The Sports Brewery Podcast
357: TSB Goes To The Movies - Major League II
(upbeat music) (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) (singing in foreign language) - Welcome to TSP goes to the movies. I'm Alex at TSP pod. He is ski at TSP ski. He is king at Jirramni tweet at one of us. If you want us to watch your movie, unfortunately for you, that's gonna be like a month from now 'cause this week is your movie. Also join our discord. We get lots of movie suggestions in there. And by lots, I mean all of our suggestions in there. So join the discord. You can do all that. You can also give us list suggestions. We share stories in there. We bullshit. It's a good time. Sportsbury and discord. Let us know if you need an invitation for that. One of us can send you one. Also twitch.tv/abrog87. If you want to watch the sports podcast, twitch.tv/abrawg87. You do that every Thursday. If you hit follow, you can get the notification and click a button and then you're there. And you can talk shit with us and watch it live. It's a good time. Why not? If you miss those, you can watch the streams on YouTube. I post them on their sportsbury on YouTube. Just find them. Movie this week, as I said, is your movie final week of sequels, sequel month, major league two. Movie comes from WCP 541 in the discord. Major League two on Netflix came out in 1994. I would have said later, but 1994 is one of the- - First one came out in the 80s, so. - It did. I know, I would have said that came out in the 90s if you had asked me, but it makes sense. This movie on Rotten Tomatoes has a 5%. Tough scoring on that. - It is tough. - Tough scoring. - Yes, T-U-F-F. There is no Metacritic score. I could not find one, which is crazy, 'cause like came out in the 90s, it came out after the first major league. So one would presume there was a whole bunch of critic grades of this and whatnot, but there's nothing on Metacritic, couldn't find it. 5.6 on IMDB. So 5.6 IMDB, 5% on Rotten Tomatoes? I don't know, I don't know what that tells you, but. - Did you happen to look up major league back to the minor score on Rotten Tomatoes? - I think it's better, isn't it? - See, that's insane, that's insane. This movie is not that good, but it's not bad. It's so cheesy as the only downside to it, 'cause they turn into a PG movie. That's what made this movie bad. Major league back to the minor says a 21% on Rotten Tomatoes. - Yeah, insane, insane. - Which by the way, still fucking awful. Like we're, not apples and oranges. This is like oranges and slightly more rotten oranges. Like. - Vacula. - Yeah. I mean, I think we can safely say they're both bad. Like, Major League, I will argue with you, Major League 2 is a bad movie. - I am not disagreeing, it's bad. - Okay. - I just saying, I think, before this movie was made in the process, the original script and the original idea for this was not a bad movie. They just cheese this up and made it PG. That, the whole point of the first one, why it was great, is that it was rated R and it was gritty like it would be in a clubhouse. You know, people saying? - No, it goes exactly along the lines of Charlie Sheen's character in this movie. They cleaned it up and because they did that, it's a worse movie, he's a worse player, they're a worse team. It all goes back to that. They decided to clean up Wild Thing and it ruined the whole franchise, both franchises. Okay, so let me get to the cast. It is Charlie Sheen reprising his role as Rick Wild Thing Vaughn, Tom Behringer, Jake Taylor, Corbin Burnson as Roger Dorn, Dennis Haysbert, President of the United States of America, by the way, Pedro Serrano, James Gaiman plays Lou Brown, Omar Epps plays Willie Mays Hayes, replacing Wesley Snipes, obviously. Eric Bruskater plays Rube Baker. - Rube, great character though, great character. - Rube. - Elements, elements of Rube are good. Takashi Ishibashi plays Isuro Tanaka. - What's his name? - Man, I fucking nailed it. - I know, you did, that's why. - I know, you nailed that. - Tanaka, Tanaka is the character's name. Shut up. - You did a great job, man. - I know, thank you. No, thank you. I'm gonna like put that in the podcast Hall of Fame. David Keith plays Jack Parkman, by the way, he's great. He's a good villain, yeah, I think we can say that. Bob Euchar as Harry Doyle, Margaret Whitten, reprising her role as Rachel Phelps, Jesse Ventura, obviously, star of this. - White Lightning. - White Lightning. And Michelle