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— Mosheh Oinounou (@mosheh) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022. Jill Wagner (@jillrwagner) is an Emmy and Murrow award- winning journalist. She's currently the Managing Editor of the Mo News newsletter and previously worked as a reporter for CBS News, Cheddar News, and News 12. She also co-founded the Need2Know newsletter, and has made it a goal to drop a Seinfeld reference into every Mo News podcast. Follow Mo News on all platforms:

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Headlines:

– Welcome to Mo News (00:00)

– Debate Takeaways: Democrats Panic Over Biden’s Weak Performance

– Supreme Court Decision Day: Rejects Purdue Pharma Deal to Shield Sackler Family; Allows Emergency Abortions In Idaho For Now; Blocks EPA’s Air-Quality Initiative

– Paris Hilton Shares Story of Alleged Abuse While Testifying Before Congress

– Several States Show Promising Recovery From Youth Mental Health Crisis

– What We’re Watching, Reading, Eating



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Mosheh Oinounou (@mosheh) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022.

Jill Wagner (@jillrwagner) is an Emmy and Murrow award- winning journalist. She's currently the Managing Editor of the Mo News newsletter and previously worked as a reporter for CBS News, Cheddar News, and News 12. She also co-founded the Need2Know newsletter, and has made it a goal to drop a Seinfeld reference into every Mo News podcast.

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Hey, everybody, we've made it. It's Friday June 28th, you're listening to the Mo News podcast. I'm Mosh. What do you do? And I'm Jill Wagner. This is the place where we bring you just the facts. And we read all the news, watch all the debates and read between the lines so you don't have to. Jill, I have to say, having watched dozens of presidential debates in my life, I have never seen one like that in terms of the, let's be honest, the president's delivery last night. And the potential impact here, we were talking about whether this debate would matter, Jill, this debate might not just matter for who you vote for in November, but who's on the ballot in November? Yeah, Mosh. I think that the word panic was used by a lot of commentators who have been in touch with Democratic strategists with people very high up in the Democratic Party based on President Biden's performance in the debate. And it's not like Donald Trump had this home run debate. It was just that President Biden really didn't seem up to the task. It wasn't that Trump won, the more that Biden lost. There's a lot to discuss here in today's pod when it comes to that debate and a lot of news, I know, Jill. Okay. To the headlines, as we were just mentioning a potentially game changing presidential debate, President Biden and former President Trump facing off for 90 minutes last night. The Biden campaign wanting to restore confidence that he is up to the job for four more years, but a very weak performance not only did not reassure them, it now has even senior Democrats saying that President Biden should think about dropping out. And Jill, the headline, the Washington Post this morning, Biden struggles, the headline in the New York Times, Biden struggles. Mosh, it was also a huge day at the Supreme Court on Thursday, which rejected the Purdue pharma deal, what that means for the Sackler family and the victims going forward. As expected and accidentally revealed earlier this week, the court also allowing emergency abortions in Idaho for now and to the environment, the court blocks the EPA's downwind air quality initiative. We'll explain what that means and the impact plus Paris Hilton on Capitol Hill. She shared a story of alleged abuse while in youth residential treatment facilities will have part of her statements. And it is usually doom and gloom when it comes to youth mental health. But finally, some signs of improvement, not a ton of improvement, but at least it looks like in some areas, we're moving in the right direction. And it is Friday, cheers to the freaking weekend time for we are watching, reading and eating. >> And for many people after that debate, what they're drinking either away their woes, Jill or celebratory. >> All right, let's get to it. That first debate of the presidential election has come and gone and Mosh, I think it is safe to say, at least according to the reaction over on the Monuse feed, voters are feeling underwhelmed and disappointed by both President Biden and former President Trump, CNN, hosting the debate, the earliest ever in a presidential race, taking place before the Republican and Democratic conventions in July and August, no audience. And the mic muting definitely did help to keep things a bit more policy focused. >> And Jill allowed us to really scrutinize the delivery without interruptions. >> Right, so Biden at times delivering rambling answers, his team said that he is fighting a cold, which gave him a raspy voice and caused him to clear his throat more often. But many of his answers were simply not coherent, which is reportedly causing some panic right now in the Democratic Party. >> Yeah, among