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The power of plant stem cells for health and longevity, Jennifer Payeur | Nathan Crane Podcast
everybody welcome back to the podcast excited today to have Jennifer payer here with us we're going to dive deep into plant stem cells what they are what their benefits are why you need to know about them and where to get them and what they can do to help you with your health and vitality and longevity. Jen what's up thanks for coming on the podcast super happy to have you here. I am so excited to be here with you Nathan. I love your plants in the background yeah yeah plant you got to have real plants got a real plants in the house you know NASA study in the window so yes the love plant. I talk about this NASA study you know all the time because we need clean air in our homes and you know there are other studies have shown indoor pollution in homes and offices is often worse than polluted cities even being outside like New York City with lots of pollution for example indoors are actually worse in many cases so plants living plants NASA found out that a study on that one per every 100 square feet in your home will clean up most those VOCs volatile organic compounds toxins off gassing from you know clothing and fire retardants and carpets and formaldehyde in your cupboards so got to have plants real living plants in the house super important. Absolutely so you you found a company called Nature provides which is a plant stem cell company I want to kind of get into the details about that you also have your own you know incredible story of overcoming a life-threatening health issue I'd love for you to share some of that as well but let's talk about plant stem cells what you know what are they what are plant stem cells specifically yeah plant stem cells are the undifferentiated part of the plant that sits in the merit somatic tissue and it's very similar to a human stem cell so it's before it becomes a leaf or a root or the bark on a tree it's that that undifferentiated cell in a plant and plant stem cells come from the new growth on the plant in the springtime so if you go outside in the spring and you see all the buds on a tree most of the plants come from trees the stem cells fit in that bud that hasn't opened yet on the tree yep so they're in the buds if I go outside right now we've got actually I've got a little um like a come-quot tree which you know a few weeks back or a month or two ago had the little buds that have since turned to the little fruits now but those little buds is where you're finding the plant stem cells that's exactly where you're finding them and those plant stem cells will contain something called juvenile phyto hormone so juvenile means young right phyto hormones light hormones in the plant that help the plant do what it's do to grow to expand to clean itself and it only exists in that new growth phase of the plant so the minute that the plant starts to produce chlorophyll or that bud starts to open up it starts to lose some of those active principles or healing properties so it's a very very small slice of time where you can actually collect these to use them so how did you discover plant stem cells why did you you know make products based on them and what's unique about them compared to just using the whole plant itself yeah so the way I discovered them you mentioned I had a major health crises in 2015 I had a pretty serious diagnosis and three years later I was on my way to a recurrence all of my cancer markers were arriving and my natural pathic doctor was very concerned about it it's not uncommon for recurrences to happen and I was visiting a friend whose husband was a doctor and he came out with a bottle and he said Jennifer this has saved a lot of my patient's lives and you know I said oh that's great what is it and as soon as he said embryonic plant stem cells I felt like I was for quite lightning is the only way I had goosebumps all over my body and I looked at him and I said what is it I need to know and I became like this dog with a bone just you know insistent that I know more about this even though I knew nothing about it right but it was it was a divine I don't know a divine intervention if you will and so three months later I went to a week-long immersive class on learning about plant stem cells now let me preface that with I'd been using essential oils and working with essential oils and plants for years so I knew why Rosemary did what it did for example I understood chemical constituents and plants and how they help heal so I had a pretty solid base and turns it out I was in a class full of doctors and I knew more about the plants than anybody else in the room which was pretty cool so a week-long immersion and on the last day the man who was teaching the class said I'm writing a book and I'm going to be selling the business and here came that same bolt of lightning if you will that same divine intervention so I I went to the airport in Hawaii and called my husband I said I think we're going to be working with plant stem cells and he said what what are you talking about and and that was it so what was really odd is that in a week-long immersion class there were no products to work with so it was really a head emergent not an experiential and I'm a very experiential learner yeah so I came home and I called up the guy and I said can you put me on a protocol my cancer markers are going up I'm not interested in repeating what I've been through already and two months later my cancer markers normalize and then I started noticing other things you know the calcium score where you're looking at your your arteries and plaque and your artery I did that test it came back with zero so I just started noticing pretty big changes I noticed my appearance changing my eyes were getting brighter I started having more energy so that's how that's how I found that the company is I ended up essentially buying the assets of somebody else's business that had been around since 2006 and it was a very very small you know small business it was basically his patience and from there I'd gotten a message that part of my mission was to get these out to the world what was what was the cancer you were diagnosed with I was diagnosed with stage 4 metastasized breast cancer so from breast cancer stage 4 I mean that's that must have been incredibly scary hearing those words right this was win what year 2015 2015 and so did you go through all the conventional treatment is that or what did you do to treat it the only conventional treatment I did was surgery so I did do surgery and then I did all of my treatments at a holistic clinic in California oh well and so hyperbaric oxygen chamber high dose vitamin