Big D Energy Show

Big D Energy | Friday, August 2nd 2024

Sean Baligian and Terry Foster are LIVE from Premier Pet Supply in Livonia talking about the red hot Detroit Tigers, Pistons summer league updates, Lions preparing for training camp, the Red Wings rebuild and much more! Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!

Duration:: 2h 4m
Broadcast on:: 05 Aug 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Join four-time Stanley Cup champion and legendary bad-ass Darren McCarty. And the golden voice of Neil Rule. Monday through Friday, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. As they give their takes on all things Detroit Sports. The number one midday show in Detroit is on. Welcome to Big D Energy. It's a Friday. And, like, honestly, do you know what it says? It's a Friday more than all of us having a conversation 10 seconds before this show started. About sister Jean and whether or not she's still alive. I have good news to report. She's still with us. She is still with us. Damn. She is going to be, what, 105 viewers? 105 in just a few weeks. Damn. In August. That's the next. If I get an invite, I'll be there. I'm familiar with Loyola. What kind of party would they have to do for 100 bucks? It's perfect. Nothing too loud. I know that. It'd be over at six. Right. Yeah, I don't know. Still got my whole night. I'm going to keep that my stick. They have the radio blasting it. Decibel 1. You're right. Be playing songs from the four of these. I tell you, I'm an old person, but old people, they like the party. When I was younger, I was at the Super Bowl. We had to stay at a hotel where there were senior citizen dance. So we went in there, peeked in by mistake. Oh, man. We met a senior citizen's dance, so we turned around to leave this old bra. I swear she was 85. Grabby by my arm and say, "You ain't leaving yet." You haven't danced with me yet. Oh, my God. That's like a movie. Yeah, I was. I danced with her. Get in there, right? Get in there. Get in there. I was with that. I, when I was a manager at the Grand Travers Pi in East Lansing, there was this. You were a manager at Grand Travers Pi? Grand Travers Pi in East Lansing, the one right on Grand River. Spinning it around. My, there was a lady that used to come in every morning. After her power walk, she had to be, you know, 75, 80 years old. She was a fox. Silver fox. I would offer free pumpkin bread all the time with her quiche for it with her all the time. Like, I would knock her down. You can't do it. You can't do it. No, no, no. Did you follow it? I did not. You gave it up? No, I gave it up. If it came to me, I would have liked to have him, but I wasn't going to pursue it. That's how I, that's how I did. Hey, hey, y'all need to get your, your world rock with a old one. You know what? That's very, it's man. Okay. So seriously, the youngest guy in here, who's the youngest guy? I'm a guest. Justin. Yeah. Okay. You're the, is there an age limit for you? Is it? And I'm serious. And if you don't want to answer, I don't want to put you on the spot. I'll answer. But shout out to my girlfriend. I am happily with it. I don't know, probably like 65. That might be a little aggressive, but like, I mean, Selma Hayek is, is like that old and she's, bro, she's bad. I'm 65 and I'm not messing with any 65. I mean, it has to be like the unicorn of 65 year olds, I'm saying, like, I'm in terms of like a broad audience. It's probably got to be below 50. Justin, you're what? 22? Yeah. All right. So I'm five years older than you. We're at different wavelengths. I'm proud of the streets of Birmingham looking for 80 year olds. Yes. Better. I do. I do. I do. I do. Sugar bomb. Sugar grab a baby. They're right. But the mama's got some money. Yes. He's spending easy sugar. They're not wrong with that. Yeah. They're not everything. You know what? The million dollar man said it many years ago. Everybody has a price. You damn right. Everybody's got a shot too, because they like the shovel food. Exactly. I'll hold to carry your groceries to your Benz grandma, you know, my son. So he went to DePaul. And when he was 19, like every other 19 year old kid, he had a fake ID. And I, you know, many years ago, I worked at a bar and I've seen some of the worst fake IDs you can ever imagine, like where you're just like, this is so bad, I'm going to actually let you in. Right. Like you deserve credit for having the audacity. I looked at my kid's ID and I was like, dude, this is good. The technology has really improved. But he called me from the bar, you know, St. Patrick's Day is a big thing in Chicago. He called me from the bar and he's like, Dad, I got this like 38 year old woman that wants me to go back to the apartment with her. And I'm like, okay. Right. And what's the problem? Yeah. Is she hot? Yeah, but she's 38. So I'm like, dude, my age, Terry, like back in the day for me, and I don't know if I can speak for you guys, when I was 19, that was the golden unicorn. Oh, yeah. Like, Siri, wait, whoa, hold on. I got a 38 year old hottie that wants to take me home. Yeah. That could be learned. We're unbelievable. Now he passed. But that's what I told him. I said our age group and Terry, you know, you know, he's going to get, you don't get a home cook meal. Damn right. Yeah. And, you know, nature. It's a dessert. I'm saying one. That's what you get. I spent a night or two in Oklahoma for a, from a, from a nice elder lady that I, that took your home from the bar back in my days of these lands. The assisted living place, that's your story, right? You know, like same kind of deal, like early forties or any day. What do you mean? Yeah. She looks good. She looks good. Get out. All right. Let me give you young fellas a little history lesson. It's Friday. Did we mention that? It's Friday. I think they already could figure that out. What we're talking about. The women in their 20s? No good. Overrated. Yes. Overrated. Okay. They know they fine. They don't get anything they want. A little, you know, a little standoffish. You get those women in the 30s? Oh man. Yeah. They don't rock your door. They know what they're doing. Yeah. They want to rock your world, bro. And then at some point in time, like in the 40s, it's, it's almost like, and you never know when it's going to happen. It's, it's almost like they, they go back to the 30s and they want to prove that they're like they were in the 30s. Yeah. Trying to keep up. Yeah. You know, which isn't true anymore. And I can say that as a male as well. It's just like, you're just kind of like, okay, I had a good run and, and everything. But yeah, it is fascinating because to me, Terry, art, my group, that was the Golden Unicorn. Yeah. You, you got a girl in the 30s, even the upper 30s that that was like, okay, this is the thing. Stiffler's mom type of stuff. Yeah. Right. There you go. I mean, that, that was like, that's the golden calf, man. You got to hit him with the miss. Yeah. Excuse me. Miss man by your drink. All right. Yeah. It works. I don't know. I'm gonna buy you a drink. That's what you can get from somebody. I remember, because I was young, I mean, these young broads be like, um, we were at the bar one time. Then someone said, which one of you fine general is going to buy me a drink? And I was with, uh, what's up? That's it. Must be him. Because I'm not buying anything. Damn. Damn. Terry. She must have been a dude. You know what the cool thing about it, like she might make your dinner, but you know what the cool thing is? The first thing in the morning, you know, she's going to say, get the hell out of my house. Yes. Thank you. What? Thank you. They put you on the walk of shame. Yeah. That's the best part. It's the best part. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm out like at four or five in the morning. Yeah. I just get up. I'm going. Oh, if you, if you don't have to tell me to go home. And if you can, if you can make the Irish escape, that's all. Oh, yeah. I'm going to get them going to the bathroom and then you get the door shut here. I'm the woman. You know what's going to happen at four AM? You're going to have that bad breath. Yeah. You're not going to want to go home. Her ditches out. Ditches out. Her ditches out. Her gums are throbbing. And that breath was kicking. Yeah. You want out. She wants the dentures out. I might be thinking something else for a few weeks. I think I was spinning. Make me get me out of this. Let me tell you something though. All jokes aside and which one of you guys, Justin, maybe it was you, all jokes aside, like women have changed, like, you know, back in the day. You said a six, Jane Seymour, she's still smoking. She might be 94. I don't care. Yeah. But she got 20 pounds of makeup. That's fine with me. That's fine. And she got the creeper race. Oh, yeah. Crapy breath. Yeah. Yeah. It's a ball. Crapy. It's real though. Yeah. I have no idea how we came. We went from sister, Jean, and you're already a sister, Jean, to all of this. Which one are you going to knock it down, sister? Who gives sister, Jean, a shot? What do you want to do? All right. What do y'all not get it down? I don't want to do it. All eyes just turn to Justin. Oh, no. What do you got? What do you got? How do you like it, Mo, bro? You and Jesus, your friend, sister, Jean, might get into that. Yeah. Honestly, triple digits would definitely be a bucket list. Yeah. That's in the bill. It's bad. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. You know if you kiss her? Just to say you get it. No, bro. If you kiss her, she will die right on the spot. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to hurt her. There might be charges. Like, seriously, like a voluntary manslaughter, a good-looking young lad like you, that might be... What did you do to sister Jean? I just gave a little kiss. Guilty. You guys. I imagine that's how she dies though. Like, that's her. That's her. That's how her run ends. That's how I want to go out. What do you mean? If I'm... If I'm 100 years old, it's some 22-year-old Howdy came up and kissed me. I'm ready. Why? It's all right. Holy shit. That made me Jesus. Oh my gosh. Silly dog. Can we restart the show and everything? Yeah. Let's go. Can we just do the whole open again and everything? Yeah. We can do it. Let's go to break first. Big D. Let's read. We didn't even say like, "By the way, I'm Sean. He's Terry. We're in for Darren McCarty and Neil Rule." Well, lots to talk about, you know, it was great to see some football. I know it's fake football, but it was great to see some football. So glad you could join us on a Friday morning here on Woodward Sports now. Sean, we got to talk about them kickoff rules, man. We do. We got to get to those. We got to talk about them. But first, let me tell you guys about Dyspo, because Dyspo dispensary is not only your local cannabis plug, but they give you a free $10 for the purchase of $25 or more. Scan the QR code right there and show it to them. They've got the best app, the best product, and the best locations. My favorite location is the Romeo store, Michigan's only cannabis mall. 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Make sure you go there for all of your merch needs. We've got Tigers. We've got Lions. If you want Lions gear for the upcoming season, go to shop.winbertsports.com. We're trying to move on. So somebody throw something out there. So throw something out there. No. The conversation's right now. The conversation's right now. They're just persisting. We'll leave it at that. Yeah. I want to tell my story, dammit. I was a central Michigan at the bar and a rose of tears in front of my face. I turned around. This is brunette. 