donors, among senior officials, and Jill, I mean, at one point last night, Biden saying we finally beat Medicare, not making any sense at times losing his train of thought. >> Donald Trump definitely had more pep in his step, but he countered Biden with a lot of statements that were just simply not true. And he also would not commit to accepting the results of this election. But Mosh, like with other debates, it isn't so much what the candidate said, but how they said it and what they looked like saying it. And in this case, you've got, as we're mentioning, a lot of prominent Democrats and liberals saying that the party might want to really think about finding a new candidate, CNN's John King saying that his phone was blowing up during the debate from Democrats, worried about Joe Biden. He said in all of his years covering debates, he'd never seen anything like it. And here is Van Jones, who has worked for President Obama and support Joe Biden saying that the debate was painful. >> I just want to speak for my heart, I love that guy, that's a good man. He loves his country, he's doing the best that he can, but he had a test to meet tonight to restore confidence of the country and of the base, and he failed to do that. And I think there's a lot of people who are going to want to see him consider taking a different course now. We're still far from our convention. Jill, we could go on and on, dozens and dozens of commentators. I made a point, we had an Instagram live last night where I was doing a live commentary during the debate. And afterwards, tuned into CNN, tuned into MSNBC, tuned into Fox News. What was remarkable is typically, I've covered dozens of debates. You tell the media after the debate that you're said one, Democrats, including those who worked for Joe Biden, are very low to Joe Biden, hate Donald Trump, could not argue that Biden won that debate. The quotes were, we have a problem, Biden is toast. There is a major issue happening, you can see the tweets happening in real time, New York Times Nick Kristoff, who's a columnist, a liberal, who supports Biden tweets during the debate. I wish Biden would reflect on this debate performance and announce his decision to withdraw from the race. Frank Luns, who's a pollster, had a focus group going on, he asked group of undecided voters, all of those who voted for Biden in 2020 during the focus group, he asked them, is this performance convincing you to vote for Biden again? Zero people raise their hands. They all said, by the loss of the debate, it wasn't that Trump won the debate with anything that he said. And many times deflecting the questions, moving on to his own issues at times, you know, saying inaccurate things. But Biden, Joe, there were several instances where Biden didn't even use all his time on really important questions, like the future of Social Security, like what have you done for black voters? And he's losing black voters. At one point during one of those questions, he finished his response. The moderator goes, you have 82 seconds left, which is like the majority of your response time. At another time, they said, you have 49 seconds left. So, everything else you want to say, do you want to use your time, the rest of your time to answer that question? Jill, at one point, he was asked about his age, and he said, you know, I was criticized for being too young when I joined the Senate, which was in 1972, and then moved on to other topics. And he was not addressing the most important issue, especially like that debate. What was interesting with Trump, is Trump could have gone in for a kill, you know, Trump hates him and says nasty things about him, and Trump decided to just stand there. Trump saw what was happening with Joe Biden, and they basically let him dig his own political grave, so to speak. You could tell that Biden had the ideas he wanted to get out, but just couldn't deliver them on major issues. And again, it's not that Trump had better responses necessarily that was winning over attendance, but it was Biden's complete lackluster ability. And you mentioned, Jill, this is the earliest debate in modern history. Do you know who asked for this debate? Joe Biden, the White House, asked Donald Trump's campaign. They said, you know what, we're willing to do debate this early, knowing that they had to reassure voters that he has gas in the tank for four more years. Question people are now asking, is he have gas in the tank for six more months? And it also came, as we've been reporting, after he has been holed up at Camp David prepping for this debate, doing mock debates exclusively for a week, doing nothing else. So I was also watching, after the debate, you had the Democrats, as you pointed out on all three networks, very hard press to find anyone who said that Joe Biden won. But then you went to this kind of rally where Jill Biden, the first lady was at with Joe Biden, and she's chanting four more years, four more years. So the question is, is he going to get the memo at this point? And this is my question to you, Moshe. I mean, it's almost ridiculous to use the word unprecedented anymore, given just the news and we've been saying it so much. But what