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EP 278 - Margie Kay: 3 Months Missing Time In The Army Reserves - Military Abductions - SSP = CIA

Originally aired on 11/23/23
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Margie Kay:
Margie Kay is a veteran 40-year paranormal investigator. She is the Owner and CEO of the UnX Network and the Un-X Media publishing company, serves as Assistant State Director for Missouri MUFON, and as the Director of the OZ Interdimensional Communication Institute. She is a licensed private investigator in Missouri and owns and operates a forensic investigation company. Margie has completed over 570 UFO investigations for MUFON and over 1,700 paranormal and UFO investigations on her own.
Kay is a self-taught psychic medium and remote viewer and has helped to solve over sixty homicides, theft, and missing person cases for law enforcement, private investigators and individuals in the U.S., South America, and Europe. She also assists other investigators with unsolved UFO and paranormal cases. Margie’s natural abilities were enhanced by the extraterrestrial Valiant Thor, who visited her for the first time in 1985. Kay sees and speaks to dead people, extraterrestrials, and inter-dimensional beings.
Kay has spoken at over two hundred conferences and meetings nationwide including the Psychical Research Soci- ety, the Psychic Studies Institute, Missouri MUFON, Midwest Conference on the Unknown, Arkansas MUFON, PARACON, Nebraska MUFON, Mysteries of the Universe Conferences, Phenomecon and others. She has host- ed annual conferences in Kansas City since 2007. Kay also does presentations and demonstrates remote viewing for audience participants. Her specialty is medical diagnostic reading, in which she remote views the interior of the human body or vehicles. She always amazes audiences with extremely accurate readings. 
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Duration:
59m
Broadcast on:
04 Aug 2024
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So take advantage of that. Tonight, we are excited to have Margie Kay back with us. We interviewed her a couple months ago, I guess. It wasn't even a full year ago. And we covered some of her story that she's told before, but I was just at a conference with her in Springfield, Missouri, X-Con. And we were all sitting at lunch and she starts telling us about these three months of missing time that she's had in the military. And this entire story, I'm like, this sounds like a secret space program, military abduction story. And it turns out that it might be, and there's a lot of stuff coming through. And Margie's never actually spoken about this publicly before, so we're excited to get into, well, me personally, I'm excited to get into this and hear what she has to say and what's coming through. But thank you for deciding to come forward and talk about this stuff, because I think it's time. - Yeah, I think it's time too. I think there's enough hidden agenda going on behind the scenes and it's time to get everything out to the open. - Yeah, absolutely, so, I guess I didn't realize that you actually had a whole story where you were essentially forced into the military, and that's when all this stuff happened. That's what you were telling us at lunch. So if you wanted to just let our audience know how that all played out and how that happened, and I think the recruiter was even like, they couldn't get to you, so they got to your mom. Like, can you tell that story? - Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. It actually started when I was in 10th grade in Springfield, Missouri, going to high school there, and they gave us some type of an aptitude test, two or three hour test, and then when it's over, you go in and talk to the counselor, and the counselor called me in and he says, well, you scored really high on this test, and he said, you show a really good aptitude for engineering. Well, that wasn't surprising because most my grandfathers were engineers, and both of my great-grandfathers were engineers, so maybe that was in the DNA, but I had no interest in it at that time. All I wanted to do was play my bass, to play and acting and things like that. I really wasn't interested in anything like that, but he forced me to take the only class that was available, which was an electricity class. And of course, there were only guys in that class at that time. Girls didn't take stuff like that then, and I felt very out of place, but I really ended up enjoying the class and learning a lot, and so it was kind of fun. But then the next strange thing that happened was, my junior year, then we had moved to North Kansas City, Missouri, went to North Kansas City High School. They gave us another aptitude test, and the counselor called me in, and he said, "You know, you really scored high on this test. "I think you should think about joining ROTC." And I was like, "What? "This is a military thing, you know? "I had no interest in that whatsoever." Well, my mother actually tried to talk me into it as well, that called her, I guess, and I just refused. I said, "No, I've got too much going on. "I'm playing in every band there is. "I'm doing music. "I'm gonna be a professional musician, and that's it." So they dropped it, and then my senior year, I came home one day, I was 17 years old, came home, and here is this military guy sitting on a chair in the living room with my mother, and she introduces me, and I'm like, "What is going on here?" And he said, "Well, we would really like for you "to join the Army Reserves." And I said, "Why is that?" And he says, "Well, because of your test scores." And that's basically what he said. And I said, "No, I'm not interested in that. "I'm a musician, and I'm not interested in military." Well, the guy came back two more times, and my mother was very insistent about me joining, and they told me all the benefits about how I could go to college at Wernsburg. I could just go one week in a month and go to the meetings, and then two weeks out of the year, go to camp somewhere. I said, "Okay," and I would earn extra money. So I finally gave in and joined. And, but then things got a little strange. I was only allowed, and I would report to this place on Gay Street in Wernsburg, that was the National Guard. Well, first I