs and then of course last night and extra innings there's just been a lot more drama to the baseball season this year last year was shockingly at least positive drama free for the San Diego Padres yeah shockingly shockingly this year historically almost this year it's been a different story for the San Diego Padres and and there has been moments there's been several memorable significant moments uh you know that that if it plays already and we're just barely halfway through the season probably working on getting Jesse on the line what's going right now but uh people in the chat he's not going to say hawk to okay like they're like i'll donate money to the peter sidler fund just do that anyway number one he's he's a professional broadcaster he's not going to get on the air tonight and incorporate hawk toa into the into the bronchi we get in trouble i think we have a a great word for him we do but that's not it that's actually two words so yes you're right this is even worth it's a three total different words all right uh it looks like we've got him now let's go out to Jesse Adler who joins us right now after last night's seven to six ten inning victory over the Washington Nationals Jesse good morning to you good morning guys how are you we're doing well i know the answer to this question i'm going to ask it anyway when you were in college do you ever pull an all-nighter like studying uh when you were at university of miami not being no no not studying listen to him listen to him not studying what a legend uh that answer was is he coming in okay we got him you see there yeah oh yeah you cut now you're cutting out now it's not working again Paul Jesse let me let me let me try calling you back in the Jesse where is he like joins us from the worst cell phone reception yeah it's fine well the orange county a few weeks ago was bad now it's uh it's bad again today yeah it's all right why did you think they'd eat did you think he had or had not done at all i thought he absolutely had studied like staying up all night writing a paper because why well so because i feel like everybody pulls one or two i never did one well you didn't know never so when you actually do the work in a pair you don't have to do an all-nighter at any point if you get rest before the exam you don't have to stay up all night preparing you feel good you go to bed in a reasonable hour that's the way it should be done once i mean i was an english major with four senior level english classes i had 20 page papers do you can't there's not enough time now i pushed all those to my last year right so i i had a a big load and i had to manage class said load uh and so sometimes you have to stay up all night writing papers what i want to ask him though so you don't even know it probably you pulled an all-nighter right all the time all the time do you remember that feeling that you had when you finished your test your final turn to your paper whatever when you're walking back to your apartment in your car and you're like you're in a day like in a days in a trance that's this team feels like it's on one long all-nighter right now for the last week like they they have their heads have to be spinning you know with with all the uh with all the emotion with all the the grinding that they've done you can't grind that much and not be exhausted and that's what i want to ask Jesse angler about okay i can see your at least um comparison there but you probably you know what i'm talking remember that feeling your you're you see i was a procrastinator i would wait in the last minute and you know like cram you walk outside the sun's blazing you have not slept you turned in your you did your final and you're walking to your car and you're like strangely i feel very alive right now i feel very alive my emotions are at the the the skin you know i can feel my nerves matter i'll be done at like four a.m with my paper whatever and i clean the kitchen do a little workout in do whatever i know it's funny because people think that people who don't procrastinate or somehow doing it because they're just very responsible human beings i don't do it because i hate the feeling of feeling like i'm not going to get something done in time it's so stressful when i go down to the last minute i don't ever want to put myself in that situation i want to always know that if worse comes to worse i have those last few hours that i have a cushion that i don't need but if i needed it it's there it's always there in reserve so that's why i don't put things off until the last possible second you know what's weird about me is that i'll be two hours early for stuff right which is the the definition of procrastination like psychotically early but when it comes to hey i got a paper do or i got this test now i need the pressure sometimes to like make me perform see now i i would never want to be two hours early i value efficiency right so much and i feel like okay i'm not planning my day very well if i get somewhere two hours in advance we got my whole point of that jesse was asking you you know when you pull it all night or if you turn in a paper or you know do uh you know do your final that feeling you had kind of walk into your car where your nerves are exposed and you're like man this is nuts like sleep deprivation i feel like that's what the potteries are going through right now with all this grinding that they're doing to stay one game over five hundred it's been pretty remarkable yeah i mean they are a resilient team and i think that's been pretty apparent early on and and look you know a lot of teams say that but i think particularly after last year and kind of the way everything went down and how much they struggled in one run games and extra inning games and all that it was really important to try and establish that early this season and they did that you know i mean they they came out out of the shoe with a couple of really big comebacks in april uh they had the crazy game against the dodgers and soul where everybody was hitting and it just kind of felt you know coming out of that like all right you know this is a different team and i think it was a nice way to sort of you know turn the page from last year because and look as we know every team is different year to year like the reality is last year when it comes to that kind of stuff doesn't matter and you can back that up with a statistical argument you know r asp last year is no bearing on r asp this year so we all kind of thought all right it should be better this year but to sort of like psychologically get over the hump and be able to have the success that they had earlier this season and for i think my chill to talk about it as much as he's talked about it and to make a point about it as much as he's made a point about it really helped you know this 2020 for team say all right last year is last year we're all about the windshield and not the rearview mirror but we also talked earlier about it's kind of a catch 22 that there's nothing you can necessarily do you have to experience some success to build that positive feeling and last year's team just never never got to experience it so of course they never were able to really build some of those feelings and you know you know good vibes going forward because it just didn't happen for them the crazy thing is last year end of the year right they have like their good run you know they win five in a row or whatever at the end of the season they win an extra inning game in san francisco then another one game 162 and all of us myself included kind of wrote that off is like all right well it didn't matter because you know they were essentially all but eliminated for most of that run and they were eliminated for a good chunk of it at the end so it was kind of like you know all right throw it away it doesn't really mean anything and you know i made note in spring training a couple of times that last year this team with jerks and pro far on the roster at the end of the season went 16 and 5 and i kind of said it like tongue in cheek during the spring training broadcasts because like hey that's kind of cool right and there's like a story there but we all know better it couldn't have just been because jerks and pro far showed up that's not why they won 16 out of their last 21 games last year but you know kind of what you're saying there is a different vibe and and it's very hard to say he isn't a huge part of that and look you're absolutely right you have to go out and get the hits you have to get out and do the thing but you know sometimes there are guys you know that make a big difference you know intangible and in intangible ways and it's getting harder and harder to think the jerks and pro far is not one of the best examples of that when it comes to this Padre team in this Padre clubhouse and so i'm loving the attention he's getting nationally i'm loving that he's leading the way in all-star balloting because it is so deserved you know from the raw numbers standpoint and what he's produced this year from the way he's sort of battling through this knee situation to obviously the the impact which i think is gigantic that he's had on this team no question about it talking to Jesse Agler voiced the Padre's you can hear him tonight 97-3 the fan along with Tony Gwen jr i you know another one is is Jackson Merrill being 21 years old and and now honestly like he's a leader and we talked about the message that you're hearing coming out of there um you know last year's message was essentially oh don't worry don't worry we'll get there we'll be where we need to be this year's message is don't mess with us we're a bunch of effing ballers they've said it they've called themselves ballers so many times and i'm like this they're act they actually believe this and when you watch them play yeah man they have those games where you're like oh man who wants to face these guys they're just relentless they don't quit it's pretty apparent that Jackson Merrill is another one of those guys in that clubhouse at 21 first taste of the big leagues and now is you know a regular that people are like should we extend him another 12 years it's it's been pretty remarkable yeah i i don't think there's any reason i've extension talks for a lot of like kind of obviously logistical reasons um but he's playing his ass off and he's i'm i can't tell you how much i'm enjoying watching Jackson Merrill like way more than i expected you know just sort of the natural alright he's 20 at the beginning of spring training he turns 21 you know let's not expect too much you know let's hope for the best but i mean he's exceeded every expectation i've had in every way um and he is a great kid and he's a dog as you're talking about man he's he's he's up on the top railing of the dugout he's intense and i think that whole thing goes to a conversation about roster construction that sometimes gets a little bit put off to the side usually when we're talking about roster construction we're talking left right we're talking power contact we're talking whatever but like there is something i believe when it comes to roster construction that should involve personality oh yeah and you know kind of having not necessarily just the right mix of guys because that's a little bit difficult but a mix of guys who have different kinds of like edges to them um you know i think everybody understands the way that you know a team will sometimes take on the personality of its leadership and how certain guys will you know follow other guys and that can be good and the person and the situation you know sometimes you need personality a sometimes you need personality b sometimes you need personality y um and that's the good thing is you've got different sort of like versions of that in the padre clubhouse and i'm not suggesting like jackson meryl is leading the way at 21 years old but i tell you what the energy that he brings the intensity that he brings the ability that he brings it's all contagious and all that stuff matters and that can get other guys riled up in a good way he has been a critical piece to the success this team has had very similar to pro far right with like kind of that you know high energy intensity and attitude you know jerks and always looking to create a chip on his shoulder over something and it helps him he's one of those guys and it is really really fun to watch let me say this about the 20 2014 and i know everybody in town knows this because people have been showing up like crazy not supposed to have 39,000 on a monday against the national okay like it's incredible every single night out there but this is a very watchable baseball team not only because of like the comebacks and the sort of you feel like they're never out of it thing but the energy and the excitement that those guys play with and on top of that like they don't strike out any more it's remarkable this is a team that struck out like every other team basically a ton you know the last couple of years and it's like all of a sudden the switch got flipped this season they're putting the ball in play they're just a more entertaining team to observe than they've been really i think at any time uh since i've been here which is saying something because there's been some cool teams but this year's team is so fun to watch and and they're just kind of doing it a little bit differently than so many of the other really good teams top batting average in baseball will leave the league and bunt hits as well and they they hit home runs so they can do it in lots of different ways it is entertaining you're absolutely right Jesse you mentioned jerksons uh you know motivation and uh the the near hit by pitch the intentional walk to put him up and he talked about it after the game now do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you