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EP 189 - Su Walker - Contact With An Extraterrestrial Star Nation

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Su Walker-As a professional clairvoyant and medical intuitive for 3 decades, Su Walker has been featured on both national and international television. She is a life long experiencer and for the past 9 years has been translating for a group of extraterrestrials known as the P’nti who operate out of a base beneath the Sandia Mountain on the eastern edge of Albuquerque. Su assisted in the first known collaboration with these extraterrestrials on a telepathic training manual, The Telepathy 101 Primer. Another publication she co-authored with her spouse, Rev. White Otter, Inviting ET, was published in 2018. Taught by an extraterrestrial art teacher, Su has also become well known for her portraits of both Star Nations as well as Sasquatch and her work has been featured in both films and books. Recently, her story was featured in the documentary Conscious Contact: Full Disclosure and an interview with Su will also be featured in another upcoming documentary called Secrets of the Sasquatch to be released in July 2022.
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https://www.psychicmedicalintuitive.com
Official First Contact Website:
http://officialfirstcontact.com
Twitter:
 @Sandia Wisdom  
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https://www.youtube.com/user/miracetus1

Duration:
1h 22m
Broadcast on:
02 Aug 2024
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And I recommend if you're looking for some even more EMF protection, because that's what these do, go and check that out. All of our Teespring merchandise is 20% off with promo code 20 and back. All right, now let's get into today's guest. We are joined by Sue Walker, who is a professional clear of buoyant and medical intuitive. And some of you guys may know who she is. She's been around. She's been on tons of podcasts, even documentaries at this point. She's in communication with an extraterrestrial star in the nation known as the Ponti, who managed interstellar information beneath the Sandia mountain in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And it's quite a fascinating story. I've been following her for a few years now. I've actually had two separate experiences with the Ponti myself, where they have showed up in my dream space. And I was just kind of led to reach out to Sue right now. And it seems like there's a lot of information to talk about right now. These are some interesting times. So welcome to the show. Thank you very much. I've been looking forward to this since you contacted me. And just happy to be here. I apologize ahead of time for all of the moving boxes you see behind me. This is my first broadcast from my new art studio space. And so you see some of my art supplies and easels and works in progress here. And I just don't have anything up on the walls yet. But I've got still things to organize and put away. I'm waiting on some bookshelves, which is when the boxes are full of. It's nice. Right. So if you hear a little bit of an echo by the time we get to the next time around, and if we don't get through all the information today, then hopefully you'll see artwork up on the walls next time. But I'm enjoying organizing all of my creative things. In one place, finally. And so it's nice to do this. It's important to have in space to express your creativity right now, because that's really important, actually, with our evolution. So let's just go back. I know you've told your story a million times on a bunch of other shows. But for the people who don't know, can we just give a bullet point timeline of how this all happened, how you came into communication with them, and then we'll get into some other questions. It shot the ever-living. You know what, out of me, when it first started. I met my spouse, Reverend White Otter, in Iowa, and that's where I lived in 2012 when we met. I wanted to, when we were dating, come see where he lived, and he lived a 12-hour drive away in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area. And I had never been to New Mexico. All I knew it as was the land of Roswell and things like Sandia National Labs and Los Alamos, all those secret military kinds of things. Other than that, I thought this state was flat and full of desert scrub, and that was it. And I was very, very wrong, because when I got here, I found out that Albuquerque sits in River Valley, the Rio Grande River Valley, on the edge of a mountain range, called the Sandia Mountains. I had planned on staying with Otter several weeks and was here close to 10 days. And it was real close to the fall equinox of 2013. And we happened to be watching TV one night. And I heard a strange male voice in my head. Now, at that point in time, I've been a professional clairvoyant and medical intuitive for more than two and a half decades. And so I've done my share of ghost busting and channeling and research into the paranormal of all kinds of things and investigated things I've worked for three-letter agencies. I've done murder cases and missing personal cases. And if it was strange, and then usually, either I had done it or Otter had, because he'd been researching the paranormal for 35 years at that point in time. When I heard this strange male voice in my head, several things came to me. First of all, this voice was not in the room with me. That was the first unusual thing. And that was abnormal, normally if you go into a haunted place, the ghost is there. If you listen to a disembodied spiritual advisor or voice or channel someone, usually the presence is local. But this strange new, clear as a bell, male voice in my head, was coming from beneath the sandy mountain. And there was a single spot that I could point to on the mountain where this voice seemed to originate from. It came very specifically with a distance and a directional sense. And you have to keep in mind from this home, the sandy mountain is 10 miles away. And I thought, what is this? And it said something very briefly and was gone. And I thought, well, that was a strange anomaly. I wonder what that was. The next day I heard the voice again. Same guy, calm, mature, intelligent, and clearly male. And I thought, what is going on here? By the time I'd heard it a third time, I figured I'd better ask God or if he'd ever heard it. Because, again, his extensive background into paranormal research. And when I turned to Otter and I said, Otter, you ever hear a voice coming from the mountain? I keep hearing this guy. And he went, oh, damn. Oh, I've been hearing them ever since I moved in here in 2009. They talk all the time. They talk so much I have to tune them out. Why? So I explained to him that I started hearing this male voice. And I knew that there was something different. Normally when I pick up on somebody else. Because I've got this background of clear, distinct images in my head, I thought, I'm not sure this guy is from here. But at the same time, I was going to go back to Iowa. And when I did that, I didn't hear the voice as I was in Iowa. We came back down in 2013 for the Thanksgiving holiday. And the moment I walked into this house, the voice started back up again. Well, because it came from the Sandia Mountain, I nicknamed it. I decided that calling it the voice from the mountain sounded a little dung. And so I just nicknamed it Sandia. It