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Is A Roman Reigns Return Imminent? | WWE Smackdown 8/2/2024 Full Show Review & Results

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1h 14m
Broadcast on:
03 Aug 2024
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Kate (@MissKatefabe) and Alex (@_AlexisCardoza) discuss tonight's episode of Smackdown, including:

-Logan Paul returns home

-WWE Women’s Tag Team Championship Match:The Unholy Union (C) vs Jade Cargill & Bianca Belair

-WWE Tag Team Championship Match: #DIY vs The Bloodline

-Cody Rhodes & Solo Sikoa come face to face


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My goodness to SummerSlam already, and we have a lot to talk about with tonight's episode, so please leave a thumbs up on this video. Get in those super chats, get in those humper chats at humper chats.com. Sean is going to have Scoop Schullower coming out of SummerSlam. He is there doing some interviews, some great interviews that already got posted, some more that are going to be coming out soon, but he is in Cleveland. God bless him for going to Cleveland, but SummerSlam SmackDown. Here we are. It wasn't my favorite episode, it wasn't the worst, but what did you think overall tonight? That middle was long. The end was not going to be from what it looked like. That last match was a minute and a half long, so other than that, very go homey as we like to say here whenever we have a go home episode of WWE SmackDown. It is. It is very go homey, but we're going to get into all of that and more. 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They should have just kept the titles on theory in Waller and had them put over the bloodline. I think because of the type of wrestlers that Gargano and Champa are, it has some more cache because there's like this dissension story that happened with theory in Waller, right? This is like work rate guys who are a unified team, plus it being in Gargano's hometown. Bloodline's going to get extra massive heat. But that's kind of what we closed the show with was that exact thing we had. That angle. Let's talk about that first, since that's what everybody wants to talk about here. A really, really good match, DIY losing, Jacob Fatu continues to show out every time he's in the ring, really fun match, really good stuff. It doesn't feel like to me. The splitting of the tag titles and the re-establishing them, the presentation and all that really has cemented itself. It does feel once again like these titles are a prop in the bloodline story. We didn't really need to split things up to do that, did we? That's what happened already with the Uso, so it feels like we're kind of just going back to that, but it's a bummer to me because I get why this has to happen. I think it sets up some really interesting possibilities for tomorrow. I think it almost guarantees that Roman Reigns is going to be in that main event with solo and Cody, but it sucks for the other half of it. I understand the wrestling sense it makes. It just took them so long to give DIY anything to really properly do that I'm bummed at how much of a lack of a reign we got from them, but great main event. What did you think of what closed the show tonight before we go back to looping it up chronologically here? What were your thoughts? I went into this week, you know, I was talking behind the scenes with Freddie and Jeff. And anytime someone goes into their hometown as a champion, it's always a high percentage chance that you don't come back out as a champion. And tonight, prove that so much. Do I feel like the rain was a little short? Yeah, obviously, but it could set up for a nice, nice feud here going into, you know, the future here of where WWE is going, you know, they're what a month away from going into USA. So a lot of changes happening. And with that, you know, you might see a change in attitude in the programming, right? Like today, they were blacking things out at the entrance way, if you noticed, and the censoring issue. So there might be a change in things to come. And I would say just let them cook. Bloodline is very hot. So everything's going to go towards bloodline. Absolutely everything. Bad robot. Oh, he's so supportive of us. I love the bad robot. Thank you. He's not even that bad, to be honest, but hello, every show. I'm glad the tag titles are back to being props in the bloodline story. That's exactly what I was saying. There we go. I hope night squashes that moron in seconds, top tier tweets tonight, Kate, and all the love Alex. I kind of went off and I'll do it again, because I've got a love for Logan Paul, but we appreciate the chat. Feel free to get in those super chat centers. Anything you want to talk about summer slam wise as well, since it's kind of a thinner show tonight, let's do some rec spec, okay? We have the Joe's thin, I'll get there, I'll get there. We did have a prediction show with Stephanie Chase on this channel. I feel like there's also a pre show tomorrow that's hosted by Rob Wilkins. It's a great time. He has accounts for not doing a three hour pre show, I will maintain that. Come on, man, but what are you expecting tomorrow? Do you expect that Roman costs solo? Do you expect that solo wins and Roman shows up after and Cody has to win it back down the line? Like, where are your thoughts about tomorrow's main event and who you're expecting to return is it just Roman? Is it the rock in Rome, is are we having more people from Japan show up here, right? Like, what are, what are we doing with this main event tomorrow? I'm intrigued to see where this goes. I think there's a real possibility you get Roman. I think there's a real possibility you get the rock. Hiculeo is an interesting one to see if that is the right spot for him, but there's a lot of ways they could go with this man. I think we know we're headed into survivor series, this bloodline versus bloodline war probably how we get there is interesting. What do you think? The rock and Roman connection, maybe? I don't know. We'll see what happens, but the rock and Roman connection brother. I do think that it's been too long, so Roman's definitely showing up. It's you're going to have to start saying who won, he defended his title like once every six months, but I spent too long, we need to have him back on TV. I mean, people are clamoring for him and crying at the entranceway of every arena looking for Roman. It'll be a nuclear explosion in Cleveland tomorrow. If this does happen, you might feel seismic earthquake, the earth will shift because they're going to go wild for him, how this happens and who joins him is up to what they do. I don't want to speculate on that because he could very well just be