was in the Army Reserves in Kansas City, and then I transferred to the National Guard in Wernsburg, because that's where I was going to school. - Really quick before you move on. So when you say like, I just think it's peculiar that your mother was so insistent as well, like what do you think, what conversations do you think were going on for her to be pressing as well? - Right, right. - I think it had something to do with my psychic abilities actually, looking back on it now. It was not only my test scores, but it was my psychic abilities, because, I mean, the whole family knew about that obviously. And, but there were some strange things about both my mother and my father that now, I wish they were still around so we could ask some questions about it, but it was very odd. When I was 17, my mother divorced my father, and that's why we moved to Kansas City. The first job she went to apply for was at the federal building. So she was taking the GSA test or whatever that is. And I waited there, she had me go with her, which I thought was strange, and I drove her down there, and I waited in the lobby. She came down after about four years, and I said, so how did it go? She goes, oh, I only scored at G15 level. And so I thought that was a really low thing, and she wasn't interested, so we left. I found out much later, that's FBI level. Well, she worked at Tension Envelope, downtown Kansas City, close to the federal building. And oddly enough, another person that I became acquainted with later with an experienced group here in Kansas City worked at Tension Envelope with my mother, knew her, but he said there were multiple UFO sightings right around that building, and he had hundreds of photos of UFOs around that particular building. - You know, you know what's interesting, so my grandfather, my dad's father, was worked for Tension Envelope, and he was also in a national guard. It just, it's really interesting. I don't know which location where he worked exactly, I don't know if it was Kansas City, but still just, you know, I find it interesting, ironic. - Well, that building was strange, and it was owned by the mayor of Kansas City. Anyway, yeah, okay, well, that just adds to the strange coincidences, and my father also had strange things happen. He used to work for Encyclopedia Britannica. Now, here's the thing about my dad, he had a super high IQ, he was a genius. And why he was a salesman for Encyclopedia Britannica is beyond my comprehension, but he told us several stories, and one of them was when he went down to the basement of the building one day, there was a door that was always locked, and it was never marked. He never asked a question about it, because well, his buses were mafia. - Okay, really? - And he'd also seen CIA and mafia meetings in that building, in the basement. Okay, I'm probably gonna get in a lot of trouble for talking about this, but he said one day he walks through the hall down there in the basement, and the doors open, and he looked in there, and here's a military man in a military uniform watching about a hundred television sets that were on the walls, this is 1968. - Wow. - And the guy says to him, hey, come on in, you wanna see this? Well, you don't have somebody who doesn't know anything, who's not connected with military, come in and watch a military operation. That just doesn't make any sense. - No. - And so my dad looks at these TVs on the wall, and he's like, what is this? This is just people walking around, doing their business, everyday stuff. And he says, oh, we have cameras in every single television set that's sold. So when we need to keep an eye on someone, we can just dial into that set, 1968. Now, we know that's happening now, with our smart TVs, but back then, - Yeah, that's 60 that was happening. - And it gave him this secret information that shouldn't be disseminated to the public, back then. Anyway, so I have reason to believe that my dad and my mother were both involved somehow with government. - Yeah. - And then they both could keep a secret. So they were very secretive about it. But anyway, there had to be a reason why they wanted me. And I think it was because of my psychic abilities. So the thing is that I was going to every month, go to this building, the National Guard building, but I don't remember anything other than going down the hall, going into the office, and they kept me out of the main area. They did not let me do maneuvers or anything with the guys. The guys were 300 men and me, one woman. They kept me in the office, I think, to keep and stay away from the guys. But I don't remember anything about anything I did there. I don't remember my work, I don't remember what I did. I was just know that I was there for two days out of the month, and then I'm gonna go home. But then I would also have really weird things happen like very lucid dreams, sleepwalking quite a bit, talking in my sleep. My husband would find me outside sometimes and then have to bring me back inside and wake me up. And I would always wake up dead tired in the morning, just exhausted like I had been working all night. Well, I just attributed that to being a mother of two young children and also working and just everyday life stuff, I just attributed it to that. And then quite some time later, I started having instant recall of being in classes. I didn't remember taking, of having flying lessons and learning about how planes work and mechanics, just all kinds of things on every subject that you can imagine. And I actually remember leaving the planet to go to another planet for instruction to go in a classroom starting at age nine. So I had started having instant recall of things like that and connections with military that I couldn't explain. But about six years ago, this man came to me actually through another person and she recommended that he talk to me. He had come to realize that he had been involved in the secret space program and he had obtained his military file, which was like an inch and a half or two inches thick, brought it to me to look at and he said, he just started showing me pages and pages of the certifications that he had, that he had no recall of taking any classes in those things. And here he had all of this Morse code, whatever, all of these certifications. And the only way he was