Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast
8am Hour - LOTS Of Padres Roster Moves + Jesse Agler Joins The Show!
Ben & Woods start the 8am hour with a little "Shoutout To His Family" after the news this morning that musician Shifty Shellshock from the band Crazy Town passed away at the age of 49. Then the guys discuss ALL of the roster / injury moves that the Padres announced yesterday prior to the game against the Nationals before we're joined by the great Jesse Agler for his weekly Tuesday appearance! Listen here!
- Duration:
- 1h 2m
- Broadcast on:
- 25 Jun 2024
- Audio Format:
- mp3
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Find your next credit card, or loan for a big purchase, and invest in your next index fund. Make smarter decisions in 2024. Follow Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast on your favorite podcast app. A very, very spicy one. Last night at Petco Park, I've been talking about it all morning. We'll continue to talk about it all morning. That's what we do here on Ben and Wood. Thanks so much for being here. We are halfway home on a Tuesday, June 25th, and I'm Woodsy. That's Paul Rindel, the executive producer, Benjamin R. Higgins, your friendly neighborhood sports anchor, joins us as well. I was watching the Stanley Cup Game 7 last night, and it was an incredible, incredible game. I've kept it on until the pottery started, but they went to commercial, and there was my beloved Ben, a little promo for you. Did you see that? Yeah, I've got the me standing in front of Petco Park. I get so handsome. You know, looking like I'm delivering some sort of sports. Yeah. In essence, they told me to stand there and just pretend like you're talking so they could get a good shot of me. That's great. They got sports of Ben Higgins. I'm like, I know that, dude. Look at you in the Stanley Cup finals, man. Did you watch something that game? I did. I watched a ton of that game. It was, I had multiple TVs going. I had the College World Series going on. I had a Tennessee Crown Champions for the first time ever, the Florida Panthers Crown Champions for the first time ever last night, winning the Stanley Cup in dramatic fashion, so it was a very busy night for me at work. Yeah, it was a busy night at home, man. Things are nuts right now. We've got camps for days, and it's just nuts. Like a summer Uber driver, dad, you know, clinic after camp after clinic. It's always fun when you book them. You're like, that's gonna be great. There's so many activities for them to do. And then you realize they're six and three. They can't take themselves. So you actually have to go and then sit and be there in the scorching heat. You're like, this is, I really, I didn't think that we didn't think this through. I really like today. I'll get out here. I gotta go to Seals Camp and watch Bo and bring Bo home from Seals Camp, then go to Frozen Robes after that for practice. It's busy. It's a busy little beaver. So dad, summer Uber is in full effect. Before we move on, I want to thank Bob Kendrick again for coming on and sharing some of his Willie Mays knowledge and stories with us. And I wanted to just say, because I saw someone pointed out in the chat when I talked about kind of being surprised by Reggie Jackson's comments. Obviously, I've seen the Jackie Robinson movies. I know how ugly it was when when the color line was broken in baseball and baseball was being integrated. I didn't expect to hear that story from Reggie Jackson though. I consider Reggie Jackson like a ballplayer of my childhood. Like a totally different era. Like, I know it wasn't perfect, but I didn't realize that even players in like as Bob said, the late 60s going into the 70s were facing such, such hatred. Bro, it's 2024. Let's not act like that's still happening. It's not, I mean, you know, it's it's definitely, I mean, that that's like stuff from like a movie, essentially, that the stories that Reggie Jackson told were incredibly moving. And I thought important for people to hear, important for me to hear, obviously, that reminds you that any progress that's made is always very slow and very difficult to get where we want to be. One of my biggest regrets that flat tire I got from Wichita for multiple reasons. But the flat tire I got driving from Wichita, Kansas City on my way to the Negro League Museum got a flat tire in the middle and middle of nowhere, Kansas, and stopped, you know, for a few hours on the side of the road. And I made it in time for the Padres Royals game, did not make it in time to go to the Negro League Museum. I had to turn around after the game and come straight back to Wichita to fly out the next day. One of my biggest regrets, man, I don't know what I'm going to get to Kansas again. You know, I have no idea. So I was really, really bummed to miss it. I was I was planning a good solid two to three hour visit. Also a question for a Pauline during that Bob Kendrick interview. Was that like what it's like working with me? What woods did to Bob multiple times jumping in and trying to interrupt him and ask a question? Because it was done. Yeah, that's what I do all the time. And I don't feel as awkward when I'm doing it. When you're doing it, I was horrified. Yeah, you know, how is that how it feels when I do it? It doesn't change in for me. So much worse. It's so much worse when you're not the person doing it. Yeah, I didn't realize that for the last six years. Now I know I can put myself in your shoes and how horrifying it is. Yeah, you know, because I was embarrassed. You get those guys. I mean, at least I didn't at least I didn't ask him about a heart attack. He didn't have you know what I mean? Like that's right. But like what kind of moron would ever do that? So Bob, how's your heart attack? That wasn't me. It was the other guy. I he has a Kate that people have a cadence and they stop and you're like, is he done? The uncomfortable silence between questions is all so you want to keep trying to keep it moving. But I different if they're in studio or even on zoom, I miss time the cadence. And it happened. It was up to midnight. Thanks to jerks and pro farce heroics. Literally up to midnight leg and beg going, I can't sleep. How am I supposed to sleep? Ambient didn't work. I'm just sitting. I fought through it. The ambient. I went through it. And now how late do you go before you're just like, I'm just going in going in early? I mean, you know, one AM is my cutoff. I've had like, I guess not insomnia, but trouble falling asleep. I mean, if I'm laying in bed from call it nine to like 11. Yeah, I might switch it up. I might go lay on the couch, change your scenery. Maybe that helps. And if it's like one AM, I'm like, I was pulling on all night. I'm just going to go. Yeah, you know, I've been here like 230 in the morning before. I mean, it just happens. We have a weird house. You know, my wife gets up early for to do whatever she does. And so I'm up early a lot. And I hate it. But last night, it was nothing other than it was nothing other than just being extremely fired up. Now I made the mistake of after the walk off going on Twitter, X, whatever. That's the mistake. Because then I saw Jesse Winker in the stands, essentially screaming at a fan. So that got me all fired up. Then I saw the Nationals, uh, what they said at the end of the game, we still have that Polly. This is after they win the game, the Nationals broadcast. We're talking about it. And I tell you what, Bob, the Nationals dugout is not thrilled with the way the jerks and pro far celebrated that walk off hit. He went right towards the Nationals dugout and started screaming at them. And ill tomorrow, Vargas, Jesse Winker came out or we stood on the warning track as the Padres were