the center focus of this return, right? It'll be cool if you do have him come out and then all of a sudden am armchair quarterbacking right now the new bloodline is like, all right, you want to come in here and come. You're feeling froggy jump, bro, and then you hear, boom, the final boss thing come out and then then things are really going to go crazy, right? So it's going to be a fun night tomorrow. It feels like summer slam of past of yesteryear because that's what I remember what summer's land was like. It was my favorite one out of all the pay per views over WrestleMania. Oh, yeah, yeah, because you know, it meant like it was the end. To me, it was the end. I knew school was starting a month later by the end of the summer. Summer ween is here like I just felt it all it was in my body, you know, and here we are feeling it again, that feeling that I felt when I was 13, 14, 15 years old, it's here for tomorrow. I love that. I love that you have that attachment to this particular pay per view. It does feel like much more of a blockbuster than some years ago. So I am excited for that and I think it's the biggest party of the summer case if we can knew that man hot scoop it's the biggest party of the summer that's what's up, but I agree with you. I actually think the rocket Roman challenging for the tag titles is such a fun way for them to be aligned with Cody, but not like at Cody's assistance all the time like it doesn't need to be Cody and friends again. We already saw that with that story against the day last year. The idea that the rocket Roman are the same side of things. They're going to go after I think sets up some really fun possibilities and also allows for the rock or Roman to turn on each other later. Let's get to that match finally without the title and without Cody winning Royal Rumble like a couple weeks before it's not that we didn't want that match is that we didn't want it that way and at that place, but let's still do that match I'm waiting for it. Will says I need to see Oba versus Jacob at some point I am in agreement with you. Oba versus Gunther is the one for me if you're not familiar with who opens he is an NXT talent and he is he's the next big thing bad he so full of charisma. He literally can shot put couches. I say that and you're like oh ha ha ha no they did vignettes where this guy could shot put a couch he's freakishly strong he's picked up on this business very quickly he is he's going to be a generational talent. I think I know that phrase gets thrown around a lot but within WWE I think like next up kind of guy he's he's the one he's the one well let's get in to the rest of this show. We kind of loop back and forth right here we get this Cody and solo face to face segment to open it so we get to keep talking about the bloodline a little bit here commentary introducing a couple of title matches before Cody enters the ring wants to know what they want to talk about who they want to talk about he gets solo sakoa's name in his mouth calls without solo sakoa joins him in the ring and the crowd is off to the racist with the Roman chance as solo acknowledges them here Cody compares him and solo and calls him the younger brother which I liked in this it talks about solo's kind of journey and to wrestling before he's interrupted by solo sakoa and he accuses Cody of wasting time and then I loved it so much I feel like people are way too hard on solo I think he's actually really good on the way he just stopped him from talking you're wasting my time bro and I love it because I feel like Cody is very flowery and verbose and that works for a lot of people and sometimes it works for me not always and I love that he was like summer slims tomorrow let's get to business but we find out that solo challenges Cody to a bloodline rules match in case you had Eddie doubt that Roman raids in the rock we're showing up tomorrow there you go but Jacob Fatu Tomatanga and Tonga Loa appear I really think Hichela is going to come back on the heel side but Cody accepts the challenge knowing it might not be wise because baby faces are stupid so yeah yeah they are in in this presentation it drives me crazy and also drives me crazy it actually drives me more crazy they kind of straightened an out in a w but when swerve was had two angles in a row where he didn't see someone coming from behind to attack him I was like that guy is street smart there's no way swerve shouldn't see things coming like that Cody is a little bit too in my opinion he's presented as like I trust everyone all the time until you prove me wrong so I'm a little bit more forgiving on this one but solo goes to attack but then decides hey we're gonna wait till tomorrow for that and there's not really a physical altercation here but commentary kind of noting Cody is predictable in these sort of things and questioning rather solo has the authority really to live up to Roman's legacy and in a way here but kind of a typical opener but it's one that the crowd was hot for it's one that I think we all kind of like know what's coming so even though this is a little bit more standard and I think Cody's programs need a little bit more juice this one just has so much anticipation about what's to come that I kind of stomached it a lot better what did you think of what we got out of this I was happy to see solo kind of take that role of a like you know the heel who is just tired of Cody in general just talking and talking and the same freaking spiel every single time he's out there it's like burberry them like you could hear it over and over you can you literally have this promo in your head you're just installing the new town and installing different verbiage into it that is it like it's like but but long form is the same thing that's what I want to see because if you're going to have solo now go into a huge bout with his cousin he we need to believe that he is a badass yes he can't because the thing is Roman is such a empowering figure now he is he's been built to be this wrestling god that solo when you look at him you know smaller and stature like kind of reserved to himself now he's starting to come out of that show he's like who the f are you right like why are you talking to me so very good I enjoyed it I enjoyed it like you said it was a the same old dog and pony show right but but seeing solo stand up for himself and solo kind of just like hey you know we're gonna do bloodline rules is what you want bro i'm gonna give it to you that was really cool it's about time we see that solo come out yeah I feel like it was a segment that he needed more than Cody needed in a way yes yes 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and cody and randy okay i don't think