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145. Different Types of Breaks & How to Plan a Sabbatical

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02 Aug 2024
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Ever thought about taking a break from business yourself? Or maybe you didn't even realize it was a possibility? In this episode I am breaking down the three types of breaks you can take in your business, and the business and personal prep needed to make each type work. I'm giving you a framework that you can take and apply to your own situation to make sure that your time away is exactly what you need, and that the business is ready for you when you come back.     In this episode, we cover…
  • Three types of breaks: extended breaks, maternity leave, and sabbaticals
  • How to determine what kind of break you want or need
  • Six steps to prepping your business for a break
  • What personal prep and planning you need to consider
  Quotes "The hardest part is actually deciding to take the break."   "No matter what your purpose is for taking a break, everyone within that break needs space. And space is probably uncomfortable for a lot of us, so don't get stuck in filling it with a lot of things, even if it's really uncomfortable."   Links & Resources Mentioned in this Episode Laptop Lifestyle Co Links: Website Instagram Tik Tok YouTube Channel
So up until now, in this kind of sabbatical series of podcast episodes, we've talked a lot about my journey, my experiences, answering your questions, like my story, of course, on sabbatical. So this episode is a little bit different because the more I got into things and really thought about how I could be as helpful as possible, I think a lot of people want to know how they might be able to do this for themselves and what that might look like, whether you resonate with my story or maybe you really don't resonate with my story. I think a lot of people could really benefit from this. And so I have kind of developed a way to break this down and want to share with you the three different kinds of quote unquote breaks or sabbaticals that you can take or commonly take, as well as some step-by-step instructions as far as how you would be able to figure out what kind of break you need and how to plan it. Hello hello and welcome to The Made for More Podcasts. I'm your host Amanda Colby, a seven figure entrepreneur and founder of my company Laptop Lifestyle Co. This podcast is full of raw perspective challenging conversations about the whole picture of entrepreneurship. You didn't start a business just to learn Instagram hacks and tech tips. You started a business to build a life full of freedom and limitless potential because you knew in your gut you were made for more. I believe you can do anything you put your mind to. I believe your success is inevitable and I want you to learn how to tap into your own power to achieve the unthinkable in your life and business. On the podcast every week we want to help you unlock and craft your made for more life through actionable business strategies, powerful mindset insights and raw honest conversations that really pull back the curtain on entrepreneurship both from myself and amazing industry leading experts. You are a powerhouse and it's time we stop holding ourselves back, unlock our potential and fearlessly chase after our desires. This Friends is The Made for More Podcasts. So as usual a quick note before we get into the episode, if you are just tuning in, this podcast is a part of the kind of mini podcast series that is back-to-back episodes all about my sabbatical. So my own journey, my own stories, my own takeaways, tips, you know really diving in in some of these episodes to a lot of the questions and stuff that you guys wanted to know. This series will only last for a few more episodes and then we are rebranding the podcast relaunching and getting into all of the normal/new good stuff. So if you're not interested, wait a week or two and if you are really enjoying these episodes, let me know. I would love to have a conversation with you or just hear from you and enjoy this next one because this one's a little bit different than the others and it's going to be pretty straightforward and a lot more actionable. So the first thing I'm going to just jump right into is the different kinds of breaks because the more I kept sharing about my sabbatical, the more I realized just kind of how unique for lack of a better word it was just because as I've said a couple of times now I have kind of been clumping together my really intense healing journey that happened to coincide with a sabbatical but doesn't inherently define what a probably more normal sabbatical is. I don't know if there's such thing as a normal sabbatical but I think you guys get the gist of what I'm saying. And so I also took quite a lot of time off, right? Like a lot of my stuff was very extreme. I took a full seven months off, I closed down my entire seven figure business, I'm starting an entirely new business, kind of like all these extreme examples. And I realized as I was sharing that that a it is very helpful just to be open and honest and share all this stuff. But at the same time, I don't want you to think that that is what this looks like or has to look like or that things have to be that extreme in whatever fashion because I think