can actually happen now? We are pretty late into the election season, obviously we haven't had the convention yet. What could potentially happen? Who could potentially take over if there really is this push to get him out? All right. So keep in mind, as we record this, Jill, we're about an hour removed, less than an hour, as we tape this from the debate itself. As I'm watching, by the way, what looks like a beaming Gavin Newsom, I think that is behind you. And I'll turn to MSNBC because we're waiting for Kamala Harris to speak late at night, which will include in this podcast, if she says something that we don't think is reassuring of the president. That said, Gavin Newsom beaming, but Gavin Newsom, not going in for the kill either, saying, I got to stand by this guy. It's not about one performance. The spin you're hearing from Democrats is this is not about one performance, but to get to your question, what would need to happen? First, Jill and Joe Biden need to decide they're done. It does not appear in the first hour after the debate that they've decided that they're done. Joe Biden is not somebody at this stage of the game, which has achieved his life's mission to step down. Who will be telling him to do that behind the scenes? Because we're certainly seeing people publicly and I'll say that. How do they put out this fire? Can this fire be put out? We're about less than 60 days less than the Democratic Convention. You know, until about the 1970s, Jill, that's where people selected the nominee. Primaries are a new phenomenon since the 1970s, coming out of that 68 Democratic Convention that was a huge fight and then led to Nixon winning. The Democrats create the primary system, Republicans adopted the primary system, and they went state by state. The delegates have all voted for Joe Biden for the most part at this point. He has the nomination. What would need to happen is the following. Jill Biden and Joe Biden need to decide what, for the sake of the country, I should not be president. I would imagine in the coming weeks, they're going to make an attempt to put out this fire if they realize they cannot put out this fire. And Joe Biden says that the future of this country is at stake if Trump wins, that it's not about needs about the country, then at some point he may say, "You know what? I'll hand it to the convention," which means you go to Chicago in August and it's an open convention. He releases his delegates and Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer, name your Democrat, Cory Booker, I'll show up at the convention vying for delegates, convincing them that they are the person to beat Donald Trump. That's something we have not seen in the last 50 years and it would be remarkable, coincidentally. The last time we had a major open convention, Chicago, where they're having a convention this August, Chicago, fascinating. What could happen there? You see a fight with the Democrats already between progressives and moderates. How does that play out? Joe, a lot needs to happen before then, not saying it will happen, but those are the discussions in the first hour after the presidential debate and I have never seen anything like it. We talked about the poor performances of sitting presidents in their first debate in re-election. Whether it was Bush '04, Obama 2012, no one was talking about them giving up. They were just saying fix it for the next debate. The question, there's a second debate schedule for September 10th. Is that debate happening? If that debate happens, who's in the debate? These are actual questions we are asking as people who've covered politics for a very long time and ultimately, even if people didn't watch the debate tonight, they're going to see the clips, they're going to hear the conversation. I don't know that the White House is capable of putting this genie back in the bottle. If their closest allies or their best spin was, that really sucked, but Trump sucks more. Moshe, I was one of the thousands of people, I should say, who was watching the debate along with you last night. You did a great job, I thought, of just interjecting a little bit to give some context and fact-checking while the debate was going on. What was really interesting to me was also seeing the comments from people who are in the Monuse community who follow the news and the overwhelming theme seem to be, from everybody, don't we deserve better than this than these two candidates and both of them. We've been talking about this for a while that polls have showed that there are these double haters or just people who are unhappy with both options, with Trump and with Biden. I think that that really showed in the debate last night. On that note, I think we'd be remiss if we didn't at least get to some of the policy discussion. The debate opened on the inflation and the economy. Trump saying that Biden caused the inflation and that he had left him with this perfect economic situation. Biden said there was no inflation because the economy was basically dead when he took office, there was deflation at that point. If you think back to where we were, we were really in the beginning of the pandemic. The moderator, Jake Tapper, also