it happens here i think in the survivor series match roman gets like i almost said roman gets turned on by the rock wow oh easy killer i didn't throw it on roman uh so i i think that's the long play i don't think we get that here but do you have any fun like off the wall conspiracy theory bookings for tomorrow uh no i mean mine are not really any conspiracy might i haven't really thought about it that way i've only been thinking about the sense of like you know who's coming back and how how enormous of a of a night it will be um but not really any any like i've been listening a little off topic here i'm about to but there's been a lot of conspiracy talk hey guys i'm here to tell you about ebay auto ebay motors is the leading online platform for automotive dealers to get their inventory in front of over seven million ready to buy shoppers who are buying cars and trucks on ebay motors every three minutes every single day they make it easy to find 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That is fair i mean Jesse Ventura just gave back on monday like he is the host of conspiracy theory man and you can i just say something i saw that picture come up on him i'm home back home home home home home right because that's the hashtag home i'm like all i wrote was isn't he da da da and i left it blank and i was just like don't go there Alex yeah tonight we're just gonna let that one sit there we're just gonna welcome you inside home Ricardo says hi miss kate hi carto's i hey hey love you all well we love you too thank you so much for the love and support you Ricardo's always great to us too we have somebody loyal people here it's awesome yo for real yo friday nights can i just say something the friday night crew here that you guys hang out with us on fridays and show us love and starry with me with pennies i really love you guys and like it's it's so amazing right i feel like i should be on a pole stripping for you guys in the background too but all those super chats and 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warranted without goonther having to take a loss and with your champion still staying strong in a sense so that maybe fen baller comes in and causes some sort of issue or maybe live wargin comes in or ria makes her presence known or whatever like something happens there to cause some sort of disqualification that warrants a rematch in bashon berlin so to answer your question i would have goonther win at bashon berlin do you have any thoughts on on that do you think davey and priest just retains here and then they do have a match at bashon berlin or do you see goonther going over and depending at bashon berlin i would have i would actually like him a lot more going into berlin as it just would feel the the episode would feel most so much bigger the paper repeatedly just like him coming in like defending it could be it could be a rematch against him it could be whoever you know but yeah i don't know i would really like to see sometimes i want triggers to be pulled and this is the time for it because gonther is just so cool man he is and having him win on a big deal pay-per-view i don't i don't hate that idea either if i were booking it i would have a win at summer slam i think their math tells us maybe otherwise but we'll say katie collie jake up a stupid bitch pops me got to love a good stupid bitch call out it's not as good as your brain is so empty they're going to set up a spirit halloween there but we're going to talk about that all shortly hey you know how a couple weeks ago i said i can't say like i don't miss because i sound stupid or whatever carmallow haze i also can't say like that hooped but i'm going to say it because carmallow and andrade hooped she said that to me just to let everyone know don't stop me out and i said we are completely changing the show we're now doing nba prime time and i said i want round ball rock if that's the case we're going to cover the mba and fightful from now on oh my gosh Jeremy would be so jealous of us but andrade and carmallow tearing it off again this match was so awesome easily easily match of the night like i loved what we got here this ending sequence is so good with haze going for the code breaker but andrade reversing it into the figure four i thought was awesome and haze pulls himself to the ropes for the the break you get a super kick from haze and another one because that's the only thing like it would have been nice if he sold the legwork a little bit but uh he goes up top misses the nothing but net and they trade rollups with andrade winning this match was so good man but why the hell is carmallow haze losing again like i feel like the plan is l.a. night wins tomorrow if that wasn't the plan i certainly think it is now in the past 48 hours but i figured that was always the plan anyway and we have all this history now with l.a. night and carmallow and i thought carmallow would be the next challenger up don't you want that guy winning going into that story like don't shouldn't that guy be riding a hot streak so that he's worthy of title contention on the way i don't get it i don't get why you're doing this to a first round draft pick that you made such a big deal out of he shows out in every match he's got he hasn't been involved in a proper proper feud he's had the stuff with l.a. night kind of in the background he's now had a couple of matches with andrade but like this guy is like future wwe main event or material broadbreaker is like entrenched you know what i mean sure i was kind of thinking that carmallow would be entrenched in the same way on the smacked outside and that just isn't what we're getting hopefully l.a. night wins carbell is the challenger great way to start that off but it's just so odd to me that you wouldn't want carmallow winning going into that what did you think of this match and where do you see the booking going because i'm confused i love on dryday winning but what are we doing with mellow i just i feel like right now carmallow is just finding himself they're going to be you know sometimes losses means that you're going to win in a certain way right like you just add these up and eventually he's going to come out on top in a big big way so maybe this is where they're trending like hey trust us this is what's going to happen and this is where you're going you know they went to i call it going to the well right because they went back to these two again which play they play against each other really really so for me it was just like all right i'm i'm like i told you before it was like 46 minutes long i don't mind it i don't fight you know they had it it was like free emotion in the freaking ring they were so good so yeah i just