celebrating that walk off. Jerks and pro far not celebrating by looking at his teammates, instead screaming at the Nationals dugout for the intentional walk that loaded the bases, challenging him in that moment. So some trauma. Yeah, so I made the mistake of watching that. Well, then my blood pressure starts to rise. And I, I get that defensive mode of wanting to defend our guys and, and looking at, at trying to see it from their side of, of the fence. And I, I couldn't really see it because I had also watched the top of the 10th and I watched CJ Abrams all night. I watched Nick's and Zell, you know, running around the bases, screaming like he had just, we hit a walk off in the world. So he's good for you. Big, big hit. Clutch knock two out, home run, you got a three run lead. Bro, I fully understood it. And I'd imagine any time CJ Abrams comes back and does something against the Padres, it's going to feel extra good for him. You know, anytime you, you face your former organization and have a big game and he was, he was fired yesterday. He's been playing real well this year. So that's what screwed me. I need to know on a wall, I need to remember, we walk it off, just put the phone down and go to bed and try to go to sleep then or put a movie on or something. But I sat up there, stewing all night till about midnight. So don't sleep mode. I was gassed. I know I couldn't do it, man. I'm an addict. It happens. You know, you do what you do. But I was, I was all charged. I couldn't wait to get here this morning after a win like that. But yeah, man, the interesting thing is, and we'll see if anything spills over into today. You know, good night's sleep is always good for everyone. I mean, if you have an argument with your wife or your, you know, partner, whatever your teammate, give it 24 hours, see what happens, right? I don't think Jesse Winker is going to be his pissy today at 640. I don't think Mackenzie Gore or Davey Martinez or Cabert Reese or any of the guys that he just mentioned. I don't think jerks and profar is going to be as fired up today at 640 as he was last night. Right? Like 24 hours can do a lot. As we said, I, we didn't think jerks and profar really looked like he was directing much for the Nationals dug it. Now he admitted he felt disrespect. He felt disrespected by the wall, which is fine, which fires him up. Yeah, I mean, he takes that as motivation and uses that. That's great. But I didn't get the sense that he was like legitimately mad at the Washington Nationals. He was probably secretly pretty happy that he got that opportunity. He's four for four with the bases loaded this year, by the way. Yeah. And they'd all be extra base hits if he had bothered to touch second base last night as well, which he didn't. So it ended up being a walk off single instead of a double. You know, and again, you're talking about two teams that are pretty much neck and neck right now. San Diego Padres certainly cannot afford another guy to get injured. Right? I mean, wouldn't it be our luck for something to happen? Somebody goes out and pulls a hammy or something, you know, in a fight. But I will say this, man, like, if they have any issue with that celebration, that's pretty tired. That's pretty tired if they do. You know, that's a huge, huge moment in a huge situation. Again, the pitch up and in to jerks and pro far and knock them down to come through and that at bat was was pretty clutch. I don't want to see anybody hurt certainly, but I certainly don't want to roll over again for another team. If they got up, if they have a, you know, problem today and they want to go out and dot one of our players, I certainly hope that we retaliate and handle business. But, you know, I don't want to see us do anything, you know, to start and the other reason why last night's game was so important is that you don't feel as confident about today's match up with Adam Major, you know, I was, I was last week ready for him to go back and get some more work in the minor leagues. You were ready for you, Darvish, to come back. You were ready for him to go do door dash and now he's back to make a fifth start today against Mackenzie Gore, who's been solid for the Nationals all year. This is a, this is a tough matchup for the Padres. They'll need guys to come through again. They'll need some offense in this game. I, I don't anticipate Adam Major going and tossing a, you know, seven innings of shutout ball today. It's just unrealistic based on what we've seen so far. So you lose that one. Now you're putting yourself in position to lose the series. Now you have a chance to steal today's game and you can go for a sweep tomorrow in the homestand finale. Yeah, I mean, look tonight's going to be a tall order. It really is. And when Patrick Corbin, you know, holds you to five hits and, and Derek Law, I feel like Derek Law has been pitching since I was in high school. When he came out last night, I went, this guy's still around. I had no idea. It's just one of those guys that's been hanging around forever. He's only 33 years old. I looked it up because I thought this man is 46 years old. I feel like I'd been, I'd seen him forever. When those guys sit down 19 in a row on you, holy cow, man, like that needs to be addressed. That needs to be talked about. They certainly don't get a pass for that. Three runs cannot be where you take your foot off the gas against the guy like Patrick Corbin, letting him get in a groove Ben and retire. However, many he did, along with the bullpen's help, it was 19 at one point. That, that doesn't work. We got Jesse Agler coming up at the bottom of the hour. If you'd like to contribute an Incorporated word, you can submit it in our YouTube stream or via our Twitter handle at Ben and Woods. We need a vocabulary word for Jesse for tonight's broadcast when he joins us. It's 8 35 this morning. And I want to go through. We haven't really done so yet. The roster moves, what they all mean, what the Padres did yesterday, because they made a lot of them coming up on our next segment. But I know you wanted before we want to break. You had a shout out that you wanted to do here. Yeah, we need to do a shout out to his family. Saw the news come over this morning. That shifty shell did unit. If I told you shifty shell shock passed away, would you have any earthly idea? None. None whatsoever. That's the first time I've ever heard those two words put together in a sentence. Now, Paul, do you have the song? The song. I do. Okay. What if I played this for you? Anything? It's not ringing any bells yet. Nothing. Nothing. I don't think so. No. What era are we talking about here? I mean, was that early 2000s? He passed away at 49 years old. So he's our age, essentially. So our era, the era of us. Right. But musically, was he our era? Okay, he's the same age. So it was our era. It's the musical artist. Yes. He was the singer, front man for a band called Crazy Town. I had number one song. And it was in 2000, the year 2000. And passed away, 49 years old cause of death unknown. He had struggled a lot with addiction in his life and career. Just that, you know, kind of a one hit wonder band, but that song was massive, massive, massive, massive. And he passed away. You know how we do it here on Venom Woods this morning. And I really hope we can see more unity and more peace when already things are so difficult. So shout out to his family. I ran into shifty shell shock in Los Angeles. I was actually ran into it. Literally was going to see Jason Isabel play in LA and was outside the venue. And he walked by walking his dog. And I recognized it. Oh, immediately. I mean, the video, you couldn't get away from butterfly. You just couldn't get away from it. It was everywhere you went. Come, my