Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show
Episode 14: Peter Bidegain
(upbeat music) - I got the whiskey. - Let me have a drink here, whiskey. - Better get out of here. - My name's Ken and I clean Willy Nelson's underhole. - Underhole. - I know you don't agree, but I think he's the king of country. - Get the fuck out of here. (laughing) - Get out of my studio. - I'm scared. - No, hell no. (upbeat music) - From the Ramona Radio Studios, it's the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show. (upbeat music) - All right, we're here. Welcome to the Travis Billy Ross Outlaw Country Show with me as always, sweet curbs. - Hey, hey. - And also with me as always. - Here we go. - Yup. - What's happening? - Today we've got a very awesome guest with us if you've ever been to Reds, Whites and Brews in Ramona. We've got Peter. - Good again. - Hanging out with us, how are you my friend? - Hi y'all, I'm doing good. - What's happening? - Welcome Peter. - Thank you. - Have y'all on the show my friend. - Appreciate that. - So one thing that you need to know is it's a drinking show. So we do drink on this show. - Gotcha. - There's my beer. - All right, here we go. - Cheers. (laughing) - Cheers. (laughing) - Peter, tell me a little bit about how you came about doing the red, whites and brews. Like, I know you're doing like car stereo stuff, right? - Yeah, well, if I tell you a long story, we'll be here for a couple hours. So I'll try to-- - Let's sum it up. - Cut to the chase. (laughing) - I started in Oklahoma with a couple of businesses. And when I moved to Ramona-- - I would travel to Oklahoma to do my work and I hated leaving Ramona. And I was complaining to the wife every single day. She says, why don't you just sell your property in Oklahoma and move everything up to Ramona? I'm going, and why don't you think of that? So I did. - Women are so smart. - Oh, you guys are amazing. (laughing) - They always come up with the best ideas at the best time, right? - Honestly, I don't know what we'd do without them. - The problem is it takes us years to convince you to say what we're thinking. (laughing) - You know, I would love it if my wife would say, you know what you should do? It's just like, have fun all the time, you know. - Right. - Well, I moved the businesses up to Ramona and never looked back. It was amazing. And quite a few years before that though, when I first bought a house in Ramona, I wanted to get to know the town. So I was strolled into an antique store right there at 4th and Maine. It's not there anymore, but anyway, it was called the Business Barn Antique Store. And I went inside and I, it's a long, skinny building. I walked all the way to the back and I got to a back door. The back door, heck, I thought it would lead to more antiques, right? So I opened the door up more and took a look inside and it was kind of dark. But my eyes adjusted to a guy standing behind a bar saying, welcome. And he was kind of holding his glass of wine out in front of me and like, cheersing me. I'm going, what, is this a speakeasy? He goes, no, this is so cow, beer and wine. Now, a lot of people listening to this show will probably know that name and have probably been there. It was only there a year, but after a year he lost his lease. He was very successful, but the owner of the, of the building didn't like the fact that there was a bar in the back of an antique store. So out he went fast forward. Now, all these years later, I'm sitting in my stereo store in Ramona, moved everything up for Belka Hone and I'm thinking, you know, I've been doing this for decades. Stereo, stereo work. And I just am tired of it. It's got to be something better. And then it just hit me. Gosh, so cow, beer and wine. That place was awesome. That was like four years before. - What year was this? Like what? - It had to be about 2000 and maybe 12. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, right around there. And I thought to myself, you know, why don't I turn my building from a stereo store into a beer and wine bar? And I was so excited when home that night till my wife and she's pretty conservative. I thought she was going to tell me I was crazy, but she agreed. She says, "Oh, that's a great idea." So literally the next day I applied for my ABC license and 10 months later I was open for business. - Wow. - That's how it started. - And was that in the building you're in now? Is that where it was the so-cal beer and wine? - No, no, so-cal beer and wine was at fourth in Maine. - Oh, okay, okay. - And I'm at sixth in Maine. - 'Cause you're in one of the most historic buildings in all of Ramona. - It's got to be the most historic because it was a very first structure built as a commercial building on Main Street. It was a general store to supply the gold miners going up to Julian. - Oh, yeah. - And when was that building built? - 1883. - Oh, wow. - Wow. - Wow. - It's truly a survivor. - That's amazing. - I know. - Wow. - I mean, so many buildings just got destroyed and I think the next oldest is the Town Hall, 1895. So I predate that by 12 years. - Wow. - And then-- - That's crazy. - Yeah, and then after that next door you guys know about the bicycle shop, CC Bikes. - Oh, yeah. - That old building. That was built in the 1920s. - Oh, wow. - Just give you a kind of a historical reference. - I love the history in this town, man. - I love Ramona. And going all the way up to like Julian, like we live on a property that was established in like 1885. And somewhere around there, 1885. But yeah, it's just pretty cool to like think back and like look at old pictures. Like if you go to Ramona cafe, they have a bunch of those older like those old classic pictures from like the start of everything. That's pretty cool. - Yeah, there's a in fact on that note, if you go to Country Kitchen, which is a really good place for breakfast and they have a huge painting on one of the walls. - Yeah, and it was done in the '70s. But anyway, the main focal point of that painting is the building in the foreground. And it happens to, and it says on the sign of the building, it says, I want to see if I can get it right. I think it says that I'm having a senior moment here. The Ramona General store, something like that. But anyway, that's my building. And I had no idea that somebody actually did a painting of it. It's kind of cool. - So inside of your bar, your actual bar itself, what was that at some point? You got all the corks in there, like the bar itself? - Oh, that was, it reminds me of something like a candy shop or something like that. - Yeah, it looks like a bar because of the height. But I raised it up with some metal cast iron tub feet to make it look like a bar. But it's actually just like you were saying, it was a dry goods counter at a general store that came out of Illinois. And it's designed to hold just drawers and drawers of dry goods, candy, it could be anything. - Wow. - And where the corks are in the little display windows, that's where they would display the dry goods or the candies so people could point and say, yeah, I want some of that. The clerk on the other side of the counter could open up the adjacent drawer and pull out whatever it was that they wanted. - So behind the store, it was like, what is the back area now? It was what, it was a hay barn, right? - Yeah, I mean, originally when the building was built in 1883, they actually had a stables out back and kept horses, fresh horses, so people could ride up to Ramona from say San Diego to mine for gold or silver up in Julian. And they need to turn in their horses and get a fresh set of horses to make it up the rest of the way to Julian. So that's what originally was used for the back area. - It was like an old school enterprise rent a car. - Yeah, just with horses. - Enterprise rent a horse. - I never thought about the fact that like-- - Horse power has a whole new meaning. (laughing) - Yeah, I just kind of wonder if they brought up the horses pre-washed though. - Right. - Right? - I know. - If you're the Emerald Club, do you get to walk straight to your horse? - Or make sure they got some fresh shoes on, they're good to go. - So how did you decide what you were gonna have in your bar, like, 'cause now it's different beers, craft beers, San Diego beers, but almost exclusively Ramona Valley wine. - Well, we started off with the thought that we're gonna do only exclusively Ramona wines, 'cause there's so many wineries in Ramona, and I think that's why people come up, they wanna really experience that. But we also tried to do as best as we could, local San Diego craft beer. Well, forget about it, because