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EP 241 - James Bartley: Black Helicopters & UFOs - Muting of Consciousness - Blue Beam Technology

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James Bartley is the host for The Cosmic Switchboard Show. James has
investigated Alien Abductions, Military Abductions, Alien Technology Back-
Engineering, Secret Space Programs, Ancient Mysteries and “Surface Level
Conspiracy Fact” for over thirty years.
James has had his own personal ET and Cryptid Encounters. He is a former
member of the Military Intelligence Community and is an Independent
Historian specializing in Military History, Intelligence/Counterintelligence and
Special Operations.
James has lectured in many places including Philadelphia Pennsylvania,
Memphis Tennessee, Las Vegas Nevada, San Diego California, Roswell New
Mexico, and the legendary “UFO Friendship Campouts” at the Lil A’Le Inn in
Rachel Nevada, adjacent to the infamous “Area 51/Groom Lake Complex” in
Central Nevada. James spoke at The Repcon near Manchester England which
was the first ever conference dedicated to Reptilian Research and most
recently at The Paradigm Shift Summit in Surfers Paradise Australia.
Website:
https://www.thecosmicswitchboard.com/
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/JamesBartley

Duration:
1h 16m
Broadcast on:
04 Aug 2024
Audio Format:
mp3
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Take advantage of that and if you can't make it for the entire time, day passes will be available on April 1st and we'd love to see you guys out there, we're really looking forward to it and if you're looking for a roommate, there are people on the Telegram chat who are looking for roommates right now, so the Telegram chat is available on the website JourneyToTruthCon.com and you might be able to find someone there to room with since the on-site lodging is sold out. Both out wasting any more time, tonight we're joined once again by James Bartley, we had him on about a year ago, we talked about reptilians among us, we really got deep into that subject and it was great, it was one of my favorite episodes, James, I don't know if you can call him an expert on reptilians but it was definitely awesome, so we're going to get into some more of that today. Welcome back to the show James. Thank you Tyler and Aaron, I'm glad to be here. I'm glad to have you back, so I've been checking out some of your interviews on your website, the Cosmic Switchboard, you're doing some incredible work, you're getting into some really deep stuff, I love it, I love the direction you're going with it, I mean there's so much happening right now, there's no shortage of things to talk about, you just did an episode with Eve Lorgen where you guys talked about multi-dimensional portals and these black helicopters and I'd like to kind of get into the black helicopter subject a little more before we jump into something else and I was wondering if you could chime in on that and what you think these are because obviously most of the time they can be a military black helicopter but sometimes they can mimic or mask themselves as a UFO or a UFO mask as a helicopter I should say. Yeah, so that's a great question Tyler. Black helicopters and mysterious helicopters have been an integral part of the UFO lore since the beginning of well both the the modern UFO age and the modern helicopter age. I've seen black helicopters up close and I believe the ones that I saw were highly advanced, they're not on the order of battle of these mainstream army helicopter or air force helicopter units these are off the shelf, black ops, highly advanced craft and on one occasion it's a long story but I wound up standing directly beneath one of these and if I had a broom or a rake I could have reached up and touched the underside of this thing. It was very narrow, it was a night time and I did not feel any downdraft from the presumed heloprops, one would assume if you were standing beneath a helicopter you could feel the air coming down from the turning of the blades but that wasn't the case. I didn't hear any sound other than a slight whirring sound and what was interesting was standing directly beneath it. I could only infer that there was the helicopter the matter part of the helicopter directly above me because there were two faint points of light on either side of it and so I just I discern that okay that must be the body of the craft and if anyone had stood next to a like cobra helicopter gunship either if they spent time in the military or they went to an air show they can see for themselves how narrow these cobras are well this craft, this presumed helicopter seem to be even narrower than that and I stood directly beneath this thing and then it moved off down the street and I foolishly chased after it and on another occasion I'd gone to the field of my fifth grade elementary school in San Jose, California. I was visiting from San Diego, I'd come up to San Jose for the weekend and I just fall in an intuitive yearning if you will and I stroll down to this elementary school hoping I could see something it was nighttime and I saw four or five large triangular craft these were I would consider to be man-made made by the deep black aerospace corporations or elements thereof there's this notion that if a craft is triangular of necessity it must be man-made that's a fallacy the triangle shape like the disc shape is a universal arrow form there are many civilizations besides our own that create triangular shaped craft and I've seen man-made triangular shaped craft rather small in scale and larger and these were larger I would say 90 feet from corner to corner and had a red light beneath the center of the craft on the underside and on each corner there were lights now some of them did not have lighted corners some only had one or two lighted corners it almost gave them when the corner lights were not turned on these would be white lights when the corner lights were not turned on it almost gave it a stealthy aspect because you wouldn't notice it the only reason I noticed them was I've heard this this buzzing electrostatic sound which caused me to look up oh there's one of those large triangular craft point of relevance is as I'm standing in that field I see one of these black helicopters buzzing around right beneath beneath these triangular craft it was making a it was making a buzzing sound it was different I would say from the helicopter I just described a moment ago and what was interesting was as this flew around this schoolyard it occasionally admitted what I can only describe as a lighted rectangular window trailing behind it I don't know what that was it was a doorway it was some kind of energy field I don't know but all I know is as this thing is moving along it somehow created this rectangular white what seemed to be a doorway behind it for lack of a better term it was like a door light laying on its side but it was illuminated it was trailing this this helicopter and it wasn't an object it wasn't being towed it was just like a light that manifested momentarily and then it turned itself off and then I decided when I saw the the helicopter well chances are they know I'm down there besides the crews on borders trying it in craft I decided to be the ace to retreat across this footbridge went to a street and started running back to my parents house and just to the left I saw very interesting if anyone else has seen any of these things I saw what I can only describe as a as a large flame anyone takes a big lighter and they light it and you see what the flame looks like we'll scale that up to about 15 feet okay high and it was hovering just above the houses to my left so there was all kinds of activity going on that night but the subject is the black helos some of the black helos like I mentioned are lack of a better term terrestrial and there have been mysterious helicopters black helicopter sightings