were kind of hearing from the washington nationals oh yes yes excuse me washington nationals dugout at the end of the game wow that was an old timer you okay over there uh we don't know um i haven't quite been the same since our golf tournament last week he's dying how'd you play i do we didn't play at all we didn't we just uh retain the entire day can hands kissing babies buddy hmm that's nice um congrats good job thank you thank you was our question there yeah does he expect any fireworks tonight oh well fireworks you know i mean like uh no i mean you never know but i mean mckenzie is fiery you know remember that uh you tried to fight his third baseman in the dugout a couple weeks ago uh he's on the mountain for the nat so he he definitely has had times and he's admitted to this you know kind of what his emotions uh you know get to him but he's he's a pro like i don't know i mean what what are you guys expecting like what am i missing here i just i don't know i mean the the way the nationals tv broadcasters were describing the reaction from guys like jesse winker or winker and cabbard ruise they were really unhappy with jerksons celebration after the game oh i mean i don't know that that you like i think we're at the point in baseball now where you know you got to walk off when you got to expect all kinds of craziness and if the guy gets knocked on his backside you know what is it two pitches before the game winning hit you know he's probably going to be a little bit fired up in that moment um you never know in baseball i don't have a great sense of like how the gnats handle stuff we haven't seen them since last summer um so you know maybe that is kind of the way they like to go about business um but i i wouldn't think you know there's a reason for it look that they're a team like the padre's who are you know very much in this you know early season playoff conversation if i'm the washington nationals i'm not trying to get caught up in something like that yeah you know i'm i'm trying to win another game or two here uh because all of these games against these teams that could be in the wild card match really important i remember tiebreakers now head to head um so the three games that they're playing here the three games that they'll play in washington after the all-star break you know could be if the gnats hang around the playoff picture all summer long you know those could end up being like critically important games for both of these teams so that's my perspective it would be like hey you know worry about trying to win a game not you know being upset that somebody was happy that they won one we got a little behind uh on the technical difficulties so let's get quickly to the incorporated word for today poly's got it for you here jesse bivouac bivouac you've probably heard that before right oh yeah every day yeah every day every day easy one bivouac is a temporary encampment uh without tents or cover used by usually soldiers or mountaineers a bivouac for you yeah bivouac you've got a lot of temporary shelters out on a baseball field that should be no problem for you tonight jesse good luck with that i've got i've got one in my head and uh yeah we'll see what we can do all right thanks for listening tonight uh six forty first pitch with tony win jr five forty eco water so cal pre-game show thank you jesse i guess jesse act now we got nice and clear by the end there let's uh let's remember whatever that took to get him sounding that good in our uh in our incorporated segment what happened to you i have no idea can we no idea i felt like i had some nut skin but i haven't eaten any nuts in my throat rattle report coming up thank you i can't help but thinking that if i was a fan of the Colorado Rockies i might be a little perturbed by jerks and profiles 2020 port season yeah i can sign you know about eight million bucks as a free agent in Colorado last year where you proceeded to at least buy war be perhaps the least productive player in all of baseball last year and now he comes back to the sandy who pot raise it you know an eighth the price and proceeds to be the best out fielder in the entire national league this year i mean the guy is born born to play in san diego i hate that he even left i i do you know when we're sitting around lamenting things and i try not to i do often think about what last year would have been like had he been here you know because again you talk about the jesse just talked about the way they ended the season you know when they got him back what if he had started in spring training with these guys what could have happened it goes to show you those as jesse was kind of talking about that chemistry is not simply a matter of getting good ball players with good attitudes all in the same room it has to mix well together because jerks and pro four had zero effect on the Rockies last year none whatsoever i mean it's the same guy i'm sure he came with his same passion and you know smiles and and fiery attitude but mixed with that team it did nothing somehow mixed though with this pot raise team mixed with the specific personalities of franando tetties jr and manny machado and the guys in this clubhouse it seems to be like magic waters for the san diego pot raise and not even for jerks and pro far too right for jerks and pro far it's it's there's something about here that he he loves playing here this is his you know how they always say well you know certain guys are made for new york or boston or philie jerks it's made for san diego that's he is a fit here in sanio he was he was a good player uh in in his other stops but when he's here he plays differently and in sometimes it's not even good players who end up being that guy or a alfaro it's not a good player no wasn't even really a good player in 2022 he just kept kept coming up with huge moments remember he was he was such not a good player that they wouldn't even use him once in the postseason ever austin nola out there he's like i'm catching again it's not really it's not like they were putting jonnie bench back there every single day well we just can't get you into the game where alfaro i i it was austin nola that they were using every single day because they had so little confidence in in whore hell far i need to do anything pitch in nothing nothing there were times i'm like just use it now i don't care if you hate him he's on the postseason roster what the hell happened and yet his magic was an undeniable part of that 2022 and and part of the reason why you got there you know why you got as far as you did was whore hell far oh and and i i wonder had nola pulled a quad what would they have done crony back there like what in the world was that all about we could look back at it and laugh now but it was really really weird but yeah man the you never know when you're gonna you never know when you're gonna hit on one right and and with jerks and pro for coming back couldn't be happier for the you know now that you think about it bob had bob melvin had twice he had he had alfaro in the playoffs they had carpenter for a month where he just refused to use a player on his roster yeah if that wasn't a sign that there was maybe a disconnect between aj preller and bob melvin hey aj i'm giving you this player bob's you know i'm not using him i'm not using him i'm using not playing you get to say you get to pick the roster but i get to set the lineup and he's not going to be in my lineup every single day it was uh is uh matt carpenter healthy available yeah yeah he's able to go off the bench but he just rotted he rotted here for a month it was crazy so yeah who knows what that stemmed from you have your ideas you have your theories about what went what went on there and alfaro's the story that i've heard a thousand rumors but i don't know any of them to be sure i think of the scene in money ball where uh he wants to keep playing who is it jeremy giambi at first base or oh it's carlos carlos painia at first base yeah carlos pain is not playing first base for you why because i just traded i mean just straight you can't play you can't play it let's do back as i am also trade a giambi you're killing this team jeremy's gone too and jeremy's gone too you've got control of the lineup but i've got control over the roster just trade all the guys that you want to play that i don't want in there all right uh let's get some other headlines at his time for today's riddle report and get things started here with our addition today's edition of the riddle report now tuned into the mop greatest welcome to the rindall report with paul rindall hi paul right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindall report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on ninety seven three the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good all right all right all right all right before i get started do you want to do you want to hear ben again i mean i've been waiting for it more than anything he tried to right yeah he tried to vamp just jump right in maybe i was trying to profile right brother we got plenty of time to get played that's always my problem there's always more time to fill if you missed my mistakes this was uh about 15 minutes ago with jesse agler on the uh zoom hotline do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you would kind of hear in from the washington nationals yes yes excuse me washington nationals yes god he just plows through it too well excuse me just like you were kind of hearing from the washington nationals not quite it was good can you remarow us for the home one you kind of hear it from the washington nationals excuse me along the way wasn't and the angels batting order angels batting order just excuse me wore out the uh where it socks fishing stick there's nothing better there's nothing better than that nothing nothing makes me happier than that in the world like my kid my kid can get a home run that's better to nationals like you slow it down she to nationals like she to nationals this is amazing i'm crying tears of my eyes right now you did your own hoktua that's what that was you feel better now yeah i felt fine three seconds before it happened it was instantaneous she's a national you feel it usually usually like for ten seconds you can go uh oh here come right there is instantly back in my throat it was there there's nothing i can do about it that's so good you're like i gotta get through this question right now holy crap that's so good save that forever she to nationals how do you put that on a t-shirt you gotta find a way all right let's uh let's dive into it gentlemen we'll start off uh in the world of hockey the 2023 2024 NHL season came to an end last night game seven of the Stanley Cup finals florida and edmondson edmondson with all the momentum climbing down from their o3 deficit forcing a game seven but florida had just enough to get by uh they won two to one last night watched pretty much all the game i watched the whole first period and then i switched over had that game muted with the potteries game on the mainstream but uh yeah two to one florida pretty good game man overall i i didn't see a whole lot of the rest of the series i don't want to tell you it was chippy close games or anything like that but uh last night's game was great and then i firmly believe the Stanley Cup the tradition that goes along with the Stanley Cup i watched the elite the trophy ceremony at the end how every guy gets to hold it and do a lap around the ice and kiss it and then they pass it on to their teammate and the team just sits there watches every single guy get their moment i thought it was awesome here's how it sounded on local radio in florida the final seconds 10 seconds left to what pithers a dream 30 years in the meow is a real the florida pithers have won the Stanley Cup once Stanley is coming home you always will have a place in so florida oh my god the pithers have won the Stanley Cup for the first time start the celebration south florida the pithers have done it Stanley Cup champions this is a drunk fan just walk into the booth grab a mic grab the mic it's the woods of the crew there holy cow exactly how i imagine toning wind junior acting when the driver finally makes that call yes the Stanley Cup is coming home to sunrise florida where it's always belong yes where it's always going 30 years the kids grew up on the frozen ponds of south florida dreaming of a Stanley Cup title have won the Stanley Cup for the first time it's incredible incredible it's a great game yeah Conor McDavid though he's going to be seeing his missed opportunity in his dream right i mean that missed opportunity but he was acknowledged as the best player in a very in a very rare situation Conor McDavid when the cons smive trophy is the most valuable player despite the fact that he was on the losing team yeah now it's for the entire post season so the argument was definitely there that that Conor McDavid was the best player in the NHL playoffs but we we live now in such a you know it's all about the winning team sports mentality that it's becoming much harder to justify giving a player on a losing team the most valuable player award how valuable could you have been if your team didn't actually win the title isn't someone on the winning team more valuable because their team got the whole way yeah and you know he didn't come out to get it which i totally understand i totally understand that i don't yeah on the road in front of the other fans i noticed yeah i just lost and you know he just battled back yeah man i i've i've no problem without whatsoever there's only been one Super Bowl MVP from a losing team dallas cowboys linebacker chuck howley uh it intercepted two passes and recovered a fumble in a 16 13 loss to the Baltimore