able to obtain those files was with the help of Ike Skelton, our representative here in Missouri. And it took quite some time to get this. Well, he asked me to remote view because he had, he didn't have the whole story and wanted me to review it to see what I saw. So the very first time I remote viewed this, I saw he and I sitting in a classroom at Whiteman Air Force Base. At night, it was dark outside, there were windows and I could see it was dark. And there was a really tall Russian man who came in to speak, to teach a class and there were a male and female military people standing watching the classroom. And there were several of us there, there were at least 15, 20 people sitting in that classroom. And I said, oh my gosh, and I got out of that. And I said, you're not gonna believe this. And I told him what I saw. Well, we looked at our timing. Well, that time for him was 1978. This was two years after I was officially out of the military discharged. Well, but I was living right there. So I could easily have left at night, gone to work at Whiteman, come back home and not known it. And I've since found out that that's how things work, that that's one of the ways that they work, that they actually use people at night to work and they're not paying them extra. But basically once you sign up for any branch of the military, they own you for life. They can recall you to active duty anytime like they did to Jesse Marcel. He was old when they recalled him and he was flying helicopters. And who knows what, I mean, I used to think this was a conspiracy theory, but now seeing this myself and start to think, I wonder if that's what happened to me. I wonder if I was involved in that. So I actually stopped by that, the recruiting center in Warrensburg and asked them for my records and they said, no, we don't have them here, but here's where you go, gave me the information and I requested my records. Well, I got a letter and one piece of paper. And then one piece of paper was me signing up. And that's it. And in the letter, it said the rest of your record is at the Pentagon and it's inaccessible. - Wow. - So I'm just putting two and two together here and realizing that, yeah, I was likely involved in that. - So really cool. - Well, go ahead. - You mentioned noticing a physical change. Like at the end of your time, you said you were like more in shape. You had like, you just physically looked like you had been working out and doing manual labor and things of that nature, but you don't remember it, but you do remember looking different. - Oh, yeah. When I went to boot camp, this was in the summer of 1975 in May, I was only supposed to be gone two weeks because at that time, if you were in the reserves of the guard, you only had a two week basic training. Now they had six weeks or eight, but it was only two. And so I went through all of this and I have recollection of a number of classes that I thought were too advanced for what we were doing. You know, it just seemed like it. And then we pack up two weeks or over, go home, get off the plane. My family didn't even recognize me. I was tan, I was very tone, strong, healthy, and they were just like, wow, well, we're driving home. And my mother says, oh, we're gonna have to get you some clothes for college because it starts in, I don't know, it was like a week before college started. And I'm like, what? How is that possible? I just left two weeks ago and it was May. And nobody said anything and nobody thought that was weird and we just never discussed it. But I had three months of missing time and I have no idea where it was or what was going on. I assume I was at bootcamp in Mobile, Alabama. But yeah, all those memories are wiped. - Wow, that's very telling just to have like, we hear this a lot, you know, just like this whole missing time aspect but the only other person who we've interviewed that has said specifically three months of missing time is Nyara Eisley, she was in the Air Force and she was taken kind of a very similar story. She realized after the fact that there was three months she couldn't remember. And I think she got a lot of her memories back maybe through hypnosis, I'm not sure but her memories weren't great, you know. - She was terrified because she said she hasn't, she has an extremely good memory. And she knew for a fact there's no way she would just not remember a whole three month chunk of time. She's like, there's just no way. And so when she was going through her memories with somebody and she got to that point she got really scared all of a sudden 'cause she's like, oh my God, I can't remember a whole this whole three month section here. And then when she was regressed and got her memories back then it was all this secretive stuff and she went to the moon and all the rest of it. But it was horror. Her experience was horrific. It was one of the really dark things unfortunately and unfortunately a lot of these are. So it's almost like not everyone's prepared to get those memories back because they can be very traumatic, extremely traumatic. - Right. So what has that been like, well, where were you going next with the story if you remember before? - Well, I was gonna mention in the second remote viewing I did for this other gentleman and after I figured out we were involved in this together and this one was wild. I was once again at night at the Air Force Base standing outside a very large building and to my left was the commander and to the left of him were a lot of brass that had been flown in to watch this event. And I had a clipboard. It was my job to tell the people coming out, the soldiers coming out, they were in uniform and they each had a really huge duffel bag that they were carrying and they would come out of the building and I would tell them which craft to get into. Now the craft were two landed vehicles with their back ends facing end, but they were at an angle. So it was like kind of like a triangle in front of us and they were each at one of those triangles on this big tarmac. The back end was open and it was a ramp to walk up into and it was kind of squared off in the back. And I'd never seen vehicles like this before and they would, the men walked in. I think it was all men. There might have been one woman that went. And so they loaded up these