i'll give it a little bit of time if we see caramel not jump out of this funk i'm gonna get worried because i feel like with him they're gonna see him as a boxing wrestler to a certain spot we know this this has been said before wrestlers have said it once you're penciled in and boxed in somewhere that's where you're going to be but the difference is like we're brombreaker he's been shot to the moon yeah i feel like i agree with you that these block suits could pay off if they had built up on draw day first i would have way less of a problem with this but it's not like he's facing someone that was riding some wind streak at blue swing so it's like you've had a few overcomes on draw day it's like it's kind of not that big of a deal because he's just the speed champion right i think he's done the speed champion the speed yes speed vicky i watch at every wednesday on twitter hey vicky hello i know you're gonna say you watch it every wednesday on speed but vicky says hello kate hi kate and elective cash for you i need to be on speed if i'm going to watch that just to keep up with the three minutes oh i tried i'm sorry everyone this is the third week in a row that i'm just a piece of crap you are not a piece of crap you were just errant about who are sponsors well i'm just 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rumble i don't know if la night needs a super long title reign uh they could hot potato it back and forth a little bit i would be fine with that but santos escobar has been doing nothing but great work they had nothing lined up for him after the brand's uh shake up after the draft again but nice to see him winning here nice to see that he's still featured like there's two struggles i feel like a wwe and one is am i getting tv time and two is what is the value of that tv time in the first one they need to line up the ladder but not much to say about this you had uh both crews that ring the side so you had baren corbett out there with the paul crew so that alliance and and uh tag team seems to be continuing to move along here uh any thoughts on this just good to see my man on television doing some meaningful things you know it's just uh i i continue to say it and it sounded like he had a little bit of a little pissing vinegar in him today like he was upset about the fact that the family has been uh been let down you know um no one's winning things haven't been moving and grooving for him for santos so i'm glad to see him until and you know a little later too like i'll let you guys know man he has a nice little project that i helped set up for him uh you guys get ready for that sorry i'm having headphone issues over here so we're gonna do a lot of how dare you if you guys want to bet on if our headphones are gonna work but we're gonna do our best with it um but i'm excited for this this little project that you are referring to but some good stuff there i want to see santos escobar lined up for something and as i'm trying to play this beauty game we move out to this logan paul segment which Alexa said he didn't want to review because he doesn't want to talk about logan paul so which i say i get it but uh it is our responsibility of the post show to review it so i will give you my thoughts on the segment and i will recap it and then i will also tell you my opinion on things i mean i can i can give you an opinion if you really need it i just uh things is just i'm i'm a professional i'm i can separate my personal feelings from what we're doing here so uh i wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to because some things are way bigger than wrestling but let's talk about this because i also thought the segment kind is touched to be honest listen he's an athletic dude with mediocre at best ring psychology i don't get what this promo was he comes out he says he's not gonna lose it his hometown he is cleveland and that immediately says jk i got out of cleveland i became something like i i escaped this place basically i i didn't get that at all uh he's really doesn't say a whole heck of a lot here he doesn't say really a ton about la night the crowd is not like a hometown crowd which is actually good because he's the heel so good job cleveland but la night interrupts him just as his banner is dropping from the rafters and it's a picture of logan paul and it just says yeah across the front of it which was good uh and logan paul getting interrupted by la night was the best thing that could have happened to either of them uh there's a really fun interaction with pretty deadly who is still pushing this this uh musical that they're gonna have in new york which i'm excited about uh but the the big line in this is he says logan paul's head is so empty that it's he's going to put a spirit halloween in there which as an enthusiast of halloween i'm sure popped you but also what what a fantastic line i loved that that was one of my favorite problems i've ever heard uh but what did you think of the segment? as i mentioned before i'm separating the two so with that being said he's been doing a really good job of promos up until today i felt like today's promo was heavily heavily scripted for him and then that sound like the normal logan paul it sounded like the very first couple of promos when he used to come out and just make fun of people and just like blabber that's what today felt like right um it felt very awkward it didn't feel fluid like it was in the past um obviously la night came out he kind of saved it actually he did save it the whole segment of him walking backstage the him him just kind of like talking down at him it it really his felt way more natural than whatever he was he was saying even when he's running to get the prime truck and then afterwards when he's talking uh to nick aldis it just didn't it didn't click for me it didn't feel like it felt like just basically like hey what watch the crowd watch what you're saying because today's gonna be hot for you out there you know so just follow these guidelines and just read word for word what you got to do out there by the way shout out to nick aldis who's every every time he's in the ring he's in the goddamn corner looking sly as hell always leaning in the turntable if you watch every single time nick aldis is out there and there's something going on in the ring he's always like like 007 chilling in the back waiting for the girl to come by to pick him up in the corner just looking so good man looking so but your girl is nicky james hell yeah but oh man yeah i would also say uh what i love about nick aldis's presentation is that he's smart like everything about him is a step ahead of a lot of the talent he comes across as intelligent the way he moves it