Colts and Super Bowl five my aunt Brenda dated his son really scott i went to scott howley yeah pretty cool super bowl MVP uh one time in the NBA jerry west uh they talked about it in winning time 1971 NBA finals MVP despite a 4-3 loss to the boston Celtics that year and it's never happened oh it happened once in baseball too bobby richardson in the world series in 1960 hit 367 for the Yankees with 12 runs batted in including a grand slam but Yankees lost in seven to the Pittsburgh Pirates so it does happen very rarely but mostly way back in the past not modern day sports where the losing player gets the MVP award that's it for the hockey season uh the new season begins actually this weekend with the NHL draft no lag there and uh i saw this was pretty cool i might actually need to tune in and just see what it looks like they're gonna host the NHL draft from the sphere in Las Vegas great move great move amazing move that's gonna look super cool rarely does the NHL outshine like the NBA or NFL in such things but how the NFL didn't come up with that already no damn it no idea how they missed that opportunity all right uh we'll switch over to some local sports news i would say pretty surprising news i thought the San Diego wave announced that they have parted ways with head coach kasey stony club made the announcement yesterday paul buckle is going to serve as the interim head coach they issued a statement they said we are immensely grateful to kasey for her commitment to our club and the positive impact she has had both on and off the pitch that was from Jill Ellis over the past seasons kasey has guided us to significant milestones and her contributions have been instrumental in laying a strong foundation on which to build the decision to part ways was very hard and not made in haste but given the ambition of this club and where we are in our season we felt the change was necessary at this time so obviously we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes but certainly from the surface level last year they had the best record in the nwsl although they lost in the semifinals in the playoffs this year they're near the bottom of the standings but they've dealt with a ton of injuries Alex morgan and other players have missed several games they've had trouble scoring in soccer feels like that's not uncommon the teams go through droughts where they just can't get the ball in the back of the net they've outplayed opponents and just haven't haven't scored to win that's not necessarily a coaching failure when your team doesn't finish off you've got good plan everyone's in the right position they just don't score i don't necessarily blame the coach for that so i was a bit surprised now it also comes i don't know if you saw this kasey stony went off uh after her team law or they didn't lose but they zero zero tie on saturday and houston she absolutely ripped the entire league for the scheduling of having to play three road games in like eight days in three cities wrapping out in houston where it was like a hundred with like a hundred percent humidity for her players going no other team has had to do this what we just across the country three east coast you know time zone games this is not fair to my players they they played their heart out yeah they didn't score but i i was so proud of them and he said this is unacceptable it's kind of scheduling in the league and then she gets she gets fired a day later boy i mean you wouldn't you wouldn't want to fire a coach for defending their players no i don't think so in in you know perfect world like you said we don't know everything that's going on behind it i didn't see a lot of mixed reaction about this i didn't i saw mostly the support for kasey stony and in fact i saw her tweet last night to the sirens who are the support group for the for the wave and she said thank you sirens you're incredible i love your support for the team from day one today i'm broken but in time i'll be proud of what all what we all achieved together cheer the players loud on friday that's what they deserve pretty class move by by now former coach kasey stony the only coach they had ever had finally this is a bit of a almost like a ai ta am i the a-hole story a woman online said that she filed for divorce from her husband and the reason is what he do well he over tightened every jar in their house and it got to she hair breaking point was it like a deterrent for her was she snacking a lot she says uh you know it says i know this doesn't seem like a big deal but every jar in the house is over tightened to the point where he has to be home to open any of them it's so annoying when he's not around i can't get anything done she says she confronted her husband about it many times and it would get better for a little while and then just slowly would become an issue once again uh if he was not home she would have to regularly like let's say there's a half jar of half full jar of sauce or whatever she would have to go get a new jar because she could at least open that one if he wasn't home and then she says the nail in the coffin was that she discovered that even the jars that he never would have opened right those were over tightened meaning he was doing it on purpose he did over tightening every jar not just a habit he was doing this intentionally she went crazy she said she lost sleep over it she had a breakdown to the point where she vomited and felt like she was having a heart attack so she called it quits i think i'm uh team her on this one that's a weird thing for a guy to go in and start tightening jars was he doing it i mean like did he use the jar and then when he just tightens things he tightens them really ties he just said he would go in and do jars and stuff he wouldn't even use he just would go in and just now was he using just his hands or was it like a mechanically there's something like you know really getting a good grip on it and turning it he was just going and just tightening it and she said that uh one time her husband was out of town so she asked the neighbor to come over and even he couldn't afford to do some of these jars what is your secret for opening a jar you can't use mac on the side of it with a spoon this is all the way around but of a butter knife or something i take the dead tip of a butter knife and i put it up into the seal and you hear the thing pop up and then you can open it you know that trick you know what i'm talking about you go kind of under the lid under the lid you kind of pry Jimmy it yeah then you kind of damage the top it won't necessarily slow as it doesn't damage again it gets the air to shoot that thing up and you can open it pretty easily try that next time you're trying to get into your closets i hate vlasix i hate though when you're you get a little you try it and he doesn't open the first time but then you've exerted yourself and now your hands get a little sweaty oh yeah it's hard it's harder and harder and now you're looking for like a towel or something to grip on the and then once you can't do it you're now you're feeling even worse about it now your wife's watching and like you said you could do it and now you can't do it and it's not a good feeling how about we can't you get we caned in the morning we caned is the thing you know you wake up and you're like i gotta open this and you can't there's nothing that can happen you're just like i i sorry i can't do this i have we caned right now i get we caned in the morning the woman says that her husband was completely blindsided by her divorce request sure he was he said there were literally no other issues uh everything's good such life's great everything's you know she says she says he suggested counseling and she refused quote there's just no point i literally can't get past the damned jar lids he still won't even admit that he did it on purpose he's given me no reason that's it done it's a weird one it is weird but maybe you want her side maybe you weren't meant to be if that's gonna you know that's gonna if you're if you're the man and you're over tightening and you're the woman and you want it not tight maybe you guys weren't meant to be it happens i'm sorry about your we can syndrome it sucks you don't get it i don't think so oh man get it like in the mornings on the weekends what are you opening in the mornings unit butter yeah something you know anything those are plastic no gatorade i'm like i can't open this buddy i'm sorry you know no chance oh a gatorade yeah like a gatorade plastic gatorade yeah we can really yeah it'll get you you never had trouble with a gatorade it'll get you it'll get you it'll get you like pasta sauce that pasta sauce that's always the trick you want yep it's tough one pickles the metal the metal top of the glass i don't have like a machine like a can opener no for a for a jar yeah just kind of screwed yep you are especially weak hands you're literally screwed two tights yeah two tights screwed it on two tights all right uh good stuff on the rental report today all right we'll come back uh got a big game tonight if you want to uh continue the momentum from last night we'll talk about it next after traffic here at 97.3 the fan congratulations to a jj retic on winning his press conference yesterday as the new head coach the los angeles slakers now i'm glad you said that because i did see a lot of hand ringing yesterday lots of hand ringing from the media over the f-word that he said he did he did use air he did use an f-word during his very proper otherwise news conference i think they asked him about distractions or something misconceptions there any misconceptions that um that you'd like to clear up about you taking this job he was he was a little funny he came in and said i don't know if you've heard this before but i have no nva head coaching experience at all you know he he's obviously a savvy guy he's good on camera that's why he's been working on his bn so i fully expected him to do very well in the press conference if he didn't that would have been such an unbelievably bad sign if jj retic couldn't have even won the press conference then he would have had no hope as an nba head coach it makes no difference at all if you win the opening press conference and he green one is opening press conference yet see jayce tingler though did the whole manage games in my mind jayce tingler well that was a bad sign that he didn't win the opening press one man but at the very least i knew jj retic would do well getting introduced to the media why do people get so offended by the f-word in the year 20 the year of our lord 2024 they're like man he's a pro he should handle himself that i'm like you don't think coaches say the f-word i have to keep myself from saying the f-word and t-ball practice trust me i i get it they're six but this is a grown man coaching grown men you don't think you know i like people that are real i like people that talk the way they talk i had a guy one time reach out to adam about my salty language and adam goes he goes he would never talk this way at home in front of his kids and adam goes bro that's exactly who he is like on and off the air a hundred percent and i and the guy goes oh well in that case that's pretty cool like what like what do you what are we what are we clutching our pearls well i salty can you get on i guess i would say he knows that it's probably being broadcast live and possibly over the air to some places and as a broadcast you should probably know that there are certain words that we as broadcasters are not supposed to say live on the radio wish we could we get punished like by fines for those words so because i don't i don't give an F it's great by the way it's not some people talk tell real people talk out there in the world be yourself i loved it that was great i'm not a laker fan by any stretch but i was like that's it's a good press conference what's a solid press conference does it help him win one single game no not a one not at all that's the the work is still to come for jj retic in in trying to build in an almost impossible situation oh yeah a winner but he said the right things going going for the championship talked about uh you know wanting to give back be a teacher you know help other people become the best players they can be all the things you would expect someone to say in that situation and jj retic did a nice job yesterday no question all right we've got some tickets to give away more san diego legion tickets they are uh a championship contender here they've qualified for the playoffs they are wrapping up the regular season this saturday at snapdragon stadium if you want to check out some rugby in person against the seattle sea wolves uh you can win a pair of tickets right now the third caller at 833 288 097 3 going to get a pair of tickets to see the legion and seattle sea wolves again this saturday it's snapdragon stadium call 833 288 097 3 or get your own tickets at sd legion.com while you call in we'll take our final time out then we'll come back and we can talk about tonight's game continuing uh this series pot raise washington nationals uh trying to you know put together more than just one run at the same time you know that magnet that gets you back to 500 oh man can you escape its grip yeah it's the death of the day or two yeah uh a win tonight would at least be a step in the right direction get to that next year at 97 3 the fan a little extra juice benny for tonight's game right mckenzie gore going against uh you know the gm that traded him cj abraham's had a big night last night for the nationals he had the he had jessie winker going into the stands last night to yell at a uh of sixty six year old man i believe uh who said it was bush league that they went up and ended jerks and pro far you had um the