Kap & J. Hood

8/5 9 AM: NFL Hall of Fame Recap

Hour 3: Three Chicago Bears made it into the NFL Hall of Fame, Steve Mongo McMichael, Devin Hester and Julius Peppers. The guys gave a recap of the HOF and who they want to be next. Who do you think should be the next Hall of Famer from the Chicago Bears? Plus, the Kap & J. Hood Cut Of The Day.

Duration:: 46m
Broadcast on:: 05 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

(upbeat music) - Good morning, Chicago, and welcome in to the Captain Jay Good morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. But David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Shane, we've got Jay Moore. We've got you here on this Monday. We hope that you have a great week. Captain I will be at Hal's Hall on Tuesday and Wednesday, giving you the latest and the greatest when it comes to Chicago Bears. Of course, Hard Knocks. Chicago Bears will be featured on Hard Knocks starting tomorrow. And over the weekend, we had something special. We cannot glaze over how special this weekend was. It's one thing to have to be involved in the Hall of Fame game, Bears and Texans, but it was more than just the first preseason game. What was so special about the weekend is that we were able to see what I say is three Bears go to the Hall of Fame. Julius Peppers, who spent time here as a Chicago Bear, Devin Hester, the greatest special teams player from the Bears I've ever seen. And then Steve Mango, big Michael, also going into the Hall of Fame over the weekend. I'm so happy for all three of them. But in particular, Mango, Mango, our teammate, still our teammate here at ESPN 1000. I did pre and post game shows with him. And I did some March Madness shows, a schedule error, it was a scheduling error. And somehow Mango came in and March. Heard I had to work with you, hoodie. Let's break down Illinois. Ah, sure, Mango. I don't know why you're here, but let's have some fun. Mango was the best. And I think all of us, if you met him once, you have stories for a lifetime when it comes to steeping Michael. - Yeah, remember we were doing football fest, which we now have at the Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana on the 25th, it's coming up. It was at 115 Bourbon Street in Marion, that park. - Yes. - And he got there early, I got there, 'cause I always MC, I got there early. Danny's like be there at like 7.30, super early. And I'm there with a cup of coffee. Hey, brother. I'm like, Mango? - Yeah, they told me I'm working today. So he and I hung out. He was awesome, man. And I saw something on social this week. Do you remember the game that bears on Monday night football beat the Jets in overtime? And the Jets are running the clock out. Bruce Costlet is their coach. And Mango rips the ball out of Blair Thomas' hands, forces the fumble, recovers it himself, comes to the sideline, smashes his helmet on the ground, the bears score get to overtime and win. It was awesome. And to see it, and you know, my heart breaks for what's going on in his life, but to see the bagpipers out there playing in front of his house and all his teammates coming with his gold jacket, it was super cool, man. - It's just, we've known him for a long time cap. You could cover him as a player. I knew him as coach as well because I was on his Chicago Slaughter Arena League team. I'm there wearing number 99. I got to send you that picture, by the way, with me in the uniform. - I got to see it. - And right there on the bench at the old, at the, it was called now the now arena, but the Sears Center. That's where the Chicago Slaughter played. And it was my turn to come out for special teams. Not in the gunner cap, but just as someone to clog up the middle, for special teams. And I might go out there and I get the strong hand of Vic Michael on my left shoulder. Hoodie, we're just up three. It's too close, brother, not yet. And I sat there for the rest of the time because he didn't want me out there because he didn't want me messing it up. So I just sat there by uniform, just enjoying watching him coach up and down the sidelines with the Chicago Slaughter cap. And so it's just like, there's somebody's story. Of course, me being a wrestling guy watched his transition from football to being a pro wrestler for WCW. And he had the quickest, like the Fred Flintstone feet. He didn't have the timing. He got better after a while, but they'd throw him into the ropes and he'd fall down. Like he wasn't trained enough, but he was entertaining enough to be in pro wrestling. - He was perfect as an entertainer for that. - So I just, it was just so great. So it was great to see Mango. They put the jacket on Steve Mango McMichael. He's run by his teammates and family. And Kathy McMichael got a chance to be able to deliver Steve's speech. Listen very closely. - Hey, Chicago Bears fans and Mango fans. Woohoo, I'm in the Hall of Fame, baby. I wanna thank the Hall of Fame, the senior selection committee, the Chicago Bears and all the fans. The best fans in the world and the best city to play football in. I played 15 years in the NFL and loved every minute of every down. I played with the greatest players in the NFL and the greatest defense to this day, baby. I wanna thank