delivers things he enforces the rules that are given by complaint about out of pierces he's like listed drew drew buddy uh you were mean to referee so we have to extend your suspension but i came to terms with the serial killers that have been walking around here they're fine they got signed like that is weird here on smackdown things make a lot more sense and i i really appreciate that i agree with you with logan paul it was almost like he was detached from the fact that this feud has been building for months like he did kind of come out and do his same old schtick instead of leaning into like the bro you broke into my house and you peed at my pool as confirmed my fightful like he didn't say no i didn't so i'm just saying but um yeah and you know what like i'm very thankful that here i have room to say things that i feel like i have a responsibility to say and i've just a very tired of this pattern of behavior with logan paul there are mistakes you make when you're young and stupid and i made plenty of them myself there are things that i would never say again there are things that i would never do again uh that i said and did in my early 20s or whatever right um but when you have what happened in japan which i'm not even going to say the words about when you have him using Puerto Rico for a tax loophole and saying bad buddy did the same thing when he's from there and gave back to victim relief when you have him uh having this crypto scam that has not been resolved and marketing caffeine to children like these are not isolated incidents and he's not 19 anymore i'm so sick of this and then after this weekend i was like you know what they always say the best characters are yourself turned up to 11 and logan's been presented as an asshole who isn't concerned with taking his pride in his work and having an integrity and just chasing internet clout this weekend he stirred up hate that will follow an olympic women's boxer for the rest of her life because he was too careless to use google and refer to her literally as pure evil and he rectified this by tweeting oopsies and holding an internet poll that's just so unbelievably unacceptable she is from a country where being trans is illegal that is going to follow her yeah rest of her frickin life and he can't even use the phrase i'm sorry like i'm i got nothing for this guy i part of why i hated the segment so much i'm sure is because i was watching through a filter of being frustrated and annoyed and kind of enraged and i'm very thankful that i get to work somewhere that says wrestling is for everyone fightfuls for everyone there are certainly nuanced discussions that i'm certainly not qualified to be weighing it on about like trans representation in sports i'm sure there are biological advantages and disadvantages i'm not leading that discussion logan paulshire is hell shouldn't be leading that discussion and he sure is hell shouldn't be stirring up hate in the trans community at all especially when the person wasn't even trans it was representing representing a country where it's illegal and then just say oopsies as your frickin apology is asinine and unacceptable i'm sorry that's like rant rant done but like i felt like i should come out here and say that because i think it's a load of crap and uh i can't let that go unchecked because guess what's more important than wrestling people's safety like general safety of people in the world general safety of women in the world especially criminal color and it seems like by the way all of the women who get misgendered as being trans that are actually just like cisgendered women or were born women or however you want to say that like i've seen for instances that all of them are black so if you still think that black women are not the most vulnerable population in the world i don't know what to tell you but we will move the frick on get in your super chance get in your hopper chance that didn't make me happy but i will tell you what makes me happy i'm going to take a little ad break it come down here but i am happy about our sponsors i am thankful for our sponsors i am thankful that we have all this wrestling we have all these amazing paper views and i'm thankful that there's one really great way to watch them if maybe the finances of them are catching up to you a little bit and maybe you just need to be in a different country to i have long talked with you guys about the content that you can access with nord vpn.com/fightful but it doesn't just stop at pro wrestling you can get mma and boxing paper views at a much more 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ponytails and hoodies well that's pretty much what i wear whenever frickin possible so if you want some luck you're going to get to see it a lot here on fightful i host a lot of shows here and i wear it a lot but same you'll see me meet normous saying uh k one more from tuesday your internet is on the fritts and tantrums i'll show myself out on tuesday nights we do a very fun thing where we have wrestling puns combined with something else uh in tuesday's was music puns because of joe henry's concert so if you want to get sour on sour grabs reviewing nxt come hang out there but we move on with will's chat you're saying when is triple h going to cut the check to y'all the latinos are winning that is true see just us kabarnandrade both winning today and the new blair witch faction oh i love that the blair witch faction well i am kind of conflicted uh about this but let's talk about what we got tonight with our women's tag team title picture i will say i probably should have seen this coming and i didn't but there's a few things that are confusing here we get a dq ending in this because we get interference from blair davenport now this is good we've been talking about how blair davenport is a great wrestler who needs some creative direction that they really haven't heated her up or gotten her going the blair witch faction that rules uh is a good way to go about business i was honestly expecting either the unholy union to drop because it felt like they won as a fluke or i was expecting a heel turn from bianca on jade or vice versa we got neither tonight i'm assuming that dq means that jade and bianca are probably going to have to find a friend as well so we'll see what happens there but i am very glad that the unholy union didn't drop tonight because they've had like one defense and it's been on ed xt and before they won the titles they were not tv for like a year i want them to be established because they can wrestle man they're really good i don't have to tell you you're in love with them but i'm an ed xt tag title match on tuesday and it was so good and it was so refreshing