c eboo or a sound called eboo where they take your blood out oxygenated put it back in your body radiated it cleaned it so a lot of holistic modalities yeah I mean that's huge and so you and did you get to a point of no evidence of disease where you cancer free yeah how long did that take it took about a year that's it that's huge and this in the um what did the oncologist originally say after surgery that they also recommended chemotherapy and radiation yes that was the so I saw three doctors here in North Carolina where I live and they all wanted me to do chemo and radiation and I was very clear I I had enough knowledge at that point to know that I had an immune system issue and I had a toxic burden issue and my spidey senses went up and said wait a minute chemo therapies mustard gas that's not going to help either one of those in radiation we know causes cancer that's not going to help so I became really clear within and I did a lot of soul searching and meditation and my family was appalled they really wanted me to go do the conventional treatment and do what the doctors were telling me and it was very clear that wasn't my path um have you heard of PEMF therapy for cancer well this podcast is brought to you by Dr. Pollock and he wants to share with you the groundbreaking research of post electromagnetic field therapy in the treatment of cancer studies show PMF therapy can help control the cancer process and give safe non-toxic and non-invasive symptom management PMF therapy may enhance other cancer support and treatments lower inflammation and promote tissue healing studies show it's 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the united states and are recommended by top doctors everywhere a lot of the colleagues i work with functional medicine practitioners that work with patients with all kinds of diseases are recommending mezon beljansky's products to their very own patients as a special sponsor of this podcast mezon beljansky has included a very special discount offer for all of my listeners you can get 15 percent off your first order using the promo code nathan and you'll always enjoy free shipping when you order four products or more you can grab your wellness products today at mezon beljansky.com that's m-a-i-s-o-n-b-e-l-j-a-n-s-k-i mezon beljansky.com and use code nathan for 15 percent off it's amazing that you had the knowledge and wherewithal to be able to reflect and make that decision and obviously you know chose the right decision for yourself yes nine years later nine years this month actually what do you feel was at the underlying root cause of your cancer you said immune system issue which we know is directly related to cancer we know that you know with the thriving immune system dr. tom has loaded side at best and uh in my interviews with him years ago in my documentary you know there is a cure for cancer it's called a fully functioning immune system and if you if your immune system is doing what's supposed to you wouldn't have to worry about cancer and you know he's he said that many times and we know how important the immune system really is at keeping cancer at bay and you also said toxicity you know we know that really any major disease including cancer is really caused by one of two things it's either excess of something or deficiency of something and very often both right excess of toxins excess of stress excess of of you know dysfunctional you know relationships excess of food excess of you know lethargy or sedentarism i should say you know in deficiency deficiency in self-care deficiency in nutrients deficiency in minerals deficiency in what our bodies and minds actually need to thrive it's really two things excess and deficiencies right so you said you know deficiencies of nutrition or or actually deficient immune system and you said excess of toxins what do you think was really at the underlying root cause stress i think it's so underrated uh in you know i i was i was traveling from east coast to west coast every week so sitting on a plane and i had really been doing that's hard i did that once it just did that and now you know one time and it's like my circadian rhythm was messed up for the last two weeks it was crazy yeah so messed up circadian rhythm i was traveling i really had been traveling most of my corporate career since i was 22 going to europe going to west coast traveling all over but in this case at that period of time i was traveling east coast to west coast every week i was working 20 hours a day how was that even possible i mean really sleeping three hours a night um but i you know i would land in california i would go to the closest health food store i would buy all healthy food take it back to my room and then i go into the office you know on monday morning so when i was diagnosed all of my peers were freaked out because i was the one getting up at five thirty exercising every morning in the hotel gym i was the one eating healthy i always brought my own food or bought it so i know those two things were not factors but maybe you know this when you fly you're being exposed to math amount of radiation or later on it's like smoking ten packs of cigarettes or a hundred packs of cigarettes it's a lot each time you're you're going cross-country so you know lots of unhealthy habits as far as high stress not enough sleep traveling every week messing up my circadian rhythm and i think that was at the the root of my getting sick it definitely um makes perfect sense i mean you might know i produce an entire documentary series called concrete cancer the missing link where we go in depth in the science in the case studies and dozens of doctors and scientists on that exact fact that underlying core cause of cancer of stress of sympathetic overload of just you know constant chronic hammering on our nervous system that down regulates our immune system and allows the perfect environment for cancer to to grow and thrive and so i mean you unfortunately had to learn it firsthand the hard way as many of us do yeah and it's it's a problem right with this kind of world we live in where and i went through this early on thankfully or earlier in my life of like i got to work 20 hour days i got to work seven days a week i got to be as high-powered executive i got to show up every day i mean i literally sometimes would work two days straight all day all night all day all night and then finally sleep and it was like it was like a freaking zombie and it doesn't take long of that before you start feeling terrible right where it's just like your energy goes down you drink more for me it was more red bulls more coffee more stimulants you know because you don't get enough sleep you feel terrible and it's like well you got