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EP 197 - Daniel Sala: Hollow Earth - Underground Worlds & Inner Earth Civilizations
Originally aired on 7/7/22
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These were the main 3 sources, probably the 3 best on the subject:
Genesis for the New Space Age by John Leith (free pdf of Avalon Library)
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Is Earth Really a Solid? by Oliver Milatovic
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- Duration:
- 1h 57m
- Broadcast on:
- 02 Aug 2024
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And that link is below and so take advantage, 20% off all of our Teespring merch, if you're so inclined. Today, we are joined by Daniel Salah coming to us from Transylvania, and I'm not joking. He's coming to us from Romania. He's a researcher. He's been doing lots of tons of research involving the SSP, the Briceji Mountains. And today we're gonna get into how Earth, inner Earth civilizations in particular. And we're gonna dive into some of the research he has done. And he has brought to the table for us. And we're really looking forward to it. This is one of my favorite subjects. I can't get enough of it. And it seems to be more and more relevant right now. A lot of inner Earth activations lately, you could say, especially in the regards of certain animals surfacing that we haven't seen in a while, in particular the White Whale, and things that have rumored to have been existing in inner Earth. I feel like there's some sort of activation transition happening with all that. So it's gonna be an interesting topic. And Daniel is going to tell us exactly why and how planets are inhabitable on the inside. And he's gonna bring the science to prove that. Welcome to the show. - Thank you. - Yeah, you agree. I think it's my time this subject was understood because it's full of stigma and it's, as really as it gets. And I find that it's more approachable than some other stuff that's considered conspiracies. So if you can make some breakthrough with this and you can go a long way with the others too. So I was very skeptical myself about this for the longest time I had no inclination until reading the Raduchinama series. That's what it took to convince me. And it was pretty much an on and off flip. I was all in after that because he does it very gradually only by the fifth book, which is like 12 years into the saga. Do you actually get inside? And he knew to pace it slowly that way. So we wouldn't shake anyone up too much. So yeah, I think I should, it would be best to start with the science, the scientific reason why the solid Earth theory is really outdated. And it shouldn't come as such a big surprise really because if you think about that all the sciences, but especially cosmology is so wide open to anything because it's so dated in every way really because just have to look at the big bang theory how it violates the first law of thermodynamics because it which says that you can't have matter coming out or nothing. And it believes that 96% of the universe is dark matter which is undefinable. So the best thing to do is just to prove one by one why planets are hollow. And actually not just planets but stars as well. - So yeah, so I'm gonna stop you real quick. So this book series you were talking about, can you say that again for the listeners? - Well, in English, it's called the Transylvania series. And yeah, I highly recommend it. It's seven deep in right now volumes but yeah, it starts out very easy. So this goes for any normy friends of yours. It would be such a good laden for anyone. And yeah, but to start it covers the technical aspect of it as well of hollow earth, but actually for the best details there, you're gonna wanna look up, is the earth really a solid by Oliver Milatovic, which is what I will start with right now, his finds, which so he explains how the current theory is essentially just a series of extrapolations and guesswork because you haven't so far gotten deeper than 12.2 kilometers into the earth, which only stretches the surface of the crust, which is around 50 to 70 kilometers deep in the continents and very, very shallow about three to five kilometers under the oceans. And next you have the mantle, which is actually incidentally, the last part that they got right, which is roughly 2,500 kilometers deep. And then according to them, you have the inner and outer core, and the outer core is liquid and the inner core is solid. And it's the dynamism, the movement of the metals because they're allegedly made of iron and nickel and alloy. It's the movement of these two that creates the magnetical, but before that, so yeah, the deepest borehole, which is in Cola Peninsula, only gets to 0.19% of the way, which is 6 to 300 kilometers. So that should tell you how much we really know, I mean, how much experiential data we have. The only thing that we can actually go by at all, and in terms of mantle and horse, is seismology, which is the study of vibrations, but mostly earthquakes. And regarding, I don't even know what to start because honestly, it's so full of misconceptions. Well, we don't have to, yeah, exactly. And so basically, I mean, we can all agree, pretty much most of our listeners can agree with what you're saying as far as it being "hollow" or "inhabitable." And it's interesting that the dimensions you're coming up with for the crust, because I've done some research in the hollow earth and other experiences. And they claimed that the earth's crust is roughly 300 miles. I don't know what that is in kilometers. 300 miles thick all the way around and 150 miles in the center, that is the gravity belt or magnetic field is what they call it. And the whole planet is actually like a pear shape. It's not actually perfectly spherical. And you see evidence of that. And the Van Ellen belt, which is just a magnetosphere that they've told us we can't travel through, which is not true. But the shape of that is actually the shape of the earth. And if you look at the above view of the graphic of that, it tells you what the shape of the planet is. It wouldn't make sense to have a perfectly round planet inside of that magnetosphere. And it's really interesting. And it's also like a torus. So there's the holes at each pole. And it's like, so if the planet is spinning at 17 miles per second in an electric universe, it's a massive power station. And it's creating all this electrical currents. And that's how the gravity is formed anyway. I could go on and on and on. But it's interesting here, the discrepancies and the thickness of the crust from your research. I'm just curious what it actually is and what that actually looks like. Oh, yeah, I'm glad you brought it up because there are many schools of thought, of course. And the 300 mile mark is, I think, from Smokey God. But that is full of inaccuracies anyway. And some say like Diane Robbins said, who wrote the books on Tylos, that it's 800 miles. But no, there's no way because it has to be thicker because, oh, and by the way, so the crust is just what we're on is very small, very shallow. But the mantle, that's the thick one and that's the last one they got bright and that's, but they have no idea what it's inside there because the most they can get is just some scarce rocks coming up from the lava, from eruptions for there are several hundred kilometers, that's it. And you're stuck with the findings by which, by the way, the findings in Kolopin instrument, the borehole, that's the deepest one. And that's another one in Germany, that's 90 kilometers. Those all went against the textbooks completely in every way. So the pressure, the temperature, the intensity, and they even found water. But mainly, it's the fact that they predicted that the deeper down we go, you're gonna get a gradual increase in all these things, like pressure, density, temperature. And they actually found that it got less dense after a nine kilometer mark. And they even found results way by deeper than twice as deep as they expected and all these things. The guy who was in charge of that operation admitted that they have to give up to admit to the fact that they really have no clue what's going on under the Earth. And at least they had the integrity of the Russians to do that. And by the way, most of it was swept under the rug. There's only two books ever on the subject and they haven't made their way to mainstream, although they're as root in size as anything else. But about the sizes. So I think I have been pretty accurate because in the four mentioned Chinamar series, you have a way to really ascertain it really clinically because they have such things as a cache field tapping devices, actually coincidentally in Inner Earth, they go there and use this and sees a section of the Earth. So that's gonna tell you, oh, not just that, but it's in real time. And then they made the estimate that it's between 2,300 and 2,500 kilometers deep. That's in miles, some like 15, 1600, I think. And so there's your answer in terms of that. But by the way, just to go back to the evidence part, because it's pretty important. So at least make a highlight real because there's so many. So the seismology, how it works is they have two types of waves. And that's the only thing that you can get any read on the inside of the planet. Because these earthquakes actually penetrate all the way to the other side of the Earth. And then they have these seismology, I mean seismographs all over the Earth. They have these stations and they can get data on any earthquake and they see that the first waves to penetrate are always the longitudinal or P waves. And they are the fastest. And also these ghosts, for example, if you were to hit like a slab of rock with a hammer, these would also undergo these two types of waves. I mean, two major ones because the ones that travel in 3D, for example, because you have surface waves and those are responsible for the earthquakes and devastation on the overground. But those aren't what's used in seismology. What's used here is the primary that I mentioned and those are also compression waves and they're the fastest and they're always the first to arrive. And you have the shear waves or secondary or S waves and those are like this. And those are a secondary and they use the difference between the two to always measure what's the materials inside and what's happening inside there. And they have to make many adjustments. But the point is only one of these two penetrate through all states of matter, which is the first one. They go through look at solid and gaseous and the second ones, because they only go through solid, they got to the conclusion that the core is liquid. This is the inception of that notion. And the reality, of course, is that it's gaseous. But yeah, and also this was interesting that they found judging from earthquakes that originated in the exact same spot, they found without any doubt that the inner core, which is the one that they consider solid, which, you know, there is something there because of how earthquakes penetrate. So they do get some data. They base it on this false theory of, you know, solid earth. So the materials that they consider are there are completely wrong and unproven in just, you know, false, but anyway, so yeah, the, so let me think, I love it. - No, you're good. You're talking about how the earthquake, there must be something solid. You're talking about the gase