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Jeff Poor Show - Friday 8-02-24
[MUSIC PLAYING] From Buck's Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. No, it ain't. Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Poor Show on FM Talk, 106.5. H.R.B.A. with us on this Friday, Friday, finally, Friday. We do appreciate your listening text line. It will be a touch with the show. All you've got to do is text me, 2513430106. That's how you get touched with the program. Come up on the program. Here in about 30 minutes or Friday visit with Todd Sacy, Alabama Daily News, and kind of quiet on the home front. There's some interesting things going on that we will get into with Senator Elliot in the 11 o'clock hour dealing with this occupational licensing. And if you keep up with it, the whole thing is just a corrupt mess as far as I'm concerned. But if you want to be like a-- I don't like a weed eater or something. You have to go get a weed eater's license or the state of Alabama. I'm being facetious. But a lot of you out there know what I'm talking about. They try to-- you're a cracker. We'll be our car size, everything, where you've got to have a license. And what Senator Elliot was trying to do was streamline some of this, eliminates some of it, as a matter of fact. So when you have this giant bureaucracy where you need to go get a license, a massage therapy, for example, the state doesn't have like its own-- the Bureau of Massage Therapy just can't afford that. And that becomes too-- it's not cost-effective or whatever. So what they do is they just hire somebody to do it. And they subcontract it out. And as they do so, there's these companies that sort of become like-- they figure out how to wet their beak, if you will, in this whole process. And what Elliot wants to do is kind of take the perverse profit and incentive out of some of these occupational licenses and just do it within the government somehow. Now, the Secretary of State's office, I think it's where this would fall. They're not big on the idea. But he can explain it so much better than I can. But there's a shake up there. One of the big players in this whole saga, Smith & Warren. I don't know what you would call it, a consultant or something. But you go and you take your classes there. And by the power of the state of Alabama has bestowed upon them, they award you your license. So it's like one stop shop for everything. The problem is it's very, very, very-- in some cases, very expensive. And it shouldn't be that way. Also, in a program other than Senator Elliot Todd Stacey, Susan Dubos. And if you've been keeping up with the Olympic saga here, then you would know what is a woman bill. And well, you know about the boxing saga at the Olympics. So we're going to try to look into that. We're going to talk to Susan Dubos. She's a state lawmaker from Shelby County. And we'll talk to her about what she can do in Alabama. But just a whole issue in general. So that's coming up in. Let's come up in the 10 o'clock hour. As I said earlier, 2513430106, you want to be in touch with the program. All you do is text me. And we will proceed accordingly. Obviously, the news, I think, does hostage swap, or prisoner swap, or whatever you want to call it. I don't know what to make of it. I'm always skeptical of people in Russia in general. I don't think these guys were spies. I don't know. Could they have been? Well, what do we get? What kind of deal did we get out of it as the Americans? And if they were reospisled in their-- maybe they're serving their country. But that's just my wild speculation here about what's going on with this prisoner swap between us and Putin. The biggest ones since the Soviets were in charge over in Moscow. In the middle of the night, sort of presentation, the news networks, they are making sure that you see Vice President Harris and President Biden standing out there at the runway at Andrews Air Force Base. Why do you need to greet these returned? And it's good to be back in America. I'm not saying that at all. And I shouldn't be smurched that. But we're just going to consider the circumstances here and what's involved. The other weird thing about it-- and I got to thinking about this-- some of the reporting has claiming that Biden had negotiated this deal. And then an hour later, remember that fateful Sunday, he drops out of the presidential race. So was he just hanging on as a candidate until he got this deal done? Is that kind of weird to anybody else besides me? I saw the reporting. I don't know how true it is. But the reporting says that Joe Biden negotiated this deal all the way until that Sunday. And then those of you who go to church and didn't probably go to lunch somewhere that afternoon, he drops out and passes the baton on to Vice President Kamala Harris, well, not officially. That they didn't even pull that off, right? Took him like an hour later, he had to endorse her. So I wondered if there was some kind of negotiating leverage there or whatever it may be. So we can talk about that. I don't know. I'm not sure what to make of. And it does seem a little-- the timing seems a little weird in the heat of a presidential cycle. It's like the reverse Iranian hostages thing. So watch that. Obviously presidential race-- I keep hearing this from my friends at-- my colleagues at Breitbart are a little concerned about Trump's performance right now. Will he get his swagger back? But I think we were kind of spoiled throughout the whole season here so far with Biden kind of being a lackluster candidate. And now Harris dominating the news. Who's she going to make her Vice Presidential running made? It's looking more like Josh Shapiro to governor of Pennsylvania. I always thought Mark Kelly just had-- there's too much there. But the problem-- we talked about this the last few days. The problem the Democrats have-- it takes months to vet these Vice Presidential candidates. It's like a deep dive into everything they've ever done. And they're having to do this in a matter of days or weeks. They're really having to run a hurry up offense here. But it feels like whoever she picks will be just kind of the Tim Kaine. I mean, thinking back to that 2016 run-- Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine. Oh, what was remarkable about Tim Kaine through a whole-- I mean, do you-- you barely remember seeing him, don't you? Is that what we're sort of headed for here? Text like 2513430106, you need to be in touch with the program. That's what you do. Let's see what else we got in the news. We already hit boxing. It's Smith Warren. What about this? So there's an effort here underway to ban cell phones at public schools. I was attesting it out in Rentonhof County, but what would you think of that? Those of you with grade school children, primarily 7th to 12th grade, how do you feel about a cell phone man at public high schools? Now, look, they can't even keep cell phones out of prison. Can they keep them out of schools? I don't know. But the idea here is maybe you collect them when they come in. I don't know. Well, a lot of people seem to be for this, but then there's a group of parents out there who always want some kind of open line of communication to their child. And I think there'll be a little bit of pushback for that. But Eric and Thomas has a story up to try it out in some places around the state. It's not like this Rentonhof County story. It's not like they got real strong cell coverage over there anyway. And with all the other things, they have to police in public schools. I mean, they can't even keep guns out, can they? They're always having a story about a kid who brings his mom and daddy's gun to school about once a year or so. It just seems like one more thing added to the list. For your educators, your administrators, the fine, fine people who are members of the Alabama Education Association, another challenge they have to tackle. And to do that, is that really something they want to deal with? So I got that. A lot of other things we could hit on today. The last thing I'll bring up here before we go to the break here, the new cycle about Trump and challenging Kamala Harris's race, Indian, Black, whatever it is. And some of the right are hammering Trump for even bringing it up. I kind of want you to unfold. And you kind of wonder, I mean, how much is this just the left really, really promoting this out there and making this the narrative, which is what they do. But our friends, some of our friends on the right, I don't know if we still would call Quinn Hill, you're on the right or who else. But Ben Shapiro, a very quintessential thought leader on the right. Why did he do this? Why did Trump go down this path? Well, he's at a B.J. conference, and he comes up. And it just seemed like he was a little, maybe a little aggressive. They're fine. But the dirty little secret guys is no matter what Trump says, they're going to figure out a way to frame it. It is not flattering. And I hear this every all the time, all the time, all the time. Trump needs to stop stepping on himself. You see, he just needs to get out of his own way. But the problem is, like, he says anything, the mainstream media, well, the Democratic Party, whoever the infrastructure propaganda wing is, they figure out a way to frame it. They send the talking points out. And ironically, not ironically, but, well, anyway, the media pick them up, and they say, well, this is, you know, they presented this fact. I mean, you can't get a better deal than that if you're on the Democrat side. So they take that, and then Republicans have to respond to it. And that's when you're explaining you're losing. [MUSIC] So anyway, that's just something that I don't know. I'm sure the Trump people have thought about, but Trump's going to do what he's going to do. And this is like, yeah, Olympians now talking about their black job. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's the text line. Hit me up there. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show at FM Talk 10065. ♪ Deep, you free and clean ♪ ♪ Captain Flowers on the wall ♪ ♪ That don't bother me at all ♪ ♪ Playing solitary duckdong ♪ ♪ With the deck of 51 ♪ ♪ Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain paying ♪ ♪ Aye, man, don't tell me ♪ ♪ I've nothing to do ♪ ♪ It's good to see you ♪ Let me go back to the Jeff Moore show it up and talk 10065. Thanks for being with us on this Friday morning. