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EP 305 | LIVE Q&A - REBELS OF DISCLOSURE AFTER PARTY w/Special Guests!

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Duration:: 2h 10m
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I mean, it's just like, it's like an activation event like every year. And I feel like it keeps getting better every year too. So just thank you all so much for everyone who came, who supported and showed us all love and support. And everyone who bought my book and, you know, everyone, just everything from all of the speakers, the vendors, everyone who attended, it was all amazing. It was just, it was, yeah, it was a magical, amazing time. And it's really something like you have to experience if you've never been. Like you just have to show up and experience it. So thank you all so much. Yeah, it was definitely my favorite year yet. Not that the first two were bad. I just thought this one was something special somehow. It had this magical feeling and the vibes were up. We were laughing. The Sasquatch were closer this time. And like Margie Kay said, whenever she's talking to him, 'cause she's in communication with one of them, they told her that our event is the only event that they come out for. - Oh, that's right. She did say that, yeah. - And Sherry Divban had a physical siding. Alexia Eisenhower's friends had a physical siding. - I didn't even know that, really. - Yeah. - Losses, Sherry, we'll get into that in a little bit. But there's definitely some physical siding. Actually, I was just on with Lily Nova on Monday. She's in the chat, hey, Lily. And we kind of went over all the Sasquatch interaction and communication that happened there. And it's just amazing that Skywatch the first night we had was by far, I think, the most active Skywatch. - Yeah, so far. - Yeah, I mean, finally saw my first power up in a long time. We were just talking that night. I was like, man, I have not seen a power up and it seemed like years, you know? And then all of a sudden, we get the big power up. And if you guys don't know what a power up is, it's just like, it could potentially look like a satellite maybe, but it's cruising along and it just starts getting bigger and brighter and just cool Boeing and then it shrinks back down. And then sometimes disappears entirely. But we got a good power up the first night and it was a lot of fun. It was just good vibes all around and just thanks to all the speakers who showed up and all the people who showed up. And like Aaron said, everyone who bought your book, Aaron's on his book tour now. He's that became like five interviews in a row this week. - Right there. Yeah, I'm on my virtual book tour right now. I know I got like five shows coming up and I've already done, I did a few before the conference. So the conference was like a book signing thing basically. And now I'm doing like a whole bunch more shows. So yeah, it's not over yet. - So people are saying, can you guys hear us and see us? Okay, it looks like some of you can and some of you can't. Some people can't hear us, but they can see us. Other people can only hear us, but they can't see us. - I got audio. - Yeah, it sounds, it's working on my end. So, okay, yeah. So Lily, I just mentioned your name and you missed it. So that's what you get for not being refreshed. She had to refresh her page. Okay, cool, everybody can hear us. So yeah, we're gonna do, it's gonna be Aaron and I for a few minutes and then we're gonna bring in some special guests and we have quite a fun lineup tonight. So we are gonna do this Q and A style. So if anybody has any questions for us or any of the guests that come in, just put them in the chat and put the word question and all caps in front of it so we can identify amongst the other comments. So if anyone has any questions, please put them in the chat. And what else? I feel like honestly, so I woke up the last day after the conference Friday and I felt something shifted like fundamentally within me and maybe on the planning. I don't know, but I was like, what changed? Something changed. And there just seems to be so much on the collective that's just been untied and let loose now. And like this Terence Howard thing I'll interview in Jordan's podcast. - It's so good. I watched the whole thing and then some of it twice. It's so good. - But it's like, okay, what's happening on a collective level that's allowing this information to just suddenly spill over. Like it's like, it's just spilling over. It's like the container is full. There's no room left for bullshit. - Right. I mean, it's just the ascension in my opinion. It's everything coming to the surface that's been hidden. It's the energy's rising. It's, you know, it's like all of it's happening so quickly now. And things that for thousands of years have been suppressed are coming to the surface. Like this information is like, you know, yeah. Like you said, the fact that that's coming out on Joe Rogan, which is like, I mean, his show is bigger than all the mainstream media. It's like one of the biggest shows getting out to so many millions of people. And then the reception of it, I'm looking at the comments on that video on YouTube and it's 95% positive and like, this is amazing. Oh my gosh, this is so great. - Yeah. - And years ago, plus that would have not been the case. I guarantee you like it would not have been like that let alone it happening in the first place. So there's clearly a consciousness shift in activations and everything happening right now to allow that, like you said. - Right, and that periodic table that he introduced, obviously that's not something like brand new. People have been talking about that for years, but now when it's hit the collective on a mass scale and that's huge. So in a sense, it is brand new and it's resonating with tons of people. And my favorite thing of all this is the truth is out there that are doing videos saying, oh, Terence Howard on Joe Rogan is a Siob. - I've seen it. - Yeah, it's like these, I'm sorry, like how since when is raising the collective consciousness of Siob? - Exactly. - That's what I don't understand. - It's not. - It's like some of these people, it's not about, it's not about the truth to them. It's about their theory being right. And it's everything's a Siob until they've deemed otherwise. And it's just, it's like calm all in the eyes. - Well, yeah, and it's like, they're locked into this belief system that anything that happens on a massive scale like that or anyone who, he was an actor, oh, he comes from Hollywood. So he must be controlled and evil or both. And oh, it's on Rogan. So he must be controlled. He must be a controlled opposition thing because he's on Rogan and he was an actor. And it's not like, I'm like, did you listen to what he said? I'm like, did you just listen to what he said? Forget all that and stuff. Take what he said. And like, if somebody, if some known in person would have come out and said all the things he said that I guarantee you most of those same people would have been like, oh, this is amazing. But because he was an actor, because it's coming out on Rogan, they have this belief system like, oh, it must be evil. It must be this trick to get us to like, get us off track or something like that because of that. And I don't agree at all with that. I think, I do think, yes, of course, always use your discernment if something is coming out in a big way, especially if it's on a big show or for an actor. Yeah, you wanna be like looking out for that, but that doesn't mean every single time it's a say up. It's a controlled opposition, it's, you know, whatever. Just listen to what they're saying, use your discernment with that. Don't just make the decision upfront, which is what all these people I see are doing. Like most of the people I guarantee you probably have even watched it and they're already, they're just saying these things because of those reasons. Right. And, you know, a lot of, interestingly enough is Mason Fieri, who spoke at our conference, he's the first one that texted it to me. He said, dude, check this out. He's talking about the same stuff that I talked about in my presentation. And, you know, the sound being connected to color and the tones and the frequencies and the geometry of it all. And so it's amazing, like the timing of it is like extremely synchronicistic, I guess you could say. Synchronicistic, yeah, absolutely. And not just that, just, I don't know, some of the things like all of a sudden the Vatican and the, doing this thing, the Pope is gonna, what's he gonna do? I forgot what it was now. Oh my gosh, I have to read it. The Pope is, the Vatican is doing some type of debriefing or briefing about extraterrestrials to the public, but there was a certain name for it. Anyway, it's like, it's like their hand has been forced and it's just all spilling over right now. Right, right. Right, you know, 'cause here's the thing, like, so much, especially in the truth or community, I mean, I don't even want it too much in this, but it's like the dark, so or credit and power that it has. Think that it is the exact opposite. It's like the light has all the power, you know, God, which we are all part of, the light, love, that's where the power is. And the dark only has power because it's tricked beings into giving it power, essentially, to put it all in nutshell. So, but I see so many, like, people, especially in the truth or community, that think that it's like, they've been under the scyop of thinking everything's controlled, everything's rigged, and which, yeah, to a degree it is, but the whole trick, the bigger trick than all of that is that we are powerless and they have all the power and there's nothing we can do about it. 'Cause that's what they want us to believe, so we keep giving them power and keep creating the reality they want us to create, that they're tricking us into creating, right? Well, so many people in the truth community are under that spell and they don't even realize it, and they're continually feeding that creation with thinking, oh, no, I just know the truth and I'm calling out the BS and I know the truth. And it's like, you know some truths, you know some information, but you've fallen under the scyop and the spell of giving the dark all the power and not realizing you have all the power and we have all the power because we're connected to the source and the parasites are not and that's why they have to feed off of us and trick us into all of us. That's what I have to say about, you know, all of that. Here's what I was looking for. Here's what I was looking for, the Vatican to hold press conference on apparitions and other supernatural phenomena and also alien disclosure is within the article and Lily just said something in the comments. When I got messages from the future, they said big disclosure was coming with the Vatican and that spirituality and science would be bridging, which it's Ben Bridge that's just publicly gonna be bridging. That's the way they've even developed all these reverse engineer technologies is because they've bridged their gap, you know? But we're gonna start letting in some of our guests. So, and guys, if you have any questions, again, just put them in the chat. Okay, here they come, hopefully. What's up? - Hello. - Just so you know you're live right now. - I saw that. Hello everyone. I was actually trying to watch the rumble here too. Like if we have to speed. - What's up? - The rumble to talk in the chat. I had it for a second and it keeps kicking me out. But I guess I'll just keep guys here and face to face. - That's me kicking you out of the chat, by the way. - Thanks, yeah. - Yeah, that was Tyler. - I was gonna call the trouble anyway. - Right. - Hi, everybody. - Good. - How's it going? - How's it going? Can everybody here, can you hear Tony okay? Or is it? - Test, testing. - Yeah, it sounds alright, okay. - Yeah, it sounds alright. - So anyway, welcome to the after party. How are you guys doing? How are you guys doing tonight, Tony? I'll start with you. - I finally feel like I've recovered. Was it Thursday the week after? And I was sore for like three days after I got home. I had a nice, great trip on the way back after "Cokey of Mounds" and went downtown and checked out St. Louis, caught a ball game. - Nice. - And it was awesome. It was a great trip altogether. So yeah, I'm feeling great. I'm in high spirits and back on the tracks. Like a lot of energy and a lot of connections made there after conferences. There's a lot of opportunity. And so we're kind of back at it, back to the grind. Hello, Niarra. - Niarra, welcome to the party, Niarra. So yeah, Tony, you stayed and you checked out the arch and you got some amazing drone footage and I was like, what are you doing? I called him, I was like, you're gonna, that's a $15,000 fine. And he's like, no, my drone won't let me fly that close. - But don't tell anybody I'm on the air that I broke the local F8, the rules there. But I flew it, it didn't wanna land. I had, thank God it had battery in it. It was, it's geofenced downtown there. And I did get some good footage and material for my book that I finished today. So. - Hey. - When do you hear a published book? - Edit and press play on it. You know, I'm hoping Jackie helps me with a couple things. - Of course I will. - Hi Jackie. - Hi. - How are you doing Jackie? - I'm doing great. Thank you. Happy to be here. I thought I was a phenomenal conference. I left on such a high and it was awesome. Really, it was a great, like probably my favorite I've ever been to. - Thank you. - Yeah, thank you so much. - Yeah. - I, you know, I feel the same way and I told her not even to like follow our own ego or anything like that or because we threw it but it just something special about that group of people this year was, I don't know what it was but it really felt amazing. And I'm so happy that you guys were able to be a part of it. And. - Right. - And yeah, so. - Yeah. Thank you guys so much. - I said too. I was really happy to be there. I was really happy that you got me back in the saddle again. (upbeat music) - Okay, round two. Name something that's not boring. - Laundry. (buzzer) Oh, a book club. - Computer Solitaire, huh? (buzzer) - Ah, sorry. We were looking for Chumba Casino. (upbeat music) That's right. ChumbaCasino.com has over a hundred casino style games. Join today and play for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. (upbeat music) ChumbaCasino.com. - No more testing. - Oh, we're breathing it by law. - 18 plus, start the edition supply. See website for details. - What's the easiest choice you can make? Window instead of middle seat? Picking a vendor who sends a great gift basket, outsourcing business tasks you hate. What about selling with Shopify? (cash register chimes) Whether you're selling a little or a lot, Shopify helps you do your thing. However you cha-ching, Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. 