center. - Yeah, yeah, they got to the conclusion that the inner core moves. It rotates faster than the mantle because of all the earthquakes that originated in the same place. And that shouldn't be possible, but according to their theory, because they're thinking that it's very slight interplay, but that for many reasons, that's impossible as well because of the difference in materials. So for convection, there will have to be a bigger difference. The, the liquid layer and the solid layer are 23% difference in density according to them. And that alone should prohibit convection. It's convection, but anyway, so they got to, through the S waves to the conclusion that it's liquid. And then the earthquakes also, they say that they only go to 150 kilometers, whereas they go to 650. And that's compounded them because they were certain that you couldn't have an earthquake that low because of the, you know, place being too soft at that depth. So that shows the fact that you had 8.3 magnitude at 600 plus kilometers shows that it's really not far off and that it's, it passed the 12 kilometer spot that we reached. You can't really make any prediction at all, not, not any safe on anyway. And they say that the temperature inside the inner core is as hot as the sun. And that it's an effect from 4.5 billion years ago because they're going by their theory of accretion, where particles just hit each other. And by the way, they state also that it's made of nickel and iron, which is impossible to get an alloy that's clean. Not just that, but the way you get nickel and iron and these heavy metals in the galaxy is only through dying stars. And to, and they got to the conclusion that the earth is, it is a very dense in the middle, 8.5 grams per centimeter per cubic centimeter because of the orbit. They judge the mass from its orbit, which is roughly correct, but then they got the average density. And so they, and they knew the density on the surface, which is about 2.75 and they take out to the, you know, realization, so-called that in the center, it has to be super heavy. And they only materials that could, they could, you know, hamfist there were nickel and iron, but they're really rare. And you're never going to find them in such pure form ever. Plus the amounts involved are so unproportional to the rest of the solar system. It's absurd. But I don't even know. So they also say that the pressure in the core in the middle is 3.4 million times more than on the surface. And all these things that, that the heat from the center is a remnant of 4.5 billion years ago from, yeah, when it heated up and it stills, that's what drives all these, you know, magneticals and everything today. And yeah, where should I go next to? Well, hang on. Let's just go down for a second. Yeah. Well, first of all, all the facts and the data is absolutely crucial as far as proving what you're talking about. But we also, we don't want to, I don't want to spend too much time on the numbers because you might, we might lose some people, you know, who aren't at, who don't understand all that lingo. So let's go back to the gaseous center that some people call like the central sun, the inner earth sun that we've heard of a lot of the experiences and testimonies that come back and talk about the inner earth having its own sun, you know, and, and then if you, if you take the planet as more of a donut shaped, pear shaped, it's like a torus field, right? There would be what some people call a black hole or a sun, another star in the middle of our planet. And it's, it's no different than the sun on the surface. It just exists within. And we completely have a misunderstanding of, of the planet itself. And we've talked about this with jock double day. When he, when we had him on the show talking about the expanding earth theory and, and how it would actually, it's constantly expanding and, and the science behind that. But so what are your thoughts on that sun on that actually being a sun that, that is allowing life that is hosting life within the planet? Of course. Yeah. And just quickly before I get to the sun on the expanding earth theory just the most absurd, you know, almost striking aspects are the fact that, well, Benji, I couldn't have been a thing because they think that it's only on one side, which would have destabilized. That's not how any plan works. So it would have the, you know, destabilize the center of gravity from the center of rotation. But, and also the fact that the, if you try to make a jigsaw out of the continents, they never fit unless you shrink the whole planet way, way down. And the, this is the most telling fact is that the crust, as I mentioned before, the thickness of the crust under the ocean is so much smaller, which, you know, suggests that it's, it was, there was a rift that just got bigger as the planet expanded. It's the only conclusion. So anyway, about the inner sun. Yeah. It, you can't say it's a black hole, but only if you also make the caveat that it emanates just as much as it attracts. And also just to fast forward way a lot in that science book, which, by the way, was written by a guy who does this, is a, has a bachelor's degree in geology. So not just geology, but also an engineer. So the engineers you'll find are much more truthful about these things than universities, because they actually have to come up with results, not just theories. And the, the, the, about the sun. Yeah. And not just the sun, inner sun, but also the reason why it's hollow and yeah, it's not comparable to the elders, but it's definitely a sun. It's the fact that the way planets are formed really, I have to mention is that is called protoplanetary disks. And they're vortices and they're only, they've only been at the same time. And that, yeah, they are first of all only a disk. So the only stimuli in two dimensions, but then they did actually, they accounted for. So the reason why they begin to start with is differences in temperature at the same time. And that, yeah, they are first of all only a disk. The only stimuli in two dimensions, but then they did actually, they accounted for. The differences in temperature or intensity of the gas, of the gases, because they did get the fact that it happened in nebula. They are the stellar nurseries. Right. But they have no idea about. So the theory of a Christian first of all, anything that's any particle that's bigger than one centimeter is going to go towards the sun because that's the biggest object. And the, all the tests, the laboratory tests they made with particles, either came out that the particles, if they came to slow one to the other, would not merge or they would just shatter. And that's obvious. They're just logic dictates that. But anyway, so how about how they're actually made. So the whole Gestalt of the universe actually is bortices or turbulence, I guess. They're the most elegant, the most energy saving and the most long lasting. Right. Right. It's interesting. We have information coming forward now about these a lot. It's coming through the acoustic records and channelers and stuff, but about the blueprinters and the universe. Like, so it's, yeah, it's not necessarily done naturally. Like we thought there's actually people, our groups terraforming these planets. And this is a major theory at this point, but we can't ignore that this is new information coming in. And this blueprint or term is coming up over and over and over again. And it makes perfect sense to me that there is an intelligent design behind all of it. And it's not just a random act of science. And this is that's a whole other topic. But let's get back into the planet. I want to start, I want to start talking about some of the civilizations that we've heard about and how. And how, and how like even the Germans ended up making their way down there and what they discovered. And let's get into some, some of that information. Of course. Yeah. And yeah, you just to finish up with the sun that it's, you can call it a black hole, but the main point is that the inside of the center point is responsible for everything that's on the surface. Like I said, it's a, you could say it's vortex, but the point is there's a huge gap there in the middle. And the, also, well, I'm just going to skip the science. If you want to know about the civilization. So apparently. According to Diane Robbins and the, or really a Jones, they are the two authors that apparently telepathically communicate with both the lotions, which are the inner Earth city from just under Mount Chester, which is very well documented as far as these places go. And with a couple of Hollow Earth links to, or interterrestrial, as I guess, but. Yeah, the apparently. So the garden network, which is the cities that you find inside the mantle. Are. Apparently. Called. Yeah, the garden network also used to be called Sean ball of the lesser, but. And they are made of up of 120 cities. Or so I heard. But also other sort of say that there are hundreds of civilizations. But yeah, at least to this network apparently is 120. And they're mostly made of hyperboreans overwhelmingly, which according to Chinamars books. Were on earth about 50,000 years ago, and. They made. So all these people's like the Atlanteans and hyperboreans. Under wind. Change. They basically can't. Remake could remain on the surface because the surface more and more went into the into the frequencies of 3d. And it used to be much more interchangeable before. And there were even worse fought over the less remaining portals as they got as the rift is calcium got smaller and smaller. But. Yeah, and apparently many of these people's either went elsewhere or they departed or they, you know, absconded inside the earth. And where they could continue because this is important to mention that. As you go inside. Certainly past the mental. You are fully in the ethereal, which is also known as 4d. But you also already feel the mark. Gradually as you go deeper. So. By the time you're near the end. You have much more elevated, you know, states and. Feelings when you're inside, but. So your question. Oh, no, I was agreeing with you. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, the other thing other than the hyperboreans. Apparently there are also. For. The more rain outposts. Insider and to Atlanteans. So not very many, but apparently there are Atlanteans in. Atlanteans inside all of us. But. As far as Romania goes. They are mainly populated by. Nations who were the people's that are. The people that's the most famous around here. And. They there's a lot of hyperbonded, but what's not known and by the way, many of this goes for many other civilizations. That. That you find no reminisce, for example, of their writings. It could very well be that that's because they went inside. And it's well known that many. North American people. No, for sure that they their ancestors were from in. Not just them, but Eskimos too. And. Save on a Riley break parts cleaner. Get two cans of a Riley break parts cleaner for just eight dollars. Ballad in store only at O'Reilly auto parts. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Riley. Auto parts. Yeah, the nations underneath Romania have many cities and they're interconnected and you can travel from one to the other without needing any tunnels. You just. Raise a frequency of operation of the ship, which they're very advanced. And because they had so much freedom to just. Evolve on, you know, unencumbered by the surface and you won't find any of them who are, you know, envious of the surface people. Although they are very open to collaboration, always willing to do it. And especially now more than ever. So yeah, it's. So there's a lot to impact. So we can, if we just go back to Telos or Telos under Mount Shasta and the Agartha network, there's information that claims that that start that. That starts as. As I'm sure I say this. One mile beneath the surface as near as one mile beneath the surface, actually under Mount Shasta is where actually that. City starts and there's like five levels to that city. And as you get deeper expands and you know, there's all kinds of fantastic stuff happening there. And they claimed that Agartha network is comprised of a hundred plus cities that are all connected via a tunnel system, which is. Like type type of a maglev type of transport or train, but it's like it's actually pushed by like a cushion of air. So it never touches the sides and travels up to 3000 miles per hour. And also they're not just in Earth, but they are also communicating collectively and coming and going from the planet. And they call on the reason they're able to remain undetected is because they travel. They use a technology, what they call interdimensional shift technology and it allows them to somehow shift and remain undetected when they're coming and going from the planet. It's all very interesting. What kind of information does any of your research align with that stuff? Yep, you're pretty much dead on with the depth. I was also curious about telos about how deep it is. But yeah, one mile is where it starts and it goes apparently not very deep to more miles, but yeah, it's on five levels and they're made up of the Lemurians who were was a huge chunk of land in the Pacific and California was just at the rim of it. And both Lemoria and the plant is went down after they. Well, I'm just now I'm just saying her information, which is Diane Robbins, but. Yeah, apparently the Lemurians in the plantings. Ward and because of how nasty that war was they were, you know, that led to the destruction in the sinking, but it was gradual. It's not like Plato said like overnight. And so the millions of Lemurians that were there surface asked the permission of at the time, mostly hyperboreans in the garden network to have this place for themselves, this place under Mount Shasta, which they had apparently to drain out the magma from the lava tubes for it. And yeah, they were allowed it, but they only managed to transport 25,000 people. And apparently some of the priests and elders had to remain just to ease the, you know, the mass exodus of the remaining the people who are fated to die there. And apparently all length sign. They sang that and it's one of their songs and not the Irish. They just got, you know, inherited it, but. And only 25,000 made it to tell us. And by now they are up to either 1.2 or 1.5 million. You have you hear both numbers. And there are five levels there, like you said. The first two are mainly administrative. That's where most of the population is in their schools. And they are not too dissimilar in that. And that you also, you also learn as your very young child. But unlike us, they are very, you know, insistent on this that they basically don't age. And they choose when to die. And the lifetimes. Go up to 10, go into the tens of thousands of years. Which means that some of them are actually. You know, lived in the real Lemuria. And have memories of their. But also there's the fact that when you're in earth, you're probably not subject to the veil. Which is, you know, the limiting of the DNA strands. Which also had his good reason, but before that, so. Yeah, they are not there for your memory of past life. So it's not such a big deal anyway. But if you want, I can go more into the telos culture. Right. Well, it's interesting. I've read that they like you were right, like they had to move to inner earth because of the surface dropping into 3D dropping into the third dimension. And they back whenever they did migrate there, they were actually utilizing some of these tunnels, these magma tubes, lava tubes or whatever. To bring air down into their city. But they've since had to close those off because the air is now so polluted. So they have their own way of providing oxygen, which is your own ecosystem. Very similar to exactly how it works on the surface, but it's just more pure in essence. And the fact that they're able to live as long as they do. Has everything to do with the birthing process also, which we have all wrong on the surface. And, you know, they do the water birth. It only takes three months. And as soon as they find out the mother is, is pregnant, they put her in a chamber for three days. And they just basically play all these beautiful sounds and frequencies and tones and these positive words to code the DNA of the child. So when it's born, it's, it's not born with any trauma. And that has a, that plays a huge part into the life expectancy of them. Well, yeah, you're right about how they birth and stuff like that, but they are also, you know, it's hard to keep track because they sometimes they say that drinking water is what gives them super longevity. And sometimes they say that it's because of they're so careful with the food. And other times they say that it's just a matter of healthy thinking, you know. So it's basically all of these things, I will guess, but yeah, about the, what I found interesting you mentioned the pregnancy. They, first of all, only get pregnant when they plan way, way ahead months ahead. This apparently is a genetic defect of the surface dwellers that we get, you know, unexpected pregnancy and not just this, but they have two types of relationships, like the couples. First, they only start with what they call bond relationship, which are a huge can last indefinitely, but it's agreed that you can at any point, just mutually agree to separate and remain friends. But, and there's many couples living by this in the first two levels. And by the way, they have a permit that houses 50,000 or so people, but, and the second type of relationship is a committed one, which from which apparently there's no divorce, but before that you can go hundreds of years in each other's company. And they, their sexual union is always involving all the chakras, unlike apparently ours, which only do the first two. And yeah, the planning of the incarnation is also a very long process, and they know exactly what so they're inviting in because, you know, they have to be careful, for example, just think of this super long life means you have great great great great great grand sons. So, and also spaces limited in the inner caverns. That's another big aspect. So you have to be careful, but yeah, apparently, they don't even have a money system, everything's taken care of. They only have to work for the five hours, every few days, every five days, which is like 20 to 25 hours a week. But whenever you, you have, you're expecting a child, you are accused of that and you can spend years, a couple of years, just giving both the attention to the child. And yeah. Well, it's a, yeah, just a completely different lifestyle, obviously. He's getting ready to go to Mount Shasta next week, right? He's gonna go into tomorrow tomorrow. Yeah, this weekend, going to a conference there. And there's a guy named Lowell, Lowell Harvey principal, Lowell Johnson, who's going to be there who I've seen some interviews of him online, and he claims, he went inside to he claims he was on a hike in Mount Shasta. And this Telosian being like in a white robe appeared and like invited him into Telos and he physically physically went there, not just not just Ashley or his spirit. Like he physically went there and this guy gave him a tour around the whole city and he tells the whole story and it's amazing. Right. And that's actually got this conference. So I'm going to get to see it, see them talk. And I'm hoping to get to meet him and get him on the show. And have him take you to where he was brought in. So I'll ask. Yeah, that would be amazing. Well, that's actually an interesting point to bring up because you can't just go and find some entrance down to the Agartha network. Maybe you can in a certain area to an extent. But you have to be, from my understanding, you have to be invited based on the purity of your intention, and like, and your essence, I guess. So, and there's certain areas, specific locations where you can go and meditate and get into that state, and basically ask for permission. And I know that doesn't just exist in Mount Shasta, there's other places in the world apparently where you can do this. And I think, Daniel, didn't you, did you say one time in our conversations that there was a location in Wisconsin that you could do this. Actually, it's in Yosemite Park. Okay. Yeah, it's very tempting, at least for me, because it's in the fifth book called Inside the Earth in the Transylvania series. And it's one of the three hollow earth trips, and he has two in inner earth. And of course, when I'm talking about hollow earth, I'm talking about the big, you know, gap there in the big hollow, which is, I should also mention approximated as a science of Venus. Even though it's not really if you consider the thickness of the mantle, but because, as I mentioned, you're in a slightly higher plane, more elevated, then you, it that's the best approximation. And because it goes, as I said, hired and I mentioned towards the center. The approximation of the astral over 5D is about the size of Mars, and then the 60 is about the size of Mercury, and then seven is roughly the size of the moon, which is the, that's the size of the point of singularity that is responsible for the implementation of everything. So we're the spirit of the Earth's eyes and it's masculine. It's not feminine. The feminine side is the breathing, leaving part, which is Gaia. And you know, they have to work together, but he definitely got this sure and station, you know, it's sure knowing, sure download, but, but. And also when he would rather chinama would clean this information, it wouldn't just be through those holographic caching devices. He also had a helmet that could, you know, help him synthesize this information and would read it would be telepathic. And it would just be guided by certain. Yeah, very intuitive. But this is from a town that's very near the surface. So you don't have to go that deep. But yeah, I wanted to mention that and. Oh yeah, so about low. Yeah, I found him the most credible or top two definitely of all the inner Earth account to just browse off. You know, what do you want to hear it doesn't go into, you know, meandering. And I was absolutely no doubt that he went there. And that he, unfortunately, he only went there once. He met with them a second time but yeah, apparently he is now very gifted at sensing every little change and he sees with 5D overlays as well. So definitely would be maybe a good guess for you guys but. Yeah, so what was your story? We were talking about Yosemite, the area of the world. And of course, yeah, yeah, it's, I'm convinced that you can triangulate the position just based on the descriptions of the houses because it's not such a big area. And apparently it's a reservation of Native Americans. And they were the Americans, you know, their government there, especially the black ops wanted to find out more about the above this portal