(upbeat music) - Hey everybody, it is Tuesday, July 16th. You're listening to the "Mone News Podcast." I'm Moshe Wannoonu. - And I'm Jill Wagner. This is the place where we bring you just the facts. - And we read all the news, read between the lines, and watch all the speeches at the Republican and next month, Democratic conventions, so you don't have to. - And that is a big ask, I might say. (laughing) Of all of the things we've done. - Several hours of fury evening every night this week, Jill. - You're welcome. - I'm there for everybody. (laughing) - Moshe, anything going on in the news today? - You know, there's the meme from "30 Rock" where Liz Lemon says, "Spin' a Tough Week," and Alec Baldwin's character does "Lemon It's Wednesday." And this week, there's been so much news that the meme really is, it's been quite a week, and the response is, it's only Monday. Well, I guess today, Tuesday. - All right, so with that, let's get to it. Trump's VP choice is official. Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio, will tell you about the author, marine and venture capitalist, and how his views have evolved from Trump critic to convert. The latest on the attempted assassination of the former president, and what we are learning about how long authorities were tracking the shooter on the roof. - Jill, even more questions this morning, based on what we're learning from local authorities. RFK Jr. has now officially been approved for secret service protection in light of the weekend developments. A major court victory for Trump as well on Monday, his classified records case has been completely thrown out. We'll tell you why. Several hundred thousand Texas residents are still without power in 95 degree temperatures a week after Hurricane Veral passed through. - Mosh no longer complaining on my end about being hot. - No, Jill, it's a privilege to have air conditioning. Our heart goes out to the folkton in Texas. - The price of a stamp going up again. - That's why you gotta buy the forever stamps. - And chaos at a huge soccer game in South Florida with questions about what it means for the US plans to hold the World Cup here in 2026. - Pictures are wild, Jill. - Plus Mosh has on the same history. - Little atomic history, a little weezer, and free willy if you remember that 90s film, Jill will tell you the real story behind it. - All right, former president Trump picked Ohio Senator J.D. Vance to be his running mate as the Republican National Convention was gaveled into order on Monday. Vance is a former Marine, former venture capitalist and best selling author. And he would be one of the youngest vice presidents in history. He is currently 39 years old. He turns 40 next month. He is just over one year of experience in elected office as a US senator. He was once a vehement critic of Donald Trump. That was during the 2016 election, even referring to him as America's Hitler, a cynical a-hole and reprehensible. Those are his words. Vance has since admitted he was wrong about Trump. And now says that Trump is one of the greatest presidents of all time. Vance himself born and raised in Middletown, Ohio. He joined the Marines and served in Iraq and later earned degrees from the Ohio State University. I add the most, very important for people who went there. - It's important for everyone who cheers to OHIO, yes. - And that includes my husband, Moshe. So I'm mentioning the Ohio State. - OH. - And he is a graduate as well of Yale Law School. Vance made a name for himself with his memoir, the 2016 bestseller, Hillbilly Elegy, which was published as Trump was first running for president, the book earned Vance reputation as someone who could help explain the Maverick New York businessman's appeal in middle America, especially among the working class, rural white voters who helped Trump win the presidency. Hillbilly Elegy also introduced Vance to the Trump family. Donald Trump Jr loved the book and knew Vance when he went to launch his political career. The two hit it off and have remained friends. And while we noted his criticism of Trump before he was elected in 2016, by the time Vance met Trump in 2021, he had reversed his opinion, citing Trump's accomplishments as president. No surprise, both men are now downplaying Vance's past scathing criticism. Trump endorsed Vance for Senate in 2022. Vance went on to win a crowded Republican primary for Ohio Senate and the general election. Once elected, Vance became a fierce Trump ally on Capitol Hill, continuing to defend Trump's policies and behavior. - Yeah, his embrace of foreign president Trump has really fueled his rapid rise here. He quickly emerged as a major fundraiser defender of Trump since arriving in the Senate last year. And what this choice really tells us, Jill, is this is a doubling down of populism, a generational doubling down here. The shift that we've seen the Republican party take from the Bush, Reagan, McCain, Romney era to the Trump era. Vance really personifies what's known here as the new right, a populist conservatism, MAGA conservatism that rejects a number of traditional Republican views about the US role in the world, about open connections when it comes to the economy. Vance is a big supporter of tariffs on trade, opposes US intervention and foreign conflicts, particularly