to get up you got to get going the energy yeah i won't ridiculous i mean i started feeling i started having nervous i mean i started having a system break nervous system breakdown you know within like a year and a half of that like it didn't take long for me to where i got really sick for like two weeks and i'm like what is going on i'm never this sick i usually overcome this right away like a couple days and i just in meditation one day it just hit me i mean i was like 19 years old 20 years old and it was like you're killing yourself with this job and and i was getting i was getting promoted again for like the fourth or fifth time i was going to be like the youngest regional sales director in the country for a tea mobile retailer and i i went to that meeting and and turned it down and i quit you know a six-figure income at 19 years old and i was just like i can't do it anymore like it's going to kill me you know it was just too much and i wasn't eating healthy and i wasn't you know it was like bad food plus everything else on top of it yeah i was eating like breadsticks and eat pizza every day i was like about it carbs carbs and more carbs well and super processed and lots of cheese and junk and sugar you know um so i was on track for cancer diagnosis for sure um and you know that's thankfully you discovered it and you made a change for yourself i'm sure what do you do with your job did you hang on there much longer you know one of the most important things i've learned over the years in helping many people get and stay healthy is to help them shift their mindset into thinking of themselves as an athlete no matter their age whether they just walk 30 minutes a day in the mornings for example or they play sports for fun on the weekends or they go to gym a couple days a week no matter what your activity level if you think of yourself as an athlete then 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No that's when I finally said okay you know it's time for me to step away from this and do something else and I had no clue right I had been in finance since I was 22 years old but luckily I had had a previous health crisis in 2008 where I had mono bronchitis tachycardia shingle pneumonia and was finally diagnosed with chronic fatigue and that was a no-weight and that led me to a whole bunch of healing modalities where I went to a four-year healing school. I studied two years with the indigenous grandmothers you know I've talked about that before Florida bio favorite people became yoga certified so I had started unknowing to me I had started building the tool in 2008 for me to be able to handle and make good decisions in 2015 and I think you're really lucky Nathan that you had meditation you know I didn't start meditating until I was in my 40s so you had it at 19 and you were able to get that insight you know I think as a society we you know a lot of us don't have those tools right first of all to go inside and we've been taught to disconnect from our body you know you're an athlete I was a huge athlete I played really pretty competitive soccer and volleyball until I was 40 and so I had learned you know no pain no gain you go out there you get kicked knock down you're you're taught to get back up and keep going and so when I was diagnosed my lymph nodes were the sides of golf balls I mean literally I had these huge lumps in my neck and I was overriding everything that my body was telling me right because that's how I had lived my life and so I think it's really awesome that you had meditation to help you shift and get out of that and realize oh my gosh this can kill me it's gonna make me really sick and that you didn't have to get the two by four yeah exactly I mean I had two by four in other ways but you know I was really blessed and lucky I thank god every day and I do know that meditation is a lifesaver that meditation is the solution to all of our life's problems that I was really lucky at 17 where I had gotten the the two by four I mean you know from homelessness and addiction and alcoholism and near death at 17 I mean it literally was almost I was gonna be in prison or dead by 17 years old and it's between 17 and 18 I moved in with this beautiful family my best friend's parents who were spiritual who were vegetarian who were healthy who were you know would talk to me about meditation and frequencies and and energy and Jesus and Buddha and I and classical music and I actually loved it like I went from this kind of like gangster type lifestyle on the streets of 17 then I'd go to like their house I'd be like you know eating healthy food and talking about Baroque versus classical music you know Beethoven and Bach and we're talking about Jesus and it was like I just would soak it up there was something in my soul that knew that's what I needed and so actually when I did move to California was 2005 I did start just I didn't know what I was doing but I did start meditating here and there little bits at a time and then when I got connected with this Buddhist monastery and I'd go and I learned meditation from them then I would meditate a lot and I would you know over the next few years like I would go from meditating five or ten minutes just trying to like fold my legs because I had no flexibility I couldn't even cross my legs but I wanted to do it anyway it was like one knee was like up here and the other one was like right here you know I couldn't even get close to cross-legged and but I mean I would go and sit on the beach at some points for anywhere from three to seven plus hours just meditating and you're writing and meditating and writing and it it really transformed me in such a huge way over the years and now I've actually added back in and then I kind of you know get busy I got multiple businesses family kids all kinds of stuff going on sports athletics and so in like over the years I'm like oh one hour a day 30 minutes a day 15 minutes a day five minutes here here here you know five minutes three or four five times a day and and I just recently got back into long deep meditations first thing in the morning you know upwards of an hour 30 minutes to an hour and then again at night before bed you know 30 minutes to an hour and it's just there's nothing that can replace those long deep meditations to connect us to God to our soul to the universe to truth you know to download wisdom to guide us in our lives and literally saved my life and and the fact that I kind of got away from it over the last six seven years a little bit you know thinking that I could just do little bits a day yeah you can't it doesn't replace those deep long meditations it just doesn't well meditation is the one time where you get to meet yourself right yeah you with you