pressing Trump on what he would say to Americans who believe that he violated his oath on January 6th of 2021 and are worried that he would do it again. Trump were not really answering that. He wound up somehow pivoting in blaming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi saying that she turned down help from the Capitol police. Yeah, that actually never happened. Jill, I was trying my best last night to fact check both of these or take out of context statements. Again, to your earlier point, it's not that either of them really talked about substantive policy in a way that makes you really understand what they're planning for the next four years. For Trump, he pivoted to his normal talking voice. For Biden, he had trouble just getting his statements out, explaining his policy. And so there were a number of times during the debate where the two of them said various things in particular Trump, and we had to go back to the record there. Also the issue of abortion, President Biden blaming Trump for overturning Roe v. Wade, which has now led to a slew of state abortion restrictions. Biden warned that a second Trump term could lead to a nationwide abortion restriction. Trump said that he believes in abortion ban exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. And then he tried to paint Democrats as radical on abortion, saying that some states are passing legislation where you could execute a baby after birth, which is not true. Yes, there's there's no Democratic strategy to allow people to murder their children after they're born, which is something Trump said last night, Jill, they went through a whole slew of topics last night at times answering the moderator's questions at times, not even bothering and just getting to fights at one point, Jill, they had a fight over who was a better golfer. Let's not forget that, like, I think we're going to put that for Instagram. That was at like minute 85. Yeah, I mean, I feel like they both had lost. If you made it to 10 25 p.m. last night and sat through that debate, they attend 25 got into fight. Trump touted his age, his youth, and his golf abilities, and Biden's like, I'll challenge you to a driving contest, but you have to carry your own clubs. What the anyway? So that was happening. Jill, that was just after a foreign policy section where we have two major wars happening right now. Biden explained we got to keep supporting Ukraine, essentially. I think that's what he was saying, Trump is saying that he would end the war before he even is inaugurated when he's present elect. This fall, the assumption there is he's going to tell Selinsky, just give up your territory. Let's make peace with Putin, which one of the reasons people believe Putin probably wants Trump to be elected, because he'll get him a better deal in Ukraine. As far as Israel is concerned, Trump punted both times. He was like not interested in talking about the topic. Clearly he knows that there's a weak spot for Biden. He doesn't want to reinforce being as, if not more, pro-Israel than Joe Biden, but knows that Biden has a problem on the left and wants them to even think there's an inkling, there's an opportunity that he might be closer to the Palestinians than Biden is. So he just ignored the subject altogether, Biden's saying he supports Israel and gives them all most of the weapons they need, except for the 2,000 pound bombs at some point they got a tornado. That's so interesting, Jill, we wanted to make a point saying that they were asked about substantive issues. I thought Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, the moderators from CNN, did a good job on asking some of the most important issues, including child care costs, which have exploded in this country. Neither of them had a real good answer about it and what they're doing about it. Social security is going to be one of the biggest issues we face in this country. We're running out of money to pay for Social Security. Something has to change and the system that was created under FDR. Neither of them really had a plan. Biden laid out that he would raise taxes on the rich. Trump didn't really have much to say about that, but there are such important issues happening here and abroad. It just felt last night that you didn't get great answers on them, which is why I think some people came away with a depressed feeling about the election. I think Trump supporters are gung-ho, I think Biden supporters, some are freaking out, some are just very sad from what we've heard, especially when it comes to the delivery. The question I think ultimately is, regardless of these issues, is how does Biden convince the people on his side that we have not, you know, Democrats are known to freak out about their candidate. We've never seen them freak out like this. How does he convince that and how do voters react? The majority of whom didn't watch last night's debate, but we'll air this podcast, we'll see clips on social media, we'll see the headlines, I'm Jill, I'm refreshing as we speak here. The headline in USA Today, above the fold, Democratic Panic, the headline in Politico right now, Biden is toast, Democratic strategist. Those are the headlines, Biden