support for Ukraine. And that apparently is one of the issues that helped him really win over Trump's support. And given the generational divide here, I mean, basically they're 40 years apart. What Trump is trying to do here is really hand the baton to Vance for this, you know, permanent change to the Republican party. On social issues, Vance opposes abortion, often says the government should find ways to encourage people to have children. Like other Republicans, though, he has changed how he discusses the issue, especially since his state, Ohio, among others, voted in favor of abortion access last year. In an interview a few months back over on CNN, he said Republicans must accept that people do not want blanket abortion bans. So similar to where Trump stands here, and that might be yet another reason why they saw eye to eye here, and Trump decided to go with Vance as his choice. Jill, we mentioned he was a critic of Trump's and has turned. What I found notable is his explanation here, as he was asked about it, as opposed to trying to spin or twist himself, he admitted, yeah, I was wrong. That's his genuine belief here. Here is Vance being questioned on Fox News last month, being asked about a number of those comments. - You've said I've never, I'm a never Trump guy. Never liked him, terrible candidate. Idiot, if you voted for him, might be America's Hitler, might be a cynical a-hole, cultural heroine, noxious and reprehensible. Those are things that the left is gonna come after you, and they're probably gonna be put in ads, should you be chosen as the VP pick. How do you deal with them now? - Yeah, well, I think the simple answer is you've gotta respect the American people enough to just level with them. Look, I was wrong about Donald Trump. I didn't think he was gonna be a good president, Brett. He was a great president, and it's one of the reasons why I'm working so hard to make sure he gets a second term. I think you should, when you're wrong about something, you should change your mind and be honest with people about that fact, and I actually think again, whether this is running as his running mate, or running and supporting him as United States Senator, Brett, I think it actually presents a real opportunity to talk to the American people, because a lot of people didn't think Trump was gonna be a good president, and a lot of people were happy to be proven wrong. - So there you have it from Vance there, the Biden campaign responded with this on Twitter. Here's the deal about JD Vance. He talks a big game about working people, but now he and Trump wanna raise taxes on middle-class families while pushing more tax cuts for the rich. Well, I don't intend to let them, and if you're with me pitching, it was a fundraising pitch by Joe Biden there. So we're gonna wait Vance's official introduction to the country, the way these conventions work is typically the second to last night, the VP introduces themselves, so that's gonna be Wednesday night, tomorrow night, and then Trump will address the country on Thursday night from the convention. They will then start to hit the campaign trail if passed as president here as part of a rollout. - Most what I found fascinating as well is the way in which this was all rolled out in terms of the vice presidential pick. So you had all of the guys who were on the short list, kind of like literally like waiting by the phones, and one by one throughout the day, we would get notices like, okay, Marco Rubio's team says he just got a call from Trump. - He's out, he's out. - It was a reality show, it was a reality show. - Yeah, it was a battle, it was crazy. - Every 20 minutes were like-- - It was crazy. - Or it was Rubio's out, and it went one by one until of course the Vance announcement. - Right, and then JD Vance himself, he didn't know until about 20 minutes before Trump announced it on Truth Social, so Trump really keeping everybody, including the pick himself and the edge of their seat. - Yeah, I mean, Jill, having covered a number of these elections, the VP choice is one of the few surprises you have, one of the few reveals that gets you a lot of attention. So it's always been a battle between journalists of like who can break the VP choice, who can break the VP choice, which explains why they only told him 20 minutes in advance, I'm going back to 08 here, I was a reporter covering a McCain campaign, and we were trying to figure out who he was going to choose by tracking planes, we knew he was going to do a rally in Ohio, so we were tracking private planes around the country, and then just a couple of hours before the rally, one of the reporters, I think Kelly O'Donnell at NBC and someone else broke that it was going to be the governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, we knew so little about Sarah Palin at that point, that was such a surprise pick, that we were calling her Sarah Palin, we didn't have YouTube at the time, we didn't know how to pronounce her name, and so anyway, I think that might explain why Trump literally waited 20 minutes before, because these things leak very easily, and I think he wanted to keep the element of surprise going. Joe, one notable thing we heard from Vance over the weekend, that got a lot of attention, and could preview the role he's going to