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They want more presentations. And so I'm thinking about doing QAnons and Devolution. - Oh, nice. - That would be a good, good thing. 'Cause I really follow that. And I really think there is a plan. And I think we're getting, if the Twitter hasn't been pulled on a plan already, it's close. So it has to be this year, has to be this year. - Well, I mean, we were just saying before you hopped on, there's something's already happening. But we're seeing this shift energetically anyway. And information is just spilling over right now and they just can't keep a lid on it, no matter what. So I guess they have to roll with it. And that's why the Vatican is doing a press conference to brief us on paranormal and spiritual activity and not just a Vatican, but all these other companies, they all have their hands in the game and now they're letting us, well, obviously they're gonna try to control it, but they're talking about it, which is big. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's been a lot of happenings. I wanna say the Niro's presentation not only was like freestyle, but it was super powerful. Like it was moving at Niro's presentation and it was moving, you know, like it was powerful. And God bless, I hope you keep it up. - I will, yeah. - On the world events, look at all the things that are taking place. People are stepping down and there are major, major, major bad guys that are going away recently. And a lot of things seem to be changing. The winds have changed. And so, you know, it's always, you never know, I don't know. I like to stay in the middle of the road, not thinking that they're good guys or bad guys, to be honest, but it looks like some things have changed just this week in all of our things. So. - Yeah. - I sent you guys all a video that's on Twitter and I hope you get a chance. I didn't send it to you, Jackie, but I will. But it was pretty explosive in a good way. And I hope you take a look at it if you can. So. It really, yeah, it was powerful. - Right, yeah. I did read what you sent me. I didn't have a chance to watch it. I was getting things set up for tonight, but it's definitely like, I don't know exactly even, I haven't been following too much. So in Tony, you're saying some big players have gone down. 'Cause that's, maybe I've heard about it, but what were you talking about? - Well, Klaus Schwab just stepped down from executive leadership or something like that. - Right, I did see that one, yeah. So do you guys know any more about that? - I don't know much about it. But you know, the whole Iranian president thing happened. You know, we're seeing a lot of the retracting on some of the, I don't want to say it. Well, we're on Rubble, but you know what I'm saying? Like there's been a lot of retrachment, retrachment, retrachment, whatever that word. - Retrachment? - There's been a lot of that in the pharmaceutical realm. - Yep. - Just recently, and we're seeing major people in the media that are doing an about face publicly. And so what this says to the people that are still believing in all the crap from it is, you know, they're, they have to put a pin, but they're kind of unringing the bell, right? And right before our eyes. So all the time, all the stuff that honestly, you guys were at the forefront of getting in trouble for it all back then. - Right. - You guys caught up. - So now it's not a great, I told you so. It's not a good feeling to know that we're right. - We literally lost our YouTube channel for talking about it too much, or guest talking about it. - I will never say, there's people in this community, I could say I told you so too. I will never say I told you so. If we start talking, I will just say, how can I help? - That's beautiful. - That's it, yeah. - Exactly, because it's not about ego and I was right. Haha, it's about, thank you for waking up and. - These are people's lives that are at risk. This is not an I told you so moment. This is a how can I help moment. - Exactly. - The wellness company and they have formulas to help people that have had the VACs. There's the CSTAC protocol that's still out there. There's EES system, that reverses the effects of the VACs. There's so many things that I could direct people to that can help them, and I wanna bring a EES system here to Picosa Springs for our veteran community and the larger community. - Yeah. - Our veteran community really, really needs it. - That's amazing, that's beautiful. - And that's important because whenever, it's one thing whenever you get a letter in the mail and says something on your car has been recalled, right? - Right. - But it's another thing when you get, when you see on the news that a shot that you put in your body has been recalled. And that's what's happening now, and what does that mean? So if we can provide people with protocols, and I know, oh my gosh, I can't, I'm drawing a blank on her name, the woman who was at our Cheryl, who was at our conference with the Medbed, the Teslabed. - Girl, I have a guest. - Yeah, yeah, she had a vaccine detox protocol she was giving out to people. And I mean, that type of stuff is extremely crucial right now. So people are gonna be looking for answers and ways to think. - I have a protocol, I got a long time ago when everything first started from G&D code. If you guys know. - Yeah, yeah, of course. - We love G&D code, yes. - Yeah. - Oh yeah. - So I have the information I can share and I will share it with as many people as wanna take advantage of it. - Right, right. - Yeah. - So Jackie, did you have something you wanted to share with the audience this evening? - Well, actually I had a, I don't know, well let me start on a dark note and take it like, the first time I went to the conference, so I haven't been sick in 12 years, I hadn't been sick. Went to the conference, came home, I was so sick and I was pregnant. And I was like, weird was I targeted, you know, it's so easy to think those thoughts. So this year I'm like, no, we're gonna go learn and have the best year, I'm gonna prove that this is, you know, come home and my sweet dog dies two days later. - Oh no. - I literally called Tony and was like, I feel that I've been targeted, like, 'cause he had a tiny mass and I got home and it was like this big and open and I wasn't, by the way. I think that me being separated from him gave him permission to start the process of leaving and I got home, we got to spend two beautiful days together and he passed. However. - I started thinking about doing meaningful things and making the most of life and so I messaged Tyler right before and was like, I just bundled every course I've ever made on being more psychic and connected and making the most of your life. Can I please tell the audience that it's for sale at the low price of $222, please? 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So if you use promo code JTT, you get it for $222 and the link is below and it's basically how many years worth did you say of real research? - It's 10 years of me figuring out how to be more psychic from the most like ancient spiritual teachings to like digging through D-Classified documents and what worked for me and it's all in there. And I feel amazing about it. And I love offering it to this community at a super discounted rate and it is helping heal my heart. So thank you for letting me share it. - Of course. - Yeah, thank you. - And we're starting to hear about your pup. I've been following your Instagram story and I recently just went through the same thing right before the conference. So I can relate and we've been chatting back and forth and it's something that you don't really expect it to be as hard as it is. But it's just something beautiful in it at the same time because you truly appreciate and honor the relationship we have with our pets and animals. And on a level that you just don't quite appreciate every day and it's just a lot of beautiful revelations come from it and it's a new chapter for all of us. There's been a major shift after this event and I feel that my personal life things are being shimmy around and I know that big things are coming. So we can see the silver lining. We can find the silver lining and everything right now. And I think we have a very bright future ahead of us and anybody else can take the mic if they'd like because I'm out of things to say. - So I will real quick. I didn't want to come up here to my workspace 'cause the last day I was with him, I brought him up, set him up by my little workspace so I could just keep an eye on him. It's the last place we spent time together where he was well. And I was like, at the bottom of the stairs, like, man, I can't go up there, I can't go up there. His name was Apollo, by the way. I got up here, I looked out my window as the most beautiful sun I've ever seen living here. It was this bright golden orange sun and I was like, you have to come up here. You have to remember the soul connection. Like his body's gone, but he's not gone. And I think it was him like shining to me through the sun in some way. So yeah, it's a different, you know, there's many spirits, human spirits as I've connected to or death doula work that I've done to help people as they progress into transitioning back into spirit form. Nothing prepares you for your own pet, nothing. But it is like in the depths of our grief, we remember that we're spiritual beings and it's been the most beautiful reminder of like, he's not gone and focusing on that spiritual connection has been the focus of my past week. It's been a beautiful heartbreaking, but beautiful week. So yeah. - Well, you know what, one day you're gonna look in the eyes of another puppy or another dog and you're gonna see him in there and you're gonna know that that's the one you bring home. - I wish that someday, not right now. He was. - It happened to me. It happened with my service dog, it happened to me with a parrot as well. - Really? - Yeah. - So amazing. It just, the soul's journey is amazing. - Yeah. When you love, when there's such a deep love, they wanna come back and be with you again. - Yeah. I mean, that, there you go. There's a little. - They're super connected with you. (laughing) - That's the thing, like, you know, we've all had pets, but then we all have that one pet. We have this really special soul connection with where you're just telepathically communicating with them. You understand each other. It is just unseen. - Mm-hmm. - You know, and that's what it was like with my dog, but through my mom had a dog that would never leave her side. And right after my mom passed, that dog passed. And it wasn't until years later when I got Maya, who just recently passed it, I found out, well, first of all, I felt it and I saw it. I'm like, "Is that Prince in another body?" I was like, "Is that my mom's dog?" I felt like it was the same soul. So I started reaching out to animal communicators and mediums and from two different separate sources, they both verified it. So she came back. And so I got to see the same dog in two different bodies, essentially. - That's amazing. - And it was just, you know, maybe she'll come back again, but yeah, wasn't expected. - Tony had something like that. It's in Project Star Maker. - And you saw multiple bodies, if I remember correctly. Yeah. - Well, before we leave the subject of animals, there's a wonderful movie out there called A Dog's Purpose. And it's about a dog that comes back to his owner many years later when the owner is grown up. It's a beautiful film, I highly recommend it. - Yeah, check that out. - Definitely wanna check that out. And what was your story for the people who don't know, Tony, if you don't, unless you don't wanna share it, you don't have to. You're not trying to make this all about. - It's almost been this kind of personal, you know? - Okay. - But it's kind of personal, like-- - It's in the book. - It's in the book. It's in the project for me. - Shameless plug, now you gotta buy the book. - Yeah, buy the book and read it. - It's not that personal because thousands of people know it. - And honestly, honestly, that particular story may be the entire reason why I'm even sitting here today with you guys. Like it may be the whole reason why the whole thing happened. And I got my memories back and I went on to be a whistleblower and do the things I'm doing. Like that particular soul connection may be the reason that enabled it. - Right. - And changed my life better. You're not gonna get me choked up here talking about Apollo and my dog Buster that was in the book. So I knew Apollo was my favorite. Nothing against Will, your other dog and your cat. But Apollo was a very wise animal. They're not all the same and you can feel that. So Apollo was a wise soul. So I definitely feel your grief on that, Jackie, for sure. - Right. - I came down and got to visit you guys when you remodeled and helped you out. And he was amazing to hang out with. We got locked. So Will was kind of come and go. He could take me or leave me, but Apollo stayed with me. We hung out, you know what I mean? Like we were dogs. I speak dog too. - You look like one too. - That's right. I'm gonna put a little bit of a dog in here. - Wait, man, part of the pack. - You know, we got lightened up a little bit 'cause they just don't. I mean, while we're talking about this, people who are just tuning in, they're like, "Oh, rebels are disclosure after party. "It was special guests." 