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. You want to be in touch with the show? All you got to do is text me. You got to get this one out there for us to discuss. What do you think? Having cell phones banned from public schools, from public high schools primarily. I didn't know they were allowed at any level, but I don't have any kids in public schools. They're throwing that out there. We have a bunch of other things we could talk about. You know the text, only two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, a name texture. Trump has started on memory issues. He doesn't remember swapping prisoners fired on. Please have Ricky on. Please have Ricky expand on the fake sun magnifying last theory. Pass. Hard pass. A name texture. Most why I've seen in a press at the journalist's deal, Total Badass. A name texture. What did Germany get out of the hostage prisoner's swamp? Probably like some kind of NATO or some kind of an aircraft, I don't know. Steve, my kids used to go to Daphty, but now I got a base for Christian school. Base for those last cell phones at school, and it's such a great thing. Really? Steve, so you're good with no connection to your children. Thing is like, I'm thinking about this, like a lot of people, especially with all these school shootings and things like that, and I know like there's just thousands and thousands of schools out there and one of these school shootings happens like maybe once every couple every few years, but it's there's such intense media scrutiny that mommy and daddy think it's just a regular occurrence and they want to have that connection to their child or anything. And since there's a tornado outbreak or something like that, and I don't know how we, I don't know how we survived without them. I was growing up, let's see, Heywood, rather than they have, rather than they have a phone than drugs or guns, clear backpacks and metal detectors is enough, I think it's a distraction in a classroom. I don't know what that could be like, like imagine if I had this cell phone, I was in high school. What would I be up to? What would I have been up to toothless bammer, you see here, Dibbs is hiding Harris and will hide. They throw support Shapiro out there. He will sound off how Kamala has done 180 degrees of gun control fracking and her goofy ideas. Trump needs to stick to the highlighted his record economy immigration to crime. I mean, Kamala Harris is a walking word salad. Last night they let her go on scripted again. I think she's, I don't think she's dumb. I don't think she's like, I think she has opinions and she can articulate them. I think she's just really, really careful and like way too careful, way too cautious. She's the opposite of Trump. I know that's probably like, we all want to say, well, she's just a dumb vapid, whatever. I think she is way, way, way too careful, way too overthinking. She needs a lifeline. Maybe it's a confidence thing, but if you just ask her her straight up opinion, but she knows whatever she says is going to get played on a loophole Fox News and she's probably tried to avoid that. But I don't think that does any good because the right is going to do the same thing the Democrats do there are going to capitalize on any opportunity and make the most of it. She just got to kind of roll with it. Just like Trump does for better or for worse, I guess, sometimes for worse, but it's amazing how my kids, me and my wife, my parents, my grandparents, it's so on made it through school without phones. The week body parents today think they need a connection to their kids is really creepy. They follow them to school, even events like pepper alleys, they follow them to college stuff. Kids grow up quick, baby. The banning phones from schools may actually get kids to pay more attention. Fly, fly, fly above it all. Pat, no connection to our children, LMAO, don't LMAO on the text line. Whatever that our parents do without cell phones, I agree, but what did we do without penicillin? We just died, right? Let's get a break in here. This is the Jeff Four Show with F.N. Talk, 106.5. Hey, it's Jeff Four Show with F.N. Talk, 106.5, stay with us on this Friday. Friday, made it to Friday, Friday, finally, Friday, 25134301 and 06 is the text line you want to be in touch with the show. All you got to do is hit me up there, still to come on the program, about an hour from now. State Representative Susan Dubos, we'll talk about scrolling on to the Olympics over across the pond in Paris, but the boxing situation hits really close to home for her. And then we'll have later on in the program as we do every Friday, our Attorney Champion, Police Senator Chris Elliott, stay tuned for that. But joining us now, as we do on Fridays as well, my friend runs Alabama Daily News, the political website in Alabama for grownups, and the host of Capitol Journal, Todd Stacy, Todd, good morning. How are you? I'm great. Yeah. How are you? Doing well, doing well. Thanks for coming on. We do appreciate it. Get off here, this kind of tangled web of this occupational licensing situation, I mean, this sounds like they finally started pulling in enough threads that there's something going on here as far as that's what it looks like to be. Yeah, this really became a story a couple of years ago, and we reported on it for Inside Alabama Politics, because that's kind of where the rumors and indie windows kind of go. And the Keith Warren, who runs this agency called Smith Warren, and they specialize in running boards and commissions, right? These are occupational commissions, boards that, you know, license things like barbers and other kind of, you know, specialized occupations, but again, I think he runs like a dozen, and so it's kind of a cottage industry. Well, we started looking into it because there was a lawsuit a couple of years ago, basically accusing him of, well, he sued somebody else for trying to get involved in that space, because, you know, he's kind of cornered the market. So now he's withdrawn from his own company, Smith Warren Management Company. He's still going to be involved, but he's stepped away as CEO. So that just raised a lot of questions, and so we started looking into it, and I think there are, honestly, there are more questions than there are answers, but it gets to the whole point of what the state is doing with occupational licensing period, and you had legislation this last session from state Senator Chris Elliott, also Garland Gutter, was really involved in that to try to reform the way all that happened. The bill hit kind of late in the session, and so there probably wasn't enough time to really get it across the finish line. I think it was like a 500 page bill. I'd be curious what Chris Elliott does later in the show, but I think this development with Keith Warren only makes it more likely that a reform movement is needed, and it's something to really look forward to for next session. Well, I mean, I just just beat in the hallways a little last session. It was a big topic of discussion that it just seemed like this was the ongoing narrative. What are the underlying narratives? I mean, they're obviously much bigger narratives throughout the year, Todd, or throughout the session I made, and this one never kind of went away until the very, very, very end, and then it looked to me like the way they got around, not dealing with it in the house was that the house got kind of, well, some of the house members got out of sorts with Elliott because of gambling, and this thing kind of died on the vine right then and there, but the whole session, Todd, like talking to some of the lobbyists in the hallways, it was just how they were working a waste to beat it, or they were talking about it, what's going to happen. It was always kind of a gripe around, at least on the house floor. Yeah, it's one of those things that it's gone kind of under the radar for a long time. In fact, the biggest, maybe the biggest criticism of Keith Warren has been him essentially making up some fees to charge, I think it was the massage board. They regulate and license massage therapists, basically, and they started getting complaints because these fees that they were charging weren't in state law at all. They weren't even regulations at all. They were just kind of made up by Keith Warren and the board, so it's things like that. But again, none of this would have even come to the floor. It took a lawsuit to really get us all paying attention to this a couple of years ago, and now you peel back the onion just a little bit, that's just one example of why it's so important to keep tabs on state government. Even small little corners of state government where you don't really think much is going on, well, this is actually a pretty big deal. Yeah. Well, do you anticipate this move in next year? I know, like you said, it's a big deal for guys like you and I when we talk about it, but is it a, I mean, I don't know, it just never seems to be like a, I mean, here we are. It is August the second, how many times was this like a big headline on your, on your website? I mean, it rarely made the top of the page on mine, unless Elliot or somebody was talking about it. But these things tend to get drowned out once the ball gets rolling with the new session. I think it will be a big topic this next session. You've got an existing bill and remember, you know, usually it takes a couple of years to pass a significant piece of legislation, right? I mean, gambling aside, some of that other stuff aside, but a new idea, something that's never been really seen before, a 500 page bill, sometimes it takes a couple of years to really get everybody on the same page, especially considering last session you had so many other things going on. So I wasn't really surprised that didn't pass, there's also an opportunity here to not just deal with the, the licensing regulatory side that performs the way we do occupational licensing period, right? I mean, we've had all this talk about workforce, right, trying to remove barriers to folks getting into the workforce. Well, one of the biggest barriers can be licensing, you know, if you want to be a massage there, if it's going to be a hairdresser, if you want to be, you know, all kinds of occupations, you know, across the spectrum, sometimes there are burdensome regulations and licensing things that go into that, some of them are necessary, right? But it's probably an opportunity to reform the whole system and not just the questionable stuff that we know about. Join by Todd Stacey here on the program, uh, beyond that, Todd, uh, the other thing, I'm surprised. For spending time talking about this, this whole idea of the, the police chiefs being appointed by the state and you get, there's such mixed reaction from lawmakers when we talk, when I talked to them about doing this, is this something, and wondering if Ann was on, or well, she, she taught to one of our reporters and she seems open to the idea and I wonder, she's just kind of an outlier too, but Democrats are starting to feel some kind of heat about what's going on in our cities and I kind of wonder, it may be it's not this reading or wheelbarfoot thing, but we should probably expect to see something rolled out, maybe from the governor. Well, you certainly saw last week the AG secretary of Aliyah, um, Montgomery County sheriff and, and, uh, ATF and some others, you know, have this, this, um, new task force basically to, to step up enforcement incentives and all I can speak for is Montgomery and there certainly has been a lot of frustration building, it's not partisan, it really isn't. Um, people are frustrated, I mean, I would say the most frustrated folks are the ones living in the cities, which could probably include a lot of Democrats and, um, there's just frustration with, um, mayors to, you know, stop making excuses and start getting it done again, I'm just speaking to the Capitol city, I'm speaking about Montgomery, there's a lot of frustration with Stephen Reed, um, over just kind of excuse making and, you know, for, for rising crime, violence, gunshots, things like that. And so I wasn't really surprised to see the state get involved and step up. Um, we've got, we've got a legal gun problem, there's a gun trafficking problem. I think that that can involve the feds, um, in terms of, you know, if somebody has an illegal gun, a traffic stop can work wonders in terms of, you know, putting that person on bars. Um, so yeah, I, I'm not surprised that they've stepped up, I really don't think it is partisan. Um, I think if there are Democrats getting on board with this, it's probably a response of their constituents who are fed up with rising crime and a feeling of just, um, not being safe in their own communities. Well, Todd, and you live