even though we have a lot of breweries in San Diego, it's not enough to supply the thirst of the people that come into the bar, and there's so many other great choices all over the country, all over the world. So we finally, on the beer side, decided to branch outside of San Diego County and went into other states, and, you know, we bring in Mexican beers and all that, it's all drinkable. - Yes, and so. - I've always send people over it, 'cause people come into pommel, and a lot of times people ask, oh man, you only sell wine, 'cause it's usually a wife and a husband traveling, and the husband usually wants beer. So after they've had a couple drinks, I said, well, you know, red, white, some brews just across the street, they still have the local wine, but they have a wide selection of beer, they have fun back patio. - Sure, yeah, thank you. - So it's nice to have back, yeah. I gotta request something from you, though, Peter. - Okay. - We need some canned, cours lights. (laughing) - You see, you see, there's always that. - No, yeah, you have one guy. There's that one guy. - It's usually Travis. - No, it's always me. It's got, so I was like, we don't have any. - No, he says we only have it when the keg is out. - That was right, yeah. - I was just gonna say, in Travis, I know you love those silver bullets. - Yeah. - The 16-ounceers. - Oh, yeah, yeah. I got a hydrate, man. - How many taps do you have? - Total of 23. - 23 taps. - Oh, wow. - 23 taps, wow. - Yeah, that's ridiculous. - And then we have the three slushies, also. - Yeah. - Which is the turquorn bar cider hard slushie, two of those. And then we have the Vina Ramona white chardonnay slush. And on these hot days, right? Anything better than that. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, got a little nice slushie. - Yeah. - So Peter, do you like country music, yeah? - Oh, I love it. - What's one of your favorites, one of your favorite outlaw country persons? - Oh, man. Well, some of this, the newer, I call it like the kind of outlaw country, I guess, the Tyler Childers. - Oh, yeah, okay. - And some of those other performers like that. What is that classified as? - Tyler Childers, I would say just like a... - I would call him outlaw. - Yeah. - Like new school outlaw? I mean, 'cause he's more contemporary, but his music is definitely in not vein of country. They're not hip hop country. - Oh, no, no, no, no. - I'm not a big fan of that. - No. - But yeah, I like Tyler Childers. I like Creed Fisher. - Love Creed Fisher, man. - Yeah. - He's coming to Ramona soon. - He's been to Ramona before. - Yeah, we see him. - We went to Psalm last time he was here. - I love his lyrics. - Yeah, that was a good concert. - Yeah. - Over at that old movie theater. - But I also like a little bit older school. One of my all-time favorites is Jason Aldin. - Jason Aldin, huh. - And he's still hitting hard. - Yeah. - He's getting some hits and doing a good job. - Try that in a small small town, that rates on. - Pretty big. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What about some older, older, more classicer, like the traditional outlaw country? - We're talking, we're going back to like 50, 60s, 70s. I mean, we can go, we can stick. - So I got to get to the question, I ask all my guests. Who would you say the king of country is? And you could say whoever you want, but it's definitely not. - I mean, I would say you could say whoever you want, except for one person. (all laughing) - Well, then I have no answer. (all laughing) - No. - It's okay. - No, you say whoever you want. - If you say one answer, he goes good. And the other one, we get to watch him squirm. So either way, either way we win. - No, who would you say the king of country might be? - That's really tough because, you know, you've got the phenomenal performers like George Strait, who's. (all laughing) - Ethan Pick George Strait as well. - I know, but you're just flew out of my nose. - But I have this special affinity for Jason Aldine. Just love his tone, his lyrics, the way he expresses himself in his songs. Anyway, I. - He's not my favorite, but I do like dirt road anthem. - Yeah, that was a good one. I kind of got played out, in my opinion. I played out, it played a lot. But let's listen to something from Jason Aldine. Oh, there we go. - There. ♪ Like a rainy Sunday morning makes me wanna stay ♪ ♪ And bedtwisted up all day long ♪ ♪ You're my aspiration girl, you take me places ♪ ♪ Put the word right into these songs ♪ ♪ Stealing kisses undercover, babe ♪ ♪ I see forever when I see your face ♪ ♪ And I swear, God made you for me ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ ♪ Another one, you make it easy ♪ ♪ With every little thing you do ♪ ♪ You're my sunshine in the darkest days ♪ ♪ My better half, my saving grace ♪ ♪ You make me who I wanna be ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ ♪ You took all my rough around the edges ♪ ♪ Never let it ruffle up your feathers, angel ♪ ♪ Yeah, never life you got me wrapped around your finger ♪ ♪ And I like it just in case you can, angel ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ ♪ Another one, you make it easy ♪ ♪ With every little thing you do ♪ ♪ You're my sunshine in the darkest days ♪ ♪ My better half, my saving grace ♪ ♪ You make me who I wanna be ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Scaring kisses undercover babe ♪ ♪ See forever when I see your face ♪ ♪ And I swear God made you for me ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ ♪ Another one, you make it easy ♪ ♪ With every little thing you do ♪ ♪ You're my sunshine in the darkest days ♪ ♪ My better half, my saving grace ♪ ♪ You make me who I wanna be ♪ ♪ You make it easy ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ You make it easy ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Some of my songs I have casually mentioned ♪ ♪ The fact that I like the drink beer ♪ ♪ This little song is more to the point ♪ ♪ Roll out the barrel and wind me your ears ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It makes me a jolly good fellow ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It helps me unwind ♪ ♪ And sometimes it makes me feel mellow ♪ ♪ Makes you feel now ♪ ♪ Westies to rough champagne cost too much ♪ ♪ If I took a smile out in here ♪ ♪ This little refrain ♪ ♪ Should help me explain as a matter of fact ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It likes beer ♪ ♪ My wife often browns ♪ ♪ When we're out on the town ♪ ♪ And I'm wearing a suit and a tie ♪ ♪ She's sipping vermouth and she thinks I'm uncool ♪ ♪ Why yell as the waiter goes by ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It makes me a jolly good fellow ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It helps me unwind ♪ ♪ And sometimes it makes me feel mellow ♪ ♪ It makes you feel mellow ♪ ♪ Westies to rough champagne cost too much ♪ ♪ But I took what's my mouth in gear ♪ ♪ While this little refrain ♪ ♪ Should help me explain as a matter of fact ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ Last night I dreamed that I passed from the scene ♪ ♪ And I went to a place so sublime ♪ ♪ All the water was clear and tasted like beer ♪ ♪ Then they turned it all into wine ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It makes me a jolly good fellow ♪ ♪ I like beer ♪ ♪ It helps me unwind ♪ ♪ Sometimes it makes me feel mellow ♪ ♪ Makes you feel mellow ♪ ♪ Westies to rough champagne cost too much ♪ ♪ But I took what's my mouth in gear ♪ ♪ While this little refrain ♪ ♪ Should help me explain as a matter of fact ♪ ♪ I love beer ♪ ♪ Last night I dreamed ♪ (soft guitar music) ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ ♪ Heaven knows that you're sipping nice and slow ♪ ♪ I tried to pick a place that ain't too crowded ♪ ♪ I gladly go wherever he wants to go ♪ ♪ You can bet I'd order up a couple of toes ♪ ♪ And tell them waitress to put them on my tab ♪ ♪ Yeah I'd be sure to let him do the talking ♪ ♪ Careful when I got the chance to ask ♪ ♪ You tell me how to turn the other cheek ♪ ♪ To save a sorry soul like me ♪ ♪ And do you hear the prayers I send ♪ ♪ And what happens when life ends ♪ ♪ And when you think you're coming back again ♪ ♪ Yeah I tell everyone ♪ ♪ But no one would believe it ♪ ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ ♪ Yeah I'd put my whole paint check in that jeep box ♪ ♪ And I'd fill it up with nothing but the good stuff ♪ ♪ And sit somewhere we couldn't sit up ♪ ♪ And ask him how to turn the other cheek ♪ ♪ To save a sorry soul like me ♪ ♪ Have you been there from the storm ♪ ♪ How'd you change the center's heart ♪ ♪ And it's