just to see them show out so absolutely love that kind of confused because it feels like we have like an unintentional women's trios division you have damage control you have uh the tiktok tag team with lyra valkiria now you have the unholy union with blair davenport uh i don't know where we're going with all that you have uh shayna sonya and zoey like there's there's all these uh women's trios that are looming around but you can't just not like a trios belt start like so what do we do with that it's kind of an odd thing but uh i'm not mad about this i just didn't expect it and i'm intrigued to see where it goes uh i know that you love your spooky scottish witches that aren't really spooky or witches anymore but we can get in there they'll they'll turn back that way after uh once halloween comes around the bermonts as you like to say bers what did you think of this match and are you intrigued to see where this goes to i'm kind of into it listen i'm in love while i was going it's just i know you are pumpkin can we just admire we just admire her wrestling please dear god i can talk for an hour and a half on her and her smile and just and i'll seriously trust me i am um for her uh i think that it's a little uh i didn't wanted to end the way it did right where someone had to come in and kind of like um you know end the match would be a dq i i could understand that they're trying to add a little bit of flair into this again this is one of the things clean so it'd be stronger you mean like that it would be like they haven't had a lot of defenses get a strong one of your bill i got you yeah yeah like um also where are we going are we now looking into trio's titles for the women we can barely defend the the tag teams i don't i don't know i don't understand what just happened there i really i'm completely lost because i feel like the only way that you're gonna make these titles mean something and make the tag teams the women tag teams feel bigger than what they are is if you let them fight and you let them you know do what they got to do in the ring and this was a perfect example where you have you know i don't have a fire kind of go up against these two behemoth of women that could literally crush me with their legs and air out of my body like come on man like these two goddesses were getting their butt whipped a little bit there tables were turned and then she comes i'm like oh man as soon as the sore come and i'm like i don't even know why they're doing this like they should have just found an easier way for them to to win that that match right like something else in the ring uh little you know like solo did he spiked a muscle chump or in the throat find something you know i'm with you i feel like they could have used a clean defense to make them appear stronger as a tag team my other thing is blare dev import wrestles bigger than she is and i mean that in a very positive way she gives you the illusion that she is like a heavy because of the style that she wrestles and the way that she carries herself she's taller than a lot of the gals in wrestling but she's not like bigger than a calie ray right so so that's my kind of thing. 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It was like she's not really there as a heavy or something so i am intrigued to see where it goes i don't disagree that it would have been nice if they had like five really strong defenses under their belt before they just do something like this but like also my kingdom for Blair Davenport to have consistent creative on television so it's a little bit back and forth for me but i get what you're saying a keel with a really sweet chat thank you so much thank you first super chat thank you for our super chat congratulations for marginalized communities i always will and i will always be mathy about it and i am just very thankful that i work somewhere that is full of people a that also do the same thing that starts with Sean and be give me the space to be able to do that because it's it's not fun and i get a lot of people that don't share that opinion that come after me but i'm just very thankful that i work somewhere that recognizes there are a lot more important things in this world than professional wrestling even though everybody here is extremely dedicated to it so thank you for the chat that is that is very kind and that begins more to me than you probably been realized so thank you uh will sing with all these women's factions and wwe is rosy from marigold using this uh you know they just had the Japan run baby they're feeling a little inspired i love women's uh factions because it also helps the amount of talent that get on tv like that's awesome the idea that at a w Mercedes is gonna have chameel and maybe add the renegade twins or whatever like that rules because we're getting a better talent rotation there all these trios the ones i just named wwe like the more women on my screen the better it's what i complain about all the time so i love that we're getting that and if you are topped out on the amount of match time that you want to dedicate to giving to women's matches whether that's network or your own creative decisions right i still have my qualms but it is good it's great to get get more women on television so some good stuff there but we move a lot we're moving on quick in this show because there wasn't a ton tons of talk about we did talk about the main event at the beginning of the show we're like a little bit coming down the the end of this having already talked about the main event but we get naya in the back with a new money in the brief rank bank briefcase say that ten times fast for tiffany stratton it reminds tiffany not to cash in on her and chelsey green doing what chelsey green does best she a piper never come over chelsey green makes one of the briefcase and complains that tiffany cost her the briefcase which i thought was good that they're continuing to build stories that came out of money in the bank and tiffany says green is not her color and wanders off and chelsey green gives the most face ever i know yeah yeah i adore that uh but this is good i feel like i assumed tiffany was cashing in tomorrow maybe not since we just got the briefcase if so i feel like that means naya is winning and tiffany maybe cash isn't on her at bad blood because they would in fact have bad blood if that was the case i sure think tomorrow's the better call like naya beats bailey up really bad and then tiffany tastes advantage but it does feel kind of sus that we just got the pink briefcase today and like are they gonna put them on clearance tomorrow that feels but what were your thoughts on this backstage that we got yeah it was cool i like i like the