needed to make this debate about Donald Trump and how he should not be from a Democrat perspective, the next president, that he's a danger to the world, and instead the debate is now about whether Joe Biden is coherent enough to be able to be president for four more years. And that's where we're at in the hours after this first presidential debate. So this episode is brought to you by WeWork. We've told you for a while now that we made our home for Monu's headquarters at WeWork, the co-working space. Ours is located in Brooklyn. They have locations all across the country and around the world. We love working here because not only is it a great space to get worked on, but you never know who you'll meet in the hallways here or at the next WeWork event. You could meet founders, industry leaders, or your next business partner, customer, or investor. The hot topic in the halls these days is all things artificial intelligence, AI. 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They've had some of these ready to go since like March, but like they wait till the end of June and then over two weeks they want all the attention on them between 10 a.m. and 11 30 a.m. certain mornings and so they've been trickling them out. This is a tradition here at the Supreme Court. They have a few more to go so they might, I mean it would be a cluster today if they drop all the rest today so people are anticipating that this could stretch into next week. All right. Well, here is what happened on Thursday. The Supreme Court threw out the billion dollar opioid settlement for Purdue Pharma that would have shielded the Sackler family, which owns the company from personal liability. The justices in a five to four vote blocked an agreement hammered out with state and local governments and victims. The Sacklers would have contributed up to six billion dollars and given up ownership of the company, but they would have retained billions more. The agreement provided that the company would emerge from bankruptcy as a different entity with its profits used for treatment and prevention and it also protected the Sacklers from future lawsuits. The High Court had put the settlement on hold last summer in response to objections from the Biden administration, which argued that negotiations could resume and perhaps lead to a better deal if the court were to stop the current agreement. Justice Neil Gorsuch writing for the majority asserted that bankruptcy code does not authorize a legal shield for the family as part of a reorganization plan. Yes, Gorsuch was joined by Clarence Thomas, Sam Alito, Amy Coney Barrett and notably liberal justice, Katanchi Brown Jackson, joining that five court majority. Jill, there's been a lot of interesting combos in some of these cases that don't normally meet the six to three conservative to liberal division. In that majority opinion, Gorsuch writing, someday Congress may choose to add to the bankruptcy code special rules for opioid related bankruptcies as it has for asbestos related cases, or it may choose not to do so. Either way, if a policy decision like that is to be made, it is for Congress to make, are you sensing a theme here? This is the Supreme Court saying, hey, Congress, you need to make new laws. The existing law cannot be stretched this way. And this is a theme we've seen in multiple cases here. At the same time, you had a dissent written by Justice Brett Kavanaugh, conservative, joined by the Chief Justice, John Roberts, and then two of the liberals, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Again, interesting combo here. They dissent Kavanaugh writes, today's decision is wrong on the law and devastating for more than 100,000 opioid victims and their families. Back to the majority opinion, Gorsuch read that and they distribute their opinions in advance before they release them. So they have a chance to reply to each other in their opinions. Gorsuch writing in his majority opinion, having read the dissent, despite the misimpression left by today's dissent, our only proper task is to interpret and apply the law as we find it, and nothing in present law authorizes the Sackler discharge. So Jill, interesting back and forth here as for what this means for the victims, unclear how this proceeds, what a new deal looks like, does Congress pass a new law, but ultimately here, first things first, for the Sackler family, this means the victims, the families of the victims here can go after them. Yeah, so huge implications there and sticking with the Supreme Court from the Associated Press in another case, the Supreme Court cleared the way for Idaho hospitals to provide emergency abortions for now. It is basically a procedural ruling that left key questions unanswered and could mean that this issue actually ends up before the court at another date, potentially soon. The ruling came a day after we told you an opinion was briefly posted on the court's website accidentally and quickly taken down, but not before it was obtained by Bloomberg News. Now, the final opinion appears to be in line with what was accidentally posted 16 hours prior. The six to three vote reverses an earlier court order that had allowed an Idaho