heaven really just beyond the storm ♪ ♪ Yeah I tell everyone ♪ ♪ But no one would believe it ♪ ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ ♪ Now he can probably only stay ♪ ♪ Or just a couple rounds ♪ ♪ But I hope and pray stay ♪ ♪ Until we shut the whole place down ♪ ♪ And ask him how to turn the other cheek ♪ ♪ To save a sorry soul like me ♪ ♪ What's on the other side ♪ ♪ Is mom and daddy all right ♪ ♪ And if it ain't no trouble, tell him I said hi ♪ ♪ Yeah I tell everyone ♪ ♪ But no one would believe it ♪ ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ ♪ Yeah I tell everyone ♪ ♪ But no one would believe it ♪ ♪ If I could have a beer with Jesus ♪ - Oh man, what a good song. We're here with Peter Biddigan from Reds, Wides and Brews. - Hi there. Hey man, I see you wearing a shirt that says "Dink Floyd." What is that? - It looks like Pink Floyd, but it's "Dink Floyd." (laughing) - Well about a year ago, my wife and I discovered Pickleball. - Pickleball? - It's like all the rage all across country. - It is, everybody's playing it. And in fact, I have a cousin that's been playing for 20 years, he teaches, he coaches. And he's been bugging me to play and I'm thinking, I play a different sport. It's like who plays Pickleball? - I never even heard of it until probably two years ago. - I don't think I've ever heard of it, what is it? - Well, it's like a combination of tennis and table tennis. - That's what I've heard, tennis and ping pong. - Yeah, tennis and ping pong. To shrink down the tennis court, the net's only 22 feet long or wide. And the paddles are kind of like a ping pong paddle. Ball doesn't really travel that fast, but excuse me, I decided to start playing because I injured my left knee so bad that I can't play my regular sport anymore. It hurts too much, but-- - What was your regular sport? - Regular handball. - Okay. - And that's not the field handball, but the indoor, hit the ball with your hand, handball, both hands. - Oh, okay. - And there's also outdoor version of handball, three wall and one wall. But anyway, I can't play those sports anymore. So I decided to pick up Pickleball and it's great. You can play doubles and hardly move anywhere. You can just stand there and smash the ball. - What kind of ball do you play with? Like a tennis ball or a racquetball? - It's a whiffle ball. - Oh, wow. - It's a ball. - Oh, so that's why it has a travel bar. - Yeah, it's like a whiffle ball, but to answer your original question, the reason my shirt says Dink Floyd is one of the main shots that you do in Pickleball is a Dink shot. And that's probably the most popular shot to learn and master. It's not easy to do, but it's when you barely hit the ball over the net softly. And the person who returns the Dink probably has to return it with another Dink 'cause you can't, it's too low to smash. But if you make the mistake and you hit the Dink a little too high, the ball gets smashed at you literally, so you better beware. - I never heard the hern, about three or four years ago, I started hearing the term Dink, which is dual income, no kids. And so when you walked up, I'm like, all right, all right. - Dual income, no kids, yeah. - See, and I've never heard that, but my little brother was very small when he was born. And so my dad called him Dink or Dinkie forever. Oh, it says nickname Dink. (laughing) - Well, Pickleball has an interesting history. And I think it was originally invented in the '60s, I believe, by some people that probably really couldn't play tennis anymore, they needed something that was a little slower. - Something like a hand-eye coordination. - Yeah. - And so they invented this game, and they didn't know what to call it. Well, I guess the family dog would hang out at the court all the time, you kind of get in the way, and his name was Pickle. - Oh. - Oh, funny. - So there you go. Is there a place to play Pickleball in Ramona? - Yeah, the San Diego country estates. - Oh. - Eight courts, there used to be tennis courts there. I think there's, how many tennis courts are there now? I think there's two left, but they took out at least four of the tennis courts, and convert them to eight Pickleball courts. But to play there, you have to know somebody to make a reservation, and it doesn't cost anything. You can just play there as long as it's with a resident. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, okay. - Yeah, Holly plays out there at Pomo, the girls at the salon play out there, Pickleball. - There's a lot of Pickleball groups. - All right, Peter. - Yep. - I'm gonna challenge you to a Pickleball game at some point. - Let's do it. - Me and Sweet Curbs against you, and who? - Whoa, whoa, whoa, how did I get to go into this? - No, there's two per team, right? - Yeah, it's doubles. - Doubles. - All right. - We're gonna lose, though. We've never played. - All right, so you and the Misses against me and Sweet Curbs. - Yeah, Barb and I against-- - Did Barb play? - Oh, yeah. - Okay. - Oh, we're still gonna lose. - She's still gonna lose. (laughs) - There's a huge learning curve. - Yeah, you're gonna have to give me the rundown on the rules and all that. - It's fun, you learn. - Look at, you were awful, confident a minute ago. Now you're like, okay, we need to have another rules. - Well, yeah, I got to know the rules of the game before I play. - Maybe a test run. - But we should do it. We should do that. - Join us, we have a great group started, we'll just put you on the group chat for pickleball and-- - Sounds like fun. - There you go. - Cool, I could do that. - Can I wear boots, or is that-- - Yeah, you could, but-- - I think your fans would probably be better. (laughs) - It's not a boot wearing game. (laughs) - I don't think there's any boot wearing sports unless you're riding a horse. - Riding horses or bowls, eh? - Not many bowls. - Come on now. - Are you gonna ride a bowl? Rodeo's coming up. - I'll ride a bowl. I'm not afraid. - Yeah, you are. - No, I'm not. I would totally ride a bowl. - Would you? - Hell yeah. - Then I'd see a winner. - No way in hell I would get on a bowl. Peter, would you ever get on one of the noodles? - Yeah, a mechanical bowl. If somebody I knew was in control of it-- - No, real cool. - With one of those big cushy things, those airbags around it. - Dude, I would totally ride a bowl. That'd be fun. - It'd be fun for two seconds. - I-- - We hit-- - Yeah, until you threw your back out and flew off. - So I don't know. I was probably about seven or eight years old and my mom had goats in the back. In the backyard, we live on the lakeside. (laughing) Jumping on one of them. - Oh, you might bust it. - I just go and I busted my ass. - And now you want to jump on a bowl? - Now I want to jump on a bowl. I'd love to do that. That'd be fun. I want to make sure I wear a helmet. Not really. I'd wear a-- - The rodeo's-- - This one's a rodeo. The rodeo should be here soon, right? - When's amateur rodeo? - When is amateur rodeo? - When is that? - It was a bull riding night. - I know. - I don't know if that's a thing. Seems like a high ability. - It doesn't seem like a thing at all. Hey Peter, you know that I'm in a band called Dirty Confetti. You know that. - I've heard of it. - You've heard of it. - Yeah. - Have I told you the humbling story about how that name came about, Dirty Confetti? - Oh man, you got to let me tell that story. You know, I do. (laughing) - It wasn't his fine establishment. - It was, but let me give you the earlier briefing of it. So I was in a band before Dirty Confetti and it was Rob, my drummer. And we were hanging out at Red Whites and Brews, right when you first opened that back area, right? When there was like straw. - Hey bales. - Yeah, hey bales with the burlap sacks over them. It was so awesome. - Proceeding. - Yeah, I love that, man. So we were hanging out there and it had to have been like a Saturday 'cause we were day drinking and it was probably, it was me, Rob. - Didn't have to be a Saturday. - Me, Rob, Wendy, pretty much Dirty Confetti now. But we were hanging out there and we were in a different band and they had wanted to kind of slow down and play in and me and Rob were like, "Now, we wanna keep playing "so we wanna do our own thing. "We're gonna do our own project." And so we were like talking about it while we were hanging out there. You had a sangria, you had Turtle Rock sangria, which was amazing. And we were hanging out there this day time. It was a little warm out. And we were like, "Let's do our own thing. "Let's get a group to get a band together." And we're like, "Okay, cool." So they're like, "Yeah, let's do it." We didn't even have a bass player at the time when we first started this whole idea. And we were like, "All right, cool." So we got it, we're gonna do it. We're gonna make this happen. We're gonna be a band. What are we gonna name the band? And we were just going off on like dumb shit, you know? Like I will be whatever, you know? And so I don't know what happened the day before at Red, White's, and Bruce, but there was like a party or something. And there was a bunch of confetti like on the ground still from the night before, I think. And I was like, "Oh man, yeah, "look at all this stuff, Dirty Confetti all over the ground." And I was like, "Dirty Confetti." They were like, "That'd be a cool band name." And we were all laughing about it. We were like, "That's a dumb name." We were like, "Nah, I kinda like that name." (laughing) - Were you there when all that plays? - I probably was there. - No, I didn't really know each other then. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't really know you at the time. We were just there hanging out. That was a bitch and spot dude for the summertime, like hanging out in the back. - Well, it still is, Travis. - Oh, it's awesome. - Oh, it's even better now. - It's even better now. - Yeah, 'cause back in the day-- - You didn't even have the fire pits or anything like that. - I don't think so. - No, you just, it was just like a hay barn. - It was, I mean, half the hay barn was paved and the rest was dirt. - Yeah. - And we had those hay bale seedings all over the place, including in the dirt. No one seemed to mind, but when we have parties there, the party that you were speaking of Friday night, we try to tell everybody, "Listen, when you're done "with the party, just clean up after yourselves." (laughing) - They always do. - They didn't really sweep up all the dirty confetti that was off on the ground, but it was dirty. - That's okay, 'cause look what happened. - That's exactly what it was, man. - Yeah, that's a cool story. That's kind of cool how like, "Hey, I don't want to go fast off, but I mean, "it's kind of cool." - Did I ever get paid a finder's fee for that? - Yeah, right. - I don't think you did. - But he gets his 1% on a contract, right? - I'll pay you your finder's fee. We'll play there for free on a Saturday or a Friday or something. (laughing) - I'll play there for free, I got to let the band know. - I have a question, 'cause Peter, you gotta leave here in a few minutes, I don't want to hold you up. But I'm curious, 'cause we've gotten to know you through the music scene, Ramona Radio got involved with the project or two and stuff like that. Your music, I don't want to say background, but how you got into music, was it through business necessity or was this something that you've always wanted to do, like was this something you enjoyed doing? What's your music interest? - I think really, the whole bar scene that I started was just a crazy thought that popped into my head. Like I said that one day, I was just sitting in my bar or my bar at my stereo store and it just occurred to me that we needed a bar or a beer and wine tasting location back in Ramona since SoCal, SoCal Beer and Wine was gone. So it was sort of a natural progression to bring music in because I've always loved music, live music, recorded music, all kinds of genres from rock to country to jazz, it didn't matter. So it just seemed like a good fit to bring music into the bar and originally I was just gonna do like a single solo artist in the corner of the bar inside 'cause we didn't have the back, Haybarn. But the Haybarn came so quickly and we didn't really waste much time developing that. It's like no, we can put the music out back because we have a lot more room and that's kind of where it started. - Dude, I'm gonna tell you what, man, I don't think you so much for everything that you've done and for the music and the musicians in this town, building that stage and building the whole back area because every Monday night, man, we have the greatest time. That's one of the nights that all the musicians get together and we get to hang out and not really worry about anything really like with normal things that musicians worry about. So we get there and it's like a big family, right? We get to get up and try new songs, get up and try whatever we wanna do and mess around with and actually play with other musicians that we don't normally play with on Monday nights. It's amazing, man, I appreciate it for that. - Yeah, 'cause for those that aren't completely familiar, give us the kind of timeline on how the whole Monday night dealers, it's called dealer's choice. - Dealer's choice, yeah. - Right, and how that Monday, because for those that have never been there, this is the place the town goes on Monday nights. I mean, it's tons of live music, an amazing community, big outdoor area, and half the town shows up on Mondays. So can you give me a little background on how that whole thing evolved a little bit? - Sure, well, I think it all started when I first went to Three Hills Winery, I think it was just before COVID, to get involved, get involved, but listen to the, what do they call it, Travis, Circle in the Round? - Yeah, like the Three Hills Song Circle. - Three Hills, okay. And I was there, you were there, Tally, Steve Tally was there and a bunch of other people were playing. I was so impressed by that. So after that happened, I said to Steve Tally, I said, look, you're a musician, don't you think we could do something like this in the hay barn? And he said, "Oh, this would be a great place." And we were just starting to talk briefly about developing something, but that was just before COVID and then COVID hit and everything kind of just got put on the shelf for a while until we got through that mess. And then once we got back on track after COVID, guess who shows up in our town is Ashley Norton. - Yeah. - And she started coming to the hay barn and doing some performances and so I approached her. And I think Steve Tally even encouraged me to talk to her because she was pretty into promoting whatever we could promote music-wise in Ramona. And she said, you know, it'd be really cool to have some type of music alliance thing going on. And I said, I would love to do that. I've been talking to Steve Tally about this for years. Can we do it on a Saturday night? I didn't want to do Friday night because smoking can and brewery has their open mic and I want to step on their toes. So I said, let's do a Saturday night. And Ashley goes, oh no, that's not a good night to do it because all the musicians are gigging and they're available. - No, so funny, she actually hit me up too about that. And she's like, I told her Monday. I was like, let's do it Monday because- - That's what she says? - That's what everybody's not gigging, you know? So the good news is because COVID kept us from opening 70s a week, pre-COVID, we were 70s a week post-COVID, we were five days a week. One of the nights we were closed was Monday. So when she said, how about Monday night, I'm going, that's great because it'd give me a reason to open the bar Monday nights. And so that's where it developed. - Heck yeah. - And so after that meeting, we kicked off the actual first Alliance Monday in March. - By the way, if my memory shows me. - That was the first one. - The first one, yeah. And it didn't start off huge. It was mostly a lot of musicians, you know, supporting each other, showing up. But man, is it just blossom from that point? - It really is the place to be on Mondays. - Not only just for Mona musicians, people are coming from down to San Diego, from all over. - Yeah, I think we've had a couple of musicians from out of state, Austin. - Nashville, shut up. Yeah, so I think we're putting ourselves on the map. - Heck yeah, man. - I think it's a cool program. Peter has mentioned the Alliance a couple of times. And he's referring to the Ramona Music Alliance, which is kind of an informal organization where all the musicians of the area, there's even people out of Ramona who are part of it. But they get together and they work and collaborate to work in promoting music and working with venues and stuff like that. - Yeah, it's a pretty cool thing. - That's a pretty neat organization. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's a good thing. It's a very cool collaboration thing with all the folks. And the peeps and all the musicians that I love you guys out there who are, if you're listening right now, which I hope you are. (laughs) - They're listening. - They're listening. - I get the call, I get the call. So, you know, we air every Sunday at six on Ramona Radio and then it's on all the podcast over Monday. By Monday afternoon, my phone starts going off. Tell Travis this. - Oh, I know. - Oh, that was a great show. - Well, that's the other thing I like. We had a couple of friends traveling this past week and everyone said, like Ashley said, oh, on my way to Mona Ray, I was listening to the show, Robin Wendy, on their way to Arizona, they were listening to it. - Yeah, that's fun. - So that's super cool to know that you like it. - Well, I know we're running out of time with Peter, so. - Oh, yeah, Peter, you gotta get to your dink tournament. - I gotta get to my, the dink show. When I pick a ball group, we're gonna get to the dink show. - Your pickle ball group. (laughs) - Hey, don't make fun of it until you try it. - No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you it's the thing. - I'm not challenging you, but we'll come out tonight. - We will take photos when we do this and we'll post it on our social media. - I won't see that. - We'll let you know who wins. - Just don't beat us too bad, Peter, that's all we ask. - I think you're gonna beat our asses, but we're good. - All righty. - Peter, thank you so much for hanging out with us. - Thanks for having me, this is beautiful Sunday afternoon. - Yeah. - And we'll see you at red, white, some brews. - I'll be there. - Yeah, yeah. (upbeat music) ♪ I've had a large map last but last night ♪ ♪ I've had a couple beautiful girls tell me goodbye ♪ ♪ Trucks break down, dogs run off ♪ ♪ Politicians lie behind by the balls ♪ ♪ It takes one hand ♪ ♪ Count the things I can count on ♪ ♪ Long way rain, but a man ♪ ♪ That ain't ever let me down ♪ ♪ Long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ ♪ Like an diamond raised in football teams ♪ ♪ To turn this boy apart ♪ ♪ Like a neon dream ♪ ♪ It just don't know me ♪ ♪ That far's a missed guitar ♪ ♪ Long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ ♪ Throw my heart ♪ ♪ When she was a general out of blue ♪ ♪ Jean made it by her inner eyes ♪ ♪ And drove me crazy with red tail lights ♪ ♪ When she left town ♪ ♪ If I didn't do it, then I'd show you ♪ ♪ Long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ ♪ Like an diamond raised in football teams ♪ ♪ To turn this boy apart ♪ ♪ Like a neon dream ♪ ♪ It just don't know me ♪ ♪ That far's a missed guitar ♪ ♪ Long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ He takes a long hand to get things I can't own ♪ ♪ But I got a long hand ♪ ♪ And it's creeping down on the cold run ♪ ♪ 'Cause long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ ♪ Like an diamond raised in football teams ♪ ♪ To turn this boy apart ♪ ♪ Like a neon dream ♪ ♪ It just don't know me ♪ ♪ That far's a missed guitar ♪ ♪ And long, that guy's company never broke my heart ♪ ♪ No ♪ ♪ He never broke my heart ♪ (upbeat music) (upbeat music) ♪ There's a tear in my beard ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm crying for you dear ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ Into these last blue bear ♪ ♪ I have shed a million tears ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ I'm gonna keep drinking ♪ ♪ Until I'm petrified ♪ ♪ And then maybe the tears will leave my eyes ♪ ♪ There's a tear in my beard ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm crying for you dear ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ That night I walk the road ♪ ♪ And the night before ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ It's in my life it's true ♪ ♪ And I'm so told don't lose you ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ I'm gonna keep drinking ♪ ♪ Until I can't move at home ♪ ♪ And maybe my heart won't hurt me so ♪ ♪ There's a tear in my beard ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm crying for you dear ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ Oh the pride in my pride ♪ ♪ But my tears are getting higher ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ All these blues that I found ♪ ♪ Have really got me down ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ ♪ I'm gonna keep drinking ♪ ♪ Until I can't even pray ♪ ♪ All in the land we guide ♪ ♪ Slept a wing, there's a tear in my beard ♪ ♪ 'Cause I'm crying for you dear ♪ ♪ You are on my lonely mind ♪ (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) ♪ Really man come on ♪ ♪ Six o'clock news is somebody been shot ♪ ♪ Somebody's been a few ♪ ♪ Somebody blew up a building ♪ ♪ Somebody stole a car ♪ ♪ Somebody got a way ♪ ♪ Somebody didn't get too far ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ They didn't get too far ♪ ♪ Grandpa paid told my papay back in my day song ♪ ♪ I'm glad I had the answer for the wicked that he done ♪ ♪ Pick all the rope in Texas by the tall old tree ♪ ♪ Round up all of them bad boys ♪ ♪ Hang on high on the street ♪ ♪ For all the people that sing ♪ ♪ That justice is one thing you should always find ♪ ♪ You gotta settle up your balls ♪ ♪ You gotta draw a hard line ♪ ♪ When the gun smoke settles ♪ ♪ We'll send a victory to ♪ ♪ The moon and will all be back at the local school ♪ ♪ We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces ♪ ♪ Singing whiskey for my man ♪ ♪ Before my horses ♪ ♪ We got too many gangsters doin' ♪ ♪ Dirty things ♪ ♪ Too much corruption and crime in the streets ♪ ♪ Stand the alarm of the law ♪ ♪ Put a few more in the ground ♪ ♪ I'm all of the maker and he'll settle on down ♪ ♪ You can bet that he'll settle down ♪ ♪ 'Cause justice is one thing you should always find ♪ ♪ You gotta settle up your balls ♪ ♪ You gotta draw a hard line ♪ ♪ When the gun smoke settles ♪ ♪ We'll send a victory to ♪ ♪ The moon and will all be back at the local school ♪ ♪ We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces ♪ ♪ Singing whiskey for my man ♪ ♪ Before my horses ♪ ♪ Now ♪ ♪ Whiskey for my man ♪ ♪ Before my horses ♪ (upbeat music) (upbeat music) ♪ You know justice is one thing you should always find ♪ ♪ You gotta settle up your balls ♪ ♪ You gotta draw a hard line ♪ ♪ When the gun smoke settles ♪ ♪ We'll send a victory to ♪ ♪ And will all be back at the local school ♪ ♪ We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces ♪ ♪ Singing whiskey for my man ♪ ♪ Before my horses ♪ ♪ Singing whiskey for my man ♪ ♪ Before my horses ♪ (upbeat music) All right, whiskey for my man, beer for my horses. Who was that sweet curbs? Toby Keith and Molly Nelson. You win. Ding, ding, ding, obviously. (bell dings) All right, so that was Peter Biddigan from Red Wides and Brews. Thank you my friend for hanging out with us. Now we've got our good friend Cassie back with us. How are you Cassie? I'm good, I'm back again. You just can't get rid of me. You got drinks, you good on the beverages? I am having an aperol spritz to hate. An aperol spritz. Same, they're very good. An aperol spritz. Y'all are drinking girl drinks? We are. Aperol. Actually, aperol spritz. In Europe, it's not even a girl drink, you know. Having just come back from Italy. It's just a summer refreshing drink. What happened to the whiskey? Yeah, it's coming, it's coming. (both laugh) All right, so let me know when you need some whiskey. I got it right here, speaking of that, I need some more whiskey. Got your ice. I need some more stuff. Clink, clink. I am, oh yeah, it's gonna be good stuff. All right, so I want to give a shout out real quick to one of our fans that's a listener to our show. His name's Mark Wilson. And he requested some boot stomping songs. Boot stomping. Boot stomping, what does that mean? It sounds like fun. I like the way he phrased that. Yeah, because if you read the comment, he says, I heard, who do you say? Trace Atkins. Trace Atkins, right? And he's like, I love that music. Play more of it. Play more of that. (both laugh) Just sounds like a lot of fun, if you ask me. Boot stomping. Boot stomping songs, like, have you guys ever been a line dancing before? Sweet curbs, have you ever been a line dancing? Oh. Have you ever tried that? Yes, that's why I don't go over and get some. (both laugh) So you have tried it. (both laugh) Yeah, do you guys ever see that meme of, I love Lucy and she's dancing with the other dancers and they're all going one way and she's one the other and they're going four and she's going back? Yeah, that's me too. That's me, so that's why I don't do it. I do pretty good when the instructor is teaching and they're like, okay, these are the counts, but once they go full speed and put the song on, I'm going to sit down. Yeah, where about you Cassie? You ever been do line dancing or anything like that? I used to do it a lot more these days. No, I don't do not know anything they're doing out there anymore. I can't