fact that you know we've been calling it about the pink briefcase and there it is you know i got immediately got the email from the w_e_ shop saying that there was a i can get one so um marketing is on point when it comes to the you know what they're doing there um i love naya uh you know her new her reign back in to ww has been has been a lot stronger and built way better than anything i think she's ever had uh besides punching Becky in the mouth and having her bleed there's nothing else outside of that i can recall and this now is meaningful uh i don't know i don't think i know you just mentioned the you know about summertime and whatnot i don't i don't think i don't know i feel like she is gonna cash in but i feel like if this could they're gonna extend the the feud between her and naya it doesn't have to necessarily happen right now or you know like it could get really good it could get really mouthy between them and i think that would be fun you know i love that line that she says you know we no longer could be the princess and the queen i love that like she was like you know what i'm saying i will punch your lights out so oh no you're muted we lost your cape i keep forgetting i keep muting myself because my headphones aren't working so oh i'm sorry no no no that's okay i just was muting myself so our wonderful viewers would not be getting a bunch of feedback but we're gonna break on alex fallowsky uh i'm gonna say if anything to do with logan paul as a person was on his rant list to take it off because i went on about it for so long and we can see it from behind the paywall tomorrow but as fallowsky you're bringing us the sourfower usually uh how are you fallowsky are you ready for some summer slam with moi tomorrow oh with you always um yeah no also uh i don't know i don't know it's part of the sourfower but jade kargill obviously stealing your hairdo and not allowed the the bangs are reserved for kate thank you very much but it's even like the same length and i mean what are we doing here come on jade that's gimmick infringement of the highest order here's the thing it's like this cake does cake it in there and and like gorilla press slam people no because she has decorum okay alex the thing is it's like it's one thing just steal my physique as jade already did like i have the abs i already and built like her in so many ways i basically dress like that all the time this is a little more casual arguably but for her to come after my hair when i when i've she's so blatantly ripped off my 47000 abs and second now you file the copyright for it obviously like nope nobody else can have that i filed a copyright for that people are filing copyrights for valvina saka i mean that's a whole it's a whole thing but yeah um who were better obviously me so it is i agree hmm the theme from from smackdown tonight for for me was a bunch of stuff that was bad but a necessary evil to get other good things yeah and and or hey this is cool but also that means that a bad thing has to happen like i love the idea of a three-way women's trios feud with all nine of those women with like if you put sonya and and zoe and shayna on raw with the non-spooky brish aisles muggles because they don't even Scottish anymore they put in Blair Blair davenport you can't call him Scottish and and then you have you throw Naomi in with with Blair and and jade that's an awesome three-way women's trios feud where the women's tag belts are kind of an afterthought you know what i mean like they're just they're gonna be there but it's not about them and so yeah that kind of sucks but also like hey i mean what if it were really bad for baron Corbin that his that his former tag partner is going to become intercontinental champion tomorrow and he's teaming with with Apollo Cruz they're doing really good work but if you have to pick one push Apollo Cruz and baron Corbin or Santos you have to pick Santos that's a very evil you got to pick one of the two and also like do i hate it that diy had a tag title reign of five minutes yeah johnny nardano lost in his hometown yeah do i love that jacob fatu is the most dangerous man in the history of wrestling yes i love that they put a gold belt on that dude within like again five minutes of him showing up yeah one of those things has to happen and like i just like it's death it sucks every everything sucks but also everything is pretty good but also everything sucks like it's the the the the analogy i used was like is you go to a steak house and the mashed potatoes are the best you've ever had but the steak is a brick like you know what i mean like the mashed potatoes are so good my compliments to the chef on the potatoes i want the chef jailed for this thing like don't both of those things can be happening at the same time it's almost like a monkey's paw uh civic foul saying just join here are some monies to support folks that recognize Logan Paul is a piece of trash it's probably the thing i talked about the most on the show so god bless for those of you who stuck around for it uh props to isla and ava for their tweets yesterday yeah i was i'm glad people spoke up about it and i'm glad there was no like hey it's bad PR can you take it down like it was a proportionate response which i think is good but second lieutenant kurtl photo saying i'm halfway done with the influencer cake cartoon alexis what tone do you want your cartoon to take on oh my goodness i think clearly like clavicle risk yeah no yeah make it sexy i need it to be sexy like like love of a romance novel sexy like thing yeah yes thing that yeah oh that's perfect and yes like think of him in love with like island on like that like yeah yes you know yeah that's a hard stretch you only say it i'm here every single week but i thank you so much for the support you're so wonderful to us uh why don't we real quick because this was such a a short review show we can we can quickly talk about rampage mostly because i love abxm and uh it had a promo and a a match how did that go Alex the promo was excellent um they they say um private party likes their shots we also like shots and i was like say back shots say back shots later than they said they said beauty shots which is fine that's a tribute to tyler breeze that's okay but um but no the the match was excellent honestly it boggles my mind the private party has had zero days as champion in either a wroh in five years that has to be rep rep you know rectified um but mxm one they use their ridiculous looks like it should kill a guy um uh double finisher yeah like that that that just the most elevated ddt in the history of the world um and uh it was it was a really really great match um mxm should be the next tag team champions