vehicles, closed up the back end and they took off. And they both took off in the different directions going out to the main tarmac. And I knew somehow that these vehicles were flying directly to the moon and that from the moon then they would get to Mars. But they're using a wormhole and they would get there in a matter of minutes and do service time there. You know, there's a base on Mars and they're doing work there. I don't know how I know that. I just knew it. And so I did not see myself going there. I just was helping other people, you know, get to the right place. So then the other thing is that I'm having memories now and just recently of being in a remote viewing program and being trained to spy on people and to hurt people. And probably take out bad guys, whoever those might be. And it explains some of my very strange abilities. One of them being, I found out a few years ago, I killed a fish. He was an angel fish that I put in my fish tank. I had a saltwater tank and I had some of those clown fish and things in it. And when I went to the fish place to get something else because I had this huge tank, the only couple of fish in it. And he said, oh, that fish will get along with all the other ones. Well, that's a total lie because angel fish, you know, will attack things. Well, the angel fish attacked and killed my other fish and ate them. And I was mad, I was just really, really angry about that. And I just pointed at that fish and I said, you're dead when we, and my husband was there too. When we got home, that fish was floating on the top of the tank. And my husband looks at me and says, Oh, you're going to have to be careful about what you're thinking, what you're doing. And we kind of joked, laughed it off. And then not long after that, my daughter, who's my bookkeeper and my secretary played a really bad April Fool's joke on me. And and I was, I was mad at both of them. And I had this little thing I do with my, with my fingers. And I just goes, you know, like, yeah, they're being electrocuted or something. Just funny. I did that to both of them. They both instantly got sick and they had to even be off work for the whole next day because they were sick. And so then I'm realizing, Oh, maybe this is real. Maybe I really need to be careful about what I'm thinking and doing and where I'm pointing. And so, and then, of course, you know, about my remote viewing ability and my psychic abilities, which, you know, I've had some assistance with that. I know the valiant Thor has been involved, but I, but now I know that I have received training, military training to do that. And I don't know the whole story. I was, you know, I don't know if I want to know the whole story, but I know that there has been some involvement there. And it just, it's very disturbing. Yeah. I mean, so the guy you were reviewing for, does he have abilities to? Does he have a what abilities as well? Like you do, like psychic abilities? No, no, so I didn't know because you remembered being like in classes with him. Was he we were in a class? Yeah. But I think it was more of a technical class. I was a Russian teaching it. And of course, the Russians are known for their psychic work, but no, this guy doesn't have any psychic abilities. So the craft that you saw going to the moon, would they resemble like the TR3B's at all, the black triangle crafter? Was it something different? No, no, they didn't. They were had a very wide rectangular back and then a a pointed front, but it was curved at the front is more like a nose cone of a plane and very, very short wings on the sides. And it was tall as well. Interesting. It looked more like a space shuttle kind of type thing, but not exactly. Really interesting. And they were dark gray. And yeah, and so and with Tom, which air force base or what base was white men air force base and 10 miles from Wardsburg. OK, do you recall seeing any ETs and any of the remote viewing and memories working with the military on earth or not? No, I don't doubt the connection, but I have not seen any yet. I mean, that's something that I really. Yeah, I probably should be regressed and I should probably remove you some more of that, too, to get more detail, but I haven't even wanted to pursue getting my records because I'm kind of afraid to look at them. Well, yeah, because if you have documentation from the government that's being that's inaccessible to Pentagon that says it has a whole history about your time in the military, all of your records that you don't remember. I mean, that's that's not easy to look at and recognize and realize that, wow, like why don't I remember this? You know, so not like Aaron said earlier, not everyone's really ready for that. But I mean, there's no doubt with your family's involvement. And then you tell, I think you said last time and maybe even in some of your presentations about overhearing the conversation with your father about that one building, which I can't remember the name of, but being used as a communication tower for extra trust bills. Yeah, yeah, that is the RLDS temple, which is now called the community of Christ temple in Independence, Missouri. It's in 1968 again, my father came home one day and he said he had just had dinner with the elders of the church and they were talking about something very strange. Well, he knew I had an interest in UFOs. So he told me and the whole family that they were talking about how could they build a structure where they could hide really tall antenna and that nobody would know, so nobody would know what it was. And the purpose of it was to communicate with extraterrestrials. And we all said, oh, that's nuts. That's crazy. We didn't believe it at all. Well, I left town and I moved to Seattle in 1985 and it came back in 1986. And my fiance said, you need to find us a house because he was busy working. And so I looked something up and I found a house in Independence. And I was headed to go look at it, driving down Lexington near downtown Independence and here is this building that I've never seen before. It's a spiral shape. It's made out of steel. It looks like the inside of a seashell. And I mean, it's it's up there. It's at least 300 feet and then there's a tall antenna on top of it. And I said, oh, my gosh, they did it. They hit an antenna in there. And the