31 years old. Yes. I want to go to airplane. That's it. Yeah. But the only thing that was troublesome is she lived a little bit outside of Mount Pleasant. And you were brother. You don't want to be outside. No. You don't want to be outside in the higilance up north, because they're going to get you. They're going to get you. They will. Very good. You got a honeypot. Mine. I felt safe in Mount Pleasant. Once I went outside and there was no light to anything, and you're seeing Kyle. Why don't they believe in street lights? I've never understood it. There's no cars. Why would you have street lights outside the city? There's no need to. I guess. That is, if you guys ever driven in the UP, like there's nothing. There is nothing. And I was stuck in a driving rainstorm. I can't tell you how many times you hydroplane and you're just like, "Wee!" I mean, there's no street lights. You can't see where the puddles are and everything. Waiting for excitement? Chumba Casino is here. Play any time. Play anywhere. Play on the train. Play at the store. Play at home. Play when you're bored. Play today for your chance to win. And get daily bonuses when you log in. So what are you waiting for? Don't delay. Chumba Casino is free to play. Experience social gameplay like never before. Go to Chumba Casino right now to play hundreds of games, including online slots. Bingo. Slingo and more. Live the Chumba Life at ChumbaCassino.com. P-T-W Group, no purchases are employed, prohibited by law, c terms and conditions, 18 plus. I'm going to get you. That's I still can't get you. It's like that seat in Waterboy where the guy's going to kick. Remember, he's the guy who's like, "Where are you going, boy?" Hey boy. He boots a 50-year-old. 50-year-old. You go. Right? Oh, fantastic. They don't get you, man. That's one of those movies I swear every time it's on, I end up on Waterboy every single time it's on. Great movie. Family sits back and is like, "Seriously, you're watching that again?" It's a classic. I leave it on all Bobby Boucher's outstanding, right? It's timeless. It is. It's timeless classic. It is. Same with Happy Your. Yes. 100 percent. Is it just me? How many of you guys watched the game last night? I always make the point to watch a Hall of Fame. Yeah. I watched some of it. I only watched it kick off highlights. It's football, right? Because that's all I wanted to see. But it's football. Yeah. It's like, I guess... Fake football, man. It is fake football. By the way. But I think with everything that's going on with the Tigers right now, and I'm sorry the Olympics just aren't grabbing me, it's been that way for a long time. I just... I don't know what it is. You like the Smoombiles? I watched some of that. I watched some of it. The Turkish shooter guy was pretty funny. Yeah. You know, the... I don't know if you guys know the story. He got pissed at his soon-to-be ex-wife one day and just decided that he was going to go out and start shooting things. No. And he's like a natural. And so he goes out there. And he goes out there in his T-shirt and his jeans and he's just shooting crap and no emotion. And he goes out and he wins a silver medal. Wow. He has no training. You know, all these dudes have been doing this since they're like five years old. He picked it up a few years ago while he was going through a divorce. And then of course after he wins the silver medal yesterday, he goes to his ex-wife. By the way, I want her dog back. Uh-huh. Like, dude, you're just... You're a assassin. Well, you do a lot of things when you're angry, man. No, yeah. And all the rest of his competition, we're wearing, like, all the equipment. There's, like, these special goggles that help you view in on the targeted stuff. He just went out there straight, raw dog, and he was like, "Yeah. Watch me sling that shit real quick." Gotta respect it. And he won the silver. Yep. And he won the silver medal. I'd appreciate that. Right? I mean, tip of the cap for that stuff. But you know what? With football coming back, and I'm with you, it's fake football. I'll be all in for the Lions. I just can't stand, you know we're gonna go through it good, better, and different. People are gonna turn these games into something that they aren't, because they are, as Terry said, fake football games. By the way, not that I'm keeping track 22 days until we can actually watch real football. Yes, sir. But here's... Don't attack Florida State. Maybe let's go! Here's the issue that I have with this Hall of Fame game. Doesn't it seem like every year there's a weather delay? Yeah. And there's lightning and storms and... Wait, you know... Every single year... God is saying, "Get this shit off the air." You shouldn't be wasting your time watching this. That's why the field is flooded every year. There's lightning. God is it? Get the hell out of here. Yeah. Go do something else. God's been talking to a lot of people this morning. He talked to Justin. He talked to Sister Jean. He's been talking to a lot of people this morning. But not, you know what, honestly though, I'm happy to see football. I'm at that point, I'm a firm believer that especially last year with what was going on with Michigan football, everybody knew that this could be a special season for the Michigan football fans who knew it would turn into what it eventually turned into. Everybody knew what the Lions season could be again for once, Terry, for once the Lions actually exceeded expectations, I mean, they did last year. That just doesn't happen. It was the first time someone would say Detroit Lions that I wouldn't snicker after they said the word, because they're legit things. They're for real now. But I think that's what kind of hurt a guy like Terrick Scuba, because if you weren't all in last year on the Tigers, you probably didn't even realize that Terrick Scuba developed into one of the best pitchers before our eyes. And that's even before this season started. My opinion, I think a lot of people at that point with the Tigers right now, okay, finish up the string. There's really nothing that interests me right now about the Tigers. I know Spenny said, well, who's going to pitch? I could go fire a couple of Knuckleballs. I could go all Wakefield and throw two days worth of Knuckleballs, and I'm not going to blow off my arm, but. I think the rotation should be Riley Green, the Kinstry, it doesn't matter who they throw out there. Pause. Yeah, don't put innings on the arms of any pitcher that you want. There's no reason right now, there's no reason. This is tanking the rest of the season, that's what it's going to be about. I want to ask you because the guys in this room can't really relate to this, and I brought this up a couple of times, but it would be good to bounce it off a guy like Terry who had a front row seat for this. Terry 1992, heading into that season after the Lions went to the NFC Championship game, we know what happened against Washington, the expectations that year were sky high. And I've heard some people who have been longtime lion fan saying, man, I just worry that we're going into the 1992 again, where the expectations were sky high, they turned around and went five and 11, if you remember game one, some guy named Jim Harbaugh, I don't know what became a him, threw a touchdown on the last play of the game, Tom Waddle, if I'm not mistaken, beat the Lions, and honest to God, it set the tempo for the whole season. Terry, the difference this year is the Lions haven't lost two integral parts of their offensive line heading into the season. Eric Andelseck, of course, his tragic death, Mike Utley being paralyzed. I know people still have that feeling, like you said, of Detroit Lions, Snicker, Snicker, okay? Have they proven to you that this is a different franchise A and B, is there any fear that you see the 1992 play itself out? No, it's not, it's not going to happen again. Here's, here's some other things you have besides the tragedies of 1992. You had a clown coaching staff, 100%. Wayne was just, Wayne Fance was just happy, go lucky, having a good time. They had popsicle breaks during training camp. It's true. Yeah, it's true. And now Dan Campbell is getting pissed off at him when they don't execute in like the second padded practice. So there's a big difference, but Wayne was like, oh guys, you've been working real hard. You just get the popsicles out. They get out. You want grape, you want orange or cherry, that was a big difference. It's crazy. And it was a clown organization too. They just, I'm not going to say they got lucky, but it was just a flash in the pan and you knew it wasn't, well, I knew it wasn't going to last because I knew there was, it was Fools Gold. This is not Fools Gold this year. These guys are really good, they're young bucks too, young dude, they're like 22, 23. My Ross St Brown, he's 24, you know what they call him, grandpa. And so you have, the other thing is the players didn't totally believe in the coaching staff. They didn't totally buy into what they were doing. And they, and even though they had that good year, that bullshit lion's culture was still there. They didn't get rid of it. And I tell you what else they're doing now, they're paying their players. Back then they were still like, I know you're up and we could, you know, we could redo your contract. We're not going to do it. So guys will come in the frantic at all pissed off because they feel I should get paid. Lions didn't want to pay them. Now they, you know, they've already taken care of Frank Ragnow. Pinesis, secure, golf. Yeah. So you don't have to beg for money with this Detroit lion, they're like, okay, it's your turn. Let's try to work it out. Jared Goff. They took care of him. If Jared Goff was the quarterback in 92, he never would be extended. Never. Never. Never. Never. You know what the difference is too. I mean, Terry's spit and facts right now, the, um, the perception of this franchise from the players perspective, not only was it like that then, but 30 years later, it's still like that. I mean, the scars from what happened 30 years ago, you listened to some of those guys and I am not going to name any names. Terry, I'm sure you've, you know, you name them. Listen, some of these get, they don't want to come back. They don't feel welcome. They still bear the scars of some of these brutal contract negotiations. It is downright sad and I'm talking, Terry, I'm talking legends. Bro, that's why you lost Barry Sanders. Yep. Barry Sanders, you know, even though in the stupid documentary, they didn't really get to the real issue. Yeah. Barry's pissed because they screwed Kevin Glover, his center. They, uh, Chris Beelman, Lomas, Lomas, a whole bunch of dudes, you know, why are you saving the money? What are you saving it for? Yeah. You're making millions and millions and millions of dollars. You got a team that's good. So why piss your players off? You know what is funny? And I hope that you guys, the younger guys that are here, take this as the compliment, I mean it to be, okay? So many guys that I know, my age group, okay, are terrified to say lions and Super Bowl in the same sentence. It's almost like, here's the Lord again, he's going to strike you down for, for simply suggesting that let alone thinking it, but verbalizing. And to me, that should be the expectation based on what happened last year, that should be the expectation. Terry, I don't feel dirty about it. I don't feel like I'm fooling myself again. I don't feel like this is 1995 where I bought in 100% I bought in. You know, I think the sister Jean Spirit is inside of you. I was sitting back today, but say it. Don't be afraid the lions, I covered the lions for many, many years. I never, ever heard the word Super Bowl in that dressing room. Ever. It was always that. Oh, you know, we can win a lot of games or we could beat anybody on any given Sunday, but nobody talked about championship. The only time I heard it a little bit was when they went on that winning streak in '95. Remember, they went on that seven game winning streak, and then we remember what happened in Philly. But you know