sounded like Sandia, like a person's name. And I completely forgotten at the time that the word Sandia in Spanish means watermelon. And when I nicknamed the voice Sandia, I turned to otter. And I said, I'm going to give this voice a nickname. And I think I'll call it Sandia. The voice was listening. And as soon as I said, I'm going to nickname it Sandia, he piped up. He went, Sandia, what a melon head. That'll work. And I thought, who is this? And what do they mean? And so it wasn't until I'd come back to Thanksgiving that I finally got brave enough to ask Sandia what his real name was and where home was. And as soon as I asked, he answered and he answered in detail. And he said, my real name is diccum. And I said, what? He said, diccum. And I said, can you do that slower? Diocum. And I said, diocum. And he spelled it immediately. And he spelled it T-L-K-M. And he followed that up with our language, seldom uses vowels unless they are borrowed. And I said, so T-L-K-M, where is home? He said, home is the fifth planet orbiting the further of the two stars of the binary system that you call zeta reticulae in the constellation of reticulum, which is a southern hemisphere constellation difficult to see from here. OK. He said, our planet is called pandel. And he spelled it P-apostrophe-N-T-L. And he said, the apostrophe was what they considered a lip flap. I said, what's a lip flap? He said, that's a lip flap. So, ponto. I said, ponto. He said, we are the panty. I said, you're the panty from ponto. And he indicated that that was correct. That began, an authorized journey, of learning about Sandia or Tilcom. And what life was like for him and why he was here. And it wasn't for, gosh, probably a year and a half after beginning and talking with Tilcom that he finally introduced us to others that he worked with beneath the Sandia mountain. We knew he wasn't alone. But we kind of waited for him to bring it up and speak about things. And so he introduced us to a female and another young male. And the female's name was Geruti. And if you want to know how to pronounce it, say the girl's name, Trudy. Just start it with a J, Drudy. And then the young man he introduced us to was Rhaaz. And Rhaaz is real nickname. We call him radar. And he was a pilot. And so we got introduced to these other two and started just chatting with them long distance like neighbors across the backyard fence, learning more and more with each conversation about who they were, what life was like for them, why they were here, what their culture was like, what their humor was like, which we didn't expect. And so we began to amass a great deal of information about the pontee. In May of 2015, Tilcom typed up one day and he said, soon we understand that your world has something called social media. And I went, oh, yeah. He said, would it be permitted for us to have an account? We wish to teach. And so that started the Facebook and Twitter accounts. And all we did for the first almost two years was translate for Tilcom, radar and Trudy. As much as we could, word for word. And Otter and I were behind the scenes, but we're not in on the conversations because we wanted the interaction to not focus on us, but to focus so that the Twitter followers or the Facebook people could interact and get to know these three individuals from Pontel as much as they could like Otter and I had. So that's kind of how it got started. And that was, let's see, 15. That would have been seven years ago now. 88, some thousand tweets. And I've been, I don't remember when I started following that Twitter account whenever I first found out about you. And I quickly realized that that was actually where a lot of the controversy was around your testimony because people had a hard time grasping the fact that this was actually happening, that an ET race would actually work through somebody on a social media. And it's kind of sounds ridiculous, but when they hear that if they would even give it a chance, give the backstory a chance, first of all, and the ETs run the planet, you know, our government is ran by ETs, whatever. So it doesn't surprise me at all that an ET group would be on social media. There's probably tons of ETs on social media that we have no idea about. More than you know, yes. So this is just one account where we're getting made publicly aware that this is actually the case and that's hard for people to grasp. So I think it's just helpful whenever you share that backstory. So people understand that. So have they indicated how long they've been here on Earth? A long time, way before white men ever set foot on the North American continent. And we found out from one of our Zuni elder friends who passed at the beginning of this year. - Clifford. - Yeah, it was has been on ancient aliens and has a great many interviews out there and kind of hung around in the outskirts of the UFO conferences and circles for 20, 25, 30 years before we met him. And Clifford told us that in Zuni history, the ant people and the spider people, actually after the last flood event gathered people up at the mouth of the Colorado River where it meets Baja, California. And these star nation people took their survivors, walked them all as a group up the Colorado to where the little Colorado meets up the little Colorado and then branched off from there following what used to be a stream or a river that is dried up now that brought them to what is now the new, the Zuni reservation at the New Mexico, Arizona border. When they arrived, their housing was already set up for them. The star nation people had done that. Because of that positive interaction with star nation people, whenever there were other ships sighted or landings in New Mexico, the Zuni people welcomed the star nation people because they rescued them. And Zuni also talked about the ant people in spite of people taking them underground when it was too dangerous to live on the surface, feeding them, housing them, taking care of them underground until it was safe to come back. And so they have this interaction. And in fact, we didn't know that the Zuni already knew that star nation people's plural came and visited them from the Sandia mountain on at least a yearly basis. And they talk about two star nations always coming together when they left the mountain and visited the Zuni and then returned. So the local Pueblo peoples, and there are a number of tribes here, all knew that the star nation folks lived under the Sandia. We didn't know until Clifford let us know. So his stories to us and his translation of ancient Zuni helped us understand that a lot of the things that Tillcomb had informed us about were in fact real. Tillcomb let us know that this. If you're a facilities manager at a warehouse and your HVAC system goes down, it can turn up the heat, literally. But don't sweat it, Granger has you covered. Granger offers over a million industrial grade products for all your operations, including warehouse HVAC maintenance. And even better, they offer access to experts and fast delivery. So you and your warehouse can both keep your cool. Call 1-800-GRANGER, click Granger.com or just stop by. Granger, for the ones who get it done. Facility under the Sandia Mountain is considered an information station for interstellar travelers coming to the planet. So if you can picture going from one state to another in the United States, when you cross into a new state, usually there's a visitor and information center. It's