because they knew they had a portal. As far back as 1776. And they wanted to, you know, find out more power. They only sent all the people they sent there, the parasites colleges and such. Only one managed to go through. So they weren't really happy with it. So they sent these two Romanians, Rado, Chinaman, and they, yeah, they were apparently these Native Americans. And the reason why I think it's a very approachable is that they were very humble, very welcoming, and they knew ahead of time. So it's not like you can, you know, go there and demand and think you're going to be expected there. Like you said, you know, and that's one of the ways you can get in, but it's not the only way because there are also portals. And if you want, I can go into the entry, the modes of entry inside. Because there's more than one. Yes. Well, yeah. Okay. So let's talk about that. Obviously, you can prop it's some sort of portal. There may be a physical entrance, then we have the polls, which is a completely different story. That's what accounts for all these old explorers and how they found their way in the inner earth and even Admiral Byrd and some other guy with, you know, flying 1700 miles past the pole. He should have been at a known landmass, but he wasn't, because when you're going around that curve, you don't even realize that you're going around the curve of the crust because it's such a large surface area. You think you're still on the surface. You don't even know that you've gone upside down. And that's where they found that's where they found themselves and gravity, gravity doesn't change. And that's where he talks about the land beyond the polls. That's what he was referring to. And that's where flat earthers think that he's talking about some ice wall, but that's not really the case. He really just went around that curve. But tell us about the other modes of getting in, please. Yeah, the most famous one is the polar entrances, and you also have many schools of thought there, but I've come to find that it's more of a portal, not an opening as a physical one. And it's subtle in that you're suddenly going to see animals or vegetation that wouldn't belong there. And you're going to feel warm winds, and obviously you're going to see the inner sun, which is static, although without I mean it rotates, but it remains the same position, mostly. And it's only two thirds in intensity of our sun, and that the some of the books like goddess of a bada bar, say that it's physical but I think that pretty much this crazy the only thing that you could argue that that gives this because Chinaman goes into detail how it's a mobius strip and that Yeah, you're not going to have the only physical opening inside are the very wavy and very rare cave systems that go to a certain depth but very rarely do they reach to the other side but anyway about the falls. The only argument that I found for it for the opening that you can see is by one of the two women who write on tell us that apparently in the year 2000 they placed a magnetic for still there. And they shielded it they camouflage that I guess it's not such a big, you know, the step to take, because of how even we have, you know such technology in the SSP and even the. But which basis protected by such working technology, but other I'm still going to go with the theory that is just a portal and then, and that you're not going to get flipped or anything. Because this just doesn't seem really realistic. However, there is definitely most definitely something going on there because that is physical as well because the of the title waves, which imagine the Arctic Ocean is like a bathtub. If you make one perturbation in one end, you would expect that to be reflected on the other, but from the data that a certain scientist collected in the 70s and re, you know, collective made sure there's no errors. We found that the only explanation that is that there's a half, half a million square kilometer area that is very shallow whereas it's considered that the North Pole has a few kilometers of water and only covered in ice. It's just something about the polls, but the other ways to get in our portals which vary a lot in duration it can be a few minutes up to thousands of years, but that's rare. And these can look very different, and they can be technology based to like the ones in the butcher books. They, that's how that was left there by advanced extraterrestrials. And they still stand, but you have portals that lead you from place from here to the surface, you have ones that lead you to the mantle, and to hollow work, but we already know that because we have, you know, what they're called, what are they called jump rooms right So it's not not a big surprise there but also the I guess the other interesting way to get in is the overlapping of, I guess, frequencies between the two planes, which translates through sometimes through places are considered haunted like forest, but also Bermuda triangle apparently is one of those places, and it's the way that King Arthur got to visit the island of wise men, and that's depicted in, you know, illustrations, and that the Avalon apparently is a place in hollow work so that's just, those are the main entries. And that's it, and that's interesting too because a lot of the, some people say that a lot of the biblical references to like the Garden of Eden and stuff were actually, actually existed in in earth. And it's, I don't know if there's any truth to that but we hear these theories. Oh yeah, well, there's absolutely no question in my mind that you do get a whole town's retreating there, but it takes a collective to do it, and it's very well explained in the sixth book in the series. So, you heard about about Shambhala, it's a conglomeration of places, not so much, but it's also considered a capital, and it started 120,000 years ago, but originally it was just very advanced cities on the surface of the earth. So back when you could have 4D and above, you know, settlements there, but after the, you know, difference got less, got more and more, there was a division, which culminated at the last cataclysm, some say 12, some say 13,000 years ago. And by 20, 7,000 years, it was already completely in, in her, I mean in Hollywood, the Shambhala, but it's not the only one that went inside. And you just have to apparently put many minds, concentrate them on just wanting to do that and Shambhala is circular. So what I think is 4D and then it gets increasingly higher. And I don't know if it's there, but there's also that library of Portologos, which is famous and apparently it's one of a kind in the universe I don't know that you know, just flaunting it but they get a lot of good reason there that they have also portals going through throughout the universe and they collect everything on these rare crystal tables that are everlasting that you can tap into your past lives there. You just sit inside a crystal and you go anywhere you want and this is what it's cool about that place and other Hollywood places that. And the hakashi device as well, that you it's the best most interactive and most effective way to learn anything is when you get all this, you know, feedback as well in terms of visuals and also cognitive knowing you know download thing of information but and you guide it with just your mind. And that we're being deprived of such you know, learning and also they say that they have art and theater and the way I interpret that is they only make certain parameters to generate real movies because I sincerely doubt that they would have the patience or the, you know, willingness to make or watch movies because they would just be fake so they probably just generate these real scenarios and watch them. I think I've heard that sorry to interrupt but that they that's where we would almost understand as the holiday and Star Trek. They're able to like create a movie and actually become part of it that's why I've heard it described. And apparently they like to spend a lot of time playing on the holiday is what they would call it down there as far as entertainment goes back to, well for one, Shambhala from my understanding is like the innermost city nearest the core I guess we could say, and, and like the deepest, and then like the Agarthan network is much closer to the surface than we would even imagine as far as from what I understand. And then you talk about tech tapping into this Akashic record they also talk about a highly spiritualized computer network that they use that connects all the subsidies and even gives them galactic communication, but they this apparently this computer system is amino acid based I don't even understand that but that's the way they describe it. And it allows them also to tap into the Akashic records for personal growth reasons if there's something that they would need. It's a very and it also like gives them like lets them know if they have a vitamin or nutrient deficiency. It's a very sophisticated underground computer like an internet basically, but it's I guess more of an organic style I don't really understand that can you do you have any better understanding of that computer network. Well, yeah, I read that it's they pretty much stop at amino acids they don't go into depth that's why the Chinamar series is by far the best but because they tell it from the point of view of you know the experiencer, whereas these are made basically channeled messages then you're never going to compare as much as I would say that as far as channel messages these are really seem really legit so they don't have you know they don't squeeze in any agenda at all but. But yeah that's why those are the best Romanian series but about the technology well the first of all it's the lonium is the name of the men or the metal that they store this all this vast knowledge on but. Yeah, and I'm so I'm not sure exactly I know they they're interconnected like you said and they, they have trade relations through the tunnel system but as far as the information but I did mention. Shambhala and I want to make this as clear as possible so the guards network is come is only located in the mantle which is like this, and the hollow is not dissimilar to how it would be on the surface and that's where Shambhala is as well. And it is you, you have to see from a certain angle to even see the curvature the inner curvature, but you do see it sometimes. But yeah and that's the most elevated because it's fully 40 and above, but you do have many cities and apparently the land is even bigger than what it is on earth because obviously earth is mainly covered by I mean the surface, because it's covered by a lot of water and so the surface is smaller, three quarters of it is land and that's multiple sources saying that. And, but yeah, if you want like I can go into. Go ahead. Let's talk about okay so this is all fascinating yeah I've heard the same thing three quarters land on the quarter water they do have their own oceans and rivers and some of those rivers, continue to. Like the Tigris and Euphrates River actually go in earth also I've heard, and it's like it. I don't understand all that but apparently it's a lot of it, a lot of rivers down there are actually the names of the river on the surface because it's actually the same river. And a lot of these places we don't know where that water is going, it just keeps going and like that's exactly where it's going. But we hear these accounts of these animals that apparently