Burke plays Nikki. - Yeah, so no snipes, mention that. And so I sort of looked into why Wesley Snipes decided to not-- - Did you see the movies he was making? - And I made a list of movies that he was in during that same time period. Also, like, he's never been on record talking about why he said no. Like, I mean, you would think somebody would have asked if at some point I put it in print, but like, he had better choices. Like, clearly, the movies that he put out, but like, he never like, like, burns. I think it was-- - I saw Corbin Burns and had an interview with him or had an interview and brought up Snipes. Pretty much saying he, I mean, he's making big time money in these huge blockbusters. And he, I guarantee he got probably a redraft of the script and was just like, this is stupid. No, no, the quote was, he's like, yeah, like, I went up to Wesley and was like, hey, we're making a major league too. And he's like, oh, is that what you're gonna do? (laughing) And he's like, and that sort of rubbed me the wrong way. It's like, okay, well, you made a horrible movie. He didn't. By the way, let me go ahead and read off this. - By the way, Corbin Burns and one of only three characters that were in all three movies. Can you name the other two? - Uh, uh, Serrano? - Serrano? - Yeah, Taylor. - Nope. - No, because there was vacula instead. - Oh, that's right. - Actually, actually, scratch that. There's four. I forgot, there's four. - Harry Doyle. - Youker makes an appearance. And then the hidden gem guy who has like no lines is the, I'm gonna say he's either the bench coach or the hitting coach. - Yup. - Duke temple. - I know exactly who you're talking about. - Yup. - Yup. - He's the only one that gives the sign in the first one for the suicide squeeze. Sloobra. - Yeah. - That's so great, by the way. - Thanks ball player him too. - That's a really good nugget. So here's some movies. I just made a short list of movies, Wesley Snipes was in between-- - Demolition Man. - Between 1989 when the first movie came out. - Hey, hey, hold on a second. How many movies are on your list there? - I made a list of like eight. Something like that. - Eight? Russian Man? - Yeah. - Passenger 57? - Yup. - Rising, no, Rising Sun was after that. - Do you want me to just read the list? - Yeah, I kinda wanna, I kinda wanna guess them all this. - Art of War. - Art of War, that. - King of New York, New Jack City. - New Jack City. - Whoa. - White men can't jump. Demolition Man, Money Train. - Oh, for money train. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - I forget money train. - Oh, it's so good. - Waiting to-- - Wait a second. - Waiting to exhale? He was in, by the way. - No, he wasn't. - He was. US Marshals, that was kinda the big one. - Okay. - And Blade. - Yeah. - No shit, that was all four years span. - Yup, like a seven year span, pretty much, yeah. - Well, the crazy, I mean-- - Not that you're major league one, which came out of me. - He was almost a no name going into major league one. - He was, yeah. - And then, I think New Jack was like right after it, which just skyrocketed him up. - So yeah, Wesley Snipes saying no to major league two, not even saying no, 'cause apparently they didn't even bother. They must have asked his agent or something, and his agent's like, yeah, no, he's making Demolition Man, so we're good, thanks, yeah. He's making that dumb action movie, you had Omar Epps playing in this dumb movie. Like, that's what he's making in real life. Oh, also by the way, Randy Quaid. - I'll get Quaid. - Reprises his role as the wacky fan. All right, this movie written by RJ Stewart, who is known for Zina Warrior Princess. - Is there any Kevin Sorbo credits to this guy? - He went on to write Zina Warrior Princess, so he had not really done much prior to major league two. - Is he the only writing credit? David S. Ward did not write this movie. - David S. Ward came up with the characters, but he did not write this movie. But there are other writers. There's Jim Lenowin and Tom Parker, who also wrote The Flynn Stones and Richie Rich. - See, there's the problem, is that, yeah, I could have swore I've read something that, I could have swore David S. Ward wrote this. - He directed it. - I know he directed it, 'cause I remember he had this whole thing, this is supposed to be a trilogy. There's supposed to be a third major league where they finally win the World Series. - RJ Stewart wrote the screenplay