like that, you can come, you can ask questions, you can get the local news, you can get the local technology, you can run, who is friendly, who is not, are they gonna be shot at, where are their people located, what's good to eat here, yada yada. And so the information station provided that kind of information for interstellar travelers for thousands of years. They tell us that their facility was retrofitted into the ancient tunnel system that already existed, was partially collapsed in some locations. But on the eastern side of the Rockies, there's a main line that has a lot of feeder branches off of it that go east-west. And this facility lies on that main north-south line. Used to be an underground system where you could go from south, at least central America, all the way up to the Arctic. - Wow. - Underground. - So that's all fascinating, and I was gonna ask, you're answering a lot of my questions before I even asked them, which is great. But my concern, my question is, why would they disclose their precise location? Would that not be like, would that not concern them as for security purposes? Or does that not matter? - All right, so what they told us, and I was concerned about that, whether or not other earth humans or military could find them in this tunnel system. And what they told us was that if you go south of the Sandia Mountain to the very next mountain range, five, 10 miles south, you get into the Manzano Mountains and Kirtland Air Force Base and the Sandia National Labs, which built their laboratory in that section of the tunnel system. There was a collapse right about Interstate 40. There's a break between the Sandia Mountains and the Manzana Mountains, and there had been a collapse of the tunnel system in that area. The Ponti told us that the facility has thousands of miles of tunnels in New Mexico, that branch off all kinds of places. But there are many levels and that their facility was two miles deep. I don't know how deep the military excavated to retrofit the tunnel system that I don't know. The Ponti didn't seem terribly concerned about the military finding them or hurting them. However, we have some indications that there may be interaction here in New Mexico at this facility with some Earth humans, what their status is, whether their military were not sure, but what stories come to us. And we talked to a number of service people in this area of Albuquerque and some of the service people and we talked to an electrician who signed up for a government contract job was told to meet a van out in the desert. When he arrived at the location he was given, he was told to leave his stools, he wouldn't need them. He had to give up everything in his pockets, including his phone, his lighter. And they drove him around in this van for an hour plus until they entered into an area that when he got out of the van, it was the largest air strip he'd ever seen, except it was underground. And the vaulted ceilings over this facility were very, very high. He could not even estimate how high they were. My guess is three, 400 feet. I don't know that, but just given the images that I've been given, that'd be pretty close. This electrician did see not only craft in this hangar bay area, but also earth human looking folks that look like us walking around with short little gray guys. - Wow. - Wow. - Which doesn't surprise me at all. And I mean that we've heard on numerous occasions, the humans have been working with the ETs. So it appears, like, I wonder, do you have any concept of the population of the Ponti? Like how many of them are here? And are they only located in Sandia? - Yeah, no, they are not only located here. This is just the information station for the northern and western hemispheres. That's the story on land that this information station covers. If, when we asked Sandia, if they were the only ones, first of all, he said, there are four land-based information stations, and there are four aquatic information stations, but that's not all the Ponti on the planet or on the moon, that there are small pockets of researchers in other areas as well. They just aren't an information station. And so we got coordinates and descriptions of the other aquatic and land-based information stations from Tiaco. And we've got land-based one in Myanmar, north central Burma area. We have, there's one in Pakistan in the northeastern section in the mountains. We know that the aquatic stations, there's one down off of Tasmania in the Tasman Sea. There's one north of Scotland that they call the North Sea Aquatic Station. There's one north of Madagascar out in the Seychelles, a group of islands off the eastern coast of Central Africa. And he indicated that there was another huge tunnel system that went from underwater into the middle of the African continent, just like there's one here that goes from San California, Southern California, and is an underground tunnel system that you could bring a submarine all the way to the Arizona, New Mexico border. - We've heard that from-- - That's how far it goes. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's a big California, it's like a big shelf. - Yes, yes. - And that's why there's so many, I mean, you can even get on Google Earth and see the anomalies under water just off the coast. - You can. - And then there's even been people who have pinpointed like, this is the inlet, this is the shelf, this is where the submarine-- - The entrance to that is huge. Half a mile plus wide, San Marino, boy'd have to get the map. It could show you where it is. - Yeah, but there's anomalies on the sea floor there that are clearly bases. - Yes. - Clearly, I mean-- - Very certainly. You can see a lot of anomalies along the coastline edges on every continent when the ocean was lower and where things all joined together. In fact, if you look at the sea floor, just of the Pacific, you've got lines underneath the Pacific that clearly meet at junction points. - Right. - And it's not a geographic anomaly. - Right, there's an entire tunnel system. There's an ancient tunnel system and there's a more recent one and there are different depths. Our recent whistleblower that we've had on the show, he claims to be on a team that traverses these tunnels and is part of the team that's clearing them out. And he has a lot of information about that and he says that the inner earth beings actually help these teams navigate these tunnels. And it's very interesting how mad, like this planet is nothing what we think it is, you know? - No, no, we learned from Clifford that the Zuni were given specific areas of the desert Southwest, that if they walked to these areas and said certain prayers on certain days and brought certain gifts, that they would receive information back and forth and gifts from the star nation that was underground in that area. And there's more than a dozen locations. I counted about 40 in Arizona and New Mexico thus far. I asked Clifford, what kind of gifts did you get with the star nation folks? And he said, well, we used to exchange seeds with them. We used to give them seeds and we used to get back seeds of things to grow as food sources and other goods, textiles or whatever. And I thought that was fascinating. And quietly, I wondered if that included animal seeds, our seeds? - Yeah. - And I never got a chance to ask Clifford that before he passed. - Wow, this is all very fascinating. Even Africa, like that's where there's the most evidence there