washington nationals broadcast talking about you know uh the the pot raise celebration on their own home field after scoring four runs in the tenth like that's something that happens every single night uh so yeah man a little extra juice tonight uh out of pick up art any uh fireworks i've been thinking about a lot this morning and i you know my we know we know mckenzie gore a little bit he's a he's a salty dude what was the story you mentioned it and i thought you said to fight his own yeah nixon's l third base man so what happened grounded a third i don't remember the ending the situation grounded a third since l i think he does back hands it and he stops and he just kind of lollipops won over the first and it had an arc you know just and and the guy was safe he beat it out so after they got in the dugout mckenzie gore said something to him like hey dude what's why are you half-assing that throw and since l was like i don't want to hear it from you you work every five days you know i don't want to hear a still word from you and they got after it in the dugout they had to be separated so those kind of things happen uh in the during the course of a long-ass season i'm sure it seems like a sign of uh potential you know a rift in the clubhouse bad things but the nationals at least until yesterday one of the hottest teams in baseball they went 11 of their previous 15 games coming into this series a lot of times those things are good for clubhouse um you know you kind of get it all out you know you air it out and nixon's l probably got mad because yeah he did lollipop your pictures out they're fighting for his life and you're half-assing a throw from third base and a guy beats it out and yeah man you it's probably a good thing inherently nixon's l won't do that again you know he's not gonna he's not gonna half-ass a throw over there so um i just think you know mckenzie gore is a really fiery competitor you know that he's a tough kid we all like mckenzie gore i i don't think he's gonna i think he wants for him i'm gonna put myself in his shoes not that i'd ever be but for me and for you guys what would you want to do wouldn't you want to go out and shove for seven shut out innings that's what i would want to do not go out and dot jerks and pro-far for being excited about hitting a a walk-off you know rule book double yeah that's what i would want to do is the starting pitcher but we don't know the temperature of the club house and the guys from last night and maybe it carries i mean i i don't know i would hope that cooler heads prevail yeah 24 hours later it's fine but if your teammates are all still pissed off like really angry and expecting something i think you got to do what you got to do i just think i think for him and i'm not i'm not like advocating no i i i think if you're him yeah you want to you want to go out and dominate on the mound that's that's the ultimate revenge and if you're at a hundred pitches and then you throw one go ahead i think we've we've expected a few times some fireworks and and they haven't ever materialized so i'm not gonna not gonna expect anything to happen in the game no it's probably the closest we've been to uh adani brook or a bruhaha uh this year certainly what if Adrian mory hone said anything to jake kronoworth about his throw in the seven oh man right three hopper to first base ended up costing the pod raise the uh the run that tied the game and ended up forcing extra innings yeah you want to in listen neither someone needs to talk to jake neither crony or husson kim were charged with errors no on those but i think they probably should have been and i think both of those guys would tell you yeah i need to do better uh on that so you want to make sure you play clean today you're up against it if you're the san diego potteries let's not sugar code anything you're up against it you got out of major on the mound he has been he's been he's been pretty wild you know the the command has not necessarily been there the stuff really hasn't looked superb uh at all but listen you got thrown into this you're you're you're in a pinch and you need him to go out and give you everything he has um don't know how well rested the bull pen is after last night either so hey man it's a recipe for disaster but i've said that before i'm improving least if you're going to use all your top guys emerge with a victory that that game could have been pretty disastrous use all your topper levers have your best pitching match up of the series and end up with a loss at the end of the day could have been really really ugly i'm curious to see what the outfield's going to look like going forward on a day-to-day basis without Fernando Tati's jr for the next probably at least month maybe longer i don't get the sense that Bryce johnson is your everyday option he got the the opportunity yesterday mike shilt talked about tyler way getting some at bats in the outfield eggy rizario may at some point start getting some at bats in the outfield you got to be today i would imagine well he might get some at bats i don't know if they're ready to put him in the outfield i mean he's an infielder by trade so just play the sum but they said they want to work with him a little bit okay maybe they'll throw him into the fire and just just get him out there to get his bat into the lineup uh you know you put peralta out there but he's not not a plus defender at this point so you have some options but what what are the best ways to go forward and you consider making a move at any point yeah i mean we're always i think they're always looking to make moves i just don't know how splashy they're going to be right now and you know i did see some sentiment uh online of well now the tatis is out time to kind of not fold up the tents you know so to speak but i'm more concerned about darvish and muskrow right and if aj can like can even wait until closer to the trade deadline or if he has to go move make a move and get a picture sooner rather than late i just again you know starting pitchers you're not really growing on trees right now they're just not there's a couple teams that would probably be willing to deal but it's gonna cross the capital that you have i mean but do you have do you you don't want to trade solace or debris and and so i just i don't know what you want to do well we've heard about garret crochet i got another name for you that was brought up this morning by espn's jeff parson i'll get to that right after this check traffic at 97 through the fam so this morning uh espn's baseball insider dropped a a little column basically going through each playoff contender and who would be the the top trade deadline addition for each team like realistic addition that they could go after now obviously some of these names require their teams decide that they're ready to trade players as opposed to acquire and that specifically is true with the name that jeff parson came up for your san diego podray so he said best match weakness starting pitching best match louis sevarino podrays are pot committed and they are a starter okay maybe two away from taking control of one of the in a wild card slot sevarino fits almost all of their needs been very good with the 3.290 array over 90 and a third innings and 15 starts for the Mets his slider is a true out pitch elite in shape and outcome and with san diego's budgetary concerns he would be coming from an organization that just last year was willing to eat tens of millions of dollars when the Mets traded starters justin verlander and max shurzer the udarvis suffering a setback in his attempt to return from the injured list dylan sees michael king and matt walter and the only three reliable starters and san diego's rotation getting sevarino would strengthen the podray starting group and a lot of general manager aj preller to hold on to his top hitting prospects catcher ethan sallis and short stop leo de vreese who are the sort of returned chicago would seek if preller went whale hunting and tried to land crochet what's he cost i mean it's you know great for what i mean he doesn't think it's one of the top guys probably a lesco and or a snelling especially if you're going to ask them to eat money it's just hard on the deal and you would be asking them to eat money it's just hard because you know you're one game over 500 you know the nl is a little bit suspect right now but you also don't want to give the appearance that you're packing it in and bringing up you know no offense to them by the brice johnson's of the world the atom measures of the world it's that's not sustainable that they're not going to make some sort of miraculous run with with that with those guys being your death i think so yeah but you know if you're you're probably still counting on the fact that tatis and bo guards are going to be back and hopefully healthy at some point good pitching can get you through a period of time during the season even when your hitting is down because good pitching beats good hitting and you still have you can win three to two games with good pitching you still have it but if you're giving up five or six runs consistently toast you don't have the offense to overcome that right now consistently but good pitching would would go a long way i think you can some maybe you solve your tatis problem by going after more pitching and going after a little bit sooner it's like michael says the metric of game and a half out you know why are they and like jeff passe and he did qualify and then didn't mention the qualifier when do they decide that they're ready to move if there's no reason to move uh louis sevareno right now then there's no reason you keep them and and try to make a run yourself so i mean again they're in new york of course of course steve coen can't for two years in a row be like that's it for us i know it's end of june but we're gonna well i know we have six weeks left till the trading deadline we're done we're probably not going to make a run i know we you know we spend a ton of money i think there's still number one in payroll um yeah we're done which which does insulate co-in from some criticism even if they aren't going after you can't say well why does this owner spend any money on the team we're spending the most money on his team the last two seasons maybe not effectively definitely not effectively but that's more of your baseball operations issue than the ownership issue yeah and you know with the new gm in place there he's going to be able to do his thing um and we'll see we'll we'll see what kind of what kind of move that is i i think it is and buyers of the deadline we've seen that before if you feel like you're trading from a position of of power and depth and if the meds feel that way be happy to take louis severino off your hands we could use them could use them tonight um you know on the bump so i don't know it remains a very interesting landscape in major league baseball right now because of the extra wild card because a lot of teams at least want to give the appearance then though no we're we're still in this thing and and again it's a fun it's a needle you have to thread if you're a gm isn't it like where you have to say i'd really love to improve our team for the future but i can't give the appearance that we're packing it in for this year because then people won't buy tickets they're not going to trust that i have the best interest in mind i mean aj proler has got him he's got his work cut out for him again but again it this is all of his own it's all of his own doing so uh i think if you're the san diego pod race and you see what 39 000 people against the nationals on a monday night you have no choice you have no choice and again you can still improve your team hanging on to your top two guys if those are the only untouchable guys you can improve your team bar none it's never a bad idea to make a smart deal never whether it's always a good idea whether it's one that's aimed toward the future or the present you want every deal to be a smart valued deal for your franchise you don't want to give up too much if you're acquiring a player and you want to get as much back if you're willing to deal a player so and make the smart deals that are out there you know dan says in the chat you must grow if tatice x come back no trades needed if you told me joe musgrove had a strained calf and you darvis had a tight quad blister and yeah tatice had a you know minor ankle sprain and and zander boghards had a forearm strain yes dan i think you are absolutely right it's possible zander boghards is the first one back i don't know what it is absolutely not good i i do feel like oh and by the way as as i need money says this bull pet needs an arm you know as well or three or three or two you know and and so you could improve your depth uh in other spots as well like it's just they need a lot tatice and boghards i'm pretty confident will be back healthy at some point this season i don't know how soon it will be but before the end of the season both guys will be healthy will they be producing that again that's a mystery that's baseball but those guys will be healthy i can't say that about joe and i'm not even sure i can say that about you darvis at this point just too much is unknown so pitching to me is still the number one area of need for joe said yesterday before the game that he's started like the very initial stages of throwing on a field i mean he could be so weeks weeks away yeah and there's just so much unknown i just it's just a weird we are one of those teams and there's a bunch of us we are one of those weird positions where you can't turn your you can't start selling guys in my opinion i mean you can't i mean what what's the what's the fan base gonna do if you're like well we could move us on kim