most people won't experience things in the way that I did. And I also want this to become a bit more normalized. And I've said this from the beginning, I couldn't find information about this anywhere. I didn't even know sabbatical was a thing like 10 months ago. And I think the traditional definition of sabbatical has somewhat changed, especially as an entrepreneur and business owner, you have this opportunity. But I don't think any of us knew this was a freaking option until someone did it, right? So let's get in. I have really thought everything in this episode through to break things down in a really tangible way. So this may be an episode where you want to take some notes. So the three types of breaks that I have categorized for us. The first one is an extended break. And I'm going to give a quick description of what differentiates these three. The first one is an extended break. The second one is a maternity leave. And the third one is a sabbatical. And for anyone immediately hearing maternity leave, I have helped a number of clients prep plan for and go through maternity leaves and talk to a lot of friends and peers. And despite us having different stories, there's so many similarities with the prep and just the identity shifts and all the stuff that I've kind of gone through in my sabbatical that happened on maternity leave. So let's get into that. And then I have a little like bonus type of break that doesn't count, but I'll say it at the end. So the first break is an extended break. And this is typically going to be categorized by about a one to two month timeline. And that's the first thing I'll say with all the others, each one gets progressively longer. But just as a note, these are just some guidelines and what I see as typical or could become typical. At the end of the day, you do what you want. You do the shit how you want. Like there's no like rules on how this has to look, right? But with an extended break, this is almost more of a pause on a lot of stuff, most likely than the other two breaks of a maternity leave in a sabbatical, because with those other breaks, with them being longer and potentially for different reasons, you often are going to have to make either like bigger preparations or bigger changes or just shut more things down. Whereas when you're taking a one to two month break, even if you're not five, six years into business, you can make a lot of temporary adjustments to contracts to clients you can batch marketing, not that you have to do any of those things, but it's a lot easier to bridge the gap, right? So what I envision this being used as, and this one really I think is what a lot of you will be interested in that we've almost never really considered before as an option for us, but it is. I think an extended break could be used as a way to potentially revamp or pivot or adjust your current business in a bit more of a intensive form. You can absolutely revamp and pivot without taking a break, right? With just kind of lowering things down and still taking clients, but maybe a little less clients, you know, things like that. So this would almost be a little bit more extreme example of that. But I've even seen people take one, two, even three months off in terms of almost everything in their current business in order to start a new business. So maybe you take an extended break to do an additional business, but you obviously need that capacity. So you've kind of got to like strip a lot of things away in some manner. And of course, kind of plan for that, especially if you have ongoing offers and things like that. And so this period is going to be defined no matter what it is that you're doing with that time by in some capacity, lowering your responsibilities and lowering things, if not completely pausing almost all things in order to spend time, either for yourself or rebuilding building something new, you could absolutely also take a one to two month break for yourself and just like an extended vacation, go home with family for the summer, take one to two months off. Maybe it is in the summer to be with your kids and maybe you batch some marketing, maybe you've got like one or two clients in the background. And that's about it, right? But I want you to like start to realize this is an option for you and such a gift in you being in charge and running your online business. And yes, all of these breaks, I can almost guarantee you you will have an income dip, not everyone. But I think that's the misconception is we're like scared to take the breaks until we scale the business and have all these fancy things in place to like keep the revenue. And that's just almost never the case. So instead, I want you to know that it is an option to take a one to two month break. The reason that the main purpose of this kind of extended break is not in my view and experience of talking to people often like for yourself, your physical or mental health is because normally you need longer, but you absolutely could do that as well. So second type of break, I'm going to say after this will help you determine the length of the break you need and what kind of break and how to structure it. I've got like a framework for that. So second type of break is a maternity leave and most of my friends and stuff that take a maternity leave take two to four months, some take a little bit longer. You can of