in Montgomery and I, and this so like, I'm interested to hear what you think is going on there because, I mean, like it's easy for me to sit down here and throw shots at, uh, the, the Kamala Harris proxy, Stephen Reed or whatever. But like, what do you, what do you make of that? I mean, you've been in Montgomery a long time, is it really as bad as this perceived to be right now? Number one. And number two, I mean, what do you think? I mean, is it, is it a problem in city government or is there's just something else going on out there? I think it's a little unfair just to put it all on the feet of Stephen Reed. Um, I mean, he's had initiatives to curb crime and all that. Um, part of it, I think is working together. Um, so, so a few times the city, the county, the state, and the feds, all those, uh, government have to work together. And when there are partisan divides between them, sometimes that doesn't work out. And I think that, that would probably be my biggest criticism. And again, um, what folks are frustrated here in Montgomery about it is excuse making instead of just kind of owning it, understanding like, okay, we've got a crime problem with we've got a violence problem, we've got a gunshot problem, even if, even if somebody isn't hit with a gunshot, just a, you know, it shouldn't sound like Beirut out there, you know, every night with gunshots going off, it just, it's a feeling of, and, and not being safe. So, you know, again, yeah, money morning quarterback. I don't really have answers, but, um, I feel like last week was a good first step in terms of the state and the locals and the feds trying to work together to use all their resources to actually challenge this, this epidemic, right? You know, make arrests, make traffic stops, you know, send a message that we're trying to do something. I thought it was a really good stuff. Well, but, but just as far as just like you're on the ground perception, I mean, do you feel unsafe or more unsafe than you have before? Like, what's it like there? No, I don't, I've really never felt unsafe, but I live in Cloverdale, it's kind of this bubble, and, but, but I certainly hear the gunshots, um, and he really can't go anywhere about never without hearing gunshots, and maybe that's true of a lot of cities, um, but again, they came out with this, uh, task force last week saying, look, this is the capital state, this is where our state of government is, we owe it to the state to protect us. I thought it was telling, um, to have, you know, the, the attorney general, the secretary of the Alabama law enforcement agency, the Montgomery County sheriff, all of them come out and say, we're going to crack down on this, we're going to do the job that we feel like is not being done in the city, part of it also is, um, the city has a huge, um, shortage of police officers that they're trying to, you know, make up for, and the, there's going to turn over in the chiefs, the police chief position, uh, several, uh, turnovers. So, it's a problem, but if you ask me if I feel unsafe, no, I don't, but, um, there's a lot of frustration, uh, throughout the city. Well, like you said, it does sound, let's start to see somebody kind of bar, bipartisan wrinkles here. The one last thing I'd say about, I'll ask you about this, I mean, kind of casually here and there, uh, the governor's office, I mean, they, they seem to be handing it something here. Do you get a sense that they're like, open to this reading room thing or do they, do you think they got something else in mind? I don't know, it's, it'll be interesting to see they say, I don't think we're going to see kind of some kind of special session, and I don't think the problem is specific to Montgomery. I think it's most American cities, honestly, um, it's just because this is a city government, you know, so much reporting happens to be here, it gets noticed a lot more. And again, folks have just gotten tired of excuses. That's, that's the big thing, if it was just some acknowledgement from the mayor that we understand this, we're trying to get ahead of it and be something, but it's always some kind of excuse. And, you know, the fact is, um, Mayor Reed has been involved in a lot of national stuff, um, it's frequently going to DC and other cities and it's like, well, you know, when that happened, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm, I'm glad he's, I mean, he is a official spokesperson or surrogate for the Harris campaign now. Yeah, I didn't know that, but I mean, that's fine, you should be able to do multiple things, but that makes it all the more difficult to answer the questions and all the more frustrating for residents when all you have is excuses and not solutions. And so that's why you're seeing frustrations, why you're seeing reading, reading, or a lot of others, um, come out with, you know, ideas and proposals and again, this task force, that never would have happened if the mayor was proactive about responding to criticism in a proactive way instead of making excuses. Todd, we gotta wrap it up here. Uh, folks want to, uh, folks want, want to check out what you got coming up on Capitol Journal or know what you got coming up with Capitol Journal, our setup for your fantastic newsletter. I can do so. Yeah. You want to sign up for the newsletter? It's a L daily news.com. That's the homepage. You can just enter your name and your email right there on the homepage and you'll be on the list. And yeah, Capitol Journal tonight, 730 on APP, we got a state superintendent, Eric Mackie, got a men to send with the Alabama Securities Commission talking about Bitcoin and blockchain and cryptocurrency and also element near secretary of commerce and Bob Smith, deputy secretary of commerce. They've just gotten back from the farmboat or air shed. So we're talking about the emerging and really blossoming aviation and aerospace industry in Alabama. So yeah, tune in tonight on APP Todd as always. We appreciate it. Probably just be good. All right. We gotta get a break. Here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff for show. We'll definitely talk. 10065. We're back to the Jeff Porsche. Jeff Porsche. Let's talk 10065. Thanks for staying with us on this Friday morning, 2513430106 need to be a touch with the show. All you got to do is text to me. We got a lot of text to get to here over the next couple of segments. Keep them coming. We do appreciate it. Just a few things out there. Prisoner swap. How do you feel about that? I mean, everything is political that goes on in Washington, D.C., but such as it is. There's just something a little too staged about having the vice president, the president there in Andrews Air Force base. And it didn't seem particularly prepared for the, it was, yes, it was just like orchestrated production. But they should have some kind of like, obviously they had their prepared remarks, but what they took questions from the media, it felt like they didn't know what the hell they were talking about. Both Harris and Biden, like I get his politics, you got to have these, like I said, rehearsed moments, but why aren't you like ready with a, like a concise response from your friendly media? No, I just, the word salad stuff is going to catch up with Kamala Harris. It is. It just is. They can protect her, but at some point she's good. I have to like stand on her own. And like I said, I think she knows what to say or she says, maybe she would, she's afraid she will say something suit, you know, like what she really truly believes is going on. And her remarks on that might be a little outrageous or be used against her. So I think she gets caught in these traps because she's way too cautious, way too careful. And they got to get her out of that mindset. I'll see here, Mr. Doug, students should be taught to use their phones to find answers to answer into world world, we use all available resources to get problems solved efficiently. Yeah, but you know, kids are well, there's one of them by a cell phone. I probably played video games during geometry. I don't know. Texting my bros about like whatever you do in high school. I can't imagine that world, you don't have to pass notes anymore, you just get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is the job for show. That's the talk when oh six five on a freight train leaving town. Not knowing where I'm bound and no one can change my mind but mama tried. From bucks pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porshow. I don't think he ain't done it this way. We're back to the Jeff Porshow on FM talk one of six five they just stay with us on this Friday morning to five one three four three zero one zero six out of a two now underway 30 minutes from now, you'll hear from zero presented Susan Dubosto Shelby County. I was going to hit on one of her big issues talking about this. It's not transgender athletes. That's the problem in this, what I believe. So the Algerian boxer and the Italian female boxer and the question about the Algerians. Gender, what is he, she, it, I don't know, but there wasn't a transition involved. So you can't call it he, she trans and I don't know the international Olympic committee is a very, very strange organization. Well, what does the whole trans movement fit into some kind of globalist agenda? Why are people making this a thing? Why is the left decided? This will be a thing. I mean, this goes back years and years and years and this is a question should ask back then. It's not getting a lot of play on the mainstream media. It's like getting any yesterday, guys, the mainstream media outlets in this country dispatched all their little, little do good or reporters out to ask every Republican lawmaker to comment on Donald Trump and what he had said about Kamala Harris's race. Really what the right would do to respond to that, send every little right wing version of this. There's not very many of them to go out and get them to comment on this, this Olympic female boxing fiasco, but it just, it's not that many right of center journalism organizations. And then we can have a whole discussion about who gets credentialed. A lot of it is that a Breitbart where I work, finally got credentialed here with Kevin McCarthy became speaker from the time that Trump got elected in 16 all the way up until speak till McCarthy became speaker in 22. Breitbart couldn't get press credentials on Capitol Hill. They were denied because they didn't like the association that Breitbart had with the White House or something like that, but they play games like that all the time, these big bureaucracies, so you have to get credentialed to be in the White House press court, get credentialed to be in the Capitol Hill press corps, you know, it is very, very arbitrary when they decide to who to let in. So you just buy the rules of the game, right of center media has a lot harder time permeating the bubble. But I don't know, I just, this is, this is a team sport sometimes and here we are text like two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, prisoner swap, number one, like I said, the, it's good to, the prisoner swap thing is, I guess, fine, it's something the president, do we, it wasn't a good deal or not, we'll never really fully understand their grasp it. It's just my eyeballs were kind of glued to the TV last night as Harris and Biden were standing there on the runway on the tarmac at Andrews Air Force Base or joint base Andrews or whatever it's called now and just thinking, okay, this is a campaign moment, pay attention to backdrop and everything that went on was was good photo ops for them kind of