what? I respect this about the younger guys, like in a lot of you out there and and spending the boys in here, you guys, you guys haven't lived through what Terry and I lived through. I don't know. I was alive for the millionaire. So just say it. But you don't have any problems saying, yeah, Super Bowl contender, legitimate 100% Super Bowl contender, because I think so many of us literally have that anchor on us that says, well, what about this? And what about that? And what about that? And none of that has to do with the current formation of this franchise. Terry, this is a good franchise right now. Right. And they're talking about championships. They feel they can win a championship and you brought up Matt Millen. You know why they hired Matt Millen? Because he was friends with Willie Clay. He was a good guy. Yeah. He was a good guy. We love Matt Millen. Good guy. He comes in. He talks to our coaches. They have great conversation. They didn't talk about winning. Right. Or football. Nothing. Matt, everybody likes Matt Millen. So the Chicago Bears going to give the Lions their secrets because Matt is a great guy. So the San Francisco 49ers is baloney. Yeah. We went through a whole era. It was really odd. And I had this conversation with a columnist in town and kind of a back and forth about it. Matt evoked her name again. But he was a little agitated at me because I was so harsh on one John Joseph Harrington. And I had nothing personal against John Joseph Harrington. I didn't. It seemed like a nice guy. Yeah. But that was the problem. You know, you know, I was in like John Joseph Harrington. He married you to his teammate and Mary, you to hate it across the board hated him. And it was funny because this this very prominent columnist said to me, we shouldn't be so quick to run a good guy out of town. And it kind of said, and I'll use sister Jean as an example. Now I said, well, Mother Teresa is one of the most wonderful human beings. That sounds like the columnist who's shorter than sister Jean, I said, Mother Teresa is one of the most wonderful human beings alive today, maybe arguably whoever walked the face of the planet. I don't want her running my West Coast offense. Yeah. It was such bad logic. But unfortunately, Terry, whether people want to admit it or not. And you mentioned you were around for the milling era. We heard that at every turn. Yeah. Well, okay. This is a problem. Well, he's such a good guy. He's from Iron Mountain. I don't care. He's from Allen Park, like this isn't working. And people would argue about Joey Harrington and argue about Matt Millen. And well, you know what? You add that all up and you know what happens? It all culminates in 2008 and going on 16. Yeah. We're right. Marinelli at the Hill. Right. Like, come on. What are we doing? What a nice man. Yeah. I was doing a story on Joey Harrington, your boy. My boy. Well, I had to talk to Steve Maryucci about him. And normally when you ask about any player on a roster, they'll say something nice about him. Yeah. Well, you know, he's got good breath. Or he's got great hair or anything, just to say he's good. He's a good player. You know, he throws a good deep ball. He does something else. Steve Maryucci went like this. He had nothing good to say about his starting quarterback. That's crazy. I'll never forget. And I'm sure you were there when Mooch got fired. And what were the guys talking about? The guys in the room. The guys weren't talking about how their coach got fired. You know what they're talking about? How Joey Harrington got their coach fired. Right. That was a real thing. Yeah. I mean, it was, hey, and I go back just a few years ago, I'm serious. Talk about 2019. I remember going to the room with Loma's Brown one time and walking in there and I swear on the Good Lord above, it was like walking into a funeral home. I remember that Sean. Yeah. Listen, it's the first week of November. There's two months of football left and all these guys already have one foot out the door. The season's over time. You didn't look down on the floor. You know what else you would have seen. What's that? It is Ryan here and I have a question for you. What do you do when you win? Like, are you a fist pumper? A woohoo. A hand clap or a high fiver. If you want to hone in on those winning moves, check out Chumba Casino. Choose from hundreds of social casino style games for your chance to redeem serious cash prizes. There are new game releases weekly plus free daily bonuses. So don't wait. 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Hated them for years. I kind of like them now, but I had no Lions gear. I only went to games if I was working because it was just such a Mickey Mouse organization and they've changed now. They should be talking about going to the Super Bowl. You know, this stuff about Green Bay, you know, I'm reading the little magazines now. I said, well, Green Bay should be favored in division. Bullshit. The line should win the division. They should beat San Francisco. They should. This is the year. Yeah. This is the year. Love it. Don't be afraid to say it. All right. We'll talk a little bit about Ben Johnson talking up the defense. I don't know if you saw or heard some of the things he said, can I sing a song now? Say it loud, super bold and proud. I mean, I can't move like you, but don't be afraid. Say it loud. Say it loud. All right. We'll get into that when we come back. So glad you could join us Friday morning. It's Terry Foster. I'm Sean Beligia. This Woodward Sport. 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I have two dogs, love them to death, man, that's a spot. If you're looking for something, I mean literally it is, it's a shopping, it's a shopping set. It's incredible. So we're just talking about this, and I'm going to bring it up. So I'll get to Ben Johnson in a second, because I'm a firm believer that the best conversations and shows like this happen off the air. Okay? I am, I am. We got to repeat them. And I'm not, I'm not going to use the word, because like, of course, we're on Fox two. I am somebody who has been saying, we're not on Fox two, you can load it flat. Fuck the bears. I've said that. I've said that for years. When I was working with Joy, I said, Joy, I love you, I'm always going to be a fan. But when you became a member of the Chicago Bears, that fuck the Bears umbrella covered you too. So when I say fuck the Bears, that includes everybody, including you. Can I say fuck Chicago? You can say that too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, they had the pisses and bulls right with the women in the bulls. Damn. They were mean to me. Damn. I mean, it worked. Like, what are you doing here? It's cold. Here to cover practice. It was rude. As soon as they found out you from Detroit, and you're like, get the hell out of here. Help me out, because I am, I am somebody I liked. I like to try to call up the slappiness in this town too. All right. I'm a firm believer. It's, it's my job. And that's why I've always tried doesn't mean I'm always going to be right. I'm not always going to be right. But sometimes we get a little carried away with things. Okay. See the 2021 Detroit Lions. Anybody with half a brain in their head knew that that team wasn't going to be good. And Brad Holmes kind of designed it that way. And that's why he got the two extra picks and if we suck this here, maybe that's not a bad thing because we get an extra high pick. But everybody in their brother was screaming, lions limo, man, we're going to the playoffs. Okay. This hype about the Chicago Bears right now, I'm sure I don't get it. The Packers. Okay. I'm with you. Dangerous. They showed it last year. Jordan Love dangerous. Don't be a slap deck and try to take away from that. We saw how that guy came on. The Chicago Bears have just been put together. Okay. That's first and foremost. Secondly, and most importantly, they've got a rookie quarterback. Yeah. Like, knock it off. Are you new to this NFL thing? It doesn't usually work real well, Terry, for rookie quarterbacks in the national football. They're so excited. They got rid of Justin Fields. They think they bring in anybody and you know, Chicago Bears have had great success with quarterbacks lately. Ha. He mitched for Bisky. Ha. Justin Fields. They just run them in. Run them in and run. Caleb Williams. I think he's the talent guy, but they could run his ass out in a couple of years. Are they dangerous? Yeah, you could make that argument, but they were dangerous last year because of Justin Fields. And I think Justin Fields proved that against the Detroit Lions on more than one occasion I might add. But I think this trying to put the carp before the horse stuff with the Bears right now. I don't get it. I really don't get it. And so, I mean, you guys in the room, am I off base here? I mean, what's your level of fear of the Chicago Bears? I think there's no fear of the Bears this year. However, for the next four to five years, I think they're going to be very dangerous. I look out and they could win this division over the next four to five years. But this year they got the rookie quarterback. It's a bad organization. I'm still shaky about their coaching staff. Yeah. Not happening this year. I'm right there with Terry 100% I see the vision for the plan for a couple of years. I think they needed a couple interior alignment, but once they get those interior alignment and they fix the rest of the holes that they have next two, three years, I am scared. No, you know what, I'm going to strike you off the battle. Shut up. The reason you say this, this is my fucking wants to go visit sister Jean in the next two to three years because I'm going to see the Bears in the playoffs. Yeah. Right. He's going to go see sister Jean. Well, do I care about the Bears being in the playoffs? Dude, you don't fuck what I travel there because you want to see sister Jean that has been established. That was something that's been established earlier in the show. And he's kind of thinking to himself, man, in a couple of years, one oh seven. Dude, can you man walking into the place and going, dude, one oh seven. Top that knock. I'm not sure it can be done. Right. This dude, the ladies sheepishly was saying, excuse me, you know, I use effort dent. He like so Terry, that's just it in the cart before the horse stuff. I think really applies for the Bears. Yes, I like the moves that they made. Yes, I understand that they're heading in a different direction and even though I knew their coach years ago when I worked at Toledo, is he a head coach is definitely in play, make no mistake about that. But far be it for me to accuse Chicago people of trying to put their teams on a pedestal that they don't belong. I think that's something that in particular Bears fans have done for many, many years. And the problem that I have, and this goes back to Justin, you and I were talking about this the other day about the Red Wings. Sometimes now looking inward and putting the microscope on us, sometimes we have a tendency to set back and say, it's all about our team and what we did and not pay attention and say to yourself, now wait a second, there are other teams in close proximity, perhaps even in our own division that have been doing it the same way and maybe have meet more resources to do it than we do. And I think we're running into that with the Red Wings a little bit. Yes, what Steve Eizerman is doing is going like this. Yes, it's the smart play, but you know what's happened simultaneously? The Buffalo Sabres are doing it. The Montreal Canadians are doing it. And all of a sudden you're seeing these names go way up high on the list of prospect pools. And I think that same dynamic is happening here in Detroit. We've been waiting so long. We've been so desirous for a legitimate franchise. And don't take my word for it. Trust me, I've