play for Trump here, was the tweet he put out after the assassination attempt on Saturday, he tweeted the following, "Today is not some isolated incident, "the central premise of the Biden campaign "is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist "who must be stopped at all costs, "that rhetoric led directly to President Trump's "attemptive assassination." Directly, point and finger there, at Biden, some thought, well, clearly here, Trump's going to use him as an attack dog, that's something that you often see presidents do on campaigns, is you let the VP say all the nasty things, so you can remain above the fray, you can remain presidential, so if that's any indication, you might see that split here, where Trump decides to play the statesman, and Vance plays the attack dog. Jill, along those lines, President Biden was out last night with his latest interview, this one with NBC News' Lester Holt, it aired in prime time on Monday night. Among the questions Biden got was, did this attempted assassination lead Joe Biden to reconsider any of his rhetoric, and any extreme statements that he's made about Donald Trump? Take a listen to a bit here of Lester Holt's question, and Biden's response. - But having you taken a step back and done a little soul searching, on things that you may have said, that could incite people who are not balanced? - Well, I don't think, look, how do you talk about the threat to democracy, which is real, when a president says things like he says, do you just not say anything, he's a man inside somebody? Look, I have not engaged in that rhetoric. Now, my opponent is engaged in that rhetoric. He talks about, to be a bloodbath if he loses, talking about how he's gonna forgive all those, actually, I guess to spend the sentences of all those who were arrested and sentenced to go to jail, because of what happened in the Capitol. - So, Jill, you hear there that he doesn't want to blame himself in any way, shape, or form. First of all, we don't know the motive of the shooter. Number one, and he wants to say that, honestly, I'm just trying to describe who Donald Trump is, and Democrats, and Biden don't feel it's a fair comparison right now, to compare anything that they've said about Donald Trump and his goals, with some of the things Donald Trump has been saying on the campaign trail. - Right, short answer, no. He does not feel anything that he would change any of the language that he has been using. Now, let's get to the latest on the assassination attempt of Donald Trump, a senior law enforcement official telling NBC News on Monday that the FBI had gained access to Thomas Matthew Crooks' phone, and that a preliminary analysis did not help establish a motive for the attack. His parents have spoken to law enforcement, but they also seem to have very little insight, telling authorities that he didn't appear to have any strong political leanings and had few, if any, friends. That comes as we're learning from the NBC station in Pittsburgh, WPXI, that the shooter, Thomas Crooks, was actually spotted by law enforcement on a roof nearly 30 minutes before the shots were fired. The station reports that local police noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5.45 p.m. They called it in and took a picture of the person. That person was Thomas Crooks. It is not clear if he had a gun with him at that point. A law enforcement officer had also seen Crooks on the ground and apparently called him in as a suspicious person with a picture prior to 5.45. Crooks then moved to the roof 26 minutes after being spotted on the roof and the information called in was when he fired at Trump. - Yeah, pretty remarkable here, Jill, what was going on inside the perimeter. More and more videos keep coming out about people spotting him on the roof. Now we know that law enforcement saw him on the ground, then saw him on the roof. Jill, it comes as there's apparently some dispute miscommunication over who was handling security outside the perimeter here. The Secret Service says that was up to local police. The local police say, "Nope, that was up to Secret Service." And so it goes to the thing we often tell you here on this podcast, especially as people who bring up conspiracy theories don't doubt incompetence as the first reason for many things happening in this world. It appears here miscommunication and incompetence or an oversight here may have played a role. We told you about the local police officer, including the one yesterday who apparently climbed the roof on Saturday, spotted Crooks. Crooks aimed at gun at him and he dropped back down. Well, now we're hearing from a Pennsylvania sheriff who's defending that officer who happened to be armed when he saw Crooks, claiming it was the right call to retreat after the gunman pointed a weapon at him. This is Butler County Sheriff, Michael Sloop. He confirmed on Monday that a local officer did make contact with Crooks. He was hoisted up on the roof by another officer, but then fled and jumped back down when the sniper pointed his AR style rifle back at the officer, the sheriff telling a local station. I would have done the same thing, absolutely. I mean, people think that officers are supermen, like you hold on the roof with one hand while you're hanging on for dear life and you