all my teammates. It's an honor to join my teammates, Walter Payton, Richard Dent, Mike Singletary, Dan Hampton, Jim Bo Covert, Coach Dicke, Coach Ryan and all the Bears before us. I'd like to say a special thank you to my pseudo-sun Jerry Payton for introducing me. I wanna thank my family, my father, Mac, my brother, Richard, my sister, Sharon and Catherine Denise, which is me, to my wife, Misty, thank you for giving me my beautiful daughter, Macy, and to Macy, you'll always be my little girl, Daddy loves you. And finally to my mother, we made it, mama, your baby made it. Bear down and hook 'em. - There you go, Steve and Michael, the sister of Steve and Michael, Cathy and Michael delivering that speech. And Jared Payton, you know, always has been there right there from the beginning. Would Steve, mama, Michael, the son of Walter Payton, presenting Steve into the Hall of Fame? - The Bears were prepped to go on a Super Bowl run, but Steve really was the special sauce on that 46 defense. - Danny, go, Steve. - The joy, the hard work that you put into this, I think it all comes to a head, and that's where Steve's at right now. I think for him, that's that satisfaction, that all the hard work that he put in is finally here. I'm honored and privileged to present Steve McMichael for "In Shrimon" in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. - gave me goosebumps. First of all, Jared's such a good person, such a good dude. And to think as a little kid, he's presenting his father for induction, and out here he is presenting Mango for induction so many years later. It was amazing, amazing. - Yeah, just to see him alive, Cap, to see him into the Hall of Fame. It's overdue, but now he's in it and he's alive. And by the way, the way Cathy delivered that speech, sound like something Mango would have written. - Yes. - You know, I think he probably did. The way he can be able to interpret and be able to speak. Yeah, so that's, I think that Steve had a lot to do with that speech, especially with the babies on the end. - Yeah. - I'm in there, baby. That's what he would, that's what Mango, that's to his speech pattern. And so that's a great story. Devin Hester's a great story as well as Devin Hester goes in the Hall of Fame as well. - I hope me being here today opens up the doors and brings some attention to other guys. Like Brian Mitchell and Josh Chris, because I'm not the only returner who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I'm just the first. - Yeah, the talk around here, the down these hallways about how special teams, players, especially Devin Hester doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame, has always been nonsense. Not today, not last year, but it's always been nonsense. If you're the best at your position on the football field, you deserve to have accolades, you deserve to be at the very top. Devin Hester is the best we've ever seen. We've seen Willie Gault and Despicanen, we saw Glenn Milburn, we've seen a lot for the Bears, but nothing like Devin Hester. Oh my God, he, it took your breath away. We've always said, who are the guys? They're at the batter's box, or they got the ball in their hand pitching, or the puck on their stick, or the ball in their hand basketball. Who is it? Devin Hester was what? Oh, they're kicking the Hester? Hang on a second hon, I gotta see this. Yeah, it's incredible. - And again, Cap, you have to decide what your best at. He was never gonna be a great wide receiver. He wasn't gonna be that. He was never gonna be a running back. But as far as his field vision, that's crazy that he was able to take the ball and do what he did with the ball. I mean, again, it's special teams. It's a third of the game. Field position, scoring. It took pressure off the offense. Hell, it took pressure off the defense. Devin Hester was the best we've ever seen in the Bears uniform at doing that. - Still remember Tony Dungy, I interviewed over at TV. I think why don't we still be had him on here? I told the same story. We're not kicking a Hester, coach. Come on, man, we could stop this guy. Okay, they kicked till we take the opening kick back. God, see you later. And he said, that's it, no more. Right, it rightfully so, right? We talk about the Hall of Fame right here on Cap and Jhood. Cap between 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. We saw a great player. This player, his career is along the lines of Michael Strahan, Hall of Famer, right? - Yep. - Carl Eller, Hall of Famer. Randy White, Jack Youngblood, Warren Sapp, Bob Lillie, Jason Taylor, Bruce Smith, Joe Green. I just named for you nine Hall of Famers, all right there. The only one that's now Hall of Famer that's on this list is Kaleis Campbell, who I think also will be Hall of Famer at some point. But Julius Peppers is ours too, Cap. He's a Hall of, he's a bear too, even though a lot of years at Carolina, you know, a few years with Green Bay, but he's ours. He's a bear. When he came here, we thought, oh my God, the mood changed, did it not? - It did, they went and got the private jet and they flew down, Lovee and Angelo, and they got the deal, yeah. It's Coach Smith, we're at the door. - What? - Let me in. - Yeah. - And the deal was