shameless, but it was a good photo op where it was lacking was they just weren't either really seen prepared to have a coherent message to deliver to the press. Isn't it odd, this is the, the, this is the great irony of everything had just spot on laser spot on the mainstream media are for the Democrats and the whole entire discussion about JD Vance being weird or whatever are whatever else, there'll be numerous examples throughout this cycle, but they can't get their own candidates to really buy into their own messaging or at least adopt it because I guess my just not able, and I don't know why Harris, they're just not putting her out there at all. There's a Tom Cotton was only Caitlyn Collins, Alabama's own Caitlyn Collins who were always reminded of that, whatever we see her on it and see it in and it went bad as expected. I mean, very adversarial, but Cotton, who's senator from Arkansas kept asking like, where are you going to ask these questions to come on Harris? Where are you going, where are you guys in the media going to put her on the spot about something to dumb things she said over the last six to eight years, bad fracking or all this left wing, her irritation with Merry Christmas, but they will do that. And that's why people just don't trust the media and they seem okay with that. There is a group of people in this country and I don't know if this is a pejorative or not, but we'll call them the wine moms of America. And they read the New York Times and they do the crossword puzzle, listen to NPR and that's all they need. There's not, there's no critical analysis of what they're hearing, everything else that's out there is just right wing or even left wing. And where they are is right there in the center objective getting their news objectively. Therefore, they're smarter than everybody and if that dominates this new cycle, that is that that's the prevailing wisdom. This is what Republicans think they can get by, by, by foregoing a discussion about abortion in the right to lie. Do they think they can, Republicans think they can actually win over these people? Did this, this wine mom demographic or soccer mom or whatever it is, by being wobbly on the pro life discussion, I just don't think you're ever going to get there. They've already made up their mind. They're smarter than everybody else. And this vulgar Neanderthal from Queens, they spent too much time in the tanning bed. Could not be president again. Let's get to some text. We got a bunch here backed up here. Joe, it should be the parents' choice of the kids that their kids have a phone and score not. That doesn't work, really. What if I said it should be the parent, the parents' choice of my child should be able to carry a gun to score or not. Steve, students can use their phone in the office if needed. They have their cell phone put away in the locker during school. What else do they get called? Sean, Jeff, everyone should do a 90s day where you leave your phone at home when you go outside or leave. But then it's plugged into the wall. It's frightening and liberating at the same time. Sean, if there were no cell phones, if you, if you pull, if it were 90s day every day on the Jeff Porsche, we would not have you give us your wisdom and that would be very disappointing to the program and our listeners. Dan, a lot of cell phones, changing the force consequences or breaking rules like having them out during class. And then, then, as hell though, Montgomery and signing police chiefs would be a disaster sitting check qualifications, expectations, fine. Well, it's not that they would do it for every city. It's just the ones that didn't meet certain public safety standards. So, for example, the problem in Montgomery and Birmingham is that they're not able, they have a, they have a police shortage. What's going on there? Why don't people want to work for the Montgomery police department or the Birmingham police department? And you can probably apply that to some other cities around the state and the ones always think I've pritchered, Selma, Bessemer, I'm sure there's others, but they're just having a hard time staffing and representative Ingram argues, well, look, they, they just need a better, they just need better leadership in there. And they get the right leadership in place that they could hire and the crime will go down or whatever. But instead, you have these, well, I guess they think of them as woke or whatever. Police chiefs. But it will only be in places where there's crime and there's staffing problems and there's all these other, it wouldn't be just like, okay, the state gets to a point, the Daphty Police chief or the Sarah Land Police chief or whatever. You would have to have a reason for them to intervene and they've really yet to establish what that metric will look like. Jason, did you stay up to watch by degree to hostages? I wonder how many times you checked his watch this time. He just was glassy eyed, stared off. I feel, I know y'all don't know, y'all think he's just the epitome of all evil and he's had a very rough go at it. He hasn't done a lot to ingratiate himself to the right, but there's just something pathetic about it. There's something sad about this stage of life, unnamed texture, nobody has more word salad than Trump, the stable genius. No, I disagree with that. I mean, Harris definitely word salads it up. The Trump's not exactly the most graceful or a tour, but you're, you're not even close on this one, buddy. Michael, I think Kamala's problem with the word salad stuff is that she is just high most time. I don't, I just, I think it's a confidence issue. I hate Trump's over confidence. She's under confident. She doesn't want to get caught in the trap of saying something. I mean, she's okay about bubbling around and saying words that just don't really mean much. They're very vague. Let's apply attitudes. I mean, a bottle is sort of the same way, just a bottle is way more graceful at it. I think she's competent enough to say something to at least pay her some kind of talking point, but I don't know why she hasn't rehearsed them. Anyway, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, text me, read to rest your text in the next segment. This is the Jeff Porte Show, an FM talk, one, oh, six, five. They should stay with us on this Friday morning, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, that's the text line coming up in the next segment, state representative Susan DeBose from Shelby County will be with us to stay tuned for that. I was still going to go through these texts real quick, Heywood, cell phones in school, the genie has been out for 15 plus years, just as they feel good attempt. The time to get controls 15 years ago also is pervasive throughout trying to check out the place or in order on the phone. Well, Heywood, here's the deal. The phone's 15 years ago, we'll see, well, maybe they did. It's just what they have cell phones in the schools versus having internet capable phones in the schools, fire dog, I'm glad I didn't grow up in the age of cell phones. We went outside and made a parallel entertainment, being bored and sitting still as a skill that needs to be learned. Now, maybe I'm just old. I don't, I remember like times of boredom in my life. There's no boredom in this society is there unless you're like in a waiting room or do a time or I don't know. People don't get bored anymore. Do they? There's always, always something and actually like thinking about it, man, I do miss kind of being bored, but I don't think kids get bored anymore, like the daunting idea of raising a child who never, who will never be bored. It's just your fingertips, you have a thousand channels. I mean, I, I grew up kind of that transition from the cable from, from the broadcast TV world going into where everybody had cable. Those times of my life, I remember we didn't have cable. We just had whatever they cast out over their waves. If I were talking, I mean, thinking about that, I'd be like, this generation is never going to be bored. I should say that I guess if you're on a long drive or something, but even then, are you really bored? I mean, you, you still have access to the internet. Indeed, and immoral people need masters, so global is find them easier to subjugate for world government. Jay, James pro tip here about the Jeff Porsche, when you text me multiple times, you get moved to the back of the line, so I can't get to your text. You need to wait. James, the way you ought to operate here is let me get to your text and then you could fire off another one of your missives. James right to do a Greeno cell phone to school, however, as we have seen multiple schools, the police can't protect him or they pull a U of all day, going to be difficult to remove them. Uh, James, it seems like Trump's handlers should be doing the same for him. So as words will seek him, I just trumps the problem with Trump is that he's, he's, he's always done this. He's got a winning record. So he can like tell his handlers to go away, Harris, I mean, I know she's been vice president for three and a half years, but does she, is she afforded that same luxury? James, as if Fox News asked the tough questions to Republicans, come on, Jeff, both sides are guilty and there's no objectivity now, but Fox News is a ride of a center network. MSNBC is a left of center network. But the question is, or what Tom Cotton was talking about the media outlets that died off their objectivity, they're really dining off their legacy for 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. ABC CBS, ABC, Washington Post, even the New York Times, you know, it's always been kind of left of center. They don't ask the tough questions. There's no reason for Donald Trump to sit down with an interview with those outlets now. I mean, Fox News serves a purpose as MSNBC serves a purpose and it's not to challenge their own side, but just kind of feed whatever the narrative they need to feed to their viewers who tend to be either interested or right of center and just some degree able to see an end. Although I would argue CNN still dining off its past as well. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk, one of six, five, but what I've got is my tight, rich, but Lord, I'm free. Have a real good morning. I got you just give me just Well, back to the Jeff Port showing up and talk one of six, five lost connection there, but we have gathered it back in, just turned around to check and there it is. It's dropped. It's still with us. State workers have suited to both joining us from down in Orange Beach today, but she represents area north or just north to the south east of Birmingham and Shelby County. We were talking and kind of cut to the chase here. We'll just got to regather it back in. The discussion we were having about the like we saw it happen at the Olympic boxing yesterday with this Italian female boxer in this, I don't know what everyone would call him or from Algeria and that this becomes a this now, despite what your critics, this is a big issue for you and you face the criticism. But now we have seen we have seen this happen and this is something that maybe maybe it's happening, seems like it's happening far, far away, but it is now something going on here and you know, just in front of us and I think a lot of people pay the attention to it. So now it's not just it's not just this female swimmer, Riley Gaines thing anymore that people seem to, well, that happened whenever, but now it just is starting to occur a lot more. Right. And I mean, this Olympic incident with that with that box or that honestly had to quit 46 seconds into that competition is making our case for us. Basically men and women are different. They are biologically different and that's why I passed legislation in the state of Alabama that protects athletes from grades K through higher education that says you compete according to your biological sex, your sex at birth based on your reproduction organs because we know that no matter how many hormones you take or what parts of your body cut off or add on, you know, men are going to be physically different, stronger. They have, you know, stronger cardiovascular capacity, muscle strength and just in just every way. It's just common sense, honestly. So this has brought it to a world stage. We know it's been going on in our country because we've heard from Riley Gaines. We heard from the volleyball player, a high school volleyball player that was hit in the head by a transgender athlete playing on women's team and knocked her out unconscious and now she has partial paralysis as a result of that. So it's going on, we have protected our athletes in Alabama, but the problem now is that the Biden administration through an egregious act of bureaucracy in the Department of Education wants to change our Title IX laws so that sex will include gender identity which defeats the whole purpose of Title IX when it was enacted back in 1972 to protect young women and education and, you know, to say that there can be no discrimination on the basis of sex. If you change the meaning of sex to include gender identity, then you're not protecting women anymore. Well, and here's the thing, now, if the Olympics were in Alabama, obviously, we would not have this right. Like, this was out of bed. Well, we wouldn't have it today, but I mean, in Alabama, if the Biden administration is successful in continuing and implementing this rule that's supposed to go into effect, August 1, that it could affect every take-through, it'll could affect every woman in our whole nation, honestly. Of course, we're suing against that, right? You know, Attorney General Marshall has so far successfully been able to stop that and fill up 21 other states. Yeah. That's a whole different level in the Olympics. I mean, that is not included in the Title IX issue at all, but it all ties it together. It's affecting all of our women at all ages. What is it? I mean, like, why is-- I just-- and I'm asking you to get inside the mind of these folks, but like, what is the-- why is it just-- why is it such a virtue now with the left of wanting to make this a thing? You're right. It's just not even common sense. It's gotten to the point of getting more and more difficult for anybody, no matter how they identify to justify this. And I mean, I've talked to many gay folks that don't agree with it. I mean, this is not something that the whole LGBTQ community agrees with. I think it's something that's devices, even within the LGBTQ community, because they-- I mean, actually, males and females are different. Everybody has a greater common sense to see that. Yeah. Why this has become the big virtue signaling issue is, you know, I could throw out lots of theories and I can't really say for sure what it is, but it's harmful. It's harmful to our communities, it's harmful to our nation. You know, maybe it's part of somebody's big plan to destroy the American family. Maybe it's part of somebody's believe that there's all sorts of reasons out there, but it's just honestly-- it's just gone too far in trying to protect a class of people, which is a preposterous. Yeah. I don't understand it. And like you said, I mean, if you're LGBTQ lifestyle and you really want to make strides in that arena for whatever you see as an unfair disadvantage or whatever, like this puzzle piece having the Algerian boxer beat up the female Italian boxer is not doing you any favors. Yeah, it really-- that was not what you want to die on. You do not want to hang your hat on this issue because it makes more sense. And they're proving our case for us. We've always said we just want to level playing fields for women. It's actually a safe and level playing field. It's more than fairness. It's safety. And they are proving our case for us. And I hate it that these women are being used and being taken advantage of even that box, the athlete that had to drop out of the flight, she still wouldn't come out and say that this is wrong. Probably for fear of repercussion or being banned from her sport or something, being canceled. I mean, people fear of being canceled and being called some sort of bigot. Honestly, it supersedes just common sense sometimes. And we just think people come up and say, look, this is not right. It's just plain not right. And I'm going to say on behalf of these women, we need dads to stand up and speak on behalf of all of our women. I mean, we need everybody to stand up and be brave and say, hey, this ain't right. What is it this part of the problem that a lot of people are a little afraid to get out there on? I mean, there's such a pressure campaign, and I mean, it comes from the media, it comes from a bunch of different places. But the problem with taking something like this on it, just for a lot of people, it's just not worth the risk. I don't know what is. I'm sure it's different in the Alabama Statehouse, but maybe you've encountered this kind of trying to lead to charge here where you hear like, you know, I'm on your side here, but I don't need to be out in front of this one. And that's, yeah, yeah, I hear that all the time. We're glad you're doing it. We agree with what you're doing it. I won't take this phone call from the press, but hey, Susan Devos will talk to you. And look, I'm proud to take that stand, but yeah, I have gotten attacked simply because I'm trying to protect women athletes. I've been called every name in the book. I mean, they jumped from me protecting women to, you know, I'm the, within which in the west, I'm the, you know, I'm the church lady, I'm racist, how this comes into being racist. I can't even figure that out. I'm homophobic. I mean misogynistic. I don't know. Name all those. It was next. I've been called every single one of them because I simply want to protect women. And that's fine. Call me all those names. I really, I know it's not true. I'm happy to defend where I stand. And I need more people soon enough and just saying what's right. But you know, I'll tell you what, the people in Alabama really are on both sides of the trial, Republican and Democrat. This is five-person agreement that this is just not right. We're lucky in our state. People do agree on this issue and everybody chooses to fight it in their own way. But when it comes to, hey, if you're going to take a poll, this poll, I'm telling you 90% of Alabamaans do not want women athletes trying to get trans women. They do not. This poll is very high on both sides of the aisle. You know, different people have different levels of which they can support it. But nationwide, there's crazy going on. I mean Kamala Harris, her comments regarding this are extremely disturbing, very disturbing. I just, I shudder to think what will happen if she gets elected president is very concerning to me. Well, she's one of those, and this is just a general observation. And I don't know if she's necessarily for or against it. The same thing for Democrat politicians is to take the, whatever you decide you want to be when you wake up. That's what you are and we're a loving, caring country. But she's obviously not going to be out front on this at all. But I do think you're right. I mean, she'll do a lot of these, especially these Democrat politicians, these bureaucrats are just going to just shrug this off and just, you know, let your freak flag fly, whatever you want to be. And then. Well, they're, no, these bureaucrats are going further than that. They are doing harmful things. I mean, what's going on with Title IX and the Department of Education is harmful. They have totally 1500 page ruling that rewrites Title IX. Right, that dangerous. And that's the Biden administration. It will be carried on by Kamala Harris administration. Should she be elected, and it's, it's scary. I'm going to buy a statement just Susan DeBose here on the program. Let's get to some other things real quick. We got you for several more minutes here. The library fight, the, the, the whole public library service and it looks like they're going through some internal, internal turmoil there. But I mean, this still is a, still is becoming an issue. And it's also this like some of these libraries are acting like these are just some very onerous restrictions that have been placed upon them to separate the books that I think most parents will object to, put them in a different part of the library. I mean, they just, they're, they're not going along with what you guys would like to see very willingly, are they? Well, let me say this, the APLS board, the state library board has adopted some new rulings recommended by Governor Ivy, which I completely agree with. They are very reasonable and they don't tell local libraries how to do this. And they just say, the rules just simply say, you know, children's sections need to have books that are appropriate for minors. I mean, that's kind of common sense. There's another ruling in there that says just that you have library cards according to your age. So if you're 18 or under, you can check out books in this section. If you're over 18, you can check out any book. If you have to put it on permission and you're under 18, you can check out any book. So it's just kind of common sense guidelines. I think there may be some libraries that are, make it a bigger to do over than in reality. But look, we've, the board has passed the guidelines. I think they're reasonable. If local boards want to receive state aid, then they need to adopt them. And that needs to be done by October 15th of 2024, because that's when the first quarter of aid, state aid will be sent out to the local library. If they don't want to comply, or they're not ready to do it, then they don't comply. And you won't get to state aid. And maybe you don't need to state aid. Maybe you don't care about it. But it's going to be a local decision in every single case, how the local board's implemented and/or say implemented. So I think that really, I don't see an issue, the rules are there. You can follow them. You can interpret them. You can implement them or not. And if you don't, then you simply just don't get to state aid at certain points. Tell me this. So how much, I mean, state aid, I mean, obviously the varies, I would assume. But how much state aid's really on the line here for these libraries? Yeah, for some of them, it's negligible. Libraries are total, are funded totally by taxpayer dollars, I would say, you know. The majority of it is from local, city, and county dollars. So if you're talking about a larger library, the amount of state aid they receive is insignificant. I think my county library, North Shelby County, has like a one point, I don't know, say it's a $1.8 million budget, they get about $50,000 in state aid. It's not a ton. So maybe they, you know, don't think it's significant. I think it's significant, but that's their choice. But now I will say some of these very small libraries that have maybe, say, a $300,000 budget, their state aid could be very significant. And they need to work. I mean, I would suggest to them that they just, their board simply say, "Hey, we adopt some guidelines and we're going to do our best to start implementing them." I don't think the guidelines are difficult. I