abortion ban scones to affect even in medical emergencies. Yeah, so effectively, this is a fight between federal law and state law, the state abortion ban and the federal law that requires them to allow for emergency abortions in hospitals, despite the state law. So they continue for now. The side steps and overall ruling, there's some of the justices have been frustrated by some of these procedural rulings, Kavanaugh in a case earlier this week saying, guys, we have to make the hard decisions. We can't just keep kicking this stuff to lower courts. That said, that's what they did in this case, so it goes to a lower court, might come before the Supreme's again. And that's not all, Moshe, we've got another ruling that we want to tell you about from the Washington Post, the Supreme Court dealt a blow to the Environmental Protection Agency or the EPA's regulation of air quality on Thursday. And this puts a major initiative on hold that sought to improve public health by reducing smog forming pollution from power plants and factories that blows across state lines to the states of Ohio, Indiana and West Virginia and other groups, they were asking for a hold on this plan. They had argued that it was unworkable and illegal and would require that industries spend billions for upgrades to cut pollution. The EPA, though, said that those concerns were unfounded, they say the plan is critical for the health of residents in downwind states, particularly the young and elderly who are susceptible to asthma and phezema and other lung diseases that are exacerbated by ground level ozone, which is the main component of smog. This decision is the third time in as many years that the court's conservative majority has sharply challenged the EPA's power to regulate pollution back in 2022 and 2023. The court targeted the agency's ability to limit greenhouse gases and protect wetlands from runoff. Yeah, this is Supreme Court saying, again, at least this conservative majority saying, guys, over in Congress, they can make laws over this. You agencies, the EPA, the SEC, the ATF, pick your favorite government agency acronym, you can't stretch the law to do things that Congress hasn't specifically allowed you to do. So this is a case where, again, they're curbing what the EPA can do here. Really, Jill, this has to do with a Biden administration plan called the Good Neighbor Plan, which would have impacted more than 20 states downwind. It's the states that are creating the pollution that sued because they didn't want to have to make the changes here. In terms of the split, a five-four split, so you had most of the conservatives in the majority here. But Amy Coney Barrett joins the three liberals in the dissent here. The way they made the decision here is notable. They actually took up the case while it was still playing out in the U.S. court of appeals. Usually, the Supreme Court waits for the lower courts, so that move angered liberal justices environmentalists who question why they're doing this in this way. And they believe this could embolden the industry to challenge other regulations that dis emboldens power companies, other polluters saying, "Hey, the Supreme Court's on our side. Let's try to challenge some other rules here." So we'll see what comes of that. But a jam-packed Thursday at the Supreme Court, we'll see what today has in store. From Forbes and Teen Vogue, Paris Hilton made her third appearance on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, following one in 2022 and one in 2023. She spoke before the House Ways and Means Committee, which is tasked with shaping fiscal legislation around taxes, tariffs, and social service programs. In her opening remarks, she spoke about her time in youth residential treatment facilities, describing some of her traumatic experiences at one of the four facilities that she spent time in, Paris Hilton is now 43 years old. Take a listen. When I was 16 years old, I was ripped from my bed in the middle of the night and transported across state lines to the first of four youth residential treatment facilities. These programs promised healing, growth, and support, but instead did not allow me to speak move freely or even look out a window for two years. I was forced by medications and sexually abused by the staff. I was violently restrained and dragged down hallways, stripped naked, and thrown into solitary confinement. She said her parents were completely deceived by the facilities about the treatment that she was getting and said that she's here to be the voice for the children whose voices can't be heard, making the argument that of her parents who have basically all of the means in the world, if they didn't know what was going on, could you imagine lower income families who don't have those resources? Yeah. And Jill, this was the thing in the '90s. I mean, I don't know if you remember watching like Maury Povich and Jerry Springer where the parents would send their kids off to military school or these types of facilities when they were misbehaving. We're discovering now what was going on then. You noted Paris is now in her 40s, she's talking about her time as a teen here. But sadly, the experience hasn't changed