reason I knew that is because just before that. No, it wasn't just before that. No, this is later. I worked at radio station in Liberty and I got to know the owner. And I said one day, how is it that your station is broadcast so far out, so far away? Like some of these big 10,000 watt stations or 100,000 watt stations. He says, oh, I have a secret. He said, I have my antenna buried in a spiral shape under the ground. So his radio tower is not just 300, 400 feet. It's like a thousand feet of antenna. And so that just kind of confirmed what I was looking at. And then a really strange thing happened on my way home one day. I had a shop on the square and my daughter worked for me at the time and a storm came in with these weird clouds. And we were ramping up, leaving what she left before I did. And then she called me back right away because this road is like a block away from where my office was. And she said, you got to take a look at these clouds. This is crazy. They're almost down to the ground. Never seen anything like it. So I get out and I see these clouds that are very, very low. But over the temple, there's a cloud that comes down in this just perfect U shape, covering up the whole front of it down to 20 feet off the ground. Well, in Kansas, in Missouri, our clouds do not get that low. They never get that low. So I knew something was up. It was there was a weird lightning. You could see, but you couldn't hear anything. There was no thunder and there was no rain. So I get my cell phone and I managed to get a couple of shots off as this cloud is going up. Now it stopped so that it's still covering the antenna up. And then this beam of light appeared. It was going up from the antenna about a 30 degree angle. And I thought, what the heck is that? When this voice comes in my head. And it says, I am commander Thor and you are now watching communication from our craft to the people in the sub basement of that building. And I was first of all shocked that Thor was talking to me again. I didn't know he was commander Thor at that time. I had no idea who he really was. I wouldn't find out till later it was valiant. And so it confirmed what my father said about them using an antenna like that to talk with extraterrestrials. So I knew two things. There was a sub basement of the building and I was shown a picture of it. There were all kinds of dials and knobs on the walls that looked old. You know, like from the 70s. And they were somehow translating what was being said and then telling there was one man sitting there and then he was talking to people behind him, two people behind him, telling him what was being said. So this isn't this isn't the same building where your father saw the TVs. That was a no. That was the encyclopedia Britannica building in on the Plaza in Kansas City. Okay. Wow. I mean, I mean, this proves that there's there's more going on underground underneath a lot of these buildings than people know about because both of those cases, it's it was something underneath that was secretive that little no. And it's not like these secret, their secret facilities on a military base. These are normal, ordinary buildings that just go underground that the public would never suspect there's anything like that going on, knock a bill. The public would they would never know that there's all kinds of tunnels going underneath the Plaza going to different buildings and that people from the mafia and the CIA go to those buildings and then they go in the tunnels and they'd meet at this one place or that it's like the beat of Britannica is a front for the mafia. I mean, nobody, you know, I've never told anybody this. It at least it used to be. I don't know if it is now, but yeah, that there's stuff going on around us all the time that nobody is aware of, right. And just the fact that your father was even involved in that somehow, like you said he was a genius. He had this high IQ, but he wasn't involved in the military officially, right? So I mean, and I don't that answers the question, in my opinion, that you don't have to be in the military to be involved in these programs. Like the military makes it easy for them to own you, right? Like you said, and it probably gives them easier access to you. But if they need you for whatever reason, they'll find a way. And who knows, like some of these companies, like maybe the company, like tension envelope or something, a lot of them are like shell companies that that actually are, like you said, they're a front for something much deeper and then certain employees within that company will be like fast tracked through to through promotions into like a higher position, where they'll be introduced to somebody and like, hey, you know, this isn't really tension envelope, this is actually a CIA hub, you know, site B or something, you know, so yeah, or, or UFO central for downtown Kansas City with all the UFO sightings there. Yeah, it's just crazy. I mean, which you've done, you've written books on that. I mean, it's quite the hotspot. And in Missouri in general, I was just going to say, Missouri in general is tons, that's crazy in general is a very strange place. We have a little bit of everything here. Yeah. And I mean, we've got skinwalker ranch. We've got the Marley Woods, which is worse than the skinwalker ranch. And now I have a new place that's just north of Kansas City that I'm investigating. That is another skinwalker ranchers, everything there. There's UFOs, Bigfoot, orbs, giants, and gigantic birds that are transparent, but you can still see them that come out of a portal and then fly around and go back into the portal. And the strangest part of it is a spinning vortex that starts on the ground and there's a bunch of light to go around in the circle. And I've seen the video on this and then you see this vortex. It looks like a tornado. It's gigantic, absolutely massive on film. I don't think there's anything like it in existence that anybody has made public. And hopefully I will be able to go public with this pretty soon, but it's crazy. And it's in a very remote area and there's nothing going on there. There's no fault lines there. There is a river, so I've noticed a correlation with water, with a lot of these things. And that could be that could be it. But, you know, there just isn't