think that some libraries maybe are interpreting them differently, maybe they're just protesting. I don't know. I haven't kept up with every little, every single individual library situation because I consider that a local issue and, you know, the local libraries. You need, you know, first of all, you need to have good people on your library board. The boards are appointed, so you need that sure that, you know, you have good people that are elected to your commission or your mayor or city council. They're appointing these board members because the local board members are the ones that adopt these guidelines. And so you've got to have good people there. What has been the general reception to this, at least from your constituents, because, I mean, I look at it and I think, "Wow, I mean, this is really going on in our state, obviously. It's just, it's just weird," but, like, you and I can't be alone here, but, yeah, there's just, I got to think that there are more people who are kind of along our way of thinking representative than there are out to now. Yeah, you don't want a book illustrating explicit sexual acts in the children's section. I mean, that's common sense, and there are a handful of those books that need to be moved to the adult section. I mean, I don't think that it's really as complicated as people want to make it. I think that some librarians just don't want to do it, and so they're over-complicating the issue in order to just stay in their ground. You know, the American Library Association, from which our, to their credit, our PLS board has withdrawn, but the American Library Association does not think that books should be fabricated. They think that every person, regardless of age, should have the right to read every single book, and that children should have reading privacy, which means parents might not even know what the child is reading. And so a lot of these librarians are trained with this American Library Association philosophy. They believe in it. And so they're fighting their little battle. They're fighting back in that way. And so I think to me, in some cases, they're making it more difficult than it is just because they're trying to stand their ground. Well, last question, and we'll wrap it up on this, though, but some of it, like you say, they're standing their ground. How much of it is just they don't want to be told what to do? They're the experts, you guys are the pandering politicians, and you stay in your lane. Yeah. And that's true. That is true. And let me tell you why, because, and this is sort of a tactic of the left, all over. It crosses all the losses, you know, the educated elite left are smarter than we are. They're smarter. And they need to make these decisions for parents and for us regular folks, because we're not a professional librarian. We don't have a degree sponsored by the American Library Association. We don't have that expert knowledge. How dare we, as a parent or a community member, try to say what should be in a library? We're not. We're not capable of that. So the trained libraries need to make all that decision for us. That's the mentality in some cases. Not all, not all libraries are like that, and I'm not proud to speak about every library. But there are those that truly believe that. And that's what, this is what the American Library Association believes. That's what our Alabama Library Association believes. And these are boards, our local boards, who are appointed to represent the people, need to know that, look, you're in charge. You can write these sidelines. You can include parents on committees. You do not have to listen. You're not beholden to your library director. Your library director works for you. You hire the library director. So the boards need to take responsibility and accountability for their community. And they need to represent their communities and listen to their community. And I just think it's going to be a process. It's going to be an evolution. And over time, I think all of this is going to settle down. It's just, you know, it's going to take a little bit of time. And, you know, we need our state library director, Dr. Patt, to fully communicate to all our local libraries about these deadlines. Because I do think she has communicated some information that's confusing. Yeah. And we're going to leave it there. We're up against a hard break here. But thanks for taking time on your vacation. Talk to us. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Stay representative Susan Dubos there. Let's get a break in here. We'll be right back. This is FM Talk. Hello, Mr. T. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between. An insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. Look back to the Jeff Poor Show at FM Talk, 106.5. It's been one of those mornings, guys. You have no idea. 25134430106. That's how you get in touch with the show, if you want, to communicate back and forth. Still to come about a half hour from now, our returning champion, state Senator Chris Elliott. So please make sure that you stay tuned for that. Let's see here. Open questions out there. Prisoner swap. Really, the choreography of it was all the way up to the point where each of them started talking to the press. I need to just, like, you can't do better than this. I will say, and maybe it's just they've changed something about Harris's appearance. To make her look a little more presidential. I don't want the temperatures like a joint base Andrews on the summer night in August, but she'll wrapped up in the wall, look like a wall coat, like it's cold outside. Go, go look at the photos of her last night. I mean, it's hot in DC or Maryland where Andrews is. And I noticed at nighttime, I think they're trying to make her look a little more. I mean, they're avoiding the Hillary pantsuit. They're trying to make her look a little more presidential, I think. But they choreograph all this. I left to the point where she starts talking and you're just like, what the hell is that? Also, cell phones and schools, Randolph County Schools on a pilot program here. Randolph County is like one of these counties at border Georgia in East Alabama with Dowie Roanoke. Look into bad cell phones for 8th, the 12th graders or 7th, the 12th graders. So I guess I assumed that they're banned for kindergarteners to 6th graders. Also, what is an appropriate age to give your kid a cell phone? I didn't get a cell phone until I was like in my 20s. And back then, I mean, it was flip phone or some kind of Nokia device. But we're really testing waters here. 2513430106, and they've text, I'm in the law enforcement for 38 years. Police officers talk and they know which departments are woke and which departments look out for their officers. The woke craze in police departments scared off a lot of police officers in a lot of cities, I guess. I'm a name texture. Democrats are so scared of Kamala having an aha moment. They will literally turn off the microphones in this quarter off the stage. But they don't understand what a bad look that is. That is going to come back to haunt her at some point. The media will try to downplay it, but they won't be able to. It was like when Hillary had her collapse at the 9/11 commemoration right before it. Maybe they're still getting ready. I don't know. Dr. Mariano, you know, damn well, they're going to install her as president, placing one puppet with another totalitarianism is in one place. It hasn't been fully hit yet. The three to four elements have been met. Number one, control the media to ability to dismiss privilege of someone to hold it in from others. Three dividing the population, missing disarmed a population. That's why she cackled so much. It's a nervous, defective laughter. She's still an idiot. Well, I just want to say this about it, though, like, I listened to a clip of Dale Jackson who wanted to look at Van Gogh around and around on this. One of the Van, one of the more outspoken Democrat politicians, and sometimes it's just nonsense. But she's at least outspoken. And our friend Dale Jackson had won the win yelling at each other. If that's your kind of radio, go check it out. But he kept asking her what's name one accomplishment with Kamala Harris. And I think this is a legitimate answer. She's a vice president of the United States. She won an election. She's won several elections. Is it necessarily based on merit? No, but, or is it? I don't know. But you got to have some sharp elbows to get to where you are. Now, ask me to name accomplishment on a policy basis. I can't. I'm sure we're going to hear that in the coming days and weeks and months, but I don't know what her, you know, but killing from a, a prosecutor, then a senator, and now vice president. I mean, that's, that's pretty accomplished to me. They just won't let her say what she really thinks. I think that's what they're afraid of. Well, I thought, I think if we knew where she really stood on something and what she really believed, they might be in more trouble. 2513430106. Come on, this important public speaking, because she's a liar. She can't be sure what narrative she's currently running with. And she's constantly scrambling her thoughts to try to remember what to say. How do we know she's a liar? What is she said to make us think she's a liar though? She doesn't say anything. I need to read it. You don't hear her speak is it's not because she's a liar. She's afraid of lying or contradicting herself. Jason, would you agree that these are getting these Americans back home as the first real accomplishment of the Biden administration? Yeah, I, and I kind of wonder like, I think, I don't know what to make of this, but the reporting said Biden got this deal done on that Sunday morning and in an hour later announced he was dropping out of the race. But now look, if he had dropped out of the race before that, would the Russians have been willing to deal or would the Russians have been sitting there thinking, all right, it's about to be toast. We better hurry up and get this deal done with Biden because the Trump gets in office. It's going to be a lot harder to make a deal. What else we got here? Hey, would simple terms of cell phone horse has not left the barn, but has let the other animals out. Why the push for transgenderism? Family is one of the hedge of money that stands in the way of the Marxist culture revolution being imposed on this country. The guests hit the nail in the head when she said, as part of play destroyed a family, the family Christianity and the Republican nation state are the three greatest remaining impediments to the success of the Marxist revolution. It's a lot there, but is it just like a Marxism or is a sum of this? Maybe there's like five people that are like, yeah, this is how we get them. There's just like everybody else just kind of follows along. Everybody else just kind of following along and then doing what they're told. And I really give it that much thought. I mean, I get back to my wine mom analogy or whatever you want to call it. And I think that like they really do see this as virtuous. They really do see promoting this lifestyle and allowing forting them like just crossing all these social norms that have been established for centuries for eons and just crossing them as if that is some sort of virtue is that and they can just go along with it. They're not really thinking about cultural marxism or any of these. The various sounding movements that we talk about all the time. And it's like the New York Times says this is something that we need to adopt. Well, they're smart smart people