pull your gun out, it doesn't work that way. The sheriff says the officer was well equipped with a firearm but just was not in a place to be able to shoot back at Sloop. It comes, Jill, as we learned on Monday, the Secret Service has postponed a meeting where they were supposed to be taking questions from Congress about why there was this major failure here. They were looking to reschedule it when they have more answers. And Jill, back to the shooter here, you mentioned the difficulty they're having trying to figure out his motive. They did find, in addition to that gun with 30-run magazines, three 30-run magazines, two undetonated explosives in his vehicle, clearly here he had some sort of plan. What that plan was unclear and whether he told anyone is also unclear, he appears to have kept it to himself. And he also happens to be one of the few 20-year-olds out there, was surprisingly little online in terms of social media. They have found that he had an account for online coding classes. He was into chess, into video games, but otherwise they haven't discovered anything in the way of postings, photos, other ties to peer groups or political groups here. So they're still digging in. All right, we have a lot more to get to in today's podcast, but first I wanna talk about one of our big partners here at Mo News at Babel. So many of you have travel plans this year, and we all know that it makes the experience so much better when you can speak a bit of the language, also the locals really appreciate it. So if that's you right now, you can make 2024 the year, you finally check off learning the new language off the list, and you can do that with Babel, B-A-B-B-E-L. It's one of our favorite apps. 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All right, time for the speed read from the Associated Press, sticking with politics, a major legal win for Donald Trump Monday and what was his most serious criminal case, a federal district judge dismissing the indictment against the former president on charges of mishandling classified documents, his second seismic legal victory in less than a month following a historic Supreme Court decision on immunity, US district judge Aileen Cannon's 93-page ruling was based not on the merits of the case, but instead that special counsel Jack Smith was improperly appointed. This is the case that accused Trump of illegally keeping dozens of classified documents after he left office and then obstructing the government's efforts to retrieve them. Cannon is a Trump appointee from when he was president. She got this case and has repeatedly ruled in his favor. Other courts have rejected arguments similar to one that Trump's team made in Florida about the legality of Smith's special counsel appointment. The Justice Department is highly likely to appeal the decision and the issue may eventually reach the Supreme Court. - Like many of these issues, but not for a while, Jill, especially not before the election. And of course, we've noted to everyone that if former president Trump regains office as the president he oversees his justice department and he can kill these two cases against himself. So this might ensure that this case never sees the light of day here. Trump attorneys have long considered the classified documents case to be the strongest of the four cases against him. That's the Trump defense team. They knew that these were some serious things. There were implications about how he personally obstructed justice here as federal authorities tried to get those classified documents. And so they've been concerning to the Trump advisors here. So this is a huge victory for him. He was facing 40 counts of illegally retaining classified defense information as well as obstructing government efforts to retrieve the material. Her opinion delves into the legal minutiae of special counsel regulations. It doesn't address the crimes Trump has accused of here, but effectively says there shouldn't be a special counsel. She doesn't think the role is legitimate. She says that the justice department has inconsistently appointed special counsels throughout the years, the idea of a special counsel or independent prosecutor that an attorney general can appoint goes back to 1999. And the idea here that a special counsel shouldn't exist is actually something that Clarence Thomas recently wrote about the Supreme Court justice in his recurring opinion. He was solo in that opinion, but he said, hey, lower courts, look into the special counsel. I don't even think that that's legitimate. Well, Eileen Council said, sure, I will. And she looked into it and has now said, nope. So how higher courts rule on this is a question that appeals court already during this case has rejected several of Cannon's rulings in favor of Trump sending them back down. They might actually seek a new judge here, Jack Smith might based on this ruling. We'll see how that goes. But even if her ruling here is overruled, this again, very likely means this case will not to see the light of day before the election. On social media, Trump celebrated this saying, this should just be the first step to throw out all the cases against him. He accused Democrats of conspiring to bring the cases against him. - Moshe, I was actually surprised, given this news and how positive