known Terry a long time. If Terry Fucking Foster tells you this is a legitimate franchise, you know by gosh, it's a legitimate franchise. Because that's the last guy that's going to say it, trust me when I say that. So with that being said, we have to remember, hey, guess what, the Lions aren't the only one they're building up, sort of the Packers. And the Packers are a really dangerous team. Me personally, I wanted nothing to do with the Packers last year, nothing. Lay off time, I wanted nothing to do with the Packers. And the Bears won't not at that level yet. Guess what, they're doing the same thing that the Lions are just finishing up. This is a team that eventually is going to be just not yet. I think this is a two horse races here. Yeah, it is, but here, let me defend Chicago Bears fans from this standpoint. In the back of their mind, okay, they see the Lions are up there, but they don't really believe that the Lions are going to sustain it over a couple of years because they look at the history and say, okay, they had a cute season. Yes, they were dangerous, but they're not going to do it again. Right. So when you're a Bears fan, you look, okay, got to worry about Green Bay. We can beat Green Bay and the Lions cute story, but they're not going to sustain it. So that's where they're coming from. I think they're full of it. Pinch a little. They're very cute. Pinchy little cheeks. Yeah, they just say all the little Lions are cutie pies. Ooh. Unfortunately. Yeah. That one's seven games this year. You have to prove it. And that's, you know what, the one thing that I like about this, this franchise and this coaching staff right now is, yeah, you can do camp happy times. Yeah, you can hold hands and sing. Everything is awesome. Don't hand out any damn popsicles, okay, please, but I think and you hear it starts with Dan Campbell. Both things can be true. I can talk up how this player or that player or this unit has stepped up. But at the same time also acknowledge now they have to prove it. Now I want to see how ferocious this secondary is when the opportunity provides itself. And that that's what I like about these guys because of course you're going to talk positive about what's going on with your team. But the flip side to that is now sometimes everything's not awesome and these guys have to prove it on tape. And that's, I think, Terry, what we're all waiting to see. We are. But I will admit this. I am buying into the Terry on Arnold thing, although I don't believe rookie cornerbacks can be good. We're on the couch together, Terry. I'm just believing this, brother. We're on the couch together, Terry. Yeah. Remember, we're on the couch together. And I'm on the couch next door without a straight stroke. 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Justin's getting a truck and driving to Chicago. He's going to plant those seeds to his sister Jean, baby. Hey, sister Jean, you need a mattress? Look what I bought for you, sister Jean. I can take my shirt off and put it all out for you. You are not going to die that young man shirtless. All right. We got a lot left in the show. We got to figure out new and inventive ways to enter Justin and sister Jean into the equation. If you guys in the chat have any thoughts, we can do that as well. As I mentioned, we do want to get into Ben Johnson talking about the defense of upgrades. Dan Orlovsky ranking Jared Goff, fifth in the NFC at quarterback as well. Lots to do. He's Terry. I'm Sean. This is Big D. And let me tell you about Lady James, because awesome is when a guy can be a guy and get an amazing haircut. That's Lady James haircut. That's for men, stop and sit back, relax, and let the Lady James talented stylists make you look and feel great. Open seven days a week. 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And let them know what Woodward Sports sent you. Dude, so in case you missed you yesterday, and Terry, I'm going to ask you because you're the real legitimate journalist in here, Gen. Peace. How much of what you hear in camp do you really take in and say, "That's the video." Where's the filter, so to speak, when you hear some of these coaches and some of these players talk? I would say 75 to 80 percent. Because in training camp, everything is great. And everybody's good. Everybody's just giving their up. The best shape of the career, the offense looks great, the defense looks great. And I'm going to say 80 percent because this team is legit. Now, do you know when I heard the Lions had the best practices? I remember 4-0 and 16. You got it. Every time we go, "Hey, how's it going?" The best practices ever. Don't forget, 4-0 in the preseason, and you want to know the last guy I talked to, their last preseason game was in Buffalo. I talked to Cliff Avril, and I said, "They're 4-0 in the preseason," because that's a cliff. If somebody looked at your tape right now on the Detroit Lions, what would they see? He said, "They see it leaping off the tape," because they use tape back then. And that's how good we are. I'm like, "All right, I'll load it down." Cliff Avril says that tape is leaping out of it. And this is out of space stuff, and they go, "Oh, and 16." But I'm going to say 75 percent because everything isn't great, no matter how good you are. But I'm going to give them the benefit of that, or most of the stuff. I'll piggyback on what he said. You know what I'll never forget? Matt Millen used to walk around and glad hand and hug everybody, and he was your best friend. And that, if you remember Terry, that summer, he was very quiet. And then he came out, and very quietly, with his beard. Remember, he grew that beard, and he said very quietly, not like Matt Millen. He said, "Well, in the past, I've talked a lot about this team. I decided this year I'm going to let this team do the talking because we really like what we have here." Oh, they did. And boy, did they do the talking? Oh, did they do the talking? No, they were mine. Yes. Right. And I always use the analogy, it's like, you know, the Legoland movie. Everybody's just skipping around singing, "Everything is awesome. Everything is cool when you're part of the team." So there is a filter that you have to use. Whether you say 80%, whether you say 50%, there is a filter that you have to use. And I think we have to all be cautious. But when you hear a guy like Ben Johnson saying this about the defense, how much of it do you take in? How much of it do you think is legitimate in case you missed it, Spenny. Here he is talking about the defensive upgrades. I mean, I think it's across the board to be completely honest with you. Up front, Aiden and Aleem, as you would think, "Shoot, we tried to double team Aleem the other day. We could barely move him off the ball." You know, he's got a low center of gravity and did a really nice job on us. The second level, those guys are all coming back. I mean, between Ansel and he's, you know, he's seeing our mic point, this, that, and the other. And he kind of knows what's going on at this point. So we're going to have to start getting some dummy calls on him and keep him honest. But obviously the biggest adjustment has been these corners. They're coming up. They're pressing us. They're challenging us. And we need that type of work, the more one-on-ones we can get in practice with the pads on, they're going to be helpful for our guys releasing up versus press. But these guys are fearless. They have a swagger and some mistakes that they were making early in camp. We got them on a few deep balls, you know, before the pads got on. They've cleaned that stuff up. So you see him improving every day from the back end. All right, of course, that's Ben Johnson. And listen, again, please take this in the context in which I'm seeing it. I'm not saying that he or anybody else is sitting up there bullshitting with y'all. I'm not saying that, okay? And I like to hear that they're given the offense a run for their money. I like to hear about Aleem McNeil. I like to hear those things. Don't get me wrong. But Terry, this is where we go back and say, all right, there's maybe already a concern about what's happened at the edge. Now you got the Kaminsky situation. And this is where I say how much of that do we actually take in and go, okay, this, this could be a really special unit. I think I'm going to stick with my 75 to 80% legit. I don't think they're going to be a special unit, but they'll be better than they were last year. And I don't, I think it's more difficult to be a special defensive unit in today's NFL because of the rules, you can't put your hands on anybody, especially if you're DB. So I just don't think special defenses exist anymore. But you can be a pretty good defense. And I think the lines are trending towards being a pretty good defense. One thing they've talked about consistently over the last couple years is being violent. That means they're going to knock your head off, they're going to be after the ball. Because one of the things the lines didn't do for years, they never turned the ball over or they never made people turn the ball over. They would just try to tackle you and you can't do that in the NFL. You've got to create turnover and chaos on defense to be successful. If you don't do that, offenses will move the ball up the field at the very worst get the ball deep in your territory with a kick a field goal or they'll back your offense inside the 10 yard line. You got to take the ball away. And I think this year's team, not saying it's going to happen, the focus is going to be get the football back and give it to our offense. I love to hear you say that because not that long ago when people like me said this, it was heresy, and you had all the three year lettermen at Lavonia Stevenson or Westland, John Glenn going, what on earth do you don't know anything about football? This league has changed. The rules of this league have changed. The way the game is called has changed. Okay. The defense wins championships line. It isn't real anymore. Not the way that they punish defense is a Terry said, he's 100% right. So you know what you do. I want that opportunistic defense. I want that defense. It's going to get the ball back and put the ball back into my quarterbacks hands. That's the kind of defense that I want those ball hawks because that's the reality of the league today. I'm not saying that I like it. I kind of miss those smash mild defenses. It was a blast to watch the Ravens. It was a blast to watch the 85 bears. But that Terry, that's our league today. That's the national football league. They are punishing defense, it's a period. So the only way you can succeed as a defense is to punish the offense back. Yep. That's snatching that ball away from knocking the tire out of somebody. Yeah. All right. So you know what else? There's no such thing. Everybody says, oh, you know the lines, they need to shut down cornerback. They don't exist. There's no such thing as a shut down cornerback in today's league. You can be good. You can have more success than failures, but you can't shut anybody down. The way it's called today, you know, like I always use Deon Sanders as an example. Okay. Deon Sanders was a shut down guy. Guys didn't go on their side of the field. His teammates were the guys that had six, seven interceptions, whereas Deon had one or two because guys weren't going that way. You have too many guys and too many patterns running all over the place. Now, man, that's just the way it is. You could still be one of the best in the league. And I would love it if one of these guys developed into a guy that not just us around here, but you know, you're watching the talking heads on ESPN. You're seeing people on Twitter going, Hey, man, look, look, and I looked at all the numbers. My man's a stud. He's one of the best in the league, but Tara, I'm with you, shut down corner. I think that's a thing of the past. Yeah. And we see a thing with the lion's offense. This is third and seven. You know they're going to Amman, Ross, Saint Brown, defense knows they're going to him. Everybody in the arena knows they're going to go to him on third and seven. So what do they do? They go to Amman on third and seven completed for nine, 10 yards first down. Let's keep going. Yep. All right. 