remember what the, like you said, I can't remember where to go forward backwards. Even in our own living room. I'm staring at every other people. Travis and I put on, we tried to learn Alan Jackson, good time, and we were in our own living room and we're like, this is not working out. Like we can't do this. We're running into each other. Yeah, but it was like a step-by-step, instructional video of like the line dance to this song and we were like, no. Yeah, well, you know, to our defense, to our defense. What song was that? Nine Beards D. Good times by Alan Jackson? Yeah, good times. They did like this whole, like, I don't know, what was it like, like a mile long line dance or something like that? Oh my gosh. Oh yeah, but they broke it down. Yeah, this song. Yeah, this one. They did like a whole mile long line dance, like all bunch of people. Did you guys ever see that? That was the music video. We actually watched like the instructional, how to do the line dance. Oh yeah, you and I did. And we failed miserably. No, see, I can do the electric slide all day. It's a couple of great minds at a dip, right? See, I can't even do that. You give me the macarena. Oh yeah, I can do that one all day long. I got that one. I might even know the Cupid Shuffle. No, but the country ones, they've evolved so much from where we started with things like the Macarena and the electric slides. The electric slide, that was like the first line dance ever. It's electric. Yeah, it's electric. It's electric. It's electric to die. Boogie Boogie. Yeah, yeah. No, they have line dancing. They have lessons over there at the barn, right? Yeah, every Thursday you only have teachers line dancing lessons. Oh yeah? Yeah. And she's really good. She travels with the dance group. They go all over the country and dance at music festivals. Oh yeah? She's a really good line dancer, yeah. And they do like big old showcases of just line dancing. Yeah, so she's part of a troupe that goes to things like stagecoach, ask things, but all over the country. Oh yeah. And so she goes out with this dance group and they go dance in the different stages in the halls. It's pretty amazing. She actually choreographed. Yeah. A line dance for... Oh, Astro. For Astro's. Yeah. Rodeo Queen song. Yeah, it's in the music video. It's super cool. Very cool. But yeah, she does that every Thursday at the barn. That's what we need to do. We need to teach the town the line dance to Astro's song. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, we'll have to get Alita do a how-to video. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that'll be our punishment. Maybe get her out. Maybe get her out. Watch in the four of us try to figure it out. Maybe Alita should be a guest. Oh yeah, that would be fun. I do love this song. Oh, I love this song. This is Astro. Yeah. That's killer. Rodeo Queen. Very cool. Hell yeah. Yeah, I can do the chicken dance. The chicken dance? Yeah. It's true. You know the wedding. Oh, yeah. And the erkle. I don't want to be a chicken. I don't want to be a dexo shake here. That's my skill set you are. It does the erkle quite well. Yes. There are many stories around the erkle. Or the Carlton. What's the unusual thing you love by anyone? What's the one from Seinfeld, Elaine? The Elaine Days? Oh, but that's just she's like. Yeah, she's like kicking like. She just goes wild. Heavens, pasms. I can do that. I can do that. That Pee Wee Herman dance. Yes. Yeah. Dada, dada, dada, dada. I think that's the one that I actually- There it is. Yes. There's some videos around this. Okay, I can't hear this song without thinking about that. Pee Wee Herman. Pee Wee Herman. Pee Wee Herman. Alright, that's a generational thing. Because you know what I think of when I hear this song? The scene in the sandlot when they all do chew, when they get on that big spinning thing. Oh, really? And they just throw up on everyone. Oh, man. Cassie has a story. Am I telling this story? Why not? What the hell? Oh, my goodness. I lost my dignity. I lost all I lost. There is video evidence, though. I lost your- I've been drinking way too much. I think you can tell it is. I think I lost all my- It involves me at the end, but I'm not sure I'm going to tell that part. I think I lost all my dignity about episode two. So, yeah. Oh, no, if you're going to tell a story, you're going to tell the whole story. Just tell the story, Cassie. I got to hear that. Okay, so yeah, we had been out for the day and we're coming back and a friend of ours had horses over here. At the Western Center, well, she had motion-activated cameras and we were aware of this. And we'd had some cocktails out that evening, so we decided to stop by and activate her motion-active cameras. And this one strips down to his chonies and does the Erkel dance to trigger her cameras. This is all caught on Erkel dance. I only know that I do that. Steve Erkel. It's- I call it the Erkel dance. It might be the Pee-Wee Herman dance. It's more the Pee-Wee Herman dance, yeah. So he's doing this in nothing but his skivvies. I am just dying. At like 10 o'clock at night in these horse stables, knowing that her phone just went off, right? Because she's one of those hyper- She's now watching. She's like watching, she's watching, yes. Yeah, her phone goes off. Somebody's in her horse stall and she picks up her phone. And there's me in my underwear doing the Erkel dance. Mima, I didn't believe he was actually going to do what he said. He was going to do? Okay, I should know better by this point in time. Mima. I am just losing it. I'm standing in the corner of the hay barn and I full-on wet myself. Full-on in the background of this video. Then there's Cassie. Just peeing her pants in the corner. I can't stand up. This all finishes. I had to sit on a hay bag. In the car on the way home. But yeah, this video evidence is out there somewhere. Did she ever come out and say anything? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. She showed us the video. She was texting us within minutes. Oh yeah, it's out there somewhere. Yes. There's a video of us dancing at the barn. For Rob's birthday, we had done a pub crawl. And Rob and Wendy had a couple that lived on their property. I don't know if they still live there. Her name was Kim and she loved Tequila. So she bought everyone around at Tequila shots. And that's... And I always tell him like, "Oh, let's go dance, baby." And he's like, "No, no, no." So I know he's on a good one. If he's like, "Let's go dance." Well, give me Tequila. So there's a video. We're in between the tables. And it's the best video, because he's just laughing hysterically as we're dancing. And there's no rhyme or reason or steps. We're just flinging and spinning. We were totally off beat and everything. And now we know. Give him Tequila. Yeah, if you want me to dance, give me some Tequila in all dance. I think I can speak for both of us. We would never order Tequila from the bar ourselves. But if someone's walking around with free shots, we might have to say no. You can't decline that. That would be rude. Sometimes people will be like, "Hey, we're all doing shots at Tequila." And they already got him. I'm going to be like, "I'm not going to turn it down." Right. I'm not a Tequila guy. I'm a whiskey guy. But, you know... It kind of falls into your rule of... I can't say no. It's very... I fall into whatever, you know? So... But give me Tequila and... I'll dance very well. And in my opinion... I think there's actually a song about that. About how Tequila... We were talking about that a little bit earlier. It's called... One Round with Horsey Cuervo. One Round of... Is it that... Who's that? One Round of Horsey Cuervo. Yes. That's a... Some stranger asked me to dance after two rounds. I caught my toe tapping long with me. Really? Yeah. The singer couldn't carry a tune in a bucket until he started listening to Tequila. Horsey, yeah. Drinkin' Tequila. Sorry. Damn it. Just whiskey's so good. Although Tequila can't talk to, you know. The more you drink, the more it talks. There it is. There it is. There it is. Tracy Bird. Tracy Bird. Ah, let's listen. One Round of Horsey Cuervo. I caught my boots tapping long with me. And I did two rounds in Horsey Cuervo. Yeah. I won't... We'll have to play the whole song in this entirety. That was fun. Oh yeah, we'll have to. I wouldn't... That didn't do a justice. That's a boot stop and song. That's a boot stop and song. I know it's been an absolute fix with the boots. So yeah, we're fitting into the boot stop and song for our big fan. Mark Wilson. All right, Mark. Here you go. ♪ I walked in, the band just started. The singer couldn't carry a tune in a bubble. Watch all the mission to drown her memory. But I thought no way. And all this ruckus, but I have to. One Round with Horsey Cuervo. I caught my boots tapping long with me. And I did two rounds in Horsey Cuervo. That man was sounding pretty darn good at me. And some stranger asked me to dance. And I revealed to her my two lefties. 