lady. Come, come, my lady. And, and yeah, I, I didn't roast master said, I did not have the CD. I just heard the song on the radio like the rest of you. There's your old pal woods and shifty shell shock. The streets of Los Angeles. Yeah, man. It was, he was a really nice guy, super cool. And 49 years old is way, way too young, way, way too young. So rest in peace. Shout out to your family. I am sorry that I still don't really know who you are. I can't believe he's never heard that someone doesn't ring any bells. Not even, I mean, crazy town, the name, shifty shell shock. That's the song. I just must have missed that year. I guess they don't play it at sporting venues. So you're entirely not entirely just missed that year. I feel like they do. That was the main, I feel like that was the main song for the San Diego strike force. Oh, maybe. Yeah, maybe. I feel like Bert Grossman told us that, because he loved that song. So he picked it. Of course he did. So great. So, so great. All right, we'll, we'll take a quick time out when we come back, go through some of the interesting roster moves the Padres made yesterday. And then Jesse Aguiler will join us at the bottom of the hour for the Incorporator. I wonder what if he was a big crazy town fan. My guess is no, he's like me. I guess he's a hard over said. Yeah, I'll come up next after traffic here at 97.3 to fan. Today's episode is sponsored by Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast. Get your head in the financial game with smart investing and budgeting tips straight from the nerds. 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All your long Fernando Tetis Jr. thought he was dealing with a muscular problem, but it turned out it was deeper than that. And finally, they got the imaging a couple of days ago that showed the stress reaction in that leg. And, uh, Tetis spoke after the game and said, it's really bothered him since Korea and really got bad in the first series at San Francisco that first couple of weeks of the season. And he's been dealing with it ever since. It's a sharp pain. Recently, it started to like radiate. He feels it throughout his entire body, especially when accelerating and decelerating. He can kind of run, but then when he tries to slow up, it just absolutely bites him. Or when he's trying to speed up, it really like the shooting pain comes up through his leg was very hard to deal with. And ultimately, the decision was made in order to get it healthy. He's going to have to spend some time not doing all those things that he does when he plays baseball, like flying around, sprinting around the bases and playing the outfield. So no Fernando Tetis Jr. And while Mike Shilt was like, well, you know, it's probably more than 10 days. Fernando Tetis was like, no, this is a, this is definitely several weeks type recovery, certainly through the all star break. And it sounds like even possibly beyond that a little bit, if he really wants to get 100% healthy, which he will, it's something that you will recover from. Doctors say it's not no long term concerns. He just needs rest and he'll be fine. But that rest can be anywhere from six to sometimes up to 14 weeks to get it completely healthy, which is quite a bit longer than, you know, you got the indication of when the Padres first made the announcement yesterday. Man, I, yeah, I don't know what to say about it. I mean, I saw the comments yesterday, it just, you know, listen, it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like they're everyone's on the same page. You know, is that safe to say, you know, it just doesn't seem like they're on the same page. I mean, I mean, messaging wise, you know, I assume that Mike Shilt is the one who sets the page. Maybe he doesn't explain to Fernando Tetis. Hey, we don't want you to say you're going to be out for more than a few weeks, but what he did, but he did. So, you know, I mean, it was, it was pretty obvious, even with Shilt's comments that they picked this now, knowing they only have what 16 more games before the all star break, a number of off days and the all star break that, you know, hopefully you miss as few games as possible, because you've got, you know, nine of those days, you're not even playing baseball. And you can sit through those nine days plus the 16 and get at least four weeks right there with only missing basically, you know, two and a half weeks worth of games. Yeah, the, the, the comment he made before the game, Shilt, I mean, he said, the day before we got the absolute diagnosis, he went first to home with some of the most beautiful artistic athletic movements, you'll see, he looked like Tottie, he looked like Ben or me running the bases that night. Remember that? Yeah, the ball, he looked bad when he slowed down at the end, he looked like he was an agony. Bro, when he goes fast, he says he's okay. It's, it's when he's decelerating or accelerating that it's really the hard part. And he can hit the, obviously, he was, he was on fire at the plate. Yeah, he can hit no problem. It's just the running that is what really caused me. So when, you know, Mike Shilt said he could have pinched hit, he can like Kurt Gibson, he could have limped, gone up there, he can swing. You just don't want him necessarily then having to run around the bases. Can you do the whole like adult league runner, non runner, just have someone sprinting out of the, out of the box for him? You're looking at one. No, you can't, they can't sprint out of the box for you. But once you get to the base, you can time, non runner, you walk around. I've seen where they have a line where someone stands there. Oh, they've fantasy, they do that. If they did that, where you just have someone standing there. Yeah. And as soon as he swings the bat, the other person then runs turt to first base. Yeah. They won't, they won't do that. Why did we do that? Because somebody was injured injury injury. Yeah, you can't do that in the big or we hadn't. Girl on our team was a paraplegic. Yeah, she had she, she had one leg. So, but she had it. And someone else ran. Yeah. Can we do that for Fernando Tetis Jr? It's not not allowed. It's good for the game though to keep the stars in the game. They should consider amending the rules to keep them out there as much as possible. I mean, I'm, I'm here for, I'm here for the non runner rule all day. The last out then has to go run for you. I'm all about it. I think it's great. But no, I, it just, you know, listen, no team is completely forthright when it comes to injuries. I, I've, you know, kind of gotten used to this. Again, it's one of those things for me. And I'm just speaking for myself. When I see the injury stuff come out, I'm like, all right, I mean, well, onward and upward. I mean, what are you going to do? What can I do about it? There's nothing I can do. I, I can't even be mad. I can't, you know, lament it. I can't point fingers. I just go, okay, next man up, you know, we're going to have to figure out a way to win ball games. And luckily they were able to last night. You wonder how long that luck's going to hold up, though, you know, and they're going to miss him at some point. There's a game where other guys won't come through that he would have come through if he had been there. That's inevitable. Anytime you lose, you know, your best player, one of your best players, if not your best player, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to, it's going to sting a little bit, but it's not impossible, you know, it's not impossible to go out and win baseball games without them. They've done it before. They've done it to great success without Fernando Tetis Jr. before. It's not something I want to get used to though. So him, him being out potentially past