and dill and cease and i mean could you get some really nice pieces in return the answer to that question is yes on paper maybe you don't know what it's going to be used if someone wants to overpay i listen i do listen doesn't mean you're waving the white flag necessarily because you can make another move and get someone else yes and that we've seen that move so you have to let you have to listen in this kind of market when there's so many buyers she never would be strange there would have to be a lot of things happening behind the scenes that'd be tough we'll see see what happens on the night that's uh that's it for tonight uh we'll uh be back tomorrow that's it for today we'll be back tomorrow day baseball tomorrow yes but we'll be back in the morning to wrap up tonight's game and uh you know do the discussion that we always do in the mornings for paul rindall for steve at woods i'm bed hagan's andi and elston coming up next keep it right here on sanny it goes number one sports station ninety seven three to fans how long everybody can't help but thinking that if i was a fan of the colorado rockies i might be a little perturbed by jerks and pro-fars twenty twenty fourth season yeah i think we had a sign you know about eight million bucks as a free agent in colorado last year where he proceeded to at least buy war be perhaps the least productive player in all of baseball last year and now he comes back to the sandy who pot raised it you know an eighth the price and proceeds to be the best out fielder in the entire national league this year i mean the guy is born born to play in san diego i hate that he even left i i do you know when when we're sitting around lamenting things and i try not to i do often think about what last year would have been like had he been here you know because again you talk about the jessie just talked about the way they ended the season you know when they got them back what if he had started in spring training with these guys what could have happened it goes to show you those as jessie was kind of talking about that chemistry is not simply a matter of getting a good ball players with good attitudes all in the same room it has to mix well together because jerks and pro-fars had zero effect on the Rockies last year none whatsoever i mean it's the same guy i'm sure he came with his same passion and and you know smiles and and fiery attitude but mixed with that team it did nothing somehow mixed though with this pot raised team mixed with the specific personalities of franando tetties jr and mani machado and the guys in this clubhouse it seems to be like magic waters for the sandy ego pot raised and not even for jerks and pro-fars too right for jerks and pro-fars it's it's there's something about here that he he loves playing here this is his you know how they always say well you know certain guys are made for new york or boston or philly jerks it's made for sandy ego that's he is a fit here in sandy he was he was a good player uh in in his other stops but when he's here he plays differently and sometimes it's not even good players who end up being that guy or a alfaro it's not a good player no wasn't even really a good player in 2022 he just kept kept coming up with huge moments remember he was he was such not a good player that they wouldn't even use him once in the postseason ever austin nova out there he's like i'm catching again it's not really it's not like they were putting johnny bench back there every single day well we just can't get you into the game or alfaro i i it was austin nova that they were using every single day because they had so little confidence in in or alfaro i need to do anything pitch in nothing nothing nothing there were times i'm like just use it now i don't care if you hate him he's on the post-season roster what the hell happened and yet his magic was an undeniable part of that 2020 and and and part of the reason why you got there you know why you got as far as you did was or alfaro and and i i wonder had nola pulled a quad what would they have done crony back behind the dish like what in the world was that all about we can look back at it and laugh now but it was really really weird but yeah man the you never know when you're gonna you never know when you're gonna hit on one right and and with jerks and pro-far coming back couldn't be happier for the you know now that you think about it bob had bob melvin had twice he had he had alfaro in the playoffs then he had carpenter for a month where he just refused to use a player on his roster yeah if that wasn't a sign that there was maybe a disconnect between aj pro and bob melvin hey aj i'm giving you this player bob's you know i'm not using it i'm not using it i'm not using it i'm not using it you get to set you get to pick the roster but i get to set the lineup and he's not going to be in my lineup every single day it was uh he's uh mat carpenter healthy available yeah yeah he's available to go off the bench but he just rotted he rotted here for a month it was crazy so yeah who knows what that stemmed from you have your ideas you have your theories about what went what went on there and alfaro is the story that i've heard a thousand rumors but i don't know any of them to be true i think of the scene in moneyball where uh he wants to keep playing who is it geremy giambi at first base or oh it's carlos paney at first base yeah carlos paney is not playing first base for you why because i just traded him just you can't play you can't play let's do back because i am also traded giambi you're killing this team geremy's gone too and geremy's gone too you've got control of the lineup but i've got control over the roster just trade all the guys that you want to play and then i don't want in there all right uh let's uh get some other headlines it is time for today's rattle report and get things started here with our edition today's edition of the rattle report welcome to the rindel report with paul rindel hi paul all right two stories from the world of sports that we haven't gotten to yet we'll start off in major league baseball and one story that you didn't know you needed are you laughing beyond it's the rindel report hey paul how you doing okay how are you on 97-3 the fan are you ready to blast the mood i need some help please that was good can i get a whole year oh yeah all right all right all right all right forget started do you want to do you want to hear Ben again i mean i've been waiting for it more than anything he tried to write yeah he tried to vamp just jump right in maybe i was trying to profile right brother we got plenty of time we got five minutes how is my problem there's always more time to fill if you missed my mistakes this was uh about 15 minutes ago with jesse agler on the zoom hotline do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you would kind of hearing from the washington nationals oh yeah yes yes excuse me washington nationals yes i need to plow through too well excuse me just like hearing from the washington nationals not quite it was good can you remarral us with a home run you kind of hear him from washington national excuse me along the way and the angel's batting order angels batting order just excuse me wore out the uh where it sucks fishing staff there's nothing better there's nothing better than that nothing nothing makes me happier than that in the world my kid my kid can get a home run i think that's better to nationals like you slow it down kington nationals kington nationals this is amazing i'm crying tears of my eyes right now you did your own hawk tour that's what that was i don't know do you feel better now kington nationals yeah i i felt fine three seconds before it happened it was instantaneous you can national right there you feel it usually usually like for 10 seconds you can go uh oh here it comes here comes here right there it's instantly back in my throat it was there there's nothing i can do about it that's so good you're like i gotta get through this question right now holy crap that's so good save that forever kington nationals how do you put that on a t-shirt it's what i want to know you gotta find a way all right let's uh let's dive into it gentlemen we'll start off uh in the world of hockey the 2023 2024 NHL season came to an end last night game seven of the Stanley Cup finals florida and edmondson edmondson with all the momentum climbing down from their 0-3 deficit forcing a game seven of florida that just enough to get by uh they won two to one last night watched pretty much all the game i watched the whole first period and then i switched over had that game muted with the pot raise game on the main screen but uh yeah two to one florida pretty good game man overall i i didn't see a whole lot of the rest of the series i don't want to tell you it was chippy close games or anything like that but uh last night's game was great and then i firmly believe the Stanley Cup the tradition that goes along with the Stanley Cup i watched the elite the trophy ceremony at the end how every guy gets to hold it and do a lap around the ice and kiss it and then they pass it on to their teammate and the team just sits there watches every single guy get their moment i thought it was awesome uh here's how it sounded on local radio in florida the final seconds ten seconds left to what pithers a dream 30 years in the meeting is a real the florida pithers have won the Stanley Cup once Stanley is coming home you always will have a place in some florida oh my god the pithers have won the Stanley Cup for the first time oh my god oh oh start the celebration self-florida the pithers have done it Stanley Cup champions this is a drunk fan just walking to the ground my grab the mike that's the woods of the crew there holy cow exactly how i imagine tony gwen jr acting when dragler finally makes that call yes the Stanley Cup is coming home to sunrise florida where it's always below yes where it's always going 30 years the kids grew up on the frozen ponds of south florida dreaming of a Stanley Cup title everyone the Stanley Cup for the first time it's incredible incredible it's a great game yeah Conor McDavid though he's gonna be seeing his missed opportunity in his dream right i mean that missed opportunity but he was acknowledged as the best player in a very in a very rare situation Conor McDavid when the cons smive trophy is the most valuable player despite the fact that he was on the losing team yeah now it's for the entire post season so the argument was definitely there that that Conor McDavid was the best player in the NHL playoffs but we we live now in such a you know it's all about the winning team sports mentality that it's becoming much harder to justify giving a player on a losing team the most valuable player award how valuable could you have been if your team didn't actually win the title isn't someone on the winning team more valuable because their team got the whole way yeah and you know he didn't come out to get it which i totally understand i totally understand that i don't yeah on the road in front of the other fans i noticed yeah i just lost you know we just battled back yeah man i i've i've no problem with that whatsoever there's only been one Super Bowl MVP from a losing team Dallas Cowboys linebacker Chuck Howley intercepted two passes and recovered a fumble in a 16 13 loss to the Baltimore Colts and Super Bowl 5 my aunt Brenda dated his son really Scott i went to i went to his soul howley yeah pretty cool Super Bowl MVP one time in the NBA Jerry West they talked about it in winning time 1971 NBA Finals MVP despite a 4-3 loss to the Boston Celtics that year and it's never happened oh it happened once in baseball too Bobby Richardson in the world series in 1960 hit 367 for the Yankees with 12 runs batted in including a grand slam but Yankees lost in seven to the Pittsburgh Pirates so it does happen very rarely but mostly way back in the past not modern day sports where the losing player gets the MVP award that's it for the hockey season uh the new season begins actually this weekend with the NHL draft no lag there and uh i saw this was pretty cool i might actually need to tune in and just see what it looks like they're gonna host the NHL draft from the sphere in Las Vegas great move great move amazing move that's gonna look super cool rarely does the NHL outshine like the NBA or NFL in such things but how the NFL didn't come up with that already no damn it no idea how they missed that opportunity all right uh we'll switch over to some local sports news i would say pretty surprising news i thought the San Diego wave announced that they have parted ways with head coach Casey Stoney club made the announcement yesterday Paul Buckle is going to serve as the interim head coach they issued a statement they said we are immensely grateful to Casey for her commitment to our club and the positive impact she has had both on and off the pitch that was from Jill Ellis over the past seasons Casey has guided us to significant milestones and her contributions have been instrumental in laying a strong foundation on which to build the decision to part ways was very hard and not made in haste but given the ambition of this club and where we are in our season we felt the change was necessary at this time so obviously we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes but certainly from the surface level last year they had the best record in the nwsl although they lost in the semifinals in the playoffs this year they're near the bottom of the standings but they've dealt with a ton of injuries Alex Morgan and other players have missed several games they've had trouble scoring in soccer feels like that's not uncommon the teams go through droughts where they just can't get the ball in the back