course take as long as you possibly want, but I'm going to categorize this as around two to four plus months. This is typically longer than an extended break, but shorter than a sabbatical in terms of how we're categorizing things. And the reason this is its own category even further more because of course you could have an extended sabbatical break, whatever you want to call it for four months. And you know, like these are just categories to help you put some things in buckets, right? But the reason this is its own type of break is because it in its core is like different than both of the others. Obviously because you're having a baby, but also because of the way it's typically planned and structured in a unique way due to the purpose being that you are literally giving birth, right? So the two big ways I see it being different is number one, you are not always taking a break when it's a maternity leave because the business or your life is bad. You're not always taking this maternity leave because you're burned out, etc. And therefore you can often continue a lot of the parts of your business and your momentum and you don't always need to like reinvent anything per say during this period where with some of the other breaks, that might be a lot more of an influential factor. That's not to say that during a maternity leave, you might not also realize you were burned out or want to reinvent your business. I'm just saying in its core purpose and intention, right? The second reason this is different is that because a maternity leave quite literally involves giving birth or adopting and bringing a child into your home, taking care of these babies, you inherently have more of a direction and a structure than either or any of the other types of breaks just because of that, right? So you naturally, and even if it's not natural, going to have to consider those factors and the purpose of like recovering from birth and caring for your new baby and just spending time for the new baby. A lot of new moms that of my friends that I talk to, they keep marketing or will batch marketing. They will keep some clients in some capacity like after the first or second month. Some of them are like, whoa, I wish I took longer and some of them like start to get a little bit bored. There's obviously so many factors, your partner, maybe what child is, each person is different. But anyways, that's just going to give you more direction and structure and focus and intentionality behind the way you're doing things and why you're doing things. So third type of break is a sabbatical. And this is typically three to 12 months. So almost always more than three months. A lot of people would categorize a sabbatical oftentimes as a whole year off. But I'm categorizing this three to 12 months could be more, but it's essentially a longer break that is not due to maternity leave. So the purpose of this is not because you had a kid. And it's obviously not just an extended break, because this is a pretty hefty chunk of time that you're taking off. And so you're going to have to treat things the way you prep and handle things completely differently than just like that extended break for one to two months, right? Now what I see most often kind of as a defining factor of these longer breaks and sabbaticals is that they are often taken because of the purpose of a like personal life manner or mental or physical health issues, maybe burnout, maybe health issues, maybe grief, those sorts of things. And secondly, that categorizes this, you may not necessarily need or want a sabbatical because something super bad happened, but rather because you want to take a break from working more than just for a month or two, and maybe travel, maybe explore new interests and hobbies, whatever it is, but without the pressure and typical responsibilities of your work and business, right? You could obviously just do an extended break for one or two months and go travel for that time period, but at its core by like definition, in terms of a lot of like teachers, professors, or scientists, or whatever, taking a sabbatical, like after I think seven years of working, a lot of them define that as you get a year off to go travel, explore new interests and things within your field. I think though that you could make that look however you want and it doesn't always have to be because you were forced to in a bad thing, like my situation, right? Now the fourth like bonus type of break I'm gonna mention is what I'm gonna call like burning it all down. And it's really not a break, which is why I'm calling it a bonus because I would categorize this as an unknown indefinite period of time versus a sabbatical has a clear intention of coming back to things, even if they're gonna be different, right? So it's often I guess somewhat similarities as a sabbatical in terms of why you might be taking it or whatever, but the difference is it's for an indefinite amount of time with no original plan to return and with the original intent to kind of burn everything down or completely shut down the business. Whereas I do find with a sabbatical and sometimes even a maternity leave, you burn things down in a sense or kind of do really big pivots or whatnot. But obviously in all of those breaks, you're not actually closing everything down. I mean like everything, right? So I would categorize this as like