or hasn't improved in some of these places. There's a lack of federal oversight here, Paris has also been going state by state to try to get state legislatures to change the law in specific states. So she's urging more oversight, more laws to predict vulnerable young people. At the time, when she was a teen, she was struggling with ADHD, some other matters, and so her family decided to put her in this facility. She says to this day, she's still traumatized by that experience you might have caught the documentary with her in recent years, but she's taking the message to Capitol Hill. She's encouraging a couple of moves here, reauthorization of a title within the Social Security Act that provides for child welfare, also a bill called the Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act, which supports the best practices for youth residential facilities. That's been stalled in Congress for a while here. Jill, one other thing as she was testifying on this very serious issue, people made note of the fact there's a sort of fun exchange she had with Congresswoman Claudia Tenney, where she's talking about what Claudia Tenney is wearing, and then you can hear the voice switch. You can hear the Paris friendly voice versus the Paris, let's get back to business voice. Take a listen. But what specifically do you think we could do to add mental health and counseling support? How can we incorporate that in the bill along with trying to meet the goals that are already in this reauthorization? Thank you. I enjoyed our Zoom call, and I love your jacket, the sparkles are amazing. I had a little bling here for today. Yes, I wanted to find out who made it later. But I think the most important thing is they need access. You basically had Paris at lunch with her girlfriends and then Paris, the serious, okay, we've got a policy issue to discuss voice. Jill, a lot of love for Paris on our Instagram account. The clips we've posted of the testimony have been shared tens of thousands of times already. I guess everyone loves a comeback story, not that she ever had a terrible low, but certainly she has kind of bounced back and reinvented herself as an adult. Yeah, she'd face a lot of ridicule. I think if you look back on the way the media and others treated her, Lindsay Lohan, Brittany, Monica Lewinsky, various young prominent women, and again, all for a wide range of things, they were treated unfairly, you could say, in retrospect, and so, you know, more power to Paris Hilton going before Congress and fighting on this issue. Okay, from Axios, youth mental health has begun to improve after major pandemic dips. This is according to some new data. The COVID-19 pandemic laid bare student struggles as well as a fractured system to help them navigate recovery. Some of the recovery, though, trails pre-pandemic mental health metrics in seven of nine states identified by Axios with published data from 2023. Surveys did show lower rates of sadness and hopelessness. The CDC says overall, dedicating more resources to student wellbeing during the pandemic finally seems to be paying off. They say these improvements, they are not huge, but they are still important, and at least it shows that things might be finally going in the right direction. Yeah, some good news for a change on this topic. So the findings we should note, though, are not yet comprehensive. The CDC is expected to publish national results later this year, looking a bit closer at some of the states here. In North Carolina, the percentage of high school students who seriously considered suicide dropped nearly 20% last year from 2021. High school students also using fewer vape products, marijuana, and alcohol during this time in Washington state, more students reported having adults to turn to when feeling depressed. That was up a bit from 2021. In Colorado, the number of students who feel sad or hopeless, daily, dropped to 26%, still one in four, sadly, but that's the lowest levels since 2013. So some gradual improvement we're seeing here across the states. There are still issues when it comes to particular groups, LGBTQ students, teen girls, experience more stark mental health challenges last year than the general population, according to multiple states. But again, I want to give you a piece of good news here. We've been focused on this on a number of fronts, including our recent interview, which on the height of anxious generation. Again, you can check that out over on the Mo News interview podcast, Search Mo News interview, wherever you get your podcast, where we dive much deeper into this issue. All right, motion is Friday. Cheers. It's weekend time for what we are watching, reading and eating. Moshe, what are you watching? Joe, I've heard amazing things also to bring a box of tissues to watch the I am Celine Dion documentary over on Amazon Prime. She talks about her experience for the first time with stiff person syndrome, that for rare disorder that she's experiencing, that's really limiting her mobility, her ability to perform, et cetera. So planning to watch that this weekend, Joe, what do you got? Moshe, I'm going to be watching season three of The Bear, which according to most reviews is