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Well, what I noticed about it, so I'm gonna critique your work. I would change the number and use either all letters or all numbers. - Okay. - 'Cause it was hard to write down. I was kinda lost in it. So that might give some people a reprieve. I've continued to get great reviews. I don't know about you guys, but people, every time I talk to somebody, they're so happy we did that. And I know a lot of people didn't get the target specifically, but they got abstract data of it and still enjoyed the exercise. But I played a game of virtual reality, put golf with a Z's Brown last night from Farsight. And I was like, man, I was on Journey Truth last week and I at the conference and we did a live remote viewing. So I look up to Farsight. These guys are, you know, Courtney Brown is amazing at what he does and a Z's, all of them, all the Farsight people are heavyweights across the board. And so I'm like, man, it worked out good. I did, I was so scared on stage. And he's like, yeah, I knew. Somebody had already went there until he's like a friend came over and visited for dinner and said they were in the audience. - No way. - And I was told about it. Yeah, until he and you all about it already. And so that was like, when people you look up to, when people you look up to greatly in the same field that you're working in, give you credit for the work that you're doing, you know what I mean? It was a big, it was a big thing. And I would have not had the balls to do it if Jackie didn't nonchalantly say, oh, we're doing it. I already told Tyler that I would remove you live on stage. I was like, well, Jackie, I'm not, wait a minute. There's things you can go wrong. She's like, now we're going to do it. Don't sweat it. - We're going to do it. - She was kind of like, don't be a pussy, you know what I mean? - I didn't know that, right. - You know what though? - Pretty much. - It was super cool. And you know, for those who don't know who weren't at the conference, Jackie and Tony, they did a presentation together and at the end, they did a remote viewing experiment, I guess, is that what you would call it? - Yeah, like a demonstration, a lot of variations. If you're toe in the pond, demonstration of how remote viewing works, I wanted people to know that you don't have to be a wizard, that it's everybody can do it. Everybody can do it. It's like riding a bike. - Right. And it was super cool. And some people were, like you said, you had the stack of remote viewing workbooks that you had made for sale. Nobody touched them. After that, especially the people that nailed the target, you know, the book sold out. And my dad was one of the people who bought a book. He was so blown away by his results. Like his was actually one of the really accurate ones. And it's like you let people realize, he helps people realize that, like we have this already within us. I failed miserably, by the way, with my results. I think I got one thing maybe close, but what it does is it just helps people understand. Like it's a stepping stone. I eventually might not even need remote viewing to do the tappinities, psychic abilities. But it helps you exercise that muscle. - That's right. I'm hoping remote viewing is the gateway drug for people to get in touch with their higher power, their higher selves and their inner ability, their intuition. Remote viewing is the gateway for that. It's a step-by-step protocol and you get immediate results to know if you were accurate or not. And so a few times of practicing, a lot of people of the people that said they came in and said they'd never ever do it. I'll never remote view, but I want to visit. And I just want to watch and be a fly on the wall and your course end up being very accurate after a few times. You get out there, seven, eight targets, they're hitting the target. And once you learn that, you get the confidence to do other things like in the right towards the direction of what Jackie does. And some of those courses that she offered, a lot of people are intimidated by it, say, well, I'm not a psychic, man. You know what I mean? Like for this, this, and this reason, then you talk yourself out of it. And the reality is that we all are psychic. Every single day, we would not get through, mankind would not exist in the cartoonish world that it does if we didn't have some sort of intuition and communication with each other beyond words. And so that's what it is. And it's all the same phenomenon, same science. But the remote viewing, like I said, is a gateway drug. Hopefully to get you addicted to your soul. - Right, right, exactly. - Boom, my trap. - Right, my trap. - Yes. - Yeah, and it was such a cool, it was such a cool experiment and lesson. And I just wanna comment on something. So, you know, Niara, that was your first time speaking since 2018. And, you know, it took a lot for you to actually get to the venue, you know, you had to rearrange a lot of stuff and find a sitter for your dogs and you know, the whole thing, it was just, it was an effort. - Even more for me to get home. - Right, but what I noticed, every time I was walking through the venue, I would walk past you and you just had this calm, relaxed look where you were smiling. It was like, but it wasn't a smile, like it was a smile of happiness, obviously, but it was this smile of gratitude. And like, it was just emanating from you. It was just a beautiful, I even commented to another, a few other people. I was like, you should look at her. She just looked so happy to be here right now. And it was inspiring me because, you know, I think it's stressful sometimes. And it reminded me to be grateful, but I just wanted to comment on that because you just carry that energy and I think it's so powerful. - Well, I took the coaching training years ago and excuse me, I learned that when you appreciate people, it actually increases your chances of appreciating the people around you more. Because when people take appreciation and gratitude in that you express to them, they feel really good. And their own energy field expands with their own appreciation and their own gratitude. And then it touches other people and it just keeps growing as long as we consciously put the energy into that. You know, for some people, it's kind of unconscious, but when you know that that's the process that's happening, it's really powerful. And I was very grateful to be there and I was very happy to be there. And I loved everybody. I just loved everyone. - Yes, thank you. Thank you so much. - Thank you. - And there was a question. No, the dates are not 100% locked in for next year. We will be making an official announcement about all of that, but there will be one next year. I just found you guys a week ago before your conference and couldn't get off work. We'll be doing another one before next May. There will be one next year. So yes, not before next May, no. I don't think we'll do that. But any other questions? So I have a question for any of you guys who want to take it. If you had to go up to somebody on the street who didn't know anything that was going on right now, who do he wasn't awake, and you had to explain to them our current situation, how could you do it? And what would you say to them? It's a tough one. Like in a nutshell, like, yo, what's going on? If somebody had just learned about their questioning what's going on, or why things are happening the way they are, and you had to give them the rundown, could you do it? Well, for me, I would just kind of feel the energy of the person, try to grok where they're at. And then I would ask them questions about what they think is going on in the world today, and then ask them if they're open to hearing my view. And I would start in exchange that way, because sometimes when you draw people out and you get them to start talking about what they think and what they feel, for one thing, it creates a safe space between the two of you. And for a second, you know, then it creates an opening in them where maybe they're interested in hearing what you have to say. Yeah, that's the healthy. That's the beautiful, healthy way. But I'm talking about the fire hose explanation. Fire hose? No, not necessarily like to a stranger, but go ahead, Aaron. I would just say the problem with the fire hose is like, I think what Niara's point is that people just shut down unless they're interested in what you have to say. And there's so many people that do that. And like, what would you do if someone you don't know comes up to you and starts fire hosing you with a bunch of information that you know nothing about? Like, you're going to be like, this guy's crazy, or get away from it, you know? So first, you got to establish some kind of rapport and connection. And you know, there's a quote, it's people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care, right? So like, and until you have established that, like, you could fire hose it. Like, I've done it before and I can tell the people just their eyes glaze over and they just tune out and they don't, they don't care what I'm saying. Or it's just way too much for both. So I think that's first. And then you kind of, I would say, man, I don't know, because it's, it's hard to wrap it up in a nutshell. Well, my whole thing was I was actually trying to challenge these guys to do it right now on the spot. If just get like the elevator pitch, like the elevator pitch. Yeah, like, yeah. Like we were taken over by a evil cabal, whatever. Go ahead. Let's take turns. Yeah. So I need to know one thing though, is this person in a happy oblivion? Or are they like something that helped me? Um, you pick. Happy oblivion. I'd be like, whatever you're doing, keep doing that. Because that can very much be. So I think that we live in an observer based reality where that can be their reality for eternity. And if they were uncomfortable and like, what's going on? Can you explain this to me? Maybe I'm in a funky week, but I'd be like, yeah, turn off your TV and go camping for a week. Because all the truth you need is going to be revealed that. That's exactly what I would say to someone. I would fire hose them. I would not expose them to the debates. I would not get them addicted to trying to figure things out. That's a dopamine hit. Oh, I figured it out. I did my research. This is what's going on. I know what these people don't. We get addicted to it, like turn off your TV. Broad in nature for a week. Everything you need to know will come to you. That's beautiful. Yeah, excellent. That's so gentle and easy, right? Just tune into nature and kind of get in touch with your inner self. And, you know, God, I love you, man, and tune in to be loving. Yeah, mine, my approach, if I was going to fire hose somebody that would happen in a kind of like listening to nonsense, and then I kind of wait until the aliens get mentioned and worm in. But I found that my information and what the things that I've experienced, the things that I experienced, that most of us in this meeting have experienced, are hard to explain to people without a kind of a crack in the door. And, you know what I mean? You can't just bust in, you know, the Kool-Aid guy and bust through the wall and say, you know, secret space programs. Real aliens are real, they're running the government, and that's what's going on, and they own us, and you're paying taxes on and nothing, like, to do all that. So I would go. I start with the secret space program that, you know, the government isn't in charge. There's 28 levels of security above the president. There's a secret ongoing space program that's been going on for 100 years. The Germans made it out of World War II. They're up there as well. There's radical technology that we have. You have you can't even imagine. Check out my website. That's what I'm talking about. That's the answer. I was looking for Tony. Pass the test. No, no, it was a test. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I liked my answer. I think Jackie did some of the best work there, because nobody is going to, like, I'm open for a counter-offensive by saying that stuff, so nobody's going to work. No, but I get the sentiment of your question. How do you educate someone who's asking, right? Like, how do you get somebody from, if there's 100 levels and they're at level four, how do you get them there? You know? That's why I would ask the question, too, because you never know what's on their mind. It's like I come up to somebody and they're looking lost and saying, "Hello, are you doing okay? What are you thinking or feeling right now? You look like you need some help." If somebody says, "Well, I just found out that the Vax is really bad, and I've taken the Vax in three boosters, and I'm really worried about this shit in my body right now. Then I would know exactly what to talk about with them, and exactly where to guide them to possibly help detox from them." So that's why I would ask the question. I don't know if I'd start with UFOs straight out of the shoot, unless I just ask the question, "Have you ever seen strange things in the sky that weren't craft?" Wow, yeah. Yeah. I'm over here. I had a sighting once, and it was an opening to really give more information and start to red pill them. When I did my presentation here in Pagosa Springs, I was kidding people, but I really did it. I said, "I'm going in there with both barrels loaded. I'm going to discharge them, and then I'm going to reload." I really wanted to get people, in a way, I did the same talk that I did at Journey to Truth, but I went into a lot more depth at Journey of Truth. But I told them about my experiences. I told them about the most disturbing thing about everything I've experienced is secrecy in government that has allowed a cancer in our society to grow unnoticed and to metastasize into what we're seeing today. That's the one thing that I find the most disturbing about all of this, because once we get on the other side of this and we get the right, the world turn right side up again, we need to understand that we can never have that kind of secrecy without any public or congressional oversight ever again. Right. Well said. Absolutely well said. So welcome to the after-party, Sherry and Margie. Hi guys. Thanks. Thanks for joining us. We're just taking questions from the audience right now, and I don't know if you guys have been listening beforehand or not, but before we do that, I'll give you guys a chance to just share your experiences at the conference and, you know, just say hi to everybody. Sherry, we can start with you. You slept through your alarm, missed the train, and your breakfast sandwich. Cool. Sounds like you could use some luck. I'm Victoria Cash, and Lucky Land is where people go every day to get lucky. At Lucky Land, you can play over a hundred casino-style games for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes. Go to luckylandslots.com and get lucky today. No purchase necessary. VGW could avoid. We're prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply. Well hi everybody. Thanks for having me. I'm recouping because I'm sick, and I came home to one sick kid, two sick kids, three sick kids, a husband sick, a dog and two dogs and a cat, and I was the last to get it. So it's been a really crazy few weeks. I'm still like out of it, so maybe I shouldn't say too much, but it's been crazy. But I had such an amazing time with all of you guys, and I think I hung out with each and every one of you, and I think Margie, I just want to say my favorite night was spending with you, was spending with you around the campfire. It was really a special moment for me. I'll remember that forever. But I had a great time and I learned a lot from I think everybody's presentation I learned. I took something away from everyone's. They