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You know, we've been around for this is when you're talking about some of these position battles. It is Ryan here and I have a question for you. What do you do when you win? Like are you a fist-pumper, a woohoo, a hand clap or a high-fiver. If you want to hone in on those winning moves, check out Chumba Casino. Choose from hundreds of social casino style games for your chance to redeem serious cash prizes. There are new game releases weekly plus free daily bonuses. So don't wait. Start having the most fun ever at Chumba Casino dot com sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. Look number three wide receiver and you take a look at the names and you've got legitimate talent in there. Yeah. Terry, how many times over the years did you and I sit back and you know, they were talking about, well, this guy is up for this gig. That guy's up for that gig. And you look at those names and you're like, Scottie Anderson, like is this real? You know, again, I cannot say enough about what Brad Holmes has been able to do to build this roster with talent where you could sit back. If you say you think this guy's the clubhouse leader, Justin or Spenny, any of the guys you say that guy's the clubhouse leader, I'm not going to look at you and go, okay, you're crazy. No, like, like, get it unless you bring up Tom Kennedy. But other than that, you know, I mean, that's what I'm talking about. If you're talking about your number three receiver, I don't know who that's going to be. You're in pretty good shape. You're not talking about one or two, you know, I talk about the alignment, you know, I talk about offensive tackles. You talk about who's going to be the number three receiver. That's a hell of a place to be in. Wonderful place. Speaking of which, Ben Johnson had some comments about just that. You have a lot of different guys with different skill sets, it seems like, is there a particular blueprint that you look for in a third wide receiver at this point? Yeah, we've been pretty consistent as a staff really since we knew that Josh Reynolds was leaving us and that has been, we need smart, we need reliable, okay? And if we had to be picky, we want a little bit of length, okay? Just so it rounds out those three guys that we're anticipating entering the season with. So with that being said, we're charting every single day, who's the most reliable, mental errors, who's catching the ball, who's dropping the ball. These guys see it. They get the feedback every single day. They know what's going on. They know they're in the midst of the battle right now. We got a number of guys competing for that spot. Reese has certainly come on so far in training camp. His physicality, his explosiveness has shown up. Antoine Green is still pushing on along here. We see growth from the springtime. We just need to see the consistency that we've been hoping for from him. DPJ has made some big plays for us. He had a big block just the other day in practice that we took note of. And we know what Khalif Raymond is, like he's not to be overlooked either, because he's going to be a big part of our offense as well. So the competition is healthy. Those are a few names, but everyone is in it at this point. All right, so I asked all boys in the room, Terrell, I'll ask you as well, if you have a favorite. I get to that momentarily, but Justin told me something that makes my tummy hurts. Stick around for that first, but it's Benny, I'm going to start with you. Is there a guy that you got to circle around and you're saying that's my three? I think it's Dury's fountain. I do. He's a big body guy. He's six to two hundred, you know, two hundred and twenty pounds. You put him out the edge. He is the guy in camp that's been making the contested catches, the 50-50 balls, the big plays in the end zone. And when you look at what they need out of a wide receiver three in this offense, the wide receiver three is probably the fifth option in the passing attack. So you don't need someone who's going to be getting 10 targets a game. They're going to be getting three, four targets, maybe a game. So having a guy out there that you don't have, that big body, that jump ball threat, I think it's him, honestly, I think he's leading the clubhouse right now, and we'll see obviously for him pre-season is going to be huge to see him out there in live action. But I would say he's leading the clubhouse right now. All right. Go around the room. All right. If I had to pick, I would say Kaleef Raymond, just because they know what they have in Kaleef. He's a guy that can move the chains, find holes in the zone and make big catches. But I think they take more of a committee approach, you know, to the number three role. Like Spinney said, when you have a, a Myra St. Brown, a J-Mo, a Sam LaPorter, do you got Gibbs out the backfield? The wide receiver three, they're, they're really not, they're not going to see that much action. But if they use a rotation, you have guys like DPJ, Doris Fountain, Antwine Green. So yeah, I think they're, they're in a good spot regardless of who wins the job. But I would say Kaleef Raymond. I'm, I'm in on the committee. I just think that there's so many ways that you could split it up. They all are versatile. They all bring different things to this offense. You have found who's an ex receiver, you have Kaleef Raymond, who's a, a slot receiver, and then you have a freak athlete in DPJ, and that's not even mentioning Antwine Green. So I just feel like there's a bunch of versatility in a bunch of different roles that you can use. And it's, it's plug and play. Whoever fits better for that play, that series, even if it's who's hot, who's playing well? Yeah. I just think it's going to be a committee. Taryn, where are you leaning? I'm leaning towards this. Spinney. God bless you. You fail for the flavor of the month club, there's always a dude in Lions training camp is like, where do you come from? He's been released four times. It's true. And Scottie. And it's always the, oh, this guy is the second coming. We developed him. We don't know where he came from. He's great. And then you never hear from him again. Like Dylan Drummond. I'm just thinking of Kaleef Raymond because he's at least playing a lead in the drumming. It is what you're describing. If you guys don't remember this name, there was a guy named Scottie Anderson that, that for two years, Matt Millen tried to tell anybody that would listen. He was forget about like, forget about just being a good receiver. That what this guy does in practice, he, he's the, the practice warrior. What was the, the, the training camp warrior and everything? And my goodness gracious, every time that guy got on the field, he looked completely lost. And again, there's a reason guys like this kick around the league a little bit. And that's not to say that a guy can't find himself after a period of time. Okay. Chris Carter was a guy going way back in the day. That was a mess. And a lot of it was, you know, it was the self-inflicted messed up. He was a clown. He's a clown. And, and you know what? Once he figured it out, it was like he became one of the best wide receivers in the national football league. I tend to agree with you, Terry. There's a reason that a lot of these guys kind of kick around. I mean, these NFL people kind of know what they're doing. And the chances of a dude falling between the cracks, they are very high or maybe found himself. Who knows. It's always possible. I just know this franchise always pumping somebody up and then man, don't, next stop camp. Well, and, and to that point, to that point, I think there's a reason why a guy that's been kicking for a while was kind of kicking in the USFL a little bit. Uh, I think Justin has some more on that, Justin. So today out of camp, shout out Jeremy Rizeman for the information. Thanks, Jeremy. Big German. Jake, Jake Bates was eight for 14 kicking field goals. He seemed to be struggling from the 40 to 50 range and then he was only five for seven on extra points. Whoops. Damn. Whoopsie Daisy. That is not good news. Maybe it's because it's, it's a monsoon out there. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the ball is slippery. I don't know. All right. Isn't that what people have said about Jake Bates though? Like to me, if, if you want to, if you want to end, um, what people are saying about you, well, then end what people are saying about you because nobody, nobody was complaining about the length. Dude can bang them. I mean, he can bang them. He's 50, 60. No problem. And this is an era now where Terry, it used to be a big deal. Not that long ago for dudes like you and I, if you could hit 48 yarders, wow, man. That guy's now you're routinely seeing dudes hit 55, 56, but hasn't that been the book? Um, Mr. Bates is, yeah, he can hit those long field goals, but he might go eight of 14 from 25 to 45. He might miss you some extra points. Again, there's a reason why a guy like that is kind of kicked around and found himself kicking for the Michigan Panthers. Right. And you know what? I would have, I would have gambled too. Once I saw the 62 64 yard field goal, I said, let's why not because it hasn't been working here before may as well try. You know what? You know what? I would have signed a few years ago. Pick a licious. Remember him? Oh, who can forget? All right. I would have tried him. Harvin Ruggland, right? Yep. He never made it out of can't miss. He was going to change the way that the kicks are taken in the national football league. No, it is. It is amazing though. You know, for as much as we talk about the passing game and how much it's changed. I mean, guys, I can't tell you when Dan Marino through 48 touchdowns and over 5,000 yards, that was earth shatter. And the fact that it didn't really happen for another, what, 25 years? If anything shows to me exactly how earth shattering it was. Now this field goal situation, Terry, just like that. Dudes are routinely hopping out there, Matt Prater, 55 yards, no big deal. Guys are hitting from 60. That's shit that didn't happen. Like not that long ago. That's not shit that happened. So I get it and I'm with you. I'm not saying that it's over for Jake Bates. I'm not saying it was stupid to try him. But for all the talk about the 60 yarders, dude, if you're rolling eight for 14 and that was kind of the knock against a guy. I don't want that guy on my team. It's time to look elsewhere. It seems like gambling Dan Campbell's back. He was going to do that. He may try a 65 yarder one, but he won't trust him from 35. It knows die hitting that die. All right. Um, I want to hear where you are at with Jared Goff. I don't care who you are. You got to give the guys flowers. You have to. All right. Spenny, you and I talked about it yesterday. I was one of those guys, Jared Goff was a throwing in the Matthew Stafford deal. Absolute throwing, right? He wasn't going to be the quarterback. To me, it was all about the fix. What made that pick or what made that deal extraordinary is you got yourself a pretty darn good quarterback in Jared Goff and a guy who's comfortable where he's at because they put him in positions of comfortability. Is there rage is there anger over Dan or Loskey ranking Jared Goff gasp fifth best quarterback in the NFC? We'll get into that next. He's Terry Foster. I'm Sean Bellagian. This is what we're. 