it was for Trump, that he decided to still announce his vice presidential pick today because he is very savvy with the media. I figured he would at least want this to have its own kind of 24-hour news cycle and then maybe push back the VP pick to Tuesday. But no, not the case. - Either way, it's been a couple incredible weeks for Donald Trump's going back to the Biden debate on June 27th. He's had a really remarkable as a candidate, as a human being, surviving an assassination attempt. And then given his various legal issues, the legal wins he's had, it's been quite a couple of weeks for him. - From Bloomberg News, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that he would authorize Secret Service Protection for independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This follows the assassination attempt on former President Trump. Mayorkas telling reporters at the White House, the president has directed me to work with the Secret Service to provide protection to Robert Kennedy Jr. Calls to Protect Kennedy, a long-shot candidate who did not qualify for last month's presidential debate, have grown since the shooting. Trump himself posted on his social media platform that his third-party rival should receive a security detail, quote, immediately. He said, quote, given the history of the Kennedy family, this is the obvious right thing to do. - Yeah, Kennedy has been asking for Secret Service protection for more than a year now. He's been informed that he's been rejected until now. The agency is authorized to protect, quote, unquote, major presidential candidates within 120 days of the general election. That's a mark that was crossed last week. He polls right now between eight and 12%, but not enough at 15% to be able to qualify for the debates. He's still trying to get on the ballot in the majority of states right now. Jill, it comes as we got an interesting headline from Politico yesterday. Apparently, Kennedy is also in Milwaukee where the Republican convention is being held and had a meeting yesterday morning with Donald Trump, where they discussed the possibility of him endorsing Trump according to Trump's team. Apparently, Trump asked for an endorsement. Kennedy denies that he has any plans to drop out of the race. His spokesperson says, yes, Mr. Kennedy met with President Trump to discuss national unity. He helps to meet with leaders of the Democratic Party as well, but no, he is not dropping out of the race. He is the only pro-environment, pro-choice, anti-war candidate who beats Trump in a head-to-head. Interesting leak nonetheless that the two met, and that was what Trump was pushing for. From CNN, a week after Hurricane Beryl knocked out power for millions of residents in Houston and areas along the Texas Gulf Coast, nearly 300,000 are still waiting for their power to be restored. That means many have endured several days of 90 degree plus weather without air conditioning. As of Monday morning, more than 293,000 customers were without power across Texas. The majority are center point customers. Center point energy is the main electricity supplier in the greater Houston area. The company says it has reconnected almost 2 million people, about 90% of those affected. Since Beryl brought down scores of power lines in brought trees crashing into homes. - The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has demanded an investigation into the company's response, explain how it's improving hurricane preparation, especially as we expect many more this summer and fall. Failure to do so, the governor says, could result in an executive order geared to keep the power on. So effectively threatening the power company to get its act in order here. Center point says its crews are working around the clock, two restore connections, and they had a number of areas with some significant structural damage. - From CNN, the price of a postage stamp has now jumped for the second time this year, increasing by five cents to 73 cents for first-class postage. While this may seem inconsequential, it is a big deal to businesses that spend millions each year on bulk mailings, junk mail, and periodicals. These higher prices are making businesses cut back, which hurts the budget of the US Postal Service, and potentially its ability to continue its crucial services. - As recently as 2002, the price of a stamp was 34 cents. So basically doubled over the course of the past 20 years. The Postal Service delivered more than 11 billion letters last year down 75% from 20 years ago. So they're delivering less. They're trying to make ends meet. Jill, there's been a lot to talk about the Postal Service needing restructuring. They're trying to eliminate $160 billion in predicted losses and make the Postal Service efficient in this time where more and more of us are emailing instead of sending letters. - From the Miami Herald, the COPA America final between Argentina and Colombia this weekend was meant to be Miami's dress rehearsal for the World Cup soccer tournament. It's set to be held in the US in 2026. However, hours before kickoff, it collapsed into chaos. Gatecrashers stormed Hard Rock Stadium in waves at multiple points on Sunday night, climbing over steel fences, shimming into breached ventilation docks, and rushing stadium access doors. Then