were so good, so different, but just collectively so inspiring, and it was just really beautiful to be a part of that group of presenters and the audience that comes. They're such an amazing, I have made so many friends from the journey to truth crew. I call it the community, and I feel like every time I see these people, the relationship gets stronger. So yeah, it was amazing for me. Right, and apparently everybody that came to the conference just to see Sherry. I'm just giving you shit. So Sherry was like, so many people said they came just to see me, no pressure, right? That was a lot of pressure. Why you come up to me on the day of my speech to tell me that you came to see me, and I was like, that's too much pressure. So tell us about this night with Margie around the campfire, what was so special about it? Was Margie just telling some stories or? Yeah, I just felt like a fan growing. By the way, I'm not the type to be like that. I never really am that intrigued by anybody ever. So Margie came and sat next to us in the campfire, and she just started talking about her stories. And I swear at one point, I was like in a dream, it was amazing. I could have listened to Margie talk for hours. She scared the crap out of me at one point, and I did not want to go back to my room because I was worried about being attacked by a dog man for the second year in a row. Like no joke, thank God my husband was with me this year. But yeah, we just shared stories. We look for UFOs. We were communicating with Sasquatch, and it was just special. That's all I can say. Thank you for hanging out with us because I really enjoyed your company and your husband's company. And our little group that we had because a lot of people were somewhere a few different other places, and we had a beautiful intimate group, which was hard because most people every night would hang out, which was great. But it's hard to really have an intimate conversation when the group is that large. So that night was really special for me. So that was a lot of fun. What kind of stories were you telling Margie? That was a lot of fun. It was fun hearing your stories too, Sherry. I think, well, I told a few stories about things that have happened to me in the past. But I think the most unique thing was calling in the UFOs. We kind of did it on like a mini CE5 with the whole group calling them in. And a few minutes later, I saw something to my right. A couple other people saw it and it just moved across the sky and stopped and it was kind of hard to see. It was kind of fuzzy, but at one point it kind of cleared up and it was definitely a triangle with three lights and it had real fuzzy, but kind of defined edges as well. And they just sat there and sat there and sat there in the same place for a long time. And so I'm thinking that given the fact that we had kind of called Val Thorin during my talk, that that was him letting everybody know that he was there, but it didn't come in close. He stayed far away. And I got the message that some of the people there were not quite ready for a real close encounter, up close and personal so, but they made themselves known and people saw it. And then a little bit later, I sensed that the Sasquatch were around circling the area. And then when I was talking to Sherry and some other people in their smaller group there was kind of quiet late later on in the evening. And all of a sudden I felt them moving close. So I just said, you know, let's just all look around in different directions and see what we see. And sure enough, maybe I want to say maybe 50 to 80 feet. A way, there was a big, maybe probably eight, nine foot tall Sasquatch who materialized, but he was transparent. It was a blue. Everything was blue, kind of like this real dull blue light, but you could clearly see the defined face, facial features, large male Sasquatch. I don't know if it was the one that I met last year named Ocondo, kind of think it might have been because he was the most defined of all of them. And then gradually as I looked around, there were there were others and other people in the group saw them too. So that was really a unique experience and one that you can depend on every time you go to that location. Yeah. So actually this reminds me the first night after the Skywatch we came down by the bonfire and I was sitting there with Sherry and a few other people in Sherry, you've seen something walk or run between the cabins or between the trees, can you explain that? Yeah. We were all hanging out and I think it was an exact same spot and in between my cabin and whoever was across from me, I saw like a very large shadow of like eight foot being just walk across and I thought there was something next to it, like another one. And it startled me because I wasn't even thinking about, you know, anything. And I was like, did anyone else see that? And nobody else saw it but me and I was like, I swear I'm not making it up. Like I just walk between the building very slowly, but like sideways, you know, like he's looking this way and I saw the side view of him or I assume it was him. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. So I was right next to you. I was facing the other way, but you saw it. So when you said it, I looked, it was too late. But the next morning, Alexia Eisenhower came up to me and she goes, Hey, what color to Sasquatch here? And like, I don't know, actually, no one's ever saying really about the color, at least not that I'm aware of. And she's like, well, my friend swears up and down that she saw one peek its head around a tree and look at her and it was white. And then, and then she said it walked it, it walked from cabin to cabin. And it was literally the same exact cabin that you saw something walk in between. And I asked her what time and it was minutes apart, like right as like right before we came down for the bonfires when she saw it. And so it was, so what I'm thinking is like, we've got some actual physical sightings this year, you know, not just, you know, not just to telepathic communication and, and the tree knocks and the vocalizations. Like some people are starting to see him and Marty, didn't you say that they, they told you that our group is doing event that they come in close for? Yes, they did. They told me that last year, when I remote viewed, when I got the knocks on the cabin and I knew it was Sasquatch, they said that they stay away. They're still in the area, but they don't come in close except out for this group. And it's because of the energy level of the group, the consciousness level. Right. Yeah. Thank you. That's amazing. Yeah. So by the way, any of you guys that are here, if at any point you have to run, you can just hop off or you don't have to stick around forever because I don't know how long we'll actually be here. So don't feel bad. Everybody leave right now. So somebody did have a question. Any idea who you'll be asking this present next year at the conference? I'd be happy if it were the exact same people. Just curious if there are any other people you're hoping to have. Definitely not having any of these people back. Yeah. Definitely not. No, so we don't know yet. That's a very tough decision for us to make every year and that will be disclosed way closer to the event next year. We'll try to change it up to a degree because we won't have the exact same conference. But we also don't want to not invite any of the same people back. So we have to make a tough decision every year of, you know, maybe we choose. And somebody said, well, you guys be speaking in Mount Shasta or any other retreats this summer. So I guess we could take this time. If anybody is speaking to any other events, I know I'll be speaking actually at, you know, at Margie Kay's event, Xcon in October 11th through the 13th in Springfield, Missouri. I spoke last year was the first year. This is the second year. And I know it's going to be even bigger this time. So tickets are available for that. I think at on X network.com is that right? And yeah, so grab a ticket to that. And Aaron and I are going to be speaking at an event at the end of September in Tucson, Arizona. The details are still being worked out for that. So and then I'll be speaking at Star Knowledge Conference in November, actually, I'm excited about that. And Tony, don't you have something you're doing in October? Yeah, I'm off to France at the beginning of next month for the Chris Asan's conference. And then I'll come straight back to Tampa or Tampa for the Brian's conference. Right. Then the one in September, I'll be at G-Sick in September and then in October, I'll be at Devara Thunderbeats, and then I'm hosting mine, the Odyssey Sedona Conference, that'll be in Sedona. Sorry, I'll keep that up. So that's my plug. I got my, I got my little flyer out for you guys. I'm hosting that. And then I'll be at the Team Light one at the end of that one. And then I'll be meeting you in November. I'll be out there with you, Tyler, at that one. So it's a busy year, I unreal. You got a lot going on. Yeah. Unreal this year. So you know what that says to me, that it's working. We're getting out there. Yes. You know what I mean? If every year we get busier, you have more people to talk to, more people that want you to do it. If it grows every year, that's the plan. We're getting the info. The idea is not to just get out to conferences and sell stuff. The idea is to get the information into the ears of people that never heard it. And that means we're winning. If every year it keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and people are doing better stuff. And the quality of the information is also getting better. Right. So that's the growing. We're on an upward trajectory now. So me, I'm blessed to be here. I don't, you know, who knows how one day I'll be chopped liver, it'll be the next person that's got better information that's coming and that's a good thing. But for right now it's growing. It's what we're doing is working. Yes. And that's a beautiful way to look at it. And your event in October, October 19, so I'll actually be there. I have Jackie too. Oh, Jackie's going to be there. Yeah. That's right. Jackie's going to be there. And Lillie Nova is going to be there. Aaron's going to be in Peru, which I'm kind of jealous about. Yeah, I'm going to be going to be in Peru, you know, which isn't amazing. How do you jealous about it? Yeah. Yeah. I am. I mean, you know what I mean? I'm like second, second fiddle already to that. Well, I'd rather be in Peru too. Right. So. Otherwise, I would definitely be there. But. So the one in your event, Tony, it's just a one day hit though, which is interesting. And Jenny, the truth is going to be a sponsor. So I'll be there doing something, but what do you want to just tell people about it really quick? Yes. My first one. So we did a one day year. It's going to be a fast, rapid fire format. We're going to have speakers in between speakers. It's based on meditation and the remote viewing stuff. So it's that kind of crowd that's going into Sedona. It's in partnership with the humankind meditation, like a big group of people that do meditations for helping the world really, really good, really righteous group. But we're going to do a retreat. I'm doing a talks with Tony, like a tier three retreat for three nights before that where we're doing targeted meditations, remote influencing, remote viewing workshops. So that's there. And then the main conference itself is at the global center for Christ consciousness, like a 200 people venue about the size of the room you guys get. And so it's a one day thing, rapid fire, the idea is that if it, you know, we pull it off, then they'll be in the, they'll be one in six months and maybe possibly in Phoenix. And then another one next year, they'll have a bit larger format. So yeah, that's how it came to be. It was kind of like just an idea we tossed around and said, you know what, let's do it. And so here we are. And yeah, so I'll be coming straight from Margie's event to that. So Margie, if you want to just tell our audience a little bit about the X con actually is what you call it. And just to let the audience know whoever's interested in coming. Yeah, X con this year is into the rabbit hole again, which was our theme last year, but now we're doing it once again. And we're covering several different subjects, of course, UFOs, ET contacts, Sasquatch. We've got Scott Nelson talking about Bigfoot language. He's one of our keynotes, Peter Robin is a keynote and Robins and, you know, Mothman, I've got some off and experts coming, not me this time. Just a variety of subjects and we're in the very haunted Oasis hotel in Springfield. So what more can you ask for? So we're definitely going to have a lot of paranormal events on Friday, including a ghost hunt and workshops with showing how people how to use equipment, with doing their ghost hunting, how to use dowsing rods. And we've got some really good speakers, vendors. Of course, we're doing our banquet or mad hatter, costume party and all of that. And I am also busy this year. I'll be speaking at St. Louis move on next month. I'll be a keynote speaker at the Geneseo Kansas UFO Festival, July 6. I'm going to be doing the advanced esoteric workshop over two days, June 1st and 2nd. Those are two full days that I'm teaching online. September 6th, I will be a guest speaker on the contact at sea crews out of Seattle to Alaska. And that's at contact@c.com. And if you'll use my name when you registered, that would be great. So we're hoping for a lot of good things to happen on that cruise, including seeing the northern lights and seeing some UFOs. Yeah, that cruise actually looks really interesting. And I guess it's actually, yeah. Is that contacting the deserts? The same people putting that on. It's not. Okay. It's a whole different people. Okay. She's got some really good good speaker lineup. 