that are integral to the whole UFO lore many of us that have had ET UFO my lab experiences have seen helicopter black helicopters but there's also the mysterious types of helicopters which may not be terrestrial and origin in fact it's quite likely that some of these helicopters that have been observed especially when they're doing unusual things are actually alien craft for lack of a better term disguised as as a helicopter right and Evie Lorgen was discussing this on the podcast that she was on my show with she talked about how her colleague had observed a portal open up in the sky and a helicopter come out of it and that is to me is a classic example of how these crafts can morph themselves assume a guise that if someone a casual observer happened to look up they would just think helicopter they wouldn't think that it's anything other than a normal helicopter now I've had Jeff Brady on the show recently he's a great guest and he's got his own podcast in other news radio and he has photo documented and videotape many UFOs which assume the guises of mundane terrestrial objects such as clusters of balloons other things planes a hidden aspect of the chemtrail phenomena is the fact that some of these planes that are emitting the plumes are not really planes they've been seeing the shape shift in mid-flight they've been seeing the shift into a disc or some other shape so there's a lot more going on and you go back to the Vietnam War along the DMZ the 17th parallel the Demilitarized Zone separated north and south Vietnam a lot of the military units the Marines and the Army that were along the DMZ kept reporting these mysterious helicopters that didn't belong to the American military it was presumed perhaps they were north Vietnamese NBA or perhaps even Chinese but these helicopters would just buzz around for a long period of time no one seemed to be able to shoot them down no one seemed to know where they really came from it was just a guess that that they were north Vietnamese and origin it's quite possible that those presumed helicopters were actually these craft in disguise that I'm talking about because the north Vietnamese as far as I know and as far as people knew at the time they didn't have fleets of helicopters like the Americans did and also when you look at the the cattle mutilation syndrome and this is going back decades now when it looks at the work of Lindemone Howe and others unusual animal deaths and also my colleague Nish who I was recently on a podcast with her she talked about a strange die off of elk in her part of the western northwestern US I want to get into that yeah point being is that cattle mutilations strange and usual animal deaths are sometimes accompanied by not only UFO sightings but black helicopter sightings they seem to be at the very least cognizant and aware of the UFO alien interest activity directed towards the cattle towards the cows they seem to be in the in the local area prior to during and after some of these cattle mutilation events likewise as far as the abduction syndrome alien abduction syndrome is concerned where people are being abducted by aliens once again these black helicopters seem to be around so to answer your question there's a mix there's definitely black ops helicopters and I'm not just talking about the night stalkers that work with Delta Force and that I'm talking about very very deep black military aerospace helicopter units some of these helicopters are quite advanced like I just described at the outset and I do believe a significant percentage of these black helicopter related to this phenomena are really alien craft in in disguise if you will right so a few things there's a few things I want to get into for one the elk so if you watched David Pilai this missing 401 the UFO connection there's they made the elk connection as well where a lot of these people were going missing where there was high elk activity in the area and the one guy who was even taken and brought back said that when he was on the craft he was on the craft with some elk that they had taken as well so they definitely have an interest and by the way I think that's a fantastic documentary if you guys haven't seen it have you seen that documentary no I have not but but I will thank you and I'm really grateful for David Pilai this to be doing this it's it's it's time is you know come for this kind of information people like you and I we've been talking about this kind of thing for a long time the disappearance is related to non-human life forms but getting back to the elk the reason it came up was in in Nish's neck of the woods she's in the Pacific Northwest there were somehow they determined there were 24 elk involved right I don't know if they went around counting the legs and the heads and the body parts or what and then they they ascribed the demise of these 24 elk due to a train running over them which is highly unlikely okay now we've been having all these training derailments and what have you in the recent past but the notion that 24 again they're really into numerology t equals 4 equals 6 etc etc the notion that 24 elk would just be standing on a railroad track and just waiting to get right over I find that highly unlikely there were according to Nish UFO reports in the immediate area before this die off and the eyewitnesses described the aftermath of the the animal deaths they said it was utter carnage all the blood and gore and dismemberment of all these elk made some people physically sick that had seen it so to me it doesn't sound so much like they were run over by a train it sounds to me like perhaps it was due to some alien UFO interference we know that when UFOs like hover over or go near a cow pasture for example the cows tend to cluster up and congregate I guess safety and numbers kind of thing right my guess is something along those lines happened they all like elk clustered amongst each other and then the ETs of whoever zapped them and created all this carnage for whatever reason now I hadn't heard what you described to me a moment ago about how the the eyewitness had been taken on board and they'd seen elk I hadn't heard that story I've heard stories of people being taken on board and seen cattle but it doesn't surprise me that they would go after elk elk are big beautiful creatures they've gone after dogs they've gone after goats they've gone after cattle so it wouldn't surprise when they go after elk but the point of relevance is a whole bunch of these elk somehow they determined there were 24 of them were were just wiped out in a very brutal fashion dismembered but up right so going back to the overlay like the holographic overlay I guess you could say that would make a helicopter or a UFO appear as a helicopter this is possibly the same type of technology that the reptilians would use to disguise themselves among us and what's interesting right now is like the entire world illusion that we're living in right now is fading and then and they're not even hiding like you would think they would be trying to hide but they're not it's like they don't even care that we know their agenda that we know that they're there they know you know most of people most people are just going to laugh it off like oh yeah it's not you know not real whatever but I would assume and this is just speculation that it's a similar technology that the reptilians are using that the craft would use to mask themselves as something else hey there it is Ryan Seacrest with you do you want to make this summer unforgettable join me at Chumba Casino it's the summer's hottest online destination they are rolling out the red carpet with an amazing welcome offer just for you so don't wait dive in now and play hundreds of social casino games for free your chance to redeem real prizes is just a spin away care to join me sponsored by Chumba Casino no purchase necessary vgw group voidware prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply save on a Riley break parts cleaner get two cans of the Riley break parts cleaner for just eight dollars valid in store only at O'Reilly auto parts well there seems to be a relationship the the reptilians in particular while some of the reptilian groups are quite technologically advanced now there is some debate amongst researchers alien abduction researchers as to how the reptilians go about assuming a human guise some people describe it to some kind of holographic device of projection I'm of the camp that believes that they just have the means to alter not only their their visual image but also literally change their their physical exterior because people have described women were having intercourse with an individual who began to shape shift and the woman the woman could feel like the big bumps in the back of the individual scaly skin the whole bit so to me that's not a hologram to me that's something physical in our in our dimension so at least some of these reptilians have the means to shift back and forth and there are probably certain means by which the reptilians use to maintain their human form and maybe as time goes on as the fundamental consequences are changing they're having more difficulty holding their human shape at least some of them right and I mean that would that would be a number a whole cocktail of things I'm sure that keep them keep that illusion going frequencies blood you know from even I forgot what else I was going to say but it's a number of things I don't think it's any just there's not there's a number of components that may I say great to maintain the illusion I have a question really quick so why do you think they would they would disguise the craft as a helicopter or plane rather than just cloaking outright rather than just becoming invisible why do you think they would do that I'm not sure as far as the motivations are concerned because that's a very good point with the advent of infrared night vision equipment people are seeing all kinds of crap that night fly around which are not visible in the visible spectrum so it begs the question then why do they have to go to this extent where they have to conceal something in in plain view disguise its appearance I don't know to pursue some kind of agenda those of us that have had these experiences over time some of us were dogged by helicopters I mean I had people stay with me in San Diego and they would remark to me just how often they would hear helicopters in our neighborhood flying around sometimes hovering right over the roof one time I was on the phone with Eve Lorgan the night before she was gonna fly out of an airport in Orange County to go to Memphis, Tennessee and then I was gonna fly out of Lindbergh field in San Diego to go to the same conference right and as we're talking both of us experienced helicopters right over our houses so I'm on the phone you can hear a helicopter right over I could hear a helicopter right over my roof Evie at her end has got a helicopter right over her roof and we're talking about you know all the different things we're going to be discussing at the conference coming up that we're going to fly out towards so either that was deep black military just mucking with us or it was something else it was like ET's or something mucking with this point meeting is that I think that the helicopter has kind of attained this subconscious status so those of us in this field even at a surface military level you know we think back to the Vietnam War very much about helicopter war there's there's a militant aspect to helicopters there's an intrusive aspect there's this surveillance monitoring aspect we were familiar with police helicopters what have you so almost you know mine too the feeling is they assume the guise of helicopters a because there are very common mundane terrestrial craft secondly there's kind of an ominous nature to them like there unless you're you're on like some kind of tourist helicopter flying over Waikiki or something right you know to people like us it takes on helicopters take on ominous connotation it's it's like a psychological thing yes psychological yeah in short I should have said that it's psychological warfare essentially right and you know it's interesting the next webinar we're getting ready to do for our patreon is a voice of god mind control and one of the common themes with the voice of god technology is the black helicopters and then even in some of the little illustrations it shows a helicopter parked outside someone's house using that technology you know it goes right through the walls of the house and they aren't just putting a voice in people's heads they can give them a false dream a false ET experience whatever the case may be absolutely so they're they're using that manner too and and this is they also hide under the guise of like a communications van or something like that which I believe I've actually been a victim of it one one point I'm walking through a park I'd noticed this van would like move every time I was going around this trail this van would be in the parking like a different parking lot I saw four different parking lots while I was going around and I happened to break out with this really bad rash these hives um that day while I was just in the middle of that walk and I didn't even put two and two together till months later but I'm like I wonder if they were for some reason targeting me um but that's one way they do it but I definitely know the black helicopters show up and you know along with this voice are used along with the voice of god technology and then yes absolutely there's no doubt in my mind that some of these helicopters were directly involved in the targeted individual syndrome in the manipulation harassment abduction of of my labs and other project people absolutely and some of these are loaded down with like as you said high-tech gear I I've spoken to people and I've heard accounts of like sometimes these mysterious blacks of urban and crown vix would show up at a UFO site tinted windows even the middle of the night but you know when the windows are rolled down some people would look onto the dashboard and it's not a dashboard it's like a control panel right so and people have been taken abducted and pulled inside some of those vans you can describe and they describe to me that the the interior of the vans would be just aligned with you know high-tech equipment so I mean they come loaded for bear whether it's an aerial craft like a helicopter or it's a van or or a crown bit right I want to shift gears just a little bit I heard you I forget what interview I was listening to of yours you guys were talking about universities and college professors being used in tangent with the agencies FBI CIA to recruit students and I just I it's fascinating to me you know I think there's a reptilian consciousness working through some of these professors and I would just like to get your talk from that oh yeah yeah it's a well-established means of recruitment you go back to World War II British intelligence and in American intelligence they routinely hired professors in the various fields of study and these professors worked in the intelligence field whether it was for code breaking or whether it was for running double agents whatever the case may be and then they would tap i.e. recruit people from within the universities the British tended to look for people of a certain breeding that a whole bloodline they were stocklessly paying so they would look for likely recruits from certain families certain bloodlines certain wealth backgrounds if you will and then they would ask them depending on their aptitude and the proficiency the things they were good at and then they would put them in the intelligence community to fight against the Germans at times or whoever and after World War II that process continued it never stopped so these universities especially the poison ivy league ones