you are taking in a different break, things aren't working, whatever it is, and or you may decide, hey, I might come back to entrepreneurship one day, but like for now, it's not it. And maybe I need to get a nine to five or another income source. And you know, who knows, maybe I'll regain inspiration or the desire to do this again in the future. So that's just a little side note. So as an example, so that you can take these principles and see what it looked like for me, for me, I knew three things. I knew I needed a decently long break. I knew that my purpose was because of extreme personal issues and mental and health manners. And I knew that I planned on coming back. So you can see pretty clearly just by those three very simple qualifications, why mine fit in the category of sabbatical ended up being seven months. So the next step, this is section two, and then we have section three. And that's it for the episode. This whole episode is my framework. Okay, I didn't get this from anywhere. If you're looking for it elsewhere. So second part here is the four defining elements that will help you determine how to craft your specific break. And if you're not sure immediately of which type of those three breaks above you want, you know, this will help you figure that out. But these are more helpful to then take, Hey, okay, I think I want an extended break or Hey, okay, I think I want a sabbatical. But what exactly does mine look like or need to be structured as? Okay, so the four defining elements are your intention and purpose, your amount of offness, which I will explain. Number three, the structure and number four, the duration, and they go in this order on purpose. This is the order of what you need to answer the questions, because each question will help determine the next one, right? So the first one intention or purpose, what's your reason behind taking this break? What do you need from this break? And how do you maybe need to set certain things up to match that, right? Like immediately for me, I knew my purpose was to heal, to really dive into this healing journey. It was, you know, mental and physical health issues in my personal life exploding. So that was my purpose. Second factor amount of offness. So what I mean by this is like, how much do you need to shut down versus can keep some things going? And just from you as a human, like how off do you need to be? So for example, for me, I need it to be 100% off. I needed no responsibilities, no clients of any kind, no marketing, no team check-ins, like literally nothing. Again, I was in a very extreme situation, but also I think there's something really nice in such a hardcore black and white element. But the reason this is important to determine is because your amount of offness that you need will influence the structure, potentially the duration and more so when we get into the third step in terms of how you actually figure out like the offers and the clients and the team and what stays going and what doesn't, right? So that you can make sure you meet that need and the way that you need it met. I know a lot of people that have done like maternity leaves, of course, extended breaks, but maybe even something more like a sabbatical who batched marketing or who still kept someone on one clients or who had just like one ongoing program or membership in the background and just doing that, you know, for a few hours a week, that was fine with them. So there's no right or wrong way to do it, but you do need to consider this factor. Third defining element is structure. So this question is essentially asking yourself, like, how do I need to structure my business? How do I need to structure my team, my clients, and maybe current contracts? How do I need to structure my involvement? And how also do I need to structure my time off, like not related to the business, which I will talk more about in the next section. Fourth factor is duration. And you should answer this last because a lot of people will answer this first and say, okay, I need a break. Okay, finally, you made the decision. I think I need three months. And it's like, why did we pick three months? What about three months made you think that was the right amount of time, right? Like, we need to consider and be honest with ourselves, which I was not at first, what is the purpose? What are you trying to get out of this? What are you trying to accomplish? How much offness do you need, right? Like, maybe how much structure do you even have in place in your business or team to support you while you're away? You know, I don't know any of these factors, but it can be short, it can be long. But what I will tell you for a tip, 100% of people that I have ever talked to that have taken a specifically more so a maternity leave or sabbatical have needed more time than they thought they did. So you do with that information, what you will. Yeah, so I gave you some of my examples. For my duration, I've admitted like I did originally plan for it to be three months, but I didn't have any of this advice. I didn't really have anything to go off of. I was just like, that was already so scary for me. And it felt like, Oh, if everything just like stopped, like, whoo, I'm going to be bored in three months. Y'all, I genuinely, this is actually hilarious. I don't know why I didn't mention it before. I genuinely told my mentor, I