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You know, like if you have personal beliefs that it scares the crap out of you and you don't want to figure out what it is good or bad, it's just not a part of this path or this journey, then what works for me is to say, I'm not here to engage with you, leave. Or I'm not working. That's what I say. I'm not working. I'm talking. I always did want to work with them. So the next thing to say is, are you here for me? Because sometimes we're perceiving them because they're doing other work. They're showing up to get your attention for someone else where they're showing up for you. So there's like layers of understanding who or what it is. So then if they say, yes, I'm here for you, then you say, who are you? And you just take one level deeper, and if at any point you're like, I don't want this, you take a deep breath and power yourself and you say, I'm done talking to you, go. And nine times out of 10, that works. And if that doesn't work, you need to call someone like myself or Margie who does this for a living and get help, get guidance and get help. That's my best advice. But maybe Margie wants to weigh in on that as well. Oh, I 100% agree with everything you said, Jackie, yeah, they all have different objectives and reasons for being there. They can be attached to the property and just want to be hang out there, which is probably 80% of what I see in the field. It's someone who used to live there and they're attached to that space. And then in a few cases, the spirit is attached to the person. But if you don't know what you're dealing with and it's something strange, just give one of us a call or somebody local a call to come in to deal with that. Because if you get someone who's psychic or remote viewer, they can probably contact that spirit fairly easily and find out what their purpose is. Right. So basically, you're dealing with the real life Ghostbusters right here. Right. Yeah. And my often what's funny is because it's kind of scary, they do look like shadows often where they'll disturb things in our home and when people call me for that, the majority of the time, it's actually their relative, a loving relative trying to get their attention. But we're so programmed that the supernatural is scary, you know, that they just can't calm themselves enough to actually tune in. Right. Not to say there aren't, you know. Right. But Sherry, do you have kids that, like any advice for their children? Because I know you work with children all the time today, start seeing spirits and have questions about it. Do you ever deal with that? Oh, yeah. I mean, almost every single, every single client has that fear because their children can see so much more than we can see. Because as we get older, we close it off a lot of, a lot of times by choice. And actually, Margie and I talked about, at the campfire that night, we talked about this exact thing because a lot of the children that I talked to, they see the shadow beings with the red eyes, not all of them have red eyes. Some of them are just there and they're attracted to the light and they mean no harm, but they scared the children. The ones with the red eyes tend to be the ones that are there to taunt them because they have that high mentality and they literally go to torment children. That is their purpose. So the advice that I give to all of them, including my daughter who is severely attacked, not so much anymore because she finally listened to me after years of me trying to coach her, was they feed off, you know, they feed off her fear. So I just tell them to ignore them completely. Like you don't even care that they're there. You walk right through them. You don't, and that's hard to coach a child because they are so, it's so easy for them to show their fear because they don't lie, many, most of them anyways. So their natural reaction is fear and they feed off of that. But if you teach them to the children to be in control of that fear and to tell them, I even told my daughter, I'm going to cuss in a second, I apologize in advance. But I told my daughter, she had permission to tell them to fuck off. And she told me one time, she said, mommy, I did it. And I was like, well, did it work? And she said, yeah, it was gone. So sometimes you can assert your dominance and you tell them, I don't consent to you being here, but majority of the time that's not necessary. I teach them to just completely ignore them because the fear is what they're attracted to. But the fear is the loose they feed off of and that's kind of how I cause it. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's kind of a quick, a quickie. Right. No, I agree, but asserting dominance or just honestly, truly learning how to not be afraid of them, which that takes time. But like from me being attacked psychically and asked really for years, eventually you just once you understand the fear is just an illusion, whenever they show up and you're just truly not scared of them anymore and they almost look confused. They don't understand how you're not afraid and you just completely take their power away. You just suck the wind up in their sails and they either just like whisk away or they're gone. Like they can't once they realize that you're not scared of them, they've lost all their power and it works every time, but then I'm not gonna lie, sometimes they catch you off guard and startle you. And even though sometimes you try not to be scared, like it's still pretty freaky whenever you're actually seeing something, not just like psychically, but when you're seeing something, it's difficult. We were tested all the time and that's when that's when it really takes some strength and like, okay, you got to call in whatever it is you need to call in and I do that nuclear explosion of white light and you just have to like really be in your heart and once that blast of white hits them, usually they just fly away like Team Rocket from Pokemon, they realize that. Yeah, I teach, well, I teach children two things, one, I call it a light bomb. So exactly what you just said, I teach them to have their light bomb explode, but what works the most I think is when children are afraid is like calling on the animal kingdom. That works the most, this the most effective and they can't they can't believe it and they'll call them on their animal totem or the animal of their choice or the entire animal kingdom. And I've never once had a parent come back and tell me that did not work for their child. So that's that's even more powerful if there's fear, if there's fear, yeah, wow. Niarra Tony, you have anything to add to that? No, at the top of my head, no, I think that's better advice, they give you better advice than I'm gonna. Have you a blue light, you know, I put myself in blue light and I have a mantra that I sing. So I haven't had too much trouble, you know, I've been under such powerful protection. I remember I was staying at someone's house one time down in New Mexico and supposedly it was on Indian burial ground. So in the middle of the night, I started having a nightmare and I woke up and it was kind of scary, but I saw and I energetically saw my mantis being a spirit guardian is what I call them, not a spirit guide, but a spirit guardian is huge, really tall. And I've never seen him in this mode before. Normally he has these placid, opal looking eyes and these time when he was protecting me, his eyes were glowing red orange and he had his hands out like this. And there was there was like wings attached to the arms and he said, this woman is under my protection, leave now, and I thought if I was that person, I would leave. So I have had really strong protection around me, my laryn families around me. So I haven't really been bothered, but I did have that time with a shadow beam where I had to get control of my own fear and send it away myself. And I've been studying with a mystery school at the time Brotherhood of the White Temple out of Sedalia, Colorado, and I had little booklets from them. There was some words in there that made these things go away, but I didn't realize that. I had a nightmare and the nightmare was really scary and it felt like something was trying to get a hold of me like attached and control me. And so finally, I went to somebody's house in the dream, pounded on the door and I opened the door and I said, I need help, and then I woke up in my bedroom and whatever had been in my dream was in the bedroom with me. And that friend that I went to, he woke up at the same time of the night. We checked later together and I told him about my dream and waking up at three o'clock in the morning and he says, I woke up three in the morning thinking I should call you. And so I laid there and I was really scared. My little girl was asleep in her crib and I didn't know what to do. I was afraid to even move because this shadow being was over by the window, head and shoulders and faded out below the waist to nothing and there were no red eyes, but it was just really scary. It was like the energy in the room was like someone crashing their hands down on piano keys and every chord they hit was discord, how discord music makes you feel it's yucky. And that's how it felt in the room, really loud, even though it was no sound. It was energy. It was just really loud. So finally I just said, I can't keep up like this. I got to do something. So I went and got those books. I said those words and boom, they were gone. The thing was gone. Then I saw these three light ones being on the other side of the room, which I learned later was my Lauren family and they were kind of testing me. They were saying we're going to see if she can get control of her fear and handle this because she has some heavy duty things coming up in her life, which was going in the military and having the experiences that I had. And I feel like if I hadn't conquered my fear in that moment with that being and sent it away, I probably wouldn't have gone into the Air Force and had the experiences that I had. My life would have just taken a whole completely different turn. And it was very clearly a test, but I didn't realize it was a test until maybe five or six years later, it just hit me all at once that it was a test to see if I could conquer my fear, which I did. And that's a great point because I really do believe that a lot of the stuff we encounter like that is training, in a sense. It's a test. It's like somebody told me one time, but just look at it as training. You know about this stuff, you talk about it, you interview people, now, what are you going to do about it? And it's like the self mastery course that you didn't sign up for, but really you did. And it's true though, I'm like, okay, so how am I going to respond in this situation? Am I going to give it my fear or not? And then once you overcome that, they're like raptors, tests in the fence, they'll try new ways and new tactics. But then that's another tool in your belt. When you start to develop all these tools to start protecting yourself and clearing them. And eventually you can start sharing that information with other people. So if you are under attack all the time or it seems like it, you can find a silver lining and understand what you're learning from each and every attack or each and every experience. And then you can start sharing what you did and what you learned with other people because I guarantee other people are out there going through the same thing and they need to hear exactly what you'd have to say. And this is one other thing I'm going to mention here and I hope there's nobody out there listening who's too attached to their medical marijuana. But when I was having really bad PTSD and not able to sleep in apartments and stuff like that, I started smoking medical marijuana to help me get to sleep at night because I was seriously sleep deprived. I just had to sleep. And that opened the door to energy attachments, to entity attachments. And then a friend of mine here in town saw the entities that were attached to me and she told me somebody that could clear them. And I went to him and he says, "These are really high level dudes in the era. What do you do for a living?" And I told him about my experiences and my book and the things that I talked about and everything. And he says, "Well, that explains it." And he says, "These guys are here to really try to keep you under control." And he got rid of them and I stopped using any marijuana at all and no more problems. Right. Interesting. Yeah, substance abuse, obviously, it doesn't have to be abuse, but sometimes you open yourself up to that stuff. I mean, it's literally spiritual warfare right now. Yeah, I mean, back in your order and they come right in, you know? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Even prescription medication will do that too, especially painkillers. Mm-hmm. I'll see people's crown chakra just open wide open and they're not even protected at all. And things jump right into the crown chakra. Yep. So that's what possession can happen. You mean the people that are on pharmaceuticals you'll see that with? Yeah. Right. And also alcohol. I first noticed it years ago when I was playing in bands and be playing and then about towards the end of the evening when everybody was good and liquored up, there were these little things that looked like demons, winged demons that were about a foot and a half tall that were sitting on the wine bottles behind the bar in this place where I was playing with a house band. And you would see them jump out and all of a sudden the crown chakras of the a few guys that were there out on the dance floor would jump in to their heads and they would instantly change their personality. They'd be keep aggressive, angry, starting fights, being really rude to women and I knew what was going on and they were possessed. Hey there. It is Ryan Seacrest with you. You want to make this summer unforgettable join me at Chumba Casino. It's the summer's hottest online destination. They are rolling out the red carpet with an amazing welcome offer just for you. So don't wait. Dive in now and play hundreds of social casino games for free. Your chance to redeem real prizes is just a spin away. Can you join me. For most of them it was just a momentary thing. These were guys that would just go out on the weekends and drink. For people who are seriously drinking all the time the possession is 24 hours a day. Right. Yeah. Okay. I have a question here. Are some at least some if not all pharmaceuticals designed for that to allow entities to come in? Wow. That's a good question. I'm sure. I was going to say that the legalized marijuana that they have like I'm in Michigan they legalized it. It's not weed. It's got a host of other chemicals and it's not the same. It's way more. There's like a hangover and everything. It's not what it used to be. So the official study legalized it and then now these dispensaries have all these chemicals in it. Yeah. There probably is. You got to look at the money in big pharma they probably have a good read on a lot of tech that we are unaware of. Yeah. Yeah. And specifically the voice of God technology just from doing the research on that for whatever reason it works better on people who are using pharmaceuticals. The pharmaceuticals are work in tandem with that technology. It keeps you. It keeps the collective whoever is taking pharmaceuticals at a specific frequency to where the technology actually is more effective and that's in the in writing. So it's another reason they want everyone heavily medicated