'Cause they don't get me wrong. I'm glad you asked, but tonight's about me. And an old memory that I threw three rounds in Horsey Cuervo. While it lead me out on the floor. And I do four rounds in Horsey Cuervo. I was showing off the moves never seen before. ♪ Round five, around six. I forgot what I came to forgive. And round seven was eight. I bought a round for the whole day's place. And after nine rounds in Horsey Cuervo, they were counting me out. And I was about to give in. And then after 10 rounds with Horsey Cuervo. I lost count and started counting again. One Round with Horsey Cuervo. I went two rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Three rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Oh, give me that last round. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. Yeah, six rounds with Horsey Cuervo. I got a dog named Whalen. I got a driveway that needs paving. I got a boat with a two stroke. A couple guaranteed to make you laugh jokes. I got friends in low places. Yeah, life is what you're making. I might not end up in the hall if I aim with a star on a sidewalk with my name. Or a statue in my hometown when I'm gone. Nobody gonna name their babies after me. I might not go down in history. But I'll go down to the honkage home. Got a girl named Sheila. She goes bad shit. I want tequila. Got a job that gets the job done. I got a loan at the bank. It's a big one. The only place you might see my name is on a wall. For a good time call, I'm a local legend on a Friday night. Then a pap's blue ribbon in the online. I might not end up in the hall if I aim with a star on a sidewalk with my name. Or a statue in my hometown when I'm gone. Nobody gonna name their babies after me. I might not go down in history. But I'll go down to the honkage home. I go down to the honky talk, I go down. To the honky talk, I go down. I go down to the honky talk. I go down to the honky talk, I go down. To the honky talk, I go down. I go down to the honky talk. Let's get home. I might not end up in the hall if I aim with a star on a sidewalk. With my name or a statue in my hometown when I'm gone. Nobody gonna name their babies after me. I might not go down in history. But I'll go down to the honky talk. I go down to the honky talk, I go down. To the honky talk, I go down. I go down to the honky talk. I go down to the honky talk, I go down. To the honky talk, I go down. I go down to the honky talk. This is for all you sophisticated ladies out there. [Music] As she grew up in the city and a little subdivision. Her daddy wore a tie. Mama never tried to chicken. Ballet straight A's most likely to succeed. They bought her a car after graduation sent her down south for some higher education. Put her on a fast track to a law degree. Now she's coming home to visit holding the hand of a wild-eyed boy with a farmer's tie. She's riding in the middle of his big up truck. Flaring trolley, Daniel's yelling, "Turn it up." They raised her up a lady, but there's one thing they couldn't avoid. Ladies look on three points. Oh, it's true. Yeah, you know mamas and daddies won't bear to fold their daughters. Hope they'll settle down with a doctor or a lawyer and their uptown ball. Gown, hand me down, royal tea. They never understand why their princess balls for some camouflage, which is at a southern boy drive. Oh, why she's riding in the middle of a big up truck. Flaring trolley, Daniel's yelling, "Turn it up." They raised her up a lady, but there's one thing they couldn't avoid. Ladies look on three points. Oh, it's true. You can train 'em. You can try to teach 'em right from wrong, but it's still gonna turn 'em all. They're rattling in the middle of a big up truck. Flaring winter, skinner, yelling, You can raise her up a lady, but there's one thing you just can't avoid. Ladies look on three points. They love us country balls as you. Now they can't stand. It's that country's buying yards. Yeah. Sing the nanah. We're back. I like the nanah, he says. I like the nanah. Oh, man. What a great song. Ladies love country boys. Sweet curbs, is that true? I mean, I love country boys. I can't speak for all. You don't love country boys. You love country men like myself. That's not what you asked me. You asked a direct question. She gave you a direct answer. All right. Do you love a country man? I love one. There we go. Thank you. Cilantro to that. Let me do cilantro to that also. Wait, can I say which one? Oh, what? I'm just kidding. Oh, wait. Now the birds are flying around the studio again. Birds are flying around the studio again. Oh, man, that's how it reminds me of a drinking song. Sweet curbs. Yes, sir. What's the drink? What's the drink? What's the drunkest you've ever been? And what was the drink that you were drinking? Do you remember? Or do you? You probably don't remember, but the drunkest you've ever been? Or Cassie, if you can think of-- Well-- What's the drunkest you've ever been? The drunkest I've ever been. We were drinking in New York. We had gone on vacation. My best friend and I went to visit her family. And we were drinking Alabama slammers. We made them in our hotel room. It's like-- That's Alabama slammers. Yes, it's like slogan, southern comfort, something else. Lots of liquor. Sounds like very-- Some good juice. Somma, straight. We were drinking those. And to this day, my best friend won't drink. Oh, I just said the name of it. What is it called? Southern comfort. Southern comfort. Southern comfort. I was like, so cold. So cold. And on that same trip, we had gone to dinner. Her aunt did PR for these fancy restaurants in New York. And so we went to dinner, and we were drinking candy apple martinis, which just tastes like sweet apples. Wait, wait, candy apple martini. That would be-- Yes, and each one came with-- Remember those caramel apple lollipops? Apple, apple puckers. Yes, that was like the olive in the martini. Were they the cinnamon ones? They were just caramel ones. Yeah, caramel. But we were totally fine until we stood up to go home, and then we were like, uh-oh. And I don't think we got out of bed until probably two o'clock the next day. When you stand up, that's where you go. I don't drink anything. Oh, my. Apple or sweet like that to this day? Apple, like a Washington apple. So that's apple puckers and crown. What's the drunkest you've ever been, and what won't you drink anymore? Me? Yeah. Yeah. What won't he drink? It was probably really nothing off the table. No. There's not a table I would drink. Like the drunkest I've ever been was actually an item. Even real. I can't even. Was off of goldschlager. Oh, no. Have you ever had that? I have. Yeah. With the gold flakes in it. Yeah. We used to drink. We called it a starry night, and it was goldschlager and Jaegermeister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Starry night. Goldschlager. That sounds awful. Jaeger. It is awful. But when you're eating- Wait, it was here. You're ameister. You're ameister and you drink whatever. Wasn't it also Red Bull or something? Or like some kind of an energy drink? Ours didn't have Red Bull, and it was just goldschlager. I can't even say the word. Goldschlager and Jaegermeister. Oh, god. That's a tongue twister. What about you, Cassie? What's the drunkest you've ever been? There's so many. No, actually, here's another question. What would be the drink when you woke up the next day and you're like, I'm never drinking again? There are definitely two. There's two? There's two. You have two? Yeah. Was there two different incidences? Well, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. Only twice, I'm sure. Only twice? No. [LAUGHTER] All right, that's it. No, B-52s. So it was a long time before I could touch. What is that? Anything. Kalua and Bailey's. Kalua and Cream. Like, yeah. That sounds like a morning drink. I think I drank an entire pitcher when I was like 18. Yeah. Didn't touch anything that resembled either of those for many, many years. So it's Kalua and Bailey's? Uh-huh. And for Cream. Was that a morning drink? Or was it like a-- You know, you're 18. Oh, you're 18. Drink whatever's provided. And I probably was doing Jaeger Bombs with that. Like, or the Dr. Pepper shots? Is that what they called it? Where you drank the Jaeger and the beer? Oh, I never did