anything geological that would contribute to it, like crystals or something like that. It's just limestone. Yeah, yeah, it's odd. Missouri is a weird place. So have you considered connecting with Thor and asking about your time in the programs or your missing time? Do you think he would be able to help you with that? Well, he might. I can ask him. Yeah, I haven't done it yet, kind of because I don't want to know. Right. A hundred percent, but, but yeah, I think I probably will. That's a good idea. So your mother and father, you think, were involved in some level. Do you have any siblings and do you think they might be involved? Well, funny, you should ask. I have two siblings. I don't believe that my sister is involved in anything. But my brother, who's five years younger than me, has had some very, very strange things happen. And he was in the Navy. And then he got discharged because he was injured. Some very, very heavy pipes fell on his back and it was odd. Anyway, he just recently had some very strange things. This happened where he had a lucid dream about fighting in Israel. And then he woke up with injuries, with knife wounds. And his wife is a nurse and took care of it. But there was no way that in his sleep, in his bed, that he could have received those physical injuries. So he's, he's thinking, he said that it was a hundred percent real he was there. And so I remote viewed it for him. And what I saw was a portal opening in his closet, a man in military uniform, come in and get him, take him through the portal and then bring him back later. He's, I mean, this we hear about people being used for single one night missions, right? This is Charles Hall, the tall white, the guy who discloses the tall whites. Aaron, you know, I'm talking about this, a document. And I was like, I forgot what air force space he was stationed at somewhere in the Southwest. And he claimed the same thing. He actually, he had memory of it though, but he was being taken nightly to do exactly things like you were talking about earlier, Margie, to go like work, essentially. And then you put, put back and then you're exhausted in the morning and all that. So I just wonder how many people this is happening to, you know, and, and what does that mean? If somebody is being taken out of their bed through a portal to go fight a war right now, I know David, I talks about this super soldier technology that we have, that can a super soldier can basically just manifest behind enemy lines. They don't even have to get through, they can just infiltrate a facility by dematerializing and materializing in, in whatever location. Yeah, he, he just had too much detail about that situation for it to be anything other than real. I mean, he described the uniforms, the people that he was fighting with in Israeli and another American, the three of them worked together. They got blown back by a blast nearby. And in fact, he just went to the hospital with an injury to his shoulder that is unexplained and happened within a few hours after his return. He noticed this and they still don't have it fixed. They had, they haven't even identified what the problem is and he can't move his arm. This is currently. Yes, right. That's going on right now. Wow. So your brother, we were talking about this before we went on air here. We just at the conference, he experienced a very strange paranormal event where he also received an injury. And would you like to tell that story again, just for the audience? Well, sure, we had X con at the Oasis Hotel in Springfield, Missouri. And going into it, I had no idea it was haunted. But people started from the first day of the conference saying they were seeing shadow people and things on the ceiling, things like that. Well, by the third day, we were, we were actually just packing up, getting ready to leave and my brother and your dad were folding up boxes to go into the recycling there and my brother just saw the sudden dropped what he had in his hand and he grabbed his face and he said he saw a spear coming at him that looked like a very old fashioned type of spear and he just turned his head to avoid it because it looked like it was going to hit his eye and it just, it hit right underneath his eye and was very painful. He said it felt like a knife going into the bone. And and there he had this big old wealth and your dad saw it as well. I took a picture of it and strangely. And he's never, he's never told me of anything like that happening before. But oddly, the next morning, my husband and brother and I were each driving separate vehicles. We needed to get theirs gassed up. So we stopped right across the street from the hotel. And they were getting gas and I didn't need gas. So I pulled up a little bit away and I see this guy jogging with a spear coming around the corner, headed right into the gas station. It was like a seven foot long spear. With this point, it had been carved. It was made out of wood. And we thought, what are the chances of something like that happening? You never see that. Never, you never see it. Um, yeah. And then so then I found out that that hotel is very haunted. And I, you know, I asked some of the staff and they go, Oh, yeah. And the hotel next to it that they also own is the campus hotel and it's famously haunted, but those spirits come over to this other hotel. And I said, yeah, there's more than that going on there. There's a lot more going on. So I just, I just think it's interesting that he had the wealth, the physical wealth from like a, a, a, like an invisible spear, right? Like, so it's almost makes you wonder how, how that, what's going on there? You know, who was throwing a spear? I mean, I don't know. Energy manifests physically. So that's why when there's something wrong in your energetic body, it always manifests as a physical disease or a ailment. Yeah. So it's the same concept. Yeah. Mystery solved. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, generally speaking, you know, that's, that's how I understand it. Is that whatever that was, it, it affected his, some kind of his, either his energy body or his after body, or one of those. And then it manifested as a wealth and the exact spot that it hit him. I mean, that's not a coincidence. But you know, you know all about that. So if you want to elaborate. Well, no, you're, you're right on Aaron. Okay. Thank you. Good to know. And there was also the Mothman activity at the event, which during your, during Margie's presentation, her computer, her slideshow, just quit, quit responding and quit working. And I don't remember what the issue was, but it was like unreasonable. I was up there on stage trying to figure it out. And then this other girl, I'll let you tell the story, Margie. Well, as I was talking about Mothman, which, and this happens ever since I got involved instead of doing cases in Kansas City and finding out how many Mothman sightings there are, I now have sort of an attachment to it. And I know when it's around. And if I'm talking about it, it, it usually comes around. So I'm talking about it on the stage. And then I felt its presence back to my left behind me. And I could, I could see it remote viewing it. It's about seven feet tall, wings, all black and just standing there, not doing anything. Well, one of the gals in the audience was several people saw it, but one of them was Michelle Roos, she had done a talk on demonology. And she came out to me and she goes, Margie, there's a Mothman stand behind you. I go, yeah, I know. So she has this spray that she created to dispel negative energy. She sprayed the area and then all of our electronics that started working again. Right. Instantly almost instantly started working again. Also not. So yeah, after I was done talking, I could feel that it was still there behind me or with me, it was walking with me. And Eric with, what's the name of the CBD? Well, farm. Well, farm. Yes, yes, yes. He, he, he creates his own CBD. And I, and I like what he does. He's, he sends good energy to the plants while they're growing. And then while he's creating the product, well, anyway, he gave me a dose of that. He came over and gave me a dose and then he walked back. And then I suddenly realized I needed to talk to him about something. So I started walking across the room. I could still feel the Mothman behind me, but now it starts to move. It goes behind me to the right. And then I just flung my arm and it took off towards the kitchen. And I never saw it again. And I think what happened was the vibration of the CBD. And, and also Michelle had sprayed me with her spray. I think that, that combination of that high vibration made it leave. It couldn't stand to be around that. Yeah. It very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, yeah, Eric, I love that. It's one of the reasons we're affiliated with Hopewell Farm because of that, that exact reason, you know, I'm setting the intention in the talking, sending positive energy into the plants. And then the whole process, it's all very spiritual, I guess. He does everything right with making the CBD quiet, some of the best CBD. Yeah. Cause he does things like that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's interesting. I never really thought about it, like raising your vibe. So the negative entities would actually stay away. Because a lot, a lot of times CBD, marijuana, or any of these, you know, any, anything like that can be labeled as something that would bring in negative energy. But we don't really think about it having the opposite effect. If it's done, if it's grown ethically, right? Yeah. I, I think he's going to have to, I'm going to have to talk to him about starting a, a new line of anti-Mothman CBD. Yeah. Because it raises your energy level, your vibration. It's amazing. An entity protection CBD. Yeah. Anti-Mothman is better though. Anti-Mothman. I'm going to copyright that real quick before I call him. Right. Yeah, you need to copyright that. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's an incredible story about the whole, the Secret Space Program stuff, if that's really what it was. But technically that's what it would be, a space program operating in secrecy, right? Is there anything else that you'd like to share with us, you know, surrounding that whole, you know, revelation that you were involved? Well, I think it's kind of strange how it's taken so many years for all this information to unfold. And if I had known early on, I would have, I would have been able to ask questions and take notes and keep records and things like that. But as it is, all I have is that one letter showing me joining. And the letter confirming I was in and that my records are not accessible. And I've got a raincoat and a patch. And it's all the proof that I have that I was actually there. But then, you know, like I said, I was out in 1976. Obviously, I was still doing something in 1978. And I'm not, I'm not exactly sure what happened. And I want to uncover the rest of it. I think it's time and I really want to know what happened. Yeah, I don't think it's been afraid up to now. It will understandably. Well, and it's interesting, you know, you didn't even decide to tell that story until at lunch until you heard someone else tell a story. And that's what happens. You you're not really comfortable until you start hearing other people talking about you're like, Oh, wait, like, like they're saying it out loud and other people are receiving it well. So they won't think I'm crazy. And you felt comfortable to share that story. No, you at least still there's an audience that will hear it and will believe believe you right because a lot of times people will kind of will just think no one no one's going to believe this. So I might as well just not. Why would I share it? Everyone's just going to think I'm crazy or it's going to negatively impact my life. Well, if they know there's an audience that they can share it with and will be like, Oh, wow, that's, you know, believe it. Right. So yeah, the more of us that can share these things, the better, the more we'll enable everyone else to share. And then it just snowballs, you know, so that's why this is so important. I just remember sitting there at that lunch table. You know, I was caught off guard when you started telling that story because that's right at my alley. Like I've always researched in the super space program. It's one of my favorite topics. And I just wish that it was like a record button that I could have hit at that lunch table. I wanted to interview you on the spot, you know, because I was hearing all the stuff and