was like, I'm going to be bored. I'm terrified, I'm going to be bored. I'm going to be so bored. I bet by month to I'm coming back jokes on me. But anyways, those are the four defining elements for just high level, how to start having some specificity and direction for how you craft your break. Quick pause. If you are loving this episode, because this is a change of pace, really nitty gritty getting in here with some tips and tricks for you. And if you're loving this sabbatical series, just the raw open honestness, I would love if you would share this episode or any of these episodes. That is literally not only why I run the podcast, but so specifically why I am doing this mini series with all of these sabbatical episodes, because so many people need a break. There's no information out there about this. And I am being so candidly honest because I want to help people. I only reach so many people. And I know that every single one of you know someone or a group you're in or whatever it is that could benefit from this or people in your audience. So if you share it on your stories, make sure and tag me so I can repost you at Amanda Colby. And let's get back into it. Okay, so the third and final section of this episode is more planning and execution steps. And I will say as a side note, this is again, consistently across the board with everyone I've talked to who's taken breaks, maternity leaves, etc. Well, maybe more sabbaticals than maternity leaves because you quite literally need to take a break to birth a baby, I guess. But the hardest part is actually deciding to take the break. It feels daunting to plan everything. It may be harder to do the work or whatever you need to do during this radical, I don't know. But in terms of like planning and prepping, the hardest part is actually getting yourself to the point where you accept and admit, I need this break. And you do the hard thing of letting go scaling down, planning, prepping, turning away money, like letting go of control and your fears and leaning in to whatever version of a break that you're taking and trusting that you're going to come out on the other side better. Okay, so three steps for you here. The first one is what we just talked about, right? You need to determine the type of break you need, determine the defining examples so that we can use that as your guiding light, your North Star to start to prep things in your business in your life and make these decisions. So we're not just like arbitrarily being like, okay, well, what should I do with my team? I guess I will get rid of all of them or whatever, right? Everything I mentioned above is so, so, so important. So step number two is prepping your business. Step number three is prepping your personal life. So in prepping your business, there are six steps. Okay, so number one is reviewing your finances. In order to do this high level, I'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty weeds of all these because it'd probably be confusing an audio format or just like all here on this episode, but you need to review your finances. And these are in a specific order because they build upon each other. So hopefully you are already someone on top of this and have things tracked. If not, you've got some catch up to do, but this is going to be really important. You need to map out all your projected revenue, map out things like what would be affected if you are considering like lowering the amount of clients you have or pausing certain contracts or whatever it might be, like start to look at what's in play there, even if you haven't decided fully how it's all going to happen. You probably need to review all of your expenses and your team expenses so that you at least have that knowledge in front of you to say, hey, I think I want to just keep everyone and not change anything. Okay, well, like, what would that do? Even if it puts you into the red, that doesn't mean that is inherently, I don't want to label it as bad because sometimes that's what's necessary. But you don't want to go in blindly, right? You also probably will want to see what you can lower or pause expenses wise, maybe even see like what amount of sales or continued clients or whatever it is, would you need to like break even the goal doesn't have to at all be to break even that was never my goal or in my plan, even though that really sucked. And then you also will want to look at like, if it's a possibility for you to continue making sales in any way, like, how will that be happening? And like, what would those numbers potentially look like that feel realistic? Step number two is optional, but strongly recommended. And that's to do a business audit assess, you know, this is super high level of this, but like what's working, what's not working, looking at if you already know, you want to pivot or change or something when you come back, maybe you can start to assess some of that now, maybe that will influence what's happening in your next steps. It also might just help you make decisions on the next two steps, which are back and adjustments and front end adjustments. If you know, mostly what's working, what's not working, where can you cut costs, etc. So the next step is back end adjustments. This is things like automating cleaning up like as much as possible. You probably need to like review and update some of your systems or