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And Tony, it's been a couple of days. But this is not the passing of a legend. This is a passing of something even more than that. Willie Mays just, there's specialness in just the very name Willie Mays. It brings a spark to everybody. And nothing says baseball like Willie Mays and his passing. I'm sure the Padres will make mention of it before the game tonight as they get back home. Yeah, there was a picture kind of going around of Martin Luther King meeting Willie Mays. Looked like for the first time. And you talked about, you just been saying how he was more than like a legend, right? And you could see that in Martin Luther King's face as he's meeting him for the first time. Was one of like, wow, that's Willie Mays right then, you know? Imagine Martin Luther King thinking that about anyone. Right, exactly. And you know, that just kind of, you know, speaks to the way. I mean, listen, Dave Fleming is far removed from Willie Mays time of playing. Right. But you see the still the emotion that he had in trying to deliver the news that Willie Mays has passed away. And I think you see it in so many different generations. Again, this is another, you know, why Willie Mays is different. I mean, that touched obviously the remaining players that are still around from his generation, the generation after. So you're talking like the Aussie Smiths, the Eddie Murray's of the world, the generation after that. So now you're talking the Barry Bonds, the King Griffey's, then the generation after that. You're talking the C.C. Sebathe as you're talking, you know, guys who played in my era. And the generation after that, the guys who are playing now, look, that's a, look how long that stretches in terms of how many generations of baseball players he's touched. And so obviously, this is a void that can't be replaced. Yeah, very well said Tony. I mean, it's been 50 years since Willie Mays suited up and played in a, in a big league ballgame, 1973, the world series. And he was a shell of himself playing for the New York Mets. And, you know, that's a memory that a lot of people have, unfortunately, because it was color television and, you know, people got a really a chance to see, but that wasn't Willie Mays. That was just the very tail end of it. I mean, his career started in 1951 and, you know, everything that he accomplished has been gone over and over. I'm curious, did you ever get a chance to, I mean, I never got a chance to be in a room with Willie Mays. I don't know, did you, Tony, or did your dad, I imagine your dad did. I got to be in the same room as Willie Mays a couple of times. I know my dad did. And, you know, now they can have many more conversations together. But, you know, it's just, it's one of those things that, I mean, I think we all knew, you know, Willie was getting older, but it just never feels like that's, that day's ever going to come. And then when it comes, I mean, when I heard the news, like, instant sadness came, came across my, you know, my chest. And, you know, I think that's how all the baseball is filling right now. You know, Tony, you were the one several years ago that opened my eyes to this way of thinking. And what I'm talking about is, I believe for the better part of my life, most people felt that Babe Ruth was the greatest baseball player of all time. He hit, he pitched, he was the very sport, the very nature of the sport. But I think your way of explaining to all of us that Babe Ruth did not play in an integrated league. And it's something that needs to be, you know, worked into the equation. You know, black players were not allowed to play baseball when Babe Ruth played. Now, when Willie Mays came in, the sport had just been integrated a few years earlier. And I think now that we all take everything into account, it seems like the torches passed to a certain extent. I don't know anybody who really doesn't go out and say that they believe Willie Mays is the greatest player of all time. He's a five tool player. The only reason Willie Mays is a five tool player is because they don't have six tools. Right? I mean, if they, if there was something else about a baseball player, he had it, you know, whether it was instinctual ability to, you know, to run the bases the way he did the way he was able to get a break on the ball. He didn't have any analytics to line him up in center field when a batter came up. He just knew instinctually where to be. And if he wasn't in the right spot, he ran the ball down anywhere. Anyway, you know, so it's really difficult for us to to couch, you know, exactly how great he was. There's not enough footage of him, unfortunately, for us to see. But I think he goes down now as the greatest ever, Tony. Oh, and by the way, my man missed a whole year and some change, almost two years, right, for the war. Disimagine what his numbers would have looked like at that point, you know, if he had had the opportunity to keep going. Yeah, no, I mean, I think, you know, in terms of being, you know, considered the greatest player. I mean, his is a valid, you know, as you said, the game was integrated. You know, Jackie Robinson came in and what, 40 seven, seven, and Willie came in 51 was his rookie year. So I mean, if yeah, just look at the MVPs after the game is integrated. I mean, there's there's many guys and a lot of people who were around that time and are saw Willie play said that he should have won far more than the two that he won. Right. The Giants really weren't all that great during that era. And that's what kept him from winning quite a few more. I want to ask you one more thing, Tony, on the Willie May subject, because it came up in our round table. I think it's interesting because we talk about players then versus players today. And Willie May's was, I don't know, maybe five, 10, 5, 11, hundred and seventy five hundred and eighty pounds. He wasn't, you know, he wasn't. Was it Aaron Judge stature? No, I mean, he wasn't a hulking figure by any stretch. You know, was he as athletic as some of these guys that he have the video capabilities of your dad or the players what they use today. And so people say, could Willie Amaze, you know, played well today? Could he have had a 100 mile per hour fastball? I don't know. You might be able to say about some of the guys, but I think Willie would have found a way. You know, it's a, it's kind of a, it's kind of a lame argument to me in some ways. And here's why. If Willie May's, as we know him, grew up in the same time frame, he would have had the all of the luxuries that the players now have, right? He would have, he would have, you know, been exposed to the velocity a lot earlier. Like, if you just took him, like, if we like went back in time and I snatched Willie May's out of the 50s and just, and he had never, in, you know, encountered any of the stuff about the drop them in. I can't believe you're doing that. And I'm about to drop them into the right now. Yeah, I mean, it might be a little bit different, but if he grew up, same athlete, same size in today's day and age, of course, he would have been able to. I think I don't think this is, I don't think as much of a question. Now, you know, obviously they didn't have the luxuries that we have now, right? I mean, if you would have gave Willie May's a full on training facility, like the ones we have now, I have zero doubt. Yeah, I have zero, no, not even giving it like if he'd have just grown up around that time, you know, this, this era, no doubt that he would have been the same Willie May's. No doubt. Yeah, I agree, Tony. Well, tonight the Padres play their first home game since the passing of the legendary Willie May's. I know the Giants aren't in town. It's the Brewers, but I fully expected. I mean, the Giants are in Willie May's hometown. Rick would fight tonight. Yes, they're playing that game in St. Louis, which is wild, kind of dedicated to the whole Willie May's thing. Yeah, yeah, the timing of that is, is hard to imagine. It's really hard to imagine. It's gonna be a lot of emotion there, but I think there'll even be some emotion out at Petco Park. I, you know, I believe that the Padres are gonna certainly make mention of it. And I know one person will be standing up applauding and that'll be me. And probably just about everybody else. So I'll take it. You're coming to the game today. I'm coming to the game today. Yeah. So I will see you guys later tonight. Yeah, well, this is an important homestand. I get to get out there. Oh, it's an important homestand, Chris says. That's right. All right, more going and Chris coming up as we work our way towards Sam Levitt's pregame show and also our round table, which proceeds that at about 4 30 this afternoon on 97 3 the fan. Is your child struggling with a specific subject or need help with homework? Are they asking questions that you're not sure you can fully answer? I XL Learning is an online learning program for kids. It covers math, language arts, science, and social studies. I XL is designed. This program will improve your kids grades. Studies done in almost every state in the country. The kids who had I XL are consistently doing better powered by advanced algorithms. I XL gives the right help to each kid no matter the age or personality. And it doesn't have to eat up all your time. 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