were supposed to be extinct that are living and still existing in in earth, not only existing but their tame like a saber to tiger would actually be tame that you could play with, you know, and then the gigantic trees that they claim are a thousand up to a thousand feet tall 250 feet in diameter, they go for miles like this is all amazing stuff. And some of these trees some of these logs are actually found floating out into our oceans, and they don't know where these trees are come from and they even wash up on banks sometimes, and they have massive mass these massive trees, these logs that like don't have any place in our reality that are washing them up on the shore and certain land masses. This all that type of stuff is really fascinating to me, and I don't know if you can add to that at all. Yeah, yeah, so you have a certain event in 2007 is called the Arctic cabin in the it was the first time that the northwestern passage was open. And usually you get 50 to 60 new species in the ocean every year, but that year it was 1500. And the next year I should say, and you have a certain animals like the Ross goal, and the type of ox that go northward in the winter. And they don't have especially the gold doesn't have special installation at all. And then you have bears foxes butterflies and mosquitoes that go above the 80 degree parallel, which they don't, in the case of mosquitoes they aren't seen for hundreds of kilometers south of that so And also of course there's temperatures, everyone reports warm winds as it goes north, as far back as the 19th century so you can't blame it on global warming or anything. But, yeah, you have the about the I don't know if you have rivers continuing. I would have to check I mean, it starts to wrap your mind around that because, but definitely that the water plays a major role and that's where obviously Because it's it's considered that the water came from meteorites and stuff, but even the, you know, most dank meteorite only so much it's just not allowed in But they actually from 600,000 seismograms University of Washington managed to detect waves crashing inside and they officially acknowledge the fact that they have an ocean there that's at least the size of the Arctic, which is their conservative estimate. And that actually accounts for the wobble of the earth orbit, but also just as a fun curiosity in the book about the solid earths and it says that the precision of the equinox is also another myth. And it's busting because you know what it is right when the earth has that extra spin, not just on one axis but on the other another. And it's considered that the moon is responsible for it. So that's why it's still like that and it takes 26,000 years or so it's platonic here to get back to the original alignment of it starts. But what they don't account for is the fact that the moon can't have that much pool, the calculations of stone and up, but also that that idea was postulated back in Copernicus. So these days, who considered that the sun was static they had no idea about the galaxy so what that turns out to be the precision of the equinox is only the movement of the whole solar system inside the galaxy, which it apparently travels at 828,000 kilometers an hour. So that's the misconception there. Interesting. So, yeah, I'm going back to it getting warmer as you go north and a lot of these old accounts talk about that obviously in animals going there migrating there, where are they going. And we have even accounts of Eskimos, like the naked Eskimos, they were called them, like they get so far north they're wearing like tribal clothes like we would imagine Native Americans wearing in North America. And we have, we have accounts of them too and and they've come across bases where they can tell our settlements where they can tell these Eskimos are migrating north and why would it make sense for them to migrate north if it's as cold as we're taught, right. So all that's very fascinating then we have this Siberian mastodon or wooly mammoth bed of bones that they think is that they all died in some cataclysm at one time and they're extremely well preserved even down to like some of the meat being fresh and some of the food in a stomach not even being digested But they think that it was so well preserved but what's happening is this is actually a washout from one of the inner earth rivers, and some of these woolly mammoths that exist down there when they die on the river banks that they ended up washing out and they all can pile up basically in Siberia And when they're finding these woolly mammoths that they think are so well preserved they're actually not new they're actually fresh, they're not just preserved that's why they're that's why they're well preserved Right. Yeah, because they're actually they just died recently. Yeah, and then the red I don't know if do you know anything about the accounts of the red snow that a lot of explorers claim to see when they get to the polls red snow. But that doesn't remind me of a real or a boreal is how that's another myth. Yeah, well I'll explain a red snow then you explain the aurora boreal so this red snow is documented it's you did every anybody who's been to the polls has experienced this red snow. Apparently what it's from is, there's millions of acres of flowers and plant life and inner earth right that's just part of the ecosystem well. Yeah, once a year when they when they're releasing the pollen, the pollen in particular is red, and this is just, you know, I don't know how much pollen it would amount to, but that pollen is making it out to the surface and it mixes with the snow and when it falls is read. Yeah, that adds up and also. Well, I just thought and there's actually been studies on that snow, and this is this is the actual mainstream scientist determined that yes there is plant life this is plant life they're finding in the snow so make perfect sense. They're even so mainstream science is even confirming that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, please. Yeah. Tell us about the aurora borealis that's something that actually fascinates me. Yeah, and for sure. And while I think that since we're on the Nordland civilizations, there was this case where vanishing north, because you know that the Vikings discovered the Americas before Columbus, and apparently around 15th century. They had this colony in Greenland, and they lived around that place and Iceland for 500 years just very well off, and then all of a sudden a huge colony in Greenland disappears without a single trace. And the guy who was from another colony visited and saw that their livestock was there in the live and well. So they had no signs of violence or anything, which kind of leads to, you know, one or two conclusions. But, and apparently they were spotted by the estimates when they asked him but. Yeah, so the auroras officially they're considered to be charged particles from the sun, which are colliding with the atmosphere, but very high up around 80 to 400 kilometers with the atoms in the atmosphere and that's what lights up the place but actually. So there's a few problems first of all you have the magnetic shield appealed which shields earth and you shouldn't normally get any such, you know, colliding or particles for about 15,000 kilometers. But you can then they then say that it's the valentine vinyl and belt but even that one is hundreds of kilometers solid but also it's way to, you're never going to get such a discharge down here. And also but that's just one of it. So you have, they they pulsate at both poles at the same time, which if it were the sun. It would be obviously only lit up on one pole, but there have been studies made and there's there's no question that it's only come, it's, it can only be that it comes from the interior. There's the fact that they're observable in many other planets Saturn Jupiter just to that come to mind. And they're very strong there is a and by the way, as you mentioned that Saturn the hottest part ever recorded on Saturn was near the day itself full. And it has constant warm winds there. But so, yeah, the only explanation really is that there's an inner son and also the they have NASA had balloon shaped antennas that were meant to detect neutrinos which are the smallest particles that they know. They were flying it 40 kilometers high, and they detect the detected high energy particles that were 75 70,000 times stronger than the ones that are generated in our most advanced particle accelerators. The problem with the hypothesis that they come from this they could ever oh and this balloon only senses was meant only to sense things coming off the earth. And the idea that that solar radiation that solar particles or wind or anything ricochets from the earth, it doesn't doesn't hold water because any neutrinos that hit the earth rapidly dissipate so you could never find them. So high, you know, reflected 40 kilometers up in the air so all these things obviously, and the warm winds and everything else points to the inner son that gives sustenance and that manages to evaporate is hard enough to evaporate water. And the dimensions of it are subject to, you know, interpretation, but I'm going to go with chin amount that it's between seven and 800 kilometers in diameter. What is the inner son. Okay, so the neutrinos from my understanding, they can pass through matter through anything right, but you're telling me that they, they don't actually pass through they dissipate when they hit the earth. No, I'm saying that this balloon that was sent by NASA. It only was meant to detect particle neutrinos that were coming off the icy ground. Right, yeah I understand that. So yeah, it's impossible for them to have been from external it has to be from the earth. I see what you're saying it was 10,000 times more powerful than it, you know, most advanced particle accelerated is not nothing you know so. Yeah. Right. There's no way to explain that. No other way to explain that. Yeah. Right. So, yeah, that I've always, and I've heard that before but I've never heard it explain them why the northern lights appear as as they do coming from in the earth so it's directly related to the sun down there, you know. Which is a feature in all the planets and I really had to have had this that the Andromeda's dictated this to call here which is cool to have you know, real it like first time information that all the planets and all the suns are hollow. And, apparently there's a town called Kolnogor that was left by a Lyrens and it's in the earth and there's a certain map that contains it and other cities which kind of leads credibility to that to that map. So there's a, I mean that would make sense like there's if, if one planet, like if one planet is formed one way all of them would have to be formed that way, at least within our solar system with our template, right? And another universe that template might look completely different but here, you know, it's all fascinating. Where to go there's a lot of information here, you know that the telos talking about the actual people that lived on there we were talking about them earlier. And one of the things that struck me is they're, they're so in tune and they're so tapped in and advanced I guess they, they're one of the things I read was that even judgmental thoughts can hurt them physically. That's why they can't come to the surface. And I that struck me because that it's true whenever you whenever you really