for this movie. - Yeah, crazy, all right, that's why it's terrible, 'cause David S. Ward is not a bad writer, so. - Agreed, yeah, so by the way, again, David S. Ward directed this movie, also directed the first major league and Back to the Miners, also directed The Program and Down Periscope. - Oh, great movie, Down Periscope. - We have talked about David S. Ward before, The Program, Down Periscope, Back to the Miners, Major League. You got me, David S. Ward. - I mean, you guys know my stance on Down Periscope, so. - Unfortunately, yes. - A flawless picture. - Oh, fantastic, fantastic film. - Film. - Yeah, I think they lost it in the writing, right? Like, you bring in people who write Zina, the Flintstones and Richie Rich, and I think you're kind of-- - Again, "White Stones" was a good movie, though. - That's what's good. - Richie Rich, not good. - But again, the problem in my eyes is not necessarily the writers on this. It's the studio, because I guarantee they're the one that said, "Oh, let's make this PG so we could have an even bigger box office than the first one." And this movie just cannot be made with PG. It just can't-- - It worked, by the way, 'cause they were number one in the box office when this came out. Do you know? Okay, take a wild guess. So 1994, what movie this beat out to be number one? I'll give you a hint. - Angels in the outfield. (indistinct) - Daniel Neil to "Dinophilia." - No, really close, though. Like, it's a Disney sports movie. - "Rookie of the Year." - Nope. - "D Mighty Ducks," the first one. - "Two, Mighty Ducks, two." - Mighty Ducks, dude! - "Dinking, dude!" - "Two, oh, wow, wow, I am so old." - "D, two, the Mighty Ducks." I mean, come on, let's get her right. - "When did Mighty Ducks come out?" And who did "D to the Mighty Ducks?" Who was their star of that movie? - Emilio! - Charlie Sheen's brother. Boy, it was coming up Estebes in 1994, baby. - By the way, I do have a-- - It was Martin up too. - Yeah. - Is that when "Apocalypse" now came out? - No, what was that White House show with him? - West Wing. - West Wing. He was probably doing the West Wing. - Holy shit. (laughing) - No, but I do got a theory. It's the Charlie Sheen Major League universe. - Also, I think it came out like the following year, '95, it came out with the movie "Chase," right? So what you wanna do, here's chronological order, you gotta watch this series in. You watch "Chase First," 'cause that's the prequel to Rick Vaughn, right? It's caught stealing a car, goes to the California Penal League. - Perfect. - You watch "Major League One." - I love it. - Then you watch "Major League Two," and here's the thing, post "Major League Two" once he retires, he gets in the finance, and then you watch "Money Talks." (laughing) That is the Rick Vaughn universe that you need to watch those four movies. - I thought you were gonna go Wall Street, by the way. - Oh, "Money Talks." - He gets in the finance and does "Money Talks." - Yup. - My first-- - Even though he's like a news, he's a news, well, I guess we're gonna say he's a news anchor than a Wall Street guy, but yeah. - Oh, yeah. - That was good. - Someone needs to show that in theaters. I go watch all four movies. - "Cutting in the crib." - Who had a bigger mid '90s? Charlie Sheen or Chris Tucker? - It's gonna be hard to find someone that tops Charlie Sheen and Jim. - No, Sheen. Yeah, 'cause Tucker really just had like Friday 5th element and-- - At the President's? - Rush Hour. - I mean, we'll rush him aside, rush hour, yeah. - That's a good point. That's a good argument. - I guess, yeah, 'cause-- - All these people are saying-- - Man, he basically was saying-- - 'Cause like Platoon was the '80s. - Nobody knows Charlie Sheen better than me. (laughing) - Or he's antsy, sorry. - I was gonna say 'cause like Platoon and stuff was like the '80s. So yeah, mid '90s, yeah. Maybe Tucker does get him in the mid '90s. - And he fizzled out, no doubt. - Yeah. - Yeah, I did-- - It's like Marco Rubio. - Marco. - Ron's the sanctimonious. - I did read something about how when Sheen was in the middle of his like sort of breakdown, he was talking about how they were right, they had Major League 3, like there was a script for Major League 3. - I told you, yeah. - Yeah, they were gonna make it. It was all set, but then him sort of falling off the edge that he fell off of sort of made it so that couldn't happen. And so instead they did back to the minors basically. And