the all-star break had stings a little bit. I'll also find out you, Darvish is not coming back today. We talked about that a little bit earlier. So at a measure is coming back and we'll get it on the start. That was concerning as well. Of course. It was elbow. Yeah, elbow inflammation. So we'll see. You know, he said he was fine after his last start, but obviously this popped up between the rehab start and now. So no U-Darvish today. And then Jose Azocar was sent down to AAA as well, according to Mike Schilt to get some at bats and work on his game with Bryce Johnson who played last night. I know very little about Bryce Johnson. Not, he's been in the big leagues before, but very limited experience. And then Aggie is back as well and they're going to try to work Aggie in the outfield a little bit to try to get his bat in the lineup, especially against left-handers since he is one of the guys from the right side of the plate who hits lefty as well, something the Padres don't do well. I think you see Aggie today certainly against Mackenzie Gore. No question about it. Don't know where he's going to play. DH possibly. But like, you know, Jerkson's a decent DH candidate as well. There's, again, guys are banged up playing through stuff. So and Johnny burrito sent down to work on becoming a starter and stretching out. I think that makes a lot of sense. It makes some sense. I mean, he's not providing a ton of value as the last guy essentially in the bullpen, but you need starting depth. And if you can provide some of it, I think that's a more valuable use for Johnny burrito right now. All right, we'll come back. Jesse Agler will join us. He got to call the walk off last night voice to the Padres, the Incorporated all coming up next year with Ben Woods, a 97 through the fan. Let's get up and ask Polly how much time are we left in the brain? Because he runs out of the bathroom and all goes zero. Zero. We are literally coming back right now. We are coming back now. We've got Jesse to talk to. Got to get an Incorporated to get to. If you can't hold it for the entire segment, I don't know what to tell you. I don't have a choice at this point. You can go right now and we can just just vamp until it's time. But yeah, we're back and we're getting ready for Jesse Agler. He's going to be with us right after a check of traffic here on 97 3 the fan. I probably says Jesse's going to call in in just one second here. As a play by play guy, walkoffs are your chance to have signature moments. You know, those are the kind of calls that get replayed into the future. Last year, Jesse had almost no chances to do it. You're a whole summer long with two walkoffs the entire year. And now what potters for in the last seven home games. They've had a walkoff ending three on home runs, three straight on home runs. And then of course, last night and extra innings, there's just been a lot more drama to the baseball season this year. Last year was shockingly, at least positive drama free for the San Diego Padres. Yeah, shockingly shockingly. This year, historically almost this year, it's been a different story for the San Diego Padres. And and there has been moments. There's been several memorable, significant moments, you know, that that if it plays already and we're just barely halfway through the season, all he's working on getting Jesse on the line. What's going right now? But people in the chat, he's not going to say Hawk to. Okay, like, they're like, I'll donate money to the Peter Sideler fund. You should do that anyway. Number one, he's a professional broadcaster. He's not going to get on the air tonight and incorporate Hawk to into the into the broadcast. We get in trouble, I think. We have a great word for him. We do, but that's not it. That's actually two words. So yes, you're right. This doesn't even work. It's a three total different words. All right. Looks like we've got him now. Let's go out to Jesse Agler who joins us right now after last night's seven to six, 10 inning victory over the Washington Nationals. Jesse, good morning to you. Good morning, guys. How are you? We're doing well. I know the answer to this question. I'm going to ask you anyway. When you were in college, do you ever pull an all nighter like studying when you were at University of Miami? Oh, not studying. Listen to him. Listen to him not studying. What a legend that answer was. Is he coming in? OK, we got him. Did you see there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You cut now. No, it's not working. Try it again, Paul. Jesse, let me try calling you back in this. Jesse is like joins us from the worst cell phone reception. Yeah, it's fine. Orange County a few weeks ago was bad. No, it's bad again today. Yeah. It's all right. Why did you think they'd eat? Did you think he had or had not done it? No, I thought he absolutely had studied like staying up all night writing a paper because why? Well, so because I feel like everybody pulls one or two. I never did one. Well, you didn't? No, never. So when you actually do the work and prepare, you don't have to do an all nighter at any point. If you get rest before the exam, you don't have to stay up all night preparing. You feel good. You go to bed at a reasonable hour. That's the way it should be done once. I mean, I was an English major with four senior level English classes. I had 20 page papers. Dude, you can't. There's not enough time. Now, I pushed all those until my last year, right? So I had a big load and I had to manage class load. And so sometimes you have to stay up all night writing papers. What I want to ask him, though, so you don't even know it. Paul, you pulled an all nighter, right? All the time. All the time. All the time. Do you remember that feeling that you had when you finished your test, your final turn in your paper, whatever, when you're walking back to your apartment in your car and you're like, you're in a day like in a days in a trance. That's this team feels like it's on one long all nighter right now for the last week. Like they have their heads have to be spinning, you know, with with all the with all the emotion with all the the grinding that they've done, you can't grind that much and not be exhausted. And that's what I want to ask Jesse Agler about. OK, I can see your at least comparison there. Paul, you know what I'm talking about. Remember that feeling? You see, I was a procrastinator. I would wait in the last minute and you know, like cram, you walk outside the sun's blazing, you have not slept, you turned in your, you did your final and you're walking to your car and you're like, strangely, I feel very alive right now. I feel very alive. My emotions are at the the skin. You know, I can feel my nerves. Matter I'll be done at like four a.m. with my paper, whatever. And I clean the kitchen, deal a workout and do whatever I know it's funny because people think that people who don't procrastinate or somehow doing it because they're just very responsible human beings. I don't do it because I hate the feeling of feeling like I'm not going to get something done in time. It's so stressful when I go down to the last minute. I don't ever want to put myself in that situation. I want to always know that if worse comes to worse, I have those last few hours that I have a cushion that I don't need. But if I needed it, it's there. It's always there in reserve. So that's why I don't put things off until the last possible second. But you know what's weird about me is that I'll be two hours early for stuff, right? Which is the the deficit of procrastination, like, psychically early. But when it comes to, hey, I got a paper do or I got this test. Now I need the pressure sometimes to like make me perform. See, now I would never want