good, if not even better, than the previous two seasons. And a couple of people have been messaging me on Instagram that they wanted us to potentially circle back to some of the things that we said that we were going to be watching, reading and eating and say, yes, and discuss if we actually didn't know they were. So I do want to mention I watched Bratz was that documentary on Hulu all about the Brat Pack. It was totally different than what I expected. I thought it was going to be this kind of fun, uplifting documentary about the Brat Pack. But instead it was Andrew McCarthy, who was a member of the Brat Pack, doing a documentary about what the label Brat Pack, which was actually just came from an article and a journalist had basically labeled them the Brat Pack and they took it in a really negative way. And it sounds like at least from what he was saying, he felt like it derailed his career. A lot of the other members of the Brat Pack also felt similarly. So it was kind of him reconnecting with members of the Brat Pack that have not spoken, by the way, and he said 30 years, and then kind of working through this label of Brat Pack. So it was a really fascinating documentary, but very, very different than what I was expecting. My husband and I were like, what is happening here? This was, we thought it was going to be light, it was going to be like the 80s music. That is not what it is, but I think still worth a watch. Got him. Jill, what are you reading? Harry Potter. No, I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Taking a lot of people's suggestions, I'm actually going to wait and read that with my kids when I think that they are ready for it. But I'm actually reading Moshe, and I know you're going to be shocked by this, an article in The Atlantic by David Brooks. It's called, "You might be a late bloomer. The life secrets of those who flailed early, but succeeded by old age kind of goes along with my theme of always wanting to do like the 60s, the 40s, the 40s, the 40s, the 40s, the 40s. Yeah, I love stories like that, that people who didn't give up and kept going. Jill, I had the chance to meet Martha Stewart at a dinner this week who's still going strong at 82. So, really incredible. She's like still out in the town in New York, like building new brand partnerships, et cetera. So, that was very cool. I like that you're just dropping that casually in the podcast. Yeah. Like, I feel like I should know that. You got to listen to the end on Fridays to get to the good stuff. Moshe, what are you reading? So, Jill, coming up next month, we're going to do a deeper dive into the state of affairs when it comes to Russia and China with Jim Schudo from CNN. He has a new book out called The Return of Great Powers. So, I'm reading that right now in preparation for that interview. We should note, by the way, we just opened up the moe news Amazon store. So, we haven't linked in the show notes. And that's where we list all the books that we're reading. We also have like books we like, books that are on the podcast, kids books. Do mine get to be on there? I feel like yours. Sure. Okay, good. Later, I think more fun ones. Yeah. Well, Jill's beach reads will open the category. Let's go. At free finish recording today, we will add it to the Amazon store. But yes, the moe news Amazon store is a brand new thing that we're gradually literally building live on this podcast. So, you can check out all the books that we've been reading, books we've liked in the past, et cetera. And speaking of books, over on the premium podcast, this weekend, Jill and I spoke with Noah Tishby and Emmanuel Acho, who just wrote a new book called Uncomfortable Conversations with a Jew. And I think you'll find that very fascinating. Okay, Mosh, what are you eating this weekend? Jill, I'm eating walnuts. Seriously. Okay. Tell me everything. They go very well. And like Gia Sid putting that Alex makes in a variety of things. So we love actually tenderly rooted walnuts. They followed the moe news Instagram account from very early on. We love their product. And what's great is we actually have a code get 20% off. It's used to code Mosh 20, M-O-S-H 20, over a tenderly rooted. They have a lot of different flavors. And so walnuts, Jill, what are you eating? All right. So, Mosh, one of the restaurants that I profiled in my new newsletter, Enclave, I went to for dinner last night. It's called Taka Sushi. It's one of these hole-in-the-wall sushi places, like it actually looks closed from the outside. Like it's that hole in the wall. But it is potentially one of the better sushi places that I've been to among Island. The fish was incredibly fresh. You know it is a good sign when the sushi chefs don't really speak English that well? Authentic. Exactly. So I do recommend it. I would link to it in our newsletter or our show notes, but I don't even think they have a website. So whatever, I am Jill, she'll send you an address. You knock three times, you tell them I sent you. All right. Thank you everyone for listening to the Mo News Podcast. If you like what you hear, please share this with your friends, it will help us grow. 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