read the New York Times are NPR. They see it. I don't know what on TV news, whatever PBS. News hour. David Brooks talked about it so it must be good. He's a Republican. Oh, Ricky, Jeff, did you know cows can't fart? It's impossible because they have stomachs. So climate change because a cow farting is solved. Now, Ricky knows. Adam, Jeff, I just looked up library science. I still have no idea as to what it really is. The things I read sound like small word salad. What a ridiculous, useful thing. Library science is important. We need like archives and the Library of Congress. You need local librarians. I guess understand the intricacies of the Dewey decibel system and no one like how to classify a book or whatever it may be. We need libraries as society. Even though things online, you need a public place where records, documents, newspapers, an archive, local history. You just need a library with books and psychopedias. Children need to know how to go to the library to do research. You can't just Wikipedia everything. I don't think it's useless. I think what they're trying to do within the library science is social engineer. We'll be right back. This is a Jeff Moore show at FM Talk about '06, '05. ♪ In the redneck of heavy air ♪ ♪ Getting crazy ♪ ♪ Getting hammered ♪ ♪ Sittin' right here ♪ ♪ At the floor of ammo ♪ ♪ I fly a starship ♪ ♪ Across the universe divide ♪ ♪ And when I reach the other side ♪ ♪ I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can ♪ Welcome back to the Jeff Moore show at FM Talk about '06, '05. Adam falls up here with this comment. I didn't mean that libraries aren't imported. I love libraries and use them often. I was just for it to the degree. But that's the point. You got to have somebody administering a library. It just doesn't happen. And then I know it's like, well, like I could go in and not have a degree and do this. I don't know if that's necessarily true. Maybe the old, you know, the days of the old librarian telling you to hush or it's a little different now. Technology has changed. And it does require, I don't know, necessarily a library science degree is what you need, but at least some courses. Jock them all trying to war up that cold heart with the world coat. Fire dog. The worst of the parents sticking those kids face in the phone at the grocery store or in the car. This is ADHD related and the kids can't just sit there and school without a phone. Well, somebody who does that will be at a restaurant and then we'll be waiting on our food. And the young man and I go out to eat. We die now on occasion in a bunch of different places. He will want to start climbing around and start bothering other people. Always friendly. I was to play with his straw and blow it bubbles in his water or whatever. Or I could just like set up some clips from YouTube of like Bluey or what he's really gotten into lately is monster trucks and NASCAR races. And then he'll just sit there and watch those and behave. Maybe that makes me a bad dad. Fire dog had show Biden is sharp and has so much energy. Why? That's true. And a texture. She like repeated by how good Biden's health was. Maybe he misled her. I don't know. A name texture. I watch Fox News. Let's consider talk radio. I can't believe how scared and panicked the Republican Party says prosecute her on the border and stop race baiting. What do you have to prosecute her? What's the crime? They won't. They tried. You know, the whole borders are thing. They're trying to distance her from the border. But it's not because of anything she said. It's what she's going to be prosecuted for. And then I mean that in a figurative way. It's for what Biden has said and what Biden has done. Pat, I'm 32. And if I had to find a book in the library, you'd probably find me sleeping in the corner somewhere. I would have seen most blue collar men are in the same boat. Really? You couldn't find a book in the library? It's, I mean even old card catalog system. Now everything's computerized, but this is why I guess people need to learn how to do this stuff. 32. So I'm significantly older than you, Pat. I wouldn't consider myself blue collar. But you could probably figure it out. Pat, here's the deal. If you've ever had the desire or the willingness or the attention to, I'm telling you, you can probably figure it out in a hurry. Say you want to go find the John Grisham book. You walk over to the computer, type in John Grisham, and it gives you a list of the books. You find the one you want and you get the number. And then the numbers are posted up on the shelves all throughout the life. I mean, it's that simple. You can probably pull it off. Mike, good morning, Jeff. I just got over vacationed in London. It was on the subway sitting across from me. It was a young man. To all the 60 hours computer was a sticker that said trans women are women. This is what indoctrination of the youth looked like. Representative Bose and I are talking about that. I just don't understand what's driving this train. Well, Pat, anyway, we'll address that on the other side. 2513430106, type of video. We'll get to your text. This is the Jeff Porchola at the talk when I was six, five. I just fall rolling with the flow. Folks said that I- [music] Welcome back to the Jeff Porchola at the talk when I was six, five. They're sticking around on this Friday morning. What's left of this Friday morning? A quick note here, programming note. I forgot to mention this in the last segment. On Monday's program, Judy Barlow from the Easter Shore Republican Women. He got a big week playing ahead. His BCA circus is coming to town, so they will have some speakers there. And then also our usual visits, our usual visit with Dale Jackson, WVN, Yell Hammer News, and the official Oondol and Gavanc who responded to the Jeff Porchola will be with us on Monday. But joining us now on the line, it is our returning champion state Senator Chris Elliott. Senator, good morning, how are you? I am doing well with a busy week here on the Gulf Coast, but glad it's Friday. That's good to hear. Well, I guess the question we've been waiting to talk to you about, and I know you're aware of it at least, the licensing stuff. And one of your issues here, but this Smith Warren, Keith Warren episode, and him stepping down as CEO of his company. And this has been, y'all have been kind of fighting back and forth over about occupational licensing reform. What do you make of what's going on right now? Well, you know, Jeff, this should be about the most boring topic in all of state government, you know, occupational licensing reform and who and how these licenses are issued and these, you know, boards are administered. But goodness gracious, they have turned this into a very messy public, I think, I think the Smith, yeah, called it a dumpster fire. And they've done it on their own. So they've made it exciting in and of themselves by themselves. This is, this is no way a state agency should run and all the more reason. The administrative functions of these boards do not need to be handled by one private company that has all kinds of internal problems and fights and skirmishes that they decide to air on Facebook and, you know, this is not the way the state should run these boards. And so, you know, we'll try to work again next session to try to set up a professional entity that we can provide the most basic of administrative functions for some of these boards that simply can't afford to hire their own staffs, nor should they, they're not big enough to. But to really save them from this kind of nonsense where websites are being turned off because somebody's pouting because they didn't get what they want or, you know, these extreme fees or getting close to running one board, you know, completely broke because of how much they're charging them. It's just, it's insane. It needs to stop. It's embarrassing for the state of Alabama. And, you know, I'll make another run of trying to fix it in February. It's incredible to be. And I think you and I texted about this. How this is just allowed to go on in that town. And, like, I was in those hallways a little bit this last year and I still thought Stacey this. I know there were like some big, big things gambling and IVF and school choice. And that's what, you know, the Chattering class like I will really spend time on. But always this, what you and Gudger were trying to do there. Everybody's talking about it. It was like one of the kind of below the radar things, but it was, it was very persistent. And a lot of it was just trying to kind of stop your effort. Tell me this though. I mean, like, how hard is it going to be to overcome? And there's a very, very staunch like opposition to what you guys were trying to do. You guys got to kind of overcome that. I mean, I don't even know where to start. Well, look, it's no secret. There is an entire class of people in Montgomery that make money off of government. And how government operates and influencing government, working for government. Whether it's, you know, advertising contracts or administrative contracts or, you know, all kinds of other things. There's a whole class of people that have figured out a way to make money off of the government. And this is no different than that. The problem is these folks that are involved in this occupational licensing administration aren't doing it well. And that's how it first came up on our radars is as they come through the sunset committee, and you look at the examiners of public account reports on these entities, they're being managed poorly. They have all kinds of audit findings from mismanagement of funds, mishandling of funds, misappropriation of funds, putting one board's, you know, fund funds in another board's account and then spending it somewhere completely else. Enforcing license regulations that are not allowed for in the statute so that they can gain additional revenue. It just goes on and on, Jeff. And so when you started digging in a little deeper, you found that you had these little mom and pop shops, you know, set up. They do nothing but make money off of the poor administration of these boards. And it's not fair, frankly, to the board members who are just trying to serve on the auctioneers board or the landscape architect board or the electrical board or the, you know, what was the massage therapy board. And so these folks are getting bad advice. They're not being served well, and then they're not serving these licensees well. And so it's time for us to get a handle on it. But yes, there's always, you know, there's always those legislators who look at you and say, why are you messing with this? Why are you trying to make government run better to leave it alone? It's not hurting anybody. It is. It's hurting small businesses. It's hurting the credibility of the state of Alabama to let people like this hold themselves out to be, you know, representatives of the state, a state agency and then go and act like this. I mean, it just seems like a theme throughout Montgomery. And I know there's like a certain class of people in that building. Don't want to rock the boat. They just did just, we don't need to fight this fight. But like I was kind of talking about it. So folks, this morning. Is it going to take like the governor getting involved here to kind of use the bully pulpit there and say, Hey, guys, fix this? Well, look, the governor, the governor is certainly supportive of the reforms that I'm trying to make. And she was the last session, and I expect that they will be the session. I'm already been in contact with her office about, you know, how to how to