of the net they've outplayed opponents and just haven't haven't scored to win that's not necessarily a coaching failure when your team doesn't finish off you've got good plan everyone's in the right position they just don't score I don't necessarily blame the coach for that so I was a bit surprised now it also comes I don't know if you saw this Casey stony went off after her team law or they didn't lose but they zero zero tie on saturday and houston she absolutely ripped the entire league for the scheduling of having to play three road games in like eight days in three cities wrapping up in houston where it was like a hundred with like a hundred percent humidity for her players going no other team has had to do this what we just across the country three east coast you know time zone games this is not fair to my players they they played their hard out yeah they didn't score but I was so proud of them and he said this is unacceptable is kind of scheduling in the league and then she gets she gets fired a day later boy I mean you wouldn't you wouldn't want to fire a coach for defending their players no thanks though in you know perfect world like you said we don't know everything that's going on behind it I didn't see a lot of mixed reaction about this I didn't I saw mostly support for Casey stony and in fact I saw her tweet last night to the sirens who are the support group for the for the wave and she said thank you sirens you're incredible I loved your support for the team from day one today I'm broken but in time I'll be proud of what all what we all achieve together cheer the players loud on friday that's what they deserve pretty class move by by now former coach Casey stony the only coach they had ever had finally this is a bit of a almost like a ai ta am I the a-hole story a woman online said that she filed for divorce from her husband and the reason is what he do well he over tightened every jar in their house one and it got to she hit her breaking point was it like a deterrent for her was she snacking a lot she says uh you know it says I know this doesn't seem like a big deal but every jar in the house is over tightened to the point where he has to be home to open any of them it's so annoying when he's not around I can't get anything done she says she confronted her husband about it many times and it would get better for a little while and then just slowly would become an issue once again if he was not home she would have to regularly like let's say there's a half jar of half full jar of sauce or whatever she would have to go get a new jar because she could at least open that one if he wasn't home and then she says the nail in the coffin was that she discovered that even the jars that he never would have opened right those were over tightened meaning he was doing it on purpose he did over tightening every jar not just a habit he was doing this intentionally she went crazy she said she lost sleep over it she had a breakdown to the point where she vomited and felt like she was having a heart attack so she called it quits I think I'm uh team her on this one that's a weird thing for a guy to go in and start tightening jars was he doing it I mean like did he use the jar and then when he just tightens things he tightens them really tight as he just said he would go in and do jars his stuff he wouldn't even use he just would go in and just now was he using just his hands or was it like a mechanic like there's something like you know really getting a good grip on it and turning it was just going and just tightening it and she said that one time her husband was out of town so she asked the neighbor to come over and even he couldn't undo some of these jars what is your secret for opening a jar you can't smack on the side of it with a spoon this is all the way around the bottom of a butter knife or something I take the dentist hip of a butter knife and I put it up into the seal and I'm and you hear the thing pop up and then you can open it you know that trick you know what I'm talking about you go kind of under the lid under the lid you kind of pry Jimmy it yeah then you kind of damage the top it won't necessarily it doesn't damage just it gets the air to shoot that thing up and you can open it pretty easily try that next time you're trying to get into your closets I hate classics I hate though when you're you get a little you try it and he doesn't open the first time but then you've exerted yourself and now your hands get a little sweaty oh yeah it's hard you get harder and harder and now you're looking for like a towel or something to get the grip on the and then once you can't do it you're now you're feeling even worse about it now your wife's watching and like you said you could do it and now you can't do it and it's not a good feeling how about we can't you get we can in the morning we can't is the thing you know you wake up and you're like I gotta open this and you can't there's nothing that can happen you're just like I sorry I can't do this I have we can right now I get we can in the morning the woman says that her husband was completely blindsided by her divorce request sure he was he said there were literally no other issues everything's good such life's great everything's you know she says she says he suggested counseling and she refused quote there's just no point I literally can't get past the damned jar lids he still won't even admit that he did it on purpose he's given me no reason that's it done some weird one it is weird but maybe you want her side maybe you aren't meant to be if that's gonna you know that's gonna if you're if you're the man and you're over tightening and you're the woman and you want it not tight maybe you guys weren't meant to be it happens I'm sorry about your weak hand syndrome sucks you don't get it I don't think so oh man get it like in the mornings on the weekends what are you opening in the mornings peanut butter yeah something you know anything those are plastic no gatorade I'm like I can't open this for you buddy I'm sorry you know no chance oh a gatorade yeah like a gatorade plastic gatorade yeah we can't really yeah it'll get you never had trouble with a gatorade before it'll get you like pasta sauce that that's always the trick you want yep it's tough one pickles the metal the metal top of the glass I don't have like a machine like a can opener no for a for a jar yeah kind of screwed you are especially weak hands you're literally screwed too tight yeah too tight screwed it on too tight all right good stuff on the rental report today all right we'll come back got a big game tonight if you want to continue the momentum from last night we'll talk about it next after traffic here at 97.3 the fan congratulations to a JJ Redick on winning his press conference yesterday as the new head coach at the Los Angeles Lakers now I'm glad you said that because I did see a lot of hand ringing yesterday lots of hand ringing from the media over the f-word that he said he did he did use Harry he did use an f-word during his very proper otherwise news conference I think they asked him about distractions or something misconceptions there any misconceptions that that you'd like to clear up about you taking this job he was it was it was a little funny he came in and said I don't know if you've heard this before but I have no NBA head coaching experience at all you know he he's obviously a savvy guy he's good on camera that's why he's been working on ESPN so I fully expected him to do very well in the press conference if he didn't that would have been such an unbelievably bad sign if JJ Redick couldn't have even won the press conference then he would have had no hope as an NBA head coach it makes no difference at all if you win the opening press conference Andy Green won his opening press conference yeah see Jayce Tingler though did the whole manage games in my mind Jayce Tingler well that was a bad sign that he didn't win the opening but at the very least I knew JJ Redick would do well getting introduced to the media why do people get so offended by the f-word in the year 20 the year of our lord 2024 they're like man he's a pro he should handle himself that I'm like you don't think coaches say the f-word I have to keep myself from saying the f-worded T-ball practice trust me I get it they're six but this is a grown man coaching grown men you don't think you know I like people that are real I like people that talk the way they talk I had a guy one time reach out to Adam about my salty language and Adam goes he goes he would never talk this way at home in front of his kids and Adam goes bro that's exactly who he is on and off the air 100% and I and the guy goes oh well in that case that's pretty cool like what like what do we what are we clutching our pearls well I salty can you get on I guess I would say he knows that it's probably being broadcast live and possibly over the air to some places and as a broadcaster you should probably know that there are certain words that we as broadcasters are not supposed to say live on the radio wish we could we get punished like by fines for those words so because I don't I don't give a knife it's great by the way so some people talk tell real people talk out there in the world be yourself I loved it that was great I'm not a Laker fan by any stretch but I was like that's good press conference it was a solid press conference does it help him win one single game no no not a one not at all that's the the work is still to come for JJ Redick in trying to build in an almost impossible situation oh yeah a winner but he said the right things going going for the championship talked about you know wanting to give back be a teacher you know help other people become the best players they can be all the things you would expect someone to say in that situation and JJ Redick did a nice job yesterday no question all right we've got some tickets to give away more San Diego Legion tickets they are a championship contender here they've qualified for the playoffs they are wrapping up the regular season this Saturday at Snapdragon Stadium if you want to check out some rugby in person against the Seattle Sea Wolves you can win a pair of tickets right now the third caller at 833 288 097 3 going to get a pair of tickets to see the Legion and Seattle Sea Wolves again this Saturday at Snapdragon Stadium call 833 288 097 3 or get your own tickets at SD Legion dot com while you call in we'll take our final timeout then we'll come back and we can talk about tonight's game continuing this series pot raised Washington Nationals trying to you know put together more than just one run at the same time you know that magnet that gets you back to 500 can you escape its grip yeah it's the day or two yeah a win tonight would at least be a step in the right direction get to that next year at 97 3 the fam a little extra juice Benny for tonight's game right Mackenzie Gore going against you know the GM that traded him CJ Abrams had a big night last night for the Nationals he had the Jesse Winker going into the stands last night to yell at a of 66 year old man I believe who said it was Bush league that they went up and into jerks and pro far you had the Washington Nationals broadcast talking about you know the pot raised celebration on their own home field after scoring four runs in the 10th like that's something that happens every single night so yeah man a little extra juice tonight out of Pekko Park any fireworks I've been thinking about it a lot this morning and I you know Mike we know we know Mackenzie Gore a little bit he's a he's a salty dude what was the story you mentioned it and I like you said to fight his own yeah Nixon's out third baseman so great what happened grounder to third I don't remember the inning the situation grounded the third since Elle I think he does back hands it and he stops and he just kind of lollipops one over the first and it had an arc you know just and and the guy was safe he beat it out so after they got in the dugout Mackenzie Gore said something to him like hey dude what's why are you half-assing that throw and since Elle was like I don't want to hear it from you you work every five days you know I don't want to hear a still word from you and they got after it in the dugout they had to be separated so those kind of things happen in the during the course of a long-ass season I'm sure it seems like a sign of a potential you know a rift in the clubhouse bad things but the nationals at least until yesterday when the hottest teams in baseball they went 11 of their previous 15 games coming into this series a lot of times those things are good for clubhouse you know you kind of get it all out you know you air it out and nix and zell probably got mad because yeah he did lollipop your pictures out there fighting for his life and you're half-assing a throw from third base and a guy beats it out and yeah man you it's probably a good thing inherently nix and zell won't do that again you know he's not gonna he's not gonna half-ass a throw over there so um I just think you know Mackenzie Gore is a really fiery competitor you know that he's tough kid we all like Mackenzie Gore I don't think he's gonna I think he wants for him I'm gonna put myself in his shoes not that I'd ever be but for me and for you guys what would you want to do wouldn't you want to go out and shove for seven shut out innings that's what I would want to do not go out and dot jerks and pro-far for being excited about hitting a a walk-off you know rulebook double yeah that's what I would want to do is the starting pitcher but we don't know the temperature of the clubhouse and the guys from last night and maybe carries I mean I don't know I would hope that cooler heads prevail yeah 24 hours later it's fine but if your