and it's it's life-changing absolutely life-changing so you learned yoga you learn meditation you learned you know all these things in 2008 you said yeah and then when you were diagnosed in 2015 did you say yeah so you had that wherewithal to basically have you know that was like I mean I call that a divine synchronicity or intervention right like you went through that kind of early health challenge lesson but it taught you the tools you needed and if you didn't make the changes I call it the hammer of life right it's like you get a little bunk on the head when you're not listening yeah you keep not listening it gets harder and harder and harder until it smashes you on the head with like a stage four cancer diagnosis and it's like oh now I'm listening I got it I finally got it yeah yeah and so going to like the cancer I mean to the I say cancer stem cells because I know a lot about cancer stem cells specifically because I'm on the board of directors for the Biljansi Foundation and we do scientific research into cancer stem cells and plants that are showing effectiveness against cancer stem cells so cancer stem cells are the thing that chemotherapy radiation don't get rid of so you can target the cancer cell you can kill it you can remove the tumor but they don't kill the cancer stem cell and so we need solutions that target and actually kill the cancer stem cell because that's like the mother cell right that's a cell that can then metastasize it allow other cancers to grow it can spread and so you have to actually go after that cancer stem cell now we're talking about plant stem cells like 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b-e-t-a-g-l-u-c-a-n nathancrain.com/betaglucan for a special discount today they're absolutely is and plants themselves can actually help with the dna so they can turn genes on and off they'll turn onco genes off and so they'll turn cancer genes off and they'll up regulate the good genes so that's one of the things that can't that plant i'm saying cancer stem cells that plants stem cells can do and they help with the micro RNA so some of the plants have those in them they regenerate things that are broken down in the body uh they're anti-aging so they do so many great things in the body and they're so compatible there was a great research article written in 2018 where the quote was that plant stem cell may be one of the most important things for human health yeah really really great article the first article i found on plant stem cells that was really really fun so is it similar to like we know that if you sprout seeds if you sprout plants and you eat the sprouts right versus the full plant that that sprout has significant like broccoli sprout for example or sunflower seed sprout and you just get the sprout and you eat the sprouts it's significantly more nutrition in that and less you know what people like to call anti-nutrients they're not technically anti-nutrients but it's a conversation for another time um less supposed anti-nutrients but higher overall antioxidants and nutrition in a sprout in a baby plant versus a full grown is basically just like the same concept as that is that is the exact analogy that i use broccoli is healthy and broccoli sprouts are healthy but there's much more nutritional value and we know it's a whole four thing which is fabulous for cancer and broccoli sprout um so they're just much more potent and the other thing that's interesting is just like us as human beings plants get weathered right so as they age parts of the plants start to break down they accumulate environments in the toxin you know they can uh accumulate toxins in the environment they accumulate heavy metals when they're outside right and so you don't have any of those byproducts if you will in the plant stem cells how many of the plant stem cells have been studied so far in terms of like what they do like different plants and their different stem cells like where are we at in terms of scientific research on that yeah going back to 1959 there are about 70 plants that you can find in most of the literature that have been studied and we have about a hundred that we work with um trying as much as we can to do more research uh filmed with documentaries but that's going to be coming out around Thanksgiving we we took some uh that's that called uh it's called ancient with the modern healing okay and where can we find that when it comes out uh i'll let you know i don't know yet okay we're editing the film ancient with modern healing and i'm also writing a book and so the goal is to have both of those launched at the same time in November okay we took a group of doctors and practitioners to Italy because all of our plants themselves come from the Italian outs so they're away from being sprayed by anything away from pollution the grounds are sacred and you go up the mountain you see statues of you know different deities you see Jesus Buddha mother Mary so very sacred lands and so we took a group of doctors so they could see the whole process and we had a couple filmmakers come with us so we got some fabulous footage of the entire process soup the nut from picking the buds all the buds are picked handpicked and you know there's something to say um you know the the phrase cooking with love that the intentionality that we have that energy goes into whatever it is that we're consuming and so you know from hand picking the buds to the maceration process there's fajiric in nature are you familiar with fajiric budgie budgeric budgeric fg y r i c it's an ancient alchemical process where they take the plant material they burn it and they put the ash back in because you're getting all of the minerals and all of the oligo elements of that plant so when you are extracting active principles out of a plant you're extracting them either with alcohol or vinegar typically yep but you don't get the minerals from the plant that way so the only way to do that through the bajiric so it's a percensus came up with that technique 400 years ago so that's an important piece that adds an energetic to the the plants themselves wait so the is that the only process or that's an additional process into the additional process so they're doing the normal extraction like what do you do you do an alcohol extraction or what's the organic grape alcohol because they come from Italy yeah so alcohol extraction yeah i've made a lot of my own tichers what we do what i've done a lot like living in Santa Fe into mountains is will wild craft like i'll gather herbs and stuff that I know that are out in the mountains and dry them and then you know put them in alcohol and make our own tinctures which is pretty awesome but i've never done this bajiric process i've i've