in America but also Stanford and other ones oh UCLA and the UC system in particular we're recruiting grounds for people because these universities many of them were funded with defense contracts a lot of them were involved in behavioral studies research I think of Dr. Lowe as a jolan west in UCLA right and he was intimately involved with my controlling patty hers all these different people jolan west kept showing up as like a court appointed i'm not laughing because it's funny i'm just laughing ridiculous a court appointed expert witness you know to study the psychology of these my control people many of whom he himself my control so this nexus between the universities the talent spotters amongst the professors and the college staff looking for likely recruits and what they've done over time if you remember that guy who allegedly shot up the virginia tech university uh true i think he was a south korean national originally that was a classic example of a guy whose family was by south korean standards well off had connections with south korean intelligence that were brought to america and true eventually enrolled in that school he was probably plugged into some kind of my control project and then either he was the real shooter or one of the shooters or the patty for wiping out allegedly all these students in virginia tech right and then of course they find all these videos and all these manifestos the guy is apparently written right but point being is that that's a classic example of a guy who came from a foreign family south korean it was tapped identified by intelligence even before they left korea brought over to the us and the guy which plugged into this this my control program so they cast a wide net of these these universities and these talent spotters and now if you look at the communist model how they do it at the cost communist luciferian model you look at the kambridge spies for example classic example where the the four predecessors of the kgb and then the g r you also the soviet military intelligence they knew that these sons of these established aristocratic families going to be tapped and within the way of their system works are eventually going to get into the good colleges the good preparatory schools first good colleges and then they wind up in the foreign office they wind up in mi six and center etc so what the soviet said was you know why don't we recruit them while they're still in college so when they get out of college they work for us right right i definitely know like the whole infrastructure is set up and the steer people into these programs and the recruitment uh the whole recruitment process but the whole point being is that the reptilian consciousness is working through these people these entities are working through them and then that's the real issue we have here even among people within like quote quote truth or community and influencers i think they're being affected by the same type of thing nowadays well yes the what they used to refer to as the spirit of accusation right these people that were under some kind of demonic malign influence and they're they're accusing everybody of everything you know what i'm gonna put these big red scarlet letters on people and then you know hang them out to dry right well we see that all the time in our field these accusations of this person or that person's controlled opposition it wouldn't surprise me if the term controlled opposition just like the term conspiracy theory was created by someone within the intelligence community because it's it's such a like far-reaching slur it could apply to anyone or anything so if someone disagrees with you or doesn't necessarily believe what you believe oh they're controlled opposition or if someone becomes successful or they have a large following or they they sell like uh nutrient supplements on their website oh they're in it for the money controlled opposition right so we get a lot of that and what it does is it plays on whatever unresolved traumatic issues that they've got whatever kind of malign energy quite frankly influences working through them this whole controlled opposition thing takes on a life of its own i could play the same game oh you don't know that reptilian's control planet earth you're controlled opposition i could play the same exact game but that would be silly on my part right because only so many people at this point are aware of that level of deception and control so what we're seeing once again and we see this play out in many different ways they always strive to achieve an emotional reaction within people let me give you an example there's a difference between let's say a virus or a pathogen or something okay in our in our hypothetical example let's say that it has never been isolated from a living patient a living person supposedly afflicted with whatever the pathogen is okay that's point one point two is let's say that there's evidence like dr. david martin has proven to my satisfaction that you know patents had been you know taken out for the alleged cure for these pathogens right and let's say that he's satisfied along with others that this pathogen that we're all supposed to be scared of is nothing more than a computer generated gene sequence okay that is not the same as saying that pathogens don't exist okay those are two different things at work that people conflate them for the point now where if someone says oh you know i've got this bug xyz oh well you don't really have a bug you're promoting these falsehoods these bugs don't exist these bugs are just a computer generated gene sequence right so so what they do is they can't see the forest for the trees these pathogens do exist people really do get sick from being around sick people asymptomatic people something is really going around but the divisions and artificial fractures have been set up to the point where even if like a truthera says well you know i went traveling the other day and you know i flew in a plane and i came back and i really said there's these people that are saying oh no you're not really sick there's nothing really going around right which is nonsense there's things that are going around all over the place pathogens do exist but see what they do they they can't separate what the research of what some people have done with what's actually going around in the real world you see so i mean that's probably as clear as mud that example that i gave you but that's just an example in the recent past of how these fault lines these artificial fault lines have been created and we see this with the flat earth we see this with nuclear weapons don't exist nuclear weapons are oaks i think what's happened uh fellows is that so many of these people in the so-called truth community i'm not talking about the ones that are outright deceivers outright deception artists i'm talking about ones that just they don't have an intuitive background anymore they don't have the ability to suss out bogus from real information they have to keep searching and listening to countless podcasts and watching countless interviews to try to make their minds up about something they've lost the ability or they never had the ability to intuitively suss out whether something is bogus or not and that's the problem so when people say that this is a hoax and that is a buzzword and a trigger word if there ever was one this is a hoax this is saia that's controlled opposition for people that have already at a very deep level been personally hurt either by those that they trusted and loved or and/or hurt by the institutions that have been created that ostensibly are here for our benefit or to help us when people have been hurt and backstab to that extent when they hear trims like hoax saia distraction uh i mean there was a guy on i didn't even watch the video but the thumbnail said uh it is ryan c cress 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also you know like for example