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Tom, braving the heat today. Yeah, you know what, at least it wasn't as smoking hot as Saturday was, which was brutal in Thursday and Friday. But Tom, thanks for having me. I appreciate you. Thanks for joining us. So I'm going to hit you with three and out. So we're going to do three questions, get you out of here, getting a pool or something, get some cold water. Let's go with your overall view of camp so far. We're 10 days in, so that's kind of a good barometer to look at. We got the preseason game on Thursday here. What's been your view of a Gerard Mayo camp as opposed to the Bill Belichick camp we've seen for the past 20 plus years here in New England? I think what's most noteworthy is, and when I write today, I'm going to mention this, this has been a very good week for Gerard Mayo, really dating back to last Monday. He had to take a stand with Judon. He did so. They didn't resolve anything, but Judon to a degree capitulated back on the field today and we spoke to Judon, which we will get to. But between that and then after Wednesday, they had a full-pad practice Tuesday, Wednesday was a day off. They came back Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's smoking heat. It kept pads on on Thursday, but Friday and Saturday, in pads today and Monday, in pads, all two-hour practices today, full practice, full contact to the ground tackling, which is an anomaly. This has been a more intense practice than the Patriots have really gone through in the last two or three years with Bill Belichick, which is interesting, and I'd have to look back. But Bill would start with Red Zone, and they would go hard with Red Zone stuff when the pads came on. Patriots have been slower to get to that, but these practices have been a little bit longer and more consistently in pads than previously. So it has been an interesting development. I think it's good for Mayo because we've also seen, sorry, the Bible here. The last thing I'll say is the incremental progress that you would like to see from a team under a first-year head coach. They're not where Bill had them by any stretch, but the organization and temple of practice isn't proving each day. Yeah, and that's good to see because early on in camp, the scuttlebutt was, "Oh, it's a little sleepy here," and it's a little slow. But as things have gone along, like you said, the intensity is ramping up, and that's good heading towards Thursday with another team coming into town. Yeah, and the sleepy observation by people who are not knee-jerk and panicky say, "Let's see what tomorrow looks like," because you're not going to ever hit the ground full speed. I think everybody listening to their sports radio station has been in sports. You understand that early practices can be a little staccato, stuttering, sputtering, takes a minute until everybody understands what they're supposed to do. And if you want to say, "Oh, it's been, you know, camp feel good. It really hasn't been. It's been hard. These guys are sweating their balls off." Right, and look, they're installing on a new offense, new head coach. So we're getting there. We're getting there. All right, let's take question two here. You mentioned Judon, spoke with us after practice today, didn't really give us a ton, right? They never give us a ton. But when he's been out there, he's been impactful. So he's had a really interesting camp. It's a camp like we haven't seen from a player in New England in a long time. So you've covered this team forever. So you can speak on if there's been things even similar to this, but where Judon sits today, do you think he will be playing game one for New England? I do. I think he'll be playing. Look, if the Patriots wanted to use him as trade bait, which they do not, they wouldn't mind him being off the field. Judon continues to show up. And as he said on Monday, "I'm here. I'm not giving up my money. I'm contractually bound to be out there and playing." So that's what I'm going to do. I think they'll find resolution somehow. They have to. And I would, if it's not a two or three year deal, then some kind of a shorter term contract. I wonder if some of this IU conversation that we have seen passed through, considering whether or not they're going to try and trade for him, not including Judon in that, but just wondering how they're going to swallow up a $30 billion a year extension for IU in any way. Confuses. But I do believe he'll be playing here. I was disappointed today to see him allow himself to go to a podium or decide to go to the podium initially with Joining to Vi and having his questions posed to Vi. And then Judon was whispering the answers. And Vi was like, "It looks like a maturale. Take it seriously. You're a personal corporation. It's not particularly funny. It's not particularly insightful. It's not particularly, look, the media's not in the enemy here. I think Matt Judon's getting a pretty fair shake generally