and the homeless people that are all walking the streets in the cities that are talking to themselves that are heavily medicated. Unfortunately they're guinea pigs to this technology and they're being experimented on sometimes. So they might be schizophrenic or they might be actually talking to someone on the other end of a device and Margie to your point about people jumping in whenever you're drinking and all of a sudden oh Steve's a completely different person when he's drunk. Well that's exactly right. When people wonder why relationships fail and stuff when these people go to the bars and they meet their spouse whenever they're drinking well their demon is meeting someone hooking up with someone else's demon and the only time that couple ever gets along is when they drink and that's what we have happening on a large scale and it's really sad but it's pretty apparent once you start becoming aware of this stuff. About trauma bonds and gets to very unhealed people with probably with team and attachments and any attachments getting together and then there you go. I mean alcohol has been forever it's like we've all heard all the stories or some of us have had experiences of like abusive alcoholic father or whatever you know and what we don't people don't think about a lot is what we just talked about that it's more than just the physical substance there's a spiritual thing going on here and there's entities attached and all that kind of stuff going on as well. Alcohol is actually called spirits. That's right. That's why it's called spirits. And then pharmacia means sorcery. That's what the word literally translates as and that's pharmaceutical like they're literally telling you you know what it is so there's that too. What are your thoughts on all this Jackie? So if someone books a medium session with me I say like please don't consume drugs or alcohol for 24 hours before because it would be similar to trying to tune in when someone's changing the channel constantly like I cannot get a clean straight connection. So that's experiential and then on the pharma side. You know I didn't know this and I'm not coming I mean this is just straight up statistics from my sessions with people but when there's a suicide if I'm connecting to somebody who's committed suicide I would say I don't know 80 to 90% of the time that person is on Valium. So I think there's something and I and when I tuned in and asked before I do feel like it was a tested substance and that it was known the spiritual impact it has on people. I do get that sense and this is only based on my experience as a medium. Right. So somebody just released some sort of form that showed the side effects of the prescription drugs and one of them was one of the side effects that was common across a few of them was actually suicide it was a legitimate side effect and this paperwork that's now coming out that they don't really release to they don't put it on the bottle. So how would you know that unless there's been studies done right. Yeah and it's always like well they started adjusting the doses and then within weeks or months the person took their own life it's super it's like it became a pattern after 12 years of sessions and now I just straight up asked you know if this person took Valium and it's more like out of research for myself but it is you know Valium is a muscle relaxer right and there's tons of muscle relaxers out there now but they don't have the impact of people who take Valium so I'm calling it out. Yeah call out the V. Yeah well there's a bunch of drugs that lists suicidal thoughts as a side effect and it's like if there's a drug that can make you want to take your own life as a side effect like what is that drug really curing for one and for two what other behaviors can they induce what other behaviors can they give you a drug for and induce you to do what if you I mean how unnatural is it to think to take your own life in the middle of your life so that's like the worst you know 180 on your own your whole existence what other behaviors can they give you in a pharmaceutical or on a potato chip or some other thing that make you behave a certain way if that's possible you know so right I was just gonna say why do they have antidepressants that make you depressed and suicidal they say it right on the TV commercials right right it's like you it's literally doing the opposite of what it's supposed to do right well and then to me it's like and then even even when they work it's it's oh it's basically usually just putting a band-aid on a symptom it's not actually curing anything right and then it keeps you it keeps the problem going because you don't actually cure the root problem so you know they got you for life for for however long you know nobody gets help or makes worse right nobody gets healthier on value in fact people long-term don't get healthier on no it's not it's not health care it's sick care and it keeps you suppressed and it keeps it just bandages the symptoms and keeps you keeps it going and keeps you suppressed and then all the along with all the other stuff we just talked about so like they don't want the actual cures they don't want actual you know the good things are actually helping because that you know and we can go down the rabbit hole obviously with it gets dark in my opinion and all that but like they don't actually want us healthy and cured because then where we can't be controlled you know to put it simply it's tied into the control system like the pharmaceutical is one of the biggest aspects the health industry is one of the biggest aspects of it in my opinion and you know why would they want us to be healthy and free and sovereign then they can't control us then we can take back our power which is what's happening anyway right now but it's like things are getting so bad right now and so crazy that people are waking up and be like oh wait a second there's something else going on here that things are not what i've been sold you know what what we've been told they are right can i just jump down a rabbit hole then real quick yeah yeah absolutely Jerry were you going to say something too oh yeah go ahead Jerry no i was just going to say ambient is another big one a lot of my clients that are are on ambient not only are addicted to it for five 10 15 years but they have a lot of suicidal thoughts on that as well so i'm just adding that that's another one out there that i feel like has an nefarious background that's all i'm just going to say that right all right let's bring us down this rabbit hole Jackie well so whenever we're on rumbles so anything goes correct yeah anything yeah so this is interesting because i just put this together right before the conference so when when covid was first coming out right one of the network of health care providers alternative wellness providers that i'm in and other psychics there was a text of like for y'all tuning in what are you getting for this so when i tuned in i got always look at the long game right these people are playing the long game and actually saw a fungal network like a fungus a fungal network lighting up across the globe and then recently as i've been like studying the weather modification i'm like why are they blocking the sun well uvc is like one of the best natural killers of fungus and so to now i'm theorizing because my dog just passed a cancer and i'm like i fed him raw we did energy work all the time he only got filtered water that mofo was loved he earthed every day he was in the sun like um but a lot of cancers now are linked to candida which is so i'm just like starting to put this together of like if we're looking at the long game and this increase of cancer in people in their 20s to 30s who were the easiest demographic to persuade to take whatever we're we're on rumble so we're the easiest to persuade to follow medical advice around this and if we're looking at not necessarily the virus but the outcome of the virus and i just have this like growing psychic suspicion within myself that it's it was actually to push cancer and the reason why we're blocking the sun is because this is a long game and the less uv see you get the more the mold grows so i'm just throwing that out there in case anyone has felt i've not heard anyone else talk about this so i'm saying i know i might be a lone wolf saying this but the more that's going on the more i'm like this is starting to look like something else this was not about a virus at all yeah and if you add the spike protein and the graphene oxide and the vaccine to that equation turbo cancers right right well look at the cancer rates that in the last few years are through the roof all of a sudden right when the jab comes out and this push this push in the 90s to get rid of tanning beds which i'm like they're not actually when i was going through low grade depression when i first moved in New York City this alternative doctor was like can you go to a tanning bed for 10 minutes a week for the next six weeks and get uv rays and i didn't it helped me and now i'm like why there's this elimination like don't go in the sun block the sun get rid of tanning beds and i'm like this is a long game that's going on this is not a short term thing yeah so yeah i'd like a vitamin d too if you don't get the sun that's the best vitamin d is my body does not absorb vitamin d only from the sun i can take pills all day well it won't stay in but i wanted to just mention that when covid first came out when the vaccines first came out i remote view the vaccines on a i'm about microscopic level and i saw teeny tiny black squares perfect squares they're not natural in nature i knew something was in there that was going through the out the entire body in the bloodstream and it was being directed to the brain so whether they're tiny computer chips something that they're going to release into the brain i'm not sure about that but i know it's something nefarious and uh my against my advice my husband took the vaccines do up them i'm sorry and oh my gosh he is so scared right now he is so scared because now he's listening to everybody else talking about it um and friends of mine have taken it and i'm just crossing my fingers i had two young men in our circle of friends who were under 30 years old are both dead because of the vaccines right to get back their hearts try to get your husband to go to an enhancement center because that could that could help correct a lot of that what is it called it's called an energy enhancement center it was developed by dr sandra rose michael and i've got a list here of the different things that it does let me pull this up here on my phone um let me just get it here okay and walleyr is looking for that i don't i don't ever want to scare anyone because i always think there's things we can do but you can detox yeah you have to know so you can address it yeah well so we actually bought the tesla medbed at the journey to truth conference and it's on the way so yeah i'm gonna do that definitely all right did you get the the vaccine detox sheet from her too or not i'm not yet but i'm we'll we'll be getting everything if not i'll send you one to a copy of it and it's it's a there's just great protocols on there but there's things to do like and like jackie said not like once you're aware that's the first step you can you can totally address it i'm i'm not in the camp where you're you're dying in and you're it's inevitable that oh you took it and you're screwed no that's not that's not the case at all well there's the things that the es system will do energy enhancement system it helps create its own stem cells for repair and healing helps the body create its own stem cells for a repair and healing cleans the blood that's a huge thing if you've taken the vax uh it optimizes mitochondrial function it helps to regrow telomeres which is an anti-aging effect and it helps repair the dna if you're at a facility that has 24 units or more and i went and visited this myself um twice now uh the first experience i had was in murray utah i went there and i and i had it for four days in a row and i came home and i felt like superwoman i swear to god i was rested it just and it and it went into my body and it took care of what i needed the most was which was to really restore me from all the years of uh sleep deprivation it really really was so powerful and like i said i really want to get it here in in pagosa for the veteran community and in our community at large um but because a lot of people can't afford the the travel expenses and the lodging expenses to go visit these centers i really need to have one in your home community if we can do it but your husband could really benefit from that Margie okay i will definitely check it out right yeah so okay round two name something that's not boring laundry oh a book club computer solitaire huh oh sorry we were looking for chumba casino that's right chumba casino.com has over a hundred casino style games join today and play for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes chumba casino.com over to the side over to the bylaw 80 plus strategic edition the plysy website details it's all beautiful yeah it's all beautiful advice and i think there's a number of factors of play and uh you know ironically you know you remote viewed it Margie and i was on a mushroom trip one time and i was shown i went i was shown what the vaccine was doing to the body and you know they always give you those visual analogies and they showed the human body but as a machine and there was you know gears in the body they showed it to me as a machine and they showed they showed the shot going in and then they showed like the needle essentially breaking off one of the gears on the wheel and then now and then now that gear was slipping right and then slowly another another gear broke and another one it was like this cascading failure and it was like the body only knew the machine only knew how to run one way and it was like all of a sudden this gear was like slipping it was still working but the gear was slipping and then slowly started breaking down and breaking down breaking down and it was just a really interesting visual but i feel like um there's a powerful visual and that's i i fully believed the little black things that you saw maybe was the graphene oxide that we're seeing now or nano or nano high nights you know nano i did see an article recently about uh and this woman was just really shocked that they that this was happening but um she did some kind of research that she looked at very thoroughly and some of the things that are in the vaccine or in the human body building their own little uh microscopic ai inside the human body yeah that's scary what could go wrong