so that's why we have back to the minors. - And that's why Charlie Sheen is not in it. - As a very quick aside, the whole Charlie Sheen thing in like 2010 was very cringy that we all were like winning. - We thought it was cool, right? - Tiger blood. - Tiger blood, like. - What a weird, what a weird six months. - Why are we embracing this guy's addiction problems? - It was very bizarre. - Like why do we enjoy seeing him fall apart? - He had great catchphrases, what can you say? - Hey, I mean-- - Markitable, yeah. - Dare I say, he set up the 2016 election. - Many people are saying. Okay, so maybe we should, let's see, talk about this movie. So the plot of this movie, I guess, is, so I don't really, so I don't get why this happened, why this was an idea they had, but Roger Dorn buys the team from Rachel Phelps. - Which is, which, you know-- - Which, mid-90s, probably not plausible. But just think about that now, we're like Alex Rodriguez who signed like two $250 million contracts in the span of like 10 years. Has to buy a very shaky minority grounds of, and we're Dorn is just like, oh, this is by the whole team. - Like $150 million about the company. - Very quaint, very quaint number. - He also got a thing at the time, I want to piece foot in the bill for, I think that the Jake was built, like right at the time of this movie too. Is he having a fun, the Jake build as well? - Yeah, yeah. - Rachel Phelps ain't doing it. The Jake goes in the gun family. - Yeah. - Yeah, so he, I mean, what we know about sports ownership now, like it has to be approved. There's like checks and balances, and like the rest of the Major League Baseball has to approve and all of this stuff. So like the fact that they would let a guy who can't afford the franchise by the franchise is sort of, well, just dumb, dumb, it's dumb. - Like I'll say, it's dumb. - MLB let Derek Jeter and his crew by the Marlins a couple of years ago when they could not afford it. - Derek Jeter, minority owner, and that was very much so. - Well, I think he, I think there was a billionaire backer somewhere in there, but yes. - Yeah, no, Dorne bought the team by himself. (laughing) - And then couldn't afford to run the team after like three weeks of owning it. And so had to sell it back to Rachel Phelps, so. - Still, still not a bigger plot hole than this. So this is the next season, right? So Major League one, Major League two is the following season, right? People don't know how MLB works. All these, Charlie Sheen's coming from prison. Wesley Snipes is walking off the street and then all of a sudden after one season of making the playoffs, now all of a sudden they're making seven figure deals. That's not how baseball works. - Where did Charlie Sheen get that money? - Yes. - They all are acting like they all got brand new like million dollar contracts the following year. If go back to 94, there weren't a ton of guys making over a million dollars that weren't like elite. - And who signed them to these contracts? - Dorne, clearly Dorne did. - Dorne or Phelps, like neither. 'Cause Dorne didn't have any money. Like he spent all of his money buying the team. So stupid. - Wesley Snipes, Willie Mays Hayes had one season where he probably hit like 260 with 55 stolen bases. And all of a sudden he, they're just going to give him a million dollars. And you've got him on a contract for dirt sheep. He ain't going anywhere. - We're manipulating his time. You know what I mean? Absolutely. We still got five more years of you at the minimum guy. - See, I'll tell you right now. Go back to Major League one. Who on that roster is making the most money? - Probably Taylor. - I'm going to say. Taylor's a dreamman from Mexican League. - The old relief pitcher. - Harris. - Harris in my eyes. - Yeah, the Greaseball pitcher. - Yeah. - He's not in the second one. So somehow they dumped some salary right there. - Ed Harris? - Ed Harris. Oh no. - Not Ed Harris. - Eddy, Eddy Harris. - It is Eddy Harris, yeah. Him and Dorne are the only ones making any fucking money. And all of a sudden you cut Dorne and you cut Harris, boom. I guess they had some money, some wiggle room to get Parkman with, I guess. Remember Dorne signed himself and activated himself. - They signed a really good RSN deal with Fox Sports, Ohio in 1995. - Can we also say, I know it's a movie, that guys would get hit in the face with baseballs like 30 times a game with all the pimping that everybody does. And