of these ancient tunnel systems where even on ancient aliens, they claimed as tunnels were mined for mining gold. They were created for mining gold. - Some of them were, yes. - Right, but either way, it's there's literal evidence of it. It's not even a theory anymore, especially in Africa. They don't, they look like they were bored out by some sort of advanced technology. - Yes, yes. - They go extremely deep and there's no explanation for them publicly anyway. I mean, the- - No way that we now could technologically manufacture something of the size that we're seeing. - Right. - It's beyond our technology at this stage. - Right. And I've been seeing a lot of information lately through the videos are just, it's funny how this information hits the collective sometimes about Africa being far larger than we were ever taught. Like it's so much bigger than it even, than we're taught. And there's so much more going on there. Like it's insane. And a lot of the other continents and countries are even way smaller than they're depicted on the map. Like Greenland, for instance, is like, it's like four times smaller than the size is exactly depicted. And it's really interesting, like how they're trying to throw us off with just a geography of the planet. You know, it would be really interesting to get an actual map one day and see what the whole- - Yeah, it would. - Yeah. - We would have. - So have they ever, do you know, do you have any indication on what type of craft that they fly? Are they disc? - Oh, yes, I think that was one thing that we had a discussion about. And keep in mind, we never grilled Tilcombe nor any of the Ponti about their technology. We did not want to give them the impression that their technology was more important than they were as people. And we were, we had this goal and opportunity to talk to somebody more than once and get information about them as a cult and get them to describe everything from how do you celebrate birthdays to what do you do on your holidays? Why are they special? What do you believe in? And all of those kinds of everyday questions, but we also have them spontaneously comment on things, especially if the Twitter followers brought up a question. So if somebody asked them what their ships were like, they answered and they answered in detail like most things. The Ponti craft can be oval, saucer shaped or cylinder shaped. The cylinders tend to be extremely large and are designed for going into the ocean. None of the craft have seams, rivets, doodads on the outside. There's no antennae sticking out. There's no weapons visible on the outside. They're smooth and Tillcomb explained that they were extruded in one piece from multi-dimensional space and then voluntarily and a sentient being was given the opportunity to be the consciousness and reside as the ship. And I said, what's that like? And he said, well, some of the deep ocean aquatics have always been curious about things and rather than just spend their time in the ocean, some of them prefer to do their exploration by entering into this partially biological craft to essentially be the brains of the craft or the personality of the craft. And he said, our fleet is much more akin to what you would see in a herd of horses. Every craft has a personality, they're all different. They all have their lights, their dislikes. We have to maintain them health wise like you would an animal as much as a mechanical device. - That's fascinating. - So if you see a craft that's completely smooth, if they're not traveling, if they're just parked, they can be completely silver or completely bright shiny white like you would see a new car paint job, shiny white. No windows, no doors evident on the outside as it's just sitting there. Can those openings be created by the craft itself? On command, yes. And so if you walk up to a craft and it doesn't look like it has a door and you ask it to please open the door, a door opens. But you don't see the seams where it's going to open. I had a time and so I don't know how that works, but when the craft travels, oftentimes you will see it as a bright white light or a bright amber light. And we have photographs of both in front of the Sandia mountain. On this western side of the Sandia and that's where I live is on the west side, there is a single entrance up one of the canyons that a small skipper ship, that's these oval craft, they're about the size of a small plane. They can hold on average about six crew members, but the skipper ships can get into the entrance on the west side. The huge hangar bay doors that can open are on the east side of the mountain. Wow, that's incredible information. We've heard so many people talk about these craft that are organic and they're piloted by the consciousness of the individual. And some of them are specific to the individual, meaning no one else can pilot that craft. It's very fascinating. I've heard, I forgot who at this point and people hate when I do this, when I tell things that I don't remember who said it, but I believe it wasn't on an old episode, the cosmic disclosure, there was a team of people who we were designed to attend to wrecked UFOs. And they were specifically told not to remove the body from the craft because sometimes the body is and the craft are one. And if you remove the body from the craft, the being would actually die. And they would like to-- - Could you understand that? - There's like a protocol that kicks in, if there's a wreck that actually keeps, they keep each other alive. It's really fascinating. - Interesting, interesting. We were here at the house one day and I think it was two or three years ago and suddenly we got an emergency alert from the mountain and Judy said, "We have a situation. "You can listen, just don't talk." And she shared with me that they had a craft that had gone down at the southern Kansas Oklahoma border and it had gone down hard from a malfunction of some kind. And apparently there had been an explosion and a fire. And the fellow who takes care of the fleet, they call them, instead of the head engineer, they call them the fleet master. The fleet master went out and the craft had to be destroyed. And they were able to take five of the six crew members back to the station and heal them there. But the sixth was far too injured and had to end up going to what would be a specialized facility here at our system and then ended up going back home. And he's had to retire from his service because he was not able to continue. He was burned over a huge part of his body. That could be fixed but the brain chemistry stuff was the problem. So he really, really took it hard. - Sorry about that phone call. - Yep, understand. - Once that time. - We have only had them twice or three times, two or three times, tell us that they've gone into emergency mode. And essentially, they shut down the mountain. We can't telepathically get in until they open things back up. Everyone's in a while, if there's an emergency, they'll let us listen like Trudy did that first time just so we understand what's going on. But we never know what's gonna happen or why they're gonna do it. And so. - If you're a facilities manager at a warehouse and your HVAC system goes down, it can turn up the heat, literally. But don't sweat it, Granger has you covered. Granger offers over a million industrial grade products for all your operations, including warehouse HVAC maintenance. And even better, they offer access to