looked it up here yeah it's it's it does sound familiar but i haven't looked that much into it so you're basically then burning the plants as well getting the ash and then making the putting the ash into the tinctures that you're getting the minerals from the plants right and it's spiralized so it structures it yeah so two pretty interesting discoveries that um that i had in may when we took the the practitioners to Italy one is that the bud contain cellular water so they contain dodecahedron water so these are not dried at all it's literally picking the buds and macerating the buds in their organic grape alcohol and glycerin is added organic glycerin to stabilize um the the tincture if you will and then the other interesting thing that um our scientific director dr canilo uh who lives in Italy discovered he would he had two of the tinctures and he was walking by his lab and he had a blue light on and one of the tinctures lit up and so he put in that he had they have a huge lab there so he put it under the under the microscope and he found these nano dots nano particles of light in the in the tinctures and so you've got this cellular water which if you've read the book the fourth phase of water yes the cellular structured water coming from the buds and then through the spijeric process these nano particles of light and so those two things and we got the seed under a microscope so it's pretty fascinating oh it's crazy they're creating coherence in the body and so when i go back to my illness right as you said there's either too much or too little of something in the body but if you're taking something that's balancing both of those eventually you're going to create coherence in the body because you're out of coherence right something is out of balance exactly and so that's what they do that's really where they shine that's different than an adult herbal remedy if they're creating coherence and they're bringing the extracellular matrix back online so that the body can recognize you know a foreign invader the body can can now go after the immune system is recognizing it yeah that's incredible so that what's creating the light do you know i mean you have a theory of like where the light specifically is coming from in the light particles or the light it's a blue light you said when it's um yeah i have a picture of it yeah let's see that that'll be cool yeah here it is so let me show you so here it is so you see it here so it's it's the spajiric process that's creating that light is carbon nanoparticles of light wow and this is him and again he found it by accident he found it by accident each what's this on the left each bubble class produces about 500,000 photons what is that yeah so part of the process is um spiralizing right so when they did this in the old days they would take two vessels that had a bulb on them i actually have some pretty cool pictures they would tape them together and they would put them on the top of a roof and the condensation would cause the spiralizing right so the water would heat up from the from beating outside it would create condensation and then it would drop and so dr canelo mimicked that process in his lab and so he's showing that also that spiralization process is creating photons of light in the in the picture as well wow so this is under the photo on the right side if we go back is under a no it's okay it's under a blue light yeah so it's under like a blue light it's under a blue light and then you see that where the uh the photons the light particles are actually shining through that vial um right that's incredible yeah and then just one other picture which i think also shows it really well is here is a grouping of cells uh after having the the plant stem cells after taking the plant stem cells and they were looking at these and they wanted to see what would happen and they were taking snapshots and you'll see here at 330 seconds is about eight minutes 572 like nine and a half and 12 minutes so at 20 minutes you can see all of this light coming into the cellular structure can you zoom in a little bit i can see it but if we can zoom in closer it'd be um yeah that's amazing so that those are photons that are entering into the what kind of cells are those um they're skin cells so if we look at yeah the photons entering into the skin cells that's crazy yeah so these were the kinds of things that you know i intuitively knew because i could feel it in my own body what i noticed is my eyes were brighter um my skin looked better i had more energy so i knew something you know was going on at a cellular level and i felt so much more vital and so to see that under a microscope that's cool you know a few months ago i you know i was just so happy because it it you know matched what i had been experiencing personally yeah well i mean you know if we want to go to biblical terms i mean god said let there be light and there was light right i mean in the beginning it's like light is literally you know from a spiritual perspective go back to the Vedas from ancient india you know light is everything at the art of all energy right it is life yes light is in every cell it's in every you know the the opposite of light is void is nothing is darkness and then everything that comes out of the void or the nothing is light i mean that's the essence of every cellular living thing is is that light and we need sunlight to survive we need sunlight for vitamin d hormone production even right we need that light but at a spiritual level it's like the more light that we bring into our lives even metaphorically right love happiness laughter the light that we bring it lifts us up it lifts other people up we feel better i mean light is at the root of everything to so to see that even you know these plant stem cells i mean we know that you know plants also have you know they bring the photons in and and they transfer that light but to see it under a microscope like this actually entering the cells is pretty amazing yeah it was it was i mean just spectacular yeah that's really cool that's really cool so for your healing protocol like what so are you in through all of your kind of natural healing approach after surgery and then and then you were no evidence of disease but then you said your your markers were going back up and so you were concerned and then you found these plant stem cells and you you use them and then your markers went back down to normal yeah everything went back down to normal pretty pretty quickly what did you use like which plant stem cells oh gosh i i used many i was i started with about 20 um so i was taking something called botulinic acid which is a complex it's got the inner and outer bark of the white birch tree and almond