you know what could go wrong right yeah well Jackie you're not in your head to that did you have any experiences surrounding that there's just multiple without a doubt multiple objectives going on it's not one soul like it's not all cancer it's not all it's like there is a nanotechnology for sure there's weird things coming out of biopsies from people like non never seen before and certainly not biological like there's no doubt to me that there's multiple objectives through this through the bathroom yeah yeah right right um i just want objective it's it's it's a bunch and sometimes it's like what they do to us is like epoxy glue they get us to get one part of it into us with chemtrails or something like that and then they introduce something else like you know 5g or whatever and that's the other part of the epoxy and then there's a breakdown in the health of people that have been duped into you know putting things in their body that they shouldn't have yeah yeah along with where your frequency is at so also it's going to affect you way more if you're at a lower frequency i think in my opinion so like the more you can raise your frequency and heal and strengthen your energy field and all that the less it's going to have an effect on you yeah as well i want to mention one thing so going back i knew y'all would join me in the rabbit hole by the way oh yeah he hopped in here like what he hopped i didn't jump down and i hopped okay go ahead 30 i want to say one thing that from my experience from the time that i went through from the dealing with living with these people in seattle the mindset and the culture that i lived under they respected care so people that took care of everything like they respected that and they disrespected what they called dull hair so all of these traps to get us to deep population to deep it's across the board all of the traps that are laid to get you are for people that take a shortcut so look at the people that got vaccinated oh did i say that online but look at tromsol you were good you just didn't want to be bothered with it they said you got to do this you're going to get in trouble you're going to we're going to mandate the people that get it are going to not have to wear a mask but if you don't you're going to have to wear a mask if you do you're going to have to work a different shift you know they started to make it so you can travel you had to fight for it you had to fight for it the financial system is set up the same way if you don't fight for it and keep your peace and cues it's going to cost you they have it all set up to to diminish your quality of life and shorten your life in fact and nowadays even even put an end to your life if you're not on constant vigilant guard because that's what they believe in that's their mindset that they're constantly on vigil because they're all service to self people so they stab each other in the back constantly so they're constantly in a perpetual state of taking care of every little thing because my best friend is going to take me out because they're serviced to self that's that's that existence and so the people that are just set in cruise control us the people that are serviced to others have peace and so they don't and they take advantage of that they take advantage of the fact that you say well you know what i'll trust my boss at work is doing his job he would why would they lie to me i'm going to go why would the news lie to me i'm going to go ahead and just go with it so that's how it feels when you live at peace when you live in trusting with the world but these people have a different mindset that's what got them in charge in the first place of many aspects and so they worship people that are constantly vigilant and they demonize people that are not constantly vigilant and these traps are set up exactly for that so if you i mean if you took the easy way out you're paying for it right now yeah it's it's they're like bugs it's counseling it's all of it that it's school everything across the entire system is designed that way yeah right right it's killer be killed it's serviced to self it's like well if you took it and fell for then you deserved it you because you were dumb enough to do that this is their actual mindset this is you were taking care of yourself if you were taking care of all your business you wouldn't but you wouldn't it's your fault anyway i like that and they also tell you what they're doing the whole that's how their magic works too right and they're always telling you what they're doing they're like well we're telling you and if you're dumb enough to to not see that then that's on you it's your karma you know and you're and it's your fault right and that's their mindset um and it's also that's what i'm saying about the mindset behind it so that's how you can if by keeping an eye open for that mindset you can kind of see the traps coming i mean how many of us saw it coming yeah when it began i saw from day one people thought i it was obvious you know what i mean to us but we know what they're like and people that just trust the system blindly were like blindsided they had they had no idea but right i found out about all this information in 2012 or even a little before you know so like the people that don't know anything about that there is a control system or there are these dark agendas going on and then oh everyone get this thing to save you from the scary virus a lot of people they like you said they're naivete you know they just trust the authorities they trust what very very beginning of this whole thing back in what was it 20 the end of 2020 or something and they were starting with the whole pandemic thing i wrote on facebook and i can't find that post anymore maybe they deleted it but i said i smell a huge mind fuck on humanity coming you know right at the very beginning because i don't trust these people for anything and now after four or five years of this i trust them even less i say my trust in the medical establishment right now is at a negative 100 yeah you know negative a thousand just look at their look at their faces i'm not going to say the names but the people who were in charge in talking all the time on tv they're possessed they're evil exactly that's you know that it was their goal well they're right well i think they've woven a spell over the over and they've done it with indoctrination they've done it with programming they've they've woven this big spell over the population of the planet and there are some people that have not fallen into the spell or we fell into it and then had an experience that got us out of it and a lot of those people are all those people are right here talking tonight on this on this program and um we see the spell for what it is we're trying to wake other people up so they don't so that they can get out from under the spell but a lot of people are still under the spell and it's called indoctrination and and when the pandemic or the pandemic or the planned damage hit that's when indoctrination became deadly right first makes got really high yeah infinity are dying because they did nothing wrong they just trusted their doctor to do them no harm right exactly and it's in some people where it was it's nobody's fault that they that they went and got the jab or it's not like we're trying to demonize them because that's it's literally just not understanding and not knowing so we have to have compassion we're gonna say something Jackie basically in another way the same thing it's like a lot of people who got it don't have the same mindset as all of us here and they're like well I still believe that human beings are good that we need to do this for humankind which is actually a really beautiful thought but like everyone here is like these aren't humans we're talking about right here human beings are good these are not humans behind the agenda actually called me typhoid nary one time because I wasn't gonna get anything you know it's like are you gonna be one of us people oh I was ostracized from part of my family not allowed to go to Christmas because I was the only one who didn't take the jab I believe it yeah I've heard I've heard a number of stories so many stories but so that's where the real issue lies Jackie nailed it is that the most people they're not in the mindset they're not of the mindset that that somebody could actually be that evil and but that's the problem and actually when Jim Brewer was on Roseanne they had this amazing conversation about like he's like no like they are that evil like that that's what people don't understand the devil is everywhere is what he said and and that's so many people are naive to that because we're good people and true good hearted souls don't understand that another soul can treat somebody that way and that's what we're you know we're dealing with you know psychopaths sociopaths and quite literally not even human sometimes they're non-human interference right and like Mel Gibson said it best when he was describing Hollywood actually Tony you're talking about everybody stabbing each other in the backs and you know up there in the upper echelons well Mel Gibson was asking interviews like what's it like being in Hollywood he said it's like he goes basically it's like being forced to be friends with people that you know are going to stab you in the back he goes that's what it's like being in Hollywood and but that's probably the whole system not just Hollywood right and it was powerful when he said that so you know you don't become a billionaire by being a good person those people rely on you know putting step on on their fellow man to make a buck and they don't care what it takes so right it's just uh we have to understand that this they don't think the way we do and at the top of the pyramid it's not humans running the show and then and then you have entity possession and attachment going on with humans as well um and there's this whole pyramid of control and what what does the system reward it rewards when you when you go along with the agendas when you push the agendas when you uh fall into their traps and then it it um sensors and pushes out anything that's actually good in healing and like truth you know go past 100 years of like was like free energy trying to come out they squash it every time uh actual healing things coming out oh they squash it every time because they don't want it's a slave of system that that is controlling humans well there are humans going up the pyramid but the further up in my opinion the pyramid you go the more it becomes non-human and the more you have demonic stuff going on in evil you know you could call it evil dark entities and darkness going on that's not human we by the way we have like massive trolls in the chat right now it's hilarious i'm just leaving here i just deleted two of them that's funny yeah it's probably the same person yeah yeah he's just like creating a new account every time i deleted or something is that the same guy i have no idea but that's in the third one in a row and it's always something to do with president trump awakening i don't know it's funny yeah it's funny i didn't even you get to see him as right yeah so what are your thoughts on all this the globalist agenda is based on lies climate change is a try climate change is a lie okay this fact that the human beings are gumming up the planet with our carbon emissions is a lie they're suppressing free energy which would solve so many problems so that they can have their agenda and control yep no that's what it's all about and they're lying to us and they're using our children to sacrifice for adrenochrome and they're doing all kinds of crap okay we cannot have a world built with these people in charge absolutely no way boom so this is the elevator picture i was talking about earlier that yes there you go oh yeah right and the whole trick is that we've been giving them the power the whole time because you can sleep at the wheel and they they'll let their terrified of us waking up realizing we have the power and that they are the tiny few and we are the many and the second enough of us wake up it's game over and that's happening that's underway right now i just got it we got to keep that going it's even more than that they have been farming and managing our consciousness down through the ages to indoctrinate us to produce a world that they control us and when we are young jailers because we created it from their indoctrination right create matrix from their indoctrination oh yeah we're doing it to ourselves because they manipulated us into doing it through thousands of years right yeah so we got to wake up and take realize we've been programmed indoctrinated to support our own slavery and our own uh yeah create our own dome our own hell on earth basically but there's a heaven on earth that we can create and there's both going on right now simultaneously i'm seeing both i'm seeing this a beautiful awakening and beautiful things and i'm also seeing this like darkness that's pushing really hard and people going down that road too that's why journey to truth is is one of the best platforms out there because you guys really go to the heart of it at so many levels in so many different subject areas you just really go for it and i think you're doing just a brilliant job thank you thank you thank you yeah i mean yeah we can't it's every it's all the guests that make are doing all the real stuff we're just here giving a whole space yeah the focal point brings us together you're the focal point that brings us all together and that's fantastic so Sherry what is your uh elevator pitch and he's back again all right of course he just see normally somebody and he unlocked his clown chakra i think that this what's happening right now not literally right now with the with the bots but i think in our collective awakening it's what i talked about in in my in my presentation and what's in a large portion of my book is the lion and the sheep you know historically we have been the sheeple that they have maintained through indoctrination as Neera has said um you know taking our power giving us the illusion that we're not sovereign all of these things that they've done to manipulate us and they are the lines they are the the small percentage that controls but i talked about in my presentation that you know this awakening has a lot to do with awakening the sheeple and the the lines because everybody has that line within them every single person unless you're an NPC or unless you're part of the system we all have we're all of our souls we're all sovereign and a lot of us are activating and the line within us is coming out and that doesn't mean that you have to be an activist and that you have to write a