when when the whole pizza gate thing erupted oh pizza gate is a distraction how is it a distraction hillary clinton is directly involved how is that a distraction exposing truth is never a distraction it's exactly that that's what's going on i don't even know if i answered your question doesn't matter i love i love it keep going yeah but but the point being is that and now what we've seen and i'm glad actually we went in this direction uh is you and i and error know that aliens are real ufos are real you did the the ufos for dummies thing which is great i'm really glad you guys did that thank you what they've done now because you see it's ironic but a lot of these people that are chanting bleeding in sheet fashion blue bean blue bean this is all just a distraction you know this let's say alien invasion what's happened is and it's ironic okay see they the ones who bleed blue bean all the time and don't believe in aliens they get this they trusted the science room all those years that there's science professors in high school and in college and the tv people were telling them that aliens don't exist this is between star systems are too vast impossible to get here a total misapplication and misunderstanding of ocams razor ocams razor actually goes the other direction if all these crafting beings are being reported by countless people down to the ages the simplest explanation is these beings from other worlds figure out a way to get here okay right they've gotten here they've established bases and they've been here all along that's ocams razor in a nutshell but but they but their argument is based on the religion of scientism well science essentially the same science tells us they can't get here you know because of technology doesn't exist well it doesn't exist here that we're aware of but it does exist here in the deep black era space corporations in a deep black military exactly being is that they followed the science not only that but they allowed themselves to be unwitting dupes because with denial comes ridicule that was a two and also outright harassment assassination depending on you know the case but denial and debunking from eight academics again that concept of academics professors scientists who were actively debunking UFOs for so long on the one hand but also the ridicule factor yeah when someone sticks their head up above we've seen this play out in very different the number of fields whether it's you know um health medicine or whatever the case may be or 9/11 there's always going to be these these people pop up say that's a crazy conspiracy theory from a crazy conspiracy theorist well that didn't go enough decades with UFO witnesses and AT witnesses the ridicule factor so these blue beamers as i call them not only did they follow the science and had to follow following the science work the last few years not only did they follow the science and say well with a complete a priori misunderstanding of the whole UFO alien syndrome and believe okay face value what the academic said but they went along with the ridicule factor so they became unwitting assets to this wicked evil depopulating control system essentially a non-human control system that's the irony at work here so all these truth was out there screaming blue beam is a distraction they followed the science they'll never admit it but they followed the bogus science and also you look at the the people who don't consider themselves truthers wouldn't be considered truthers by us they were just your average everyday skeptic they're in a quandary now but because they believe the official stories of 9/11 of JFK of the last few years right and then something that they've been told to not believe and not only not believe but to ridicule anyone who does believe in i.e. aliens and UFOs now they're being told oh it's a it's an existential threat these balloons are not you know a reminder to Steve Martin and the jerk movie the cans the cans you know the balloons the balloons yeah so so we have that going on is it a distraction yes it's a distraction okay but there's a whole backstory which i'm glad you guys that are bringing out uh like there's a book that's just come out called non-human by Gary Azeltyne i've had him on my show uh it'll be coming out pretty soon but he has written up till this point the definitive book about Reynolds and Forrest's RAF Bent waters at Woodbridge and that was the case when there was actually a landed UFO craft aliens got out of it military people were there it was filmed with the state of the art movie cameras at the time this is December 1980 bulky kind of camera a gear to be sure compared to what we have now but it was filmed and documented the whole thing there were dozens and dozens of witnesses finally that's starting to come out but they want to keep the attention riveted on so-called tiktoks on balloons you see what i mean so it's the real nitty gritty the real cases that you can really sink you deep into that lets us know that there is a non-human force here influencing malignly indeed the human race that gets left by the wayside instead we have blue beam we have balloons we have jet shooting down balloons i mean it's reached the point of absurdity really so a few things it has uh so it is a distraction on one on one level because we had all the train derailments environmental health crisis happening and all the news we report on is these craft in the sky that were being shot down and then feeding us that narrative so in that regard yeah but i do understand and agree with where you're coming from also the venelson forest incident i know uh karaoke acidy talked about she had interviewed some of those whistle blowers um or witnesses i should say not whistle blowers and she's noticing a phenomenon now some of the witnesses are suddenly changing their story or not wanting to comment on it anymore and it's really interesting that her either they're being threatened or just something is going on wire or mind-controlled wire these people suddenly changing their story um it's just another interesting it is and there are some people who they they never change your tune larry warren and uh and now retired uh staff sergeant adrien bestenza bestenza essentially confirmed larry warren's story without saying so he confirmed in so many ways that and this was in a interview of the three-way phone conversation between linda mone how larry warren adrien bestenza where bestenza basically agreed that he had seen the same thing larry had seen without saying what he'd seen that that makes sense right yeah i saw the same thing and basically uh adrien bestenza said that larry was several feet in front of him closer to the craft closer to the beans and so when adrien bestenza says i saw the same thing larry did right well he's basically confirming that right what larry saw was aliens and he saw the same thing and another thing also as far as all the tiktok videos and all the pilot reports if you remember the national uh press club conference in washington dc i think steven grier put it together three thousand one yeah exactly alone as far as i know alone amongst all the other witnesses there were supposed to be another witness there a good friend of mine i know for many years i know a story inside out guy kirkwood in 1954 he was part of a four plane detachment specially trained to fly back and forth between i think it was salt lake city airport and correct and i may be wrong about this but larry air force base in in colorado but i could be wrong about the latter anyway they were tasked with flying back and forth hoping to get an intercept of ufo's and and get the intercept on gun camera footage right which they did on a few occasions well he was slated he was asked by steven grier to show up at the uh at the conference in washing dc the day before he was gonna fly out he gets a mysterious phone call and he's told if you show up to that conference in dc we're gonna burn your