to be two hours early. I value efficiency. Right. So much. I feel like, okay, I'm not planning my day very well if I get somewhere two hours in advance. My whole point of that Jesse was asking you, you know, when you pull an all night or if you turn in a paper or, you know, do, you know, do your final, that feeling you had kind of walk into your car where your nerves are exposed and you're like, man, this is nuts. Like sleep deprivation. I feel like that's what the potteries are going through right now with all this grinding that they're doing to stay one game over 500. It's been pretty remarkable. Yeah, I mean, they are a resilient team. And I think that's been pretty apparent early on. And look, you know, a lot of teams say that. But I think particularly after last year and kind of the way everything went down and how much they struggled in one run games and extra inning games and all that, it was really important to try and establish that early this season. And they did that. You know, I mean, they came out out of the shoe with a couple of really big comebacks in April. They had the crazy game against the Dodgers in Seoul where everybody was hitting. And it just kind of felt, you know, coming out of that like, all right, you know, this is a different team. And I think that was a nice way to sort of, you know, turn the page from last year because, and look, as we know, every team is different year to year. Like the reality is last year, when it comes to that kind of stuff, doesn't matter. And you can back that up with a statistical argument, you know, RSP last year is no bearing on RSP this year. So we all kind of thought, all right, it should be better this year, but to sort of like psychologically get over the hump and be able to have the success that they had earlier this season. And for I think Mike Chilton talked about it as much as he's talked about it and to make a point about it as much as he's made a point about it really helped, you know, this 2020 for team say, all right, last year is last year. We're all about the windshield and not the rearview mirror. But we also talked earlier about it's kind of a catch 22 that there's nothing you can necessarily do. You have to experience some success to build that positive feeling. And last year's team just never, never got to experience it. So of course, they never were able to really build some of those feelings and, you know, you know, good vibes going forward because it just didn't happen for them. The crazy thing is last year, end of the year, right? They have like their good run, you know, they win five in a row or whatever. At the end of the season, they win an extra inning game in San Francisco than another one game, 162. And all of us myself included kind of wrote that off as like, all right, well, it didn't matter because, you know, they were essentially all but eliminated for most of that run. And they were eliminated for a good chunk of it at the end. So it was kind of like, you know, all right, throw it away. It doesn't really mean anything. And, you know, I made note in spring training a couple of times that last year, this team with jerks and pro far on the roster at the end of the season went 16 and five. And I kind of said it like tongue in cheek during the spring training broadcasts because like, hey, that's kind of cool, right? And there's like a story there, but we all know better. It couldn't have just been because jerks and pro far showed up. That's not why they won 16 out of their last 21 games last year. But you know, kind of what you're saying, there is a different vibe. And it's very hard to say he is at a huge part of that. And look, you're absolutely right. You have to go out and get the hits. You have to get out and do the thing. But you know, sometimes there are guys, you know, that make a big difference, you know, intangible and in intangible ways. And it's getting harder and harder to think the jerks and pro far is not one of the best examples of that when it comes to this pottery team in this pottery clubhouse. And so I'm loving the attention. He's getting nationally. I'm loving that he's leading the way and all star balloting because it is so deserved, you know, from the wrong numbers standpoint and what he's produced this year from the way he's sort of battling through this knee situation to obviously the impact, which I think is gigantic that he's had on this team. No question about it. Talking to Jesse Agler, voice of the Padres, you can hear him tonight 97 3 the fan along with Tony Gwen Jr. I, you know, another one is Jackson Merrill being 21 years old. And now honestly, like he's a leader. And we talked about the message that you're hearing coming out of there. You know, last year's message was essentially, Oh, don't worry. Don't worry. We'll get there. We'll be where we need to be. This year's message is don't mess with us. We're a bunch of effing ballers. They've said it. They've called themselves ballers so many times that I'm like, this, they're act, they actually believe this. And when you watch them play, yeah, man, they have those games where you're like, Oh man, who wants to face these guys? They're just relentless. They don't quit. It's pretty apparent that Jackson Merrill is another one of those guys in that clubhouse at 21 first taste of the big leagues. And now is, you know, a regular that people are like, should we extend him another 12 years? It's, it's been pretty remarkable. Yeah, I don't think there's any reason I've extension talks for a lot of like kind of obvious logistical reasons. But he's playing his ass off. And he's, I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying watching Jackson Merrill, like way more than I expected, you know, just sort of the natural art. He's 20 at the beginning of spring training. He turns 21. You know, let's not expect too much, you know, let's hope for the best. But I mean, he's exceeded every expectation I've had in every way. And he is a great kid. And he's a dog, as you're talking about, man, he's, he's, he's up on the top railing of the dugout. He's intense. And I think that whole thing goes to a conversation about roster construction that sometimes gets a little bit put off to the side. Usually when we're talking about roster construction, we're talking left, right, we're talking power, contact, we're talking, whatever. But like, there is something I believe when it comes to roster construction that should involve personality. And you know, kind of having not necessarily just the right mix of guys, because that's a little bit difficult, but a mix of guys who have different kinds of like edges to them. You know, I think everybody understands the way that, you know, a team will sometimes take on the personality of its leadership and how certain guys will, you know, follow other guys. And that can be good and the person and the situation. You know, sometimes you need personality A, sometimes you need personality B, sometimes you need personality Y. And that's the good thing is you've got different sort of like versions of that in the Padre clubhouse. And I'm not suggesting like Jackson Merrill is leading the way at 21 years old. But I tell you what, the energy that he brings, the intensity that he brings, the ability that he brings, it's all contagious. And all that stuff matters. And that can get other guys riled up in a good way. He has been a critical piece to the success this team has had very similar to profile, right? With like kind of that, you know, high energy intensity and attitude, you know, jerks and always looking to create a chip on his shoulder over something. And it helps him. He's one of those guys. And it is really, really fun to watch. Let me say this about the 20 2014. And