like Willie, like Willie Mays Hayes like pointing some downfield. He is hit in the skull. - I hate, I hate, even in the first one. We're the Taylor. - You don't like, you don't like Taylor's? - No. - It's a big switch, man. It's a movie on the drive now. - It's movie magic. - Come on, man. Babe Ruth never even did that. - No, he didn't, just bugs. - No, he didn't. It was just a ploy to get those quarter infielders back on their heels a little bit. - Yeah, that's how you beat out a single with Bum Knee's king, figure it out. - Yeah, yeah. - Come on, man. Fuck dude, like, no, like Serrano hitting a home run and just like standing there, like watching it and like Willie Mays Hayes like waving at the baseball. Like I swear to God, I swear to God, like hit. - I wish, I wish more players were like. - I kind of, like watching a movie. - I kind of wanted them to get hit in the head with a baseball. - But like in real baseball, we've seen Tim Anderson who did that. He's absolutely a piece of shit now. Jazz Chisholm two days in the Bronx aside, not very good either. Like we kind of, they beat that shit out of real players. - Oh yeah. - And it's also the 90s too. You get fucking one to the dome for, you know, looking at the catcher pitcher wrong. - Yes, exactly. - Exactly. - And Cor is just sitting there to dug out. Now the next time he's up, we're here. - Like Kyle Farnsworth was out there throwing. I mean. - I wouldn't fuck with Kyle Farnsworth. - Oh. - No. - Speaking of out there throwing, you notice everybody pitches all game? I mean, the only reliever in this movie was Charlie Sheen in game seven or whatever that was. - No, he went to the bullpen in the middle of the season there too. - 'Cause, because they needed to establish that a bullpen exists in this movie. - Well, here's the thing. You don't sign chute to a big deal in the off season and not expect him to be a fucking any eater. I mean, come on. Chute's there for a reason. - You're a mustache like that. You gotta eat up some innings, bro. - You know how I was still watching this again who I was just really missing? Was during the scene where they read tag people, I was missing gentry, getting right. I wanted him to come back again and get red tagged again. - I really did. - The red tag, that has never been a thing other than these movies. - Gentry had a nice mustache, didn't he? - No, he was clean shaving. - He's clean shaving. - He looked like someone that go door-to-door Bible salesman kind of thing. He was, could not take it at second base. I'll tell you that much. - Do they sell Bibles? - I mean, do you have you looked at a Trump internet? - Yeah, Trump talking on the side of his screen selling his Bibles over there. - I had a former coworker give me a Bible. Like, I still have it. It's like really nice. I haven't like read it or anything, but I was like, oh, thanks. This is actually like really cool. Okay, but sure, why not? Did I tell you the story? - Oh, I forgot about that. I'm not watching the gentry scene. Oh, man, I forgot about that. - Oh, it's a great scene. - That's real tear-chirker. - Did I get rid of that old yellow table? - Just slowly closes the door and it's not- - Oh, man. - Prayers. - Dream shatters. - Prayers up for gentry. (laughing) Did I tell you the story about the person who knocked on my door, like, asking me to join their religion? It's a quick story. - What religion was it? - So like, I laughed my ass off afterwards because it was literally the cliche situation you think of. Like, knock on my door. I opened the door and she's like, "Hi, my friend and I are trying to catch people while they're at home. Have you heard the good news? It's about the Bible." Literally said that. I was like, "Oh, no, thank you. No, thank you. Have a good day, though." And then closed the door and, like, just died laughing. Literally asked me if I'd heard the good news about the Bible. - Right, well. - I was like, "Dude, you're like, are you reading from something?" Like, that was incredible. Not even mad. - I was on campus today. I was picking up some sandwiches for lunch, right? "You heard the good news?" - And I saw these two Mormon, you know, they're Mormon guys walking around. I leave with my sandwiches. The guy goes like, "Hey, man." He's like, "What are you doing this Sunday?" - Oh. - And I was like, "What am I doing this Saturday?" I don't know. He's like, "Well, have you thought about coming to church?" I was just, I was