house down okay he lived in east county san diego in elkahone at the time i lived in clermont uh you know another suburb in san diego so the point of relevance and the significance of that is he would have been telling the audience and reporters however few showed up at the time that back in 1954 they already had gun camera footage especially trained mission to photo intercept uh to intercept and photo document the intercept of ufo's they were it was a pacific asking that this unit was trained to do okay so that preceded by 70 years there about all this infrared footage all this videotape from the uh the navy pilots etc etc so hindsight is 2020 but it doesn't now when i think about it it makes sense that he would get the threats compared to everyone else because they didn't want this notion getting out of course uh military pilots would be the first in the disclosure uh process to be the ones the the point people if you will for getting disclosure out but they didn't want that disclosure to come from a pilot back in 1954 okay so many people would too many people would believe it because it's coming from a military military pilots and military sources and we're pretty exactly and we're programmed to think that these military pilots are the most credible or any of the pilot in general um so that you have credibility there um you know what it destroyed their agendas of what you know they didn't want anyone taking any of this seriously or thinking it's real at that point right so also by keeping it at the tiktok level and even that tiktok video it's completely taken out of context because in the old days we used to call them cigar shaped craft barrel shaped cylindrical shape now because i guess the recommend is common these days it's a tiktok right but at the outset of that video which they don't talk about is these so-called tiktoks were hovering just above the wave tops and beneath just beneath the waves was what seemed to be a large submerged craft okay so what we used to call in the old days a mothercraft it was very common in the old days 40s 50s and 60s to see a number of dish shaped crafts come in and out of the cigar shaped craft okay so what we have here at the outset of that video which they never talked about is there is a submerged seemingly large cylindrical type object and just above it were these tiktoks so they don't talk about that aspect of it right and what i've heard people say is oh these are drones that that's just the most ridiculous thing they're going to spend all this time and effort to give these fantastic capabilities to drones where the radar operators said they were disappeared at one place and then wind up 20 miles away instantaneously you're gonna put that kind of technology into a drone right right it's on the face of it it's absurd right you just reminded me of something i wanted to mention earlier you brought a blue beam which i do think the blue beam holographic technology does exist oh yeah absolutely does you know the way you were talking before you were acting like you know it was insane that that's the case but i do think it's possible that some of the craft that they want us to see could be their blue beam or holographic technology just so they can give us that narrative you know it's something that we have to at least consider and i agree with you i agree that's not all one thing right you know my point just to interject and i would like to hear your thoughts and continue but it's like we live in a reptilian sphere of influence so for people to say that it's all aliens are all fake that's like putting the cart before the horse because these rectilines and other beings have controlled this planet for so long right so so anyway please continue no no so you're right yeah this i see what your argument is that the people who are saying it's blue beam are trying to also say that aliens don't exist right but something you brought up in one of your previous interviews was the muting of consciousness and i'd like you to go into that a little further and explain to our audience what you mean by that when you say they're trying to mute our consciousness well in the old days a well-rounded holistic type person and in the old days science and mysticism were two sides of the same coin cut from the same cloth there was an understanding and also back then a lot of people understood the nature of ether physics this is before Einstein before general relativity before special relativity this notion of they keep trying to come up with names of it right you know the the theory of everything but generally people back in a day and you didn't have to be a shaman or a medicine person the medicine man medicine woman to know this right that everything was connected that we are a microcosm of a larger macrocosmic multiverse essentially right all that stuff was taken for granted now what's happened is we've gone from that understanding that sensibility to uh you know pushing Gardasil vaccines on young boys even though young boys don't have cervixes right so the people pushing that it's like they flunked basic anatomy but because of the muting of consciousness the shame-based trauma background so many of us have where we can't find a voice to speak up and say uh that's nonsense boys don't have cervixes okay this followed a leader shame-based people pleasing mentality and you look at the we talked again earlier we talked about the malign influence of the schools of the universities what have you if you look what they've done just fragmenting the consciousness fragmenting the logical thinking part of the brain and replacing it with this all this emotional they do is they have all these commas all these parentheses and they they over complicate things that's an example of of fragmenting and muting consciousness and if you look at how the media is presented and how entertainment is presented everything is in these sound bites nothing is presented in full form we're in the old days and i'm old enough where you know i did research pre-internet i mean and i still do you have to get that get your nose into the books get back into the archival research to form a background understanding of all this but if the very nature of the school system has been subverted into not only indoctrination but also to engender this highly emotional reaction out of out of the students who will eventually if they survive this whole process become adults and everything has an emotional component so thinking logical reasoning common sense is left by the wayside instead it's replaced by an emotional reaction now this is the end result of this process of muting consciousness whereas before like ancient man or ancient woman would look around and they would just recognize by sight all the different star constellations they didn't need a compass or a map to get around they can go on to high seas you know in a little boat and still get around right nowadays GPS phone navigation systems people are so reliant on the system that they will have a difficult time functioning when we have this expected breakdown of society and we've been seeing this with the trained or elements the destruction of the food distribution centers the threat of nuclear war etc etc and boy howdy if certain critical financial institutions go down i'm victoria cash and i want to invite you to a place called lucky land where you can play over a hundred social casino style games for free for your chance to redeem some serious prizes so what are you waiting for the best way to discover your luck is to spin so go to lucky land slots dot com that's lucky land slots dot com and get lucky today at lucky land no purchase necessary vtw group boy prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply that are responsible for maintaining the EBT card system electronic benefit transfer food stamp cards if those institutions go down you're going to see mass writing on the streets and then forget about any kind