I know everybody in town knows this, because people have been showing up like crazy, not supposed to have 39,000 on a Monday against the national. Okay, like it's incredible every single night out there. But this is a very watchable baseball team, not only because of like the comebacks and the sort of you feel like they're never out of it thing, but the energy and the excitement that those guys play with. And on top of that, like they don't strike out anymore. It's remarkable. This is a team that struck out like every other team, basically a ton, you know, the last couple of years. And it's like all of a sudden the switch got flipped this season. They're putting the ball in play. They're just a more entertaining team to observe than they've been. Really, I think at any time since I've been here, which is saying something because there's been some cool teams. But this year's team is so fun to watch. And they're just kind of doing it a little bit differently than so many of the other really good teams. Top batting average in baseball will leave the league and bunt hits as well. And they hit home runs. So they can do it in lots of different ways that is entertaining. You're absolutely righteous. And you mentioned Jerkson's, you know, motivation and the the near hit by pitch, the intentional walk to put him up. And he talked about it after the game. Now, do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you were kind of hearing from the Washington Nationals? Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Excuse me. Washington National Center dugout at the end of the game. Wow. That was an old timer. You okay over there? We don't know. I haven't quite been the same since our golf term, actually. He's dying. How'd you play? How'd we do? We didn't play at all. We didn't. We just tired hands kissing babies, buddy. That's nice. Congrats. Good job. Thank you. Was our question there? Well, I didn't expect any fireworks tonight. No, you know, I mean, like, no, I mean, you never know. But I mean, Mackenzie is fiery. You know, remember that. He tried to fight his third baseman in the dugout a couple weeks ago. He's on the mound for the net. So he definitely has had times and he's admitted to this, you know, kind of what his emotions, you know, get to him, but he's he's a pro. Like, I don't know. I mean, what are you guys expecting? Like, what am I missing here? I just I don't know. I mean, the way the Nationals TV broadcasters were describing the reaction from guys like Jesse Winkert or Winkert and Cabert Ruiz. They were really unhappy with jerks in celebration after the game. Oh, I mean, I don't know that that like, I think we're at the point in baseball now where, you know, you get to walk off when you got to expect all kinds of craziness. And if the guy gets knocked on his backside, you know, what is it two pitches before the game winning hit, you know, he's probably going to be a little bit fucked up in that moment. You never know in baseball, I don't have a great sense of like how the gnats handle stuff. We haven't seen them since last summer. So, you know, maybe that is kind of the way they like to go about business. But I wouldn't think, you know, there's a reason for it. Look, they're a team like the Padres who are, you know, very much in this, you know, early season playoff conversation. If I'm the Washington Nationals, I'm not trying to get caught up in something like that. Yeah. You know, I'm trying to win another game or two here, because all of these games against these teams that could be in the wildcard match, really important. I remember tiebreakers now head to head. So, the three games that they're playing here, the three games that they'll play in Washington after the all-star break, you know, could be if the gnats hang around the playoff picture all summer long, you know, those could end up being like critically important games for both of these teams. So, that's my perspective. It would be like, hey, you know, worried about trying to win a game, not, you know, being upset that somebody was happy that they won one. We got a little behind on the technical difficulties. So, let's get quickly to the Incorporated word for today. Paulie's got it for you here, Jesse. Bit of a whack. Bit of a whack. You've probably heard that before, right? Let's get up and ask Paulie. How much time are we left in the brain? Because he runs out of the bathroom and Paul goes zero. Zero. We are literally getting back right now. We are coming back now. We've got Jesse to talk to. Got to get an Incorporated to get to. If you can't hold it for the entire segment, I don't know what to tell you. I don't have a choice at this point. You can go right now and we can just, uh, just vamp until it's time. But, uh, yeah, we're back and we're getting ready for Jesse Aguilar. He's going to be with us right after a check of traffic here on 97-3 the fan. Paulie says Jesse's going to call in in just one second here. Um, as a play-by-play guy, walk-offs are your chance to have signature moments. You know, those are the kind of calls that get replayed into the future. Last year, Jesse had almost no chances to do it. You're a whole summer long with two walk-offs the entire year. And now what potter is for in the last seven home games. They've had a walk-off ending three on home runs, three straight on home runs. And then of course last night in extra innings, there's just been a lot more drama to the baseball season this year. Last year was shockingly, at least positive drama free for the San Diego Padres. Yeah, shockingly, shockingly, this year historically almost this year. It's been a different story for the San Diego Padres and there has been moments. There's been several memorable significant moments, uh, you know, that that if it plays already and we're just barely halfway through the season. Paulie's working on getting Jesse on the line right now, but people in the chat, he's not going to say Hock Toa, okay? Like they're like, I'll donate money to the Peter Sideler Fund. You should do that anyway. Number one, he's a professional broadcaster. He's not going to get on the air tonight and incorporate Hock Toa into the into the bronchi. We get in trouble, I think we have a great word for him. We do, but that's not it. That's actually two words. So yes, you're right. This is even worth two total different words. All right, looks like we've got him now. Let's go out to Jesse Aguiler who joins us right now after last night's seven to six 10 inning victory over the Washington Nationals. Jesse, good morning to you. Good morning guys. How are you? We're doing well. I know the answer to this question. I'm going to ask you it anyway. When you were in college, do you ever pull an all nighter like studying when you were at University of Miami? No, no, not studying. Listen to him. Listen to him not studying. What a legend that answer was. Is he coming in? Okay, we got him. Jesse there. Oh, yeah, you cut now. You're cutting out a little bit. Try it again, Paul. Jesse, let me try calling you back. Jesse is like joins us from the worst cell phone reception. Yeah, it's fine. Orange County a few weeks ago was bad. Now it's it's bad again today. Yeah, it's all right. Why did you think they'd eat? Did you think he had or had not done it? No, I thought he absolutely had studied like staying up all night writing a paper because why? Well, so because I feel like everybody pulls one or two. I never did one. Well, you didn't? No, never. So when you actually do the work in a pair, you don't have to do an all nighter at any point. You get rest before the exam. You don't have to stay up all night preparing. You feel good. You go to bed in a reasonable hour. That's the way it should be done once. I