connected with somebody earlier relationship you almost can read each other's mind at some point you know when somebody is thinking something. And the physical effect in your body. Imagine if that was extremely heightened, and you had to come to the surface and deal with an entire primitive population right a civilization that would probably that would be very detrimental to your health. Have you, have you heard this also. And you don't have to go very deep to get that the so first of all, all the inner people are forced to live in symbiosis just because of the nature of the place that is very subject to destruction. But still most of the accounts of, you know, overwhelming majority, they picked a very, you know, evolve the refined civilizations that are like you say like pay attention and also they're always telepathic in the inner earth. And they also use voice most of the time, but when you go into the Hello, it's usually reserved to telepathy only. But he still hired as voice, and of course this telepathy applies even to plants, not alone animals, which they also respect a lot more than and they do. And that's about the moment they do maintain the extinct ones that like dinosaurs, and their vegetables and stuff. And they are sabertooth are a feature of telos, but they also have a huge like zoo you could say down in the fifth level. But what, what, what did you actually bring up because I was go ahead, the nature of the people. And so there are apparently six levels. This at the sixth level, you is the last one, where you get to meetings between like trades and stuff between the interest, the rest trails and humans. So the first six levels are basically reserved for humans. And so, that includes, you know, the elites and the doms and everything like that, Star Wars, everything. But past the six, you pretty much only have, well, from the account, well aligned. But they did apparently get manipulated as well. And I know they get, they seem to get all the blame ever, but it was apparently the Draco that made deals with them as well and they feel aggrieved. And this is, I don't know if you consider her a great source or not, but Kim Gogan. She says that, that the Draco manipulator and that the, this network council of light or guard the network, whatever you want to call it formed. They had their sort of independence day in 2019, where they formed what they call an earth council. They, from that point on, they only want to work with people who are well intended and want to restore, you know, the balance, the natural law, and they, they are very keen on scientists who, you know, want to, you know, work for the bedroom and stuff. But also this is a big emphasis for them is repairing our DNA, and this doesn't come just from Kim, it also comes from Chinamar. The main civilization that's discussed in the book, that 70 kilometers deep, and where he saw all these things in the holographic technology. These are very keen on helping us to restore DNA because apparently certain parts of humanity have, have it really bad where it's really damaged, almost irreparably. And not just the DNA, but also the earnings cleaning. And as far as violence there. Yeah, this is interesting that they do have fleet that represent this, you know, this section of the galaxy. And they called silver fleet right. And that's, that's the one made from fellows and an Atlantean city that's similarly sized under Brazil. And they have rainbow fleet and another one I forget but yeah, the, if they find an offender that is beyond, you know, help that impossible to, you know, help, then they do. They do eliminate people, and they are very good at it. And they, of course, always have what you would call like ministers of security and defense as well. And they, they probably wouldn't take much for them to, you know, if they united to wipe out all the everything on the surface. But of course they don't want to do that. So, right. Right. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, getting into all those details it's like, as above so below at some point, you know, obviously it's a lot different. Apparently the ascension process happens a lot quicker down there because of the nature of things. But right now everything's surfacing, you know, it's like a spiritual war, galactic war, war within whatever, you know, it's very interesting. But the technologies that they talk about, I heard it described that the reason that they were able to basically discover these technologies is because we misunderstood the atom. We split the atom when, when, and what we should have done instead is accelerate the atom, and by accelerating the atom and changes the game and I don't understand the science behind it. And that's like the root of all their technologies is you have to accelerate the atom not split it you're actually working against yourself when you split the atom. Well, it's true about the spin that that's what, you know, dictates also your frequency of vibration that but also not just that that is really such a major role in astrology as well and astronomy. The spin of the planet that's really what gives, for example, Jupiter gives off twice as much energy as it received from the sun, and they have no explanation for this. And the explanation is obviously it comes from inside the extra energy, and the, yeah, the just an example of how wrong it is to base all the formation of the celestial bodies on gravity as they do. And on thermodynamics, instead of spin is that it took them 10 attempts to land their first problem the moon. And it was completely trial and error. And they still haven't learned unless and apparently I mean the SSPs have of course but yeah. And again I go on attention. Yeah, I was talking about the accelerating the atom and you were, and I guess you correlated that with the spin. I don't know exactly where you were going with that but I was talking about the technologies that they have. I'm not sure where you were well. Well, the in terms of the atom spinning up. That's how it translates for example, whenever you enter a portal, or enter the place of transition near the polls is just your atom spin faster and that raise your frequency vibration which is often mentioned but it's true. Like that's what separates the different densities you know that's, and that's also what makes the lotions able to live so long, mainly it's other than the purity of the water and everything and that they after they fell, you know, they raised back up to five feet and they're apparently it's very fun to to be interchangeable like that and of course we know that Syrians are like that. Arturians, they don't just are limited to one density and yeah that's all I know about the atom and the spinning right. Well this has been absolutely fascinating. I mean we've covered a lot already. I'm going to share a few pictures just to just to go over what we were talking about earlier, as far as the shape of the planet and stuff just to give the audience a visual. But my computer is not actually working right now like it's literally not working. Oh, there goes. Yeah so as far as the shape of the plan which I find very interesting. Let me screen, let me share my screen. And also, there's a, if you want to can cover black glue, the black book connection. The black goo connection. Yes. Yeah absolutely let me let me show this picture real quick and then we'll. Okay. Oh yeah I know the one. Of course it's like extremely tiny. So apparently this is that a computer generated model the earth's actual shape shows that shape is like a pair, which is interesting because if you look at that. And then you take this image of the van Ellen Bell or the magnetosphere from above, how it's all wonky looking like that. Well if it was actually a perfect sphere in the middle this would all be perfect also, but if you look if you compare it to the shape that I just showed you it, this makes a lot more sense. As far as this would all be perfect right. This is just obviously theories because none of us have really been up there to look ourselves. And then according to some people this is actually an old satellite image of the earth and this is where the concept is a holes come from. These images can't be even you know when you go to Google Earth now there's it's solid but this is I don't know what year I think the 60s maybe this was taken. Just something just fascinating images images to kind of go with the visuals to go with what we're talking about. And then this would be that donut shape toroid field that we're talking about that actually exist within every plan and every person we all even every person carries the same shape energy field it's like the Merkaba. But it's all interconnected and that's why something like a flat earth doesn't have a place in this universe because it's just, it goes against the template of all that is. And not just not just planets and people but atoms as well and they're apparently many black holes in the ones inside the atoms and sub you know particles. They are responsible for you being able to create your own reality at any time you know because you basically all these black holes so called are also portals. 100% exactly. I've heard that too I've heard every. Yeah, anyway, going to the the black goo and then we'll start wrapping this up. Sure and also about it being lumpy like that well many brothers who saw it from space does say it's potato shape but I can speak exactly. One thing that all I know is that the sphere is the most elegant and basically the biggest out of the universe. It's usually spherical but it's true that it is, you know, a blog or oblique. I mean, it's a little wider than it is all, but the other thing was that also Penny Bradley was taught Hollywood theory by the Germans on Mars in childhood. And there are probably no fools when it comes to cosmology so. And we actually never even got into the how the Germans made their way down there we were supposed to talk about that earlier. That's a trip yeah, but. Yeah, real quick if you don't mind what is your theory on like how the Germans got there you know they obviously this goes back to the book the coming race and hyperboreans and the real and all that stuff but they were going on these soft pull expeditions looking for something right what's your understanding of how that happened. Well, shall I cover black goo first quickly and because that's a whole story. And so before I forget so there was a mention back when he was watching this holograms with the helmet on. He saw that cosmic water which apparently is a fundamental thing because the aforementioned black hole at the center of the planet is really a converter of subtle water. And because water is multidimensional, and he said that this water, which is findable in the center there is not portable, and it is heavy. And it is completely black so it absorbs life. Bonds that the atom bond between hydrogen and oxygen which by the way oxygen weighs 88% of it so, but it's different from all the other states of water so you know it's different but it's also highly charged highly energetic. And this kind of led me to one conclusion, that it's you know what we hear a guy a late lines or it's communication system you know which is that a biotic or mineral oil that's you know you feel that it's an M state or monatomic. And that is the one that if you drink it it makes you really really smart gives you all these abilities, and it's the you know pure unadulterated type that