and if they're not they should be the ones after that and the only reason that might be the case is if the next tag team champions are gyv like that's that's it if gyv shows up out of the blue in all in and with the tag belts that's allowed other than that no one else should be the next tag champs other than mxm they are it every i'll open down my timeline it's people going i honestly thought these guys were like a meme act but they're really good like that instead on our ohh it feels like we're popping at the things they do because we're not laughing with them right but we're laughing at the things that they do to make us laugh where i felt like we were laughing at them and wwe presentation so i feel like people realize how invaluable that aspect of it is like which is awesome and they can go but you'll also like get man sore jumping into mason's arms three times uh the rest of rampage will run it down for you real quick wheeler uta with brine davis and defeating the butcher with the cattle mutilation oh i love that that was cool that was very cool brine cage defeating medilo with the weapon x yeah and then that's backstage he talks some crap to cowl Fletcher who challenges him to a match at collision and don't don cowls is like what are you doing that's brine cage why are we getting involved in this and cowls like shut up don i got a thing to do and i'm like this is this is amazing if we're getting cowl Fletcher breaking away that could only mean mark davis is getting healthy let's reunite ue oh i missed them i missed them if they were ready to go by wembley i think it's still early but that would be amazing uh nyla rose defeats harley cameron by reversing a bronco buster into a beast bomb yeah this was this was really good harley harley cameron or uh as uh linda colts or harley camaroon um just really really impressed has really really impressed me um like again i thought she was a meme act but i was not familiar with her game um but like like nyla and her at a very very good match long like very very good man that makes me very happy to hear from both of them because that division every week i get to be happier about it and that it was not the case for like four and a half years so yeah uh we got brian keith with jereco and big bell defeating jax and drake glad brian keith got a singles match that's good yeah i i muted it shabatta interview says samoa joe and hook want revenge on the learned retreat sooner than later oh my god they're actually trapped in the jereco vortex yes the the the big news to come out of this backstage segment is that shabatta says through his google translator that he has family and instan salem so they will be in the audience to watch him beat up brian keith now that might yeah that that rules good for him uh a vid yet previewing a match that i'm not going to make you talk about because that's going to make you sad but and then your main event msm defeating private party with the centerfolds uh that sounds like a good little rampage i'm glad we got to talk about it on here too this is good this is a good segue into the end of the show no collision pro show tomorrow uh no no fightful three-hour pre-show either disappointingly but what are you gonna do you will have your summer slam show here on the main channel with phil Lindsay and reg you can also hang out with me and alex behind the wit paywall fightful select dot com best five dollars in the biz you're gonna have so many scoops you're gonna have the discord to hang out with while summer slam is going on and talk to people who are there for the right reasons then you can hang out with me and alex talking all about summer slam and shawn bringing you interviews and coverage uh we got you covered for summer slam shawn shawn sacrifices so much for you people he went to cleveland like on honestly there are people take cleveland rocks i don't know i i i would call those people's judgment into question because i mean honestly it's true it's true i did stay there one time and there was nothing there was a coffee shop he went to cleveland when it was expensive to go to cleveland soon like that's how much shawn loves you guys but guys please support all of our wonderful sponsors today you're gonna hear all about that swag golf drop that's coming up this weekend so excited to have them on board through wednesday to tell you all about their awesome swag that they have going on but uh before we get out of here cardosa where could the people find you you can find me uh easy by going to the instagrams as the kid likes to call it today and uh finding alex's cardosa and uh so for you amazing fight for faithful here i like to come and hang out the project in question is called um lucha libre behind the mask narrate it narrated by santo sescobar that she checked that out it's dropping i believe either august uh either august 22nd or 28th one of the two it's it's dropping towards the the end of august uh you know i'm gonna be here promoting it so it's called once again lucha libre behind the mask it's going to be both in english and spanish so for those of you who don't uh don't you know and he's narrating both so it's not like him just doing spanish and so no no he's doing both english and spanish so i can't wait for you guys to uh listen to that um i reached out i said hey i got something for you the powers that be uh thank you the powers that be at uh wwe got back to me and said yeah we'll let them do it because they want people and um that's true they do they do do that and and here we are um hopefully this opens a lot of more doors for him and especially for the land community i love that and i love that our chat is already excited about it stay tuned for more information about that i'm sure you'll see some fight for articles about that in the future as well but i'm going to do alex plaskies plugs for him because you can find him on social media at alex sauerkraps and you can also fight him off i feel select uh doing a bunch of shows with me and then on wednesday she's on the main channel with shawn but mostly with me and we're weird we have so much fun seriously we get sour about the creative but we have so so so much fun so come hang out with us you can find me at miss kate babe on social media you can find me all over the place on this channel tuesday's thursdays and friday's on the main channel here with your nxt rOH and smackdown post shows wednesday's at the mark order podcast talking all things all lead but this weekend i'm at speedy fest in vago to new york that's why i'm broadcasting from here three shows for excite wrestling that's three times i get to go to the pay window atop of my fightful 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