mean, I was an English major with four senior level English classes. I had 20 page papers. Dude, you can't there's not enough time. Now I pushed all those to my last year, right? So I had a big load and I had to manage class said load. And so sometimes you have to stay up all night writing papers. What I want to ask him though. So you don't even know it. Paul, you pulled an all nighter, right? All the time. All the time. Do you remember that feeling that you had when you finished your test, your final turn in your paper, whatever, when you're walking back to your apartment or your car and you're like, you're in a day like in a days in a trance. That's this team feels like it's on one long all nighter right now for the last week. Like they have their heads have to be spinning, you know, with with all the with all the emotion with all the the grinding that they've done. You can't grind that much and not be exhausted. And that's what I want to ask Jesse Agler about. Okay, I can see your at least, um, comparison there. Paul, you know what I'm talking about. Remember that feeling? You're you see, I was a procrastinator. I would wait in the last minute and you know, like cram, you walk outside, the sun's blazing, you have not slept, you turned in your, you did your final and you're walking to your car and you're like, strangely, I feel very alive right now. I feel very alive. My emotions are at the the skin. You know, I can feel my nerves matter. I'll be done at like four a.m. with my paper when I clean the kitchen kitchen deal or work out into whatever I know it's funny because people think that people who don't procrastinate or somehow doing it because they're just very responsible human beings. I don't do it because I hate the feeling of feeling like I'm not going to get something done in time. It's so stressful when I go down to the last minute. I don't ever want to put myself in that situation. I want to always know that if worse comes to worse, I have those last few hours that I have a cushion that I don't need. But if I needed it, it's there. It's always there in reserve. So that's why I don't put things off until the last possible second. You know what's weird about me is that I'll be two hours early for stuff, right? Which is the definition of procrastination, like, psychotically early. But when it comes to, hey, I got a paper due or I got this test. Now I need the pressure sometimes to make me perform. See, now I would never want to be two hours early. I value efficiency. Right. So much. And I feel like, okay, I'm not planning my day very well if I get somewhere two hours in advance. We got my whole point of that, Jesse, was asking you, you know, when you pull an all night or if you turn in a paper or, you know, do a, you know, do your final, that feeling you had kind of walk into your car where your nerves are exposed and you're like, man, this is nuts. Like sleep deprivation. I feel like that's what the potteries are going through right now with all this grinding that they're doing to stay one game over 500. It's been pretty remarkable. Yeah, I mean, they are a resilient team. And I think that's been pretty apparent early on and look, you know, a lot of teams say that. But I think particularly after last year and kind of the way everything went down and how much they struggled in one run games and extra inning games and all that, it was really important to try and establish that early this season. And they did that. You know, I mean, they came out out of the shoe with a couple of really big comebacks in April. They had the crazy game against the Dodgers in Seoul where everybody was hitting. And it just kind of felt, you know, coming out of that, like, all right, you know, this is a different team. And I think it was a nice way to sort of, you know, turn the page from last year because, and look, as we know, every team is different year to year, like the reality is last year when it comes to that kind of stuff doesn't matter. And you can back that up with a statistical argument, you know, RSP last year is no bearing on RSP this year. So we all kind of thought, all right, it should be better this year, but to sort of like psychologically get over the hump and be able to have the success that they had earlier this season. And for, I think Mike Schiltz to talk about it as much as he's talked about it and to make a point about it as much as he's made a point about it really helped, you know, this 2020 for team say, all right, last year is last year. We're all about the windshield and not the rearview mirror. But we also talked earlier about it's kind of a catch 22 that there's nothing you can necessarily do. You have to experience some success to build that positive feeling. And last year's team just never, never got to experience it. So of course they never were able to really build some of those feelings and, you know, you know, good vibes going forward because it just didn't happen for them. The crazy thing is last year, end of the year, right? They have like their good run, you know, they win five in a row or whatever at the end of the season, they win an extra inning game in San Francisco than another one game, 162. And all of us myself included kind of wrote that off as like, all right, well, it didn't matter because, you know, they were essentially all but eliminated for most of that run. And they were eliminated for a good chunk of it at the end. So it was kind of like, you know, all right, throw it away. It doesn't really mean anything. And, you know, I made note in spring training a couple of times that last year, this team with jerks and pro far on the roster at the end of the season went 16 and five. And I kind of said it like tongue in cheek during the spring training broadcasts, because like, hey, that's kind of cool, right? And there's like a story there. But we all know better. It couldn't have just been because jerks and pro far showed up. That's not why they won 16 out of their last 21 games last year. But you know, kind of what you're saying, there is a different vibe. And it's very hard to say he is at a huge part of that. And look, you're absolutely right. You have to go out and get the hits. You have to get out and do the thing. But you know, sometimes there are guys, you know, that make a big difference, you know, intangible and in intangible ways. And it's getting harder and harder to think the jerks and pro far is not one of the best examples of that when it comes to this Padre team and this Padre clubhouse. And so I'm loving the attention. He's getting nationally. I'm loving that he's leading the way and all start balloting because it is so deserved, you know, from the raw numbers standpoint and what he's produced this year from the way he's sort of battling through this knee situation to obviously the impact, which I think is gigantic that he's had on this team. No question about it. Talking to Jesse Agler, voice of the Padres, you can hear him tonight, 97 three the fan along with Tony Gwen Jr. I, you know, another one is Jackson Merrill being 21 years old. And now honestly, like he's a leader. And we talked about the message that you're hearing coming out of there. You know, last year's message was essentially, Oh, don't worry, don't worry. We'll get there. We'll be where we need to be. This year's message is don't mess with us. We're a bunch of effing ballers. They've said it. They've called themselves ballers so many times that I'm like this, they're act. They actually believe this. And when you watch them play, yeah, man, they have those games where you're like, oh man, who wants to face these guys? They just relentless. They don't quit. It's pretty apparent that Jackson Merrill is another one of those guys in that