pivot a little bit and attack this a different way. The problem is we can't have certain lobbyists get in the air of one or two senators or one or two house members and just holding up legislation that would impact thousands, probably tens of thousands of Alabama workers just to make their experience with government better and cannot be built by people that are acting like this. It's wholly unfair. So is the governor's involvement crucial? Yes. Do I hope she'll lead on this issue? Of course I did. It makes good sense because this nonsense that you've been reporting on 1819 is just embarrassing. And it needs to stop. There's more behind that. There just, there is. And it shouldn't take the actions of the sunset committee feeling what they did last year with Senator Gudger's bill to completely dissolve the board of massage therapy, reconstituted and housed in somewhere completely different. You shouldn't have to do that. You should, you should provide a very simple clearing house, you know, entity that can provide basic administrative services for these very simple boards so that they don't have to go out and engage folks like this because that's their only option. I joined my state senator Chris Elliott here on the program, but Senator, and I don't know how serious this was when this discussion came up. But they're turning into the session when a couple of your bills, I know you've refiled them with the archives in history. But it was just like, well, this was a sacrificial lamb because you wouldn't play ball on gambling. It's just strange, but I mean, was that really what happened there that you didn't get it? Did they get time in the, in the house or whatever? Because there's a sort of a give and take? Yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that's exactly what happened. And that's not always the case. Sometimes you truly do just run out of time, but those bills all had single digit numbers or most of them did at single digit numbers. And they were, you know, ready for house action within the first couple of weeks of the session. And so the fact that they weren't able to, you know, to move through the house was tackling a lot, you know, based a lot on gambling and individual members, you know, position on gambling. Now, hopefully we won't have that for the remainder of the quadrantium because we won't have this gambling conversation anymore that ends up getting in the way of good pieces of legislation, good conservative pieces of legislation. The Republicans in both chambers would otherwise be a support of. And so, you know, any, you know, sometimes that back and forth is expected. It was unfortunate that it was as clear cut as it was, you know, last session that, you know, clearly it was held up because of gambling and positions and discussions about gambling. And it really kind of hardens my results and make sure we don't have any more gambling conversation because otherwise you get good pieces of legislation called up and. Did it give the Smith Warrens out there like a lifeline or anything, because here's what I think, like, especially where we sit right here now on August 2nd. And we're watching all this kind of drama unfolded. It really is drama where you have, like, the Mary partners, having it out on Facebook or something weird like that. But now I would say you have more of a license to do a little bit more. With this issue and really kind of rid the world of these opportunists. Well, I think you're right. And look, there's two phases really to any type of complex legislation like this that impacts, you know, something that an existing problem and then to propose a solution and then to affect that change. And in one step one has got to be you've got to draw attention to the problem and be able to clearly articulate what the problem is and and frankly get members to see and appreciate and understand that yes, this is a problem. And I think that over the last, frankly, two years and now with even more of this messiness unfolding along with the continued very good work of the examiner public accounts and their work to demonstrate and independently articulate what the problems with these boards are that members are really starting to see. Yes, this is a mess. This is a problem. And yes, we need to fix it. It was not something that was on everybody's radar before I still had members towards the end of last session and if it's really an issue that I think they're all seeing. Yes, this is really an issue. And so now, of course, the time is right to go ahead and propose a solution to that issue and effect that change and get it done. It's not surprising that it's taken this long to get it done, but but I think this is the year to go ahead and accomplish that goal. Well, still it basically that there are people, like, I mean, how hard do you have to, or how unaware or really just out of it, you have to be to like, see this situation, no, it's not really fair and on the up and up and, and just let it continue to linger. And for whatever reason that seems like there's enough people that are just like, okay, yeah, but we'll fight that battle another day or whatever but but I mean, this has been a long standing thing in this town. I've been hearing about occupational license reform in Alabama government for at least the last decade, if not longer. Oh, you're correct. And the Alabama policy Institute has been hot on it for well over a decade. Senator Marsh worked on this when the Republicans first took over in 2010 and did a lot of streamlining and state government. They just weren't able to get to this so, you know, make no mistake, this is a heavy lift. This is a big attempt to try to get, you know, bring this to heal and get this in line for the small businesses that, you know, that serve in these occupations and fly these trains. And, and so it is a challenge. You do the fight, but, you know, that's not something I've ever backed down from and not something I intended to back down from here. This is a problem in government. It needs to get fixed and we will continue to work on it and until it gets fixed and I've got good partners in the house that understand this as well. And, and we're going to move forward with it along with the governor's support. Get it across the finish line. Well, last question on this drama. Tell me this. One of the hagups here is what do you do? Like, if you do away with the system, you try to overhaul it. You, you, and I think you mentioned you put it kind of in the realm of the Secretary of State, but they have pushed back hard. I mean, is, is that part of the problem here? Why this isn't moving? Number one, but number two, I mean, is it, would you still go in that direction? Or is there another alternative here? Yeah, I was really disappointed in the Secretary's debate, not, not taking the opportunity to really streamline government and make it work a whole lot better. But, you know, that's, that's kind of water under the bridge. It was, it was a, it was a good opportunity to really bolster some conservative bona sides there. But, you know, I think that what the governor's office has proposed to set up a just a, an office under the Department of Workforce and Labor that handles, you know, the basic paperwork for, you know, these occupational license and transactions. If there's not a hair's worth of difference between processing a landscape architect's license and processing a auctioneer's license. I mean, it's a couple of checkboxes and move on. And so the same clerks in the same office with the same stapler can do that. And they don't need to go out and hire these individual, you know, companies out there that are kind of doing this on the side, you know, for, you know, for, for, you know, for a fee when they can get that same service in a much more efficient manner and professional manner. And one that will be done uniformly by, you know, a state employee with oversight and the resources that need to do this. And it will be more cost effective, you know, to do it that way. And most importantly, you will not have your website going dark in the middle of the night because somebody questioned how much your contract was going to be. And you sure won't have this messy Facebook drama, you know, between spouses going on in the background on Facebook. Senator got to leave it there, but we always appreciate your time. Let's talk again soon. Sounds great. Y'all all have a great weekend. Go to the Trump parade tomorrow on the water. Yeah. Oh, we should have talked about that, but we're out of time. Say Senator Chris Elliott. We'll be right back to says the Jeff for show on F and Talk 10065. Here's the door. From Carolina down to Georgia Smell the Tasman and Magnolia Sleepy sweet home Alabama Royal tide of road money, water, Mississippi plays a great slant whispers to me. Carry home. Carry home. Sweet weather and comfort. They just stick it around on what's left of this Friday morning to appreciate you listening. Yes, Matthew, the new CEO, CFO of Smith Warren, Manzor company is a musician, according to his LinkedIn profile. That's what I hear a piano player, so I don't know what to make of that. And yes, it does fade in and fade out something I'm working on. More on that, Jim. Hopefully we get that rectified here in the coming days. Anyway, code up Monday on the program. We'll have Judy Barlow for these short public and women also on the program. Dale Jackson, he is WVNN. Y'all, Hammer News, and the official wonderling event corresponded to my program. I'm going to be stood out of title officially on him on Monday. Come up here shortly, mid-day, Mobile, Sean. What you got for him? Hey, Jeff. Yeah, just a couple things coming up in the first hour. Let me promo this. Scott Johnson from Laneyap is going to be on his cover story for this week's Laneyap bad rap. More of some of these high profile arrests in the state and a discussion of gangs in the area. You know, you and I have talked about this before, back in the day. You know, it was, well, we don't have gangs. And then it was, well, we had gangs, but they're, you know, they're not affiliated gangs. And then we get, you know, it goes down the list. Now the discussion that Sheriff Birch has put out about the gangs and what they're doing to stop them and then how it's interwoven with some of these rappers here locally. We'll get into that with Scott at 1230, 1235. Also, you mentioned no cell phones in schools. Now that was always a thing for, not always, but for quite a while for my children at their school, but they're talking about schools across the state. I know you'll have a story up op ed over at, or a story up at 18, 19 news about it. Did you also see that no Crocs hoodies or backpacks in this mix? Crocs being banned in Alabama schools. So we'll talk about that as well as taking a look at what happened with the transfer of prisoners that entered the transfer portal plus Robert Kennedy Jr. on the on the ballot here in Alabama. That and a whole lot more coming up on the day movie. I'm okay with the Crocs, but the backpacks? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, what are you going to do without your Jansport man, other than the clear backpack, right? Yeah, well, I guess you got to do that in some places, but let me Jansport needs a clear backpack. Yeah, I wonder if they have them. I'll Google that while you wrap up your show. Alright, I got to get out of here. It has been a pleasure. Thanks for sticking with us. I always appreciate it. Sartfelas, I forgot to say goodbye. This has been the Jefport show at FMTalk 106.5. This is where the cowboy rides away. [Music]