of reason or common sense or you know higher logic then it's just going to be mass chaos and that's what they want you know you're in a luciferium satanically controlled world when confusion rage and unrequited rage in particular is the norm it is what passes for for research what passes for news reporting if you notice the news reporting is all very salt alinsky i just directed at certain people certain institutions certain ways of of thinking traditional ways of thinking marriage love family all that stuff is considered like extra misthought nowadays right so that's what i mean by muting of consciousness where we have been detached generally from that intuitive divine source connection where you can look at something and just intuitively know that it's not right but there's something wrong with it right instead what they've done is and this goes back to the supplanting of symbol language which speaks to us at a soul level with alphabet language because alphabet language is inherently a left-brained construct and if you are making the language and you create a whole bunch of taboos and a whole bunch of dogmas and you create indoctrination systems religions whatever the case may be think about the early ancient astronomer priest priesthoods right and you think of the latin mass where you would have these these Celtic people sitting there the mass would be in latin it's like what the hell's guy even saying that's what that's an extreme example what i'm talking about so the intuitive symbol language of speaks to us at a soul level has been replaced by an alphabet language which is inherently left-brained construct but rather than give us real information they give us dogmas taboos all this other stuff and so if you look at the people today there are people i know that are so commie infested and these are young people that just like that soviet defectors said decades ago that Yuri Besima but can't even remember his last name but he said something to the effect that once the moralization occurs it doesn't matter how much proof photographic evidence documentation you provide it will not matter anymore i would go further and say that no matter what proof you provide it will engender an emotional reaction out of these people and that's the whole idea right just one quick example it's how i got left Hillary Clinton said you can probably still see the video on youtube we the u.s. government get our marching orders from the council on foreign relations now what does that mean right what do you mean the u.s. government gets us marching orders from the council on foreign relations and then when you try to explain that to somebody who's been thus demoralized it's going to engender a negative reaction because they lack the the intellectual capacity and barbie brothel it went my mentor went further she said most people by that stage she told me this 20 30 years ago she said most people today simply don't have the neural capacity or the neural network to understand any of this this being this whole manipulation and another quote allen green span said on tv he said we're not the federal reserve is not part of the u.s. government we don't we don't get instructions from the u.s. government what does that mean if you try to explain that to somebody who's been excreted from this indoctrination system are you going to get as a negative emotional reaction because they literally don't have the the the neural pathway set up to understand any of this right well so you try to take the time and say explain that it's a private corporation that controls the you know the financial system of an entire world that just conflicts so much for their programming again you get an emotional reaction that's what i mean by the muting of consciousness and so when they mute consciousness on the one hand and then they keep us in this lower bandwidth of fear of trepidation and also you know vulgarity perversity all this other stuff that that is right for exploitation so i don't know if i answered your question but are you doing what you know when one talks about muting of consciousness that's what i think of and you know one last point about that is and you know god bless them i mean i i'm a humanitarian i you know i believe in divinity and i have hope for everyone but when you know when you get around normal people quote unquote that don't know what what we know and i don't say this in in the leadest sense but they just and i'm not one that dwells on negativity or fear or anything like that i just like to be aware of what's going on like like a like a real intel analyst and then when i get around these people that are completely oblivious to this or any of this you know my heart goes out to them i'm not i feel sorry for them that they've been the consciousness is muted to such an extent they're not even aware of the nature of the multiple threat environment they're in right a newborn fawn knows that it's in a dangerous environment a newborn chicken can tell by by the shadow reflected off the shadow blocking the sun if a hawk is flying overhead right and it has an instinctive recoil has an instinctive fear humans by and large have been detached from that internal guidance uh radar system and and that's one of the biggest problems so what's going to happen is going forward we're going to be hit with more and more disasters more and more catastrophes etc etc and these people will literally be like uh you know during the headlights and they're they're going to be the ones that demand all this austerity all all these strictures in order to save the planet etc etc yeah we have yeah you know they're also um attacking our attention span they want everybody um they don't want us to be able to sustain a thought long enough to even question these things um and that's why you have these 10 to 15 the one minute long videos past a minute people are like okay next you know tiktok instagram and all all of the social media platforms or adopting them now uh so that's another aspect of it it's instant gratification it's the dopamine here right right but there is an element to this that i would like to end on is that there is a large number of people waking up and seeing yes and doing something about this and i'd like to just uh in wrapping this up kind of focus on that like what people can do and the positive movement is simultaneously taking place well the direction that i'm coming from is the the fact that a planet earth is under a malign alien influence we are in a reptilian sphere of influence and it's playing itself out manifesting in so many ways the perversities and abominations that are being presented as the norm and if you disagree with that norm then you're an extremist right so people should take note of that and say okay where does this come from what's the origin of all this and take a note from what the ancients and the mystics from time immemorial have told us that there are these non-human beings uh that are pulling the strings and manipulating humanity for their ends if one looks at it from that standpoint then everything starts to make sense like what happened in east palestine ohio and that's an attack on the entire biosphere on the entire ecosystem everything down to the microbial level is being negatively impacted by that so you know to suggest that it's just power-med bankers that are behind this that's that's cladding the issue they're over-complicating things again ocams razor comes into play because clearly the force that's behind such things as fupi shima the the gulf platform horizon disaster east palestine ohio they want to destroy life as we know it so when we can unite as people as humans and say okay now we understand we're up against this non-human force they've been telling us this all along in their movies and networks and everything else then we can put aside our petty differences right and then we can say okay now we can start goal setting now we can start implementing