just like internal things. If it's all going to be running without you, hopefully you might have a team member keeping tabs on things or you may plan it where once a month you're checking XYZ and maybe you need to make a checklist of that. But you've got to review like what's all happening in the background as well as again, automate as much as possible. Next step is front end adjustments. So I'm categorizing this as more like specific adjustments to programs or offers or funnels. This is going to be really unique to each type of business. So I'll leave that there. Then last two steps here are prep. So now that you have started to know your finances and the adjustments you need to make, etc. Now we're really going to like plan it all out. And if you're choosing to not shut everything down completely like I did, then you may want to batch things. You may want to batch content to go out. You may want to batch a project or even just plan out projects for a team member to work on or you to work on when you come back, plan out adjusted team member tasks and responsibilities, etc. Last thing is communicate. You've got to communicate all of this to anyone involved and ideally to your audience as well. And then, you know, execute. So prepare your team to run things, prepare your clients, make sure you're giving them a heads up to however it's going to be affecting them with hopefully enough time to be like considered or make new decisions if they need to. So yeah. So the last step then is personal prep. And this is the side I didn't really do. Again, because no one talked about this and there was nothing online. So this one has four steps to it. Again, we're starting with finances, but of course personal finances. And because I think this is like such a big fear and roadblock for so many people is like, how do I afford this, right? And the next episode is literally dedicated to that entire question. But I would recommend doing financial planning. So map out what your personal finances are and look at your personal monthly expenses. You might want to break down or map out any like sabbatical or break related expenses that you might have. So of course, if you are going on maternity leave, there's going to be a lot of expenses in welcoming these new baby or babies. You know, any of that stuff, if you're just taking like a personal sabbatical or extended break and maybe you're traveling, what are those expenses look like? Or maybe you're not traveling and you're just like at home doing yoga, making smoothies or going to like a like I did like a trauma healing retreat, right? Like that was very expensive. So do that, make a game plan. If you have a partner with your partner, talk to them. If they can pick up extra clients or an extra job temporarily, there's always a way to make things work. Maybe you have to make lifestyle adjustments. Like I can promise you that if you need this, it's going to be worth it. And it feels overwhelming. But planning like this is going to make it so much easier to come back and not have this pressure and stress. So you can actually focus on whatever the purpose is for your break. Two is plan logistics. So again, only talking about our personal life here, but plan and coordinate. I'm kind of talking mostly from a high level here, but like any kind of logistics based on maybe your duration, your certain needs, if they're going to change or whatever in during this time period, or maybe there needs to be logistics and how involved in the business you are. For example, in a maternity leave, if you're still going to after, I don't know, the first month or so, if you're still going to do client check-ins or one call per week who's watching the baby during that time, right? If you're not on a maternity leave, you'd be surprised. There are other logistics as well, unless you're just, I don't know. But if you don't have kids, there's obviously less logistics, but there was quite a few in mind. This could even just be as simple as, hey, I want to go to a retreat during this time, or hey, I really want to look into new hobbies and activities or planning certain quiet time. That was one for me where I felt like I needed. It's just me and my partner, right? So we have probably the least amount of complicated life responsibilities in terms of kids. Actually, as soon as I said that statement, I was like, oh, our life is so complicated. But like for me, an example was like, I wanted quiet time and my partner and I are around each other 24/7. We live in various homes. We live out of a suitcase. So I purchased like some coloring books and some things I could take with me because I couldn't exactly invest in hobbies otherwise. And I had to communicate and plan with my partner, hey, I need quiet time in this manner or during this day and maybe he would leave the house or things. So even just things like boundaries and responsibilities that you need to address. Third step here, this is the biggest one I didn't do and wish so badly that I had help or guidance in. And that is to make a internal, mental, physical, whatever it is, healing plan. If you're not on like a healing journey or just taking this break for physical health reasons or something like that, and it's just fun, then you could replace this step with make the fun plan, make the travel plan, make the hobbies plan. Like these steps don't have