I just wasn't expecting it. And just the fact that they were so pushy about trying to get you into the military, there were the recruiters showed up to your house three different times, actually got your mom to try to convince you. Um, I mean, I wonder like had, would it, if you hadn't signed up, if they would have just used you anyway, um, you know, who knows what that would have looked like. I don't know, but I do know that my mom was very secretive about a lot of things, including the fact that she was also psychic. Um, and I didn't find that out until I was like 15 or 16 years old. We had, we lived in a house that was very haunted in Springfield and there kinds of and scary things happen. And she never said anything about seeing that stuff. She would listen to me, but that was it. And then when we moved to Kansas City, we're sitting at the dinner table one night. And I said, I said, do you remember those faces in the walls? Did you, you know, I said, I remember seeing those faces. I wish other people had seen them. And she says, Oh yeah, I saw them. I said, what? She goes, yeah, I saw them too. But I just didn't want you to be scared. I didn't want to validate what you were seeing to make you think about it and worry you. So I'm like, okay, she was psychic. She absolutely was. And then she would exhibit that, but she wouldn't talk about it. She wouldn't say the word I'm psychic. You know, she would just say, Oh, I just know this. You know, I know this is going to happen or whatever. So obviously I think I got some, you know, DNA from both sides of the family. I'm having these abilities and then a boost from Thor. But that boost didn't come until 1986 from Thor. So, you know, I already had certain abilities. She was always very secretive, though. She could easily have been in the FBI at the same time, saying she's going to work attention envelope, having me come down two or three times a year to have lunch with her there, but she's not really working there. She's at the other place. I don't know. Right. It's just weird. Yeah. Yeah, definitely, you know, there's no coincidence that, you know, it all runs in the family. And I don't think it's any coincidence that a valiant Thor, you know, started assisting you. If you're involved in any sort of program like that and you have abilities, you're catching the attention of, you know, a number of ETS, probably, and other military groups. So it doesn't surprise me that, you know, they had their eye on you and decided to, you know, help you along your way. So along the way. Well, yeah, except that for positive for good. Yeah. And, you know, I, I have memories of being trained and being able to find people and find missing people and find hostages, even, but also to harm people. And I don't want to do that. I don't care what the consequences are. I don't want to do that. I am here for a positive mission and to help raise consciousness of the planet. And that's the path that I decided to take. And I think that's why Thor stepped in and decided to help me with that and encourage me. And then now I help him. So, I mean, that's my job now is doing whatever I can to help raise consciousness of the planet. Yeah. And that's beautiful. It's beautiful that you are able to make that conscious decision because, you know, it's just like any ability, like it's all up to the practitioner, right? It can be used for good or bad. And that's where black magic comes from. Like it's really just all how you utilize that tool and that ability. So I really appreciate the fact that you're, you know, you've decided to help us all with this amazing gift and you're doing the right thing. And, you know, congratulations on the UNX network that I know, you know, Thor inspired you to create. So just keep up the good work. Well, I will as long as I'm here on the planet. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Margie. And thanks for, again, for, you know, sharing this story bravely for the first time publicly. We really appreciate that. And can you once again, please let our audience know how they can find you and where they can follow you? Well, my website is probably the easiest. Margie K dot com, M-A-R-G-I-E-K-A-Y dot com. And my podcast is on the UNX network at UNX Network dot com. And, you know, I also publish books. So I'm looking for people looking for authors on paranormal, metaphysical and consciousness subjects. That's what we focus on. And it's called UNX Media Publishing. That's great. And all the links will be below, as always. But thank you again for joining us. And thank you all for being here. We love you all. And until next time, have a great evening. Good night. Thank you. Yo, what's up, everyone? How are you guys doing today? You guys feeling those vibes? You know, did they subject it out? So May 13th to 16th, Grafton, Illinois is Rebels of Disclosure Conference. Yeah, I'm pumped. It's going to be my first time in the States, first time going to a conference, first time seeing any of these speakers live. And the first time I'm going to get to meet hundreds of people that I've been chatting with and interacting with on Facebook and Instagram. And I'm so pumped. I did just check they have the website up and running. It's looking really fresh. And as all the information on tickets, nail plans, the schedule, when the speakers are going to be speaking, information on all the speakers, frequently asked questions and where you can camp or your lodgings for the weekend as well, information on where the event's going to be at. And it looks dope. I do believe that this is going to be the best year yet. I may be biased because I'm going this here, but that's from a vitamin. But yet, if you haven't checked out the website, go check it out. It's looking really good. I'm super excited, man. I've been following Tyler and Aaron for a long time. I really love their podcast, know the people they bring on and the lineup this year looks so safe. So, and if you're going, I'm super excited to meet you. I can give you a big hug, a big star seed squeeze, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyway, you guys, I hope you guys have an amazing day today, sending you guys lots of love and man, I can't wait for this conference. Big ups, Aaron and Tyler. And yeah, guys, have a great day. Peace. [MUSIC]