done, bam. - What's the math on this, Cap? Seven sacks, seven plus 11, plus 11, plus eight. That's how many sacks he had. - He was a monster. - 37. - 37 sacks, 37.5, 37 and a half sacks. - He was a monster and he shouted out the bears, even though he played in Carolina and in Green Bay, shouted out the bears and what Chicago meant to him, what Michael Jordan meant to him, yeah, it was super cool. And how about MJ being there? - This ain't in my speech, but I'm gonna say it anyway. While I'm talking about Chapel Hill in North Carolina, and I know this is the pro football hall of fame, I ain't gonna shit up here and act like my idol and one of the reasons that I went to Chapel Hill is not in the building. The gold, his airness, Michael Jordan. (audience cheering) - MJ, I wanna thank you for the inspiration and the memories, love you big bro. - Awesome, how about that? How about that? Michael doesn't come to the bull's ring of honor, but he's at the pro football hall of fame 'cause his golf partner Dwight Frini and his buddy Julius Peppers are going in the hall. Oh my God, it was super cool to see that. What means more, right? Friendship, being part of a circle, versus on the west side of Chicago, correct. Sad, but true. - It's sad, it's pathetic, but it's true. - Cap, yeah, 37 and a half sacks. That's right, you gave me 37 and a half. Holy smokes, that's production, man. - Production, big time, big time production. - So now Cap, what's next, right? So we've got three bears, two and a half, but we got three bears into the hall of fame. - So I was wondering over the weekend, as I was watching the festivities, I'm like, well, okay, this is a great moment. Now, what's next? Because there's still one, maybe two 85 bears that should have been there a long time ago on that offensive line. It's ridiculous. You mean Jay Hildenberg's in a hall of famer? - Agreed. - Come on, brother. - How 'bout Olin Crutes? - Olin Crutes should be in the hall of fame. - Look up, just look up the numbers of where he's ranked among all time centers. - Olin Crutes is a hall of famer. Jay, hell of a football player who should get hall of fame consideration. Peanut Tillman, our teammate Lance Briggs, seven time pro bowler, man. Lance. - At some point, yes. At some point, for sure. But how long do we have to wait? I mean, Devin Hester was obvious. To me, he likes special teams. He don't like special teams. The guy was great. - He was amazing. - Paddle G, he was great. - Amazing. - Mango, it's overdue. Yeah, when he's 85 bears, it should have been in a while ago. While he was upright, he should have been walking into the hall of fame and Ken. He did not. June's peppers we knew was great. I mean, as a Carolina Panther, but as a bear, unbelievable. So now what's next? Who's next? - The next one to go in, I'm gonna say for me, it should be Olin. - For me, it's Olin Kruits. But Peanut Tillman with the Peanut Punch, hell of a football player, man. Lance, I said the 40 of those four in Hilgy. All who will get consideration. For me, if I'm voting, the first guy put in's Olin. - First ballot Hall of Famer. For you, first ballot. - Yeah, I mean, first ballot, whatever it takes, he belongs in there. - I think it's gonna take time, Shay, with some of these names, right? What Peanut Tillman, here's a guy here again, part of that lineage of Lovey Smith and now for that Peanut Punch, I don't know if it's going to be in the next four or five years. I don't know that. But here's the one thing I will tell you. As far as the NFL Hall of Fame's concern, cap more times than that. 99 times out of 100, they get it right. You just have to wait. It's not the basketball Hall of Fame where it's a public toilet, everyone sits on it. - Right. - Even about like, the best, the best get in. There is no just like half step in, just letting somebody in, just let them in. - They just, I pulled up best centers in NFL history. Here's the rankings. They list the top, I think 25. Jim Otto, Dwight Stevenson, Mike Webster, some guy named Mel Hein. Dermaty Dawson, who Olin has told me, dude, might be the best ever. Jim Ringel, Kevin Moai, Bulldog Turner, Chuck Bittenerick, Jason Kelsey, Jeff Saturday, Alex Mack, Olin Cruz. Pretty amazing company, pretty amazing company. - Just like, I'm wondering when, when will it be? I mean, because here's the thing about great players, the numbers don't go away. It's not like, it's like Sano. Sano's always a nighttime all-star, always a great glove man, came through in the clutch. He should've been in the Hall of Fame years and years before he got in. - Wow, he's alive. - Yeah, right. - Because the numbers didn't change. - Correct. - It shouldn't have had to be Vicki Santo, who I love, giving the speech. It should've been Ron Santo standing up there giving the speech and for whatever reason, they put him in after he died. - I can understand like, you know, but the numbers never changed though. He shouldn't have to go through 7,000 veteran committees to be able to finally get in. - Right. - It's ridiculous. - Ridiculous. Because a great player is a great player. There shouldn't be no controversy about it. So like, who's the next player to go to the Hall of Fame? We just named four of them for you. What do you think? 