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We'll be there next week. It's Feldman, Michigan's number one Chevy dealer. All right, welcome back in. Glad you can join us, 12, 15 big D energy, Terry Foster, Sean Bellagion, we're in for Neil Rule and Darren McCarty. I don't know what the vibe has been on this. I didn't see a lot of people talking about it, but I'm going to have to lean on Spenny about this. Spenny, Dan Orlovsky came out with his list of the top quarterbacks in the NFC. In case you missed it, he had Jared Goff at number five, am I supposed to get worked up over that? Are you supposed to get worked up over that? I think the notable things in the list are that he had Matt Stafford at number one in the NFC and above Jared Goff, he had both Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Ahead of Jared Goff. So that's what people are up in arms about. And Kirk above golf, but he retracted that statement on ESPN yesterday. Yeah, so yeah, he had both Jordan Love and Kirk Cousins above Jared. Jared was five. Kirk Cousins is four. I think Jordan Love was three. Who is three? Jordan Love. Okay. Where's Dak Prescott? He's not on the list. Dak Prescott was not on the list. Good. I believe Jalen Hertz was number two, and then... Jalen Hertz was six. Jalen Hertz was six. Brock Perdy and Matt Stafford. Brock Perdy was two. Yeah. Which is, you know, it doesn't matter to me. It matters to me, and Jared Goff run this often. Yep. Is Jared Goff going to go six or eight games without a turnover? Or is he going to go, is he going to have six to eight turnovers and two games? That's all that matters to me. You know, how does he fit in with this offense? Because when you, if you are quote on quote expert, who knows everything about the NFL, you could take quarterback three through 12 and just... Hey there. It is Ryan Seacrest with you. You want to make this summer unforgettable? Join me at Chumbak Casino. It's the summer's hottest online destination. 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And we saw that here, if you remember, with Lombardi and Stafford, it was really the whole trying to pound the square peg into the round hole. It was never going to work. So what do you do? You say, "This is what my quarterback does well," and you put him in positions of comfortability. Because Benny, I don't know about you, you're a recovering gothaholic as well, right? Yes. Okay? For me, what terrified me the most about goth is when he was under pressure and he started seeing ghosts. There's no other way to say it. He started seeing ghosts. Yeah. And you could watch it. Terry, you could visibly watch him seeing ghosts and the short arms and the panic stricken and everything. That doesn't mean that it goes away. We saw it a couple times last year. But to your point, Terry, you know what I want to see? I want to see that in brief glimpses as opposed to that couple of games where, "Oh my gosh, dude, turn the ball over seven times in the last two and a half games." You can't have that. And I think because of this offensive line and because of the weapons' disposal, guess what? We're not seeing that, Jared Gough, anymore. Yep. I think most quarterbacks in F.L. are scared because these are some grown-ass men coming after you. They're like six, eight, three, twenty, running four, five, forties. I mean, you used to have some fat dude chasing you. You'd be like five, ten, two, sixty, waddling. Now you got dudes that should be kicking LeBron James' ass in the NBA coming after you. They should be in the Olympics running in the 100-meter finals. It's different now. You got some stone-cold athletes coming after you. So I think every quarterback is scared. Even Patrick Mahone. No question. He gets fidgety sometimes. No question. So you put him in a good position, you protect him, and then you don't have to hear about the hole. He holds under pressure. I think anybody will fold under pressure if they got it in this league. I think Jalen Hurts is like woefully underrated personally, and I don't care if I'm a lone wolf there. Honestly, I think Jalen Hurts is woefully underrated. I would take him over a lot of the guys mentioned on that list. I would. And you know what? He's another one of those guys. Does he necessarily look flashy doing things? No, but I've watched that guy get work done. Now last year notwithstanding, there's a team that has to answer a bunch of questions because whatever the bleep happened last year to that, you know, I mean, it fell apart. It's hard for that team last year. But at the end of the day, you know, I don't have any problem looking at that gone. Yeah. Okay. I get that guy. I get that guy. Listen, as a Spartan fan, if you don't know Kirk Cousins by now, you're not paying attention. I mean, it's funny. I think you'll get my back here. I'm always going to root for the guy. Here's another good guy, but we all know what Kirk Cousins is, right? We all know that. Yeah. You like that. And he's going to, he's going to have some of those moments where I don't like that and I don't like that at all. And he's going to have those long period of times. And a lot of people make the joke. It's always one o'clock games on a Sunday. I don't know if it's factually true or not, but I once saw a meme kind of categorizing, you know, some of his less than performances, but I'm with you. I think sometimes people get too wrapped up in the whole disrespecting, okay? Because today, if you're like me and you're like spending guys who not that long ago, we're going to stop it. Jared Goff isn't going to be the quarterback. If they haven't acknowledged that and confess their sins, sister Jean, confess their sins is both spending and I have, well, that's their fault. You can't play the disrespect card anymore. Be careful. Hey, be careful what you wish for over there, bro. You can be talking about the disrespect stuff because the lions live off of that. That's a thing that makes them right. Can we drop that? Huh? Can we drop that? No, don't drop. You still want it. Yes. Because if it motivates them, that makes them a better team. Let them go around bitching about how people disrespect who cares as long as they're winning. It's almost you. You know, it's kind of funny though. You just, you just brought that up and this just popped in my head. I know that people got so pissed off at SOL. People got, I mean, really, really pissed off in the last couple of years. You know the best way to get rid of SOL, is do what you did last year. Now, if somebody wants to drop SOL, you know what you can say, you can go seriously. You can go straight to hell because how on earth is winning a division and winning two playoff games? Same old lions. A team that has a playoff win. It's not. However, there is one block gate of SOL that still exists that they have to overcome this season. We talked about the 91 team when they won 12 games, made the playoffs, won a playoff game. Then what the Lions teams in the 90s did, they went 10, 11 games with their last play schedule. When they got the first play schedule, which you're going to have this year, then they went five games, the six games, and they'd be out of the playoffs. So to me, this is the last hurdle that they need to overcome. They need to have a very good season this year for the first play schedule, then you can officially drop every last bit of same old lion. Can we, and at the same time, I mean, unless there are people out there right now, and I get it, we're still too early to go, you know, into the deep weeds of who the favorites are and everything. I mean, if some Yahoo says the Lions are going to finish third and eight, nine, or nine and eight, or something like that, we can play that card, but I mean, correct me from wrong. All right. Seriously, if you guys have seen, I don't hear people nationally talking about the Lions like that. I hear a lot of people nationally, maybe not as far as saying Super Bowl or bus, but I hear everybody and their brother kind of giving the Lions the flowers, right? Right. We realize this is a different team. We'll wait and see. I can't wait for this and listen, again, I'll be the first guy to say it. It's fake football. I'm not going to put too much into it, and I'm going to avoid social media like the plague after some of these exhibition games with people like again, you're talking about deciding moments in fourth quarters of the game, where 85% of the guys on the field in the fourth quarter of that game are not going to be on either team. I mean, that's, it's just the reality of the situation. You're more likely to see them at Burger King. Right. Well, you know what I do to a fiery whopper right now, by the way, done that doesn't sound. But listen, all listen, it's every time around noon, you just got to bring up food. I know. Like I'm trying my best over here. This shift, dude. That's what it is. I don't know what it is. This happens right in the middle of lunch. You're supposed to eat lunch at 12, 11, 45, 12, 15. This is 11 to 1, but you're going to get hungry. Yep. I'm really hungry. No doubt. But I mean, to the point, listen, you know what's going to happen and people are going to make, I can't believe the lions blew that game so well. I mean, that's shit that happened on blow game, but I carry in the exhibition season. These people that have those conversations, it's all so like I have a rule an hour after those exhibition games. I just avoid social media like a plague because I cannot deal with that shit. So wait a second, all the guys in this room gave up a touchdown to all the guys in the other room who were all going to be back in that room a month from now. And I'm supposed to say that that's going to be the lion season. Like, come on. Wake the frick up, you know? Fans are not bright. They're not. They panic over everything. But last season, what about the panic in this town after the Seattle game? Oh, yeah. Panic after the Ravens game. Thanksgiving. Yeah. Panic. Both Chicago games. Yep. Even though they weren't. One of them. Yep. Panic. But I understand it because you are always used to Lucy pulling the football away and then once it starts to go bad, it's bad. All right. I haven't happened anymore. A couple of things I want to get into. You know, there's a reason. I don't, I don't gamble. No, I'm like, I'm not trying to take the moral high ground. I don't gamble. Like if I'm in Vegas, I might go to Mandalay and spend a college football afternoon in there. But I don't gamble. And I'll tell you why I don't gamble because I thought the Detroit Lions or excuse me, Detroit Pistons over under of 26 and a half last year was free money. And so when I saw how they failed miserably doing it, it reminded me why I don't gamble. I don't know if I'm standing at you. If you have 50 apps on your phone, I would have put so much on the Detroit Pistons over 26 and a half last year, I'd be begging in the streets right now. I want to get some thoughts on that. Want to ask Terry about Connor Stallions and CMU. I, look, I know what that, what that doc was going to be. I, you know what that doc was going to be. Gosh, damn it. I want to watch it. And I want to start getting some more answers because I, you know, I think one of the problems in society today is we're all told we didn't see what we actually saw like and it happens all over the place. And politically, sports wise and these people. Oh, dude, that wasn't Connor Stallions. Oh, that was Spencer Rachster. Hey, put the face, put Spencer and Connor Stallions up next to each other. They look exactly the same. 