just like, "Dude, that's the last thing I'm gonna do." And I just started walking away. (mumbles) - He wasn't even like, he was like, him and his buddy were sitting down like at an outside table, too, and like caught me walking. It's like-- - He's not even trying hard, man. - Like, come on. - Try to size up a person a little bit. - I know this is not the tangent we're going on. - But real quick, like, I feel bad. Like I generally, 'cause like, it's not cold calling, even you're like going up to somebody who's minding their own business and trying to bother them, basically. So like, I wouldn't do that myself. So I'm like, "Have a good day, no thank you." - Clearly, you don't love the Lord enough. - Yeah, no, clearly, yeah. Sorry. - Oh, it just, the whole Mormon thing where they go to your house and stuff, it's so like, annoyingly intrusive, and I'm sure most of these guys are fairly decent humans on some level. - Yeah. - But it just, no, no thank you. - Yeah. - Yes, take off my property. - I don't want to buy your, I don't want to buy someone's orange, miraculous kitchen cleaner, and I don't want to hear about God. Like, sorry. - We should, we should come up with a scheme where like, ski and I dress up as Mormons and like knock on your neighbor's door and fuck it up. (both laughing) I think we're on to something. - I think so. - Let's not say that on the podcast anymore, 'cause we don't need it on a public, on a public record. (both laughing) - At the eight minutes and 20 second level mark. (both laughing) - Got it, got it, got it. (both laughing) - Oh man. So we should note in this movie that if Dorne did not go broke and didn't trade Parkman, we would not have Tanaka. So he traded, he traded Parkman, who's like best hitter in baseball, probably. - He's a power hitting catcher, I mean, God. - Yeah, yeah. Like, traded him for Tanaka, who is like, it's like two, I think he said it's 270 or something. Best defensive outfielder we've ever seen in the history of baseball. The guy literally stands on walls and catches fly balls and like, I mean. - No, I would say he punches through the sign. (both laughing) - I'm just saying. - Joe Maurer and Matt Weaver's trading the, the power hitting catcher early, not the worst decision. - No. - I've been a, yeah. It'd be transitioning to first base there real soon. But I think the trade did, it hurt because it did give us Tanaka, who is just such a cliched character. - Like really awful. - It hurts to watch. - Like really awful. And like, what's his nickname, Kamakaze? - Yes, it was Kamakaze. - Kamakaze Tanaka. - And Serrano was also awful. Like they made his character like truly like terrible. - There was only two non-terrible people in this movie. - Euchre? - No, 'cause even he was tame, they had to tame him down too. - Yeah, it's true. - He still managed to get his, his good little quips in with what he could, but Lou Brown and Taylor, they're the only ones that didn't change characters really, at all. - That's true. They sorta had to get the yuker edge another way. So like where, like, 'cause apparently in the first major league, he just like improvised all of his lines and was just hilarious. So clearly, I think clearly some of them were written in this one. But they, I think they made him like a progressive drunk as the movie was going on instead of letting him say whatever the hell he wanted. So I don't know. That part, it was okay. - That was the gimmick. - Well, he started off drinking water opening night and then goes to beer and like. - And then whiskey and then he's passing out and handing off to the. - But we got Monty at least. - Lie ball. - Monty. - Caught. - Dynamite dropping Monty. - I love that. - But he does have a great liner though. It's like, I can see those broadcasting classes are really paying off. - That's good. - Yeah. - And he's not Shaquille O'Neal out there and left field, that ball's out of here. - They did tone down at least the Native American racism. They weren't made balls off the reservation. - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - It's still tribe talk. And they did, Chief Wahoo was still very prevalent in this movie. But I feel like it was toned down a little bit. - I feel like they don't know what Buddhism is, either. Like, like Serana is a Buddhist? - No, you're not. (laughing) - You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does. (laughing) - Oh, God, it's just everything. We know what's great