experts and fast delivery. So you and your warehouse can both keep your cool. Call 1-800-GRANGER, click Granger.com, or just stop by. Granger, for the ones who get it done. - It was sad but fascinating. - Wow, wow. - Time frame. - Yeah, it's very interesting. They know rivets, no seams, everything seamless, a multi-dimensional aspect of it. In the book, The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life, that's kind of how they described how a lot of these ancient pyramids were built, almost like in another dimension. And a lot of these ancient structures that we just can't describe, they describe something very similar to that. And I've actually seen one of those white cylinders before. I was sent to Vegas for some training when I was in construction. And on the flight home, the guy next to me, he was, I don't know if he's a believer in any of this stuff or not, he said, what's that? And he looked, pointed out the window, and there was a white cylinder, a white cigar. - Oh my goodness. - And he said, what's, I said, I don't know. And he goes, that's not a plane. And I was like, no, it's not. And it was right at the moment, we've seen it. I don't know if this was coincidence or not, but the plane seemed to like go full throttle. Like he was just, it just took off when we started raising elevation. And you can like physically feel yourself get sucked back into the seat. It was right when he noticed it, right when we saw it. It was, it was, and then it remained at its elevation and we got higher and faster and got away from it. It was interesting. - Wow, that's amazing. - Yeah, it was something I always forget about, but when you mentioned the cylinder and stuff, and it was white, it was specifically white. And I've, you know, I've heard many stories of pilots saying they've seen UFOs, but then it's almost like taboo for them to talk about it. A lot of times they're like not, you know, it's like don't talk about those, you know? Because, you know, they're not supposed to do it. - You can lose your job. - Exactly, yeah. And people in the military, it's like the same thing. It's like a lot of them know about all this stuff, but they're not allowed to kind of talk about it. They're not supposed to, unless you're like one-on-one with them, then they'll like, some of them will tell you something. - Right, right. - That's why like the secrecy needs to end, you know, when we need disclosure, like, we're, you know, it's insane that like, all this stuff is happening on our planet and the vast majority of people have no idea and don't think it's even real or, you know, it's like insane and all this technology that we actually have, it's being kept from us, you know, that we could use to... - That's frustrating, isn't it? This, especially now when our son is getting ready to do, it's reaction to this area of the galaxy that we're passing through. Our son is displaying some abnormal behaviors because of this turbulent area of the galaxy and in fact, the first documented the effect on Barnard's star and then Alpha-Proxima and then they started noticing an effect in our system, first on Pluto, then on Neptune, then on Mars, they have started noticing different anomalies with the geomagnetics as well as the geology and the tectonics of Mars. They've been recording more earthquakes stronger than they had previously and were not real far from it affecting this area of the galaxy, affecting dramatically affecting our own planet. - Yeah, I mean, we're already seeing signs of that. - Oh, huge signs. - Big time. The sun's going crazy right now and... - It is and our magnetosphere is going crazy, but our own geomagnetics and the strength of our magnetosphere is dropping like a stone and the last time that happened, they talk about the North and South Pole and our regular basis on our world flipping. - Pole flip, yeah. - And we know that our North and South Pole, geomagnetically are racing toward one another with a point to meet in the Indian Ocean off the Northwest coast of Australia. It happens to be exactly on the opposite side of the planet as the anomaly that began in the Atlantic, which has grown and grown and grown and grown and grown. So much that there are satellites and jets and other equipment that when they fly over this anomaly, turn off some of their devices because the readings aren't going to be accurate. It's just affecting things an awful lot. And to come has let us know that our world is very quickly racing toward a timeframe that is going to make it very difficult to survive on the surface here. - Interesting. Yeah, we're going in the uncharted territory. You know, this is everything right now. - To say the least, yeah. - Everything is, well, even not even energetically, even on the surface, like everything that's happening right now is a first. No one knows how to react. They don't know how to handle these situations. A lot of them, yeah, they're fabricated, but still it's a first. We're learning right now and people, that's what's forcing this awakening, people are being forced to, they're being challenged to discover new ways of living and figuring out, you know, how they're going to survive and what they can do. And relationships are falling apart, new relationships are being made. We're seeing this beautiful thing happen, even though it's traumatic in some cases, it's all part of this cycle. I wanted to ask you about this treaty. Did you call it the desert accord treaty? - The desert accord treaty, yes. - Can you explain to people what that is, and when that started and it ended now, right? - Mm-hmm, right. We asked Tiltham about getting their pictures and at the time, when we first met Tiltham in 2013, he described to us a treaty that was signed in the desert somewhere in the Middle East. You won't tell us what, in August of 1971, it was signed not only by the United States, but by several European and Asian countries and a number of star nations, both terrestrial and aquatic, attended that desert accord and agreed with the earth humans to give them five decades, 50 years in order to get their people or us as earth humans ready to meet their star nation neighbors. And so the desert accord treaty, they agreed to not provide technology to the lay people. They agreed not to provide photographs or videotape and they were kind of layin low as far as doing most of their things so in a way that they could not be seen. That's, it wasn't a perfect rule, but most, the star nations that had agreed and signed at that treaty all were very careful about the interactions that they had with earth humans. The desert accord treaty ended last year at the end of August in 2021. That was the 50 year mark. - Oh, wow. - And I said, so what does this mean to help him? And he said, well, the first things you're gonna see are more evidence of video and photographic captures of craft. Then he said that the Sasquatch who now journey with some of the star nations to explore other worlds agreed that they would come out of the forest closet, so to speak, to be photographed and evidence provided first. The Ponti and some of the other star nations that look more human will be the next to be photographed with their craft, either waving from the window or standing outside of a craft that's landed on the ground. Before they get to the point where they're going to walk up to a group of people and say, hi, how are you? - Mm-hmm, right. - We're at the stage where the Sasquatch are revealing