the changes that we need to see in order to throw off this cosmic bachelor just throw off this yoke of non-human control i do believe that a certain segment of humanity will survive all of this i'm absolutely certain of that i'd like to see more people survive the more the merrier but if people keep fighting amongst themselves and seeing others the authority figures define others as their mortal enemies the pewton or trump or anyone else then they're gonna they're gonna miss the boat because this is non-human and origin if we band together and realize that we humans are up against the hostile alien force we can overcome this look there's nowhere else i'd rather be Aaron and Tyler this is where it's all going down if someone said to me okay you know at the outset of all this partly you have a choice you can you can sit this one out opt out and some higher dimensional plane and not have to worry about this or get into the slight this is where i we're also am i gonna be right right all right all right where it's all going down right so you know that's that's the attitude that i'd like to get across others but hey thank you guys for doing the work you're doing and also as far as uh one quick point of this is where i gotta go you talked about the voice to skull the helicopters involved in in the mind control i've got a i just interviewed a fantastic guest that was introduced to me by um jeff brady the four mentioned jeff brady david case uh he had invented a computer because he was an electron of genius basically he invented a computer that worked on photonic light principles he took it that a patent office within days he started getting blasted by tinnitus in the ears and it's loud switching in his head anyway long story short he created a sound frequency which negates that and i've he's been on jeff brady show in the recent past in other news radio you can find the interview and he's going to be coming out on my show pretty soon so that's a guide that i think would be great on your show because uh it's just one of those sleeping tigers that were woken up it's like you know they thought they can just remotely electronically harass him like anyone else no he turned around he he created a device that's helping countless other targeted individuals overcome this so the tide has turned fellas we're we're making significant strides yeah i definitely want to watch that interview and i'd love to know as much about that device as possible because i can add it to the webinar um it would be a great way to end the webinar to talk about you know a solution so thank you so much for joining us this was great um erin did you want to add anything before we wrap this up no just thank you so much um yeah just you're the wealth of information and you're doing amazing work so keep it up thank you erin thank you taylor right thank you so much uh guys go check out james is actually i'll let you to help people how to find you but cosmic switchboard is your website right yeah the cosmic switchboard.com you can find me on twitter under cosmic switch 29 and you can find me on facebook uh james bartley 148 so i guess there's 147 james bartley's before me so james bartley 148 on facebook all right perfect and we'll put your information in the description below guys come hang out with us and grafton and may if you can make it we'd love to see their tickets are still available at journey2truthcon.com thank you so much james for joining us until next time have a great evening good night thank you there was a cia director named william colby who in the 1980s said we'll know our disinformation campaigns are successful when everything the american people believe is fake when we realize how powerful we are when we set our intentions and we realize that we aren't just this we are just these multi-dimensional light beings and time is an illusion and you know it's everything's a perception then you can go forward and backwards and embody it and just pop out and go and do this work you can do amazing things when we set the right intentions to do it and i said this is this is us on this plane you know like that's what this is we're going to the moon and you say this thing is a lot older than you think it is we've been going to the moon a long time but i wrote on it i knew that we went to the moon and so i always knew there was a base on the moon from a young age and our dna is a complex recording system of the history of the entire universe the history you know of everything that not just this timeline that we know but multiple timelines of reality there are a total of nine different categories of planets in the universe we people on earth we are living on category one planet like elementary school students and the field and they're living on category nine planet like college professors so they have been really guiding us throughout history to help them let us know that this facility under the sandy mountain is considered an information station for interstellar travelers coming to the planet they tell us that their facility was retrofitted into the ancient tunnel system that already existed and as far as the bending of space time continuum i've had something like that happen and what seemed like about a five-minute encounter has been four and a half hours a missing time and i was completely conscious and what are you doing with a type three type four type five civilizations that can work with the different coexisting timelines all bets are off man you know every time we have Bigfoot activity out there we're having ETs and orbs and stuff like that and we have a lot of the stuff documented as a matter of fact i'm a member of three different teams and i work with people from all over the country out in the field and um we actually have documented a portal something that we consider to be a portal um opening and we sent two of our team members inside of it and really disappeared and then came back out i would suggest that we take it one step further and say humanity has never known who we are we've always been in the thought control matrix and one step further perhaps we could say that we're in a conscious consciously controlled state of hypnosis in other words are the thought control matrix creators constantly bombarding us with frequencies that keep us from being telepathic the keep us from remembering who we are the thought control matrix was set up and we have never known our potential our power our beauty our our incredible connection it makes no sense at all there is no reason for it other than the programming that we've received for generations because it's all about order it's all about listen to listen to your elders listen to the teachers listen to the adults listen listen listen listen and what that does is it it dims the light of the child and it makes them feel like they don't have a voice and why that's designed that way by the dark side and that's in the system is so that they grow up and they just listen to and they do what they're told and they're good little boys and good little girls and they lose their sense of self they lose their north they're true north so many adults are walking around in this world they don't know who they are so the planet itself is now beginning to split it's beginning to divide again into a higher vibrational earth a lower vibrational earth and the race of man is dividing with it and we're becoming less and less aware of one another and over time what will happen and I don't know how long this will be one world will have all higher vibrational beings on it and the other one will all be third dimensional beings and we will not perceive each other anymore [Music] [Music] Judy was boring hello then Judy discovered chumba casino dot com it's my little escape now Judy's the life of the party oh baby mama's bringing home the bacon whoa take it easy Judy the chumba life is for everybody so go to 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