312-332-ESPN-3323776, our phone number. By the way, if you were in Kenton, if you were there for the Hall of Fame, well, we know there's a lot of Chicagoans that made the trip a lot of Bears fans and made the trip to Kenton. Were you there? If you were there, give us a story on the Captain J. Hood Morning Show. (dramatic music) - Truth of the matter is, you're listening to Captain J. Hood on ESPN 1000, weekdays, seven to 10 a.m. But it'll last a lifetime. It may only be three hours a day, but it'll last you a lifetime. (dramatic music) - Were you there at the Hall of Fame to check out the Bears going into the Hall of Fame? Did you get a chance to watch? Wanna get your thoughts? Three Bears going into the Hall of Fame. Julius Pepper is Devin Hester and Steve Mango McMichael. Captain J. Hood on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. By the way, cap our guy Albert Breuer, who we talk to every Tuesday at 8.30. He's got a special column out on SI.com, Money Morning Quarterback. He's got, I think he's got five big, fiery topics when it comes to the Bears. It's out right now on SI.com. We'll talk to him tomorrow. - I will pull that up and read this to us when we get off the air. So, let's go to the phone lines and talk to you. The next Bear into the Hall of Fame will be blank. Who is that? 313-332-3776, our phone number. Southwest Side Marco is with us on cap and J. Hood. Marco, good morning. - Good morning, guys. Good morning, Jenny. How are you? - Good, Marco. How are you? Go ahead. (laughing) That's it. - I love you guys. Thanks for taking that call. I was there at ceremony. It was the weather sucked, but once it cleared up, they pushed the ceremony back a couple of hours 'cause of the rain. But once it started, it was my third visit to the hall. Got to see Ben get in, got Erlacher get in. This was a really great class, but I just started balling after when they showed the montage of Mango with just emotion and just how much of a record he was. And then seeing him surrounded by those Bears, wearing his Hall of Fame jacket, gosh. It was just really, really emotional for me. Just because he's one of my favorite Bears. And I'm so glad that he was recognized as the great player that he is. And I love being there. I love seeing that. And I love sharing the moment with all these other, even nine fan Bears that really got into it. And I'm just so glad he's in. And I'm glad I got to experience that in person. - Marco, I'm glad that Mango is alive to know that he went to the Hall of Fame. He's been suffering with ALS for such a long time. It just shows the fight that he has that he's still around. And he, and his wife and his family and his teammates that surrounded him. I just think that's just an amazing story. - I just wanted to add, just to see this, but just tighten with him and ravage like he has been. But he's still alive, he's still fighting it. And let's, God bless him. I mean, he's such a fighter in front of him. And I'm glad he got to see it for himself. So thanks for taking my call. - Thanks for the call, man, appreciate you. Joaquin, there she is. Honey Bear on ESPN 1000. Honey Bear. - Oh, were you waiting for me to call? - Yes, we've been waiting for you. How are you? - I'm very, very tired. - Yeah. - Very hoarse if you can't tell. This weekend, if you don't know, I'm part of an organization of super fans that go every year or some I affiliated with the Hall of Fame and do a bunch of charity work with them and whatnot. And this weekend was pretty touching. We got to have an opportunity, some of us bear fans that are part of the organization to walk with Devon Hester and Mongo's contingency, which actually was Jarrett and some of the McMichael family that wanted to stay behind. Actually, we thought we were gonna have Misty that ended up being mostly Jarrett's family because Misty wanted to be there right away. But we did that for the Hall of Fame parade and it was freaking awesome. I've done the Hall of Fame parade on and off for the last 12 years now. And if you've never been to Canton, it is quite the experience during the Hall of Fame and Triumphant. It is such an interesting, maybe Canton is a very small town in terms of country towns. Well, it's a big town for a country town, but it's very much like Joaquin, actually, if you combine it with Courtney, it's got a little bit of wealth, but it's also got a lot of poverty. And along with it, they know how valuable it is to honor the history of it. And one of their themes is when they have people come into the Hall is to say welcome home. They want you to feel like you're at home here. And they've always honored that. But one of the things that's always bothered me over the years is that no Bear Sands used to come. When I marched the parade, I can count. And it's about a three mile parade. There's only like, I can count like only about five Bear Sands unusual when I marched the parade. When early I got in, maybe about 30 or 40 fans in the parade. This year, I couldn't even count how many. There were so many people that came out for both Hester and Mongo. And Hester, I got to march with Hester with a few of my friends. It was an incredible experience. He was so chill in his life. His kids were just fantastic. It was raining as you saw. He saw his environment. It was very wet. But it was such a great experience. Everybody just threw the love in. He was just wonderful. And then when we had the actual entrainment, Mongo was the second one to go. And you know, us Bear Sands know about Mongo. But so many of the others used it. And when they saw us getting all emotional, they didn't really understand. One of the things we really thought we wished, and that's, you said like the speech, you know, his sister did such a great job speaking it. I always thought maybe it was nice to have a little bit of like maybe AI with his voice. 