themselves and at least the Ponti are much less careful day and night about whether or not their ships are seen and/or photographed. We have captured audio now of the Ponti, but not close up video. I only have one photograph in a forest that looks like it's Commander Tilcombe wearing one of his dark black capes, and that's the only long distance picture I've seen provided by somebody else that seems to be accurate. But we have let all of the regular repeat experiences know that if they wish to set up equipment at their home, that is motion sensing equipment to capture a visitor, that they certainly may, and well, you might not get a Ponti walking straight up to the camera. You might, it's up to them what they do and how they do it. We find behind the scenes that some of them talk about things that they could do to reveal themselves and hint at their existence. And they've talked about everything from showing up on night vision equipment or full spec from camera equipment to be showing up on some of the paranormal shows where you think it was a ghost, but it's not. - Right. - So we've seen them humorously talk about buzzing people along the highways in the interstates, because people have dash cams now. And in fact, radar went too, took them one day and said, you really expect us to avoid all of these dash cams. They're all over and they're moving all the time. How is that practically possible boss? And took them out to acquiesce and said, okay, just don't buzz the local populace and scare them half to death. So we have several videos showing the oval small plane-sized craft, suddenly zooming by somebody on the highway, either coming in the opposite direction or going in the same direction. And it's not unusual when Otter and I travel from the house and go to a conference or go out of state. It's not unusual for us to look up in the sky day or night and see one of them, like we have a babysitter. - Nice. - You know, it's interesting you said they might show up on like any motion sensor cameras or security footage, even. Yesterday, we had an individual reach out to us who had security footage of a gray. And we, she wasn't getting a bad feeling about it, she thought she was a surprise her. And so I'll leave her name out of this, but she reached out to us and said, "Hey, what do you guys think of this footage?" Immediately, I said, "That looks like the panty." I said, "It looked like it to me." - You look good, yeah. - And she didn't know who you were or anything, so I made her aware of that. And she's like, "Oh my God, I think you're right." And then now you're telling us like they're actually showing up on cameras and stuff like that. There's no coincidences, it probably was. I think it's very interesting, though. And it was an incredible footage. And hopefully one day she gets a show, but it's not. - Oh, I'd love to see it. - It's not hers to actually show yet. - There are five extraterrestrial nations that visit our world that have the large dark eyes with the retractable lenses. Those that black eye that's huge that you see, that's the second eyelid. When they retract that one, you see their eyes have irises that are colored like our eyes are. - Oh, wow. - Blue, brown, green, amber, violet even. We've seen purple tones, but their eyes are extremely sensitive to our level of light. And so there are nocturnal people anyway, but they really struggle with our light in the daytime. And so whenever we see them at our house and we have, they typically have the lenses, the dark lenses covering their eyes. - That's a great, I'm glad you said that because I was curious on why when you draw them, you would draw them either with the irises, their eyes, or black eyes, and now that explains it. - Yeah, and I let them choose which way they want to be portrayed because if they want to be emotionally understood, for us as our humans, it's easier. We identify emotions in other people's eyes, their eyebrows, their mouth, their cheeks. And so their entire facial expression makes a huge difference for us in understanding them. And we've learned as our humans to trust each other by looking each other in the eye. And that's how we are one of the ways that we discern truth in another person. And so when they first started in, and believe it or not, I started drawing the pontee at Tillcomb's request. And what he said was, Sue, we still have this desert accord treaty in place. I can't give you a photograph right now. I can't let you take a photograph right now. However, there's absolutely nothing in the treaty that says that a contact to your experiencer cannot draw what they've experienced. I'd like you to get your art supplies and draw me and I said, Tillcomb, I haven't drawn a face in 40 years since I was in high school. I'm not up to this and he said, we'll teach you. And so I started drawing the pontee and they assigned one of their crew members, who is their art and cultural art collector, who also is an artist herself, her name is MIM. And she became my art teacher. And so the difference between when I first started drawing and now is huge. - Yeah, your work is beautiful. That's really great stuff and we'll put some of that on the screen for the audience and the viewers so they can see it. - See the before and after? - Yeah, the before and now I look at it is real scary. - You know what though, it's not like it still gets the idea across, it depicts, you're depicting it well. One last thing, you mentioned the Sasquatch and you've even drawn some Sasquatch. Have you had communication with the Sasquatch like you have with the pontee? - I have. And I honestly knew nothing about the Sasquatch until radar informed us that the pontee and the Sasquatch nations were good friends culturally as star nation people or as they considered the Sasquatch the terrestrial dominant sentient species that had the highest advanced civilization level of any terrestrial animal. And I said, what's an advanced civilization level? Until come said, if you provide for 100% of your population, food, clean water, shelter, medicine, education, and clothing if it's necessary. If you take care of all of your people, you've reached advanced civilization level zero. That's where we start. He said, the Sasquatch are there. They've been there for thousands and thousands of years. They take care of 100% of their population. We don't. As Earth humans, we're not even close. We could be if we chose to, but we don't care enough to treat each other with that respect yet. And so culturally, there are other sentient animals on our world, both in the oceans and on land that are at a higher advanced civilization level than we are. Even if that advanced civilization level doesn't have the technology to say, leave the planet, go up in a rocket and go to the moon and come back. They don't have to have that to be considered worthy of contact and of having reached a potential culturally to grow from there. So when I learned that, I kind of sat back and looked, oh. - It's true though, I mean, it only makes perfect sense, too. The way they're even able to remain hidden tells you that they're more advanced, you know, that culturally than us. - So the Sasquatch, I guess they would be, have they explained how they remain hidden? They're interdimensional, are they in a parallel existence? Can you explain that? - Yes. And we have some evidence of that now. So what the Ponti informed us is that the Sasquatch, their regular everyday niche