it's not been programmed by ETS and is the one that is running rampant in the galaxy and it represents any plan that it gets overtaken by it is going to get sterilized. So, yeah, the black dude comes from this water, it is this water is what you're saying, because it's well known that the earth has its own natural And it's so I can only assume that it's it comes from the center and it represents a very important like like in our bodies for earth it would be something akin to like plasma I guess. And also the fact that we're depleting this is stress by many authors that we're depleting earth of its resources such as the oil, and the gold as well is, you can say equivalent to rape and it's going to turn on us the earth before very long we're taking at the next you know reset. That's they also insist on not not just the theologians, but chin up as well. The one of the main characters, which is a goddess says that these are end times. And that also about the black group apparently they also involve very fast spinning atoms that that transmits information on the other with no loss of energy so yeah it's, it's probably talking about the same thing except it's the pure type it's not the polluted one that we hear about that also is practically the one that represents the biggest threats because the, you know, the Draco use it and also others I think a Brexit. And apparently comes from another universe and that's why you have all these factions uniting against the say I, and this yeah, it is probably traceable to metatron, but that's getting a little deep. Yeah, no it's interesting it's fascinating to think about, and we could obviously have an entire other conversation about that. But just to stick to the topic at hand and start wrapped us up. I know you said that the whole the German story is a long story. I don't know if that's something you'd be willing to summarize really quick before the end or we could touch on that another time it's up to you. Yeah, go over the highlights, because it's only worth the chapter in the book but every line is gold. However, there was a caveat because it's actually one of the best books on Hello Earth, it's called Genesis for the new space age by John Leith who is a World War two vet. It's part of this information, it actually comes clean in the preface that it was necessary for him. He was also an OSS agent but it's the way that it describes the need for this information which is only partial. It's actually pretty convincing and understandable in a way so it's only for safety of the people because it gives few examples are quite compelling, but really, considering that this was written in the 1980, and it's so ahead of the curve. I'd say that overwhelming amount is true at least more than half and if even 10% of it is true, it's pretty staggering. So, the example was that for example, the, it's misinformation that there's a 125 in diameter opening, and they misled that so people wouldn't go there and try to find it and by the way you did mention about Google Earth and such being doctored and there's no doubt that they are doctored, but it still doesn't mean that it's an opening like we think is really white but there's some definitely something going on there because it is pixelated and white it out. Yeah, right, but I can go into the Germans if you want. Yeah, we've been going for quite a while so I guess I'm sure the audience is going to want to go for that ride so we'll just buckle up and we'll dive into it a little bit here but then we'll start wrapping it up. Sure. Okay, so it mentions the biggest maybe missing piece in all this dark fleet story, which is that the Germans the good example of their determination, their iron will, and their many twists of faith is that they in 1572 500 of them, but men and women, they were mercenaries and warrior colonists, and they were tasked with building ports and garrisons in deep in the Amazon between the border and Brazil and Peru, and they got there and they were attacked by headhunters Indians, and they were presumed that because they never made it back. And so this is 4000 miles into the continent, and they were mainly Bavarians but also East Prussians and some other Germanic spots. And they were mercenaries for king Sebastian the first, and they, at the time the continent was split between Spanish and Germans, and they got they took their wives with them as well. But they considered themselves persecuted Lutherans and they were persecuted by the Catholics so this also kind of goes hand in glove with what they've been hearing. And so, they went in these 130 foot warships called urikas, and this was back in the 1500s still 1572 yes okay all of this. Their ships got destroyed by these native, and for very aggressive, not all of them but this particular tribe and they managed to remove their cattle and their seeds and other goods from the ship, before they got destroyed. They retreated in deep into the jungle and they had to resort to stealth they had to adapt to their, you know, ways because they were, it wouldn't be enough to just be aggressive, because they were outnumbered and they did have armor and they did save them off well with their crossbows which were a step above the Indians bows. They retreated in this cave and luckily for them, the Indians were very reticent from attacking them from there because they were scared of evil spirits from that cave. And so they took refuge there and they periodically went to the surface to gather produce and other supplies. They found there, they had rivulets and sources of water, and they could actually make a pretty decent existence. They used fire, first of all, and then they just use their well known Germany to just, you know, grit it out and not get overwhelmed by despair. And they, but they were at the same time very isolated and just that one cave wasn't going to do it so they sent teams of 30 deeper into the cave and found out that they were a very long complex of tunnels. And they went to the next one and it was 70 to 75 square kilometers in size a cavern, and also just quickly that caverns are never the ones that are inhabited by these peoples are never at random and they're never excavated because they happen when Earth's meridians are natural energy lines form overlap and form of vortex which precludes matter from forming there. So, not just not only that matter can form but they're especially energized spaces because of those meridians. So a lot of these caves aren't actually all formed from water erosion, like we're taught. It's actually there's a vortex there that prevents any matter from developing in that area. Correct, and not just that but I should also mention that the earth gets more honeycomb as you go deeper, and this was confirmed by the seismograms they found blobs that were unexplainable that slowed down considerably the waves. But anyway, the so they got deeper and they found this big cavern and they settled it, and they noticed that they, on the plus side they had rich soil and they had very good temperature between 80 and 100 degrees and they had fresh source of water and that was very cold as well. But the on the other hand they still had trouble with sustenance, but still the lack of rain cold and stuff. There at least, you know, could make up for it but and maybe the subtler the more refined you know energetics of the place but yeah they they were fear of predators seemingly until they got deeper. And they got attacked by what they realized where there were simple spirits that Indians were scared of, which they called sons of Satan. But they weren't spirits there were creatures that also retreated because of you know turbulent times on the surface and this is a thing often. But yeah, this just goes to show that not everyone is well intended but they did offer these sons of Satan, to guide them back to the surface but they didn't take that and they walled them up. So they had to dig through a lot of rubble but eventually they made it through and so they established cities and you know it just goes to show the perseverance and so determination of the Germans go ahead. Right yeah so this so back in the 1572 is when the first record of Germans making it to inner earth. That's the first record that we have. And that's interesting I had not heard that story but it would make sense why they had such a fascination with exploring further getting there and obviously they were in communication with ETS also and there's that whole that whole narrative that most of our audience is familiar with. But I wasn't aware of how early back it went. Yeah, I agree yeah, and but it does put a lot of things into perspective, and they still surface rarely but they so they still traded on the surface but they kept their location of very tightly guarded secret. And they, you do hear rumors of white people recently as well in in the jungle. And that would explain it but they found more and more cavities and apparently the populations of those today they are still inhabited. Between 30 to 180,000 which is very consistent with the numbers that we hear, for example, in the Romania which is about 200,000. So it depends of course case of like it is how much you're afforded how much space but they actually had to implement a child cap rule, because you got out of hand it for a while but. So around 1600 they implemented the card track the rudimentary cart and wheel and track. So, so they would be able to transport the produce. But this was the, you know, the turning point was when they, after 75 years of traveling down this tunnel system. After three generations. So some many of them haven't even hadn't even seen the surface. They got so deep that they got to the other side of the earth. And they were very jubilant and they called many of them from the cave system and they all went down there and they were certain that they had made it back to the surface which was legend for them. So they had no idea they were actually in hollow work. So they saw rolling kills and lush vegetation and they were greeted by what apparently is atlanteans or aturians. And they were very hospitable like all these people's art and they welcoming and they saw that their technology was way ahead. And they saw them doing planes and that made no noise and they were quickly made the connection to another civilization there they call them there. Knowing that they were probably related and it turns out that this new civilization actually were the family or the forefathers of the German peoples. They were called the Bodlanders and they even offered these, the, what they're called they have a nickname, something with rock. People, the Germans to settle there. And which they took them on but with the stipulation that they would commit no act of violence. So you're telling so this is why we hear so many like the just going back to the smokey God and now you said there's discrepancies but they they encountered a German speaking dialect right a German dialect I should say. And then I believe if if you want to believe in Admiral birds diary or not the same thing, the German dialect and this goes. So it's very interesting the connection there. Yeah, of course. And, yeah, it goes, it goes back a long way. So also I forget to mention that the way they managed to make sense of anything visually inside is that photosynthesis and also the, the fact that you had lava pools, not too far off. These caverns and this goes back to the way that elements basically