'Cause like you said, it definitely sounded like he wrote it. I absolutely agree. She did her best job to mock how he would have said it. But I feel like if they kind of voiced because his voice, would have shown everybody else who he was. - It was collaborative on a bear from what we understand. And it sounds like what Mongo would have said. Apparently, it was collaborative between his sister and Mongo. So that's why the speech sounded that way. There's some babies in there. It sounds like what Mongo would say because he partly wrote that speech. - Yeah, because before he lost his ability to communicate, if I get in, here are things I want said, which is super cool. And it's just heartbreaking to see where he's at. It's heartbreaking, but I'm happy for him that he knows he got in. - Honey Bear, we're glad that you gave us that a bird's eye view, a bear's eye view because she was there. - Super cool. - Appreciate your telephone call. And now Honey Bear leaves light over for you. 312-332-3776, our phone number. The next bear to go to the Hall of Fame will be Tom in Oakland on the ESPN-1000. Tom, good morning. - Morning, guys. So, personally, I think the next bear should be Jay Hildenberg, either him or Olin Cruz because they don't have enough great centers in the Hall of Fame. Even some of them that they do have. And a lot of them too, like the old ones, like I think Cap mentioned like Clyde Bulldog Turner. He's quite center, but he also was more known as like a linebacker. Same thing with Chuck Becknerich. So, they need to represent the center position better. And then too, I was there six years ago with Erlacher, like me and my brother and my little guy were there. And it just meant so much more this year because since my little guy now plays football and he knows a little bit more about it. And we actually thought it was great that they postponed the ceremony like an hour and a half back because then it gave us time where then we could go into the Hall. We could spend as much. We didn't feel like we had to rush through anything. And like the whole, that whole bus room, I could be in there hour for hours. And even my son was like, you know, where's Dick, where's Buck hist? And where's Erlacher? And, you know, taking pictures of all the different bus that way. And then even the ceremony, like my son never saw Mango play. So, but even during the whole thing with him, like I turn and even he has like peers running down his face. So, yeah, this year it just meant so much more. So, it was great. And I'll never forget it. Tom, we know how much you love football. And I know it's emotional for you because, again, we have an emotional investment in these guys. Watch him over the years. Watch an '85 Bears team with Steve Mango-McMichael. Again, one of the bright personalities on that team is he Devin Hester, deserving to be in the Hall of Fame as a special teamer. That's cap when it supersedes fandom. When you have that investment and happy for someone who's struggling right now, dying with ALS, but alive to be able to see his greatest achievement and that's getting into the Hall of Fame. - Yeah, and to see all the people that showed up to support him at his home, super cool, super cool. - All right, more of your phone calls coming up. Cap and I are asking the question, who should be next to go into the Hall of Fame for the Bears? 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 are our phone number. Were you there? We're talking about it. On the home of the Bears, ESPN 1,000. (beeping) - Here's to Dave's headline, headline, with cap and J-hood. - White Sox dropped their 20th consecutive ball game, losing to Minnesota over the weekend on Sunday. They're in Oakland tonight. If Oakland can get the White Sox three straight, the Sox would enter Friday's game hosting the Cubs, looking to set the all-time record modern day history with 24 consecutive losses. The Cubs took three of four from the Cardinals, should have swept the series, but thumped them six, too, on Sunday night baseball Cubs and twins at Wrigley. This evening, and Steve McMichael, Devin Hester, Julius Peppers, now firmly entrenched as Hall of Famers after they were inducted in Canton over the weekend. - Jaymore. - Cap and J-hood, I'm back. - Appreciate you guys. - And to your streaming of ESPN 1,000 apps. - Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. (upbeat music) - Well, with you till 10 o'clock, then Mike Greenberg comes in at 10, followed by Carmon and Yurco at 12. One in Silvie at 2.30. Blood and a Bell at 6.30. Then, White Sox baseball