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Let's Stanford together. Let's ride. All right, um, I love college football. I think anybody knows me. I mean, I love college football. For me personally, no disrespect to anybody else out there. I've watched Terry in my life. I've watched college football kind of go like this away from the NFL in recent years. I really have just one man's opinion. Okay. Um, I don't think there's a better experience in all of sports. And Justin, I'm a hockey guy, first like you, but I don't think there's a better experience in all the sports and being on campus on a Saturday morning, Terry, I don't know what it is. I love it. I can't. Well, you got the tailgate. Right. You got the babes and you got that. Hey, everyone. It is Ryan Seacrest here ready to heat up your summer vacation. Get ready. Things are about to get sizzling at Chumba Casino. Your summer getting a whole lot hotter with a special daily login bonus waiting just for you. 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And what you now have to do is go, okay, who did you lose to? Because if you lost to Ohio State and Oregon is 10 and two and you lost to Texas out of the SEC and they're nine and three, but out of the SEC and oh, by the way, they beat you, boom, right there, not only the champions of the conference, but all those teams are going to go past you plus the at large. And I, I, I don't know what to make of it, Terry. You're overthinking it. Okay. Relax. We'll be the first time that you asked down and just enjoy it. I think this season is going to be great. The big 10 is actually a legitimate conference. I think so. Right. Before, I mean, like Michigan last year, all you had to do was beat Ohio State. Well, it's good. Nobody. Nobody. Penn State was so proud. Nobody. So this year, you got to worry about Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Texas. Penn State. Don't be good. I can't buy the James Franklin. Well, they'll be good, but not great. Yeah. You still got to beat them. Oh, I get what you're saying. They're going to, they're going to benefit from their week schedule. Their schedule is extremely weak and I honestly looked at it and I'm, I'm, I'm, I have no faith in Franklin. I have no faith in aller and it looks like they're only going to lose two games. Well, you know, I mean, the thing that you have to remember, if you follow the Franklin and I think at this point in time, he's established a Franklin is he's probably going to win a game where everybody's going to go, well, man, I can't believe Penn State did that, right? And conversely, there's going to be one of those games where his boneheaded decisions flat out lead to one of those losses where like an hour later going, I still can't believe I watch that. That's kind of been his talent on the field. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. So Terry, I'm with you. Don't get me wrong. I'm going to sit back and enjoy it. The unison of it and everything, but at the same time, it's the fear of the unknown. It is, it is. Okay. What are we really walking into and what is this board going to look like? And I think some people that are saying, well, yeah, it should be an open door to get into the playoff for some of the reasons that you just gave. I'll pull a lead course on say, not so fast, my friend, because there are going to be multiple teams in the big 10 alone that might have a better, better argument than your team will. Whether you be a Michigan fan or a Michigan, Ohio State fan, et cetera, et cetera. But here's nothing. This is going to be more pressure on the coaches. If you don't make a 12 team playoff, that means your season was a failure. If you're one of the big boys, like Alabama should always be in the playoffs. Michigan should always be in the playoffs. And if you don't mean that, I mean, you had, you don't deserve it. You probably lost four games. If Michigan loses three games, they're going to get them in that playoff. Don't worry about it. A hundred percent T-foss. Keeping Michigan out when your conference is this powerful and has this many high level teams in it, like you're looking at possibly four teams from the big 10 that could make the playoff and to leave out the former national champion is also disservice. That's going to be that nice little caveat that if it's two, nine in three teams, I don't give a shit about strength to schedule. I don't care about strength or record. It's going to go to Michigan because they're the former national champions. What if it's Texas? Just for the sake of an argument. What if it's Texas who Texas out of the SEC? It would be Texas. Who also beat Michigan? Yeah. Texas beat Michigan. Right. But that too. Do you understand what that's what I'm saying? I mean, especially now with these, these out-of-comfort schedules being what they are, you know, we don't see as much directional schools. You're still going to see it, but now some of these boys are going to say, let's go. Come on, let's go. You know, this helps the cause. And that's the kind of point we didn't have to think about that years gone by. You didn't have to worry about one of those games haunting you unless the unthinkable happened. Well, now, if all things are considered equal, if it's Texas out of the SEC and Michigan out of the big 10 and they're both nine and three, they're always going to favor to SEC. Right. And all of a sudden, hook 'em horns, I'm going, we beat you. What the hell are you talking about? We played earlier this year. We beat you. Those are the- The one that was early in the season, regardless, y'all are. Yeah, yeah. Those are the conversations that, like, are we prepared to have those conversations? Well, you know what, here's what I'm sick and tired of. In September, we're playing college football, right? Yeah. Who's coming to town? Bowling Green. DMI. Right. God bless my school. CMU. Here. Michigan States. Michigan State's out of conference schedule. I don't- Spenny, you'll agree. Michigan State's out of conference schedule is a gosh damn joke. It is. It's a gosh damn joke. Nebraska every year. Pacific. Yeah. It's- Those- Those are exhibition games. At those- At those- Or not. Those are disappearing. Right. Florida Atlantic. Prairie Valley. AMU. Uh, you know, at-at BC, those- those are the types of things, and that's why- You know, somebody, uh, you're such a Spartan, look at their schedule. If they can't get the six wins with that, like I'm serious, it's a hell of a lot worse than we already know it to be. And-and so that's- that's where I'm at with that, but that's the difference, Steve Foster. You're right. You still have some of those schools that have some of those schedules, but a lot of the quote unquote big boys, the blue bloods, are sitting there going, okay, well, we got Texas. We got Michigan. We got Oregon. And that's what's going to be intriguing, because if all of a sudden, all those guys are playing musical chairs in the first week of December, and that music stops, I might go all hook them horns on your ass and go, "Mission, we beat you. We're both nine and three. We're out of the SEC. We beat you." Those are things that- they- they're intriguing to me. Right. Do you like- Do you like to be entertained? Yes. Okay. And you love college football. Love it. Get your jollies off when Michigan is playing Bowling Green, second week of September. Absolutely not. You don't. Absolutely not. All right. So that's my point. I think college football is a joke until this year, because you had Michigan coming in for Bowling Green, VMI, Navy, my first football game that I've been went to as a big house. It's Michigan Navy. I think they beat them 70 to 14. I was a kid. I had a great time. I did. I did. I was a football fan, really? I did a game when I was when I was broadcasting for Toledo. We went to Toledo, went to the horseshoe, and I think it was 56 to nothing, and it was a hundred times worse than that. It was 49 to nothing at the half, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, and John Cooper, I shit you not, called a half-back option. Right before halftime, they're up 42 to nothing, 42 to nothing, in state rival pitches it to his half-back. He throws a touchdown. Like you're an asshole. Yeah. Like you are. I got no other way to say that. You're an asshole. And so what I heard from the Buckeye fans, it's amazing how life works itself out. I'll leave it at that. Look at Justin getting that shirt out already, but no, you know what? This was, I shit you not. This is what people said. Well, you don't want a game like that. You can practice a play like that because you never know. You never know when you have to use that in a big game. And I'm like, wait a second, half-back option from the 10 yard line with a minute to go before halftime against Toledo is fate would have it. And Terry Foster, you might remember this. The number one team in the nation, the mighty Ohio State Buckeyes, we're taking on an unheralded Michigan state squad, two months later, just two months later. They had a first in 10 at the 10 yard line in the last minute of the game. They didn't go to their secret weapon and they ended up losing that game to Michigan State. I think it was 28, 27. So I go on the air. The next day I'm going Buckeye fan. Where are you at? Why didn't you use your secret weapon against Michigan State? Y'all were telling me how important it was to drive that trick play up 42 to nothing. Wait, why the hell didn't you use that against Michigan State? Because of mine that worked. Terry couldn't agree with you more. There's nothing, there's nothing good that comes from those games. And let me tell you why. If you're Michigan and you beat Bowling Green, 56 to three, okay, this is what you're going to hear from people. You're going to have people going, you played Bowling Green. What does that mean? It means nothing, right? If the game is close, if the game is close, Mark Antonio era. Remember that bit? Spenny. So stupid. Yeah. Oh, Michigan fan, are you worried the Falcons hung with you and then God forbid they actually pull the upset. Terry, there's nothing good that comes from those games. It doesn't benefit anybody. Well, I can't wait to hear this central Michigan has a brand new baseball stadium for getting their asses across the nation. No, that's good. I'm talking about the big boy though. I'm talking about, yeah, for central, when central goes and beats Michigan State, that's the double whammy. Hey, thanks for the paycheck and we'll come and kick your ass anytime. That's the double whammy. But for the big boys, you know, there's not good that's going to come from that nobody's going to give you your flowers for beaten, Bowling Green, 56 to three, even bad for the small guys because I was in an airport in Atlanta and I was talking to this guy, where'd you go to school? He said, I went to the University of Florida. So he said, where'd you go? So I said, I went to central Michigan and he went like this, he grabbed his head and then spit came out of his mouth. He started laughing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 86 to eight. Yeah. Remember, 82 to six or whatever. Yeah. It was a lot. Yeah. That was it. That's a barrier. Go for two. Like when they were up 64 to three or whatever the hell it was. I remember just watching that going, dude, you're such a deck and you know what? They probably didn't pay us either. Take your beating and get right. So that's an interesting thing. Can I throw something out there real quick? Yeah. I know we moved past Penn State a little bit, but I just would like to say a top 10 ranked team has lost in week one on the road in the last three season. I will put it on wax right now. West Virginia plus 10 and a half against Penn State as Penn State travels to them on week one. Dude, you know what's funny? I just had a deja vu a year ago at this time and you can legitimately check the tape. I was doing a show right before the season started and like to me, what Florida State eventually did, the road was there, okay? If you knock off highly rated LSU, the first week of the year, you're locked all of a sudden, all of a sudden everything changes regardless of if LSU and Brian Kelly are legit or not, if they could fall off the three and eight, but you know what people remember? People remember what you did to LSU on that night. And that's what I was like. And then look at the rest of their schedule. They didn't have to beat anybody. Nope. It really didn't because that wasn't a Clemson team. That wasn't a Miami team. And if their quarterback doesn't get hurt, they're probably in the playoff. So it's weird how that happens. I won't. I won't rule that out, pal. I won't. I won't rule that out at all. See you. Terry. higher up. Can we talk about that? When we come back? What do you make of the stallion stuff? I'm already I was because I was up there that weekend. We'll get into that. When we come back, Terry Foster, Shomba Legion, so glad you could join us Friday. Hope you're enjoying the show. Boys, we'll be back next week in the meantime, you're stuck with us here on Woodward Sports. And I don't want to be gross, but I just gave birth in there. I lost the spot. It was it was a monster. Okay. Let me tell you guys about Randy Wise because how would you like to play in the University of Michigan golf course with Braille and Edwards? It's the Randy Wise celebrity golf to a register today. 