environmental niche that they reside in is considered multi-dimensional and they can step from their world dimensionally across veil or barrier into our world and back, just like you and I could step from a forest and walk onto a beach to totally different environments that have totally different animals that live in those environments. But you and I can walk and cross many different kinds of environmental niches with no problem. Not all animals can do that. The Sasquatch, their environmental niche straddles two dimensions. And so they can go from their dimension into ours and back at will with no issues. Do we know a little bit about their hair structure, having a different shaft in the middle of the hair than ours do? And some people think that that may be part and parcel of this. I think it may be, but I don't have all the details to that. What we do know is, and this comes from research from Sasquatch researcher up in Ontario by the name of Mike Patterson. - Or we had him on our show. - We just had him on the show. - Okay, so you know that Mike gave the Sasquatch camera and said this is how you use it. And they went and took pictures of stepping across and coming back and gave those pictures to Mike. And if it's the middle of winter for Mike, and it's 20 below and it's snow on the ground and there's no leaves on the trees and it's two o'clock in the morning, they can take pictures and come back five minutes later, it's light out, there's leaves on the trees, it's sunny, and it's a different season. I sat back when I saw those pictures and I, okay, how does? - Yeah. - So it's curious, but clearly we have some evidence to the fact that one, they can do that step cross or step between. And you know how many researchers have we talked to that see one footprint in the middle of nowhere. Nothing leading up to it, nothing leading away from it, plop. And Zponti told us that the Sasquatch do that to mess with the researchers. I think it's on purpose. - Nice. - They sit back at the edge of the forest and watch them walk up to this footprint and stare at it and make casts of it and talk about it and then laugh on their full heads off. - Nice. - That, I mean-- - Even if heard multiple people talk about seeing portals where they'll see a Sasquatch come in and out of like a portal in the middle of a forest, just go ahead right there. Yeah. - We got a chance to attend the psychic and spiritual Sasquatch conference that was held up in Chuella, Washington in 16, 17, 18, and 19. And then COVID hit. But it was the only conference that won a good 95% plus of the attendees had a Sasquatch experience on the land while they were there for that weekend. And two, the researchers that came from all over the world just opened up to each other around campfires and chairs sitting around tents and talked about the weird stuff that goes on in their research that they can't normally talk about it at other Sasquatch conferences because they'll get poo-pooed and dismissed. And so we heard these firsthand stories from Australia, from Russia, Russia's premier, Sasquatch researcher came over. We met him from Europe, France, Belgium, Denmark, England. And so internationally, we've got a chance to talk with all these folks and their stories overlapped. And so it wasn't just say happening in North America. It was happening in other Sasquatch clans in other locations as well. And the researchers were gone thinking that they were unique until they came to this conference and opened up to each other. Hearing those firsthand stories overlapped was extremely valuable. And now people are becoming more open to telling the weird stories. And that's, thank goodness. - It makes you nervous. It really makes you wonder how many, okay, like what's the population of the Sasquatch? Like they probably, is that dimension just overlaid on the entire planet? And they just, the entire Earth is populated with Sasquatch and another dimension. And then how many other species or elementals is this true with also? - Yes. And yes, we know that the Sasquatch presence in our dimension appears to be increasing. I don't know if that means that the population is increasing, or they're just coming over and showing themselves more. Or we're catching them more because we all carry cameras around with us, you know? - Right, yeah. - Could be all of the above, but I think it's fair to say that the population of the Sasquatch that we observe here is increasing. And so do we hear and see other Woodbun, Woodbun W-O-O-D-B-E-N? Woodbun is other forest folk that lived beside the Sasquatch who could be what appear to be short Sasquatch, little guys, two feet tall on, but also other forest sentient beings that have been observed by the researchers and caught on camera, but fleeting. And so when you just catch one being on camera, you don't know whether to trust it or not, or whether or not you've got a unique thing at a unique location versus if you have other people or other researchers saying, I've seen those guys, I didn't catch them on camera, but I saw them. And that validation of each other's observations in the field is starting to come out now. And so we are beginning to understand Sasquatch glyph language using sticks on the ground that can translate to a name, a word, concept. We are seeing Sasquatch art in stone, in the trees, in their structures that they build. And we are understanding that they don't only build homes for themselves, but they also seem to have built homes for the other woodbun the little guys because we're seeing at the higher alpine elevations where you really don't have very many trees anymore, that they're moving the rocks and the boulders in order to create a place for very short people to reside. - Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's amazing to me. We're gonna start seeing all kinds of interesting stuff as we move forward. And it reminds me, if there's that many of them and they exist in another dimension on an old episode of finding Bigfoot, they go to the town hall meeting and they have the people share their experiences and this one guy got up there and said it, he saw a hundred Sasquatch at one time. They were just, he like phased into this area of the woods and they all looked at him like, yeah, okay, next. You know, they all wrote him off like this guy's a lunatic. And even at the time, I was like, that seems pretty out there. But now I'm going to know what we know. I mean, who knows what he saw? - Right, that we do. - Well, and that's not out of the realm of possibility. If you think about the Native American tribes that reside in North America, say, do they reside on their own by their lonesome in their villages, but occasionally, do they need to come together as a group to accomplish something larger? To meet, to make a decision, to meet, to help one another through a crisis. We do know that the Sasquatch get together in a competitions. And I, when Rader told me about competitions, I said, what are you talking about? And he said, well, they have what they call a stomp and growl. And I said, what a stomp and growl. And he said, basically it's the Olympic Games, so to speak, of Sasquatch nations who can throw the heaviest law of the farthest, who can pick up the biggest boulder, who can do the loudest roar and... - It's a strong man competition, yeah. - Yes, yes. Now you're understanding. So they get together more than one village or more than one clan, more than one tribe, and