book or you have to be out and presenting and doing elevator pitches and changing people's mind it's just about being awake and just being about being conscious and just saying something is not right in this reality i don't know what it is and i may not have the words to describe it but i'm not playing along anymore and i think that that's what's happening people are not stupid they're waking up and they're saying i'm not buying into this illusion anymore i am sovereign i do have free will and i'm not playing along and in fact i'm going to break down your illusion because i'm refused to play and i'm going to play about my own rules and i think that that's what's happening and we're grateful to have journey to truth and many other platforms where people are coming together and they're they're collectively recognizing and transmuting the the fear porn and the sex magic and the voice of god technology because we are breaking it down with our light and as we evolve and as we transmute none of their technology works none of their shit works on us and that's it's failing and that's why we have bought in here right now because they can't stand the fact that we're winning so they're going to do everything that they can to break down the illusion of everyone else and to build themselves up when in reality they're freaking out right now because they know that they lost right yeah amen to that and honestly like if you want to know what like the perfect example of the parasitic consciousness is like this bot right now it's like literally a blood sucking parasite you just can't like do you there's no like these people can't survive on their own right they have to feed off of deluge from like putting other people down this is a perfect example of it um and uh this guy he just keeps creating a new account like he has like a million accounts so i'm just deleting them but it's a perfect example of the parasitic consciousness right i mean this is this is like what a demon possessed if this is an actual person it's probably just like exactly what i'm just talking about right here right government plant or a bot like there are i saw a bot farm you know the videos with the bot farms just one guy he had an entire room of devices and he's literally getting paid to troll accounts and he just goes in and starts arguments with people and for no reason and then they were he was interviewed and he's asked why do you do it he's like if he goes it feeds me and he was like this he was possessed himself he's like it feeds me i love it right he and not only was he getting paid but he was like it is a fuel source for him yeah so there you go to add one thing that for when we look back and we're talking about the elites and how you know we're led astray and everything the people that have been pulling this off that are still pulling this off the elites they stuck together all through history and they've had the information that we have now about consciousness what you know what we're getting out now people look around us like the people in the crowd know what we're talking about we have psychics that we're talking about dealing with entities and and people that have passed over like this information is come you couldn't say this stuff 30 years ago and nobody listened nobody knew about it the kids all know about it now i'm saying is these people have used all this information these abilities meditating and manifesting things for themselves all through history and now because of the medium of communication that we enjoy tonight together you know it's it's it's leveling out like their advantage is dwindling even though they have resources because we're accessing the same exact mindsets that they have so we can manifest things and there's more of us than them so it's because of the medium because the internet and the way the because we can trade information and a lot of us are you know we've walked away from the mainstream lies and kind of figured out what works and the whole mechanics of consciousness what's going on it's like um it's very hopeful you know it's not it's not depressing to think about it like we couldn't access this like everybody else in this chat during this meeting tonight you know 30 years ago i could not access your work it would i would have to get lucky i would have to get lucky to find one of you to learn what you can do you know any of us here and so now it's like it being everybody has access to us and like i said earlier it's growing it's the trajectory is upward for what we're doing so the people the people that were nefarious that had our knowledge the knowledge that we're all trading with each other tonight that have taken over the world with it and so now the knowledge is spreading out and that's real equality for all of us so i just want to make that point that's really good beautifully said absolutely i have an idea i'd like to throw out into the mix here for you know as a person who supports trump and i didn't all support him i'll tell you what i didn't vote for him in 2016 and you know i kind of had thoughts about him but i've really studied him you know the past several years especially during his presidency and i really do come to believe that his presidency derailed the globalist agenda and they've been struggling like crazy to get it back on track and because they're trying so hard to get it back on track according to their timeline timeline they're really revealing themselves to the population of the planet in a way that they might not have done had there not been a trump presidency and people are waking up and so i find myself thinking more and more and more that maybe the last four to five years has been by design uh call it q or the q drops or the anons or whatever you want to call it maybe it's been to by design as a way to deprogram the population of the planet at least as many people as can be deprogrammed from their indoctrination maybe that's what this has been all about the last four years yes yeah so i think like whether you love trump or hate him or whatever yeah i think it's undeniable what you just said is that that four years was a catalyst that derailed the global agenda regardless of if you liked him or not if you understand the bigger picture here i think it's pretty much irrefutable that evidence that that's exactly what happened and is still happening but and now it's like you know they've been so used to operating behind the curtains like wizard of eyes right and the curtain's been pulled back and we see every move every false flag every side to second they do it we're on it we were even before they do it we can predict that it's going to happen we understand we see right through it the illusion has faded we're destroying the illusion right um and and i don't think they they know how it's almost like they're glitching out they don't know what to do because as fast as they try to do something they fall flat on their face and they shoot themselves in the foot every step of the way and and ultimately it's you know just it's having the opposite effect and the dark always serves the light and you know really it's going to it's just they're it's their own demise you know the machine is consuming itself yeah and we're here and we're here doing our part and everybody's playing their part right now yeah i think of the the fembots in uh Austin Powers having a meltdown right yeah right yeah that's that's a great analogy um right and the in the harder they push because they're getting more desperate which means they're pushing harder which is waking more people up which means they're getting more desperate which means they're pushing harder which is it's it's a bit they can't win they can't win they're destroying themselves so it's like you know it's like sun's too hard of war never interfere with an enemy when they're destroying themselves that's what's happening right now and humanity is good humans are good at heart at the core uh we are connected to source and we just need to wake up in my opinion and and uh the more we can the more we can get in our heart and connect to our soul uh the less the programming works on us because now we're not stuck solely in our mind and that's where the programming can have you know keep us locked in and the ego and all that right yeah and i see that happens with like there's a the spiritual awakening at the same time is just the information awakening um and people realizing there's way more to reality and general than they realized like we're UFOs and ETs are real like that's that's you know more than i've ever seen in the last like five ten years uh mainstream is talking about it you know the ETs are disclosing them set like the UFO sightings are off the charts that's expanding our consciousness because we're realizing we're not alone more people than ever before realizing like it's not the kids kids are being born into a world where we're now alone and that changes everything right it changes everything right and Tony you know heart it is not to delete you from the chat right now Tony's trolling our chat yeah he's trolling the chat uh he's near muted yeah i'm not going to be outdone by that guy yeah so because somebody more of that came from well we got to change the tagline to tony wears diapers though yeah tony's new show is troll with tony Victor just had troll with tony yeah um anyway guys thank you so much thank you so much for being here tonight i guess we'll start wrapping this up this is a blast and we covered some extremely important topics i think uh we brought the trolls out so that's always a good sign and uh you know thank you all for being here and i wish everybody could have joined us who was presenting at the conference but it just gets to be too much sometime it's hard to it's hard to have that many people on the discussion so uh we you know if you're listening to this and you were at the conference you know we appreciate each and every one of you and you know thank you all for doing what you do and any final words from anybody that does anything you want to say before we go ahead and close this down stand your heart stay in your heart that's i think the end right that's that's honestly you know that's it seriously no i do want to actually i do want to say something before we wrap this up so uh you know i went out to dinner with my room at the other night and we were i was like where do you want to go and he's like i don't know i was like let's just get in a car and drive we got in a car and he's like what about that place is this i saw this bar drove past earlier like for whatever i'm like oh i think i know what you're talking about so we went there and he's like yeah that's the place and then how about that table in the corner sure we sat in that corner and i'm sitting here listening i overhear this uh this these two people at the table next to me i overhear him talking about archons and consciousness and chemtrails and and i was like did i hear archons long story short like we dig that guy like he he has been on this journey of this awakening journey and he hasn't found anyone yet and he was there with his mom he was he was probably my age or older and he was there with his mom he was even older and his mom was just so grateful she's like i can't believe you guys are here right now he has been looking for people and he is not doesn't know where to go and i told him about this local meetup and our podcast and he was just lit up from the inside out and and he was like started going off in his whole field and he had already come to the conclusion that love was the answer and it was just beautiful thing but he but because because he was talking because he was saying something in public that i overheard him that now he's on a completely different trajectory and he's gonna start coming to the monthly meetups he's probably even watching right now i don't know nice but it's it's it's the importance of talking about this stuff when you go out to dinner when you go out anywhere because you never know who's going to overhear you and you never know where it's going to take you and what it's going to lead to so that's what i'm growing yeah that's the point and sometimes it's your field because david eich said that you know you just walk around and you have truth in your energy field and you can walk down the grocery store aisle and and somebody is standing next to you buying a can of beans where you can't buy in a can of beans and they sort of have a new ideas hatching in there and then just because they were exposed to your energy field right right it really does trend that way a hundred percent yeah yeah all right so exactly that's we don't realize how much we're always affecting each other through our energy fields all the time whether we realize it or not absolutely exactly and um tony working people find goodbye tickets for your conference was honestly sadona.com i put it in the chat earlier let me see if i still have it copy and paste odyssey sadona.com for the october 19th tony his one day hit and i'll be there lily nova will be there jackie can you kind of will be there among many others and then marjie let the audience know one more time where they can get tickets for the unex or the x-con unex network.com slash x-con all right just go to unex network.com and click on it and i'll actually i'll add those into the description below i don't have those in there but uh yeah um i'll be at both of those events and we don't have the information yet for the one erin and i are speaking at in september does anybody else want to make any final announcements for any other events or anything oh maybe okay um my book's coming out in a couple of weeks courage to change the freedom movement i'm really excited about it so uh stay tuned for that and that's going to be just an amazon release or amazon and barns and noble okay great awesome yeah awesome so uh grab some tickets come hang out with us it's going to be a fun year of conferences and events and uh you know i know erin's got some amazing trips planned and and uh we're we're just going to have a lot of fun this year and make the best of it so we love you all thank you for being here and until next time have a great evening good night bye all right good hey guys it is ryan i'm not sure if you know this about me but i'm a bit of a fun fanatic when i can write i like to work but i like fun too and now i can tell you about my favorite place to have fun shumba casino they have hundreds of social casino style games to choose from with new games released each week you can play for free and each day brings a new chance to collect daily bonuses so join me and the fun sign up now at shumba casino dot com sponsored by 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