that. I mean, Jaeger Bombs. For me, Jaeger Bombs were Jaeger and a thing of Red Bull. Yeah, and Jaeger and the Jaeger Bombs. Because it tastes like Dr. Pepper on the aftertaste. Okay. So I think I was mixing all of that. But the thing that came back to haunt me was the-- [LAUGHTER] It'd be 50 taste. You know, it's a really good shot. And I never have gotten drunk on them, but it's really good. And it sounds super gross. It's-- Irish car bomb? No, it's called a lunchbox shot. And it's like, coarse light, Bud Light, some kind of light beer with a little bit of orange juice. And you drop a shot of Amaretto in it. OK. Drink it. Have you ever had an Irish car bomb? I have. It's like Guinness and Bailey's, right? Here's a funny story about Guinness. So cans of Guinness, when you open it, it has the little ball in it. The nitrous pack. I didn't know that. I called James, who's my best friend's husband. Because we were drinking these. And then we got to the bottom, and I could hear this. And I was like, nobody drink anything else. There's something in the can, yeah. There's a finger in there. Well, don't you remember? Like, this was like 20, 30 years ago. Remember, they found the needles in the Pepsi cans? And I was like, the whole big scandal. Well, I could tell it wasn't a needle, but there was something in my can. I could hear it. So I called James, and I'm like, dude, you drink Guinness all the time. Do you ever have these-- is there anything in your drink? And he's like, yeah, you idiot. It's the nitrous ball. It makes it like it's off the tap. And I was like, oh, OK. That makes it off. You can drink now, guys. Sorry. We're saying-- Creamy, creamy, heavy head, yeah. But it scared me. I was like, nobody drink anything. Well, there's something in here. I was like, but we won't. That's all we have. Do you want to die? Let me figure out what's going on first. Yeah. So the drink that would make me think that I'd never wanted to drink again was Goldschlager. Yeah. OK. You remember the big old Goldschlager bottles? Yep. They had the little finger hole for it. Yeah, little finger hole, little gold flakes around in it. It says that the one that has a little gold flakes in it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cinnamon. It tastes like Fireball. Yeah. I'm not even into that shit. But I was pretty hammered one time at a party in Pacific Beach. Hey, at least remember where you were. I think it was in Pacific Beach. But anyway, I was walking around the party with my finger in that hole of the bottle. It was the big bottle, right? Like a handle? Right around with your finger. And man, I was just going to town on that bottle. And the next day-- oh, my God. Well, I woke up in jail. And then-- Oh. Oh, shit. [LAUGHTER] The first bit you didn't know. Well, no, I woke up in jail. And I was like, where am I? What's going on? What is this? And then I ended up getting out of jail. They-- it was in San Diego. Are you going to tell us why you went to jail drinking Goldschlager? Are we just going to go into jail? I don't remember, man. No one filled in the gaps for you? No. Was it like public chunkiness? And they just put you in the junk tank? Honestly, I don't know. So to this day, you still don't know why you went there? I don't know why I went to jail. I got out. But they let you go. But they let you go. What did the police tell you? All I remember being in jail is getting out. And I even asked the guy. I'm like, I'm like, what are-- what did I do? Like, what happened? They're like, you don't remember? And I'm like, oh, fuck, what did I do? They were like, they were just messing with me. So they walked me out. They took my shoes away. And I had like those Jesus sandals on, you know? Jailshoes. And they put me out in downtown San Diego. And I'm like, how do-- Now what? I got to go home. Like, here you go. They gave me a token. Here's a bus ticket. And I'm like, what? I've never done the bus. I don't know how to take a bus home. I don't even know how this bus thing works. Like, what are these numbers? Anyway, I ended up walking from downtown San Diego to my friend's house. He lived in normal heights. I ended up walking, getting back to the-- got to his house, and he wasn't even there. But I just like, I'd knocked on the door and notice there. He's like, oh my god. I got to get in. Was this before cell phones? Yeah. Yeah, this was-- Wait, I didn't get cell phone or no. They didn't even give you a dime for the pay phone or nothing. No, nothing like-- What? No, they did, actually, they gave me a dime. But I was still kind of drunk when I got out of jail. Because I didn't know his number. No. So I walked-- I was drunk. So I walked over-- The day mama. And I literally walked from downtown San Diego to normal heights. And I don't know how long that was. But I was kind of still drunk and kind of stumbling the whole way. I get to this house. I'm not going to notice there. It's like the middle of the day. So I was like, screw it. I opened the door, got in there. And I crashed on the couch. And I was kind of like facing into the couch. And he came home. And he thought that there was some homeless dude. [LAUGHTER] He thought there was some homeless dude walked in and laid out his couch. So all I remember was he comes up to me. He's like-- he's got his hand out far. He's like, hey, man. He's like tapping me. Hey, man. Hey. And I turned around. He's like, whoa, what are you doing, bro? I just got out of the room in your house. I had the craziest night last night, dude. I had to crash on your couch. He's like, oh, dude, it's all good. What the fuck happened? I don't know. I didn't even know, dude. I got-- I was drinking gold slaughter that I was-- Your story's so much better than mine. So much better. Do you have a story, Eric? Have you ever been to jail, Eric? I have never been to jail. Never been to jail? No, never been to jail. I've never been to jail. Neither have I. The drunkest I've ever been was at Nicaragua. And I was so drunk. I don't even remember what I was drinking. My wife would have to fill you in because-- We should phone the kids and make it a-- I was very drunk in Italy with a group of people. And we had gone to town. It was about two miles from the villa we were staying at. And we walked to town because we were sober when we walked. But then we had a grand old time. And so we're like, we're going to take a cab home. But we're in Italy. And none of us spoke Italian. So the cab driver is trying to be like, where are you? And we're on the corner of-- And we're trying to tell him. We're trying to tell him the address of our-- It was rough. We ended up walking back because we-- You're like, I can't communicate. What year was that? 2016. So nowadays, what they have on your-- Before the apps, yeah. No, they probably have that. But I think at some point, your brain shuts off and you have no cognitive capabilities. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, for that, right. And there was like five or six of us. And none of us could figure out how to communicate with the cab driver. Because in Italy, it was like a phone service. Like, it wasn't like, now where you just have Uber and someone shows up, you put it in your file. And it still is a lot of the time. And so they're asking us where we are. And we're trying to tell them. But again, we don't speak Italian. And so it was a miscommunication. I'm standing between this lady and that lady. That's literally what we said. We're on the corner. There's a street lamp. There's a street lamp. There's an Italian restaurant. Like, while they're like, you're in Italy. There's lots of Italian restaurants. So there's an Italian restaurant right here in Italy. And a street lamp. You're going to be like here in United States. Well, there's a McDonald's right here. It says, "Transoria." Yeah. I'm by a Starbucks and a 76 station. Well, that doesn't really narrow it down. And there's an in and out. So you're close to the freeway. Oh, God. It's freeway. Oh, man. Dude, let's listen to some music we've been talking about. [MUSIC PLAYING] You were the first thing that I thought of when I thought I drank you off my mind. And I can lost in the liquor. You're the only one I've had. If I paid the things I ought to, I still would not be mine. So I keep a tight grip on the bottle, getting loose, and killing time. This killing time, this killing me. Drinking myself blind, thinking I won't sleep. Night if I cross that line, and they bury me. Well, I just might find out if I'm killing time for eternity. I don't know nothing about tomorrow. I've been lost yesterday. 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