have games with one another and then go their separate ways. We also learned that they, as teenagers, have their males traveled to another clan and live with them for a season up to a year and come back to one, have the genetics not just being a local populated area, 'cause teenage boys do what teenage boys do when there's females around. And two, they get to learn what another environment as challenges are. So if you're used to living in the alpine's above 9,000 feet in the Colorado Rockies and you go to the swamps of Louisiana, they're gonna live very differently and whoever travels there has to learn all of a new system, new food source, what does this clan do in their environment? And so they trade back and forth that way. - Wow, wow. This is all very fascinating information. Thank you for coming and sharing all this. I mean, it's amazing what you've learned. And it seems like you're playing a very important role. So thank you for that. - And we learned early on that this is a golden opportunity to learn about another people and that we kind of figured we probably weren't the apex person in the galaxy, that probably wasn't the case, but we didn't know who was or what they did or how they lived. And so we just started treating Tillcom and the other Ponti like they were our neighbors. - That right there is the, that's why the communication has continued because like you said earlier, you were more interested in getting to know them as a people than you were in their technology and what they were capable of and what they can offer. They sense that within people and that's why they appear to certain people and others they don't, same with the Sasquatch. - Yes. - If they want to show themselves, they'll show themselves. You know, you're not gonna go out there, you might get lucky and randomly stumble across one in a peculiar situation. But most of the time, if you're gonna see one, you're gonna see one, if you're not, you're not. You know, it depends on your intentions. - It's up to them usually whether you see, yeah, 'cause they can send you a mile away and they sent you your intentions. Like you said, they're telepathic. - Yeah, you betcha. - You know, you're thinking, yeah, so. - Right. - Speaking of telepathic, we should probably mention what we call the telepathy 101 primer. The Pontier telepathic nation and they wanted us to be able to communicate with them easily. And so they actually asked if I would work with a woman by the name of Tini and translate and transcribe a manual that takes you and I, as earth humans, from where we are right now, a kind of telepathic we get as a door nail, to a better or more improved level. And how do we do that? And what do we expect as well as what's the protocol when you want to contact someone. - We do the chills about that. - The 101 primer is published now for free on the official firstcontact.com website. And it's translated into a dozen languages. Right now, we have an Indonesian man translating so that people in the islands can read and study the telepathy 101 primer in their own language. And so if you want to learn how to contact them and what to do and the proper way to do it, download your free copy of the telepathy 101 primer from officialfirstcontact.com and start studying. They recommend you study for 100 days and practice with feedback. And there are groups now, Twitter groups and Facebook groups that you can join for free that meet at various times that you can study with other earth humans and practice and get feedback immediately so that you understand what it feels like to be accurate telepathically, that's the key. And so if you can do that, then you get your brain used to listening to the pontee, listening to these guys or other telepathic star nations because believe it or not, it's an intense experience when you're just like hearing words in your head, it's words and images and emotions and history and other connections and other people and the energy of it and on and on and on. And it's a download when you have a telepathic conversation and if your brain isn't used to it, it gets tired out. - Oh yeah, I'm sure. - So you have to practice one being able to trust it. That's the first thing because most of us, if we were going to get a telepathic message would probably dismiss it. Oh, I'm hearing voices, I must be crazy. Nope, that was nothing. And we don't respond. - Right, right. Well, that's beautiful and thank you for putting that together. And I've definitely, I think I'm going to do that because I've gotten the message so many times over the years to start practicing telepathy and sessions and all the stuff and I don't, I don't. And I'm just going to take this as like the final sign or like to really start. Well, I mean, it won't even, like you say, it will help you in all areas and probably even help you with communication with your higher self and stuff. Things we don't even anticipate. - With your family, with your coworkers, with yourself, you learn to trust the first thing you get instead of dismiss it. - Right. - And that's huge. - And that's where we've gone wrong as humanity, as a people. We start, the second we ignore the gut feeling and start overthinking it, we get ourselves in these situations, you know. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for coming on. Can you please let people know where to find you and how to contact you if you're offering that? - You betcha. If people are looking for clairvoyant and medical intuitive things, my website is suwalker.com. Just remember, I don't write Su with an E on the end of it. It's just SU. So SUwalker.com. If you would like to see images of some of the things that I've drawn, whether they're Sasquatch, Conti or other star nations, I have a YouTube channel that goes through a lot of those portraits and the artwork that I've done. And so SUwalker is the YouTube channel, real easy. If you would like to study the Conti, officialfirstcontact.com is their website and that's where the telepathy 101 primer can be found along with a great deal of other information about them and documents that have been put out, research that's been done, evidence that's been gathered by people who have been receiving repeat visits from them. And there are people from Canada to Australia, to England to Israel to just about every continent now, except Antarctica. We have people who are getting repeat visits from the Ponti because they've learned how to ask and ask politely. And so now they not only know how to ask but they recognize the people that they're interacting with and sometimes then call them by name immediately. And that's new. I don't think we've ever had that with any other star nation before now. And it was because Tio can ask me to start drawing them. - Wow, nice. - Well, thank you for sharing that. Guys, all those links will be below in the description. So you can check them out there. Thank you so much for joining us, SU. This was a pleasure. - You're welcome, thank you for having me. - This was a pleasure. Any new information comes forward or anything you feel like you want to share, feel free to reach out and we can do this again. I'm sure there's endless things to talk about as we move forward. So, guys, thank you for tuning in. Thank you for joining us, SU. Until next time, have a great evening and we'll see you next time. Good night. - Good night. (dramatic music) (dramatic music) (dramatic music) (dramatic music) (dramatic music) You