from at least the Patriots, Patriots, Beat media. So, you know, just continue to behave maturely and don't treat it like middle school stuff and everything will be fine. So, I was disappointed to see that. I was happy that it only lasted the first two or three questions. Who knows to Mike Reese for being the adult and immediately saying all joking aside and getting right to it. Because, I mean, we're just doing our job. He's just doing his job. We don't feel like covering a contracted path. We really don't. So, just shoot us straight. We can get the weep out of your face. Again, it's hot. Let us get home. All right. No, it's not that. No, it's where to go. It's not that. It's not hot. It's just will treat you professionally. You treat us professionally. Everybody moves along. It has nothing to do with the heat. I'm not jumping on it. Right. No, of course. I'm hot. But, you know, treat the whole thing professionally and it doesn't have to turn into some foolishness. Right. And then it's less of a big deal, too, right? And I think that that's one of the things that fans have been worried about is that you have this first year head coach and you have this veteran player who's arguably the best player on the defense. And the conversation is more about that than the development at camp. And turn it into a sideshow. The last thing you need, and that's why Bill Belichick did an excellent job of quarantining situations and not allowing them to be sideshows. You'd have agents spout off. You'd have players spout off to selective media. Sometimes I would be that guy. But generally, he would quarantine it from the distraction at a podium. Absolutely. All right. Last question here for the three and out segment here with Tom Curran. Drake May, Jacobi Bursett, Bailey Zappi, and Milton. You know, the camp has been up and down for May. Bursett has really emerged as the top guy. To no surprise of anybody here. Heading into the first preseason game, what's your read on what the quarterback reps are going to look like? And where do you sit right now with the QB situation, how that room looks? Yeah. The second part first, which leads to the answer, when Gerard Mayo had his first press conference, he said that Jacobi Bursett is the most pro-ready. He didn't say the best. He didn't say strongest arm, pro-ready. That was the definition. And I think pro-ready means the things that we've discussed, for instance, was stop the only the other day. Can you get in and out of the huddle? Can you articulate what the play is? Can you get out of bad plays? Can you run the mechanism of the offense? Do you have command? You got to do those things before you can throw off platform and find jama bull. So pro-ready means that Jacobi is that. Not only that, but he has shown more than enough arm strength, command, toughness, decision-making, and resilience to say, okay, I got this. Not forever, but I got this. So Jacobi Bursett is, by far, the most reasonable starter for the Patriots, and May continues to have days of improvement. And I think that's that's great. I'd like to see one series, if that for Bursett, give the rest to May, and then Milton, and then a cameo, you know, I give a quarter and a half to May, if I was doing it, Milton all the way to the fourth, and then Bailey's happy. You? I'm in on that. I was just off the top of my head. No, I want to see as much May as possible because the thing I keep saying to people, you can't really figure out what Drake May is in this type of setting, right? Because it's not game speed, and he's a gamer. Like everyone in my life that's a North Carolina football fan, and I randomly have a few. Yeah. They're like, that guy is the gamer of all gamers. I trust my life with that guy. I trust my children with that guy. They love him. So I want to see him at game speed. I can't wait till the Eagles are here, and to see them in joint practices. So I actually am really looking forward to Thursday, more so than I have for a preseason game in a really long time because I want to see that guy at game speed and try to prove something, right? So we'll see what happens. Absolutely. And I appreciate you having me on Tom, and I look forward to talking to you again. You're doing a great job, Mike. I appreciate it, Tom. Thank you for joining us here on the Six Rings and Football Things podcast. We'll be back tomorrow. Andy Hart returning to the mic. Okay, real talk. After you buy a new house or a car, you're usually swirling an excitement. 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Tom E. Curran of WEEI and NBC Sports Boston joins Tom Carroll for a quick “3 and out” segment on all things Patriots Training Camp. The guys discuss the impact of Judon’s contract situation after he spoke with the media after day 10, the current state of the Pats’ QB room, and how things at practice have differed under Jerod Mayo compared to 20+ years of Bill Belichick.
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