police and security locked the venue down, leaving throngs of fans with tickets. Some who paid thousands of dollars for seats in a crush outside as the minutes before kickoff counted down. On Sunday night, match organizers delayed kickoff for one hour and 15 minutes as stadium staff reinforced with riot police, began to let fans in, but they slammed barriers shut again and again as fans dressed in Colombia and Argentinian jerseys rushed the gates. - Yeah, police chased down and detained people on entry ramps, escorting others without tickets. The Miami-Dade County mayor, Daniela Cava, said her office will conduct an immediate review of what happened and promises they will be prepared for the World Cup in two years. Joe, you had a lot of people who attended games who have attended games across Latin America, saying they've never seen this sort of thing and they expected more from attending a game here in the US. It really is an ugly culmination of what has been a tournament, a Copa America tournament that is at low attendance, a disappointing performance by the host country. Here's truly the United States. And fights in the stands, the sacra tournament, usually it's place in South America, but it was meant to be a showcase in the US for the World Cup, which will be held, as you mentioned, two years from now in the US, Mexico, and Canada. Hard Rock will host several of the matches. As far as the game is concerned, Argentina went on to beat Colombia in overtime outside a police officer when asked what was going on told a reporter, "It's chaos, pure chaos." - Those are the days you're happy to watch from home. - When the police are telling you it's chaos. It's not good, it's not good, Jill. (upbeat music) - All right, let's end here with On This Day in History, as it would typically do, starting in 1935. On this day, the world's first parking meter, known as Park O meter number one, is installed in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. They cost a nickel an hour, they replaced a 20 foot intervals. The idea was to encourage a quicker turnover of cars that would be good for shops in that area of Oklahoma City. Well, the idea took off, and now parking meters have gone global, as we know, but it all started in Oklahoma. - Thanks for nothing, Park O meter number one. - Park O meter number one. All right, fast forward to 1945. On this day, 529 AM July 16th, 1945, the Manhattan Project yields its first results. As the first atom bomb is successfully tested in New Mexico, the following month, the US would drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, bringing about the end of World War II. If you haven't seen Oppenheimer, it provides a really interesting, compelling glimpse into how this all went down. On this day in 1969, Apollo 11 blasted off from Cape Kennedy on the first manned mission to the surface of the moon, Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, and Buzz Aldrin would reach the moon just a couple days later. On this day in 1993, Free Willy premiered in theaters. The real story though, Jill, behind the 1993 heartwarming classic of a little boy and his whale, doesn't quite have such a happy ending in real life. So it is based on the real story of Keiko the killer whale. Keiko was captured from the wild near Iceland back in 1979, lived in a number of aquatic parks. In 1996, he was moved to Aquarium in Oregon with the hope of releasing him back in the wild, like his film character. He actually stars as the whale. The whale in the film is Keiko, obviously in the film known as Willy. Well, in December 2003, it was reported that Keiko, after a year in the wild, died. He was still relying on food from his handlers. They were trying to help him transition to freedom and it didn't quite take, Jill. - One of your more depressing on this day. - I think the lesson there is let's let the whales live free. Keep them free. (laughing) - All right, we end here slightly more uplifting song, Jill on this day in 2001. (upbeat music) Weezer on this day 23 years ago released Island in the Sun. - I am a very, I wouldn't say closeted Weezer fan because no one never has asked me about it. I'm admitting it. - Is it embarrassing to like Weezer? I don't feel like it's embarrassing to like Weezer. - No, but I happen to love Weezer, even though I don't think I've ever mentioned it, going on 500 podcasts together, where we talk about music all the time. - Listen, we learn new things every day. We're about to hit 5 million downloads this week of the Mo News podcast. So thanks to all of you for helping us reach that number, Jill, we're on the road to 10 million. - To 10 million and beyond. All right, thank you guys for listening to the podcast. If you like what you hear, please share this with your friends. It will help us grow, follow us and subscribe to don't miss an episode. And write us a review in the app store. We read them and we really, really appreciate them. - We love the reviews, leave a review. It helps us. It helps you. Praise is important. Gratitude, Jill. We're all about gratitude this week. - We are, Moshe. (laughing) - It's gratitude week here on the podcast. All right, everyone, we'll see you back here tomorrow. - Thanks for listening to the Mo News podcast. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