about the first one is that it's one of the few rare, like real baseball movies. Like everything about it was believable to be a major league. This is just so campy and God, they just straight ruined it. - We have talked about that every sports movie we watch, like, is the sport good? Like, are the sports they're playing? Does it look believable? - This is one of the worst I've ever-- - Now, see, I disagree that the actual baseball being played wasn't the worst. - Omar Epps looks like he's never picked up a bat before. - Snipes didn't, technically Snipes didn't look that great swing in either. Same with Taylor, but like, it's usually, you see it through people like the pitchers, right? Shoop, he's just out there like, he's throwing the ball 70 miles, he's not throwing hard. - Shoop is the core of this movie. - Yes, he definitely is. - He's holding everything together. - He dropped a couple of like little one layers. - That marbles talk. - Yes, the marbles gets. We gotta talk about the marbles. It's like one of the big takeaways from this movie. You have no marbles. - Yeah. - I mean, watching it, it's not, it doesn't age well. - Having not seen this movie in a long time, I remember liking the marbles thing. - Yeah, absolutely. But I do love how every couple of years someone in the NBA will hit a big shot. It used to be like Sam Cassell. You know, it was Baron Davis. And now, you know, it goes where someone hit a big shot and they do the big marbles thing. It's just, it's not great, but I get it. I tend my cap. - Yep. It had something positive coming out of this movie, at least. 'Cause there was not much. - So Sheen, like, very much. I mean, 'cause another thing with the baseball, like in the first movie, I think we talked about that a few weeks ago. - Yeah, he was like playing spring training games and shit. - He was throwing almost 90. He was like, he was hitting like 86 or something like that in real life. And so you could tell Charlie Sheen was in the beginning of his period of the 90s where he like was hitting it hard and stopped taking care of himself because he looked the part. He definitely looked a little puffy compared to the first movie. - A little bit, a little bit. - I do love the times of like, man, I wish I could throw 96 again. - I know. - Like that's like blowing people. He's trying to name his- - He's trying to name his- - He's trying to name his fastball throwing it 96. I mean- - That's cute. - Yeah. - They're high schoolers throwing it that fast now. - Yep. - Yeah. - Literally. - High schoolers getting Tommy John so they could come back and throw it 102. - Yeah. All right, anything else before we grade this? - I mean, black hammer, white lightning, one of the highlights of this movie. - Kind of need to see that movie made. I mean, it's a little late, but- - I will say it for Omar F's sake, he had to act like snipes in Willie May's haze. It's a tough role to walk in on, to take over from another actor. He tried his best, it's not, it's just not good. - We say that about this whole movie, they tried their best. - It is all good. - Hey, hey Jake, let's go, hey Jake. - Yeah, yeah, God. - By the way, this movie made 53 million. - Yep. - Number one movie. Budget was a 25, FYI, so amazing. They didn't end up making Major League 3, but I think we know why. All right, so this is a listener movie. - Who wants to start grading it? Let's make it out of five. - Five this week? - Let's make it out of five. - Yeah. - I'll go first. I'm gonna give this a 1.5. - Ooh. - It's a bad movie. - See, you do realize Major League back to the minors exists. You can't give this movie a 1.5 when that movie exists. - I can give that a 1, you can do what I want. - No, 'cause that's too high. Major League 2 is at least five times better than Major League back to the minors. Major League back to minors is a half a point, so I'm giving this a 2.5. - Oh, wow. - Wow. - It has Barringer in it. It can't be fully bad. - I'm gonna give it a 1.9. It's a 1.9? - Yeah, it's not. - Yes. - Can't quite get to two. - 1.9. - I needed more Randy. - I needed more Randy Newman songs. - This movie felt like Major League 1 here. ♪ Oh gee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee-wee ♪
Braga, King, and Ski talk about Major League II, one of the lowest rated movies in Rotten Tomatoes history. But it's the movie that introduced the world to Tanaka and his marbles, so are the bad ratings earned or just hype? Listen!