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To be fair, Sparty is unfair a lot of times. Sparty can be very, very often, right? Yes. But I'm a firm believer and you don't judge every Sparty or every Woolvie with the same brush. You just don't do it. Thank you. Michigan fans, you have nothing to hang your heads about. You are a national champion. Nothing can change that. No. Like, I mean that. Yes. Nothing can change. The NCAA came down and said, "We know exactly what happened. We are taking wins away. You're the national champion." That's not going to happen. Of course not. But I'm telling you, like, legitimately, you're the national champion. And tip of the cap, respect. You knew that, however, was coming. However. Get on your own. I think a lot of you have kind of just, like, swept this counter stallion stuff under the rug. We all know what was happening. We all know what happened with Central Michigan, right? That was him. It was not Spencey with shades on. It was not Justin before he grew it out. It wasn't me. It was CMU that weekend and the week after, a couple of days after, when counter stallions was allegedly there. That was him. Because I talked to people who had signage credential, talked to people who were on the coaching staff. And they don't want to lie to me, but here's what I heard. Was that counter stallion? This is what they told me. All I heard was words, but they didn't say anything. Yeah. And mysteriously... Stayed around. Yeah. It was mysterious. Mysteriously a quarterback coach losses his job just before the season started. That's really weird how that works itself up. Now, again, Terry, is that why Michigan won the national championship? No. Give them their flowers. There's so much of this crap going on in college football. You would be naive to think this. However, you know what y'all lost the right to do? Y'all lost the right to take the moral high ground. It's gone. And many of you, not all of you, there's that statement again, Terry. Many of you, not all of you, in the past kind of went like this. That stuff doesn't happen in Michigan. How many times have we heard that? No, yeah. Yes. Stick your nose up in there like this. Remember, if you got a cheat to win, you already lost. That stuff doesn't happen in Michigan. It happens everywhere. You know what? You can't win a national championship without being a little shady. I couldn't agree with you more. Listen, the sooner we bring that into the light, the better off we all are. As a Michigan fan, I will tell you, I was not one of those people. I wanted them to get it down to that level, that Alabama and the George's of the world. Like, Georgia has the lowest graduation rate in the country. Like, they got shit going on down there. They can't even figure out how to drive cars down there. So... And they don't care. They don't care. I wouldn't give a shit. They win ball. They win natties. So, if that's the standard, win damn natties. Yep. Like, A's. Who gives a shit? We're football fans. Like... Just win the damn football game. We're not here to play school. When you're young, the Michigan fans will have money, and they're in their fifties and sixties. They're going around Michigan. We don't do it like that. We're different than everybody else. We can win a naddy without cheating, without doing anything. No one can win a naddy without cheating anymore. Couldn't agree with you anymore. I'm glad you have that realization. I've been one of those people for years. I've said, "Open your eyes." If you don't know what's going on, you're not paying attention. And, and, and a lot of times, it isn't just a lone wolf either. It isn't. Okay, whether it be bags of money, whether it be this, whether it be that. Like this, it's going on, it's been going on, and, and I'm cool with it. Just like I was cool with it before. But to your point, Justin, don't ever take the moral high ground with me again. I don't want to hear it ever again. If, if I can acknowledge, if we can all acknowledge national champions, you deserve it, I'm not taking a damn thing away from you. Let's also start to be more realistic about the way things are in college football. It's been like the jump, Jim Harbaugh got the hell out of town. Y'all ain't gonna, y'all ain't gonna pin this on me. I'm gone. I'm on the West Coast. Good for him. I'm surprised you didn't take a job in Leningrad. You just want to get this far away. That was like Pete Carroll. Remember Pete Carroll? Oh, that got so sick. When all that shit went down at USC, my man ran straight off USC's campus and jumped in the Pacific Ocean and swam all the way up to Seattle. He saw the fire torches coming from the other side of L.A. He saw all the hole from the sharks in the Pacific. At jump right in the Pacific, swam all his way up to Seattle, and then, and then got to go up there and play dumb. Oh, yeah. I didn't know anything about that. Really? Reggie Bush got a house and a car? Oh, this is a guy that had, I mean, literally name a celebrity back in the day, and Terry, that there were photo ops every single day with Pete Carroll and Matt Line or the Reggie Bush or whatever the case may. It's okay. Yeah. Let's acknowledge it. There's nothing wrong with that. It's happened here. Now, in my youthful days, I covered college football. Mm-hmm. And here's what I was told, head coach always knows what's going on. But the thing that he does is, y'all take care of this, don't tell me anything so I can plead ignorance, put it in place, get this stuff done, and then when the media comes to me, I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm telling the truth, fix it that way. Yep. Yep. That was, I had a coach tell me there are 110 players between the age of 18 and 22. How on earth can I keep track of them all? It's exactly what Terry said. Hey, Spenny, I want to hear about your linebackers. You take care of that shit. Yep. None of that, what? They're out at the bar? Nope. Don't have anything to do with that. I know of a very prominent player at a very prominent university, Terry, you'll probably know this story, who routinely would tie one on, didn't matter the day of the week, and decide that he was going to go in the middle of a busy road near his campus and shoot golf balls at cars and other houses, and there was an agreement in place that his very famous coach was to be notified first before anybody else, that they were going to take that player to jail, they were going to take him to his coach's house, and then they all played dumb and said it never happened, because there's no arrest, there's no, there's, there's nothing there. What's the stuff that happens at places, man? You ever hear of a coach dang bow? Yes. All Michigan, nothing happened under bow. These players, blah, blah, blah. Oh, no. Okay. He had an agreement. If somebody did something, the police didn't go to the media, the police didn't put people in jail. They went to bow. They, so and so did this, how are we going to handle it? Yep. They keep it in the house. It's real. Like, that's okay. And, and like again, you don't have anything to apologize for, you're the national champions. Yeah. Justin, I'm like when you showed that fire. Yeah. You know what I do? I people like this to everybody. Say what you want. I want the nanny. Yeah. Screw you. I got called a fake Michigan fan in chat. So to everyone who thinks that, take it up your ass straight up. I was at the nanny. I was at the last two Michigan Ohio State games in the big house. You got nothing on me. Jesus, do you lose your memories of what happened? No. No, of course not. So it's there. It happened. You can't take that away. You know, nobody, you guys, national champions forever, you saw it. That's it. And not the half bullshit that you had to put up with in 1997. 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And Terry, you would have an unbelievable tell-all book because there are things that I know that I'm not gonna but honestly, you are living in a fantasy world. And I'm talking to everybody out there. If you're one of those people that sit back and say, "We do things the right way," you are out your mind. Like, honestly. Maybe Vanderbilt. And Vanderbilt? Yeah. Yeah. I've said this before with different people in the chat. I'll never understand why, again, some, not all, some Michigan fans still have this victim mentality and this, "Oh, whoa, is me" and being so soft about it, you are national champions. Like, that's all you gotta say is we won the natty, suck it. Like, stop being a victim. You're not a victim. You're the best team in college football last year. I don't feel sorry for you because, A, yes, you're right, they're a national champion. And B, nothing's gonna happen to them. Yeah. But if it does, it's gonna be like a little slap on the head. You guys, I say this again. This is why I said at the beginning, I'm gonna say it again, okay? And Spenny, I couldn't agree with you more. I think there are some of you that are waiting to be offended just because of the choice of my hat, okay? You have nothing to apologize for. And you're the national champion. That's it. I mean, really? That's it. You have nothing to apologize for. But you have to accept the fact you lost the moral high ground. You never really had it. But now you have to expect, you have to accept that, that you can't play that card anymore. Now, Terry, you and I have been around long enough to know that certain segments, they're never gonna drop that. They're never, I mean, injured. You don't do things like that at Michigan. Well, if you choose to live in a fantasy world, so be it, but you can't play that card anymore. You do it, and that's fine. I wish they could do it at CMU. I wish they could cheat up and down, which made them so good, they could be in the national championship game. It's not gonna happen, it is impossible for it to happen, but I wouldn't mind a booster just saying, you know what, I don't give it down, I'm gonna stick a billion dollars into the football program for recruiting, for facilities or whatever, and just watch, see what happens. Screws, sister Jean, I don't give a shit if Satan himself was my head coach, if that means we're winning a national championship. Like, what are we doing here? Do you see Justin's eyes light up when he said, all right, we got to get out of here. Thanks again. Have a great weekend for Terry Foster, Sean Beliej in the game Woodward's work later. Hello, it is Ryan, and I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on Chumba Casino.com. I looked over the person sitting next to me, and you know what they were doing, they're also playing Chumba Casino, everybody's loving having fun with it. 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