is a tick on the A's, right here on ESPN 1,000. At eight o'clock, cap and J-hood, not only on ESPN 1,000, also cap, we've got our YouTube channel, the cap and J-hood YouTube channel. We want people to subscribe. - So, our YouTube channel, like every show has one, we have the one for the station, but you can get all the little chunks of our show. When Jaymore cuts 'em up, little best of type things, there's some little chunks that are hilarious. Put 'em on, maybe while you're getting a walk in or you work out, or just having coffee go, no, I don't want to listen to that. I never laugh. - Did you say best of type things? Is that what you said? - I did. - Are there two of us? - No, you can listen to the whole show. But I said, there was also a segment on there, Jaymore puts up a little chunks of funny stuff from the show. - Little chunks, yeah. - You can think into the podcast there, Capy. - Our YouTube channel's got wonderful stuff, you can find all our shot or no shots if you miss 'em every day. - Little chunks, like, hey! - Here's Cap being an idiot about this. Here's hoodie opining on that. - Yes. - If you missed our conversation with Albert Breer last week, a lot of good math, you jude on Intel, that's available on YouTube as well. - Little chunk from the show. - Other chunks, hoodie. - Yeah, that's what I've told, the little chunks. - That's our show, little chunks here and there. Training Cam coverage, here on ESPN Chicago is brought to you by the Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana, 3-1-2-3-2-E-S-P-N, 3-3-2-3-7-7-7-6-0-4-0. If you're just curious, we've been talking about the Hall of Fame, Cap. We get our guys in the Hall of Fame. Julius Peppers, he's still a bear, Cap. Never mind about the Carolina bear. - 37 and 1/2 sacks. - Yeah, he was a-- - Brother! - And he talked about it, he said-- - Come on, man. - Oh, Chicago changed me, man. He said it's the best. (air whooshing) - A lot of people don't know that story that you told earlier. Like, the last time we thought the bears in their front office and the head coach and the team was on the same page, is what you talked about with Julius Peppers. - Yep. - It's free agency. - I remember sitting down and having lunch with Jerry Angelo and he said, we got a plane. George, we're chartering a jet. - What? - We're spending that kind of money? Yes, we are. And Lovey and Angelo, and I'm sure it was Clifstein at the time, the old salary cap guy. They got on the plane, flew to Julius. Free agency starts at midnight. (knocking) We're outside, open the door. Five minutes into free agency. Chicago is signed to Julius Peppers. - Doc, that's how you do it. - That's how you do, like 92 million? Yeah. - You can relate to that as a recruiter. Right there, the door's done. - Right there, let me in. - Let me in. (laughing) - Right there at the door. - We're getting it done now, right? - Correct. - But if someone else takes you. - Correct. - All right, let's go to the phone lines and talk to you. Bears fans, Lake in the Hills, who's Dave on Cap and Jhood. Hey, Dave, good morning. - Hey, good morning, guys. How are you guys doing? - We're doing awesome, man. How are you, Sparky? - I am still hyped up over McMichael. I went to his house on Saturday. And about 100 or so people outside got to listen to the bagpipes and Osborne and Tyrone Keith came out, talked a little bit. His sister brought the gold jacket out that he looks good and gold. And it was awesome. It was awesome. She said that he can hear us out there. We yelled, we screamed, we tried to do the Bears fight song. And it was just, I'm so glad that I drove down there, drove around Homer Glen. I never knew where he lived. Just figured I would find the TV crews and everything out there. And 20 minutes running around Homer Glen, I found it. And I'm so glad that I was down there and able to celebrate with fellow Bear fans. And it was just incredible. - All right, my friend. Thank you very much. - Appreciate you. - And the District of Columbia listening on the ESPN Chicago app here is Tony on Cap and Jhood. Tony, good morning. - Good morning, fellow. How are you? - What's up there, Sparkles? How are you? - All right. You know, those are the ones that remember the 85 Bears. They're always gonna be that place in our hearts for those players on that team. Hell, even fuller, we're gonna love that. But the next Chicago Bear that should be in the Hall of Fame, inducted in the Hall of Fame is Peanut Tillman. This guy has a move made after him that is studied and instructed by high schools, colleges, and the professional football league. Peanut Tillman did something that changed the league and the weight football display. And that's all I got for you. Fellows have a wonderful day. - You too, buddy. And again, Peanut was amazing. I would put Olin in first, 'cause I think he was one of the top 15 in his position in the history of the sport, but Peanut Tillman, he's right. The Peanut Punch, a revolutionized football. - Shay, I need you to look at Peanut Tillman's numbers for me. And then we'll get back to you, 'cause I have it in front of me, from Pro Football Reference, and then we'll get back. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 is our phone number. Carol Stream, here is Derek on Cap and Jay Hoods. We talk Bears here on the home of the Bears. - ESPN 1000, Derek, good morning. - Yeah, good morning, fellas. Appreciate you taking my call. - Appreciate your call. - I just wanted to echo the sentiments of all the people that have called in so far that it went to the ceremony. I got the opportunity to go down there this weekend, and it was just fantastic. I mean, they put on a really good show. Good, you know, great thing for all the fans. Fans of all different teams getting along. You see jerseys and people from everywhere, but more than anything, the number of Bears fans, not only at the stadium, both days, but all around town that we ran into, was just amazing, it was awesome to see. But yeah, I just wanted to say, well, what Honey Bear was talking about, about the parade, we didn't even know anything about a parade, so maybe that's why they never, she doesn't see many Bears fans there, because they didn't make it known. I didn't know that that was taking place. - You went specifically for Devon, right? I mean, you're there for the other Bears, but Devon being there, that helped, right? - Well, I'm almost 50, so I was mostly, I mean, I love Devon too, but McMichael, man, I mean, Guy should've been in there a long time ago, kind of made me mad that he wasn't able to get up there and give us what had been the greatest hall of fame speech of all time. - Yeah. - You know, but yeah, it was moving, definitely moving. - That's bad, I appreciate it. - Yeah, I appreciate you guys. - All right, Derek, thank you very much. Shea, have you taken a look at Charles Huma's numbers? - Yeah, and what do you think? - I like Peanut to tell me he's really good. The turnover's caused, I think he's third all time, among corners, he's just not gonna get into the hall of fame. One all-pro selection, two pro bowls, it's not gonna happen, it's, he probably should on the forced fumbles, 44 of them in his career, Peanut punched named after him, the way these people vote on this thing, he just doesn't have the accolades. One all-pro selection, that's it, it's not getting in. - Yeah, he was a hell of a football player, that's why I roll with Olin, because he's listed as any list, top 15 setters to ever play. - But back to Tillman, 'cause that's why I ask Shea, back to Tillman, I asked an impartial observer, and someone who pours through the numbers and Shea Noiling, his thoughts on it. Now, I have the numbers in front of me too. Now, here's the thing, Cap. Think about Charles Tillman as a baseball player, the innovation, right? Or early NFL, here's a guy in a van at the peanut punch, put him in, here's Joe Nameth. I remember working with Befone, by the way, with Joe Nameth. - Joe Nameth was one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, I said, "Doug, have you seen, "really done a deep dive of Joe Nameth's numbers? "He's one of the greatest of all time." - I showed him, Cap. He was crestfallen. That's like, 'cause he wasn't very good, but he really was able to put the league on the map with that prediction. - Plus, if you go back and look at Aikman's numbers, people are like, "Troy, Aikman's numbers aren't that good." The game was different then. It was a different way they played the sport. - Well, that's where I think the accolades weigh in, right? 'Cause like, the all-pro selections matter probably more than anything other than a Super Bowl. Like, if you're a quarterback, you have to be a multiple-time all-pro, probably an MVP and a Super Bowl champion to be surefire Hall of Fame. - Hey, just one whole-pro selection. I think you're fighting an uphill battle. - Okay, so here's Olin, 14 seasons. All-pro, first team, '06. All-pro, second team, '05. Six-pro bowls, 2,000 NFL all-decade team. Under-greatest bears of all time. Yeah, I mean-- - All-decade team is probably-- Olin probably gets in. He's got the two all-pros, multi-time bro-boller, the all-decade team. That stuff matters to people. I think Olin gets in. - Peanuts, I think, fighting a very uphill battle. - That's why I asked you, 'cause I want you to do a deep dive quickly on the numbers, and I'm looking at the names through the years. There's nobody that's a Hall of Famer that has numbers like Charles Tillman. Nobody's on that list from Rishan Mathis to Rey Buchanan to Todd Light to Randy Logan, Rosie Taylor. I mean, like I said, the gimmick would get you in in other sports. Here's the event of the Peanut Punch. Put 'em in, right? - The NFL's just too strict for it. Like the NFL, you really have to be one of the two or three best players at your position for an extended period of time to have any hope. And it's just the way it is. Like, Pro Football reference does their Hall of Fame monitor. And basically, if you have a 99 or above on the Hall of Fame monitor, you're getting in. And Peanut Tillman has a 36. So, they just would be crazy. - He's a 36, and what do you need to get in? - 99. - And you have to have a minimum of a 99. - It's not like you have to have it. It's just if you have a 99, you're getting in. You probably have to have better than a 60 to have a good shot. - And what is Olin? - I'd have to check. I would say that definitely bears ring of