arrange themselves and compensate in these places that likely the caverns inside. So that accounts for the plants growth and stuff and they did have to adjust slightly visual to their eyes but they managed to do it so by now they have at least 3000 miles of labyrinth. And it's very serpentine. It's not straight. In the meantime they did manage to make many shortcuts, but by the time that they had reached Halloworld, they were already from the border of Peru and Brazil down to the midway point between New Zealand and Australia. So, yeah, and they apparently these Halloworld people didn't age either. They had no creases on their face. And the bottlanders who I mentioned were, you know, the roots people of today's and those Germans were 30,000 years their civilization down there was 30,000 years old. And they also seek refuge because they had been attacked on the surface by a space race, who they called something with serpentine. So that gives you a hint. But, yeah, they died by the millions in that attack and only a few thousand survived and also they inhabited. So, I ran Pakistan and Syria, I think, and they apparently that was the place where the original areas were. And only later because some of them made it down to Halloworld and they're very advanced, possibly the most advanced there. But also, the ones that didn't make it down there, made it to also through underground system tunnel system to the Black Forest in Germany and populated that place. That's how come you don't find the Aryans anymore in Iran. And, yeah, and they accepted their stipulation for non violence, which is everything for them. And you're right about them feeling your intent so you can't fake it ever. You're going to be, you know, precognize or something. Right. So, yeah, the surplus also from the cover from the caves was taken down to populate this place which they were offered which was uninhabited. And by now they, they found what's called six kingdoms of Saxony. And they are very well developed and apparently their population in 1900 was 10 million in Halloworld. But in the early 1700s, they sent their royalty, the eldest of the royalty, the Germans, to the surface with the help of the Bodlanders, their craft, which drove easily between the, you know, the side of the earth and they wanted to, they were sworn to secrecy, of course, they were flown there under the guise that there were sons of rich plantation owners in the Amazon. And they wanted to see you get a pulse on the surface and they came back with merchandise and the information and also art and history education. And they, this is proof that it's they don't put so much emphasis on technology that the ones in the caverns in the caves needed the surface technology they they lent. I mean they borrowed one of our engineers from the German from the surface Germany in the 19th century to help with their with reducing their swiggly lines of their tunnels. So, made it, they're really much more efficient and electric in time. They improved annually on it bit by bit but. So, the, the in time there were reports of these princes on the surface of Germany. And the engineer that I mentioned spilled. And that's how Germany got more and more aware of what was going on down there. And I would explain that why they were always ahead of the curve in all in all areas. Yeah. Where can that work in the story be found again. It's called Genesis and if you just Google the name Genesis and John leap, you're going to find a pre PDF actually. Okay, I'm going to have to read that because this is absolutely fascinating to me. But I also, I'll let you go ahead and just wrap up this segment of the story and then we'll, for the sake of time, we'll let's wrap up this episode. Maybe we could do this again another time but gladly yeah I'm actually two thirds of the way with the German park so that's fine. Yeah, so they even sent not the hollow earth Germans because they were sworn to non violence, but the cavern once sent regimen in World War two to on in World War one to fight on the side of Germans. And that led to more and more relations and they were glad to reconvene with their 14 generations the part relatives. They gave them the surface dollars the advice that they should make this note that they should make the interior that it's habitable popular and apparently in one of the deals post World War one. The Germans demanded access to the softball book for colonization. And the Americans and the British considered this soul out there because they said that first of all is just to play for icicles, and that and seals. And they also mentioned the stipulation that the reason for it I forgot to mention is that they wanted to get into to get to the civilization inside arts so they were very transparent. They probably knew that it would sound so ludicrous, you know that we would make it more conducive to what their goal. So they get they got, you know, they granted the place in Antarctica. They demanded and then add out of Hitler apparently was very fascinated with all this although he wasn't allowed in none of them were except like that engineer very very few select cases, but he was obsessed and he gathered all the data could. And he was invited at one point by King Hakos, the third, who was the king of the Bodlanders down there. And him and also some higher echelon people, and they were treated like royalty but. And, yeah, after that he returned the favor and invited them to. And knowing that admiring his spirit that his pride and nationalism, he weren't him that if he were to this plans of, you know, conquering Poland and so on, that he would get quelled by the bigger nations than him they would unite against him and it would have been bloodshed and he was, you know, very against this. And so, but he didn't hear this advice so we all know what happened and despite the bloodshed, they still found they still felt empathy for them, because they were there, you know, indirect progeny so ask them, they allow them, because they managed to so it's described exactly like noise problem land, which is a place of very rich vegetation and lakes, which also admiral bird describes this having seen an aerial 450 square kilometers, which is impossible to cover that large area I mean to to account for the heat, just through volcanoes so it has to be obviously something else. But it seems that these German that's where New Berlin is it's in hollow work. It was built by these people, these Germans who post world, I mean during world one to sorry in 1943, when Hitler decided that he was on the losing end. As to he and the other Germans asked for the help of the interest or restials. And they this time, they, they made stricter conditions because the so one of the two stipulations that they gave to the cavern Germans was not only that they would be peaceful but also that they wouldn't leave. Because I guess they wanted to, to grow, you know, to make those uninhabited places thriving. So you're saying that Hitler went in the earth. Well, interesting that you mentioned that because one of the things that is mentioned as being disinformation is that Hitler went to New Berlin so that that apparently wasn't the case but I was just going by the book. So, yeah, because there's the evidence that he went to Argentina also and all that stuff so. Many schools of thought there where he went. Yeah, definitely, definitely he lived on. There's no question. But yeah, and the point is they did get, you know, granted the permission. But the end they only an arid semi arid land. So they figured might as well put them to good use so they also created helped the bottom enders have the second wave of Germans, which by the way they didn't intermingle. They were very, you know, strict about that. So they created 1800 wells and railroads and they just have them they nurtured them and saw them through, but also with so they only allowed. There was a huge list of denied people like anyone could persecute the Jews or any ethnicity, or that were part of the concentration camps the overseers, or, you know, the harshest, the, you know, like Mengele and stuff. This was what was interesting that when they signed this treaty of the 30 years supervision. That pod lenders would have over them. They didn't understand their original writing their treaty. So he overlaid it with what's described as a glass screen, which instantly translated it. So that is reminiscent of the glass pad so that for 19 for 1980 that's pretty good disclosure there. They also gave them the warning, the pod lenders that should they not respect the conditions that they would, they have the weaponry to wipe them clean off without so their lives would flash behind their eyes, you know, in the middle of second so. But the relationship between the second wave of Germans and the six kingdoms of Saxony is comparable to USA in Canada so they know they're pretty much only slight differences but they still have their own personalities and methods of thinking and customs and stuff. But overall, the cavern Germans did maintain their religion and their practice their beliefs and their culture and identity. They were very strict about that and that also explains the to tonic nature of the space Germans. And that would put it into perspective and why they're not Nazis because there was much more short lived, then all these people who had time to develop. And yeah, that's that's in a nutshell, what that's a big, that's a big nutshell. I don't even think I need to read the book now. Thank you, I want to go ahead and wrap this up because I have reached my limit for retaining any more information right now and I'm sure other people have to as well this is probably one of our longest episodes we don't go this that long for that very reason because just like they determined that after eight hour, after an eight hour work day, people are no longer effective. It's the same way with retained information up for so long. That's why TikToks are a minute, you know, the attention span of civilization is just not there anymore but I know people have the people that have stuck around thank you so much guys for tuning in and thank you for coming on and sharing all your knowledge this has been absolutely fascinating. And in more in one way, this is incredible information, and I'm excited to cover it like we did because we haven't really dove that deep into it and thank you again for coming on do you have anything you want to share as far as links are where people can find you. Well, just thanks a lot for having me on. It's really cool. I've been watching your show for a couple years so did not see this coming so anytime happy to come on but yeah, this goes so much deeper I can't even put it into words so we only covered the surface here but maybe we'll, you know, reconvene in, I don't know, half of your hair year but so the as per links. Yeah, I have a fledgling YouTube channel called St. Olga 69 and I made some SSP and a few Hollywood related videos too so you can check that out if you're on St. Olga 69 on YouTube I'll put that link below. I have, that's how I discovered you originally, I was watching your videos on the SSP and you do really great work and editing is very, very well put together so I recommend everybody go check that out. It's very digestible information so yeah thank you again this has been fantastic thank you guys all for tuning in. We love you all and until next time have a great evening. Okay, now guys. [Music] [Music]