hook and it contains an enzyme called botulin and botulin is known to create apoptosis of cancer cells while leaving healthy cells alone and that that is the one that i have the most research on i probably have five or six research you know PubMed article that have been done on botulinic acid so i was taking that i have your i have your white birch here yeah yeah you can see it i started see there's too much light you can't see it but i started taking this in the mornings um so white birch by itself what what is what's it good for it stimulates the cupfert cells it boosts the immune system it's anti uh viral antioxidant and antibacterial nice okay so you're taking betch betulinic acid which has the white birch in it lemon tree which is a pH alkalizer in the body good for digestion i was taking sweet chestnut because i had cancer in my lymph nodes so it's the best plant for lymphatic system and for lymph drainage and clean and out for lymph gosh what else is i taking i was taking so many at the time um oh whole bunch for the liver rosemary artichoke i was taking for my liver and then a couple of other complexes so i really i really worked on every one of my body systems so i was taking hawthorn for my heart which is why i think i had the great calcium score so yeah whole whole bunch of plants so like somebody who is on my camera without a focus when i was showing you the focus here yeah focus on my hand bring in here let's see um sometimes i close my flat yeah right i got to close this and then there you go so um yeah the someone just looking for like let's say health and longevity like do they need to talk to a doctor to say hey you know these are the ones you should take what are some and then like what are things people should watch out for as well and what are concerns side effects of taking plants themselves like these and can you just can people just take anyone they want i mean it's kind of some of this stuff is still like the wild west right so some of it we know some but we don't know um too much of a good thing can be a bad thing so these are always things we want to take into consideration i mean absolutely common analogy common analogy people here is you know if you you could overdose on water you could kill yourself on water yeah that's probably never gonna happen but it's true right as possible so uh well i'm happy to report there are no studies of anybody dying from plants themselves or getting sick and really so for five years i've had this company i have only had two people who have had any type of perks reaction because they're so gentle right so i had two people that were very very sensitive uh one had a little bit of a headache and the other one said she felt a little bit flu like but those are in my opinion outliers for the you know lots and thousands of thousands of people that are working with these uh i'm trying to remember the first question that you asked me yeah like in terms of let's say hey i'm just interested in all the learn about that i'm in all body like just kind of health and longevity in general is there is there blends for that is there blends for oh you know someone's got stomach problems someone's got you know mmm needs more energy right parasites that kind of stuff yeah so plants we know have an affinity for different body systems in Oregon so for example rosemary we know rosemary is good for the liver we know milk thistle good for the liver uh artichoke is also a thistle it's good for the liver so you can know enough about adult plants to know what affinity the plant has for which body part that's number one number two because not everybody knows plants we have groupings of plants or complexes that are designed around body systems so for example we have something called total body detox that is a you know once or twice a year when you're doing your detoxes that's a great product to take and take the whole you know use the whole bottle we have a complex for heart health or digestive health for parasites for the musculoskeletal system so we have complexes if you don't have details about plants and you don't understand how plants work that's a great place for an you know a normal person or a consumer to start we do mostly work with practitioners at uh at nature provides and the practitioners typically have some foundation of the plants and if they don't that's why we do a lot of education is to educate practitioners but we are getting ready to launch plantstemcells.com and that will be for consumers it is mostly complexes with two singles black current is one black current is the best plant for inflammation regardless of where it originates in the body and popcorn is the other one so we do have two singles because there are a lot of part issues going on right now and so those are the two singles and that again is going to be educational and helping people understand how they work why they work etc can you take too much um i can personally answer that i did once i had a um i had a nice and flush like every good personal experimenter and scientist of your own body should you know have that to report exactly exactly i had so black current has enough vitamin c in it that you wouldn't have to take a vitamin c supplement so i could get all my vitamin c and black current in the in the buds of the black current like how much like how much like in terms of like this uh for this one add five to twenty five drops like if i was taking black current and one of these yep i take two droppers a day one in the morning and one in the afternoon and how much vitamin c is that uh that's a good question it's enough that i had a nice and flush when i think what makes it nice and that's how i had you know i have like this much left in the bottle probably four droppers worth and i was like you know let's go ahead and pour it in here yep and all of a sudden i broke out in that heat rash all over my body uh so that was too much for my body for sure um but that's a good question i will ask dr canelo that yeah it's good to know if there that there are certain ones that have high amounts of certain vitamins right i mean vitamin c is one of those things though that you can take massive amounts and certainly it's used in clinics all over the world and super high dosage especially in intravenously i mean you know you can take you know grams and grams of it some doctors even give hundreds of grams worth which is you know massive amounts because of its you know oxidant oxidizing capabilities um you know we're always so focused on antioxidants antioxidants antioxidants but actually oxidizers like chlorine dioxide vitamin c these things actually technically bring oxygen to the body you know which you know an oxidizing can help increase your body's