teammates are all still pissed off like really angry and expecting something I think you got to do what you got to do I just think I think for him but I'm not I'm not like advocating no I think if you're him yeah you want to you want to go out and dominate on the mount that's that's the ultimate revenge and if you're at a hundred pitches and then you throw one go ahead I think we've we've expected a few times some fireworks yeah and they haven't ever materialized so I'm not gonna not gonna expect anything to happen in the game no it's probably the closest we've been to a Donnie Brook or a Bruhaha uh this year certainly what if Adrian Morihone said anything to Jake Cronoworth about his throw in the setting man right three hopper to first base ended up costing the Padres the uh the run that tied the game and ended up forcing extra innings yeah you want to in listen neither someone needs to talk to Jake neither crony or hustle Kim were charged with errors no on those but I think they probably should have been and I think both of those guys would tell you yeah I need to do better uh on that so you want to make sure you play clean today you're up against it if you're the San Diego Padres let's not sugar code anything you're up against it you got out of major on the mount he has been he's been he's been pretty wild you know the command has not necessarily been there the stuff really hasn't looked superb at all but listen you got thrown into this you're you're you're in a pinch and you need him to go out and give you everything he has don't know how well rested the bullpen is uh after last night either so hey man it's a recipe for disaster but I've said that before improve at least if you're gonna use all your top guys emerge with a victory that game could have been pretty disastrous use all your top relievers have your best pitching match up of the series and end up with a loss at the end of the day could have been really really ugly I'm curious to see what the outfield's gonna look like going forward on a day-to-day basis without Fernando Tati's jr for the next probably at least month maybe longer I don't get the sense that Bryce Johnson is your everyday option you got the the opportunity yesterday Mike Chilt talked about Tyler Wade getting some at bats in the outfield eggy risario may at some point start getting some at bats in the outfield got to be today I would imagine well he might get some at bats I don't know if they're ready to put him in the outfield I mean he's an infielder by trade so he's played a little sum but they said they want to work with him a little bit okay maybe they'll throw him into the fire and just just get him out there to get his bat into the lineup you know you put peralta out there but he's not not a plus defender at this point so you have some options but what are the best ways to go forward and do you consider making a move at any point we're always I think they're always looking to make moves I just don't know how splashy they're going to be right now and you know I did see some sentiment online of well now the Tati's is out time to kind of not fold up the tents you know so to speak but I'm more concerned about Darvish and Musgrove right if AJ can like can even wait until closer to the direct trade deadline or if he has to go move make a move and get a picture sooner rather than late I just again you know starting pitchers you're not really growing on trees right now they're just not there's a couple teams that would probably be willing to deal but it's gonna cross the capital that you have I mean but do you have do you don't want to trade solace or debris and and and so I just I don't know what you want to do well we've heard about Garrett crochet I got another name for you that was brought up this morning by ESPN's Jeff Passen I'll get to that right after this check traffic on 97 through the fam so this morning ESPN's baseball insider dropped a little column basically going through each playoff contender and who would be the the top trade deadline edition for each team like realistic edition that they could go after now obviously some of these names require their teams decide that they're ready to trade players as opposed to acquire and that specifically is true with the name that Jeff Passen came up for your San Diego Padres who he said best match weakness starting pitching best match Luis Severino Padres were pot committed and they are a starter okay maybe two away from taking control of one of the NL wild card slots Severino fits almost all of their needs been very good with the 3.290 array over 90 and a third innings and 15 starts for the Mets his slider is a true out pitch a lead in shape and outcome and with San Diego's budgetary concerns he would be coming from an organization that just last year was willing to eat tens of millions of dollars when the Mets traded starters Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer the Udarvis suffering a setback and his attempt to return from the injured list Dylan Sees Michael King and Matt Walter are the only three reliable starters in San Diego's rotation getting Severino would strengthen the Padres starting group in a long general manager AJ Preller to hold on to his top hitting prospects catcher Ethan Salas and shortstop Leo DeVries who are the sort of return Chicago would seek if Preller went whale hunting and tried to land crochet what's he cost I mean it's you know great for what I mean he doesn't think it's one of the top guys probably a let's go and or a snelling especially if you're gonna ask them to eat money it's just hard on the deal and you would be asking them to eat money it's just hard because you know you're one game over 500 you know the NL is a little bit suspect right now but you also don't want to give the appearance that you're packing it in and bringing up you know no offense to them by the Bryce Johnson's of the world the Adam measures of the world it's that's not sustainable that they're not going to make some sort of miraculous run with with that with those guys being your death well yeah but you know if you're probably still counting on the fact that Tatiis and Bogart's are going to be back and hopefully healthy at some point good pitching can get you through a period of time during the season even when your hitting is down because good pitching beats good hitting and you still have you can win three to two games with good pitching you still have it but if you're giving up five or six runs consistently toast you don't have the offense to overcome that right now consistently but good pitching would would go a long way I think you can some maybe you solve your tatiis problem by going after more pitching and going after a little bit sooner it's like Michael says the Mets are a game and a half out you know why are they in like Jeff Pass and he didn't qualify and Ben didn't mention the qualifier when do they decide that they're ready to move if there's no reason to move Louis Severino right now then there's no reason you keep them and and try to make a run yourself so I mean again they're in New York of course of course Steve Cohen can't for two years in a row be like that's it for us I know it's end of June but we're gonna well I know we have six weeks left till the trading deadline we're done we're probably not gonna make a run I know we you know we spend a ton of money I think there's still number one in payroll yeah we're which which is does insulate Cohen from some criticism even if they aren't going after you can't say well why does this owner spend any money on the team yeah spending the most money on his team the last two seasons maybe not effectively definitely not effectively but that's more of your baseball operations issue than the ownership issue yeah and you know with the new GM in place there he's going to be able to do his thing and we'll see we'll we'll see what kind of what kind of move that is I think it is and buyers at the deadline we've seen that before if you feel like you're trading from a position of of power and depth and if the Mets feel that way be happy to take Louis Severino off your hands could use him could use him tonight you know on the bump so I don't know it remains a very interesting landscape in Major League Baseball right now because of the extra wild card because a lot of teams at least want to give the appearance Ben though no we're we're still in this thing and and again it's a fun it's a needle you have to thread if you're a GM isn't it like where you have to say I'd really love to improve our team for the future but I can't give the appearance that we're packing it in for this year because then people won't buy tickets they're not going to trust that I have the best interest in mind I mean AJ Proler has got he's got his work cut out for him again but again it this is all of his own it's all of his own doing so I think if you're the San Diego Padres and you see what 39,000 people against the Nationals on a Monday night you have no choice you have no choice and again you can still improve your team hanging on to your top two guys if those are the only untouchable guys you can improve your team bar none it's never a bad idea to make a smart deal never whether it's always a good idea whether it's one that's aimed toward the future or the present you want every deal to be a smart valued deal for your franchise you don't want to give up too much if you're acquiring a player and you want to get as much back if you're willing to deal a player so make the smart deals that are out there you know Dan says in the chat you must grow if Tatice X come back no trades needed if you told me Joe Musgrove had a strained calf and you Darvish had a tight quad blister and yeah Tatice had a you know minor ankle sprained and and Zander Bogart's had a forearm strain yes Dan I think you are absolutely right it's possible Zander Bogart's is the first one back out of it yeah absolutely not good I do feel like oh and by the way as as I need money says this bullpen needs an arm you know as well or three or three or two you know and and so you could improve your depth in other spots as well like it's just they need a lot but Tatice and Bogart some pretty confident will be back healthy at some point this season I don't know how soon it will be but before the end of the season both guys will be healthy will they be producing that again that's a mystery that's baseball but those guys will be healthy I can't say that about Joe and I'm not even sure I can say that about you Darvish at this point just too much is unknown so pitching to me is still the number one area of need for the body. Joe said yesterday before the game that he's started like the very initial stages of throwing on a field I mean he could be weeks weeks away yeah and there's just so much unknown I just it's just a weird we are one of those teams and there's a bunch of us we are one of those weird positions where you can't turn your you can't start selling guys in my opinion I mean you can't I mean what what's the what's the fan base gonna do if you're like well we could move us on Kim and Dylan Sees and I mean could you get some really nice pieces in return the answer to that question is yes on paper maybe you don't know what if someone wants to overpay I listen I do listen doesn't mean you're waving the white flag necessarily because you can make another move and get someone else yes and that we've seen that so you have to let you have to listen in this kind of market when there's so many buyers never would be strange there would have to be a lot of things happening behind the scenes that'd be tough we'll see see what happens all right that's uh that's it for tonight we'll be back tomorrow that's it for today we'll be back tomorrow day baseball in the morning yes but we'll be back in the morning to wrap up tonight's game and you know dude the discussion that we always do in the mornings for Paul Reindel for Stephen Woods I'm Ben Higgins Andy and Elston coming up next keep it right here on San Diego's number one sports station 97 three the fans how long everybody a little extra juice Benny for tonight's game right Mackenzie Gore going against uh you know the GM that traded in CJ Abrams had a big night last night for the Nationals he had the kid Jesse Winker going into the stands last night to yell at a of 66 year old man I believe who said it was Bush league that they went up and ended jerks and pro far you had the Washington Nationals broadcast talking about you know the the pottery celebration on their own home field after scoring four runs in the 10th like that's something that happens every single night so yeah man a little extra juice tonight out of pick up part any any fireworks I've been thinking about a lot this morning and I you know Mike we know we know Mackenzie Gore a little bit he's a he's a salty dude what was the story you mentioned it and I thought you said to fight his own yeah Nick Stenzel third baseman so great what happened grounder to third I don't remember the inning the situation grounder to third since El I think he does back hands it and he stops and he just kind of lollipops one over the first and it had an arc you know just and and the guy was safe he beat it out so after they got in the dugout Mackenzie Gore said something to him like hey dude what's why are you half asking that throw and since El was like I don't want to hear it from you you work every five days you know I don't want to hear a still word from you and they got after it in the dugout and they had to be separated so those kind of things happen in the during the course of a long-ass season I'm sure it seems like a sign of a potential you know a rift in the clubhouse bad things but the Nationals at least until yesterday when the hottest teams in