honor, Charles Tillman. - Oh, 100%. - Whenever you get that. Whenever you get that in Barrett ice. Maybe it'll be before Barrett ice. - Oh, it'll be before Barrett. - Olin's at a 58.08, but for centers, that's probably gonna be enough. - Yes, it was just a rock. - It was a rock. - So, I get it. - Olin and J. Hilkenberg in about the same spot, actually, on the Hall of Fame monitor. I do think eventually both of them get it. - Yeah, there you go. - So, Rob, you think Hilkenberg should be in, right? - I do, I do. And I wanted to quickly say also about Mongo. He was my favorite player back in the day on those bears teams. And he remains a beloved figure down here as well. Of course, he was born and used to move shortly to another part of Texas. Later in life when his parents separated and the wife remarried. But I always remember this special that they would do how he would go rattlesnake hunting. In the town that he lived in, they to this day still have an annual rattlesnake hunting event. And he's just such a character. It was kind of sad and just kind of a side note. My brother's wife has special needs. And he moved two or three years ago to South Carolina to be in a better weather environment for her. And Mongo and his family looked at their house when they were looking to relocate 'cause he had made a bunch of modifications to the home for her elevators, swimming pool, wide doors, no steps, et cetera. Unfortunately, they didn't get it, but he just said that they were the nicest people. He couldn't disclose any of this at the time, but my heart just goes out to it's just pretty emotional. So in any event, thanks for taking my call. - Appreciate it. Thanks, Rob. Rob in Sugarland, Texas, giving us a call here on the Captain J. Hood Morning Show. The cut of the day is next. (upbeat music) - You're listening to Captain J. Hood. Follow the show on Instagram @thecatman and @igjhood. This is ESP at Chicago. Chicago's home for sports. - It's now time for the Captain J. 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So Sal, north side of Chicago River. - You know, we're in a sports household cap where I live because my wife was a scholarship volleyball player and, you know, obviously I love sports and talking to sports with you and our audience every day. It's just funny this time of year with the Olympics, right? I mean, we're immersed in bare season hard knocks and the NFL right around the corner and college football, everything else. Just to hear the noises coming out of a room in my home I'm not used to hearing, meaning Michelle Peacock is like, yeah, girl, get it. Yeah. And I'm like, what's going on in there? What is she watching? Oh, the Olympics. She's into the individual stories. You know how some people are into ancillary sports? We've worked with people like that. They don't like the five major sports or six major sports that we like, but they'll tell you about something else. Ben Mitten. Yeah, or the non-revenue sport. Yeah, did you hear about sports? No, tell me about it. That barely gets, you know, news in the paper. Correct. But she's into the stories, like Simone Biles without a question, the goat. We've seen with Ledecky. We've seen with the men's and women's swimming, with the track and feel, she's into it. And I'm just like, you know what? You never say anything about sports on a regular basis until now, but that's her jam. It's like the volleyball. She's telling me the plays. I'm like, oh, okay, she's sitting me down. Pretty awesome. But then when the Bears game comes on, Jay Moore, then the iPad comes out and she's ordering more from Bezos. No, that's my wife. I'll sit and watch with you and Brett for a while. She's ordering stuff and I keep getting alerts on my phone. Your order through Amazon has been placed. Oh my God. Another one? Hang on, I forgot more. So it's, you know, for her, it's fun. He's individual stories, which is really great. All right, we've got Joey G in Melrose Park on ESPN 1000, Joey. Good morning, gentlemen. How are you? What's up? Joseph. Yeah, the Hall of Fame speak was a half and half for me, 'cause I had to watch in the 80s that football with the Bears and my father would teach me what they're doing. And Mick Michael was the best at splitting double teams. There was one really highlight reel that he doubled team. I'm sorry, he got double team that he four armed shiver, both guys and Zack the quarterback. So that was the happy part. Seeing him in the bed is a, I cried. And I'm gonna be honest, it was very emotional 'cause I could just imagine if he was helping the speech. Yeah, it would have been amazing. Joey, you're the man. Have a great day. Thank you, Joey. And we appreciate you listening and calling in and being part of the program here on Cap and Jay Hood. Our thanks to Shay and Jay Moore on the other side of the glass. Tomorrow Cap, Halles Hall. Ready to roll, baby. Next two days up at Halles Hall. So for Cap, I'm Jay Hood. We'll talk to you tomorrow from Lake Forest. So long, everybody. Take that. Dean from Chicago. Take that. That's awful, Dean. Come on, you got 10 seconds. Well, what do you want me to do? I got nothing else for you. How about I better take that? Yeah, next time. All right, wow, goodbye.