ability to destroy unhealthy cells you know uh like cancer cells and that's that's something we do once why we do exercise we create more oxygen in the body you know that's why prana yama and breath work can be so valuable it would bring in more oxygen to the body chlorine dioxide you know incredible uh i recommend people read dr andres kalka's book on that which is you know bringing oxygen into the body it's not chlorine it's not what you put in your pool it's totally different not the same chemical consideration but um yeah that extra oxygen in the body helps fend off cancer cells yes it sure does yeah and i think all plants have some level of bringing oxygen into the body right that's why they're so good for us yeah so knowing you know vitamin levels and things like that in the different products would be really really interesting to know we've identified the different minerals that are in there you know i can tell you which plants have copper etc and you know we even have i don't know if you know a lot about the copper iron dysregulation i took a class called the root cause protocol with a guy named mortally robin become a dear friend of mine and copper is what regulates iron and for 50 years you know they've been putting iron into our food anything that says enriched with right not good for us and i was donating blood about every 10 weeks or so just to help get the iron out of my body and then i was a practitioner who was using black poplar and so he buys it by the caseload because black poplar also will chelate iron out of the body so at that point you know we started doing more studies to see what what actually you know what minerals what oligo elements are in here they're flavonoids terpenes all kinds of things so they really do contain really the whole genetic makeup of the plants in that good form yeah that's incredible yeah that's a good point there too just don't start taking lots of supplements and you know just because someone talks on the interview oh yeah most people are ironed to fishing any more iron or right most people are B12 to fishing anymore B12 or it's like no do a test and see where you're at you know because a lot of people actually like you said have excess iron because it's in so many different things and supplements and i've gone through my supplements before and i'm like wait a minute here i'm getting like way too much iodine this has iodine this has iodine this has iodine it says iodine i'm like i'm way too much iodine and you know it's kind of hidden in a list of like 50 ingredients and that's why it's like i've been reducing those over the years of you know less less less ingredients in this case less really is more also getting majority of nutrition from our food is yeah is foundational you know supplements are there to supplement not to replace a healthy diet right well and i'm a classic example so you know when i was diagnosed i was taking 120 supplements a day you know 40 at breakfast 40 at lunch 40 at dinner has taken a lot of good things but because i had really never addressed that toxic burden in my body i think i wasn't absorbing you know all the great things that i was putting in so you know you're absolutely right i i have a clinic here in north carolina and i see a lot of people and dr google has become you know blessing and a curse i mean it's great that people are empowered to go look things up and do their own research and i highly advocate that because i believe we're the caregivers of this body and only we know right that it's important for us to educate ourselves about our own body recognized the signs but there's a lot of misinformation out there too and you know have somebody come in and all of a sudden they're broken out in a rash and you know be perplexed and then i asked did you add anything oh yeah i added these six supplements you know and they're not connecting the dots that so it's really imperative that you know that we do the testing that we do the blood test we understand what's going on in our body before we just start dumping in a bunch of of dietary supplements you're right dr google is a blessing a curse if you know how to use it it's a blessing if you don't it's a curse i can tell you if you just google something the first few things that come up almost always are not going to give you even close to what the truth is that's what i've found i all anytime i want to learn something new i always have to dig deeper i have to get more specific then i go to the research journals i go to pub med i'll go you know read articles i'll look at the actual scientific journals like if you want to learn something that's the time and energy you have to put into it if you go what you know our plant stem cells good for you and then but whatever you know the leading in uh financier is and whatever who is saying whatever cdc is saying which is definitely not always the truth clearly not always the truth uh that's usually what you're going to find in the first is people go oh it said right here because they don't even scroll down plant stem cells are not good for you or whatever right it's like you have to go in and do the research and unfortunately most people don't have the time the wherewithal or the desire to do that and that's why it's important they talk to people like you like me like our teams like the doctors we work with and get deeper understanding because we do this research you know it's like we talk to the patients we read the research we look at the studies we dig deep and actually try to find the core truth and even that's changing even we get really really close to the truth and then something new comes and adds some new element of understanding which is what science is about it's about understanding it's not yeah it's not about definite like this is the definite core truth there's nothing it's like no here's some more science he goes oh maybe it's more complex than that maybe like with quantum uh science that now we have a go oh maybe actually your perception changes everything about what you're looking at you know your perception your belief system so many things right yeah so that's you know it's awesome you're doing this education for people um and that website is launching win in the next two weeks what's it called what's it gonna be called well this will be this will this should air by the time your website's launching okay plants stem cells dot com plant stem cells dot com that's gonna be like free education or how is it yeah that'll be free education and we'll have the book on there and the documentary on there as well so that people can learn more fantastic plant stem cells dot com so i want to go back to a couple things here if you don't mind like so black current you said