clubhouse at 21 first taste of the big leagues. And now is, you know, a regular that people are like, should we extend him another 12 years? It's, it's been pretty remarkable. Yeah, I don't think there's any reason I've extension talks for a lot of like kind of obvious logistical reasons. But he's playing his ass off. And he's, I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying watching Jackson Merrill, like way more than I expected, you know, just sort of the natural art. He's 20 at the beginning of spring training. He turns 21. You know, let's not expect too much, you know, let's hope for the best. But I mean, he's exceeded every expectation I've had in every way. And he is a great kid. And he's a dog as you're talking about. And he's, he's, he's up on the top railing of the dugout. He's intense. And I think that whole thing goes to a conversation about roster construction that sometimes gets a little bit put off to the side. Usually when we're talking about roster construction, we're talking left, right, we're talking power, contact, we're talking, whatever. But like, there is something I believe when it comes to roster construction that should involve personality. And you know, kind of having not necessarily just the right mix of guys, because that's a little bit difficult, but a mix of guys who have different kinds of like edges to them. You know, I think everybody understands the way that, you know, a team will sometimes take on the personality of its leadership and how certain guys will, you know, follow other guys. And that can be good and the person and the situation. You know, sometimes you need personality A, sometimes you need personality B, sometimes you need personality Y. And that's the good thing is you've got different sort of like versions of that in the Padre clubhouse. And I'm not suggesting like Jackson Merrill is leading the way at 21 years old. But I tell you what, the energy that he brings, the intensity that he brings, the ability that he brings, it's all contagious. And all that stuff matters. And that can get other guys riled up in a good way. He has been a critical piece to the success this team has had. Very similar to profile, right? With like kind of that, you know, high energy intensity and attitude, you know, jerks and always looking to create a chip on his shoulder over something. And it helps him. He's one of those guys. And it is really, really fun to watch. Let me say this about the 20 2014. And I know everybody in town knows this, because people have been showing up like crazy, not supposed to have 39,000 on a Monday against the national. Okay, like it's incredible every single night out there. But this is a very watchable baseball team, not only because of like the comebacks and the sort of you feel like they're never out of it thing, but the energy and the excitement that those guys play with. And on top of that, like they don't strike out anymore. It's remarkable. This is a team that struck out like every other team, basically a ton, you know, the last couple of years. And it's like all of a sudden the switch got flipped this season. They're putting the ball in play. They're just a more entertaining team to observe than they've been really, I think at any time since I've been here, which is saying something because there's been some cool teams. But this year's team is so fun to watch. And they're just kind of doing it a little bit differently than so many of the other really good teams. Top batting average in baseball will leave the league and bunt hits as well. And they hit home runs so they can do it in lots of different ways that is entertaining. You're absolutely right, Jesse. You mentioned Jerkson's, you know, motivation and the near hit by pitch, the intentional walk to put them up. And he talked about it after the game. Now, do you expect any fireworks tonight after what you were kind of hearing from the Washington Nationals? Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Excuse me. Washington National League dugout at the end of the game. Wow. That was an all timer. You okay over there? We don't know. I haven't quite been the same since our golf tournament. Honestly, he's dying. How'd you play? I do. We didn't play at all. We didn't. We just came. Yeah, tired, kicking hands, kissing babies, buddy. That's nice. Congrats. Good job. Thank you. Was there a question there? Well, does he expect any fireworks tonight? Oh, yeah. I mean, like, no, I mean, you never know. But I mean, Mackenzie is fiery. You know, remember that. He tried to fight his third baseman in the dugout a couple weeks ago. He's on the mountain for the Nat. So he definitely has had times and he's admitted to this, you know, kind of what his emotions, you know, get to him, but he's he's a pro. Like, I don't know. I mean, what are you guys expecting? Like, what am I missing here? I just, I don't know. I mean, the way the Nationals TV broadcasters were describing the reaction from guys like Jesse Winkert or Winkert and Cabert Ruiz. They were really unhappy with jerks in celebration after the game. Oh, I mean, I don't know that that like, I think we're at the point in baseball now where, you know, you get to walk up when you got to expect all kinds of craziness. And if the guy gets knocked on his backside, you know, what is it two pitches before the game winning hit, you know, he's probably going to be a little bit worried up in that moment. You never know in baseball, I don't have a great sense of like how the Nat's handle stuff. We haven't seen them since last summer. So, you know, maybe that is kind of the way they like to go about business. But I wouldn't think, you know, there's a reason for it. Look, they're a team like the Padres who are, you know, very much in this, you know, early season playoff conversation. If I'm the Washington Nationals, I'm not trying to get caught up in something like that. You know, I'm trying to win another game or two here, because all of these games against these teams that could be in the wild card match, really important. I remember tiebreakers now head to head. So the three games that they're playing here, the three games that they'll play in Washington after the all-star break, you know, could be if the Nat's hang around the playoff picture all summer long, you know, those could end up being like critically important games for both of these teams. So that's my perspective. It would be like, hey, you got to, you know, worry about trying to win a game, not, you know, being upset that somebody was happy that they won one. We got a little behind on the technical difficulties. So let's get quickly to the Incorporated word for today. Pauli's got it for you here, Jesse, blah, blah, blah. You probably heard that before, right? Oh, yeah, every day. Yeah, every day, every day. Easy one. Bivouac is a temporary encampment without tents or cover used by usually soldiers or mountaineers, a bivouac. Yeah. Bivouac. You've got a lot of temporary shelters out on a baseball field. That should be no problem for you tonight. Jesse, good luck with that. I've got I've got one in my head. And yeah, we'll see what we can do. All right. Thanks, buddy. Listen tonight, 641st pitch with Tony Gwen, Jr. 540 Ecowater, SoCal pregame show. Thank you, Jesse. Jesse Acton. Now we got him nice and clear by the end there. Let's let's remember whatever that took to get him sounding that good in our in our Incorporated segment. What happened to you? I have no idea. Can we? No idea. I felt like I had some nut skin, but I haven't eaten any nuts in my throat. Final report coming up. Today's episode is sponsored by Nerd Wallet Smart Money Podcast, ready to expand your financial game. 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