to be complicated or long, okay? But for me, with this being so much of an internal plan, I knew that just stopping things wasn't a good plan. It wasn't a plan at all. But unfortunately, the time came for me to stop everything and I still couldn't find any answers. So I was kind of like thrown into the deep end going from 100 to zero, etc. But what I mean by this is not to overly try and control and plan how I'm going to heal in a 50 step, you know, week by week, whatever, but like really look at what is it that your need is if you're healing from, I've seen people heal from like mold toxicity, right? Like, so that plan of what do you need? What support do you need? Coach therapists, friends, maybe you do need resources like a course you'd like to dive into, maybe you just want to, right? Or like certain types of exercises, habits that you might want to look into or get more information on like you don't necessarily have to have all the answers. But any sort of list retreats, fun events you might want to go to like whatever it is that you can is going to be helpful. So it isn't just, okay, everything is paused. Now heal. Because that doesn't work. But at the same time, I'm going to caution caution caution you that this is not supposed to be so overly structured and so overly planned, like minute by minute, week by week, because no matter what your purpose is for taking a break, everyone within that break needs space. And space is probably uncomfortable for a lot of us. So don't get stuck in filling it with a lot of things, even if it's really uncomfortable. So I know that's like two sides of the coin, but that is that step. Last one, communicate and execute. So same as before, you've got to now communicate whatever these plans, logistics, budgets, etc, are with anyone involved, your partner, family, friends, maybe set boundaries. Like, I know for me, I got to the point where I told any friends I had, like, look, I'm just not going to respond, like for months, probably. And then there wasn't this awkward. Oh, sorry. I've been in a deep depression for two weeks. Oh, sorry. You know, like, so whatever those need to be, figure that out. So I hope this episode was really helpful. Again, this execution, this, the way it all pans out is going to just, like, look so different for everyone. And there's no right or wrong way to do this. This is just a helpful framework and guideline to try and help you because there isn't a roadmap for it. There, of course, can be a quote unquote roadmap for the business part, maybe on, like, planning, prepping for your leave. But other than that, so much of this is trusting your gut, understanding what you need, focusing on what's right for you, adjusting, adapting, being flexible, as things progress to what you need and, like, making the hard decisions, doing what needs to be done versus just continuing to chug along and keep going. So this is a little side note here that I'm just throwing out and going to see how you guys feel about it. But as I map this out, because this was my own framework, I realized how much I have to teach and help on this manner. And this is not at all going to be what my business focuses on or anything like that. But I can't sit here and have struggled so much to even learn about this, have permission to do this and understand what to do and then have all this knowledge and not think about wanting to, like, give it to everyone. So I'm basically thinking of creating it would definitely be a low ticket product. Like, I'm thinking less than 100 max less than like $200, probably way less than that with a lot of this information, like step-by-step guide, worksheet, examples, a lot more information that I could possibly give you in a podcast here. So if that sounds of interest to you, I will either try and put a poll on my stories. But again, that's like a 24 hour window. So I would say DM me the word sabbatical planner and I'm not going to respond. I'm not going to like sell you on this or whatever it is. I just want to see if there's actual interest in helping you guys have this guide to figure out how to plan these breaks because my hope is a so many of us have, you know, kids. So the maternity leave one is probably so relevant. And you know, there's so much that goes into that. But especially those of you that aren't necessarily even looking at the maternity leave and looking at like, whoa, wow, I'm either really burned out or whoa, I didn't even realize like this option to take a one or two, you know, month break. But how would that look like for me and my business at this stage or that? And I could just help with all of that. So DM me the word sabbatical planner, just so I can see how much interest this is. I'm just going to hard it and like it. And all I will do is let you know when it's created, if it's created. Otherwise, don't have to DM me anything. I hope you guys enjoy it and stay tuned for the next episode, which is a very highly requested one, which is about finances. And I'm giving you guys numbers. I'm keeping with the honesty theme. So how did I financially prepare for and support myself during this? What did I make? What were my expenses? What I spend things on? What do I regret? What I do differently? Like, I got, I got all the juice for you guys. So I will see you in the next episode. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]