it's really great for inflammation hot thorn you said it's really great for the heart art yep helps with afib with any irregular heartbeat we had a practitioner in california whose father had had two heart attacks and had a carotid artery issue and so he put him on hot thorn and while before they had a chance to clean out the carotid arteries his heart actually developed new arteries to be able to move blood through his heart wow which is pretty amazing you know that's the regenerative part of the plant stem cells that they actually regenerate things that have broken down in the body and so then they were like oh do we actually do this carotid artery you know uh procedure and put stinson and he decided not to and you know a couple years later he's still thriving he heights every day 85 now which is pretty amazing so yeah hot thorn is a is a really amazing plant what do you like for liver detox either artichoke or rosemary i mean milk thistles another one but that's you know so prevalent on the market in regular form yeah yeah same with dandy lion um you know lion yep there's a lot of good liver detail yeah milk thistle what about um what about juniper yeah i used to just pick it's a little fresh juniper when we were out in the mountains um exactly and just kind of you know chew on it a little bit it's really very bitter but yeah very bitter well you know it's funny all of the liver tinctures are all bitter exactly and if you go to Ayurvedic bitter is connected to the liver yeah so and what about celebrity toxic artichoke rosemary and what about like digestive issues fig is one of the best plants for digestive issues my husband used to be on a meep result for acid reflux he's been off of it now for years since taking fig so fig is one of the best care away is really good for digestive um yeah i tell people that have bloating and things like that you can go chew on fennel seeds and caraway seeds and you can you know diminish the bloating and the issues you're having what about sleep sleep um valerian is one uh that's very well known some people some people have kind of negative right it's a valerian one of those yeah some of some say that valerian can make you groggy so linden tree i have found it's the silver linden tree it is absolutely the best to calm the nervous system and help sleep um that's one that we use a lot with kids who have ADHD sleep issues can't calm down before they go to bed that's one of my all-time favorites nice linden tree silver because silver linden tree california poppy is the other one yeah california poppy we don't know where what that turns into right isn't that way to make heroin out of or uh no um there's no heroin in this all right good yeah no the california poppy it's um no but if you take too much it actually can in a drug test i think can show up right as a um what's the mechanism um opium opium yeah there you go yeah yeah it's it's i mean it's a natural you know opiate relaxer right but you're not going to get correct high and then the other one is passion flower passion flower is the other one passion flower yeah that's a good one i have i have some teas that i'll drink sometimes they have like valerian and poppy and passion flower in it yeah so all those are great for the nervous system and to help with sleep nice awesome well i'm excited you're launching this new website for the public that's going to be great so people go check that out plant stem cells dot com um doctors can connect with you at what um at your other website yep gen at nature hyphen provides dot com gen at nature hyphen provides dot com or your website is nature hyphen provides dot com yes awesome and for you Nathan mountain pine because you're an athlete mountain pine is one of the best plants for knee issues back issues but how'd you know i just do and then i would pair that for you with virginia creeper which is for the connective tissue and then what about and then what about with um what was the one that you said was really oh black current for inflammation black current for inflammation yep mountain pine virginia creeper black current any others well the one that i sent you the white birch also and then there's another great plant grapevine so grapevine contains a lot of resveratrol which we know is good for us right um so it's the vine it's comes from the vine that the grapes are grown on and so phenomenal again for structural issues in the body one of the best plants for building up the immune system so that's one of the other plants when you were asking me what i took i took a lot of grapevine uh to get my immune system back up the par and um also one of my favorite plants very cool well i got some uh i got some products i need order from you then so looks good um well thanks so much janice is awesome thanks for coming on the podcast this was uh super fascinating and um excited for everything that you're doing and all the education you're bringing to people i mean plants are miraculous they have you know the energy inside them to help our bodies heal and thrive and i love that you're working at the plant stem cell level and how much intentionality you're putting into all of the you know the plants from the processing to where they're grown to um you know even the the photons that are in the plants through the ash that's put in there that's that's pretty amazing so so thank you you're welcome it's such a pleasure to be here with you i'm so glad to know you and i love all the beautiful things you're doing this world um thank you thank you thank you everybody we'll talk to you soon take care bye thank you for listening to the nathan crane podcast please make sure to subscribe and share this on social media then head over to nathan crane.com for your free ebook so when we're talking about you know what are these underlying cause and conditions of these chronic diseases cancer diabetes heart disease they all have very similar if not identical causes and that's the thing is when we get to the root cause of these diseases we can not only prevent these diseases from ever happening but empower our bodies to heal from them in every one of ourselves we have tens in hundreds of thousands of chemical reactions that are happening every second that are cycling back and forth and so i sort of a yin and yang and you know for me the soul soul's purpose is evolution it doesn't care about comfort it cares about evolution and so i think so long as we are following our soul then we will evolve and i think what sometimes blocks us from living our purpose from manifesting that next level of our expression is we have not evolved there is also a time for letting go all the expectations and relax and just breathe and be grateful for what you have achieved