baseball they went 11 of their previous 15 games coming into this series a lot of times those things are good for clubhouse you know you kind of get it all out you know you air it out and Nick Stenzel probably got mad because yeah he did lollipops your pitchers out there fighting for his life and you're half asking a throw from third base and a guy beats it out and yeah man you it's probably a good thing inherently Nick Stenzel won't do that again you know he's not gonna he's not gonna half ask the throw over there so I just think you know Mackenzie Gore is a really fiery competitor you know that he's a tough kid we all like Mackenzie Gore I don't think he's gonna I think he wants for him I'm gonna put myself in his shoes not that I'd ever be but for me and for you guys what would you want to do wouldn't you want to go out and shove for seven shutout innings that's what I would want to do not go out and dot jerks and pro far for being excited about hitting a a walk off you know rulebook doubles yeah that's what I would want to do is the starting pitcher but we don't know the temperature of the clubhouse and the guys from last night and maybe it carries I mean I don't know I would hope that cooler heads prevail yeah 24 hours later it's fine but if your teammates are all still pissed off like really angry and expecting something I think you got to do what you got to do I just think I think for him but I'm not I'm not advocating no I think if you're him yeah you want it you want to go out and dominate on the mound that's that's the ultimate revenge and if you're at a hundred pitches and then you throw one go ahead I think we've we've expected a few times some fireworks yeah and they haven't ever materialized so I'm not gonna not gonna expect anything to happen in the game no it's probably the closest we've been to a Donnie Brook or a Bruhaha uh this year certainly what if Adrian Morihone said anything to Jake Cronoworth about his throw in the seven inning man right three hopper to first base ended up costing the Padres the uh the run that tied the game and ended up forcing extra innings yeah you want it in listen neither someone needs to talk to Jake neither crony or hustle Kim were charged with errors no on those but I think they probably should have been and I think both of those guys would tell you yeah I need to do better on that so you want to make sure you play clean today you're up against it if you're the San Diego Padres let's not sugarcoat anything you're up against it you got out of major on the mound he has been he's been he's been pretty wild you know the the command has not necessarily been there the stuff really hasn't looked superb at all but listen you got thrown into this you're you're you're in a pinch and you need him to go out and give you everything he has don't know how well rested the bullpen is after last night either so hey man it's a recipe for disaster but I've said that before been proven at least if you're gonna use all your top guys emerge with a victory that that game could have been pretty disastrous use all your top relievers have your best pitching match up of the series and end up with a loss at the end of the day could have been really really ugly I'm curious to see what the outfield's gonna look like going forward on a day-to-day basis without Fernando Tati's junior for the next probably at least month maybe longer I don't get the sense that Bryce Johnson is your everyday option he got the the opportunity yesterday Mike Shelton talked about Tyler Way getting some at-bats in the outfield Eggie Rosario may at some point start getting some at-bats in the outfield you got to be today I would imagine well he might get some at-bats I don't know if they're ready to put him in the outfield I mean he's an infielder by trade so he's played a little did some but they said they want to work with him a little bit okay maybe they'll throw him into the fire and just just get him out there to get his bat into the lineup you know you put Peralta out there but he's not not a plus defender at this point so you have some options but what are the best ways to go forward and you consider making a move at any point I mean we're always I think they're always looking to make moves I just don't know how splashy they're going to be right now and you know I did see some sentiment online of well now the Tati's is out time to kind of not fold up the tents you know so to speak but I'm more concerned about Darvish and Musgrove and if AJ can like can even wait until closer to the trade deadline or if he has to go move make a move and get a picture sooner rather than late I just again you know starting pitchers you're not really growing on trees right now they're just not there's a couple teams that would probably be willing to deal but it's gonna cross the capital that you have I mean but do you do you don't want to trade solace or debris and and and so I just I don't know what you want to do well we've heard about Garrett Crochet I got another name for you that was brought up this morning by ESPN's Jeff Passen I'll get to that right after this check traffic on 97 through the fam so this morning ESPN's baseball insider dropped a little column basically going through each playoff contender and who would be the the top trade deadline edition for each team like realistic edition that they could go after now obviously some of these names require their teams decide that they're ready to trade players as opposed to acquire and that specifically is true with the name that Jeff Passen came up for your San Diego Padres so he said best match weakness starting pitching best match Luis Severino Padres are pot committed and they are a starter okay maybe two away from taking control of one of the NL wild card slots Severino fits almost all of their needs been very good with the 3.290 array over 90 and a third innings and 15 starts for the Mets his slider is a true out pitch a lead in shape and outcome and with San Diego's budgetary concerns he would be coming from an organization that just last year was willing to eat tens of millions of dollars when the Mets traded starters Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer the Udarvis suffering a setback and his attempt to return from the injured list Dylan Sees Michael King and Matt Walter are the only three reliable starters in San Diego's rotation getting Severino would strengthen the Padres starting group and a lot of general manager AJ Preller to hold on to his top hitting prospects catcher Ethan Salas and shortstop Leo DeVries who are the sort of return Chicago would seek if Preller went whale hunting and tried to land crochet what's he cost I mean it's you know great for what I mean he doesn't think it's one of the top guys probably Alessco and or a Snelling especially if you're gonna ask them to eat money it's just hard on the deal and you would be asking them to eat money it's just hard because you know you're one game over 500 you know the NL is a little bit suspect right now but you also don't want to give the appearance that you're packing it in and bringing up you know no offense to them by the Bryce Johnson's of the world the Adam Majors of the world it's that's not sustainable that they're not going to make some sort of miraculous run with with that with those guys being your death I think so yeah but you know if you're you're probably still counting on the fact that Tatiis and Bogart's are going to be back and hopefully healthy at some point good pitching can get you through a period of time during the season even when your hitting is down because good pitching beats good hitting and you still have you can win three to two games with good pitching you still have it but if you're giving up five or six runs consistently toast you don't have the offense to overcome that right now consistently but good pitching would would go a long way I think you can some maybe you solve your tatiis problem by going after more pitching and going after a little bit sooner it's like Michael says the Mets are a game and a half out you know why are they in like Jeff Pass and he did qualify and Ben didn't mention the qualifier when do they decide that they're ready to move if there's no reason to move Luis Severino right now then there's no reason you keep them and and try to make a run yourself so I mean again they're in New York of course of course Steve Cohen can't for two years in a row be like that's it for us I know it's end of June but we're gonna well I know we have six weeks left till the trading deadline we're done we're probably not gonna make a run I know we you know we spend a ton of money I think there's still number one in payroll um yeah we're done which which does insulate Cohen from some criticism even if they aren't going after you can't say well why does this owner spend any money on the team we're spending the most money on his team the last two seasons maybe not effectively definitely not effectively but that's more of your baseball operations issue than the ownership issue yeah and you know with the new GM in place there he's gonna be able to do his thing um and we'll see we'll we'll see what kind of what kind of move that is I think it is and buyers at the deadline we've seen that before if you feel like you're trading from a position of of power and depth and if the Mets feel that way be happy to take Luis Severino off your hands we could use him could use him tonight um you know on the bump so I don't know it remains a very interesting landscape in Major League Baseball right now because of the extra wild card because a lot of teams at least want to give the appearance Ben though no we're we're still in this thing and and again it's a fun it's a needle you have to thread if you're a GM isn't it like where you have to say I'd really love to improve our team for the future but I can't give the appearance that we're packing it in for this year because then people won't buy tickets they're not going to trust that I have the best interest in mind I mean AJ Preller has got him he's got his work cut out for him again but again this is all of his own it's all of his own doing so I think if you're the San Diego Padres and you see what 39,000 people against the nationals on a Monday night you have no choice you have no choice and again you can still improve your team hanging onto your top two guys if those are the only untouchable guys you can improve your team bar not it's never a bad idea to make a smart deal never whether it's always a good idea whether it's one that's aimed toward the future or the present you want every deal to be a smart valued deal for your franchise you don't want to give up too much if you're acquiring a player and you want to get as much back if you're willing to deal a player so make the smart deals that are out there you know Dan says in the chat you must grow if Tatisse X come back no trades needed if you told me Joe Musgrove had a strained calf and you Darvish had a tight quad blister and yeah Tatisse had a you know minor ankle sprain and and Zander Bogart's had a forearm strain yes Dan I think you are absolutely right it's possible Zander Bogart's is the first one back I don't know what it is yeah absolutely not good I do feel like oh and by the way as as i need money says this bullpen needs an arm you know as well so or three or three or two you know and and so you could improve your depth in other spots as well like it's just they need a lot to tatisse and Bogart's i'm pretty confident will be back healthy at some point this season i don't know how soon it will be but before the end of the season both guys will be healthy will they be producing that again that's a mystery that's baseball but those guys will be healthy i can't say that about joe and i'm not even sure i can say that about you Darvish at this point just too much is unknown so pitching to me is still the number one area of need for Joe said yesterday before the game that he's started like the very initial stages of throwing on a field i mean he could be weeks weeks away yeah and there's just so much unknown i just it's just a weird we are one of those teams and there's a bunch of us we are one of those weird positions where you can't turn your you can't start selling guys in my opinion i mean you can't i mean what what's the what's the fan base gonna do if you're like well we could move us on kim and dill and cease and i mean could you get some really nice pieces in return the answer to that question is yes on paper maybe you don't know what if someone wants to overpay i listen i do listen doesn't mean you're waving the white flag necessarily because you can make another move and get someone else yes and that we've seen that move so you have to let you have to listen in this kind of market when there's so many buyers the season would be strange there would have to be a lot of things happening behind the scenes it'd be tough we'll see see what happens in the night that's uh that's it for tonight uh we'll be back tomorrow that's it for today we'll be back tomorrow day baseball in the morning yes but we'll be back in the morning to wrap up tonight's game and you know dude the discussion that we always do in the mornings for paul rindall for steve at woods i'm bed higgins annie and elston coming up next keep it right here on sanny egos number one sports station 97 three the fans so long everybody now with the mlb app you can get baseball your way pick your favorite team your favorite players and get customized highlights stories and breaking news right on your home field follow the action with game 10 where 3d replays add another dimension plus notifications can keep you connected to every pinch every hit every game the 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